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Hewbug #224366 is a dupe but I can't find the original bug. It's that issue where an app can't access the sound device because it's in use by pulseaudio. eg, flash videos don't play while rhythmbox does. Surely it's a big bug somewhere; can anyone find it?06:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 224366 in quodlibet "Quod libet and flashplugin-nonfree conflict over sound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22436606:09
Rocket2DMnHew, i think youre right, but i dont think its with flashplugin-nonfree specifically06:12
Hewyea I think it was pulseaudio06:12
HewI know Wine gets blocked too06:12
Hewah, I think this is it: bug #18391706:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 183917 in libflashsupport "Sound stops working in Firefox once other applications (Pidgin, Rhythmbox) have played sound" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18391706:13
Hewsorting reports by number of duplicates really helps :-)06:14
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NCommanderWhy is grabbing the Session causing mod_python to crash07:57
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philsfhow can I set status of a bug per release?13:54
philsfI "nominated" the bug for hardy and intrepido, but can't find where to set the status for each13:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 128074 in poppler "strange font behaviour - connected letters" [Low,Fix committed]13:55
philsfBug #128074 is "Fix Released" for Intrepid, and "New" for Hardy.13:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 128074 in poppler "strange font behaviour - connected letters" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12807413:56
james_wphilsf: you can only do that once it has been approved14:00
james_wnominating means that it shows up on a list for consideration, from which it will be either accepted or declined. If it is accepted then you can change the status in each release.14:00
philsfoh.. you sound as if I shouldn't have done it..14:01
philsfsorry for that14:01
* philsf feels like a kid that dropped something14:02
seb128philsf: I doubt it'll be accepted, that's not a trivial change and the comments indicate it's not perfect, not something for stable updates14:02
james_wphilsf: I didn't mean that, sorry if I gave that impression.14:03
philsfseb128: I see. I still think it's important that this is fixed, especially in an LTS release. the LTS should be the one used in academic workplaces, but this is really a stopper for newbies.14:04
seb128philsf: well if there is a solid patch available I'm not against it but so far nobody suggested one14:04
philsfof course one could use one of the plethora other choices for pdf readers, but in gnome, they are all slower than evince14:05
philsfseb128: I see. thanks for your comments, though. can I revert the improper nomination?14:05
seb128not sure, I've the privileges to accept or refuse those so I don't know what interface the people who don't get14:06
philsfjames_w: no worries. I should have read.... something... before messing with bug statuses14:06
seb128but just wait for somebody to accept or reject it that's no issue14:06
philsfmaybe this should be accepted, and turned hardy state to invalid?14:06
philsfI just posted the informative last post to upstream, so they see the new screenshot, and know about the still wrong "fi" string problem. maybe if there's a fix, someone can backport the patch to poppler 0.6.414:08
philsfk, thanks sebastian14:08
perezaHi. that is a problem for new peple when working with bugs. Sometime I say to myself if it is ok to change thing in the bug report14:09
seb128philsf: did you try in intrepid using 0.8? does it work correctly on this version?14:09
philsfseb128 I can't install intrepid right now, and have no time to learn about VMs, sorry14:10
philsfnot that I wouldnt like it14:10
seb128maybe you can download a liveCD and give it a try?14:10
seb128no need to install14:10
philsfseb128: how could I forget that...14:10
seb128philsf: see, there is always a solution ;-)14:11
philsfpereza: yeah, maybe lp could have some help links or ballons14:12
philsfnew alpha tomorrow? I'll do it then14:12
perezaquestion here, bug 224589, do we need to know which version of ubuntu he/she is running?14:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 224589 in apt "apt-get --only-source does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22458914:14
perezaphilsf, any ideas?14:19
philsfpereza: can you reproduce it?14:27
