[00:04] s/7496/7573/ [00:15] Holy crap, kdeartwork has 18,000 + files [00:15] 7 or so copies of every icon [00:16] it's slowing dolphin down to a grinding fail copying them over [00:17] * JontheEchidna should've used mv [00:18] wow thats a lot ofiles [00:23] Riddell uploaded: https://edge.launchpad.net/~d.filoni/+archive [00:24] great, lights flickering... [00:24] * JontheEchidna needs an ups [00:24] I'm going to sleep [00:24] bye === wolfger__ is now known as wolfger [00:32] * apachelogger pokes Arby [00:37] Hi. I get this error when installing kde-zeroconf-kde4 [00:37] Unpacking kde-zeroconf-kde4 (from .../kde-zeroconf-kde4_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_i386.deb) ... [00:37] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-zeroconf-kde4_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack): [00:37] trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/kio_zeroconf.so', which is also in package kdnssd-kde4 [00:37] missing Replaces: line? [00:40] what version is kdnssd-kde4 at? [00:41] Version: 4:4.0.5-0ubuntu1~hardy1 [00:42] Hmm [00:43] I guess it's possible that the files moved around since 4.0.5 [00:44] I think kdnssd-kde4 was renamed to kde-zeroconf-kde4, they seem to have pretty much the same files [00:50] JontheEchidna: should i log a bug in launchpad? [00:51] sure [00:52] I'll make sure to pass the info along to whomever packages kdenetwork for hardy next [00:52] ok, thanks! [00:55] dorins: oh, once you're done filing the bug report could you link to it here? [00:56] JontheEchidna: sure [01:01] JontheEchidna: you could create a wiki page for backport coordination and add a list of stuff that should be looked at ;-) [01:02] apachelogger: Modeled after the regular packaging page? [01:03] * JontheEchidna is backporting as he goes because pbuilder can't tell him if files are missing, btw [01:06] JontheEchidna: either that, or get creative ;-) [01:13] JontheEchidna: added bug #251331 [01:14] Launchpad bug 251331 in kdenetwork-kde4 "kde-zeroconf-kde4 fails to install as it would overwrite files in kdnssd-kde4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251331 [01:14] cool [01:19] werd apachelogger! [01:19] enjoy the party? [01:19] <-- uberdrunk but packaging ;-) [01:19] haha [01:20] kool, I just grabed kdebase [01:20] Ha, dh_install takes longer than compiling does with kdeartwork [01:22] haha [01:22] low hanging fruit [01:22] apachelogger: do you have extragear? [01:23] vorian: why do you need it? [01:23] uh, just thinking ahead [01:23] :P [01:23] * apachelogger would rather have the core stuff packaged and backported before thinking about extragear ;-) [01:24] fine [01:24] :P [01:27] I always love seeing: Congratulations! All external packages have been found. [01:40] * JontheEchidna sorta wishes pinentry was Oxygen-y [01:41] i wish i had an oxygen bar [01:44] base - in progress yo [01:44] \o/ [01:44] haha [01:45] i also have -workspace and -runtime going [01:45] * vorian is crazy [01:45] yes, you is [01:47] all your base belongs to us [01:48] someone set us up the bomb! [01:58] kdeartwork + backport done for great justice! [01:59] arrrg [01:59] ^5 [01:59] whose the pirate? [02:00] * vorian points at jjesse_ [02:06] ok, maybe it's really JontheEchidna [02:06] arrr, ye caught meh [02:07] You'll never catch me-- Vtec just kicked in, yo! [02:09] Well that's probably it for the night for me [02:09] We've made good progress and the tarballs aren't even out yet [02:09] werd to yer mama [02:10] werd === bobesponja_ is now known as bobesponja [08:05] apachelogger: you poked? === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [09:59] Riddell: morning Just running Ubuntu Live cds and then I'm going for the Kubuntu cds should ubiquity be fixed in them now? [10:33] davmor2: