[00:00] <apachelogger> http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2008/07/light-years-ago-work-on-oxygen-theme.html
[00:01] <JontheEchidna> cool
[00:02] <JontheEchidna> well that satisfies cmake
[00:02] <JontheEchidna> and no ftbfs either
[00:02] <JontheEchidna> Every file is in it's place
[00:02] <JontheEchidna> and I remembered to use proper cdbs ;)
[00:02] <apachelogger> oh
[00:02] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you run list-missing?
[00:02] <JontheEchidna> yup
[00:03] <JontheEchidna> a few new .so's
[00:03] <apachelogger> okay
[00:03] <JontheEchidna> Ok, I think this backport is ready
[00:03]  * JontheEchidna feels nixternal's beta1 packaging pain
[00:05] <apachelogger> we just need better management
[00:06] <apachelogger> ...ensuring better load distribution
[00:06]  * JontheEchidna wonders where the diff.gz for ~hardy1~ppa1 is...
[00:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ../ ;P
[00:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: plugins ppa3 uploaded
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> cool
[00:08] <JontheEchidna> I see a ~hardy1~ppa1 tar.gz, but not a diff.gz
[00:10] <JontheEchidna> oh
[00:10] <JontheEchidna> I forgot to rename the orig.tar.gz with the -kde4-ness
[00:11] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent kdeutils
[00:12]  * JontheEchidna misses Firefox 3's awesomebar :(
[00:13] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: how're things going with the Soyuz people and the ppa loop of death?
[00:14] <JontheEchidna> btw, 2 sleepless nights can't be healthy
[00:49] <JontheEchidna> wut
[00:49] <JontheEchidna> I made sure konq-plugins buitl...
[00:49] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: loop is waiting for fix
[00:49]  * JontheEchidna ballmers out and throws a chair
[00:50] <JontheEchidna> Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to have these debs I am currently using
[00:59] <JontheEchidna> hmm, fails here too
[00:59]  * JontheEchidna wonders how the heck he was able to build it
[01:18] <apachelogger> oioi
[01:22] <vorian> werd
[01:22] <vorian> ok, settling in behind my keyboard
[01:23] <vorian> apachelogger: can I get away with patching that desktop file?
[01:24] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: lolol, forgot to change it to Hardy in the changelog
[01:25] <JontheEchidna> (konq-plugins)
[01:25] <JontheEchidna> today's just not my day I guess
[01:26]  * vorian hands JontheEchidna some redbull
[01:29] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent ppa4
[01:34] <JontheEchidna> Heh, a package has been pending on amd64 for 2 hours
[01:39] <JontheEchidna> A suggestion on the website:
[01:39] <JontheEchidna> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[01:39] <JontheEchidna> I'd make the box long enough so it doesn't need a scrollbar
[01:39] <JontheEchidna> I almost missed the alternate CD checkbox
[01:40] <JontheEchidna> ryanakca: ^
[01:47] <vorian> JontheEchidna: ok, going to start on koffice2 again
[01:48] <JontheEchidna> cool
[01:48] <vorian> had to work on a few odd's n in's
[01:49] <vorian> JontheEchidna: do you have a list of plasmoids that need to be packaged?
[01:49] <JontheEchidna> hrm
[01:49] <vorian> i need one for my menteee
[01:50] <JontheEchidna> there are a few that I didn't do
[01:50] <JontheEchidna> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Qalculate?content=84618
[01:50] <JontheEchidna> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Tea+Cooker?content=85564\
[01:50] <JontheEchidna> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Tea+Cooker?content=85564
[01:50] <vorian> excellent
[01:50] <JontheEchidna> oops @ backslash
[01:51] <JontheEchidna> oh, and this: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Simple+monitor?content=84933
[01:52]  * Daskreech wants Dali clock plasmoids for KDE 4 :)
[01:55] <ryanakca> JontheEchidna: do you have js enabled?
[01:55] <JontheEchidna> ryanakca: yup
[01:55] <JontheEchidna> Konqueror 4.0.98, if you'd like to know
[01:55] <ryanakca> JontheEchidna: what browser?
[01:55] <JontheEchidna> heh
[01:55] <ryanakca> ah, ok, thanks
[01:59] <ryanakca> JontheEchidna: I'll debug it with Matt Newzum (our download page is an iframe since we can't have any PHP blurbs on our site, it's an iframe pointing to a page on ubuntu.com)
[02:02] <ryanakca> JontheEchidna: could you file a bug under the kubuntu-website project on LP please? :)
[02:07] <JontheEchidna> ryanakca: I'll keep it in mind
[02:07]  * JontheEchidna has to go for a bit
[02:08] <ryanakca> JontheEchidna: enjoy :)
[02:47] <jtechidna> Heh: http://ezapmagic.com/macpclinuxbsd_realtruth.jpg
[02:48] <jtechidna> ryanakca: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+filebug
[02:48] <jtechidna> It says the website doesn't use LP for bugs
[02:49] <Daskreech> jtechidna: I want the first car!!!
[02:49] <jtechidna> :P
[02:50] <ryanakca> jtechidna: *grumble*
[02:52] <ryanakca> jtechidna: I'll get it sorted out, thanks ;)
[02:52] <jtechidna> ;)
[03:05] <JontheEchidna> vorian: If koffice2 FTBFS just pastebin it somewhere and poke me, and I'll look at it tomorrow
[03:12] <vorian> roger
[07:25] <\sh> apachelogger: now
[08:24] <Arby> morning
[09:48] <Riddell> morning Arby
[09:51] <raphink> hello Riddell
[09:56] <Riddell> salut raphink
[09:59] <raphink> ça va Riddell?
[10:13] <Wubbbi> jtechidna: why do you changed your name?
[10:13] <Wubbbi> *did
[10:50] <\sh> apachelogger: now I'm following you...
[10:51] <\sh> apachelogger: the changes to pykde4 are again not in the package...the link to pykdeuic4 is missing
[11:04] <Riddell> raphink: oh oui, ca va, et toi?
[11:04] <raphink> bien merci :)
[11:04] <raphink> hi \sh
[11:05] <raphink> thanks for the linkedin note
[11:06] <\sh> raphink: welcome :)
[11:07] <raphink> \sh thanks ;)
[11:07] <raphink> are you going to the FAI conf this year \sh ?
[11:08] <\sh> raphink: nope...I'm really packed with a lot of work @company, and I have a lot to do for Leonov...but I'm going to FrOSCon in St. Augustin, near cologne/bonn in august...
