[00:00] <Aliksy> in the "command" field I put... what I would normally type in the terminal after the full path?
[00:01] <Aliksy> wait, got it
[00:02] <Aliksy> java -jar \filepath\file made more sense
[00:31] <Aliksy> Whoo. Things working.
[00:44] <Aquina> Does someone in here use brasero?
[00:44] <Aquina> I need some help, please.
[00:44] <Aquina> :-)
[01:02] <uouou> Aquina: eh, sudo apt-get install k3b :P
[01:03] <Aquina> :-)
[01:03] <Aquina> Thanks but that's not the solution I had in mind.
[01:04] <leche> Aquina, maybe describe your prob
[01:06] <Aquina> (On initial screen after Brasero startup): How can I erase all "recently opened projects"?
[01:07] <Aquina> These littel boxes ae actually just links but they perve on purpose anymore cause the files they refer to were already deleted.
[01:49] <Aquina> Got an idea ,leche?
[01:51] <leche> hmmm
[01:51] <leche> no, sry
[02:32] <Aquina> kk
[03:11] <xaer0> hello
[03:12] <xaer0> another score for Linux users who get Vista from a OEM: http://equiliberate.org/?q=node/3
[03:12] <xaer0> 200 buck refund from HP
[03:16] <xaer0> makes me want to get a laptop then a refund fro 200 bucks :L)
[03:20] <xaer0> so i got to say Xubuntu + Compiz + Emerald is fast and pretty :)
[03:20] <j1mc> :]
[03:24] <xaer0> i also have OpenGEU which doesnt like Compiz or Emerald.. but thats okay. I think Enlightenment is more so eyecandy than KDE or Gnome
[03:25] <xaer0> OpenGEU is just ubuntu using Gnome and E17.. quite pretty but some what of a resource hog.
[03:26] <xaer0> thats why XFCE is good but Fluxbox hardly takes 10MB of Ram to run :)
[03:26] <xaer0> Fluxbox just needs some really good gui based config programs
[03:30] <evilbug> how is it that after i install xubuntu and reboot, i get a No Bootable Device error?
[03:32] <j1mc> evilbug: is it a grub error?
[03:32] <xaer0> or BIOS error?
[03:32] <j1mc> are you dual-booting, or just single-booting?
[03:32] <evilbug> dual boot and it's the 3rd time.
[03:32] <j1mc> yeah, sounds like an error from the bios.
[03:33] <j1mc> evilbug: what kind of dual boot?  all on one hard drive?
[03:33] <evilbug> yes.
[03:33] <evilbug> macbook pro.
[03:33] <evilbug> it's worked fine before.
[03:33] <j1mc> hm.  i take it you can boot into the mac os?
[03:33] <xaer0> BIOS.. dont know much about Mach
[03:33] <evilbug> yes.
[03:33] <xaer0> *Macs
[03:33] <evilbug> it's the third time tried installing it.
[03:34] <xaer0> its gotta be a command in GRUB
[03:34] <j1mc> when did it work fine before?
[03:34] <j1mc> with xubuntu?
[03:34] <evilbug> yesterday.
[03:34] <xaer0> you got a Super Grub Boot Disk?
[03:34] <xaer0> or a System Restore Disk?
[03:34] <xaer0> those are some nice Linux based live CDs with a ton of tools
[03:34] <evilbug> i just have a xubuntu live cd and gparted live cd.
[03:35] <ISEE-xubuntu> Anyone have problems where xfce panels just close out of nowhere?
[03:35] <xaer0> it seems that GRUB command may be out of place or a command isnt specified right
[03:36] <xaer0> like -vga=790
[03:36] <xaer0> or something to that effect
[03:36] <xaer0> can you see or paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[03:36] <j1mc> ISEE-xubuntu: i don't have that problem, but i've heard of it occuring.
[03:37] <xaer0> evilbug: i know i had some problems with a triple boot, Suse 11, Xubuntu, and WinXp sp3.
[03:38] <evilbug> i'm going to try reinstalling grub.
