[00:03] <Coggz> bye all....
[00:03] <HardDrago> bye coggz
[00:03] <Coggz> it is midnight in england and I need sleep...
[00:03] <Coggz> cya
[00:12] <hdevalence> so my sound just stopped working.
[00:13] <hdevalence> and it's rather strange
[00:14] <hdevalence> when I try to run speaker-test I get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave \n Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy"
[00:55] <posingaspopular> !pdf
[00:55] <posingaspopular> hmm no easy way to edit them?
[00:55] <posingaspopular> !info pdfedit
[00:56] <posingaspopular> groovy, party on #kubuntu
[00:57] <histo> Oh its crazy in hurrr
[00:59] <sgodsell> also if you don't mind beta.   You can also use openoffice 3 now
[01:00] <sgodsell> for pdfs
[01:00] <histo> yay and docx
[01:00] <sgodsell> yes
[01:00] <sgodsell> oo3 is very nice
[01:02] <posingaspopular> thanks sgodsell, the official release is in december am i correct?
[01:02] <sgodsell> I forget when it is released, but you can go to the website to find out
[01:02] <nusakan> Hello. Could someone with more expertise help me to get my laptop to recognize my new external hard drive?
[01:03] <sgodsell> But I am using the beta right now, and I really like it.  Also it is stable for me
[01:03] <histo> nusakan: is it usb?
[01:03] <nusakan> yes
[01:03] <nusakan> it's usb
[01:04] <histo> Okay just plug it in and check lsusb
[01:05] <nusakan> I need to emphasise how little I know what I'm doing. To "check Isusb", is that something you do on a command line, or...
[01:06] <posingaspopular> nusakan: yes open up konsole
[01:06] <posingaspopular> and type 'lsusb'
[01:07] <nusakan> it says 'comand not found'
[01:08] <sgodsell> sudo lsusb
[01:08] <nusakan> no, thats not it either
[01:08] <sgodsell> oh wait path
[01:08] <nusakan> ?
[01:08] <sgodsell> su -l
[01:09] <sgodsell> then lsusb
[01:09] <sgodsell> or you could su -l -c lsusb
[01:10] <nusakan> it says unknown id
[01:10] <sgodsell> what does dmesg say?
[01:11] <sgodsell> the end of the log
[01:11] <sgodsell> dmesg | tail -n 10
[01:11] <nusakan> Unknown id: isusb
[01:12] <sgodsell> nusakan, that is what dmesg stated?
[01:13] <nusakan> yes, if dmesg is the response, then yes
[01:13] <sgodsell> use  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[01:15] <eigenvalue> Hello. has someone encountered Problems with Kaffeine & xv (xvideo with xine) & the recent Nvidia driver ("nvidia-glx-new") & the Nvidia 8xxx series? I get blueish colors instead of skin-colors, when i start a video. I could use some help with that.
[01:17] <nusakan> Ok. Now what?
[01:18] <nusakan> It's http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29443/
[01:18] <sgodsell> well what is the url that it
[01:18] <sgodsell> ok
[01:19] <sgodsell> nusakan, well first of all it is   lsusb  not  isusb
[01:19] <nusakan> Is that a capital i or the vertical line, or what?
[01:20] <sgodsell> and if you wanted to use su with a command then you need to have -c command
[01:20] <sgodsell> Capital I?
[01:20] <sgodsell> type in
[01:21] <sgodsell> su -l -c lsusb
[01:21] <sgodsell> l  - for the letter L
[01:21] <sgodsell> lowercase l
[01:21] <nusakan> the same for lsusb? l is an L?
[01:22] <sgodsell> yes
[01:22] <sgodsell> list usb
[01:22] <sgodsell> ls
[01:23] <nusakan> dmesg "su: Authentication failure"
[01:23] <nusakan> "Sorry."
[01:23] <sgodsell> sudo lsusb
[01:24] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29445/
[01:25] <sgodsell> okay unplug your hard drive for 7 seconds then plug it in
[01:25] <sgodsell> then paste the results of
[01:25] <sgodsell> sudo dmesg
[01:26] <sgodsell> the last 20 lines will do
[01:27] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29446/
[01:29] <sgodsell> hmmm, I see you have an unknown partition problem
[01:29] <bastard> whens 4.1 coming out?
[01:29] <sgodsell> partition table
[01:29] <sgodsell> is this drive formated nusakan
[01:29] <sgodsell> ?
[01:30] <nusakan> I don't think so, I don't know how to do that
[01:30] <sgodsell> [ 4083.508000]  sdb: unknown partition table
[01:30] <sgodsell> okay well then you have to format it
[01:30] <sgodsell> well partition it and then format it
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> amdpengun- http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule
[01:31] <nusakan> Ok, should I look that up on Google?
[01:32] <sgodsell> well you have to decide if you are going to make it one big partition or multiple partitions?
[01:32] <nusakan> Or is it something simple that you can just tell me?
[01:32] <nusakan> what are the advantages?
[01:33] <sgodsell> well what are you using this drive for backup?
[01:33] <sgodsell> if backup then, just make it one big partition then
[01:34] <nusakan> Yes. So, Open Office documents, maybe a few songs, a few movies. But yeah just backup i think
[01:34] <sgodsell> is it going to used on windows boxes as well?
[01:34] <nusakan> Probably
[01:35] <nusakan> Possibly
[01:35] <sgodsell> okay then make 2 partitions.  1 for ntfs and one for linux
[01:35] <sgodsell> like ext3
[01:36] <nusakan> Wait, will I not be able to open in Windows things ive saved in linux?
[01:36] <nusakan> and what's ntfs?
[01:36] <cucumber_> ok I'm new to kde been using gnome for a while any kde way to make a single user PC log in with the only user name at boot?
[01:36] <sgodsell> oh linux can read and write ntfs as well
[01:37] <cucumber_> on gnome I would use the session manager to set these options
[01:37] <sgodsell> nusakan, ntfs is for windows file system
[01:38] <sgodsell> like 2000, 2003, XP and vista use it
[01:38] <nusakan> Ok.
[01:38] <Dragnslcr> And NT
[01:38] <Dragnslcr> Hence the name
[01:38] <nusakan> fs is file system?
[01:38] <nonewmsgs> how do you mount a bin/cue combo?
[01:38] <sgodsell> NT is that still around  ;-)
[01:39] <Dragnslcr> Yes, fs usually stands for file system
[01:39] <nusakan> was that the one with a bull for a logo?
[01:39] <sgodsell> but I was referring to the NT os  ;-)
[01:39] <sgodsell> like NT 3.51,  NT 4
[01:39] <sgodsell> brings back memories
[01:39] <Dragnslcr> Technically yes, since 2000/XP/Vista are all versions of NT
[01:40] <nusakan> So will i have to save things to more than one place?
[01:41] <Dragnslcr> You mean files that you want both Windows and Ubuntu to be able to access?
[01:41] <sgodsell> well nusakan there is another option you could make the whole thing ntfs
[01:42] <nusakan> What would be the disadvantage to that?
[01:42] <sgodsell> because linux can read or write to ntfs
[01:42] <sgodsell> ntfs-3g
[01:42] <Dragnslcr> I think Linux's ntfs drivers are 100% now, but I'm not entirely certain of that
[01:42] <sgodsell> they are
[01:43] <Dragnslcr> I believe you can get ext3 drivers for Windows as well
[01:43] <sgodsell> just format it in linux.  Don't let vista format it
[01:43] <sgodsell> you can do that as well
[01:43] <sgodsell> but then you need to install the drivers on every windows box
[01:44] <sgodsell> it really is up to you nusakan.  How you want to do things
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> If Windows is running on a different computer, you would use Samba anyway
[01:44] <sgodsell> Dragnslcr, he wants to take a usb drive around the place for backup
[01:45] <nusakan> Really? Maybe I don't need the ntfs partition then. See the only reason I would use it with a windows box would be if my laptop crashed and I needed a file I had backed up.
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[01:45] <nusakan> I got this in preparation for leaving for college
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, if it's a USB thumb drive, ntfs would probably be best
[01:46] <sgodsell> well in that case format anyway you want then  ;-)
[01:46] <nusakan> ?
[01:46] <sgodsell> I think it is a 250gig drive
[01:46] <sgodsell> is that right nusakan ?
[01:47]  * sgodsell wishes they would come out with a 250 thumb drive
[01:47] <nusakan> It's not a thumb drive it's an external. I don't know if that makes a difference
[01:47] <sgodsell> no it doesn't
[01:48] <nusakan> Then how should I format it?
[01:48] <ironman_> hi f@lks
[01:48] <sgodsell> hi ironman_
[01:48] <nusakan> I mean, yeah it's 250 gigs
[01:48] <nusakan> Why does that matter?
[01:49] <Dragnslcr> Do you plan on using it frequently for copying files between computers, or is it just a backup?
[01:49] <nusakan> Probably just backup
[01:49] <sgodsell> nusakan, you decide how you want it.   I know what I would do.  Since it is holding data.  I would also format it with an encrypted filesystem (luks)
[01:50] <sgodsell> but then again windows would have a problem with that
[01:50] <sgodsell> unless you go with truecrypt
[01:50] <nusakan> Hmm. I like secrecy
[01:50] <nusakan> See, I don't know what any of this means
[01:50] <nusakan> does that mean it will be password protected or what?
[01:51] <Dragnslcr> If it's primarily backup for an Ubuntu computer, I'd make it ext3
[01:51] <sgodsell> yes it does
[01:51] <Dragnslcr> If you need to recover stuff from it to a Windows box, you can always use an Ubuntu LiveCD
[01:52] <nusakan> To put ubuntu on the windows box?
[01:53] <sgodsell> Dragnslcr, yeah have it boot off the 250 hard drive.
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, you could even partition the USB drive and do a full Ubuntu install to it
[01:53] <sgodsell> no nusakan have ubuntu installed on a partition on the usb
[01:54] <sgodsell> drive
[01:54] <Dragnslcr> Not all computers can boot from a USB device though
[01:54] <sgodsell> that is true
[01:54] <Dragnslcr> Though you could still use a LiveCD and read everything from it
[01:54] <sgodsell> it really depends on how old the systems are ?
[01:55] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, most, if not all, current motherboards can boot from USB
[01:55] <nusakan> This would be in case I can't get to a linux box to recover my files?
[01:55] <Dragnslcr> Motherboards that are a couple years old might not
[01:55] <sgodsell> so have 2 partitons.  1 windows with a livecd image and another partiton that would boot to ubuntu directly (usb booting)
[01:55] <sgodsell> therefore all angles are covered
[01:56] <getBoa> Is anybody here running kubuntu on laptop ? I d like configure the FN key and the Volume... any idea ?
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> No, your 2 partitions would be just like an internal drive, / and /home
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> Well, and a swap partition
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> So I guess 3
[01:57] <sgodsell> sure
[01:57] <nusakan> I guess I need to find my livecd. Where would I put my files then?
[01:57] <SebNaitsabes> if I remember correctly  Outlook can just have it's settings imported into Thunderbird  when both are running on Windows.  however what I am wondering is if I can get the settings from Outlook running in Windows into  Thunderbird  running in Ubuntu,  without  having to say  first install Thunderbird  into Windows and then copy the relivant setting files over to the one in Ubuntu
[01:57] <SebNaitsabes> also if I remember correctlly Outlook has it's own settings for each user, like Thunderbird has profiles
[01:58] <sgodsell> on the main linux partition
[01:58] <nusakan> ok. How do I do this?
[01:58] <Dragnslcr> You'd want to do your backups to /home/yourusername/backups
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> Or whatever directory you want under /home/username
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> In general, you want a separate partition for /home
[01:59] <nusakan> How do I format it?
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> That way if you have system problems, you can reinstall to the / partition without losing user data
[01:59] <sgodsell> I have to go
[02:00] <sgodsell> take care everyone
[02:00] <nusakan> Thank you so much
[02:00] <sgodsell> sorry to leave you nusakan
[02:00] <nusakan> No, thank you for all your help
[02:00] <sgodsell> but Dragnslcr looks like he can help you
[02:00] <sgodsell> take care
[02:00] <nusakan> allright
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> Meh?
[02:01] <nusakan> So how do I format it? And will I need my livecd handy?
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> If you're already running Ubuntu, no
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> Are you using Gnome or KDE?
[02:01] <Blah332> Hello
[02:01] <nusakan> KDE, although Gnome is still on here I think
[02:02] <Blah332> i have a huge problem... i have no upload.....
[02:02] <Sydero> GNOME SUCKS!
[02:02] <Sydero> :D
[02:02] <Blah332> i ran my speed test on http://www.auditmypc.com/speedtest.asp and speedtest.net both of them report no upload....
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> You can use QtParted or gparted to format the drive
[02:02] <Sydero> probably a firewall rule
[02:02] <Blah332> and i cant open gmail....
[02:02] <Blah332> i have no firewall?
[02:03] <Blah332> and if i boot into windows everything works fine....
[02:03] <nusakan> installing QtParted now
[02:04] <Blah332> any idea?
[02:04] <Dragnslcr> nusakan- you'll want three partitions, one ext3 of about 20 GB, one swap of about 2-4 GB (depending on how much memory you have), and the rest as an ext3
[02:05] <Sydero> Why does Ubuntu use ext3, when ReiserFS is usually faster?
[02:05] <nusakan> How many gigs will that give me for files? its 250GB in total
[02:06] <Blah332> please help me...
[02:06] <nusakan> is my external sda or sdb?
[02:07] <nusakan> never mind
[02:07] <Blah332> sdb
[02:07] <nusakan> ok
[02:07] <Dragnslcr> nusakan- you'll probably have about 220 GB on the /home partition
[02:08] <Dragnslcr> Maybe less. I don't feel like doing the hard drive math
[02:08] <nusakan> great
[02:08] <nusakan> ok
[02:08] <nusakan> i have the drive selected. What do I do?
[02:09] <Dragnslcr> Actually, you don't really need to do the partitioning now. You can do it when you install Kubuntu to the drive
[02:09] <nusakan> How do I do that?
[02:10] <Dragnslcr> It'll ask you
[02:10] <nusakan> Oh, and I don't have the newest version of ubuntu on here, is that a problem?
[02:10] <getBoa> Ive installed some applications by apt-get but the the icons on menu does not appear... why ? running on kde 4
[02:10] <Blah332> hello???
[02:10] <Dragnslcr> Nope, but you'll probably want an 8.04.1 CD to install to the USB drive
[02:11] <asobi> is there a way to retrieve typed characters in konsole?
[02:11] <Sydero> hi
[02:11] <nusakan> So I do need a CD to do this?
[02:11] <Sydero> yes
[02:11] <Sydero> press the up arrow
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, you'll want an install CD
[02:11] <facker> what when did the last non alpha version of kubuntu released?
[02:12] <asobi> when it was hidden
[02:12] <asobi> like a password
[02:12] <asobi> which was not echoed
[02:12] <Dragnslcr> facker- 8.04 was released in April (hence the 04)
[02:12] <Dragnslcr> facker- I believe 8.04.1 was released this month
[02:12] <nusakan> Do I need to go out and get one, or use the one that came with my laptop, or what?
[02:12] <Dragnslcr> nusakan- you probably want a new one
[02:13] <nusakan> Wait why am I putting those other partitions on again? Do I really need them?
[02:13] <Sydero> the installer does it automatically
[02:14] <Sydero> yes it's recommended that you have a separate partition for swap for some reason
[02:14] <Sydero> I guess to reduce fragmentation or something
[02:14] <nusakan> So, I can't just use this the same way I would a jump drive? I have to have an OS on it?
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> The swap file system is optimized for swap space
[02:15] <Sydero> sure sure
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> Linux generally doesn't use a swap file the way Windows does
[02:15] <Sydero> windows doesn't really use a pagefile
[02:15] <Sydero> unless an app requires it
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> nusakan- you can use it as just a plain drive if you want. If you do a full install, though, you can use it to boot Kubuntu on another machine
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> Sydero- um, huh?
[02:16] <Sydero> nvm
[02:16] <nusakan> Hmm. That could be an advantage. Would it have all my programs and such?
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> No, it would be an entirely separate installation
[02:17] <nusakan> But i could put whatever programs i wanted on it
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> You might be able to set it up so that instead of installing Kubuntu to that drive, you do something like rsync your entire internal drive to it
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> Not entirely sure how well that would work out
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> I guess it depends on how much you want to play with it
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> If it's just a backup drive, the simplest thing is to just make a single ext3 partition on it
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> Then worry about recovering files from it with a Windows box later if you need to
[02:19] <nusakan> Could I use it as a plain drive until I find a new ubuntu CD, then reformat it?
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> Sure
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> You can repartition and reformat a drive as many times as you want
[02:20] <Dragnslcr> Just be aware that you'll lose everything on it when you do
[02:20] <nusakan> I can just temporarily save it to my laptop.
[02:20] <nusakan> Actually it will all probably be on my laptop already
[02:21] <nusakan> So, where do I find a new Ubuntu CD?
[02:21] <Dragnslcr> It sounds like you're pretty new to all of this, so simpler might be better for now
[02:21] <Sydero> ubuntu.org?
[02:21] <Dragnslcr> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[02:22] <nusakan> Ok thanks
[02:22] <nusakan> alright i think ive formated it
[02:23] <nusakan> how do i get to it?
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> You should be able to enable from there
[02:26] <nusakan> make the type ext3?
[02:27] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, it should be detected as ext3
[02:27] <nusakan> Mount point?
[02:28] <nusakan> What do I make the mount point?
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> Usually something in /media
[02:29] <Dragnslcr> You can name it whatever you'd like, maybe /media/backups
[02:29] <Sydero> it can be anywhere you want
[02:31] <nusakan> I made it /media/JustinCase
[02:31] <Dragnslcr> Heh, that'll work
[02:31] <nusakan> Device: by name?
[02:32] <nusakan> Does that mean I name it there?
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> I don't think you need to do anything for the advanced settings
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> oh
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> Is there anything in the UUID box?
[02:33] <nusakan> It's not selected
[02:33] <nusakan> Should I select it?
[02:33] <Dragnslcr> You can probably leave it as by name for now
[02:33] <nusakan> Can I name it anything
[02:33] <nusakan> ?
[02:33] <Dragnslcr> Should be something /dev/sdb1
[02:33] <Dragnslcr> No, it has to be the /dev entry for it
[02:34] <nusakan> Does it need to match the mount point?
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> No, it isn't the mount point
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> It's the /dev entry
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> Probably /dev/sdb1
[02:35] <Dragnslcr> It should have been autodetected though
[02:35] <nusakan> so try /dev/sdb1
[02:35] <nusakan> ?
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> It should have already been listed
[02:36] <nusakan> It was <device>
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> Are you trying to create it through System Settings?
[02:36] <nusakan> I thought I already formated it
[02:37] <nusakan> Im in system settings now
[02:38] <Dragnslcr> If you formatted it, try unplugging it and plugging it back in
[02:38] <Dragnslcr> Kubuntu should autodetect it
[02:39] <nusakan> Where will it show up? The mount point?
