| bitsbam_ | hey there all | 00:07 |
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| Kludge^WalesUK | hi bitsbam_, what you need? :) | 00:19 |
| bitsbam_ | i was needing some tips on mysql performance, i have indexes, etc.. but i am not using much RAM like i would like | 00:21 |
| bitsbam_ | i have 16 GB RAM and i am only using a bit less thank a gig | 00:22 |
| === jjesse__ is now known as jjesse | ||
| uvirtbot | New bug: #250354 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "MySQL doesn't accept non-real dates on stored procedure calls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250354 | 01:28 |
| dbbolton | i am having trouble getting X to start | 03:38 |
| dbbolton | here is the output of startx http://pastebin.us/?show=d4464addf | 03:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | try #ubuntu :) | 03:38 |
| dbbolton | <Kamping_Kaiser> they told me to try here | 03:38 |
| dbbolton | <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm running ubuntu server 8.04 | 03:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dbbolton, doesnt sound like a server problem to me. | 03:39 |
| dbbolton | so this channel is for problems relating to server stuff, not just problems that arise on ubuntu server? | 03:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Xorg isnt a server thing. its a desktop thing. IMNSHO of coure. | 03:43 |
| * azteech1 agrees with kamping_Kiser | 03:43 | |
| dbbolton | i think the people in #ubuntu just sent me here because they have no idea why it isn't working | 03:45 |
| dbbolton | x has failed on arch, debian lenny, and now ubuntu server. oddly enough it worked fine on debian etch though. | 03:46 |
| azteech1 | dbbolton: there could be any number of things which could cause Xorg to not function right - best place to start is on the Ubuntuforums.org web site .... do a search for Xorg there and go from there | 03:47 |
| azteech1 | also, you can post your problem there, and be patient. Someone shall respond with either questions, or additional input | 03:49 |
| dbbolton | azteech1 well i really don't want to ask in this channel if the question isn't relevant | 03:50 |
| dbbolton | thanks anyway | 03:51 |
| === mdz_ is now known as mdz | ||
| DMsG_ | hi guys | 09:37 |
| DMsG_ | ist der any possibility to run jdk1.6 at a V100 with 8.04? | 09:37 |
| DMsG_ | (8.04 still run at the v100, but theres no jdk avaiable) | 09:38 |
| _ruben | DMsG_: its in the multiverse repo | 09:40 |
| DMsG_ | _ruben, i become the message "Package openjdk-6-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 09:45 |
| DMsG_ | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or | 09:45 |
| DMsG_ | is only available from another source | 09:45 |
| DMsG_ | " | 09:45 |
| DMsG_ | and mulitverse is enabled | 09:55 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #250459 in net-snmp (main) "Example in snmpcmd man page shows wrong parameter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250459 | 09:55 |
| _ruben | DMsG_: i was looking at the sun one | 09:56 |
| DMsG_ | fuck - it seems that there ist no jdk for sparc available. Now i habe a big problem ;) | 09:58 |
| _ruben | download from sun.com? | 09:59 |
| DMsG_ | It issent available at sun.com | 10:00 |
| DMsG_ | it doesnt't exsit i think | 10:00 |
| Deeps | lol wut | 10:02 |
| Deeps | sun not supporting java on sparc? lol | 10:02 |
| kraut | moin | 10:03 |
| DMsG_ | Deeps, jdk @ linux @ sparc | 10:03 |
| Deeps | oh, linux sparc | 10:03 |
| Deeps | i see | 10:03 |
| Deeps | still thats pretty piss poor | 10:03 |
| Deeps | although most sparc users will be using solaris i guess | 10:03 |
| DMsG_ | yes sure | 10:04 |
| DMsG_ | but we have the 2 old v100 for a testing enviroment. So i decided to use linux. Its no productive thing | 10:04 |
| Deeps | fair enough | 10:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #250465 in openldap2.3 (main) "CVE-2008-2952: BER Decoding Remote DoS Vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250465 | 10:32 |
| nandersson | Idea: Hook up the huge Ubuntu bzr-repository (when all those 16 000 projects are imported) to the EU-sponsored project SQO-OSS (Software Quality Observatory for Open Source Software) http://www.sqo-oss.org/xwiki/bin/view/About/Screenshots | 11:42 |