[11:08] <raphink> nice
[11:09] <raphink> :)
[11:10] <\sh> raphink: but I have a FAI integration on my IT backlog @company :) so I think that I need to go to the next FAI dev meeting next year or so :)
[11:10] <raphink> hehe ok
[11:10] <\sh> raphink: are you going?
[11:10] <raphink> no
[11:10] <raphink> not this year
[11:10] <raphink> I'm not much on FAI lately anyway
[11:11] <raphink> I've spent more time on augeas lately
[11:11] <raphink> :)
[11:12] <\sh> raphink: hehe...but if you are in the area of strassbourgh , just give me a call, we can meet up...I'm just 1 hour away from this nice city :)
[11:12] <raphink> well not really, I'm on the Riviera
[11:13] <raphink> I'm more likely to go to Italy than Germany ;)
[11:14] <\sh> raphink: ok...I need to find time to leave home for some holidays near the italian or french riviera :)
[11:14] <raphink> hehe
[11:14] <raphink> :)
[11:14] <raphink> call me if you're around ;)
[11:14] <\sh> oh crap...I forgot to upload ia32-libs
[11:14]  * \sh needs to deal with it this evening...
[11:15] <raphink> good luck ;)
[11:32] <apachelogger> \sh: I really don't think company should be an instance variable in this case :P
[11:49] <apachelogger> \sh: maybe we can get decent kdebindings for 4.1.0
[11:49] <apachelogger> otherwise it's only 6 months to 4.2.0 ;-)
[12:39] <\sh> apachelogger: the problem with this bug is, that's essential for devs to use pykde4...
[12:39] <\sh> apachelogger: as long we have the fixes in our debian/rules dir and in debian/patches...just apply them..
[12:39]  * apachelogger didn't do the backport
[12:39] <\sh> apachelogger: I'll write a mail to sime and ask him what he can do about that...
[12:40] <apachelogger> \sh: tagging is today, so not much for 4.1.0
[12:40] <apachelogger> I am building a snapshot right now
[12:41] <apachelogger> huh
[12:41] <apachelogger> kubuntu_01_pykde4_dl_fix.diff
[12:41] <apachelogger> got applied
[12:41] <\sh> apachelogger: please add our changes ,-)
[12:41] <apachelogger> \o/
[12:56]  * smarter waves
[12:57]  * Wubbbi waves back
[12:58]  * Wubbbi want to fix some bugs, but he cant :/
[13:00] <nixternal> mornin
[13:03] <JontheEchidna> Wow, looks like my computer couldn't stay connected last night
[13:03] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: do you nerver shutdown you computer? oO
[13:04] <JontheEchidna> not unless I have to
[13:05] <Wubbbi> hmm. I always go in Standby ... that better for my Video-Card :D
[13:05] <Wubbbi> and my energy bill xD
[13:09] <JontheEchidna> It changed nanmes when I disconnect and reconnect before my ghost pings out
[13:29]  * apachelogger patches kdebindings to heaven
[13:29] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: btw, apparently you dropped one of \sh's precious kdebindings fixes
[13:29] <apachelogger> [11:51:38] <\sh> apachelogger: the changes to pykde4 are again not in the package...the link to pykdeuic4 is missing
[13:30] <apachelogger> the .links file I would say
[13:40] <JontheEchidna> I just saw the bug report
[13:40] <JontheEchidna> but /me has to go for a bit
[13:43] <JontheEchidna> Oh, also I think I got a dependency wrong
[13:43]  * JontheEchidna is back
[13:44]  * Wubbbi waves
[13:44] <JontheEchidna> libsmokeqt2 instead of libsmokeqt4-2
[13:48] <Riddell> libsmoke compiles?
[13:49] <JontheEchidna> It was in the dependencies of kdebindings-kde4 in INtrepid
[13:49] <JontheEchidna> though it seems commented out at the same time...
[13:51] <Riddell> yeah it doesn't compile currently
[13:52] <Riddell> "apachelogger patches kdebindings to heaven" suggests harald is working on it
[13:52] <JontheEchidna> Heh
[13:52] <JontheEchidna> Well I'll have to fix the depends in the KDE4 ppa anyway
[13:53] <apachelogger> Xand3r: hey, what's the status of digikam?
[13:54] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i had no toime up to now, sorry, the week end i wasnt at home and the rest of the ttime i learnd for the "teorie prüfung" for my driving license
[13:54] <Xand3r> sorry man
[13:56] <JontheEchidna> BTW, 4.1 final gets tagged today. ^_^
[13:57] <Riddell> qt 4.4.1 out as well I expect
[13:57] <Riddell> I'd be happy if we could get livefs images that actually built
[13:58] <JontheEchidna> Hopefully that will fix some of the more annoying bugs
[13:58] <JontheEchidna> like scrolling up on things like konsole and add widgets
[13:58]  * JontheEchidna thinks that was a Qt bug
[14:00] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: what is the issue there?
[14:00] <JontheEchidna> When you scroll back up through either of those you get a crapload of artifacts
[14:01] <JontheEchidna> generally the bottom gets repainted with stuff from the top
[14:01] <JontheEchidna> to reproduce: open "Add Widgets"
[14:01] <JontheEchidna> scroll all the way down
[14:01] <JontheEchidna> then scroll back up using the scrollbar
[14:02] <JontheEchidna> huh, it's working now...
[14:02] <apachelogger> well
[14:02] <apachelogger> last time I checked it was said that this is a driver/X11 issue rather than Qt/Oxygen
[14:02] <JontheEchidna> oh
[14:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think I got smoke compiling again
[14:03] <JontheEchidna> only happens with composite on
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: should I send over the new kde4bindings~hardy1 with fixed deps or wait for patch goodness?
[14:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I dunno whether the patch goodness will work for rc1 ;-)
[14:08] <JontheEchidna> heh
[14:08] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: make sure pykde is working again and send it over
[14:08] <JontheEchidna> ok
[14:11] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i working now on digikam, sorry for delay, it will take some time cause the build log is lost and now i have to rebuild it
[14:11] <JontheEchidna> vorian: so, did koffice2 build? :D
[14:12] <Riddell> apachelogger: ooh?!
[14:12] <apachelogger> Xand3r: not having time isn't a a crime ... or maybe it is ;-)
[14:13] <apachelogger> Xand3r: just make sure you inform someone
[14:13] <apachelogger> then we can redistribute the work
[14:13] <Xand3r> apachelogger: sorry
[14:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: the qtuitools target_link_libraries uses a wrong order of libs apparently
[14:14] <apachelogger> preparing the package for 4.1.0 now
[14:19]  * JontheEchidna doesn't see 4.1.0 in the stable dir @ kde ftp
[14:20] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: tagging is today
[14:20] <apachelogger> actually, you said that yesterday :P
[14:21] <JontheEchidna> so how can you prepare the packaging if it's not out yet?
