[00:09] <Dein> after setting up my dual display and enabling compiz effects, i noticed that menus on my main monitor  open with 1 second of lag, and on my tv they open normally, is there a way to correct this?
[00:18] <kwtm> Is there a utility (or some other way) that I can click on a window with my mouse, and find out basic info about that window such as which program is opening that window?
[00:18] <Sakui> how do I format a NTFS partition to NTFS?
[00:19] <kwtm> When I press Fn+Up on my laptop, a window pops up saying "Brightness: 57%" (or whatever), and I want to know which program is making that window so I can control that program and reprogram the brightness.
[00:20] <antum> Hi, does anyone know how to mount a samba share that I can see in the Network browser?
[00:20] <kwtm> Sakui: I guess you would use mkntfs.
[00:22] <_2> hey !    i just wrote a new way to use floppy disks for data storage.  i think it could probably be adapted for use with harddisks/partitions   i call it "tarfs"  and wanted to know if anyone with floppy drive would give it a look and tell me what they think ?   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5abd0f   "it's just a shell script"
[00:23] <_2> or anyone that knows shell scripting for that matter.
[00:38] <_2> channel is dead !
[00:50] <gurkentraeger> hello!
[00:50] <gurkentraeger> tell me people... what is the matter with compiz in ubuntu/kubuntu?
[00:51] <_2> gurkentraeger hello and welcome to a dead channel
[00:51] <_2> !compiz
[00:52] <gurkentraeger> i had debian etch installed and everything worked perfectly
[00:52] <gurkentraeger> ....
[00:52] <gurkentraeger> !!!
[00:52] <gurkentraeger> ciao
[00:57] <gurkentraeger> so okay no compiz in kde...
[00:57] <Cheezwhiz> Compiz works with KDE
[00:57] <gurkentraeger> but what is whith the kde-native transparency effects?
[00:57] <gurkentraeger> no it doesnt
[00:57] <Cheezwhiz> Ah, no clue.  I haven't played with that yet.
[00:58] <Cheezwhiz> And yes, it does.
[00:58] <Cheezwhiz> I've been playing with the cube, multiple desktops, etc since I installed 8.04 on my tower
[00:58] <Sydero> Does anyone actually care about the stupid cube?
[00:59] <Sydero> :P
[00:59] <BluesKaj> !compiz-fusion
[00:59] <gurkentraeger> no i get interfering signals sometimes when i open some windows ...
[00:59] <Cheezwhiz> Not really.  It's fun to play with and makes good eye candy for Microcrap nuts
[00:59] <BluesKaj> hint...hint
[01:00] <Cheezwhiz> Quick question.  Anyone have a problem with soundserver crashing at every bootup?
[01:00] <gurkentraeger> those windows look like a tv without a signal...
[01:00] <gurkentraeger> this flickering is there for half a second
[01:01] <gurkentraeger> but it is disturbing......
[01:01] <Cheezwhiz> That's odd.  I never had that problem with mine.  Are you running an ATI or nVidia card?
[01:01] <Sydero> yeah same gurken
[01:01] <_2> Cheezwhiz set to use alsa ?
[01:01] <Sydero> it's when they load for the very first time
[01:01] <gurkentraeger> if i say nvidia you will say buy ati
[01:01] <Sydero> for KDE 4.1
[01:01] <Cheezwhiz> Actually, no I won't cause I'm using dual 8800GT's on my tower lol
[01:01] <Cheezwhiz> Ah okay.  I'm using 3.5
[01:02] <Cheezwhiz> No idea what alsa is, _2
[01:02] <Sydero> well switch to a Voodoo card :P
[01:02] <Cheezwhiz> <-- Kubuntu Novice
[01:02] <Sydero> ALSA is the sound
[01:02] <Sydero> manager
[01:02] <Sydero> thingy
[01:02] <Sydero> !alsa
[01:02] <gurkentraeger> @ Sydero: but dont you also have experienced that sometimes in kde3?
[01:02] <Sydero> no
[01:02] <Sydero> not in kde3
[01:03] <Sydero> but I haven't used kde3 for a long time
[01:03] <gurkentraeger> which ver?
[01:03] <gurkentraeger> hardy?
[01:03] <Sydero> well now I have 4.1
[01:03] <carib909> filo1234 got errors after updating nano /etc/hosts  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29795/
[01:03] <gurkentraeger> gutsy?
[01:03] <Sydero> I don't know
[01:03] <_2> Cheezwhiz check your sound server and see if it's set to use "alsa == advanced linux sound architevure"
[01:03]  * _2 typoed that one...\
[01:04] <_2> any way.  in system setting
[01:04] <Cheezwhiz> Got it.  Seems to have worked.
[01:04] <Cheezwhiz> When I restarted the sound system before it crashed, after changing it to ALSA, no crash.  Hopefully that'll stay true lol
[01:05] <_2> it should
[01:05] <carib909> filo12334 here is nano  result http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29796/
[01:05] <Cheezwhiz> Now back to trying to get EQ2 to run on this thing
[01:05] <Sydero> EQ2?
[01:05] <Cheezwhiz> EverQuest 2
[01:05] <Sydero> oh
[01:05] <Cheezwhiz> I'm a gamer, which is the only reason I still have an MS system in my house.
[01:05] <Sydero> well I find that performance for games is somewhat less than in Windows :/
[01:05] <Cheezwhiz> If I can get that to run on Kubuntu I'm going to burn my MS systems
[01:05] <_2> alsa is kernel side  where as arts and other things like that are userland    iiui
[01:06] <Cheezwhiz> A little less is fine with me as long as it's stable and playable.
[01:06] <_2> less is more than more
[01:06] <_2> :)
[01:06] <gurkentraeger> @ Sydero: Ubuntu is to far away from Debian i think... it is getting more and more like win...  perfect for gamers and perfect for selling and promote high end video cards....
[01:07] <lusergio> oi alguem fala portugues?
[01:07] <Sydero> the drivers aren't up to par yet
[01:07] <filo1234> carib909:  is another problem  put cat /etc/sudoers on pastebin
[01:07] <gurkentraeger> ok its far away from perfect for gamers..
[01:07] <Guest95338> hello all
[01:07] <Sydero> however it's nice to hear that a month ago Nvidia said they'd focus more on Linux drivers
[01:07] <Cheezwhiz> Actually nVidia has started releasing Linux versions of their new drivers
[01:07] <Sydero> and even place works with Linux on the box
[01:08] <Sydero> !portugese
[01:08] <gurkentraeger> but maybe my pc is just to lame...
[01:08] <_2> "   Without stolen Microsoft IP, Linux is nothing more than a bloated file manager."   --http://www.promotinglinux.com/truth/  <<< obviously the author or should i say propagandist, did do her home work
[01:08] <Sydero> well Linux did steal some IP
[01:08] <Sydero> but MS was nice enough to let it go
[01:08] <Sydero> I think
[01:09] <gurkentraeger> what do you mean by IP?
[01:09] <Sydero> intellectual property
[01:09] <Sydero> so in this case code
[01:09] <gurkentraeger> i read that now...
[01:09] <_2> Sydero totally irrelivant.   linux is the kernel  and calling it a "bloated file manager" is ludicrise in the extreem
[01:09] <carib909> filo1234 results of cat /etc/sudoers http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29797/
[01:09] <Sydero> yeah for that article it is
[01:10] <Sydero> since they're two different things
[01:10] <MrKennie> and Iwonder how much IP MS has stolen
[01:10] <Sydero> none
[01:10] <_2> lol
[01:10] <_2> bull
[01:10] <filo1234> carib909:   put  cat /etc/hosts  too on pastebin
[01:10] <_2> M$ stole dos to begin with
[01:10] <Sydero> they didn't steal
[01:10] <Sydero> they bought
[01:10] <Sydero> and don't call it M$ you noob
[01:10] <_2> no they got it out of the trash
[01:11] <_2> noob  :)
[01:11] <Sydero> quit spreading lies
[01:11] <filo1234> carib909:  sorry  sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[01:11] <filo1234> carib909:  and  cat /etc/hosts
[01:11] <_2> ok.  micro$ux windrarz
[01:11] <_2> you like that better ?
[01:11]  * MrKennie wonders if there are any ops about :P
[01:12] <Sydero> 0 ops
[01:12] <gurkentraeger> i was ROTFL when i read the first paragraph...
[01:12] <_2> MrKennie yes there are.
[01:12] <carib909> results of cat /etc/hosts  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29799/
[01:12] <_2> do we need them ?
[01:12] <MrKennie> well, it is offtopic and it's flame bait
[01:13] <MrKennie> do not feed the trolls as it were
[01:13] <filo1234> carib909:  have you delete other lines on /etc/hosts
[01:13] <_2> ok.
[01:13] <_2> MrKennie you can !ot | _2   anytime you need to
[01:13] <Guest66170> hello
[01:14] <Sydero> hi
[01:14] <Sydero> !ot
[01:14] <gurkentraeger> they write a lot of bullshit on that page  --http://www.promotinglinux.com/truth/
[01:15] <Guest66170> I am new to linux is there anyone who help with an audio problem
[01:15] <carib909> what other lines?/ soomethiiing about ip6?
[01:15] <gurkentraeger> stolen code ... steal one plus one mother%/$%/ers!
[01:15] <Guest66170> hi sydero
[01:15] <_2> and for the record.  you can !ops  the chan opps when needed.  but i will warn you that abusing that can bite you.
[01:15] <Sydero> !ops
[01:15] <filo1234> carib909:  read mine  filo@filo-eeepc:~$ cat /etc/hosts
[01:15] <filo1234> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[01:15] <filo1234> 127.0.1.1 filo-eeepc
[01:15] <filo1234> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[01:15] <filo1234> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[01:15] <filo1234> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[01:15] <filo1234> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[01:15] <filo1234> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[01:15] <gurkentraeger> i stole  one plus one in grammar school !!! please send me to jail....
[01:15] <filo1234> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[01:15] <filo1234> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[01:15] <filo1234> sorry
[01:15] <gurkentraeger> good night...
[01:16] <nalioth> filo1234: pastebins abound
[01:16] <nalioth> Sydero: can we help you?
[01:16] <carib909> I  ran  it with the ip6  lines and got errors  so I deleted them
[01:17] <carib909> I can add them back
[01:17] <Sydero> no
[01:19] <filo1234> nalioth:  sorry i wrong
[01:19] <filo1234> carib909:  replace with this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/29801/
[01:19] <filo1234> carib909:  and put on pastebin  sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[01:20] <carib909> ok brb
[01:20] <antum> Anyone know why I might be able to browse samba shares using smbclient, but once I mount them using mount -t smbfs I can't issue an ls command?
[01:20] <antum> I get Input/Output Errro
[01:21] <jose> hola
[01:21] <_2> !swat
[01:22] <_2> !es | jose
[01:22] <_2> jose  and howdy :)
[01:22] <Sydero> !abuse | _2
[01:22] <Sydero> damnit
[01:23] <Sydero> wrong one
[01:23] <_2> looking for botabuse ?
[01:23] <Sydero> !vista
[01:24] <_2> M$ vesta ....   tried once,  and really tried to tolerate it...   couldn't do it though.
[01:24] <Sydero> we already know you're the local MS troll
[01:25] <_2> !troll | (:
[01:26] <Sydero> here's an interesting thing I Just found
[01:26] <Sydero> !women
[01:26] <filo1234> is possible to kick thats troll??
[01:27] <nonewmsgs> filo i haven't seen what he said but if you need ops try exlam followed by ops
[01:27] <filo1234> nonewmsgs:  _2  abuse bot and speak  about vista
[01:28] <nonewmsgs> how can i virus check a folder with clam?  i installed clam but i don't know what i am doing and i downloaded a native linux program and would like to check it first
[01:30] <_2> hi Jucato
[01:30] <raghu> hello
[01:30] <_2> raghu
[01:31] <MrKennie> nonewmsgs: clamscan filename
[01:31] <MrKennie> nonewmsgs: or you can clamscan /path
[01:31] <nonewmsgs> MrKennie, thanks very much
[01:31] <raghu> h
[01:32] <MrKennie> nonewmsgs: worth reading the manual becaue you may only be interested in infected filesbeing reported.
[01:32] <MrKennie> nonewmsgs: amongst other interesting options
[01:34] <_2> filo1234 which troll do you want kicked.   just say the word and we'll get it done.    "but, if you have a personal complain about someone, you really should speak dirrectly to them first; and if that doesn't work then call the ops.   it's just common sense."
[01:38] <Cheezwhiz> Alright.  So I'm attempting to install Eternal Lands on Hardy Heron.  I created /usr/games/el to put the files in, but when I attempted to copy it all over it says access denied...any ideas?
[01:38] <_2> you can chown the dir or chmod it.   also you can copy as root
[01:39] <Cheezwhiz> I did a sudo su and it still wouldn't let me copy it over.
[01:39] <MrKennie> su == switch user
[01:40] <MrKennie> you probably want sudo cp -r somefiles destination
[01:40] <_2> you shouldn't use "sudo su"    either add the dash or use -i    "sudo -i"  or "sudo su -"
[01:41] <Cheezwhiz> What's the difference between "sudo su" and sudo su -"
[01:41] <_2> and yes the sudo cp -R origen dest    would be the prefered way
[01:41] <_2> Cheezwhiz one extra process
[01:41] <_2> same end result
[01:41] <Cheezwhiz> Ah okay.  Thanks
[01:41] <_2> oh no wait
[01:41] <_2> i read that wrong
[01:42] <Cheezwhiz> Still says it.  Do I have to do it through the konsole or can I do it through Dolphin?
[01:42] <_2> thought you said  What's the difference between "sudo -i" and sudo su -"  <<<  my bad
[01:43] <_2> Cheezwhiz if you can't through the konsole it's doubtful that a file manager will help "unless it a typo (pebcak)
[01:43] <Cheezwhiz> Hmm.....
[01:43] <_2> you can try it   kdesu dolphen
[01:43] <_2> not sudo   ^
[01:43] <_2> !kdesu
[01:43] <_2> !sudo
[01:44] <_2> and kick the troll,  he's abusing the bot again.
[01:44] <_2> :)
[01:44] <_2> now back to your question.    man su   for the details  but the short answer is the "root environment setting"
[01:44] <Cheezwhiz> What's the command for removing a dir?  rmdir?
[01:44] <_2> if empty
[01:44] <nonewmsgs> Cheezwhiz, rd
[01:44] <Cheezwhiz> thx
[01:45] <_2> if not    rm -r
[01:45] <_2> nonewmsgs was "rd" added in hardy ?
[01:46] <_2> nonewmsgs i have never seen that command...   care to do a     type rd    for me please ?
[01:46] <Cheezwhiz> rd doesn't work.  Just tried it
[01:46] <nonewmsgs> ~rd
[01:47] <nonewmsgs> !rd
[01:47] <_2> he may have a function setup or it may be a shell builtin if he is using an exotic shell
[01:47] <nonewmsgs> he's right.  it's rm -r
[01:47] <nonewmsgs> !rm
[01:48] <_2> well would some one kick the troll for being right !
[01:48] <Cheezwhiz> what's the command to copy in konsole?
[01:48] <MementoMori> hi
[01:49] <MrKennie> cp
[01:49] <Cheezwhiz> thanks
[01:50] <Cheezwhiz> How in the hell can I do a sudo -i and still not have permissions to write to a folder that I just created?
[01:50] <_2> nonewmsgs drop this in your konsole and you'll have an rd command:  function rd { rm -r "$@" ; }
[01:50] <biovore> is the file set +w ?
[01:50] <Cheezwhiz> I've got full permissions to the file, but not the folder for some reason
[01:51] <biovore> what the permissions on the folder?  (ls -al <folder_name>)
[01:51] <Cheezwhiz> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096
[01:51] <_2> Cheezwhiz may i sujest you run this command:  sudo chown $USER /usr/games/el -R
[01:52] <Cheezwhiz> and drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096
[01:52] <_2> you can then do what ever you need and then change the owner ship to what ever you want sith the same command   replacing $USER with the desired end user name
[01:53] <_2> root in that example ^  of course.
[01:53] <biovore> hmm.. that looks like it should be fine,,
[01:55] <_2> i will caution everyone that inode ownership is very important on some things    randomly owning recursively    can and in some places will break the system
[01:55] <Cheezwhiz> For some reason it won't let me change ownership of the file to my end user
[01:56] <_2> in your home   in /usr/local  and in /usr/games   it will have bery limited affect, and is "relatively" safe
[01:56] <MrKennie> Cheezwhiz: what is the exact error you get when trying to copy?
[01:56] <Cheezwhiz> standby
[01:57] <Cheezwhiz> "You do not have write permission to this folder.  Please provide another folder."  This is when attempted to extract the file into /usr/games using Ark
[01:57] <MrKennie> I see
[01:57] <_2> Cheezwhiz so own the dir
[01:58] <MrKennie> what type of file is it?
[01:58] <Cheezwhiz> *.zip
[01:58] <MrKennie> Cheezwhiz: oh you have several zips?
[01:59] <Cheezwhiz> Negative.  I'm trying to extract a single .zip "el_linux_170_install.zip" into folder /usr/games
[01:59] <MrKennie> ok
[01:59] <MrKennie> one way: try cd /usr/games/el
[01:59] <MrKennie> sudo unzip /path/to/zip
[02:00]  * _2 thought Cheezwhiz said he "couldn't copy the files to"   not that some gui app called ark could extract them to there ...     sudo unzip file.zip -d /usr/games
[02:00] <MrKennie> or sudo unzip filename.zip -d /usr/games/el
[02:01] <Cheezwhiz> I tried it both ways _2.  Same issue both times, it wouldn't give me access to the destination folder
[02:01] <Cheezwhiz> However, the sudo unzip /home/<user name>/el_linux_170_install.zip process worked
[02:02] <_2> lovelady
[02:03] <_2> Cheezwhiz ftr   kdesudo ark    will also allow that  ;/
[02:03] <Cheezwhiz> How the hell did you do that? lol
[02:04] <_2> /whois Cheezwhiz
[02:04] <_2> :)
[02:04] <Cheezwhiz> lol Forgot all about that command
[02:04] <Cheezwhiz> Gonna have to ask you how to ghost my info later on
[02:04] <MrKennie> Cheezwhiz: there's a lot to the commandline interface, it's something you will pick up over time.
[02:04] <_2> i'm no guru/hacker/cracker   it's just child's play
[02:05] <Cheezwhiz> I'm an old DOS guy so I love command line.  I just gotta learn all the new commands.
[02:05] <MrKennie> you will love this even better
[02:05] <_2> Cheezwhiz most irc clients allow for adjusting of the user info that they use.  but ip spoofing is best handled through the freenode server
[02:06] <MrKennie> Cheezwhiz: just bear in mind *nix is case sensitive
[02:06] <MrKennie> that got me when I started out.
[02:06] <Cheezwhiz> I do remember that from the UNIX block of my tech school.
[02:06] <Cheezwhiz> Alright.  Problem #2 we rdy? lol
[02:07] <_2> Cheezwhiz as to "learning the new commands"  it easies to forget all you learned from dos and start from scratch.
[02:07] <Cheezwhiz> I try, unfortunately, some of the systems I work on still run on DOS
[02:07] <Cheezwhiz> I don't know how many times I've entered cls expecting all my prompts to clear for me only to cuss at it later on.
