[04:18] <SolarWar> can someone take a look at this and tell me why pbuilder is failing to build my debian source package? http://rafb.net/p/R0R1fg77.html
[04:20] <vorian> what delper version are you using?
[04:20] <vorian> debhelper*
[04:21] <SolarWar> vorian 6.0.4
[04:22] <vorian> what about your compat?
[04:25] <SolarWar> its a 4
[04:27] <vorian> ah, should be 6 then
[04:27] <SolarWar> i'm not sure what this compat file does
[04:28] <SolarWar> "the only file that is new is compat, which is a file that contains the debhelper version (in this case 4) that is used. "
[04:28] <ScottK-laptop> vorian: Why?
[04:29] <SolarWar> who/what needs that number?
[04:29] <ScottK-laptop> vorian: compat and the version required in the debhelper build-dep should be the minimum version needed to build the package, not the current version you happen to be using.
[04:30] <vorian> i see
[04:30] <ScottK-laptop> SolarWar: compat is the major version number of the minimum debhelper version needed to build the package.
[04:31] <ScottK-laptop> compat lower than 4 is deprecated, but 4 - 7 are potentially OK as long as you can build with that version.
[04:33] <SolarWar> oh i see, so it must correspond to the version number of the system that created the dsc file, that way when pbuilder goes to fetch the package, it gets the correct scripts
[04:35] <SolarWar> vorian, i fixed the compat level, and rebuilt the source file, however pbuilder is still complaining about the same issue
[09:20] <Riddell> vorian: did koffice get anywhere?
[10:05] <Riddell> hi Sime, congratulations on becoming pyKDE overlord
[10:08] <_Sime> yes, I believe the role also comes with its own "army of minions to do my bidding", but they haven't arrived yet.
[10:11] <Xand3r> morning
[10:17] <Xand3r> hey folks, yesterday while i was working in the garden i had a strange idea, buy the rights of an old cool pc game, and port it to kubuntu,  is that a strange idea? or could it real possible?
[10:19] <Wubbbi> Xand3r: you are working in the Garden and think about Kubuntu and Computers? Realy Strange xD
[10:20] <Xand3r> Wubbbi: it was realy hot, and the sun burnd on my head
[10:21] <Xand3r> the question is now, who holds the copyright of this game now?
[10:23] <Wubbbi> Xand3r: and who spent the money for the rights? ;)
[10:24] <Xand3r> Wubbbi: first i have to know ho has the rights, than how much it will cost
[10:25] <Wubbbi> yes ^^
[10:27] <Xand3r> Wubbbi: but you dont know where i can got such a information
[10:27] <Xand3r> ah and there is a third problem
[10:27] <Xand3r> i need developer^^
[10:32] <Wubbbi> hihi ... no I dont knwo sorry
[10:32] <Wubbbi> *know
[11:16] <davmor2> Riddell: ping
[11:20] <Riddell> hi davmor2
[11:20] <Riddell> hi devfil
[11:21] <davmor2> Ubiquity on kub=Fail
[11:21] <devfil> hi to all
[11:21] <devfil> hi Riddell
[11:21] <davmor2> Riddell: ﻿ bug 251097
[11:24] <Riddell> davmor2: tried ubuntu?
[11:24] <davmor2> Riddell: Yes it fails elsewhere
[11:24] <Riddell> davmor2: before or after the language bit?
[11:24] <davmor2> after
[11:25] <davmor2> 87% of the install
[11:34] <Riddell> davmor2: how's the live kubuntu desktop looking?
[11:37] <davmor2> Not tested it yet I'm about to confirm stgraber's bug just burning the cd
[11:38] <Riddell> davmor2: you ran ubiquity without loading the desktop?
[11:38] <Riddell> oh, it's not your bug
[11:38] <davmor2> Riddell:  :) stephanes bug
[11:39] <Riddell> the kubuntu CDs are suspiciously small, I'm wondering what's missing
[11:41] <davmor2> booting up now
[11:41] <davmor2> oh pretty
[11:42] <danimo> moin
[11:42] <davmor2> Riddell: I'll have a quick scan through the app list.  Still 1/3 of the screen taken up by those 2 icon :(
[11:43] <danimo> hi Riddell
[11:44] <danimo> Riddell: am I missing something or is there no gui way to change which soundcards volume slider the hardware buttons change?
[11:44] <danimo> (in kubuntu, I know ubuntu has such)
[11:45] <Riddell> danimo: no, it just calls kmix masterVolume change as I recall
[11:45] <danimo> Riddell: do you know where it does that?
