Coggzbye all....00:03
HardDragobye coggz00:03
Coggzit is midnight in england and I need sleep...00:03
hdevalenceso my sound just stopped working.00:12
hdevalenceand it's rather strange00:13
hdevalencewhen I try to run speaker-test I get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave \n Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy"00:14
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ubottupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)00:55
posingaspopularhmm no easy way to edit them?00:55
posingaspopular!info pdfedit00:55
ubottupdfedit (source: pdfedit): Editor for manipulating PDF documents. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.2-5ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 2901 kB, installed size 8596 kB00:55
posingaspopulargroovy, party on #kubuntu00:56
histoOh its crazy in hurrr00:57
sgodsellalso if you don't mind beta.   You can also use openoffice 3 now00:59
sgodsellfor pdfs01:00
histoyay and docx01:00
sgodselloo3 is very nice01:00
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posingaspopularthanks sgodsell, the official release is in december am i correct?01:02
sgodsellI forget when it is released, but you can go to the website to find out01:02
nusakanHello. Could someone with more expertise help me to get my laptop to recognize my new external hard drive?01:02
sgodsellBut I am using the beta right now, and I really like it.  Also it is stable for me01:03
histonusakan: is it usb?01:03
nusakanit's usb01:03
histoOkay just plug it in and check lsusb01:04
nusakanI need to emphasise how little I know what I'm doing. To "check Isusb", is that something you do on a command line, or...01:05
posingaspopularnusakan: yes open up konsole01:06
posingaspopularand type 'lsusb'01:06
nusakanit says 'comand not found'01:07
sgodsellsudo lsusb01:08
nusakanno, thats not it either01:08
sgodselloh wait path01:08
sgodsellsu -l01:08
sgodsellthen lsusb01:09
sgodsellor you could su -l -c lsusb01:09
nusakanit says unknown id01:10
sgodsellwhat does dmesg say?01:10
sgodsellthe end of the log01:11
sgodselldmesg | tail -n 1001:11
nusakanUnknown id: isusb01:11
sgodsellnusakan, that is what dmesg stated?01:12
nusakanyes, if dmesg is the response, then yes01:13
sgodselluse  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/01:13
eigenvalueHello. has someone encountered Problems with Kaffeine & xv (xvideo with xine) & the recent Nvidia driver ("nvidia-glx-new") & the Nvidia 8xxx series? I get blueish colors instead of skin-colors, when i start a video. I could use some help with that.01:15
nusakanOk. Now what?01:17
nusakanIt's http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29443/01:18
sgodsellwell what is the url that it01:18
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sgodsellnusakan, well first of all it is   lsusb  not  isusb01:19
nusakanIs that a capital i or the vertical line, or what?01:19
sgodselland if you wanted to use su with a command then you need to have -c command01:20
sgodsellCapital I?01:20
sgodselltype in01:20
sgodsellsu -l -c lsusb01:21
sgodselll  - for the letter L01:21
sgodselllowercase l01:21
nusakanthe same for lsusb? l is an L?01:21
sgodselllist usb01:22
nusakandmesg "su: Authentication failure"01:23
sgodsellsudo lsusb01:23
sgodsellokay unplug your hard drive for 7 seconds then plug it in01:25
sgodsellthen paste the results of01:25
sgodsellsudo dmesg01:25
sgodsellthe last 20 lines will do01:26
sgodsellhmmm, I see you have an unknown partition problem01:29
bastardwhens 4.1 coming out?01:29
sgodsellpartition table01:29
sgodsellis this drive formated nusakan01:29
nusakanI don't think so, I don't know how to do that01:30
sgodsell[ 4083.508000]  sdb: unknown partition table01:30
sgodsellokay well then you have to format it01:30
sgodsellwell partition it and then format it01:30
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Dragnslcramdpengun- http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule01:31
nusakanOk, should I look that up on Google?01:31
sgodsellwell you have to decide if you are going to make it one big partition or multiple partitions?01:32
nusakanOr is it something simple that you can just tell me?01:32
nusakanwhat are the advantages?01:32
sgodsellwell what are you using this drive for backup?01:33
sgodsellif backup then, just make it one big partition then01:33
nusakanYes. So, Open Office documents, maybe a few songs, a few movies. But yeah just backup i think01:34
sgodsellis it going to used on windows boxes as well?01:34
sgodsellokay then make 2 partitions.  1 for ntfs and one for linux01:35
sgodselllike ext301:35
nusakanWait, will I not be able to open in Windows things ive saved in linux?01:36
nusakanand what's ntfs?01:36
cucumber_ok I'm new to kde been using gnome for a while any kde way to make a single user PC log in with the only user name at boot?01:36
sgodselloh linux can read and write ntfs as well01:36
cucumber_on gnome I would use the session manager to set these options01:37
sgodsellnusakan, ntfs is for windows file system01:37
sgodselllike 2000, 2003, XP and vista use it01:38
DragnslcrAnd NT01:38
DragnslcrHence the name01:38
nusakanfs is file system?01:38
nonewmsgshow do you mount a bin/cue combo?01:38
sgodsellNT is that still around  ;-)01:38
DragnslcrYes, fs usually stands for file system01:39
nusakanwas that the one with a bull for a logo?01:39
sgodsellbut I was referring to the NT os  ;-)01:39
sgodselllike NT 3.51,  NT 401:39
sgodsellbrings back memories01:39
DragnslcrTechnically yes, since 2000/XP/Vista are all versions of NT01:39
nusakanSo will i have to save things to more than one place?01:40
DragnslcrYou mean files that you want both Windows and Ubuntu to be able to access?01:41
sgodsellwell nusakan there is another option you could make the whole thing ntfs01:41
nusakanWhat would be the disadvantage to that?01:42
sgodsellbecause linux can read or write to ntfs01:42
DragnslcrI think Linux's ntfs drivers are 100% now, but I'm not entirely certain of that01:42
sgodsellthey are01:42
DragnslcrI believe you can get ext3 drivers for Windows as well01:43
sgodselljust format it in linux.  Don't let vista format it01:43
sgodsellyou can do that as well01:43
sgodsellbut then you need to install the drivers on every windows box01:43
sgodsellit really is up to you nusakan.  How you want to do things01:44
DragnslcrIf Windows is running on a different computer, you would use Samba anyway01:44
sgodsellDragnslcr, he wants to take a usb drive around the place for backup01:44
nusakanReally? Maybe I don't need the ntfs partition then. See the only reason I would use it with a windows box would be if my laptop crashed and I needed a file I had backed up.01:45
nusakanI got this in preparation for leaving for college01:45
DragnslcrYeah, if it's a USB thumb drive, ntfs would probably be best01:46
sgodsellwell in that case format anyway you want then  ;-)01:46
sgodsellI think it is a 250gig drive01:46
sgodsellis that right nusakan ?01:46
* sgodsell wishes they would come out with a 250 thumb drive01:47
nusakanIt's not a thumb drive it's an external. I don't know if that makes a difference01:47
sgodsellno it doesn't01:47
nusakanThen how should I format it?01:48
ironman_hi f@lks01:48
sgodsellhi ironman_01:48
nusakanI mean, yeah it's 250 gigs01:48
nusakanWhy does that matter?01:48
DragnslcrDo you plan on using it frequently for copying files between computers, or is it just a backup?01:49
nusakanProbably just backup01:49
sgodsellnusakan, you decide how you want it.   I know what I would do.  Since it is holding data.  I would also format it with an encrypted filesystem (luks)01:49
sgodsellbut then again windows would have a problem with that01:50
sgodsellunless you go with truecrypt01:50
nusakanHmm. I like secrecy01:50
nusakanSee, I don't know what any of this means01:50
nusakandoes that mean it will be password protected or what?01:50
DragnslcrIf it's primarily backup for an Ubuntu computer, I'd make it ext301:51
sgodsellyes it does01:51
DragnslcrIf you need to recover stuff from it to a Windows box, you can always use an Ubuntu LiveCD01:51
nusakanTo put ubuntu on the windows box?01:52
sgodsellDragnslcr, yeah have it boot off the 250 hard drive.01:53
DragnslcrYeah, you could even partition the USB drive and do a full Ubuntu install to it01:53
sgodsellno nusakan have ubuntu installed on a partition on the usb01:53
DragnslcrNot all computers can boot from a USB device though01:54
sgodsellthat is true01:54
DragnslcrThough you could still use a LiveCD and read everything from it01:54
sgodsellit really depends on how old the systems are ?01:54
DragnslcrYeah, most, if not all, current motherboards can boot from USB01:55
nusakanThis would be in case I can't get to a linux box to recover my files?01:55
DragnslcrMotherboards that are a couple years old might not01:55
sgodsellso have 2 partitons.  1 windows with a livecd image and another partiton that would boot to ubuntu directly (usb booting)01:55
sgodselltherefore all angles are covered01:55
getBoaIs anybody here running kubuntu on laptop ? I d like configure the FN key and the Volume... any idea ?01:56
DragnslcrNo, your 2 partitions would be just like an internal drive, / and /home01:57
DragnslcrWell, and a swap partition01:57
DragnslcrSo I guess 301:57
nusakanI guess I need to find my livecd. Where would I put my files then?01:57
SebNaitsabesif I remember correctly  Outlook can just have it's settings imported into Thunderbird  when both are running on Windows.  however what I am wondering is if I can get the settings from Outlook running in Windows into  Thunderbird  running in Ubuntu,  without  having to say  first install Thunderbird  into Windows and then copy the relivant setting files over to the one in Ubuntu01:57
SebNaitsabesalso if I remember correctlly Outlook has it's own settings for each user, like Thunderbird has profiles01:57
sgodsellon the main linux partition01:58
nusakanok. How do I do this?01:58
DragnslcrYou'd want to do your backups to /home/yourusername/backups01:58
DragnslcrOr whatever directory you want under /home/username01:59
DragnslcrIn general, you want a separate partition for /home01:59
nusakanHow do I format it?01:59
DragnslcrThat way if you have system problems, you can reinstall to the / partition without losing user data01:59
sgodsellI have to go01:59
sgodselltake care everyone02:00
nusakanThank you so much02:00
sgodsellsorry to leave you nusakan02:00
nusakanNo, thank you for all your help02:00
sgodsellbut Dragnslcr looks like he can help you02:00
sgodselltake care02:00
nusakanSo how do I format it? And will I need my livecd handy?02:01
DragnslcrIf you're already running Ubuntu, no02:01
DragnslcrAre you using Gnome or KDE?02:01
nusakanKDE, although Gnome is still on here I think02:01
Blah332i have a huge problem... i have no upload.....02:02
SyderoGNOME SUCKS!02:02
Blah332i ran my speed test on http://www.auditmypc.com/speedtest.asp and speedtest.net both of them report no upload....02:02
DragnslcrYou can use QtParted or gparted to format the drive02:02
Syderoprobably a firewall rule02:02
Blah332and i cant open gmail....02:02
Blah332i have no firewall?02:02
Blah332and if i boot into windows everything works fine....02:03
nusakaninstalling QtParted now02:03
Blah332any idea?02:04
Dragnslcrnusakan- you'll want three partitions, one ext3 of about 20 GB, one swap of about 2-4 GB (depending on how much memory you have), and the rest as an ext302:04
SyderoWhy does Ubuntu use ext3, when ReiserFS is usually faster?02:05
nusakanHow many gigs will that give me for files? its 250GB in total02:05
Blah332please help me...02:06
nusakanis my external sda or sdb?02:06
nusakannever mind02:07
Dragnslcrnusakan- you'll probably have about 220 GB on the /home partition02:07
DragnslcrMaybe less. I don't feel like doing the hard drive math02:08
nusakani have the drive selected. What do I do?02:08
DragnslcrActually, you don't really need to do the partitioning now. You can do it when you install Kubuntu to the drive02:09
nusakanHow do I do that?02:09
DragnslcrIt'll ask you02:10
nusakanOh, and I don't have the newest version of ubuntu on here, is that a problem?02:10
getBoaIve installed some applications by apt-get but the the icons on menu does not appear... why ? running on kde 402:10
DragnslcrNope, but you'll probably want an 8.04.1 CD to install to the USB drive02:10
asobiis there a way to retrieve typed characters in konsole?02:11
nusakanSo I do need a CD to do this?02:11
Syderopress the up arrow02:11
DragnslcrYeah, you'll want an install CD02:11
fackerwhat when did the last non alpha version of kubuntu released?02:11
asobiwhen it was hidden02:12
asobilike a password02:12
asobiwhich was not echoed02:12
Dragnslcrfacker- 8.04 was released in April (hence the 04)02:12
Dragnslcrfacker- I believe 8.04.1 was released this month02:12
nusakanDo I need to go out and get one, or use the one that came with my laptop, or what?02:12
Dragnslcrnusakan- you probably want a new one02:12
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nusakanWait why am I putting those other partitions on again? Do I really need them?02:13
Syderothe installer does it automatically02:13
Syderoyes it's recommended that you have a separate partition for swap for some reason02:14
SyderoI guess to reduce fragmentation or something02:14
nusakanSo, I can't just use this the same way I would a jump drive? I have to have an OS on it?02:14
DragnslcrThe swap file system is optimized for swap space02:15
Syderosure sure02:15
DragnslcrLinux generally doesn't use a swap file the way Windows does02:15
Syderowindows doesn't really use a pagefile02:15
Syderounless an app requires it02:15
Dragnslcrnusakan- you can use it as just a plain drive if you want. If you do a full install, though, you can use it to boot Kubuntu on another machine02:15
DragnslcrSydero- um, huh?02:16
nusakanHmm. That could be an advantage. Would it have all my programs and such?02:16
DragnslcrNo, it would be an entirely separate installation02:17
nusakanBut i could put whatever programs i wanted on it02:17
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DragnslcrYou might be able to set it up so that instead of installing Kubuntu to that drive, you do something like rsync your entire internal drive to it02:17
DragnslcrNot entirely sure how well that would work out02:18
DragnslcrI guess it depends on how much you want to play with it02:18
DragnslcrIf it's just a backup drive, the simplest thing is to just make a single ext3 partition on it02:18
DragnslcrThen worry about recovering files from it with a Windows box later if you need to02:19
nusakanCould I use it as a plain drive until I find a new ubuntu CD, then reformat it?02:19
DragnslcrYou can repartition and reformat a drive as many times as you want02:19
DragnslcrJust be aware that you'll lose everything on it when you do02:20
nusakanI can just temporarily save it to my laptop.02:20
nusakanActually it will all probably be on my laptop already02:20
nusakanSo, where do I find a new Ubuntu CD?02:21
DragnslcrIt sounds like you're pretty new to all of this, so simpler might be better for now02:21
nusakanOk thanks02:22
nusakanalright i think ive formated it02:22
nusakanhow do i get to it?02:23
DragnslcrSystem Settings -> Advanced -> Disks02:23
DragnslcrYou should be able to enable from there02:23
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nusakanmake the type ext3?02:26
DragnslcrYeah, it should be detected as ext302:27
nusakanMount point?02:27
nusakanWhat do I make the mount point?02:28
DragnslcrUsually something in /media02:28
DragnslcrYou can name it whatever you'd like, maybe /media/backups02:29
Syderoit can be anywhere you want02:29
nusakanI made it /media/JustinCase02:31
DragnslcrHeh, that'll work02:31
nusakanDevice: by name?02:31
nusakanDoes that mean I name it there?02:32
DragnslcrI don't think you need to do anything for the advanced settings02:32
DragnslcrIs there anything in the UUID box?02:32
nusakanIt's not selected02:33
nusakanShould I select it?02:33
DragnslcrYou can probably leave it as by name for now02:33
nusakanCan I name it anything02:33
DragnslcrShould be something /dev/sdb102:33
DragnslcrNo, it has to be the /dev entry for it02:33
nusakanDoes it need to match the mount point?02:34
DragnslcrNo, it isn't the mount point02:34
DragnslcrIt's the /dev entry02:34
DragnslcrProbably /dev/sdb102:34
DragnslcrIt should have been autodetected though02:35
nusakanso try /dev/sdb102:35
DragnslcrIt should have already been listed02:36
nusakanIt was <device>02:36
DragnslcrAre you trying to create it through System Settings?02:36
nusakanI thought I already formated it02:36
nusakanIm in system settings now02:37
DragnslcrIf you formatted it, try unplugging it and plugging it back in02:38
DragnslcrKubuntu should autodetect it02:38
nusakanWhere will it show up? The mount point?02:39
DragnslcrShould put an icon on your desktop, too02:40
nusakanWhere will it be?02:40
DragnslcrIt'll probably mount to /media/sdb1 or something02:41
DragnslcrDefinitely something in /media02:41
nusakanNo icon02:41
nusakanit has the folder i made for a mount point, is that it?02:41
nusakanoops, i think i might not have formatted it right, hang on02:43
nusakanI didn't click "commit" before. Duurrr02:44
DragnslcrThat'll do it02:45
nusakanOk I did that, then unplugged it and plugged it back in. Still don't see anything02:46