philsfpereza: I always assume bug reporters are using the latest release at the time of the posting. people who are lazy enough to upgrade, aren't exactly the most common bug reporters14:30
philsfnevertheless if you(someone) can reproduce it in hardy, that's what counts14:30
perezaphilsf, thanks for the info14:41
Jazzvajcastro, ping15:21
* persia generally encourages contentful pings, even when only one person can be any help at all.15:22
jcastroJazzva: yo!15:23
Jazzvaok :)15:23
Jazzvajcastro, could you please prolong my membership in ubuntu-bugcontrol. I received notification that it's about to expire15:24
Jazzvapersia, thanks for the advice...15:24
jcastroJazzva: one moment15:24
Jazzvajcastro, ok15:25
jcastrohmm, I have no idea how to do that15:25
persiaJazzva: Can you not extend it yourself?15:26
jcastroI don't see anywhere in the UI on how to manage membership length in a team15:26
Jazzvapersia, I'm not sure I can...15:26
jcastroI think when it expires it sends you a mail to extend?15:27
* persia looks at the new UI, having done this before15:27
Jazzvapersia, nope... I think administrator only can do that.15:27
Jazzva*only administrator15:27
Jazzvajcastro, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/+members , there should be a pen icon on the right of every row. My name is Saša Bodiroža, so you can search with that15:28
persiaJazzva: What do you get when you visit the team page in LP?  I think you should get a menu item to renew.15:28
jcastroah, I see it, thanks15:28
persiajcastro: As an admin, if you show all members (/+members) you can edit specific members.15:29
james_wjcastro: hi, could you extend mine while you are at it please?15:29
Jazzvapereza, I can't find that option.15:29
jcastroyep, found it, you're all set Jazzva15:29
Jazzvaups, persia15:29
james_whi persia15:29
persiajames_w: Hi15:29
Jazzvajcastro, thanks :)15:29
jcastrojames_w: all set15:29
james_wgreat, thanks.15:29
jonpackardI'm trying to run a backtrace using gdb for a problem in Tomboy.. I'm getting an error about /usr/bin/tomboy not being an executable.. could anybody please help me with this please? See http://pastebin.com/f64be32fd for full output. Thanks!15:56
persiajonpackard: tomboy is a bash script.  You might find more information there about how to get a trace.15:59
persiaThat said, you may do just as well to turn on apport and report it that way (see https:/wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for instructions on activating apport16:00
jonpackardpersia: thanks! I'm actually confirming bug 250502 and wanted to include a backtrace for more info16:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250502 in tomboy "Tomboy crashes when creating a new notebook" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25050216:01
persiajonpackard: If you can discover a good generic way to do it, it might be good to add some information on how to debug Mono apps.  As much as I like backtraces, I'm not sure how to get a good one for those.16:03
seb128the current handling of mono crashes is not good16:10
seb128getting a gdb stacktrace of the mono interpreter is usually not that useful16:10
seb128would be nice if somebody could write special handling for mono crash, similar to what is done for python crashes16:11
seb128also GNOME crashing is likely either a gnome-session or xorg bug16:12
NCommanderseb128, well, right now, a big mono fix for a lot of the random segfaults went in16:13
NCommander(it was caused by some "genius" commenting out an entire block of code; I rewrote the patch to do it right, and it went upstream"16:13
seb128ah, good to know16:13
NCommanderI want to backport to Hardy16:15
NCommanderBut I haven't been able to find or write a test case that proves its affected beside having the same braindead code fix16:15
jonpackardThanks for the help. Which package provides Mono? I want to include that when I confirm the bug about Tomboy.16:15
NCommanderjonpackard, mono provides mono ;-)16:16
NCommanderpostscript is an ASCII format, right?16:16
jonpackardjon@bjh34kj54b:~$ apt-cache policy mono16:17
jonpackard  Installed: (none)16:17
jonpackard  Candidate: (none)16:17
jonpackard  Version table:16:17
seb128jonpackard: mono-jit16:18
persiapostscript may be unicode, but is usually also ASCII16:18
persia(or rather UTF8)16:18
jonpackardseb128: Thanks! That did the trick. :)16:19
NCommanderthe wiki running slow >.<;16:23
NCommanderI finished the inital report though16:23
seb128yeah, the wiki is always slow apparently16:23
seb128NCommander: you typoed the title ;-)16:25
NCommanderNot a great way to start this off16:25
