[03:04] <DurtDiggler> anybody know of any obvious reasons that my mythtv seems as if it's recording my programs, but all the .nuv files are only about 57.3KB in size and the png files are just black
[03:05] <hads> What type of capture card?
[03:05] <hads> Also
[03:05] <DurtDiggler> pvr 250
[03:05] <hads> !logs
[03:05] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/
[03:05] <hads> At a guess, you've got it setup as the wrong type of card in mythtv-setup
[03:06] <DurtDiggler> hm
[03:06] <hads> Recordings from a PVRx50 should be mpg
[03:06] <tgm4883_laptop> yea the pvr 250 shouldn't make .nuv files
[03:06] <DurtDiggler> ohh
[03:06] <DurtDiggler> whats the name of the log I should be checking
[03:07] <hads> the backend one, but I'd guess that's your issue.
[03:07] <tgm4883_laptop> it would be the backend log, but i'd just fix the card type
[03:07] <hads> snap :)
[03:07] <DurtDiggler> right now I only have a backend
[03:07] <DurtDiggler> I should still be able to record and see my recordings thorugh mythweb right?
[03:07] <tgm4883_laptop> it's /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[03:07] <tgm4883_laptop> not if it's not recording
[03:08] <tgm4883_laptop> which i assume it's not
[03:08] <DurtDiggler> well yah
[03:08] <hads> But yes
[03:08] <DurtDiggler> lemme check the card settings
[03:10] <DurtDiggler> what shoudl the card type be
[03:11] <DurtDiggler> for a pvr 250
[03:11] <tgm4883_laptop> err
[03:11] <DurtDiggler> card type should be
[03:11] <tgm4883_laptop> hardware encoder card?
[03:11] <DurtDiggler> *
[03:12] <tgm4883_laptop> I believe it says something to the effect of (PVR-XXX)
[03:12] <hads> Yeah, Hardware MPEG (PVR-x50) or something to that effect.
[03:12] <DurtDiggler> well Im looking through the drop down in the mythtv setup
[03:12] <hads> Yes
[03:12] <DurtDiggler> oh duh
[03:13] <DurtDiggler> yeah I missed that one
[03:13] <hads> :)
[03:13] <SHADOW__X> whats settings need to be used inside xorg to get dvi and tv out in a asus m2npv-vm
[03:13] <DurtDiggler> no wonder this things not working
[03:16] <DurtDiggler> is it true you can run a front end just from a CD?
[03:16] <DurtDiggler> I thought I read that somewhere
[03:16] <SHADOW__X> using mythbuntu
[03:16] <SHADOW__X> yes
[03:17] <DurtDiggler> ohh yeah
[03:17] <DurtDiggler> thats why I didn't see that option
[03:17] <DurtDiggler> I have mythdora
[03:17] <SHADOW__X> :)
[03:18] <DurtDiggler> they werent too big on the web design part of this it seems
[03:18] <SHADOW__X> i feel like it is quite functional
[03:18] <SHADOW__X> :_)
[03:18] <SHADOW__X> :)
[03:18] <hads> I'm sure patches would be welcome.
[03:19] <DurtDiggler> oh yeah it's functional for sure
[03:19] <DurtDiggler> I think I might have to make a really nice skin for this thing
[03:22] <DurtDiggler> would my recordings come out ok if my storage is a cifs mount from my file server
[03:22] <SHADOW__X> should be asong as its auto mounted and speed is good
[03:23] <DurtDiggler> yeah Im figuring my network speed is much faster than the bitrate
[03:24] <tgm4883_laptop> with a PVR 250, as long as you got at least wireless G you should be fine
[03:24] <DurtDiggler> haha wireless
[03:25] <DurtDiggler> is that saying something bad about pvr 250?
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm just giving the minimum specs
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> well
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> the recommended specs
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> since it's SD not HD
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> HD you need to be wired
[03:27] <DurtDiggler> oh well yeah
[03:27] <DurtDiggler> I jsut read a whole lot about the cards and it seemed that most poeple go with the pvr 250
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> whats the 250 have that the 150 doesn't?
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> I have a 150 and a 500
[03:27] <DurtDiggler> yeah I want a 500
[03:27] <hads> Yeah, I'd say the 150 is probably most common.
[03:28] <DurtDiggler> but it's so hard to find
[03:28] <DurtDiggler> oh yeah I think 150 and 250 were pretty close
[03:28] <DurtDiggler> I forgot what was different
[03:28] <hads> They 250 and 150 do the same thing, I think the 150 is newer.
[03:28] <hads> (and still old now)
[03:28] <DurtDiggler> I read that the quality is slightly better with the 250
[03:28] <tgm4883_laptop> iirc they are end of life now
[03:28] <hads> Yup
[03:29] <DurtDiggler> the 500 looked really nice
[03:29] <DurtDiggler> as long as you don't have the samsung tuner I guess
[03:29] <DurtDiggler> type b or something like that
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> honestly i'd prefer if the digital mandate was sooner
[03:30] <DurtDiggler> hah yeah
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> the pvr cards are nice, but once you go digital there is no comparison
[03:32] <DurtDiggler> wahts your opinion on hardware encoding
[03:32] <DurtDiggler> does it really take a lot of cpu without it
[03:32] <tgm4883_laptop> its a must.  Thats why the PVR cards are so popular
[03:32] <DurtDiggler> ah
[03:33] <DurtDiggler> thats what I figured
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> software encoders (besides the higher cpu) have other issues as well
[03:33] <DurtDiggler> I felt like I needed a card that does it's own encoding, but wasnt sure how important it was
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> it's pretty important, although that will confuse people when things are digital
[03:34] <DurtDiggler> probably so much easier with digital
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> well it's not necessary with digital
[03:35] <DurtDiggler> thers no converting though right
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> it comes pre-encoded
[03:35] <hads> You receive it and put it on the disk. That's it.
[03:36] <DurtDiggler> nice thats what I figured
[03:36] <DurtDiggler> less heat less power consumption
[03:39] <DurtDiggler> for some reason after I changed my card type my upcoming recordings page is empty
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> DurtDiggler, did you also do steps 3 and 4?
