| fta | i saw a cairo + fontconfig change reverting part of my patches from last year | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | i probably didnt do that revert | 00:01 |
| fta | my last debdiff for cairo has been ignored by seb for weeks then someone else did it.. and broke it | 00:01 |
| asac | ask the merger who did it ;) | 00:01 |
| asac | hmm | 00:01 |
| fta | i don't have time, and i'm also sick of this | 00:01 |
| asac | i get hit hard by the "everyone can do everything" as well | 00:03 |
| asac | for instance they reintroduced libflashssupport in flashplugin-nonfree | 00:04 |
| asac | ;) | 00:04 |
| asac | as a depends | 00:04 |
| asac | did you post a merge bug? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cairo/ | 00:08 |
| asac | that probably would hav eprevented it. cjwatson did the merge ... not sure why, but apparently it failed to build against latest fontconfig | 00:09 |
| asac | if he touches that package there is a good reason almost certainly as he usually has no time at all | 00:09 |
| asac | and isnt really into cairo ;) | 00:10 |
| asac | fontconfig was quite a huge merge i guess | 00:13 |
| asac | things probably sank there | 00:14 |
| gnomefreak | asac: you asked if i had done the bugs yet and no i havent but will this week. i had problems to handle witha good friend this weekend | 00:48 |
| gnomefreak | Volans: have they added out meeting to fridge yet? | 00:48 |
| Volans | gnomefreak: yeah! under the google calendar they use now and upon asac request also in the online fridge calendar | 00:49 |
| Volans | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1595 | 00:49 |
| Volans | perhaps we can add the link to the agenda... that is still empty | 00:49 |
| gnomefreak | i wilol do that when updates are done | 00:50 |
| Volans | I have added the date and time to this channel's topic and to the wiki pages (/Meetings and /Header) | 00:50 |
| gnomefreak | Volans: thanks | 00:50 |
| gnomefreak | just one meeting? | 00:51 |
| Volans | you spoke about the wiki or the fridge? | 00:51 |
| gnomefreak | wiki | 00:52 |
| gnomefreak | we cant add agenda to fridge | 00:52 |
| Jazzva | ok, i'm off. head hurts for some reason... See you tomorrow. | 00:52 |
| gnomefreak | nothing to do on wiki (from what i can tell | 00:52 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ok fine | 00:52 |
| gnomefreak | night Jazzva feel better | 00:52 |
| asac | Jazzva: cu | 00:52 |
| Jazzva | thanks :). night all. | 00:52 |
| Volans | gnomefreak: like this one http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1550 | 00:53 |
| Volans | bye Jazzva | 00:53 |
| gnomefreak | we need agenda items for meeting or we can skip this one | 00:53 |
| asac | gnomefreak: we are on fridge | 00:53 |
| asac | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1595 | 00:53 |
| gnomefreak | Volans: fridge editors have to do that | 00:53 |
| Volans | sure :) and we can also put on the wiki the next meetings if you want | 00:53 |
| gnomefreak | asac: im looking at it atm | 00:53 |
| asac | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event/2008/08/03 | 00:53 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i pinged cody | 00:54 |
| gnomefreak | i was looking into joining fridge editors but never got anything good | 00:54 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i pinged cody all week | 00:54 |
| asac | he said they switched to google calendar which wasnt integrated in website yet | 00:54 |
| gnomefreak | he kept putting it off for updates to fridge | 00:54 |
| asac | i asked him to add us to the old calendar too now ;) | 00:54 |
| asac | hmm | 00:54 |
| Volans | asac: we can only ask cody to add the link to the agenda, like this one http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1550 ;) | 00:54 |
| gnomefreak | why did they change to use google calendar? | 00:54 |
| Volans | and put something in the agenda | 00:54 |
| gnomefreak | Volans: i have 1 item on agenda | 00:55 |
| asac | gnomefreak: he didnt suggest to do that until i explicitly damanded it ;) | 00:55 |
| gnomefreak | thats the only one there | 00:55 |
| asac | gnomefreak: not sure why google. most likely its more comfortable | 00:55 |
| asac | gnomefreak: http://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=amNzaXFybXAyaHIxZ25qcDg5bWY2NmR2cDQgajVxODVtbWk2dWp2anRpaTVzMW4zbGk1aW9AZw&ctz=Etc/GMT | 00:55 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yeah he hasnt changed. he was run off the ops for main channels and other things for being well him | 00:55 |
| asac | but its currently not linked from website at all ;) | 00:56 |
| asac | aha | 00:56 |
| asac | interesting | 00:56 |
| gnomefreak | well since your good at it demand him to add it ;) | 00:56 |
| asac | he is somewhat engaged in xubuntu quite a bit | 00:56 |
| gnomefreak | asac: that is recent | 00:56 |
| asac | gnomefreak: the wiki link? | 00:56 |
| asac | yeah. but not today | 00:56 |
| gnomefreak | like 2 months ago | 00:56 |
| asac | i am bailing out. eyes keep closing | 00:57 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yeah the agenda wiki link | 00:57 |
