[03:04] anybody know of any obvious reasons that my mythtv seems as if it's recording my programs, but all the .nuv files are only about 57.3KB in size and the png files are just black [03:05] What type of capture card? [03:05] Also [03:05] pvr 250 [03:05] !logs [03:05] MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ [03:05] At a guess, you've got it setup as the wrong type of card in mythtv-setup [03:06] hm [03:06] Recordings from a PVRx50 should be mpg [03:06] yea the pvr 250 shouldn't make .nuv files [03:06] ohh [03:06] whats the name of the log I should be checking [03:07] the backend one, but I'd guess that's your issue. [03:07] it would be the backend log, but i'd just fix the card type [03:07] snap :) [03:07] right now I only have a backend [03:07] I should still be able to record and see my recordings thorugh mythweb right? [03:07] it's /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [03:07] not if it's not recording [03:08] which i assume it's not [03:08] well yah [03:08] But yes [03:08] lemme check the card settings [03:10] what shoudl the card type be [03:11] for a pvr 250 [03:11] err [03:11] card type should be [03:11] hardware encoder card? [03:11] * [03:12] I believe it says something to the effect of (PVR-XXX) [03:12] Yeah, Hardware MPEG (PVR-x50) or something to that effect. [03:12] well Im looking through the drop down in the mythtv setup [03:12] Yes [03:12] oh duh [03:13] yeah I missed that one [03:13] :) [03:13] whats settings need to be used inside xorg to get dvi and tv out in a asus m2npv-vm [03:13] no wonder this things not working [03:16] is it true you can run a front end just from a CD? [03:16] I thought I read that somewhere [03:16] using mythbuntu [03:16] yes [03:17] ohh yeah [03:17] thats why I didn't see that option [03:17] I have mythdora [03:17] :) [03:18] they werent too big on the web design part of this it seems [03:18] i feel like it is quite functional [03:18] :_) [03:18] :) [03:18] I'm sure patches would be welcome. [03:19] oh yeah it's functional for sure [03:19] I think I might have to make a really nice skin for this thing [03:22] would my recordings come out ok if my storage is a cifs mount from my file server [03:22] should be asong as its auto mounted and speed is good [03:23] yeah Im figuring my network speed is much faster than the bitrate [03:24] with a PVR 250, as long as you got at least wireless G you should be fine [03:24] haha wireless [03:25] is that saying something bad about pvr 250? [03:26] nope [03:26] i'm just giving the minimum specs [03:26] well [03:26] the recommended specs [03:26] since it's SD not HD [03:26] HD you need to be wired [03:27] oh well yeah [03:27] I jsut read a whole lot about the cards and it seemed that most poeple go with the pvr 250 [03:27] whats the 250 have that the 150 doesn't? [03:27] I have a 150 and a 500 [03:27] yeah I want a 500 [03:27] Yeah, I'd say the 150 is probably most common. [03:28] but it's so hard to find [03:28] oh yeah I think 150 and 250 were pretty close [03:28] I forgot what was different [03:28] They 250 and 150 do the same thing, I think the 150 is newer. [03:28] (and still old now) [03:28] I read that the quality is slightly better with the 250 [03:28] iirc they are end of life now [03:28] Yup [03:29] the 500 looked really nice [03:29] as long as you don't have the samsung tuner I guess [03:29] type b or something like that [03:30] honestly i'd prefer if the digital mandate was sooner [03:30] hah yeah [03:31] the pvr cards are nice, but once you go digital there is no comparison [03:32] wahts your opinion on hardware encoding [03:32] does it really take a lot of cpu without it [03:32] its a must. Thats why the PVR cards are so popular [03:32] ah [03:33] thats what I figured [03:33] software encoders (besides the higher cpu) have other issues as well [03:33] I felt like I needed a card that does it's own encoding, but wasnt sure how important it was [03:34] it's pretty important, although that will confuse people when things are digital [03:34] probably so much easier with digital [03:34] well it's not necessary with digital [03:35] thers no converting though right [03:35] it comes pre-encoded [03:35] You receive it and put it on the disk. That's it. [03:36] nice thats what I figured [03:36] less heat less power consumption [03:39] for some reason after I changed my card type my upcoming recordings page is empty [03:39] DurtDiggler, did you also do steps 3 and 4? [03:40] oh oops I didn't follow through it [03:40] thats probably it [03:40] it's not connected to the lineup anymore [03:40] you should only need to do step 4 [03:40] oh wait [03:40] there