| RockHound | hi everyone ... I am looking to find an little bit more up to date version of dovecot. according to bug report #189616, there was version 1.0.13 copied to hardy-updates ... I can not seem to find it though. Did I overlook something? | 11:54 |
| ivoks | i don't belive it's in updates | 11:54 |
| ivoks | maybe in -backports | 11:54 |
| ivoks | but... there's nowhere to backport from :D | 11:55 |
| ivoks | bug 189616 | 11:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 189616 in dovecot "[SRU] connection problems under load with hardy dovecot" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189616 | 11:55 |
| RockHound | ivoks: have backports enabled aswell | 11:55 |
| ivoks | 1.0.13 was uploaded to intrepid | 11:57 |
| RockHound | and according to Martin Pitts post to hardy-updates | 11:59 |
| ivoks | no, not 1.0.13 | 12:02 |
| ivoks | but a patch for 1.0.10 | 12:02 |
| RockHound | ahh ... see that is what I missed ;-) | 12:02 |
| ivoks | actually, this isn't a bug in 1.0.10 | 12:02 |
| ivoks | it's just a note in syslog that user has reached it's limit and should adopt configuration | 12:03 |
| ivoks | that's: | 12:03 |
| ivoks | 1.0.10-1ubuntu5.1 | 12:03 |
| RockHound | would security fixes as those addressed by 1.0.13 get put in backports by any chance? as 1.0.10 seems really old fo me ... | 12:03 |
| RockHound | since it is universe, I guess not | 12:04 |
| ivoks | universe? dovecot? | 12:04 |
| RockHound | no? where do I have my head today | 12:04 |
| ivoks | we backport security fixes from newer versions | 12:04 |
| RockHound | k | 12:05 |
| zul | morning | 12:50 |
| ivoks | zul: i attached a diff that fixes a 'postgres' problem in bacula, in -proposed | 12:51 |
| ivoks | i also have two pathces, one for apache and one for dovecot, if you would like to review them (part of sslv2 migration) | 12:51 |
| zul | ivoks: cool Ill take a look today | 12:51 |
| Blinny | I'm having a problem with different services repeatedly crashing on my updated Hardy Heron server - services including ssh, imap and samba. The processes are then defunct, which stinks because I can't remotely reboot the server (processes will never die on shutdown -r). I filed a bug against the kernel a few weeks ago, but I think this isn't correct, as I have received _no_ response. Any ideas? (the bug report is here: https://bugs.launchp | 13:13 |
| ivoks | you got cut off | 13:15 |
| Blinny | I filed a bug against the kernel a few weeks ago, but I think this isn't correct, as I have received _no_ response. Any ideas? (the bug report is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/242804) | 13:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 242804 in linux "Ubuntu Server x64 Kernel Oops - Random services tainted" [Undecided,New] | 13:16 |
| ivoks | you didn't report the bug against the kernel | 13:17 |
| ivoks | that's why it didn't got attention | 13:17 |
| Blinny | Should I file against Ubuntu kernel or upstream? | 13:19 |
| ivoks | i've changed it | 13:20 |
| ivoks | oh, sorry, you reported it correctly | 13:20 |
| ivoks | how much RAM do you have? | 13:23 |
| Blinny | The bummer is it's been almost a full month since original reporting. I can only assume that this is something specific to my setup, otherwise I think I would have seen others' contributions to the bug. | 13:23 |
| ivoks | there's one constant thing in your attachments | 13:24 |
| ivoks | and that's zlib | 13:24 |
| Blinny | *Nod* I noticed that too. | 13:25 |
| ivoks | wild gues | 13:25 |
| Blinny | There is a low-level hook that uses zlib: ipsec | 13:25 |
| ivoks | apt-get --reinstall install zlib1g | 13:25 |
| sommer | happy monday all | 13:27 |
| Blinny | I could take compression out of the ipsec configuration and see if that helps. | 13:27 |
| ivoks | sommer: hi | 13:27 |
| ivoks | Blinny: try that | 13:27 |
| Blinny | ivoks: I did the reinstall of zlib. | 13:28 |
| ivoks | Blinny: you should reboot after reinstallation of zlib | 13:33 |
| Blinny | ivoks: Will it hurt to wait until tomorrow? I have users already online - this is an LTSP server. | 13:34 |