| asac | tiredness finally beats me ;) | 00:57 |
| gnomefreak | asac: thats fine have a good night | 00:57 |
| asac | thanks | 00:57 |
| asac | 'night all | 00:57 |
| gnomefreak | im here cleaning up before 8 | 00:57 |
| asac | 8 EDT? | 00:57 |
| * asac off | 00:58 | |
| gnomefreak | yeah | 00:58 |
| gnomefreak | can you use ical with google calendar? | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | awway is going up but ill be here some of the time | 01:03 |
| Volans | never tried | 01:03 |
| Volans | now I go... bye bye | 01:13 |
| gnomefreak | anyone still up? | 01:41 |
| * Kamping_Kaiser fwiw | 01:46 | |
| gnomefreak | cant open .so file :( | 01:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :( | 01:57 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | hmm | 09:24 |
| asac | darn. that happens if you dont get NEW mails anymore. xul and ffox was stuck in binary new because of xulrunner-dev package | 09:42 |
| asac | gnomefreak: hurry ;) | 09:52 |
| * gnomefreak is the only person that tries to view a binary file :( | 09:52 | |
| asac | we have 900 bugs open against ffox 3 :( | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | asac: morning | 09:52 |
| asac | we must not reach 1k ;) | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | thats not bad | 09:52 |
| asac | that would mean defeat :-D | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 09:52 |
| asac | and surrender :( | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | i have a few things to work on today bugs is one of them | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | ill push ruby aside | 09:53 |
| gnomefreak | 900 bugs in total | 09:53 |
| gnomefreak | ? | 09:53 |
| gnomefreak | thats odd | 09:55 |
| gnomefreak | asac: why would someone need to renew memebership to a team that membership doesnt expire? | 09:55 |
| gnomefreak | ok wtf | 09:55 |
| gnomefreak | mozillateam (the whole team) is about to expire too :( | 09:56 |
| gnomefreak | ok first thing after email is that | 09:56 |
| asac | gnomefreak: he? | 09:57 |
| gnomefreak | oh im gonna hurt someone | 09:57 |
| asac | where is mozillateam expiring? | 09:57 |
| gnomefreak | On 2008-07-27, six days from now, the membership | 09:57 |
| gnomefreak | of Mozilla Team (mozillateam) (which you are | 09:57 |
| gnomefreak | the owner of) in the Ubuntu-MozillaSquad (ubuntu-mozillasquad) Launchpad team | 09:57 |
| gnomefreak | is due to expire. | 09:57 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ah | 09:57 |
| asac | well ... maybe we set that membership auto expires in that team? | 09:58 |
| asac | gnomefreak: isnt mozillateam the owner of squad? | 09:58 |
| gnomefreak | talking to LP about it. i atelast asked if awake | 09:58 |
| asac | then i think we dont need to bother ;) | 09:58 |
| gnomefreak | a month? | 09:58 |
| gnomefreak | Membership renewed until 2008-08-26. | 09:58 |
| asac | yeah .... strange | 09:58 |
| asac | hmm | 09:58 |
| asac | gnomefreak: err. all expire in a month | 09:59 |
| asac | thats bad ;) | 09:59 |
| asac | gnomefreak: can you fix that squad doesnt have that a tight expiry window? | 09:59 |
| gnomefreak | yeah i need to speak to Lp since that is the first time | 09:59 |
| gnomefreak | im working on it | 09:59 |
| asac | ok | 10:00 |
| asac | but in the end its an open team, so people can always renew on their own | 10:00 |
| asac | still wierd | 10:00 |
| gnomefreak | do you have link to squad? | 10:00 |
| gnomefreak | we lose the team if it expires | 10:01 |
| gnomefreak | than jump through hoops to get it back | 10:01 |
| gnomefreak | asac: can i use reply when getting a upstream mozilla bug? | 10:03 |
| gnomefreak | or do i need to open the page and comment | 10:03 |
| asac | gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/TriagersHandbook | 10:06 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/NormalizedBugFormat | 10:06 |
| asac | gnomefreak: no mozilla bugs can only be edited in webpage | 10:06 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i dont think we loose the team as mozillateam itself is owner | 10:06 |
| asac | just let it go | 10:07 |
| asac | ;) | 10:07 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozillasquad | 10:07 |
| gnomefreak | asac: we wont now that i already renewed | 10:07 |
| asac | k | 10:08 |
| asac | gnomefreak: and what about all the members? | 10:08 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i have to talk to lp admin to make sure of anything atm | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | got someone that is trying to push bzr brznch but he never commited im sure he wissed all steps inbetweem too | 10:10 |
| asac | gnomefreak: who? | 10:10 |
| gnomefreak | ok why all those links? | 10:11 |
| gnomefreak | lut4rp | 10:11 |
| asac | gnomefreak: those links are the revised bug procedure for New, incomplete and confirmed states | 10:11 |
| asac | so if you process bugs maybe try to apply that and tell me if there are things missing | 10:11 |
| gnomefreak | k | 10:11 |
| asac | gnomefreak: the idea is to bring bugs in the "normalized form" so we can forward them | 10:11 |
