=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve [04:18] can someone take a look at this and tell me why pbuilder is failing to build my debian source package? http://rafb.net/p/R0R1fg77.html [04:20] what delper version are you using? [04:20] debhelper* [04:21] vorian 6.0.4 [04:22] what about your compat? [04:25] its a 4 [04:27] ah, should be 6 then [04:27] i'm not sure what this compat file does [04:28] "the only file that is new is compat, which is a file that contains the debhelper version (in this case 4) that is used. " [04:28] vorian: Why? [04:29] who/what needs that number? [04:29] vorian: compat and the version required in the debhelper build-dep should be the minimum version needed to build the package, not the current version you happen to be using. [04:30] i see [04:30] SolarWar: compat is the major version number of the minimum debhelper version needed to build the package. [04:31] compat lower than 4 is deprecated, but 4 - 7 are potentially OK as long as you can build with that version. [04:33] oh i see, so it must correspond to the version number of the system that created the dsc file, that way when pbuilder goes to fetch the package, it gets the correct scripts [04:35] vorian, i fixed the compat level, and rebuilt the source file, however pbuilder is still complaining about the same issue === |Aryn| is now known as aRyn [09:20] vorian: did koffice get anywhere? [10:05] hi Sime, congratulations on becoming pyKDE overlord [10:08] <_Sime> yes, I believe the role also comes with its own "army of minions to do my bidding", but they haven't arrived yet. [10:11] morning [10:17] hey folks, yesterday while i was working in the garden i had a strange idea, buy the rights of an old cool pc game, and port it to kubuntu, is that a strange idea? or could it real possible? [10:19] Xand3r: you are working in the Garden and think about Kubuntu and Computers? Realy Strange xD [10:20] Wubbbi: it was realy hot, and the sun burnd on my head [10:21] the question is now, who holds the copyright of this game now? [10:23] Xand3r: and who spent the money for the rights? ;) [10:24] Wubbbi: first i have to know ho has the rights, than how much it will cost [10:25] yes ^^ [10:27] Wubbbi: but you dont know where i can got such a information [10:27] ah and there is a third problem [10:27] i need developer^^ [10:32] hihi ... no I dont knwo sorry [10:32] *know [11:16] Riddell: ping [11:20] hi davmor2 [11:20] hi devfil [11:21] Ubiquity on kub=Fail [11:21] hi to all [11:21] hi Riddell [11:21] Riddell: bug 251097 [11:21] Launchpad bug 251097 in ubiquity "Ubiquity fails on the language selection page with Kubuntu desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251097 [11:24] davmor2: tried ubuntu? [11:24] Riddell: Yes it fails elsewhere [11:24] davmor2: before or after the language bit? [11:24] after [11:25] 87% of the install [11:34] davmor2: how's the live kubuntu desktop looking? [11:37] Not tested it yet I'm about to confirm stgraber's bug just burning the cd [11:38] davmor2: you ran ubiquity without loading the desktop? [11:38] oh, it's not your bug [11:38] Riddell: :) stephanes bug [11:39] the kubuntu CDs are suspiciously small, I'm wondering what's missing [11:41] booting up now [11:41] oh pretty [11:42] moin [11:42] Riddell: I'll have a quick scan through the app list. Still 1/3 of the screen taken up by those 2 icon :( [11:43] hi Riddell [11:44] Riddell: am I missing something or is there no gui way to change which soundcards volume slider the hardware buttons change? [11:44] (in kubuntu, I know ubuntu has such) [11:45] danimo: no, it just calls kmix masterVolume change as I recall [11:45] Riddell: do you know where it does that? [11:45] danimo: kmilo [11:46] trying konq [11:47] Riddell: is that hardcoded? [11:48] Riddell: Planet ubuntu