was nothing else to do [03:41] Evening. I am going through an install from 8.04.1 Live CD. It goes through the motions to install and then returns to the LiveCD X desktop and never launches a Myth Setup. Did I miss something? [03:42] If I remove the CD and reboot, it boots to a terminal login rather than into ubuntu [03:44] gndprx, let me run through a quick install [03:45] thx [03:47] I thought it's supposed to check for duplicates [03:47] it seems it keeps trying to record the same show over if it shows for a second time [03:52] gndprx, did you boot into the live environment or just the installer? [03:53] I've tried both ways and both end with the same result [03:53] If I boot directly to the installer, it installs and then drops me to the live cd desktop [03:54] if I go through the live environment, it just returns me to the same after the install [03:55] I just did a sudo startx from the terminal, went to the mythbuntu control center and it won't let me launch mythtv setup [03:56] interesting. hardly anything loaded when I launched X. No network or anything [03:57] did you verify your cd burn? [03:57] yes [03:58] actually [03:58] I verified the iso [03:58] didn't verify the burn [03:58] let me do that now [04:04] gndprx, is it the i386 or amd64 disk? [04:04] i386 [04:04] ok [04:04] did that cd check out? [04:05] i just did a virtualbox install here just fine [04:05] I can run it against the iso and get a hash. How do I check the burn? [04:05] I'm assuming your talking about md5sum [04:06] yea [04:07] what is supposed to happen when there is a conflict [04:07] does it not record any of them? [04:07] gndprx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20on%20CD [04:08] DurtDiggler, it will record which ever one has a higher priority [04:08] oh ok [04:08] DurtDiggler, i'm not sure what happens if they have the same priority [04:08] it seems I had 2 and they jsut disapeared [04:11] just waiting for it to finish [04:12] ran md5sum per that page and it returned nothing. Just back to a prompt [04:13] so looks like it's good [04:13] hmm [04:13] well maybe not [04:14] should it return any values? [04:14] yea it should return ok [04:14] let me check something [04:17] heh [04:18] gndprx, boot the live cd, there should be a verify cd on the boot menu [04:18] k [04:19] Check CD for Defects - and it's running now [04:21] Check finished, no errors found [04:22] hmm [04:24] Is there a benefit to installing the mythbuntu cd over installing Heron and then putting myth over top of it? [04:25] I do know that Heron will install [04:26] gndprx, well you wouldn't have the extra gnome stuff installed [04:26] although you could do a number of things [04:26] if you are not worried about the disk space, do it that way [04:27] if you are, then install either xubuntu (since we use the xfce desktop) or install the command line system and apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop [04:27] or you could try the alternate cd [04:27] What is the alternate cd anyway? [04:27] non live cd install [04:28] maybe I'll give that a try before I do anything else [04:28] it usually is used to for people who have graphical issues when installing, but may fix your problem [04:29] setup to download now and I'll give that a try later or tomorrow. If not, I'll drop back by again [04:29] thanks for your help so far [04:30] back tomorrow...thx [04:34] hi, I'm having trouble getting my ATI remote working. I've tried both the kernel and userspace drivers [04:36] it shows up in lsusb and lsmod, but irw gives no output. what am I missing ? [04:37] hey it's recording now :) [04:41] doje_: is lirc configured correct? [04:43] zabbadapp: I configured it from the control center. it's running and the various files look ok from I can tell [04:46] do you have the ati listed when you do "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" .. i don't use an ati (radio controlled, right?) remote, so i'm not sure it should show up there [04:47] zabbadapp: no, it's not listed there [04:47] zabbadapp: I see it in lsusb though [04:49] IF it had been listed there, I would have asked you to check /etc/lirc/hardware.conf to see if the event matched between the two ... but i don't know if lirc work like that for that remote [04:50] zabbadapp: I've had it working with lirc before [04:51] Can someone help me with a flash problem? I want to be able to play flash from watchtvsitcoms.com via mythtv. I can watch them via firefox. any ideas? [04:53] cr3ol, you could initiate a download to your mythvideo directory via wget then watch it with mythvideo [04:53] or you could possibly write a parser for mythstream [04:54] thats how i watched the nba vegas summer league games, by wgetting the stream [04:55] sounds like I need to get a little dirty. I am fairly noob to this. could you provide an example... I can probably go from there. [04:56] well the way i did it was I used firefox and looked at the page info which showed me the media stream (in this case, it was the one ending in .asx) [04:56] then I just used wget to start grabbing that stream and downloaded it to my mythvideo directory [04:57] then used mythvideo start it and as long as I didn't get ahead of the download I was fine [04:57] A better solution would be to write a parser and not bother with the wget part, but you have to write the code for that ;) [04:58] actually i take that back [04:58] i used mimms [04:58] which is a stream downloader [04:58] not wget [04:58] sorry about that [04:58] this is the command I used from my mythvideo directory [04:58] mimms http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nba/9929/500_nba-league_pass_phoenix_051201.asx BasketballSat.asx [04:58] im looking all this up while you are typing [04:58] cool [04:59] I try that [04:59] that downloaded to a file called BasketballSat.asx [04:59] then just use mythvideo [05:00] doje_: what does you /etc/lirc/hardware.conf say then? does it have reasonable info? [05:01] thanks tgm Im trying it now [05:01] zabbadapp: mods: lirc_dev lirc_atiusb (both are loaded), dev=/dev/lirc0 (exists) [05:02] zabbadapp: START_LIRCMD is commented - not sure what is [05:03] like that for me too [05:04] is REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="/etc/lirc/lircd.conf" correct? was wrong for me anyway before I edited it [05:05] it used to point to a relative path that would be wrong from lircs point of view upon start (LIRCD_CONF="hauppauge/lircd.conf.hauppauge_novat500" ... nothing there) [05:06] zabbadapp: I was just noticing that - it's a relative path atiusb/lircd.conf.atiusb - should be /usr/share/lirc... ? [05:07] i pointed it to the only file i had, which was /etc/lirc/lircd.conf ... it has the key sequences mapped to button name for the remote [05:10] zabbadapp: i have that file as well - points to the other - i'll try that [05:15] zabbadapp: I pulled a lircd.conf from my old setup and that's working - at least with irw [05:16] then you're ok [05:18] zabbadapp: it's not controlling myth yet, but I should be able to fix that. [05:18] zabbadapp: Thanks for your help :-) [05:21] that's the lircrc for myth that's wrong i guess .. bring it out from your old sys also :) [05:21] zabbadapp: actually, I think my button names were different so they aren't binding [05:27] anyone else have a problem playing dvds on a clean install of mythbuntu? [05:27] is there something extra that needs to be done? [05:27] for some reason my recordings have just a buzzing noise for their audio [05:28] why would that be happening [05:29] picture looks good, but the sound is like a pizo buzzer going non stop [05:30] mnishizawa, you need to install the extra codecs in mythbuntu-control-centre [05:30] libdvdcss2 to be exact [05:30] oh it only happened on my first recording [05:31] I wonder if it's the channel [05:31] I think I've done that, but I'll check [05:33] tgm4883_laptop, good call [05:33] any reason I wouldn't be able to download them? [05:34] I get 404 errors... so whatever repo it's using, they are missing [05:34] I assume I should be able to get them with synaptic [05:34] what repo is it trying to use? [05:35] packages.medibuntu.org [05:38] heh... someone must have restarted the server :) [05:39] mnishizawa, working now? [05:40] why would the sound just cut out in the middle of a recording [05:41] libdvdcss2 successfully installed... going to try to do the w32codecs [05:41] that one still fails [05:42] this sucks [05:42] Shame [05:43] this thing has audio problems [05:43] DurtDiggler, I have noticed similar issues with other videos... non-myth related [05:43] what videos [05:44] stuff I shot on a camera phone [05:44] buzzing and sparse audio [05:44] I've only recorded 2 so far and the fist one only has a noise through the entire thing and the second has audio for half of it and nothing for the rest [05:44] so you get audio sometimes? [05:44] so far [05:45] pretty much get exactly what I said [05:45] tgm4883_laptop, dude, do you run that repo... because all of the sudden I could download the required codecs [05:45] mnishizawa, yea it seems to be having some intermintent problems [05:46] tgm4883_laptop: do you know why my audio is not working right [05:46] DurtDiggler, it's possible your audio issues are more to do with the sound system itself