| gnomefreak | you didnt happen to work on the responses page ;) | 10:12 |
| gnomefreak | asac: ok honestly there has to be a setting in about:preferences to make browser open images in another app | 10:14 |
| gnomefreak | is there? | 10:14 |
| asac | gnomefreak: hmm | 10:14 |
| asac | gnomefreak: about:config you mean ;) | 10:14 |
| asac | gnomefreak: well. i think you might be able to do that in the preferences -> applications dialog | 10:14 |
| gnomefreak | yeah that | 10:14 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i didnt see anything but i had looks 2 hours before i even saw this bug | 10:15 |
| asac | gnomefreak: can you set the "meeting schedule thing" on roadmap to "DONE" ? | 10:15 |
| gnomefreak | yeah ill clean that up | 10:17 |
| asac | isnt "Document redirection procedure to mozillateam-community on mozillateam membership page" done too? | 10:17 |
| gnomefreak | no setting in system > pref > prefered applications | 10:18 |
| gnomefreak | huh? | 10:18 |
| asac | gnomefreak: hmm | 10:19 |
| gnomefreak | we used squad for the team not community | 10:19 |
| asac | you can probably set it to firefox again. just curious ow that might have been emptied | 10:19 |
| asac | yeah | 10:19 |
| asac | i think community was just a "word" for it as we didnt have any final name yet | 10:19 |
| asac | gnomefreak: EDT what timezone is that? | 10:22 |
| asac | @time America/Boston | 10:22 |
| ubottu | asac: Error: Unknown timezone: America/Boston - Full list: http://tinyurl.com/4vyvp8 | 10:22 |
| asac | @time America/Chicago | 10:22 |
| ubottu | asac: Current time in America/Chicago: July 21 2008, 04:22:54 - Next meeting: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 1 day | 10:22 |
| asac | is that EDT? | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | could be i think chitown is an hour ahead of me | 10:23 |
| gnomefreak | but not sure | 10:23 |
| gnomefreak | @now chicago | 10:23 |
| ubottu | gnomefreak: Current time in America/Chicago: July 21 2008, 04:23:55 - Next meeting: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 1 day | 10:23 |
| gnomefreak | hour behind me | 10:24 |
| asac | EDT is UTC - 4 | 10:27 |
| asac | from what i found on the net | 10:28 |
| Jazzva | @now newyork | 10:34 |
| ubottu | Jazzva: Error: Unknown timezone: newyork - Full list: http://tinyurl.com/4vyvp8 | 10:34 |
| Jazzva | @now new_york | 10:34 |
| ubottu | Jazzva: Current time in America/New_York: July 21 2008, 05:34:17 - Next meeting: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board in 1 day | 10:34 |
| Jazzva | asac ^ | 10:34 |
| asac | yeah probably thats it | 10:34 |
| Jazzva | that is eastern time, I think | 10:34 |
| asac | in the end I dont understand why people ask me for appointments in UTC :/ | 10:35 |
| asac | err, in EDT :-D | 10:35 |
| asac | most likely americans think the world has agreed on EDT;) | 10:36 |
| Jazzva | people should learn the offset of their time zone :) | 10:36 |
| asac | Jazzva: yeah ;) ... i guess they know, but assumed I'd know too | 10:36 |
| Jazzva | hehe :) | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | god i hate LP | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | how many teams do we have and what are thier links please :( | 10:37 |
| asac | squad | 10:37 |
| asac | extension team | 10:37 |
| Jazzva | Regarding extensions licensing... Sage-Too (which is developed from Sage by another team) is missing license information in the xpi file. I e-mailed the developer and he sent me in a mail that we can apply GPL as the license... Is that ok? | 10:37 |
| asac | the mozillateam | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | extension team and bugs team | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | those 2 i need to look at | 10:37 |
| asac | Jazzva: will he add that license to the .xpi? | 10:38 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, extensions is ~mozilla-extensions-dev | 10:38 |
| asac | Jazzva: did he say which version ? | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | i just need the mozilla bugs link | 10:38 |
| asac | suggest to him GPLv3 or later ;) | 10:38 |
| Jazzva | asac, I was thinking of asking him that... to just place it in COPYING | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | that was done correctly | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | asac: in about:config is there a setting for the way browser opens images? | 10:39 |
| asac | Jazzva: well. tell him that it would work that way, but in the end he should publish a licensed .xpi ... or at least a source ball | 10:39 |
| Jazzva | asac, here is the quote "you are welcome to apply the GPL as per http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl.txt " | 10:39 |
| asac | to avoid confusion | 10:39 |
| Jazzva | that points to gpl 3 ;) | 10:39 |
| asac | ok. and (or any later version) ? | 10:40 |
| Jazzva | asac, that's mentioned in the license. "either version 3 of the License, or (at your option) any later version." | 10:41 |
| asac | Jazzva: where? afaict its just in the section that describes the options you have for licensing with gpl 3 | 10:41 |
