| macd | mathiaz, YES! | 00:25 |
|---|---|---|
| macd | TY | 00:25 |
| macd | mathiaz, I've been trying to get someone to look at mod_rails, so we can get the rails stack done | 00:26 |
| mathiaz | macd: right - I've finished reviewing the package | 00:27 |
| mathiaz | macd: I'll send my comments but overall it looks good | 00:28 |
| macd | This one correct: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=passenger | 00:28 |
| macd | just to make sure were talking the same one | 00:28 |
| mathiaz | macd: It seems that mod_rails is very memory hungry | 00:28 |
| mathiaz | macd: yop - I've reviewed the passenger package | 00:28 |
| macd | It only builds against a forking server | 00:28 |
| mathiaz | macd: correct - we do the same with php | 00:29 |
| macd | so until its able to be built with perthread its kindve a stalemate | 00:29 |
| macd | but so far mod_rails handles mem the best of all the other rails serving solutions | 00:29 |
| mathiaz | macd: according to the passenger documentation it should only take 10 lines of code | 00:29 |
| macd | if that | 00:29 |
| macd | its standard debian vhost, and a directory | 00:29 |
| mathiaz | macd: At the moment, Passenger does not support Apache with the worker MPM (which uses threads instead of processes). But because the application pool is implemented in a modular way, supporting the worker MPM shouldn't take more than 10 lines of code. | 00:30 |
| macd | ohh, I was on another page | 00:30 |
| mathiaz | macd: ^^ from http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Architectural%20overview.html | 00:30 |
| macd | Interesting, I'll talk to Neil the guy who packaged it, see if hes interested in looking into that | 00:30 |
| mathiaz | macd: I heard that nginx+thin is one of the best solution out there | 00:30 |
| macd | Ive heard that as well | 00:31 |
| macd | I've seen some benchmarks that dont show much of a diff really | 00:32 |
| macd | http://ariekanarie.nl/archives/51/mod_rails-vs-thin-vs-ebb-vs-mongrel | 00:32 |
| macd | thats just thin, not nginx added in | 00:32 |
| mathiaz | macd: hm - interesting | 00:34 |
| mathiaz | macd: but it seems that deploying apps under mod_rails is easier than the other solutions | 00:34 |
| macd | mod_rails is by far the easiest to configure for sure also | 00:34 |
| macd | its just a standard vhost | 00:35 |
| macd | with the index set to a deeper location, so its fairly straightforward | 00:35 |
| * mathiaz agrees | 00:35 | |
| macd | Much easier to work that in, than what we were looking at with mongrels and multiple configuration changes | 00:35 |
| mathiaz | macd: there are some incompatibility with other apache module though | 00:35 |
| mathiaz | macd: the default virtual host creates an Alias for /doc, which broke my first test | 00:36 |
| mathiaz | macd: removing it and it worked like a charm :) | 00:36 |
| macd | did you leave a note about that? | 00:36 |
| macd | As far as the modules go, you can use them still on different vhosts, just not within your rails host | 00:37 |
| macd | like mod_userdir, your rails app cant live in ~user/rails | 00:37 |
| mathiaz | macd: correct - that's documented in the passenger user guide | 00:37 |
| macd | err could live in ~user/rails, but not ~user/ | 00:37 |
| macd | I dont think thats a problem then right? | 00:38 |
| mathiaz | macd: oh no - not a showstopper | 00:39 |
| mathiaz | macd: it's documented | 00:39 |
| macd | mathiaz, does passenger-memory-status work correctly? | 00:44 |
| macd | err -stats | 00:47 |
| mathiaz | macd: in the sense that it reports the correct stats ? | 00:54 |
| mathiaz | macd: I don't know actually | 00:54 |
| macd | in the sense it works at all | 00:54 |
| macd | I get ruby errors | 00:54 |
| macd | but Im sure my ruby is suspect, as its not from the repos | 00:54 |
| mathiaz | macd: oh yes - it works | 00:55 |