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> Should put an icon on your desktop, too
[02:40] <nusakan> Where will it be?
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> It'll probably mount to /media/sdb1 or something
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> Definitely something in /media
[02:41] <nusakan> No icon
[02:41] <nusakan> it has the folder i made for a mount point, is that it?
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> Nope
[02:43] <nusakan> oops, i think i might not have formatted it right, hang on
[02:44] <nusakan> I didn't click "commit" before. Duurrr
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> That'll do it
[02:46] <nusakan> Ok I did that, then unplugged it and plugged it back in. Still don't see anything
[02:46] <ubuntu_> when i try to install kubuntu it doesn shows me the partitions i have made but only shows one partition .. that is the hardisk. now i used qtparted and it gave the following msg. whats wrong any help? ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo qtparted    Error: Can't have overlapping partitions.
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> nusakan- try check System Settings -> Disks again, see if it's listed
[02:48] <ubuntu_> Dragnslcr:  the partitions are show in disk mounting area
[02:48] <ubuntu_> shown
[02:49] <nusakan> it has the mount point as /proc. Should I make it that folder i made?
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Hm, /proc is weird
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Are you sure it's that disk? Right model and size?
[02:50] <nusakan> I think so
[02:50] <ubuntu_> Dragnslcr:  i think there migt be a problem with my hd. how can i check
[02:50] <ubuntu_> Dragnslcr:  the hd. or partitions
[02:50] <nusakan> can't i just change the mount point?
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> nusakan- if you're sure it's the right drive, sure
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> nusakan- what does it say under Device?
[02:51] <nusakan> 1 Partition 232.9 Gb
[02:52] <nusakan> Which I think is what I did
[02:52] <ubuntu_> Dragnslcr:  the hd. or partitions
[02:52] <ubuntu_> Dragnslcr:  i think there migt be a problem with my hd. how can i check
[02:53] <Dragnslcr> nusakan- in the Device column
[02:53] <Dragnslcr> nusakan- should start with /dev
[02:53] <nusakan> proc
[02:53] <Dragnslcr> Thought you said that was the mount point
[02:53] <nusakan> the mount point is /proc
[02:53] <nusakan> the type is proc
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> So what's in the Device column?
[02:54] <nusakan> and the device is proc
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> Um
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> Go back to QtParted and have it scan for disks
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> Make sure it's really there
[02:54] <posingaspopular> why cant you do this using fdisk -l and fstab?
[02:55] <ubuntu_> are you talking to me
[02:55] <ubuntu_> ?
[02:56] <nusakan> must have forgotten to say the type of partition. Reformatting now...
[02:57] <tomahasamoot> but apt manager says I don't have rt installed
[02:57] <tomahasamoot> what's up w/ that?
[02:58] <nusakan> It's gone
[02:59] <nusakan> from system settings
[03:00] <tomahasamoot> what's gone from system settings?
[03:00] <nusakan> the drive, and it's gone from qtparted and it's making noises
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> nusakan- did qtparted finish?
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> It may still be formatting
[03:00] <nusakan> i think so
[03:01] <nusakan> i thought it did
[03:01] <nusakan> should i unplug and reformat?
[03:03] <nusakan> qtparted is closed and it is still making noises
[03:04] <nusakan> will i mess it up unplugging it?
[03:05] <Dragnslcr> I dunno
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> Probably won't do any physical damage, and it's not like you have to worry about losing data from it
[03:06] <nusakan> ok
[03:08] <nusakan> you don't think it's overheating, do you?
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> I wouldn't think a USB drive would have an overheating problem
[03:10] <nusakan> Well, for whatever reason, even after un/plugging QtParted still can't see it
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> Weird
[03:11] <nusakan> Did I break it somehow?
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> I don't have much experience with external drives, so I'm not quite sure what the problem would be
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> Whenever I plug in a thumb drive, Kubuntu detects it automatically
[03:14] <nusakan> you think restarting my computer might help?
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> You can try
[03:16] <mano> first time using kubuntu hardy i can not navegate with konkeror ??
[03:21] <nusakan> Dragonslcr, are you still there?
[03:25] <ubuntu_> any good  harddisk diagnostic and repairing tool in repos?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> what filesystem are you trying to fix?
[03:41] <epimeth> anybody use kftpgrabber?  I think it doesn't accept usernames with an @ symbol
[03:45] <genii> epimeth: I'm pretty sure that would be an invalid username anyhow
[03:46] <epimeth> genii: its valid... worked for me in windows
[03:47] <Dr_willis> that proves its valid... :)
[03:47]  * genii almost dies laughing
[03:47] <Dr_willis> valid but very very very weird?
[03:48] <nusakan> I am trying to format an external hard drive. I was working on it before, and I've managed to get qtparted to tell me that it can't make a new partition table for it. What do I do?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> could use dd to zero the drive.. and try to reparttiin it
[03:49] <epimeth> its yahoo... they force you to use the username is <your yahoo username>@<your domain>
[03:49] <nusakan> dd?
[03:49] <epimeth> and yahoo uses linux servers so you can't blame it on windows :-p
[03:49] <ezequiel> i need some help
[03:49] <nusakan> What is dd
[03:49] <epimeth> !help | ezequiel
[03:49] <epimeth> !ask | ezequiel
[03:50] <ezequiel> ok
[03:50] <ezequiel> how can i use my ipod in ubuntu
[03:51] <Dr_willis> err.. that would be an email address...    ...
[03:51] <epimeth> ezequiel: you plug it in....
[03:51] <epimeth> Dr_willis: thats not actually an email address
[03:51] <Dr_willis> im still trying to figure out what ftp grabber is grabbing from yahoo...
[03:51] <genii> nusakan: It sort of means DiskDupe     you can make an exact copy of something like a hard drive to another hard drive or to a file, or the other way round (the usual use)
[03:51] <Dr_willis> epimeth,  ive learned to avoude Yahoo. :)
[03:51] <ezequiel> yes
[03:52] <ubuntu_> any good harddisk diagnostic and repairing too in repos?
[03:52] <Dr_willis> what filesystem are you trying to fix? ubuntu_
[03:52] <epimeth> Dr_willis: yea... weren't you in on the conversation (me venting) on sunday?
[03:52] <epimeth> ezequiel: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[03:52] <Dr_willis> epimeth,  been busy with the wife.. listening to her rant..
[03:53] <genii> nusakan: If you put in konqueror the URL  man:/dd     it will tell you a bit about how to use it
[03:53] <Dr_willis> Yahoo manages to buy up these other companeis/tools i use.. and ruin them
[03:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:53] <genii> Dr_willis: Computer Associates used to do that to me
[03:53] <ezequiel> Ubuntu
[03:54] <Dr_willis> using 'dd' to zero out a hard drive is a little extreme. it will whipe all data and all partition information.
[03:54] <genii> nusakan: I do not assist in private message, only in public channel.
[03:55] <Dr_willis> genii,  Last i looked Yahoo is still saying my 'lifetime upgrades to musicmatchjukebox' is being 'worked on' :) since they bought the company.. but they still push  me info on buying it again. :P
[03:55] <nusakan> No, that's fine. There's no data on it. I'm just trying to format it so I can use it. It's brand-new.
[03:55] <Dr_willis> This is a normal ide/sata drive? Weird that you cant partition/format it witgh the normal gparted or other tools
[03:56] <ubuntu_> any good harddisk diagnostic and repairing too in repos?
[03:56] <ezequiel> how can i use my ipod in ubuntu
[03:56] <genii> nusakan: But to answer, no the normal use is not for something like to wipe a disk. Although it can be used for that with something like   sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1    (if sda1 was the partition)
[03:56] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,   for the 3rd time what filesystem are you trying to fix?
[03:57] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis:  i have ext3 and fat32       (i didnt saw your msg. coz it didnt had my nick in it)
[03:57] <genii> nusakan: For formatting just use something like    sudo mkfs.fstype /dev/diskname         eg:   mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
[03:57] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis:  i have hitachi
[03:57] <genii> sudo in front of that last example there
[03:58] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  theres the standard fsck command that can check both those filesystems.
[03:58] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis:  whats that
[03:59] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  the standard 'file system check' command thats in every linux disrto out just about.
[03:59] <Dr_willis>   fsck.ext3      fsck.msdos     fsck.vfat
[03:59] <Dr_willis> try 'fsck <tab> <tab> ' to see all the filesystems fsck can check.
[03:59] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis:  hm. ok
[04:00] <Dr_willis> !fsck
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm the bot is asleep? :(
[04:00] <epimeth> ezequiel: I don't know what gnome apps are installed for ipod use... you should ask in #ubuntu
[04:00] <genii> ubottu awaken
[04:00] <genii> Hmm
[04:00] <epimeth> ezequiel: this is the help channel for kubuntu, not ubuntu
[04:01] <epimeth> Dr_willis: ahahaha... I'm an idiot... I put in the wrong username.  I don't know if it works in kftpgrabber, but konqui and dolphin work all right
[04:01] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29474/
[04:02] <Dr_willis> epimeth,  :) 'pebkac'
[04:02] <genii> nusakan: Does /dev/sdb exist?
[04:02] <epimeth> Dr_willis: eye dee ten kay
[04:03] <nusakan> qtparted can see it, it just can't reformat it
[04:04] <nusakan> Also, if anything i say doesn't make sense, it's because i don't know what im talking about
[04:04] <genii> nusakan: Try /dev/urandom   instead of /dev/zero        If you really wanted to wipe it before formatting it.
[04:04] <genii> nusakan: Although just formatting it should be fine
[04:05] <nusakan> I think i did something wrong before. I hope by wiping it I hope to solve the problem
[04:05] <nusakan> i cant format it, because of... whatever it is i did
[04:05] <genii> nusakan: PErhaps your drive is going?
[04:06] <nusakan> going?
[04:06] <genii> nusakan: Because the "Input/output error" of your paste indicates something hardware possibly
[04:06] <genii> nusakan: eg: Going bad, failing, crashing, etc
[04:07] <epimeth> nusakan: have you tried a low level format?
[04:07]  * genii sips a coffee and thinks
[04:07] <nusakan> I just got it today! I can't have broken it just putting it together right?
[04:07] <Dr_willis> nusakan,  err.. you did 'partion' the drive in to 1 or more partition? then try to format the partitions?
[04:07]  * Dr_willis goes back to disk drive basics. :)
[04:07] <nusakan> They don't show up
[04:08] <nusakan> what's a low level format?
[04:08] <genii> Maybe you had something like a usb stick in that it thinks is still there as sdb. Or that it displaced the drive that used to be sdb previously to some other designation
[04:08] <Dr_willis> with gparted, one normally would partition the drive. hit apply, then gparted should rescan, and show the new partitions. its possible a reboot may be needed to make them show up
[04:08] <nusakan> so maybe put it in another usb port?
[04:09] <Dr_willis> or  you could use the old fashioned command line and fdisk, and format the drive that way and perhaps see any error messages, or info in the 'dmesg' command output
[04:09] <epimeth> nusakan: "formatting" means erasing the table of contents and rebuilding it.  it doesn't actually erase data on the drive.  a low level format writes either all 0s or random gibberish to the entire drive, thus fixing many common ailments (like bad sectors)
[04:09] <genii> Using w to exit fdisk also works to refresh the partition info
[04:09] <nusakan> how do I do a low level format?
[04:09] <Dr_willis> genii,  ive seen a FEW machines/cases wher ive had to reboot..  old  drive/ide controller i think. havent had to do it in ages. :)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> nusakan,  you most likely do NOT need todo a 'low level format' thats a last ditch  thing to try
[04:10] <genii> nusakan: I recommend also Dr_willis' recommendation of closing gparted and using command line with some assistance from here
[04:10] <Dr_willis> nusakan, this is a external usb hard drive? you just want a single partition on it? or somthing more complex?
[04:11] <nusakan> for now, single partition
[04:11] <nusakan> ive got konsole open
[04:11] <Dr_willis> whats the device of the disk?
[04:11] <genii> nusakan: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[04:11] <Dr_willis> sda sdb sdc?  (be sure you got the right disk)
[04:11] <genii> Dr_willis: sdb
[04:11] <Dr_willis> are you REALLY REALLY sure its sdb? :)
[04:11] <Dr_willis> 'final answer' ?
[04:12] <nusakan> how do i make sure?
[04:12] <nusakan> pretty sure sdb
[04:12] <genii> Dr_willis: (from previous)Maybe you had something like a usb stick in that it thinks is still there as sdb. Or that it displaced the drive that used to be sdb previously to some other designation
[04:12] <Dr_willis> 'sudo fdisk -l' may give some good info.
[04:12] <Dr_willis> my fdisk -l shows info on all disks.. for example i KNOW my usb drive is  a specific size.. so i see the info
[04:13] <Dr_willis> Disk /dev/sdb: 2029 MB, 2029518848 bytes
[04:13] <Dr_willis> so i know its sdb. :)
[04:13] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29479/
[04:13] <genii> nusakan: the -l is a - then a little L
[04:13] <Dr_willis> if you cant get any better info from 'sudo fdisk -l' then that.. you got issues. :)
[04:13] <Dr_willis> heh heh..
[04:13] <bdizzle> lol
[04:14] <bdizzle> how do you use scp to transfer an entire directory, rather than trying to zip the directory, send it, then unzip it?
[04:14] <Dr_willis> l as in ls as in LiSt
[04:14] <Dr_willis> bdizzle,  i think it can use the same options as cp.. so the -r or -R shoudl work.. but i rarely use scp
[04:14] <bdizzle> ok
[04:15] <epimeth> bdizzle: scp -r user@host:/path/to/dirname user@host:/path/to/otherdirname/
[04:15] <nusakan> so "my fdisk -l"?
[04:15] <genii> nusakan: JUST:     sudo fdisk -l
[04:15] <Dr_willis> nusakan,  my?  where did that come from... 'sudo fdisk -l'
[04:15] <genii> nusakan: When in doubt copy and paste from here
[04:16] <Dr_willis> install pastebinit also. :) then ya can do a 'sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit'
[04:16] <Dr_willis> my fdisk output -> http://pastebin.com/f722e50cc
[04:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:16] <khaije1> i need a gui for a vm i'm building, what is the best way? i probably won't use it most of the time
[04:17] <khaije1> i was thinking fluxbox?
[04:17]  * genii hisses at Dr_willis' HTFS partition
[04:17] <genii> *NTFS
[04:17] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29482/
[04:17] <Dr_willis> heh heh.
[04:17] <epimeth> Dr_willis: pastebinit?  awesome... totally installing that!
[04:17] <Dr_willis> epimeth,  :)
[04:18] <genii> nusakan: According to that you don't have an sdb
[04:18] <genii> nusakan: Only 6 partitions on sda
[04:18] <nusakan> sssoooo...
[04:18] <epimeth> niiiice!!! I didn't know pastebinit existed :-)
[04:19] <genii> epimeth: I find your enthusiasm for pastebinit totally amusing :)
[04:19] <epimeth> genii: I'm glad you appreciate it
[04:19] <nusakan> guys?
[04:20] <genii> nusakan: You have 1 or 2 hard drives in your computer?
[04:20]  * genii suspects hard drive failure
[04:20] <nusakan> Uh... 1? I think?
[04:21] <genii> nusakan: Ok. So to try clarifying:   drive1 =sda   drive2=sdb Drive3=sdc   and so on   drive1partition1=sda1 drive2partition5=sdb5   and so on
[04:21] <nusakan> ok
[04:22] <genii> nusakan: What exactly is the problem in the beginning that lead you to think something needed to be done?
[04:23] <genii> (wiping or formatting or such)
[04:23] <nusakan> well I wanted to use my new external hard drive
[04:23] <nusakan> so i tried to format it
[04:23] <nusakan> but kubuntu still wouldn't recognize it
[04:23] <genii> nusakan: OK.Do you recall the command or procedure you used, at least somewhat?
[04:23] <nusakan> and then i couldn't even reformat it
[04:24] <nusakan> sort of
[04:24] <nusakan> i was formating it with qtparted a 1 big ext3 partition
[04:25] <nusakan> and i *might* have unplugged it while it was still working or something
[04:25] <genii> nusakan: OK. Is it a USB or Firewire ?
[04:25] <nusakan> usb
[04:26] <genii> nusakan: OK. Unplug it from the computer but leave it powered on. Then turn the drive off. Plug back into computer. Turn it on. Wait maybe 30 seconds then pastebin rsults of command: dmesg|tail
[04:27] <genii> nusakan: The | in the command is pipe symbol usually above Enter key
[04:27] <abwhostw> hi
[04:27] <nusakan> it doesn't have it's own power source
[04:27] <abwhostw> can anyone help me about kthe operator system linux
[04:27] <abwhostw> kubuntu
[04:27] <nusakan> just unplug the usb?
[04:28] <genii> nusakan: Then unplug, wait 30 secs, replug. Then the command
[04:28] <ironman_> what is the prob abwhostw
[04:28] <abwhostw> I want to make my desktop like as server
[04:29] <ironman_> so ??
[04:29] <abwhostw> and the linux is complicate
[04:29] <ironman_> dont u know how to configure ur desktop?
[04:29] <abwhostw> no
[04:30] <abwhostw> how cuz I first time using linux
[04:30] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29486/
[04:30] <abwhostw> before I have only windows server
[04:30] <genii> abwhostw: Kubuntu is not the ideal platform to run as a server. Most servers do not have a local user which is at keyboard and using machine this way but instead are accessed only by other machines remotely getting web pages or so.
[04:30] <genii> nusakan: Reading
[04:30] <epimeth> abwhostw: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[04:30] <genii> nusakan: Looks like your drive is kaput, sorry to say
[04:31] <nusakan> I broke it?
[04:31] <abwhostw> ok I have the Cd of the server ubuntu
[04:31] <abwhostw> but is not work with my pc
[04:31] <genii> nusakan: That is my best guess, yes.
[04:32] <genii> nusakan: To make sure, perhaps reboot with the drive plugged in. Then return here and pastebin the entire results of command: dmesg for examination
[04:32] <epimeth> abwhostw: what do you mean?  and what is your native language, you might find it easier speaking to people who can speak it
[04:32] <nusakan> Do you think it was when i put it in the enclosure, or formating it, or overheating, or just a defective product?
[04:32] <abwhostw> Arabic
[04:33] <genii> nusakan: Probably during either overheating or just defective
[04:33] <epimeth> !ar
[04:33] <epimeth> heh
[04:33] <epimeth> umm
[04:33]  * genii smacks epimeth
[04:33]  * epimeth is properly shamed
[04:33] <nusakan> well, i might have a warranty on it. Ill go ahead and try rebooting then dmesg
[04:33] <abwhostw> man
[04:33] <nusakan> back in a minute
[04:34] <abwhostw> I don't want arabic support
[04:34] <abwhostw> I want one tell me in english
[04:34] <epimeth> abwhostw: okay... so what is the problem?  you can't install kubuntu?
