=== fdd is now known as mem === mem is now known as core0 === core0 is now known as fdd [08:10] hi folks, candidate images are trickling in for intrepid alpha 3: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all [08:15] cool, should they work in kvm this time ? [08:33] stgraber: I think so; at least part of that was a kvm bug though, and I'm not sure if that's made it as an SRU yet [08:46] looks like yes, kvm did get the SRU done for this [08:48] * stgraber takes Ubuntu alternate i386 [08:49] hmm, xubuntu has some livefs build issues; probably means the alternates are also not installable [08:49] slangasek: at least now I can boot i386 images in kvm, so that's one problem solved. Next one is X not working [08:49] which way is it not working? :) [08:50] with alpha-2, it was just not starting so you get a black screen :( [08:50] I hope this one is solved as well, will know in ~30 min when my first install is done [08:51] ah, ok [08:51] right, I guess you didn't get to X that fast in an alternate ;) [08:55] hmm, the manual install bug I discovered last time doesn't seem to be fixed [08:55] * stgraber looks at LP [08:56] oh, we don't have a bug for it :( maybe we should [08:58] slangasek: we got issues with monitors with incorrect EDID's too. You just get no screen :( Also there seems to be no way to drop into any kind of safe mode :( [08:58] davmor2: bug report? [08:59] doing one shortly if it doesn't exist [08:59] ok [09:02] slangasek: looking at my last standalone LTSP tests, I wouldn't expect it to work. (some dpkg-divert problems IIRC) [09:03] stgraber: "it"? [09:03] LTSP [09:03] ok [09:03] do we have a test case for that, somewhere? [09:04] yes [09:04] Ubuntu Alternate => Install (LTSP server) [09:04] so what cd's are working at the moment? [09:05] I'm doing a standard Ubuntu alternate install now, this one should work :) [09:06] and I'm doing LTSP at the same time to confirm that it doesn't [09:08] slangasek: are the live cd's building yet? [09:08] already built and posted. [09:09] cool you mean we might have some working ones this time? [09:10] I also take Desktop amd64 to see if X works in kvm this time [09:14] just running the dl-iso script :) [09:15] davmor2: the ubiquity issues should have been sorted last week; if folks test & report any bugs early in the day today, we should definitely be able to get things working in time [09:16] slangasek: I'll start testing in about 15 mins [09:16] is that early enough? [09:18] I'll have desktop in < 2 min, cdimage is fast today [09:21] slangasek: bug 251059 if you get bryce to have a quick look and let me know any info he needs for it I'll get it to him tomorrow now probably. But I think you're in a similar time zone as he is [09:21] Launchpad bug 251059 in xorg "Intrepid: Monitors with incorrect EDID have no display and no safe mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251059 [09:21] correct, if he knows what's good for him he's already asleep at this point ;) [09:24] Booting Ubuntu desktop amd64 now [09:24] * davmor2 starts testing :) [09:26] argh, no X in KVM :( [09:29] hw test on it's way [09:29] cool because I no longer have testing hw :) [09:30] I got a new monitor to combat the issues I was having but I can drop the old one in for bug reporting :) [09:30] well, I could probably install Hardy in a VM, then install vmware in it and do testing with vmware ? :) [09:30] stgraber: can you not try 32 bit in vbox [09:31] hmm, yes. I'll try to install VB on Intrepid, not sure how it'll work with the new kernel. [09:31] * davmor2 currently looking at a flashing cursor and now the text start scrolling [09:32] slangasek: No splash any more is that known? [09:32] hmm, it tries to install a 2.6.26-3 module when I'm using -4 and it doesn't seem to be using dkms :( [09:32] splash as in usplash? [09:32] I'll try the nonfree one [09:32] slangasek: yep, no usplash for me in KVM either [09:32] not something I was aware of, no [09:33] slangasek: Okay I'll bug it in a second then [09:33] you don't get the nice progress bar [09:34] Yay live desktop :) [09:34] * davmor2 goes for the install [09:35] map is better [09:36] long gap for partitioner to come up :) [09:39] ubiquity running [09:49] hmm, booting an installed system is even worse :) You don't get usplash but you don't get any other boot message either [09:49] so as I had LVM crypto setup I wasn't able to enter the passkey until I removed splash from the kernel boot parameters [09:50] No sound [09:51] bug 249037 [09:51] Launchpad bug 249037 in usplash "After upgrade, nothing shows up on screen during and after boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249037 [09:52] looks like our current bug [09:52] I keep unsubscribing from all test cases in the tracker and later finding that I'm subscribed to some again, when the tracker mails me about new builds -- what's going on? [09:52] also, having a captcha for logging in is a) unnecessary and b) annoying, could that be removed? [09:53] liw: you are still subscribe to two upgrade tests [09:53] not according to the web interface [09:53] I just unsubscribed from a bunch, it now shows me an empty list [09:54] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/subscriptions [09:54] that gives me 404, the s at the end is superfluous [09:54] ah, no, I'm looking at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/user/subscription [09:55] why does that page not show my subscriptions? [09:55] because we aren't testing Xubuntu upgrade at the moment [09:56] davmor2: no sound and no mouse here (in kvm) [09:56] I should still be able to see all my subscriptions to be able to unsubscribe, shouldn't I? [09:56] hmm, no sound is just pulse's fault, so sound is working but no mouse [09:57] liw: yes, that's in the roadmap for qatracker-ng ... [09:57] ook, then I'll unsubscribe from those when they are tested [10:03] schwuk: How's your first day of testing Dude? [10:08] slangasek: installer isn't completing cuts off at 86% [10:09] is the a debug option? [10:11] stgraber: No go with Ubiquity is there a debug option? [10:12] sudo ubiquity --debug ?? I'm not sure but I remember something like this [10:13] cool [10:22] Language: 10 languagechooser/language-name doesn't exist [10:22] I have that on the "Ready to install" screeen of ubiquity [10:22] not sure it'll cause anything to fail, but shouldn't be there anyway [10:30] hmm, ubiquity just exitted instead of asking for reboot ?? [10:30] let's see if the installed system works [10:31] stgraber: it doesn't [10:31] right, no grub installed [10:31] tried it it exits before grub is installed [10:31] slangasek: ^^ RC bug [10:32] stgraber: it doesn't do the hw detection either [10:33] I started it from the console and didn't see a crash, it just closed ... [10:33] did you try running it with --debug ? [10:33] running now [10:33] 82% [10:34] 87% and vanish [10:34] ok, I marked Ubuntu desktop i386 -> erase disk as failed [10:34] where will the log be? [10:34] and no error or debug message in the console ? [10:34] no [10:34] I'd expect it to be in the console or somewhere in /var/log/ [10:35] transfers talk to #ubuntu-installer [10:55] slangasek: bug 251089 [10:55] Launchpad bug 251089 in ubiquity "Ubiquity crashes at 87%" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251089 [10:57] stgraber: was this on 32bit? [10:57] yep [10:57] I can't have X to work on amd64 with kvm [10:57] okay I'll try 64 bit too [10:59] stgraber: I'll try a 32 bit kub after too to check for gtk/qt issues [11:01] stgraber: actually can you try 32bit Kub in vm and see if the same thing happen while I try 64bit Ubuntu on hw [11:01] sure [11:01] cool ta [11:15] davmor2: kubuntu fails at the first step of the installer :) [11:15] can't generate the list of available languages [11:15] D'oh [11:15] I also have a traceback for it, so I'll just file another bug report :) [11:19] bug 251097 [11:19] Launchpad bug 251097 in ubiquity "Ubiquity fails on the language selection page with Kubuntu desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251097 [11:21] 78% [11:22] stgraber: same on 64bit :( [11:23] ok [11:23] can you try kubuntu amd64 just to be sure ? as it's not the same bug [11:23] stgraber: can you try an Xubuntu I'm guessing the same thing will happen [11:24] stgraber: no probs [11:25] xubuntu is not on the tracker yet [11:26] cody isn't online yet so I can't kick him either ;) [11:26] whose incharge of the releases while slangasek sleeps [11:28] is it like seb128 or cjwatson? [11:28] I think they need to know about the Ubuquity issue sooner rather than latter [11:29] ubiquity even [11:29] just poke #ubuntu-release they should be in there :) [11:32] cool :) [11:33] * davmor2 burns amd 64 version of Kubuntu [11:58] stgraber: just confirmed 251097 [12:01] stgraber: have you tried any of the alternative cd's yet? [12:01] I tried ubuntu alternate amd64 [12:01] LTSP and manual failed but erase disk LVM crypto worked [12:01] i386 that was [12:08] cool so there are some cd's we can test then :) [12:11] stgraber: do you still have access to the Kubuntu vm? If so can you fire it up and try the printing dialogue? [12:13] booting it [12:15] ok, opened kate then the printing dialog [12:17] stgraber: no sorry just