| ivoks | well, almost all of services depend on zlib | 13:35 |
| ivoks | if you change it, it might produce problems to services | 13:35 |
| ivoks | it won't kill you if you wait for tomorrow :) | 13:35 |
| Blinny | Thanks ivoks | 13:35 |
| Blinny | Googling around I also found this: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0802.2/2935.html -- related to zlib deflate & ipsec w/ kernel Oopses | 13:36 |
| Blinny | ivoks: Ok. Tough to the users. I will reboot anyway. | 13:37 |
| Blinny | BRB. | 13:37 |
| ivoks | it might not solve your problem | 13:37 |
| ivoks | well, almost 3PM; time to move to the beach... | 13:39 |
| Blinny | Why would one of my ethernet cards not come back on a reboot? | 14:07 |
| Blinny | eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device | 14:07 |
| soren | lamont: You probably know this... I want to autogenerate parts of a dhcp3-server's configuration. I can't seem to find neither a conf.d sort of thing, nor an "include" directive. Is there a way to do this already, or should I be writing a patch to support one of those things? | 14:08 |
| soren | Blinny: Hardware failure? | 14:08 |
| Blinny | soren: but was just fine before reboot | 14:08 |
| Blinny | Hrm. | 14:08 |
| soren | Physical or virtual hardware? | 14:09 |
| Blinny | Physical | 14:09 |
| Blinny | BRB. Going to server room. | 14:09 |
| Blinny | Fun. | 14:09 |
| soren | Dunno then. Do you mysteriously have a new eth<some number> that you didn't before? | 14:09 |
| soren | rude | 14:09 |
| soren | lamont: Err.. The *real* problem seems to be my lack of ability to read. Forget that I asked. Please. | 14:11 |
| lamont | soren: heh | 14:11 |
| lamont | and yeah, "include" :-) | 14:12 |
| soren | Come on, I said "please" and everything! :) | 14:12 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #231199 in openvpn (universe) "revoke-full fails" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/231199 | 14:21 |
| Blinny | eth0 came back on a reboot. W-e-r-d weird. | 14:27 |
| fwest | is the apache2-ssl-certificate bug going to be fixed? | 14:36 |
| soren | Which bug is that? | 14:37 |
| fwest | the one where its missing | 14:37 |
| soren | fwest: This can go two ways: You either be more specific and tell me what the problem is (preferably referring to a bug on launchpad) so that I might actually help you or you don't and I won't. | 14:41 |
| Deeps | i pick the latter | 14:42 |
| lukehasnoname | fwest: Don't mess with the soren | 14:42 |
| soren | It really is hard to be helpful when approached with that kind of attitude. | 14:45 |
| soren | fwest: Look, Apache and SSL works great for loads of people. I can't (and won't try to) guess what your problem is, if you're not going to be helpful yourself. | 14:46 |
| Deeps | lol, having a bad day? | 14:46 |
| soren | I wasn't until about 10 minutes ago. | 14:47 |
| lukehasnoname | I need help with the bug that is messing up my desktop, what's the problem? | 14:47 |
| soren | You're using a desktop. | 14:47 |
| fwest | i can generate a cert, but i just found it easier to use the tool | 14:47 |
| soren | Oh, "the tool". | 14:48 |
| zul | mathiaz: ping ill merge the samba-3.2 this afternoon | 14:48 |
| mathiaz | zul: great | 14:48 |
| Deeps | lukehasnoname: chances are you're not using xp on your desktop, which is your first problem ;) | 14:48 |
| mathiaz | fwest: The issue has been fixed in intrepid | 14:48 |
| mathiaz | fwest: apache2 in intrepid should come with a default ssl configuration | 14:49 |
| fwest | i guess not going to be updated into hardy? | 14:49 |
| mathiaz | fwest: at least the problem was fixed in debian - we just have to merge it | 14:49 |
| fwest | ah | 14:49 |
| mathiaz | fwest: no | 14:49 |
| fwest | so much for LTS i guess | 14:50 |
| soren | fwest: Dude.. | 14:50 |
| soren | fwest: What do you think "LTS" means? | 14:50 |
| fwest | well, not that same thing it means here | 14:51 |
| Deeps | to be fair, he might have a point | 14:51 |
| Deeps | but then it does largely depend on what the definition of "support" is | 14:52 |
| soren | he might. With the verbosity he's exhibiting, it's hard to tell. | 14:52 |