ubuntu_when i try to install kubuntu it doesn shows me the partitions i have made but only shows one partition .. that is the hardisk. now i used qtparted and it gave the following msg. whats wrong any help? ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo qtparted    Error: Can't have overlapping partitions.02:46
Dragnslcrnusakan- try check System Settings -> Disks again, see if it's listed02:47
ubuntu_Dragnslcr:  the partitions are show in disk mounting area02:48
nusakanit has the mount point as /proc. Should I make it that folder i made?02:49
DragnslcrHm, /proc is weird02:49
DragnslcrAre you sure it's that disk? Right model and size?02:49
nusakanI think so02:50
ubuntu_Dragnslcr:  i think there migt be a problem with my hd. how can i check02:50
ubuntu_Dragnslcr:  the hd. or partitions02:50
nusakancan't i just change the mount point?02:50
Dragnslcrnusakan- if you're sure it's the right drive, sure02:51
Dragnslcrnusakan- what does it say under Device?02:51
nusakan1 Partition 232.9 Gb02:51
nusakanWhich I think is what I did02:52
ubuntu_Dragnslcr:  the hd. or partitions02:52
ubuntu_Dragnslcr:  i think there migt be a problem with my hd. how can i check02:52
Dragnslcrnusakan- in the Device column02:53
Dragnslcrnusakan- should start with /dev02:53
DragnslcrThought you said that was the mount point02:53
nusakanthe mount point is /proc02:53
nusakanthe type is proc02:53
DragnslcrSo what's in the Device column?02:54
nusakanand the device is proc02:54
DragnslcrGo back to QtParted and have it scan for disks02:54
DragnslcrMake sure it's really there02:54
posingaspopularwhy cant you do this using fdisk -l and fstab?02:54
ubuntu_are you talking to me02:55
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nusakanmust have forgotten to say the type of partition. Reformatting now...02:56
tomahasamootbut apt manager says I don't have rt installed02:57
tomahasamootwhat's up w/ that?02:57
nusakanIt's gone02:58
nusakanfrom system settings02:59
tomahasamootwhat's gone from system settings?03:00
nusakanthe drive, and it's gone from qtparted and it's making noises03:00
Dragnslcrnusakan- did qtparted finish?03:00
DragnslcrIt may still be formatting03:00
nusakani think so03:00
nusakani thought it did03:01
nusakanshould i unplug and reformat?03:01
nusakanqtparted is closed and it is still making noises03:03
nusakanwill i mess it up unplugging it?03:04
DragnslcrI dunno03:05
DragnslcrProbably won't do any physical damage, and it's not like you have to worry about losing data from it03:06
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nusakanyou don't think it's overheating, do you?03:08
DragnslcrI wouldn't think a USB drive would have an overheating problem03:09
nusakanWell, for whatever reason, even after un/plugging QtParted still can't see it03:10
nusakanDid I break it somehow?03:11
DragnslcrI don't have much experience with external drives, so I'm not quite sure what the problem would be03:11
DragnslcrWhenever I plug in a thumb drive, Kubuntu detects it automatically03:12
nusakanyou think restarting my computer might help?03:14
DragnslcrYou can try03:15
manofirst time using kubuntu hardy i can not navegate with konkeror ??03:16
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nusakanDragonslcr, are you still there?03:21
ubuntu_any good  harddisk diagnostic and repairing tool in repos?03:25
Dr_williswhat filesystem are you trying to fix?03:33
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epimethanybody use kftpgrabber?  I think it doesn't accept usernames with an @ symbol03:41
geniiepimeth: I'm pretty sure that would be an invalid username anyhow03:45
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epimethgenii: its valid... worked for me in windows03:46
Dr_willisthat proves its valid... :)03:47
* genii almost dies laughing03:47
Dr_willisvalid but very very very weird?03:47
nusakanI am trying to format an external hard drive. I was working on it before, and I've managed to get qtparted to tell me that it can't make a new partition table for it. What do I do?03:48
Dr_williscould use dd to zero the drive.. and try to reparttiin it03:48
epimethits yahoo... they force you to use the username is <your yahoo username>@<your domain>03:49
epimethand yahoo uses linux servers so you can't blame it on windows :-p03:49
ezequieli need some help03:49
nusakanWhat is dd03:49
epimeth!help | ezequiel03:49
ubottuezequiel: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:49
epimeth!ask | ezequiel03:49
ubottuezequiel: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)03:49
ezequielhow can i use my ipod in ubuntu03:50
Dr_williserr.. that would be an email address...    ...03:51
epimethezequiel: you plug it in....03:51
epimethDr_willis: thats not actually an email address03:51
Dr_willisim still trying to figure out what ftp grabber is grabbing from yahoo...03:51
geniinusakan: It sort of means DiskDupe     you can make an exact copy of something like a hard drive to another hard drive or to a file, or the other way round (the usual use)03:51
Dr_willisepimeth,  ive learned to avoude Yahoo. :)03:51
ubuntu_any good harddisk diagnostic and repairing too in repos?03:52
Dr_williswhat filesystem are you trying to fix? ubuntu_03:52
epimethDr_willis: yea... weren't you in on the conversation (me venting) on sunday?03:52
epimethezequiel: ubuntu or kubuntu?03:52
Dr_willisepimeth,  been busy with the wife.. listening to her rant..03:52
geniinusakan: If you put in konqueror the URL  man:/dd     it will tell you a bit about how to use it03:53
Dr_willisYahoo manages to buy up these other companeis/tools i use.. and ruin them03:53
geniiDr_willis: Computer Associates used to do that to me03:53
Dr_willisusing 'dd' to zero out a hard drive is a little extreme. it will whipe all data and all partition information.03:54
geniinusakan: I do not assist in private message, only in public channel.03:54
Dr_willisgenii,  Last i looked Yahoo is still saying my 'lifetime upgrades to musicmatchjukebox' is being 'worked on' :) since they bought the company.. but they still push  me info on buying it again. :P03:55
nusakanNo, that's fine. There's no data on it. I'm just trying to format it so I can use it. It's brand-new.03:55
Dr_willisThis is a normal ide/sata drive? Weird that you cant partition/format it witgh the normal gparted or other tools03:55
ubuntu_any good harddisk diagnostic and repairing too in repos?03:56
ezequielhow can i use my ipod in ubuntu03:56
geniinusakan: But to answer, no the normal use is not for something like to wipe a disk. Although it can be used for that with something like   sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1    (if sda1 was the partition)03:56
Dr_willisubuntu_,   for the 3rd time what filesystem are you trying to fix?03:56
ubuntu_Dr_willis:  i have ext3 and fat32       (i didnt saw your msg. coz it didnt had my nick in it)03:57
geniinusakan: For formatting just use something like    sudo mkfs.fstype /dev/diskname         eg:   mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda103:57
ubuntu_Dr_willis:  i have hitachi03:57
geniisudo in front of that last example there03:57
Dr_willisubuntu_,  theres the standard fsck command that can check both those filesystems.03:58
ubuntu_Dr_willis:  whats that03:58
Dr_willisubuntu_,  the standard 'file system check' command thats in every linux disrto out just about.03:59
Dr_willis  fsck.ext3      fsck.msdos     fsck.vfat03:59
Dr_willistry 'fsck <tab> <tab> ' to see all the filesystems fsck can check.03:59
ubuntu_Dr_willis:  hm. ok03:59
Dr_willisHmm the bot is asleep? :(04:00
epimethezequiel: I don't know what gnome apps are installed for ipod use... you should ask in #ubuntu04:00
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot04:00
geniiubottu awaken04:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about awaken04:00
epimethezequiel: this is the help channel for kubuntu, not ubuntu04:00
epimethDr_willis: ahahaha... I'm an idiot... I put in the wrong username.  I don't know if it works in kftpgrabber, but konqui and dolphin work all right04:01
Dr_willisepimeth,  :) 'pebkac'04:02
geniinusakan: Does /dev/sdb exist?04:02
epimethDr_willis: eye dee ten kay04:02
nusakanqtparted can see it, it just can't reformat it04:03
nusakanAlso, if anything i say doesn't make sense, it's because i don't know what im talking about04:04
geniinusakan: Try /dev/urandom   instead of /dev/zero        If you really wanted to wipe it before formatting it.04:04
geniinusakan: Although just formatting it should be fine04:04
nusakanI think i did something wrong before. I hope by wiping it I hope to solve the problem04:05
nusakani cant format it, because of... whatever it is i did04:05
geniinusakan: PErhaps your drive is going?04:05
geniinusakan: Because the "Input/output error" of your paste indicates something hardware possibly04:06
geniinusakan: eg: Going bad, failing, crashing, etc04:06
epimethnusakan: have you tried a low level format?04:07
* genii sips a coffee and thinks04:07
nusakanI just got it today! I can't have broken it just putting it together right?04:07
Dr_willisnusakan,  err.. you did 'partion' the drive in to 1 or more partition? then try to format the partitions?04:07
* Dr_willis goes back to disk drive basics. :)04:07
nusakanThey don't show up04:07
nusakanwhat's a low level format?04:08
geniiMaybe you had something like a usb stick in that it thinks is still there as sdb. Or that it displaced the drive that used to be sdb previously to some other designation04:08
Dr_williswith gparted, one normally would partition the drive. hit apply, then gparted should rescan, and show the new partitions. its possible a reboot may be needed to make them show up04:08
nusakanso maybe put it in another usb port?04:08
Dr_willisor  you could use the old fashioned command line and fdisk, and format the drive that way and perhaps see any error messages, or info in the 'dmesg' command output04:09
epimethnusakan: "formatting" means erasing the table of contents and rebuilding it.  it doesn't actually erase data on the drive.  a low level format writes either all 0s or random gibberish to the entire drive, thus fixing many common ailments (like bad sectors)04:09
geniiUsing w to exit fdisk also works to refresh the partition info04:09
nusakanhow do I do a low level format?04:09
Dr_willisgenii,  ive seen a FEW machines/cases wher ive had to reboot..  old  drive/ide controller i think. havent had to do it in ages. :)04:09
Dr_willisnusakan,  you most likely do NOT need todo a 'low level format' thats a last ditch  thing to try04:10
geniinusakan: I recommend also Dr_willis' recommendation of closing gparted and using command line with some assistance from here04:10
Dr_willisnusakan, this is a external usb hard drive? you just want a single partition on it? or somthing more complex?04:10
nusakanfor now, single partition04:11
nusakanive got konsole open04:11
Dr_williswhats the device of the disk?04:11
geniinusakan: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb04:11
Dr_willissda sdb sdc?  (be sure you got the right disk)04:11
geniiDr_willis: sdb04:11
Dr_willisare you REALLY REALLY sure its sdb? :)04:11
Dr_willis'final answer' ?04:11
nusakanhow do i make sure?04:12
nusakanpretty sure sdb04:12
geniiDr_willis: (from previous)Maybe you had something like a usb stick in that it thinks is still there as sdb. Or that it displaced the drive that used to be sdb previously to some other designation04:12
Dr_willis'sudo fdisk -l' may give some good info.04:12
Dr_willismy fdisk -l shows info on all disks.. for example i KNOW my usb drive is  a specific size.. so i see the info04:12
Dr_willisDisk /dev/sdb: 2029 MB, 2029518848 bytes04:13
Dr_willisso i know its sdb. :)04:13
geniinusakan: the -l is a - then a little L04:13
Dr_willisif you cant get any better info from 'sudo fdisk -l' then that.. you got issues. :)04:13
Dr_willisheh heh..04:13
bdizzlehow do you use scp to transfer an entire directory, rather than trying to zip the directory, send it, then unzip it?04:14
Dr_willisl as in ls as in LiSt04:14
Dr_willisbdizzle,  i think it can use the same options as cp.. so the -r or -R shoudl work.. but i rarely use scp04:14
epimethbdizzle: scp -r user@host:/path/to/dirname user@host:/path/to/otherdirname/04:15
nusakanso "my fdisk -l"?04:15
geniinusakan: JUST:     sudo fdisk -l04:15
Dr_willisnusakan,  my?  where did that come from... 'sudo fdisk -l'04:15
geniinusakan: When in doubt copy and paste from here04:15
Dr_willisinstall pastebinit also. :) then ya can do a 'sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit'04:16
Dr_willismy fdisk output -> http://pastebin.com/f722e50cc04:16
khaije1i need a gui for a vm i'm building, what is the best way? i probably won't use it most of the time04:16
khaije1i was thinking fluxbox?04:17
* genii hisses at Dr_willis' HTFS partition04:17
Dr_willisheh heh.04:17
epimethDr_willis: pastebinit?  awesome... totally installing that!04:17
Dr_willisepimeth,  :)04:17
geniinusakan: According to that you don't have an sdb04:18
geniinusakan: Only 6 partitions on sda04:18
epimethniiiice!!! I didn't know pastebinit existed :-)04:18
geniiepimeth: I find your enthusiasm for pastebinit totally amusing :)04:19
epimethgenii: I'm glad you appreciate it04:19
geniinusakan: You have 1 or 2 hard drives in your computer?04:20
* genii suspects hard drive failure04:20
nusakanUh... 1? I think?04:20
geniinusakan: Ok. So to try clarifying:   drive1 =sda   drive2=sdb Drive3=sdc   and so on   drive1partition1=sda1 drive2partition5=sdb5   and so on04:21
geniinusakan: What exactly is the problem in the beginning that lead you to think something needed to be done?04:22
genii(wiping or formatting or such)04:23
nusakanwell I wanted to use my new external hard drive04:23
nusakanso i tried to format it04:23
nusakanbut kubuntu still wouldn't recognize it04:23
geniinusakan: OK.Do you recall the command or procedure you used, at least somewhat?04:23
nusakanand then i couldn't even reformat it04:23
nusakansort of04:24
nusakani was formating it with qtparted a 1 big ext3 partition04:24
nusakanand i *might* have unplugged it while it was still working or something04:25
geniinusakan: OK. Is it a USB or Firewire ?04:25
geniinusakan: OK. Unplug it from the computer but leave it powered on. Then turn the drive off. Plug back into computer. Turn it on. Wait maybe 30 seconds then pastebin rsults of command: dmesg|tail04:26
geniinusakan: The | in the command is pipe symbol usually above Enter key04:27
nusakanit doesn't have it's own power source04:27
abwhostwcan anyone help me about kthe operator system linux04:27
nusakanjust unplug the usb?04:27
geniinusakan: Then unplug, wait 30 secs, replug. Then the command04:28
ironman_what is the prob abwhostw04:28
abwhostwI want to make my desktop like as server04:28
ironman_so ??04:29
abwhostwand the linux is complicate04:29
ironman_dont u know how to configure ur desktop?04:29
abwhostwhow cuz I first time using linux04:30
abwhostwbefore I have only windows server04:30
geniiabwhostw: Kubuntu is not the ideal platform to run as a server. Most servers do not have a local user which is at keyboard and using machine this way but instead are accessed only by other machines remotely getting web pages or so.04:30
geniinusakan: Reading04:30
epimethabwhostw: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html04:30
geniinusakan: Looks like your drive is kaput, sorry to say04:30
nusakanI broke it?04:31
abwhostwok I have the Cd of the server ubuntu04:31
abwhostwbut is not work with my pc04:31
geniinusakan: That is my best guess, yes.04:31
geniinusakan: To make sure, perhaps reboot with the drive plugged in. Then return here and pastebin the entire results of command: dmesg for examination04:32
epimethabwhostw: what do you mean?  and what is your native language, you might find it easier speaking to people who can speak it04:32
nusakanDo you think it was when i put it in the enclosure, or formating it, or overheating, or just a defective product?04:32
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geniinusakan: Probably during either overheating or just defective04:33
ubottuLa comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe04:33
* genii smacks epimeth04:33
* epimeth is properly shamed04:33
nusakanwell, i might have a warranty on it. Ill go ahead and try rebooting then dmesg04:33
nusakanback in a minute04:33
abwhostwI don't want arabic support04:34
abwhostwI want one tell me in english04:34
epimethabwhostw: okay... so what is the problem?  you can't install kubuntu?04:34
abwhostwI all ready install04:35
abwhostwI gone explain to u04:35
epimethabwhostw: so read the link I sent you. it will teach you everything you need to know about configuring an ubuntu server04:35
abwhostwI have the kubuntu all ready installed on my pc how can I make that server04:35
abwhostwI know04:36
posingaspopularabwhostw: what kind of server04:36
posingaspopularwhat do you want to do with the files?04:36
geniiabwhostw: What kind of serving did you have in mind?04:36
helpthisnoobieonce again i need help04:36
posingaspopulardo you want to host music, do you want to run a website, etc.04:36
helpthisnoobiei've been searching to no avail04:36
abwhostwI want kubunt for web hosting04:36
posingaspopular!info apache04:37
ubottuPackage apache does not exist in hardy04:37
geniiapache2 ;)04:37
posingaspopularhelpthisnoobie: ask away04:37