try opening up printing in apps system [12:20] does it work for you? [12:21] davmor2: I saw the highlight, but I'm off sick today with a fever, so I'm probably not the best person to look at this - grab evand when he wakes up, he's UTC-4 [12:22] davmor2: appears in the task bar but nothing opening [12:24] cjwatson: thanks [12:25] cjwatson: Hope you get better soon :) [12:25] stgraber: I'm writing a bug for it I'll give you the bug details after [12:26] davmor2: I've committed a fix for bug 251089, which was easy, but 251097 would require some actual thought [12:26] Launchpad bug 251089 in ubiquity "Ubiquity crashes at 87%" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251089 [12:29] stgraber: bug 251111 [12:29] Launchpad bug 251111 in system-config-printer-kde "Intrepid: Kubuntu printer dialogue doesn't open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251111 [12:34] confirmed and traceback attached [12:34] set priority to high, looks like missing dependency [12:39] So stgraber looks like only testing the alternatives again then? [12:41] yes [12:42] I'll get started on them after lunch then :) [12:43] I'll continue Ubuntu Alternate i386 and start Ubuntu server (both i386 and amd64) [12:43] I'll suggest you take Ubuntu Alternate amd64 and then Kubuntu [12:45] I'll start on the Kubuntu's and meet you in the middle. The edubuntu add on cd is it specific to Ubuntu or should it work on Kubuntu too? [12:46] it should work with Kubuntu too but may need internet access, when used with Ubuntu everything should be on the CD [12:46] in fact most of our edu softwares are kdeedu :) [12:47] I know and on the netboot cds one of the options was edubuntu kde [14:27] hi folks [14:29] hello [14:29] hi cr3 [14:29] davmor2: Alternate i386 is done (only remaining is rescue, I'll do it later), I'm now doing Ubuntu Server amd64 [14:30] davmor2: I expect at least one fail as installing all tasks at once fail, I've not found the gulty one yet though [14:30] davmor2: you doing kubuntu ? [14:31] stgraber: Yes I just burnt both i386 and amd64 and am starting with whole disc's on both then I'll swap machines for auto resize [14:35] I suspect a conflict between the LAMP and Mail server task. Installing both individually seems to work but LAMP seems to depend on exim and Mail server installs postfix, so create a conflict there. [14:39] stgraber: lamp hasn't been updated then. As far as I recall from talking to colleagues debian use exim by default whereas Ubuntu use postfix. But I could be wrong [14:53] Jul 23 13:52:26 in-target: The following packages have unmet dependencies: [14:54] Jul 23 13:52:26 in-target: exim4-config: Conflicts: postfix but 2.5.2-1 is to be installed [14:54] Jul 23 13:52:26 in-target: exim4-daemon-light: Conflicts: mail-transport-agent [14:54] Jul 23 13:52:26 in-target: postfix: Conflicts: mail-transport-agent [14:57] :) thank god these are alphas :) [15:52] stgraber: Kubuntu is having issues post install but the installer is okay :) [15:52] on both [15:56] BRB just need to nip out for a minute [16:11] Back :) [16:22] Where are the Xubuntu images on the iso tracker? [16:43] ow, you guys are hitting the rsync server hard, I'm getting under 20kB/s from it. [16:44] would it help if I start marking a bunch of images as failed? :P [16:44] Heh, probably. [16:51] slangasek: I guess you can mark all desktop images as needing rebuild :) [16:51] did already [16:57] slangasek: did you see bug 249037 ? [16:57] Launchpad bug 249037 in usplash "After upgrade, nothing shows up on screen during and after boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249037 [16:57] it doesn't exactly match what I see but davmor2, mdz and me had no usplash after installing intrepid [16:58] stgraber: saw it on -devel just now yes, thans [16:58] thanks [16:58] that's a serious problem when using the encrypted file system as you don't get prompted for the password [16:58] and then you can't boot your computer except if you remove "splash" from the boot parameters [16:58] right [16:58] is there reason to think it's a usplash bug, vs. a kernel bug? [16:59] might be kernel too, my installs were done in kvm and davmor2 did it on real HW [16:59] stgraber: did you configure vesafb by hand at all? [17:00] no, I'll try with vga=791 and see if that workarounds the problem [17:00] doesn't [17:00] I get a 1024x768 black screen [17:01] so vga=791 works fine but nothing is displayed :( [17:01] Do any of you happen to have a cirrus graphics card? [17:01] no [17:01] slangasek: that's a kernel bug !!! [17:02] slangasek: booting with vga=791 and no "splash" does exactly the