[03:38] <xaer0> it seems that would be best.. make sure it reports you root correctly
[03:38] <evilbug> k
[03:39] <xaer0> i know that was a common problem with my triple boot
[03:39] <j1mc> ISEE-xubuntu: you can type 'xfce4-panel' into a terminal, and they will return
[03:39] <xaer0> listing the wrongs.. either it was the (hd0,1) or the sda1
[03:39] <j1mc> but i think this problem has something to do with the xfce4-session
[03:39] <j1mc> there's a bug in it.
[03:39] <xaer0> something to those effects evilbug
[03:40] <j1mc> ISEE-xubuntu: press alt-f2, and then enter xfce4-panel into the box.
[03:40] <ISEE-xubuntu> j1mc: I do, but why would it just just close
[03:41] <ISEE-xubuntu> is there something I can do to fix it?
[03:42] <cody-somerville> ISEE-xubuntu, yes but it would be a lot of work
[03:42] <cody-somerville> and not fun
[03:42] <j1mc> cody-somerville: thanks for stopping in.  :]  i thought of your comments in our meeting when this came up.
[03:42] <cody-somerville> what meeting?
[03:42] <xaer0> i have a bug with Emerald + Compiz in Xubuntu 8.04.. quite annoying. Emerald half the time wont load on boot
[03:43] <cody-somerville> and what comments?
[03:43] <j1mc> cody-somerville: in the last xubuntu meeting, you talked about how xfce4-session causes problems with the panels.
[03:43] <j1mc> iirc.
[03:43] <cody-somerville> ah
[03:44] <j1mc> xaer0: there's a pretty good blog guide to effectively setting up compiz in xubuntu.
[03:44] <xaer0> j1mc: followed that blog 100%
[03:45] <xaer0> it maybe because im also running Avant Windows Navigator too
[03:45] <j1mc> compiz on xubuntu is still a little tricky for me, but if no one else here can help, you can post a message to the xubuntu-users mailing list.
[03:46] <xaer0> Emerald does run.. but i have to do Ctrl+Alt+Backspace a few times
[03:46] <xaer0> or have to log out completely
[03:47] <xaer0> a few times... i have also wondered i have "Saved Sessions for Future Logins" enabled on the logout chooser
[03:47] <xaer0> if that would be causing the problems as well
[03:49] <j1mc> xaer0: sorry, i'm not quite as familier with the intricacies of compiz and other non-default items.
[03:49] <j1mc> sorry i can't be of more help.
[03:50] <xaer0> thats okay.. linux is stable enof were i dont have to worry about it restarting for years LOL
[03:50] <xaer0> i heard of Linux Servers and workstations havent been restarted for over 10yrs
[03:52] <xaer0> thats for the help :-D
[03:52] <xaer0> *thanks
[03:52] <j1mc> np.  good luck!!
[04:08] <deadweight> can anyone help me get skype working on xubuntu 8.04?
[04:09] <deadweight> it seems to think theres something wrong with my audio device
[04:10] <PsynoKhi0> as in?
[04:12] <PsynoKhi0> error message? non-functioning test call?
[04:14] <deadweight> error msg when someone tries to call
[04:14] <deadweight> "problem with audio capture" I believe
[04:19] <PsynoKhi0> how did you install Skype?
[04:20] <PsynoKhi0> from their homepage with gDebi?
[04:20] <deadweight> their homepage
[04:25] <PsynoKhi0> sry Enlightenment kicked me to loggin screen
[04:25] <deadweight> s'ok
[04:25] <deadweight> I got it from the homepage
[04:25] <PsynoKhi0> do you have the sound applet on your taskbar?
[04:26] <deadweight> yes
[04:26] <PsynoKhi0> I mean the volume control applet
[04:26] <deadweight> yeah
[04:26] <deadweight> the little volume bar with a speaker next to it
[04:26] <PsynoKhi0> ok if you click on the icon and check that everything you need is up and running
[04:27] <deadweight> hmmm. lots of bars seem to be all the way down, which do I need?
[04:29] <PsynoKhi0> from left yo right, 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11... no ok I'm BSing you :) dunno depends on what you have there
[04:30] <deadweight> XD, I see, so is there a way to find out or should I just start testing them?
