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slangasekhi folks, candidate images are trickling in for intrepid alpha 3: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all08:10
stgrabercool, should they work in kvm this time ?08:15
slangasekstgraber: I think so; at least part of that was a kvm bug though, and I'm not sure if that's made it as an SRU yet08:33
slangaseklooks like yes, kvm did get the SRU done for this08:46
* stgraber takes Ubuntu alternate i38608:48
slangasekhmm, xubuntu has some livefs build issues; probably means the alternates are also not installable08:49
stgraberslangasek: at least now I can boot i386 images in kvm, so that's one problem solved. Next one is X not working08:49
slangasekwhich way is it not working? :)08:49
stgraberwith alpha-2, it was just not starting so you get a black screen :(08:50
stgraberI hope this one is solved as well, will know in ~30 min when my first install is done08:50
slangasekah, ok08:51
slangasekright, I guess you didn't get to X that fast in an alternate ;)08:51
stgraberhmm, the manual install bug I discovered last time doesn't seem to be fixed08:55
* stgraber looks at LP08:55
stgraberoh, we don't have a bug for it :( maybe we should08:56
davmor2slangasek: we got issues with monitors with incorrect EDID's too.  You just get no screen :(  Also there seems to be no way to drop into any kind of safe mode :(08:58
slangasekdavmor2: bug report?08:58
davmor2doing one shortly if it doesn't exist08:59
stgraberslangasek: looking at my last standalone LTSP tests, I wouldn't expect it to work. (some dpkg-divert problems IIRC)09:02
slangasekstgraber: "it"?09:03
slangasekdo we have a test case for that, somewhere?09:03
stgraberUbuntu Alternate => Install (LTSP server)09:04
davmor2so what cd's are working at the moment?09:04
stgraberI'm doing a standard Ubuntu alternate install now, this one should work :)09:05
stgraberand I'm doing LTSP at the same time to confirm that it doesn't09:06
davmor2slangasek: are the live cd's building yet?09:08
slangasekalready built and posted.09:08
davmor2cool you mean we might have some working ones this time?09:09
stgraberI also take Desktop amd64 to see if X works in kvm this time09:10
davmor2just running the dl-iso script :)09:14
slangasekdavmor2: the ubiquity issues should have been sorted last week; if folks test & report any bugs early in the day today, we should definitely be able to get things working in time09:15
davmor2slangasek: I'll start testing in about 15 mins09:16
davmor2is that early enough?09:16
stgraberI'll have desktop in < 2 min, cdimage is fast today09:18
davmor2slangasek: bug 251059 if you get bryce to have a quick look and let me know any info he needs for it I'll get it to him tomorrow now probably.  But I think you're in a similar time zone as he is09:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251059 in xorg "Intrepid: Monitors with incorrect EDID have no display and no safe mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25105909:21
slangasekcorrect, if he knows what's good for him he's already asleep at this point ;)09:21
stgraberBooting Ubuntu desktop amd64 now09:24
* davmor2 starts testing :)09:24
stgraberargh, no X in KVM :(09:26
davmor2hw test on it's way09:29
stgrabercool because I no longer have testing hw :)09:29
davmor2I got a new monitor to combat the issues I was having but I can drop the old one in for bug reporting :)09:30
stgraberwell, I could probably install Hardy in a VM, then install vmware in it and do testing with vmware ? :)09:30
davmor2stgraber: can you not try 32 bit in vbox09:30
stgraberhmm, yes. I'll try to install VB on Intrepid, not sure how it'll work with the new kernel.09:31
* davmor2 currently looking at a flashing cursor and now the text start scrolling09:31
davmor2slangasek: No splash any more is that known?09:32
stgraberhmm, it tries to install a 2.6.26-3 module when I'm using -4 and it doesn't seem to be using dkms :(09:32
slangaseksplash as in usplash?09:32
stgraberI'll try the nonfree one09:32