looks quite cool with all the shading etc in place :) [11:49] Riddell: plasmoids work [11:50] File manager looks really grey but works [11:51] Riddell: nevermind: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kmilo-controls-kmix-selected-sound-card :( [11:51] Riddell: looking down the apps list quickly you've got rid of a lot of the duplication in apps that were there before that might explain some of the reduction :) [11:55] Riddell: does this work in KDE 4 at all? looks like kmilo didn't get ported [11:55] (to dbus( [11:55] Riddell: printing doesn't open [11:59] Riddell: just confirmed ubiquity issue on 64 bit [12:03] apachelogger: what i have to do with the watch file? [12:03] apachelogger: hi btw [12:03] ahoy [12:03] Xand3r: which one, where, why, what? [12:04] Xand3r: a bit more information would be quite cool ;-) [12:04] apachelogger: digikam, you said in the reviw the watchfile would not work, i have no clue what todo, for me it looks like it is not solveable [12:06] http://sf.net/digikam/digikam-([\d\.]*)-(.*)\.tar\.bz2 [12:06] that is digikam-1.1.1-something.tar.bz2 [12:07] danimo: no, for kde 4 I'd like to just add it as a global accelarator for kmix [12:10] apachelogger: ok, but for the stabel i t have to be changed [12:10] Xand3r: I doubt this is working for unstable either [12:11] gmail is having serious server problems :S [12:12] apachelogger: what you pasted is what is written in the watchfile [12:12] righto [12:12] considering I complained about the watchfile [12:12] I probably think the pasted line is wrong [12:13] why shoul be wrong? [12:13] the verion is like digikam-1.1.1-something.tar.bz2 [12:13] no [12:13] it is not [12:14] digikam-kde4 (0.10.0~beta1-0ubuntu1) intrepid; urgency=low [12:14] Xand3r: notice any difference in the version number? [12:14] apachelogger: yea the package got the ~ in version, but the file on the server is - [12:15] righto [12:15] so, how should be evaluated wheather 0.10.0-rc1 is > than 0.10.9~beta3 [12:16] evalu? [12:16] Riddell: what the name of the package for the printing dialogue in Kubuntu please? [12:16] Xand3r: find out [12:16] Xand3r: check [12:16] Xand3r: know [12:16] ^^ [12:17] * apachelogger updates his suse [12:18] davmor2: which printing dialogue? [12:18] apachelogger: 0.10.0-rc1 is > than 0.10.9~beta3? [12:18] davmor2: the printer setup tool is system-config-printer-kde [12:19] so now i understand nothing [12:19] aye [12:19] That's the one ta [12:19] Xand3r: change the version in the changelog to ~alpha1 [12:19] Xand3r: alpha < beta, right? [12:19] Xand3r: then run uscan [12:20] ok [12:26] apachelogger: it works^^ [12:29] Riddell: bug 251111 [12:29] Launchpad bug 251111 in system-config-printer-kde "Intrepid: Kubuntu printer dialogue doesn't open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251111 [12:29] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29577/ [12:31] Riddell: I just had a thought about the missing 80 meg and the ubiquity crash you have installed some language packs haven't you :) [12:32] davmor2: no I always remove language packs until beta time, but I don't think we had any for previous alphas and they didn't have as much space [12:33] just a thought [12:35] the ubiquity issue I've got a workaround for [12:35] but now I've discovered another one [12:37] hm [12:37] Xand3r: well [12:37] be being stupid [12:37] apachelogger: the problem is if i change it back to beta1 uscan thinks the version from the server is newer one -.- [12:37] Xand3r: because it is [12:38] version~anything is making the release < than version [12:38] apachelogger: no it isnt, may be for uscan it looks like [12:38] and version-anything is > version [12:38] apachelogger: -.