[03:40] <DurtDiggler> oh oops I didn't follow through it
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> thats probably it
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> it's not connected to the lineup anymore
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> you should only need to do step 4
[03:40] <DurtDiggler> oh wait
[03:40] <DurtDiggler> there was nothing else to do
[03:41] <gndprx> Evening.  I am going through an install from 8.04.1 Live CD.  It goes through the motions to install and then returns to the LiveCD X desktop and never launches a Myth Setup.  Did I miss something?
[03:42] <gndprx> If I remove the CD and reboot, it boots to a terminal login rather than into ubuntu
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> gndprx, let me run through a quick install
[03:45] <gndprx> thx
[03:47] <DurtDiggler> I thought it's supposed to check for duplicates
[03:47] <DurtDiggler> it seems it keeps trying to record the same show over if it shows for a second time
[03:52] <tgm4883_laptop> gndprx, did you boot into the live environment or just the installer?
[03:53] <gndprx> I've tried both ways and both end with the same result
[03:53] <gndprx> If I boot directly to the installer, it installs and then drops me to the live cd desktop
[03:54] <gndprx> if I go through the live environment, it just returns me to the same after the install
[03:55] <gndprx> I just did a sudo startx from the terminal, went to the mythbuntu control center and it won't let me launch mythtv setup
[03:56] <gndprx> interesting.  hardly anything loaded when I launched X.  No network or anything
[03:57] <tgm4883_laptop> did you verify your cd burn?
[03:57] <gndprx> yes
[03:58] <gndprx> actually
[03:58] <gndprx> I verified the iso
[03:58] <gndprx> didn't verify the burn
[03:58] <gndprx> let me do that now
[04:04] <tgm4883_laptop> gndprx, is it the i386 or amd64 disk?
[04:04] <gndprx> i386
[04:04] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:04] <tgm4883_laptop> did that cd check out?
[04:05] <tgm4883_laptop> i just did a virtualbox install here just fine
[04:05] <gndprx> I can run it against the iso and get a hash. How do I check the burn?
[04:05] <gndprx> I'm assuming your talking about md5sum
[04:06] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[04:07] <DurtDiggler> what is supposed to happen when there is a conflict
[04:07] <DurtDiggler> does it not record any of them?
[04:07] <tgm4883_laptop> gndprx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20on%20CD
[04:08] <tgm4883_laptop> DurtDiggler, it will record which ever one has a higher priority
[04:08] <DurtDiggler> oh ok
[04:08] <tgm4883_laptop> DurtDiggler, i'm not sure what happens if they have the same priority
[04:08] <DurtDiggler> it seems I had 2 and they jsut disapeared
[04:11] <gndprx> just waiting for it to finish
[04:12] <gndprx> ran md5sum per that page and it returned nothing.  Just back to a prompt
[04:13] <gndprx> so looks like it's good
[04:13] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[04:13] <tgm4883_laptop> well maybe not
[04:14] <gndprx> should it return any values?
[04:14] <tgm4883_laptop> yea it should return ok
[04:14] <tgm4883_laptop> let me check something
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> heh
[04:18] <tgm4883_laptop> gndprx, boot the live cd, there should be a verify cd on the boot menu
[04:18] <gndprx> k
[04:19] <gndprx> Check CD for Defects - and it's running now
[04:21] <gndprx> Check finished, no errors found
[04:22] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[04:24] <gndprx> Is there a benefit to installing the mythbuntu cd over installing Heron and then putting myth over top of it?
[04:25] <gndprx> I do know that Heron will install
[04:26] <tgm4883_laptop> gndprx, well you wouldn't have the extra gnome stuff installed
[04:26] <tgm4883_laptop> although you could do a number of things
[04:26] <tgm4883_laptop> if you are not worried about the disk space, do it that way
[04:27] <tgm4883_laptop> if you are, then install either xubuntu (since we use the xfce desktop) or install the command line system and apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop
[04:27] <tgm4883_laptop> or you could try the alternate cd
[04:27] <gndprx> What is the alternate cd anyway?
[04:27] <tgm4883_laptop> non live cd install
[04:28] <gndprx> maybe I'll give that a try before I do anything else
[04:28] <tgm4883_laptop> it usually is used to for people who have graphical issues when installing, but may fix your problem
[04:29] <gndprx> setup to download now and I'll give that a try later or tomorrow.  If not, I'll drop back by again
[04:29] <gndprx> thanks for your help so far
[04:30] <gndprx> back tomorrow...thx
[04:34] <doje_> hi, I'm having trouble getting my ATI remote working. I've tried both the kernel and userspace drivers
[04:36] <doje_> it shows up in lsusb and lsmod, but irw gives no output.  what am I missing ?
[04:37] <DurtDiggler> hey it's recording now :)
[04:41] <zabbadapp> doje_: is lirc configured correct?
[04:43] <doje_> zabbadapp: I configured it from the control center.  it's running and the various files look ok from I can tell
[04:46] <zabbadapp> do you have the ati listed when you do "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" .. i don't use an ati (radio controlled, right?) remote, so i'm not sure it should show up there
[04:47] <doje_> zabbadapp: no, it's not listed there
[04:47] <doje_> zabbadapp: I see it in lsusb though
[04:49] <zabbadapp> IF it had been listed there, I would have asked you to check /etc/lirc/hardware.conf to see if the event<number> matched between the two ... but i don't know if lirc work like that for that remote
[04:50] <doje_> zabbadapp: I've had it working with lirc before
[04:51] <cr3ol> Can someone help me with a flash problem? I want to be able to play flash from watchtvsitcoms.com via mythtv. I can watch them via firefox. any ideas?
[04:53] <tgm4883_laptop> cr3ol, you could initiate a download to your mythvideo directory via wget then watch it with mythvideo
[04:53] <tgm4883_laptop> or you could possibly write a parser for mythstream
[04:54] <tgm4883_laptop> thats how i watched the nba vegas summer league games, by wgetting the stream
[04:55] <cr3ol> sounds like I need to get a little dirty. I am fairly noob to this. could you provide an example... I can probably go from there.