stgraberslangasek: yep, no usplash for me in KVM either09:32
slangaseknot something I was aware of, no09:32
davmor2slangasek: Okay I'll bug it in a second then09:33
davmor2you don't get the nice progress bar09:33
davmor2Yay live desktop :)09:34
* davmor2 goes for the install09:34
davmor2map is better09:35
davmor2long gap for partitioner to come up :)09:36
davmor2ubiquity running09:39
stgraberhmm, booting an installed system is even worse :) You don't get usplash but you don't get any other boot message either09:49
stgraberso as I had LVM crypto setup I wasn't able to enter the passkey until I removed splash from the kernel boot parameters09:49
davmor2No sound09:50
stgraberbug 24903709:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249037 in usplash "After upgrade, nothing shows up on screen during and after boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24903709:51
stgraberlooks like our current bug09:52
liwI keep unsubscribing from all test cases in the tracker and later finding that I'm subscribed to some again, when the tracker mails me about new builds -- what's going on?09:52
liwalso, having a captcha for logging in is a) unnecessary and b) annoying, could that be removed?09:52
stgraberliw: you are still subscribe to two upgrade tests09:53
liwnot according to the web interface09:53
liwI just unsubscribed from a bunch, it now shows me an empty list09:53
liwthat gives me 404, the s at the end is superfluous09:54
liwah, no, I'm looking at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/user/subscription09:54
liwwhy does that page not show my subscriptions?09:55
stgraberbecause we aren't testing Xubuntu upgrade at the moment09:55
stgraberdavmor2: no sound and no mouse here (in kvm)09:56
liwI should still be able to see all my subscriptions to be able to unsubscribe, shouldn't I?09:56
stgraberhmm, no sound is just pulse's fault, so sound is working but no mouse09:56
stgraberliw: yes, that's in the roadmap for qatracker-ng ...09:57
liwook, then I'll unsubscribe from those when they are tested09:57
davmor2schwuk: How's your first day of testing Dude?10:03
davmor2slangasek: installer isn't completing cuts off at 86%10:08
davmor2is the a debug option?10:09
davmor2stgraber: No go with Ubiquity is there a debug option?10:11
stgrabersudo ubiquity --debug ?? I'm not sure but I remember something like this10:12
stgraberLanguage: 10 languagechooser/language-name doesn't exist10:22
stgraberI have that on the "Ready to install" screeen of ubiquity10:22
stgrabernot sure it'll cause anything to fail, but shouldn't be there anyway10:22
stgraberhmm, ubiquity just exitted instead of asking for reboot ??10:30
stgraberlet's see if the installed system works10:30
davmor2stgraber: it doesn't10:31
stgraberright, no grub installed10:31
davmor2tried it it exits before grub is installed10:31
stgraberslangasek: ^^ RC bug10:31
davmor2stgraber: it doesn't do the hw detection either10:32
stgraberI started it from the console and didn't see a crash, it just closed ...10:33
stgraberdid you try running it with --debug ?10:33
davmor2running now10:33
davmor287% and vanish10:34
stgraberok, I marked Ubuntu desktop i386 -> erase disk as failed10:34
davmor2where will the log be?10:34
stgraberand no error or debug message in the console ?10:34
stgraberI'd expect it to be in the console or somewhere in /var/log/10:34
davmor2transfers talk to #ubuntu-installer10:35
stgraberslangasek: bug 25108910:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251089 in ubiquity "Ubiquity crashes at 87%" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25108910:55
davmor2stgraber: was this on 32bit?10:57
stgraberI can't have X to work on amd64 with kvm10:57
davmor2okay I'll try 64 bit too10:57
davmor2stgraber: I'll try a 32 bit kub after too to check for gtk/qt issues10:59
davmor2stgraber: actually can you try 32bit Kub in vm and see if the same thing happen while I try 64bit Ubuntu on hw11:01
davmor2cool ta11:01
stgraberdavmor2: kubuntu fails at the first step of the installer :)11:15
stgrabercan't generate the list of available languages11:15