[04:30] <PsynoKhi0> you should have a way to see what controls are displayed, like, from first menu (not using Xfce right now plus my sound sin't properly working sry can't heck)
[04:31] <PsynoKhi0> check*
[04:31] <PsynoKhi0> a good start is everything related to your microphone
[04:32] <deadweight> k I just turned everythin up alittle bit
[04:32] <deadweight> looks like it didn't change anything
[04:32] <PsynoKhi0> then check your Sjype preferences
[04:32] <PsynoKhi0> Skype*
[04:33] <deadweight> ok, anything in particular I should look for?
[04:33] <PsynoKhi0> the sound devices
[04:34] <PsynoKhi0> if it's ALSA something something
[04:34] <PsynoKhi0> or at least something that matches your sound system
[04:35] <deadweight> everything is default, should I look for my sound card or assume it knows what its talking about?
[04:35] <deadweight> iits ablet o make noise, just not call
[04:35] <deadweight> *its able
[04:35] <PsynoKhi0> assuming you didn't play around with the basic setup I mean
[04:35] <deadweight> nope
[04:36] <PsynoKhi0> hang on, switching to a comp with Skype on it...
[04:36] <deadweight> k
[04:41] <PsynoKhi0> ok what options do you have in sound devices?
[04:42] <deadweight> sound in,sound out, ringing, all default
[04:42] <deadweight> tests, and then the option to let skype control my mixers
[04:44] <PsynoKhi0> and what's the exact error message?
[04:45] <deadweight> when I try to make a call "problem with Audio Playback"
[04:47] <PsynoKhi0> what are the other options you get from the Sound out/in drop-down menus?
[04:48] <deadweight> SBLive! Value [CT4780] (hw:Live, 0)
[04:49] <deadweight> SBLive! Value [CT4780] (plughw:Live, 0)
[04:49] <deadweight> SBLive! Value [CT4780] (hw:Live, 1)
[04:49] <deadweight> etc
[04:49] <deadweight> down to 3
[04:50] <PsynoKhi0> how about switching to (hw:Live, 0)?
[04:50] <deadweight> I'll try it
[04:51] <deadweight> seems to have worked, now I feel stupid XD, thanks a bunch dude
[04:52] <PsynoKhi0> np *hugs google*
[04:53] <deadweight> lol, well thanks again, peace
[04:53] <PsynoKhi0> http://forum.skype.com/lofiversion/index.php/t89969.html
[04:53] <PsynoKhi0> ;)
[05:01] <bassboi> hey, is there something i can use to watch the transfer rate of data from a usb hdd to my OS hdd?!
[05:01] <bassboi> like vista, i guess
[06:01] <bassboi> another thing, i try and boot a xubuntu and ubuntu live CD on another PC, and it gives me a terminal
[06:01] <bassboi> intermg or something
[06:18] <PsynoKhi0> is there a way to make gtk themes persistent across WMs/DEs?
[06:19] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: what do you mean by persistent?
[06:20] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: like, I have the Tango icons and the Industrial theme in XFCE, I'd like to have them still even if I log on to iceWM or Enlightenment
[06:21] <PsynoKhi0> or w/e windows manager I feel like using
[06:21] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: each desktop environment has its own configuration files
[06:21] <TheSheep> incompatible with each other
[06:21] <TheSheep> so you have to set up each one separately
[06:24] <PsynoKhi0> ah
[06:24] <PsynoKhi0> oh well
[06:54] <PsynoKhi0> solved
[06:54] <PsynoKhi0> more or less
[06:55] <PsynoKhi0> a file names .gtkrc-2.0 in home folder and tadaa
[06:55] <PsynoKhi0> named*
[06:55] <PsynoKhi0> firestarter doesn't seem interested but w/e
[09:19] <PsynoKhi0> any sound card expert around?
[11:01] <bassboi> sayy
[11:01] <bassboi> im trying to ./configure alsa drivers..
[11:01] <bassboi> C compiler cannot create executables
[11:02] <TheSheep> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:03] <AlexCONRAD> should build-essential be part of the minimal ?