[04:35] <abwhostw> I all ready install
[04:35] <abwhostw> I gone explain to u
[04:35] <epimeth> abwhostw: so read the link I sent you. it will teach you everything you need to know about configuring an ubuntu server
[04:35] <abwhostw> I have the kubuntu all ready installed on my pc how can I make that server
[04:36] <abwhostw> I know
[04:36] <posingaspopular> abwhostw: what kind of server
[04:36] <posingaspopular> what do you want to do with the files?
[04:36] <genii> abwhostw: What kind of serving did you have in mind?
[04:36] <abwhostw> linux
[04:36] <helpthisnoobie> once again i need help
[04:36] <posingaspopular> do you want to host music, do you want to run a website, etc.
[04:36] <helpthisnoobie> i've been searching to no avail
[04:36] <abwhostw> I want kubunt for web hosting
[04:36] <posingaspopular> okay
[04:37] <posingaspopular> !info apache
[04:37] <posingaspopular> ...
[04:37] <genii> apache2 ;)
[04:37] <posingaspopular> helpthisnoobie: ask away
[04:37] <posingaspopular> !info apache2
[04:37] <helpthisnoobie> everytime i minimize a window, it is no longer shown in the task bar
[04:37] <epimeth> abwhostw: then if you scroll down a bit on the page I sent you you will see this link for "Web Servers" : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/web-servers.html
[04:37] <Sydero> !abuse
[04:38] <Sydero> !hackin
[04:38] <Sydero> !hackin
[04:38] <Sydero> !hacking
[04:38] <epimeth> Sydero: who was that for?
[04:38] <Sydero> !tripwire
[04:38] <abwhostw> man i want to install let help me
[04:38] <genii> abwhostw: I would suggest instead of separately installing packages to support the webserver, instead to install package called tasksel      Then issue in a console: sudo tasksel           then choose the LAMP server to install
[04:38] <helpthisnoobie> also I accidently removed so some applets from the task bar I dont know how to get them back
[04:38] <Sydero> you removed the task manaer
[04:38] <Sydero> manager
[04:39] <Sydero> add it back
[04:39] <harpreet> abwhostw what you want to install?
[04:39] <abwhostw> web server
[04:39] <bazhang> helpthisnoobie, right click add
[04:39] <harpreet> abwhostw: apache!
[04:39] <abwhostw> I have all ready server with data center and I pay money
[04:39] <harpreet> abwhostw: !apache
[04:39] <abwhostw> I don't want to pay every month 340 $
[04:39] <genii> abwhostw: Please pay attention to my last remark to you then
[04:40] <harpreet> set up apache
[04:40] <helpthisnoobie> the network icon, the batterry icon, and wallet icon were all together but i dont know how to get them back
[04:40] <genii> harpreet: It's better to tasksel and do LAMP   otherwise need to install php mysql and on and on for support separately each time
[04:40] <harpreet> abwhostw: genii is right u can install LAMP
[04:40] <abwhostw> how to install
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[04:41] <posingaspopular> abwhostw: to install software in ubuntu
[04:41] <harpreet> abwhostw: go to synaptec package manager and install there
[04:41] <posingaspopular> yea..
[04:41] <posingaspopular> !install
[04:41] <posingaspopular> ah wrong factoid...
[04:41] <Sydero> helpthisnoobie, just install all the widgets again
[04:41] <abwhostw> give me the link of the lamp
[04:41] <genii> abwhostw: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install tasksel             When you do that, select LAMP Server or LAMP Install    from the list
[04:41] <Dr_willis> !lamp
[04:42] <genii> There is no "ubuntu-server" metapackage.
[04:42] <Sydero> duh
[04:42] <Sydero> there are many types of servers
[04:43] <helpthisnoobie> so they are called widgets
[04:43] <Dr_willis> we want to serve up Ubuntus! :)
[04:43] <genii> Sydero: He wants some generalised to replace his apparently inadequate hosted boxes
[04:43] <Sydero> instead of installing ubuntu
[04:43] <helpthisnoobie> under 'add applets' or wat
[04:43] <Sydero> find a custom generalized server build
[04:43] <Sydero> yeah
[04:43] <Sydero> wait
[04:43] <Sydero> no
[04:44] <Sydero> right click task bar
[04:44]  * genii gets some more Advil
[04:45] <Sydero> or just figure out what you need
[04:45] <Sydero> and use adept
[04:45] <nusakan> Hey guys
[04:45] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29490/
[04:45] <Dr_willis> custom generalized  :)
[04:45] <helpthisnoobie> ok i get 'add applet to panel', 'add application to panel', 'remove from panel',
[04:45] <Sydero> add applet
[04:46] <Sydero> oh and virtualize everything while you're at it :P
[04:46] <genii> abwhostw: After you install tasksel    you need to run it, I omitteed this by accident on the last instruction.   To run it after install, issue:  sudo tasksel
[04:47] <nusakan> Dr_Willis http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29490/
[04:47] <abwhostw> how I did get it anything
[04:47] <helpthisnoobie> i think i found it
[04:47] <genii> nusakan: Is that your dmesg ?
[04:48] <nusakan> yes
[04:48] <Dr_willis> Not a good sign nusakan  --->     [  122.808000] sdb: Current: sense key: Medium Error [  122.808000]     Additional sense: Unrecovered read error [  122.808000] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0
[04:48] <Sydero> or you could just nuke .kde helpthisnoobie and have everything back to normal :P
[04:48] <Dr_willis> nusakan,  what have you done to the drive so far?
[04:49] <nusakan> tried to format it
[04:49] <Sydero> is it mounted?
[04:49] <Dr_willis> nusakan,   you DID partition it first?
[04:49] <helpthisnoobie> ok how how to i get my minimized windows to show in the task bar
[04:50] <nusakan> yeah, ithink so. i tried to make it one big ext3
[04:50] <Sydero> add the task manager applet
[04:50] <Dr_willis> what does fdisk -l /dev/sdb say about it?
[04:50] <helpthisnoobie> i think i got that too
[04:50] <Dr_willis>  I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0, block 0 - is NOT a good sign. thats the very start of the drive.. where the imporntant MBR is at.
[04:50] <Sydero> just add everything that looks right :P
[04:50] <helpthisnoobie> man I should have just kept checking things.....I just new to this
[04:51] <Sydero> maybe you mounted it wrong willis
[04:51] <genii> abwhostw: I do not give assistance in private message only in public channel. I already have told you how to install what is the same as the server cd. This is in Konsole:   sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install tasksel                   after this done run:  sudo tasksel        then use arrow key to move up and down list and space to select. You want from the list Lamp Server. When selected then hit Tab key to move to OK at bottom of
[04:51] <genii> screen. That is all needs doing to have same as installing the servercd
[04:51] <abwhostw> i get
[04:51] <genii> Hit Enter of course when "ok" is highlighted
[04:52] <Sydero> screw Ubuntu do LFS
[04:52] <Sydero> :D
[04:52] <genii> Sydero: It's not actually all that complicated
[04:53] <Sydero> I suppose
[04:53] <Sydero> it just can get messy
[04:53] <Dr_willis> nusakan,  it may be somthign weird with the usb cable/conector/adaptor. You might want to try plugging it directly into the sata/ide conector and repartioning/formating it that way.. or heck - try partition/formating it under windows, or with a live cd.
[04:53] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29493/
[04:53] <Sydero> or you didn't mount it right
[04:53] <genii> nusakan: There is some utility to make a new mbr for a drive if it is messed up. Give me a minute
[04:54] <Sydero> in windows yes
[04:54] <Dr_willis> nusakan,  ya may want to look at the Outpyut you are pastebining.. :) you messed up the fdisk command again.  ya need a SPACE in there.
[04:54] <genii> !info mbr
[04:54] <Dr_willis> nusakan,  fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[04:55] <Sydero> What's -l for?
[04:55] <Dr_willis> List. :)
[04:55] <nusakan> Dr_Willis check that pastebin
[04:55] <Dr_willis> 'sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit'
[04:55] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29493/
[04:56] <Dr_willis> thatx the same one... :)
[04:56] <genii> nusakan: Put a space there after the -l
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Install pastebinit with 'sudo apt-get instll pastebinit'
[04:56] <Dr_willis> then use the command
[04:56] <genii> nusakan: Also use sudo
[04:56] <Dr_willis> 'sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit '
[04:59] <nusakan> did it
[04:59] <nusakan> says default pastebin: http://paste.stgraber.org
[04:59] <genii> nusakan: Managed to partition it?
[05:00] <nusakan> no, did the pastebinit thing
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm try the command again. it should of gave  actual #
[05:00] <nusakan> it doesnt
[05:00] <Dr_willis> http://pastebin.com/f1b080104
[05:00] <Dr_willis> It does here. :)
[05:01] <genii> nusakan: Your URL just has blank page
[05:01] <Dr_willis> xchat even can pipe the output  to the channel --->       /exec -o  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[05:01] <Dr_willis> be CAREFULL with /exec -o :)
[05:01] <needhelp> err i can't play my dvd movies on kubuntu with kaffine.. keep saying something like the source cannot be read
[05:01] <needhelp> !dvd
[05:01] <nusakan> i think im just gonna try to get a replacement
[05:03] <nusakan> Thanks for trying to help guys
[05:03] <Dr_willis> Good luck... night all.
[05:04] <needhelp> still won't work after i install libdvdcss2 :(
[05:05] <genii> needhelp: Try also w32codecs libk3b2-extracodecs
[05:06] <h2i> how do you get (diacritics | spanish characters) in (kde | kubuntu)
[05:07] <genii> needhelp: Also non-free-codecs
[05:08] <dreamor> Well I can't seem to get my ICH5 based audio to work? Anyone know of issues with this chipset?
[05:09] <needhelp> libxine-extracodecs and ibk3b2-extracodecs same?
[05:09] <genii> needhelp: Nope
[05:09] <genii> dreamor: Isw it intel HDA?
[05:09] <dreamor> YEs
[05:09] <needhelp> do i need to do something after installing? the vlc or kaffine still can't play.. but i'm able to mount the disc and read the content
[05:10] <needhelp> manual playing of the VOB file with vlc doesn't work
[05:10] <genii> !intelhda | dreamor then perhaps try
[05:10] <genii> needhelp: kaffeine should play it. Did you have the player open during codec installs? If so close/reopen
[05:12] <dreamor> Hmm sorry not intel-hda it's intel ICH5
[05:12] <dreamor> the driver is snd_intel8x0
[05:12] <needhelp> libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB (0x000023aa) <--
[05:12] <genii> dreamor: Ah. No idea offhand in that case then
[05:13] <needhelp> what does it mean?
[05:13] <genii> needhelp: Probably one of the new encryptions then
[05:13] <needhelp> something to do with region code?
[05:13] <h2i> well that was easy
[05:13] <genii> needhelp: No, not region code related
[05:13] <h2i> just picked the spain basic layout
[05:14] <genii> h2i: :)
[05:14] <needhelp> hmm..so that's it i can't play dvds? :(
[05:14] <genii> needhelp: Did you try an older one in there yet?
[05:15] <needhelp> older dvds? i can try...
[05:16] <genii> needhelp: Google tells me this error happens sometimes on 64bit
[05:17] <needhelp> sorry what
[05:17] <needhelp> what's 64bit??
[05:18] <genii> needhelp: 64bit version of (k)ubuntu as opposed to 32 bit version
[05:18] <genii> needhelp: Although also it seems you may be correct in region code guess also, some reports of this also
[05:19] <genii> This from http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=5229524
[05:20] <genii> needhelp: After midnight here, i have to leave. Perhaps ask also in #ubuntu channel
[05:22] <needhelp> yeah thanks!! i think its the region code.. i tried a *pirated* dvd and its playing
[05:22] <rekusha> русские тут есть?
[05:22] <needhelp> but this original dvd can't play ;p
[05:27] <posingaspopular> needhelp: you ned to run the script...
[05:27] <posingaspopular> one sec
[05:28] <needhelp> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh ? i've done that :(
[05:28] <toulouse> hey guys, how do i use the linux write command over a network?
[05:28] <needhelp> rsync or ftp ?
[05:29] <toulouse> i'm assuming that wasnt towards me
[05:29] <posingaspopular> hmm
[05:29] <posingaspopular> really
[05:30] <abwhostw> any one help me how to install
[05:30] <needhelp> toulouse: write as in transfer file over a network?
[05:30] <abwhostw> apache to my computer
[05:30] <toulouse> write to chat over network
[05:30] <toulouse> or wall will work
[05:30] <toulouse> but i cant get it connect over my wifi
[05:31] <toulouse> i tried sending a msg. but it said that user@hostname was not logged on
[05:31] <toulouse> i know that's not true
[05:31] <needhelp> the other party is using what os?
[05:31] <toulouse> mac
[05:32] <toulouse> well, i have both computers sitting here in front of me
[05:32] <needhelp> ermmm what do u mean by write to chat? hehe just curious
[05:32] <toulouse> 'write'
[05:32] <toulouse> or 'wall'
[05:32] <abwhostw> hello any body help me
[05:32] <toulouse> they are commands
[05:33] <CQ> morning... I would like a script to run before sleep or hibernate to unmount truecrypt volumes... do I need to stick something in an init state or do I need to stick it in /etc/acpi?
[05:34] <abwhostw> hello
[05:35] <abwhostw> hi
[05:46] <h2i> any reason why i see Â¨í»³÷åíí¯¿Â¨ instead of russian characters?
[05:47] <h2i> because i can type russian characters ¨дфао¨ but can´t see them in amarok
[05:58] <abwhostw> hi
[05:58] <abwhostw> any one can help me
[06:01] <Ronaldo2> !mount
[06:14] <needhelp> !nspluginwrapper
[06:15] <Lenaud01> I am trying to use the imageflow in calibre and it says that API v 3.7 anyone??
[06:15] <needhelp> !flash
[06:16] <ransom> TEST
[06:16] <ransom> nic
[06:16] <ransom> my irc virginity popped
[06:17] <posingaspopular> ..
[06:20] <ransom> hello?
[06:20] <ransom> ?
[06:25] <needhelp> wow i'm having so much problem installing a simple flash plugin
[06:25] <frodo> then dont install it
[06:25] <needhelp> stucked.. keep saying md5 checksum mismatch..googled, tried many solutions still can't
[06:26] <abwhostw> can any one help me how to install server on my computer to make web hosting
[06:30] <nexes_> anyone know a good programming channel
[06:32] <frodo> google it
[06:33] <needhelp> how to get nspluginwrapper?
[06:35] <Lenaud01> im on hardy and have newer versions is there a way to downgrade?
[06:35] <Lenaud01> On linux you need pyqt4 >= 4.4.2 and sip >= 4.7.6 for it to work
[06:39] <Honcho501> hello!
[06:40] <Honcho501> ﻿ is anyone having problems with add/remove applications?
[06:44] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've enabled compiz-fusion (desktop effects), but i can't seem to load the desktop effects application.  any ideas?
[06:46] <Honcho501> I am having the same issue fulat2k
[06:47] <Tired_> Hi.  Is there a limit on how long the 8.04 64-bit live cd from shipit can be used?
[06:47] <fulat2k> Honcho501: uh... i think it's the diff app.
[06:47] <Tired_> I had it running just fine for about 10 days, but it suddenly ran out of space on the ram disk and everything crashed or froze....
[06:47] <Honcho501> I get application not available when I try to install any new application from the list
[06:49] <Tired_> 2GB of RAM, C2D processor, if that matters.
[06:51] <Tired_> I"M WONDERING IF THAT"S NORMAL (and thus, if I should be looking to schedule a reboot for the kiosk once a week or something), or if I should be finding a problem.
[06:51] <Tired_> ack
[06:51] <Tired_> sorry
[06:56] <Tired_> Am I in the wrong channel for Kubuntu 8.04 support?
[06:57] <chalcedony> Tired_:
[06:57] <chalcedony> people do sleep sometimes
[06:57] <chalcedony> you could also ask in #ubuntu
[06:58] <chalcedony> or #kubuntu-country whatver
[06:58] <Tired_> Oh, ok.  Thank you.  :)
[06:58] <Jucato> Tired_: you mean you were running the live cd 10 days straight without rebooting or shutting down?
[06:59] <Tired_> Yes.
[06:59] <carlosr> :O
[06:59] <Tired_> It was fine for days, but suddenly it came up with low disk space notices, and then everything died.
[06:59] <fulat2k> Tired_: wow.. i'm amazed you were able to use a livecd w/o rebooting for 10 days :)  that's a "stress" test right there :P
[06:59] <Jucato> ok, here's the problem. normally, live cd's live in the ram when used. they don't make use of any hard disk. so naturally, in the course of 10 days, your ram will be used up
[07:00] <Jucato> since RAM is also being used by programs and disk cache
[07:00] <Jucato> maybe using a swap would help. but I think eventually it really will have no space left
[07:00] <Tired_> Hmm.  Is there a way to use quotas to tell it not to use too much for that?  the system is just a web browsing kiosk
[07:01] <Tired_> it doesn't have a hard drive
[07:01] <Jucato> there probably is. but the problem is that, since it's a live cd, you will have to find a way to save settings in between crashes/reboots/shutdowns
[07:02] <Tired_> no need...the default 8.04 live cd is just fine for my needs...i'm just trying to keep it from dying when i'm not around
[07:03] <Tired_> seems to make it through 10 days...if i  reboot it while i'm around once a week or so, i should be ok, right?
[07:03] <needhelp> this is driving me nuts.. installing flashplugin-nonfree keeps giving md5sum mismatch error.. i have no nspluginwrapper, and i've updated my apt-get..can anyone help me? :(
[07:03] <needhelp> !flash
[07:05] <needhelp> i read that.. still md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[07:05] <Jucato> Tired_: sure. but 10 days is a bit arbitrary.. something might happen that could cause the system to eat up more memory before the 10 days are up
[07:05] <kg-away> repo error?
[07:06] <neko_> Hello all, I open new forum. in forum u can found movies, games, Linux games,Linux distro And many... Please come on :http://www.nekos.yoyo.pl/index.php
[07:06] <nuxil> !lbrc
[07:06] <nuxil> anyone got lbrc working ?
[07:07] <nuxil> im trying to install it, but i only get errror when running ./setup build
[07:07] <Jucato> neko_: do not spam
[07:07] <nuxil> error: file 'uinputbridge' does not exist <-- is ther error i get..