should be [10:34] Riddell: cool :) [10:52] hello :) === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Teams | Test alpha 3 candidates CDs [11:00] * seaLne is begining to get fedup with listening to gotam project which was all Riddell left on this laptop [11:01] Nightrose: how are you supposed to get amarok 2 alpha1 to work through a proxy? [11:02] hehe [11:02] seaLne: i have no idea if that works already [11:02] but if you need to change the kde proxy settings [11:02] if not please file a bug report [11:03] Nightrose: Amarok 2 alpha 2 Released Yesterday http://amarok.kde.org/en/node [11:03] in 1 there was a xine config option for proxy but phonon seems a bit black magic [11:03] thats maybe fix some bugs ;) [11:04] -s [11:04] Wubbbi: I know [11:04] I released it ;-) [11:04] but nothing proxy related changed between alpha 1 and 2 [11:05] seaLne: let me have a look [11:05] sec [11:05] Nightrose: hihihi *my face gets red* ^^ [11:05] ;-) [11:06] seaLne: hmmm do you use xine as a backend for phonon? [11:06] Well I have installed it and I get crashs by listening to musik on the Internet. But no debugger is installed. What I need to install? [11:07] Wubbbi: do you get a kcrash dialog? [11:08] yes. But I also get an error, that no debugger is installed. So I have no error massge. Just "The application Amarok (amarok) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)." [11:09] omg ... I have forgott to install gdb ^^ [11:09] sorry [11:10] hehe just wanted to say... [11:10] ;-) [11:12] seaLne: it's about as mainstream as my music gets :) [11:12] *lol* [11:12] Nightrose: Here is the Error :D http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29913/ [11:13] That happend by trying to type something into MP3Tunes.com ... :/ [11:14] Wubbbi: show it to Ramblurr please - he is the guy working on mp3tunes [11:14] though he is kinda mia right now [11:14] wonder where he is... [11:15] ^^ where is he? xD [11:15] that is kinda? [11:15] well he is online but hasn't said a word in the last 3 days or so [11:16] OMG xD [11:16] and his mentor hasn't heard anything from hi either [11:16] *him [11:16] need to investigate [11:17] Maybe he went on Holyday? [11:17] Its summer :D [11:18] don't think so [11:18] he is the most enthusiastic of our students [11:18] maybe he was just burned out and needed a break [11:18] well I will find out [11:19] Or he is ... [11:19] I dont want to say that ^^ [11:24] Riddell: still no usplash [11:26] davmor2: does ubuntu have one? [11:27] hi to all [11:27] Riddell: it does now yes but Kub still doesn't [11:28] hmm, maybe something needs rebuilt [11:28] Riddell: have you see koffice2 on my ppa? [11:29] have a word with slangasek he fix ubuntu's yesterday [11:34] davmor2: do you get X up in Kubuntu? [11:35] I got a desktop yes [11:35] hmm, I don't [11:36] oooppps mind you I'm expecting the install to fail [11:36] at about the 96% mark [11:37] davmor2: freeze? [11:38] yes same as ubuntu [11:38] just trying to rule out gparted [11:45] Riddell: where do you want that I upload the diff.gz for koffice2? [11:45] and crash [11:45] 96% removing libntfs10 [11:52] davmor2: is bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/251223 I believe [11:52] Launchpad bug 251223 in linux "BUG: Dentry ffff81003ac17410{i=161b,n=cow} still in use (1) [unmount of rootfs rootfs]" [High,Triaged] [11:52] Riddell: yeap but trying to help nail whether it was gparted triggering the error (it isn't) :) [11:53] ooh, linux-restricted-modules-common is back at last [12:07] Riddell: ping, could you setup the kubuntu-website project (you registered) to use LP for bug reports please? [12:15] ryanakca: done, I think [12:24] devfil_: koffice2 copied into the main archive, should appear in an hour or so, many thanks for that [12:25] Riddell: np [12:26] Riddell: thanks :) [12:31] Arby: do you want to join the kde 4.1 packaging fun [12:32] * apachelogger has one awesome hangover and can't read properly [12:34] Nightrose: is there a Amarok 2 Realeas plan? When will be the Final Version releast? [12:34] ed [12:34] Wubbbi: there is a release plan but it is not public [12:35] * Nightrose hugs apachelogger and hands him a big bottle of water to ease the hangover [12:35] ;-) [12:35] ok ... Will it be releast This year?? ;) [12:35] yes [12:36] ok ... befor October? [12:36] Nightrose: thanks honey [12:36] ;-) [12:36] Wubbbi: no [12:36] ok ... thats all i want to know ^^ [12:36] that's already about everything :P [12:37] :P [12:37] Riddell: on a plus side Kub installs nicely now on alternative [12:37] woo! [12:38] * Wubbbi spents a Beer to Riddell [12:38] ;) [12:39] * JontheEchidna wakes up [12:40] good morning xD. Please take out your books. We start with lesson 1 on page 6 ;) [12:40] * apachelogger hands JontheEchidna a coffee [12:43] Riddell: can you wishlist bug 251463 for me please :) [12:43] Launchpad bug 251463 in ubuntu "Intrepid: Kubuntu Desktop plasmoid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251463 [12:45] Nightrose: btw, the albums plasmoid is not moving to a different containment [12:45] just appears really short trying to rendering then disappears again [12:46] ewww [12:46] davmor2: IMHO the bug is invalid [12:46] ok [12:46] plus it got no package assigned [12:46] davmor2: the desktop is supposed to be empty [12:46] therefore the plasmoids is also empty [12:47] apachelogger: no in intrepid the is an empty plasmoid on the desktop called desktop and that is empty [12:47] s/the/there [12:48] davmor2: a folderview very likely [12:48] righto [12:48] invalidy bug [12:48] it shows files in the desktop folder [12:48] plasma doesn't show icons anymore [12:48] and if there are none like it is supposed to be now it is empty [12:49] Nightrose: If that is the case then why display it at all? [12:49] that is my point [12:49] well people might have files there [12:49] davmor2: defautl download location is deskop on ubuntu [12:49] dolphin not good enough anymore ;) [12:49] that too [12:49] davmor2: people like having icons on their desktop for some reason :P [12:50] you should have seen the flames when folderview was introduced [12:50] indeed [12:50] Okay I think it just looks like an after thought [12:50] * apachelogger always wanted to see the better approach realy [12:52] Do you think we should set folderview as the default containment for 4.2? [12:52] apachelogger: as much as I'd love to join the fun I'm at work :) [12:52] Arby: well, later on [12:53] and unlikely to have much time this evening [12:53] * Arby is going to a gig tonjight [12:53] toight even [12:53] cool [12:53] bah fail [12:53] Arby: and tomorrow? [12:53] you know, we also have backports to do ;-) [12:53] lookig better [12:53] apachelogger: I don't think we can set a wallpaper with folderview, unless we hack it [12:54] I know, I have ktorrent to finish, hopefully before I go out tonight [12:54] yay, I crashed amarok [12:54] smarter: why? [12:54] it's not a desktop containment (: [12:54] well [12:54] hold on [12:54] It can be [12:55] smarter: do we talk about changing folderview's wallpaper? Oo [12:55] Nightrose: do I have to report a regular bug [12:55] when you set folderview as desktop containment you can't set a wallpaper [12:55] it will be in 4.2 [12:55] apachelogger: about what? [12:55] That's why I said 4.2. ;) [12:55] why would one want to use folderview as containment????? [12:56] * apachelogger shudders [12:56] cause people like icons on the desktop :P [12:56] Nightrose: amarok crash [12:56] apachelogger: because they want _their_ desktop back ;-) [12:56] * JontheEchidna would just delete the folderview personally [12:56] smarter: why not have it a regular plasmoid? [12:56] apachelogger: if you tell me when it crashed i can tell you if it is already filed [12:56] don't know, asks the trolls on kde mailing lists :P [12:57] Nightrose: the dynamic mode was like ended === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_lunch [12:57] verbatim: cause folderview sucks and i want my desktop back [12:57] ;-) [12:57] really [12:57] I mean it was working since I had the 5 grey tracks + 1 but no others [12:57] they simply want it to be like kde 3 [12:57] so I pressed repopulate [12:57] that didn't do anything [12:57] so I tried turning it off [12:57] apachelogger: oh btw, I forgot the bump up the version of kdebase-workspace-dev as a build dep for kdeartwork + backport [12:57] causing amarok to go wocka [12:57] I have a super backtrace btw [12:58] * smarter likes being able to drag'n'drop between his local ~ and his ssh ~ [12:58] apachelogger: ah Daniel had a few crashed with that already - give him another week - if it happens again please file a bug [12:58] JontheEchidna: hold on to the howto ;-) [12:58] hmm if you have a nice bt please send it my way [12:58] smarter: dito ;-) [12:59] fair enough, that bug seems random to me [12:59] smarter: hmmm, now why exactly do we care what trolls say? ;-) [12:59] apachelogger: pastebin and i will send it to daniel [12:59] do we? :P [12:59] apachelogger: because we willl not provide kde3? [13:00] because we just talked about folderview as containment :P [13:00] Nightrose: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29952/ [13:00] thx [13:00] Nightrose: btw, do you get good reports from ubuntu packages? ;-) [13:02] yea - can't complain [13:02] all my work [13:02] * apachelogger loves his -dbg dependency ;-) [13:02] hehe [13:02] * Nightrose gives apachelogger a cookie [13:03] apachelogger: would you like me to resend kdeartwork ? [13:03] users don't though, yesterday someone sent me a mail whether I could lift the dep since he has to install 250 mib of dbg stuff [13:03] JontheEchidna: the backport please [13:03] changing intrepid myself right now [13:03] ok [13:03] * JontheEchidna had put it back to 4.0.98 because he is debuilding on his 4.0.98 machine [13:05] reasonable [13:07] yo yo yo Xand3r [13:07] sup? [13:07] apachelogger: hi [13:09] apachelogger: whats up? [13:09] * apachelogger is wondering why germans try answering questions with questions [13:10] apachelogger: dont know what "sup?" means [13:11] It means "what's up' in English slang [13:12] well, but as JontheEchidna put it yesterday "screw english" [13:12] * JontheEchidna is a ntive english speaker too :P [13:12] native, even [13:12] Xand3r: wie gehts? [13:13] apachelogger: i am fine, and you? [13:13] Xand3r: total karp0tt von den feiereien gestern ;-) ... das waren auch noch mehrere [13:13] "what's up" -> "wassup"/"wazzup" -> "sup" [13:14] hm.. #kubuntu-devel-de? :) [13:14] wazzaaa :P [13:14] heheh [13:14] apachelogger: wie mehrere? [13:15] HEY! ... ich kann auch deutsch xD [13:15] JontheEchidna: btw, installing kdebase-workspace-wallpapers and kdewallpapers-kde4 (which is from kdeartwork, it turns out), doesn't "fix" the issue I mentioned. Hardy KDE 4 PPA [13:15] Xand3r: zuerst wurde ich zu meinem bruder verschleppt wo ich nahrung aufnehmen durfte, dann ab in die bar, dann nachhause skype-bier-trinken, dann zu 2 freunden, um 7 nachhause ;-) [13:16] oh [13:16] Jucato: which issue? [13:16] apachelogger: fresh install of Hardy KDE 4 Remix, upgrade to 4.1rc1 (PPA) -> no wallpaper (black desktop) [13:16] apachelogger: it sound like a realy nice day [13:16] apachelogger: Blue Curls, the new default wallpaper is nowhere to be found it seems [13:17] er.. singular Curl :) [13:17] Xand3r: hängt stark von der definition ab [13:18] Xand3r: wenn ich nach > 6 stunden schlaf noch so karp0tt bin dürfte es sehr ansträngend gewesen sein ;-) [13:18] Jucato: try kdebase-workspace-wallpapers [13:18] Hey, peoples! Could somebody take a look at my package in REVU? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=posterazor I know it's not a KDE package, but I'm having a really hard time getting any MOTUs to advocate it. [13:18] Riddell: didn't get fixed recently only? [13:18] in intrepid [13:18] Riddell: I did. maybe it's not yet in PPA hardy? [13:18] Jucato: I would suppose so very much [13:19] no worries. just pointing it out since it might cause a problem for hardy when 4.1 comes out [13:19] (unless of course the user already has set a wallpaper in local config... so...) [13:20] apachelogger: I don't think it got fixed in hardy [13:20] right... my bad for being in hardy :P [13:20] * Jucato tried a fresh install of intrepid using a command line hardy install + upgrade to intrepid + install kubuntu-desktop (kde4)... X epic fails [13:21] i done an update for some minutes, now jockey dont work, http://paste.ubuntu.com/29956/ [13:23] rebootin might help [13:23] then again [13:23] * apachelogger doesn't know anything about python :P [13:23] reboot, reforat, reinstall? [13:24] apachelogger: some one told me reboting is a illnes from win [13:24] apachelogger: but i try it anyway [13:24] c ya === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [13:40] Riddell: Adept is still not running from the update applet is this to do with kdesudo still or is it to do with adept itself do you know? === davmor2_lunch is now known as davmor2 [13:41] davmor2: I don't know, I notice konsole from kde 3 doesn't seem to be installed which ought to be needed by adept [13:42] can adept run without sudo? [13:42] just to see if it starts [13:43] no [13:43] damn [13:44] apachelogger: i restarted and i read a red [fail], somthing was not loaded, somthing with modul in it, how can i check what was not loaded? [13:44] sudo ksystemlog [13:44] ah [13:44] * apachelogger is wondering whether by default a bootlog is created [13:45] sudo adept error sudo: adept: command not found [13:46] davmor2: adept_manager [13:47] apachelogger: no there is no boot log [13:47] Xand3r: well, look at the syslog then [13:47] so how i make such a thing, so long using kubuntu, everday i learn something new [13:47] or check the files in /var/log [13:47] Riddell: apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29962 [13:48] Xand3r: /etc/default/bootlogd [13:48] I guess [13:48] ah [13:48] davmor2: known issue [13:48] adept will not start because it is missing kde3's konsole [13:48] * apachelogger moves out for some coffee [13:48] Adept is garbage ... It sucks ^^ [13:49] Wubbbi: better than nothing (when it works anyway) [13:49] now rebooting [13:51] devfil_: yes but synaptic is much better. It would be nice to have a Synaptic-QT4 as default [13:52] Is it possible to create a Qt4-Synaptic? [13:54] that's not sane [13:54] Wubbbi: ? [13:54] but we do need to decide between adept 2, adept 3 and kpackagekit at some point [13:55] Riddell: I'd of said sooner rather than latter too :) [13:56] is there a bug number for adept not working? [13:57] davmor2: don't think so [13:58] hmmm [14:02] Riddell: okay I'll open one so it can be linked to the tracker then [14:03] apachelogger: where the bootlog will be stored? [14:06] Riddell: you have uploaded koffice2 with 1.3 as revision numer [14:06] *number [14:09] Riddell: in my ppa I've uploaded it with 1.3 because ppa reject a package with the same version [14:11] Riddell: bug 248727 sound familiar [14:11] Launchpad bug 248727 in adept "Intrepid alpha-2: adept-notifier fails to launch