[00:05] <mwhudson> jelmer: what were you trying to do?  just push?
[00:48] <jelmer> mwhudson, yes
[00:48] <mwhudson> jelmer: did anything odd happen client-side, like bzr spinning and sucking up 100% cpu?
[00:49] <jelmer> mwhudson: it did spin, not sure whether it used 100% cpu
[00:49] <mwhudson> jelmer: what version of bzr?
[00:49] <jelmer> I had to abort it and break the lock
[00:49] <jelmer> client-side: 1.6
[00:49] <jelmer> I mean, 1.5
[00:49] <mwhudson> :(
[01:43] <tjs> just a small curiosity. why do bzr pushes not count towards a persons contribution to a project?
[01:43] <tjs> Are code changes not the best type of contribution?
[01:45] <mwhudson> tjs: in progress
[01:45] <tjs> mwhudson: neato :)
[01:45] <tjs> just had someone file a bug against my little project and noticed they were top contributor
[01:46] <tjs> not that I'm an ego-maniac or anything.. ;D
[01:46] <mwhudson> heh yes
[01:46] <mwhudson> that can get a little strange
[02:17] <Peng_> I have 3500 points from registering branches for one tiny tweak. :\
[02:19] <ToyKeeper> Yeah, that gives a ridiculous amount of karma.
[02:19] <ToyKeeper> Or it used to...  dunno if it still does.
[02:19] <ToyKeeper> As far as I can tell, I haven't gotten any from it lately, but I've only been using bzr to do it -- not the web UI.
[02:20] <Peng_> Hmmm. Could I register a bunch of empty +junk branches? :D
[02:20] <kiko> Peng_, well, if you keep doing it enough, the karma levels out!
[06:26] <jumpkick> how do I untarget a bug from a release?
[07:04] <wgrant> jumpkick: It's not possible - perhaps mark it as Invalid or Won't Fix, whichever is appropriate.
[09:15] <coolbhavi> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/11431/
[09:16] <coolbhavi> Please promote my idea its a long bugging thing I think
[09:17] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: of all the places you *could* have put that, brainstorm was not a good one.
[09:17] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: do you really think launchpad == ubuntu?
[09:17] <Hobbsee> and that places to record ubuntu ideas is *really* an appropriate place to put requests for launchpad, in general?
[09:18] <coolbhavi> no Hobbsee option was there to report it against the website so I did
[09:18] <Hobbsee> ubuntu.com != launchpad.net
[09:19] <coolbhavi> yes I agree
[09:19] <Hobbsee> the website it refers to, oddly enough, is ubuntu.com
[09:21] <Hobbsee> and in no way does your request even mention ubuntu
[09:24] <Hobbsee> interesting.  there is a launchpad.net field hidden in there.  still, it really should relate to ubuntu.
[09:24] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: you should report it at bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad
[09:24] <Hobbsee> otherwise it will completely be ignored.
[09:25] <Hobbsee> bug 130285
[09:25] <coolbhavi> yes
[09:25] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: oh well.  wait patiently then.  bugs regularly take many months to get fixed.
[09:25] <coolbhavi> :)
[09:27] <coolbhavi> Hobbsee, so i ve posted it under others and against launchpad.net
[09:27] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: regardless, it's absolutely useless on ideastorm.  but OK.
[09:30] <coolbhavi> Hobbsee, ok ! cya
[10:34] <IntuitiveNipple> On edge I'm seeing PPA DKMS kernel module package build failures for gutsy hardy and intrepid packages because the make clean tries to operate on the non-existent directory "/lib/modules/2.6.16.51/build" whereas (with hardy) locally it'll be " /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/build" - is this a buildd error (previous package builds were successful) ?
[10:35] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm wondering where it is getting "2.6.16-15" from!?
[10:35] <IntuitiveNipple> s/2.6.16-15/2/6/16/51/
[10:35]  * IntuitiveNipple stamps on clumsy fingers! "2.6.16.51"
[10:36] <gnomefreak> that sounds more like a package error than a LP error
[10:36] <IntuitiveNipple> I thought that initially but they build fine locally, and previous uploads have also built correctly.
[10:37] <IntuitiveNipple> The debian/rules is using vanilla CDBS build
[10:37] <gnomefreak> it should be 2.6.16.51 but its error is with 2.6.16.15?
[10:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Could the "2.6.16.51" be the buildd kernel version?