[02:08] <Cheezwhiz> Anyway, I've got the files extracted into /usr/games/el_install, unfortunately none of the executables will run.
[02:08] <Cheezwhiz> No error messages, nothing.
[02:08] <_2> Cheezwhiz  alias cls='reset'
[02:09] <_2> Cheezwhiz sounds like you grabed the M$ version rather than the *nix one???   the executables dont have .exe or .com names do they ?
[02:11] <_2> Cheezwhiz as to the alias i offered the linux way is ^L    ctrl+l
[02:11]  * genii sips his beer
[02:11] <Cheezwhiz> There are multiple executables for various OS's in the same file.  Everything from .exe, .com, to .bin.  I'm trying to run the .bin for an x86 system and I get nothing.
[02:11] <_2> genii :)     i'll get some coffee ready  :)
[02:12] <_2> Cheezwhiz is it marked executable ?
[02:12] <Cheezwhiz> aye
[02:12] <_2> call it from a konsole and see if it answers
[02:13] <genii> _2: We still have the sudoers/hosts/livecd guy on the line?
[02:13] <MrKennie> Cheezwhiz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156899
[02:14] <MrKennie> Cheezwhiz: second post explains how they got it running
[02:14] <Walzmyn> I've installed Kontact for KDE4 (everything else is 3.5.9) - When I try to make a shortcut to it in the quick launcher it only opens the KDE3 version of Kontact.
[02:14] <MrKennie>  /installed
[02:15] <Agent_bob> hmm that was an unexpected reset
[02:15] <Agent_bob> genii i was saying i don't know cause i knew i couldn't help him anyway
[02:15] <anthonyb7> Hello All??~!!!
[02:15] <Cheezwhiz> I was looking at another post about installing it and it was missing one crucial command that I didn't know lol.
[02:16] <Agent_bob> i scrolled up to see and noticed my nick changedddd
[02:16] <Agent_bob> Cheezwhiz did you call it from the konsole  ?
[02:16] <anthonyb7> quick question
[02:16] <genii> Agent_bob: I'm at home finally so time to devote now to convoluted problems. But earlier my second workplace was crazy busy
[02:17] <Cheezwhiz> Yep. ./el.x86.linux.bin was the command that I didn't know heh
[02:17]  * genii waits for the questions
[02:17] <Agent_bob> genii i stand under you.
[02:17] <MrKennie> genii: what if?
[02:17] <anthonyb7> does any one know how to get shut down on kunbuntu
[02:17] <anthonyb7> ????
[02:17] <Agent_bob> Cheezwhiz heh.   all working now ?
[02:17] <Walzmyn_> anthonyb7, err, use the kmenu?
[02:17] <genii> Agent_bob: Hehe
[02:17] <anthonyb7> how WALZmyn?
[02:18] <Cheezwhiz> All working.  Horribly ugly game though lol
[02:18] <Walzmyn_> anthonyb7, i suggest a mouse.
[02:18] <Cheezwhiz> Not really worth installing
[02:18] <anthonyb7> lol
[02:18] <Walzmyn_> anthonyb7, kmenu>>logout>>shutdown
[02:18] <MrKennie> after all that lol
[02:18] <genii> anthonyb7: When you choose Kmenu...Logout...Turn Off             it does not shut off properly?
[02:18] <Agent_bob> !games | Cheezwhiz
[02:18] <MrKennie> Cheezwhiz: atill, you learned a few things
[02:18] <anthonyb7> is that the only way to shutdown?
[02:18] <MrKennie> still*
[02:18] <Agent_bob> Cheezwhiz thought you might like a tour
[02:18] <Cheezwhiz> Thanks
[02:18] <anthonyb7> walzmyn
[02:19] <Walzmyn_> anthonyb7, $shutdown -h now
[02:19] <MrKennie> anthonyb7: you can type halt or shutdown -h now
[02:19] <genii> anthonyb7: There is the ungraceful way from terminal   of : shutdown -h now
[02:19] <Walzmyn_> anthonyb7, why, what's wrong with your system?
[02:20] <MrKennie> I wonder if init 6 would work too? is it 6?
[02:20] <Agent_bob> Walzmyn_ & MrKennie while that probably works  the pregered way would be    sudo init 0      or 6 for reboot
[02:20] <genii> MrKennie: Telinit 0
[02:20] <anthonyb7> walzmyn, when i press the shut down button i get the normal prompt but since i switch to kunbuntu theres only suspend and hibernate
[02:20] <genii> Agent_bob: telinit
[02:21] <Cheezwhiz> Wow.  I'm assuming that most of the games for the Linux platforms are homebrew?
[02:21] <MrKennie> Cheezwhiz: nexuiz is cool if you like FPS
[02:21] <genii> Cheezwhiz: Nah. I'd hardly call OpenArena or Americas Army homebrewed games
[02:21] <Agent_bob> genii yes same thing.   both switch to other runlevels
[02:22] <Cheezwhiz> I'm just going off of the list of 2 MMO's.
[02:22] <Cheezwhiz> I tend to be a social gamer.  I like the raiding aspect of the MMO's and, to be completely honest, what I've seen thus far kinda hurts the eyes.  I'll give credit to people building them, but not my thing
[02:22] <Walzmyn> anthonyb7, that's weird
[02:22] <Agent_bob> Cheezwhiz yeah there's not a very good market for FOSS games...
[02:23] <anthonyb7> Walzmyn, it was all good when i had unbuntu
[02:23] <Cheezwhiz> I bet there could be though.  If someone were to develop a game to run on Linux with lore and breadth to rival the major hitters I'm sure a market would open up.
[02:23] <Agent_bob> Cheezwhiz hard to atract hi dollar professionals to FOSS coding
[02:23] <MrKennie> kinda like FOSS movies in a way except games are software :P
[02:23] <Agent_bob> !foss
[02:24] <Agent_bob> first link ^
[02:24] <MrKennie> I meant foss movies in a sort of metaphorical sense.
[02:24] <Cheezwhiz> Just looked at it and I know what you mean.
[02:24] <Agent_bob> yes. i stand under you.
[02:24] <anthonyb7> Walzmyn ,if i do that shutdown in cmd will it automatically do it?
[02:25] <anthonyb7> once i put in the password
[02:25] <Walzmyn> anthonyb7, yes
[02:25] <anthonyb7> ok lol i was about to
[02:25] <Walzmyn> anthonyb7, but Agent_bob says there's a better way
[02:27] <anthonyb7> thanx talkin to him now
[02:27] <Cheezwhiz> I may have actually found my new hobby....or project...whatever you wanna call it
[02:28] <anthonyb7> ANY BODY HERE USING OR HAVE USED BACK TRACK 3?????
[02:28] <genii> Geez, caps Batman!
[02:29] <Cheezwhiz> Quick Robin, Pass me the Bat Cap repellant.
[02:29] <Cheezwhiz> wtf is a batcap, Batman?
[02:29] <genii> hehe
[02:29] <MrKennie> I prefer Mermaid Man
[02:30] <anthonyb7> i take the silence as a H**l now
[02:30] <MrKennie> lol
[02:31] <bsrat>  is it easy to set up dualboot with sata drives?
[02:31] <MrKennie> sure
[02:31] <genii> bsrat: A lot easier than two usb drives
[02:31] <bsrat>  i know with ide you set master and slave
[02:31] <histo> !dualboot > bsrat
[02:31] <bsrat> cool - thanks ubottu
[02:32] <histo> !botsnack
[02:32] <Walzmyn> HAR!
[02:32] <MrKennie> I like how apt-get moo still works :)
[02:33] <Cheezwhiz> Alright guys.  Thanks very much for all your help even though the game was a bust.  Gonna go work up something for myself and some friends.
[02:33] <Cheezwhiz> Have fun, be safe, talk to you soon.
[02:33] <MrKennie> cya
[02:34] <Agent_bob> genii got a minute ?
[02:35] <genii> Agent_bob: A couple even, perhaps :)
[02:35] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5d5e9827 <<< have a look
[02:35] <Agent_bob> genii not for bugs.  it works ok here.
[02:36] <genii> looking
[02:38] <Agent_bob> genii as you know i run "nosuid" system   and often don't use partitions on hdds   well anyway, that causes an issue with accessing floppy disks.  users can't mount them.    so i developed that "tarfs" to allow users dirrect affess to fd0 without needing root.   "it works for me."   but i was thinking,  couldn't we develop that into a backup system for hdd partitions too ?
[02:38] <Agent_bob> s/affess/access/ maybe
[02:38] <genii> Agent_bob: Conceivably yes
[02:39] <Agent_bob> what it does is writes a tar archive dirrectly to the device and doesn't use a file system at all
[02:40] <Agent_bob> now.     can you off hand think of any known limitations on that as far as a hdd partition migh be conserned ?
[02:40] <genii> Agent_bob: Yeah I sort of got the gist ;) The idea is sound. Might need some capacity checking routine to make sure the write does not exceed media capacity.
[02:40] <Agent_bob> like would the archive grow too large to be accessable ?   or would it try to write beyond the partition bondaries ?
[02:41] <genii> See above :)
[02:41] <genii> Agent_bob: Yes, as is it would just blindly hit the end and error out
[02:41] <Agent_bob> i have treid it with too much data for a floppy it just clips the end of the archive off... no damage really
[02:42] <genii> Maybe some post-compare for size
[02:42] <Agent_bob> maybe...
[02:43] <Agent_bob> it's not logical to make a local archive and then copy it over if you are going to backup a running system....   but that would even work on the floppies
[02:44] <genii> Spanning would be a good feature
[02:44] <Agent_bob> floppies are so outdated though.  i was just wondering if there was a more "general public" use for it.
[02:44] <Agent_bob> genii i think it can...   tar has that capability and it is totally tar
[02:45] <genii> Agent_bob: Maybe $2 indicates media boundary size before start of second archive/span
[02:46] <Agent_bob> yeah i left $@ open to tar    so one could just add   -M   at the end i think...
[02:46] <Agent_bob> haven't tested that.
[02:48] <Agent_bob> one think that i really like about it.  (the very reason i wrote it) you don't mount or umount    anytime the drive is not active you can eject/insert and go!
[02:50] <Agent_bob> ah genii here's an issue with it.   just testing on other systems and it seems that it may have trouble creating the device node without root.    can you confirm ?
[02:51] <genii> su -c "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh reload" -
[02:51] <genii> Bah stupid touchpad past
[02:51] <genii> *paste
[02:51] <Agent_bob> :)
[02:51]  * Agent_bob impathiZ/w
[02:51] <genii> Agent_bob: I have no devices at hand with floppy atm :(
[02:52] <Agent_bob> not needed just cut out the mknod command and test
[02:52] <genii> Hangon I need to copy/paste into box here
[02:52] <Agent_bob> i only need to know if "nosuid" is my issue or if it would affect a "normal" system
[02:54] <Agent_bob> even with the fact that i will still have to initially set that up on the other boxes   that is one root command and not two per floppy access.
[02:56] <Agent_bob> hmmm floppies are actually a little bigger with tarfs   seeing that it uses the entire disk not just the data area
[02:56] <Agent_bob> and of course everything is gzip'd   so about 4m of plain text fits fine.
[02:58] <genii> Agent_bob: mknod -m 600 ~/floppy.tgz b 2 28   needs sudo or su on this 8.04. On my FBSD (4.8) box it works however. In there I am in wheel group though
[02:58] <genii> wheel = adm/root
[02:59] <Agent_bob> ok.   thanks for the test.
[02:59] <Agent_bob> i'll add that.   even though it "will not work" here.
[03:01] <Agent_bob> added                            !!! this switch requires sudo !!!
[03:07] <genii> Agent_bob: I used to use a file.img that was exactly the size of a full regular sized blank cd. One for each user on the system. Then they were mounted as the users home directory each time they logged in. When the "disk" got full I had it auto mksiofs of it then burn that with cdrecord
[03:08] <genii> *mkisofs
[03:08] <histo> ?
[03:09] <genii> histo: Yes?
[03:09] <_2> interesting.    and with dvd+r  that would go a long ways
[03:09] <genii> _2: And easier to enforce than quota systems
[03:10] <_2> heh  well it was a forced quota alright  :)
[03:10] <Cheezwhiz-AFK> Anyone know of an irc channel dedicated to blender?
[03:10] <genii> Also no recursing to higher file system level is possible
[03:10] <genii> Remove the "no" in that :)
[03:10] <genii> No wait that was correct
[03:11]  * _2 waits for genii to make up his mind...
[03:11] <genii> Um... #blender   ?
[03:11] <Cheezwhiz> Yeah, just tried that.
[03:11] <Cheezwhiz> Didn't quite think that question through
[03:12] <genii> _2: Upon proofreading the original was correct. No recursive cd .. past the start of their home is possible
[03:12] <_2> genii how did you manage that ?
[03:12] <_2> you do mean   cd ..     correct ?
[03:12] <genii> _2: Yes
[03:13] <_2> it sould work from a mounted loop device
[03:13] <_2> should
[03:13] <_2> i'll have to test it...
[03:13] <genii> Hmm.
[03:13] <test> how do i change chanel?
[03:13] <_2> /join #blah
[03:13] <yo> thanks
[03:13] <genii> Turn the dial ;) Seriously however use _2's method
[03:13] <_2> /part #kubuntu
[03:15] <_2> genii want a good laugh ?    "http://www.promotinglinux.com/truth/"  :)))
[03:15] <genii> _2: Yeah I saw that maybe a week or so ago now. Got a lot of responses!
[03:15] <_2> i bet
[03:15] <_2> it's still getting it.
[03:16] <_2> but when someone tries to paten    !=    i mean come on...   what do you expect
[03:16] <genii> hehe
[03:17]  * genii chooses beer
[03:18] <genii> The last one in the house too
[03:18] <_2> "turn the knob"  you know it's been 20 years sense i've see a TV with that kind of controls.
[03:18] <_2> and i still prefer them.
[03:19] <genii> _2: We had here for a long time a "Space Command" old 1976 TV. When you changed channels on the remote, it had it's own dial. Then the dial on the tv also turned when you did that.
[03:19] <genii> We broke it of course
[03:19] <_2> yep.  seen them.
[03:20] <_2> also saw the remote that had the cord and two buttons   up channel and down channel.
[03:20] <genii> Yes, very retro now
[03:20]  * genii hands dr_Willis a coffee (or beer if you like)
[03:21] <_2> doc take it.  it's his last one  :)))
[03:22] <fulat2k> any idea why power manager applet doesn't get loaded?
[03:22] <_2> well i'll get back "on topic" and stop "trolling"  :)
[03:22] <genii> fulat2k: You're not on a laptop?
[03:23] <_2> fulat2k not without more info.    i could make a few weak guesses   acpi support failing to load ?     switched off in the kdm settings.... ???
[03:23] <_2> ati chip set   even
[03:23] <fulat2k> _2: on a laptop.  thing is, sometimes it loads and sometimes it doesn't.
[03:24] <fulat2k> _2: how can i check acpi status?
[03:24] <_2> ok.  sounds like a race condition
[03:24] <_2> maybe add another symlink to acpid in your runlevel  a few notches up
[03:24] <genii> fulat2k: Do you have some odd option in your kernel loading line like: notsc     ?
[03:25] <_2> and if that sounds like i'm speeking g33k   then ignore me.
[03:25] <genii> notsc (no time-stamp counter) causes multicore cpu to enter race conditions
[03:25] <fulat2k> _2: currently acpid is S10... together with powernowd.early
[03:26] <fulat2k> genii: nothing of that sort.  no additional kernel parms
[03:26] <_2> fulat2k try making it 8
[03:26] <_2> that's S08 you know
[03:26] <fulat2k> _2: ok...
[03:26] <fulat2k> which is weird as i've never touched these symlinks
[03:27] <_2> ah my moto
[03:27] <Ricardo_0617> good evening
[03:27] <fulat2k> wokay, done.  have to test it at the next reboot
[03:27]  * _2 has a moto "default is only a sujested starting poing, on the long road to right"
[03:27] <Ricardo_0617> which kubuntu version should I use??
[03:28] <dr_Willis> Depends on your needs.
[03:28] <Ricardo_0617> can someboyd help me?
[03:28] <dr_Willis> 8.04.1 is the latest LTS release I belive.
[03:28] <_2> Ricardo_0617 most will tell you "latest"  that would be 8.4
[03:28] <Ricardo_0617> why the kde4 version is only comunity-supported?
[03:28] <genii> Ricardo_0617: The 8.04 version, rgular livecd first. If that one fails to install get the Alternate and try that
[03:28] <dr_Willis> Because kde4 is a work in progress sort of thing.
[03:29] <fulat2k> _2: default should be something working and not killing itself :)
[03:29] <Ricardo_0617> is kde unstable?
[03:29] <Ricardo_0617> *kde4
[03:29] <dynoll3> hi
[03:29] <dr_Willis> Depends on what you are going to do with it i guess
[03:29] <_2> fulat2k so you set that up for all hardware everywhere.   you go ahead and do that....
[03:29] <genii> Ricardo_0617: It's a matter of some debate. But the consensus seems to be "yes it's currently unstable"
[03:29] <dr_Willis> !kde4
[03:29] <_2> fulat2k in the mean time i'll stand by my moto
[03:30] <Ricardo_0617> can I install mac os software in linux?
[03:30] <dynoll3> I have a virus on windows that disabled my command to change my desktop picture
[03:30] <dr_Willis> That sounds like a rather weird virus...
[03:30] <Alex135> Ricardo_0617 not really
[03:30] <dynoll3> someone know how to reactive it?
[03:30] <_2> lol dynoll3    :)
[03:30] <dynoll3> lol
[03:30] <dr_Willis> reformat/reinstall
[03:31] <_2> clamav might ?
[03:31] <dynoll3> now my picutre is: GET AN ANTIVIRUS
[03:31] <dynoll3> lol
[03:31] <_2> kewl.
[03:31] <Alex135> insert windows recovery CD and reinstall over previous installation
[03:31] <dynoll3> and i scanned the file
[03:31] <dynoll3> i dont have the windows cd
[03:31] <dr_Willis> scanned 'what' file ?
[03:31] <Alex135> then screw windows and go full to linux
[03:31] <Alex135> :D
[03:31] <dynoll3> the file i downloaded
[03:31] <antum> Hi, my kubuntu computer just crashed... and now I get a blank screen after booting up.... I can boot into recovery mode and get command line... but I don't know what to do?
[03:32] <dynoll3> loll
[03:32] <fulat2k> _2: to each, their own dude :)  whatever works for us :P
[03:32] <_2> dr_Willis Y the .exe files he dl'd and entered the admin password to run, of course :)
[03:32] <dynoll3> windows is to play some game
[03:32] <dr_Willis> _2,  and clicked 10 times on the 'UAE' dialog?
[03:32] <dynoll3> and if i dont im on linux :D
[03:32] <_2> [i accept]
[03:33] <genii> antum: You have only kubuntu on it and not windows or some dual-boot?
[03:33] <dynoll3> its funny... the virus is named : joke_bluescreen... or something like that
[03:33] <antum> genii yep just kubuntu
[03:33] <dynoll3> i hate windows for that... the virus
[03:34] <dynoll3> but... nobody know how to reactive a command? like the one to set a desktop picture?