stgraberI also have a traceback for it, so I'll just file another bug report :)11:15
stgraberbug 25109711:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251097 in ubiquity "Ubiquity fails on the language selection page with Kubuntu desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25109711:19
davmor2stgraber: same on 64bit :(11:22
stgrabercan you try kubuntu amd64 just to be sure ? as it's not the same bug11:23
davmor2stgraber: can you try an Xubuntu I'm guessing the same thing will happen11:23
davmor2stgraber: no probs11:24
stgraberxubuntu is not on the tracker yet11:25
davmor2cody isn't online yet so I can't kick him either ;)11:26
davmor2whose incharge of the releases while slangasek sleeps11:26
davmor2is it like seb128 or cjwatson?11:28
davmor2I think they need to know about the Ubuquity issue sooner rather than latter11:28
davmor2ubiquity even11:29
stgraberjust poke #ubuntu-release they should be in there :)11:29
davmor2cool :)11:32
* davmor2 burns amd 64 version of Kubuntu11:33
davmor2stgraber: just confirmed 25109711:58
davmor2stgraber: have you tried any of the alternative cd's yet?12:01
stgraberI tried ubuntu alternate amd6412:01
stgraberLTSP and manual failed but erase disk LVM crypto worked12:01
stgraberi386 that was12:01
davmor2cool so there are some cd's we can test then :)12:08
davmor2stgraber: do you still have access to the Kubuntu vm?  If so can you fire it up and try the printing dialogue?12:11
stgraberbooting it12:13
stgraberok, opened kate then the printing dialog12:15
davmor2stgraber: no sorry just try opening up printing in apps system12:17
davmor2does it work for you?12:20
cjwatsondavmor2: I saw the highlight, but I'm off sick today with a fever, so I'm probably not the best person to look at this - grab evand when he wakes up, he's UTC-412:21
stgraberdavmor2: appears in the task bar but nothing opening12:22
davmor2cjwatson: thanks12:24
davmor2cjwatson: Hope you get better soon :)12:25
davmor2stgraber: I'm writing a bug for it I'll give you the bug details after12:25
cjwatsondavmor2: I've committed a fix for bug 251089, which was easy, but 251097 would require some actual thought12:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251089 in ubiquity "Ubiquity crashes at 87%" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25108912:26
davmor2stgraber: bug 25111112:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251111 in system-config-printer-kde "Intrepid: Kubuntu printer dialogue doesn't open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25111112:29
stgraberconfirmed and traceback attached12:34
stgraberset priority to high, looks like missing dependency12:34
davmor2So stgraber looks like only testing the alternatives again then?12:39
davmor2I'll get started on them after lunch then :)12:42
stgraberI'll continue Ubuntu Alternate i386 and start Ubuntu server (both i386 and amd64)12:43
stgraberI'll suggest you take Ubuntu Alternate amd64 and then Kubuntu12:43
davmor2I'll start on the Kubuntu's and meet you in the middle.  The edubuntu add on cd is it specific to Ubuntu or should it work on Kubuntu too?12:45
stgraberit should work with Kubuntu too but may need internet access, when used with Ubuntu everything should be on the CD12:46
stgraberin fact most of our edu softwares are kdeedu :)12:46
davmor2I know and on the netboot cds one of the options was edubuntu kde12:47
cr3hi folks14:27
stgraberhi cr314:29
stgraberdavmor2: Alternate i386 is done (only remaining is rescue, I'll do it later), I'm now doing Ubuntu Server amd6414:29
stgraberdavmor2: I expect at least one fail as installing all tasks at once fail, I've not found the gulty one yet though14:30
stgraberdavmor2: you doing kubuntu ?14:30
davmor2stgraber: Yes I just burnt both i386 and amd64 and am starting with whole disc's on both then I'll swap machines for auto resize14:31
stgraberI suspect a conflict between the LAMP and Mail server task. Installing both individually seems to work but LAMP seems to depend on exim and Mail server installs postfix, so create a conflict there.14:35