[11:03] <AlexCONRAD> I feel like I'll always need it a time or another
[11:03] <TheSheep> no, ubuntu normally doesn't come with al the compilation tools
[11:03] <bassboi> ah ok
[11:03] <TheSheep> it's not geared for developers
[11:04] <AlexCONRAD> yeah, I'm comming from fedora, I guess its different
[11:04] <bassboi> tyvm
[11:04] <bassboi> that'll save me some frustration in the future too
[11:05] <TheSheep> AlexCONRAD: fedora seems to be mostly for admins
[11:05] <AlexCONRAD> yeah
[11:05] <AlexCONRAD> that makes ubunty a less skilled community
[11:05] <AlexCONRAD> but you get more feedback
[11:06] <AlexCONRAD> which implies that documentation and more ressources are be available out there
[11:08] <AlexCONRAD> under a firefox download progress window, when I right click and choose "open containing folder", I get "choose launch application" pop-up. What should I choose there ?
[11:09] <bassboi> thunar in there?
[11:10] <AlexCONRAD> I get a file system browser
[11:10] <bassboi> wtf
[11:10] <bassboi> i get the same thing u get
[11:11] <AlexCONRAD> ok, as I have a customized xubuntu CD, I wanted to make sure this was "normal"
[11:11] <bassboi> i wish one of my liveCDs worked
[11:12] <bassboi> so i could edit my partition table
[11:13] <bassboi> if i do ./configure, and make, on something i wanna install, but not make install, does it change system settings?
[11:13] <bassboi> or not unless i do sudo make install
[11:14] <AlexCONRAD> bassboi: no, it doesn't
[11:14] <AlexCONRAD> ./configure scans your system and generates a Makefile holding your system's data
[11:14] <bassboi> ok
[11:14] <AlexCONRAD> make compiles the source files into binary files
[11:14] <bassboi> i see
[11:15] <bassboi> then install just like, injects it into the system?
[11:15] <AlexCONRAD> "make install" installs (copy) them in your system
[11:15] <bassboi> oh ok
[11:15] <bassboi> :)
[11:15] <bassboi>  tyvm
[11:16] <bassboi> i was wondering, cuz i can't get synaptic to open
[11:16] <AlexCONRAD> ./configure will attempt to detect where your system is
[11:16] <bassboi> unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file
[11:17] <bassboi> failed to run as user root
[11:18] <AlexCONRAD> sudo ?
[11:18] <AlexCONRAD> sudo [my command]
[11:19] <AlexCONRAD> makes [my command] run as root
[11:24] <bassboi> weird
[11:24] <bassboi> brb
[11:56] <Kardoso> hi
[11:57] <Kardoso> hi
[11:58] <Kardoso> Has Xubuntu any visual effects like as Ubuntu?
[11:59] <TheSheep> it has shadows and translucent panels/window decorations
[11:59] <Kardoso> ok, thanks
[11:59] <TheSheep> you can also install compiz for it to have all the fancy 3d stuff
[11:59] <Kardoso> ok
[12:00] <Kardoso> If I install Xubuntu in OEM mode then I have write the name, pass, etc at the first start?
[12:00] <TheSheep> yes
[12:00] <Kardoso> Great.
[12:01] <Kardoso> Is it similiar like that the computer manufacturers using?
[12:01] <Kardoso> (for OEM notebooks)
[12:03] <Kardoso> Where is the file manager in Xubuntu? I saw Nautilus in Ubuntu, I like it, but I could not find it in Xubuntu. Please help me
[12:06] <Kardoso> Has Xubuntu any file managers?
[12:11] <TheSheep> Thunar
[12:12] <Kardoso> sorry. I had connection lost
[12:12] <Kardoso> TheSheep please repeat your last message
[12:13] <TheSheep> Kardoso: thunar is the default file manager in xubuntu
[12:13] <Kardoso> Ok, thanks
[12:15] <bassboi> oh damn. i need to resize partiton but livecd gparted tells me hdd is locked i guess... has keys next to it and automounts the partitions
[12:26] <TheSheep> bassboi: disable automounting in settings
[12:27] <bassboi> gparted settins?