[14:21] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I got myself an svn snapshot
[14:21] <JontheEchidna> aaah, smart
[14:22] <apachelogger> could it actually be 'a svn'?
[14:22] <apachelogger> one could read that 'a subversion snapshot'
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> heh
[14:22] <apachelogger> but also 'an ES VE EN snapshot'
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> a snapshot of the current KDE svn repository
[14:23] <apachelogger> hm
[14:23] <apachelogger> doesn't that mean I have a snapshot of the complete repository?
[14:23] <Nightrose> *from the
[14:23] <Nightrose> ?
[14:23] <apachelogger> well
[14:23] <apachelogger> that could mean the svn repo generated the snapshot ;-)
[14:24] <Nightrose> hehe
[14:25] <JontheEchidna> screw english :P
[14:27]  * Wubbbi is going back to Reallive :/ I have Fear :(
[15:01] <Riddell> well, kde4.mk added to cdbs but cdbs won't compile because it has a dependency in universe so yet another MIR we're waiting on
[15:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: can we replace kdebindings with kde4bindings?
[15:03] <Riddell> apachelogger: you mean rename it back to kdebindings?
[15:03] <apachelogger> yes
[15:04] <Riddell> apachelogger: I'd rather stick with what debian calls it, which is kde4bindings
[15:04] <Riddell> also apt-cache rdepends python-kde3 isn't empty
[15:04] <apachelogger> well, at least for rubyqt one can't install the kde3 and kde4 version anyway
[15:05] <apachelogger> dpkg: error processing libqt4-ruby1.8_4.0.98+svn835791-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install):
[15:05] <apachelogger>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/rbqtapi', which is also in package libqt0-ruby1.8
[15:21] <smarter> apachelogger: "bzcat ../somesoftware-$${version}.tar.bz2 | gzip -9fn -c - > \"
[15:21] <smarter> apachelogger: you should have checked the debian/rules before uploading amarok-kde4 :P
[15:22] <apachelogger> very true
[15:22] <apachelogger> but it works nonetheless :P
[15:23] <smarter> I'm packaging it for medibuntu(mp4 support added)
[15:23] <apachelogger> so
[15:23] <Riddell> a second amarok-kde4 package?
[15:24] <apachelogger> why does the offical package not have mp4?
[15:24] <smarter> patents stuff
[15:24] <apachelogger> we have that lib for reading in the repo, don't we?
[15:24] <smarter> you can enable it by adding libmp4v2-dev to the build-deps
[15:24] <Riddell> isn't that a xine/gstreamer issue?
[15:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: playback works
[15:24] <apachelogger> but tag reading doesn't
[15:24] <smarter> yep
[15:25] <Riddell> isn't that a taglib issue?
[15:25] <apachelogger> taglib doesn't have a mp4 plugin IIRC
[15:25] <smarter> it works with *some* mp4/aac/m4a/whatever, but mpeg4  has tons of audio codecs
[15:25] <apachelogger> that's why amarok ships one
[15:26] <Wubbbi> Is it Possible to set this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/New+sysinfo+1.0?content=85668 Sysinfo as the default in Kubuntu? Its much better :)
[15:26] <apachelogger> Filename: pool/multiverse/m/mpeg4ip/libmp4v2-dev_1.6dfsg-0.2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[15:26] <smarter> mmh, multiverse
[15:26] <apachelogger> Riddell: we could create a amarok-pluign-mp4 package and move that to multiverse, right?
[15:27] <Riddell> yep
[15:27] <smarter> then we would need to orig.tar.gz
[15:27] <smarter> s/to/two
[15:27] <apachelogger> smarter: why?
[15:27] <apachelogger> binaries can be sorted seperatly
[15:28] <apachelogger> so amarok goes main, amarok-plugin-mp4 goes multiverse amarok-service-mp3tunes goes universe
[15:28] <smarter> that would be cool
[15:28] <smarter> and same for amarok2
[15:28] <Riddell> amarok can't build-dep on something in multiverse
[15:28] <apachelogger> oh
[15:29] <apachelogger> hm
[15:29] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: but than add amarok-plugin-mp4 to "Kubuntu restriced extras" ;)
[15:29] <smarter> amarok source in multiverse, amarok binary in  main, and amarok-stuff in universe/multiverse?
[15:29] <apachelogger> we could strip the taglib pluign and make it a seperate source package
[15:29] <smarter> or provide an easy way to install Medibuntu :)
[15:30] <apachelogger> IMO medibuntu is a workaround
[15:30]  * apachelogger hates workarounds
[15:30] <smarter> but the only easy way to have DVD support
[15:31] <apachelogger> smarter: the only easy way to have DVD support is to sue
[15:31] <smarter> :p
[15:31] <apachelogger> then again the definition of justice is a quite strange one in the USA
[15:31] <Wubbbi> yes ... just because of the USA. They have licents Problems -.-
[15:31] <apachelogger> so that would suggest one of us become president of the USA
[15:31] <smarter> libdvdcss is illegal in France too, since 1 year
[15:31] <Wubbbi> Can me make a Eurobuntu and USAbuntu? ^^
[15:32] <Wubbbi> joke :P
[15:32] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: is it illegal in germany?
[15:32] <smarter> or we could find a desert island and create ubuntuland (:
[15:32] <Wubbbi> Well what ever i use it ^^
[15:32] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: it is in most of europe
[15:32] <apachelogger> libdvdcss is technically breaking an encryption
[15:32] <apachelogger> and that is usually quite illegal
[15:33] <Riddell> EU Copyright directive saw to that :(
[15:33] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: but thats the only way to watch ( most ) Dvds ... And when i buy a DVD I want to watch it!
[15:33] <apachelogger> well
[15:33] <Wubbbi> Thats crazy
[15:33] <apachelogger> you don't _have to_
[15:33] <Wubbbi> -.-
[15:33] <smarter> Wubbi: there's a proprietary linux dvd player which is not illegal: lindvd, but it sucks
[15:34] <apachelogger> that is like you go to a super expensive restaurant and complain that you have to wear a suite
[15:34] <Wubbbi> smarter: tztztz -.- THE EU is doing some disable things, but they dont fix that problem -.-
[15:35] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: yes but why is this Technology default? Its unfair to Linux! -.-
[15:36] <Riddell> welcome to the world of international freedom fighters
[15:36] <Wubbbi> Riddell: ACK!