| jmazaredo | do server edition of ubuntu has physical volume for RAID option? | 14:54 |
| soren | fwest: I can tell you this much: One thing LTS does *not* mean is that we'll break people's working setups to make unhelpful irc users life easier. | 14:56 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #226185 in openvpn (universe) "update-resolv-conf script does not restore old values" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/226185 | 15:03 |
| fwest | so the missing tool will break people's setup? | 15:03 |
| soren | fwest: I wouldn't know. You *still* haven't told me what "the tool" is. | 15:05 |
| * Deeps gives soren a hug | 15:05 | |
| fwest | [14:36] <fwest> is the apache2-ssl-certificate bug going to be fixed? | 15:05 |
| soren | 13:37:12 < soren> Which bug is that? | 15:06 |
| fwest | its missing | 15:06 |
| soren | 13:41:34 < soren> fwest: This can go two ways: You either be more specific and tell me what the problem is (preferably referring to a bug on launchpad) so that I might actually help you or you don't and I won't. | 15:06 |
| Deeps | fwest: i think you need to explain what the package is and what the bug is | 15:06 |
| soren | 13:46:26 < soren> fwest: Look, Apache and SSL works great for loads of people. I can't (and won't try to) guess what your problem is, if you're not going to be helpful yourself. | 15:06 |
| fwest | [14:37] <fwest> the one where its missing | 15:06 |
| Deeps | and not just expect soren to know what it is | 15:06 |
| Deeps | due to the hundreds of thousands of packages and bugs, not everyones an expert in every single field | 15:06 |
| Deeps | !info apache2-ssl-certificate | 15:07 |
| fwest | ok let me rephrase, apache2-ssl-certificate is missing | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Package apache2-ssl-certificate does not exist in hardy | 15:07 |
| fwest | its no a package | 15:07 |
| Deeps | what is it, what does it do, why should anyone care? | 15:07 |
| Deeps | and link to the launchpad bug would be very useful | 15:07 |
| fwest | generates ssl certs | 15:07 |
| soren | And what do you think ssl-cert does? | 15:07 |
| fwest | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/77675 | 15:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 77675 in apache2 "[regression] apache2-ssl-certificate has gone missing since feisty" [Wishlist,Fix released] | 15:08 |
| soren | fwest: Have you read the comments on that bug? | 15:08 |
| soren | Or just the title? | 15:08 |
| fwest | and i wondered if it would be in hardy | 15:08 |
| fwest | but i guess not | 15:08 |
| soren | Fine. Forget it. | 15:10 |
| Deeps | haha, i see you're in that bug | 15:10 |
| Deeps | i was gonna ask what the rationale is to keep ssl-cert out, and then i just saw "* Disable ssl-cert until it sucks less. related to 230791" | 15:13 |
| Deeps | but then if the issue regarding all of this has been fixed for intrepid, why not backport the relevant changes to hardy too? | 15:14 |
| soren | From what I can see, what has changed in Intrepid is the addition of an SSL VirtualHost by default. | 15:18 |
| soren | Making such changes in a stable release is very, *very* hard to do in a way that will not interfere with existing setups. | 15:19 |
| Deeps | fair enough | 15:20 |
| soren | Note that "existing setups" is not just existing installations of Hardy, but also automated scripts that install a fresh Hardy system and then runs some stuff to set the system up according to the site's policies. | 15:20 |
| soren | If 000-default suddenly defines a *:443 virtualhost, the SSL virtualhost that people used to have in 001-local.conf (or whatever) will suddenly no longer work. | 15:21 |
| Deeps | yep | 15:22 |
| soren | So please spare me the "so much for LTS" crap. | 15:22 |
| lukehasnoname | so much for LTS | 15:22 |
| lukehasnoname | I'm not spearing Deeps | 15:22 |
| lukehasnoname | *sparing | 15:22 |
| soren | This is what LTS is all about: If I have something that works, it will *keep* *working*. | 15:22 |
| fwest | you are entirely right, i found the web site definition of LTS | 15:31 |
| fwest | just security updates | 15:31 |
| * soren wonders where it says that | 15:32 | |