NCommanderThere won't be an easy way to rename a page?16:26
seb128NCommander: there is16:26
NCommanderI don't see alink16:26
seb128the other actions combo has it16:26
bdmurrayogasawara: I've found a new kernel bug w/o a package should it just go straight to linux?16:36
bdmurrayogasawara: or should a 2.6.22 task be opened?16:36
bdmurrayogasawara: did you see my question?16:48
ogasawarabdmurray: I didn't, what was it?16:49
bdmurrayI saw a gutsy kernel bug w/o a package and wasn't sure if it should go straight to 2.6.22 or linux16:50
ogasawarabdmurray: I'd push it to linux and ask for testing against hardy16:50
bdmurraywell, I've lost the bug now but okay ;)16:51
bdmurraythekorn: your greasemonkey script is really neat17:56
bdmurraymvo: have you seen that tomorrow is a hug day for apt?18:17
mvobdmurray: no, that is nice, I look forward to it18:18
bdmurraymvo: could you look at bug 228127?18:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 228127 in synaptic "phrasing in download dialog is incorrect" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22812718:24
mvobdmurray: sure18:25
bdmurraymvo: its already for fixing! ;)18:26
mvobdmurray: thanks, commited to my main branch18:27
bdmurraymvo: great, thank you!18:31
mvobdmurray: thank you! it will be part of the next regular upload18:33
bdmurraymvo: bug 209049 too18:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 209049 in unattended-upgrades "Spelling Mistake in 50unattended-upgrades" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20904918:34
mvobdmurray: done18:36
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mouzI forwarded a bug upstream, but now i'm not sure how to link to the remote bug. I'm confused by the existence of tasks already and also I'm not sure what is a 'project' and what is a 'distribution' in this context. Would like some help :) bug 239926 Thanks.18:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 239926 in firefox-3.0 "middle button to open a new tab" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23992618:54
persiamouz: To where did you forward it?18:54
mouzpersia: bugzilla.mozilla.org18:55
ubottuMozilla bug 447646 in History "middle button and hold on history to open new tab" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed]18:56
bdmurraymouz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches18:56
persiamouz: OK.  You'll notice that the bug has two tasks: one for Ubuntu, and one for Upstream.18:56
persiaIf you click the little arrow to the left of the Upstream task (the top one), it will provide an entry box for you to put that URL.18:56
mouzpersia: yes (bdmurray i will read it later thanks)18:57
mouzpersia can i trust that small icon left of the first row is saying 'this is an upstream task'?18:58
persiamouz: Not quite.  The distribution tasks are of the form "package (distribution)".  The project tasks are of the form "project name".  Ideally, each project is upstream, although there are a couple exceptions remaining to be cleaned up.18:59
mouzpersia: persia: ok. so just past the URL after 'URL:'?19:01
persiamouz: I believe that should work.  You might also have to adjust the radio button.19:02
persiaCheck the status of the main page and make sure there is a link under "Assigned" to verify.19:02
mouzpersia: yes. thanks. it looks right now.19:02
mouzstill i do not really understand what is a project, what is a distribution...19:04
persiamouz: A project is a collection of code creating one or more associated applications that work in a variety of environments.19:05
persiaExamples include ardour, open office, mozilla, tkgate, etc.19:05
persiaA distribution is a collection of projects and glue to build a complete operating environment for a computer.19:05
persiaWhen tracking bugs, we distinguish between the status in Ubuntu (the distribution) and the status upstream (the project) as something may be fixed in one place first, and someone may need to manually migrate the fix into the other.19:06
mouzpersia: What would be a reason to ever add a distrotask for another distribution then Ubuntu (if there is any)?19:09
persiamouz: Well, it might be that Ubuntu wants to track something in an upstream distribution (e.g. Debian), or a downstream distribution (e.g. Baltix) wants to track Ubuntu.19:11
persiaRemember, while LP is often used for Ubuntu, it is also used for other projects and distributions.19:12
mouzOk I understand now. Thanks persia. bdmurray thanks a lot for the link, I will read it now.19:14
thekornbdmurray, I'm glad you like the gm script,19:26