[03:34] <dynoll3> on windows
[03:34] <_2> dynoll3 not a change it will work  but have you tried  ctrl+alt+del   and see if it would let you remove it ?      you never know, it might just be a joke.
[03:34] <antum> Is there a log file I can look at to look for problems booting the windows manager?
[03:34] <dynoll3> ya i tried but i dont know what are all the stuff running
[03:34] <genii> antum: Do you know offhand if the / partition is /dev/sda1  ? If so then:  fsck /dev/sda1            if not sure then report result of: grep sda1 /etc/fstab
[03:35] <_2> dynoll3 if the virii and worms is the only thing you have to "hate" windows for, may i offer the "EULA" for some fine reading.... ?
[03:35] <genii> antum: Disk scan as I just recommended is probably best first option, then forensics afterwards
[03:35] <dynoll3> EULA?
[03:36] <_2> end user license agreement
[03:36] <genii> aka "We have you by the short and curlies"
[03:36] <_2> the contract you signed to get M$ to let you use their soft ware
[03:36] <dynoll3> ohh
[03:37] <antum> It says WARNING!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause severe damage? I thought I typed fsck....
[03:37] <antum> Do i press y... or n?
[03:37] <genii> antum: You are certian before hitting Yes that you are in Recovery kernel?
[03:37] <_2> antum fsck is a shell wraper for several *fsck* apps
[03:38] <antum> Yes... if I boot in the normal mode it just goes blank... so it's safe to run?
[03:38] <genii> antum: Yes
[03:38] <_2> antum and i would sujest making sure that it's readonly first.
[03:38] <genii> _2: Recovery mode automatically does mount it ro
[03:39] <_2> genii    : > boo       would make sure.
[03:39] <antum> ok, I got some errors straight away... I can't copy and paste them :(  the first one is about a Bad magic number in super-block
[03:39] <genii> uhoh not good
[03:39] <_2> nope
[03:39] <antum> damn!
[03:39] <antum> do i need to re-install... how could this have happened?
[03:40] <Sakui> I installed kubuntu and the installer didn't install the bootloader, what can I do to fix this?
[03:40] <genii> antum: It smells like hd failure is beginning
[03:41] <antum> damn, looks like I'll have to try another computer and start from scratch =(
[03:41] <genii> Sakui: Did you use wubi or did you have some other linux system with lilo or did you tell it to install grub onto some device like: /dev/sda1 instead of just /dev/sda  ?
[03:42] <_2> !grub | Sakui short annswer
[03:42] <genii> antum: Is this a laptop which ran out of battery and just died?
[03:42] <jawee> How do I set my login screen to be at the correct screen refresh rate? It is at 60Hz, but when I login to KDE I get 75Hz, which is correct
[03:43] <genii> jawee: With great difficulty
[03:43] <dr_Willis> how are you even telling the rates differ? is this a crt? or lcd?
[03:44] <ign0ramus> hey all
[03:44] <antum> genii nope- are there any other tools that can check the hard drive for me?
[03:44] <genii> antum: There is a very good diagnotics cd which boots, called Ultimate Boot CD (UBCD for short) it has manufacturer specific diagnostics
[03:45] <ign0ramus> can anyone tell me why Firefox3 on Hardy displays ticked checkboxes as only a (larger than before) square?  Only after clicking "submit" or whatever, does there show an actual "x" in the checkbox?
[03:45] <antum> genii yeah I've actually heard of that... I might give it a go... thanks for your help!
[03:45] <jawee> genii: Why would it be?
[03:45] <jawee> is there not just an easy way to set it for kdm?
[03:46] <genii> jawee: No easy way to separately configure the resolution and display settings of the login manager, correct.
[03:46] <dr_Willis> ign0ramus,  ive noticed that also on some web sites.
[03:46] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: so no workaround/solution?
[03:46] <ign0ramus> not a deal-breaker, just annoying
[03:46] <genii> jawee: Resolution by itself can be done by a "virtual" entry in xorg.conf
[03:46] <dr_Willis> ign0ramus,  not that i have seen. it seems to depend on the site also.
[03:47] <ign0ramus> right you are. as usual :P
[03:47] <_2> antum smart-notifier - graphical hard disk health status notifier     maybe not.    testdisk - Partition scanner and disk recovery tool      maybe not.      e2fsprogs - ext2 file system utilities and libraries   <<< contains e2fsck badblocks  and freinds... you have it already.
[03:47] <jawee> genii: My monitor distorts at the wrong refresh rate. I have put up with it for a while, and I'm trying to get everything working exactly right
[03:47] <jawee> that is the last thing on my list
[03:47] <jawee> eh, I'll figure it out
[03:48] <antum> _2 :) thanks for that list
[03:49] <mr---t-> ign0ramus:  I run into this often, I find if you click again near the box after clicking the x will appear
[03:49] <_2> jawee used to be that you could just edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set it there.  but someone said that xorg now ignores that.
[03:49] <ign0ramus> mr--t-: that's kind of weird.  at least i'm not the only one.
[03:50] <BluesKaj> the new xserver-xorg skips alot of important option IMO
[03:50] <jawee> Well, I'll ask this. If I have a 75Hz refresh rate in KDE, what is that in Horizontal and Vertical refresh rate?
[03:50] <genii> jawee: Research indicates the "virtual" parameter does not support refresh rate argument, otherwise I would suggest it
[03:51] <_2> genii what's that command to list all the xrandr settings ?
[03:51] <jawee> so is it common to have a distorted kdm/gdm?
[03:51] <ign0ramus> mr--t-: just logged into my hotmail account (had it since '98), and your "click near" method does reveal the tick-mark
[03:52] <jawee> eh, let me try this.
[03:52] <_2> jawee it's not common for a monitor to distort 60hz piriod
[03:52] <mr---t-> yeah I was doning on;ine testing and w/o the marks Iwas nervous
[03:53] <mr---t-> at least it's a work around
[03:53] <nandan> hoe do i install ffmpeg vlc player
[03:53] <nandan> ne one pls help
[03:53] <ign0ramus> mr--t-: apparently its a known issue on launchpad - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk-qt-engine/+bug/220575/
[03:55] <_2> apt-cache search [ffmpeg,vlc]
[03:55] <genii> nandan: There is no "ffmpeg vlc" player. They are two separate items
[03:56] <mr---t-> ign0ramus: thanx for the info
[03:56] <_2> well that didn't go so well....   sorry.
[03:56] <ign0ramus> i didn't know that bot had launchpad capabilities!  how do i feed it?
[03:56] <genii> ign0ramus: Carefully ;)
[03:56] <ign0ramus> :)
[03:56] <genii> ign0ramus: !botsnack
[03:57] <_2> !info ffmpeg | nandan
[03:57] <_2> !info vlc | nandan
[03:57] <ign0ramus> thx genii
[03:58] <genii> ign0ramus: np :)
[03:59] <_2> !helpersnack | genii
[03:59]  * genii munches
[04:04] <ign0ramus> mr--t- : If you change your GTK apps to use Raleigh instead of KDE style, it fixes the radio button/checkbox issue.  Don't know how it will affect your display, though.  Firefox is my only GTK app, and it looks normal otherwise
[04:04] <dr_Willis> kde style? Hmmm...
[04:04] <mr---t-> thanx
[04:05] <dr_Willis> Im using jwm. Heh - not kde and i see the issue.. or do i? Hmmm..
[04:05] <genii> I have gtk-qt-engine which enforces kde themes as much as possible onto gtk (like ff) apps. Don't seem to have this blank checkbox thingy
[04:05] <dr_Willis> actually i recall seeing it on my other machine thts running gnome also.
[04:06] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: not too sure, but it works on my machine.  switching to Qt-Curve also works, but borks my font sizes
[04:07] <dr_Willis> I was at one goverment site today. and noticed a lot of quirks in firefox.. Not sure if it was FF's fault. or the web sites...
[04:07] <dr_Willis> May been th sites fault.
[04:07] <ign0ramus> genii: i also have that package installed- do you have your GTK apps set to use KDE Styles in Kcontrol?
[04:08] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: i've also noticed a lot of text or boxes (particularly flash) that seem to get truncated or cut off, like a entire row of pixels is missing
[04:08] <genii> ign0ramus: Yes. And i run the default theme from install
[04:08] <genii> (oxygen I think)
[04:09] <ign0ramus> genii: maybe its my theme, then.  either way, i got the results i wanted!
[04:09] <genii> Good :)
[04:18] <mr---t-> ign0ramus: I tried raliegh and it didn't work for me
[04:18] <stride> what package do I need to stream winamp-like playlists?
[04:18] <dr_Willis> !info icecast
[04:18] <posingaspopular> stride: is that m3u?
[04:18] <dr_Willis> Hmm...
[04:19] <ign0ramus> mr--t-: hmmm.. do you have gtk-qt-engine installed?
[04:19] <stride> posingaspopular: yes
[04:19] <dr_Willis> thers some shoutcast - type clone.. but i forget its name
[04:19] <mr---t-> yes
[04:19] <ign0ramus> stride: doesn't vlc do m3u and pls ?
[04:20] <posingaspopular> ummm m3u can be played in amarok as welll
[04:20] <stride> I was hoping that I can play them in Amarok though.
[04:21] <stride> I get the error no available decoder
[04:21] <_2> there is obviously a shorter way to do this http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d58210550 who can tell me what it is ?
[04:21] <ign0ramus> mr--t-: that's strange. on launchpad, the suggested fix is to use a style other than your KDE - qtcurve and raleigh both enabled the tick boxes.  you restarted FF3, right?
[04:22] <mr---t-> oh no
[04:22] <dr_Willis> _2,  i would say some sort of array/hash/ but i dont know enough bash to know how to do it in bash.
[04:23] <mr---t-> I'l have to try it later then because I can't close it right now , I'm streaming
[04:23] <ign0ramus> haha
[04:24] <_2> dr_Willis yeah.   that's my problem    plus it couldn't be bashism and be fully portable.
[04:24] <dr_Willis> You cant start modifying the question now! :)
[04:25] <dr_Willis> actually i though bash had some sort of array feature.. or could fake them..
[04:25] <_2> it does.  and so does  /bin/sh  (posix compliant)
[04:26] <_2> all i was saying is it's in a  #!/bin/sh  not a  #!/bin/bash
[04:26] <nandan_> i am not able to insatll firefox 3 on my dapper drake its the tar.bz2 file which doessn't configure
[04:26] <nandan_> help
[04:26] <dr_Willis> Im missing somthing then.. you just said sh had the feature...
[04:26] <ign0ramus> nandan_: it's not in the repositories?
[04:26] <dr_Willis> for dapper - its not...
[04:27] <dr_Willis> I think.
[04:27] <dr_Willis> I think one can use the precompiled binaries at the firefox site.
[04:27] <dr_Willis> !firefox3
[04:27] <ign0ramus> nandan_ : you can always pastebin your output....
[04:27] <ICM> Hey, what's the best wifi connection app for KDE?
[04:27] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. i think i saw some dapper discussion of ff3 the other day.
[04:28] <_2> dr_Willis "bashism" is a referance to things that work in "bash only"   not posix compliant shells.     like glob arrays and so forth
[04:28] <ICM> so I don't have to run through the iwconfig command line to connect to my network
[04:28] <ign0ramus> icm: what's wrong with knetworkmanager?
[04:28] <ICM> it doesn't show my wireless card :o
[04:28] <ign0ramus> icm: then you can try wicd
[04:28] <nandan_> ignOrmus:bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[04:28] <ICM> Hey, there we go, I'm a moron
[04:28] <ICM> KNetworkManager works <_<
[04:28] <ign0ramus> icm: :)
[04:28] <nandan_> thts what it says
[04:28] <ICM> helps if I right click it >_<
[04:29] <ign0ramus> nandan_ : and your in the install directory?  if yes, then it probably runs an sh setup
[04:30] <_2> nandan_ does it have an install.sh or something
[04:30] <dr_Willis> nandan_,  check the forums yet? theres a thread or 2 on FF3 with dapper.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=847484
[04:30] <ign0ramus> you're*    - i know better than that!
[04:30] <fulat2k> _2: the change in startup sequence for acpid didn't work :(
[04:31] <_2> fulat2k hmmm    ok.     and it only happens "some of the time"  ?
[04:31] <fulat2k> _2: yup
[04:32] <nandan_> there is only a run-mozilla.sh file
[04:32] <_2> fulat2k if it's not a race with acpid/hald i don't know why it would be hit and miss
[04:33] <ign0ramus> nandan_: read the post from dr_willis - it won't compile properly anyway due to your version of gtk... they seem to have a workaround, though.  get your reading glasses ready!
[04:33] <_2> fulat2k maybe move it to S26   and test.
[04:33] <_2> fulat2k you'll have to move the powernowd too
[04:35] <nandan_> igorOramus:dr_willis:thank u for the link
[04:35] <fulat2k> _2: alrite.. here we go..
[04:39] <nandan_> ignOrmus:can get some help in insatlling vlc player
[04:40] <dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:40] <dr_Willis> ?
[04:41] <nandan_> dr_willis:
[04:41] <nandan_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:41] <nandan_> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:41] <nandan_> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[04:41] <dr_Willis> !info vlc
[04:41] <dr_Willis> its in multiverse, under hardy at least.
[04:42] <nandan_> dr_willis:
[04:42] <nandan_> i use dapper
[04:43] <nandan_> it says ffmpeg codec missing
[04:43] <dr_Willis> good luck.. I dont use dapper any more.
[04:43] <_2> can someone with a little more background in kde power manager   have a shot at fulat2k's  issue please ?
[04:43] <dr_Willis> :)
[04:44] <dr_Willis> the severas repos may have the proper ffmpeg stuff for vlc. ben ages sicne ive used dapper.
[04:45] <_2> nandan_ the package   ffmpeg  is avalable in dapper.    but you may need the w32codecs package from seveas
[04:45] <nandan_> _2:how do i get it
[04:45] <_2> there was a multimedia page on the forums
[04:46] <_2> or wiki
[04:46] <dr_Willis> !w32codecs
[04:46] <dr_Willis> !severas
[04:52] <_2> !seveas
[05:03] <DevilDude> i need help please!
[05:04] <_2> third door on your left down the hall.  says men on the door
[05:04] <pushax> state the problem and maybe someone wiill reply
[05:04] <_2> err i mean you'll have to be more specific
[05:07] <shaffy> can somone tell me how I leave my K-desktop and enter strictly "terminal mode"?  i want to shutdown K and unount all drives so i can run a fsck.
[05:08] <_2> ctrl+alt+f1   use ctrl+alt+f7  to return to the gui
[05:08] <shaffy> _2:  but will my my root not still be mounted?  i need to run fsck.ext3 on it, but this is risky if it is mounted.
[05:09] <_2> shaffy note.  you can not dismount /   you have to   mount -no remount,ro /
[05:10] <_2> always be sure to test    :> boo    if it doesn't error out with can't write to readonly file system  then don't force an fsck
[05:10] <genii> shaffy: logout. use kdm to login to console. Then stop kdm. Then enter init level 1. Then the command _2 suggests. Then fsck. Then the command again but rw this time. Then init 2
[05:11]  * genii sips
[05:11] <_2> genii it's normally advised to reboot after a forced check on the root fs,
[05:11] <shaffy> genii: how do i stop kdm?  and what is "init level 1"  is that ctrl-alt-f1?
[05:11] <genii> _2 True, true
[05:11] <genii> shaffy: No, init level 1 is single user mode
[05:12] <genii> Anyhow thats the basic procedure except maybe use 6 instead of 2 at the end
[05:12] <_2> shaffy as genii sujests    just issuing the command    sudo init 1   will get you to that point
[05:12] <shaffy> and how do i stop kdm?
[05:12] <_2> shaffy as genii sujests    just issuing the command    sudo init 1   will get you to that point
[05:13] <_2> init can kill anything but the kernel
[05:14] <_2> well techencally i guess when it gets to the halt/reboot command it does even kill the kernel
[05:14] <genii> Yup
[05:14] <pentti> I fouled up and now my other user can't start KDE - "no write access to /home/user/.ICEauthority"
[05:15] <shaffy> so, when i enter "sudo init 1", this automatically kills everything but the kernel?
[05:15] <_2> shaffy yep
[05:15] <shaffy> and after "sudo init 2" do i just reboot?
[05:15] <genii> shaffy: No, 6
[05:16] <shaffy> okay, 6.
[05:16] <_2> if you don't want to play nice   you could even    sudo kill -9 -1       but that's messy.
[05:16] <shaffy> do i just reboot then?
[05:16] <genii> That reboots it auto
[05:16]  * _2 shouldn't even mention things like that i guess.
[05:16] <shaffy> okay, i'mm try this out.  talk to you all soon.
[05:17] <pentti> what is that ICEauthority anyways?
[05:17] <_2> xserver socket
[05:17] <_2> err no i think that's only a lockfile
[05:17] <khaije1> i'm tryin to install galleon, does anyone know if there is a deb/ubuntu equivalence for chkconfig
[05:17] <khaije1> ?
[05:18] <_2> khaije1 the bot knows
[05:18] <_2> !info galleon
[05:18] <khaije1> !chkconfig
[05:18] <mb15432> does kubuntu/ubuntu 64 bit have problems installing with an nvidia 8500gt
[05:18] <_2> !find galleon
[05:18] <khaije1> _2: lol 0 for 2
[05:19] <genii> Thats not a bad RPG
[05:19] <_2> khaije1 that's not a miss   that's a positive confirmation,
[05:19] <genii> !info galeon
[05:19] <khaije1> _2: i'm looking for the Tivo add-on server... wha?
[05:19] <genii> pytivo or somesuch?
[05:20] <khaije1> _2: not the web browser,  unavoidably confusing
[05:20] <_2> genii i agree.  and easy to cheet if you like to do that kind of thing.   i have the charictors so edited it's not funny any more.
[05:21] <khaije1> genii: never heard of that, stw now
[05:21] <_2> !packages | khaije1 you can search the database for your self too.
[05:22] <genii> khaije1: That factoid was not intended for you. It was for _2. If it did not appear in red, it was not directed towards you or intended for a comment on your question or situation in any way
[05:22] <DevilDude> i need help guys
[05:22] <DevilDude> plzz
[05:23] <_2> DevilDude not until you learn to ask a question other than "will someone help me?"
[05:23] <DevilDude> hehehe...sori
[05:23] <_2> it just aint gonna happen
[05:23] <DevilDude> im having problem conneting to lan
[05:23] <khaije1> genii:  you really know how to get a guy attention, i appreciate the recommendation for pytivo, i think i'll use that instead. Galleon is nice but it's setup is more geared toward red-hat systems
[05:23] <_2> DevilDude wireless ?
[05:23] <khaije1> !pytivo
[05:23] <khaije1> np np
[05:24] <genii> khaije1: I do not find pytivo in the repositories, but a friend here uses it
[05:25] <DevilDude> nope
[05:25] <DevilDude> cable
[05:25] <DevilDude> i added new lan card
[05:25] <khaije1> genii: mkay cool
[05:25] <DevilDude> but the new lan card wont work
[05:25] <genii> khaije1: http://pytivo.armooo.net/wiki/LinuxInstall
[05:25] <_2> DevilDude ok.   what are you connecting to ?    router ?   kvm switch hub ?    other box ?