[15:36] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: because it became default
[15:36] <apachelogger> none foces you to buy a DVD just like none forces you to buy a blueray :P
[15:37] <apachelogger> that is the essential part of free markets
[15:37] <Riddell> dvdcss is quite the opposite of free markets, it's deliberately restricting the free market
[15:37] <apachelogger> you don't need to buy one specifc produc, but if everyone does and makes that product monopoly-like rule the market they define the rules not the consumer
[15:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, a free money-driven market ;-)
[15:38] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: yes but when I love the Film of the DVD I will buy THIS DVD and not something else ;)
[15:39] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: you want to play Age of Empires - you buy the PC version - buy a PC with Windows - use Windows
[15:39] <apachelogger> everything ends up in supporting a certain market share ;-)
[15:40] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: And Windows is the winner ;) xD
[15:42] <Wubbbi> I have played Age of Empires 2 for a long time ... but on a Linux PC :P ( Wine we love you :D )
[15:44] <apachelogger> well, bill gets some of the money from windows, gives it to his foundation, which is buying more drugs, causing shortage of those, therefore the pharmaceutical industry raises the prices, making it more difficult for you to buy your monthly HIV drugs and therefore you can't buy AoE4, so you don't need a new pc, no new windows, MS doesn't get any money, neither does Bill, neither does his foundation....
[15:44] <apachelogger> economy is the most insane thing ever ;-)
[15:45] <Wubbbi> Yes but doesn't I buy the licens by buying the dvd?
[15:45] <apachelogger> nope
[15:46] <apachelogger> the dvd doesn't decrypt itself
[15:46] <apachelogger> the dvd player does
[15:46] <apachelogger> thus the produce of the player needs to buy the license
[15:47] <Wubbbi> strange xD
[15:47] <apachelogger> hm
[15:47] <apachelogger> actually
[15:47] <Wubbbi> I have to pay for a Tecnology that i dont want to have :/
[15:48] <apachelogger> I think you buy the license
[15:48] <apachelogger> the dvd producer needed to encrypt the content
[15:49] <apachelogger> the process of encryption is probably patented ... so ;-)
[15:49] <apachelogger> and actually the encryption itself should be patented as well
[15:49] <Wubbbi> I hate patents -.-
[15:49] <apachelogger> so you buy a DVD and get at least for patent licenses I guess
[15:49] <apachelogger> four
[15:50] <apachelogger> the dvd cover, the dvd itself, the dvd encryption process and the dvd encryption itself
[15:50] <Riddell> buying the DVD video doesn't give you a licence for anything
[15:50] <apachelogger> well, indirectly
[15:50] <Riddell> the decryption licence comes with the DVD player
[15:50] <Riddell> and it's the existance of decryption tools that's the issue, not the decrypting itself I think
[15:50] <Wubbbi> Riddell: but on Windows, I can play these dvd Out of the Box. And windows is not realy a dvd player ^^
[15:51] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: you can't
[15:51] <apachelogger> install a plain windows
[15:51] <apachelogger> you won't be able to play DVD videos
[15:51] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: OMG -.- WTF ^^
[15:51] <Riddell> windows media player comes with a decss licence
[15:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: didn't in XP
[15:52] <Riddell> right
[15:52] <Riddell> the main requirement to get a decss licence isn't money as I understand it but ensuring you restrict what can be done with the video (i.e can't copy it in any way)
[15:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: bindings is in pretty good shape, I just need to package some mono files
[15:53]  * apachelogger heads off for some coffee
[15:56] <jtechidna> w00t, plasmoid-quickaccess got published
[15:57] <Riddell> jtechidna: not yet, it's now in binary new
[15:57] <jtechidna> hmm, well it's almost there anyway :P
[16:00] <jtechidna> ltonbrettalton
[16:00] <jtechidna>  13 hr 29 min ago
[16:00] <jtechidna> Make your default font 'sans-serif' no 'serif'. 'serif' is the default for all Firefox installations.
[16:00] <jtechidna> blah
[16:00]  * jtechidna though kate had focus
[16:00]  * jtechidna wonders why crap has been pasting in konversation when other apps have focus
[16:01]  * jtechidna wonders if the digg comment system looks like crap with webkitkde
[16:01] <Riddell> it's so we can keep an eye on what you're doing :)
[16:03] <jtechidna> :P
[16:03] <Nightrose> apachelogger: do you have time to proofread the announcement?
[16:04] <Riddell> jtechidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29331/
[16:04] <Riddell> andsong needs space
[16:04] <Riddell> also lines 6 and 7 have an extra space at the start
[16:05] <Riddell> jtechidna: shall I reject and let you fix that?
[16:05] <jtechidna> sure
[16:06] <Riddell> also who on earth thought am4rok was a good name?!
[16:08] <Wubbbi> Riddell: I dont think so. It's hard to search for amarok in Apedt ... because the habe has a number
[16:10] <JontheEchidna> Upstream still thinks amarok is spelled amaroK
[16:10] <JontheEchidna> :/
[16:10] <\sh> Nightrose: please book the expenses for gas as "thanks to kde e.v." :)
[16:12] <jpds> Riddell: Are you doing backport requests today?
[16:13] <Riddell> jpds: I don't think I'll have time
[16:13] <Riddell> jpds: anything paticularly pressing?
[16:13] <jpds> Riddell: Just an irssi-plugin-otr backport.
[16:13] <Riddell> jpds: bug num?
[16:14] <jpds> bug #250735
[16:14] <Nightrose> \sh: ? ;-)
[16:14] <Nightrose> \sh: this stuff is paid from amarok funds - not by kde eV
[16:18] <devfil> hi to all
[16:20] <devfil> JontheEchidna: how proceed your work on koffice2? Are you working to update it to alpha9?
[16:20] <JontheEchidna> Yep
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> vorian's testbuilding since it would take half a day to compile on my computer
[16:21] <devfil> JontheEchidna: why you don't use ppa to testbuild?
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> hmm, good point
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> oh
[16:22] <JontheEchidna> because the tarball in 87 MB
[16:22] <JontheEchidna> which would take me forever to upload wiht my connection
[16:22] <devfil> ok
[16:23] <Riddell> maybe devfil has a better connection?
[16:23] <devfil> you are doing only testbuild or also the really upload?
[16:23] <devfil> Riddell: to upload 90 MB I think my connection will take an hour
[16:23] <JontheEchidna> I'm not an motu so I can't upload it to universe
[16:24] <Riddell> unfortunately that's just the nature of koffice, it's big and takes ages to do
[16:24] <Riddell> (it's still a fraction of openoffice)
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> heh
[16:24] <devfil> JontheEchidna: I'm not a MOTU too
[16:24]  * JontheEchidna thinks he misunderstood your question
[16:26] <Riddell> it needs test built, either in PPA or locally?