| macd | The stats _are_ the actual ones, not the incorrect ps/top ones ;P | 00:55 |
| mathiaz | macd: I was able to get the stats of the server | 00:55 |
| mathiaz | macd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29147/ | 00:56 |
| macd | That looks about right | 00:56 |
| mathiaz | macd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29148/ - that's after I've hit a simple rails app | 00:57 |
| macd | http://blog.phusion.nl/2008/06/09/phusion-passenger-20-rc-1-and-ruby-enterprise-edition-released/ <-- that blog post seems to suggest the other MPM model is supported | 00:57 |
| macd | cool so it works, I was just getting ruby errors, and dont have the buntu ruby installed | 00:58 |
| * macd makes a note to setup a fresh one | 00:58 | |
| mathiaz | macd: hm - the blog post states that the worker mpm is supported now | 00:58 |
| mathiaz | macd: that's good news - however I'd like to make sure that the worker mpm is supported by passenger running the standard ruby vm | 00:59 |
| mathiaz | macd: not the EE vm | 00:59 |
| macd | Thats what Im looking into | 00:59 |
| macd | Im setting up a fresh vm | 00:59 |
| macd | btw, are you running your vm in virtualbox? (I cant boot any intrepid kernels in virtualbox) | 01:00 |
| mathiaz | macd: I'm using kvm | 01:00 |
| macd | Mine are running in s2k8 atm ;P | 01:00 |
| macd | since they boot in there | 01:00 |
| mathiaz | macd: I ran into some issue with intrepid on kvm, using no-kvmclock to boot a 2.6.26 kernel worked | 01:01 |
| Nathan406 | hello! | 01:01 |
| mathiaz | macd: but I heard that intrepid has also some issue with virtualbox | 01:01 |
| Nathan406 | Can someone help me fix my usb | 01:01 |
| mathiaz | macd: I don't know how to boot them - you could try to boot with a 2.6.24 kernel | 01:02 |
| macd | mathiaz, thats what I've been doing when I need them in there | 01:02 |
| Nathan406 | Can someone help! I cant access my flash drive from the usb port | 01:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #250655 in samba (main) "samba daemon deadlocks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250655 | 01:11 |
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| yahut | what do you think about ubuntu?? | 04:58 |
| yahut | linux ubuntu I mean............ | 04:59 |
| jeromesagisi | hello | 04:59 |
| yahut | ya........... | 05:00 |
| yahut | :) | 05:01 |
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| nxvl | soren: around? | 07:56 |
| soren | nxvl: Yup. | 07:57 |
| nxvl | soren: i have been looking for you | 07:57 |
| nxvl | soren: i have work on some merges on the virtualization side | 07:57 |
| soren | Cool. | 07:58 |
| nxvl | and i suscribed you to them | 07:58 |
| nxvl | have you noticed? | 07:58 |
| nxvl | i think it was qemu and (not mine) bochs | 07:58 |
| soren | I'm a bit behind on bug mail, so no. | 07:58 |
| nxvl | exactly what i thought | 07:58 |
| nxvl | :D | 07:59 |
| nxvl | also | 07:59 |
| nxvl | have you noticed that i applied for u-u-c? | 07:59 |
| nxvl | soren: on the motu-council list | 08:02 |
| soren | Yes, I did. | 08:06 |
| soren | I'll get to it today :) | 08:06 |
| nxvl | yeah, np | 08:07 |
| nxvl | :D | 08:07 |
| nxvl | and at last but not a least | 08:07 |
| nxvl | are you technicaly familiar with the linux boot sequence? | 08:08 |
| soren | SUre. | 08:08 |
| nxvl | have you heard about the pymouth proyect? | 08:08 |
| nxvl | project* | 08:09 |
| nxvl | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureBetterStartup | 08:09 |
| soren | No. | 08:09 |
| nxvl | well | 08:10 |
| nxvl | pymouth is a lighter and kind of better replacement for rhgb | 08:10 |
| soren | It seems to be "Plymouth", nor "pymouth", though :) | 08:10 |
| nxvl | oh yes | 08:11 |
| nxvl | my bad | 08:11 |
| nxvl | :P | 08:11 |
| nxvl | well, the thing is | 08:11 |