| fwest | http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu | 15:32 |
| fwest | its in bold | 15:32 |
| CrummyGummy | Hi all, one of our Ubuntu servers stopped reponding to networking for a while this morning. One of the guys touched the keyboard and it started to respond. Something like a screen-saver effect although there is no such thing installed (not even a GUI). Any one else seen this? | 15:32 |
| lukehasnoname | CrummyGummy: Was the computer asleep? | 15:33 |
| * soren sighs | 15:33 | |
| veNom_bz | haha | 15:33 |
| soren | fwest: Where exactly does it say "just"? | 15:33 |
| fwest | it doesn't say anything else | 15:34 |
| soren | fwest: Or "only" or any other synomyn thereof. | 15:34 |
| CrummyGummy | lukehasnoname: seemed to be.... Not by planning though. | 15:34 |
| CrummyGummy | Is should always be up. | 15:34 |
| soren | CrummyGummy: I've seen it happen in a virtual machine, but not on real hardware. | 15:34 |
| soren | Anything of interest in dmesg? | 15:34 |
| soren | fwest: You'll have to forgive our evident inability to convey *every* *single* characteristic of Ubuntu in 7 short paragraphs. | 15:36 |
| veNom_bz | CrummyGummy, what hardware are you on? the system at the hardware level may have switched off your nic... | 15:36 |
| fwest | soren: well I am just trying to understand what to expect | 15:36 |
| soren | fwest: I recommend looking stuff up (and reading what it says) and then asking, if stuff is still unclear. | 15:37 |
| fwest | so where is the complete definition of what LTS means | 15:38 |
| _ruben | strange . fresh install of ubuntu server 7.10 x86_64 .. machine has 6GB ram, yet `free` only shows me 4 .. | 15:38 |
| gctaylor | Hi, is JeOS recommended if I -don't- want to distribute virtual appliances? Just run my own VMs. Like win and/or Linux flavors on vmware server. | 15:38 |
| CrummyGummy | Some sort of generic AMD server. I think its a MSI board. | 15:38 |
| lukehasnoname | fwest: Not just security updates, but focused on that | 15:38 |
| lukehasnoname | bug updates, as well | 15:38 |
| CrummyGummy | I haven't seen this sort of thing before upgrading to Hardy. | 15:38 |
| soren | fwest: No such definition exists, as far as I know. | 15:39 |
| CrummyGummy | Thats why I was wondering if there might be something new ther. | 15:39 |
| soren | fwest: Other than: | 15:39 |
| lukehasnoname | fwest: but major revisions and new features are not arbitrarily added | 15:39 |
| soren | It will be supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on the server. | 15:39 |
| fwest | lukehasnoname: what about missing one, tools that were there | 15:39 |
| lukehasnoname | :s | 15:39 |
| fwest | its not clear what supported means, | 15:40 |
| veNom_bz | CrummyGummy, i've never encoutered such a thing and i've been using hardy server since release (in a situation where it would sit for days) look at your hardware if this problem presists | 15:40 |
| soren | fwest: No. And it can't be. | 15:40 |
| CrummyGummy | *there* | 15:40 |
| soren | CrummyGummy: Anything of interest in dmesg? | 15:40 |
| soren | fwest: I'll tell you this much: | 15:40 |
| soren | Changes in hardy are *not* going to happen if the people with problems refuse to explain what their problem is. | 15:41 |
| fwest | soren: well as it didn't take long to establish a tool was missing | 15:41 |
| soren | And no, your problem is *not* that some random utility is missing. Your problem *might* be that you now don't know how to do something, because tools have changed. | 15:42 |
| soren | But I don't know. Because you don't tell me. | 15:42 |
| soren | See how it works? | 15:42 |
| fwest | i think i did, as a conversation directly related to the missing tool | 15:43 |
| soren | Them I'm clearly the stupid one. | 15:43 |
| soren | I also happen to be one of the people who could fix it. | 15:44 |
| fwest | well to answer my question, the answer is probably not | 15:44 |
| soren | ..but seeing as I'm stupid and don't understand your problem and you refuse to help, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for things to change. | 15:44 |