[11:45] <Riddell> danimo: kmilo
[11:46] <davmor2> trying konq
[11:47] <danimo> Riddell: is that hardcoded?
[11:48] <davmor2> Riddell: Planet ubuntu looks quite cool with all the shading etc in place :)
[11:49] <davmor2> Riddell: plasmoids work
[11:50] <davmor2> File manager looks really grey but works
[11:51] <danimo> Riddell: nevermind: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kmilo-controls-kmix-selected-sound-card :(
[11:51] <davmor2> Riddell: looking down the apps list quickly you've got rid of a lot of the duplication in apps that were there before that might explain some of the reduction :)
[11:55] <danimo> Riddell: does this work in KDE 4 at all? looks like kmilo didn't get ported
[11:55] <danimo> (to dbus(
[11:55] <davmor2> Riddell: printing doesn't open
[11:59] <davmor2> Riddell: just confirmed ubiquity issue on 64 bit
[12:03] <Xand3r> apachelogger: what i have to do with the watch file?
[12:03] <Xand3r> apachelogger: hi btw
[12:03] <apachelogger> ahoy
[12:03] <apachelogger> Xand3r: which one, where, why, what?
[12:04] <apachelogger> Xand3r: a bit more information would be quite cool ;-)
[12:04] <Xand3r> apachelogger: digikam, you said in the reviw the watchfile would not work, i have no clue what todo, for me it looks like it is not solveable
[12:06] <apachelogger> http://sf.net/digikam/digikam-([\d\.]*)-(.*)\.tar\.bz2
[12:06] <apachelogger> that is digikam-1.1.1-something.tar.bz2
[12:07] <Riddell> danimo: no, for kde 4 I'd like to just add it as a global accelarator for kmix
[12:10] <Xand3r> apachelogger: ok, but for the stabel i t have to be changed
[12:10] <apachelogger> Xand3r: I doubt this is working for unstable either
[12:11] <apachelogger> gmail is having serious server problems :S
[12:12] <Xand3r> apachelogger: what you pasted is what is written in the watchfile
[12:12] <apachelogger> righto
[12:12] <apachelogger> considering I complained about the watchfile
[12:12] <apachelogger> I probably think the pasted line is wrong
[12:13] <Xand3r> why shoul be wrong?
[12:13] <Xand3r> the verion is like  digikam-1.1.1-something.tar.bz2
[12:13] <apachelogger> no
[12:13] <apachelogger> it is not
[12:14] <apachelogger> digikam-kde4 (0.10.0~beta1-0ubuntu1) intrepid; urgency=low
[12:14] <apachelogger> Xand3r: notice any difference in the version number?
[12:14] <Xand3r> apachelogger: yea the package got the ~ in version, but the file on the server is -
[12:15] <apachelogger> righto
[12:15] <apachelogger> so, how should be evaluated wheather 0.10.0-rc1 is > than 0.10.9~beta3
[12:16] <Xand3r> evalu?
[12:16] <davmor2> Riddell: what the name of the package for the printing dialogue in Kubuntu please?
[12:16] <apachelogger> Xand3r: find out
[12:16] <apachelogger> Xand3r: check
[12:16] <apachelogger> Xand3r: know
[12:16] <Xand3r> ^^
[12:17]  * apachelogger updates his suse
[12:18] <Riddell> davmor2: which printing dialogue?
[12:18] <Xand3r> apachelogger:  0.10.0-rc1 is > than 0.10.9~beta3?
[12:18] <Riddell> davmor2: the printer setup tool is system-config-printer-kde
[12:19] <Xand3r> so now i understand nothing
[12:19] <apachelogger> aye
[12:19] <davmor2> That's the one ta
[12:19] <apachelogger> Xand3r: change the version in the changelog to ~alpha1
[12:19] <apachelogger> Xand3r: alpha < beta, right?