[10:37] <elmo> IntuitiveNipple: yes, it is
[10:38] <elmo> IntuitiveNipple: the package needs to not look at the running kernel version during build, that'll just lead to all sorts of pain and suffering
[10:38] <IntuitiveNipple> hmmm... so how the *&^% is CDBS suddenly getting that version instead of the chroot version?
[10:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Could the inclusion of CDBS's 'makefile' scripts do this? Although not-used I added that entry to be compatible with other similar packages. One way to find out I guess!
[10:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Okay, confirming that including CDBS's 'makefile.mk' in debian/rules caused that failure
[12:30] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[12:52] <effie_jayx> hello, how does one change a ssh key in lauchpad with the new interface. I can't seem to find the edit link for adding more keys
[12:54] <mwhudson> effie_jayx: change details -> ssh keys in the second level of tabs
[12:54] <mwhudson> (maybe third level, depending how you're counting)
[12:55] <effie_jayx> mwhudson,  are beta launchpad and regular launchpad  the same right now.
[12:55] <mwhudson> effie_jayx: no
[12:55] <effie_jayx> mwhudson,  ok. is ther a way to disable the beta page for a while... I need to take some screenshots
[12:55] <mwhudson> effie_jayx: yeah, go to launchpad.net and click the button
[12:56] <mwhudson> as in https://launchpad.net/, the front page
[12:56] <effie_jayx> thanks
[12:57] <LarstiQ> galvanize
[12:57] <mwhudson> (though this part of production does look pretty similar to edge)
[12:58] <mwhudson> LarstiQ: sure, where's the bucket of molten zinc?
[12:59] <mpt> (cue Larstiq hurriedly changing a password somewhere)
[12:59] <Spads> http://linuxmafia.com/pub/humour/zinc <-- mwhudson
[12:59] <LarstiQ> mwhudson: ref 'click the button'
[12:59] <mwhudson> LarstiQ: oh right
[13:00] <LarstiQ> though it should be 'push the button', ah well
[14:06] <TuniX12> hello
[14:07] <TuniX12> cant upload patch to bazaar
[14:07] <TuniX12> any suggestion?
[14:11] <spiv> TuniX12: depends on what the problem is :)
[14:11] <spiv> TuniX12: are you getting an error?
[14:12] <spiv> Or just don't know where to start?
[14:12] <spiv> Or something else?
[14:12] <TuniX12> spiv i have a patch for Gufw
[14:12] <TuniX12> so i follow instrcutions
[14:12] <TuniX12> bzr push
[14:13] <TuniX12> but i get an error
[14:13] <TuniX12> upload locked
[14:13] <TuniX12> or something like that
[14:21] <Peng_> TuniX12: That means either someone is in the middle of some operation on the branch, or they were, and their connection went out or something and they never finished.
[15:42] <andrea-bs> mpt: the "Latest questions" portlet on a person page does no longer exist; should I report a bug or this is correct?
[15:43] <mpt> andrea-bs, it's correct
[15:44] <mpt> It's still available from the Answers tab
[15:44] <andrea-bs> ok, thanks!
[16:53] <fbond> Hi, hate to be a bother, but I don't suppose I could persuade someone to take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/39961 ?
[17:05] <salgado> matsubara, can you help fbond?
[17:05]  * matsubara looks
[17:06] <matsubara> fbond: in  https://edge.launchpad.net/~forest-bond/+editwikinames you should be able to change the wikpage to point to the desired page.
[17:07] <matsubara> I don't know about the ppa. if the merge doesn't take care of that, we'll need some sort of db intervention
[17:07] <matsubara> cprov: do you know how difficult it is to move a lingering ppa from a merged account to the new account?
[17:15] <fbond> matsubara: WRT +editwikinames, thanks, didn't know about that.
[17:41] <andrea-bs> Hello! When I try to browse staging I get a 503
[17:43] <BjornT> andrea-bs: staging is being updated at the moment. it should be back in a few minutes.
[17:44] <andrea-bs> BjornT: will the database be reset?
[17:46] <BjornT> andrea-bs: i don't think so. i think this is a code update only.
[17:46] <andrea-bs> BjornT: thanks for the info
[17:52] <matsubara-lunch> fbond: btw, the ppa part from your question is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/87098
[17:52] <matsubara-lunch> which is private and you'll not be able to see.
[17:52] <matsubara-lunch> sorry about that
[17:53] <fbond> matsubara-lunch: That's okay :)
[17:53] <matsubara-lunch> anyway, that's a known bug and there's discussion going on how to properly fix that
[17:53] <fbond> matsubara-lunch: Can the PPA be moved to the new account manually?