| Blinny | I've read about a particular bug in the linux kernel mailing list. It was reported and spoke of being pushed to 2.6.24-stable in March. I'm still seeing the result of this bug, even though I'm on an updated 8.04 2.6.24.19.21 linux-image-generic -- How can I check to be sure that the actual March kernel bug fix is in Ubuntu's current linux-image-generic short of downloading the source? | 15:45 |
| soren | Blinny: The kernel's changelog lists the upstream changes that were imported. | 15:47 |
| soren | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-meta_2.6.24.19.21/changelog | 15:48 |
| soren | Look for "Upstream changes" | 15:48 |
| Blinny | soren: Bully. Thank you. | 15:48 |
| soren | Blinny: Whoops, wrong link. | 15:48 |
| soren | Blinny: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/linux_2.6.24-19.36/changelog | 15:49 |
| soren | There, that one. | 15:49 |
| Blinny | Cheers. | 15:50 |
| soren | Any time :) | 15:50 |
| _ruben | [ 40.008864] Memory: 3993236k/6291456k available (2295k kernel code, 135080k reserved, 1238k data, 308k init) | 15:50 |
| _ruben | hrmm | 15:50 |
| * _ruben starts looking for boot options to enable that other 2gig | 15:51 | |
| soren | fwest: If it wasn't obvious, my last remark to you was an implicit suggestion that you'd restate your question in terms that I might understand. | 15:51 |
| soren | _ruben: Which kernel and architecture? | 15:52 |
| soren | i386 and generic, perhaps? | 15:52 |
| _ruben | x86_64 and -server | 15:52 |
| _ruben | dual 1st gen opteron | 15:53 |
| fwest | soren: i thought we established that the missing tool from apache2 was not going to make it into hardy | 15:53 |
| soren | We did. | 15:55 |
| soren | 14:42:03 < soren> And no, your problem is *not* that some random utility is missing. Your problem *might* be that you now don't know how to do something, because tools have changed. | 15:55 |
| soren | Try stating your *problem* rather than repeating the (wrong) solution to said problem. | 15:56 |
| fwest | i no longer have a problem | 15:57 |
| fwest | my expectation has been set | 15:57 |
| soren | Cool. Glad I could help. | 15:57 |
| fwest | thank you | 15:57 |
| _ruben | time to go home .. the hunt for the missing 2gb will continue tomorow :) | 16:02 |
| CrummyGummy | bios | 16:02 |
| _ruben | bios shows 6GB when booting | 16:02 |
| CrummyGummy | memory hole is set? | 16:02 |
| soren | _ruben: Hardy? | 16:02 |
| _ruben | soren: gutsy | 16:03 |
| soren | Oh. | 16:03 |
| _ruben | dont think there's a vmware-server package for hardy yet | 16:03 |
| _ruben | untill i roll my own, i'll just gutsy | 16:03 |
| _ruben | might give hardy a shot to see if it does see the 6gg | 16:03 |
| Blinny | _ruben: 3993236k/6291456k available looks like 6 gigs to me | 16:04 |
| _ruben | Blinny: the 2nd number does, yet the 1st number is what's actually being available | 16:04 |
| _ruben | hence `free` shows 4gigs of ram | 16:04 |
| soren | _ruben: I'd ask in #ubuntu-kernel. | 16:04 |
| _ruben | soren: i'll probably do so, tomorrow .. thanks anyways :) | 16:05 |
| soren | _ruben: Note that the kernel team is mostly US based, so this is probably a good time to catch their attention. | 16:05 |
| _ruben | ah | 16:05 |
| * _ruben takes a quick peek | 16:05 | |
| soren | _ruben: Tomorrow morning (European time) not so much.. | 16:05 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #250549 in net-snmp (main) "Wrong interface speed from snmpd running as snmp user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250549 | 16:41 |
| godsyn | Just a heads up. I was in here a couple of days ago complaining about my fast system clock.. Turns out I was auto-over clocking via my bios.. I know, I know, I'm a tard.. at any rate, all better. Turned it off. | 17:17 |
| godsyn | all is well. | 17:17 |
| biz | Hello, is someone aware of http://www.policyd.org/v2/ packages? | 17:19 |
| biz | postfix-policyd* stuff is the 1.* branch | 17:19 |
| * delcoyote hi | 17:33 | |
| zul | mathiaz: samba-3.2 uploaded | 18:10 |
| duiu | Can I ask a CUPS question on this channel? Because the ##cups channel is somewhat worthless. | 18:50 |
| _ruben | duiu: dont ask to ask, such 'questions' are often ignored .. whether or not the actual question is appropriate here depends on the actual question anyways | 19:02 |