posingaspopular!info apache204:37
helpthisnoobieeverytime i minimize a window, it is no longer shown in the task bar04:37
ubottuapache2 (source: apache2): Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1ubuntu0.3 (hardy), package size 43 kB, installed size 100 kB04:37
epimethabwhostw: then if you scroll down a bit on the page I sent you you will see this link for "Web Servers" : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/web-servers.html04:37
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about hackin04:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about hacking04:38
epimethSydero: who was that for?04:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tripwire04:38
abwhostwman i want to install let help me04:38
geniiabwhostw: I would suggest instead of separately installing packages to support the webserver, instead to install package called tasksel      Then issue in a console: sudo tasksel           then choose the LAMP server to install04:38
helpthisnoobiealso I accidently removed so some applets from the task bar I dont know how to get them back04:38
Syderoyou removed the task manaer04:38
Syderoadd it back04:39
harpreetabwhostw what you want to install?04:39
abwhostwweb server04:39
bazhanghelpthisnoobie, right click add04:39
harpreetabwhostw: apache!04:39
abwhostwI have all ready server with data center and I pay money04:39
harpreetabwhostw: !apache04:39
abwhostwI don't want to pay every month 340 $04:39
geniiabwhostw: Please pay attention to my last remark to you then04:39
harpreetset up apache04:40
helpthisnoobiethe network icon, the batterry icon, and wallet icon were all together but i dont know how to get them back04:40
geniiharpreet: It's better to tasksel and do LAMP   otherwise need to install php mysql and on and on for support separately each time04:40
harpreetabwhostw: genii is right u can install LAMP04:40
abwhostwhow to install04:40
posingaspopularabwhostw: to install software in ubuntu04:41
harpreetabwhostw: go to synaptec package manager and install there04:41
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate04:41
posingaspopularah wrong factoid...04:41
Syderohelpthisnoobie, just install all the widgets again04:41
abwhostwgive me the link of the lamp04:41
geniiabwhostw: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install tasksel             When you do that, select LAMP Server or LAMP Install    from the list04:41
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:41
geniiThere is no "ubuntu-server" metapackage.04:42
Syderothere are many types of servers04:42
helpthisnoobieso they are called widgets04:43
Dr_williswe want to serve up Ubuntus! :)04:43
geniiSydero: He wants some generalised to replace his apparently inadequate hosted boxes04:43
Syderoinstead of installing ubuntu04:43
helpthisnoobieunder 'add applets' or wat04:43
Syderofind a custom generalized server build04:43
Syderoright click task bar04:44
* genii gets some more Advil04:44
Syderoor just figure out what you need04:45
Syderoand use adept04:45
nusakanHey guys04:45
Dr_williscustom generalized  :)04:45
helpthisnoobieok i get 'add applet to panel', 'add application to panel', 'remove from panel',04:45
Syderoadd applet04:45
Syderooh and virtualize everything while you're at it :P04:46
geniiabwhostw: After you install tasksel    you need to run it, I omitteed this by accident on the last instruction.   To run it after install, issue:  sudo tasksel04:46
nusakanDr_Willis http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29490/04:47
abwhostwhow I did get it anything04:47
helpthisnoobiei think i found it04:47
geniinusakan: Is that your dmesg ?04:47
Dr_willisNot a good sign nusakan  --->     [  122.808000] sdb: Current: sense key: Medium Error [  122.808000]     Additional sense: Unrecovered read error [  122.808000] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 004:48
Syderoor you could just nuke .kde helpthisnoobie and have everything back to normal :P04:48
Dr_willisnusakan,  what have you done to the drive so far?04:48
nusakantried to format it04:49
Syderois it mounted?04:49
Dr_willisnusakan,   you DID partition it first?04:49
helpthisnoobieok how how to i get my minimized windows to show in the task bar04:49
nusakanyeah, ithink so. i tried to make it one big ext304:50
Syderoadd the task manager applet04:50
Dr_williswhat does fdisk -l /dev/sdb say about it?04:50
helpthisnoobiei think i got that too04:50
Dr_willis I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0, block 0 - is NOT a good sign. thats the very start of the drive.. where the imporntant MBR is at.04:50
Syderojust add everything that looks right :P04:50
helpthisnoobieman I should have just kept checking things.....I just new to this04:50
Syderomaybe you mounted it wrong willis04:51
geniiabwhostw: I do not give assistance in private message only in public channel. I already have told you how to install what is the same as the server cd. This is in Konsole:   sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install tasksel                   after this done run:  sudo tasksel        then use arrow key to move up and down list and space to select. You want from the list Lamp Server. When selected then hit Tab key to move to OK at bottom of04:51
geniiscreen. That is all needs doing to have same as installing the servercd04:51
abwhostwi get04:51
geniiHit Enter of course when "ok" is highlighted04:51
Syderoscrew Ubuntu do LFS04:52
geniiSydero: It's not actually all that complicated04:52
SyderoI suppose04:53
Syderoit just can get messy04:53
Dr_willisnusakan,  it may be somthign weird with the usb cable/conector/adaptor. You might want to try plugging it directly into the sata/ide conector and repartioning/formating it that way.. or heck - try partition/formating it under windows, or with a live cd.04:53
Syderoor you didn't mount it right04:53
geniinusakan: There is some utility to make a new mbr for a drive if it is messed up. Give me a minute04:53
Syderoin windows yes04:54
Dr_willisnusakan,  ya may want to look at the Outpyut you are pastebining.. :) you messed up the fdisk command again.  ya need a SPACE in there.04:54
genii!info mbr04:54
ubottumbr (source: mbr): Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 22 kB, installed size 92 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)04:54
Dr_willisnusakan,  fdisk -l /dev/sdb04:54
SyderoWhat's -l for?04:55
Dr_willisList. :)04:55
nusakanDr_Willis check that pastebin04:55
Dr_willis'sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit'04:55
Dr_willisthatx the same one... :)04:56
geniinusakan: Put a space there after the -l04:56
Dr_willisInstall pastebinit with 'sudo apt-get instll pastebinit'04:56
Dr_willisthen use the command04:56
geniinusakan: Also use sudo04:56
Dr_willis'sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit '04:56
nusakandid it04:59
nusakansays default pastebin: http://paste.stgraber.org04:59
geniinusakan: Managed to partition it?04:59
nusakanno, did the pastebinit thing05:00
Dr_willisHmm try the command again. it should of gave  actual #05:00
nusakanit doesnt05:00
Dr_willisIt does here. :)05:00
geniinusakan: Your URL just has blank page05:01
Dr_willisxchat even can pipe the output  to the channel --->       /exec -o  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit05:01
Dr_willisbe CAREFULL with /exec -o :)05:01
needhelperr i can't play my dvd movies on kubuntu with kaffine.. keep saying something like the source cannot be read05:01
nusakani think im just gonna try to get a replacement05:01
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:01
nusakanThanks for trying to help guys05:03
Dr_willisGood luck... night all.05:03
needhelpstill won't work after i install libdvdcss2 :(05:04
geniineedhelp: Try also w32codecs libk3b2-extracodecs05:05
h2ihow do you get (diacritics | spanish characters) in (kde | kubuntu)05:06
geniineedhelp: Also non-free-codecs05:07
dreamorWell I can't seem to get my ICH5 based audio to work? Anyone know of issues with this chipset?05:08
needhelplibxine-extracodecs and ibk3b2-extracodecs same?05:09
geniineedhelp: Nope05:09
geniidreamor: Isw it intel HDA?05:09
needhelpdo i need to do something after installing? the vlc or kaffine still can't play.. but i'm able to mount the disc and read the content05:09
needhelpmanual playing of the VOB file with vlc doesn't work05:10
genii!intelhda | dreamor then perhaps try05:10
ubottudreamor then perhaps try: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto05:10
geniineedhelp: kaffeine should play it. Did you have the player open during codec installs? If so close/reopen05:10
dreamorHmm sorry not intel-hda it's intel ICH505:12
dreamorthe driver is snd_intel8x005:12
needhelplibdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB (0x000023aa) <--05:12
geniidreamor: Ah. No idea offhand in that case then05:12
needhelpwhat does it mean?05:13
geniineedhelp: Probably one of the new encryptions then05:13
needhelpsomething to do with region code?05:13
h2iwell that was easy05:13
geniineedhelp: No, not region code related05:13
h2ijust picked the spain basic layout05:13
geniih2i: :)05:14
needhelphmm..so that's it i can't play dvds? :(05:14
geniineedhelp: Did you try an older one in there yet?05:14
needhelpolder dvds? i can try...05:15
geniineedhelp: Google tells me this error happens sometimes on 64bit05:16
needhelpsorry what05:17
needhelpwhat's 64bit??05:17
geniineedhelp: 64bit version of (k)ubuntu as opposed to 32 bit version05:18
geniineedhelp: Although also it seems you may be correct in region code guess also, some reports of this also05:18
geniiThis from http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=522952405:19
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geniineedhelp: After midnight here, i have to leave. Perhaps ask also in #ubuntu channel05:20
needhelpyeah thanks!! i think its the region code.. i tried a *pirated* dvd and its playing05:22
rekushaрусские тут есть?05:22
needhelpbut this original dvd can't play ;p05:22
posingaspopularneedhelp: you ned to run the script...05:27
posingaspopularone sec05:27
needhelpsudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh ? i've done that :(05:28
toulousehey guys, how do i use the linux write command over a network?05:28
needhelprsync or ftp ?05:28
toulousei'm assuming that wasnt towards me05:29
abwhostwany one help me how to install05:30
needhelptoulouse: write as in transfer file over a network?05:30
abwhostwapache to my computer05:30
toulousewrite to chat over network05:30
toulouseor wall will work05:30
toulousebut i cant get it connect over my wifi05:30
toulousei tried sending a msg. but it said that user@hostname was not logged on05:31
toulousei know that's not true05:31
needhelpthe other party is using what os?05:31
toulousewell, i have both computers sitting here in front of me05:32
needhelpermmm what do u mean by write to chat? hehe just curious05:32
toulouseor 'wall'05:32
abwhostwhello any body help me05:32
toulousethey are commands05:32
CQmorning... I would like a script to run before sleep or hibernate to unmount truecrypt volumes... do I need to stick something in an init state or do I need to stick it in /etc/acpi?05:33
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h2iany reason why i see Â¨í»³÷åíí¯¿Â¨ instead of russian characters?05:46
h2ibecause i can type russian characters ¨дфао¨ but can´t see them in amarok05:47
abwhostwany one can help me05:58
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter06:01
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ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper06:14
Lenaud01I am trying to use the imageflow in calibre and it says that API v 3.7 anyone??06:15
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:15
ransommy irc virginity popped06:16
needhelpwow i'm having so much problem installing a simple flash plugin06:25
frodothen dont install it06:25
needhelpstucked.. keep saying md5 checksum mismatch..googled, tried many solutions still can't06:25
abwhostwcan any one help me how to install server on my computer to make web hosting06:26
nexes_anyone know a good programming channel06:30
frodogoogle it06:32
needhelphow to get nspluginwrapper?06:33
Lenaud01im on hardy and have newer versions is there a way to downgrade?06:35
Lenaud01On linux you need pyqt4 >= 4.4.2 and sip >= 4.7.6 for it to work06:35
Honcho501 is anyone having problems with add/remove applications?06:40
fulat2khi folks, i've enabled compiz-fusion (desktop effects), but i can't seem to load the desktop effects application.  any ideas?06:44
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Honcho501I am having the same issue fulat2k06:46
Tired_Hi.  Is there a limit on how long the 8.04 64-bit live cd from shipit can be used?06:47
fulat2kHoncho501: uh... i think it's the diff app.06:47
Tired_I had it running just fine for about 10 days, but it suddenly ran out of space on the ram disk and everything crashed or froze....06:47
Honcho501I get application not available when I try to install any new application from the list06:47
Tired_2GB of RAM, C2D processor, if that matters.06:49
Tired_I"M WONDERING IF THAT"S NORMAL (and thus, if I should be looking to schedule a reboot for the kiosk once a week or something), or if I should be finding a problem.06:51
Tired_Am I in the wrong channel for Kubuntu 8.04 support?06:56
chalcedonypeople do sleep sometimes06:57
chalcedonyyou could also ask in #ubuntu06:57
chalcedonyor #kubuntu-country whatver06:58
Tired_Oh, ok.  Thank you.  :)06:58
JucatoTired_: you mean you were running the live cd 10 days straight without rebooting or shutting down?06:58
Tired_It was fine for days, but suddenly it came up with low disk space notices, and then everything died.06:59
fulat2kTired_: wow.. i'm amazed you were able to use a livecd w/o rebooting for 10 days :)  that's a "stress" test right there :P06:59
Jucatook, here's the problem. normally, live cd's live in the ram when used. they don't make use of any hard disk. so naturally, in the course of 10 days, your ram will be used up06:59
Jucatosince RAM is also being used by programs and disk cache07:00
Jucatomaybe using a swap would help. but I think eventually it really will have no space left07:00
Tired_Hmm.  Is there a way to use quotas to tell it not to use too much for that?  the system is just a web browsing kiosk07:00
Tired_it doesn't have a hard drive07:01
Jucatothere probably is. but the problem is that, since it's a live cd, you will have to find a way to save settings in between crashes/reboots/shutdowns07:01
Tired_no need...the default 8.04 live cd is just fine for my needs...i'm just trying to keep it from dying when i'm not around07:02
Tired_seems to make it through 10 days...if i  reboot it while i'm around once a week or so, i should be ok, right?07:03
needhelpthis is driving me nuts.. installing flashplugin-nonfree keeps giving md5sum mismatch error.. i have no nspluginwrapper, and i've updated my apt-get..can anyone help me? :(07:03
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash07:04
needhelpi read that.. still md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz07:05
JucatoTired_: sure. but 10 days is a bit arbitrary.. something might happen that could cause the system to eat up more memory before the 10 days are up07:05
kg-awayrepo error?07:05
neko_Hello all, I open new forum. in forum u can found movies, games, Linux games,Linux distro And many... Please come on :http://www.nekos.yoyo.pl/index.php07:06
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lbrc07:06
nuxilanyone got lbrc working ?07:06
nuxilim trying to install it, but i only get errror when running ./setup build07:07
Jucatoneko_: do not spam07:07
nuxilerror: file 'uinputbridge' does not exist <-- is ther error i get..07:07
Tired_Hmm.  maybe I'm looking at the wrong tool for the job, then.  there must be a decent web browser applicance live distro somewheres07:08
nuxilbut in my /dev/input uinput is listed07:08
JucatoTired_: well, you're definitely using the live cd for purposes beyond it's original intent :)07:08
Tired_Thank you anyways, for the answers, the food for thought, and the killer distro.  :)07:08
tictricTired_: there's distros you can install on an usb stick07:09
Tired_if everyone used linux for only what it was originally intended for, we'd all be pretty bored07:09
tictricget yourself one with 4gb and off you go :)07:09
Tired_that's a good idea...i have an 8GB SDHCccccc ard i could use easily07:10
Tired_so i can save for a keyboard with a working shift key  :/07:10
tictricgoogle's your friend07:10
Jucatoyou'll probably have better luck there since a USB stick is writeable07:10
Tired_Cool.  I will look into that.  Thanks.  :)07:11
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fulat2ki'm getting python error when running desktop-effects-kde4... "ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK15QSessionManager14discardCommandEv"07:14
fulat2kany idea waht that is?07:14
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_StefanS_anyone having trouble with knetworkmanager in hardy (w/latest updates)08:27
jussi01not I...08:28
_StefanS_hmm wierd08:29
_StefanS_gears just keep spinning08:29
_StefanS_I wonder if dbus or hal is making some fuss08:29
codyhow do i change my desktop resolution i cannot find it in kcontrol08:38
``orvhow can I configure this mouse properly?08:38
_StefanS_thats one ugly mouse :)08:39