[12:19] <apachelogger> Xand3r: then run uscan
[12:20] <Xand3r> ok
[12:26] <Xand3r> apachelogger: it works^^
[12:29] <davmor2> Riddell: bug 251111
[12:29] <Xand3r> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29577/
[12:31] <davmor2> Riddell: I just had a thought about the missing 80 meg and the ubiquity crash  you have installed some language packs haven't you :)
[12:32] <Riddell> davmor2: no I always remove language packs until beta time, but I don't think we had any for previous alphas and they didn't have as much space
[12:33] <davmor2> just a thought
[12:35] <Riddell> the ubiquity issue I've got a workaround for
[12:35] <Riddell> but now I've discovered another one
[12:37] <apachelogger> hm
[12:37] <apachelogger> Xand3r: well
[12:37] <apachelogger> be being stupid
[12:37] <Xand3r> apachelogger: the problem is if i change it back to beta1 uscan thinks the version from the server is newer one -.-
[12:37] <apachelogger> Xand3r: because it is
[12:38] <apachelogger> version~anything is making the release < than version
[12:38] <Xand3r> apachelogger: no it isnt, may be for uscan it looks like
[12:38] <apachelogger> and version-anything is > version
[12:38] <Xand3r> apachelogger: -.-
[12:39] <apachelogger> version-something is a revision, revisions are > normal versions
[12:39] <Xand3r> right
[12:39] <Xand3r> knoleg comes slow back
[12:39] <apachelogger> that is why -beta1 is > than anything
[12:39] <Xand3r>  http://sf.net/digikam/digikam-([\d\.]*)~(.*)\.tar\.bz2
[12:39] <apachelogger> Xand3r: try it
[12:40] <apachelogger> don't guess, try :P
[12:40] <Xand3r> kk
[12:40] <Xand3r> ok
[12:40] <Xand3r> i am eating now, and than in driving school
[12:40] <Xand3r> and than working 1 hour
[12:40] <Xand3r> so after it i will do it
[12:41] <Xand3r> apachelogger: please review digikam, so that i can finish it, thx a lot
[12:41] <Xand3r> c ya
[12:41] <davmor2> Riddell: stgraber has added a trace back on bug 251111
[12:42] <Riddell> looks fixable, but not a priority for alpha 3
[12:43] <davmor2> Riddell: like the back drop very redesque
[12:44] <davmor2> s/red/redhat
[12:44] <Riddell> you think?  how so?
[12:46] <danimo> Riddell: yes, please make it so
[12:48] <davmor2> Riddell: just look at some of the older redhat release it's just got that feel to it
[12:50] <vorian> Riddell: devfil said he was going to fix koffice
[12:50] <vorian> (but what i ran into last night was koffice-data failed on installing icons)
[12:51] <davmor2> Riddell: http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=895&image=fedora_20071024_06_lrg as an example
[12:53] <davmor2> Riddell: http://video.linux-noob.com/screenshots/fedora/9/post-67-1210463706.png or this one :)
[12:56] <apachelogger> vorian: did you start on kde4libs yet?
[12:57] <vorian> yeah
[12:57] <apachelogger> cool
[12:57] <vorian> :)
[12:57] <echidnaman> morning
[12:58] <apachelogger> ahoy echidnaman
[12:58] <JontheEchidna> Wow, it got all the way to the third fallback nick and beyond >.>
[12:58]  * JontheEchidna wonders why his connection is so bad overnight
[13:17] <Riddell> davmor2: don't suppose you still have a kubuntu live desktop up?
[13:27] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you have a new team.  it's going to be deleted.
[13:27] <Hobbsee> (FYI)
[13:30] <Riddell> hmm?
[13:33] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you had the first LP id that i thought of
[14:02] <davmor2> Riddell: no but I can put it back on it's only a disc away I was at lunch
[14:02] <davmor2> why?
[14:06] <davmor2> don't know what happened then
[14:07] <davmor2> did you reply Riddell?
[14:08] <smarter> I assume adept3 will not be ready for intrepid?
[14:30]  * stdin pokes Riddell with http://stdin.me.uk/diffs/kdebase-4.0.98_0ubuntu4_to_0ubuntu5.diff
[14:31] <stdin> makes sure libkonq5-templates is installed by removing alternative dependency on kdesktop
[14:32] <stdin> hmm, should I re-add that conflicts kdesktop too?
[14:38] <apachelogger> stdin: I think there is already a lowlevel conflict causing kdesktop to be removed upon upgrade
[14:38] <apachelogger> we will see at upgrade testing ;-)
[14:40] <davmor2> stdin: how's things dude.
[14:41] <apachelogger> stdin: btw, do you join the 4.1.0 packging fun?
[14:43] <stdin> davmor2: things are good at the moment, if a little too hot for me :p
[14:43] <stdin> apachelogger: hopefully I will, just need to make sure real life doesn't get in the way
[14:43] <davmor2> stdin: muggy as hell, I know that much for sure :)
[14:52] <Mez> Riddell, have you done something to intrepid, I'm getting a pbuilder-satisydepends fail for it (but not for debian)
[14:52]  * Mez doesnt want a debian/ubuntu delta
[14:56] <davmor2> Riddell: your still get the desktop container that should house the about Kubuntu and install on an alternative install of Kub
[14:56]  * apachelogger pokes smarter
[14:57] <smarter> hey apachelogger
[14:58] <apachelogger> smarter: howdy... do you want to join the kde4 fun as well?
