[00:00] i just upgraded to intrepid, and i was wondering what the goadmin etc are under accessories? [00:58] Hi all, I am running xubuntu 8.04 with compiz. Anyone have any idea how to make the gnome-screensaver (the one xfce4 uses) to work with compiz? [01:00] It doesn't work? [01:01] Not on my system at least. [01:01] I am able to preview the screensaver (with lots of flicker), but it does not automatically kick in. [01:02] And I have been using linux for more than 10 years, so I am sure I actually have the screensaver enabled :) [01:02] bradftas, can you tell me the comments of ~/.dmrc ? [01:03] [Desktop]Session=default [01:03] two lines [01:03] [Desktop] [01:03] Session=default [01:03] Yes, thats the issue [01:03] Log back out to gdm [01:03] click session, xfce4 [01:03] and then log back in, making xfce4 your default [01:04] I will be back in a minute to let you know how it works. [01:09] cody-somerville: that did the trick. Now if I can get get rid of the flicker [01:10] :) [01:10] that is just to wicked. the session name hosed me. [01:11] hmm? [01:12] anom01y, can you fix your connection please? :P [01:13] cody-somerville: what do you mean ? [01:13] ahh I thought that was the server [01:13] anom01y, you keep disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. :) [02:06] Does anyone have a problem where the xubuntu livecd, while loading the kernel, when it makes it to 100%, the computer just shuts off? [02:06] Ouch [02:06] using xubuntu x_86 8.04 [02:06] You might want to visit #ubuntu-kernel tomorrow during working hours [02:06] well, ubuntu live cd works [02:07] So I almost don't see why xubuntu goes kaput [02:07] ISEE-gentoolivec, ah [02:07] Did you verify your cd burned correctly? [02:08] No [02:09] I can't really check as I dont have another machine lying around and a burner with the iso near me [02:09] Wonder if I can install xubuntu from a gentoo live cd [02:10] ISEE-gentoolivec, there is an option at boot [02:12] Well im just here in a minimal cd right now on irssi [02:12] well /me thinks he will try burning another cd [02:12] ttyl [02:12] * cody-somerville nods. [02:12] Thanks for dropping by! [02:12] no problem [02:58] can someone tell me how I install themes for xubuntu.. first time xubuntu user long time ubuntu user .. trying to find my way around xfce :) [02:59] BSG75, :) [03:01] cody-somerville: :) [03:01] !xfce-themes | BSG75 [03:01] BSG75: Themes for Xfce4 are simply GTK2+ themes which means Gnome themes are also compatible with your xfce4 desktop. To install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/ To install icons, unpack them to ~/.icons/ - Visit http://www.xfce-look.org/ for all kinds of eyecandy for your Xfce4 desktop! - See also !themes for other GNOME theme sites [03:01] sweet [03:08] Howdy. The panels in XFCE are rather dull. Is there anyway to spiff them up a bit like skins or anything? [03:08] whileimhere, yup [03:09] Can you tell me about them cody [03:09] http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [03:11] Perfect. I will try it now. [03:13] I wonder if I can get AWM to work on this laptop [03:13] You can, yes. [03:14] I know it would not work under GNOME. [03:14] Think XFCE might do it? [03:15] http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ [03:19] okay, I must be doing something wrong because I untar'd the theme into .themes and when I relog nothing changes :( [03:19] I get this Checking for hardware/setup problems... [WARN] as the only non green one. [03:19] iht the compiz check script any idea why really? [03:21] can I install on XFCE AWM without all the compiz? [03:24] BSG75, you have to select the theme from applications > settings > settings manager [03:24] and then click on user interface or whatever [03:27] thank you :) [03:30] wow xfce is customizable :) [03:31] I think I like it better than kde4.1 [03:43] hi how do i start display manager of xfce .. [03:46] hey cody-somerville [03:46] Heya [03:46] arvind_khadri, click session at login, click xfce, and then login [03:46] The disk works now and xubuntu is installed :) [03:46] cody-somerville, from a terminal i mean... [03:46] Was just wondering how I can add administrative tasks of some sort to the panel [03:47] ISEE-xubuntu, a few yea, just right click, click