[04:56] <tgm4883_laptop> well the way i did it was I used firefox and looked at the page info which showed me the media stream (in this case, it was the one ending in .asx)
[04:56] <tgm4883_laptop> then I just used wget to start grabbing that stream and downloaded it to my mythvideo directory
[04:57] <tgm4883_laptop> then used mythvideo start it and as long as I didn't get ahead of the download I was fine
[04:57] <tgm4883_laptop> A better solution would be to write a parser and not bother with the wget part, but you have to write the code for that ;)
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> actually i take that back
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> i used mimms
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> which is a stream downloader
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> not wget
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry about that
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> this is the command I used from my mythvideo directory
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> mimms http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nba/9929/500_nba-league_pass_phoenix_051201.asx BasketballSat.asx
[04:58] <cr3ol> im looking all this up while you are typing
[04:58] <cr3ol> cool
[04:59] <cr3ol> I try that
[04:59] <tgm4883_laptop> that downloaded to a file called BasketballSat.asx
[04:59] <tgm4883_laptop> then just use mythvideo
[05:00] <zabbadapp> doje_: what does you /etc/lirc/hardware.conf say then? does it have reasonable info?
[05:01] <cr3ol> thanks tgm Im trying it now
[05:01] <doje_> zabbadapp: mods: lirc_dev lirc_atiusb (both are loaded), dev=/dev/lirc0 (exists)
[05:02] <doje_> zabbadapp: START_LIRCMD is commented - not sure what is
[05:03] <zabbadapp> like that for me too
[05:04] <zabbadapp> is REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="/etc/lirc/lircd.conf" correct? was wrong for me anyway before I edited it
[05:05] <zabbadapp> it used to point to a relative path that would be wrong from lircs point of view upon start (LIRCD_CONF="hauppauge/lircd.conf.hauppauge_novat500" ... nothing there)
[05:06] <doje_> zabbadapp: I was just noticing that - it's a relative path atiusb/lircd.conf.atiusb - should be /usr/share/lirc... ?
[05:07] <zabbadapp> i pointed it to the only file i had, which was /etc/lirc/lircd.conf ... it has the key sequences mapped to button name for the remote
[05:10] <doje_> zabbadapp: i have that file as well - points to the other - i'll try that
[05:15] <doje_> zabbadapp: I pulled a lircd.conf from my old setup and that's working - at least with irw
[05:16] <zabbadapp> then you're ok
[05:18] <doje_> zabbadapp: it's not controlling myth yet, but I should be able to fix that.
[05:18] <doje_> zabbadapp: Thanks for your help :-)
[05:21] <zabbadapp> that's the lircrc for myth that's wrong i guess .. bring it out from your old sys also :)
[05:21] <doje_> zabbadapp: actually, I think my button names were different so they aren't binding
[05:27] <mnishizawa> anyone else have a problem playing dvds on a clean install of mythbuntu?
[05:27] <mnishizawa> is there something extra that needs to be done?
[05:27] <DurtDiggler> for some reason my recordings have just a buzzing noise for their audio
[05:28] <DurtDiggler> why would that be happening
[05:29] <DurtDiggler> picture looks good, but the sound is like a pizo buzzer going non stop
[05:30] <tgm4883_laptop> mnishizawa, you need to install the extra codecs in mythbuntu-control-centre
[05:30] <tgm4883_laptop> libdvdcss2 to be exact
[05:30] <DurtDiggler> oh it only happened on my first recording
[05:31] <DurtDiggler> I wonder if it's the channel
[05:31] <mnishizawa> I think I've done that, but I'll check
[05:33] <mnishizawa> tgm4883_laptop, good call
[05:33] <mnishizawa> any reason I wouldn't be able to download them?
[05:34] <mnishizawa> I get 404 errors... so whatever repo it's using, they are missing
[05:34] <mnishizawa> I assume I should be able to get them with synaptic
[05:34] <tgm4883_laptop> what repo is it trying to use?
[05:35] <mnishizawa> packages.medibuntu.org
[05:38] <mnishizawa> heh... someone must have restarted the server :)
[05:39] <tgm4883_laptop> mnishizawa, working now?
[05:40] <DurtDiggler> why would the sound just cut out in the middle of a recording
[05:41] <mnishizawa> libdvdcss2 successfully installed... going to try to do the w32codecs
[05:41] <mnishizawa> that one still fails
[05:42] <DurtDiggler> this sucks
[05:42] <hads> Shame
[05:43] <DurtDiggler> this thing has audio problems
[05:43] <mnishizawa> DurtDiggler, I have noticed similar issues with other videos... non-myth related
[05:43] <DurtDiggler> what videos
[05:44] <mnishizawa> stuff I shot on a camera phone
[05:44] <mnishizawa> buzzing and sparse audio
[05:44] <DurtDiggler> I've only recorded 2 so far and the fist one only has a noise through the entire thing and the second has audio for half of it and nothing for the rest
[05:44] <mnishizawa> so you get audio sometimes?
[05:44] <DurtDiggler> so far
[05:45] <DurtDiggler> pretty much get exactly what I said
[05:45] <mnishizawa> tgm4883_laptop, dude, do you run that repo... because all of the sudden I could download the required codecs
[05:45] <tgm4883_laptop> mnishizawa, yea it seems to be having some intermintent problems
[05:46] <DurtDiggler> tgm4883_laptop: do you know why my audio is not working right
[05:46] <mnishizawa> DurtDiggler, it's possible your audio issues are more to do with the sound system itself rather than myth
[05:46] <cr3ol> @tgm well it does not like it. I was reading that because it is embeded in flash that it cannot be downloaded. If anyone else knows how to do this let me know! thanks  ﻿I want to be able to play flash from watchtvsitcoms.com via mythtv. I can watch them via firefox. any ideas?