codyhow can I change my desktop resolution08:41
Taggnostris there a way to understand why sometimes when I turn on the pc I get a kernel panic?09:16
TaggnostrI think it's related to nvidia drivers, but sometimes it happens, sometimes it works09:16
Taggnostrthere is the call trace, a code and a couple of messages09:18
``orvworks pretty good09:37
``orvbesidos the less the mouse is used the better09:37
``orvis hell'uv annoying having to leave the hands off the keyboard09:38
``orvna mean son09:38
Taggnostrhow can I find out the kernel version?09:46
simihi i have kubuntu hardy and i made a bootchart capture http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3983/hardy200807231yw8.png    , any ideea how can i improve boot performance at the 50s it seams i have a period of silence?09:47
JucatoTaggnostr: "uname -r"09:47
cihads.a. türk var mı aramızda ???09:52
neko_www.nekos.yoyo.pl   Mine Forum about linux Warez !10:13
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d_o_r_i_a_nwhat software shoul i use in kubuntu to play DVD iso's ?10:17
d_o_r_i_a_niso DVDs10:17
ubunturosd_o_r_i_a_n: DVD iso's Play?10:18
d_o_r_i_a_nfirst i mount them-with what?10:18
d_o_r_i_a_nsecond i play from virtual drive10:18
Jucato!iso | d_o_r_i_a_n10:19
ubottud_o_r_i_a_n: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.10:19
d_o_r_i_a_nmplayer is good for DVDs?10:19
d_o_r_i_a_nDragon Player?10:19
pagd_o_r_i_a_n, well at least mplayer plays about everything.. so does xine, so if Dragon player uses either, it should work10:21
d_o_r_i_a_nbut if the DVD image's format is .nrg ?10:22
d_o_r_i_a_nnow i saw that10:22
pagd_o_r_i_a_n, iirc there is tool called nrg2iso ...10:23
Strog576i tried to make my internet connection via eth0 and configure a router via ath0 and i entered the following commands10:23
d_o_r_i_a_nconvert the nrg to iso?10:23
Strog576now i cant access the internet10:24
Strog576how can i restore this10:24
ActionParsniphey all10:25
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ActionParsnipis there a media player similarto amarok's xul player that gives an interface to the player but the sounds come out of the remote pc. I dont want to stream to the client system. just to be able to control via web interface10:41
ActionParsnipI tried amarok's web interface but i could not load another playlist, I could only play what was onscreen10:42
ActionParsnipamarok's xul interface is awesome but mobile phone browsers do not do XUL10:42
ActionParsnipand id love to be able to manage my media playing from my phine :)D10:42
faileasuse VNC? ;p10:43
ActionParsnipcan anyone please advise10:43
faileasActionParsnip: i seem to recall VLC having such a capability10:44
ActionParsnipwas considering that, just trying to make it as transparent as possible with minimal installs10:45
faileasno no10:45
faileasi mean VLC having some form of remote control plugin10:45
ActionParsnipi dont mind dropping amarok if something more suitable exists10:45
faileasVERY vaguely tho10:45
ActionParsnipoh, i'll check it out10:46
``orvwhat's the kde4 torrent klient??10:46
Jucatoktorrent (KDE 4 version)10:46
Strog576 i tried to make my internet connection via eth0 and configure a router via ath0 and i entered the following commands10:47
ActionParsnip!torrent | ``orv10:47
ubottu``orv: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P10:47
Jucato``orv: and #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4 questions. thanks10:47
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dvoidhello :)11:08
ActionParsni1yo yo yo11:08
dvoidim having som ati fglrx driver problem, 2d works fine, but opengl stuff is just black windows :D11:08
dvoidany ideas what could be causing this?11:08
ActionParsni1!ati | dvoid11:09
ubottudvoid: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:09
dvoidreinstalled the drivers, checked for conflicting libGL's etc but found nothing11:09
ActionParsni1you done that?11:09
dvoidand yes i have a x160011:10
ActionParsni1dvoid: are you using beryl or any other garbage like that?11:11
dvoidActionParsni1: nono11:12
ActionParsni1one less cog in the machine11:12
ActionParsni1the posts in that link look good, the bottom is particularly interesting11:13
ActionParsni1any joy?11:15
dvoidnot yet :S11:17
ActionParsni1keep us posted11:18
dvoidim going trough my xorg log,11:22
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ubuntu_Riddell: Konversation seems okay desktop on the whole seems alright11:45
Riddellubuntu_: ok, good, maybe we just have a spare 80Megs for no reason then :)11:45
lakis1982are there any antivirus  for kubuntu ?? should we use antivirus , or antispyware in kubuntu ???11:55
aomegax4Hi...how do I mount a .toast image?11:57
tictriclakis1982: there's clamav antivirus if you want to look at it.12:01
lakis1982do u use any antivrus?12:01
tictricnot on the workstations12:01
tictricI got it on the mailserver though12:02
tictricreduces spam a lot :)12:02
tictricif you don't get the worms and such at least12:02
tictricbut since I don't use any windows I don't really care about viruses and such12:04
tictricIf the system is setup correctly there's not too much to worry about if you're behind a good router12:04
Nyadhi. Please can someone give me a scenario in which you would use hard links instead of soft links12:36
ahmoshi. i need a good programme for editing subtitles12:37
ActionParsni1Nyad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_link12:41
NyadActionParsni1, thanks12:42
ActionParsni1np Nyad12:43
neko_mine forum about Linux and Warez : www.nekos.yoyo.pl12:54
lesergiI have Kubuntu 8.04.112:54
lesergibut I can't find how change kde splash...12:54
lesergihi all13:15
lesergiI want to configure xdg-open, I set alternative browser like firefox, but xdg-open still opens konqueror... I want firefox13:16
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jarmesI am attempting to add an AIM account to Kopete, but when I click on Settings->Configure the application freezes13:23
jarmesI have searched for documentation for the kopeterc file to add it manually and found nothing13:23
jarmesAll of the the forums I hvae found where users report this issue seem to revolve arounf Webcams, but I do not have a webcam13:24
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raymearshey everyone, i've got a small issue. don't know whether it's kde related ( if not, i'd appreciate it if you were to refer me to the appropriate irc channel) the problem is this: i'm using eclipse ganymede on kubuntu 7.10 and eclipse attemts to start, then displays a blank window (by the size of it, it looks like a dialog/warning window) and freezes. i think this might be a gui issue. any suggestions?14:02
ravhello. is it possible that nvidia drivers are only installed for one user?14:03
druv_how t14:05
druv_how do you uninstall win4lin pro 514:05
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Nyadraymears, try #eclipse14:06
MATRUXi need help here14:06
raymearsNyad:   thanks14:06
Nyadraymears, np14:06
umarzukiwhat's the best way to use kubuntu and get rid of gnome?14:08
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »14:08
ubuntu_what does this means and how do i check all. this isnt checking........ ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -A -V -a sda14:08
ubuntu_fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)     Checking all file systems.14:08
umarzukiubottu: tahnks14:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tahnks14:10
ravubuntu_ try it without the 'sda' at the end14:11
ubuntu_rav:  same answer14:11
ravubuntu_: works for me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29589/14:12
incorrecti wonder if it would be possible to separate out kde3 and kde4 in the suite you select from Adept14:13
ravubuntu_: what type of filesystem do you have?14:13
ubuntu_ext3 and fat3214:14
ubuntu_rav:  ^14:14
ravincorrect: i think they are separate. I have a pure kde3 install14:14
incorrectrav: what i mean is, if you look at adept, you can choose (at the top) 'Any Suite','Gnome','KDE'  however KDE gives you both kde3/414:15
pm2I'm having some trouble with Kubuntu - latest version, fully up-to-date, kernel 2.6.24-19-386.  Basically, all of the programs running in my laptop will freeze, one-by-one.  That is, one program will freeze, but I'll be able to switch to another program that will work for a few seconds before it freezes, etc.  After about 20 seconds, everything "unfreezes" and goes back to working like normal.14:16
pm2This process repeats approx every 5-8 minutes or so.  The computer never completely freezes (ie, I can still move the mouse, some buttons still respond, etc.)  Output from dmesg is here: http://dpaste.com/66911/14:16
pm2Also, depending on which kernel I'm using, the problem can happen more or less frequently.  It also did not start happening until I upgraded to a certain kernel version (sorry, I can't remember which one, but it was probably about 6 months ago)14:16
ubuntu_rav:  can you past the results in #justpastit ? my browser not working14:16
ravincorrect: i don't use adept, i use aptitude. gives you far more control. and on aptitude there's a kde package that carries kde 3.5.x and a kde4 package14:16
ravincorrect: and on the release of kde 4.1 RC1, they said that it could run parallel to kde 3.5.x, as it gets its own libraries and everything14:17
ubuntu_rav:  can you past the results in #justpastit ? my browser not working14:18
incorrecti hope so, as imho kde4 is not ready yet and i am too nervous to convert yet14:18
ubuntu_rav:  nevermind14:19
ravincorrect: check your installation with aptitude, and see if you have any piece of kde4 installed14:20
incorrecti know what i am doing with apt and dpkg, but i just liked using the adept to find apps14:21
incorrectproblem is that adept now shows kde4 over kde3, so unless you are careful you can simply install kde414:22
rickeyadept manger has chaseddd14:22
ravincorrect: adept is a nice application, i just wish it had the preview function that aptitude has14:22
rickeywhats the command to unlock it14:23
ravrickey: do you mean it crashed?14:24
rickeygood morning friends14:24
rickeyit wont unlock14:25
rickeyanother app is useing it14:25
rickeyin other words , it wont llet me in14:26
ravrickey: try 'ps -A | grep dpkg'14:27
rickeythat command is not fond14:28
mauihi guys after configuring guarddog to allow IRC, i dunno why but the chat doesn-t work... help_14:30
ravmaui: i've found that all the tools that are supposed to help you build a firewall don't really do it. it was easier for me to learn the basics of iptables14:31
rickeyanyone elas know the the command to  open adept mmmanager14:31
rickeysorry i got a slow finger14:31
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:31
ravrickey: what's the exact error you get when opening it? paste it here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14:32
stdinrickey: see what ubottu just said14:32
rickeythank you14:32
* genii hands stdin a coffee14:33
stdinmmmm, coffeeeeeee14:33
ravmaui: try pasting the result of 'sudo iptables -L'14:34
geniiAny interesting/persistent problems?14:34
ravi've been wondering why my nvidia driver only activate after i log in to kde, as in i get an ugly low resolution kdm login14:37
mauialright one sec14:38
mauicuz the thing is if i abilitate guarddog automatically it disconnects the IRC chat even if i allowed it give me one moment and i-ll paste it14:39
mauihttp://pastebin.com/m2291145f alright here it is iptables14:41
maui(now neither firefox works...)14:41
rickeysorry about the cap,s14:43
ravmaui: do you need all the logging chains?14:45
mauidunno what that is14:45
mauii want every port to be closed but amule msn irc and firefox14:46
mauidont need anything else14:46
ravmaui: guarddog is setting up a fairly complicated set of logs and filters, that are not quite needed unless you set up a server14:46
brewmasteris there some sort of plugin for konqueror that lets me easily upload files to my webserver via FTP?14:46
brewmasterideally, i'd like to be in konqueror and just right-click and, say, 'Put'14:47
steven_sever van mij wil ik linuks hebben kan dat???14:47
brewmasterbut i don't want it to mirror local and remote14:47
ravmaui: uninstall the current firewall and guarddog14:48
trappistwhat's the dutch channel?14:48
ubottuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl14:48
mauiand then_ what do i do_14:49
ravmaui: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29598/ copy that into a file on your system. change line 25 to match your LAN ip14:51
mauisorry rav but i dunno how to14:52
ravmaui: create a text file, and copy that into it14:52
mauino i no this i dunno whatz my lan ip_14:53
mauihow do i c it_14:53
ravmaui: you can delete line 25 if you don't share files or printers over a local network14:53
mauii dont14:53
mauii only use amule but thatz not over a local network14:53
rickeyok i tink i know what messed up my adept manager , it was my adept get14:53
ravmaui: then delete that line and save the file14:54
rickeyhow  do i close or reset  adeptget14:54
mauiand then_14:55
ravmaui: now on a console: sudo iptables-restore < /path/to/the/file.txt14:55
mauirav you-ll be here in an hour_14:56
ravmaui: most likely14:56
mauiif yes ill be back cuz this is not the computer i have to do it on14:56
sidneyanyone knows how to install warcraft three on kubuntu?14:56
mauic u later thank u14:56
ravno problem14:57
sidneyanyone knows how to install warcraft three on kubuntu?14:58
rickeyhow do i close or rest my adept get14:58
rickeyhow do i close or reset my adept get14:59
rickeyplease give me the command14:59
geniirickey: What do you mean by "adept get" ?15:02
geniiIs it timing out trying to reach a repository?15:02
rickeyAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).15:02
rickeyWould you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself.15:02
genii!aptfix | rickey15:03
ubotturickey: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:03
geniirickey: Also make sure the automatic updater is closed, also anything that may be using the packaging system. like a window with Adept open15:03
ocshi. i want to send, trhough a command line which uses Kmail , a mail file (1216821013.17751.ezUyq) which is saved in .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/drafts/cur. how can i do?15:04
geniiocs: About kmail from command line I don't know. But if you have the package mailutils installed you can do like:   mail -s "subject" someone@wherever < /the/content15:06
rickeythis is what it is say ing it,s doing now.15:08
rickeySetting up language-pack-en-base (1:7.10+20080205) ...15:08
rickeyGenerating locales...15:08
rickey  en_AU.UTF-8...15:08
abwhostwhow to make my pc server15:08
ocsgenii: that's what i want to avoid. instead, i want to save somewhere a mail template, composed with a gui, and then send the resulting file with a simpler command15:08
abwhostwdid any one know how to do15:08
geniiabwhostw: Perhaps visit channel #ubuntu-server15:09
rickeygeni thats where it stoped is it done15:10
geniirickey: Probably.15:10
geniirickey: I normally run in Konsole: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     to make sure all updates are done15:11
geniiocs: I'm perhaps confused by your response. What is it you're trying to avoid?15:12
ocsgenii: in my command line I don't want to insert destinations, attachment etc. I want to send a mail.sometype file wich already includes these parameters and which is created by a gui editor15:14
geniiocs: You might have to write some script to do this then.15:16
ocsgenii: that's what i want to avoid!!15:16
ocsgenii: i wouldn't have asked for a such stupid thing, otherwise15:17
ocsI already know that there are mailultils15:17
geniiocs: What I mean is that you should do some small script which yanks out the address subject etc etc automatically from the gui created whatever and then feed it into the mailutil commandline of mail <whatever options> so that all you end up doing is what you were asking as an end resut, which is to execute scriptname15:18
ocsgenii: i'm sure there's already, somewhere, a script for parsing that. i don't want to write it by myself15:20
lunarisDoes anyone know some good program for ASUS TV/FM cards?15:20
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rickeyE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)15:21
rickeyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?15:21
rickeyE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)15:21
rickeyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?15:21
Jucato!paste | rickey15:21
ubotturickey: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)15:21
rickeywhat do you make of this15:21
Jucato!adeptfix | rickey15:21
ubotturickey: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:21
Angel_of_Doomdeste cobani15:22
Angel_of_Doomjel ima neko iz srbije?15:23
bazhangAngel_of_Doom, english15:23
Angel_of_Doomok madafaka15:23
bazhangno cursing Angel_of_Doom15:23
Angel_of_Doomok bro15:24
Jucato!language | Angel_of_Doom15:24
ubottuAngel_of_Doom: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.15:24
Angel_of_Doomthanx i am jut serching for some serbinans to help me15:24
lunarisHere is some from Montenegro Angel_of_Doom15:24
rickeythats what i got after i ran the command given15:25
Angel_of_Doomdez crnogorac15:25
geniiocs: I'm not aware of any script thats already been done for that.15:25