[16:26] <Riddell> then uploaded to ubuntu
[16:27] <JontheEchidna> right, we just need to make sure it doesn't FTBFS with a wrong file install location
[16:27] <JontheEchidna> otherwise the packaging should be good
[16:27] <Riddell> vorian doesn't seem to be around so if devfil wants to do either of those maybe JontheEchidna can send the current packaging his way to do it
[16:28] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, I can send the current packaging over
[16:28] <devfil> Riddell: I've take a look at it and the merge/upload seems really simple to do
[16:29] <devfil> but I didn't test if dh_install fails or not
[16:30] <JontheEchidna> my package fixes the FTBFS that 1.9.96.8 had and provides a debug package
[16:30] <JontheEchidna> + has new upstream 1.9.96.9
[16:30] <Riddell> devfil: so want to take JontheEchidna's packaging and see if it compiles?
[16:30] <JontheEchidna> that's basically what I've done
[16:31] <devfil> JontheEchidna: have you also included debian changes?
[16:31] <JontheEchidna> nope, I haven't merged
[16:32] <devfil> JontheEchidna: the only debian change is
[16:33] <devfil>  * Remove build depend on libpqxx-dev and postgresql support for kexi
[16:33] <devfil>      temporarily.
[16:33] <devfil> so maybe shouldn't be included
[16:33] <devfil> ok all good
[16:33] <Riddell> I'm going out for a bit, fell free to sort it out amongst yourselves :)
[16:35] <JontheEchidna> devfil: so what's your email?
[16:35] <JontheEchidna> devfil at ubuntu.com?
[16:37] <devfil> JontheEchidna: send it at devidfil@gmail.com
[16:44] <devfil> JontheEchidna: have you update the install files for the new version?
[16:44] <JontheEchidna> yes
[16:44] <devfil> really good
[16:44] <JontheEchidna> well some of them
[16:44]  * JontheEchidna isn't sure if he got all of it
[16:44] <JontheEchidna> probably want to check to make sure I didn't miss any
[16:45] <nixternal> !nixternal
[16:46] <nixternal> !nixternal > nixternal
[16:46] <JontheEchidna> lol
[16:46] <nixternal> testing my script from outside my home network
[16:46] <JontheEchidna> what's the pointy-clicky thing about?
[16:46] <nixternal> nothing to see here, move along
[16:46] <nixternal> ask Hobbsee, she made that up about a year ago
[16:46] <JontheEchidna> heh
[16:47] <jpds> !-nixternal
[16:48] <devfil> JontheEchidna: remember in your changelog to use LP: #248829 instead of LP: # 248829
[16:49] <JontheEchidna> oops
[16:50] <Jucato> !nixternal
[16:51] <Jucato> hm.. first thing I've said in here in a looong time, and it has to be !nixternal :)
[16:53] <devfil> JontheEchidna: also maybe you wold to fix all dpkg-source: warning: file debian/kword-kde4.lintian has no final newline (either original or modified version) and lintian warnings/errors...
[16:53] <JontheEchidna> ok
[16:53] <devfil> I'm uploading the package to PPA
[17:28] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: doesn't work with the link file
[17:28] <JontheEchidna> bash: /usr/bin/pykdeuic4: Permission denied
[17:31] <devfil> JontheEchidna: koffice2 uploaded to PPA
[17:31] <JontheEchidna> devfil: what's your LP name?
[17:31] <devfil> d.filoni
[17:32] <JontheEchidna> thx
[17:36] <devfil> JontheEchidna: what is koffice-kde4-dbg?
[17:36] <devfil> in the control file is only a dep
[17:38] <JontheEchidna> devfil: oops, guess I never finished that
[17:39] <devfil> JontheEchidna: I think that koffice-dbg should be renamed koffice-dbg-kde4
[17:40] <devfil> JontheEchidna:  there is already a koffice-dbg package (in koffice source)
[17:40] <JontheEchidna> Oh yeah, i guess koffice2 can't replace koffice yet since it's still alpha...
[17:41] <JontheEchidna> So um, how exactly do you make a dbg package?
[17:41] <devfil> JontheEchidna: this is why there is a koffice source and a koffice2 source in ubuntu
[17:51] <Nightrose> Xand3r: ping
[17:51] <Xand3r> Nightrose: whats up?
[17:52] <Nightrose> Xand3r: how do i start screenie?
[17:52]  * Nightrose just installed it and can't find it it seems
[17:52] <Xand3r> its in th kmenu
[17:52] <Nightrose> hmmm not there
[17:52] <Nightrose> let me double check
[17:53] <JontheEchidna> Nightrose: running kde4?
[17:53] <Xand3r> Nightrose: you installed screenie-qt
[17:54] <Nightrose> Xand3r: narf - I installed some screen wrapper...
[17:54] <Nightrose> what is the correct package name?
[17:54] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: yea
[17:54] <Xand3r> Nightrose: screenie-qt
[17:54] <JontheEchidna> k, just thought you might need to run kbuildsycoca4
[17:54] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: you will have to chmod +x in debian/rules
[17:55] <apachelogger> Nightrose: now I do
[17:55] <Xand3r> Nightrose: using intrepid?
[17:55] <Nightrose> apachelogger: still want to check? it is mostly done
[17:55] <Nightrose> Xand3r: hardy
[17:55] <Nightrose> apachelogger: or rather it is done - i just need to put it on ako
[17:55] <Xand3r> Nightrose: thats the problem it is not in the backports
[17:55] <Nightrose> i thought it was :(
[17:55] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ^
[17:55] <apachelogger> Nightrose: if it makes sense
[17:56] <apachelogger> Xand3r: why is it not in backports yet?
[17:56] <Xand3r> apachelogger: no admin was interested in i think
[17:56] <apachelogger> Xand3r: bug no?
[17:57] <apachelogger> today is Riddell's archive admin day
[17:57] <Nightrose> apachelogger: invited
[17:57] <Xand3r> it is tuesday? ah cool
[17:58] <Nightrose> apachelogger: please tell me if you edit something so i can change it on ako as well if needed
[17:58] <apachelogger> aye
[17:58] <Xand3r> Riddell: hi , could you do me a favor? pleas aply screenie-qt for the hardy backport, thanks
[18:14] <Xand3r> apachelogger: in intrepid shuld it be /usr/share/kde4/apps/digikam/ or /usr/share/kde/apps/digikam/ or /usr/share/apps/digikam/
[18:15] <apachelogger> Xand3r: depends on the content ;-)
[18:15] <apachelogger> Xand3r: why do you bother with that at all?