[05:46] <DurtDiggler> mnishizawa: no it's the recording
[05:46] <DurtDiggler> not the computer
[05:46] <hads> !logs
[05:46] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/
[05:50] <tgm4883_laptop> DurtDiggler, no, although it could be a certain audio issue
[05:50] <tgm4883_laptop> try starting up live tv, let me know if you have the buzzing sound
[05:50] <tgm4883_laptop> you need the buzzing sound to test this
[05:51] <DurtDiggler> well I don't have a front end yet
[05:51] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[05:51] <DurtDiggler> I can't watch live tv
[05:51] <tgm4883_laptop> well you will need one ;)
[05:51] <DurtDiggler> Ill get one once the backend starts working
[05:51] <DurtDiggler> so far these recordings arent cutting it for me
[05:52] <tgm4883_laptop> basically switch the audio input off and back on again
[05:52] <tgm4883_laptop> using
[05:52] <tgm4883_laptop> v4l2-ctl -d 0 --set-audio-input=0
[05:52] <tgm4883_laptop> while you have the buzzing sound on live tv
[05:52] <DurtDiggler> hm
[05:52] <DurtDiggler> well one of them had the buzzing sound
[05:53] <hads> You need a frontend.
[05:53] <DurtDiggler> the other sounded fine for the first half then the sound just shut off for the rest
[05:53] <DurtDiggler> why would I need a front end to get my recordings to have decent audio
[05:54] <hads> To help you get recordings with decent audio.
[05:54] <DurtDiggler> oh well yeah
[05:54] <DurtDiggler> I'll have to go throw together another computer
[05:54] <DurtDiggler> just for testing
[05:55] <hads> For starters that's how myth is designed to work so if you've got a problem then you'll want to be using it as designed so people can help you.
[05:55] <DurtDiggler> it should still record the same
[05:56] <DurtDiggler> I'll get the front end so I can troubleshoot it
[05:56] <hads> Otherwise you may be stuck on your own sorting it out.
[06:02] <mnishizawa> tgm4883_laptop, do I need to restart my session after installing those codecs?
[06:02] <mnishizawa> still can't play dvds
[06:03] <mnishizawa> I got the dvd to play in mplayer though
[06:04] <DurtDiggler> would you have a need for a capture card on a front end
[06:06] <mnishizawa> I think the capture card is only required on the back end
[06:16] <DurtDiggler> yeah my third recording sounds like crap too
[06:16] <DurtDiggler> more of a chirping sound
[06:16] <DurtDiggler> well the same buz just not solid
[06:17] <mnishizawa> anyone know if installing the suggested updates will break myth?
[06:20] <DurtDiggler> would I be ok running a mythbuntu front end and a mythdora backend
[06:21] <tgm4883_laptop> DurtDiggler, in theory, yea
[06:22] <DurtDiggler> ok cause I only have a CD player for this thing
[06:22] <DurtDiggler> used up all my DVD drives
[06:22] <mnishizawa> in theory, you could use the live cd as a front-end temporarily, right?
[06:23] <mnishizawa> I have to say, even with these troubles, mythbuntu is a lot easier to install than LMCE
[06:24] <tgm4883_laptop> don't get me started on LMCE ;)
[06:27] <mnishizawa> restart worked... dvds now playing :D
[06:28] <mnishizawa> import failed though... "Cannot connect to your Myth Transcoding daemon..."
[06:33] <tgm4883_laptop> mnishizawa, try starting mtd from a command line
[06:35] <mnishizawa> ok... to get the entire dvd(menus, special features, etc) do you just select everything?
[06:35] <tgm4883_laptop> that seems logical, haven't tried that though
[06:36] <tgm4883_laptop> i usually just do the movie
[06:36] <mnishizawa> k... I'll keep it simple for now :)
[06:36] <mnishizawa> I says no jobs
[06:36] <mnishizawa> it*
[06:37] <tgm4883_laptop> errors?
[06:37] <mnishizawa> I think it's a permission issue tho
[06:37] <mnishizawa> I started mtd as me, instead of mythtv, I made the output directory owned by mythtv
[06:55] <mnishizawa> cool, that was the problem... thanks for the help tgm4883_laptop
[06:56] <tgm4883_laptop> np
[09:09] <sebrock> sigh... anyone else experiencing sound issues on latest kernel?
[09:11] <hads> PVR150?
[09:24] <sebrock> yup PVR-500
[09:24] <sebrock> but its the same as two 150...
[09:24] <sebrock> hads^^
[09:24] <hads> 2.6.24 has the tinny audio problem back agian.
[09:24] <hads> Occasionally
[09:25] <sebrock> Strange is that one of the tuners works fine
[09:25] <sebrock> *sort of*
[09:25] <sebrock> a few channles have crap sound
[09:25] <sebrock> and then the other tuner no sound at all
[09:25] <DapOrp> anyone here use a twinhan 102g card?
[09:25] <sebrock> what is the "tinny" problem hads?
[09:26] <DapOrp> i had this working about a year ago, but now I cannot for the life of me remember how I got it working.
[09:26] <hads> http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=ivtv+tinny+audio
[09:26] <DapOrp> dvb_bt8xx: unable to determine DMA core of card 0, dvb_bt8xx: if you have the ALSA bt87x audio driver installed, try removing it. dvb-bt8xx: probe of dvb0 failed with error -14 <- don't know if this is what's fouling it up but i have no /dev/dvb :(
[09:33] <sebrock> lol, as soon as I fix something, something else gets broken...
[09:34] <sebrock> Hardy has sucked so far...
[09:34] <hads> Works well for me.
[09:50] <sebrock> you have pvr-500/1500?
[09:50] <sebrock> you have pvr-500/150?
[10:49] <sebrock> why is the vnc so extremely slow in 8.04.1? Was way faster in 7.10. And this is on the desktop. Not inside mythfrontend with any OpenGL stuff
[11:19] <spanther> hello there :) i've installed mythbuntu theme from the repositorys and i saw that it looks really good :) similiar with XP Zune theme hehe. is there a way to download the complete theme to save it for later use ?