[17:54] <fbond> matsubara-lunch: If not, I can just active the PPA for the new account and re-upload everything.
[17:54] <matsubara-lunch> don't know, I'll ask cprov and follow up on the question. I'll also leave a comment in the bug report pointing to your question to raise awareness
[17:55] <fbond> matsubara-lunch: Okay.  I actually spoke with cprov yesterday.  He instructed me to post the question that you are addressing.
[17:55] <cprov> fbond: point me to the question you filed and I will move it right now.
[17:55] <matsubara-lunch> cprov: cool, thanks duderino!  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/39961
[17:55] <fbond> cprov: Okay.
[17:55] <fbond> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/39961
[18:01] <cprov> fbond: done
[18:01] <cprov> fbond: let me know if it's working as expected.
[18:03] <fbond> cprov: Thanks, I will.
[18:07] <fbond> cprov: Everything seems to be working perfectly.  Thanks!
[18:07] <cprov> fbond: you are welcome.
[18:08] <cprov> fbond: try a new upload soonish, if you can.
[18:08] <fbond> cprov: I'll see what I can come up with.
[18:09] <cprov> fbond: thank you.
[18:50] <fbond> cprov: Just did an upload.  Worked fine.
[18:50] <fbond> Thanks.
[18:52] <cprov> fbond: fantastic!
[20:02] <_deleted_> hi all!
[20:02] <_deleted_> oops
[20:03] <treeform> i am trying to do a cvs import into a bzr branch ... how long should that take?
[20:05] <treeform> or more accurately i am wondering when it should start, i have "requested the import" about 24 hours ago - maybe there is an error some place i am not catching?
[20:06] <treeform> https://code.launchpad.net/panda3d
[20:06] <treeform> thanks in advance for any help provided
[20:06] <beuno> treeform, it sometimes takes a few days to start. I'd say, give it a day or two, and, if not, file a question
[20:08] <treeform> beuno: ok will do!  Do you know haw fast it would take? the repo is 800K sloc and about 8 years old?  Would that take weeks or months?
[20:13] <beuno> treeform, I think it depends on how busy LP is, but I'd say weeks rather then months
[20:13] <beuno> mwhudson knows much more about this, but he may not have had his morning coffee yet
[20:13] <treeform> ok
[20:13] <beuno> if you stick around for an hour or two he may pop up
[20:14] <treeform> ok ill stick for 6 more ...
[20:14] <beuno> treeform, are you starting to use LP for that project, or just code hosting in bzr?
[20:15] <treeform> i love bzr - use it for all my projects (not open source)
[20:15] <treeform> then only open source project i use alot is panda3d
[20:15] <treeform> but its on cvs - i cant stand it
[20:15] <treeform> so i wanted to have a bzr repo to pull from and give other people the option
[20:16] <beuno> treeform, cool
[20:16] <treeform> also project - sort of lost its maintainer - i want to see if i can push into bzr direction
[20:17] <treeform> and use the rest of launchpad goodies
[20:18] <beuno> treeform, great, if you do manage that, you can import bugs from some common bug trackers
[20:20] <treeform> beuno: i dont think it can import bugs from phpBulletinBoard  ...
[20:20] <beuno> treeform, ah, probably not
[20:20] <treeform> i would like to get a better bug tracking ...
[20:21] <beuno> right, I don't even want to know why you use a forum to track bugs  :)
[20:22] <treeform> beuno: the project is open sourcing of Disney's 3d engine ... which they did jointly with CMU ... but the main panda3d contact at CMU left ...
[20:22] <treeform> beuno: the Disney contact said that at one time they did have a bug tracker but it was not used much and bugs still where posted to forum
[20:23] <treeform> i bet they have their own internal bug tacker but it tracks more projects then panda3d so they cant give us access
[20:24] <beuno> treeform, then I suppose you can enable bugs on the project, and let people file bugs/questions against it
[20:24] <beuno> and see if that catches on
[20:24] <treeform> yeah thats the plan
[20:24] <beuno> should be easier to track than forums threads
[20:24] <treeform> oh yeah
[20:24] <treeform> i cant track what i said ... let alone other people
[20:29] <treeform> beuno: another thing that worries me is that the project is huge - 800K lines of code - would it take a lot of space as a bzr because it keeps reversion info with every checkout unlike cvs?
[20:30] <treeform> ah probably cant be much the current source code compresses to 63 Megs ...