- [12:39] version-something is a revision, revisions are > normal versions [12:39] right [12:39] knoleg comes slow back [12:39] that is why -beta1 is > than anything [12:39] http://sf.net/digikam/digikam-([\d\.]*)~(.*)\.tar\.bz2 [12:39] Xand3r: try it [12:40] don't guess, try :P [12:40] kk [12:40] ok [12:40] i am eating now, and than in driving school [12:40] and than working 1 hour [12:40] so after it i will do it [12:41] apachelogger: please review digikam, so that i can finish it, thx a lot [12:41] c ya [12:41] Riddell: stgraber has added a trace back on bug 251111 [12:41] Launchpad bug 251111 in system-config-printer-kde "Intrepid: Kubuntu printer dialogue doesn't open" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251111 [12:42] looks fixable, but not a priority for alpha 3 [12:43] Riddell: like the back drop very redesque [12:44] s/red/redhat [12:44] you think? how so? [12:46] Riddell: yes, please make it so [12:48] Riddell: just look at some of the older redhat release it's just got that feel to it [12:50] Riddell: devfil said he was going to fix koffice [12:50] (but what i ran into last night was koffice-data failed on installing icons) [12:51] Riddell: http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=895&image=fedora_20071024_06_lrg as an example [12:53] Riddell: http://video.linux-noob.com/screenshots/fedora/9/post-67-1210463706.png or this one :) [12:56] vorian: did you start on kde4libs yet? [12:57] yeah [12:57] cool [12:57] :) [12:57] morning [12:58] ahoy echidnaman === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna [12:58] Wow, it got all the way to the third fallback nick and beyond >.> [12:58] * JontheEchidna wonders why his connection is so bad overnight [13:17] davmor2: don't suppose you still have a kubuntu live desktop up? [13:27] Riddell: you have a new team. it's going to be deleted. [13:27] (FYI) [13:30] hmm? [13:33] Riddell: you had the first LP id that i thought of [14:02] Riddell: no but I can put it back on it's only a disc away I was at lunch [14:02] why? [14:06] don't know what happened then [14:07] did you reply Riddell? [14:08] I assume adept3 will not be ready for intrepid? [14:30] * stdin pokes Riddell with http://stdin.me.uk/diffs/kdebase-4.0.98_0ubuntu4_to_0ubuntu5.diff [14:31] makes sure libkonq5-templates is installed by removing alternative dependency on kdesktop [14:32] hmm, should I re-add that conflicts kdesktop too? [14:38] stdin: I think there is already a lowlevel conflict causing kdesktop to be removed upon upgrade [14:38] we will see at upgrade testing ;-) [14:40] stdin: how's things dude. [14:41] stdin: btw, do you join the 4.1.0 packging fun? [14:43] davmor2: things are good at the moment, if a little too hot for me :p [14:43] apachelogger: hopefully I will, just need to make sure real life doesn't get in the way [14:43] stdin: muggy as hell, I know that much for sure :) [14:52] Riddell, have you done something to intrepid, I'm getting a pbuilder-satisydepends fail for it (but not for debian) [14:52] * Mez doesnt want a debian/ubuntu delta [14:56] Riddell: your still get the desktop container that should house the about Kubuntu and install on an alternative install of Kub [14:56] * apachelogger pokes smarter [14:57] hey apachelogger [14:58] smarter: howdy... do you want to join the kde4 fun as well? [14:58] of course (: [14:59] Riddell: adept notifier tells me there are 6 updates but when I click on it the applet nothing happens :( [15:00] apachelogger: kde 4.1 is released? [15:00] smarter: nope [15:02] shhh [15:03] not for about 3 months [15:05] :D [15:12] mornin' [15:13] MoinMoinNixternal [15:13] yo nixternal [15:13] nixternal: how are things going? [15:14] * Jucato is sooo behind Kubuntu dev these days... feels ashamed :( [15:14] * JontheEchidna will be back to assist packaging in an hour or so [15:14] apachelogger: Do the current kdeutils packages need that extra dep