[05:26] <DevilDude> switch hub
[05:26] <DevilDude> 3com
[05:26] <_2> ok.
[05:26] <_2> now lets see what kind of hardware we are talking about.
[05:27] <DevilDude> i inputed the ips and all...but still wont function
[05:27] <_2> DevilDude you know about pastebin ?
[05:27] <DevilDude> errr...nope :(
[05:27] <_2> !paste | DevilDude
[05:28] <DevilDude> ohh...i'm using windows right now ...
[05:28] <_2> DevilDude open a knosole and run this command    lshw -C network
[05:28] <_2> then pastebin the output
[05:28] <DevilDude> i dont know how to connect irc in linux..hehehe
[05:28] <_2> oh
[05:28] <_2> never mind that then
[05:28] <_2> irc clients for linux
[05:28] <_2> !irc
[05:29] <_2> DevilDude see the info here  ^
[05:29] <DevilDude> ok
[05:29] <DevilDude> i have a nose bleed right now...lolz
[05:29] <DevilDude> can we talk in YM?
[05:29] <_2> it's the high altatude in here
[05:29] <_2> no
[05:30] <DevilDude> oh...
[05:30] <DevilDude> just a sec
[05:30] <_2> basicly what you can do from windows is this.
[05:30] <DevilDude> what u mean?
[05:31] <_2> you can check the supported hardware page on the wiki  and you can google for your particular card/chipset
[05:32] <DevilDude> lshw -C network ----i think i done this yesterday.and found two interface card
[05:32] <_2> normally eth issues are about as simple as finding the right module and modprobing it.     then using the network manager of your choice to setup the ip
[05:32] <DevilDude> ok...1st think 1st
[05:33] <DevilDude> i need to connect to irc in linux 1st so that i can communicate with u
[05:33] <_2> yep
[05:33] <DevilDude> so what should i do? how to connect irc?
[05:34] <DevilDude> i need login and pass for the irc...its says my name is already taken
[05:34] <nandan_> kaffeine not giving any sound output.....i use dapper....ne ideas
[05:34] <_2> you are talking about a lan   that assumes there is more than one local boxen.   maybe use one that you can chat on and work on the other one ?
[05:35] <DevilDude> i can use the other lan to connect the net
[05:35] <_2> nandan_ i have an idea that i have the same issue with dapper and kaggeine
[05:35] <_2> nandan_ so i don't use kaffeine
[05:36] <nandan_> _2 :i tried to install the latest vlc for that but it requires ffmpeg
[05:36] <nandan_> _2:which doesnt install too
[05:37] <DevilDude> _2: how can i connect to irc?
[05:37] <_2> i have and use vlc in dapper   what exactly is the desired end ?
[05:37] <_2> @ nandan_ ^
[05:37] <_2> DevilDude from kubuntu  konversation
[05:37] <Guiri> Are there Amarok 2 builds in repo yet anywhere? I just installed the KDE4 community version of kubuntu and it looks like I'm on 1.4 still
[05:37] <_2> DevilDude from ubuntu xchat
[05:37] <Guiri> Thanks in advance
[05:38] <nandan_> _2:i installed w32 codec as u said
[05:38] <_2> nandan_ yeah.  and what doesn't work ?    and what are you trying to do ?
[05:38] <DevilDude> it needs my name to be registered..how?
[05:39] <_2> !register
[05:39] <nandan_> _2:i am trying to play my videos......but when i configure vlc it says ffmpeg codecs missing
[05:40] <_2> hmmm   you have the ffmpeg package installed ?
[05:40] <kunixos> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[05:40] <nandan_> _2:its not in the repositories for dapper
[05:41] <kunixos> if you have medibuntu repositories enabled
[05:41] <corvolino> algum responsavel pelo projeto kubuntu-br?
[05:41] <_2> yes it is
[05:41] <_2> unless you are using 64 bit
[05:41] <ivan_> hi how do i install icon?
[05:41] <_2> on 32 bit it's in universe
[05:41] <kunixos> anyone have problems with multiple desktops?
[05:41] <kunixos> mine don't work anymore
[05:41] <nandan_> _2:nope its 32 bit i suppose
[05:41] <_2> and there is an update in   http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe
[05:42] <_2> nandan_ i have it installed and looking at it.   maybe you don't have universe and security-universe enabled ?
[05:42] <nandan_> _2:jus min lemme check it out
[05:43] <_2> nandan_ i'll pastebin my sources.list if you want a referance
[05:43] <nandan_> _2:sure thing
[05:43] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2076e67a
[05:45] <_2> and i have the vlc from the repos  haven't had problems with it.   execpt it was a boogger to get it to play "copy protected" dvd's  with the new protocal
[05:46] <_2> i finally just got dvdrip setup where i could rip them to hdd and play them from there.
[05:47] <DevilDude> how can i join this server again?
[05:47] <nandan_> _2:how do i enable universe
[05:47] <_2> nandan_ the sources.list file in /etc/apt/
[05:47] <_2> after you change it.  sudo apt-get update
[05:47] <_2> DevilDude /server irc.freenode.net
[05:48] <_2> DevilDude /join #kubuntu
[05:48] <DevilDude> how to join a room?
[05:48] <DevilDude> ok
[05:48] <DevilDude> hjehehe
[05:48] <DevilDude> tnx
[05:48] <DevilDude> ill try to connect
[05:48] <_2> :)
[05:48] <kevinO> khello
[05:49] <kevinO> klol
[05:49] <_2> kk
[05:50] <nandan_> _2:it says permission denied
[05:50] <_2> nandan_ that's cause you didn't use root
[05:50] <_2> !sudo | nandan_
[05:50] <_2> !kdesu | nandan_
[05:52] <_2> well some one call the ops, that troll is abusing the bot again.
[05:52] <_2> :)
[05:57]  * genii sips
[05:59] <nandan_> _2: i am in as root
[06:00] <nandan_> _2:i have my adept manager open what should i look for
[06:02] <_2> nandan_ repositories ?    software sources ?
[06:02] <_2> i don't use adept.   how do i know.
[06:03] <nandan_> _2:i am lookin at ur pastebin
[06:04] <nandan_> _2 : what do i do next
[06:04] <_2> nandan_ that's a copy of my /etc/apt/sources.list   make yours somewhat resemble it
[06:05] <_2> then refresh the package manager.   or out side of adept   sudo apt-get update
[06:05] <Guiri> is there a program that'll give me an easy system stat display on my desktop? something like an embedded top? I used to know it's name
[06:05] <Guiri> I think it starts with an 'A'
[06:05] <_2> super-karumba ?
[06:06] <_2> karamba - A program improving the eyecandy of KDE
[06:06] <_2> superkaramba - a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE
[06:06] <Guiri> No
[06:07] <Guiri> no eye candy. this is something that's more cmomand line
[06:07] <Guiri> but embedded
[06:07] <Guiri> hmm
[06:07] <Guiri> maybe I'll look on lynucs
[06:07] <_2> not embeded
[06:08] <Guiri> conky
[06:08] <Guiri> !conky
[06:08] <Guiri> Hey! skype finally works with pulse audio in this distribution. Fedora could never get it working for me
[06:09] <_2> Guiri maybe you didn't understand,  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5240aacd
[06:09] <_2> or maybe i didn't.
[06:09] <_2> !info conky
[06:12] <_2> nandan_ about to get it ?
[06:13] <_2> well.  i'm out for a while.    gooday and good luck to your pinguin.
[06:13] <Guiri> thanks
[06:36] <simi> hi, can you tell me how to list the kernel modules that are loaded?
[06:37] <eternauta> I think it is lsmod
[06:40] <eternauta> Hello, my /etc/hosts doesnt resolve localhost right, can somebody help me?
[06:40] <simi> eternauta:  it lists many modules , i will try to identify them because i want to clean up my system, in my /etc/modules i have just fuse and lp
[06:42] <eternauta> you can filter them with | grep somethingyoulookfor
[06:47] <fr05tbyt3> hello
[06:51] <posingaspopular> eternauta: wcat /etc/hosts and then put that on pastebin
[06:51] <posingaspopular> !paste
[06:54] <eternauta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29861/
[06:54] <eternauta> I ve already done it posingaspopular
[06:55] <eternauta> I can explain the file (or what I am trying to do) if you need
[07:06] <olskolirc> is there a fix for kdmtheme so that we can load login screens?
[07:07] <olskolirc> im working so If i appear slow to respond, im on the phone
[07:07] <olskolirc> call meeeeeeeeee :-)
[07:21] <simi> hi, i want to compile a new kernel but i seen that the ubuntu kernels have ubuntu patches, what are does patches? will a kernel from kernel.org work on ubuntu or must be patced?
[07:22] <jussi01> !kernel | simi
[07:54] <chackal_sjc> hey guys
[07:54] <chackal_sjc> one stuff
[07:54] <chackal_sjc> newbie stuff
[07:54] <chackal_sjc> how can I update my firefox to 3.0.1?
[07:55] <chackal_sjc> because when i use firefox as root user to update it.. it says that it's already updated.. but steel 3.0
[08:00] <streetz> hi
[08:01] <streetz> i need some help, where is the option that allows me to have different workspaces?
[08:01] <streetz> kubuntu 8.04
[08:03] <streetz> anyone?
[08:04] <jussi01> streetz: I dont understand yur question - the multiple workspaces are there by default
[08:05] <jussi01> streetz: you can access them with the changer in you taskbar
[08:05] <streetz> well, i cant, im looking everywhere, and the windows that are opened in one desktop, show up in the other ones
[08:06] <streetz> i do the multiple desktops, but I always get stuck with 1, might be a bug, im not sure
[08:06] <fulat2k> anyone here managed to run desktop-effects-kde4?
[08:07] <jussi01> fulat2k: Id suggest that be asked in #kubuntu-kde4
[08:07] <fulat2k> jussi01: alrite
[08:07] <eternauta> how can I do to change 127.0.0.1 to resolve to something different localhost? I added 127.0.0.1 myhostname to /etc/hosts but doesnt work, any help?
[08:09] <streetz> fuck it... im reinstalling
[08:11] <olskolirc> is there a fix for kdmtheme so that we can load login screens?
[08:12] <muzzledk> Anyone know how the directory entry table should be implemented as a linked list?
[08:12] <muzzledk> for ext2 :)
[08:12] <muzzledk> specific how should one end the linked list?
[08:42] <muzzledk> Anyone know how the directory entry table should be implemented as a linked list?
[08:42] <muzzledk> specific how should one end the linked list?
[08:42] <muzzledk> for ext2 :)
[09:12] <chris____> hi i am trying to update my girlfriends laptop to 8.04. I initialized the process through apt's kde frontend. The machine get's stuck when it comes to locales generation. I had it sitting here over night an the machine couldn't even finish to build one locale.
[09:13] <pag> chris____, you're not the only one who has encountered that problem
[09:13] <chris____> can i force the system to skip the locale update an go on with the rest of the packages
[09:13] <chris____> pag: is there a best practise to solve it?
[09:15] <pag> chris____, dunno about 'the best', I know couple of tricks that might help
[09:15] <chris____> i appreciate any hint
[09:15] <pag> chris____, for example killing the graphical frontend and finishing the upgrade via command line
[09:16] <chris____> is it sufficient to kill kdm?
[09:17] <pag> chris____, ctrl+alt+esc and click on the graphical updater – no need to kill all the desktop
[09:18] <chris____> i currently have an system that cant start kde. so i logged into a terminal session and executed apt-get update there.
[09:18] <chris____> graphical updater killed long ago and rebooted several times
[09:19] <chris____> than i follow the message to use dpkg --configure -a
[09:19] <chris____> as apt states that dpkg was interrupted
[09:19] <pag> !aptfix | chris____
[09:19] <chris____> when entering the above command it sits there forever pretending to generate locales
[09:20] <chris____> sudo dpkg --configure -a is running
[09:20] <fatalerror90123> hey all
[09:20] <chris____> after the reboot i get no more lock message.
[09:21] <fatalerror90123> im new to ubuntu hows everyone
[09:21] <chris____> so i will know what to do next time instead of a reboot :)
[09:21] <pag> chris____, apparantly it would like real root piveledges, not sudo-ones – boot into recovery mode with grub and start the dpkg --configure -a  again
[09:21] <chris____> i have logged in the console. did sudo su
[09:22] <chris____> whoami says i am root
[09:22] <chris____> when executing dpkg --configure -a it states: setting up locales (2.7.9-4) ...
[09:23] <chris____> generating locales...
[09:23] <chris____> en_AU.UTF-8 ...
[09:23] <pag> chris____, try it still – people seem to got it working that way
[09:23] <chris____> and there it is. cursor flashing
[09:23] <chris____> no movement
[09:24] <pag> chris____, also booting into earlier kernel seem to do the job
[09:24] <chris____> so you suggest to use sudo dpkg... instead of getting root by using sudo su before
[09:24] <chris____> i will try both
[09:26] <chris____> how long should it take to generate a single locale on a p4 mobile at about 2.2 ghz?
[09:26] <pag> chris____, if it works – less than 30 s
[09:27] <chris____> sudo didn't do the trick
[09:27] <chris____> i am going to reboot the machine. god that i have my laptop still up and running to look out for help :)
[09:28] <chris____> was a tough thing to convince my girlfriend to try linux. thinks like that don't make my life easier in that regard :(
[09:28] <jaakkome> I was stupid and loaded the "new" ati drivers from their webpage. Now everything sucks. Can somebody help me purge everything and return to the version in the ubuntu restricted repository?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:32] <chris____> starting older kernel in recovery mode seems to get locale generation working :)
[09:34] <DjDarkman> hello, a recent kernel update broke my webcam driver? what should I do, is this a kown issue?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> DjDarkman: what cam is it?
[09:48] <Greenery> is there any alternative application that works like ActivStudio in linux?
[09:49] <fatalerror90123> hey, i just downloaded ubuntu, and i want to learn how to hack, where can i go
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> fatalerror90123: research network operability
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> fatalerror90123: and how protocols work
[09:51] <fatalerror90123> ok
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Greenery: whats activstudio?
[09:51] <fatalerror90123> ya, i wanted to learn hwo to hack, and heard to first get linux
[09:51] <fatalerror90123> so i got this
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> fatalerror90123: you can use any OS
[09:52] <Greenery> activstudio, an application that works like blackboard but using computer under a specialised projector board
[09:52] <fatalerror90123> ya, i just heard linux is the way to go, i already got windows xp, but just put this on another partition
[09:53] <Greenery> it simply manipulates activboard using the specialised projector board
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Greenery: thats way over my head dude, Id try websearching
[09:56] <Greenery> i did try, but no luck. oh well
[09:57] <Agent_bob> i wonder if i can resize my root filesystem to make space for a partition...
[09:57] <Agent_bob> prolly not huh ?
[09:58] <chris____> i was asked if i want to use proprietary drivers. i choosed to do so for the nvidia graphics card on the laptop. now i get only a black screen instead of kde login :(
[09:59] <chris____> how can i fall back to standard graphics driver again?
[10:00] <quentin> are you comfortable with the shell?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> chris____: reboot, press ESC when grub is loading and choose failsafe
[10:00] <Agent_bob> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow   should let you do that
[10:01] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip does failsafe automaticly probide a way to reset his xorg for the next boot up  or will he still have to reconfigure it ?
[10:01] <DjDarkman> ActionParsnip: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0ac8:303b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0303 WebCam
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: he can edit it once hes in failsafe
[10:01] <quentin> If yes, you can do that: switch to a virtual console: crtl+Alt+Fx where x is an integer between 1 and 6
[10:02] <DjDarkman> strange thing that it works on my laptop....
[10:02] <Agent_bob> so short asnwer is "no"    k.
[10:02] <quentin> then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: the xorg.conf file can be editted to be vesa driver instead of nvidia
[10:02] <quentin> with whatever you like (vi, emacs, nano...)
[10:02] <Agent_bob> he could do that with out reboot
[10:03] <quentin> if you like to do so with vi: sudo su
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> DjDarkman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=583132&highlight=ZC0303+WebCam&page=2
[10:03] <quentin> to get high :)
[10:03] <chris____> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow does this command do the same or das it change more than this single entry in xorg.conf?
[10:03] <Agent_bob> quentin nano is default.
[10:03] <quentin> Agent_bob: and it sucks :)
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: true but im giving him a gui instead of a scary black screen he may be less familiar with
[10:04] <quentin> but ok, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:04] <Agent_bob> quentin so does vi  :)))
[10:04] <quentin> Agent_bob: not true :) a VI power user owns the shell :)
[10:04] <Agent_bob> chris____ it asks you a few questions about how you want it setup
[10:05] <chris____> i know my way arround in vim :)
[10:05] <amerigo> ! psp
[10:05] <Agent_bob> quentin wasn't true about nano either
[10:05] <chris____> at least the basics
[10:06] <quentin> chris__ great :) so vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf look for nvidia
[10:06] <jaakkome> I "upgraded" fglrx and things got worse. How can I get the old version back?
[10:06] <quentin> you should find a line like that: Driver          "nvidia"
[10:06] <quentin> under device section
[10:06] <quentin> then change it to nv
[10:07] <quentin> wich is the open source driver name if I remember well
[10:07] <quentin> *h
[10:07] <quentin> if it fails to load X it means that you have to fall back to vesa driver
[10:08] <chris____> ahh wiht nv i get my login screen back
[10:08] <chris____> is this normal to have such trouble with a stable release? i am fine coming here and know a bit arrount on the console. but for my girlfriend it is horror.
[10:08] <chris____> i suggested kubuntu as a stable system to her
[10:09] <amerigo> somebody knows where I can find information about PSP and PS2?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: www.sony.com
[10:09] <quentin> chris__ I dunno, I'm a new kubuntu user, I prefer Gentoo distro but I had no time to recompile a whole system for my laptop
[10:09] <amerigo> I need to change cip to run unofficial program/games
[10:10] <amerigo> I think that sony cannot help me
[10:10] <quentin> regarding the stability of the nvidia drivers, you should consider that the proprietary drivers are the same all the distros
[10:11] <quentin> so fedora, mandriva, gentoo, debian ... would issue the same problem
[10:11] <quentin> But it could be interesting to check the log to know what was the error
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> quentin: no idea, i use envyng as it works for my system. Its unsupported however
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> quentin: there are drivers on the repos
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | quentin
[10:13] <quentin> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep [EE]
[10:13] <Agent_bob> useless use of cat
[10:13] <quentin> thanks all, I know that :). Btw, I'm using these drivers and everything works fine
[10:13] <Agent_bob> grep '[EE]' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: it has infinite uses
[10:13] <quentin> just trying to help chris__
[10:13] <quentin> :)
[10:14] <Agent_bob> it's also not needed to read a file ActionParsnip
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: if the guy is happier that way then let him. More than 1 way to skin a cat
[10:15]  * Agent_bob has defured a felion or two
[10:15] <quentin> I dunno if this the best way to do this but cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep [EE] works
[10:15] <quentin> :)
[10:15] <chris____> was there a change in 8.04 how wireless is handled? i have an atheros card here. before i could join my wpa securred wlan. now knetworkmanager doesnt show any networks. iwlist ath0 scanning shows networks which knetworkmanager doesn't. and i have a new interface wifi0 i can't remember to have it seen before.