[18:18] <Xand3r> apachelogger: nevermind i have thought too complicated
[18:18] <apachelogger> I thought so ;-)
[18:19] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: great success with kdebindings now
[18:19] <apachelogger> \o/
[18:20] <JontheEchidna> btw, should I comment out the depends on the binary packages that don't build for kdebindings-kde4?
[18:20] <Sime> is everything in order w.r.t. kdebindings 4.1?
[18:20] <JontheEchidna> Sime: I'm working on it
[18:21] <apachelogger> Sime: share/kde4/apps/pykde4/pykdeuic4.py should probably go to bin/pykdeuic4
[18:22] <Sime> symlink from bin/pykdeuic4 to share/kde4/apps/pykde4/pykdeuic4.py
[18:22] <Sime> that is what I wanted/expected
[18:22] <Sime> or is that a problem?
[18:22] <apachelogger> nope
[18:22] <apachelogger> Sime: did you document that somewhere?
[18:22]  * apachelogger didn't read about it ;-)
[18:23] <Sime> doesn't cmake do that already?
[18:24] <Sime> oh, it doesn't
[18:25] <Sime> ok, that is left as an exercise for the packager.
[18:25]  * smarter just fixed a really old bug in Adept Installer \o/
[18:25] <apachelogger> Sime: something for 4.1.1 maybe?
[18:25] <Sime> looks like it
[18:26] <Sime> still, a lot of packagers have different ideas about where things should be installed.
[18:26] <smarter> hey jpds
[18:27] <Guest44515> sec.
[18:28] <apachelogger> Sime: don't care too much about that, a source installation should work perfect and follow the KDE guidelines
[18:28] <jpds> hey smarter
[18:28] <apachelogger> everything else is distro specific insanity ;-)
[18:28] <DaskrEEch> How is Adept-kde4 ?
[18:29] <smarter> jpds: how is it going?
[18:30] <jpds> smarter: Hot, but not too bad.
[18:31] <smarter> bbl
[18:36] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i think i have fixed th eproblem with digikam
[18:36] <Xand3r> now testbuilding it
[18:36] <Xand3r> zhis willl take sometime
[18:39]  * apachelogger headdesks because of kalyptus
[18:40] <apachelogger> Nightrose: you are in delay :P
[18:40] <Nightrose> apachelogger: released - i am sending mails now
[18:40] <Nightrose> apachelogger: you can copy
[18:40]  * apachelogger copies the package
[18:46] <JontheEchidna> woo! kde4bindings ppa2 is ready
[18:49] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent kde4bindings ppa2
[18:49] <JontheEchidna> now with improved bind-iness
[18:52] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: you should get yourself some webspace to upload to
[18:52] <apachelogger> composing the package from a mail is way more work than dgetting it ;-)
[18:52] <JontheEchidna> lol
[18:53] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: you sent the wrong diff.gz of kdeutils
[18:53] <apachelogger> kdeutils_4.0.98-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[18:54] <JontheEchidna> d'oh
[18:54] <JontheEchidna> So how would you recommend getting webspace?
[18:54] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[18:54] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: you could ask \sh ;-)
[18:55] <JontheEchidna> Is he one of those guys that has a 2TB raid setup in his basement?
[18:55] <apachelogger> >2TB I think :P
[18:56] <JontheEchidna> heh
[18:56] <apachelogger> well, at least he probably knows where to get some space
[18:56] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: plugins ppa4 uploading
[18:56] <JontheEchidna> coolness
[18:57] <JontheEchidna> you might also consider deleting the plugins packages that were set for Intrepid
[18:57] <JontheEchidna> to avoid confusion
[18:58] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ubuntu1~hardy < ubuntu1
[18:58] <apachelogger> so people with hardy get the ones from the archive anyway
[18:58] <JontheEchidna> aaah, right
[18:58] <apachelogger> ehh
[18:58] <apachelogger> with intrepid
[18:58] <JontheEchidna> intrepid > hardy :P
[18:59] <apachelogger> that too
[19:01] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: kde4bindings (4:4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2) intrepid; urgency=low
[19:01]  * JontheEchidna sighs
[19:02] <JontheEchidna> I wish dch -i didn't do that
[19:02] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: you should write a checklist :P
[19:02] <JontheEchidna> I should
[19:02] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: W: kde4bindings source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff CMakeLists.txt
[19:02] <apachelogger> what is changed there?
[19:02] <JontheEchidna> I didn't do it!
[19:02] <JontheEchidna> <.<
[19:02] <apachelogger> oh
[19:02] <apachelogger> the build prevents
[19:02] <apachelogger> righto
[19:03] <apachelogger> *uploading*
[19:03]  * JontheEchidna doublechecks the hardy-ness of kdeutils
[19:04] <JontheEchidna> heh, good thing I did too
[19:04] <JontheEchidna> -Hardy in changelog? Check!
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> -Contents of .install files changed? Check!
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> -Names of .install files changed to reflect new binary package names? Check!
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> -Binary package names changed in debian/control? Check!
[19:06]  * JontheEchidna thinks that's about it
[19:06] <JontheEchidna> I'll send this as ~ppa2
[19:06] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I didn't upload ppa1 of kdeutils
[19:06] <apachelogger> no need ot make it ppa2
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> oh, ok
[19:07]  * JontheEchidna would do ~ppa9000 for the lulz
[19:07] <apachelogger> mono is way too weird
[19:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: what are .dll.config files used for?
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> We could market it as a rejecting of mono :P
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> *rejection
[19:09] <JontheEchidna> Sometimes I think that the anti-mono zealots take things too far
[19:09]  * JontheEchidna doesn't particularly support mono, though
[19:12] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent
[19:13]  * apachelogger thinks merging the mono stuff from debian svn might be one dangerous thing to do
[19:13] <apachelogger> that looks very WIPish
[19:13] <apachelogger> and considering I have no clue about mono .... ;-)
[19:15] <apachelogger> good new is
[19:15] <apachelogger> bindings is ready for 4.1.0
[19:16] <JontheEchidna> cool
[19:16] <JontheEchidna> vorian: could I have a copy of the latest koffice2 stuff we did?
[19:18] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i am noow away for 2 hours, after it i will upload digikam i think, c ya
[19:18]  * apachelogger waves to Xand3r
[19:18]  * JontheEchidna waves to Xand3r
[19:18] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna, vorian: go use bzr
[19:18] <Xand3r> ^^
[19:18] <JontheEchidna> ...good idea, actually
[19:18]  * Xand3r waves back
[19:19] <JontheEchidna> A collaborative editor would be handy for stuff like this too
[19:19] <DaskrEEch> Kobby!!
