[00:07] Don64, makes it stick on all the workplaces. [00:08] i don't completly follow [00:08] AlexJP, Is it hardware or software based? [00:08] Don64, see bottom right. See that thing next to the garbage? Gray boxes? Click on them. [00:08] Ok i see. thanks [00:09] AlexJP, you can get the cisco vpn client docs here: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/vpn_client/cisco_vpn_client/vpn_client46/linux_solaris/uglinsol.html [00:26] whoa [00:26] both threads are actually working on this p4D ?! [00:26] i've only noticed 1 thread on XP most of the time [02:21] Any one here have time to help me with some installing wireless card drivers? [02:22] Haikaido, probably best just to ask your actual question/describe your problem [02:22] If someone does, they'll respond [02:22] k [02:23] got these drivers [02:23] for a Dlink DWL-650+ laptop wireless card [02:23] NO idea how to install them [02:23] another bit of information on a side note [02:23] i plug the card in [02:23] and i can see wireless networkd [02:23] *networks [02:24] but it never connects [02:24] (this is without installing these drivers i found of course) [02:26] yeah so...thats where im at now...anyone out there able (or willing rather) to help? [02:29] hmm [02:30] yeah its wierd..the fact that it sees them..but refuses to connect === Odd-rationale_ is now known as Odd-rationale [02:32] Quick google search turned this up: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-48146.html [02:40] im rather confused as to where the solution in that post is [02:40] ive run across that before [02:40] but didnt think they fixed anything [02:40] so i continued on [04:12] noob question- when pasting to open office word from a pdf, i have to delete the end of every line to get the text to go to the end of the margin, - im trying to print a pdf and conserve paper, but deleting the spaces at the end of the line is tedious. Paste Special gives only 1 option. 54 pages of deleting spaces makes me pertrubed, plz help [04:13] dig around :-P [04:15] sweet i got it- paste special then autoformat [04:25] can i put a data-speed plugin in my WM so I can see how fast i'm transferring, lets say, from usb-hdd to ide-hdd, usb-hdd to sata-hdd, sata/ide-hdd to network drive, etc..? [04:25] or something to tha teffect === jawee is now known as jawee_ [05:34] hi guys, i am looking to use the 'write' command over a network, does anyone know how? [06:25] how do you install icon sets ? [06:27] l815: extract the icon folder into a ".icons" folder in your home directory. [06:27] (note the period in front of "icons") > .icons :) [06:28] jlmc, thanks [06:29] yw. you can do the same for themes. just create a .themes folder in your home directory. (i.e. /home/l815/.themes) [06:29] oh i just put themes in the /usr/share/themes folder [06:29] that works, too. [06:29] /usr/share/themes will make them available to all users. [06:29] ~/.themes will make them only available to you as a user. [06:29] ah i see [06:30] /usr/share/icons would make the icons available to all users, too. [06:30] that works! [06:31] :) [06:31] oh i'm having an issue with firefox not remembering default applications [06:31] me, too. [06:31] haven't tried to fix that yet, really. [06:31] okay at least i know it's not just me :D [06:31] yeah, sorry. :/ [06:32] no problem, i can deal with it === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [11:57] hey [13:08] if i delete stuff as root, is it pujt in the trash or is it actually deleted? [13:13] Raz0R, in the terminal or in thunar? [13:14] thunar [13:16] then it will be send to /root/.Trash but ehm.. never run thunar as root [13:18] if you want to remove something, use rm, if your not 100% sure you can/want to remove it, mv it to filename.old or something like that [13:19] oh [13:19] its just i had to delete a load of old mpg files [13:19] and it wouldnt let me do it in thunar? [13:19] so i though i had to be root [13:19] that _certainly_ doesnt need root [13:20] so why wouldnt it let me delete them? [13:20] might have mounted the media its on wrong, or did something with the permisions [13:20] yeah [13:21] i looked at the permissions it said read and write for root, all else read only [13:21] so i thought that meant only root could delete them? [13:21] yeah thats right [13:21] oh [13:21] but i shouldnt do it with thunar? [13:21] but