add to panel, and thats whats available [03:47] arvind_khadri, starxfce4 [03:47] cody-somerville, what is the gdm equivalent in xfce [03:47] unfortunately I did not see it [03:47] cody-somerville: [03:47] cody-somerville, ok .. [03:47] that is ok though cody-somerville` [03:48] arvind_khadri, gdm [03:51] um my panels and start menu just disapeared [03:52] :S [03:52] ISEE-xubuntu, press alt+f2 [03:52] and type in: xfce4-panel [03:53] cody-somerville: thank you [03:53] np [03:57] does gnome-screensaver actually rely on anything gnome specific? or is it just gtk that xfce could use? [03:57] how can i clear the recently viewed items in the default movie player? [03:58] what's the default movie player? [03:58] gxine? [03:58] i think so [03:58] it just says movie player [03:58] * burner_ shrugs [04:00] cody-somerville: Ubuntu usually automounts other ext3 and NTFS partitions. Is this true with xubuntu or do I need to change things manually in fstab [04:00] ISEE-xubuntu, I don't think it auto mounts currently. [04:00] righto === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [05:22] hi everyone! [05:22] i have a question about ALSA [05:22] any takers? [05:25] it's really quiet in here [05:25] maybe now is a bad time [05:30] maybe ask it over in #Ubuntu [05:31] or maybe there is a channel #ALSA [05:31] i'll try that [07:39] this may be a crazy question, but can i convert ntfs to fat32? [07:39] tried a google [07:39] well [07:39] didnt try hard enough [07:41] neither ntfs or fat32 are linux filesystems, so I guess you should try asking on ##windows or something [07:41] well what im tryin to do is have a large hard drive for data, accessible between xubuntu and windows [07:42] i didn't think ntfs support was fully there [07:42] from what i read, some ppl have data destroyed [07:42] !ext3 [07:42] ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org [07:45] ah [07:45] im torn [07:45] ntfs of ext3 [07:45] or* [07:45] i mean, the data is already here... well, bout 1/3 i backed up to ext3 [07:46] afaik both are not 100% reliable [07:46] k [07:47] well since i do have 2 PCs [07:47] i think this one gonna run xubuntu, and the other windows [08:00] Hi, is it possible to get Compiz-effects to Xubuntu-desktop? I tried to download them by Synatic but can't find them anymore. ;/ [08:01] it is possible, but involves a little more work than in ubuntu, there should be howtos on the forum [08:02] Ok. ;) [08:02] hey [08:02] I got a link for u [08:02] Ege123 [08:02] ? [08:02] http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ [08:02] i did that [08:02] using hardy [08:02] i played with it for 3 hours [08:02] lol [08:03] Ok, i try. :D [08:03] that's using compiz fusion [08:03] btw [08:23] cool [08:24] i helped someone [08:42] :) [08:45] cody-somerville: how do i blend the two panels on my xubuntu desktop so they don't overlap or get in the view of eachother [08:45] i want to have a single taskbar-like bar [08:46] CostaRicanQuaker, You could delete the second one [08:47] whatmwill happen when i minize then? and how do i get the desktop icon on the first one and the several workspaces? [08:47] cody-somerville: [08:47] CostaRicanQuaker, you'd have to add those applets to your lone panel [08:48] cody-somerville: is that option available at the settings panel? [08:49] * CostaRicanQuaker just removed second panel and can't find the minimized stuff on the panel #1 [08:49] right click the panel [08:49] and click add to pane [08:49] err "Add new item" [08:51] then? [08:51] i mean i added the new desktop [08:51] but how do i get theprograms to minimize unto it [08:51] and windows [09:00] cody-somerville:? [09:00] add task list [09:00] * cody-somerville is going to bed now. [09:01] thankyou [09:07] can i add compiz-fusion to xubuntu? [09:07] yzyz' [09:07] http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ [09:07] i like it [09:07] maxxx eyecandy [09:08] bassboi: will it slow down my computer like it did on gnome and kde or will it actually work on xubuntu considring the lightness of xubuntu [09:09] OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP2 (Build #2600) CPU: Intel Pentium 4 , 3.00 GHz, 0KB Video: ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 Series (1024x768x32bpp 70Hz) Sound: Realtek HD