rickeymaybe i should just reinstall it all over again15:25
tony_can someone tell me why i get this error with a deb package? dpkg: status database area is locked by another process15:26
tony_i'm currently upgrading but it's a 700mb upgrade, is it because of that?15:26
Picitony_: yes15:26
geniirickey: Let your automatic updates finish. It keeps restarting is what I think is going on.15:26
Picitony_: You can't run 2 package managers at the same time15:26
Jucatorickey: did you run the commands the bot gave you?15:26
rickeybut i cant use the kubuntu in any way15:27
tony_sucks. so for 8 hours i apparently can't install anything. they need to change it somehow15:27
rickey i cant load anything out of add programs15:27
rickey manytimes15:28
geniitony_: You can't install or remove things while updates are going on since it wants to use the same backend and database.15:28
rickeyit isnt updateing at all15:28
geniirickey: See what I just told tony_15:28
tony_can i install the .deb file with something else successfully?15:28
rickeyin my case it,s not updateing at all15:29
rickeyi wish it would15:29
rickey but it wont15:29
tony_or is there any way to extract the deb to a folder and just run it like that?15:30
rickeymaaybe the severs are down15:30
geniirickey: Also if you did the thing about killing the apt process which the bot recommended, the updater might now be running detached from terminal and in a problemmatic state. Does command: ps ax|grep adept          show something?15:31
Picitony_: If its just downloading the updates, you can cancel and install your .deb and then continue again.  If its within the actual update steps, you have to wait.15:31
geniitony_: You can't install or remove any debs or so while updating is progressing. It all uses the same backend and database15:31
tony_Pici, thanks, i'll just wait. i was wondering as well if it would resume updating where it left off if it crashed somehow because i'm using kde4 which is kind of unstable15:33
rickeythis is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/29609/15:34
geniirickey: OK. That is just the notifier which does not by itself make use of the database or such. PErhaps pastebin entire results of just:   ps ax15:37
geniiWork, AFK15:37
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FrauHansencan i change the outcome of the keystrokes [Alt]+e to the "element of" sign?15:56
FrauHanseni mean, can i produce a custom ascii-sign by using/changing a key combination (shortcut)?15:59
ravFrauHansen: you can create custom key combos for many things in kde settings16:01
ravFrauHansen: i've never done it, but i think you can customize your keyboard layout in the Locale settings16:02
FrauHansenrav: i need the left of these two signs http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/b/2/db20db2c47bc23d4b314026ed2ea0edc.png on [alt]+'e'16:03
FrauHansenrav can that be done?16:03
pagFrauHansen, you always can create your custom keyboard layout (no idea how to do it though, but shouldn't be too hard)16:04
FrauHansenok i'll google...16:04
ravi haven't tried, i usually just use a symbol picker from openoffice, or i use latex16:06
reagleBRKLNis it possible to get Konqi's "header" to print at the bottom of the page rather than top?16:06
francesco_salve a tutti16:06
francesco_e' in italiano?16:07
Jucato!it | francesco_16:07
ubottufrancesco_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!16:07
francesco_i have a little problem to solve?16:08
francesco_if it possible install firefox 3 on kubunto 7.04?16:09
geniifrancesco_: Not through the package manager16:09
geniifrancesco_: Firefox-3.0 package has not been ported back to 7.10 or 7.0416:09
ravFrauHansen: maybe you can find an already existing layout with the symbol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout16:09
francesco_and what i have to do? existe a file.deb?16:09
geniifrancesco_: There may exist a deb for it, but I do not know where it might be found.16:10
francesco_it's the same for the latest kernell?16:11
francesco_i try to explane better..16:11
francesco_i passad from 9.04 to 7.04 because i have not memory enoght16:12
francesco_sorry 8.0416:12
geniifrancesco_: I understand.16:13
francesco_and i see a old version of gimp, firefox, open office and so on16:14
PiciUbuntu is not a rolling release distro.  Each release is pretty much set on the package versions that were released for it.16:15
francesco_that i can't upgrade, i think now16:15
geniifrancesco_: You can use the way here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html for firefox-3 onto 7.10 and 7.04 (it is about Gnome and not KDE but most is command line anyhow)16:15
geniifrancesco_: That is about the only way if you are dedicated to having it on 7.04 :)16:16
francesco_yes but 7.10 wants more ram that i can16:16
geniifrancesco_: The way there works for 7.04 also16:16
Picifrancesco_: How much ram do you have?16:17
francesco_256 mbyte16:17
abwhostwok any one help me with this problem16:17
faileasthats enough for 7.1016:17
abwhostwNot Found16:17
abwhostwThe requested URL /~abwhostw was not found on this server.16:17
abwhostwApache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at localhost Port 8016:17
francesco_and 1giga processor16:17
geniifrancesco_: Instead of the beta5 version they speak of there, download instead the newest from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.0.1&os=linux&lang=en-US         (or for the language you want by navigating from main page at mozilla)16:18
ravabwhostw: are you trying to use user's local apache directories?16:18
francesco_ok i'll try16:19
geniiabwhostw: Do you have a directory called public_html in your home directory?16:19
ravabwhostw: i used to have that on debian. when i switched to kubuntu, apache was configured different so i just put everything on /var/www/16:19
francesco_but i'll have problem whit flash?16:21
geniifrancesco_: Probably, yes16:21
abwhostwok than16:21
geniiabwhostw: Is there any contents in the directory public_html ?16:21
francesco_ok it's better stay whit 2.ecc16:22
ThomasDcan anyone tell me where I can find the 'middle mouse button copy/paste action' configuration?16:22
francesco_many thanks genij16:22
ThomasDbecause suddenly it stopped working16:22
abwhostwso where is the preoblem16:23
geniiabwhostw: Make a file with 3 lines:   <?php                   then: phpinfo();       then: ?>                    and call it index.php and put it in public_html folder. Then do: chmod +rx index.php to the file. Then try again to the URL of ~yourname16:24
geniifrancesco_: You're welcome16:24
Malatestahi all16:26
Malatestaguys, i'm using kubuntu 8.04 and i'm experiencing freezes with firefox316:26
Malatestathey are systematic16:27
Malatestaafter a short time, firefox takes 100% of cpu16:27
Malatestaanyone have the same problem?16:27
francesco_in my experience no16:27
ravMalatesta: i had some problems with ff3 conflicting with libbonoboui2. try uninstalling libbonoboui216:28
Malatestaare you using nonfree flash? whitch version?16:28
geniiMalatesta: Is it always on same webpage?16:28
Malatestagenii: no, different pages16:28
Malatesta i also tried using firefox3 tar.gz from the official site16:29
Malatestasame problem16:29
Malatestamaybe is the flashplugin?16:29
abwhostwafter what I do16:30
abwhostw * Reloading web server config apache2                                   [ OK ]16:30
geniiMalatesta: Probably. Sometimes if I have many tabs open with flash on each it makes the  box start to crawl16:30
Malatestawith beta10 version, same problem16:31
Malatestaseems that the nonfree flashplugin is not so good...16:31
francesco_have you try whit konqueror?16:31
geniiabwhostw: You did not require restart of apache2. But it is OK. Are you able now to acquire url of /~abwhostw/index.php       and see the php configurations?16:31
Malatestafrancesco_: si, konqueror do not freeze16:32
Malatestaand firefox2 too16:32
Malatestathe only freezing browser is ff316:32
ravMalatesta: try uninstalling libbonoboui2, it gave me problems with ff316:33
francesco_malatesta are you it?16:33
Malatestafrancesco_: SI16:33
Malatestasorry caps16:33
Malatestarav: i try16:33
ravgenii: to enable modules in apache you just have to move it from modules-available to modules-enabled, correct?16:34
geniirav: No, just symlink from /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ to actual  /etc/apache2/mods-available/<modulenameyouwanttoenable>16:39
sbucathello anyone knows how to report a bug with gdb ? i can't move nothig after i have run that16:39
geniiBoth .conf and .load files if they exist16:39
ravgenii: thanks16:40
geniirav: np16:40
sbucatgenii: for bug where could i go ?16:40
sbucati mean irc16:41
geniiabwhostw: Do files /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf        and     /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.load exist ?16:41
geniisbucat: Better instead to look on bugs section of Launchpad for it16:41
sbucatgenii: i am from it16:41
Malatestarav: seems that now all works well16:42
ravMalatesta: good :)16:43
sbucatgenii: i was looking here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/22969416:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 229694 in wacom-tools "Wacom graphire4 pad buttons: remap cause X-server restart" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:44
abwhostwc-su: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf: Permission denied16:44
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ravabwhostw and genii: i think those modules are not loaded by default in ubuntu16:44
sbucatgenii: but gdb doesn't work in my machine16:44
sbucati don't why16:44
abwhostwso what can I do to load16:44
abwhostwI loaded in Kubuntu16:45
geniiabwhostw: Don't try to run the file. Apache just uses it only. Do they just exist there or not?:16:45
abwhostwis not working16:45
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geniiabwhostw: sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf  /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf; sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.load  /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.load16:47
geniiabwhostw: Then restart apache2 and attempt /~yourname/index.php           once more16:48
geniiabwhostw: You are putting as URL something like:         or just    /~abwhostw         ?16:52
abwhostwi know but same pro16:54
abwhostwNot Found16:54
abwhostwThe requested URL /~abwhostw was not found on this server.16:54
abwhostwApache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.2 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at Port 8016:54
geniiabwhostw: What is exact url everything included you are putting in address bar of browser? Does it have some other part besides /~abwhostw        or not?16:55
geniiI think I'm gonna need more aspirins here16:55
abwhostwjute likst athat16:56
Malatestathanks for the tips guys, have a nice day16:56
ravabwhostw: can you pastebin the result of 'ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled' ?16:57
abwhostwbash: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled: is a directory16:58
ravabwhostw: can you pastebin the result of 'ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/' with the slash at the end? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16:59
icelabcan i customize the icon on kde dsktop?16:59
ravicelab: System Settings > Appearance17:00
icelabcan i customize the size icon on kde desktop17:00
abwhostwok done17:00
ravabwhostw: what's the url of the post?17:00
icelabok raw just do it :-))))17:01
icelaband to stay them closed?17:03
ravabwhostw: try 'ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/' with the slash at the end, and post the result please17:03
ravicelab: what do you mean?17:04
icelabthe distance between their is too much17:05
ravicelab: on the desktop? right click on the background and click Configure17:05
ravabwhostw: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'17:06
abwhostwsudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart17:07
abwhostw * Restarting web server apache217:07
abwhostwthan what after17:08
ravnow in your browser go to 'localhost/~abwhostw'17:08
* tictric hands out valium17:08
geniiabwhostw: What is result of command:   cat /etc/apache2/ports.conf | grep Listen17:09
abwhostwAn error occurred while loading http://localhost:17:09
abwhostwCould not connect to host localhost.17:09
ravi think his httpd.conf has the public_html line commented out17:09
geniiFor the nitpickers I know it could be grep Listen /etc/apache2/ports.conf      incidentally17:10
abwhostwroot@ubuntu:~# cat /etc/apache2/ports.conf | grep Listen17:10
abwhostwListen 8017:10
abwhostw    Listen 4417:10
icelabsorry raw is not enoght..17:10
geniirav: httpd.conf should not contain anything actually in Apache 2 versions17:11
tictricabwhostw, please type command: ps ax | grep apache17:11
tictricif your config isn't working, apache won't even start17:12
abwhostwroot@ubuntu:~# ps ax | grep apache17:12
abwhostw 8479 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep apache17:12
tictricbut will not tell you so either17:12
tictricso apache is not running17:12
ravgenii: i have it, with some directives about userdir and some commented out about php4 and some about php517:12
tictricyour site configuration is broken abwhostw17:13
abwhostwcan we fixed17:13
tictricI suggest you got to an apache channel17:13
tictricabwhostw, go to #apache17:14
geniirav: All that stuff used to be in httpd.conf for apache1.3x is now either in apache2.conf or else in /etc/apache2/sites-enables/000-default now17:15
geniikrazy-h: I do not assist in private message, only in public channel17:16
krazy-hbut i need help17:17
geniikrazy-h: The usual procedure: State your problem to the room and see if anyone takes it up17:19
krazy-hSo i want to have acces to other computer in the home via terminal17:20
krazy-h"to their hard drive, the c$)17:20
geniikrazy-h: Over local LAN in same house just browse to the IP of the computer in Dolphin or Konqueror with smb:/xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx       for instance. The other computer needs to have been setup to share in Windows of course. The c$ share is a special share which needs what is called a machine account17:23
geniikrazy-h: If this is to be over internet then into the house then to the box it becomes exponentially more convoluted17:24
krazy-hYeah i see17:25
krazy-hBut it's in the house17:25
krazy-hin the same home17:25
geniikrazy-h: Then as I stated, to use url of smb:/ip-of-windows-machine           What you see there depends from there on how the Windows end is setup and not the linux end17:26
chrisinajarOk, so in KDE 3.5 running Kubuntu Hardy, when a user logs in a bunch of directories are created in their home directory... Stuff like "Music" and "Pictures"... How can I disable it from doing that.17:33
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geniichrisinajar: It's set in /home/theirname/.config/user-dirs           for instance. There are also a set number of stock dirs that get created from commandline adduser/userad commands which are in someplace like /etc/skel17:37
geniiuser-dirs.dirs the name, typo17:38
chrisinajarthanks, genii17:39
geniichrisinajar: You're welcome17:40
KomiaPoikatheoric question: if i boot my system with crypto fs, enter passphrase and login. then i lock the screen. an attacker intrudes physically in the room, pulls the power chord and unmounts the hard drive to steal it. will he be able to read the plainfiles from another machine? or will he need to know my passphrase to remount the hard drive?17:40
geniiNeeds passphrase reagardless17:41
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!17:41
chrisinajargenii: what creates the .config/user-dirs.dirs, it's not in skel but is in all the home directories...17:41
drifhow do I send ctrl+alt+del via RDP under kubuntu?17:42
chrisinajartry pressing F817:42
KomiaPoikagenii: so the system doesn't "write" the open state of the hard drive it's just a memory thing?17:42
chrisinajaror ctrl+alt+insert17:42
geniichrisinajar: Some subsystem of either the KDE or Gnome default settings for all users, but where exactly you'd have to dig to find out17:42
chrisinajargenii: well, it's a kubuntu specific thing, this doesn't exist in vanilla kde...17:43
chrisinajargenii: i could probably put a blank one in the skel.... that might work...17:43
geniiKomiaPoika: It will have some indication shutdown was not properly done but then it will just in that case want to fsck the drive or so on17:43
drifchrisinajar: F8? neither reacts17:44
drifchrisinajar: I'm using virtualbox via VMHeadless - forgot to mention17:44
geniichrisinajar: I think if you put one in there, then when kde is started it will just populate the empty one that got created17:45
chrisinajardrif: F8 usually brings up a menu in rdp programs...17:45
chrisinajargenii: yeah that's what i think might happen... it's a matter of, when creating a user... does skel take effect first, or does kubuntu, and if kubuntu comes first, does it respect skel...17:45
geniichrisinajar: skel definitely takes effect first17:46
tictricchrisinajar, look here http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs17:46
drifchrisinajar: well apparently not in krdc17:46
geniichrisinajar: Gimme some time, trying to find out what exactly makes that file list17:46