| nxvl | the spanish fedora community is making eco on the news all over the internet (i have read at least 4 posts this week) about Plymouth | 08:11 |
| soren | Ok. | 08:12 |
| nxvl | the odd thing is that they are saying that the boot will be inmediat | 08:13 |
| soren | Hm? Where does it say that? | 08:13 |
| nxvl | soren: exactly | 08:13 |
| nxvl | that is on all the spanish post about it | 08:14 |
| soren | Link? | 08:14 |
| nxvl | and of what i have understand | 08:14 |
| nxvl | http://linux.adslzone.net/2008/07/15/fedora-10-arrancara-al-instante/ | 08:14 |
| nxvl | they are just making quicker the grafical thing on the bootsequence, which is something we don't have on server for example | 08:15 |
| nxvl | so the init part will still be slow | 08:15 |
| nxvl | wouldn't it? | 08:15 |
| soren | That certainly seems to be the case, yes. | 08:15 |
| nxvl | actually the spanish post title are: "Fedora 10 start instantaneously" | 08:15 |
| soren | They seem to think that the boot sequence is done when you have graphics. | 08:16 |
| soren | Yeah. I wonder how they got that idea. | 08:16 |
| nxvl | which is not at any point the scope of the project, as i have understand it | 08:16 |
| nxvl | jajaj | 08:16 |
| nxvl | it's kind of funny to see people that go around saying they know a lot, and are experts make mistakes like that | 08:17 |
| soren | Yeah, it seems very odd. | 08:19 |
| nxvl | actually i'm enjoing it | 08:20 |
| nxvl | the last guy that makes the mistake is a guy that goes around saying how expert he is, and how much he knows and how less we other people know (and he has a special problem with me) and i have just posted on the almost same planet than him a technicaly detailed explanation on how that's NOT what it's comming | 08:22 |
| nxvl | so tomorrow the flamewars will start on the peruvian community | 08:23 |
| nxvl | dammit is really late | 08:23 |
| nxvl | i need to go | 08:23 |
| nxvl | soren: have a nice day! | 08:23 |
| soren | You too, Nicolas. | 08:25 |
| soren | Take care. | 08:25 |
| kraut | moin | 08:43 |
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| jmazaredo | can anyone help me on this http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-ubuntu8.04-with-software-raid1 in the part where "make all drives bootable" im using 2 IDE my ubuntu have booted just that command i cant run | 09:19 |
| _ruben | jmazaredo: you cant run grub? | 09:21 |
| jmazaredo | when i type grub i get the grub probmpt | 09:41 |
| jmazaredo | prompt | 09:41 |
| jmazaredo | but when i try to type device (hd1) /dev/sdb | 09:41 |
| jmazaredo | it says selected disk does not exist | 09:42 |
| jmazaredo | i tried it inside the bash and also "before the boot up process" | 09:43 |
| _ruben | dont think i ever used that device line .. but my guess is, that with 2 ide disks, both are master on seperate bus i hope, so they'd be sda and sdc | 09:47 |
| _ruben | http://paste.ubuntu.com/29245/ .. thats how i do it | 09:49 |
| _ruben | old doc tho | 09:50 |
| jmazaredo | i only have 1 ide slot so 1 is master and 1 is slave | 09:54 |
| jmazaredo | _ruben ty | 11:48 |
| jmazaredo | got it working now sudo grub | 11:49 |
| ivoks | i'm having this horrible desire to create full mail stack for ubuntu :D | 11:51 |
| ivoks | including quarantine, per user configuration, anti spam and anti virus protection | 11:52 |
| ivoks | and everything in mysql :) except mail, which would be in maildir, on the disk | 11:53 |
| hads | I'm sure some people would find that useful. | 11:53 |
| ivoks | all the parts are already there | 11:54 |
| hads | Yep | 11:54 |
| ivoks | we just need to combine it together | 11:54 |
| hads | I prefer to keep mail config on the disk myself. | 11:54 |
| ivoks | then just dump sql :D | 11:55 |
| hads | I do :) | 11:55 |
| ivoks | mail config like...? | 11:56 |
| hads | users etc. | 11:56 |