[14:58] <smarter> of course (:
[14:59] <davmor2> Riddell: adept notifier tells me there are 6 updates but when I click on it the applet nothing happens :(
[15:00] <smarter> apachelogger: kde 4.1 is released?
[15:00] <apachelogger> smarter: nope
[15:02] <vorian> shhh
[15:03] <apachelogger> not for about 3 months
[15:05] <smarter> :D
[15:12] <nixternal> mornin'
[15:13] <Jucato> MoinMoinNixternal
[15:13] <vorian> yo nixternal
[15:13] <Jucato> nixternal: how are things going?
[15:14]  * Jucato is sooo behind Kubuntu dev these days... feels ashamed :(
[15:14]  * JontheEchidna will be back to assist packaging in an hour or so
[15:14] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: Do the current kdeutils packages need that extra dep on libzip?
[15:15] <JontheEchidna> If so, I'll probably take that one when I get back
[15:15] <JontheEchidna> or I"ll just do it anywasy :P
[15:15] <davmor2> Riddell: Adept doesn't start up :( grrrr
[15:16] <nixternal> Jucato: way to busy
[15:16] <nixternal> I am trying to schedule my new busy life so I can dedicate time to free software more than I do now
[15:16] <Jucato> nixternal: aw.. hope you're being laid enough for your busy-ness
[15:16] <nixternal> I have been strapped, as I have been working and then riding my bike a lot
[15:17] <Jucato> omfg!! I meant "paid"
[15:17] <Jucato> not "laid"
[15:17] <nixternal> hahahahahahahahahaha
[15:17] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: nope
[15:17] <nixternal> I was about to say, damn
[15:17] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: libzip is not in main (yet)
[15:17] <Hobbsee> hey vistalover, and everyone else.
[15:18] <Hobbsee> Jucato: haha.  these people are geeks.  they don't get laid, remember?
[15:18] <Hobbsee> they'd miss their keyboards too much :P
[15:18] <Jucato> heheheh
[15:18] <nixternal> speak for yourself :P
[15:18] <Hobbsee> :P
[15:18] <nixternal> though, I think you spoke elloquently enough for me as well :P
[15:18] <Jucato> I *wish* I could leave my keyboard... the spirit is willing but the flesh is stuck
[15:18] <Hobbsee> i could set it on fire?
[15:19] <nixternal> get a bike and ride!
[15:19]  * Hobbsee can't ride a bike.
[15:19] <nixternal> it is funny, when I wasn't working, I could stay on the computer for 24 hours
[15:19] <Jucato> nixternal: I have a bike.. but homeskillets don't ride :)
[15:19] <nixternal> now I work on it for 8 hours here and I don't want to look at my computers at home
[15:20] <Riddell> davmor2: well I fixed the ubiquity problem but now there's another one (won't go past partitioning stage) that doesn't even produce an error :(
[15:20] <Jucato> I'll be giving a talk on "Experiences in contributing to upstream KDE development and supporting the Kubuntu community." next month in our LoCo. Need to catch up with what's hot in Kubuntu :)
[15:21] <Jucato> btw, do we have slide templates/backgrounds I can use?
[15:21] <Riddell> Mez: I've done many things to intrepid, but without knowing the pbuilder-satisydepends fail error I don't know what would cause it
[15:21] <Riddell> davmor2: adept is possibly a kdesudo issue
[15:22] <Riddell> davmor2: desktop container will appear as long as there's a ~/Desktop directory
[15:24] <nixternal> Riddell: do you still love me? :P
[15:24] <nixternal> I know Jucato does :)
[15:24] <nixternal> and Hobbsee just loves to hit me with a stick
[15:24] <Jucato> I will never cease loving you nixternal :)
[15:24] <nixternal> hahaha
[15:24] <Jucato> gosh that sounds so...
[15:24] <nixternal> romantic? :P
[15:25] <Hobbsee> sadistic, was more what i was thinking.
[15:25] <Riddell> nixternal: sure, why what have you done?