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drifchrisinajar: got suggestions?17:46
driffor another client17:47
geniichrisinajar: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs explains it fairly well :)17:48
chrisinajargenii: /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults is what I'm looking for :)17:48
chrisinajarthanks again!17:48
geniichrisinajar: You're welcome17:49
tictricvery well even17:49
genii!helpersnack | tictric17:49
ubottutictric: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!17:49
tictricit should read: you get a cookie17:50
tictricgenii, but you'll get one too :)17:51
chack-6salut tout le monde17:56
ahmedi want to listen to radio streaming online what is programs i need for that17:56
chack-6je cherche un outil pour controler la bande passante de mon reseaux locale17:56
chack-6quelqun connet un outil pour faire ça17:57
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tictric!fr | chack-617:58
ubottuchack-6: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr17:58
* genii munches his cookie17:59
ahmedi want to listen to radio streaming online what is programs i need for that i use firefox for it but it says plugin needed17:59
nafionahmed: amarok?18:00
ahmednafion: it says unknown plugin (video/x-ms-asf)18:01
* tictric gives genii another one18:03
* genii hands tictric a coffee18:03
nafionahmed: i havent messed around with radio streaming much but i would say to try apt installing 'mozilla-plugin-vlc' or something like that...18:03
ahmednafion:i'll try this now and tell u ok18:04
ahmedi have another quiestion i just added new ide hard but icannt see it in storage media to mount it18:06
geniiahmed: Is it partitioned yet?18:08
becker_11I'm reading a tutorial on installing linux from a usb stick and it mentions the kernel module (modprobe usb-storage) I've checked  Adept and came up empty handed Can someone point me in the right direction pls18:08
ahmedits allready parttioned and have data18:08
ahmedgenii: its allready parttioned and have data18:09
geniiahmed: Then likely the system can't automatically decide what filesystem it is or options to use when mounting it.18:10
ahmedgenii:then how i mount it ?>?18:13
geniiahmed: If it's something like NTFS or HFS then you're best to make a specific entry with the options you require in the /etc/fstab file18:13
ahmedahmed:it is ntfs18:15
ahmedgenii:it is ntfs18:15
ahmedgenii:how i know the right entry18:17
geniiahmed: Please report result of command:   sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS18:17
geniiahmed: This will let us know what disk device name to use18:17
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ahmed/dev/sda1   *           1         644     5172898+   7  HPFS/NTFS18:18
ahmed/dev/sda5             645        8327    61713666    7  HPFS/NTFS18:18
ahmed/dev/sda6            8328        9022     5582556    7  HPFS/NTFS18:18
ahmed/dev/sdb1   *           1         634     5092573+   7  HPFS/NTFS18:18
ahmed/dev/sdb4            4317        4865     4409842+   7  HPFS/NTFS18:18
ahmed/dev/sdb5             635        4190    28563538+   7  HPFS/NTFS18:18
geniiahmed: Please use pastebin when results are more than 2  lines :)18:19
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:19
abirhi, i am a linux newbie18:20
geniiahmed: Please now use the pastebin to show contents of the current file /etc/fstab18:20
ahmedgenii:sorry i dont know how to paste bin18:20
abiri am having trouble with screen resolution18:20
abirin kubuntu 8.0418:20
abircan anyone help me ?:)18:20
geniiahmed: Thats OK, it's just good not to flood channel when possible18:20
abirhello, nobody here to help ?:(18:22
geniiahmed: Thanks but that is the previous info we have already.   Put into pastebin results of command:    cat /etc/fstab18:22
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geniiabir: The best thing is to keep asking perhaps every ten minutes. More detail of what type video card might also be helpful18:23
abiri have intel 945 on - board card18:24
carib909I need help from an  ubuntu guru please18:25
geniiahmed: Good :) That helps enormously. Do you have any particular names you want to see the mount names as?18:25
genii!ask carib90918:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ask carib90918:25
genii!ask | carib90918:25
ubottucarib909: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)18:25
becker_11I'm reading a tutorial on installing linux from a usb stick and it mentions the kernel module (modprobe usb-storage) I've checked  Adept and came up empty handed Can someone point me in the right direction pls18:25
abirI tried to change my resolution by this way :18:25
abirsystem settings -> monitor & display18:25
abirthen clicked administration mode18:26
abirand typed password18:26
carib909I have an error in my etc/samba/smb.conf file and I cannot sudo kate to correct tit. Will not let me save. Apt and synaptic cannot identify the host and I can no longer browse hard drives.18:26
abirbut selecting resolution 1024 * 768 gives me a message18:26
abirwhether i want to keep settings18:26
abiri click keep18:26
abirbut nothing changes18:26
ahmedgenii:no just want to mount the partitions18:27
abirinstead when i restart, the resolution becomes 640*480 :(18:27
carib909:CORRECTION I have an error in my etc/samba/smb.conf file and I cannot sudo kate to correct tit. Will not let me save. Adept, or synaptic manager  and synaptic cannot identify the host when run from shell, they won't start up in gui and I can no longer browse hard drives.18:28
geniiabir: I do not give assistance in private message, only public channel18:29
geniiahmed: Apologies on lag, my workplace required me18:29
abirpublic then:)18:29
ahmedgenii: nevermind r u leave now??18:29
abirplease tell me if any more info is needed18:29
carib909genil can u help me?18:30
carib909is anyone here? Is this still working? I am running Kubuntu nothing is moving, not sure if it is the irc chan or OS?18:33
abiryes i am here18:33
geniiahmed: No, I'm not leaving anytime soon. But I'm at work and must go away from the computer when they call me to do something .So then in this case we can do something like:  sudo mkdir /media/disk2-1; sudo mkdir /media/disk2-1; sudo mkdir /media/disk2-2; sudo mkdir /media/disk2-3    for the mountpoints.18:34
geniiahmed: I will provide some lines in pastebin address to add to your /etc /fstab, just be patient18:34
ahmedok take ur time18:34
geniicarib909: You are doing: alt-f2  kdesu kate /etc/samba/smb.conf        ?18:35
carib909Not alt F2 but at a shell I am doing sudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf   and I get an error that directory not found.18:36
carib909Even if I go to that directory and issue the sudo kate command error says can't find host18:37
carib909Strangest thing is I set up home folder on separate partition, now I cannot browse that patition or other hard drives.18:38
carib909genil how do I get to the location to paste output ad get a shortcut to ?18:41
geniicarib909: Incidentally never ever run gui applications with sudo. Only kdesu/kdesudo in KDE and gksu/gksudo in Gnome. You will need now to recursively chown all the hidden directories in your home directory18:42
geniiahmed: Still working on that for you, don't despair :)18:42
carib909what does that mean? How to do that?18:42
carib909Here is the output...18:43
carib909How do I paste output to avoid flooding?18:43
artur_Hi folks.  I'd like that a command was executed in every boot. I forgot in what file i have to write this command. What's is this file?18:44
genii!paste | chttp://paste.ubuntu.com/29661/riba18:45
ubottuchttp://paste.ubuntu.com/29661/riba: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)18:45
genii!paste | carib90918:45
ubottucarib909: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)18:45
geniiahmed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29661/    Add these lines into /etc/fstab       Use the way I told previously:   alt-f2    kdesu kate /etc/fstab18:46
geniiahmed: Then if you issue command:   sudo mount -a               you should see the 3 new partitions in there after in /media as dirs disk2-1 disk2-2 and disk2-318:47
carib909http://paste.ubuntu.com/29664/ is the result of my attempt to edit with kate18:49
kblinhi folks18:49
carib909thanks for the paste command guys..18:49
geniicarib909: The first part of your problem and the most serious is that the file /etc/sudoers is very messed up. This will prevent a very many things from evern operating correctly.18:50
geniicarib909: The samba problem is nothing compared to that sudoers issue18:51
geniicarib909: You need to boot to livecd to repair this issue first before other issues can even begin to be addressed18:52
kakitoy en la euskal 1618:52
MetaMorfoziSHi all18:53
carib909Ok after booting to live cd then what should I do?18:54
MetaMorfoziSI'm from a kubuntu that runs on my pendrive over an encrypted lvm. My question is, that how can i speed it up?18:54
MetaMorfoziSIs there anybody who uses it like me? What tricks exists?18:54
MetaMorfoziSThe bottleneck is the disk operations18:54
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carib909Thanks genil: When I boot to LiveCD will I have a repair option?18:55
ahmedgenii: thanks man it worked u r the best man18:57
geniicarib909: No. Just boot up then use konversation or another irc client to return here for futher instruction. This is very serious problem18:58
geniiahmed: You're welcome18:58
geniiMetaMorfoziS: encryption severely slows any system down, and i can imagine it's painful from a pendrive. I'm not aware of any speedup tricks. You *may* want to try mount option of  sync for the fstab entry of your /19:00
erbiondomi potete aiutare19:01
genii!it | erbiondo19:01
ubottuerbiondo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!19:01
carib909Will I be able to start Konversation while I am booting from LiveCD?19:02
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MetaMorfoziSgenii > no it's not really slower than if it will be unencrypted19:06
MetaMorfoziSthe encryption speed depends on the cpu19:06
MetaMorfoziSthat i has19:06
MetaMorfoziSso i meant other tweaks19:06
MetaMorfoziSfor example the writeback time etc19:06
geniicarib909: Normally the livecd can do anything a regular installed distribution can19:08
_CrashMaster_albeit slower.19:09
geniiApologies on lag, I am after all needed by my workplace occasionally between assisting here19:09
_CrashMaster_What's more important? Us, or your job?19:09
_CrashMaster_Priorities man!19:09
geniiMetaMorfoziS: The sync option is fairly important for removable drives, it immediately writes info to it instead of caching it19:10
MetaMorfoziSsync option where? in fstab?19:10
genii_CrashMaster_: If I lose my job I won't be here much at all19:10
geniiMetaMorfoziS: Yes19:10
MetaMorfoziSand i need it or i need to avoid that?19:10
geniiMetaMorfoziS: Since a pendrive, preferred to have it.19:11
MetaMorfoziSokay, i try it19:11
geniiMetaMorfoziS: If you have "defaults" there as an option they conflict with each other so remove the "defaults" one if you put sync as an option19:11
MetaMorfoziSnow i has: /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt /               ext2    noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro,sync 0       119:12
geniiMetaMorfoziS: Then it's already there19:12
MetaMorfoziSbecause i added that:)19:12
geniiMetaMorfoziS: Ah, OK :)       sudo mount -o remount /                 should make it take effect19:13
genii!hi | keepout19:13
ubottukeepout: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:13
keepouthello genii19:14
geniicarib909: If you can use internet from livecd you can use it to return here19:14
keepoutubottu hello19:14
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:14
geniikeepout: ubottu is an automated system to help us occasionally and not a real person :)19:15
keepoutim nw19:15
geniikeepout: If you have some technical support question please ask it all on one line so that someone may assist you. If you do not have a problem, perhaps #kubuntu-offtopic is a better channel for just talking19:16
keepoutok tancks19:17
artur_Does anyone could tell me the name of the file that i should write commands that i want to be executed when the linux starts?19:19
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geniiartur_: Programs to run when window manager begins, or scripts that require to be run?19:25
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artur_genii: i mean before any window manager starts. I don't remember...bashrc...inittab, something like this..19:27
* genii takes this momentary lull in conversation to grab another mug of coffee19:27
ravhello. what is the device for built-in modems in /dev ?19:29
geniiartur_: There are 2 ways. One is to put it in /etc/rc.local    and another (proper) is to make a startup script which goes into /etc/init.d   and then uses update-rc.d to specify what runlevels it should start or shut down at19:33
geniirav: For serial types normally /dev/ttyS0 thru /dev/ttyS319:35
geniirav: If winmodem kind then could be any different number of possible names however19:36
ravgenii: i don't see in lspci19:36
erbiondochi mi aiuto19:37
geniirav: If internal and not showing in lspci   try then lsusb. If not listed there then likely IS on pci bus but whats called controllerless type of winmodem19:37
Pici!it | erbiondo19:37
ubottuerbiondo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!19:37
geniiPici: Thanks19:37
geniirav: There is a SmartLink type driver for those but it's been a while since I set one up19:38
ravgenii: also not in lsusb, so I guess it's a winmodem19:38
geniirav: They are a huge pai in the arse to setup19:39
ravgenii: i never could get the one on my old laptop with debian to work19:40
geniirav: You might want to visit http://www.linmodems.org/     and do the scanmodem thing19:40
ravgenii: thanks19:41
geniirav: You're welcome19:41
joannahi i have the following wireless card19:43
joannaIntel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter19:43
joannait is apparently installed but i cant get a connection19:44
joannawhat is there to do19:44
New_Bemberany russians here?19:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about channels19:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about channel19:46
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots19:46
bob3213243Is there a way to copy a ubuntu install image and format a harddrive and then use the copy of ubuntu so I don't have to do all of my setups and installs again?19:46
geniijoanna: Does the machine have a lso a wired connection it can use for now? You likely need to install wpasupplicant19:47
New_Bemberbob, I think Acronis true Image can help you19:47
joannavia apt-get install??19:48
geniijoanna: Yes,(with sudo of course) or else through Add/Remove PRograms19:48
joannagenii:wpasupplicant is installed19:49
New_Bemberhey, where I can find list of channels?19:49
genii!clone | bob321324319:49
ubottubob3213243: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate19:49
aorkwaNew_Bember: type /list.19:49
geniibob3213243: You could also just use dd comand to image the drive to a file then use it again to restore it to different drive later19:50
geniijoanna: Googling shows me this adapter should work out of box with (k)ubuntu and so it is likely a different issue than drivers or such19:51
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geniijoanna: For the regular network manager to be able to use it, there should be no entries in the file /etc/network/interfaces     file for it also19:53
geniijoanna: So if you had previously ran for instance iwconfig commands on it there may be some entry in that file regarding it19:54
genii(which should just be removed)19:54
mataharii have a question on Kaffeine and DVB-T - is this the right channel for this?19:55
geniimatahari: Probably :)19:56
geniiI guess he couldn't formulate the exact question19:57
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L0wehi all, is there any way to restore the vista bootloader from kubuntu?20:04
L0wei've google'd my *ss off, but I can't find anything like that...20:04
geniiL0we: Impossible from inside of kubuntu to do20:05
geniiL0we: If you have your Vista CD however they can tell you a way to do it in ##windows channel20:06
L0wegenii: thanks, was afraid so...20:06
L0wethat's the point, I know how to restore with the windows DVD, but i don't have it around, and I need my laptop20:07
L0wethanks anyway!20:07
geniiL0we: You're welcome20:07
ewomeris there a safe way of installing kde4.1 from a xubuntu installation20:15
geniiewomer: They mau know in #kubuntu-kde420:15
ubottuKDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde420:16
L0wethis is cool: http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/20:19
ewomeri have it already20:19
ewomerit dosent have vista on it20:19
nikhilanyone frm india..........??20:20
Syderono one from inidia is allowed to be on the internet20:20
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India20:21
nikhildid indians fuck u up in ur ass........??20:21
geniiOnly those guys20:21
geniiSydero: So much for sarcasm20:21
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.20:21
nikhilwhoose family.........??20:22
geniiAnyone's including those families from India20:22