[10:15] <quentin> your way :grep 'EE' file is better
[10:15] <quentin> more elegant :)
[10:16] <quentin> ty Agent_bob
[10:16] <Agent_bob> quentin you should at least protect the glob from shell expansion  '[EE]'    shell will try to expand [EE] before passing it to grep without the single quotes
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> chris____: i manually edit /etc/network/interfaces personally
[10:17] <amerigo> I need to change chip or make hardware change to run unofficial program/games on PSP and PS2
[10:17] <quentin> Agent_bob: 'yep', my bad :).
[10:17] <amerigo> Nobody knows where I can find a Tutorial?
[10:17] <quentin> + errors are reported like that (EE) and not [EE]
[10:17] <quentin> uhuh
[10:17] <chris____> ActionParsnip: i used knetworkmanager to connect to wpa secured network. for me it was easier than using wpa supplicant. now without knetworkmanager showing the wirelessnetworks i am kinda helpless
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> chris____: try this sort of thing http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[10:19] <Agent_bob> quentin want to see my latest script ?
[10:19] <quentin> Agent_bob: sure. What language?
[10:20] <Agent_bob> shell
[10:20] <quentin> k
[10:20] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d631a1693
[10:20] <Agent_bob> tarfs    ^
[10:20] <chris____> ActionParsnip: that stuff is not wireless related. i know how to set gateway, ip addresse etc wiht ifconfig. but i am stuck when it comes to setup wpa. and i would like to have a graphical interace to show my girl.
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> chris____: once its setup you dont need it again
[10:21] <quentin> love the "exit 42" :)
[10:21] <Agent_bob> quentin if you notice each error has it's own exit code   easier to debug
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> chris____: http://vollink.com/gary/deb_wifi.html
[10:21] <chris____> ActionParsnip: thought that way. now it turned out the wireless card discontinued to work.
[10:22] <Agent_bob> and yeah  42 $HOME  not set
[10:24] <fatalerror90123> ;
[10:24] <quentin> Agent_bob: There is no way to get all the devices names and partitions?
[10:24] <quentin> why are you listing all hda, hdb,...
[10:24] <quentin> you should be able to get the list from somewhere (/dev/ listing maybe)
[10:24] <Agent_bob> it's not all.  it's testing to see if the user wants to setup a hard drive archiver
[10:25] <Agent_bob> you may not have noticed what it did.  and yes there are other ways to do that.   but not anything more effecient that i could find.   remember what udev does when you start probing /dev/
[10:26] <quentin> I don't know what udev do when probing /dev/. What happens?
[10:27] <Agent_bob> it tries to insert modules for everything that isn't already there and make the device node...  i don't wan that
[10:27] <Agent_bob> t
[10:27] <quentin> ok
[10:27] <Agent_bob> and i totally agree that case loop is too long.
[10:28] <Agent_bob> but hey if it works...  and it's only used to set the thing up.
[10:28] <quentin> there should be a way. I know that grub is able to list the devices, so it should be a way to do this.
[10:28] <Agent_bob> the other functions should by hature be used a lot more.
[10:28] <Apple_cat> Hey, are there any known problems with 8.04 ? I'm having a few problems atm
[10:29] <Apple_cat> *with dual screens
[10:29] <quentin> Anynway, did I mention that this a very nice script? Cause it is
[10:29] <quentin> :)
[10:29] <Agent_bob> well thank you.
[10:31] <Agent_bob> quentin now let me explain the reason for it.   i run a nosuid system and that script lets normal users access the floppy drive without a root login.    (but as you might have guessed root has to set up the initial device node)
[10:32] <Agent_bob> but making the floppy drive a tar archive and writing dirrectly too it.  there is no mount process to worry about.
[10:32] <chris____> which ui should i use to see all available wireless networks?
[10:32] <Agent_bob> s/but/by/
[10:32] <Agent_bob> Apple_cat several.   search the wiki and see if yours is there
[10:34] <Apple_cat> I've heard people saying that manually editing xorg.conf is of no use now, is this true? Or only up to a point
[10:36] <Agent_bob> Apple_cat i would like to know the details of that myself.   i'm still using dapper
[10:36] <Apple_cat> 0.0?
[10:37] <Apple_cat> *asks question about that in kubuntu-offtopic*
[10:38] <Agent_bob> Apple_cat hehhe.  come back and tell me when you find out   lol
[10:38] <quentin> Agent_bob: nice done. Don't know what to say except: nice done. :)
[10:38] <Apple_cat> Will do, but I was also interested in why you're still using dapper
[10:41] <Agent_bob> Apple_cat a better question might be "why i switched from mandrake 10"     short answer is i'm one of those guys that hates change.   "if it aint broke....
[10:41] <Agent_bob> configure it"
[10:41] <Agent_bob> err you know what i mean
[10:42] <Apple_cat> Sure... Up to a point I guess : P
[10:42] <Agent_bob> Apple_cat i don't do windows.    "BUT" i still have a copy of win95 on one box "wintendo" you know.
[10:43] <Apple_cat> You know you want to continue talking about this in offtopic ? My offtopic senses are tingling
[10:44]  * Agent_bob <grumbles> makes the reluctant trip to ot </grumbles>
[10:47] <quentin> Agent_bob: didn't find anything interesting in grub for device listing but a regexp should do the trick : ls /dev/ | grep '^[hs]d[A-Za-z][0-9]'
[10:48] <quentin> should list hd sd something
[10:48] <Agent_bob> quentin i think it reads streight from bios
[10:48] <Agent_bob> casue it's os independant
[10:50] <quentin> Agent_bob: ls /dev/ | grep '^[hs]d[A-Za-z][0-9]*' I forgot the *, cause you need to get hda too
[10:50] <jaakkome> How can I remove the kernel modules installed by the ati proprietary driver installed thing?
[10:52] <Agent_bob> quentin ls -l /dev/hd*    but you will have to cut it in to chunks.   and it's still going to take as long as the long case loop
[10:54] <quentin> Agent_bob:yep...
[10:55] <quentin> Agent_bob: but it'a done in 1 line and may be more esay to maintain
[10:55] <quentin> *s
[10:55] <quentin> s*
[10:55] <Agent_bob> are you sure you can set the major and minor for any hd?#  to a variable in one line ?
[10:56] <Agent_bob> you have to read the users input and make a device node for what they specify     if you write it i'll use it.   else i'm sticking with the case loop.
[10:57] <Agent_bob> one could in theory depend on "MAKEDEV" i guess
[11:00] <quentin> Agent_bob: right, I forgot about D="X X'". but it's interesting. I'll try to see if it's possible.
[11:00] <Agent_bob> oh and i purposely omited scsi devices.   figured the first thing that someone would do is test it on their usb stick.
[11:01] <Agent_bob> it could be used there   "at least in theory"  but they will froget why the stick isn't formated and ....   you know the rest of that story.
[11:01] <marco> a
[11:01] <quentin> Agent_bob: oh yes..
[11:02] <quentin> Agent_bob: format, loss of datas, cries...
[11:02] <Agent_bob> yep...
[11:03] <quentin> Agent_bob: is there a way to contact you if I don't find you here?
[11:03] <Agent_bob> quentin not really.
[11:03] <quentin> Agent_bob: I will try to see if it's possible to shorten this case loop
[11:04] <Agent_bob> quentin i'm  _2 and intelikey also.   depending on how i feel and where i am.... :)
[11:04] <Agent_bob> so if you come looking for me   remember that i may not be who i am
[11:04] <quentin> Agent_bob: ok.
[11:06] <quentin> Agent_bob: "exit 42" will be enough to challenge the "whoIamSpeakingTo?"
[11:06] <Agent_bob> :)
[11:06] <quentin> cya
[11:06] <Agent_bob> shalom
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> tis quiet
[11:50] <Agent_bob> it was
[11:50] <Agent_bob> :)
[11:51] <Agent_bob> i just strained my brain in offtopic  and i don't think a soul read it....
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> insane in the brain strain
[11:53] <Agent_bob> in the rain
[11:54] <Agent_bob> maybe if i start asking about warez it will wake someone up ?
[11:55] <Agent_bob> so where can i get a free copy of windarz ?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> you need to downdrive some tinterwebby sites to your bluetooth hd widescreen
[11:56] <Agent_bob> anybody want to buy some cheep movies ?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> service pack 19B
[11:57] <Agent_bob> crap. that one did set an alarm off.
[11:57] <Agent_bob> anyway.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> paste your xorg.conf ;)
[11:57] <Agent_bob> might be fun to troll ##windows a little while
[11:57] <Agent_bob> :)
[11:58] <Agent_bob> that would wake up a floodbot   wouldn't it
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> yeah i like him, hes cool
[11:58] <Agent_bob> /exec -o cat /dev/urandom
[12:01] <Agent_bob> !`$(`$(`$(`$(`$(`$(`$(`$(^H<E2><89><D1>AZ)`)`)`)`)`)`)`)`)`)`)`
[12:02] <Agent_bob> jussi01 must be away...
[12:02] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: erm
[12:02] <Agent_bob> hi ya Tm_T
[12:02] <Agent_bob> got anything we can fix ?
[12:03] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: nah, just making sure you behave
[12:03] <Agent_bob> you know i do....    sorta
[12:03] <quentin> back :)
[12:03] <Agent_bob> i see
[12:03] <quentin> :)
[12:03] <Tm_T> quentin: please don't use awaynicks
[12:04] <quentin> Tm_T: why?
[12:04] <Tm_T> quentin: it clutters channels
[12:04] <Agent_bob> quentin sorry about that.  i woke up the ops...
[12:04] <Tm_T> !away | quentin
[12:04] <quentin> ok, thanks
[12:05] <quentin> will do that :)
[12:05] <Tm_T> quentin: appreciate it :)
[12:05] <quentin> Agent_bob: how do you get the D values: I mean, what is this:  D="22 72" and how do you get it?
[12:06] <Agent_bob> quentin it's the major and minor device codes
[12:07] <Agent_bob> quentin  ls -l /dev/hda   will show you   or sda
[12:07] <Agent_bob> sda will be 8 0   hda will be 3 0
[12:07] <quentin> Agento_bob: ok :)
[12:08] <Agent_bob> ls -l /dev/ram0   will be 1 0
[12:08] <Agent_bob> slow cause i had to make sure i remembered that one.
[12:09] <Agent_bob> quentin you never had to make by hand a device node before ?
[12:10] <Agent_bob> anyway  man mknod   has a very breif synapsis
[12:12] <quentin> Agent_bob: Never, I'm studying Telecommunications. And my knowledge in operating system consists in the 40 first pages of the Tannenbaum book
[12:13] <Agent_bob> :)
[12:13] <quentin> must go eat ++
[12:13] <Agent_bob> but see you have schooling.   i'm  a self made moron
[12:16] <Agent_bob> quentin heres an example.   but it's not worth a lot when it comes to setting the  D=   ** ( ls -l /dev/hda | cut -b23-28 | tr -d ',' ) **
[12:17] <Agent_bob> main reason i say that.  is....   i'll get back to that.
[12:22] <Agent_bob> quentin here.  i wont let local users use this because it's dangerous.   but you wanted to shorten the first case loop   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7f36f4ad    that's shorter.   thing is it allows sd devices as well.
[12:25] <numemtl> someone in french for helping me for installing my wifi card thx
[12:28] <Agent_bob> !fr | numemtl maybe in there
[12:29] <Agent_bob> merci booko<!/sp>
[12:29] <numemtl> merci
[12:30] <Agent_bob> quentin this one is a little safer.  but still not acceptable to me.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d20462519
[12:35] <Agent_bob> quentin this will eliminate scsi devices so it's acceptable for now.    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5d1b38c5    "more than one way to defur a felion"  :)))
[12:50] <sancho21> anybody know how to install pg cluster in debian family including ubuntu?
[13:16] <bertholdt> What is this "kubuntu" stuff anyway? Some sort of food, right?
[13:19] <aorkwa> !kubuntu | bertholdt
[13:20] <bertholdt> Oh, thanks! Look pretty interesting. Can I run it on Windows XP?
[13:21] <Tm_T> bertholdt: well, its whole operating system and applications in it, so, umm, it runs instead of Windows XP
[13:21] <Tm_T> BUT you can install it without touching your Windows, even install it from Windows
[13:22] <bertholdt> No shit! Is that actually possible?
[13:22] <Tm_T> or use it without installing it
[13:22] <Tm_T> bertholdt: yes
[13:22] <bertholdt> Now you're joking, right? At least I have to install, no?
[13:23] <Tm_T> bertholdt: no, not joking, you can run it from cd, if you don't like to install it
[13:23] <bertholdt> Now THAT I have simply just GOT to see!
[13:23] <Tm_T> then feel free to try :)
[13:24] <bertholdt> How about PDA, is there a version usable in a HP Ipaq also?
[13:25] <Tm_T> bertholdt: sorry no, also HP usually doesn't give details of their hardware so you cannot do operating systems and/or drivers for their devices easily
[13:25] <Tm_T> bertholdt: but for some models there is Linux systems installable
[13:25] <Tm_T> bertholdt: http://www.kubuntu.org/tour
[13:27] <bertholdt> Ah, such a shame! I think it absolutely S***S with the OS I got when i bought it.
[13:27] <Tm_T> bertholdt: Windows Mobile is quite nasty, yes
[13:28] <Tm_T> bertholdt: but lets try to keep language in nice level ;)
[13:29] <bertholdt> Luckily there is a hole in the bottom where the pen fits neatly for a convinient reset every now and then! ;-)
[13:29] <Tm_T> yeah, I know the feeling
[13:30] <bertholdt> Sadly it is also my cellphone... NOT good!
[13:30] <bertholdt> My beloved Siemens M35 finaly gave up on me...
[13:30] <Tm_T> bertholdt: thats why I bought Openmoko Freerunner, no limitations :)
[13:30] <Tm_T> bertholdt: anyway, I suggest you to download and burn livecd and try it
[13:31] <berkes> is openmoko out for consumers then, finally?
[13:32] <Tm_T> berkes: yes, though software isn't "for mainstream" yet
[13:32] <Tm_T> bertholdt: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[13:32] <Nyad> Hi, what command must I type in to see a list of all installed software on my pc via the command line?
[13:32] <Tm_T> Nyad: dpkg --get-selections
[13:33] <Nyad> thanks Tm_T, your dynamite!
[13:33] <bertholdt> openmoko seems really interesting!
[13:33] <Tm_T> Nyad: be warned, it's a looong list, you propably would like to get it into text file, if so, do this: dpkg --get-selections > textfile.txt
[13:34] <Nyad> tnx, I just piped it to less
[13:34] <Tm_T> heh, that's good too
[13:35] <Tm_T> Nyad: though, as you can see, it lists also what have been uninstalled, so you might like to grep if needed
[13:36] <Jucato> "dpkg -l" too
[13:37] <Nyad> Tm_T,  so I type  something like ,   dpkg --get-selections | grep install | less
[13:37] <Tm_T> I bet there's other methods too
[13:37] <Tm_T> Nyad: yes
[13:38] <Nyad> that still gives me all the deinstall packages
[13:38] <Jucato> use "grep -v deinstall"
[13:38] <Tm_T> nngh, yeah
[13:39]  * Tm_T is trying to do his work so isn't fully with you guys
[13:40] <Nyad> Jucato, that works nicely, but now if I have say more than just install and deinstall, how do I force grep to pick up complete words called install?
[13:40] <Jucato> Nyad: grep install | grep -v deinstall :)
[13:41] <Tm_T> Nyad: or use regexp
[13:41] <Nyad> ya but what if I had more than just 2 things in the list, say I had 100 words that have 'install' inside them, then it would be too long
[13:42] <Tm_T> Nyad: grep -e '\ install' ?
[13:42] <Tm_T> or even grep -e '\ install\ '
[13:43] <Nyad> for example I may have 'install5', 'deinstall' , 'fakeinstall', 'oddinstall' and 'install'   in a list, how do I grab only that 'install'  and not the others
[13:44] <Tm_T> no, not -e but -G I think
[13:44] <ahox> Tm_T: um, no, but grep ' \binstall$' would work
[13:44] <ahox> Tm_T: sry, grep -e ' \binstall$' would work
[13:44] <Nyad> it does, thanks
[13:45] <ahox> Nyad: I assume you still want to show the imaginary installed package names install....
[13:45] <serhat> ..
[13:46] <Nyad> ahox, imaginary names?
[13:46] <Tm_T> ahox: ah, true
[13:46] <ahox> Nyad: I meant just in case there is a package named install
[13:47] <Nyad> oh right
[13:47] <Nyad> yes
[13:47] <Jucato> "checkinstall"
[13:57] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[14:00] <Nyad> hi, if I have a free ext3 partition with nothing on it and I copy my whole kubuntu installation off of my one drive onto that one and I change grub's menu.lst to allow me to boot off of that kernel, will it work?
[14:01] <Tm_T> Nyad: also fstab and stuff
[14:02] <garysteinert> im trying to install kdelibsfrom svn, as described in http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Unstable_Version but i keep getting 'Phonon library not found' i have installed the libphonon packages as well as the phonon package but still the same error
[14:02] <garysteinert> any ideas?
[14:02] <Nyad> ok so theres nothing special that goes on when you install linux onto an hd, it just installs a bootloader and tells a few files to point to the right place etc, no special sectors on the hd have to be changed
[14:02] <garysteinert> am i missing a package?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Nyad:  on the same pc..should work ok . I used GParted to ghost from one drive to another , it's simple and effective .
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Nyad:  check this tutorial http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/move/move.htm
[14:12] <tictric_> garysteinert: kdesupport
[14:12] <tictric_> you need to checkout and compile as well
[14:19] <garysteinert> titric: thanks, i forgot about that channel
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Nyad: you there ?
[14:25] <Nyad> thanks BluesKaj, sorry I had to shower
[14:26] <Nyad> that's so easy BluesKaj, great link
[14:42]  * genii sips his coffee
[14:44] <BooVeMan_work> hi genii
[14:45] <genii> BooVeMan_work: Hiya
[14:46] <BooVeMan_work> genii: quiet around here noone to babysit - you have an outcome of that carib909 guy?
[14:47] <elpez> hello.. can anyone please help me out with my java?.. i was updating it and it doesn't work anymore...
[14:47] <genii> BooVeMan_work: by the time I got back later that night he was gone again, haven't seen him since
[14:49] <genii> elpez: You were trying to update it from a download from Sun for instance, and not through Adept? (package manager)
[14:50] <genii> Or the entire computer was updating and afterwards java didn't work?
[14:50] <elpez> yes
[14:51] <elpez> genii i followed this page http://www.java.com/es/download/help/5000010500.xml
[14:51] <elpez> i downloaded a .bin
[14:52] <elpez> because the java testing tool said my vesion was old... and some pages didn't quite work right
[14:53] <elpez> sorry... the link is in spanish... here it is in english... http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml
[14:53] <itscodyxx> Okay, I am having a problem. I attempted to open a program (KUser) and it states 'su returned with an error'
[14:55] <__hw__> If I open an encrypted attchment with kmail and select "Open with KGPG" where is the decrypted contents stored?
[14:55] <shadowhywind>  hay all wondering if someone could help. I started audacious today, and it is completely yellow.....
[14:55] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: I highly recommend to install the openJDK from adept
[14:56] <itscodyxx> I got into my /etc/sudoers file, but I don't know how to save it in terminal after editing it.