[12:34] <ere4si> 5g for /, 250mb for swap, the rest for /home is what I'd use bassboi
[12:39] <bassboi> ok
[12:39] <bassboi> brb
[12:44] <bassboi> tyvm TheSheep
[12:44] <bassboi> workin now
[12:46] <Kardoso> TheSheep: What are is in "Lost+Found" directory? Why are this directory locked?
[12:53] <TheSheep> Kardoso: all files that somehow become lost (because of filesystem damage) are put in there
[12:54] <Kardoso> TheSheep: How can I view that directory?
[12:55] <TheSheep> Kardoso: as root, you can start thunar with 'gksu thunar' for example, but be careful what you do with it, you can damage your system as root
[12:58] <Kardoso> TheSheep: How? How can I login as root? (sorry, i'm just starter in Linux)
[12:59] <TheSheep> Kardoso: you can't login as root
[13:00] <TheSheep> Kardoso: just run thunar as rott with the command I gave you
[13:00] <Kardoso> So should I type 'gksu thunar' to Terminal?
[13:01] <TheSheep> yes
[13:02] <Kardoso> Ok. thanks
[13:02] <TheSheep> and then it will ask you for your password
[13:02] <Kardoso> ok
[13:04] <Kardoso> Im going to try it now. Thank you for the all help. Have a nice day, good bye.
[13:06] <Kardoso> TheSheep: Hi again, I'm so sorry but I'm forgot the command that you said (i didnt write it to anywhere).
[13:06] <Kardoso> TheSheep: Please, can you repeat the command?
[13:06] <bassboi> gksu thunar
[13:06] <bassboi> ?
[13:07] <Kardoso> bassboi: thank you very much
[13:07] <bassboi> no problem
[13:07] <Kardoso> I write it to a paper immediately
[13:07] <bassboi> TheSheep is slow sometimes
[13:07] <bassboi> :-P
[13:07] <Kardoso> before I forget again :)
[13:08] <Kardoso> Ok, I wroted it ;)
[13:08] <bassboi> [06:55:56] [TheSheep]: Kardoso: as root, you can start thunar with 'gksu thunar' for example, but be careful what you do with it, you can damage your system as root
[13:08] <Kardoso> thanks
[13:08] <Kardoso> well, then now I go to try it
[13:08] <Kardoso> (with the paper :) )
[13:09] <Kardoso> have a nice day, good bye
[13:12] <bassboi> more coffee
[13:13] <bassboi> hey whats the most u can stay up on caffiene
[13:14] <TheSheep> I did 32h of programming once, but no coffee back then
[13:15] <TheSheep> but that's better for #xubuntu-offtopic
[13:15] <bassboi> more active discussion there right now?!
[13:53] <bassboi> man it takes 3 hrs to resize a partition?!
[13:54] <TheSheep> if it's big and has little free space, then it might
[13:55] <TheSheep> it has to move data around
[13:55] <AlexCONRAD> like defrag under Windows
[13:55] <bassboi> i see i see
[13:56] <bassboi> i just checked it, it had to like, shrink the filesystem, check it, resize partition, check it, grow filesystem to fill partition, check it, then move data or whatever to the right
[13:57] <bassboi> sorry for all the questions, but on my other system, ubuntu and xubuntu 8.04 boots the liveCD to the desktop, but there's 2 desktops... one is at the screen resolution, and the other is shifted slightly down, and about 2 inches to the right, and rather transparent so it's hard to make out the text... although, the mythbuntu 7.10 CD I have boots fine to the desktop
[13:57] <bassboi> the fuck?
[13:58] <TheSheep> !ohmy
[13:59] <bassboi> sorry :(
[13:59] <TheSheep> I had something similar to what you describe when my system thought I have a tv connected
[13:59] <AlexCONRAD> what's the story about release numbers ? X.04, X.10 ?
[14:00] <TheSheep> AlexCONRAD: year and month
[14:00] <AlexCONRAD> ah
[14:00] <TheSheep> !schedule
[14:00] <AlexCONRAD> TheSheep: aah, it's here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[14:01] <bassboi> TheSheep if you don't mind answering, how'd you fix it
[14:01] <TheSheep> bassboi: I disabled tvout in my xorg.conf
[14:02] <bassboi> you were using onboard video at the time, correct?