davmor2stgraber: lamp hasn't been updated then.  As far as I recall from talking to colleagues debian use exim by default whereas Ubuntu use postfix.  But I could be wrong14:39
stgraberJul 23 13:52:26 in-target: The following packages have unmet dependencies:14:53
stgraberJul 23 13:52:26 in-target:   exim4-config: Conflicts: postfix but 2.5.2-1 is to be installed14:54
stgraberJul 23 13:52:26 in-target:   exim4-daemon-light: Conflicts: mail-transport-agent14:54
stgraberJul 23 13:52:26 in-target:   postfix: Conflicts: mail-transport-agent14:54
davmor2:) thank god these are alphas :)14:57
davmor2stgraber: Kubuntu is having issues post install but the installer is okay :)15:52
davmor2on both15:52
davmor2BRB just need to nip out for a minute15:56
davmor2Back :)16:11
cody-somervilleWhere are the Xubuntu images on the iso tracker?16:22
sbeattieow, you guys are hitting the rsync server hard, I'm getting under 20kB/s from it.16:43
slangasekwould it help if I start marking a bunch of images as failed? :P16:44
sbeattieHeh, probably.16:44
stgraberslangasek: I guess you can mark all desktop images as needing rebuild :)16:51
slangasekdid already16:51
stgraberslangasek: did you see bug 249037 ?16:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249037 in usplash "After upgrade, nothing shows up on screen during and after boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24903716:57
stgraberit doesn't exactly match what I see but davmor2, mdz and me had no usplash after installing intrepid16:57
slangasekstgraber: saw it on -devel just now yes, thans16:58
stgraberthat's a serious problem when using the encrypted file system as you don't get prompted for the password16:58
stgraberand then you can't boot your computer except if you remove "splash" from the boot parameters16:58
slangasekis there reason to think it's a usplash bug, vs. a kernel bug?16:58
stgrabermight be kernel too, my installs were done in kvm and davmor2 did it on real HW16:59
slangasekstgraber: did you configure vesafb by hand at all?16:59
stgraberno, I'll try with vga=791 and see if that workarounds the problem17:00
stgraberI get a 1024x768 black screen17:00
stgraberso vga=791 works fine but nothing is displayed :(17:01
sorenDo any of you happen to have a cirrus graphics card?17:01
stgraberslangasek: that's a kernel bug !!!17:01
stgraberslangasek: booting with vga=791 and no "splash" does exactly the same as with "splash"17:02
stgraberso looks like a framebuffer bug or something like that17:02
slangasekcould you repeat this on #ubuntu-devel for BenC?17:03
slangasekfwiw, alternates are going to be respun as well, for fixes to lrm and usplash18:57
slangasekedubuntu won't be touched, someone can go ahead and test that one ;)18:58
davmor2slangasek: when will the new iso's be up then?21:07
slangasekdavmor2: I'm about to start another run of image builds; it generally takes about 2h from the time a bug fix is uploaded to the time CDs including the fix can be available21:08
davmor2Cool thanks for the heads up.  Looks like I'll be testing them tomorrow :)21:09
slangasekwell, that's 2h counting from about 2h ago21:11
slangasekthe first of the updated CDs will be available in 15min21:12
davmor2slangasek: that's better I can get some tests done tonight then :)21:14
slangasekupdated ubuntu alternates are up (modulo mirror propagation)21:18
slangasek... but the amd64 one is oversized, gar21:18
davmor2typical :(21:21
slangasekby 1 MB, gar gar21:22
slangasek< 1MB21:22
slangasekall accounted for by l-r-m21:23
* slangasek looks for fat to trim, then21:23
stgraberhmm, so the only thing that can be tested is Ubuntu alternate ? :)21:42
davmor232 bit21:46
slangasekstgraber: sorry, been working on fixing the alternate oversize issue so neglected to post the others21:50
slangasekok, posted now; server and ubuntu desktop still rebuilding21:53
slangasekserver and desktop built & posted22:01
slangasekubuntu alternate squeaked down to size; posting now22:03
slangasekposted.  that's all the images that are in the queue at the moment.22:05