| duiu | OK, I"m trying to remotely configure CUPS via the web admin from another computer on the local network. Everything works until I get to the screen where I have to authenticate, upon which I enter in the password for a user that's a member of lpadmin group, and then I get an error (Though the site seems valid, the browser was unable to establish a connection.) in my browser and then I have to... | 19:05 |
| duiu | ...reload the default config file, restart cups, change the file to the modified for my network version, restart cups, and try again | 19:05 |
| duiu | Is there something I have to do to get CUPS authentication to work? | 19:05 |
| duiu | Screw it, I just disable authentication and it worked | 19:15 |
| duiu | *disabled | 19:15 |
| ivoks | hello | 19:30 |
| zul | hey ivoks | 19:31 |
| ivoks | does anyone think we should disable sslv2 even on upgrades? | 19:31 |
| ivoks | (i do) | 19:32 |
| ivoks | otherwise i'll quite and move to redhat :D | 19:32 |
| ivoks | quit even :D | 19:32 |
| sommer | seriously? | 19:34 |
| ivoks | i know you would like that :) | 19:34 |
| sommer | heck no... wouldn't wish redhat on anyone, hah | 19:35 |
| ivoks | no, seriously... it's very hard to package that change | 19:35 |
| ivoks | with apache it's easy, with dovecot, it's easy | 19:35 |
| ivoks | but with vsftpd... not | 19:35 |
| ivoks | i can't just change conffile from postinst | 19:35 |
| ivoks | next upgrade would pop the question for a user | 19:36 |
| sommer | I don't have strong feelings either way, but seem like sslv3 is the way to go | 19:36 |
| sommer | so for vsftpd if v2 isn't there will it automagically use v3 >? | 19:37 |
| ivoks | that's default for all sane applications | 19:38 |
| sommer | that's what I was thinking | 19:38 |
| ivoks | firefox doesn't even try with v2 | 19:38 |
| ivoks | same goes for IE and opera | 19:39 |
| ivoks | if server provides sslv3 and tls, client will connect over it | 19:39 |
| ivoks | there might be some old clients (pre-2000.) which don't support sslv3 or tls | 19:39 |
| ivoks | but.. even netscape4 supports tls and sslv3 | 19:40 |
| sommer | heh, that's pretty far back | 19:40 |
| sommer | does redhat disable sslv2? | 19:41 |
| sommer | just out of curiosity | 19:41 |
| ivoks | i don't know, but it doesn't have debian packaging guidelines :D | 19:41 |
| mindframe- | ivoks, you can force certain ciphers w/ vsftpd | 19:41 |
| ivoks | mindframe-: the issue is packaging | 19:42 |
| ivoks | if we agree to disable sslv2 on upgrade, then everything is fine | 19:42 |
| emgent | zul: new intrepid server will be use /var/www or /srv/www ? | 19:43 |
| ivoks | but, if we decide to keep sslv2 on upgrade and disable it only on new installations, then we have a packaging problem | 19:43 |
| zul | emgent: hmm? | 19:43 |
| zul | /var/www | 19:43 |
| emgent | nice! | 19:44 |
| zul | still | 19:44 |
| emgent | zul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyGuiApacheSetup | 19:44 |
| ivoks | emgent: this is a workstation/desktop tool, right? | 19:44 |
| zul | emgent: you might want to bring that up in the server meeting tomorrow | 19:44 |
| emgent | ok nice. | 19:45 |
| emgent | zul: i'm not available for server meeting, but Tacone (other rapache devel) can join. | 19:47 |
| zul | emgent: sure please add it to the agenda in the wiki | 19:47 |
| emgent | sure. | 19:47 |
| emgent | ivoks: yeah now. | 19:55 |
| emgent | ivoks: http://en.emanuele-gentili.com/index.php/2008/07/17/rapache-05-is-out-go-to-test-it/ | 19:55 |
| ivoks | i noticed it, but i'm a cli guy :) | 19:56 |
| emgent | :) | 19:57 |
| ivoks | a2ensite is top of the automatization for me :D | 19:58 |
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| mathiaz | nijaba: check this out - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImproveSSLCert | 20:52 |
| mathiaz | nijaba: that's what I tought about during lunch | 20:52 |
| phaidros | mathiaz: just for curiosity .. is it possible yet to use different ssl certs on a webserver on the same IP ? | 21:02 |
| phaidros | so to say multiple vhosts with each its own ssl cert .. didn't know thats possible yet | 21:03 |