[11:40] <dschan> Hi everybody
[13:49] <jphillip> spanther not sure what you are getting at, but if you installed the theme, its on your box
[13:51] <spanther> jphillip, well i can give you a screenshot if you like :)
[13:52] <dschan> hi everybody
[13:53] <dschan> anybody here who can give me advice on firmware update?
[13:55] <spanther> jphillip, its the mythbuntu theme http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/6363/bildschirmfotobx2.png
[13:58] <jphillip> dschan firmware update of what?
[13:59] <dschan> hey jphii! thak you
[13:59] <dschan> for novt-t pci card
[14:00] <gndprx> Good morning.  Did an install of 8.04.1 and after troubles last night am finally able to boot to the xfce desktop but myth does not seem to be configured.  How can I kick off the back end setup?
[14:00] <dschan> but ... jack@mediencenter:/lib/firmware$ dmesg | grep dvb
[14:00] <dschan> [   42.386490] saa7146: register extension 'budget_ci dvb'.
[14:00] <dschan> [   42.421756] input: Budget-CI dvb ir receiver saa7146 (0) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.4/0000:03:06.0/input/input5
[14:00] <dschan> [  112.085742] tda1004x: waiting for firmware upload (dvb-fe-tda10045.fw)...
[14:00] <gndprx> when I try, it just complains about database connection problems
[14:01] <dschan> gndprx ... had that too. have a crappy workaround and would be glad about help, too
[14:01] <gndprx> That would be wonderful.  It's not been going well so far
[14:01] <jphillip> are you entering the correct password when it asks you for it?
[14:02] <gndprx> I'm entering the random generated password that it provided me during the install
[14:02] <dschan> yes, i found out that mysql does not even have a mythtv-user... using as root at th mom
[14:03] <gndprx> I've tried to run some of the mysql commands but get access denied even as root
[14:03] <jphillip> its been a while since I did a fresh install but I recall that mysql will ask you if you want to set a root password, then mythtv-database will ask you for that root password and generat you a mythtv mysql user which is the random password
[14:03] <dschan> ...did all that but somehow the mythtv-user dies not exist
[14:03] <gndprx> let me try with root in the setup and see what happens
[14:04] <jphillip> try to `mysql -uroot -p mythconverg`
[14:04] <jphillip> or leave out the p if you didn't set a root password
[14:05] <gndprx> unknown database mythconverg
[14:05] <dschan> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-common    helps me, too
[14:06] <gndprx> hrmm, how can I get a list of mysql databases configured?  It looks like it may not have installed the myth database
[14:06] <gndprx> I'm used to having the mysql admin tools rather than command line
[14:07] <dschan> sorry, dunno. jphillip?
[14:08] <gndprx> nm, google is good
[14:08] <jphillip> looks like your mythtv db isn't there
[14:08] <gndprx> the only db installed is the information_schema
[14:08] <gndprx> no myth database listed
[14:08] <jphillip> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[14:08] <gndprx> for some reason it didn't install with the mythbuntu installation
[14:08] <gndprx> trying that now
[14:08] <jphillip> gndprx it prob asked you for the root password and you gave it the wrong one
[14:08] <dschan> me, too
[14:09] <jphillip> also if you want a mysql tool sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[14:10] <gndprx> hrmm, might have to reset the root password.  Doesn't like anything I give it at the moment
[14:10] <dschan> how do i access it? only knwo the tool from ancient windows-xampp times
[14:12] <gndprx> ahh, got it.  Now mythconverg is there
[14:13] <dschan> how do you log into phpmyadmin?
[14:13] <dschan> address?
[14:14] <jphillip> http://IP_of_your_box/phpmyadmin
[14:15] <dschan> thx
[14:15] <gndprx> ahh, now this looks more familiar when running the backend setup
[14:16] <gndprx> thanks!
[14:16] <gndprx> not happy about it running as root, but it will work for now
[14:16] <dschan> same for me. I'll try to create a mythtv-user.
[14:17] <jphillip> gndprx you don't run as root, it just needs the mysql root to make the db/user
[14:17] <jphillip> in mythtv-setup you should be using the mythtv user with the generated password
[14:17] <gndprx> ahh, ok
[14:19] <dschan> jphillip ... it does not for me, though. where can i find the mysql users?
[14:22] <jphillip> dschan did you give mythtv-database the root password so it could create it?
[14:22] <jphillip> also do you have a mythconverg database now?
[14:26] <dschan> jack@mediencenter:/$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[14:26] <dschan> Failed to execute SQL: GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON mythconverg.* TO root@localhost IDENTIFIED BY '***SECRET***'\nAccess denied for user 'root'@'%' to database 'mythconverg' at -e line 8, <> line 1.
[14:27] <dschan> yes, have a mythconverg database, yes, typed in correct root-passwd
[14:27] <jphillip> you didn't give it the right root password then
[14:27] <jphillip> this is your mysql root password
[14:27] <dschan> ok, i'll try again
[14:27] <jphillip> not your sudo or root user password
[14:27] <jphillip> its empty by default unless you chose one while setting up mysql
[14:28] <dschan> !! I have another clue...
[14:28] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about ! I have another clue...
[14:28] <jphillip> heh
[14:29] <dschan> password semmed to be ok, but i told it thet the server runs at 192.168.0.103 (which should be correct), THEN it shows error, otherwise, with localhost, it seems to work...
[14:29] <gndprx> One other quick question.  I have an external 500Gb that it saw during the initial setup, but now that I'm in Xfce it's nowhere to be found
[14:30] <jphillip> ya, the root user is @loclhost
[14:30] <gndprx> do I have to do something different to mount it on startup?