same as with "splash" [17:02] so looks like a framebuffer bug or something like that [17:03] ok [17:03] could you repeat this on #ubuntu-devel for BenC? [18:57] fwiw, alternates are going to be respun as well, for fixes to lrm and usplash [18:58] edubuntu won't be touched, someone can go ahead and test that one ;) [21:07] slangasek: when will the new iso's be up then? [21:08] davmor2: I'm about to start another run of image builds; it generally takes about 2h from the time a bug fix is uploaded to the time CDs including the fix can be available [21:09] Cool thanks for the heads up. Looks like I'll be testing them tomorrow :) [21:11] well, that's 2h counting from about 2h ago [21:12] the first of the updated CDs will be available in 15min [21:14] slangasek: that's better I can get some tests done tonight then :) [21:18] updated ubuntu alternates are up (modulo mirror propagation) [21:18] ... but the amd64 one is oversized, gar [21:21] typical :( [21:22] by 1 MB, gar gar [21:22] < 1MB [21:23] all accounted for by l-r-m [21:23] * slangasek looks for fat to trim, then [21:26] l-r-m? [21:27] linux-restricted-modulse [21:27] Ah [21:42] hmm, so the only thing that can be tested is Ubuntu alternate ? :) [21:46] 32 bit [21:50] stgraber: sorry, been working on fixing the alternate oversize issue so neglected to post the others [21:53] ok, posted now; server and ubuntu desktop still rebuilding [22:01] server and desktop built & posted [22:03] ubuntu alternate squeaked down to size; posting now [22:05] posted. that's all the images that are in the queue at the moment. [22:21] everyone fall asleep on me? :) [22:22] no, I'm doing alternate i386 [22:23] ok [22:23] I'm still waiting for the iso's to dl [22:29] slangasek: scheduling -server tests [22:29] hurray [22:32] slangasek: what about xubuntu, is that up yet? [22:41] So let me get this straight everything can be tested again now is that right? [22:41] mathiaz: I don't know if you saw what I said some hours ago in -server, installing tasks LAMP + Mail server fail because of a conflict between exim and postfix. That's not part of any testcase as we are supposed to test them individually but in case you want to do quicker testing, avoid selecting those two at the same time :) [22:41] davmor2: that's the idea yes :) [22:42] Right I'll get started then what you covering at the moment I seem to of got a t'internet speed boost [22:43] I have ubuntu alternate i386 installing here (slowly ...), then I'll do edubuntu i386 [22:43] Right I'll hit the 64 bit then [22:43] davmor2: xubuntu has livefs build failures that cody is going to look into this evening [22:44] slangasek: Cool [22:46] stgraber: what bug did you report about persisting sessions across reboots? [22:48] stgraber: see revision 2 for the code, that was hairier than I expected [22:49] stgraber: hmmm. I didn't notice that - did you report a bug ? It's probably related to the install Recommends by default [22:51] schwuk: dude, we now have session persistence! this is particularly relevant to us because you won't need to login anymore after restarting the daemon [22:52] stgraber: ^^^ [22:55] slangasek: I thought you said usplash was fixed ? [22:55] davmor2: er, I can't exactly guarantee that a package is bug free in every environment [22:55] davmor2: the bug that was breaking usplash on all systems is fixed [22:55] Live 64 bit still no usplash# [22:57] ok; livefs has the old version of usplash-theme-ubuntu, investigating now [22:57] ogasawara: can http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/weatherreport.html be switched to point at intrepid again? :) [22:58] cr3: I don't think I filed one ... do you want one so you can close it ? :) [22:58] slangasek: sure [22:58] mathiaz: it's in my list of bugs to report (I tend do to that by batch) and I wasn't able to find the source of the problem when I tried simulating it locally [22:59] mathiaz: http://www.stgraber.org/download/server-task-conflict [23:03] stgraber: great - thanks [23:03] stgraber: nah, all good :) [23:04] stgraber: what was the usplash bug number? [23:09] davmor2: ok, marking the desktop CDs as disabled for rebuild (again, sigh) [23:09] :( [23:09] davmor2: I have to wait for another publishing run before I can get a good build [23:09] it is an issue then [23:10] davmor2: that was bug 251227 [23:10] Launchpad bug 251227 in usplash "No usable theme found for 640x480" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251227 [23:11] davmor2: yes, as I said, "livefs has the old version of usplash-theme-ubuntu" [23:11] okay cool so alt's only tonight then? [23:12] davmor2: unless