if you need to remove it with root, use a terminal [13:21] exactly [13:21] is there any particular reason for this? [13:22] not meaning to sound rude! just wondering why? :) [13:22] more then one, you make mistakes easyer with something like thunar (you dont remember your root and do something, you drag something to somewhere where its not supposed to be, etc) then with the terminal, and every application you run as root deminishes the security of your system [13:23] ok [13:23] if you run thunar as root and there's a security hole in it, somebody that exploits that hole can have access to everything on your pc, not just your personal files [13:23] thanks for the tip :) [13:23] np :) [13:24] * Raz0R starts up a terminal to rm /root/.Trash [13:24] Raz0R, watch everything your gonna do twice/three times though [13:24] ok [13:24] but as long as it's trash its ok yes? [13:24] its just that the trash folder is taking up about 40 gb of space !! [13:25] yeah, but i'd first cd to the trash folder, ls to see if you are in the right folder and there is no stuff you want to keep, and then remove [13:25] yeah cool [13:25] and best is, if its all mpg's you want to remove, to type rm *.mpg, just to be shure :) [13:26] cool :) [13:26] hey man, im in the root folder but when i do dir or ls nothing happens [13:26] do i need to do sudo? [13:28] ls -a :) [13:28] thanks [13:28] :) im a n00b lol [13:29] there is no trash folder though? [13:30] hmm, no .Trash? [13:30] nope [13:31] shall i pastebin? [13:31] oh whait, .Trash is gnome, its in .local/share/Trash/files [13:32] and .local/share/Trash/info [13:32] thanks mate [13:32] :) [13:33] lol sorry ive got another problem [13:33] alex@desktop:/root/.local$ cd share [13:33] bash: cd: share: Permission denied [13:39] any ideas why that would be? [13:47] yeah you have to be root first [13:47] sudo su and then cd to the right folders :) [13:48] WHAT? [13:48] sudo su? [13:48] WHY? [13:49] sudo -i works fine [13:49] don't use sudo su [13:49] or that :) [13:49] sorry, old habbit of mine [13:52] whats sudo su do? [13:52] Raz0R, it makes you log in as root, but sudo -i is better, should use that [13:53] i used -i [13:53] all done now [13:53] back to 60 gb free instead of 20 gb free :) [14:02] Hi There, What is the minimum RAM Needed for Xubuntu? [14:24] anyone experience installing openoffice.org on xubuntu? [14:29] is there a setting in synaptic to make it auto-update on launch? [14:32] microwaver, just install openoffice.org via synaptic...it will install all the pieces [14:49] Hello [14:49] is there a xubuntu variant voor the desklet in gnome? [14:49] microwaver, if you mean gdesklets, you might wanna give conky a try, might be what you are looking for [14:50] ablomen, conky looks a lot like qps [14:51] What i meant is, in gnome you have something called deskbar or something [14:51] in which you put a piece of the name of the app and it searches for thinges called like that [14:52] ah the deskbar applet, you can use that on xfce too, install >> xfce4-xfapplet-plugin - Gnome applets plugin for Xfce panel [14:53] then add that applet to your panel, when you added that, you can use that applet to add deskbar [14:53] (and other gnome applets if you want to) [14:54] hi all. May I ask a question related to mutt? [14:58] jan___, you can ask....if anyone knows the answer, they will tell you =] [14:58] cheers vidd [14:59] so what is your question [14:59] I access my ISPs IMAP mailbox. Everything works fine, except for switching to different folder with 'c' [14:59] I can see the actual folders in my mailbox, but if I select one, there is no content [14:59] I guess I miss a configuration option in my .muttrc [15:00] and you verified there are actual files in the folder? [15:01] yup. When I access my mailbox with thunderbird. all is fine [15:02] I change for example into the folder info [15:02] -- Mutt: Directory [=Info/], File mask: !^\.