Audio output Memory: Used: 251/447MB Uptime: 4h 36m 2s HD: Free: 87.85 GB/298.09 GB Connection: Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 179.15MB Sent: 8.10MB) [09:09] runs it fine [09:09] sorry for all the messyness [09:09] point bein, 512MB RAM and onboard graphics [09:10] oh [09:10] what you got? [09:10] how do i check from the terminal? [09:12] lshw [09:12] i think you need to apt-get it [09:12] but it shows me what i need [09:12] hey will u be here in about 10min or so? [09:12] im on windows [09:12] i wanna go back to xubuntu [09:12] gotta reboot [09:12] mb [09:12] k [09:12] sec [09:18] how do i take a screenshot? [09:19] Hi all, i want to remove the shutdown button in the shutdown windows, where can i change that ? [09:27] ok [09:28] sorry for the wait [09:28] didn't realize firewall was being dumb [09:30] firewall? i heard firewalls weren't necesary on *buntu considering it doesn't come with any default openportds [09:31] ah [09:31] my PC was sitting on open DSL last night [09:31] i got kinda worried since it wasn't behind a router [09:32] is there something similar to alt ctrl del on windows to terminate a process here on xubuntu? [09:33] never heard of anything bro [09:37] where can i find autostarted applications in xubuntu.. it's not in applications>settings [09:38] CostaRicanQuaker: Applications > System > System Monitor ? [09:42] i was thinking that, but wasn't entirely sure if that was the right thing [09:43] bassboi: Applications > Settings > Setting manager [09:44] bah [09:44] i looked there twice [09:44] it's the first one [09:44] * bassboi slaps self [09:47] question, i jsut switched from windows [09:48] received the kubuntu cds from shipit [09:48] installed it and got rid of windowws [09:48] CostaRicanQuaker: :) [09:48] now, lts means that i don't have to or shouldn't get the next set of releases until the new lts comes out [09:48] and hterefore i won't need to upgrade to intrepid ibex when it comes out [09:49] CostaRicanQuaker: what does "lts" mean ? [09:49] long time support [09:49] ah, right [09:49] that means that until the date... i think it's in 2011 or something [09:49] what does that imply? [09:49] you get software updates [09:49] CostaRicanQuaker: LTS means you'll get software update until 2011 [09:49] you can upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 on the fly [09:50] so i don't need to order more cds from shipit everytime theres a release? [09:50] nope [09:50] although, I'm not sure if this concerns *all* packages... it might only be security updates only when hardy come obselete [09:50] instead i'm encouraged to keep hardy till ? [09:50] 2011* [09:50] agreed AlexCONRAD [09:51] Well, when the next release comes out, you'll have the option to upgrade to that one [09:51] security upgrades and backports [09:51] wont ya? [09:52] CostaRicanQuaker: I'm just curious, why did you get CDs ? Is your download link too slow ? [09:52] I was wondering the same [09:52] i spent 10 cdrs on images that were apparently well hashed and then i burnt them, checkd them for errors and they were corrupted [09:52] from torrents, servers, nothing worked [09:53] CostaRicanQuaker: this probably due to your burning software or CD drive [09:54] i used nero [09:54] i don't know [09:54] burner always seemed to work [09:54] * CostaRicanQuaker shrugs [09:55] CostaRicanQuaker: did you check the checksum before burning ? [09:55] yes [09:55] they all seemed fine [09:56] will xubuntu eventually be available from shipit? [09:57] Strange then. It happened to me a couple of time to have a wrongly burnt CD. But I just reburn it again, and it just works... [09:59] you don't have to download the file from multiple locations everytime a CD failed. If you're sure the checksum is correct, then the image is fine and your download was not corrupted. [09:59] maybe try an other brand of CDs. I don't know... [10:00] * CostaRicanQuaker loves xubuntu [10:00] the only thing i would like to be able to change is [10:01] "Network" to "internet" on the apps menu [10:03] CostaRicanQuaker: you'd like to rename the menu entry "Network" to "internet" ? [10:04] yes [10:04] i don't see how as i couldn't find the option [10:04] CostaRicanQuaker: I don't know how this could be done actually [10:05] hmmm i