rather than myth [05:46] @tgm well it does not like it. I was reading that because it is embeded in flash that it cannot be downloaded. If anyone else knows how to do this let me know! thanks I want to be able to play flash from watchtvsitcoms.com via mythtv. I can watch them via firefox. any ideas? [05:46] mnishizawa: no it's the recording [05:46] not the computer [05:46] !logs [05:46] MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ [05:50] DurtDiggler, no, although it could be a certain audio issue [05:50] try starting up live tv, let me know if you have the buzzing sound [05:50] you need the buzzing sound to test this [05:51] well I don't have a front end yet [05:51] ah [05:51] I can't watch live tv [05:51] well you will need one ;) [05:51] Ill get one once the backend starts working [05:51] so far these recordings arent cutting it for me [05:52] basically switch the audio input off and back on again [05:52] using [05:52] v4l2-ctl -d 0 --set-audio-input=0 [05:52] while you have the buzzing sound on live tv [05:52] hm [05:52] well one of them had the buzzing sound [05:53] You need a frontend. [05:53] the other sounded fine for the first half then the sound just shut off for the rest [05:53] why would I need a front end to get my recordings to have decent audio [05:54] To help you get recordings with decent audio. [05:54] oh well yeah [05:54] I'll have to go throw together another computer [05:54] just for testing [05:55] For starters that's how myth is designed to work so if you've got a problem then you'll want to be using it as designed so people can help you. [05:55] it should still record the same [05:56] I'll get the front end so I can troubleshoot it [05:56] Otherwise you may be stuck on your own sorting it out. [06:02] tgm4883_laptop, do I need to restart my session after installing those codecs? [06:02] still can't play dvds [06:03] I got the dvd to play in mplayer though [06:04] would you have a need for a capture card on a front end [06:06] I think the capture card is only required on the back end [06:16] yeah my third recording sounds like crap too [06:16] more of a chirping sound [06:16] well the same buz just not solid [06:17] anyone know if installing the suggested updates will break myth? [06:20] would I be ok running a mythbuntu front end and a mythdora backend [06:21] DurtDiggler, in theory, yea [06:22] ok cause I only have a CD player for this thing [06:22] used up all my DVD drives [06:22] in theory, you could use the live cd as a front-end temporarily, right? [06:23] I have to say, even with these troubles, mythbuntu is a lot easier to install than LMCE [06:24] don't get me started on LMCE ;) [06:27] restart worked... dvds now playing :D [06:28] import failed though... "Cannot connect to your Myth Transcoding daemon..." [06:33] mnishizawa, try starting mtd from a command line [06:35] ok... to get the entire dvd(menus, special features, etc) do you just select everything? [06:35] that seems logical, haven't tried that though [06:36] i usually just do the movie [06:36] k... I'll keep it simple for now :) [06:36] I says no jobs [06:36] it* [06:37] errors? [06:37] I think it's a permission issue tho [06:37] I started mtd as me, instead of mythtv, I made the output directory owned by mythtv [06:55] cool, that was the problem... thanks for the help tgm4883_laptop [06:56] np [09:09] sigh... anyone else experiencing sound issues on latest kernel? [09:11] PVR150? [09:24] yup PVR-500 [09:24] but its the same as two 150... [09:24] hads^^ [09:24] 2.6.24 has the tinny audio problem back agian. [09:24] Occasionally [09:25] Strange is that one of the tuners works fine [09:25] *sort of* [09:25] a few channles have crap sound [09:25] and then the other tuner no sound at all [09:25] anyone here use a twinhan 102g card? [09:25] what is the "tinny" problem hads? [09:26] i had this working about a year ago, but now I cannot for the life of me remember how I got it working. [09:26] http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=ivtv+tinny+audio [09:26] dvb_bt8xx: unable to determine DMA core of card 0, dvb_bt8xx: if you have the ALSA bt87x audio driver installed, try removing it. dvb-bt8xx: probe of dvb0 failed with error -14 <- don't know if this is what's fouling it up but i have no /dev/dvb :( [09:33] lol, as soon as I fix something, something else gets broken... [09:34] Hardy has sucked so far... [09:34] Works well for me. [09:50] you have pvr-500/1500? [09:50] you have pvr-500/150? [10:49] why is the vnc so extremely slow in 8.04.1? Was way faster in 7.10. And this is on the desktop. Not inside mythfrontend with any OpenGL stuff [11:19] hello