[07:08] <Tired_> Hmm.  maybe I'm looking at the wrong tool for the job, then.  there must be a decent web browser applicance live distro somewheres
[07:08] <nuxil> but in my /dev/input uinput is listed
[07:08] <Jucato> Tired_: well, you're definitely using the live cd for purposes beyond it's original intent :)
[07:08] <Tired_> Thank you anyways, for the answers, the food for thought, and the killer distro.  :)
[07:09] <tictric> Tired_: there's distros you can install on an usb stick
[07:09] <Tired_> if everyone used linux for only what it was originally intended for, we'd all be pretty bored
[07:09] <tictric> get yourself one with 4gb and off you go :)
[07:10] <Tired_> that's a good idea...i have an 8GB SDHCccccc ard i could use easily
[07:10] <Tired_> so i can save for a keyboard with a working shift key  :/
[07:10] <tictric> google's your friend
[07:10] <Jucato> you'll probably have better luck there since a USB stick is writeable
[07:11] <Tired_> Cool.  I will look into that.  Thanks.  :)
[07:14] <fulat2k> i'm getting python error when running desktop-effects-kde4... "ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK15QSessionManager14discardCommandEv"
[07:14] <fulat2k> any idea waht that is?
[08:27] <_StefanS_> anyone having trouble with knetworkmanager in hardy (w/latest updates)
[08:28] <jussi01> not I...
[08:29] <_StefanS_> hmm wierd
[08:29] <_StefanS_> gears just keep spinning
[08:29] <_StefanS_> I wonder if dbus or hal is making some fuss
[08:38] <cody> how do i change my desktop resolution i cannot find it in kcontrol
[08:38] <``orv> hi
[08:38] <``orv> how can I configure this mouse properly?
[08:38] <``orv> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/410QW4Q0WAL._SS400_.jpg
[08:39] <_StefanS_> thats one ugly mouse :)
[08:41] <cody> how can I change my desktop resolution
[09:16] <Taggnostr> is there a way to understand why sometimes when I turn on the pc I get a kernel panic?
[09:16] <Taggnostr> I think it's related to nvidia drivers, but sometimes it happens, sometimes it works
[09:18] <Taggnostr> there is the call trace, a code and a couple of messages
[09:37] <``orv> works pretty good
[09:37] <``orv> besidos the less the mouse is used the better
[09:38] <``orv> is hell'uv annoying having to leave the hands off the keyboard
[09:38] <``orv> na mean son
[09:40] <``orv> pp/part
[09:46] <Taggnostr> how can I find out the kernel version?
[09:47] <simi> hi i have kubuntu hardy and i made a bootchart capture http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3983/hardy200807231yw8.png    , any ideea how can i improve boot performance at the 50s it seams i have a period of silence?
[09:47] <Jucato> Taggnostr: "uname -r"
[09:48] <Taggnostr> thanks
[09:51] <cihad> hi
[09:51] <cihad> hiiiii
[09:52] <cihad> s.a. türk var mı aramızda ???
[09:53] <cihad> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[10:13] <neko_> www.nekos.yoyo.pl   Mine Forum about linux Warez !
[10:14] <ubunturos> :-/
[10:17] <d_o_r_i_a_n> hi
[10:17] <d_o_r_i_a_n> what software shoul i use in kubuntu to play DVD iso's ?
[10:17] <d_o_r_i_a_n> iso DVDs
[10:18] <ubunturos> d_o_r_i_a_n: DVD iso's Play?
[10:18] <d_o_r_i_a_n> first i mount them-with what?
[10:18] <d_o_r_i_a_n> second i play from virtual drive
[10:19] <Jucato> !iso | d_o_r_i_a_n
[10:19] <d_o_r_i_a_n> thnx
[10:19] <d_o_r_i_a_n> mplayer is good for DVDs?
[10:19] <d_o_r_i_a_n> Dragon Player?
[10:21] <pag> d_o_r_i_a_n, well at least mplayer plays about everything.. so does xine, so if Dragon player uses either, it should work
[10:22] <d_o_r_i_a_n> but if the DVD image's format is .nrg ?
[10:22] <d_o_r_i_a_n> now i saw that
[10:23] <pag> d_o_r_i_a_n, iirc there is tool called nrg2iso ...
[10:23] <Strog576> i tried to make my internet connection via eth0 and configure a router via ath0 and i entered the following commands
[10:23] <d_o_r_i_a_n> convert the nrg to iso?
[10:24] <Strog576> http://www.pastebin.org/56301
[10:24] <Strog576> now i cant access the internet
[10:24] <Strog576> how can i restore this
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:36] <d_o_r_i_a_n> hi
[10:36] <vishal> hi
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> werd
[10:37] <vishal> what??
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> is there a media player similarto amarok's xul player that gives an interface to the player but the sounds come out of the remote pc. I dont want to stream to the client system. just to be able to control via web interface
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> I tried amarok's web interface but i could not load another playlist, I could only play what was onscreen
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> amarok's xul interface is awesome but mobile phone browsers do not do XUL
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> and id love to be able to manage my media playing from my phine :)D
[10:43] <faileas> use VNC? ;p
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> can anyone please advise
[10:44] <faileas> ActionParsnip: i seem to recall VLC having such a capability
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> was considering that, just trying to make it as transparent as possible with minimal installs
[10:45] <faileas> no no
[10:45] <faileas> i mean VLC having some form of remote control plugin
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> i dont mind dropping amarok if something more suitable exists
[10:45] <faileas> VERY vaguely tho
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> oh, i'll check it out
[10:46] <``orv> hi
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> :D
[10:46] <``orv> what's the kde4 torrent klient??
[10:46] <Jucato> ktorrent (KDE 4 version)
[10:47] <Strog576> http://www.pastebin.org/56301
[10:47] <Strog576>  i tried to make my internet connection via eth0 and configure a router via ath0 and i entered the following commands
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | ``orv
[10:47] <Jucato> ``orv: and #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4 questions. thanks
[11:08] <dvoid> hello :)
[11:08] <ActionParsni1> yo yo yo
[11:08] <dvoid> im having som ati fglrx driver problem, 2d works fine, but opengl stuff is just black windows :D
[11:08] <dvoid> any ideas what could be causing this?
[11:09] <ActionParsni1> !ati | dvoid
[11:09] <dvoid> reinstalled the drivers, checked for conflicting libGL's etc but found nothing
[11:09] <ActionParsni1> you done that?
[11:10] <dvoid> and yes i have a x1600
[11:11] <ActionParsni1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310189
[11:11] <ActionParsni1> dvoid: are you using beryl or any other garbage like that?
[11:12] <dvoid> ActionParsni1: nono
[11:12] <ActionParsni1> good
[11:12] <ActionParsni1> one less cog in the machine
[11:12] <dvoid> ;)
[11:13] <ActionParsni1> the posts in that link look good, the bottom is particularly interesting
[11:15] <ActionParsni1> any joy?
[11:17] <dvoid> not yet :S
[11:18] <ActionParsni1> keep us posted
[11:22] <dvoid> im going trough my xorg log,
[11:45] <ubuntu_> Riddell: Konversation seems okay desktop on the whole seems alright
[11:45] <Riddell> ubuntu_: ok, good, maybe we just have a spare 80Megs for no reason then :)
[11:55] <lakis1982> are there any antivirus  for kubuntu ?? should we use antivirus , or antispyware in kubuntu ???
[11:57] <aomegax4> Hi...how do I mount a .toast image?
[12:01] <tictric> lakis1982: there's clamav antivirus if you want to look at it.
[12:01] <lakis1982> do u use any antivrus?
[12:01] <tictric> not on the workstations
[12:02] <tictric> I got it on the mailserver though
[12:02] <tictric> reduces spam a lot :)
[12:02] <tictric> if you don't get the worms and such at least
[12:04] <tictric> but since I don't use any windows I don't really care about viruses and such
[12:04] <tictric> If the system is setup correctly there's not too much to worry about if you're behind a good router
[12:36] <Nyad> hi. Please can someone give me a scenario in which you would use hard links instead of soft links
[12:37] <ahmos> hi. i need a good programme for editing subtitles
[12:40] <ActionParsni1> http://home.gna.org/gaupol/
[12:41] <ActionParsni1> Nyad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_link
[12:42] <ahmos> thank's
[12:42] <Nyad> ActionParsni1, thanks
[12:43] <ActionParsni1> np Nyad
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[12:54] <lesergi> hello
[12:54] <lesergi> I have Kubuntu 8.04.1
[12:54] <lesergi> but I can't find how change kde splash...
[12:55] <neko_> #cieszyn
[12:59] <neko_> www.nekos.yoyo.pl
[13:15] <lesergi> hi all
[13:16] <lesergi> I want to configure xdg-open, I set alternative browser like firefox, but xdg-open still opens konqueror... I want firefox
[13:23] <jarmes> I am attempting to add an AIM account to Kopete, but when I click on Settings->Configure the application freezes
[13:23] <jarmes> I have searched for documentation for the kopeterc file to add it manually and found nothing
[13:24] <jarmes> All of the the forums I hvae found where users report this issue seem to revolve arounf Webcams, but I do not have a webcam
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:02] <raymears> hey everyone, i've got a small issue. don't know whether it's kde related ( if not, i'd appreciate it if you were to refer me to the appropriate irc channel) the problem is this: i'm using eclipse ganymede on kubuntu 7.10 and eclipse attemts to start, then displays a blank window (by the size of it, it looks like a dialog/warning window) and freezes. i think this might be a gui issue. any suggestions?
[14:03] <rav> hello. is it possible that nvidia drivers are only installed for one user?
[14:05] <druv_> help
[14:05] <druv_> how t
[14:05] <druv_> how do you uninstall win4lin pro 5
[14:06] <MATRUX> wel
[14:06] <Nyad> raymears, try #eclipse
[14:06] <MATRUX> i need help here
[14:06] <raymears> Nyad:   thanks
[14:06] <Nyad> raymears, np
[14:07] <MATRUX> gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss
[14:07] <umarzuki> evening
[14:08] <umarzuki> what's the best way to use kubuntu and get rid of gnome?
[14:08] <Pici> !purekde
[14:08] <ubuntu_> what does this means and how do i check all. this isnt checking........ ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -A -V -a sda
[14:08] <ubuntu_> fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)     Checking all file systems.
[14:08] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[14:10] <umarzuki> ubottu: tahnks
[14:10] <umarzuki> thanks
[14:11] <rav> ubuntu_ try it without the 'sda' at the end
[14:11] <ubuntu_> rav:  same answer
[14:12] <rav> ubuntu_: works for me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29589/
[14:13] <incorrect> i wonder if it would be possible to separate out kde3 and kde4 in the suite you select from Adept
[14:13] <rav> ubuntu_: what type of filesystem do you have?
[14:14] <ubuntu_> ext3 and fat32
[14:14] <ubuntu_> rav:  ^
[14:14] <rav> incorrect: i think they are separate. I have a pure kde3 install
[14:15] <incorrect> rav: what i mean is, if you look at adept, you can choose (at the top) 'Any Suite','Gnome','KDE'  however KDE gives you both kde3/4
[14:16] <pm2> I'm having some trouble with Kubuntu - latest version, fully up-to-date, kernel 2.6.24-19-386.  Basically, all of the programs running in my laptop will freeze, one-by-one.  That is, one program will freeze, but I'll be able to switch to another program that will work for a few seconds before it freezes, etc.  After about 20 seconds, everything "unfreezes" and goes back to working like normal.
[14:16] <pm2> This process repeats approx every 5-8 minutes or so.  The computer never completely freezes (ie, I can still move the mouse, some buttons still respond, etc.)  Output from dmesg is here: http://dpaste.com/66911/
[14:16] <pm2> Also, depending on which kernel I'm using, the problem can happen more or less frequently.  It also did not start happening until I upgraded to a certain kernel version (sorry, I can't remember which one, but it was probably about 6 months ago)
[14:16] <ubuntu_> rav:  can you past the results in #justpastit ? my browser not working
[14:16] <rav> incorrect: i don't use adept, i use aptitude. gives you far more control. and on aptitude there's a kde package that carries kde 3.5.x and a kde4 package
[14:17] <rav> incorrect: and on the release of kde 4.1 RC1, they said that it could run parallel to kde 3.5.x, as it gets its own libraries and everything
[14:18] <ubuntu_> rav:  can you past the results in #justpastit ? my browser not working
[14:18] <incorrect> i hope so, as imho kde4 is not ready yet and i am too nervous to convert yet
[14:19] <ubuntu_> rav:  nevermind
[14:20] <rav> incorrect: check your installation with aptitude, and see if you have any piece of kde4 installed
[14:21] <incorrect> i know what i am doing with apt and dpkg, but i just liked using the adept to find apps
[14:22] <incorrect> problem is that adept now shows kde4 over kde3, so unless you are careful you can simply install kde4
[14:22] <rickey> adept manger has chaseddd
[14:22] <rav> incorrect: adept is a nice application, i just wish it had the preview function that aptitude has
[14:23] <rickey> whats the command to unlock it
[14:24] <rav> rickey: do you mean it crashed?
[14:24] <rickey> good morning friends
[14:25] <rickey> it wont unlock
[14:25] <steven_> hoi
[14:25] <rickey> another app is useing it
[14:26] <rickey> in other words , it wont llet me in
[14:27] <rav> rickey: try 'ps -A | grep dpkg'
[14:28] <rickey> that command is not fond
[14:30] <maui> hi guys after configuring guarddog to allow IRC, i dunno why but the chat doesn-t work... help_
[14:31] <rav> maui: i've found that all the tools that are supposed to help you build a firewall don't really do it. it was easier for me to learn the basics of iptables
[14:31] <rickey> anyone elas know the the command to  open adept mmmanager
[14:31] <rickey> sorry i got a slow finger
[14:31] <stdin> !aptfix
[14:32] <rav> rickey: what's the exact error you get when opening it? paste it here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[14:32] <stdin> rickey: see what ubottu just said
[14:32] <rickey> thank you
[14:33]  * genii hands stdin a coffee
[14:33] <stdin> mmmm, coffeeeeeee
[14:34] <genii> :)
[14:34] <rav> maui: try pasting the result of 'sudo iptables -L'
[14:34] <genii> Any interesting/persistent problems?
[14:37] <rav> i've been wondering why my nvidia driver only activate after i log in to kde, as in i get an ugly low resolution kdm login
[14:38] <maui> alright one sec
[14:39] <maui> cuz the thing is if i abilitate guarddog automatically it disconnects the IRC chat even if i allowed it give me one moment and i-ll paste it
[14:40] <rickey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29597/
[14:41] <maui> http://pastebin.com/m2291145f alright here it is iptables
[14:41] <maui> (now neither firefox works...)
[14:43] <rickey> HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT MY PASTEBIN?
[14:43] <rickey> sorry about the cap,s
[14:45] <rav> maui: do you need all the logging chains?
[14:45] <maui> dunno what that is
[14:46] <maui> i want every port to be closed but amule msn irc and firefox
[14:46] <maui> dont need anything else
[14:46] <rav> maui: guarddog is setting up a fairly complicated set of logs and filters, that are not quite needed unless you set up a server
[14:46] <brewmaster> is there some sort of plugin for konqueror that lets me easily upload files to my webserver via FTP?
[14:47] <brewmaster> ideally, i'd like to be in konqueror and just right-click and, say, 'Put'
[14:47] <steven_> sever van mij wil ik linuks hebben kan dat???
[14:47] <brewmaster> but i don't want it to mirror local and remote
[14:48] <rav> maui: uninstall the current firewall and guarddog
[14:48] <trappist> what's the dutch channel?
[14:48] <trappist> !nl
[14:49] <maui> and then_ what do i do_
[14:50] <abwhostw> hi
[14:51] <rav> maui: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29598/ copy that into a file on your system. change line 25 to match your LAN ip
[14:52] <maui> sorry rav but i dunno how to
[14:52] <rav> maui: create a text file, and copy that into it
[14:53] <maui> no i no this i dunno whatz my lan ip_
[14:53] <maui> how do i c it_
[14:53] <rav> maui: you can delete line 25 if you don't share files or printers over a local network
[14:53] <maui> i dont
[14:53] <maui> i only use amule but thatz not over a local network
[14:53] <rickey> ok i tink i know what messed up my adept manager , it was my adept get
[14:54] <rav> maui: then delete that line and save the file
[14:54] <rickey> how  do i close or reset  adeptget
[14:55] <maui> and then_
[14:55] <rav> maui: now on a console: sudo iptables-restore < /path/to/the/file.txt
[14:56] <maui> rav you-ll be here in an hour_
[14:56] <rav> maui: most likely
[14:56] <maui> if yes ill be back cuz this is not the computer i have to do it on
[14:56] <sidney> anyone knows how to install warcraft three on kubuntu?
[14:56] <maui> c u later thank u
[14:57] <rav> no problem
[14:58] <sidney> anyone knows how to install warcraft three on kubuntu?
[14:58] <rickey> how do i close or rest my adept get
[14:58] <rickey> reset
[14:59] <rickey> how do i close or reset my adept get
[14:59] <rickey> please give me the command
[15:02] <genii> rickey: What do you mean by "adept get" ?
[15:02] <genii> Is it timing out trying to reach a repository?
[15:02] <rickey> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).
[15:02] <rickey> Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself.
[15:03] <genii> !aptfix | rickey
[15:03] <genii> rickey: Also make sure the automatic updater is closed, also anything that may be using the packaging system. like a window with Adept open
[15:04] <ocs> hi. i want to send, trhough a command line which uses Kmail , a mail file (1216821013.17751.ezUyq) which is saved in .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/drafts/cur. how can i do?
[15:06] <genii> ocs: About kmail from command line I don't know. But if you have the package mailutils installed you can do like:   mail -s "subject" someone@wherever < /the/content
[15:08] <rickey> this is what it is say ing it,s doing now.
[15:08] <rickey> Setting up language-pack-en-base (1:7.10+20080205) ...
[15:08] <rickey> Generating locales...
[15:08] <rickey>   en_AU.UTF-8...
[15:08] <abwhostw> hi
[15:08] <abwhostw> how to make my pc server
[15:08] <ocs> genii: that's what i want to avoid. instead, i want to save somewhere a mail template, composed with a gui, and then send the resulting file with a simpler command
[15:08] <abwhostw> did any one know how to do
[15:09] <genii> abwhostw: Perhaps visit channel #ubuntu-server
[15:10] <abwhostw> hi
[15:10] <rickey> geni thats where it stoped is it done
[15:10] <genii> rickey: Probably.
[15:11] <genii> rickey: I normally run in Konsole: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     to make sure all updates are done
[15:12] <genii> ocs: I'm perhaps confused by your response. What is it you're trying to avoid?
[15:14] <ocs> genii: in my command line I don't want to insert destinations, attachment etc. I want to send a mail.sometype file wich already includes these parameters and which is created by a gui editor
[15:16] <genii> ocs: You might have to write some script to do this then.
[15:16] <ocs> genii: that's what i want to avoid!!
[15:17] <ocs> genii: i wouldn't have asked for a such stupid thing, otherwise
[15:17] <ocs> I already know that there are mailultils
[15:18] <genii> ocs: What I mean is that you should do some small script which yanks out the address subject etc etc automatically from the gui created whatever and then feed it into the mailutil commandline of mail <whatever options> so that all you end up doing is what you were asking as an end resut, which is to execute scriptname
[15:20] <ocs> genii: i'm sure there's already, somewhere, a script for parsing that. i don't want to write it by myself
[15:20] <lunaris> Does anyone know some good program for ASUS TV/FM cards?