slangasekeveryone fall asleep on me? :)22:21
stgraberno, I'm doing alternate i38622:22
davmor2I'm still waiting for the iso's to dl22:23
mathiazslangasek: scheduling -server tests22:29
davmor2slangasek: what about xubuntu, is that up yet?22:32
davmor2So let me get this straight everything can be tested again now is that right?22:41
stgrabermathiaz: I don't know if you saw what I said some hours ago in -server, installing tasks LAMP + Mail server fail because of a conflict between exim and postfix. That's not part of any testcase as we are supposed to test them individually but in case you want to do quicker testing, avoid selecting those two at the same time :)22:41
stgraberdavmor2: that's the idea yes :)22:41
davmor2Right I'll get started then what you covering at the moment I seem to of got a t'internet speed boost22:42
stgraberI have ubuntu alternate i386 installing here (slowly ...), then I'll do edubuntu i38622:43
davmor2Right I'll hit the 64 bit then22:43
slangasekdavmor2: xubuntu has livefs build failures that cody is going to look into this evening22:43
davmor2slangasek: Cool22:44
cr3stgraber: what bug did you report about persisting sessions across reboots?22:46
cr3stgraber: see revision 2 for the code, that was hairier than I expected22:48
mathiazstgraber: hmmm. I didn't notice that - did you report a bug ? It's probably related to the install Recommends by default22:49
cr3schwuk: dude, we now have session persistence! this is particularly relevant to us because you won't need to login anymore after restarting the daemon22:51
cr3stgraber: ^^^22:52
davmor2slangasek: I thought you said usplash was fixed ?22:55
slangasekdavmor2: er, I can't exactly guarantee that a package is bug free in every environment22:55
slangasekdavmor2: the bug that was breaking usplash on all systems is fixed22:55
davmor2Live 64 bit still no usplash#22:55
slangasekok; livefs has the old version of usplash-theme-ubuntu, investigating now22:57
slangasekogasawara: can http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/weatherreport.html be switched to point at intrepid again? :)22:57
stgrabercr3: I don't think I filed one ... do you want one so you can close it ? :)22:58
ogasawaraslangasek: sure22:58
stgrabermathiaz: it's in my list of bugs to report (I tend do to that by batch) and I wasn't able to find the source of the problem when I tried simulating it locally22:58
stgrabermathiaz: http://www.stgraber.org/download/server-task-conflict22:59
mathiazstgraber: great - thanks23:03
cr3stgraber: nah, all good :)23:03
davmor2stgraber: what was the usplash bug number?23:04
slangasekdavmor2: ok, marking the desktop CDs as disabled for rebuild (again, sigh)23:09
slangasekdavmor2: I have to wait for another publishing run before I can get a good build23:09
davmor2it is an issue then23:09
stgraberdavmor2: that was bug 25122723:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251227 in usplash "No usable theme found for 640x480" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25122723:10
slangasekdavmor2: yes, as I said, "livefs has the old version of usplash-theme-ubuntu"23:11
davmor2okay cool so alt's only tonight then?23:11
slangasekdavmor2: unless you want to wait another hour or more, yes ;)23:12
slangasekdavmor2: the current desktop images are a good base for rsyncing the next one, the changes should be minimal23:13
davmor2I'm already tired so I think I'll try for another alternative test and call it a night thanks.23:13
davmor2slangasek: I use the the dl-iso rsync script anway :)23:14
davmor2s/anway/anyway :023:14
davmor2stgraber: how was your i386 test going?23:16
stgraberinstalled fine, seems to boot fine too23:17
* davmor2 burns 64bit alt23:17
slangasekstgraber: sweet :)23:19
slangasekwe're already ahead of the curve then ;P23:19
davmor2slangasek: is this the curve to hell ;)23:20
stgrabersession opened fine, so that's two less tests23:21
davmor264 bit live session works23:22
davmor2only usplash that doesn't23:22