| asac | Jazzva: he has at least to put one sentence somewhere: "licensed under GPL v3 or any later version" | 10:42 |
| asac | Jazzva: is there a source tarball available out there? | 10:42 |
| asac | or svn with a license? | 10:42 |
| Jazzva | no. that's the trouble. | 10:42 |
| Jazzva | it just has xpi | 10:42 |
| Jazzva | so... COPYING is used for the text of the license... and what is used for licensing info? | 10:43 |
| Jazzva | or, he can place that notice in COPYING, before the text of the license? | 10:44 |
| asac | Jazzva: he could place that info on top of the file yes. | 10:45 |
| Jazzva | Good... thanks | 10:45 |
| asac | Jazzva: he should just post the example header on top of that file: | 10:46 |
| asac | Jazzva: http://paste.ubuntu.com/28947/ | 10:46 |
| Jazzva | Ok... | 10:47 |
| asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/28948/ | 10:47 |
| gnomefreak | [reed]: when you awaken can you ping me i would like to know how long it takes before i can go up a level in mozilla bug tracker (mark dupes) is the main thing im thinking | 10:53 |
| gnomefreak | asac: in about:config what would i search for to findout if there is a setting to open images in gnome viewer app i guess its not eye of gnome | 10:54 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, I'm not sure if it's in about:config, but can't you set that in Edit->Preferences->Programs? | 10:57 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: no | 10:57 |
| gnomefreak | just accesiblity | 10:58 |
| gnomefreak | orka and such | 10:58 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, that's funny. I can select what program to use to open jpegs... | 10:58 |
| gnomefreak | in system >preferences > perferd apps? | 10:59 |
| gnomefreak | prefered apps | 10:59 |
| Jazzva | no... in Firefox->Edit menu-> ... | 10:59 |
| gnomefreak | i didnt get chance for menu | 11:00 |
| asac | gnomefreak: in the firefox application you can configure that in the preferences -> APPLICATIONS dialog ;) | 11:00 |
| gnomefreak | yeah that is what i told him | 11:00 |
| Jazzva | heh... my system is localised... that's why I translated as "programs" :) | 11:01 |
| gnomefreak | asac: anyway to set gnome viewer in our builds or does this have to be done upstream? | 11:01 |
| asac | gnomefreak: there is no sense in doing that by default | 11:01 |
| asac | ffox can display images on its own | 11:01 |
| gnomefreak | asac: you said there was | 11:01 |
| gnomefreak | asac: its not | 11:01 |
| gnomefreak | hold on | 11:01 |
| asac | if ffox couldnt display images we would have more bugs most likely | 11:02 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak, did you set the expiration period for mozillasquad members to 1 month? Can we extend that to unlimited time :)? | 11:02 |
| gnomefreak | damn i dont see the bug report for LP in email | 11:02 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: its fixed | 11:02 |
| gnomefreak | and yes | 11:02 |
| Jazzva | ah, sorry. Maybe it doesn't apply automatically to the old members... | 11:03 |
| gnomefreak | bug 250228 | 11:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 250228 in firefox "ubuntu is useless to me I DO NOT WANT IT!" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250228 | 11:03 |
| gnomefreak | thats not it | 11:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | heh | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | bug 195105 | 11:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 195105 in firefox-3.0 "Choosing from Firefox context menu to view a selected image should open the default GNOME image viewer" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195105 | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | asac: thats the bug | 11:04 |
| Jazzva | ok, i'll go through the memberships in mozillasquad and set them to don't expire... | 11:05 |
| asac | gnomefreak: wontfix ... send him to brainstorm ;) | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | he filed it upstream | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | i cant close upstream | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | another option i would like to have | 11:06 |
| asac | if he already filed i upstream, then set it to triaged | 11:07 |
| * asac does that now | 11:07 | |
| gnomefreak | couldnt tell me that 10 seconds ago? | 11:08 |
| gnomefreak | although look at upstream bug | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | asac: you didnt change it? | 11:12 |
| gnomefreak | asac: what format is used on mozillas bug tracker for links like to add link to upstream bug to LP bug | 11:14 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill be back dog came in and wanted to speand time with me since my fathers g/f left and she left "HER" dog | 11:16 |
| asac | gnomefreak: the idea is that our summary/description matches upstream format | 11:20 |
| asac | thats why i did that "Normalized" format .... to forward easily/comparable | 11:20 |
| gnomefreak | asac: doesnt matter i cant change upstreams and the same person filed it. if you want our bug opened you can do that? | 11:26 |