[19:19] <JontheEchidna> That's what I was thinking of ;-)
[19:19] <DaskrEEch> I wish he would commit it :(
[19:19] <mhb> DaskrEEch: is there such a thing?
[19:20] <mhb> DaskrEEch: it can't be that hard to code
[19:20] <DaskrEEch> Yes quite a lot of such a thing
[19:20] <JontheEchidna> GSoC project
[19:20] <yuriy> screen+vim -- the poor man's collaborative editor
[19:20] <mhb> hmm, good for the student
[19:20] <DaskrEEch> mhb: Not when you want it to stretch to Koffice and Kdevelop
[19:20] <DaskrEEch> yuriy: skreech ;-)
[19:20] <DaskrEEch> skreen even
[19:20]  * DaskrEEch hits his fingers
[19:21] <yuriy> yay mhb is back
[19:21] <mhb> :o)
[19:21]  * apachelogger thinks koffice should ship with a collaborative editor :P
[19:21] <apachelogger> oh
[19:21] <apachelogger> or kdepim
[19:22] <apachelogger> rooting in kolab
[19:22] <apachelogger> which would support my demand for a kubuntu.org kloab setup :P
[19:22] <JontheEchidna> I think something like Kobby would be useful for tutorial days
[19:22] <JontheEchidna> You could see what the tutor was doing in real time
[19:23] <JontheEchidna> or vice versa
[19:24] <mhb> by the way
[19:24] <mhb> have you solved this one already?
[19:24] <mhb> http://video.aol.com/video-detail/bug-kaffeine-kubuntu-hardy/4251340601
[19:25] <mhb> it really was an example of poor feature testing
[19:25]  * yuriy doesn't look. the infinite loop?
[19:25]  * apachelogger has a very special opinion about kaffeine
[19:25] <yuriy> no
[19:25] <mhb> yes
[19:25]  * mhb has a very special opinion about apachelogger 
[19:25] <mhb> :o)
[19:25] <apachelogger> ^_^
[19:25] <apachelogger> hm, that loop looks like endless fun ;-)
[19:26] <apachelogger> uh, that joke was awful
[19:26]  * apachelogger hides in the bindings cave
[19:26] <mhb> yes, and it was really easy to achieve that loop
[19:29] <mhb> kind of shows that Kubuntu is in decline these days
[19:29] <mhb> at least when it comes to quality
[19:30] <mhb> (my opinion)
[19:31] <DaskrEEch> apachelogger: kdepim?
[19:31] <DaskrEEch> Why would you want to have a collabortive ditor there?
[19:31] <DaskrEEch> so everyone can put in info for a contact?
[19:34] <apachelogger> DaskrEEch: groupware
[19:34] <apachelogger> as a matter of act
[19:34] <apachelogger> the editor might be in kdeutils
[19:34] <apachelogger> but bind ot kdepim
[19:34] <apachelogger> and kdenetwork for instant messaging actually
[19:35] <JontheEchidna> It transcends module-ness
[19:37] <apachelogger> nope
[19:38] <apachelogger> maybe kopete should rather access the editor via kparts rather than the other way round though
[19:38] <JontheEchidna> kparts are cool
[19:38] <apachelogger> so you can run it independent from kopete but also from within kopete
[19:44] <DaskrEEch> apachelogger: Lost again :)
[19:44] <DaskrEEch> collaboration IM messages?
[19:45] <DaskrEEch> so you help me to write the message I'm sending to you?
[19:47] <apachelogger> DaskrEEch: you certainly need some way to communicate when collaborating
[19:48] <DaskrEEch> apachelogger: Oh yes we are looking at having a lightweight chat with decibel for discovery and possibly a standalone heavy weight server for conference etc
[19:49] <DaskrEEch> Still sorting out some things
[19:49] <JontheEchidna>   amarok-kde4: Depends: amarok-kde4-dbg (= 1.83-0ubuntu1~hardy0~ppa5) but 1.86-0ubuntu1~hardy0~ppa1 is installed
[19:49] <JontheEchidna>   amarok-kde4-dbg: Depends: amarok-kde4 (= 1.86-0ubuntu1~hardy0~ppa1) but 1.83-0ubuntu1~hardy0~ppa5 is installed
[19:49] <DaskrEEch> apachelogger: We have a mailing list if you want to follow
[19:50]  * JontheEchidna wonders how that happened
[19:51] <JontheEchidna> Oh
[19:51] <JontheEchidna> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/amarok.1.gz', which is also in package amarok
[19:51] <JontheEchidna> ^that's how
[19:51] <apachelogger> hooray
[20:36] <Nightrose> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/d2d180a50
[20:36] <Nightrose> hehe
[21:08] <apachelogger> DaskrEEch: I am on way too many lists already ;-)
[21:08] <apachelogger> Nightrose: should be fixed in ppa2
[21:08] <Nightrose> apachelogger: thx
[21:45] <DaskrEEch> apachelogger: Preach it
[21:59] <Xand3r> back
[21:59] <Xand3r> sorry
[22:00] <devfil> hi to all
[22:02] <devfil> JontheEchidna: koffice2 fails to build
[22:03] <Xand3r> apachelogger: while i was away pbuilder build digikam
[22:04] <devfil> JontheEchidna: if you want I can try to finish it
[22:05] <Xand3r> i have a question
[22:06] <Xand3r> i want only upload the new debian folder i mean the diff, so that i have not to upload the source again
[22:06] <Xand3r> i choosen for it debuild -S how apachelogger told me, but this command includes the orgi.tar
[22:07] <Xand3r> what i am doin wrong?
[22:08] <devfil> Xand3r: when a MOTU uploads in Ubuntu or you upload in your PPA, if you use debuild -S -sa .orig.tar.gz is included, if you use only debuild -S no
[22:09] <Xand3r> devfil: the orig tar is already in revu
[22:09] <Xand3r> and now i changed something in debian
[22:09] <Xand3r> and i dot want to upload the source again cause it is already there
[22:10] <Xand3r> and i have a small upstream
[22:10] <devfil> Xand3r: if it is a new version I think you must upload it again
[22:10] <Xand3r> devfil: no new version
[22:10] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i need you
[22:11] <devfil> Xand3r: new version in Ubuntu, not in REVU
[22:19] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i upload now digikam, for me an my pbuilder it works all fine
[22:22] <vorian> hello!
[22:22] <hunger> Do I really need mysql server to use mailody-kde4?
[22:23] <hunger> Xand3r: You are my hero! I have all my pics in digikam and it has not been installable for a while!
[22:24] <Xand3r> hunger: only intrepid, and only on revu, some on has to review
[22:24] <hunger> Xand3r: Well, I am running intrepid, so I am fine with it.