[14:02] <TheSheep> bassboi: it's a laptop
[14:02] <bassboi> ahh, i see
[14:03] <bassboi> because this PC is just a mATX mobo, p4 3.4, 1gb of RAM.. everything onboard
[14:04] <TheSheep> bassboi: relevant parts of my xorg.conf: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/80042/
[14:04] <TheSheep> bassboi: you might also try playing with xrand
[14:05] <bassboi> ok
[16:04] <eshat> @ALL: Is there a file that logs me out graphically (from gnome or xfce) ?
[16:05] <cody-somerville> sure
[16:05] <cody-somerville> xfce4-session-logout I believe
[17:24] <AlexCONRAD> hey, I'm insterested by the "fglrx-control" package (control panel)
[17:25] <AlexCONRAD> so I installed it
[17:25] <AlexCONRAD> but I can't find it under my menu
[17:25] <AlexCONRAD> where would it be ?
[17:26] <AlexCONRAD> oh, I was able to open it by typing "amdcccle"
[17:28] <bassboi> ok a few problems... :|
[17:29] <bassboi> the tray area on the top panel, is all the way to the left against the applications menu... how i get it back to the right...
[17:30] <bassboi> and something is up, cuz now it says, "Xfce Menu" instead of Applications... i believe it has something to do with the window manager too... because when I log in, I don't have any titlebars, minimize, maximize, and close buttons on the top of the programs
[17:30] <bassboi> i have to start compiz fusion to get them
[17:32] <bassboi> ok i got the tray area to be on the left side
[18:19] <bassboi> bah
[18:21] <bassboi> xfce doesn't friggin fully load when i log in
[18:21] <bassboi> no title/minimize/close bar on top of windows
[18:37] <taime1> is xfce heavily modified in xubuntu?
[18:39] <taime1> and does it rely on gnome?
[18:40] <cody-somerville> taime1, it does not rely on gnome
[18:40] <cody-somerville> taime1, and it isn't *heavily* modified
[18:41] <taime1> is totem a gnome media player? or is it independent of gnome? and lastly, (sorry for the questions) did they really remove the right click menu? can we reenable it?
[18:42] <cody-somerville> Totem is not a gnome media player. It is independent of gnome. and yes you can
[18:43] <taime1> thank you very much
[18:44] <taime1> im very interested in xubuntu, i just didnt want to use it if all those gnome libraries were installed.. may as well use ubuntu in that case...
[19:04] <AlexCONRAD> I installed gnome-screensaver, but I only have a few screensavers listed (like 4 or 5). How do I get the full list ?
[19:04] <n-iCe> hello
[19:04] <n-iCe> !xubuntu-server
[19:04] <n-iCe> is there a xubuntu server, right?
[19:04] <AlexCONRAD> !screensaver
[19:05] <AlexCONRAD> !screen saver
[19:05] <AlexCONRAD> n-iCe: xubuntu runs under xfce
[19:05] <AlexCONRAD> !xfce
[19:06] <n-iCe> I see
[19:06] <charlie-tca> n-iCe: There is no specific Xubuntu server edition
[19:06] <AlexCONRAD> ah, you meant a "server" edition
[19:06] <AlexCONRAD> sorry
[19:06] <n-iCe> yeah
[19:06] <charlie-tca> Servers are normally run without a desktop
[19:07] <n-iCe> all the xubuntus have desktop interface?
[19:07] <AlexCONRAD> n-iCe: yes, AFAIK
[19:07] <n-iCe> I see
[19:07] <charlie-tca> yes, Xubuntu is ubuntu with the Xfce desktop and other changes
[19:07] <AlexCONRAD> Kubuntu is with KDE desktop
[19:08] <n-iCe> I see
[19:08] <AlexCONRAD> !gnome-screensaver
[19:08] <n-iCe> I am installing it, xubuntu alternate
[19:08] <n-iCe> or something like that, what can you tell me about it?