| gnomefreak | Steps to reproduce crash (optional): that should NOT be optional | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | since not all back traces/crash reports have the info we need | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | The summary must read "<APPLICATION> crash in @topmost_function_in_backtrace", e.g. "firefox crash in @nsDocLoader::ReadAll" << users dont have a clue what they are doing here | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | otherwise looks good. we should really talk about tags on these pages if we are going to keep using them | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | if you look at the tags post from me to mailing list it should give you some idea on where i stand | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | asac: xulrunner update but no firefox update? | 11:32 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ffox had to wait for xul | 11:32 |
| gnomefreak | oh i thought you could push same time | 11:33 |
| asac | gnomefreak: well.. i pushed same time, but the build needed the xul binary for the jemalloc thing | 11:33 |
| gnomefreak | sweet i only have a list of 72 bugs | 11:33 |
| asac | so it was in state WAITDEPEND | 11:33 |
| asac | and probalby needs one publisher cycle more to reach you | 11:33 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 11:33 |
| gnomefreak | yeah hour or 2 | 11:34 |
| gnomefreak | iirc publlishes every hour | 11:34 |
| * gnomefreak will start on "new" bugs than work on another status | 11:34 | |
| gnomefreak | what package are we using for ff2 in bugs? firefox or firefox-2? | 11:36 |
| asac | firefox | 11:36 |
| asac | (e.g. the source package is used in lp) | 11:37 |
| gnomefreak | ah we should really migrate ff3 to use ff when ff2 reaches EOS | 11:37 |
| gnomefreak | asac: what version is edgys ff-2? | 11:40 |
| gnomefreak | !info firefox-2 edgy | 11:40 |
| ubottu | 'edgy' is not a valid distribution | 11:40 |
| gnomefreak | yes it is | 11:40 |
| asac | gnomefreak: edgy is EOL | 11:44 |
| asac | we support dapper, feisty, gutsy, ... | 11:44 |
| asac | users should upgrade to at least feisty | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | asac: 18 months | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | that would bring it to 9.04 | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | 7.10 is edgy right? | 11:45 |
| asac | gnomefreak: no | 11:46 |
| asac | 7.19 is gutsy | 11:46 |
| asac | err 7.10 | 11:46 |
| gnomefreak | 6.10 is edgy | 11:46 |
| asac | 7.04 is feisty | 11:46 |
| gnomefreak | gutsy is 7.10 | 11:46 |
| gnomefreak | i had a brain fart | 11:46 |
| asac | 6.10 is edgy | 11:46 |
| asac | yeah | 11:46 |
| asac | its EOL since april or so | 11:47 |
| gnomefreak | ummmmmmmm uh hmmmmmmmmm if you create another user for gnome does it carry over the video card drivers? | 11:55 |
| asac | drivers yare system wide | 12:02 |
| asac | not per-user | 12:02 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 12:03 |
| gnomefreak | thisis strange | 12:04 |
| asac | gnomefreak: why? | 12:08 |
| gnomefreak | his new usrer he made ff doesnt use default resolution and opens way too big for screen | 12:10 |
| gnomefreak | asac https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/209499 | 12:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 209499 in firefox "Default window size too large - slips under bottom panel" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 12:11 |
| asac | bring to normalized form (should be easy) and search for upstream bug | 12:14 |
| asac | its firefox-3.0 most likely? | 12:15 |
| asac | reassign ;) | 12:15 |
| gnomefreak | he said 2 | 12:19 |
| gnomefreak | i think | 12:19 |
| * gnomefreak not likely to look upstream today i want us cleared out some first | 12:21 | |
| gnomefreak | The bug supervisor for firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) has been subscribed to this bug. lol i guess this is us | 12:22 |
| gnomefreak | asac: what setting do i change in about:config to make ff stop taking focus all the damn time | 12:22 |
| gnomefreak | asac: please change firefox-3.0.1 addons dialog back to the way it was in 3.0 | 12:28 |
| gnomefreak | its mising install option | 12:29 |
| gnomefreak | what is the tinylink extension called? | 12:31 |
| asac | i dont think there is a setting to prevent focus | 12:32 |
| asac | but not sure | 12:32 |
| asac | install option? | 12:32 |
| asac | you can install extensions in the "Get Add-Ons" tab | 12:33 |
| gnomefreak | no | 12:34 |
| gnomefreak | well yeah but only ours | 12:34 |
| gnomefreak | asac: there is a setting tog et ff to not open on top of all other windows but i cant remember the name of it | 12:35 |
| gnomefreak | to get | 12:35 |
| gnomefreak | oh wtf i know its out there i fucking had it installed | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | im guessing we didnt package tinyurl | 12:46 |
| asac | wow ... my ssh session survived half an hour NM bustage ;) | 13:28 |
| asac | ok lunch time i say | 13:28 |
| [reed] | gnomefreak: you want access to mark a bug as a dupe? | 16:13 |
| gnomefreak | [reed]: ill have to get back to you later, im having issues at home | 16:14 |