| mathiaz | phaidros: well - not really - support for SNI is not enabled in apache2 as of now | 21:03 |
| phaidros | mathiaz: do you have hint what SNI is? | 21:03 |
| phaidros | (just didn't follow this issue quite a while) | 21:04 |
| mathiaz | phaidros: that's support for multiple ssl cert over one IP | 21:04 |
| phaidros | mathiaz: kewl, just reading about it .. sounds good :) | 21:04 |
| emgent | hi mathiaz | 21:05 |
| phaidros | lets see if its avail for lighty ! | 21:05 |
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| phaidros | mathiaz: so it seems SNI is already available in lighty, so your ImproveSSLCert draft might consider handling lighttpd as well :) | 21:46 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: ping | 23:27 |
| emgent | heya kirkland | 23:28 |
| kirkland | emgent: howdy dude | 23:28 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ahhhh - you scared me | 23:29 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: ? how so? | 23:29 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: you're ping... is scary ;) | 23:30 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: *your* | 23:30 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: anyway - what's up ? | 23:30 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InitScriptStatusActions | 23:30 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I added to the bottom of that page a list of init scripts | 23:30 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: those come from installing the Intrepid Ubuntu Server, Desktop, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu, and grepping through /etc/init.d for scripts that lack "status)" | 23:31 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: it needs a bit of vetting, but that gives us a decent list of the most commonly seen init scripts | 23:31 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: right - this list has to be reviewed and trimmed down | 23:31 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: absolutely | 23:32 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I can see udev in there, and it should be be | 23:32 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: right | 23:32 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: *shouldn't* | 23:32 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I thought you might help me trim it? | 23:32 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: there are a few I will be adding (squid comes to mind, as i found it dead on my server at home sometime last week) | 23:32 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I'd first filter the list by daemons | 23:33 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: if there's a daemon, put it on the list | 23:33 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: okay, i'll try to clean it up some before tomorrow's meeting | 23:33 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: if there isn't a daemon running, your status_of_proc doesn't really help | 23:34 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: "supposed to be running" ;-) | 23:34 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: getting a status may require some package specific code | 23:34 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: seems great - so that we can review it during the meeting tomorrow | 23:34 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: okay, cool | 23:35 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: thanks, back to your less-frightening work ;-) | 23:35 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I'm reviewing a new package: libapache-mod-passenger (modrails) - it's not that scary | 23:36 |
| pschulz01 | Greetings.. | 23:41 |
| pschulz01 | What is the best (quickest) ftp server to install. | 23:41 |
| pschulz01 | I just need an anonymous ftp server on my network. | 23:42 |
| pschulz01 | Greetings | 23:44 |
| mathiaz | pschulz01: vsftpd | 23:48 |
| pschulz01 | Ta.. I tried ftpd, but it didn;t 'just work'. | 23:52 |
| pschulz01 | mathiaz: Excellent.. that's just want i like to see :-).. and apt-get install.. It's alive :-) | 23:54 |
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