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geniinikhil: Do not private message me. I only assist in public channel. Also you may have mistaken belief I am a female, which I am not.20:25
nikhilthats great'20:26
SyderoWas he coming on to you ;) ?20:26
geniiSydero: Yes.20:26
scretch how can i install package.run pls???20:27
Syderoerrr wgat20:27
Syderonever heard of it20:28
geniiscretch: Normally something like:    sudo chmod +x package.run; ./package.run20:28
scretchwhy this twice? package.run; ./package.run20:28
geniiscretch: The:   sudo chmod +x package.run              makes it executable. the   ;  is a command separator. The    ./package.run                  executes it20:29
scretchok... thanks20:29
ewomeri herd of package.jog20:32
dave11how do i adjust my log-in screen resolution?20:34
geniidave11: I'm not sure if this will work, but you could try.   Add a line called virtual with the resolution you want it to use in the xorg.conf file, somewhat like the example in post 4 here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=298189&highlight=kdm+resolution20:42
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geniidave11: You're welcome20:43
dave11my documents folder has a yellow exclamation point on it, what does that mean?20:47
engineerdave11 virus proly20:50
dave11in one of the documents?20:51
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harmental80hey guys...a friend of mine have accidentaly "unformated" his usb drive while using Windows....now I have the opportunity of bringing Linux up to the rescue....any ideas?20:52
harmental80how can I recover the files?20:52
geniiharmental80: Incidentally it's bad form to ask the same question in multiple channels. If you have kubuntu ask here. If you have regular ubuntu, stick to #ubuntu20:54
dave11do i have a virus?20:54
geniidave11: Do you have some virus scanner installed on linux?20:56
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE20:56
dave11no, i have a yellow  exclamation point on my documents folder20:56
dave11genii: no i have a yellow exclamation point on my documents folder20:58
simihi, i have this 2 entryes in my /etc/modules : fuse lp and i do not know if i need them, (i do not found anything about lp and about fuse it seams not critical_20:58
geniisimi: You do need them both. Don't remove either one20:58
geniidave11: I would suspect it means you don't have full permissions in that folder for writing. But this is purely a guess on my part.20:59
simigenii: ok then, i will search  other ways to improve my boot speed20:59
dave11genii: no i am the only person on the computer21:00
engineerif i have a directory named "-"21:02
engineerhow do i cd into it21:02
geniiengineer: I'm not sure it's possible since - means previous. Doesn't work with single or double quoted21:05
geniiengineer: If there is any answer I'm sure they'll know it in #bash however21:06
engineergenii cd ./-21:07
theunixgeekI think there should be a Kubuntu/SuSE merge: KuSE :D21:07
geniidave11: Have you imported any documents into the folder which may have permissions other than your own?21:07
engineergot the answer in bash :)21:07
theunixgeekthat way, both debian and opensuse compatibility21:07
geniiengineer: Nice :)21:07
dave11 genii, yeah i think so. a pdf airport diagram21:08
dave11genii: is that what that is for?21:09
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geniidave11: Try: sudo chmod -R $(whoami):$(whoami) ~/Documents21:09
dave11genii: tells me invalid mode21:10
geniidave11: Wait, that won't work right with sudo21:10
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geniiAlso other bad error21:11
theunixgeekwill the kde 4 spin later be updated to include 4.1 ?21:11
theunixgeekand if I update to 4.1 will I get the new window theme? :D21:11
geniidave11: chown -R $(whoami):$(whoami) ~/Documents21:11
carib909Ok I was getting serios sudoers errors and was told to boot onto a LiveCd and come back for instructions how to fix...21:12
dave11genii: just goes back to prompt21:12
geniidave11: Good then it was successful21:12
dave11genii: still have the exclamation point on the folder though21:13
geniidave11: Perhaps not next time, I think it's still cached in the window manager for current21:13
dave11genii: do i need to relog?21:13
geniicarib909: What partition is the old / which your kubuntu was installed to?21:14
geniidave11: Try f5 first21:14
geniitheunixgeek: Ask kde4 related stuff in #kubuntu-kde4 please21:14
dave11genii: no change21:15
geniidave11: OK. No other immediate ideas on it then21:15
dave11genii: ok thanks21:15
carib909it was an 87.5 gb Media partitionn. That's the name21:15
geniicarib909: Please use pastebin to post results of command:     sudo fdisk -l21:16
quentinhello there21:16
genii!hi | quentin21:16
ubottuquentin: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:16
quentinAnyone using Netbeans with Ruby?21:16
carib909ok thanks21:16
quentin(the language)21:17
* genii notices Dr_willis and hands him a coffee21:17
Dr_willisEating Chili :)  I need a beer!21:18
quentinI can't make netbeans find out the libs... So no auto-completion available :'(. In that case I prefer to go back to Vi21:18
Dr_willisI got no netbeans.. :) i got chili beans21:18
* BooVeMan_work thinks that netbeans sucks21:19
* BooVeMan_work ... big time21:19
Dr_willis!info netbeans21:19
ubottunetbeans (source: netbeans): Integrated Development Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.0.1-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 813 kB, installed size 1924 kB21:19
carib909the result of the fdisk list is at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29711/21:19
* genii swaps out Dr_willis' coffee for a beer and also hands him the Bean-O21:20
dave11can anyone tell me why i have a yellow triangle with a exclamation point in it in the documents icon in the system menu?21:20
geniicarib909: OK, reading21:20
Dr_willisWow look at all the swap partitions carib909  has.21:20
carib909How can I remove all the other installations and free up that disk space?21:21
quentinAnyway, Netbeans is awesome for JavaME programming and I'd like to use a single IDE for all of my projects. + eclipse doesn't support Ruby Language...21:21
quentin(Not trolling ;) )21:21
simigenii: can you help me to understend this bootchart?21:22
Dr_willisother installations of what?  delete the partitiosn for the os's you dont use perhaps?  You could let differnt disrto/installs share the same swap partition.  Unless you use hibernate/suspend21:22
geniicarib909: First worry about getting the current system working properly. Then think possibly about removing other installations. The paste is not very enlightening as to what of the 4 possible partitions could have been your original /  so we will try the most likely and see.21:23
carib909I installed Ubuntu numerous times. Somehow they still show up in the selection list when I restart. I wanted to delete those partitions when I started over but they still show up.21:23
geniicarib909: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt                        then please pastebin result of: ls -l /mnt21:23
carib909I think the original is sda1 ID 83 Linux21:24
Dr_willisthe 'selection' list is from the grub menu.lst file. If you have truely deleted the other installs. Youc an just edit the menu.lst and remove the extra entries21:24
dave11i stumpted them all...:)21:25
marinosihello..Is have kubuntu hardy with kde4 ..Is there any guid on how to enable compiz fusion?21:26
carib909Here is the result after mounting sda1 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29713/21:26
Dr_willisKDE4 has its own eyecandy. and I dident think it needed compiz21:26
geniisimi: Probably not21:27
geniicarib909: Good, thats it21:28
BooVeMan_workquentin: ever heard of rubyeclipse.sourceforge.net21:28
simigenii: some proceses appear muliple time e.g. rc and i do not understend21:28
* BooVeMan_work still thinks netbeans suck21:28
carib909This is great guy, thanks for helping me...21:28
geniicarib909: sudo mv /mnt/etc/sudoers /mnt/etc/sudoers.old21:29
carib909genii i did it21:30
carib909genii what is that /mnt?21:31
quentinBooVeMan_work:  not until now :)21:32
housepcpaidia oloi apo ellada21:33
geniicarib909: Then  sudo nano /mnt/etc/sudoers         and copy and paste the contents of pastebin into it then save the file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/21:33
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quentinMy problem should be easy to Fix. Netbeans is looking for libs in /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/ but forget to look recursively in .../1.8/ folders...21:34
BooVeMan_workquentin: ever trying to get folks from the dark side to the eclipse force21:34
geniicarib909: You came back very late at end of my workday when i have 20-25 minutes before leaving so expect some lag21:34
BooVeMan_workquentin: linking the folder?21:34
geniicarib909: You exit nano by ctrl-x    then choose Y to save, Enter not to change name21:35
quentinBooVeMan_work: lol, I don't understand why some people hate Netbeans..21:35
quentinBooVeMan_work: ?21:35
BooVeMan_workquentin: don't quite get where netbeans does nlook and where it should...21:35
BooVeMan_workquentin: because its slow bloated and not productive (my point of view)21:36
geniicarib909: After file is saved:   sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers21:36
carib909thanks genii I had to D/l livecd21:37
carib909should I do cntrl-x now?21:37
geniicarib909: You pasted the new sudoers contents into the nano program? If so then yes to exit it, then Y to save and Enter to confirm the save name21:38
carib909should i do cntrl-x in terminal?21:38
marinosihi again..Kubuntu by default found my intel 3945 wifi nic and loaded iwl3945 for it.But although it works fine the wifi led does not work at all..Any ideas?21:38
quentinBooveMan_work: I've been working for some time with Netbeans and I agree that Netbeans is a bit "strange" something but since the 6.0 release I consider it as a good editor21:39
geniicarib909: Did that bring you back to regular command prompt? If so then do the other command21:40
quentinBooveMan_work: And since I have to work with it for my JavaME projects...21:40
geniiDr_willis: I'm thinking it would be nice to have opposite of pastebinit.21:41
quentinBooveMan_work: but I'll take a look at rubyeclipse ;)21:41
carib909results after sudo nano ...  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29717/21:41
TimSIs qtparted on the shipit disks?21:41
geniicarib909: Good. Now copy the text on http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29713/   then rightclick in nanoand put "Paste"        then ctrl-x then Y then Enter21:43
carib909sorry, but what is nano?21:43
geniicarib909: When you have $ prompt again, then put:  sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers21:43
geniicarib909: nano is an editor21:43
Dr_willisnano is a basic text editor for the console21:43
Dr_willisI perfer fte, or vi for the console21:44
geniicarib909: Please keep in mind I'm trying t help you resolve this isssue in the next 10 minutes so I can leave work on time :)21:44
BooVeMan_workTimS: yes21:45
TimSThought so, thanks.21:46
carib909is it this you want me to paste into nano?21:47
carib909no option to save file...21:48
geniicarib909: No don't save a pastebin of an empty nano file into nano. Save the paste bin of a default sudoers file which is at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/21:50
carib909error when I did chmod   see here  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29721/21:50
* genii headesks21:51
* BooVeMan_work hands genii a beer21:51
geniicarib909: OK. alt-f2    then: kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers               then copy the contents of http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/ into it. Then in Konsole once more again:   sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers21:52
Dr_willisafter saving the file.... :)21:52
geniiDr_willis: Good point21:53
geniiI *must* leave now to get my second workplace on time. May return in about 45 minutes21:53
carib909when I paste pastebin 29722 i get this  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29722/21:55
Dr_williscarib909,  lets summarize what you are trying to do...21:55
Dr_willisyou need to EDIT the file, paste the contents of tht pastebin INTO that editor and save the file. not the shell21:56
carib909cntrl-x not working21:56
Dr_willisI never use nano.. so cant help ya much there..21:56
carib909I posted 29714 in nano but now cntrl-x does nothing21:57
Dr_willisctrl-x works fine here. You may want to try another editor.21:57
Dr_williswhich is what genii said when he said.........21:57
Dr_willis<genii> carib909: OK. alt-f2    then: kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers21:57
Dr_willisthat will use kate as the editor, not nano.21:57
Dr_willisso in summary ---->  alt-f2,  kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers  , ---> paste the conents of the pastebin, Save the file. Use the chomd command   alt-f2 --> sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers21:58
Dr_willishmm.. does sudo work from alt-f2 ? ive never tried it...21:58
Dr_willisi would personally use the commands in a terminal (konsole window) not using alt-f221:59
carib909Could not open location 'file:///home/ubuntu/kdesu%20kate%20/mnt/etc/sudoers'22:00
Dr_willisI think you should just use the Konsole, and forget the alt-f2 stuff...22:01
Dr_willisOpen consle.  use command -->   kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers22:01
Syderoor link konsole to alt+f2 ;)22:01
SyderoWhat's kdesu?22:02
ubottuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)22:02
carib909running livecd how do i open konsole?22:02
Syderoisn't the kdesudo?22:02
Dr_williskonsole is where you type terminal commands..22:02
Dr_willissee a konsole icon in the menus?22:02
ale_somebody know some italian channel?22:02
carib909no konsole icon22:03
Dr_willisSydero,  ones like a link to the other . for some reason i forget.22:03
carib909I see terminal22:03
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!22:03
Dr_williscarib909,   you are using the ubuntu or kubuntu live cd?  try the terminal icon then.. the exact terminal dosent matter22:03
carib909kubuntu livecd22:03
SyderoWhy use kate when you can use nano :P ?22:03
SyderoI suppose copying and pasting is the reason22:03
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Dr_willisSydero,  because he cant figure out nano22:03
carib909terminal would not respond to a cntrl-x command22:04
Dr_willisi think theres MUCH better alternatives to nano for a console editor also.22:04
carib909I will try it again22:04
* kblin ducks22:04
Syderovim isn't an easier alternative22:04
Syderobut may be better22:04
Syderonano is easy22:04
Dr_willisI like this editor called 'mp' but its not in ubuntu.22:04
* BooVeMan_work bashes kblin however docked or not22:05
kblinBooVeMan_work: 0:)22:05
Dr_willisSydero,  you do NOT want to know the # of peopel i have had to explain nano's  vague  '^x'  ^=control key - to people. :)22:05
Dr_willisSydero,  seen  guys trying to hit ^ then X   way tooo many times.22:05
kblinbut seriously, the real reason I said vim is that it's worth learning if you need to deal with different unices22:06
carib909I posted the contents in nano but no option to save and cntrl-x does nothing here22:06
Syderoyes vim is great22:07
Syderoesp when viewing huge files22:07
Syderolike text files that are hundreds of megabytes large22:07
Syderoyes there is22:07
Syderoit's ctrl+o22:07
Syderowrite out22:07
Syderoor ctrl+x and say yes22:08
Dr_williscarib909,  thats why we are trying to get you to run/use kate.  Its possible your keybindings are messed up if none of the  ctrl-WHATVER shortcuts are working22:09
carib909I d/l'd konsole and pasted it22:09
Dr_willisdl'd konsole? Huh?22:09
SyderoI don't like kate :/  seems a little too bloated22:09
carib909but no cntrl-x either...22:09
carib909trying kate now22:09
Syderokwrite seems better22:09
Dr_willisHe could of read through a VI tutorial by now.. :)22:10
Syderoyeah if you actually read through the tutorials and learn it22:10
Syderoit is faster22:10
Dr_williswe need to find a pastebin that he can just 'wget' the example file from. :)22:11
Syderofor what?22:11
Dr_willisall he nees to do is replace his sudoers file with a new/original one...22:12
Dr_willisso far... nano wont save. and hes been pasteing the file to the terminal.... :P22:12
Syderonever heard of a sudoers file :/22:12
BooVeMan_workyou canb download the pastebin contents22:12
BooVeMan_workwget should do22:12
Syderodelete the file22:13
Dr_willis kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers               then copy the contents of http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/ into it. Then in Konsole once more again:   sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers22:13
Syderoand echo is or whatever22:13
Dr_willisBooVeMan_work,  i  Think last it tried that - it grabed the whole html page22:13
carib909kate doesn't come on the kubuntu livecd and trying to aoo applications, kate does not show up under all available apps....22:14
BooVeMan_workDr_willis: there is a link below to doiwnload  - pass that22:14
carib909add apps22:14
Dr_willisBooVeMan_work,  heh - that 'link' dosent even look/show up as a link.. :) never noticed it befor22:15