| [reed] | k | 16:14 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 16:14 |
| sparr | originally asked in #ubuntu, #ubuntu+1, and #ubuntu-bugs, sent here as a last resort before filing a bug. firefox version 3.0 depends on firefox-3.0 when it should (i think) depend on firefox-3.0 version 3.0, should i report that as a bug? | 16:50 |
| asac | sparr: whats wrong with the current state? | 16:57 |
| sparr | when i upgraded from firefox 3.0b5 to firefox 3.0, it did nothing, my firefox-3.0 (the real package) remained at version 3.0b5 | 16:58 |
| sparr | i can imagine that being rather confusing for someone not savvy to the details of the packaging system | 17:03 |
| asac | sparr: is that a problem? just apt-get upgrade should usually upgrade you to latest | 17:03 |
| sparr | yes, it would, but that's not the scenario i am in | 17:03 |
| sparr | i have many older packages. i upgraded firefox by itself | 17:04 |
| asac | sparr: someone not savvy to the packaging system would probably just upgrade to latest | 17:04 |
| asac | saivann: depends should only take care that nothing breaks when you indivually upgrade packages | 17:04 |
| asac | since firefox is just a meta package i dont see that we need to tighten depends there | 17:05 |
| asac | but i will think about it | 17:05 |
| fretchen | hello, I am not sure if i am right here for this question. I want to build sunbird 0.8/trunk from source on a hardy heron. I installed all existing dependencies for the 0.7 source-package. I always get an error "undefined reference to XRenderFindStandardFormat". I turned on the --enable-system-cairo , otherwise I get an error about an undefined cairo font. | 17:05 |
| asac | just dont see the big point right now ;) | 17:05 |
| sparr | i doubt im the only person in this situation | 17:05 |
| sparr | just that it only rarely matters | 17:05 |
| asac | fretchen: use our packaging | 17:06 |
| asac | fretchen: feel free to help get a sunbird-0.x.dev branch started that gets regular updated to track latest development | 17:06 |
| fretchen | asac : for the 0.8 on hardy heron ? | 17:07 |
| asac | fretchen: the vision is to have a branch one can use to get a recent 0.x snapshot yes | 17:07 |
| asac | fretchen: if you dont want to contribute, look in the debian/patches directory. we probably have a patch in there to build this | 17:08 |
| asac | on modern gcc | 17:08 |
| asac | err cairo ;) | 17:08 |
| fretchen | asac : I am interested in this one, the only question . What do you mean with branch etc ? | 17:08 |
| asac | fretchen: we maintain our packaging in bzr branches (like svn) | 17:09 |
| asac | mozillateam branches are http://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam | 17:09 |
| asac | fretchen: the idea is to create a branch ubuntu-0.x.head which you start based on the https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/sunbird/ubuntu-0.x branch | 17:10 |
| fretchen | asac : so I pull this branch, I try to merge it with the actual 0.x branch from mozilla and try to push it as 0.x.head ? | 17:13 |
| fretchen | ( sry for all those questions, but I am totally new to the hole packaging process ) | 17:14 |
| asac | fretchen: our branches are not full sources for various reasons. we only have the debian/ directory in there | 17:16 |
| asac | fretchen: so what you do is: | 17:17 |
| asac | 1. branch the current ubuntu-0.x branch | 17:17 |
| asac | 2. bump changelog to the version you want to package: | 17:17 |
| asac | .e.g dch -v0.8~cvs20080507t1256-0ubuntu1 -DUNRELEASED | 17:17 |
| asac | leave that changelog quite empty and commit | 17:18 |
| asac | as : | 17:18 |
| asac | "* open tree for 0.8 snapshot DATE here" | 17:18 |
| asac | 3. next to the branch directory you make a "tarballs" directory and put the snapshot that corresponds to the date you gave in changelog above | 17:19 |
| asac | (the orig.tar.gz) | 17:19 |
| asac | 4. you build the branch by bzr builddeb --merge --dont-purge | 17:19 |
| asac | (you need bzr and bzr-builddeb package installed) | 17:19 |
| asac | if that succeeds you push the branch to bzr | 17:19 |
| asac | in launchpad | 17:19 |
| asac | if not you fix and push then ;) | 17:19 |
| asac | 5. done ;) | 17:20 |
| fretchen | and I push it where ? | 17:20 |
| fretchen | my own ppa ? | 17:21 |
| asac | fretchen: for now you just push the branch to your private account (not the package) | 17:22 |
| asac | i will review and push it to the ~mozillateam space | 17:22 |
| asac | fretchen: e.g. bzr push lp:~fretchen/sunbird/ubuntu-0.x.head | 17:23 |
| asac | (i assume that your launchpad id is fretchen) | 17:23 |
| asac | fretchen: once you did a few updates we go ahead and add you to mozillateam so you can push directly | 17:23 |
| fretchen | asac : at first i'll try number 1-5 after this we will see :D | 17:24 |
| asac | fretchen: yeah ;) | 17:24 |
| asac | you rock! | 17:24 |
| asac | sunbird is much neglected as i usually do it whenever i have time left ;) | 17:24 |
| fretchen | it's the only product of mozilla i started to develop on, and it sucks to develop, but to be unabled to build | 17:25 |