slangasekit's not worth testing ubiquity though, because the livefs build failure means the ubiquity fixes aren't in yet either23:23
davmor2although I hadn't started ubiquity at the time so don't know if that is fixed :(23:23
slangasekit's not23:24
davmor2stgraber: are you going to bed now?23:25
mathiazsoren: is virtio net supported in intrepid ?23:27
stgraberdavmor2: I'm doing some Canonical-related things so I can work tomorrow :) but indeed going to bed seems like a good idea23:27
mathiazsoren: I've tried to boot one of the server isos in a kvm and it fails staying that it didn't detect any network interface23:27
mathiazsoren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29764/ <- dumpxml of the guest23:28
sorenmathiaz: Is virtio-net loaded?23:29
mathiazsoren: nope23:29
sorenmathiaz: Could you put lspci output somewhere?23:29
sorenmathiaz: Hm.. I guess you can't :)23:29
sorenIs virtio-net available in the guest at least?23:29
mathiazsoren: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mathiaz/lspci.png23:30
sorenThat's odd. Can you load virtio-net?23:30
mathiazsoren: yes23:31
sorenAnd that helps?23:31
ogasawaraslangasek: weatherreport should be pointing to intrepid now23:31
slangasekogasawara: awesome, thanks :)23:31
mathiazsoren: hm - not really23:33
mathiazsoren: I've stepped back in the installer and went back to network detection23:33
mathiazsoren: it still fails, even if virtio-net is loaded23:33
mathiazsoren: however I'm not sure if the installer would correctly work if it could re-detect the network card23:34
sorenmathiaz: Is it showing up in ifconfig -a?23:35
mathiazsoren: hm - ifconfig is not found23:36
sorenIt works fine with the server kernel in intrepid.23:36
sorenip link, specifically.23:36
mathiazsoren: only the loopback interface is listed23:37
sorenWell, I'll have to look tomorrow. I'm not really here right now :)23:37
slangasekogasawara: if there could be a way to associate certain ISOs with certain dists... gobuntu and kubuntu-kde4 don't apply at all for intrepid23:38
slangasekogasawara: actually, they shouldn't apply for hardy.2 either, so maybe it's fine to just take them out now23:38
mathiazsoren: all right - should I file a bug ?23:38
ogasawaraslangasek: ok23:38
sorenmathiaz: please do.23:39
davmor2slangasek: that's a point should there be a new completely free test case?23:42
slangasekdavmor2: sorry, what do you mean?23:43
slangasekdavmor2: gobuntu has never been handled on the ISO tracker (this generation of it); I think there /is/ a a test case published for only-free-software, isn't there?23:43
davmor2Gobuntu is gone but isn't there an option to only use free software now in ubuntu?23:43
slangasekthere is23:44
slangasekI think it would be good to have that as a test case, yes23:44
slangasekand I don't see one currently on the tracker, so someone would need to add it23:44
davmor2heno/stgraber or someone else then :)23:45
* sbeattie looks to seee if he's capable of adding it.23:47
slangaseksbeattie: are you volunteering to also write the test case description first? :)23:48
davmor2iso tracker just exploded ;)23:48
stgraberjust slow here23:49
davmor2slangasek: it'll follow the existing test cases for the most part.23:49
davmor2So I could probably throw one together tomorrow23:50
davmor2slangasek: Alt 64 has splash :)23:50
slangasekthanks for confirming that it works for you as well :)23:51
sbeattiemmm, looks like adding a "free software only" install tracker is a job for stgraber23:52
davmor2sbeattie: Phew save from a tracker explosion :)23:53
sbeattiedavmor2: I'm sure I can find some other way to royally mess things up.23:53
davmor2sbeattie: and of course if not it's your fault anyway right :)23:54
davmor2slangasek: still no sound issues with pulse I'm guessing23:55
slangasekdavmor2: can you try sudo rmmod snd_pcsp, then restart your session and see if that fixes it?23:57
davmor22 ticks23:57
davmor2need to do it in safe mode it's being used23:59
slangasekwell, killall pulseaudio && sudo rmmod snd_pcsp23:59
slangasekshould be enough23:59

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