you want to wait another hour or more, yes ;) [23:13] davmor2: the current desktop images are a good base for rsyncing the next one, the changes should be minimal [23:13] I'm already tired so I think I'll try for another alternative test and call it a night thanks. [23:14] slangasek: I use the the dl-iso rsync script anway :) [23:14] s/anway/anyway :0 [23:16] stgraber: how was your i386 test going? [23:17] installed fine, seems to boot fine too [23:17] * davmor2 burns 64bit alt [23:19] stgraber: sweet :) [23:19] we're already ahead of the curve then ;P [23:20] slangasek: is this the curve to hell ;) [23:20] nah [23:21] session opened fine, so that's two less tests [23:22] 64 bit live session works [23:22] only usplash that doesn't [23:22] cool [23:23] it's not worth testing ubiquity though, because the livefs build failure means the ubiquity fixes aren't in yet either [23:23] although I hadn't started ubiquity at the time so don't know if that is fixed :( [23:24] it's not [23:25] stgraber: are you going to bed now? [23:27] soren: is virtio net supported in intrepid ? [23:27] davmor2: I'm doing some Canonical-related things so I can work tomorrow :) but indeed going to bed seems like a good idea [23:27] soren: I've tried to boot one of the server isos in a kvm and it fails staying that it didn't detect any network interface [23:28] :) [23:28] soren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29764/ <- dumpxml of the guest [23:29] mathiaz: Is virtio-net loaded? [23:29] soren: nope [23:29] mathiaz: Could you put lspci output somewhere? [23:29] mathiaz: Hm.. I guess you can't :) [23:29] Is virtio-net available in the guest at least? [23:30] soren: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mathiaz/lspci.png [23:30] That's odd. Can you load virtio-net? [23:31] soren: yes [23:31] And that helps? [23:31] slangasek: weatherreport should be pointing to intrepid now [23:31] ogasawara: awesome, thanks :) [23:33] soren: hm - not really [23:33] soren: I've stepped back in the installer and went back to network detection [23:33] soren: it still fails, even if virtio-net is loaded [23:34] soren: however I'm not sure if the installer would correctly work if it could re-detect the network card [23:35] mathiaz: Is it showing up in ifconfig -a? [23:36] soren: hm - ifconfig is not found [23:36] It works fine with the server kernel in intrepid. [23:36] ip? [23:36] ip link, specifically. [23:37] soren: only the loopback interface is listed [23:37] Interesting. [23:37] Well, I'll have to look tomorrow. I'm not really here right now :) [23:38] ogasawara: if there could be a way to associate certain ISOs with certain dists... gobuntu and kubuntu-kde4 don't apply at all for intrepid [23:38] ogasawara: actually, they shouldn't apply for hardy.2 either, so maybe it's fine to just take them out now [23:38] soren: all right - should I file a bug ? [23:38] slangasek: ok [23:39] mathiaz: please do. [23:42] slangasek: that's a point should there be a new completely free test case? [23:43] davmor2: sorry, what do you mean? [23:43] davmor2: gobuntu has never been handled on the ISO tracker (this generation of it); I think there /is/ a a test case published for only-free-software, isn't there? [23:43] Gobuntu is gone but isn't there an option to only use free software now in ubuntu? [23:44] there is [23:44] I think it would be good to have that as a test case, yes [23:44] and I don't see one currently on the tracker, so someone would need to add it [23:45] heno/stgraber or someone else then :) [23:47] * sbeattie looks to seee if he's capable of adding it. [23:48] sbeattie: are you volunteering to also write the test case description first? :) [23:48] iso tracker just exploded ;) [23:49] hrm? [23:49] just slow here [23:49] slangasek: it'll follow the existing test cases for the most part. [23:50] So I could probably throw one together tomorrow [23:50] slangasek: Alt 64 has splash :) [23:51] yes [23:51] thanks for confirming that it works for you as well :) [23:52] mmm, looks like adding a "free software only" install tracker is a job for stgraber [23:53] sbeattie: Phew save from a tracker explosion :) [23:53] davmor2: I'm sure I can find some other way to royally mess things up. [23:54] sbeattie: and of course if not it's your fault anyway right :) [23:55] slangasek: still no sound issues with pulse I'm guessing [23:57] davmor2: can you try sudo rmmod snd_pcsp, then restart your session and see if that fixes it? [23:57] 2 ticks [23:59] need to do it in safe mode it's being used [23:59] well, killall pulseaudio && sudo rmmod snd_pcsp [23:59] should be enough