on libzip? [15:15] If so, I'll probably take that one when I get back [15:15] or I"ll just do it anywasy :P [15:15] Riddell: Adept doesn't start up :( grrrr [15:16] Jucato: way to busy [15:16] I am trying to schedule my new busy life so I can dedicate time to free software more than I do now [15:16] nixternal: aw.. hope you're being laid enough for your busy-ness [15:16] I have been strapped, as I have been working and then riding my bike a lot [15:17] omfg!! I meant "paid" [15:17] not "laid" [15:17] hahahahahahahahahaha [15:17] JontheEchidna: nope [15:17] I was about to say, damn [15:17] JontheEchidna: libzip is not in main (yet) [15:17] hey vistalover, and everyone else. [15:18] Jucato: haha. these people are geeks. they don't get laid, remember? [15:18] they'd miss their keyboards too much :P [15:18] heheheh [15:18] speak for yourself :P [15:18] :P [15:18] though, I think you spoke elloquently enough for me as well :P [15:18] I *wish* I could leave my keyboard... the spirit is willing but the flesh is stuck [15:18] i could set it on fire? [15:19] get a bike and ride! [15:19] * Hobbsee can't ride a bike. [15:19] it is funny, when I wasn't working, I could stay on the computer for 24 hours [15:19] nixternal: I have a bike.. but homeskillets don't ride :) [15:19] now I work on it for 8 hours here and I don't want to look at my computers at home [15:20] davmor2: well I fixed the ubiquity problem but now there's another one (won't go past partitioning stage) that doesn't even produce an error :( [15:20] I'll be giving a talk on "Experiences in contributing to upstream KDE development and supporting the Kubuntu community." next month in our LoCo. Need to catch up with what's hot in Kubuntu :) [15:21] btw, do we have slide templates/backgrounds I can use? [15:21] Mez: I've done many things to intrepid, but without knowing the pbuilder-satisydepends fail error I don't know what would cause it [15:21] davmor2: adept is possibly a kdesudo issue [15:22] davmor2: desktop container will appear as long as there's a ~/Desktop directory [15:24] Riddell: do you still love me? :P [15:24] I know Jucato does :) [15:24] and Hobbsee just loves to hit me with a stick [15:24] I will never cease loving you nixternal :) [15:24] hahaha [15:24] gosh that sounds so... [15:24] romantic? :P [15:25] sadistic, was more what i was thinking. [15:25] nixternal: sure, why what have you done? [15:25] nothing unfortunately :( [15:25] oh btw nixternal, my grandma watches something church thingy daily... there's one priest there that reminds me of you :P [15:25] I need to get back into it hardcore [15:25] oh lord, a priest reminding you of me, that is not good [15:25] i read that as "i need to get back into hardcore" [15:26] nixternal: yeah.. because that guy is big and scary face :P [15:26] you naughty [15:26] hahahaha [15:26] perverts! all of ya [15:27] I think this is the longest I have been on IRC while at work in a long time [15:27] but yesterday I fixed their "we can't hot swap" issue they have been working on for a year [15:27] dumb arses [15:27] haha [15:28] hehehe [15:28] ICH7 chipsets don't have AHCI support, so SATA drives act as ATA drives, there's your problem [15:28] lsmod answers that [15:28] I saw 'libata ata_piix' [15:29] that means no go [15:29] now, with our new hardware, I see 'libata ahci' which equals the win [15:32] Riddell, seems kdelibs4-dev is broken... http://rafb.net/p/HRrlMf67.html [15:33] (or kdesdk-scripts) [15:34] nixternal: you running intrepid? [15:34] Mez: neither of them I say :P [15:35] scripts is kde4 and kdelibs4 is kde 3 [15:35] apachelogger, well, scripts is being pulled in somehow... [15:35] from a B-D of [15:36] Build-Depends: cdbs (>= 0.4.46ubuntu5), debhelper (>= 5.0.0), kdelibs4-dev (>= 3.3), docbook2x, libxi-dev, autoconf, automake1.9, sharutils [15:37] kdelibs4-dev depends on it [15:37] that needs fixing pretty much [15:38] * apachelogger goes showering for tonights party though [15:41] Riddell: Sorry about that just talking with heno. I just ran kdesudo adept and I get the following "kdesudo(6039) KdeSudo::KdeSudo: [ /build/buildd/kdesudo-3.2/kdesudo/kdesudo.cpp: 157 ] creating xauth file: "/usr/bin/xauth -q -f /tmp/kdesudo-Ti6039-xauth generate :0.0 . trusted timeout 60 >/dev/null 2>&1" [15:41] sudo:" [15:42] Jucato: not running intrepid yet, haven't had time to update, and on my work box i need stable right now [15:43] nixternal: ok.. you're really out of it :) [15:44] Riddell: do you need a second test on the ubiquity fix? [15:49] fail [15:49] davmor2: no complete fix yet [15:50] Riddell: okay np === skreechmiester is now known as DaSkreech [16:06] Ah darn, forgot that pbuilder won't work until kdepimlibs 4.1.0 is up.. [16:06] ...for kdeutils [16:08] you'll have to keep the same deps for now [16:09] hopefully that won't hurt things... it shouldn't though. [16:09] oh wow, suprise trip to Pizza Hut [16:10] they can be changed when needed [16:11] * JontheEchidna pbuilds and goes to pizza hut [16:11] hahahaha [16:15] Riddell: you get screwy gfx when the second shutdown/restart box appears [16:15] davmor2: I get screwy graphics at usplash [16:16] I get no gfx at usplash :) [16:23] I hate Red Hat officially now, I don't care how good their software is supposed to be [16:23] harsh words [16:23] if I can't find information behind a security bug because it is blocked to Red Hat employees only, and their security eratta notices suck, how do I go to the board and inform them that we need to update packages? [16:24] I need to start cracking skulls around here to get them to switch distros [16:24] and it sucks for CentOS because it is a good community distro, but you can't track bugs from Red Hat because they lock them down [16:26] Riddell: I only get the screwy gfx with the intel gfx card :D [16:27] right, that's what I have [16:28] I know X is funny with intel currently, compositing doesn't work for example [16:30] works for me [16:38] nixternal: in intrepid? [16:39] hardy of course [16:39] I need stable here at work [16:39] ya, mine worked in hardy [16:39] not in intrepid [16:41] hu [16:41] hu [16:41] heya Xand3r [16:41] hi vorian [16:44] apachelogger: ahoy [16:45] the uscan line with ~ dont work, i think it will not be interpreted [16:48] Xand3r: run --debug :P [16:48] apachelogger: nice idea [16:48] uscan is fetching an html page and runs a regexp on it [16:48] apachelogger: and are you celebrating to day? [16:48] considering upstream doesn't have an ~ in the tarball name that regexp will not catch anything [16:49] Xand3r: in about 1 minuten :P [16:49] apachelogger: kk^^ have fun [16:50] * apachelogger heads off [16:50] cya [16:51] apachelogger: c ya [17:01] what is the ~ syntax for uscan, what i have to use vor the same effect? [17:08] % [17:08] but, you may have to demagle the url [17:25] Riddell: some icons in koffice2 are installed into /usr/share/icons/oxigen... is this ok? [17:28] devfil_: sure [17:28] Riddell: ok, so I need only to update install files with the correct paths [17:30] yes [17:30] run dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing [17:30] update install files [17:31] repeat until complete [17:34] Riddell: are we backporting cmake 2.6 to hardy? [17:35] Tm_T: we should, fancy testing if it builds ok? [17:36] Tm_T: by the way, did you ever start on migration assistant? [17:38] vorian: cant find the word demagle [17:39] devfil_: oxygen not oxigen I hope [17:39] yuriy: yes, my error [17:48] vorian: dont know what you mean [17:49] vorian: could you please explain it? [17:49] Xand3r: man uscan [17:52] Riddell: it's atm on halt, because of my