[20:31] <beuno> right, the MySQL branch, if IIRC, is around 600mb
[20:32] <treeform> hopefully panda3d will be under 200 when imported - but 600 is a little pushing it :)
[20:33] <beuno> treeform, I suspect it will be smaller as a bzr branch than in cvs, but that's just a wild guess
[20:33] <treeform> well 63 megs is just the trunk files compressed
[20:34] <treeform> not the branch
[20:34] <beuno> right, well, you'll find out soon enough
[20:37] <treeform> the cvs branch that i have is 409MB
[20:38] <levander> Is there any way to edit a bug report on Launchpad?
[20:38] <levander> I accidentally put some info in there that I really can't make public.
[20:39] <beuno> levander, a bug or a comment on a bug?
[20:39] <levander> Some info I put in the bug description.
[20:39] <beuno> levander, sure, there's an edit icon on the top right
[20:39] <beuno> click that, and edit out the descroption
[20:40] <levander> I don't see it.  I'm looking around where it says "Convert to a question".
[20:40] <beuno> levander, are you logged in?
[20:40] <levander> yeah
[20:40] <matsubara> levander: there's a "Update description" link below the description itself
[20:41] <matsubara> but that might not be enough, since the original description will be available
[20:42] <persia> One can also make bugs Private, which restricts them to subscribers.  With only the reporter as a subscriber, it has fairly limited potential for viewing.
[20:42] <levander> Easily available to the public, or available to admins?
[20:43] <levander> I just can't have anyone who does a public google search be able to read it is all. It's that I post a lot on the internet and my employer has told me not to use my real name when I post on technology topics is all.
[20:43] <levander> And yes, they've done google searches to check.
[20:44] <levander> There are PR consequences.  I don't really care, but they do.
[20:44] <matsubara> levander: the original description will be available to whoever has access to the bug report. if you mark the bug private then it won't be avaiable in a general google search
[20:44] <kiko> levander, can I see a URL to the report?
[20:44] <matsubara> levander: notice that this channel is publicly logged and might be searchable by google :-)
[20:48] <levander> matsubara: Note that I haven't put my real name in channel.
[20:49] <levander> Where is the link to get the original bug report?
[20:49] <matsubara> levander: besides the "Update description" link
[20:50] <kiko> levander, in your browser URL box.
[20:50] <levander> Damnit.  I can't put in a request to just have the bug report deleted and I'll put another bug in?
[20:50] <kiko> levander, what's the bug url?
[20:52] <levander> What I'll do is mark it private, re-enter the bug, then add a comment marking it as a duplicate.
[20:56] <levander> kiko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmailfs/+bug/251261
[20:58] <kiko> levander, what's sensitive in that bug report?
[20:59] <levander> kiko: just delete it.
[20:59] <levander> kiko: I'm not giving you ammo to run around the internet liek a 5 year old.
[20:59] <kiko> levander, what are you talking about, exactly?
[20:59] <levander> kiko: just delete it
[21:00]  * kiko shrugs
[21:00] <kiko> I can't, so I guess keeping it private will have to suffice. I'd need more information to be able to actually help.
[21:03] <kiko-afk> levander, you also seem to have duplicated the bug description in the follow-up bug you filed, btw.
[21:03] <kiko-afk> I'm off to oscon again, catch you all later
[21:04] <levander> Man that kiko guy was stalking me.  He was working hard to find the info.  Thing was, the info isn't even that important.  It's just paranoia by my employers.
[21:06] <beuno> levander, kiko is Launchpad's lead developer. I'm pretty sure he just wanted to help you, not stalk you
[21:06] <persia> levander: kiko is *THE* LP guy.  Only trying to help.
[21:08] <levander> beuno: Well then, why does it matter what the info was?
[21:08] <levander> beuno: He's probably not a bad guy, curiousity just got the better of him is all.
[21:10] <beuno> levander, probably to give you a good answer
[21:45] <TuniX12> hello anyone knows how to upload binaries into ppa?
[21:46] <cprov> TuniX12: it's not allowed, sources should be built in the PPA infrastructure atm
[21:48] <mrevell> Just to confirm - Launchpad will be offline for a few minutes from 22.00 UTC today (i.e. 23rd July) - that is, in roughly 1 hour and 10 mins.
[21:55] <TuniX12> it is 22:55
[21:55] <TuniX12> lol
[21:56] <mwhudson> not UTC it's not
[21:56] <TuniX12> 22.00 according to what time region?
[21:56] <TuniX12> ah
[21:56] <TuniX12> ok
[22:32] <cyberix> Where can I find explanations for the bug status messages?
[22:34] <beuno> cyberix, https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/Statuses
[22:49] <cyberix> beuno: thanks