| ivoks | all the configs of services would be on disk, but per user configuration and quarentine would be in sql | 11:56 |
| ivoks | ah... problem with users on disk is that you need to give someone a root account so he could add new users | 11:56 |
| _ruben | ivoks: surely sounds like smth i'd want to use ;0 | 11:56 |
| _ruben | ;) | 11:56 |
| ivoks | with users in mysql you can just give away mysql access to a service (like postfixadmin) | 11:57 |
| hads | True. The problem with putting them in SQL is that your mail system relies on the SQL server. | 11:57 |
| ivoks | true, but sql servers aren't that unreliable... | 11:58 |
| ivoks | we could even provide migration tools | 11:59 |
| ivoks | now... that could be a killer-app for ubuntu-server | 12:00 |
| _ruben | definatly | 12:00 |
| ivoks | i might work on something for 9.04... | 12:00 |
| ivoks | till then we will have all tools in main... thanks to ScottK | 12:00 |
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| jmazaredo | is there a way to check the linux raid if it is copying in realtime like the command tail -f | 12:34 |
| soren | What? | 12:35 |
| soren | ivoks: I already have a setup preetty much like that. | 12:36 |
| ivoks | soren: me too, but i was thinking in providing a meta package which would set up everything | 12:37 |
| soren | ivoks: yeah. I started working a web interface for it, too, at some point, but I wanted to code it in Django, but wasn't too keen on getting Django into main. | 12:37 |
| ivoks | soren: MailZu + postfixadmin :) | 12:39 |
| ivoks | but much nicer interface would be welcome :) | 12:39 |
| ivoks | one which would integrate mailzu and postfixadmin and roundcube | 12:40 |
| soren | Yeah, that would be neat. | 12:42 |
| ivoks | going for a walk and coffe... see you at 1300UTC | 12:45 |
| sommer | kirkland: hey, I tried out your encrypted Private folder mount last night, and everything worked as advertised... cool stuff | 13:23 |
| kirkland | sommer: very nice! | 14:04 |
| kirkland | sommer: thanks! | 14:04 |
| sommer | np | 14:05 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: what's the status of the ecryptfs testing blog post ? | 15:14 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I'm pushing a patch of 8 manpages upstream | 15:14 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I'd like to get those into intrepid first | 15:15 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I'll write the post in the meantime, and just hold off publishing until then | 15:15 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #229252 in openldap (main) "slapd gssapi failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/229252 | 15:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #231321 in openldap (main) "ldap over ssl fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/231321 | 15:54 |
| mathiaz | kees: does bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap2.2/+bug/249878 apply to openldap 2.2 (dapper) ? | 15:56 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 249878 in openldap2.2 "CVE-2008-2952: BER Decoding Remote DoS Vulnerability" [Undecided,New] | 15:56 |
| _ruben | bah .. stupid ass software raid cards .. and this pos card even has a 'bugged' kernel driver, limited its 8 ports to only 4 being usable | 15:58 |
| lukehasnoname | _ruben: hack that | 15:59 |
| _ruben | lukehasnoname: not feeling like rolling my kernel .. recently a bug was filed against the (vanilla) 2.6.24 kernel addressing this problem (broadcom raidcore rc4000 series) .. card's crap anyways, tho was kinda curious what its performance would be under linux | 16:01 |
| * _ruben asks his boss for better hardware | 16:01 | |
| lukehasnoname | 3ware's the touted linux raid card brand, right? | 16:01 |
| _ruben | 3ware's sweet .. but also far more pricey .. broadcom/raidcore is cheap shit | 16:02 |