[15:21] <rickey> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:21] <rickey> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:21] <rickey> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:21] <rickey> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:21] <rickey> rickey@home:~$
[15:21] <Jucato> !paste | rickey
[15:21] <rickey> what do you make of this
[15:21] <Jucato> !adeptfix | rickey
[15:22] <rickey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29606/
[15:22] <Angel_of_Doom> deste cobani
[15:23] <Angel_of_Doom> jel ima neko iz srbije?
[15:23] <bazhang> Angel_of_Doom, english
[15:23] <Angel_of_Doom> ok madafaka
[15:23] <Angel_of_Doom> xD
[15:23] <bazhang> no cursing Angel_of_Doom
[15:24] <Angel_of_Doom> xD
[15:24] <Angel_of_Doom> ok bro
[15:24] <Jucato> !language | Angel_of_Doom
[15:24] <Angel_of_Doom> thanx i am jut serching for some serbinans to help me
[15:24] <Angel_of_Doom> xD
[15:24] <lunaris> Here is some from Montenegro Angel_of_Doom
[15:24] <lunaris> :)
[15:24] <Angel_of_Doom> jea
[15:24] <Angel_of_Doom> xD
[15:25] <rickey> thats what i got after i ran the command given
[15:25] <Angel_of_Doom> dez crnogorac
[15:25] <Angel_of_Doom> xD
[15:25] <genii> ocs: I'm not aware of any script thats already been done for that.
[15:25] <rickey> maybe i should just reinstall it all over again
[15:26] <tony_> can someone tell me why i get this error with a deb package? dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[15:26] <tony_> i'm currently upgrading but it's a 700mb upgrade, is it because of that?
[15:26] <Pici> tony_: yes
[15:26] <genii> rickey: Let your automatic updates finish. It keeps restarting is what I think is going on.
[15:26] <Pici> tony_: You can't run 2 package managers at the same time
[15:26] <Jucato> rickey: did you run the commands the bot gave you?
[15:27] <rickey> but i cant use the kubuntu in any way
[15:27] <tony_> sucks. so for 8 hours i apparently can't install anything. they need to change it somehow
[15:27] <rickey>  i cant load anything out of add programs
[15:27] <rickey> yes
[15:28] <rickey>  manytimes
[15:28] <genii> tony_: You can't install or remove things while updates are going on since it wants to use the same backend and database.
[15:28] <rickey> it isnt updateing at all
[15:28] <genii> rickey: See what I just told tony_
[15:28] <tony_> can i install the .deb file with something else successfully?
[15:29] <rickey> in my case it,s not updateing at all
[15:29] <rickey> i wish it would
[15:29] <rickey>  but it wont
[15:30] <tony_> or is there any way to extract the deb to a folder and just run it like that?
[15:30] <rickey> maaybe the severs are down
[15:31] <genii> rickey: Also if you did the thing about killing the apt process which the bot recommended, the updater might now be running detached from terminal and in a problemmatic state. Does command: ps ax|grep adept          show something?
[15:31] <Pici> tony_: If its just downloading the updates, you can cancel and install your .deb and then continue again.  If its within the actual update steps, you have to wait.
[15:31] <genii> tony_: You can't install or remove any debs or so while updating is progressing. It all uses the same backend and database
[15:33] <tony_> Pici, thanks, i'll just wait. i was wondering as well if it would resume updating where it left off if it crashed somehow because i'm using kde4 which is kind of unstable
[15:34] <rickey> this is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/29609/
[15:37] <genii> rickey: OK. That is just the notifier which does not by itself make use of the database or such. PErhaps pastebin entire results of just:   ps ax
[15:37] <genii> Work, AFK
[15:37] <rickey> ok
[15:45] <genii> back
[15:56] <FrauHansen> can i change the outcome of the keystrokes [Alt]+e to the "element of" sign?
[15:59] <FrauHansen> i mean, can i produce a custom ascii-sign by using/changing a key combination (shortcut)?
[16:01] <rav> FrauHansen: you can create custom key combos for many things in kde settings
[16:02] <rav> FrauHansen: i've never done it, but i think you can customize your keyboard layout in the Locale settings
[16:03] <FrauHansen> rav: i need the left of these two signs http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/b/2/db20db2c47bc23d4b314026ed2ea0edc.png on [alt]+'e'
[16:03] <FrauHansen> rav can that be done?
[16:04] <pag> FrauHansen, you always can create your custom keyboard layout (no idea how to do it though, but shouldn't be too hard)
[16:04] <FrauHansen> ok i'll google...
[16:06] <rav> i haven't tried, i usually just use a symbol picker from openoffice, or i use latex
[16:06] <reagleBRKLN> is it possible to get Konqi's "header" to print at the bottom of the page rather than top?
[16:06] <francesco_> salve a tutti
[16:07] <francesco_> e' in italiano?
[16:07] <Jucato> !it | francesco_
[16:07] <francesco_> ok?
[16:07] <francesco_> hi..
[16:08] <francesco_> i have a little problem to solve?
[16:09] <francesco_> if it possible install firefox 3 on kubunto 7.04?
[16:09] <genii> francesco_: Not through the package manager
[16:09] <francesco_> ahh..
[16:09] <genii> francesco_: Firefox-3.0 package has not been ported back to 7.10 or 7.04
[16:09] <rav> FrauHansen: maybe you can find an already existing layout with the symbol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout
[16:09] <francesco_> and what i have to do? existe a file.deb?
[16:10] <genii> francesco_: There may exist a deb for it, but I do not know where it might be found.
[16:10] <francesco_> ok
[16:11] <francesco_> it's the same for the latest kernell?
[16:11] <francesco_> i try to explane better..
[16:12] <francesco_> i passad from 9.04 to 7.04 because i have not memory enoght
[16:12] <francesco_> sorry 8.04
[16:13] <genii> francesco_: I understand.
[16:14] <francesco_> and i see a old version of gimp, firefox, open office and so on
[16:15] <Pici> Ubuntu is not a rolling release distro.  Each release is pretty much set on the package versions that were released for it.
[16:15] <francesco_> that i can't upgrade, i think now
[16:15] <francesco_> ok
[16:15] <genii> francesco_: You can use the way here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html for firefox-3 onto 7.10 and 7.04 (it is about Gnome and not KDE but most is command line anyhow)
[16:16] <genii> francesco_: That is about the only way if you are dedicated to having it on 7.04 :)
[16:16] <francesco_> yes but 7.10 wants more ram that i can
[16:16] <genii> francesco_: The way there works for 7.04 also
[16:17] <Pici> francesco_: How much ram do you have?
[16:17] <francesco_> 256 mbyte
[16:17] <faileas> er
[16:17] <abwhostw> ok any one help me with this problem
[16:17] <faileas> thats enough for 7.10
[16:17] <abwhostw> Not Found
[16:17] <abwhostw> The requested URL /~abwhostw was not found on this server.
[16:17] <abwhostw> Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at localhost Port 80
[16:17] <francesco_> and 1giga processor
[16:18] <genii> francesco_: Instead of the beta5 version they speak of there, download instead the newest from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.0.1&os=linux&lang=en-US         (or for the language you want by navigating from main page at mozilla)
[16:18] <rav> abwhostw: are you trying to use user's local apache directories?
[16:19] <abwhostw> yeah
[16:19] <francesco_> ok i'll try
[16:19] <genii> abwhostw: Do you have a directory called public_html in your home directory?
[16:19] <rav> abwhostw: i used to have that on debian. when i switched to kubuntu, apache was configured different so i just put everything on /var/www/
[16:19] <abwhostw> yeah
[16:21] <francesco_> but i'll have problem whit flash?
[16:21] <genii> francesco_: Probably, yes
[16:21] <abwhostw> ok than
[16:21] <genii> abwhostw: Is there any contents in the directory public_html ?
[16:21] <abwhostw> no
[16:22] <francesco_> ok it's better stay whit 2.ecc
[16:22] <ThomasD> can anyone tell me where I can find the 'middle mouse button copy/paste action' configuration?
[16:22] <francesco_> many thanks genij
[16:22] <ThomasD> because suddenly it stopped working
[16:23] <abwhostw> so where is the preoblem
[16:24] <genii> abwhostw: Make a file with 3 lines:   <?php                   then: phpinfo();       then: ?>                    and call it index.php and put it in public_html folder. Then do: chmod +rx index.php to the file. Then try again to the URL of ~yourname
[16:24] <abwhostw> ok
[16:24] <genii> francesco_: You're welcome
[16:26] <Malatesta> hi all
[16:26] <francesco_> hi
[16:26] <Malatesta> guys, i'm using kubuntu 8.04 and i'm experiencing freezes with firefox3
[16:27] <Malatesta> they are systematic
[16:27] <Malatesta> after a short time, firefox takes 100% of cpu
[16:27] <Malatesta> anyone have the same problem?
[16:27] <francesco_> in my experience no
[16:28] <rav> Malatesta: i had some problems with ff3 conflicting with libbonoboui2. try uninstalling libbonoboui2
[16:28] <Malatesta> are you using nonfree flash? whitch version?
[16:28] <genii> Malatesta: Is it always on same webpage?
[16:28] <Malatesta> genii: no, different pages
[16:29] <Malatesta>  i also tried using firefox3 tar.gz from the official site
[16:29] <Malatesta> same problem
[16:29] <Malatesta> maybe is the flashplugin?
[16:30] <abwhostw> after what I do
[16:30] <abwhostw>  * Reloading web server config apache2                                   [ OK ]
[16:30] <genii> Malatesta: Probably. Sometimes if I have many tabs open with flash on each it makes the  box start to crawl
[16:31] <Malatesta> with beta10 version, same problem
[16:31] <Malatesta> seems that the nonfree flashplugin is not so good...
[16:31] <francesco_> have you try whit konqueror?
[16:31] <genii> abwhostw: You did not require restart of apache2. But it is OK. Are you able now to acquire url of /~abwhostw/index.php       and see the php configurations?
[16:32] <Malatesta> francesco_: si, konqueror do not freeze
[16:32] <Malatesta> and firefox2 too
[16:32] <abwhostw> no
[16:32] <Malatesta> the only freezing browser is ff3
[16:33] <rav> Malatesta: try uninstalling libbonoboui2, it gave me problems with ff3
[16:33] <francesco_> malatesta are you it?
[16:33] <Malatesta> francesco_: SI
[16:33] <Malatesta> sorry caps
[16:33] <Malatesta> rav: i try
[16:34] <rav> genii: to enable modules in apache you just have to move it from modules-available to modules-enabled, correct?
[16:39] <genii> rav: No, just symlink from /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ to actual  /etc/apache2/mods-available/<modulenameyouwanttoenable>
[16:39] <sbucat> hello anyone knows how to report a bug with gdb ? i can't move nothig after i have run that
[16:39] <genii> Both .conf and .load files if they exist
[16:40] <rav> genii: thanks
[16:40] <genii> rav: np
[16:40] <sbucat> genii: for bug where could i go ?
[16:41] <sbucat> i mean irc
[16:41] <sbucat> channel
[16:41] <genii> abwhostw: Do files /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf        and     /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.load exist ?
[16:41] <genii> sbucat: Better instead to look on bugs section of Launchpad for it
[16:41] <sbucat> genii: i am from it
[16:42] <Malatesta> rav: seems that now all works well
[16:43] <rav> Malatesta: good :)
[16:44] <sbucat> genii: i was looking here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/229694
[16:44] <abwhostw> c-su: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf: Permission denied
[16:44] <rav> abwhostw and genii: i think those modules are not loaded by default in ubuntu
[16:44] <sbucat> genii: but gdb doesn't work in my machine
[16:44] <sbucat> i don't why
[16:44] <abwhostw> so what can I do to load
[16:45] <abwhostw> I loaded in Kubuntu
[16:45] <genii> abwhostw: Don't try to run the file. Apache just uses it only. Do they just exist there or not?:
[16:45] <abwhostw> no
[16:45] <abwhostw> is not working
[16:47] <genii> abwhostw: sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf  /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf; sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.load  /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.load
[16:48] <genii> abwhostw: Then restart apache2 and attempt /~yourname/index.php           once more
[16:52] <genii> abwhostw: You are putting as URL something like:   http://127.0.0.1/~abwhostw         or just    /~abwhostw         ?
[16:54] <abwhostw> i know but same pro
[16:54] <abwhostw> Not Found
[16:54] <abwhostw> The requested URL /~abwhostw was not found on this server.
[16:54] <abwhostw> Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.2 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
[16:55] <genii> abwhostw: What is exact url everything included you are putting in address bar of browser? Does it have some other part besides /~abwhostw        or not?
[16:55] <genii> I think I'm gonna need more aspirins here
[16:55] <abwhostw> no
[16:55] <abwhostw> http://127.0.0.1/~abwhostw
[16:56] <abwhostw> jute likst athat
[16:56] <Malatesta> thanks for the tips guys, have a nice day
[16:56] <Malatesta> goodbye
[16:57] <rav> abwhostw: can you pastebin the result of 'ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled' ?
[16:58] <abwhostw> bash: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled: is a directory
[16:58] <abwhostw> ruslt
[16:58] <icelab> hi
[16:59] <rav> abwhostw: can you pastebin the result of 'ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/' with the slash at the end? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[16:59] <icelab> can i customize the icon on kde dsktop?
[17:00] <icelab> sorry
[17:00] <rav> icelab: System Settings > Appearance
[17:00] <icelab> can i customize the size icon on kde desktop
[17:00] <abwhostw> ok done
[17:00] <rav> abwhostw: what's the url of the post?
[17:01] <icelab> ok raw just do it :-))))
[17:02] <abwhostw> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29634/
[17:03] <icelab> and to stay them closed?
[17:03] <rav> abwhostw: try 'ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/' with the slash at the end, and post the result please
[17:04] <rav> icelab: what do you mean?
[17:05] <icelab> the distance between their is too much
[17:05] <abwhostw> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29639/
[17:05] <icelab> sorry
[17:05] <rav> icelab: on the desktop? right click on the background and click Configure
[17:06] <rav> abwhostw: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'
[17:07] <abwhostw> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[17:07] <abwhostw>  * Restarting web server apache2
[17:08] <abwhostw> than what after
[17:08] <rav> now in your browser go to 'localhost/~abwhostw'
[17:08]  * tictric hands out valium
[17:09] <genii> abwhostw: What is result of command:   cat /etc/apache2/ports.conf | grep Listen
[17:09] <abwhostw> An error occurred while loading http://localhost:
[17:09] <abwhostw> Could not connect to host localhost.
[17:09] <rav> i think his httpd.conf has the public_html line commented out
[17:10] <genii> For the nitpickers I know it could be grep Listen /etc/apache2/ports.conf      incidentally
[17:10] <abwhostw> root@ubuntu:~# cat /etc/apache2/ports.conf | grep Listen
[17:10] <abwhostw> Listen 80
[17:10] <abwhostw>     Listen 44
[17:10] <icelab> sorry raw is not enoght..
[17:11] <genii> rav: httpd.conf should not contain anything actually in Apache 2 versions
[17:11] <tictric> abwhostw, please type command: ps ax | grep apache
[17:12] <tictric> if your config isn't working, apache won't even start
[17:12] <abwhostw> root@ubuntu:~# ps ax | grep apache
[17:12] <abwhostw>  8479 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep apache
[17:12] <tictric> but will not tell you so either
[17:12] <tictric> so apache is not running
[17:12] <rav> genii: i have it, with some directives about userdir and some commented out about php4 and some about php5
[17:13] <tictric> your site configuration is broken abwhostw
[17:13] <abwhostw> can we fixed
[17:13] <tictric> I suggest you got to an apache channel
[17:14] <tictric> abwhostw, go to #apache
[17:15] <genii> rav: All that stuff used to be in httpd.conf for apache1.3x is now either in apache2.conf or else in /etc/apache2/sites-enables/000-default now
[17:16] <genii> krazy-h: I do not assist in private message, only in public channel
[17:17] <krazy-h> O
[17:17] <krazy-h> K
[17:17] <krazy-h> but i need help
[17:18] <slow-motion> hi
[17:19] <genii> krazy-h: The usual procedure: State your problem to the room and see if anyone takes it up
[17:19] <krazy-h> OK
[17:20] <krazy-h> So i want to have acces to other computer in the home via terminal
[17:20] <krazy-h> "to their hard drive, the c$)
[17:23] <genii> krazy-h: Over local LAN in same house just browse to the IP of the computer in Dolphin or Konqueror with smb:/xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx       for instance. The other computer needs to have been setup to share in Windows of course. The c$ share is a special share which needs what is called a machine account
[17:24] <genii> krazy-h: If this is to be over internet then into the house then to the box it becomes exponentially more convoluted
[17:25] <krazy-h> Yeah i see
[17:25] <krazy-h> But it's in the house
[17:25] <krazy-h> in the same home
[17:26] <genii> krazy-h: Then as I stated, to use url of smb:/ip-of-windows-machine           What you see there depends from there on how the Windows end is setup and not the linux end
[17:31] <krazy-h> OK
[17:33] <chrisinajar> Ok, so in KDE 3.5 running Kubuntu Hardy, when a user logs in a bunch of directories are created in their home directory... Stuff like "Music" and "Pictures"... How can I disable it from doing that.
[17:37] <genii> chrisinajar: It's set in /home/theirname/.config/user-dirs           for instance. There are also a set number of stock dirs that get created from commandline adduser/userad commands which are in someplace like /etc/skel
[17:38] <genii> user-dirs.dirs the name, typo
[17:39] <KomiaPoika> hi
[17:39] <chrisinajar> thanks, genii
[17:40] <genii> chrisinajar: You're welcome
[17:40] <KomiaPoika> theoric question: if i boot my system with crypto fs, enter passphrase and login. then i lock the screen. an attacker intrudes physically in the room, pulls the power chord and unmounts the hard drive to steal it. will he be able to read the plainfiles from another machine? or will he need to know my passphrase to remount the hard drive?
[17:41] <genii> Needs passphrase reagardless
[17:41] <werner12> hi
[17:41] <genii> !hi
[17:41] <chrisinajar> genii: what creates the .config/user-dirs.dirs, it's not in skel but is in all the home directories...
[17:42] <drif> how do I send ctrl+alt+del via RDP under kubuntu?
[17:42] <chrisinajar> try pressing F8
[17:42] <KomiaPoika> genii: so the system doesn't "write" the open state of the hard drive it's just a memory thing?
[17:42] <chrisinajar> or ctrl+alt+insert
[17:42] <genii> chrisinajar: Some subsystem of either the KDE or Gnome default settings for all users, but where exactly you'd have to dig to find out
[17:43] <chrisinajar> genii: well, it's a kubuntu specific thing, this doesn't exist in vanilla kde...
[17:43] <chrisinajar> genii: i could probably put a blank one in the skel.... that might work...