thekornmy next plan is to add some black/whitelist to this script19:27
thekornbut than it should be complete19:27
bdmurraycool, well let me know and I'll merge it.  If you could update the README too that would be outstanding19:28
thekornyes will do so in the next days19:29
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sectechHas anyone heard of any bugs trying to run intrepid on vbox?20:16
bahadunnsectech: by vbox do you mean virtualbox?20:21
sectechI tried alpha-2 and the nightly... I get a kernel panic each time20:22
jonpackardsectech: see bug 24606720:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot after upgrading to kernel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24606720:35
jonpackard2.6.26-2 and earlier seem to work most of the time20:36
sectechKinda hard to triage when you can't install the distro lol20:37
sectechjonpackard,  Thanks.... I'll tinker around with it a bit later20:38
jonpackardsectech: DO you have a VT-x or AMD-V capable processor? I've heard that enabling that function in virtualbox sometimes allows a successful boot on the latest Intrepid kernel20:51
sectechjonpackard, I tried with that option on.... It crawls.20:56
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jonpackardsectech: weird.. isn't that supposed to improve the virtualization performance and compatibility?21:21
bdmurraynellery: hey there21:25
nellerybdmurray, hi21:25
bdmurrayHave you seen this debian-bug-search script I wrote?  I think it'd be handy for the bug day21:26
nellerybdmurray, I believe I saw it on planet21:27
nelleryI'll take a look at it21:27
bdmurraycool, I thought it might deserve a blip on the targetted bug list21:28
bdmurrayOh, by the way I usually sort the New bugs by highest number first21:28
bdmurraySo the "fresh" ones are at the top21:28
nellerybdmurray, woops, I think I forgot to put the dash in -nr21:29
nelleryI probably did --sort:nr21:29
nelleryI'll change that21:29
bdmurraynellery: cool, thanks!21:31
nelleryno problem21:34
greg-gooo, new LP coming out?21:38
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jthan_I just joined Launchpad and the Ubuntu BugSquad, I haven't really gotten into any programming yet but I'm interested in it. How much would I need to know before I begin with a mentor?21:51
Iulianjthan_: First of all you don't need to know any programming language to work with bugs but if you know it will help you.21:54
jthan_lulian: what is required then?21:54
jthan_lulian: I would LIKE to get into programming though, but anywhere is a start.21:55
Iulianjthan_: Well, just read our wiki page (see the topic). If you have any more questions, feel free to ask here.21:55
Iulianjthan_: This channel is for Ubuntu bugs only.21:55
Iulianbdmurray: ping21:57
bdmurrayIulian: pong21:58
Iulianbdmurray: Hi there. My membership for bug control team is about to expire in a few days. Could you please renew it?21:59
_gunni_Is there a possiblity to push a bug? There is a bug, assigned, confirmed, and patch is inside the launpad entries (Just one line of code), but isnt fixed for some time.22:02
Iulian_gunni_: Which bug?22:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 204624 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "CAPI not working correctly on Ubuntu hardy (8.04)" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:07
_gunni_Iulian: Patch is in this post, just to make it easier: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/204624/comments/1122:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 204624 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "CAPI not working correctly on Ubuntu hardy (8.04)" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:13
bdmurrayIulian: you are all set22:14
bdmurrayogasawara: any ideas about 21481?22:32
ogasawarabdmurray: whoa, 2.6.1222:33
bdmurrayeh, I think it has been hijacked22:33
bdmurraystarting around comment 1622:35
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* calc hugs the people who wrote the greasemonkey scripts, they rock! :)23:54
* greg-g needs to remember to update those soon, he's must be broken, because everyone has 0 karma :)23:57
bdmurrayYeah, I fixed that last week23:57
bdmurrayYou might as well wait until after the next roll out though as I suspect some stuff will break again23:57
greg-gyeah, figured23:57
greg-gi haven't been doing a ton of triaging lately anyways23:58
sbeattiebdmurray: did you push your mutt scripts to bzr somewhere?23:59
bdmurraynot yet23:59
bdmurraysbeattie: is there one in particular you are intereseted in?23:59

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