| ivoks | 3ware rulez | 16:03 |
| ivoks | not only cause of driver, but mostly cause of features and performance | 16:03 |
| ivoks | and managability | 16:03 |
| _ruben | yeah .. that is: from what i've heard .. no hands-on experience with em tho :( | 16:04 |
| ivoks | 3ware works with smatmontools, 3ware provides CLI and web tools for management | 16:05 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #250847 in redhat-cluster-suite (main) "Apache predefined script in redhat-cluster-suite is not properly setup for Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250847 | 16:06 |
| ivoks | oh, we can expect more bugs against rhcs :/ | 16:07 |
| zul | meh thanks ivoks :) | 16:08 |
| ivoks | i already decided to set up a testing env. back at home in fall and get this package into good shape | 16:09 |
| zul | ivoks: you might want to talk to fabbione as well | 16:09 |
| ivoks | of course | 16:10 |
| _ruben | hmm .. wonder how 'trivial' it'd be to 'update' canonical's vmware-server packeges .. be it for gutsy's new (-15) kernel, or even hardy | 16:12 |
| _ruben | and vmware-server itself ofcourse (1.0.4 -> 1.0.6) | 16:12 |
| macd | isnt there a server team meeting today? | 16:30 |
| soren | macd: Yes. | 16:30 |
| soren | It's in #ubuntu-meeting. | 16:30 |
| macd | k thx | 16:30 |
| gegema | If another user is logged into the server while I am also logged in, what utility can I use to send a message to that user via the terminal? [other than wall] | 16:39 |
| soren | write | 16:41 |
| ahasenack | is anybody else having a "grub installation error" with intrepid alpha 2 (server) and also the daily server iso? | 16:45 |
| sommer | ahasenack: I did actually... amd64? | 16:45 |
| ahasenack | sommer: no, both kvm/qemu and a real P4 | 16:45 |
| sommer | ahasenack: ah, not sure... and I may have had a bad CD, but I haven't done more testing | 16:46 |
| sommer | ahasenack: did you try lilo? | 16:46 |
| ahasenack | sommer: no, is there a lilo option within the installer? | 16:46 |
| sommer | ahasenack: ya, once grub fails go back and there should be an option for lilo | 16:47 |
| ahasenack | sommer: ok, I can try that | 16:47 |
| ivoks | ahasenack: what's the size of the disk you are installing on? | 16:47 |
| ahasenack | ivoks: 20G | 16:48 |
| ivoks | ok | 16:49 |
| ahasenack | ivoks: and 1G inside kvm/qemu | 16:49 |
| ivoks | that's ok | 16:50 |
| _ruben | Generating locales... en_US.UTF-8... | 16:55 |
| _ruben | that isnt supposed to take minutes or is it ? | 16:55 |
| _ruben | on dual opteron 2ghz | 16:55 |
| ahasenack | sommer: lilo failed too | 16:58 |
| ahasenack | sommer: it's weird | 16:58 |
| sommer | ahasenack: is there any log entries in alt+f4 ? | 16:58 |
| ahasenack | it says "lilo is already the newest version", and then proceeds to setup grub | 16:58 |
| ahasenack | finally reports that dpkg returned an error code (1) while processing grub | 16:59 |
| ahasenack | and lilo-installer: says that calling apt-install lilo failed | 16:59 |
| sommer | ahasenack: mmmm... you might try asking in #ubuntu-installer and see if they have more ideas | 16:59 |
| ahasenack | I can probably attach these logs to a lp ticket, I was just checking if this was known | 16:59 |
| sommer | ahasenack: ya, a bug is probably a good idea, but folks in #ubuntu-installer may have more info | 17:00 |
| ahasenack | sommer: ok, thanks | 17:00 |
| sommer | ahasenack: np | 17:01 |
| macd | ok, now is fine too | 17:03 |
| persia | On the other hand, I'd be happy to answer (user-level) discussions about ruby gems here | 17:03 |
| macd | persia, what is your take on the problem? | 17:04 |
| soren | So the problem only affects gems that wants you to call them directly? | 17:04 |
| macd | persia, were really up against a wall here trying to find some common ground fix | 17:04 |