[15:25] <nixternal> nothing unfortunately :(
[15:25] <Jucato> oh btw nixternal, my grandma watches something church thingy daily... there's one priest there that reminds me of you :P
[15:25] <nixternal> I need to get back into it hardcore
[15:25] <nixternal> oh lord, a priest reminding you of me, that is not good
[15:25] <vorian> i read that as "i need to get back into hardcore"
[15:26] <Jucato> nixternal: yeah.. because that guy is big and scary face :P
[15:26] <vorian> you naughty
[15:26] <nixternal> hahahaha
[15:26] <nixternal> perverts! all of ya
[15:27] <nixternal> I think this is the longest I have been on IRC while at work in a long time
[15:27] <nixternal> but yesterday I fixed their "we can't hot swap" issue they have been working on for a year
[15:27] <nixternal> dumb arses
[15:27] <vorian> haha
[15:28] <Jucato> hehehe
[15:28] <nixternal> ICH7 chipsets don't have AHCI support, so SATA drives act as ATA drives, there's your problem
[15:28] <nixternal> lsmod answers that
[15:28] <nixternal> I saw 'libata            ata_piix'
[15:29] <nixternal> that means no go
[15:29] <nixternal> now, with our new hardware, I see 'libata        ahci' which equals the win
[15:32] <Mez> Riddell, seems kdelibs4-dev is broken... http://rafb.net/p/HRrlMf67.html
[15:33] <Mez> (or kdesdk-scripts)
[15:34] <Jucato> nixternal: you running intrepid?
[15:34] <apachelogger> Mez: neither of them I say :P
[15:35] <apachelogger> scripts is kde4 and kdelibs4 is kde 3
[15:35] <Mez> apachelogger, well, scripts is being pulled in somehow...
[15:35] <Mez> from a B-D of
[15:36] <Mez> Build-Depends: cdbs (>= 0.4.46ubuntu5), debhelper (>= 5.0.0), kdelibs4-dev (>= 3.3), docbook2x, libxi-dev, autoconf, automake1.9, sharutils
[15:37] <apachelogger> kdelibs4-dev depends on it
[15:37] <apachelogger> that needs fixing pretty much
[15:38]  * apachelogger goes showering for tonights party though
[15:41] <davmor2> Riddell: Sorry about that just talking with heno.  I just ran kdesudo adept and I get the following "kdesudo(6039) KdeSudo::KdeSudo: [ /build/buildd/kdesudo-3.2/kdesudo/kdesudo.cpp: 157 ]  creating xauth file:  "/usr/bin/xauth -q -f /tmp/kdesudo-Ti6039-xauth generate :0.0 . trusted timeout 60 >/dev/null 2>&1"
[15:41] <davmor2> sudo:"
[15:42] <nixternal> Jucato: not running intrepid yet, haven't had time to update, and on my work box i need stable right now
[15:43] <Jucato> nixternal: ok.. you're really out of it :)
[15:44] <davmor2> Riddell: do you need a second test on the ubiquity fix?
[15:49] <vorian> fail
[15:49] <Riddell> davmor2: no complete fix yet
[15:50] <davmor2> Riddell: okay np
[16:06] <JontheEchidna> Ah darn, forgot that pbuilder won't work until kdepimlibs 4.1.0 is up..
[16:06] <JontheEchidna> ...for kdeutils
[16:08] <vorian> you'll have to keep the same deps for now
[16:09] <JontheEchidna> hopefully that won't hurt things... it shouldn't though.
[16:09] <JontheEchidna> oh wow, suprise trip to Pizza Hut
[16:10] <vorian> they can be changed when needed
[16:11]  * JontheEchidna pbuilds and goes to pizza hut
[16:11] <vorian> hahahaha
[16:15] <davmor2> Riddell: you get screwy gfx when the second shutdown/restart box appears
[16:15] <Riddell> davmor2: I get screwy graphics at usplash
[16:16] <davmor2> I get no gfx at usplash :)
[16:23] <nixternal> I hate Red Hat officially now, I don't care how good their software is supposed to be
[16:23] <Riddell> harsh words
[16:23] <nixternal> if I can't find information behind a security bug because it is blocked to Red Hat employees only, and their security eratta notices suck, how do I go to the board and inform them that we need to update packages?
[16:24] <nixternal> I need to start cracking skulls around here to get them to switch distros
[16:24] <nixternal> and it sucks for CentOS because it is a good community distro, but you can't track bugs from Red Hat because they lock them down
[16:26] <davmor2> Riddell: I only get the screwy gfx with the intel gfx card :D
[16:27] <Riddell> right, that's what I have
[16:28] <Riddell> I know X is funny with intel currently, compositing doesn't work for example
[16:30] <nixternal> works for me
[16:38] <vorian> nixternal: in intrepid?