[17:43] <genii> KomiaPoika: It will have some indication shutdown was not properly done but then it will just in that case want to fsck the drive or so on
[17:44] <drif> chrisinajar: F8? neither reacts
[17:44] <drif> chrisinajar: I'm using virtualbox via VMHeadless - forgot to mention
[17:45] <genii> chrisinajar: I think if you put one in there, then when kde is started it will just populate the empty one that got created
[17:45] <chrisinajar> drif: F8 usually brings up a menu in rdp programs...
[17:45] <chrisinajar> genii: yeah that's what i think might happen... it's a matter of, when creating a user... does skel take effect first, or does kubuntu, and if kubuntu comes first, does it respect skel...
[17:46] <genii> chrisinajar: skel definitely takes effect first
[17:46] <tictric> chrisinajar, look here http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs
[17:46] <drif> chrisinajar: well apparently not in krdc
[17:46] <genii> chrisinajar: Gimme some time, trying to find out what exactly makes that file list
[17:46] <drif> chrisinajar: got suggestions?
[17:47] <drif> for another client
[17:48] <genii> chrisinajar: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs explains it fairly well :)
[17:48] <chrisinajar> genii: /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults is what I'm looking for :)
[17:48] <chrisinajar> thanks again!
[17:49] <genii> chrisinajar: You're welcome
[17:49] <tictric> very well even
[17:49] <genii> !helpersnack | tictric
[17:49] <tictric> aahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[17:50] <tictric> it should read: you get a cookie
[17:51] <tictric> genii, but you'll get one too :)
[17:56] <chack-6> salut tout le monde
[17:56] <ahmed> i want to listen to radio streaming online what is programs i need for that
[17:56] <chack-6> je cherche un outil pour controler la bande passante de mon reseaux locale
[17:57] <chack-6> quelqun connet un outil pour faire ça
[17:58] <tictric> !fr | chack-6
[17:59]  * genii munches his cookie
[17:59] <ahmed> i want to listen to radio streaming online what is programs i need for that i use firefox for it but it says plugin needed
[18:00] <nafion> ahmed: amarok?
[18:01] <ahmed> nafion: it says unknown plugin (video/x-ms-asf)
[18:03]  * tictric gives genii another one
[18:03]  * genii hands tictric a coffee
[18:03] <nafion> ahmed: i havent messed around with radio streaming much but i would say to try apt installing 'mozilla-plugin-vlc' or something like that...
[18:04] <ahmed> nafion:i'll try this now and tell u ok
[18:06] <ahmed> i have another quiestion i just added new ide hard but icannt see it in storage media to mount it
[18:08] <genii> ahmed: Is it partitioned yet?
[18:08] <becker_11> I'm reading a tutorial on installing linux from a usb stick and it mentions the kernel module (modprobe usb-storage) I've checked  Adept and came up empty handed Can someone point me in the right direction pls
[18:08] <ahmed> its allready parttioned and have data
[18:09] <ahmed> genii: its allready parttioned and have data
[18:10] <genii> ahmed: Then likely the system can't automatically decide what filesystem it is or options to use when mounting it.
[18:13] <ahmed> genii:then how i mount it ?>?
[18:13] <genii> ahmed: If it's something like NTFS or HFS then you're best to make a specific entry with the options you require in the /etc/fstab file
[18:15] <ahmed> ahmed:it is ntfs
[18:15] <ahmed> genii:it is ntfs
[18:17] <ahmed> genii:how i know the right entry
[18:17] <genii> ahmed: Please report result of command:   sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS
[18:17] <genii> ahmed: This will let us know what disk device name to use
[18:18] <ahmed> /dev/sda1   *           1         644     5172898+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:18] <ahmed> /dev/sda5             645        8327    61713666    7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:18] <ahmed> /dev/sda6            8328        9022     5582556    7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:18] <ahmed> /dev/sdb1   *           1         634     5092573+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:18] <ahmed> /dev/sdb4            4317        4865     4409842+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:18] <ahmed> /dev/sdb5             635        4190    28563538+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[18:19] <genii> Hmm
[18:19] <genii> ahmed: Please use pastebin when results are more than 2  lines :)
[18:19] <genii> !pastebin
[18:20] <abir> hi, i am a linux newbie
[18:20] <genii> ahmed: Please now use the pastebin to show contents of the current file /etc/fstab
[18:20] <ahmed> genii:sorry i dont know how to paste bin
[18:20] <abir> i am having trouble with screen resolution
[18:20] <abir> in kubuntu 8.04
[18:20] <abir> can anyone help me ?:)
[18:20] <genii> ahmed: Thats OK, it's just good not to flood channel when possible
[18:21] <ahmed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29653/
[18:22] <abir> hello, nobody here to help ?:(
[18:22] <genii> ahmed: Thanks but that is the previous info we have already.   Put into pastebin results of command:    cat /etc/fstab
[18:23] <genii> abir: The best thing is to keep asking perhaps every ten minutes. More detail of what type video card might also be helpful
[18:23] <ahmed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29655/
[18:24] <abir> thanks
[18:24] <abir> i have intel 945 on - board card
[18:25] <carib909> I need help from an  ubuntu guru please
[18:25] <genii> ahmed: Good :) That helps enormously. Do you have any particular names you want to see the mount names as?
[18:25] <genii> !ask carib909
[18:25] <genii> !ask | carib909
[18:25] <becker_11> I'm reading a tutorial on installing linux from a usb stick and it mentions the kernel module (modprobe usb-storage) I've checked  Adept and came up empty handed Can someone point me in the right direction pls
[18:25] <abir> I tried to change my resolution by this way :
[18:25] <abir> system settings -> monitor & display
[18:26] <abir> then clicked administration mode
[18:26] <abir> and typed password
[18:26] <carib909> I have an error in my etc/samba/smb.conf file and I cannot sudo kate to correct tit. Will not let me save. Apt and synaptic cannot identify the host and I can no longer browse hard drives.
[18:26] <abir> but selecting resolution 1024 * 768 gives me a message
[18:26] <abir> whether i want to keep settings
[18:26] <abir> i click keep
[18:26] <abir> but nothing changes
[18:27] <ahmed> genii:no just want to mount the partitions
[18:27] <abir> instead when i restart, the resolution becomes 640*480 :(
[18:28] <carib909> :CORRECTION I have an error in my etc/samba/smb.conf file and I cannot sudo kate to correct tit. Will not let me save. Adept, or synaptic manager  and synaptic cannot identify the host when run from shell, they won't start up in gui and I can no longer browse hard drives.
[18:29] <genii> abir: I do not give assistance in private message, only public channel
[18:29] <genii> ahmed: Apologies on lag, my workplace required me
[18:29] <abir> ok,
[18:29] <abir> public then:)
[18:29] <ahmed> genii: nevermind r u leave now??
[18:29] <abir> please tell me if any more info is needed
[18:30] <carib909> genil can u help me?
[18:33] <carib909> is anyone here? Is this still working? I am running Kubuntu nothing is moving, not sure if it is the irc chan or OS?
[18:33] <abir> yes i am here
[18:34] <genii> ahmed: No, I'm not leaving anytime soon. But I'm at work and must go away from the computer when they call me to do something .So then in this case we can do something like:  sudo mkdir /media/disk2-1; sudo mkdir /media/disk2-1; sudo mkdir /media/disk2-2; sudo mkdir /media/disk2-3    for the mountpoints.
[18:34] <genii> ahmed: I will provide some lines in pastebin address to add to your /etc /fstab, just be patient
[18:34] <ahmed> ok take ur time
[18:35] <genii> carib909: You are doing: alt-f2  kdesu kate /etc/samba/smb.conf        ?
[18:36] <carib909> Not alt F2 but at a shell I am doing sudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf   and I get an error that directory not found.
[18:37] <carib909> Even if I go to that directory and issue the sudo kate command error says can't find host
[18:38] <carib909> Strangest thing is I set up home folder on separate partition, now I cannot browse that patition or other hard drives.
[18:41] <carib909> genil how do I get to the location to paste output ad get a shortcut to ?
[18:42] <genii> carib909: Incidentally never ever run gui applications with sudo. Only kdesu/kdesudo in KDE and gksu/gksudo in Gnome. You will need now to recursively chown all the hidden directories in your home directory
[18:42] <genii> ahmed: Still working on that for you, don't despair :)
[18:42] <carib909> what does that mean? How to do that?
[18:43] <carib909> Here is the output...
[18:43] <carib909> How do I paste output to avoid flooding?
[18:44] <artur_> Hi folks.  I'd like that a command was executed in every boot. I forgot in what file i have to write this command. What's is this file?
[18:45] <genii> !paste | chttp://paste.ubuntu.com/29661/riba
[18:45] <genii> bah
[18:45] <genii> !paste | carib909
[18:46] <genii> ahmed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29661/    Add these lines into /etc/fstab       Use the way I told previously:   alt-f2    kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[18:47] <genii> ahmed: Then if you issue command:   sudo mount -a               you should see the 3 new partitions in there after in /media as dirs disk2-1 disk2-2 and disk2-3
[18:49] <carib909> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29664/ is the result of my attempt to edit with kate
[18:49] <kblin> hi folks
[18:49] <carib909> thanks for the paste command guys..
[18:50] <genii> carib909: The first part of your problem and the most serious is that the file /etc/sudoers is very messed up. This will prevent a very many things from evern operating correctly.
[18:51] <genii> carib909: The samba problem is nothing compared to that sudoers issue
[18:52] <genii> carib909: You need to boot to livecd to repair this issue first before other issues can even begin to be addressed
[18:52] <kaki> toy en la euskal 16
[18:53] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all
[18:54] <carib909> Ok after booting to live cd then what should I do?
[18:54] <MetaMorfoziS> I'm from a kubuntu that runs on my pendrive over an encrypted lvm. My question is, that how can i speed it up?
[18:54] <MetaMorfoziS> Is there anybody who uses it like me? What tricks exists?
[18:54] <MetaMorfoziS> The bottleneck is the disk operations
[18:55] <carib909> Thanks genil: When I boot to LiveCD will I have a repair option?
[18:57] <ahmed> genii: thanks man it worked u r the best man
[18:58] <genii> carib909: No. Just boot up then use konversation or another irc client to return here for futher instruction. This is very serious problem
[18:58] <genii> ahmed: You're welcome
[19:00] <genii> MetaMorfoziS: encryption severely slows any system down, and i can imagine it's painful from a pendrive. I'm not aware of any speedup tricks. You *may* want to try mount option of  sync for the fstab entry of your /
[19:00] <erbiondo> ciao
[19:01] <erbiondo> mi potete aiutare
[19:01] <erbiondo> ??
[19:01] <genii> !it | erbiondo
[19:02] <carib909> Will I be able to start Konversation while I am booting from LiveCD?
[19:06] <MetaMorfoziS> genii > no it's not really slower than if it will be unencrypted
[19:06] <MetaMorfoziS> the encryption speed depends on the cpu
[19:06] <MetaMorfoziS> that i has
[19:06] <MetaMorfoziS> so i meant other tweaks
[19:06] <MetaMorfoziS> for example the writeback time etc
[19:08] <genii> carib909: Normally the livecd can do anything a regular installed distribution can
[19:09] <_CrashMaster_> albeit slower.
[19:09] <genii> Apologies on lag, I am after all needed by my workplace occasionally between assisting here
[19:09] <_CrashMaster_> What's more important? Us, or your job?
[19:09] <_CrashMaster_> Priorities man!
[19:10] <genii> MetaMorfoziS: The sync option is fairly important for removable drives, it immediately writes info to it instead of caching it
[19:10] <MetaMorfoziS> sync option where? in fstab?
[19:10] <genii> _CrashMaster_: If I lose my job I won't be here much at all
[19:10] <genii> MetaMorfoziS: Yes
[19:10] <MetaMorfoziS> and i need it or i need to avoid that?
[19:11] <genii> MetaMorfoziS: Since a pendrive, preferred to have it.
[19:11] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, i try it
[19:11] <genii> MetaMorfoziS: If you have "defaults" there as an option they conflict with each other so remove the "defaults" one if you put sync as an option
[19:12] <MetaMorfoziS> now i has: /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt /               ext2    noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro,sync 0       1
[19:12] <MetaMorfoziS> have*
[19:12] <genii> MetaMorfoziS: Then it's already there
[19:12] <MetaMorfoziS> because i added that:)
[19:12] <keepout> hi
[19:13] <keepout> hi
[19:13] <keepout> hi
[19:13] <genii> MetaMorfoziS: Ah, OK :)       sudo mount -o remount /                 should make it take effect
[19:13] <genii> !hi | keepout
[19:14] <keepout> hello genii
[19:14] <genii> carib909: If you can use internet from livecd you can use it to return here
[19:14] <keepout> ubottu hello
[19:15] <genii> keepout: ubottu is an automated system to help us occasionally and not a real person :)
[19:15] <keepout> oh
[19:15] <keepout> ok
[19:15] <keepout> im nw
[19:16] <genii> keepout: If you have some technical support question please ask it all on one line so that someone may assist you. If you do not have a problem, perhaps #kubuntu-offtopic is a better channel for just talking
[19:17] <keepout> ok tancks
[19:19] <artur_> Does anyone could tell me the name of the file that i should write commands that i want to be executed when the linux starts?
[19:25] <genii> artur_: Programs to run when window manager begins, or scripts that require to be run?
[19:27] <artur_> genii: i mean before any window manager starts. I don't remember...bashrc...inittab, something like this..
[19:27]  * genii takes this momentary lull in conversation to grab another mug of coffee
[19:29] <rav> hello. what is the device for built-in modems in /dev ?
[19:33] <genii> artur_: There are 2 ways. One is to put it in /etc/rc.local    and another (proper) is to make a startup script which goes into /etc/init.d   and then uses update-rc.d to specify what runlevels it should start or shut down at
[19:35] <genii> rav: For serial types normally /dev/ttyS0 thru /dev/ttyS3
[19:36] <genii> rav: If winmodem kind then could be any different number of possible names however
[19:36] <rav> genii: i don't see in lspci
[19:37] <erbiondo> ciao
[19:37] <erbiondo> chi mi aiuto
[19:37] <erbiondo> ??
[19:37] <genii> rav: If internal and not showing in lspci   try then lsusb. If not listed there then likely IS on pci bus but whats called controllerless type of winmodem
[19:37] <Pici> !it | erbiondo
[19:37] <genii> Pici: Thanks
[19:38] <genii> rav: There is a SmartLink type driver for those but it's been a while since I set one up
[19:38] <rav> genii: also not in lsusb, so I guess it's a winmodem
[19:39] <genii> rav: They are a huge pai in the arse to setup
[19:39] <genii> *pain
[19:40] <rav> genii: i never could get the one on my old laptop with debian to work
[19:40] <genii> rav: You might want to visit http://www.linmodems.org/     and do the scanmodem thing
[19:41] <rav> genii: thanks
[19:41] <genii> rav: You're welcome
[19:43] <joanna> hi i have the following wireless card
[19:43] <joanna> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter
[19:44] <joanna> it is apparently installed but i cant get a connection
[19:44] <joanna> what is there to do
[19:45] <New_Bember> hi2all
[19:45] <New_Bember> any russians here?
[19:46] <New_Bember> !channels
[19:46] <New_Bember> !channel
[19:46] <New_Bember> !list
[19:46] <New_Bember> !help
[19:46] <bob3213243> Is there a way to copy a ubuntu install image and format a harddrive and then use the copy of ubuntu so I don't have to do all of my setups and installs again?
[19:47] <New_Bember> hehe
[19:47] <genii> joanna: Does the machine have a lso a wired connection it can use for now? You likely need to install wpasupplicant
[19:47] <New_Bember> bob, I think Acronis true Image can help you
[19:47] <joanna> aha
[19:48] <joanna> via apt-get install??
[19:48] <genii> joanna: Yes,(with sudo of course) or else through Add/Remove PRograms
[19:49] <joanna> genii:wpasupplicant is installed
[19:49] <New_Bember> hey, where I can find list of channels?
[19:49] <genii> !clone | bob3213243
[19:49] <aorkwa> New_Bember: type /list.
[19:50] <genii> bob3213243: You could also just use dd comand to image the drive to a file then use it again to restore it to different drive later
[19:51] <genii> joanna: Googling shows me this adapter should work out of box with (k)ubuntu and so it is likely a different issue than drivers or such
[19:53] <genii> joanna: For the regular network manager to be able to use it, there should be no entries in the file /etc/network/interfaces     file for it also
[19:53] <joanna> ok
[19:54] <genii> joanna: So if you had previously ran for instance iwconfig commands on it there may be some entry in that file regarding it
[19:54] <genii> (which should just be removed)
[19:55] <matahari> hey
[19:55] <matahari> i have a question on Kaffeine and DVB-T - is this the right channel for this?
[19:56] <genii> matahari: Probably :)
[19:57] <genii> I guess he couldn't formulate the exact question
[20:04] <L0we> hi all, is there any way to restore the vista bootloader from kubuntu?
[20:04] <L0we> i've google'd my *ss off, but I can't find anything like that...
[20:05] <genii> L0we: Impossible from inside of kubuntu to do
[20:06] <genii> L0we: If you have your Vista CD however they can tell you a way to do it in ##windows channel
[20:06] <L0we> genii: thanks, was afraid so...
[20:07] <L0we> that's the point, I know how to restore with the windows DVD, but i don't have it around, and I need my laptop
[20:07] <L0we> thanks anyway!
[20:07] <genii> L0we: You're welcome
[20:15] <ewomer> is there a safe way of installing kde4.1 from a xubuntu installation
[20:15] <genii> ewomer: They mau know in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:16] <ere4si> !kde4
[20:19] <L0we> this is cool: http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/
[20:19] <ewomer> i have it already
[20:19] <ewomer> it dosent have vista on it
[20:20] <nikhil> anyone frm india..........??
[20:20] <Sydero> no one from inidia is allowed to be on the internet
[20:20] <Sydero> india*
[20:21] <nikhil> really.......??
[20:21] <genii> !in
[20:21] <nikhil> did indians fuck u up in ur ass........??
[20:21] <genii> Only those guys
[20:21] <genii> Sydero: So much for sarcasm
[20:21] <posingaspopular> !language
[20:22] <nikhil> whoose family.........??
[20:22] <genii> Anyone's including those families from India
[20:23] <nikhil> k
[20:25] <genii> nikhil: Do not private message me. I only assist in public channel. Also you may have mistaken belief I am a female, which I am not.
[20:26] <nikhil> wow
[20:26] <nikhil> thats great'
[20:26] <Sydero> Was he coming on to you ;) ?
[20:26] <genii> Sydero: Yes.
[20:27] <scretch>  how can i install package.run pls???
[20:27] <Sydero> errr wgat
[20:27] <Sydero> package.run?