[14:56] <BooVeMan_work> itscodyxx: you DO NOT edit sudoers directly - use visudo
[14:57] <itscodyxx> I did.
[14:57] <itscodyxx> Here is what I did:
[14:57] <BooVeMan_work> itscodyxx: :wq
[14:58] <elpez> BooVeMan_work it appears as installed... but nothing javaish will work
[14:59] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: did you check sudo update-alternatives --config java afterwards
[15:00] <itscodyxx> I typed in su then visudo then added myself. Through itscodyxx   ALL=(ALL) ALL
[15:01] <elpez> BooVeMan_work no... i didn't
[15:01] <emons> hi guys is there REV ?
[15:01] <BooVeMan_work> itscodyxx: if you have finished editing just type :wq and you are there
[15:01] <itscodyxx> oh, okay, I'll try that. Thank you very much
[15:01] <marius> hi to all
[15:02] <BooVeMan_work> emons: not in the users list...
[15:02] <elpez> BooVeMan_work i did that.. and selected openjdk
[15:02] <BooVeMan_work> test java now
[15:02] <marius> could anyone tell me a torrent to install?
[15:02] <emons> yes but he might be under another nick
[15:03] <emons> thatz y i asked...
[15:03] <BooVeMan_work> f.e. java --version in the console
[15:03] <marius> i have kt torrent
[15:03] <emons> here he is
[15:03] <marius> but i don't like it!
[15:04] <itscodyxx> After I press :wq and enter, it just breaks onto another line with the insert prompt still at the bottom
[15:04] <BooVeMan_work> marius: azareus
[15:05] <BooVeMan_work> itscodyxx: hahaha -. almost - just hit esc before that ...
[15:05] <simi> hi, i have a pentium 3 procesor, what famili is this ?Pentium clasic Pentium MAX or pentium PRo?
[15:05] <simi> pentium MMX?
[15:05] <itscodyxx> Okay, thank you very much
[15:05] <marius> thanks BooVeMan
[15:06] <BluesKaj> marius:  ktorrent is similar to utorrent (windows) , but there's an alternative called transmission
[15:06] <itscodyxx> And su still returned with an error
[15:06] <elpez> BooVeMan_work nope... "Java Runtime Environment is not working on your system"
[15:06] <BluesKaj> azureus is ahog
[15:06] <Pici> itscodyxx: You're just trying to use su?
[15:07] <ncfi1013> is there anybody that can help me figure out how to get an ilo mp3 player to work in either windows or linux, to recognize the icon for the mp3 player the way that they both recognize an ipod?
[15:07] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: something definatly is screwed on your system
[15:07] <genii> back
[15:08] <itscodyxx> Okay, so I am back to editing the sudoers file.
[15:08] <itscodyxx> I just added my username again
[15:08] <itscodyxx> After this, I do I simply hit escape then :wq?
[15:09] <elpez> BooVeMan_work :( any ideas?
[15:09] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: try this: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/ + cd $JAVA_HOME + java --version
[15:09] <BooVeMan_work> itscodyxx: what error do you see EXACTLY?
[15:10] <genii> elpez: I would recommend in Konsole: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[15:11] <itscodyxx> Okay, here is the background to my story: Yesterday, I was attempting to install a .deb file with KPackage, and it prompted me to give my password, when I did, it said there was an error. Today, I attempted to open both KUser and Synaptic, and here is the exact error I received: 'Su returned with an error'
[15:11] <ncfi1013> is there anybody that can help me figure out how to get an ilo mp3 player to work in either windows or linux, to recognize the icon for the mp3 player the way that they both recognize an ipod?
[15:12] <ahox> itscodyxx: su and not sudo? Whats your distribution?
[15:12] <elpez> BooVeMan_work java version "1.6.0" +  OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09) +OpenJDK Server VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode)
[15:12] <itscodyxx> I am using Freespire Linux 2.0.8
[15:13] <z0d14k> In gutsy I used to use ksynaptics to make my ultra-sensitive touchpad berable.  It is gone in Hardy.  There are more settings in System Configuration, but not hear enough.  Any ideas?
[15:13] <elpez> genii i have those packages already :S
[15:13] <ahox> itscodyxx: can you still use su from the terminal?
[15:13] <itscodyxx> yes
[15:13] <z0d14k> Specifically I miss the prevent unwanted taps feature.
[15:13] <genii> BooVeMan_work: Ah, didn't see you were working on elpez's issue :)
[15:13] <ahox> and you gave your root pw?
[15:14] <itscodyxx> yes
[15:14] <ahox> can you run aptitude install ?
[15:14] <itscodyxx> What is that?
[15:14] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: for the time beeing i?d recommend to put that export line (only that) into youir .bash_profile - I have no better idea for the mioment
[15:15] <ahox> aptitude is an frontend for dpkg
[15:15] <ahox> and install just tells it to do any pending jobs
[15:15] <jeroen-> anyone else had problems with the new kernel in hardy-proposed?
[15:15] <ahox> I suspect that your deb db is broken
[15:15] <itscodyxx> Oh, like apt-get?
[15:15] <ahox> yes
[15:15] <itscodyxx> I'll try
[15:17] <itscodyxx> I ran it under sudo, and in terminal window, it said 'must be setuid root'
[15:18] <ncfi1013> is there anybody that can help me figure out how to get an ilo mp3 player to work in either windows or linux, to recognize the icon for the mp3 player the way that they both recognize an ipod?
[15:18] <z0d14k> ncfi1013: What is the ilo?  Is that a brand or model?
[15:18] <elpez> BooVeMan_work ok.... thanx
[15:19] <ncfi1013> ilo is the brand
[15:19] <elpez> BooVeMan_work you think i should reinstall the whole kubuntu thing because of this?
[15:19] <ncfi1013> lower grade mp3 player than the ipod
[15:20] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: no - if it works with that does no harm - If you have more time later (upgrading to 8.10) i?d suggest a reinstall
[15:21] <BooVeMan_work> ncfi1013: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+ilo+mp3 is all I can offer
[15:22] <elpez> BooVeMan_work ... but the test page still says i have no java on my system :(
[15:23] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: thats an plugin-issue? you are on Firefox?
[15:23] <genii> elpez: Have you shut down and restarted your broswer after these changes?
[15:23] <elpez> yes
[15:23] <elpez> yes
[15:24] <elpez> both questions have affirmative answers, genii and BooVeMan_work
[15:24] <ncfi1013> thanx BooVeMan all i was looking for was ANYTHING that would help bcuz i have an ipod and i don't have the same problems as the owner of this crappy mp3 player does which is why he he enlisted me to help him with his problem bcuz, for example, he doesn't even know the difference between upload and download...ha ha
[15:25] <BooVeMan_work> in ff opening about:plugins shows a java plugin installed?
[15:25] <itscodyxx> Do you think I should go into recovery mode and try it out?
[15:26] <histo> itscodyxx: I think you should ask the freespire people.
[15:26] <elpez> BooVeMan_work :$ nope
[15:26] <histo> itscodyxx: since thats what you are running
[15:27] <itscodyxx> I tried to register at their forums, but I never got a verification email. Therefore, I can't post in the forums
[15:27] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: try removing and reinstalling the java-plugin
[15:28] <BooVeMan_work> and is that FF2 or FF3?
[15:28] <elpez> BooVeMan_work FF3...
[15:29] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: just to make sure - when i said java plugin that would include GCJ Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea) 1.0 - however it does not say java directly
[15:30] <itscodyxx> Okay, I found the problem
[15:30] <itscodyxx> Thank you very much though
[15:30] <elpez> BooVeMan_work no wonder i can't find it :)
[15:31]  * BooVeMan_work thinks that it would have been the least one could aks from itscodyxx to report what the problem was...
[15:34] <elpez> BooVeMan_work its just gcjwebplugin?
[15:34] <elpez> or icedtea-gcjwebplugin ?
[15:36] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: I think that would be icedtea-gcjwebplugin
[15:36] <elpez> ok
[15:44] <elpez> BooVeMan_work ... too bad.. still no java plugin in about:plugins
[15:46] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: can you paste the outcome of an ls -l /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/ into pastebin?
[15:48] <elpez> BooVeMan_work http://pastebin.com/m4a00c9ae
[15:48] <elpez> there it appears to be
[15:49] <BluesKaj> elpez, check adept , all one needs is kubuntu-restricted-extras ..it contains what you need
[15:50] <BooVeMan_work> BluesKaj: it seems to be installe dfine - but only dioes not showup
[15:51] <BluesKaj> if you have too many java versions , you have conficts which cripple java
[15:51] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[15:52] <elpez> BlueSkaj what should i do?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> elpez look in adept , all you need is sun-java6-bin, sun java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin ..all are part of kubuntu restricted-extras package .
[15:54] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: before that try a sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner-addons-javaplugin.so
[15:54] <BluesKaj> err kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:55] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: sorry should read sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so
[15:56]  * BluesKaj backs off...too many cooks 
[16:00] <ironman__> Hi f@lks
[16:00] <elpez> nothing yet
[16:00] <BluesKaj> elpez , do you have the medibuntu repos on your sources.list
[16:01] <elpez> yes
[16:01] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: do you have alternatives in the update-alternatives to choose from?
[16:01] <ironman__> need a little help with kopete somebody available??
[16:01] <elpez>           1    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[16:01] <elpez> *+        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/gcjwebplugin.so
[16:01] <elpez> those are my alternatives
[16:02] <ironman__> Anybody woulde help with kopete pls??
[16:02] <rav> ironman: what do you need?
[16:02] <ironman__> tks rav
[16:03] <ironman__> i was working without problems chatting with MSN folks
[16:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> ironman__: just ask your question
[16:03] <ironman__> but 2 days ago a got the conecction closed
[16:04] <BluesKaj> elpez:  run this , sudo update-alternatives --config java , then choose this one , /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[16:04] <ironman__> got conecction close and dont send messages
[16:05] <ironman__> what that means?
[16:05] <rav> ironman: i doubt it's a kopete problem, i was logged on to msn last night
[16:05] <ironman__> any idea what else could be?
[16:06] <ironman__> ive alñready uninstall kopete end the reinstall but same problem got
[16:06] <rav> maybe msn was blocked in your ISP, as at the place I work
[16:06] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: Follow BluesKaj - and select option 1 for the plugin as well
[16:07] <ironman__> mmm could be tks i go to check
[16:07] <elpez> ok done
[16:08] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: result of your test page?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> BooVeMan_work:  dam* java , certainly a PITA
[16:08] <BooVeMan_work> BluesKaj: my daily bread - java developper...
[16:09] <squid0> hey. I'm on a shared wifi network, and I can only connect with windows. there was something about a hex address where there's a setup script, which you can input in the dialogs for network settings in windows, but which I can't find in linux. what do I do? I don't want to be stuck on using windows!
[16:09] <BluesKaj> like I said , work can be a PITA sometimes :)
[16:09] <elpez> BooVeMan, BlueSkaj "Java is not working on your system"
[16:10] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: about:plugins still without java?
[16:11] <elpez> BooVeMan, yup
[16:11] <TobeMan777> Hi all. I have a graphical problem connected to the use of VLC player...
[16:11] <BluesKaj> elpez:  hmm sounds like he needs a java housecleaning , and a java re-install
[16:11] <elpez> BlueSkaj: Yes, please :D
[16:11] <TobeMan777> is this the right "forum" to ask about graphical problems in Ubuntu?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> TobeMan777: try  #ubuntu
[16:12] <TobeMan777> thanx
[16:12] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: remove anything you have refering java - including the stuff that installed the sun .bin and restart
[16:13] <elpez> BooVeMan_work from adept?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> elpez: yeah , just type in java , then remove all javas listed...that should work .
[16:16] <elpez> BlueSkaj, ok working on it
[16:17] <BooVeMan_work> BluesKaj: elpez tried an installation with a .bin from sun as well - I think that was what screwed the system
[16:17] <rav> how can I uninstall the downloaded deb packaged for skype to use the medibuntu package?
[16:18] <BooVeMan_work> rav: dpkg -- remove skype?
[16:19] <elpez> BooVeMan, BlueSkaj Yes I did, how do I remove that?
[16:19] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: ni idea
[16:19] <elpez> BooVeMan lol
[16:20] <elpez> BooVeMan, BlueSkaj this is looking like a reinstall on the making
[16:21] <elpez> :S
[16:21] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: where you following an howto ?
[16:22] <elpez> yes
[16:22] <elpez> this one:
[16:22] <elpez> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml
[16:25] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: so you installed it into /usr/java¿?
[16:25] <elpez> BooVeMan_work yes i did...was that wrong?
[16:26] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: no - just rm -r /usr/java
[16:26] <amit> hi
[16:26] <amit> what about yahoo messenger
[16:26] <BooVeMan_work> and you follwed the isntructions below to install the plugin?
[16:27] <elpez> BooVeMan_work ok done...that and the adept thing... nothing that appears with the keyword java is installed
[16:27] <elpez> BooVeMan_work.. yes i followed all of it
[16:27] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: and you follwed the isntructions below to install the plugin?
[16:28] <BooVeMan_work> ok we have to clean up that as well
[16:29] <elpez> BooVeMan_work but that is a link only right?
[16:29] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: you installed into /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/plugins?
[16:29] <histo> Thats cool wasn't aware of frostwire installing now
[16:29] <histo> oop swrong room
[16:29] <elpez> BooVeMan_work no, into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[16:30] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: ok remove it there
[16:30] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: did you link the extention as well?
[16:30] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: did you install the extention as well?
[16:31] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: "If you install Firefox 1.5 or later, you can enable the Java Console menu item in the Tools menu. Change directories to the Firefox extensions directory, then unzip ffjcext.zip there. .."
[16:31] <elpez> no.. i didn't do that
[16:31] <elpez> i think i missed it
[16:31] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: good
[16:31] <BooVeMan_work> so i Recon we revertted everything
[16:32] <elpez> :D
[16:32] <elpez> BooVeMan_work =D crossing my fingers
[16:32] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: comment the line i asked you to put in in you .bash_profile, reboot (just to make sure) and come back
[16:32] <lginn02> i installed a theme on superkaramba but when i restarted my pc it wastnt in the list anymore even though it says its still instlled. where did it save it too.
[16:33] <elpez> BooVeMan_work ok... but i didn't put it in there yet
[16:33] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: ok -better still
[16:33] <elpez> BooVeMan_work iĺl just reboot and brb
[16:33] <elpez> BooVeMan_work or no need to?
[16:34] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: no please reboot
[16:34] <elpez> BooVeMan_work ok... just in case i dont make it back (my network sux here) whatd
[16:35] <elpez> BooVeMan_work what should i install?
[16:36] <lginn02> anyone here use SuperKaramba?
[16:36] <BooVeMan_work> your pick between sun-java6 or openJdk - should work both - still most commonly used is sun - and esier to find the plugin (-plugin)
[16:36] <BooVeMan_work> lginn02: nope to bloated
[16:37] <lginn02> what do you mean
[16:37] <elpez> BooVeMan_work ok thanks
[16:37] <elpez> off i go
[16:41] <BluesKaj> BooVeMan_work: the sun source bins never seem to install in the right dir , hence the java conflicts
[16:48] <elpez> BooVeMan_work... i am back.. installed sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin
[16:49] <elpez> BooVeMan_work still doesn't seem to work :(
[16:50] <Nyad> hi, whenever I install something via apt-get I get this message : The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   and it's a huge list. it tells me to use apt-get autoremove, will this be bad, like can it mess things up?
[16:50] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: about:plugins stil wissing the plugin?
[16:50] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: no just do it
[16:50] <histo> Nyad: depends what it wants to remvoe.
[16:51] <ahox> Nyad: It *should* be fine - apt remembers what packages you requested it to install and which one are dependencies because of this
[16:51] <elpez> BooVeMan_work yes.... :(.. makes me want to cry
[16:51] <Nyad> ahox, but if a dependency is removed, then won't my apps stop working?
[16:51] <ahox> Nyad: It wont remove dependencies from still installed apps
[16:52] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: are you 100% positive that you run firefox3 and not firefox2?
[16:52] <elpez> BooVeMan_work yes.... 110%
[16:52] <ahox> Nyad: but say you installed kdevelop, this will install kdevelop-data as a dependency. If you uninstall kdevelop, autoremove will also remove the -data package
[16:52] <elpez> BooVeMan_work FF 3.0.1
[16:52] <Nyad> ahox, I see, what does autoclean do then?
[16:53] <ahox> Nyad: man aptitude:
[16:53] <ahox>        autoclean
[16:53] <ahox>            Removes any cached packages which can no longer be downloaded. This allows you to prevent a cache from growing out of control over
[16:53] <ahox>            time without completely emptying it.
[16:54] <Nyad> thanks ahox
[16:54] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: ok I herewith declare myself "out of ideas" - if noone else picks up I recommend to reinstall - and as a future guideline if you can avoid it do not install anything which is not a deb...
[16:55] <ahox> btw, konqueror has a man kio plugin, just type as an address say man:/ls
[16:55] <Nyad> ahox, I just ran autoremove and some things are removing fine but I get a few of these messages, Removing libflickrnet2.1.5-cil ...
[16:55] <Nyad> Removing libflickrnet2.1.5-cil from Mono
[16:55] <Nyad> W: removing assembly:  failed!
[16:55] <Nyad> W: removing assembly:  failed!
[16:55] <elpez> ok thanx :)
[16:55] <ahox> W is only a warning
[16:55] <elpez> BooVeMan_work thanx
[16:56] <elpez> BooVeMan_work i will heed your advice
[16:56] <_CrashMaster_> !pastebin | ahox, Nyad
[17:00] <ubuntu_> hi everyone
[17:00] <_CrashMaster_> Hello ubuntu_
[17:00] <ubuntu_> i get a read-write error of my disk and i don't know how to check it
[17:00] <ahox> fsck
[17:00] <ubuntu_> i try with fsck but i don't know if it works
[17:01] <histo> !fsck
[17:01] <ubuntu_> i tried on /dev/sda1 which is the instalation partition
[17:02] <ahox> ubuntu_: never use fsck on a mounted partition, use "sudo shutdown -F -r now"
[17:02] <josue4001> hola
[17:02] <ubuntu_> i am not using this partition now, i ran on livecd
[17:03] <josue4001> ubuntu-es
[17:03] <josue4001> alguien q me pueda ayudar
[17:03] <ahox> ubuntu_ : what is the fs?
[17:04] <ubuntu_> the instalation seemed ok, but then while working (downloading updates) gives the disk error and the system freezes
[17:04] <ubuntu_> ext3
[17:04] <ahox> ubuntu_: if it is ext3, try fsck.ext3 -f /dev/sda1
[17:05] <ahox> ubuntu_: sry, sck.ext3 -cf /dev/s
[17:05] <ahox> this also checks for bad blocks
[17:05] <ahox> but be warned, it takes some time
[17:05] <josue4001> spanis
[17:05] <josue4001> please
[17:05] <josue4001> '¿¿¿???
[17:06] <BooVeMan_work> !spanish | josue4001
[17:07] <ubuntu_> ahox: does this autofix the errors?