[16:39] <nixternal> hardy of course
[16:39] <nixternal> I need stable here at work
[16:39] <vorian> ya, mine worked in hardy
[16:39] <vorian> not in intrepid
[16:41] <Xand3r> hu
[16:41] <Xand3r> hu
[16:41] <vorian> heya Xand3r
[16:41] <Xand3r> hi vorian
[16:44] <Xand3r> apachelogger: ahoy
[16:45] <Xand3r> the uscan line with ~ dont work, i think it will not be interpreted
[16:48] <apachelogger> Xand3r: run --debug :P
[16:48] <Xand3r> apachelogger: nice idea
[16:48] <apachelogger> uscan is fetching an html page and runs a regexp on it
[16:48] <Xand3r> apachelogger: and are you celebrating to day?
[16:48] <apachelogger> considering upstream doesn't have an ~ in the tarball name that regexp will not catch anything
[16:49] <apachelogger> Xand3r: in about 1 minuten :P
[16:49] <Xand3r> apachelogger: kk^^ have fun
[16:50]  * apachelogger heads off
[16:50] <apachelogger> cya
[16:51] <Xand3r> apachelogger: c ya
[17:01] <Xand3r> what is the ~ syntax for uscan, what i have to use vor the same effect?
[17:08] <vorian> %
[17:08] <vorian> but, you may have to demagle the url
[17:25] <devfil_> Riddell: some icons in koffice2 are installed into /usr/share/icons/oxigen... is this ok?
[17:28] <Riddell> devfil_: sure
[17:28] <devfil_> Riddell: ok, so I need only to update install files with the correct paths
[17:30] <Riddell> yes
[17:30] <Riddell> run dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing
[17:30] <Riddell> update install files
[17:31] <Riddell> repeat until complete
[17:34] <Tm_T> Riddell: are we backporting cmake 2.6 to hardy?
[17:35] <Riddell> Tm_T: we should, fancy testing if it builds ok?
[17:36] <Riddell> Tm_T: by the way, did you ever start on migration assistant?
[17:38] <Xand3r> vorian:  cant find the word demagle
[17:39] <yuriy> devfil_: oxygen not oxigen I hope
[17:39] <devfil_> yuriy: yes, my error
[17:48] <Xand3r> vorian: dont know what you mean
[17:49] <Xand3r> vorian: could you please explain it?
[17:49] <vorian> Xand3r: man uscan
[17:52] <Tm_T> Riddell: it's atm on halt, because of my reallife things, family and work, but will look and try to push it forward next week
[17:53] <Xand3r> vorian: the word demagle dont exist i dont know what to do, and not what i have to loking for
[17:58] <vorian> /home/steve/motu/kde/kdelibs/kde4libs-4.1.0/kate/document/katedocument.cpp:4476:2: warning: #warning "that's a bad idea, can lead to stray endings, FIXME"
[17:58] <vorian> Xand3r: some urls are mangles
[17:58] <Riddell> Tm_T: fairy nuff
[17:58] <vorian> mangled*
[17:58] <vorian> you have to use various tricks to get uscan to read them
[17:58] <Riddell> Tm_T: want to do cmake?
[18:03] <Xand3r> vorian: thats mean from uscan
[18:03] <vorian> yes
[18:04] <devfil__> Riddell: how I can see in witch install put a file?
[18:06] <Riddell> you have to work it out
[18:06] <Riddell> find . -name <filename>  will show where it comes from in the sources
[18:06] <Riddell> (sometimes)
[18:15] <devfil__> Riddell: what are the differences between <package>-kde4 and <package>-data-kde4?
[18:16] <Riddell> devfil__: -data is for files which are the same on all architectures (i386, amd64), images and settings files usually
[18:17] <devfil__> Riddell: ... krita-kde4 already includes usr/share/kde4/services/kritatoolgrid.desktop
[18:17] <devfil__> usr/share/kde4/services/kritatoolperspectivegrid.desktop
[18:17] <devfil__> so this 2 files need to be moved to -date
[18:17] <devfil__> s/-date/data/
[18:19] <Riddell> yes, they should be
[18:19] <Riddell> if there's a krita-data-kde4 package
[18:19] <Riddell> it's only worth making a -data package if the data files are so large it would be worth saving the space on the repository server
[18:19] <Xand3r> vorian: i realy dont know, i dontgot it from the man
[18:21] <devfil__> Riddell: yes, I know. if the non-arch-dependent files are bigger they are installed by another package with all in architetture
[18:41] <ryanakca> Riddell: would there be interest in having a start page for 8.10?
[18:43]  * ryanakca is willing to propose it to the ML to see if there are any takers / people interested in taking care of it
[18:48] <Riddell> ryanakca: for firefox?  or konqueror?
[18:48] <Riddell> or are you talking about something else?
[18:50] <ryanakca> Riddell: start page, it could be for both, similar to what Ubuntu has, except much simpler, and KDE-ified.