[19:08] <AlexCONRAD> alternate is the non-live edition
[19:09] <AlexCONRAD> means it will be installed on your disk
[19:09] <n-iCe> awesome
[19:09] <n-iCe> I am installing it
[19:09] <n-iCe> I want to set up a server, is xubuntu stable?
[19:09] <AlexCONRAD> the "live cd" version can boot from CD directly (all changes are non-persistant and are lost after reboot)
[19:09] <n-iCe> yeah, we don't want that
[19:10] <AlexCONRAD> n-iCe: it is
[19:10] <AlexCONRAD> I don't wanna troll or anything, but Fedora is more for admins
[19:10] <n-iCe> ok, now how can I configure the server, I mean how can I add users,logins, etc, and don't give them access to the pc, just for somethings
[19:11] <AlexCONRAD> if you want to go the .deb way, you might think about debian
[19:11] <n-iCe> I use debian, never used ubuntu though
[19:11] <AlexCONRAD> n-iCe: why would you want to run xubuntu for a server ?
[19:12] <AlexCONRAD> the desktop takes up memory
[19:12] <n-iCe> i don't want a desktop
[19:12] <AlexCONRAD> then *ubuntu won't fit for you
[19:12] <bassboi> how do i enable the swap file on xubuntu
[19:12] <AlexCONRAD> then *buntu won't fit for you
[19:13] <charlie-tca> n-iCe: you may want to check Ubuntu Server Edition, then.
[19:13] <AlexCONRAD> bassboi: you should have swap already set
[19:13] <AlexCONRAD> fill up your memory, you'll be swapping :)
[19:13] <n-iCe> ok
[19:14] <bassboi> well ya see
[19:14] <bassboi> i screwed with the partitions
[19:14] <AlexCONRAD> heh
[19:14] <charlie-tca> check out this link: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition
[19:14] <bassboi> and now in my system monitor... the swap file usage is 0%
[19:15] <AlexCONRAD> bassboi: well, that's what I'd want
[19:15] <bassboi> me too, but damn shit is slow as fuck
[19:15] <AlexCONRAD> swap comes in to play when your memory is kinda overloaded
[19:15] <bassboi> errr
[19:15] <AlexCONRAD> !ohmy
[19:15] <bassboi> damn crap is slow as hell*********8
[19:15] <charlie-tca> !ohmy
[19:16] <AlexCONRAD> bassboi: are you swaping ?
[19:16] <AlexCONRAD> bassboi: like, much disk access ?
[19:18] <bassboi> way too much
[19:18] <bassboi> i try and load firefox
[19:18] <bassboi> the hdd thrashes non stop for like, 10 minutes
[19:18] <AlexCONRAD> well, yeah, something's broken
[19:18] <n-iCe> thanks
[19:18] <AlexCONRAD> i'm used to check "mount" and see if I have a swaping partition
[19:18] <AlexCONRAD> but here on my xubuntu, I doesn't seem to show any swap
[19:18] <cody-somerville> whats the output of "free"?
[19:19] <AlexCONRAD> hey, cody-somerville: I installed gnome-screensaver, but I only have a few screensavers listed (like 3 or so). How do I get the full list ?
[19:20] <TheSheep> screensaver-data
[19:24] <AlexCONRAD> thanks TheSheep
[19:32] <AlexCONRAD> found it
[19:32] <AlexCONRAD> i was looking for xscreensaver-gl + extra
[19:42] <bassboi> cody-somerville, swap has no 0% used 100% free, and physical mem sits at like 50%
[19:42] <bassboi> i still can't figure out how to enable swap
[19:43] <cody-somerville> swapon
[19:48] <cottima> cody-somerville, sorry, I have not responded.  I have grub issues; could be my lvm or raid 1.
[19:51] <bassboi_> http://pastebin.com/m100dbee6
[19:51] <bassboi_> anyone see anything wrong with that
[19:52] <Myrtti> why is your / commented out
[19:52] <Myrtti> and swap
[19:52] <Myrtti> and /storage
[19:53] <bassboi_> i dunno?
[19:53] <bassboi_> not supposed to be, right?