| asac | fretchen: yes. our patches should help there | 17:26 |
| fretchen | thx, I'll ask when I got forwards | 17:26 |
| asac | cool | 17:27 |
| fretchen | asac : what do I want to say with this line ? dch -v0.8~cvs20080507t1256-0ubuntu1 -DUNRELEASED I didn't find anything like this in the changlog | 17:54 |
| asac | fretchen: you should run that on the command line | 17:55 |
| asac | that will create a new changelog entry with the given version and the UNRELEASED distribution as target | 17:55 |
| asac | and with you and your email properly set and time etc. | 17:55 |
| asac | :) | 17:55 |
| fretchen | thx | 17:56 |
| fretchen | asac : I loaded the cvs for the calendar and packed the mozilla directory (not the cvslog) into tarballs/lightning... . But now I get the error: A Debian packaging error occured: Could not find upstream tarball at ... (the file exists) | 18:47 |
| fretchen | or does I have to add this directory at first ? | 18:48 |
| asac | fretchen: you need to choosed the right name | 18:51 |
| asac | it has to end with .orig.tar.gz | 18:51 |
| asac | fretchen: look at how the current lightning-sunbird tarball is layouted | 18:51 |
| asac | and copy that | 18:51 |
| asac | you need to put that tarball in a directory called "tarballs" next to the branch | 18:51 |
| fretchen | asac : thx this was the problem. Do I install all the dependences from hand or is there a fancy tool, that checks for me if the package is build with the defined dependencies ? | 19:07 |
| asac | fretchen: to install build-deps for packages that are in the archive you run: | 19:08 |
| asac | sudo apt-get build-dep packagename | 19:08 |
| asac | those might not be enough for latest trunk ... but thats why we want to build snapshots to figure that out _before_ release ;) | 19:09 |
| asac | usually they are a good start | 19:09 |
| fretchen | yeah, sounds logical | 19:11 |
| Jazzva | asac, Readme.txt can contain license too? | 19:38 |
| fretchen | asac : What can I do here ? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29058 | 19:44 |
| asac | Jazzva: yes | 20:10 |
| asac | Jazzva: not perfect but any document that clearly states that all thef iles are licensed like this or that would be good | 20:10 |
| asac | fretchen: i think your orig.tar.gz layout is not right | 20:11 |
| asac | fretchen: look what the tarball in current archive has | 20:11 |
| asac | maybe its an embedded tarball layout (e.g. a bz2 in a orig.tar.gz) | 20:11 |
| Jazzva | asac, ok. Then sage-too's license is sorted out :) | 20:13 |
| Jazzva | the developer updated to 1.0.1 with license inside :) | 20:13 |
| asac | Jazzva: rock | 20:26 |
| fretchen | asac : if a patch seems to obsolete I delete it and note it somewhere ? | 20:40 |
| fretchen | asac : sry, my connection is extremly instable | 21:22 |
| fretchen | asac it would be really really great if you could answer my last question, how to process with obsolete patches in a mail, otherwise i will have big probs to get your answer. | 21:24 |
| Jazzva | wow, this is bad: Unless otherwise stated within any of the files included in the Sage-Too distribution, the authors retain no copyright and reserve no rights. | 21:34 |
| Jazzva | and then comes the part that says the program is published under gpl 3 | 21:35 |
| Jazzva | Is this right? Can someone say that they claim no rights over program, and that the program is published under gpl3? | 21:36 |
| Jazzva | asac, med-xpi-pack should ignore if XPI file already exists. It breaks the build if med-xpi-pack checks for xpi file. | 22:19 |
| asac | Jazzva: yeah | 22:22 |
| Jazzva | wow... from xpi file to packaged extension in ~25 minutes. mozilla-devscripts rock :) | 22:22 |
| asac | can yo ufix that? | 22:22 |
| Jazzva | yep... I'll just remove that part and push it | 22:22 |
| asac | Jazzva: in case there are things in the intrepid sponsoring queue i failed to spot feel free to prod me so i upload ;) | 22:49 |
| Jazzva | asac, for extensions? | 22:50 |
| asac | yeah | 22:50 |
| asac | you have anything else that needs to be uploaded? | 22:50 |
| Jazzva | not atm... I think. | 22:50 |
| Jazzva | I'm waiting for sage-too developer to reply me regarding putting them as copyright holders | 22:50 |
| Jazzva | but there will be... I'm planning to see which of my extensions has updates and to update them | 22:51 |
| Jazzva | I just noticed livehttpheaders, foxyproxy, and ctxextensions are still waiting | 22:52 |
| Jazzva | But I would like to add med-xpi-pack to their debian/ dirs, so I can cleanup the rules file and to be ready when we start using med-xpi-unpack/pack | 22:53 |
| asac | Jazzva: are those finished? | 22:55 |
| asac | (waiting) | 22:55 |
| Jazzva | not quite sure. I think they were, but then I found out we're not merging extensions from Debian. I would like to recheck them. | 22:56 |
| asac | i am a bit confused. i dont see bugs about them in firefox-extensions project | 22:57 |
| asac | how should we know? | 22:57 |
| asac | did they ask for merging to the .ubuntu ubuntu-dev branch? | 22:57 |
| asac | ok flashblock backport is missing | 22:58 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/flashblock.ubuntu | 22:58 |