[18:53] <ryanakca> Riddell: http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ ... it could be similar to the current Konqueror start page, with a Kubuntu logo, a google search box that has [x] Search the web  [ ] Search Kubuntu Documentation (Go!) , and underneath a tip of the day...
[18:59] <Riddell> I think the intrepid-firefox-kde spec may mention something like that
[18:59] <Riddell> yes, it would be nice
[19:02] <ryanakca> ok, I'll include it in the email, along with a mockup. I'm hoping to get all this out to the ML today or tomorrow
[19:20] <vorian> yay!
[19:20] <vorian> finnaly
[19:22] <Riddell> vorian: what's that?
[19:22] <vorian> kdelibs
[19:22] <vorian> took three tries to get it right
[19:26] <smarter> yay, my wireless card is finally working with intrepid :)
[19:32] <smarter> Riddell: kubuntu-desktop should depends on kde-core, noN
[19:32] <smarter> s/N/?/
[19:32] <smarter> or at least on kdelibs/kdebase
[19:37] <devfil__> Riddell: koffice2 build fine, now I'm fixing lintian warnings, some bugs etc...
[19:59] <Arby_> Riddell: you around?
[19:59] <Arby_> Riddell: I'm trying to backport ktorrent
[19:59] <Riddell> Arby_: for a bit
[20:00] <Arby_> currently it fails with http://paste.ubuntu.com/29688/
[20:00] <Arby_> I'm guessing it's a different filepath between hardy and intrepid
[20:00] <Riddell> are you using the deina/cdbs from hardy?
[20:00] <Arby_> no,
[20:01] <Riddell> I suspect it's easiest to use the whole debian/ from ktorrent-kde4 in hardy
[20:01] <Arby_> I did initially
[20:01] <Arby_> it filaed
[20:01] <Arby_> failed even
[20:01] <Arby_> can't remeber the error, let me look
[20:16] <Arby_> Riddell: hmm, to my surprise that built ok this time
[20:16] <Arby_> Riddell: now for the complications
[20:17]  * Riddell out
[20:17] <Arby_> nevermind then
[20:19] <Arby_> any motu type folks around who could offer some advice/sanity checking on a backport?
[20:25] <Arby_> JontheEchidna: you around?
[20:26] <Arby_> JontheEchidna: thought you might like to know that ktorrent 3.1.1 fixes the crash on closing for hardy
[20:45] <JontheEchidna> Arby_: Cool. :D
[20:46] <Arby_> JontheEchidna: another test would be nice. if I put the .deb up somewhere could you give it a spin?
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> sure
[20:46] <Arby_> hang on then
[20:49] <Arby_> JontheEchidna: http://drop.io/sirkasg
[20:50] <Arby_> package ^^
[20:50] <JontheEchidna> k
[20:51] <Tm_T> Riddell: yes, I should try cmake
[20:55] <JontheEchidna> Arby_: Works here too :)
[20:56] <Arby_> excellent
[20:56] <Arby_> the package needs a bit of sanity checking
[20:56] <Arby_> hopefully I can get it finished and uploaded tomorrow
[20:57] <JontheEchidna> btw, I noticed you changed the version from 1:3.0.1 to 3.1.1
[20:57] <Arby_> yes, should I have kept the 1:
[20:58] <Arby_> that's exactly why I said it needs checking
[20:58] <JontheEchidna> heh
[20:58] <Arby_> among other things
[21:07] <theunixgeek> I think there should be a Kubuntu/SuSE merge: KuSE :D
[21:08] <theunixgeek> that way, both debian and opensuse compatibility
[21:09] <davmor2> Riddell: ping
[21:13] <theunixgeek> will the kde 4 spin later be updated to include 4.1 ? and if I update to 4.1 will I get the new plasma window theme?
[21:14] <JontheEchidna> Does make -f debain/rules list-missing work for pbuilder?
[21:14] <theunixgeek> JontheEchidna: no
[21:15] <theunixgeek> JontheEchidna: I think you mean debian instead of debain :P
[21:15] <JontheEchidna> yes, I did
[21:15] <theunixgeek> :)
[22:10] <Xand3r> vorian are you there?
[22:11] <vorian> yes sir, i am now
[22:12] <Xand3r> sorry i dont want to sound like this
[22:12] <vorian> what can i do ye for?
[22:13] <Xand3r> its still the watch file sorry
[22:13] <vorian> no worries
[22:13] <vorian> is this for digicam?