[17:07] <ahox> ubuntu_: no
[17:07] <ahox> ubuntu_: it will ask you
[17:07] <ubuntu_> ok
[17:08] <ahox> ubuntu_: and I would recommend that you read the messages, if there are more than two bad blocks, get a new HD
[17:08] <ahox> ubuntu_: Unless the data is important for you, then get a new one in case of a single bad block....
[17:08] <ncfi1013> do i need a driver installed for my ilo mp3 player to work? if so where do i go to get this particular driver?
[17:09] <ubuntu_> ahox: fsck.ext3 -cf /dev/s didnt work
[17:09] <ahox> ubuntu_: fsck.ext -cf /dev/sda1 ?
[17:09] <histo> ubuntu_: you have to specify the partition
[17:09] <ubuntu_> ahox: ok
[17:09] <histo> ubuntu_: you are specifying the drive with /dev/sda
[17:09] <histo> ubuntu_: or /dev/sdb
[17:09] <ahox> ubuntu_: I assume you still want to check your primary partition
[17:10] <ubuntu_> ahox: doesnt work mate...
[17:10] <histo> ubuntu_: /dev/sda would be primary master etc...
[17:11] <ahox> what is the errormessage? And what are your devices?
[17:12] <ubuntu_> ahox:
[17:12] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fsck.ext -cf /dev/sda1
[17:12] <ubuntu_> bash: fsck.ext: command not found
[17:12] <ahox> fsck.ext3
[17:13] <ubuntu_> i am stupid i think,,,
[17:13] <ubuntu_> ok started...
[17:13] <ubuntu_> :)
[17:13] <ahox> ASSUMING you have a ext3 partition
[17:13] <ubuntu_> ahox: i do :P
[17:14] <ncfi1013> do ineed a particular driver installed in order to get an ilo brand mp3 player to work in windows or linux media players and where can i find said drivers?
[17:14] <ubuntu_> ahox: does this "mark" bad sectors for not being used?
[17:14] <ahox> ubuntu_
[17:14] <ahox> ubuntu_: AFAIR it will ask you
[17:15] <ubuntu_> ahox: ok!
[17:15] <timo_> I can't figure out how to install a number pad on linux... can't find a driver anywhere :S
[17:16] <ahox> timo_: number pad as in the right hand side keyboard part?
[17:16] <timo_> anybody experience with this? I've got a Labtec Number Pad...
[17:16] <timo_> no, a separate usb number pad
[17:16] <ncfi1013> do ineed a particular driver installed in order to get an ilo brand mp3 player to work in windows or linux media players and where can i find said drivers?
[17:16] <ahox> timo_: If USB then it should be recognized as an HID-keyboard
[17:16] <timo_> it came with a cd for windows
[17:16] <genii> ahox: Some laptops like IBM had even separate proprietary numpads
[17:17] <ahox> genii: I know, just wanted to make sure we are talking about the same thing
[17:17] <timo_> well it's obviously not recognized... i can't type anything with it, pressing num lock makes no difference
[17:18] <timo_> but it should be automatically recognized, you say?
[17:18] <ahox> This may sound odd, but try rebooting with the numberpad plugged in - I once had a keyboard where this helped
[17:18] <ahox> it should...
[17:18] <timo_> hmm good idea, i'll try...
[17:18] <timo_> if it won't work, i'll be back in a minute ;-)
[17:18] <ahox> just tell us in any case
[17:19] <timo_> ok
[17:19] <alanx> somebody can tell me how I do for the emerald manager starts with compiz and not the default window manager of kde
[17:22] <timo_> I'm back, numpad still not workin :(
[17:22] <timo_> i believe i got a few errors on startup btw
[17:23] <BooVeMan_work> timo_: does it show up doing an lsusb ?
[17:23] <timo_> but i wasn't paying attention so before i could read them, they were already gone
[17:23] <ahox> timo_: dmesg is your friend
[17:23] <BooVeMan_work> timo_: these error should be recorded by dmesg
[17:23] <amerigo> # kubuntu.it
[17:23] <timo_> what's dmesg?
[17:23] <ahox> !dmesg
[17:24] <timo_> sorry i'm a bit new to linux
[17:24] <amerigo> italiano
[17:24] <BooVeMan_work> just enter it on a console
[17:24] <ahox> dmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer
[17:24] <BooVeMan_work> !italian
[17:24] <timo_> aha
[17:25] <timo_> $ lsusb: i only get one device, it's my mouse...
[17:25] <timo_> dmesg: a whole lot of messages saying that a usb device is not accepting any one of the addresses
[17:26] <ahox> timo_: I assume it is an usb device....
[17:26] <timo_> y
[17:26] <ahox> timo_: Something is broken then, maybe the device. At the very least it should show up there
[17:26] <timo_> why is the device "not accepting" the address... :(
[17:26] <ahox> timo_: ?
[17:26] <timo_> ah
[17:27] <timo_> usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10
[17:27] <timo_> usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10
[17:27] <timo_> srry
[17:27] <timo_> usb 5-3: device not accepting address 10, error -110
[17:28] <timo_> that's what i get
[17:29] <ahox> timo_: Try to use USB1.1, this could help
[17:29] <ahox> and now, how do we set it to usb1.1....?
[17:31] <BooVeMan_work> ahox: using a USB 1.1 only connector :-)
[17:31] <timo_> hmmm i just tried the numpad on a different computer with windows and it worked fine
[17:31] <timo_> i only have usb 2.0 connectors i guess
[17:31] <ahox> Any chance of doing it in sw? As in giving kernel parameters. I kind of doubt that a keypad needs USB2....
[17:32] <timo_> now my mouse is gone as well, tried to plug it in one of the usb-ports in the numpad
[17:32] <timo_> yeah you're right ahox
[17:32] <timo_> but what does sw stand for?
[17:33] <ahox> software
[17:33] <timo_> ah :)
[17:33] <ahox> Does "sudo lsusb  -v | grep bcdUSB" only returns 2.0 ?
[17:34] <timo_> it takes a while, is that normal?
[17:34] <ahox> shouldn't take to long
[17:35] <timo_> ah, i got it, it shows several entries, 2.00 as well as 1.10
[17:35] <timo_> now what should i do to switch to 1.10?
[17:35] <ahox> good, this means that some of your usb ports are still 1.1 - so now you have to find those
[17:35] <timo_> ah
[17:35] <timo_> that means plugging my numpad in a different port?
[17:36] <ahox> yes
[17:36] <ahox> and check dmesg each time
[17:37] <ahox> ok, I have to go home now, shops are closing, BooVeMan_work can take over ;-)
[17:39] <timo_> ok thanks!
[17:39] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: reinstalled?
[17:39] <elpez> BooVeMan_work yup
[17:39] <elpez> still on it
[17:40] <timo_> BooVeMan, i tried all of my usb-ports, none of them seems to work
[17:40] <timo_> dmesg keeps giving errors
[17:42] <wesley_> is there a way to shutdown the firewall in ubuntu ?
[17:42] <BooVeMan_work> timo_: follow this and the link on the bottom of the section: http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#ts6
[17:43] <BooVeMan_work> wesley_: sudo /etc/init.d/ufw stop
[17:43] <wesley_> and how will you put it on?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> elpez, not running 64 bit by any chance ?
[17:46] <BooVeMan_work> wesley_: sudo /etc/init.d/ufw start
[17:46] <BluesKaj> !firewall | wesley_
[17:47] <BooVeMan_work> !root |root
[17:47] <BluesKaj> gawd , never login as root
[17:59] <Nyad> hi, what's a good command line gpl ftp program?
[18:01] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: ftp
[18:02] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, thanks, are there any others that I can test to see which one I like?
[18:03] <timo_> BooVeMan_work: I'm looking at the contents of proc/interrupts right now, but i don't know which one could refer to my numpad
[18:04] <BooVeMan_work> look in adept for ftp and add as wnated tag commandline
[18:05] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: wore specific [interface::commandline]
[18:06] <timo_> BooVeMan_work: can you please help me with this?
[18:06] <BooVeMan_work> timo_: gimme 5
[18:07] <timo_> BooVeMan_work: sorry i got to go, hopefully we can figure this out later
[18:12] <gkffjcs_> Hi all my consol is not sourcing my .bashrc for some reason. It started after I moved my home directory.
[18:13] <gkffjcs_> wait, never mind
[18:15] <gkffjcs_> it seems to only be effecting gnome terminal, Ill ask those guys.
[18:28] <dhanes> hello all.  Is there a problem with the hardy/main repo?  I keep getting bzip2 errcode 2
[18:47] <hemanathan> hi
[18:47] <hemanathan> hi anyone help me .. i couldn't play my mp3 files
[18:47] <pag> !mp3 | hemanathan
[18:47] <histo> !codec > hemanathan
[18:47] <hemanathan> hi anyone help me .. i couldn't play my mp3 files
[18:49] <orangepeelbeef> hemanathan: medibuntu.org
[18:49] <orangepeelbeef> er http://www.medibuntu.org/
[18:52] <voicu> How is laptop support on ubuntu?
[18:52] <chairman> i need help w/configuring my kmaail
[18:52] <_CrashMaster_> voicu: Works pretty well on this laptop.
[18:53] <_CrashMaster_> Dell Inspiron 1200
[18:53] <voicu> I'm looking for the features that extend battery life and stuff like that.
[18:53] <voicu> _crashmaster_: do you get the same battery life as if running windows or other OSes?
[18:53] <incorrect> voicu: works fine for me
[18:54] <incorrect> i only have problems with my docking bay, but then again it doesn't work too well under wintendo either
[18:54] <voicu> i'm mostly interested in battery life, i need it to last as long as possible, especially since i won't be using it for anything cpu intensive
[18:54] <chairman> it works excellent on my HP laptop
[18:55] <chairman> but i need some assistance
[18:55] <chairman> w/KMAIL
[18:56] <voicu> ok, thanks for info guys
[18:56] <_CrashMaster_> voicu: I actually get better power management in Kubuntu than I do in windows
[18:56] <_CrashMaster_> 5-10% increase in battery life
[18:56] <voicu> ok, cool
[18:56] <chairman> I CAN'T CONFIGURE my Gmail w Kmail .Any suggestions?
[19:04] <Guest45486> hola
[19:21] <sncs> hey guys, i just installed kubuntu 8.04 having some problems with network, for some reason it gets DHCP everything, i can ping local hosts, but when i try to open most websites or downloads (even updates through repository) it just freezez. my knetworkmanager incrimentally adds RX errors on my connection. any ideas?
[19:24] <sncs> also when trying to open websites, for some reason google.com opens but for most others i get a "connection to host X is broken"
[19:26] <_CrashMaster_> sncs: Wireless or cabled?
[19:27] <solifugus> what package do i need to install to code GTK+ ??  I don't see anything like libgtk-dev
[19:28] <gatita> #kubuntu-es
[19:30] <BooVeMan_work> solifugus: libgtk2.0-dev
[19:32] <solifugus> BooVeMan_work: I seem to have that one installed.. my hello world from the tutorial couldn't find it, though....#include <gtk/gtk.h>
[19:33] <BooVeMan_work> solifugus: libgtk1.2-dev
[19:34] <nuxil> !sdpd
[19:34] <solifugus> BooVeMan_work: I changed the include to point to gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h (where it really is) and it found gtk.h, but gtk.h has all its references as gtk/gtk.h which makes the whole thing useless where kubuntu installs it.
[19:35] <solifugus> It'd be nice to be on the newer version, I'd think..
[19:37] <solifugus> virtually everything for developers is broken on ubuntu.. that's why I've tried to do my work on virtual machines in Virtual Box until an ubuntu kernel upgrade killed that.
[19:39] <BooVeMan_work> solifugus: I only develop in Java...
[19:40] <arie> hey
[19:40] <arie> someone
[19:40] <solifugus> BooVeMan_work: I will learn C# some day as a better Java.. It seems like our apps that use Java applets always leave us requiring users to have no less than and no higher than version requirements on their local machines..  grrr...
[19:40] <arie> ?
[19:41] <solifugus> Java--write once, run anywhere... after first installing the correct version for the particular thing you want to run.
[19:41] <arie_> frwq
[19:41] <reagleBRKLN> is there a way to test what encoding a file uses?
[19:55] <elpez> BooVeMan_work, are you there?
[19:56] <BooVeMan_work> elpez: yes
[19:57] <elpez> BooVeMan_work, hey... i did a fresh install.. and installed kubuntu-restricted
[19:57] <elpez> it says it already installed sun-java and the plugin
[19:57] <elpez> but it still doesn't show up :P
[19:58] <elpez> perhaps its the link thing, that's still missing?
[20:00] <elpez> BooVeMan_work sorry i gotta go for a while, i'll get back to you later if you are still around... thanks anyway
[20:00] <awarring> why when i sudo apt-get install tomcat5.5, does it prompt me to insert the cd rom into the drive...i don't have the cd rom
[20:01] <awarring> shouldn't it be able to get everything it needs from the internet
[20:01] <BooVeMan_work> awarring: edit your /etc/apt/sourec.list
[20:03] <awarring> BooVeMan_work: now i have to find new sources, eh?
[20:04] <BooVeMan_work> awarring: there should be all you neeed - only commented (staring with #) you may need to commend you cd-rom
[20:04] <Sydero> use adept
[20:07] <awarring> BooVeMan_work: thanks, worked.
[20:09] <incorrect> what would you guys suggest for network diagrams?
[20:09] <Sydero> pencil and paper
[20:09] <Sydero> :D
[20:09] <incorrect> helpful :)
[20:09] <kheski> Is there anyone here that can help me with configuring Apache2 for Kubuntu?
[20:10] <incorrect> apache for kde?
[20:10] <incorrect> hmm
[20:10] <Sydero> wait
[20:10] <kheski> Incorrect, that's correct.
[20:10] <Sydero> apache & kde
[20:10] <Sydero> wow
[20:10] <Sydero> weird
[20:10] <incorrect> how is apache related to kde?
[20:10] <Sydero> it's not
[20:10] <Sydero> but I guess it's a test server + home computer
[20:10] <incorrect> really?
[20:10] <kheski> Sydero, that's correct.
[20:10] <incorrect> kde.apache.org ?
[20:11] <Pici> incorrect: he wants graphical configuration for Apache for KDE... it sounds like.
[20:11] <incorrect> ah
[20:11] <kheski> No Pici.
[20:11] <Pici> kheski: no/
[20:11] <incorrect> konsole?
[20:11] <Pici> ?
[20:11] <Pici> kheski: What are you looking for then?
[20:11] <kheski> I just don't understand how to configure apache, on any platform.
[20:12] <kheski> It's installation was no problem,and when I dial 192.168.0.5  it says "It Works".
[20:12] <Pici> kheski: Then you're serving content out of /var/www by default.
[20:13] <kheski> Pici, thank you.
[20:13] <Pici> Sure
[20:13] <kheski> Is there a specific way to access ftp files?
[20:13] <satyam> use IE
[20:13] <Sydero> :D
[20:14] <Sydero> you can access them anyway you want
[20:14] <incorrect> do people still use ftp?
[20:14] <Sydero> most browsers support ftp
[20:14] <kheski> satyam, when I dial the ftp:// address it's not enabled.  Perhaps I should read Apache documentation?
[20:14] <satyam> apache 1.3.x
[20:14] <BooVeMan_work> kheski: isntall an ftp-server - have it pointing to /var/www
[20:15] <kheski> BooVeMan_work, what is a good provider for this?
[20:15] <satyam> yeap
[20:15] <BooVeMan_work> kheski: apache only supports http and https
[20:15] <BooVeMan_work> kheski: vsftpd
[20:15] <kheski> BooVeMan_work, thank you.
[20:16] <BooVeMan_work> kheski: put if you  are on the same machine - why bother? just copy your files there
[20:16] <blizzz> does someone know an app, which compares the current size of a folder to an older one that has been stored  and gives out the diff (to use it frequently, e.g. once a month)?
[20:17] <BooVeMan_work> blizzz: du :D
[20:18] <blizzz> BooVeMan_work: i told you in that other channel that i (or rather a friend of mine) is looking for a complete existing solution
[20:23] <BooVeMan_work> kheski: the config for vsftpd is in /etc/vsftpd.conf
[20:28] <yao_ziyuan> there is a Locked Folder that even root can't delete or rename. what can i do?
[20:30] <yao_ziyuan> console can delete it
[20:36]  * incorrect wonders why he is never happy
[20:36] <Sydero> maybe no one likes you
[20:36] <incorrect> why can't i stop backporting
[20:36] <Sydero> :P
[20:36] <Sydero> take happy pills
[20:36] <ICM> incorrect: whenever working with Linux, I'm never happy
[20:37] <Sydero> then stick with windows
[20:37] <incorrect> ICM: you should use solaris
[20:37] <incorrect> what is windows?
[20:37] <Sydero> something better
[20:37] <onironauta> XDD
[20:37] <Sydero> :P
[20:37] <ICM> ouch
[20:37] <BooVeMan_work> Sydero: with windows unhappy changes to suicidal
[20:37] <incorrect> i have lots of windows on my house
[20:37] <ICM> I love Linux on my server, getting it to work on my desktop is another story
[20:37] <Sydero> well then he'd finally have some rest
[20:37] <incorrect> ICM: are you not very good with linux?
[20:37] <ICM> I have two graphics cards, each one is dual-head
[20:38] <ICM> Not very good with xorg
[20:38] <incorrect> ICM: ah
[20:38] <BooVeMan_work> ICM: lucky bastard
[20:38] <ICM> BooVeMan_work: didn't get it for free
[20:38] <incorrect> damn you ldapsearch
[20:38] <ICM> XD
[20:38] <ICM> high school budget
[20:40] <incorrect> sounds like a fun toy
[20:44] <KyleB171> Hi, audio normal works but youtube doesn't
[20:44] <KyleB171> any ideas?
[20:46] <BooVeMan_work> KyleB171: what plugin - adobe or a free alternative
[20:47] <KyleB171> Adobe
[20:47] <rohan> in the audiocd:/ kioslave, i am not getting an option to rip the audio cd to FLAC, even though the "flac" package is installed. what should i do? i am using kde 3.5.9 on kubuntu 8.04
[20:47] <BooVeMan_work> KyleB171: only hat the problem the other way round - once flash played sound no ohter application could until I clodes the browser
[20:50] <justs0me> is there a button combo that makes my comp go into hibernate?
[20:50] <justs0me> in hardy
[20:50] <BooVeMan_work> rohan: tyied KAudioCreator?
[20:50] <rohan> BooVeMan_work: no
[20:51] <rohan> but wondering why is audiocd:/ not working
[20:51] <BooVeMan_work> rohan: may be no kioslave for flac...
[20:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> rohan: libflac?
[20:52] <rohan> Daisuke_Laptop: which one? there are many
[20:52] <rohan> However, the following
[20:52] <rohan> packages contain "libflac" in their name: libflac++6 libflac++-dev libflac-dev libflac-doc libflac8
[20:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> looking now
[20:52] <BooVeMan_work> rohan: libflac8 - but that should be installed by flac
[20:53] <rohan> BooVeMan_work: exactly, it is
[20:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> libflac8 or libflac++6 (which is the C++ runtime library)
[20:54] <rohan> libflac++6 is already the newest version.
[20:56] <satyam> does any1 knows the pathch for Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[20:56] <satyam> where to get it from
[20:56] <satyam> ?
[20:56] <satyam> ????????????
[20:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> satyam: one question mark will suffice
[21:01] <satyam> ok ? :P ?