| asac | request for merging | 22:58 |
| asac | is pending | 22:58 |
| Jazzva | bugs for extensions I updated? Well, they're filed against their projects... | 22:58 |
| asac | hmm | 22:58 |
| Jazzva | Maybe we should add to the Packaging page that all extensions' sponsor bugs should be filed agains firefox-extensions? | 22:59 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/foxyproxy.ubuntu | 22:59 |
| asac | there is no merge request | 22:59 |
| asac | only a fix released bu | 22:59 |
| asac | g | 22:59 |
| Jazzva | hmm... maybe i still haven't linked that one. I probably wasn't sure if i need to clean it up... | 23:00 |
| Jazzva | yep... I still haven't linked it. bug 241669 | 23:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 241669 in foxyproxy "Please merge foxyproxy 2.7.5~dfsg.1-1 from debian unstable to intrepid" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241669 | 23:00 |
| asac | ok | 23:01 |
| Jazzva | asac, let me clean it up tonight, and I'll ping you :) | 23:01 |
| asac | ok for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/mozilla-ctxextensions.ubuntu there is a merge request | 23:01 |
| Jazzva | Yeah, I remember that. Just give me a second | 23:02 |
| asac | somehow we lack a search facility to find branches that have a merge request pending | 23:02 |
| asac | i mean in launchpad | 23:02 |
| Jazzva | I would like to clean it up and use med-xpi-pack :) | 23:02 |
| asac | Jazzva: if you see any ubuntu-dev branch that is not mature let me know | 23:11 |
| asac | i would love to see just release branches when looking at that long list ;) | 23:12 |
| Jazzva | ubuntu-dev branch for extensions? or att all? | 23:12 |
| asac | ubuntu-dev branch is the release branch from where auto uploads happen ;) | 23:12 |
| asac | i see that you have a mature branch as well ;) | 23:13 |
| Jazzva | right... but there are ubuntu-dev branches that are not for extensions, right :)? | 23:13 |
| asac | ctxextensions | 23:13 |
| Jazzva | it's being worked on now :) | 23:13 |
| asac | Jazzva: definitly ... thats why i need to be able to filter for "mature" in the firefox-extensions project | 23:13 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions?field.lifecycle=MATURE | 23:13 |
| asac | we dont have anything better to get a good list | 23:13 |
| Jazzva | ah... so I need to set it either to Development or Merged? | 23:14 |
| Jazzva | and Mature only when it's ready for merging? | 23:15 |
| asac | Jazzva: if its merged, "merged" would be the right thing i guess | 23:15 |
| asac | if its still proposed just use development | 23:15 |
| Jazzva | ok. | 23:16 |
| asac | Jazzva: hmm. not sure. maybe not a bad idea to set it to mature when its ready for merging | 23:16 |
| asac | however, i dont want to rely on contributors to remember to set it to merged in order to make it disappear | 23:16 |
| asac | not sure | 23:16 |
| asac | the launchpad page could be improved i guess ;) | 23:16 |
| Jazzva | hmm | 23:17 |
| Jazzva | auto-set to Merged when a commit is pushed with description "RELEASE something to dist"? | 23:17 |
| asac | we cannot easily set the branch state to "merged" unless we ask contributors to use the ~mozilla-extensions-dev team code area | 23:18 |
| asac | maybe that makes sense in the end | 23:18 |
| asac | e.g. put your proposed branches to the med team ;) | 23:18 |
| Jazzva | hmm... i thought if that can be implemented in LP... but maybe it's not worth it, as this might be an isolated case | 23:19 |
| Jazzva | asac, that's also good. And we can receive e-mail notices, so we can see when new branches are ready | 23:19 |
| asac | well. i think launchpad should get a indicator that a branch has "proposed merges" | 23:19 |
| asac | then i dont care what state the other hsa | 23:19 |
| asac | if i can also constrained a project list by "owner team" then i would be totally happy ;) | 23:20 |
| Jazzva | "a project lit by owner team"? | 23:20 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions/ - thats the projet list ;) | 23:22 |
| asac | i cannot filter "just ubuntu-dev" there | 23:22 |
| asac | if i go to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev | 23:23 |
| asac | i cannot filter by firefox-extensions ;) | 23:23 |
| asac | so i cannot filter by owner team AND project ;) | 23:23 |
| asac | at least the latter page can be sorted by project ;) | 23:23 |
| asac | ha ... i can filter the firefox-extensions page by "registrants" | 23:24 |
| asac | thats ok | 23:24 |
| Jazzva | aha, I see... | 23:25 |
| asac | still having the ability to set most contribution branches to "hidden" aka "merged" would be fine | 23:25 |
| asac | so encouraging the ~mozilla-extensions-dev team as registrant for such branches makes sense ;) | 23:25 |
| Jazzva | Hm. Ok, but we can keep 1 extensions needed rule :)... | 23:26 |
| Jazzva | just not to give access to med to everyone. It has some risk... | 23:26 |
| asac | right | 23:26 |
| asac | i think we shouldnt try to workaround launchpad problems too much. so lets keep it as it is | 23:27 |
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