[19:53] <Myrtti> right
[19:53] <bassboi_> ok
[19:54] <bassboi_> uncommented, saved, and sudo mount -a
[19:54] <bassboi_> still no swap :(
[20:06] <bassboi_> ah nvm
[20:07] <bassboi_> gots it
[20:19] <bassboi_> well alrighty then
[20:19] <bassboi_> ty Myrtti
[20:19] <bassboi_> got it all sorted out
[20:20] <bassboi_> back to runnin' smooth
[20:20] <bassboi_> fixed the WM too
[20:31] <zombiebox> hi
[20:32] <zombiebox> I have a problem with the md5 checksum file on the cd....  it isn't correct :-(
[20:33] <charlie-tca> zombiebox: what isn't correct, the sum you get when checking the cd?
[20:39] <zombiebox> there is a file /install/netboot/pxelinux.0 that gere wrong CRC when I check it with total commander....
[20:39] <zombiebox> the file on cd is 0 byte long
[20:39] <zombiebox> the file /install/netboot/pxelinux.cfg/default is allso missing
[20:43] <zombiebox> and if I understand right, 6 filenames on the cd are cut off for beeing too long? (or if windows can't handle that long filenames?)
[20:46] <zombiebox> these are the files that totalcommander MD5-checker complains about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29384/
[20:46] <zombiebox> for the xubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[20:53] <zombiebox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29387/ is how the files on my cd is... :-(
[20:55] <n-iCe> hello
[20:57] <zombiebox> or could it be Nero that is doing wrong when I burn the cd?
[20:57] <torro> can anyone help me?
[20:57] <torro> i got errors trying to do apt-get update
[20:57] <zombiebox> the filenames length is cut to 64 chars.... is that a limitation of the cd file format?
[20:58] <charlie-tca> zombiebox: pxelinux.0 and pxelinux.cfg are links to the files/directories. It may be windows not
[20:59] <charlie-tca> reading them correctly as such. They are 0 bytes.
[20:59] <torro> please? i think the mexican repositories aren't working anymore
[20:59] <torro> can anyone help me to fix it?
[21:00] <charlie-tca> torro: You may just need to wait a little while and try again.
[21:00] <charlie-tca> this happens often
[21:01] <zombiebox> aha
[21:01] <torro>  fetch http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[21:01] <torro> here is an example
[21:03] <charlie-tca> zombiebox: I show the md5 sum correct, though
[21:04] <zombiebox> ok
[21:04] <torro> charlie-tca: can you tell me your sources.list
[21:04] <torro> please
[21:05] <charlie-tca> torro: It won't help. I just looked at the archives, and edgy-backports
[21:05] <torro> and?
[21:05] <charlie-tca> doesn't exist there. Perhaps because it is EOL
[21:05] <torro> so, what should I do?
[21:06] <charlie-tca> Upgrade to the later version of Xubuntu
[21:07] <bassboi_> crap
[21:07] <bassboi_> coffee is nuts
[21:08] <charlie-tca> torro: Edgy version 6.10 went end of support April 2009
[21:08] <charlie-tca> sorry, 2008
[21:12] <torro> i cant update
[21:12] <torro> upgrade
[21:12] <torro> charlie-tca:
[21:12] <torro> Authentication failed
[21:12] <torro> Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server.
[21:32] <torro> nobody?
[21:33] <Myrtti> the error message is quite explanatory
[22:13] <jimmy_the_saint> does anybody else have a seagate freeagent external HD
[23:12] <ClawEEE> what musik player should i use for xfce ?
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> choose!
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> anything from amarok to moc
[23:13] <ClawEEE> amarok kde isnt it ?
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> yeah. but you still use it on xfce if you *wanted* to...
[23:16] <AlexJP> anyone know how i   can be anonymous on xchat?
[23:17] <Myrtti> say, what?
[23:41] <AlexJP> can anyone help me with setting up a VPN
[23:41] <cody-somerville> AlexJP, an entire VPN or just your computer to connect to a VPN?
[23:43] <AlexJP> i would like to connect to a VPN
[23:43] <AlexJP> sorry didnt think to state that  :P
[23:47] <AlexJP> could you help with this mate?
[23:59] <Don64> on the title bar what does the stick button in the upper right do?