| persia | macd: gems are inherently broken, and if someone wants to use one, it ought be packaged. | 17:04 |
| macd | persia, thats where Im at right now, just install gems from source and forget the debian way | 17:04 |
| macd | but that doesnt do much to get a rails stack in ubuntu the debian way | 17:04 |
| macd | I need about 10 minutes to go down the hall, but I'll be right back | 17:05 |
| soren | Those are different issues, surely? | 17:05 |
| soren | I'll be gone by then, but back tomorrow. | 17:05 |
| persia | My opinion aside, the best fix is likely to have a README specifying that those wishing to use unpackaged gems with sudo installation ought adjust the path in /etc/environment. | 17:05 |
| macd | well I guess I can wait | 17:05 |
| macd | persia, cant we just do that with postinst? | 17:06 |
| macd | nvm | 17:06 |
| macd | opposite | 17:06 |
| persia | No. Packages are not permitted to alter files that don't belong to them in an automated manner. | 17:06 |
| macd | what about some automated way of building gems from the gem repositories? | 17:06 |
| macd | and just have those going into -updates or -backports? | 17:06 |
| persia | There is some discussion of allowing careful manipulation of other packages conffiles as proxy for user modification, but even this is technically a violation of policy. | 17:06 |
| macd | persia, yeah debian policy is kind've holding my hands back | 17:07 |
| persia | Well, most gems might be able to be processed by an automated packaging solution. Mind you, nobody has yet written an automated packaging solution that didn't end up breaking everything after a while. | 17:07 |
| macd | persia, for sure | 17:07 |
| persia | Debian policy is a good thing. It makes the system work. Without it, most things would break. | 17:08 |
| macd | persia, I agree whole | 17:08 |
| persia | So, long-term I'd recommend the same treatment as for CPAN or the cheeseshop: get everything interesting packaged. | 17:08 |
| macd | the bones for a rails app gem wise, rails, mysql, or pgsql, and rails deps | 17:09 |
| persia | This further allows control over versions: my experience with Rails is that there are usually two or three version incompatibilities in any given stack of gems one may wish, and one needs to mangle local plugin directories. | 17:09 |
| macd | persia, yeah at least were not trying to package rmagick right ;P | 17:09 |
| persia | Doing that at a distro level provides a much better experience to the developer. While they may not get the newest features, at least everything works, and they can concentrate on their app, rather than on rails. | 17:10 |
| macd | persia, I tend to agree | 17:10 |
| macd | the version of rails and gems in intrepid now are new enough to have all the real fixes | 17:10 |
| * persia did a 2-month web app system in RoR over a period of 6 months including 4 rewrites because the client wanted new features before calling it a bad day, so may be a bit bitter about this | 17:11 | |
| macd | persia, I feel your pain | 17:11 |
| macd | I had a client halfway thtough decide they wanted rails2 b/c someone said it was "cool" | 17:11 |
| persia | macd: Of course, my recommend solution means lots of packaging work for you :) | 17:11 |
| macd | persia, yeah fun ;) | 17:11 |
| macd | I think when Neil gets back from vacation we should have a quick discuss about gems again | 17:12 |
| macd | in the meantime thanks for chiming in | 17:12 |
| macd | Could you have a look at the mod_rails package in REVU? | 17:12 |
| macd | there are 2 changes I know need to be made, but after those are done, we'd like to get it in | 17:12 |
| macd | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=passenger | 17:13 |
| persia | Erm, perhaps later | 17:13 |
| macd | thx | 17:13 |
| * persia runs away in search of a short TODO list | 17:13 | |
| macd | I've gotta get some work done too | 17:13 |