[22:25] <Xand3r> kk
[22:25]  * hunger is trying to remove transitional packages. Too bad so much depend on them:-(
[22:27] <hunger> KDE will require cmake 2.6 starting aug. 4th and ubuntu still has no good debs for that:-( (ccmake is missing).
[22:44] <Xand3r> Riddell:hi  did you backport screenie-qt?
[22:50] <Xand3r> apachelogger: why manpages are useles?
[22:53] <Riddell> Xand3r: mm, I think so, look on launchpad
[22:53] <Xand3r> Riddell: thx alot
[22:54] <Riddell> Xand3r: doesn't seem like it is backported, what's the bug number?
[22:56] <Xand3r> Riddell:  #244959
[22:56] <Xand3r> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/244959
[22:59] <Riddell> Xand3r: done!
[22:59] <Xand3r> Riddell: thx your the best
[23:07] <apachelogger> Xand3r: ls *.manpage
[23:07] <apachelogger> notice anything?
[23:10] <Xand3r> apachelogger: dont know what you mean?
[23:13] <Xand3r> there are two, but i have two bins
[23:14] <devfil> Riddell: koffice2 fails to build, it takes 4 hours in ppa, wow
[23:14] <vorian> 4 hours!
[23:14] <vorian> devfil: where did it fail?
[23:14] <apachelogger> hm
[23:14] <apachelogger> Xand3r: maybe it's me being silly
[23:14] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[23:14] <apachelogger> to late to check
[23:14] <devfil> vorian: dh_install, but maybe I know how to fix it
[23:15] <devfil> I need to try
[23:15]  * vorian just gets home with the sole intent of fixing koffice
[23:15] <vorian> devfil: what is you ppa?
[23:15] <devfil> vorian: d.filoni
[23:15] <devfil> vorian: let me fix it, I think it is simple to fix
[23:15] <Xand3r> apachelogger: ?
[23:15] <apachelogger> Xand3r: forget about it
[23:15] <devfil> ;)
[23:16] <Xand3r> i dont know what you want from me
[23:16] <Xand3r> ok
[23:16] <Xand3r> i do
[23:16] <vorian> devfil: that's fine, I just might be able to save you a minute or two
[23:16] <Riddell> devfil: trouble is the only way of knowing if you've really fixed it is to compile it and find out
[23:16] <devfil> Riddell: I'm going to upload the new version that should build
[23:16] <Riddell> devfil: what's your fix?
[23:17] <devfil> Riddell: add libgmm-dev as b-d
[23:17] <vorian> any things else?  :)
[23:17] <devfil> this should fix that error
[23:18] <devfil> if there are others I don't know at the moment
[23:18] <Riddell> I suspect there's more to it than that, koffice usually changes a number of installed files each release, you usually need to spend some time editing .install files
[23:18] <vorian> devfil: it fixes _one_ error
[23:18] <devfil> Riddell: I don't know, but it should fix panorama problem
[23:19] <devfil> + GMM: The Krita Panorama plugin will not be built. <http://home.gna.org/getfem/download.html>
[23:19] <vorian> devfil: what about xbase and openctl?
[23:19] <vorian> (which we need a package package for openctl)
[23:20] <devfil> vorian: usually a firstly fix FTBFSs and after try to enable more feature
[23:20]  * Nightrose hands everyone a beer so they can toast to apachelogger
[23:20] <Nightrose> *hint* birthday *hint*
[23:20] <vorian> it will fail agian with koffice-data
[23:20] <Nightrose> ;-)
[23:20] <vorian> w00t!
[23:20] <vorian> HAPPY BIRTHDAY APACHELOGGER!
[23:21] <DaskrEEch> HAPPY BEERDAY!!
[23:21] <devfil> vorian: and then I will try to fix it, no problem
[23:21] <DaskrEEch> *burp*
[23:21] <devfil> HAPPY BIRTHDAY
[23:21] <vorian> ok then devfil, it's all yours :)
[23:22] <Xand3r> apachelogger:  HAPPY BIRTHDAY
[23:25]  * vorian wheels in the kegg
[23:26] <yuriy> HAPPY BIRTHDAY apachelogger!!
[23:28] <apachelogger> oh, thank you everyone :)
[23:31] <Riddell> hunger, apachelogger: what were the problems with cmake?
[23:31] <Riddell> no ccmake, anything else?
[23:31] <apachelogger> Riddell: cmake-gui doesn't have a package
[23:31] <apachelogger> though that is quite minor compared to ccmake ;-)
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> vorian: it was that panorama ftbfs that we fixed
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> Oh, and happy birthday apachelogger
[23:33] <vorian> JontheEchidna: nod
[23:33] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: thanks
[23:34] <JontheEchidna> vorian: I had just forgotten to make the changes locally before I gave the .dsc and diff.gz to devfil
[23:34] <vorian> JontheEchidna: it's alright, he's determined to fix it
[23:34] <JontheEchidna> heh
[23:35] <vorian> what else is on the docket?
[23:35] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[23:35] <JontheEchidna> -Rest for 4.1 final packaging
[23:35] <JontheEchidna> :P
[23:35] <vorian> haha
[23:35] <vorian> NEVAR!
[23:36] <apachelogger> actually
[23:37] <apachelogger> vorian: you could grab svn snapshots and update the packaging to those ;-)
[23:37] <vorian> apachelogger: I'm just going to patch the desktop for darkroom
[23:37] <JontheEchidna> Oh, kdesdk is still at beta2 for kubuntu-kde--members
[23:37] <vorian> apachelogger: for all, or extragear?
[23:37] <apachelogger> vorian: that name still makes me giggle ;-)
[23:37] <JontheEchidna> though at this point I'd just wait until 4.1 final
[23:37] <vorian> haha
[23:37] <vorian> It's sweet though! did you use it?
[23:37] <apachelogger> vorian: kdelibs would certainly be very god to have first ;-)
[23:38] <vorian> ok apachelogger, I'll work on that tonight
[23:38] <vorian> (after patching the desktop file here...)
[23:40]  * JontheEchidna disappears for a while
[23:41] <apachelogger> vore: darkroom certainly needs an icon
[23:41] <apachelogger> vorian: ^
[23:41] <vorian> yeah
[23:41] <vorian> I'll make one up
[23:41] <vorian> and send it to him :P
[23:42] <vorian> brb
[23:45] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i think i have all done, please check it http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=digikam-kde4
[23:45] <Xand3r> i go now to bed, good night, and have a nice birthday
[23:45] <Riddell> night Xand3r
[23:46] <Xand3r> night Riddell