[22:13] <Xand3r> http://sf.net/digikam/digikam-([\d\.]+)%(.*)\.tar\.bz2 debian uupdate
[22:13] <Xand3r> its dont work
[22:14] <Xand3r> vorian: yes for digikam
[22:14] <vorian> try http://sf.net/digikam/digikam-([0-9].*)\.tar\.bz2
[22:16] <Xand3r> vorian: i am creating an watchfile for 0.10.0-beta1
[22:16] <vorian> cool
[22:16] <vorian> that should work then
[22:16] <vorian> give it a whirl
[22:17] <Xand3r> vorian: what shuld work?
[22:17] <vorian> http://sf.net/digikam/digikam-([0-9].*)\.tar\.bz2
[22:17] <Xand3r> hmm
[22:17] <Xand3r> i try it
[22:18] <Xand3r> vorian: Newest version on remote site is 0.10.0-beta1, local version is 0.10.0~beta1
[22:18] <Xand3r> that shuld not happen
[22:24] <Xand3r> vorian: thats why i have no clue
[22:27] <vorian> is it the same source package?
[22:34] <Xand3r> sure
[22:43] <Xand3r> JontheEchidna: have you an idea?
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> about what?
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> oh, the watch file?
[22:44]  * JontheEchidna doesn't have a clue either
[22:44] <Xand3r> JontheEchidna: ok but thx
[22:45] <Xand3r> JontheEchidna: ok but thx
[22:45] <Xand3r> vorian: and thx to you
[22:46] <vorian> Xand3r: i gave you the answer to your question twice
[22:47] <vorian> local version = the package you are working on
[22:47] <vorian> remote site = place the .tar.gz comes from
[22:48] <Xand3r> vorian: i see i am to stupid to under stand your hints 3 times
[22:50] <vorian> no, that's not what I'm saying
[22:50] <vorian> :/
[22:54] <Xand3r> vorian: sure you dont say it^^, but i cant understand it, dont know why
[22:58] <Xand3r> vorian: if you have time and fun, may be you could it explain slow an in litle steps
[23:10] <jtechidna> <3 ccache
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> It makes pbuilding much more pleasent
[23:15] <Xand3r> gnaa
[23:16] <Riddell> davmor2: pong
[23:17] <davmor2> Riddell: did you want bugs writing for each of the issues I found or have you nailed some since?
[23:18] <Riddell> davmor2: best file them
[23:18] <davmor2> np's
[23:18] <Riddell> davmor2: have you done a successful install yet?
[23:19] <davmor2> Kub alt installed but was missing usplash which should be fixed now and had all the post install issues all the live are being redone again and ubiquity on Ubuntu seems to be working now
[23:20] <Riddell> looks like there's new images from 22:00
[23:21] <davmor2> broken usplash on live still
[23:21] <Riddell> and that would never do :)
[23:25] <Riddell> devfil__: what news with koffice?
[23:26] <devfil__> Riddell: all ok, it build fine and I've fixed some lintian warnings, errors
[23:27] <Riddell> devfil__: have you uploaded it to your PPA?
[23:27] <devfil__> Riddell: no, I'm looking at other lintian warnings in order to upload it
[23:27] <devfil__> but I think I've finished
[23:28] <devfil__> yes
[23:28] <Riddell> groovy, upload it to the PPA when you're done and I can copy it over to the main archive in the morning
[23:28] <devfil__> there are only 2 types of warnings
[23:28] <devfil__> binary-without-manpage
[23:28] <devfil__> and
[23:28] <devfil__> debian-changelog-file-is-a-symlink
[23:28] <Riddell> debian-changelog-file-is-a-symlink is a feature not a bug usually, it's done to save disk space
[23:29] <Riddell> binary-without-manpage, well with GUI apps most people will start the app to find out what it is
[23:29] <devfil__> Riddell: there is also a arch-dep-package-has-big-usr-share info
[23:29] <devfil__> for kformula-kde4 package
[23:30]  * JontheEchidna is away
[23:30] <devfil__> do you think I should make a data package for this?
[23:30] <Riddell> devfil__: no, it would just add a greater diff compared to debian
[23:31] <devfil__> Riddell: ok, then I'm going to upload the package to my ppa
[23:32] <Riddell> great
[23:32] <Riddell> evening sebas
[23:37] <davmor2> Riddell: seems the the livefs build was old so it hasn't updated the fix to ubiquity either :(
[23:38] <sebas> hi :)
[23:39] <davmor2> Riddell: bug 251315 the printing one is already done 251111 IIRC
[23:40] <davmor2> I think the others were to do with kdesudo not functioning
[23:48] <devfil__> Riddell: however I think the debdiff between the new koffice2 and debian koffice is very huge
[23:54] <devfil__> Riddell: 7496 lines of debdiff