Dr_willissooooooooooo       wget http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/plain/22:15
Dr_willisShould download the file22:15
carib909kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers22:16
carib909kdesu command not found22:16
Dr_williscarib909,  so from a terminal  'wget http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/plain/' will download the needed file locally to the filename index.html22:16
BooVeMan_workDr_willis: yep - just tried and worked as expected22:16
Dr_williscarib909,  then you can 'sudo cp index.html /mnt/etc/sudoers'       Then    ' sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers '22:17
BooVeMan_workDr_willis: better pass wget with an output param22:17
SyderoWhy isn't 2.6.26 out yet?22:17
Sydero*the kernel22:17
Dr_williswe need to point out that Plain text link to Genii :)22:17
carib909index.html saved, but I have no clue where...22:19
Dr_willissame place you ran the command from22:19
Syderoprobably desktop22:19
Dr_williscurrent directory22:20
Dr_willisso  now use the            sudo cp index.html /mnt/etc/sudoers            command22:20
Dr_willisthen the last command...22:20
Dr_willis sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers22:20
Dr_willisand i have NO idea how you broke your sudoers file. :)   so this is the extent of  my info on this problem.. genii may be back in a few min if its still broken22:21
carib909thanks so much. I did the chmod... what should I do now rebboot to the hard drive?22:22
carib909what does the chmod command do?22:23
Dr_willistry it and see i guess22:23
Dr_willischanges the permissions on the file - for security reasons22:23
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.22:23
carib909Thanks for your help. I'll try to come back to give the result of your efforts..22:24
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smartyanyone use Klik?22:27
miguelnecoespanish si22:28
filo1234hello sorry for my stupid question but i don' t find it....where is path of screensavers on kde 3.5?22:29
carib909I booted into the default (topmost) version of ubuntu and ran an update from terminal and got this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29735/22:31
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filo1234carib909:  you have change hostname ?22:32
filo1234carib909:  get on terminal  command hostname22:33
carib909should I have changed the hostname? how? terminal command hostname???22:33
BooVeMan_workcarib909: if you ask like this - you haven't changed - nt to worry22:34
filo1234carib909:  on terminal get  hostname22:34
BooVeMan_workcarib909: paste the contents of your sudoers file22:34
carib909type "get hostname" ?22:35
smartyanyone use Klik?22:35
BooVeMan_workcarib909: nope nols hostname22:35
filo1234type  hostname22:35
Dr_willissmarty,  its proberly best to not use klick if you can avoide it. :)22:35
carib909what is nols?22:35
BooVeMan_worknols -> only22:35
smartyDoc : aiight thanks22:35
smartyIs there somethin wrong with it?22:36
Dr_willisit can cause issues. :)22:36
smartyAh, okay22:36
smartyThnx for da heads up22:36
Daisuke_Idoit's a terrible implementation of a terrible concept :)22:36
filo1234carib909: what say that command?22:37
_CrashMaster_!info klik22:37
ubottuPackage klik does not exist in hardy22:37
Daisuke_Ido_CrashMaster_: click and run software.  hello windows!22:37
carib909nols hostname =   command not found22:37
_CrashMaster_carib909: Dont type nols. Only type the word "hostname"22:38
filo1234carib909:   i have say to you   hostname22:38
carib909using kubuntu with kde422:38
* histo this is a little confusing22:38
carib909hostname is ubunto80422:38
Dr_williswe are referign to   http://klik.atekon.de/ ?22:38
BooVeMan_workcarib909: paste the contents of your sudoers file22:39
Daisuke_IdoDr_willis: that would be the one22:39
Dr_willisthats not spelt 'klick'  :) heh heh...22:39
carib909how do I get the contents of my sudoers file?22:39
Dr_willissudo cat /etc/sudoers22:39
filo1234carib909:  sudo nano /etc/hosts  and write in your hostname  here :  type ubuntu80422:39
BooVeMan_workfilo1234: are you sure about the contents of the sudoers file that you make hime change his hostname?!?22:40
BooVeMan_workfilo1234: or the name resolution?22:40
Dr_willishis hosts file MUST match his hostname - or else sudo wont work22:41
ubottuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab22:41
BooVeMan_workfilo1234: and carib909 does not master nano22:41
carib909filo please give me the comple command. I am getting errors doing them commands separately..22:42
Dr_willisis this the whole reason for all thos sudoers editing for the last 2+ hrs?22:42
filo1234BooVeMan_work:  on /etc/hosts must to be the right hostname for runnig sudo22:42
BooVeMan_workfilo1234: and he can't use sudo as the sudoers is damaged...22:42
histohe can use recovery mode22:42
filo1234BooVeMan_work:  with nano sudo work22:43
Daisuke_Idouse recovery mode, reset the hostname22:43
filo1234try to trust22:43
foiasfoieffis this lala land?22:43
filo1234sudo nano /etc/hosts22:43
BooVeMan_workfilo1234: if sudo fails with apt-get it will work with nano - no creo (don't think so)22:43
Daisuke_Idofilo1234: sudo doesn't work on a per-app basis22:44
Daisuke_Idofilo1234: if it doesn't work, it doesn't work22:44
Dr_willisusing a broken sudo to fix sudo. :)22:44
filo1234nope i know is strange  but work22:44
filo1234Dr_willis:  have you try  sometimes?22:44
Daisuke_Idofilo1234: you are so wrong, you've actually come around the other side22:45
Dr_willisfilo1234,  yes.. and ive seen others try to fix this befor.22:45
carib909sudo nano /etc/hosts returns   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29740/22:45
BooVeMan_work... as if i hadn't known so22:45
filo1234Dr_willis:  sometimes work other times must be make it from recovery mode22:46
* histo :)22:46
Daisuke_Idofilo1234: you don't get it.  if sudo is broken it won't work with *any* app, as seen in his pastebin22:46
BooVeMan_workcarib909: please do a cat /etc/hosts and paste the result22:46
histocarib909: reboot and get in to recovery mode. Then you can edit  your hosts and hostmane22:47
* BooVeMan_work likes to point out that carib909 is a beginner who needs very detailed steps who to do things22:48
carib909cat/etc/hosts returns    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29744/22:48
carib909histo  what do i edit and how and where?22:48
filo1234BooVeMan_work:  i have most experience on same problem  with sudo nano was possible to edit file,  if not possible must to make it from recovery mode, but try isn' t expensive22:49
Daisuke_Idofilo1234: did you read his pastebin?22:50
filo1234Daisuke_Ido:  sure22:50
carib909booveman can you paste instructions that I can follow if I have to use recovery mode please?22:50
BooVeMan_work... seams fine to me...22:50
Daisuke_Idohttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29740/ <- filo1234 just so you can see it again22:50
filo1234Daisuke_Ido:  was a try22:50
BooVeMan_workcarib909: your hosts file seem s all right22:50
filo1234Daisuke_Ido:  i have to seeee... but maybe you don' t understand me22:50
filo1234BooVeMan_work:  is' n right hosts file22:51
carib909BooVeMan   i cannot issue an update or upgrade command. neither synaptic manager or Adept will start up22:52
filo1234BooVeMan_work:  for you is right this line?? Ubunto804.Chords Ubunto80422:52
filo1234hostname must corrisponde on  /etc/hosts22:53
filo1234ok i shut up22:53
carib909I am not sure what you mean but all the information is correct. the workgroup or domain is chords and the hostname is ubuntu804: I am not sure what the 2nd ubuntu804 is for. that is NOT the username.22:54
posingaspopularhow do i ignore join/parts in irssi22:54
carib909filo1234 doesn't the hostname correspond in /etc/hosts?22:55
carib909what does it show as the hostname there?22:55
filo1234carib909:   hostname command  result?22:56
Dr_willisposingaspopular,  you use the /ignore command..  forget the exact syntax22:56
Dr_willisposingaspopular,  the irssi hompage has  examples/docs of it.22:56
posingaspopularDr_willis: i tried /ignore JOINS #ubuntu-room22:56
Dr_willisposingaspopular,  t you may have it backwards.22:56
carib909hostname command result = ubuntu80422:56
_CrashMaster_hang on a second.. You aren't allowed to have spaces in your hostname. Are you?22:57
Dr_willisIve never seen a hostename with spaces22:57
carib909no spaces what spaces are you seeing?22:57
posingaspopularspaces are not allowed in hostnames22:57
_CrashMaster_ Ubunto804.Chords Ubunto80422:57
_CrashMaster_space between Chords and the last part22:58
Dr_willismy hosts file line for this box --------> Tiny22:58
carib909chords is the workgroup22:58
filo1234Dr_willis:  your hostname is Tiny22:58
Dr_willisaha.. Hmm..i recall some issues with workgoups in the hostname..22:58
carib909ok how can I correct this?22:58
Dr_willisfilo1234,  yes it is. :) this machines name is 'Tiny'22:58
posingaspopulargot it now, thanks Dr_willis22:59
filo1234carib909:  that line must be so Ubuntu804 <------your right hostname22:59
carib909ubuntu804 is the hostname...23:00
filo1234carib909:  you must be reboot on kernel recovery mode23:00
carib909ok then do what?23:00
* genii puts on yet another pot of coffee23:00
filo1234carib909:  after  you must  say  nano /etc/hosts  and replace that words23:01
Daisuke_Idoextra strength, please23:01
carib909genii welcome back. I am still struggling to fix hosts file23:01
filo1234carib909:  that line must be so Ubuntu804 <------your right hostname23:01
Dr_willisHostname is what your computer will be "called" under ubuntu and the domain name only applies if you belong to a domain which desktops generally do not.23:01
BooVeMan_workgenii: Dr_willis didn't know that you can wget the contens of a pastebin23:01
Dr_willisBooVeMan_work,  genii  dident know either. :)  i memo'd  that link/plain thing to him :)23:02
geniiIt's all good :)23:02
carib909I installed ubuntu 8.04 server. I wanted to run this as a server.23:02
Dr_willissilly link that dident look like a link.23:02
geniicarib909: So you managed to reboot into hd after repairing the sudoers file from livecd no and are onto next issue?23:02
Dr_williscarib909,   if wanting to run a server. you proberly will want to be spending some time learning some bash basics,23:02
carib909I am learning23:03
geniiYes indeedy23:03
BooVeMan_workgenii: yes returns a syntax error23:03
BooVeMan_workgenii: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29740/23:03
carib909I am MCSE certified and CCNA, but UNIX is new to me. I am trying to learn through Linux...23:03
geniiBooVeMan_work: What is it thats returning some syntax error?23:03
Dr_williscarib909,  it may be well worth the effort to spend a few hrs learning vi. (put on to do list) heh...23:04
BooVeMan_workthe pastebin i posted23:04
carib909And what is vi?23:04
BooVeMan_workcarib909: test editor liek nano23:04
geniicarib909: When you copied the sudoers file over, you did not also copy the line numbers of each line from pastebin, did you?23:04
Dr_willisgenii,  the wget command did not grab the line #'s :)23:05
carib909ok I will try that, but now its vi or kate or knosole or nano.... which one to use?23:05
Dr_williscarib909,  learn them all.23:05
BooVeMan_workgenii: no we made him do a wget - so no line numbers23:05
geniiDr_willis: OK, good23:05
carib909Right now I jsut want to try to fix broken hosts23:05
BooVeMan_workto me ints not broken...23:06
Dr_williscarib909,  so you need to edit your /etc/hosts file to match the machines actual 'hostname'23:06
carib909genii I did not copy the line numbers23:06
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carib909I still was unable to issue an update command without errors. My update packages would not work or even start when using the gui.23:07
geniicarib909: If you learn vi it is the classic admin tool since things like vipw and vipasswd are based on it. But I personally prefer nano or pico23:07
Dr_willisit pays to learn vi.. :) and learn it well.23:07
BooVeMan_workgenii: or for sudoedit23:07
carib909I followed all the instructions to chmod the file and rebooted but still they say there is something wrong with my hostname23:08
carib909Where does one get docs for vi?23:08
posingaspopularcarib909: google ;p23:08
filo1234carib909:  chmod?? who say to you to use chmod?23:08
BooVeMan_workDr_willis: can you repost what you send him?23:09
BooVeMan_workfilo1234: yes chmod23:09
geniifilo1234: The sudoers file *must* be 440 permissions. So when he recreates one it requires to chmod it23:09
carib909how can I go back to the conversation b4 genii left?23:10
Dr_willisBooVeMan_work,  basically put output of   wget http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/plain/     into /etc/hosts23:10
filo1234BooVeMan_work:  him problem  isn' permission23:10
BooVeMan_workDr_willis: hoope into /etc/sudoers - if not we are blown ;-)23:10
Dr_willisBooVeMan_work,  he never even mentioned hosts untill just now.. it was sudoers23:11
deyvessongente estou tentando instalar o mercury mas naum to conseguindo sou novo no linux alguem pode ajudar?23:11
carib909filo1234 I followed geinii's instructions from 2 hours ago...and the last command was chmod .....23:11
* Dr_willis wonders how the system got so messed up.23:11
filo1234carib909:  ok follow genii23:11
deyvessonalguem do brazil ai?23:12
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.23:12
carib909filo1234 thanks for your help... I am not sure genii is available23:13
filo1234carib909:  i have say to you my solution23:14
carib909I do not fully understand your solution. Can you paste specific step by step actions to take in pastebin for me please?23:15
filo1234carib909:  follow this steps  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29757/23:19
carib909ok thanks let me look23:20
Dr_willishopefully his nano works now....23:20
BooVeMan_workhopefully he knows how to boot into recovery mode23:20
filo1234carib909:  are you able to reboot recovery mode?23:21
Dr_willishopefully he will leve the domain blank in the future. :)23:21
carib909filo1234 when I boot to recovery mode should I select drop to shell?23:21
carib909how do I "edit the line into shell" sudo ?23:22
filo1234carib909:  recovery mode is a tty terminale ( like a shell )23:22
BooVeMan_workDr_willis: my hosts contains domain names and works just fine... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29760/23:22
filo1234carib909:  nope without sudo23:22
Dr_willisBooVeMan_work,  aparently his dosent. :)23:22
BooVeMan_workDr_willis: sadly23:23
carib909how do I execute step 4?23:23
Dr_willisBooVeMan_work,  i was thinking he entered a workgroup name.. not a domain name.23:23
Dr_willisBooVeMan_work,  but i got no idea of the ORIGINAL problem.23:23
BooVeMan_workDr_willis: that may or may not be the difference...23:23
filo1234BooVeMan_work:  him  hostname  is Ubuntu804  on /etc/hosts  he have Ubunto80423:23
Dr_williscarib909,  using the nano editor make the changes.23:23
filo1234Dr_willis:  is not original problem,23:24
Dr_willis127.0.1.1 Ubunto804.Chords Ubunto804       becomes  Ubunto80423:24
filo1234nopeee Ubuntu80423:24
Dr_willistheres been so many problems.. im not even sure what disrto hes using....... :)23:24
carib909BooVeMan I cannot launch synaptic manager or adept23:25
BooVeMan_workDr_willis: (12:26:36 PM) carib909: I have an error in my etc/samba/smb.conf file and I cannot sudo kate to correct tit. Will not let me save. Apt and synaptic cannot identify the host and I can no longer browse hard drives.23:25
carib909I cannot do sudo apt-get updates23:25
MrKennieapt-get update23:26
filo1234carib909:  want follow solutions? or not?23:26
carib909I just printed steps. I am not sure how to reboot to recovery mode shell23:27
geniiI have 30 ppl here I need to go babysit. AFK23:27
carib909lol sorry guys I am just learning23:27
* BooVeMan_work hands genii a beer and a coffee to choose from23:27
Dr_willissounds to me like a lot of unlrelated issues going on.. and i wonder what happened to cause all them23:28
carib909filo1234 so I reboot and select recovery mode which is the 2nd selection then what?23:29
Dr_willisi wonder.. has the machine EVER worked properly?23:29
filo1234carib909: give command23:29
BooVeMan_workcarib909: use the shell option23:29
filo1234carib909:  i have write command on pastebin23:29
filo1234carib909:  print that23:29
carib909It was a clean install but each installation had one issue or another. Mot of the problems came from nvidia drivers.23:30
Dr_willisugh.. if you are wanting to run a server...err... i wont even go there....23:30
carib909filo1234 I printed your pastebin but you maade general staements that I do not know how to execute.23:30
carib909I have run windows 2003 server for years23:31
Dr_willisusing the nano editor, you are going to change 1 line of the file basically.  - is how i read those instructions.23:32
filo1234carib909:  you must to give that commands23:32
carib909here I go23:32
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HardDragoHi F@lks23:35
idooI want to run a pl script as super user23:40
idoohow can i do that23:40
idooits install script23:40
BooVeMan_workidoo: sudo >script>23:40
BooVeMan_workidoo: sudo <script>23:40
idoothanks BooVeMan_work23:42
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ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.23:55

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