[20:27] <Sydero> what*
[20:28] <Sydero> never heard of it
[20:28] <Sydero> :(
[20:28] <genii> scretch: Normally something like:    sudo chmod +x package.run; ./package.run
[20:28] <scretch> why this twice? package.run; ./package.run
[20:29] <genii> scretch: The:   sudo chmod +x package.run              makes it executable. the   ;  is a command separator. The    ./package.run                  executes it
[20:29] <scretch> ok... thanks
[20:32] <Luffy> Hola
[20:32] <ewomer> i herd of package.jog
[20:34] <dave11> how do i adjust my log-in screen resolution?
[20:42] <genii> dave11: I'm not sure if this will work, but you could try.   Add a line called virtual with the resolution you want it to use in the xorg.conf file, somewhat like the example in post 4 here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=298189&highlight=kdm+resolution
[20:42] <dave11> genii,thanks
[20:43] <genii> dave11: You're welcome
[20:47] <dave11> my documents folder has a yellow exclamation point on it, what does that mean?
[20:50] <engineer> dave11 virus proly
[20:50] <dave11> huh?
[20:51] <dave11> in one of the documents?
[20:52] <harmental80> hey guys...a friend of mine have accidentaly "unformated" his usb drive while using Windows....now I have the opportunity of bringing Linux up to the rescue....any ideas?
[20:52] <harmental80> how can I recover the files?
[20:54] <genii> harmental80: Incidentally it's bad form to ask the same question in multiple channels. If you have kubuntu ask here. If you have regular ubuntu, stick to #ubuntu
[20:54] <dave11> do i have a virus?
[20:56] <genii> dave11: Do you have some virus scanner installed on linux?
[20:56] <engineer> !ntfs
[20:56] <dave11> no, i have a yellow  exclamation point on my documents folder
[20:58] <dave11> genii: no i have a yellow exclamation point on my documents folder
[20:58] <simi> hi, i have this 2 entryes in my /etc/modules : fuse lp and i do not know if i need them, (i do not found anything about lp and about fuse it seams not critical_
[20:58] <genii> simi: You do need them both. Don't remove either one
[20:59] <genii> dave11: I would suspect it means you don't have full permissions in that folder for writing. But this is purely a guess on my part.
[20:59] <simi> genii: ok then, i will search  other ways to improve my boot speed
[21:00] <dave11> genii: no i am the only person on the computer
[21:02] <engineer> genesys_
[21:02] <engineer> genii
[21:02] <engineer> if i have a directory named "-"
[21:02] <engineer> how do i cd into it
[21:05] <genii> engineer: I'm not sure it's possible since - means previous. Doesn't work with single or double quoted
[21:06] <genii> engineer: If there is any answer I'm sure they'll know it in #bash however
[21:07] <engineer> genii cd ./-
[21:07] <theunixgeek> I think there should be a Kubuntu/SuSE merge: KuSE :D
[21:07] <genii> dave11: Have you imported any documents into the folder which may have permissions other than your own?
[21:07] <engineer> got the answer in bash :)
[21:07] <theunixgeek> that way, both debian and opensuse compatibility
[21:07] <genii> engineer: Nice :)
[21:08] <dave11>  genii, yeah i think so. a pdf airport diagram
[21:09] <dave11> genii: is that what that is for?
[21:09] <genii> dave11: Try: sudo chmod -R $(whoami):$(whoami) ~/Documents
[21:10] <dave11> genii: tells me invalid mode
[21:10] <genii> dave11: Wait, that won't work right with sudo
[21:11] <genii> Also other bad error
[21:11] <dave11> ?
[21:11] <theunixgeek> will the kde 4 spin later be updated to include 4.1 ?
[21:11] <theunixgeek> and if I update to 4.1 will I get the new window theme? :D
[21:11] <genii> dave11: chown -R $(whoami):$(whoami) ~/Documents
[21:12] <carib909> Ok I was getting serios sudoers errors and was told to boot onto a LiveCd and come back for instructions how to fix...
[21:12] <dave11> genii: just goes back to prompt
[21:12] <genii> dave11: Good then it was successful
[21:13] <dave11> genii: still have the exclamation point on the folder though
[21:13] <genii> dave11: Perhaps not next time, I think it's still cached in the window manager for current
[21:13] <dave11> genii: do i need to relog?
[21:14] <genii> carib909: What partition is the old / which your kubuntu was installed to?
[21:14] <genii> dave11: Try f5 first
[21:14] <genii> theunixgeek: Ask kde4 related stuff in #kubuntu-kde4 please
[21:15] <dave11> genii: no change
[21:15] <theunixgeek> ok
[21:15] <genii> dave11: OK. No other immediate ideas on it then
[21:15] <dave11> genii: ok thanks
[21:15] <carib909> it was an 87.5 gb Media partitionn. That's the name
[21:16] <genii> carib909: Please use pastebin to post results of command:     sudo fdisk -l
[21:16] <quentin> hello there
[21:16] <genii> !hi | quentin
[21:16] <quentin> ;)
[21:16] <quentin> Anyone using Netbeans with Ruby?
[21:16] <carib909> ok thanks
[21:17] <quentin> (the language)
[21:17]  * genii notices Dr_willis and hands him a coffee
[21:18] <Dr_willis> Eating Chili :)  I need a beer!
[21:18] <quentin> I can't make netbeans find out the libs... So no auto-completion available :'(. In that case I prefer to go back to Vi
[21:18] <Dr_willis> I got no netbeans.. :) i got chili beans
[21:19]  * BooVeMan_work thinks that netbeans sucks
[21:19] <quentin> lol
[21:19]  * BooVeMan_work ... big time
[21:19] <Dr_willis> !info netbeans
[21:19] <carib909> the result of the fdisk list is at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29711/
[21:20]  * genii swaps out Dr_willis' coffee for a beer and also hands him the Bean-O
[21:20] <dave11> can anyone tell me why i have a yellow triangle with a exclamation point in it in the documents icon in the system menu?
[21:20] <genii> carib909: OK, reading
[21:20] <Dr_willis> Wow look at all the swap partitions carib909  has.
[21:21] <carib909> How can I remove all the other installations and free up that disk space?
[21:21] <quentin> Anyway, Netbeans is awesome for JavaME programming and I'd like to use a single IDE for all of my projects. + eclipse doesn't support Ruby Language...
[21:21] <quentin> (Not trolling ;) )
[21:22] <simi> genii: can you help me to understend this bootchart?
[21:22] <Dr_willis> other installations of what?  delete the partitiosn for the os's you dont use perhaps?  You could let differnt disrto/installs share the same swap partition.  Unless you use hibernate/suspend
[21:23] <genii> carib909: First worry about getting the current system working properly. Then think possibly about removing other installations. The paste is not very enlightening as to what of the 4 possible partitions could have been your original /  so we will try the most likely and see.
[21:23] <carib909> I installed Ubuntu numerous times. Somehow they still show up in the selection list when I restart. I wanted to delete those partitions when I started over but they still show up.
[21:23] <genii> carib909: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt                        then please pastebin result of: ls -l /mnt
[21:24] <carib909> I think the original is sda1 ID 83 Linux
[21:24] <Dr_willis> the 'selection' list is from the grub menu.lst file. If you have truely deleted the other installs. Youc an just edit the menu.lst and remove the extra entries
[21:25] <dave11> i stumpted them all...:)
[21:26] <marinosi> hello..Is have kubuntu hardy with kde4 ..Is there any guid on how to enable compiz fusion?
[21:26] <carib909> Here is the result after mounting sda1 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29713/
[21:26] <Dr_willis> KDE4 has its own eyecandy. and I dident think it needed compiz
[21:27] <genii> simi: Probably not
[21:28] <genii> carib909: Good, thats it
[21:28] <BooVeMan_work> quentin: ever heard of rubyeclipse.sourceforge.net
[21:28] <simi> genii: some proceses appear muliple time e.g. rc and i do not understend
[21:28]  * BooVeMan_work still thinks netbeans suck
[21:28] <carib909> This is great guy, thanks for helping me...
[21:29] <genii> carib909: sudo mv /mnt/etc/sudoers /mnt/etc/sudoers.old
[21:30] <carib909> genii i did it
[21:30] <Smeagol86> moin
[21:31] <carib909> genii what is that /mnt?
[21:32] <quentin> BooVeMan_work:  not until now :)
[21:33] <housepc> paidia oloi apo ellada
[21:33] <housepc> ???
[21:33] <genii> carib909: Then  sudo nano /mnt/etc/sudoers         and copy and paste the contents of pastebin into it then save the file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/
[21:34] <quentin> My problem should be easy to Fix. Netbeans is looking for libs in /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/ but forget to look recursively in .../1.8/ folders...
[21:34] <BooVeMan_work> quentin: ever trying to get folks from the dark side to the eclipse force
[21:34] <genii> carib909: You came back very late at end of my workday when i have 20-25 minutes before leaving so expect some lag
[21:34] <BooVeMan_work> quentin: linking the folder?
[21:35] <genii> carib909: You exit nano by ctrl-x    then choose Y to save, Enter not to change name
[21:35] <quentin> BooVeMan_work: lol, I don't understand why some people hate Netbeans..
[21:35] <quentin> BooVeMan_work: ?
[21:35] <BooVeMan_work> quentin: don't quite get where netbeans does nlook and where it should...
[21:36] <BooVeMan_work> quentin: because its slow bloated and not productive (my point of view)
[21:36] <genii> carib909: After file is saved:   sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers
[21:37] <carib909> thanks genii I had to D/l livecd
[21:37] <carib909> should I do cntrl-x now?
[21:38] <genii> carib909: You pasted the new sudoers contents into the nano program? If so then yes to exit it, then Y to save and Enter to confirm the save name
[21:38] <carib909> should i do cntrl-x in terminal?
[21:38] <marinosi> hi again..Kubuntu by default found my intel 3945 wifi nic and loaded iwl3945 for it.But although it works fine the wifi led does not work at all..Any ideas?
[21:39] <quentin> BooveMan_work: I've been working for some time with Netbeans and I agree that Netbeans is a bit "strange" something but since the 6.0 release I consider it as a good editor
[21:40] <genii> carib909: Did that bring you back to regular command prompt? If so then do the other command
[21:40] <quentin> BooveMan_work: And since I have to work with it for my JavaME projects...
[21:41] <genii> Dr_willis: I'm thinking it would be nice to have opposite of pastebinit.
[21:41] <quentin> BooveMan_work: but I'll take a look at rubyeclipse ;)
[21:41] <carib909> results after sudo nano ...  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29717/
[21:41] <TimS> Is qtparted on the shipit disks?
[21:43] <genii> carib909: Good. Now copy the text on http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29713/   then rightclick in nanoand put "Paste"        then ctrl-x then Y then Enter
[21:43] <carib909> sorry, but what is nano?
[21:43] <genii> carib909: When you have $ prompt again, then put:  sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers
[21:43] <genii> carib909: nano is an editor
[21:43] <Dr_willis> nano is a basic text editor for the console
[21:44] <Dr_willis> I perfer fte, or vi for the console
[21:44] <genii> carib909: Please keep in mind I'm trying t help you resolve this isssue in the next 10 minutes so I can leave work on time :)
[21:45] <BooVeMan_work> TimS: yes
[21:46] <TimS> Thought so, thanks.
[21:47] <carib909> is it this you want me to paste into nano?
[21:47] <carib909> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29719/
[21:48] <carib909> no option to save file...
[21:50] <genii> carib909: No don't save a pastebin of an empty nano file into nano. Save the paste bin of a default sudoers file which is at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/
[21:50] <carib909> error when I did chmod   see here  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29721/
[21:51]  * genii headesks
[21:51]  * BooVeMan_work hands genii a beer
[21:52] <genii> carib909: OK. alt-f2    then: kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers               then copy the contents of http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/ into it. Then in Konsole once more again:   sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers
[21:52] <Dr_willis> after saving the file.... :)
[21:53] <genii> Dr_willis: Good point
[21:53] <genii> I *must* leave now to get my second workplace on time. May return in about 45 minutes
[21:55] <carib909> when I paste pastebin 29722 i get this  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29722/
[21:55] <Dr_willis> carib909,  lets summarize what you are trying to do...
[21:56] <Dr_willis> you need to EDIT the file, paste the contents of tht pastebin INTO that editor and save the file. not the shell
[21:56] <carib909> cntrl-x not working
[21:56] <Dr_willis> I never use nano.. so cant help ya much there..
[21:57] <carib909> I posted 29714 in nano but now cntrl-x does nothing
[21:57] <Dr_willis> ctrl-x works fine here. You may want to try another editor.
[21:57] <Dr_willis> which is what genii said when he said.........
 carib909: OK. alt-f2    then: kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers
[21:57] <Dr_willis> that will use kate as the editor, not nano.
[21:58] <Dr_willis> so in summary ---->  alt-f2,  kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers  , ---> paste the conents of the pastebin, Save the file. Use the chomd command   alt-f2 --> sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers
[21:58] <Dr_willis> hmm.. does sudo work from alt-f2 ? ive never tried it...
[21:59] <Dr_willis> i would personally use the commands in a terminal (konsole window) not using alt-f2
[22:00] <carib909> Could not open location 'file:///home/ubuntu/kdesu%20kate%20/mnt/etc/sudoers'
[22:00] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[22:00] <Daisuke_Ido> wow
[22:01] <Dr_willis> I think you should just use the Konsole, and forget the alt-f2 stuff...
[22:01] <Dr_willis> Open consle.  use command -->   kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers
[22:01] <Sydero> or link konsole to alt+f2 ;)
[22:01] <slow-motion> re
[22:02] <Sydero> What's kdesu?
[22:02] <ale_> hi
[22:02] <Dr_willis> !kdesu
[22:02] <carib909> running livecd how do i open konsole?
[22:02] <Sydero> ah
[22:02] <Sydero> isn't the kdesudo?
[22:02] <Dr_willis> konsole is where you type terminal commands..
[22:02] <Dr_willis> see a konsole icon in the menus?
[22:02] <Dr_willis> !kdesudo
[22:02] <ale_> somebody know some italian channel?
[22:03] <ale_> knows*
[22:03] <carib909> no konsole icon
[22:03] <Dr_willis> Sydero,  ones like a link to the other . for some reason i forget.
[22:03] <carib909> I see terminal
[22:03] <Sydero> !italian
[22:03] <Dr_willis> carib909,   you are using the ubuntu or kubuntu live cd?  try the terminal icon then.. the exact terminal dosent matter
[22:03] <carib909> kubuntu livecd
[22:03] <Sydero> Why use kate when you can use nano :P ?
[22:03] <Sydero> I suppose copying and pasting is the reason
[22:03] <Dr_willis> Sydero,  because he cant figure out nano
[22:04] <carib909> terminal would not respond to a cntrl-x command
[22:04] <Dr_willis> i think theres MUCH better alternatives to nano for a console editor also.
[22:04] <carib909> I will try it again
[22:04] <kblin> vim?
[22:04]  * kblin ducks
[22:04] <Sydero> vim isn't an easier alternative
[22:04] <Sydero> but may be better
[22:04] <Sydero> nano is easy
[22:04] <Dr_willis> I like this editor called 'mp' but its not in ubuntu.
[22:05]  * BooVeMan_work bashes kblin however docked or not
[22:05] <kblin> BooVeMan_work: 0:)
[22:05] <Dr_willis> Sydero,  you do NOT want to know the # of peopel i have had to explain nano's  vague  '^x'  ^=control key - to people. :)
[22:05] <Dr_willis> Sydero,  seen  guys trying to hit ^ then X   way tooo many times.
[22:06] <kblin> but seriously, the real reason I said vim is that it's worth learning if you need to deal with different unices
[22:06] <carib909> I posted the contents in nano but no option to save and cntrl-x does nothing here
[22:07] <Sydero> :D
[22:07] <Sydero> yes vim is great
[22:07] <Sydero> esp when viewing huge files
[22:07] <Sydero> like text files that are hundreds of megabytes large
[22:07] <Sydero> yes there is
[22:07] <Sydero> it's ctrl+o
[22:07] <Sydero> write out
[22:08] <Sydero> or ctrl+x and say yes
[22:09] <Dr_willis> carib909,  thats why we are trying to get you to run/use kate.  Its possible your keybindings are messed up if none of the  ctrl-WHATVER shortcuts are working
[22:09] <carib909> I d/l'd konsole and pasted it
[22:09] <Dr_willis> dl'd konsole? Huh?
[22:09] <Sydero> I don't like kate :/  seems a little too bloated
[22:09] <carib909> but no cntrl-x either...
[22:09] <carib909> trying kate now
[22:09] <Sydero> kwrite seems better
[22:10] <Dr_willis> He could of read through a VI tutorial by now.. :)
[22:10] <Sydero> yeah if you actually read through the tutorials and learn it
[22:10] <Sydero> it is faster
[22:11] <Dr_willis> we need to find a pastebin that he can just 'wget' the example file from. :)
[22:11] <Sydero> for what?
[22:12] <Dr_willis> all he nees to do is replace his sudoers file with a new/original one...
[22:12] <Dr_willis> so far... nano wont save. and hes been pasteing the file to the terminal.... :P
[22:12] <Sydero> never heard of a sudoers file :/
[22:12] <BooVeMan_work> you canb download the pastebin contents
[22:12] <BooVeMan_work> wget should do
[22:13] <Sydero> delete the file
[22:13] <Dr_willis>  kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers               then copy the contents of http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/ into it. Then in Konsole once more again:   sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers
[22:13] <Sydero> and echo is or whatever
[22:13] <Sydero> in*
[22:13] <Dr_willis> BooVeMan_work,  i  Think last it tried that - it grabed the whole html page
[22:14] <carib909> kate doesn't come on the kubuntu livecd and trying to aoo applications, kate does not show up under all available apps....
[22:14] <BooVeMan_work> Dr_willis: there is a link below to doiwnload  - pass that
[22:14] <carib909> add apps
[22:15] <Dr_willis> BooVeMan_work,  heh - that 'link' dosent even look/show up as a link.. :) never noticed it befor
[22:15] <Dr_willis> sooooooooooo       wget http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/plain/
[22:15] <Dr_willis> Should download the file
[22:16] <carib909> kdesu kate /mnt/etc/sudoers
[22:16] <carib909> kdesu command not found
[22:16] <Dr_willis> carib909,  so from a terminal  'wget http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/plain/' will download the needed file locally to the filename index.html
[22:16] <BooVeMan_work> Dr_willis: yep - just tried and worked as expected
[22:17] <Dr_willis> carib909,  then you can 'sudo cp index.html /mnt/etc/sudoers'       Then    ' sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers '
[22:17] <BooVeMan_work> Dr_willis: better pass wget with an output param
[22:17] <Sydero> Why isn't 2.6.26 out yet?
[22:17] <Sydero> *the kernel
[22:17] <Dr_willis> we need to point out that Plain text link to Genii :)
[22:19] <carib909> index.html saved, but I have no clue where...