reallife things, family and work, but will look and try to push it forward next week [17:53] vorian: the word demagle dont exist i dont know what to do, and not what i have to loking for [17:58] /home/steve/motu/kde/kdelibs/kde4libs-4.1.0/kate/document/katedocument.cpp:4476:2: warning: #warning "that's a bad idea, can lead to stray endings, FIXME" [17:58] Xand3r: some urls are mangles [17:58] Tm_T: fairy nuff [17:58] mangled* [17:58] you have to use various tricks to get uscan to read them [17:58] Tm_T: want to do cmake? [18:03] vorian: thats mean from uscan [18:03] yes [18:04] Riddell: how I can see in witch install put a file? [18:06] you have to work it out [18:06] find . -name will show where it comes from in the sources [18:06] (sometimes) [18:15] Riddell: what are the differences between -kde4 and -data-kde4? [18:16] devfil__: -data is for files which are the same on all architectures (i386, amd64), images and settings files usually [18:17] Riddell: ... krita-kde4 already includes usr/share/kde4/services/kritatoolgrid.desktop [18:17] usr/share/kde4/services/kritatoolperspectivegrid.desktop [18:17] so this 2 files need to be moved to -date [18:17] s/-date/data/ [18:19] yes, they should be [18:19] if there's a krita-data-kde4 package [18:19] it's only worth making a -data package if the data files are so large it would be worth saving the space on the repository server [18:19] vorian: i realy dont know, i dontgot it from the man [18:21] Riddell: yes, I know. if the non-arch-dependent files are bigger they are installed by another package with all in architetture [18:41] Riddell: would there be interest in having a start page for 8.10? [18:43] * ryanakca is willing to propose it to the ML to see if there are any takers / people interested in taking care of it [18:48] ryanakca: for firefox? or konqueror? [18:48] or are you talking about something else? [18:50] Riddell: start page, it could be for both, similar to what Ubuntu has, except much simpler, and KDE-ified. [18:53] Riddell: http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ ... it could be similar to the current Konqueror start page, with a Kubuntu logo, a google search box that has [x] Search the web [ ] Search Kubuntu Documentation (Go!) , and underneath a tip of the day... [18:59] I think the intrepid-firefox-kde spec may mention something like that [18:59] yes, it would be nice [19:02] ok, I'll include it in the email, along with a mockup. I'm hoping to get all this out to the ML today or tomorrow [19:20] yay! [19:20] finnaly [19:22] vorian: what's that? [19:22] kdelibs [19:22] took three tries to get it right [19:26] yay, my wireless card is finally working with intrepid :) [19:32] Riddell: kubuntu-desktop should depends on kde-core, noN [19:32] s/N/?/ [19:32] or at least on kdelibs/kdebase [19:37] Riddell: koffice2 build fine, now I'm fixing lintian warnings, some bugs etc... [19:59] Riddell: you around? [19:59] Riddell: I'm trying to backport ktorrent [19:59] Arby_: for a bit [20:00] currently it fails with http://paste.ubuntu.com/29688/ [20:00] I'm guessing it's a different filepath between hardy and intrepid [20:00] are you using the deina/cdbs from hardy? [20:00] no, [20:01] I suspect it's easiest to use the whole debian/ from ktorrent-kde4 in hardy [20:01] I did initially [20:01] it filaed [20:01] failed even [20:01] can't remeber the error, let me look [20:16] Riddell: hmm, to my surprise that built ok this time [20:16] Riddell: now for the complications [20:17] * Riddell out [20:17] nevermind then [20:19] any motu type folks around who could offer some advice/sanity checking on a backport? [20:25] JontheEchidna: you around? [20:26] JontheEchidna: thought you might like to know that ktorrent 3.1.1 fixes the crash on closing for hardy [20:45] Arby_: Cool. :D [20:46]