adept-updater" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/248727 [14:19] * Xand3r reboot [14:30] i think i put hardy again on the laptop, intrepid is too unstable for my laptop [14:30] c ya [14:31] apachelogger: do we want the kdeplasmoid/extragear-plasma dummy packages for the intrepid kdeplasma-addons? [14:32] * JontheEchidna notices that the lastest intrepid package doesn't have them [14:34] Riddell: what about koffice2 revision number? [14:35] * Riddell in two meetings [14:54] apachelogger: for hardy there is amarok-kde4 and amarok2, are that the same things? [15:08] mornin' [15:08] apachelogger: sending over kdeplasma-addons + backport, but my mailserver has a terminal case of the sucks [15:08] is there anybody that can help me figure out how to get an ilo mp3 player to work in either windows or linux, to recognize the icon for the mp3 player the way that they both recognize an ipod? [15:08] Oh, there goes kdeplasma-addons [15:08] just waiting on the backport now [15:21] cmake dont know the command kde4_add_plugin, what can i do fo r solving the issue? [15:23] Xand3r: no [15:23] and about what app are you talking [15:24] apachelogger: about a plasmoid from the truhk [15:24] Nightrose: how does one configure media devices in a2? [15:24] *trunk [15:24] apachelogger: so what is amarok-kde4 ? [15:24] amarok-kde4 is the new amarok2 package [15:25] and the information isn't exactly informative [15:26] apachelogger: not at all yet i think [15:26] why the heck does cmake check for that stuff then :P [15:26] apachelogger: tha nowplaying plasmoid from the trunk [15:26] * apachelogger is wondering how Xand3r got that [15:27] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/nowplaying/ [15:27] apachelogger: i got it with svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/nowplaying/ [15:28] Nightrose: http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/740-MTP-Incoming-and-Ipod-File-Deletion-Support.html [15:28] Nightrose: that is a case of - oh, why don't I have that cool stuff [15:28] Xand3r: you have to compile kdeplasma-addons [15:28] * apachelogger would also very much appreciate it if Xand3r would ask such stuff in #kde [15:29] apachelogger: ask xevix please :) [15:29] i have no idea [15:29] apachelogger: ok thx, now joining #kde [15:29] * apachelogger is too shy to ask xevix [15:29] never used my player with amarok 2 yet [15:30] hehe [15:30] apachelogger: ^^ you and shy^^ [15:30] * apachelogger is! [15:31] * Nightrose can confirm [15:31] ;-) [15:34] apachelogger: shuld i hold your hand? [15:34] nah [15:34] * apachelogger will juts wait until someone complains [15:34] it's not like I couldn't use rhythmbox :P [15:36] ^^ [15:43] Amarok 2 is still very crashy bashy :/ [15:43] ^^ [15:44] But I like the new designe much! Its perfect :D [15:51] * JontheEchidna has to go in a bit [15:54] My email is doing the "progress to arbitrary progress precentage then stop" thing again. :/ [16:32] apachelogger: dirk remade the kdepim tar, make sure you got the right one af600e2c096e932b3b87cc2a8270fcf0 kdepim-4.1.0.tar.bz2 [16:32] devfil_: koffice2 version number is because I just copied it directly from your PPA [16:33] Riddell: I see, is it wrong? [16:33] nope [16:33] ok [16:34] however it seems to need additional deps from universe, how to fix this? [16:34] can you add them manually? [16:34] what deps? [16:35] oh, hmm [16:35] it put itself in main [16:36] ok, I think I fixed that [16:37] Riddell: did he upload yet? [16:45] apachelogger: yes [16:46] Riddell: getting 5ccd9ca2bf92c0f94ac3b0bf5a5a1344 kdepim-4.1.0.tar.bz2 [16:46] hmm [16:46] ah [16:46] of course there was another bug in kdepim, updated tarball: [16:46] 5ccd9ca2bf92c0f94ac3b0bf5a5a1344 kdepim-4.1.0.tar.bz2 [16:46] says dirk [16:47] perfect then :) [16:56]