[22:19] <Dr_willis> same place you ran the command from
[22:19] <Sydero> probably desktop
[22:20] <Dr_willis> current directory
[22:20] <Sydero> oh
[22:20] <Dr_willis> so  now use the            sudo cp index.html /mnt/etc/sudoers            command
[22:20] <Dr_willis> then the last command...
[22:20] <Dr_willis>  sudo chmod 440 /mnt/etc/sudoers
[22:21] <Dr_willis> and i have NO idea how you broke your sudoers file. :)   so this is the extent of  my info on this problem.. genii may be back in a few min if its still broken
[22:22] <carib909> thanks so much. I did the chmod... what should I do now rebboot to the hard drive?
[22:22] <carib909> reboot
[22:23] <carib909> what does the chmod command do?
[22:23] <Dr_willis> try it and see i guess
[22:23] <Dr_willis> changes the permissions on the file - for security reasons
[22:23] <miguelneco> hola
[22:23] <BooVeMan_work> !spanish
[22:24] <carib909> Thanks for your help. I'll try to come back to give the result of your efforts..
[22:27] <smarty> anyone use Klik?
[22:28] <miguelneco> espanish si
[22:29] <filo1234> hello sorry for my stupid question but i don' t find it....where is path of screensavers on kde 3.5?
[22:31] <carib909> I booted into the default (topmost) version of ubuntu and ran an update from terminal and got this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29735/
[22:32] <filo1234> carib909:  you have change hostname ?
[22:33] <filo1234> carib909:  get on terminal  command hostname
[22:33] <carib909> should I have changed the hostname? how? terminal command hostname???
[22:34] <BooVeMan_work> carib909: if you ask like this - you haven't changed - nt to worry
[22:34] <filo1234> carib909:  on terminal get  hostname
[22:34] <BooVeMan_work> carib909: paste the contents of your sudoers file
[22:35] <carib909> type "get hostname" ?
[22:35] <smarty> anyone use Klik?
[22:35] <BooVeMan_work> carib909: nope nols hostname
[22:35] <filo1234> type  hostname
[22:35] <Dr_willis> smarty,  its proberly best to not use klick if you can avoide it. :)
[22:35] <carib909> what is nols?
[22:35] <BooVeMan_work> nols -> only
[22:35] <smarty> Doc : aiight thanks
[22:36] <smarty> Is there somethin wrong with it?
[22:36] <Dr_willis> it can cause issues. :)
[22:36] <smarty> Ah, okay
[22:36] <smarty> Thnx for da heads up
[22:36] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a terrible implementation of a terrible concept :)
[22:37] <smarty> :P
[22:37] <filo1234> carib909: what say that command?
[22:37] <_CrashMaster_> !info klik
[22:37] <Daisuke_Ido> _CrashMaster_: click and run software.  hello windows!
[22:37] <carib909> nols hostname =   command not found
[22:38] <_CrashMaster_> carib909: Dont type nols. Only type the word "hostname"
[22:38] <filo1234> carib909:   i have say to you   hostname
[22:38] <carib909> using kubuntu with kde4
[22:38]  * histo this is a little confusing
[22:38] <carib909> hostname is ubunto804
[22:38] <Dr_willis> we are referign to   http://klik.atekon.de/ ?
[22:38] <carib909> ubuntu804
[22:39] <BooVeMan_work> carib909: paste the contents of your sudoers file
[22:39] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: that would be the one
[22:39] <Dr_willis> thats not spelt 'klick'  :) heh heh...
[22:39] <carib909> how do I get the contents of my sudoers file?
[22:39] <Dr_willis> sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[22:39] <histo> cat
[22:39] <filo1234> carib909:  sudo nano /etc/hosts  and write in your hostname  here :  type 127.0.1.1 ubuntu804
[22:40] <BooVeMan_work> filo1234: are you sure about the contents of the sudoers file that you make hime change his hostname?!?
[22:40] <BooVeMan_work> filo1234: or the name resolution?
[22:41] <Dr_willis> his hosts file MUST match his hostname - or else sudo wont work
[22:41] <Dr_willis> !hostname
[22:41] <BooVeMan_work> filo1234: and carib909 does not master nano
[22:42] <carib909> filo please give me the comple command. I am getting errors doing them commands separately..
[22:42] <histo> omg
[22:42] <Dr_willis> is this the whole reason for all thos sudoers editing for the last 2+ hrs?
[22:42] <filo1234> BooVeMan_work:  on /etc/hosts must to be the right hostname for runnig sudo
[22:42] <BooVeMan_work> filo1234: and he can't use sudo as the sudoers is damaged...
[22:42] <histo> he can use recovery mode
[22:43] <filo1234> BooVeMan_work:  with nano sudo work
[22:43] <Daisuke_Ido> use recovery mode, reset the hostname
[22:43] <filo1234> try to trust
[22:43] <foiasfoieff> is this lala land?
[22:43] <filo1234> sudo nano /etc/hosts
[22:43] <BooVeMan_work> filo1234: if sudo fails with apt-get it will work with nano - no creo (don't think so)
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> filo1234: sudo doesn't work on a per-app basis
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> filo1234: if it doesn't work, it doesn't work
[22:44] <Dr_willis> using a broken sudo to fix sudo. :)
[22:44] <filo1234> nope i know is strange  but work
[22:44] <filo1234> Dr_willis:  have you try  sometimes?
[22:45] <Daisuke_Ido> filo1234: you are so wrong, you've actually come around the other side
[22:45] <Dr_willis> filo1234,  yes.. and ive seen others try to fix this befor.
[22:45] <carib909> sudo nano /etc/hosts returns   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29740/
[22:45] <BooVeMan_work> ... as if i hadn't known so
[22:46] <filo1234> Dr_willis:  sometimes work other times must be make it from recovery mode
[22:46]  * histo :)
[22:46] <Daisuke_Ido> filo1234: you don't get it.  if sudo is broken it won't work with *any* app, as seen in his pastebin
[22:46] <BooVeMan_work> carib909: please do a cat /etc/hosts and paste the result
[22:46] <carib909> ok
[22:47] <histo> carib909: reboot and get in to recovery mode. Then you can edit  your hosts and hostmane
[22:48]  * BooVeMan_work likes to point out that carib909 is a beginner who needs very detailed steps who to do things
[22:48] <BooVeMan_work> *how
[22:48] <carib909> cat/etc/hosts returns    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29744/
[22:48] <carib909> histo  what do i edit and how and where?
[22:49] <filo1234> BooVeMan_work:  i have most experience on same problem  with sudo nano was possible to edit file,  if not possible must to make it from recovery mode, but try isn' t expensive
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> filo1234: did you read his pastebin?
[22:50] <filo1234> Daisuke_Ido:  sure
[22:50] <carib909> booveman can you paste instructions that I can follow if I have to use recovery mode please?
[22:50] <BooVeMan_work> ... seams fine to me...
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29740/ <- filo1234 just so you can see it again
[22:50] <filo1234> Daisuke_Ido:  was a try
[22:50] <BooVeMan_work> carib909: your hosts file seem s all right
[22:50] <filo1234> Daisuke_Ido:  i have to seeee... but maybe you don' t understand me
[22:51] <filo1234> BooVeMan_work:  is' n right hosts file
[22:52] <carib909> BooVeMan   i cannot issue an update or upgrade command. neither synaptic manager or Adept will start up
[22:52] <filo1234> BooVeMan_work:  for you is right this line?? 127.0.1.1 Ubunto804.Chords Ubunto804
[22:53] <filo1234> hostname must corrisponde on  /etc/hosts
[22:53] <filo1234> ok i shut up
[22:54] <carib909> I am not sure what you mean but all the information is correct. the workgroup or domain is chords and the hostname is ubuntu804: I am not sure what the 2nd ubuntu804 is for. that is NOT the username.
[22:54] <posingaspopular> how do i ignore join/parts in irssi
[22:54] <posingaspopular> please
[22:55] <carib909> filo1234 doesn't the hostname correspond in /etc/hosts?
[22:55] <filo1234> nope
[22:55] <carib909> what does it show as the hostname there?
[22:56] <filo1234> carib909:   hostname command  result?
[22:56] <Dr_willis> posingaspopular,  you use the /ignore command..  forget the exact syntax
[22:56] <Dr_willis> posingaspopular,  the irssi hompage has  examples/docs of it.
[22:56] <posingaspopular> Dr_willis: i tried /ignore JOINS #ubuntu-room
[22:56] <Dr_willis> posingaspopular,  t you may have it backwards.
[22:56] <carib909> hostname command result = ubuntu804
[22:57] <_CrashMaster_> hang on a second.. You aren't allowed to have spaces in your hostname. Are you?
[22:57] <Dr_willis> Ive never seen a hostename with spaces
[22:57] <carib909> no spaces what spaces are you seeing?
[22:57] <posingaspopular> spaces are not allowed in hostnames
[22:57] <_CrashMaster_>  Ubunto804.Chords Ubunto804
[22:58] <_CrashMaster_> space between Chords and the last part
[22:58] <Dr_willis> my hosts file line for this box -------->     127.0.1.1 Tiny
[22:58] <carib909> chords is the workgroup
[22:58] <filo1234> Dr_willis:  your hostname is Tiny
[22:58] <Dr_willis> aha.. Hmm..i recall some issues with workgoups in the hostname..
[22:58] <carib909> ok how can I correct this?
[22:58] <filo1234> nooopeee
[22:58] <Dr_willis> filo1234,  yes it is. :) this machines name is 'Tiny'
[22:59] <filo1234> ok
[22:59] <posingaspopular> got it now, thanks Dr_willis
[22:59] <filo1234> carib909:  that line must be so 127.0.1.1 Ubuntu804 <------your right hostname
[23:00] <carib909> ubuntu804 is the hostname...
[23:00] <filo1234> carib909:  you must be reboot on kernel recovery mode
[23:00] <carib909> ok then do what?
[23:00]  * genii puts on yet another pot of coffee
[23:01] <filo1234> carib909:  after  you must  say  nano /etc/hosts  and replace that words
[23:01] <Daisuke_Ido> extra strength, please
[23:01] <carib909> genii welcome back. I am still struggling to fix hosts file
[23:01] <filo1234> carib909:  that line must be so 127.0.1.1 Ubuntu804 <------your right hostname
[23:01] <Dr_willis> Hostname is what your computer will be "called" under ubuntu and the domain name only applies if you belong to a domain which desktops generally do not.
[23:01] <BooVeMan_work> genii: Dr_willis didn't know that you can wget the contens of a pastebin
[23:02] <carib909> ???
[23:02] <Dr_willis> BooVeMan_work,  genii  dident know either. :)  i memo'd  that link/plain thing to him :)
[23:02] <genii> It's all good :)
[23:02] <carib909> I installed ubuntu 8.04 server. I wanted to run this as a server.
[23:02] <Dr_willis> silly link that dident look like a link.
[23:02] <genii> carib909: So you managed to reboot into hd after repairing the sudoers file from livecd no and are onto next issue?
[23:02] <Dr_willis> carib909,   if wanting to run a server. you proberly will want to be spending some time learning some bash basics,
[23:03] <carib909> I am learning
[23:03] <genii> Yes indeedy
[23:03] <BooVeMan_work> genii: yes returns a syntax error
[23:03] <BooVeMan_work> genii: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29740/
[23:03] <carib909> I am MCSE certified and CCNA, but UNIX is new to me. I am trying to learn through Linux...
[23:03] <genii> BooVeMan_work: What is it thats returning some syntax error?
[23:04] <BooVeMan_work> jep
[23:04] <Dr_willis> carib909,  it may be well worth the effort to spend a few hrs learning vi. (put on to do list) heh...
[23:04] <BooVeMan_work> the pastebin i posted
[23:04] <carib909> And what is vi?
[23:04] <BooVeMan_work> carib909: test editor liek nano
[23:04] <BooVeMan_work> *text
[23:04] <genii> carib909: When you copied the sudoers file over, you did not also copy the line numbers of each line from pastebin, did you?
[23:05] <Dr_willis> genii,  the wget command did not grab the line #'s :)
[23:05] <carib909> ok I will try that, but now its vi or kate or knosole or nano.... which one to use?
[23:05] <Dr_willis> carib909,  learn them all.
[23:05] <BooVeMan_work> genii: no we made him do a wget - so no line numbers
[23:05] <genii> Dr_willis: OK, good
[23:05] <carib909> Right now I jsut want to try to fix broken hosts
[23:06] <BooVeMan_work> to me ints not broken...
[23:06] <Dr_willis> carib909,  so you need to edit your /etc/hosts file to match the machines actual 'hostname'
[23:06] <carib909> genii I did not copy the line numbers
[23:07] <carib909> I still was unable to issue an update command without errors. My update packages would not work or even start when using the gui.
[23:07] <genii> carib909: If you learn vi it is the classic admin tool since things like vipw and vipasswd are based on it. But I personally prefer nano or pico
[23:07] <Dr_willis> it pays to learn vi.. :) and learn it well.
[23:07] <BooVeMan_work> genii: or for sudoedit
[23:08] <carib909> I followed all the instructions to chmod the file and rebooted but still they say there is something wrong with my hostname
[23:08] <carib909> Where does one get docs for vi?
[23:08] <posingaspopular> carib909: google ;p
[23:08] <filo1234> carib909:  chmod?? who say to you to use chmod?
[23:09] <BooVeMan_work> Dr_willis: can you repost what you send him?
[23:09] <BooVeMan_work> filo1234: yes chmod
[23:09] <genii> filo1234: The sudoers file *must* be 440 permissions. So when he recreates one it requires to chmod it
[23:10] <carib909> how can I go back to the conversation b4 genii left?
[23:10] <Dr_willis> BooVeMan_work,  basically put output of   wget http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29714/plain/     into /etc/hosts
[23:10] <filo1234> BooVeMan_work:  him problem  isn' permission
[23:10] <BooVeMan_work> Dr_willis: hoope into /etc/sudoers - if not we are blown ;-)
[23:11] <Dr_willis> BooVeMan_work,  he never even mentioned hosts untill just now.. it was sudoers
[23:11] <deyvesson> gente estou tentando instalar o mercury mas naum to conseguindo sou novo no linux alguem pode ajudar?
[23:11] <carib909> filo1234 I followed geinii's instructions from 2 hours ago...and the last command was chmod .....
[23:11]  * Dr_willis  wonders how the system got so messed up.
[23:11] <filo1234> carib909:  ok follow genii
[23:12] <deyvesson> alguem do brazil ai?
[23:12] <BooVeMan_work> !Portuguese
[23:13] <carib909> filo1234 thanks for your help... I am not sure genii is available
[23:14] <filo1234> carib909:  i have say to you my solution
[23:15] <carib909> I do not fully understand your solution. Can you paste specific step by step actions to take in pastebin for me please?
[23:19] <filo1234> carib909:  follow this steps  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29757/
[23:20] <carib909> ok thanks let me look
[23:20] <Dr_willis> hopefully his nano works now....
[23:20] <sanel> #bosnia
[23:20] <BooVeMan_work> hopefully he knows how to boot into recovery mode
[23:21] <filo1234> carib909:  are you able to reboot recovery mode?
[23:21] <Dr_willis> hopefully he will leve the domain blank in the future. :)
[23:21] <carib909> filo1234 when I boot to recovery mode should I select drop to shell?
[23:22] <carib909> how do I "edit the line into shell" sudo ?
[23:22] <filo1234> carib909:  recovery mode is a tty terminale ( like a shell )
[23:22] <BooVeMan_work> Dr_willis: my hosts contains domain names and works just fine... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29760/
[23:22] <filo1234> carib909:  nope without sudo
[23:22] <Dr_willis> BooVeMan_work,  aparently his dosent. :)
[23:23] <BooVeMan_work> Dr_willis: sadly
[23:23] <carib909> how do I execute step 4?
[23:23] <Dr_willis> BooVeMan_work,  i was thinking he entered a workgroup name.. not a domain name.
[23:23] <Dr_willis> BooVeMan_work,  but i got no idea of the ORIGINAL problem.
[23:23] <BooVeMan_work> Dr_willis: that may or may not be the difference...
[23:23] <filo1234> BooVeMan_work:  him  hostname  is Ubuntu804  on /etc/hosts  he have Ubunto804
[23:23] <Dr_willis> carib909,  using the nano editor make the changes.
[23:24] <filo1234> Dr_willis:  is not original problem,
[23:24] <Dr_willis> 127.0.1.1 Ubunto804.Chords Ubunto804       becomes        127.0.1.1  Ubunto804
[23:24] <filo1234> nopeee Ubuntu804
[23:24] <Dr_willis> theres been so many problems.. im not even sure what disrto hes using....... :)
[23:25] <carib909> BooVeMan I cannot launch synaptic manager or adept
[23:25] <BooVeMan_work> Dr_willis: (12:26:36 PM) carib909: I have an error in my etc/samba/smb.conf file and I cannot sudo kate to correct tit. Will not let me save. Apt and synaptic cannot identify the host and I can no longer browse hard drives.
[23:25] <carib909> I cannot do sudo apt-get updates
[23:26] <MrKennie> apt-get update
[23:26] <filo1234> carib909:  want follow solutions? or not?
[23:27] <carib909> I just printed steps. I am not sure how to reboot to recovery mode shell
[23:27] <genii> I have 30 ppl here I need to go babysit. AFK
[23:27] <carib909> lol sorry guys I am just learning
[23:27]  * BooVeMan_work hands genii a beer and a coffee to choose from
[23:28] <Dr_willis> sounds to me like a lot of unlrelated issues going on.. and i wonder what happened to cause all them
[23:29] <carib909> filo1234 so I reboot and select recovery mode which is the 2nd selection then what?
[23:29] <Dr_willis> i wonder.. has the machine EVER worked properly?
[23:29] <filo1234> carib909: give command
[23:29] <BooVeMan_work> carib909: use the shell option
[23:29] <filo1234> carib909:  i have write command on pastebin
[23:29] <filo1234> carib909:  print that
[23:30] <carib909> It was a clean install but each installation had one issue or another. Mot of the problems came from nvidia drivers.
[23:30] <Dr_willis> ugh.. if you are wanting to run a server...err... i wont even go there....
[23:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:30] <carib909> filo1234 I printed your pastebin but you maade general staements that I do not know how to execute.
[23:31] <carib909> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29757/
[23:31] <carib909> I have run windows 2003 server for years
[23:32] <Dr_willis> using the nano editor, you are going to change 1 line of the file basically.  - is how i read those instructions.
[23:32] <filo1234> carib909:  you must to give that commands
[23:32] <carib909> here I go
[23:35] <HardDrago> Hi F@lks
[23:39] <idoo> hi
[23:40] <idoo> I want to run a pl script as super user
[23:40] <idoo> how can i do that
[23:40] <idoo> its install script
[23:40] <BooVeMan_work> idoo: sudo >script>
[23:40] <BooVeMan_work> idoo: sudo <script>
[23:42] <idoo> thanks BooVeMan_work
[23:42] <idoo> :)
[23:55] <ubuntu_> hola
[23:55] <_CrashMaster_> !es