wonder [10:06] CostaRicanQuaker: My guess is that applications are being installed in menu entry names in a hardcoded way. Meaning that if you find out how to rename the entry, and want to install a new application that normally lives under "Network", it will recreate that entry. [10:07] explain again [10:07] CostaRicanQuaker: Under windows, each application creates its own entry in the "start" menu during installation. [10:08] CostaRicanQuaker: under xubuntu, application create their entry under a specific entry of the menu [10:09] so if say i knew code [10:09] and found a way to write it so that network would be internet like on kde and gnome [10:09] things would automatically go in there as theyre suposed to [10:09] is that wha tyou mean? [10:09] CostaRicanQuaker: so if you find a way to rename "Network" to "Internet", chances are that future application that you might install which normally lives under "Network", won't find the entry an create it automaticly. Again, that's just a guess as I never played with that really. [10:10] oh [10:10] that's just my 2 cents [10:11] i might be wrong though [10:12] how do i get a clock on my desktop [10:12] nevertheless, if you figure out how to rename that menu entry, you'll learn by your self by experimenting [10:12] i've seen that but i don't see that option when i click on the watch properties [10:12] CostaRicanQuaker: as a widget ? [10:13] widget=? [10:13] widget = buzz word, look it up :) [10:14] adesklets , gdesklets , screenlets for a clock [10:14] how do i check if i have it already installed? [10:16] CostaRicanQuaker: you can use "synaptic", its a package manager [10:20] it says i wont be able to run it as admin [10:21] ebastian@sebastian:~$ sudo adept [10:21] [sudo] password for sebastian: [10:21] sudo: adept: command not found [10:21] [5]+ Stopped sudo adept [10:21] sebastian@sebastian:~$ [10:22] CostaRicanQuaker: what's adept ? [10:22] synaptic on kde [10:22] CostaRicanQuaker: then it might not be installed [10:23] you must install it first [10:23] it is [10:23] apt-get install adept [10:23] i just figured out how to open synaptic as root though [10:23] (prepend sudo) [10:23] looking for adesklets [10:24] a neat command line tool is the "search" option of "aptitude", which is a package manager just as apt-get [10:24] aptitude search adept [10:24] aptitude search adesklets [10:25] intstalling it with synaptic [10:25] next will be finding...gdesklets [10:27] setting the clock won't recquire a huge amount of memory right? [10:28] i'm 248mb [10:28] on* [10:31] there we go [10:33] CostaRicanQuaker: you'll figure it out your self :) [10:33] bassboi: i just finished gettind gdesklets, screenlets, and adesklets, how do i set a clock on my desktop now? [10:34] ok [10:34] never messed with that [10:35] seems like my PC is reaching almost it's limit with compiz fusion [10:35] runs hella quick with just xfce [10:35] but when i activate compiz, it's quite responsive, but the effects kind of jitter [10:36] and sometimes theres none [10:36] I have a customized xubuntu installation, I'm only using 80 megs of ram when it boots up [10:40] very nice [10:49] AlexCONRAD: how do i do that? [10:51] CostaRicanQuaker: well, I've created a modified CD of xubuntu, which has a customized preseed install process that I can choose during the boot menu. That preseed lists the packages I want installed only. [10:51] CostaRicanQuaker: so the installation goes pretty fast as I'm installing fewer packages than the default [10:52] and only install what I need. It's pretty minimalist [10:52] what packages are those? [10:52] and this is not for full desktop usage experience [10:52] whats it for? [10:54] set-top-box [10:54] build-essential gdm xfonts-base xserver-xorg libgl1-mesa-dri xfce4-session xfwm4 xfdesktop4 xfce4-panel xfce4-terminal xfce4-mcs-plugins xfce4-mcs-plugins-extra xfce4-mcs-plugins-extra gtk2-engines-murrine tango-icon-theme ttf-dejavu-core dmz-cursor-theme xubuntu-default-settings thunar thunar-archive-plugin file-roller gnome-system-tools gnome-system-monitor network-manager [10:55] these are the packages I install (which of course installs their dependencies) [10:56] Under my "Applications", I only have Settings, Accessories, Network, System entries. [10:56] Each