there :) i've installed mythbuntu theme from the repositorys and i saw that it looks really good :) similiar with XP Zune theme hehe. is there a way to download the complete theme to save it for later use ? [11:40] Hi everybody [13:49] spanther not sure what you are getting at, but if you installed the theme, its on your box [13:51] jphillip, well i can give you a screenshot if you like :) [13:52] hi everybody [13:53] anybody here who can give me advice on firmware update? [13:55] jphillip, its the mythbuntu theme http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/6363/bildschirmfotobx2.png [13:58] dschan firmware update of what? [13:59] hey jphii! thak you [13:59] for novt-t pci card [14:00] Good morning. Did an install of 8.04.1 and after troubles last night am finally able to boot to the xfce desktop but myth does not seem to be configured. How can I kick off the back end setup? [14:00] but ... jack@mediencenter:/lib/firmware$ dmesg | grep dvb [14:00] [ 42.386490] saa7146: register extension 'budget_ci dvb'. [14:00] [ 42.421756] input: Budget-CI dvb ir receiver saa7146 (0) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.4/0000:03:06.0/input/input5 [14:00] [ 112.085742] tda1004x: waiting for firmware upload (dvb-fe-tda10045.fw)... [14:00] when I try, it just complains about database connection problems [14:01] gndprx ... had that too. have a crappy workaround and would be glad about help, too [14:01] That would be wonderful. It's not been going well so far [14:01] are you entering the correct password when it asks you for it? [14:02] I'm entering the random generated password that it provided me during the install [14:02] yes, i found out that mysql does not even have a mythtv-user... using as root at th mom [14:03] I've tried to run some of the mysql commands but get access denied even as root [14:03] its been a while since I did a fresh install but I recall that mysql will ask you if you want to set a root password, then mythtv-database will ask you for that root password and generat you a mythtv mysql user which is the random password [14:03] ...did all that but somehow the mythtv-user dies not exist [14:03] let me try with root in the setup and see what happens [14:04] try to `mysql -uroot -p mythconverg` [14:04] or leave out the p if you didn't set a root password [14:05] unknown database mythconverg [14:05] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-common helps me, too [14:06] hrmm, how can I get a list of mysql databases configured? It looks like it may not have installed the myth database [14:06] I'm used to having the mysql admin tools rather than command line [14:07] sorry, dunno. jphillip? [14:08] nm, google is good [14:08] looks like your mythtv db isn't there [14:08] the only db installed is the information_schema [14:08] no myth database listed [14:08] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [14:08] for some reason it didn't install with the mythbuntu installation [14:08] trying that now [14:08] gndprx it prob asked you for the root password and you gave it the wrong one [14:08] me, too [14:09] also if you want a mysql tool sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin [14:10] hrmm, might have to reset the root password. Doesn't like anything I give it at the moment [14:10] how do i access it? only knwo the tool from ancient windows-xampp times [14:12] ahh, got it. Now mythconverg is there [14:13] how do you log into phpmyadmin? [14:13] address? [14:14] http://IP_of_your_box/phpmyadmin [14:15] thx [14:15] ahh, now this looks more familiar when running the backend setup [14:16] thanks! [14:16] not happy about it running as root, but it will work for now [14:16] same for me. I'll try to create a mythtv-user. [14:17] gndprx you don't run as root, it just needs the mysql root to make the db/user [14:17] in mythtv-setup you should be using the mythtv user with the generated password [14:17] ahh, ok [14:19] jphillip ... it does not for me, though. where can i find the mysql users? [14:22] dschan did you give mythtv-database the root password so it could create it? [14:22] also do you have a mythconverg database now? [14:26] jack@mediencenter:/$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [14:26] Failed to execute SQL: GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON mythconverg.* TO root@localhost IDENTIFIED BY '***SECRET***'\nAccess denied for user 'root'@'%' to database 'mythconverg' at -e line 8, <> line 1. [14:27] yes, have a mythconverg database, yes, typed in correct root-passwd [14:27] you didn't give it the right root password then [14:27] this is your mysql root password [14:27]