| timboy | i'm having an interesting issue: I logged in today and my LAN ip was getting dhcp instead of static even though I have it set for static! this is relevent info from syslog http://pastebin.ca/1079630 | 17:55 |
| kmaynard | anyone running pure-ftpd? | 18:09 |
| * delcoyote hi | 18:13 | |
| kmaynard | i'm trying to figure out how to pass arguments to pure-ftpd at startup | 18:15 |
| sommer | kmaynard: is there a /etc/default/pure-ftpd file, or something similar ? | 18:22 |
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| kmaynard | sommer, nope | 19:16 |
| n-iCe | hello | 19:18 |
| kees | mathiaz, kirkland: for the grub bits of degraded raid booting, I think the review should be me, evand, cjwatson | 19:20 |
| kees | mathiaz, kirkland: for the initramfs bits of degraded raid booting, me, luke, cjwatson | 19:20 |
| kirkland | kees: cool, thanks for the clarification | 19:20 |
| kees | kirkland: i.e. bug cjwatson last. :) | 19:21 |
| kirkland | kees: good point ;-) | 19:21 |
| n-iCe | does ubuntu-server includes the ubuntu drivers? | 19:22 |
| lukehasnoname | does #ubuntu-chat exist? | 19:30 |
| n-iCe | i installed ubuntuserver and it doesn't load, just reboot and reaboot, when says grub loading... | 19:40 |
| n-iCe | anyone? | 19:40 |
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| Buzzons | hi -- anyone here had experiance with having 2 subnets on the same interface (eht0 and eth0:1) | 21:51 |
| Deeps | lol | 21:56 |
| Buzzons | hey deeps :P | 21:56 |
| Buzzons | how goes real life | 21:56 |
| Deeps | richer and more boring | 21:57 |
| Deeps | what are you trying to do? | 21:57 |
| Deeps | and eitherway, you'd be better off using vlans (and linux does understand the concept of multiple vlans on a single interface) | 21:58 |
| Buzzons | i have two /28s, one is working fine -- just wanted to set up my 2nd to go router->server ->wireless (allowing me to control it a bit better) | 21:58 |
| Buzzons | so i set up my router to have 2 subnets on one interfae (all fine) | 21:58 |
| Buzzons | set up eth0 and eth0:1(virtual interface) | 21:59 |
| Buzzons | if i do ping -I eth0 www.google.com it works, but if i do ping -I eth0:1 www.google.com it fails | 21:59 |
| Buzzons | i can ping both eth0 and eth0:1 from other machines on the eth0 subnet (tracert to the eth0:1 shows it hopping over the router) | 21:59 |
| Deeps | could be routing, do you have a default route defined for that subnet? | 22:01 |
| Buzzons | each subnet has a default gateway set in the /interfaces config | 22:01 |
| Buzzons | other than that -- no | 22:01 |
| Deeps | wget -O /dev/stdout -q -4 --bind-address=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx http://whatismyip.org | 22:02 |
| Deeps | see what comes out from both | 22:02 |
| Buzzons | where xxx. is the ip etc | 22:02 |
| Deeps | uh huh | 22:02 |
| Buzzons | the eth0 one works | 22:04 |
| Buzzons | the eht0:1 doesn't | 22:04 |
| Deeps | sounds like it could be routing related, can you ping another host in the same subnet though eth0:1 | 22:06 |
| Deeps | ? | 22:06 |
| Buzzons | sec i find out | 22:06 |
| Buzzons | eyp | 22:07 |
| Buzzons | yep, i can ping the gateway of that subnet from it | 22:07 |
| Buzzons | (from eth0:1 i can ping both subnet gateways) | 22:07 |
| Deeps | given that both are gateways are on the same machine | 22:08 |
| dana_good2 | buzzons, aren't you normally supposed to set the physical interfaces to no address if you're using virtual interfaces? | 22:08 |
| Deeps | and you dont have any proper segregation between them, thats to be expected | 22:08 |
| Buzzons | Deeps :: the gateway ip's of the router | 22:08 |
| Buzzons | it can also ping out of the subnet (to the other one) | 22:08 |
| dana_good2 | so instead of having eth0 and eth0:1, you'd have eth0:0 and eth0:1 | 22:08 |
| Buzzons | humm.. maybe? | 22:09 |