[14:30] <jphillip> gndprx I'd mount it in fstab
[14:30] <gndprx> the only trick is that it's an ntfs drive that I can't format until I get all of the data off of it
[14:30] <gndprx> it has all of my old recordings from sagetv
[14:31] <jphillip> go search the forums for how to mount an ntfs usb drive, or google
[14:31] <gndprx> ok, just didn't know if there was a quick answer
[14:31] <gndprx> I'll do and thanks
[14:31] <dschan> or  try sudo thunar  and click on the drive if shown there
[14:31] <jphillip> I Could tell you how to do something not ntfs :)
[14:31] <gndprx> :P
[14:31] <jphillip> !support | gndprx
[14:31] <Zinn> gndprx: http://www.mythbuntu.com/support
[14:31] <jphillip> link to the forums in there
[15:52] <dschan> Hi! Can anyone help me with acpi? I found a vdr-thread that states that my mboard supports that; now i am trying to follow this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ACPI_Wakeup#Introduction --- however, i have probs there (﻿FATAL: Module rtc_cmos not found. )
[17:11] <buntumyth> hi guys , I had sound and all working, but audio was scratchy so I started looking into that, after some checking I lost audio. I can hear it in other apps (tvtime. kdetv... they both have delay of course) but nothing in mythtv (neither LiveTV or Videos that were recorded with sound). I have all the mixer settings set correctly, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Dapper_Backend_
[17:57] <buntumyth> any no-audio tips
[19:11] <gndprx> afternoon all.  Does mythfilldatabase have to run after every configuration change and if so is there a way to stop the lengthy schedules direct download every time?
[19:19] <sebrock> isnt video supposed to be shown in upper right corner on EPG? It simply says "Not Recording" here, and audio stutters?
[19:23] <zabbadapp> gndprx: no, you can skip mythfill ... it's just needed if you added new program sources and things like that ... i never run it after myth-setup except for the very first time after a complete install
[19:23] <gndprx> good deal.  Thank you.
[19:37] <CRXLPY> ok progress (of sorts)  I started with scratchy audio, I worked on that and then had no audio. I got audio back but it was very scratchy in only the left or right channel but fine in the other. Now I have clear audio in the left channel and no audio in the right. I have searched and searched, but most of the solutions are for the intel HDA soundchip. I am using a AGOGO (Maestro 1) with the snd_es1968 driver. I have blacklisted snd_
[19:41] <CRXLPY> ok I just rebooted, I have sound in both sides, but it is scratchy again....grrrrrr
[20:22] <sebrock> isnt video supposed to be shown in upper right corner on EPG? It simply says "Not Recording" here, and audio stutters? (bump)
[20:54] <zippytech> how can i increase the audio output on my sb live card
[20:59] <jphillip> zippytech alsamgr
[21:00] <jphillip> there is also an option under setup>general where you can bump it
[21:00] <sebrock> sigh
[21:00] <jphillip> I'm not in front of mythy now though so I can't tell you exactly where, 3rd page comes to mind
[21:00] <zippytech> full blast
[21:00] <sebrock> zippytech, you have video in your EPG?
[21:00] <sebrock> a scaled version in the upper right corner?
[21:02] <zippytech> ?
[21:47] <CRXLPY> ok w00t!!! just got my pvr-150 delivered and stuck it in the box. now I have a wintv tuner card and a pvr-150. but.....  now I am back to one channel audio. only the right spkr works. I have rebooted and no change
[21:49] <sebrock> CRXLPY, which kernel_
[21:50] <CRXLPY> I have it updated, lemme look
[21:50] <CRXLPY> 2.6.24-19 generic
[21:51] <sebrock> yup, broken IVTV driver
[21:51] <CRXLPY> ok is there a fix?
[21:51] <sebrock> welcome to the long line of pvr150 users with no/bad audio
[21:52] <sebrock> revert your kernel
[21:53] <CRXLPY> I had the same issue b4 I installed the pvr-150, only the hauppage tuner card. I got things happy by blacklisting the ac97 codec and rebooting a couple times. but that dont werk now. what ver kernel should I go back to?
[21:56] <jphillip> I'm not sure thats right
[21:56] <jphillip> I have 2.6.24-19-generic here, and my pvr-150 audio is fine
[21:57] <CRXLPY> ok glad you said that, I was just about to mess up
[21:58] <sebrock> jphillip, some have it some dont
[21:58] <jphillip> have you verified outside of myth that the sytems audio works fine?
[21:58] <CRXLPY> the audio in the spkr that has sound often sounds like a movie projector that has had the film jump the teeth (like every thing is gargling) it is echoing too
[21:58] <sebrock> I got it when upgrading my kernel
[21:59] <sebrock> but your problem might be alsa then
[21:59] <CRXLPY>  jphillip yes it sounds fine in tvtime and kdetv (with the delay cuz they use the line in)
[22:00] <sebrock> well then you are not one of us
[22:01] <jphillip> CRXLPY 2 things I'd try, 1. mess with the audio settings in myth, setup>general> 3rd page I think
[22:01] <jphillip> 2. record something, and then open it in mplayer or vlc, see if the audio is ok
[22:02] <jphillip> will at least point you at whats wrong
[22:03] <CRXLPY> so how do I load a nuv file in those players?
[22:06] <jphillip> pvr-150 should give you mpeg files
[22:11] <CRXLPY> ok I cant find this, how do I tell mythtv to record a file while I am watching live tv?  or do I need to set a scheduled record :(
[22:12] <CRXLPY> I have tried "r" but that just starts recording, then cancels the recording when I hit is again
[22:16] <CRXLPY> right channel only in mplayer too jphillip
[22:20] <CRXLPY> I am installing the ivtv-utils pkg, some of the things I have seen use v4l2-ctl which I think is in that
[22:23] <CRXLPY> before I try that tho   I am gonna un-blacklist the ac97-codec
[22:26] <CRXLPY> tgm4883_laptop any input on why one channel of audio would go away after adding a pvr-150 to a system that already had a tuner card?
[22:26] <tgm4883_laptop> wheres the channel from?
[22:27] <CRXLPY> livetv
[22:27] <CRXLPY> is that what you meant?  recordings miss it too
[22:27] <tgm4883_laptop> no, is it analog cable?
[22:27] <tgm4883_laptop> whats the other tuner?
[22:29] <CRXLPY> yes it ia a wintv 44327  analong tuner
[22:29] <tgm4883_laptop> does that channel have audio on either tuner or on neither tuner?