[^.] [15:02] this is what I see on the bottom [15:02] but I don't see the actual content of the folder info [15:03] is the folder "info" a seperate folder from "Inbox" or a sub-folder of "Inbox"? [15:04] info is a seperate one [15:04] ablomen, haha :) problem is, I want a similar for my xcfe applets (since I don't even have the gnome one installed anymore [15:06] well you have verve commandline applet, but it has a lot less features... (as in only one... you type the command you want and press enter and it runs it) [15:07] ok...im looking [15:07] thanks a lot vidd. highly appreciated [15:08] ablomen, something alike, well, i'll just click in the menus's and terminal then [15:09] is xubuntu just as logalized to german as ubuntu is? [15:09] ie a non english speaking user can use it? [15:10] wols it is, at least partly [15:10] it uses the same translations [15:10] that partly I don't like :P [15:10] wols: you can always help transalting at http;//translations.launchpad.net [15:11] e.g. it's Applications > Büro [15:11] http; [15:11] the user in question has a K7 900 with 256MB so I thought xubuntu is a better fit. comes from windows and not really a clue about linux or computers in general but the constant spyware cleaning and fixing has to go [15:11] or Places > Papierkorb [15:11] better fit than ubuntu that is [15:11] nahh performance wise use xubuntu [15:12] TheSheep: my personal love is debian and debian only :) [15:12] or recommend gOS [15:12] yes I thought so. with his ram xubuntu is a better fit than ubuntu [15:12] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOS_(Betriebssystem) [15:12] wols: I think these translations go upstream so you'd also help debian [15:12] That's a nice one for a complete newbie to linux [15:13] as I'm on holiday right now I guess I can help to translate TheSheep [15:13] installing on a C2D but latter putting the hdd into a k7 should pose no problems right? [15:14] That should be fine wols [15:14] thank you [15:15] you're welcome [15:16] @TheSheep: Should I search for xfce on the translations page? [15:16] jan___: I suppose you should just search for the apps that are missing translations on your system [15:21] jan___, im getting flooded with calls today.... [15:22] perhaps someone else can help you =\ [15:22] * vidd is @ work [15:23] don't worry vidd. Thanks a lot anyway [15:24] now the TheSheep got me interested into giving something back to the community anyways :P [15:31] jan___, check out http://wiki.mutt.org ... it might help you [15:33] is it possible to see the chipset of my wifi card using some command? [15:35] cheers vidd [15:37] Raz0R: check out http://linux-wless.passys.nl/index.php [15:37] jan___ thanks mate [15:38] you're welcome [15:38] Raz0R, lspci -v | less [15:38] Raz0R: what kind of wifi card is it? [15:38] express, usb? [15:39] pci [15:40] does lspci give you any information? [15:40] not on chipset [15:40] i just get this: http://pastebin.com/m6e9e4a89 [15:42] Raz0R: if you have network access, sudo update-pciids [15:42] ok thx [15:42] then the unknown device should go away. I presume you have ausb WLAN adapter? [15:43] no its pci [15:43] the unknown device is my wifi adapter [15:43] that's odd [15:44] yes, esp. as im connected throught it now [15:44] Raz0R: lspci -nn [15:44] there are numbers in brackets at the end then. tel us those numbers [15:44] ok [15:45] 00:09.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Belkin Unknown device [1799:700f] (rev 20) [15:45] realktek 8185. ugly [15:45] *realtek [15:46] rtl8185 driver if you are lucky or ndiswrapper othrewise [15:46] ok [15:46] im using ndiswrapper at the moment, didnt realise i could get the proper driver [15:47] wols how did you find that out? [15:48] googling 1799:700f [15:49] i see, and that is only relating to this card yes? [15:56] yes. PCI IDs are unique [16:04] its a realtek 8185L :) [16:04] thanks! [16:05] i took the card out to check [16:07] to change the driver from the ndiswrapper one what do i have to do remove all the old stuff? [16:11] do i need to remove ndiswrapper, etc? [16:13] !paste [16:13] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [16:14] Raz0R, http://paste.ubuntu.com/29624/ [16:14] hello cody-somerville [16:14] vidd thanks ill try that [16:14] Hello! :) [16:32] hi can anyone help me installing driver for my wireless interface card [16:37] anyone...? [16:39] Hello! [16:39] I'm kind of in need of some help (somewhat new with linux) [16:41] Raz0R, whats your problem? [16:41] I installed Xubuntu on my old pc (p3, 256mb ram) and figured I'd use it as small home server.. I installed xubuntu and now would like make it possible to access it with both the Macs and PCs in the house... I installed Samba (at least, I think I did) and well, when I connect to