| Deeps | that could be it, otherwise my money's on it being routing related | 22:09 |
| Buzzons | houw would i fix the routing issue if it is that? | 22:09 |
| dana_good2 | Deeps: i think routing issues might be why you're supposed to set it up the way i suggested | 22:09 |
| Deeps | sounds logical | 22:09 |
| Deeps | try it dana's way, saves me the hassle :) | 22:10 |
| Buzzons | route add default gw subnet1 eth0 | 22:10 |
| Buzzons | route add default gw subnet2 eth0 | 22:10 |
| Buzzons | ? | 22:10 |
| Buzzons | ** | 22:10 |
| Buzzons | route add default gw subnet2 eth0:1 | 22:10 |
| Buzzons | where subnet1/2 is replaced with the ip of the gateway for that subnet? | 22:10 |
| Buzzons | or... should i try with the eth0:0 and eth0:1 -- was only doin it the way i was due to a guide on the net | 22:11 |
| Buzzons | tried adding two default gw routes -- no luck on the eth0:1 | 22:14 |
| Buzzons | I'll try what dana said -- may work -- but can't tonight | 22:17 |
| Buzzons | thank you for the help | 22:17 |
| kees | kirkland: the ssl memory leak in apache, was that only in intrepid, or was it found in all releases? | 23:47 |
| kirkland | kees: hmm, let me check the bug to refresh my memory | 23:48 |
| kirkland | kees: do you have the # handy? | 23:48 |
| kees | https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=44975 | 23:48 |
| uvirtbot | issues.apache.org bug 44975 in mod_ssl "memory leak with mod_ssl and zlib compression" [Normal,Needinfo] | 23:49 |
| kees | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/224945 | 23:49 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 224945 in apache2 "[SRU] memory leaks in apache2 when running mod_ssl" [High,Fix released] | 23:49 |
| kees | kirkland: you mentioned something about gutsy, but then openssl wasn't the root cause, so I wanted to double-check. | 23:50 |
| kirkland | kees: ah, yes, definitely not openssl's problem | 23:51 |
| kirkland | kees: absolutely a problem with Apache, that was fixed upstream | 23:51 |
| kirkland | kees: and we cherry picked that fix for Hardy | 23:52 |
| kees | kirkland: yeah. I'm just trying to understand if it was a problem with feisty/gutsy too. (a CVE was assigned for this issue, as it turns out) | 23:52 |
| kirkland | kees: to be honest, I never tested Feisty/Gutsy | 23:53 |
| kirkland | kees: however, if you have a KVM, it's absolutely trivial to test | 23:53 |
| kirkland | kees: see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/224945/comments/13 | 23:53 |
| kees | kirkland: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/224945/comments/8 says you tried dapper through gutsy? | 23:53 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 224945 in apache2 "[SRU] memory leaks in apache2 when running mod_ssl" [High,Fix released] | 23:53 |
| kirkland | kees: duh...... | 23:54 |
| kirkland | kees: okay, then i believe myself :-) | 23:54 |
| kirkland | kees: yeah, openssl was a red herring | 23:54 |
| kirkland | kees: the problem was definitely in Apache | 23:54 |
| kees | kirkland: but I wasn't sure if that meant you ran some openssl-specific test or the one from comment 13 | 23:54 |
| kirkland | kees: all of the testing I did was with ab (apache bench) | 23:54 |
| kees | kirkland: okay, sweet, so it sounds like gutsy needs this backported too. | 23:55 |
| kees | this is an interesting corner-case... | 23:55 |
| kees | I have a security-affecting fix already in -updates... and I have to do a backport to gutsy. I guess I need to pocket-copy the -updates one, and then publish the gutsy fix. | 23:55 |
| kees | hm | 23:55 |
| kirkland | woohoo.... patch sent upstream for 20 new/modified ecryptfs manpages!!! | 23:58 |
| * kirkland 's documentation duties are hereby DONE for a while ;-) | 23:59 | |
| kirkland | mathiaz: ping | 23:59 |
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