[22:29] <rhpot1991> I thought you said pvr150
[22:29] <CRXLPY> I just rebooted and now the dead chennel has swapped sides
[22:29] <CRXLPY> rhpot1991 I did
[22:30] <CRXLPY> that is the 2nd card
[22:30] <rhpot1991> ah other tuner
[22:30]  * rhpot1991 needs to learn to read
[22:30] <CRXLPY> I just loaded tvtime and both sides are fine through it
[22:31] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, what do the logs say?
[22:35] <buntumyth> http://pastebin.com/d699d2693
[22:36] <buntumyth> there is the last chunk of mythbackend.log tgm4883_laptop
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop> buntumyth, hmm, doesn't say anything about the audio, but I do notice two things
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop> the -ps -ts thing
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop> and setting your video bitrate to 5900000
[22:38] <CRXLPY> hmmm frontend log says unable to open mixer: ALSA:default
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop> strange
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop> it plays audio though?
[22:39] <CRXLPY> through on spkr
[22:39] <CRXLPY> one spkr
[22:40] <tgm4883_laptop> so it's mono
[22:40] <tgm4883_laptop> and thats a mythtv thing?  as other players are stereo?
[22:40] <CRXLPY> yes other players use bothe spkrs
[22:40] <tgm4883_laptop> just out of curiousity, what happens if you try and play the recording from that channel that doesn't have audio in mythtv, what happens if you play it outside of mythtv?
[22:41] <CRXLPY> recordings from mythtv played in mplayer are one spkr only
[22:43] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, is there a setting for that either in recording profiles or mythtv setup for setting the tuner to stereo?
[22:43] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm not at home, or i'd check
[22:43] <CRXLPY> yes and it is set to stereo
[22:44] <vbman11_> Hi I'm having trouble setting up sound on my saa7134 card with mythtv, it works perfectly with tvtime
[22:44] <CRXLPY> interesting thing. I changed mixer from ALSA:default to /dev/mixer  and the audio in the spkr that works has less scratch in it
[22:46] <CRXLPY> but I still have the error about it not opening, let me pastebin that
[22:46] <rhpot1991> tuner drivers it sounds like
[22:47] <buntumyth> http://pastebin.com/d4773dedf
[22:47] <CRXLPY> tgm4883_laptop^^
[22:48] <CRXLPY> who made your saa7134 card vbman11_?
[22:48] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, looks like it doesn't like /dev/mixer
[22:49] <CRXLPY> tgm4883_laptop at the top of that you can see what it said when I had it set to ALSA:default tgm4883_laptop
[22:50] <CRXLPY> I also was trying /dev/dsp as the output instead of ALSA:default at that point but got the same results
[22:50] <tgm4883_laptop> I think trying to fix that is putting the horse before the cart.  The recordings themselves are only mono right?
[22:51] <tgm4883_laptop> and
 just out of curiousity, what happens if you try and play the recording from that channel that doesn't have audio in mythtv, what happens if you play it outside of mythtv?
 recordings from mythtv played in mplayer are one spkr only
[22:51] <CRXLPY> yes
[22:51] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^ is that true even for the channel that have no audio at all in mythtv?
[22:54] <vbman11_> CRXLPY: just a sec
[22:54] <CRXLPY> umm not sure what you mean...   I record livetv (only left spkr) I exit myth and play recording in mplayer and only left spkr has sound
[22:54] <vbman11_> CRXLPY: Sabrent
[22:55] <vbman11_> CRXLPY: it was like $16 off newegg
[22:56] <vbman11_> CRXLPY: mythtv just isn't reading the sound, I've also read that I need to patch mythtv to unmute my card?
[22:56] <CRXLPY> what cpu are you gonna use that on vbman11_
[22:57] <vbman11_> CRXLPY: processor? 32bit
[22:57] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, you said that you have 1 channel with no audio right?
[22:58] <CRXLPY> tgm4883_laptop yes only left spkr  (if I reboot it may swap sides, but still only one spkr)
[22:58] <CRXLPY> vbman11_ what speed?
[22:58] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, so all channels have audio in at least one speaker?
[22:59] <vbman11_> 500 megahertz x2
[22:59] <CRXLPY> by channel do you mean tv channels? or input channels?
[22:59] <vbman11_> really old server
[23:00] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, tv channels
[23:00] <CRXLPY> ewwww vbman11_ I hope you dont plan to record
[23:00] <vbman11_> CRXLPY: just messing arround with it
[23:00] <tgm4883_laptop> vbman11_, AFAIK, there is no 500 megahertz X2
[23:01] <tgm4883_laptop> link?
[23:01] <rhpot1991_phone> !status
[23:01] <Zinn> I am alive.
[23:01] <vbman11_> two intel pentium 3's
[23:01] <CRXLPY> tgm4883_laptop same on all channels I just when too
[23:01] <tgm4883_laptop> vbman11_, oh, see when you say x2, people tend to think of an AMD processor
[23:02] <vbman11_> ohh
[23:02] <CRXLPY> thats what I thought
[23:02] <CRXLPY> since I am working on my system I had not gotten to noting a 500x2 did not exist
[23:03] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, fix the other 2 issues on your backend, see if it's somehow related to your current issue
[23:04] <CRXLPY> yeah I was thinking that, I hope it is a simple perm issue, although it saying /dev/mixer does not exist is troubling
[23:05] <CRXLPY> hmm /dev/mixer is there and perms are good
[23:06] <vbman11_> tgm4883_laptop: any idea on how to get my sound to work, btw I can hear the sound through the speakers on my server
[23:07] <CRXLPY> I am fighting the same demon now vbman11_
[23:07] <vbman11_> CRXLPY: ahh, I see
[23:08] <vbman11_> CRXLPY: what card
[23:08] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLNAWAY, actually I was talking about this error
[23:08] <tgm4883_laptop> #
[23:08] <tgm4883_laptop> MPEGRec(/dev/video1) Warning: Stream type 'MPEG-2 TS'
[23:08] <tgm4883_laptop> #
[23:08] <tgm4883_laptop>                         is not supported by ivtv driver, using 'MPEG-2 PS' instead.