entry has very few applications [10:57] oh well, it's 4 am., i better go to bed [10:57] laters [10:57] :) [11:14] sonovabitch [11:15] i think i could convert a windows user [11:15] don't [11:17] i dont think i will [11:17] i had to repair their windows install [11:17] too much stuff on startup [11:36] samba won't install for me [12:37] hey, what is the reliability of xubuntu? [12:37] no guarantees [12:38] my uptime so far is about 12 hours i think, is there some way i can tell? [12:39] uname -a [12:39] no, sorry [12:39] uptime [12:40] 13:40:37 up 55 days, 22:34, 4 users, load average: 4.81, 4.11, 3.86 [12:40] I guess it's time to upgrade kernel :) [13:08] lol [13:08] uptime [13:09] hmm, i dont get it, is it because im using xchat? [13:14] -a [13:17] thats better [13:17] why does it say 2 users when im the only user? [13:28] AlexJP: it counts all virtual terminals [13:28] AlexJP: the command 'who' will display all users and their terminals [13:31] TheSheep thanks [14:04] is there anyway to recover my old windows data from a hdd which now has linux installed [14:05] AlexJP: it *might* be possible, but i can't promise much [14:06] AlexJP: let me get you a link to some documentation on the tool, it is available through the repositories [14:07] AlexJP: but you will need to be very careful when reading the documentation and don't jump the gun on using the application (i did the first time i used it and ended up losing all my data forever, but i have since then used it and recovered plenty of data) [14:07] AlexJP: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk and http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec [14:08] AlexJP: i believe the package name is photorec and the package includes both applications [14:16] ok, and itll be able to recover data from the ntfs ? [14:16] even though i reparted it to ext3?? [14:35] darn, I'm having a hardtime to make my ATI card to work [14:35] glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" returns "no" [14:35] I'm using the "ati" driver in xorg.conf [15:09] AlexCONRAD: i think you need fglrx instead of ati [15:09] maxamillion: that's the proprietary version, right ? [15:10] AlexCONRAD: yes, but as far as i know that is the only way to get direct rendering right now [15:10] maxamillion: aah ok [15:10] i don't think the open source driver can do 3d accelerations [15:10] acceleration* [15:10] maxamillion: i think I read it does, only limited [15:10] ah [15:10] well that's good, atleast they are working towards it [15:11] or maybe it's the radeonhd drivers [15:11] hey, i have just installed conpwiz and lost all my decs [15:11] anyone help ? [15:12] wow, motion blur is working though :-D [15:54] can anyone help me with compiz ? [15:57] AlexJP, whats wrong? [16:01] all my window decorations have gone [16:01] and i cant use the desktop cube thing [16:01] it only has two sides [16:02] front and back, its flat instead of 3d, like a sheet of paper, i can flip it round but there is only 2 sides [16:10] cody-somerville any ideas? [16:10] presss alt + f2 [16:11] and run: compiz --replace [16:14] still no decorations [16:14] do you think i would be better of using ubuntu ? [16:14] AlexJP, How would I know that? :) [16:29] Hi Guys! [16:29] Would someone please be so kind as to help this n00b.... ;) [16:30] My Xubuntu display is way too big... I think its 1050 or higher [16:30] and my laptop is 1280x800.. yet I cant change this.. [16:30] not even in xorg.conf... its has default values, unlike from what I know in ubuntu... [16:32] anyone? please guys [16:33] Hi [16:33] Applications > Settings > Settings Manager > Display [16:34] Yay! Thanks for answerung cody-somerville! [16:34] But... [16:34] nope... it only has "default" [16:34] no other options.. [16:34] Okay [16:34] run sud dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [16:34] erm [16:34] sudo [16:35] tried it [16:35] nowhere does it ask about display.. [16:35] and -phigh also didnt help [16:36] I'm downloading the alternative iso... hopefully it will help? [16:36] I think it's running in vesa mode.... [16:36] but the AGP is VIA Chrome... [16:36] (which I have never got to work with any *nix distro) [16:37] kwagga, what version are you running? [16:37] xubuntu 8.04 [16:38] X86 [16:38]