the xunbuntu box I can connect with my username & password which I made but it just shows an empty directory.. [16:41] I've changed the home directory of the specific account to root just to see if it would show something yet nothing appears.. [16:41] zizou03, can you pastebin /etc/samba/smb.cnf ? [16:42] Sure, give me a sec [16:42] cody-somerville my wireless card has no drivers installed [16:42] cody-somerville when i do lshw -C network it lists my device, but there is no driver, i have the native linux driver buti dont know how i set it up [16:43] Raz0R, what is your device? [16:43] cody-somerville its a wireless adapter (belkin f5d7000) using chipset rtl 8185L [16:44] cody-somerville i downloaded the linux driver for this chipset from the realtek site, i just dont know how to install it, etc [16:44] cody-somerville its just sitting on my desktop [16:44] Cody-somerville, do you mean smb.cnf or smb.conf? [16:44] (the latter I assume?) [16:44] zizou03, which ever one exists :) [16:45] Raz0R, No documentation on their website? :( [16:45] Raz0R, link to where you got it? [16:45] conf ;) For a second I got confused and though I didn't install it properly, that's why I asked. [16:46] cody-somerville http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8185L [16:47] http://pastebin.com/m4ccdaaed [16:47] should be ik [16:47] it [16:47] I have a file .suspended in my root.... i'm guessing its from a failed attempt to suspend my computer. Is that correct? Can I delete it? I don't need the computer to suspend but I am curious about the file. [16:48] tech404, I wouldn't touch it if I were you. [16:48] tech404, playing around like that is what messes up people's computers :) [16:49] Cody-somerville, cheers for the help you're giving =-) [16:49] yeah.... it belongs to root and is in my root file so I am very hesitate to do anything to it but for the same reasons I want to know what it is and why it is there [16:50] root directory that is [16:50] Ok [16:50] Cody-somerville, nevermind [16:50] I forgot to remove a whole lot of comment signs in the conf file [16:50] zizou03, hehe [16:50] that's probably why it's not really working :) [16:50] * cody-somerville has to get back to work. [16:50] I'll uncomment them and let oyu know :) [16:51] ok, have fun! :p [16:55] cody-somerville did you have any ideas? [16:56] can anyone please help me [16:56] i need to specify a driver for my wireless adapter [16:57] Raz0R, calm down : ) no need to panic [16:57] Click Applications > System > Hardware Drivers [16:57] That should take care of it, I believe [16:57] cody-somerville thankyou, and sorry :) [16:58] cody-somerville all thats listed there is nvidia graphics driver? [17:00] hmm... Okay. [17:00] Raz0R, I have to get back to work. I'll see about assisting you further later. [17:00] #ubuntu might also be a place to get help [17:00] cody ok thanks, im already there :) [17:18] hi [17:21] I've mounted a vfat formated external drive [17:22] /dev/sda1 /media/STUFF vfat rw,user,auto,umask=000 0 0 [17:22] whenever i mv or cp something on it [17:22] I receive a cannot preserve userrights error [17:22] yes? [17:22] can I turn this off somehow? [17:24] preserving times for > Operation nor permitted [17:24] any idea? [17:31] jan___, is it formatted as ntfs or fat? [17:31] that would probably prevent you from preserving permissions, since they don't store unix permissions [17:31] oops, I mised the vfat part, but yeah that's probably why [17:32] thanks thinkmassive [17:33] so there's nothing I can do about this perserving permissions thing [17:33] unless I format the device to ext3, which I can't :P [17:39] jan___, you could make a tar file and store that on the vfat filesystem [17:40] thinkmassive: fat can only store files up to 4GB [17:40] compression might save a good amount of space [17:40] thinkmassive: tar doesn't compress by itself [17:41] how do i tell xubuntu what driver to use for a piece of hardware? [17:41] Raz0R: it oautodetects, for the ones where there is choice, go to system->hardware [17:41] TheSheep, right, but using a z or j flag does [17:44] is there a way to force synaptic to reload (like apt-get update) on launch? [17:45] TheSheep but it doesnt have the driver for this hardware [17:45] Raz0R, what hardware? [17:46] belkin f5d7000 wireless network card [17:46] using rtl8185L chipset [17:46] i have the linux driver for it [17:46] but when i try and run the ./wlan0up part of the driver installation i get this [17:47] http://pastebin.com/m35fbbaa3 [17:47] did you verify that the driver is not blacklisted on your system? [17:47] vidd that device has no blacklisted drivers as far as i can tell [17:47] eeepc? [17:47] sorry i dont understand? [17:48] what device? [17:48] the interface card [17:48] the computer [17:48] its a desktop pc [17:48] nvmd [17:48] how can i access the gnome audio preferences panel? (something like gnome-power-preferences but for sound?) [17:49] ok....the issue is that the intalation program you are running is looking for files that are either not on your machine, or are not in the folder the app is looking at [17:49] how did you get this driver? [17:49] evilbug: click on the whistle icon on your panel [17:50] evilbug: or in the settings manager [17:50] vidd its from here: http://willdaniels.co.uk/articles/howto-guides/10-howto/12-r8180-hardy [17:50] TheSheep, is the volume applet active by default now? [17:50] TheSheep- there is no way to access the exact gnome pref panel for that? [17:51] evilbug: sure, you can install gnome and then you can access the gnome panel [17:51] haha [17:52] TheSheep- right. [17:52] Raz0R, where did you unzip the folder to? [17:52] vidd desktop [17:54] and did you "cd Desktop/[name of folder] before step 4? [17:57] yes [17:57] im in the right place :) [17:57] if you browse that folder, do you see the files listed? [17:59] .... are you working as root? [17:59] or are you using sudo? [18:00] sudo [18:00] and i dont see the files [18:00] i see some, but not those [18:00] run the ./makedrv again....pastebin the output for me [18:02] Raz0R, ill be back in a little bit [18:03] ok ill pastebin it: [18:04] http://pastebin.com/m5c3094fe [18:13] * vidd is back [18:17] ok.... Raz0R ... [18:17] cd to /home/alex/Desktop/rtl8185/rtl8185 [18:18] vidd yes [18:18] then run sudo ./wlan0up [18:19] any luck now? [18:20] just a se [18:20] ssec* [18:20] =] [18:21] http://pastebin.com/m6b54520 [18:22] whoops....drop the last directory [18:22] cd to /home/alex/Desktop/rtl8185/ [18:22] ok... [18:23] same thing as before [18:24] pastebin the wlan0up file for me? [18:26] http://pastebin.com/m7eb0d725 [18:26] is it because the device is in use???? i also see that thjere are errors from the makedrv part [18:27] the device is in use? [18:27] yeah im using a ndiswrapper driver on it [18:27] otherwise no internet connection [18:28] yeah....that would mess it up [18:28] oh [18:28] even though the makedrv isnt installing the ko files? [18:28] but it IS making the files [18:29] you sure? [18:29] at least....its supposed to be [18:29] i did locate r8180.ko and it found nothing [18:31] ?? [18:31] man this is confusing :) [18:31] i would disable the ndiswrapper and retry [18:31] the worst thing to happen is nothing =] [18:31] is there a way to diable ndiswrapper without deleting it all, because otherwise i have to re set up ndiswrapper [18:32] TheSheep, does modprobe -r ndiswrapper turn off ndiswrapper or unintall it? [18:32] unloads it from teh kernel [18:32] TheSheep, it removes it [18:33] so modprobe -a ndiswrapper would reload and he would not have to restart from scratch? [18:37] Raz0R, if you "sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper" it will take ndiswrapper "offline" and you can bring it back with "sudo modprobe -a ndiswrapper" [18:38] ok thanks ill try that in 5 minutes [18:38] im talking to someone else who says they know what the problem is [18:38] ah...if they get it to work....give me a heads-up =] [18:42] ok :) [19:04] vidd it seems i didnt install build essential [19:04] D'OH!!!! [19:05] lol i know what a n00b!!! [19:05] it was step 1 [19:05] =] [19:06] yeah i assumed i had it :) [19:06] a good rule of thumb.... [19:07] brb just disabling ndiswrapper [19:20] vidd: regarding my mutt question earlier on. [19:21] it was a pebtac [19:21] I selected the Imap folder with 'enter' instead of 'space' [19:21] 'space' shows the content of the selected folders [19:21] hah [19:21] ^^ [19:41] Hey folks I was wondering is there a way to open up the volume dialog without placing it into your panel? [19:42] whileimhere: well, in terminal do "alsamixer" [19:43] I was hoping that I could find it under the appliications buttone [19:46]