[23:08] <CRXLPY> ok
[23:08] <tgm4883_laptop> and
[23:08] <tgm4883_laptop> MPEGRec(/dev/video1) Error: Could not set Video Peak Bitrate to 5900000
[23:09] <tgm4883_laptop> and NVR(/dev/video0) Error: Can't open vbi device: '/dev/vbi'
[23:11] <CRXLPY> yeah it has never opened /dev/vbi even b4 the 150 was added,  since I dont care about cc I just ignored that. I had sound going while that error was going on
[23:11] <tgm4883_laptop> gotta reboot
[23:13] <vbman11_> guys! I got mine to kinda work!
[23:15] <CRXLPY> u r ahead of me then vbman11_
[23:15] <vbman11_> I just opened up tvtime on the server and I got sound!
[23:16] <vbman11_> It's really quiet though
[23:17] <vbman11_> I have everything turned up too
[23:20] <buntumyth> tgm4883_laptop: this is with bitrate=11000 and max bitrate=22000   I havent found where it is looking for /dev/vbi    /dev/vbi0 is what is in the settings
[23:20] <buntumyth> http://pastebin.com/d12d66b5a
[23:22] <vbman11_> tgm4883_laptop: I kinda got mine to work
[23:24] <buntumyth> tgm4883_laptop: this is my backend log from the same run http://pastebin.com/m4cb8ef
[23:27] <CRXLPY> vbman11_ you arent the only one with this card that has low audio  http://forum.byopvr.com/dvr/index.php/topic,1708.0.html
[23:30] <CRXLPY> I am just going to type none into the vbi blank
[23:31] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll think about it while I drive home
[23:31] <vbman11_> CRXLPY: but the card works perfectly in tvtime
[23:32] <CRXLPY> vbman11_ it has good audio level?
[23:32] <vbman11_> in tvtime yes
[23:33] <vbman11_> well mabey I should explain more
[23:33] <CRXLPY> always
[23:33] <vbman11_> the audio input works
[23:34] <vbman11_> I can't really know if tvtime is actually reading the audio
[23:34] <CRXLPY> you can, is the audio in sync?
[23:35] <vbman11_> on my card I use an external cord to connect the audio to the line in, and yes
[23:36] <CRXLPY> my tuner card connects the same way
[23:36] <CRXLPY> but the newly added pvr-150 does not
[23:37] <CRXLPY> but in mythtv your audio going to the spkrs comes after the capture, not b4(which is where tvtime gets it)
[23:37] <vbman11_> is there a way to list the /dev/* audio files and what they are linked to (master, line-in, etc)
[23:38] <CRXLPY> you would need to google that one, I dont know.   why would you need to?
[23:38] <vbman11_> to give mythtv the correct audio device
[23:38] <vbman11_> to read from
[23:39] <CRXLPY> how many soundcards do you have installed?
[23:39] <CRXLPY> it is alsa that needs to know, not mythtv
[23:40] <vbman11_> one sound card
[23:40] <CRXLPY> enter "asoundconf list"
[23:41] <CRXLPY> you should see a device for your sndcard and one for your tuner
[23:41] <CRXLPY> tic toc
[23:42] <vbman11_> riptide and saa7134\
[23:42] <vbman11_> and sry vnc is slow
[23:42] <CRXLPY> ok "asoundconf set-default-card riptide"
[23:43] <CRXLPY> why are you on vnc? you at werk?
[23:43] <vbman11_> no just don't want to walk over to the tv and try to read the small text
[23:43] <vbman11_> and done
[23:44] <CRXLPY> you should ssh
[23:44] <vbman11_> faster?
[23:44] <vbman11_> and how?
[23:45] <CRXLPY> no reason to have your whole screen going across the lan when you can see the tv, ssh will just open a shell  (are you in linux or windows on the system in front of you?)
[23:46] <vbman11_> linux of course
[23:46] <vbman11_> windows sucks
[23:46] <CRXLPY> I dont assume, I cant see through irc, if I guess wrong I would waste both our time
[23:46] <vbman11_> ohh
[23:47] <vbman11_> sry
[23:47] <CRXLPY> close vnc for now, you can always reopen it
[23:47] <vbman11_> ok
[23:47] <vbman11_> done
[23:48] <CRXLPY> now enter "ssh <ip of mythbox>
[23:48] <CRXLPY> "
[23:48] <vbman11_> cool
[23:49] <CRXLPY> if it fails you may need to include a username local to the mythbox
[23:49] <vbman11_> it worked
[23:49] <CRXLPY> btw ssh (secure shell)  this is ssl encrypted
[23:49] <vbman11_> very nice
[23:50] <vbman11_> is there a way to edit the settings of the myth backend in terminal
[23:50] <CRXLPY> it can be set up to do Xforwarding  which lets you run x on mythbox but it uses the display on the local box
[23:51] <CRXLPY> yes there is
[23:51] <vbman11_> how
[23:51] <CRXLPY> we havent gotten there
[23:51] <vbman11_> ohh
[23:53] <CRXLPY> if you are getting audio out of mythtv from your tuner card AND the audio is in sync then it has the right device
[23:53] <vbman11_> yeah
[23:53] <CRXLPY> so no settings to adjust
[23:53] <vbman11_> so how do I make it louder
[23:54] <vbman11_> do you know?
[23:55] <CRXLPY> that card just has low audio.  did you read the link I posted a while ago?
[23:56] <vbman11_> well then how is it loud when I plug speakers into the audio out of the card
[23:57] <vbman11_> and also I can just barely hear a whisper with alot of noise
[23:57] <CRXLPY> google "mythtv sabient sa1134" ............... that is pre-capture. you are hearing the volume of the soundcard, not the volume of the tuner card
[23:58] <vbman11_> over the network through myth
[23:58] <CRXLPY> that is 3 separate issues
[23:58] <vbman11_> you got a point
[23:59] <CRXLPY> I have a sa1134 card and junked it
[23:59] <vbman11_> well I guess I'm off to google
[23:59] <CRXLPY> google is your friend