[21:02] <rohan> BooVeMan_work, Daisuke_Laptop : any more ideas?
[21:02] <rohan> should i file a bug?
[21:02] <rohan> though i don't know how many people will pay attention to a kde3 bug
[21:03] <BooVeMan_work> satyam: google?
[21:04] <BooVeMan_work> rohan: as long as theres a working workaround (likeKAUdioCreator) I don't think it wil catch mutch attaentino
[21:04] <rohan> exactly :-s
[21:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> rohan: i got nothing :\
[21:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> kaudiocreator is what i usually use, because i have more control over encoder settings
[21:08] <gnumm> &join \ubuntuusers
[21:08] <bipolar> Does anyone know how to add a folder to the KDE menu? I can create desktop files to add apps to it, but havn't been able to figure out how to add a new folder.
[21:09] <BooVeMan_work> bipolar: all a new submenu
[21:09] <BooVeMan_work> *add
[21:09] <bipolar> BooVeMan_work: I mean via a package.
[21:09] <bipolar> BooVeMan_work: if I do it via the menu editor it's only for the current user.
[21:10] <bipolar> I need to create a package that adds items to a menu that doesn't exist.
[21:10] <BooVeMan_work> bipolar: if the package you instlled does not contain a folder it will not dreate a folder - only an icon
[21:10] <bipolar> BooVeMan_work: I'm the one creating the package.
[21:10] <bipolar> BooVeMan_work: I need to create the submenu in the package.
[21:10] <BooVeMan_work> bipolar: no idea - never creted packages
[21:12] <gnumm> will there be a kde3 kubuntu 8.10?
[21:12] <gnumm> or only kde4?
[21:12] <Tm_T> gnumm: KDE4, though I assume someone will will provide KDE3 too
[21:13] <gnumm> ok
[21:14] <sourcemaker> is amarok for kde4 stable?
[21:14] <gnumm> no
[21:14] <sourcemaker> or let's say... stable enouth
[21:15] <engineer> yes
[21:15] <gnumm> Tm_T: so the "official" kde will be kde 4.1?
[21:15] <engineer> yes
[21:15] <Tm_T> gnumm: for Kubuntu 8.10 yes
[21:18] <ICM^^> K, whenever I start KDE, "Hardware Drivers" comes up. How do I disable that
[21:18] <ICM^^> Yes, I see that I'm using the propreitary drivers, I don't need to be told that every time I start KDE >_>
[21:19] <Sir> hello.  i have been booting with "irqpoll" as one of my parameters.  this is so that my wireless network card will work.  however, when i use "irqpoll" my touchpad becomes rather unsensitive.  i was hoping someone could help me figure out a way that i can get my wireless network without "irqpoll" or my touchpad to work properly with "irqpoll".  thanks for any help you can offer
[21:23] <sourcemaker> which app is better kgpg or kleopatra
[21:23] <sourcemaker> ?
[21:24] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: What wireless card are you using?
[21:25] <Sir> CrashMaster:  i believe it's a broadcomm, do you know of an easy way to figure that out?
[21:25] <BooVeMan_work> Sir: lspci
[21:26] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: run "lspci" from a terminal, and pastebin it.
[21:27] <nainef> hey real quick
[21:27] <Sir> CrashMaster and BooVeMan, sorry but i'm relatively new to linux.  what is the command for pastebin or where might i find that?
[21:27] <BooVeMan_work> !ask > nainef
[21:27] <nainef> I just installed 8.0.4
[21:27] <BooVeMan_work> !pastebin > Sir
[21:28] <nainef> and when I install the restricted packages
[21:28] <nainef> it crashes
[21:28] <nainef> because I think its asking for user input during the java install
[21:28] <BooVeMan_work> nainef: please write your entinre question in one line and please specify what "it crashes" mean
[21:29] <nainef> I am sorry guys bear with me
[21:29] <ICM> !pastebin > ICM
[21:29] <nainef> during the install of the restricted packages the installer will exit saying it exited abmorally
[21:29] <ICM> Bah, got my hopes up that there might actually be a pastebin command :(
[21:30] <ubuntu__> treg
[21:30] <BooVeMan_work> nainef: ou know what the console is ? right?
[21:30] <nainef> right
[21:30] <nainef> hehe
[21:31] <nainef> bash prompt
[21:31] <nainef> I am old school cli person
[21:31] <tataabuelo> jeje
[21:31] <nainef> I'll be using vi when keyboards are all gone
[21:32] <BooVeMan_work> nainef: you refer to the kubuntu-restricted-extras package ?
[21:32] <nainef> yes
[21:32] <Sir> CrashMaster and BooVeMan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/30080/
[21:32] <BooVeMan_work> ok en the console try: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:32] <nainef> ok good idea
[21:32] <Sydero> What's restricted for?
[21:33] <nainef> java fonts flash
[21:33] <BooVeMan_work> Sir: you got an intel chip
[21:33] <jpds> mp3s, etc.
[21:33] <nainef> cli's dream package
[21:33] <nainef> nope
[21:34] <Sir> Boo: yeah, i see that now.
[21:34] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Yeah, thats an intel 2200 b/g device.
[21:34] <_CrashMaster_> I believe that has native linux support now, doesn't it?
[21:34] <Sydero> yes
[21:34] <_CrashMaster_> !info ip2200
[21:35] <BooVeMan_work> you should have no need to install anything fopr the intel chip - its included in the kernal - who told you to put that ircpoll into you bott prompt?
[21:35] <nainef> BooVeMan_work: this might fix the problem since now it should ask me to accept that crappy java license
[21:35] <_CrashMaster_> !info ipw2200
[21:35] <Sydero> it does exist in ubuntu
[21:35] <Sydero> and the kernel
[21:35] <Sydero> the bot lies
[21:35] <jpds> !lies | Sydero
[21:35] <nainef> by the way guys, GREAT fricken OS
[21:35] <Nyad>  hi please can someone help me with an ftp problem http://nopaste.com/p/aa0wlGv7gb
[21:35] <Sir> boo and crash: i got it form the kubuntu forums.  the problem was that before i put it in, it appeared as though kubuntu didn't even recognize that i had a wireless network card.
[21:36] <jpds> nainef: We do our best.
[21:36] <BooVeMan_work> Sydero: bot only knows packages as this is part of the kernal it wont show up
[21:36] <Sydero> yeah
[21:36] <nainef> BooVeMan_work: its still downloading but I am crossing my fingers
[21:36] <nainef> jpds: good, its really excelent
[21:37] <Sydero> It would be better if it forced the KDE gui on non-KDE apps ;)
[21:37] <Sydero> by default
[21:37] <jpds> Sydero: gtk-qt-engine has long been broken..
[21:38] <dlee> or somehow could transform other apps into kde apps :)
[21:38] <Sydero> it's better than not having it :P
[21:38] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: have you tired setting your ftp_proxy to include user and password for the proxy
[21:38] <nainef> also, which version of java should be on the machine?
[21:38] <BooVeMan_work> 6
[21:38] <engineer> sun 6
[21:38] <nainef> open or non open
[21:39] <nainef> openjdk?
[21:39] <jpds> nainef: You may choose between which one you would like.
[21:39] <jpds> !java
[21:39] <nainef> ok thank you
[21:40] <engineer> sun is better
[21:40] <BooVeMan_work> nainef: sun - open would not be resticted
[21:40] <engineer> higher performance
[21:40] <nainef> that um restricted package installs suns but the default is openjdk
[21:40] <nainef> so I might switch
[21:41] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, no. would I do this, export ftp_proxy=proxyname username pwd
[21:41] <nainef> ok everything looks ok thanks tons...
[21:41] <jpds> nainef: Sun is set to release Java as open source in the future
[21:41] <jpds> .
[21:42] <nainef> jpds: no way!??
[21:42] <jpds> nainef: So later on, you wouldn't have to choose between the two. :)
[21:42] <nainef> any sort of time frame ?
[21:43] <engineer> only 1 small part is still not open
[21:43] <nainef> cool
[21:43] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: type "lsmod" and pastebin the results, please.
[21:43] <nainef> that is really great news
[21:44] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: no ftp://user:pdw@proxy:port
[21:44] <Sir> my wireless network card originally started when i tried a livecd of kubuntu last year.  the forum that all of this can be found at is http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087951.msg97671#msg97671 .  when i finally decided that i would like to install kubuntu permanently, i found my wireless card was not found again and decided to use the same fix.  but this time it's creating problems with my touchpad.
[21:44] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: type "lsmod" and pastebin the results, please.
[21:45] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: or http:/... if its a http-proxy
[21:45] <Nyad> tnx
[21:47] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Also, what version of kubuntu are you using?
[21:47] <kheski> Is there no way to visually access files such as Root/var/ ?
[21:47] <Sydero> Is there a super beta version of Kubuntu in iso form?
[21:47] <_CrashMaster_> !intrepid
[21:47] <Sir> CrashMaster:  my touchpad is so crappy right now that i can't highlight the output.  i know a command exists that i can have it output to a webpage without actually pasting.  do you know what it is?
[21:48] <BooVeMan_work> !info zfs > BooveMan_work
[21:48] <emons> hi guys ive got 5 speakers and a subwoofer and id like to configure the sound in the best way i can cuz now it seems the subwoofer itz abbit louder than the others, is there any application that suits me?
[21:48] <kheski> emons, that's not really a kubuntu question.
[21:48] <Sydero> What kernel does intrepid use?
[21:48] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Haven't got a clue on that one man. Are you using wireless to connect to us now?
[21:48] <Sir> yes
[21:48] <_CrashMaster_> Sydero: .26 I think
[21:48] <emons> yes cuz im looking for a kde application
[21:48] <Sydero> ooohhhh
[21:50] <kheski> How can I be able to edit files in Root visually ?
[21:50] <jpds> kheski: kdesudo kate
[21:50] <jpds> !kdesudo > kheski
[21:50] <engineer> kdesu kate <filename>
[21:51] <Sir> CrashMaster:  i believe 8.04.  i just downloaded it last week.  thanks for being patient, when can i go to find out the exact version i have?
[21:51] <kheski> thank you jpds.
[21:51] <jpds> engineer: We use kdesudo in Kubuntu.
[21:51] <jpds> kdesu is symlinked to kdesudo.
[21:52] <nainef> ok guys thanks again you guys have a great day....
[21:52] <nainef> w00t
[21:52] <kheski> I don't know how to use kdesudo.
[21:52] <jpds> nainef: Likewise.
[21:52] <kheski> Or how to access it.
[21:52] <engineer> kdesu seems less writing to me
[21:52] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, I set my http and ftp proxy var and I then I did $ ftp -n  and then I tried ftp> proxy open ftp://me:pwd@www.site.com:21
[21:52] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: hANG ON
[21:52] <jpds> kheski: Simply press: Alt-F2 and type "kdesudo kate" there
[21:52] <engineer> kheski open Konsole
[21:53] <kheski> I know how to open and change files like that.  But I have for example a ftp:// running out of it...but it's ownership belongs to root.
[21:53] <Sir> Crash:  just got the highlight to work.  lsmod is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/30090/
[21:53] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: no you set your ftp_proxy vars to include user an d pwd for the proxt than ftop to your ftp server which in turn will ask for user and password
[21:53] <kheski> So no others including myself can edit it.
[21:53] <_CrashMaster_> groovy
[21:54] <kheski> I should ask.  I have the appropriate software installed to be a FTP server, but I don't know how to allow access, it's locked even to me.
[21:55] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Do you have the ability to use a wired connection?
[21:56] <Sir> Crash: yes
[21:56] <Sir> what are your thoughts?
[21:56] <larry_> hola
[21:56] <kheski> Does anyone hav experience with setting up FTP on Kubuntu?
[21:56] <BooVeMan_work> kheski: you can?t edit over ftp - if thats what you mean
[21:56] <larry_> yo no entiendo linux estoy aprendiendo
[21:56] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, ok, now I tried, proxy open www.sigma-server.com:21  instead but it still says name or service not known
[21:56] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Reboot. Take that irqpoll thing out of your boot line. Then hook up a wired connection and come back here.
[21:56] <kheski> BooVeMan_work, then what is it I should do for it to be useful?
[21:57] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: We have some stuff to do, but I need you online without using the wireless.
[21:57] <Sir> Crash:  will do.  give me a few
[21:57] <Sir> rgr, thanks for the help
[21:57] <Sir> out
[21:57] <_CrashMaster_> !es | larry
[21:58] <BooVeMan_work> kheski: get it via ftp - edit i locally connect to the ftp-server as root and upload it
[21:59] <kheski> BooVeMan_work  I've logged into it as every possible user and none allow access.
[21:59] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: not sure if i understand what you are doing: export ftp_proxy=ftp//user:pwd@proxy:port and then ftp www.sigma-server.com
[22:00] <BooVeMan_work> kheski: so change teh ownership of teh file...
[22:00] <chairman> linuxwizard get at me
[22:01] <kheski> Kheski, how do you change ownership of a file if you have no ownership to the file?  I have changed it in system settings.
[22:01] <kheski> haha I wrote my own name.  I mean BooVeMan_work.
[22:01] <BooVeMan_work> kheski: in the comand line (console): sudo chown user file
[22:03] <Sydero> chown user.group file
[22:03] <Sydero> with sudo in front
[22:08] <justs0me> i installed compiz-fusion icon and emerald and compiz is acting weird now,should i uninstall the default desktop effects program that came with hardy ?
[22:09] <blober> 8.04 hardy problem: very strange: various things started toguether. my keyboard goes crazy doing shortcuts, my internet conection starts like connected but it is not (i have to restart it), logoff doesnt work and i have to shut down by hand to get control back over the mess, but i can do things, except typing becouse it opens stuff, etc.
[22:09] <Compiler|mobile> justs0me: works fine 4 me w/o uninstalling
[22:11] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, I got this output when I typed $ ftp ftp://www.sigma-server.com . ftp: connect: Connection timed out ftp: Can't connect or login to host `www.sigma-server.com'
[22:12] <Sir> Crash: so i'm back, but when i got rid of irqpoll, i couldn't connect wired or wireless.  right now i'm connect by wire, but i'm also using irqpoll.  knetwork manager recognized that the cards were connected, but they weren't active.  any ideas?
[22:13] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: only ftp www.sigma-server.com without ftop://
[22:14] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Your wired AND wireless connections won't work without the IRQPOLL ?
[22:14] <Nyad> I tried that, it still said connection timed out
[22:14] <Sir> Crash, that's what it seems.  i didn't realize that was the problem.  i thought it was only wireless, but apparently that is not true.  neither work
[22:15] <_CrashMaster_> This is a laptop, yes? What make / model
[22:15] <BooVeMan_work> and ftp_proxy and http_proxy both are set resectively?
[22:15] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: with  users and password
[22:16] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, yes
[22:16] <Sir> Crash:  Laptop, toshiba tecra A4
[22:16] <Sir> about 3.5 yrs old
[22:17] <blober> i have some time  (maybe minutes) before my keyboard goes crazy.
[22:17] <blober> i remember installing some .deb from standard repositories for language and wrigting in one o two system files for portuguese support. any tip of a system file for me to look at that is putting my keyboard in a "shotcut" mode?
[22:17] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: wget works through the proxy?
[22:17] <Sydero> try forcing your keyboard into a specific language
[22:17] <BooVeMan_work> ftp or http?
[22:17] <Sydero> i.e. US 104 keys
[22:18] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Give me a moment, getting some details on that laptop
[22:18] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work,  I haven't tried, can wget do the same things ftp does?
[22:18] <Sir> Crash, rgr, i really appreciate the help.  any info you need from me, just ask
[22:19] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: yes try wget http://www.google.com or wget ftp://user:pass@ftp.server.com/path/to/file
[22:21] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, ya it worked, it grabbed index.html off of http://www.google.com
[22:22] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: and ftp¿?
[22:23] <_CrashMaster_> Sir. Ok, need some more details. Reboot, remove IRQPOLL. Run "lspci" and "lsmod" and "iwconfig" and save all the results to a text file. Reboot, put the IRQPOLL back in, and then pastebin the results of those commands.
[22:23] <Sir> rgr, i'll be back
[22:28] <sinan> hi, there is a problem that I have:
[22:28] <sinan> I need to make "hacked" my router
[22:29] <Compiler|mobile> for what? o_O
[22:29] <sinan> my brother plays "tremulous" too much
[22:29] <sinan> we are using the same router (both of them installed kubuntu)
[22:31] <sinan> Compiler|mobile: do you have an idea?
[22:31] <blober> my keyboard was going crazy, it was <control> 2 times pressed very quickly, i found it now. it tuned my keyboad into a crazy shortcutter. cool.
[22:31] <Nyad> sinan, do you mean you want to configure it?
[22:32] <sinan> Compiler|mobile: no, I mean, I need to make some "attacks" to my rooter
[22:32] <_CrashMaster_> blober: Yeah, you gotta watch out for those StickyKeys.
[22:32] <Compiler|mobile> sinan, so what exactly do u wanna do?
[22:32] <_CrashMaster_> try hitting your shift button 5 times in rapid succession
[22:32] <sinan> Compiler|mobile: I need sb to make my router "hacked"
[22:33] <_CrashMaster_> sinan: You want to delibratley break your router?
[22:33] <blober> _CrashMaker_: Sticky Keys <3
[22:33] <sinan> _CrashMaster_: : not definitely, its like...
[22:33] <sinan> _CrashMaster_: I can give some permissions if somebody wants
[22:34] <sinan> _CrashMaster_: to make some "resets" at my router
[22:34] <blober> _CrashMaster_: nothing here
[22:34] <_CrashMaster_> sinan: So you want to have managed access control to the router?
[22:34] <_CrashMaster_> blober: use the left shift
[22:34] <sinan> _CrashMaster_: yea
[22:34] <sinan> _CrashMaster_: but he has to be a good guy for not make this router really "hacked" :)
[22:34] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, when I try access the server via a browser with ftp://www.sigma-server.com   it asks for my username and password then asks again and again
[22:35] <_CrashMaster_> sinan: You're going to want to contact the router manufacturer for assistance with that. This channel is dedicated to support Kubuntu.
[22:35] <sinan> _CrashMaster_: both of us using kubuntu
[22:35] <sinan> _CrashMaster_: so maybe there is a way to make this router "ddos"
[22:35] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: i refer to wget with an ftp adddress
[22:35] <blober> _CrashMaster_: nothing with left shift
[22:35] <_CrashMaster_> sinan: True, but you want to reconfigure your router, And your router isn't running Kubnuntu.
[22:36] <blober> two of them mas shift sticky
[22:36] <sinan> _CrashMaster_: yes
[22:36] <sinan> _CrashMaster_: ok maybe I should look somewhere else
[22:36] <BooVeMan_work> sinan: I recommend TALKING to your brother.
[22:37] <Sir> Crash: http://pastebin.com/m6c353bf7  here are the outputs
[22:37] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Ok, looking at them now.
[22:37] <Sir> thanks
[22:37] <sinan> BooVeMan_work: he doesn't listen me I tried ^^
[22:39] <sncs> hey guys, i just installed kubuntu 8.04 having some problems with network, for some reason it gets DHCP everything, i can ping local hosts, but when i try to open most websites or downloads (even updates through repository) it just freezez. my knetworkmanager incrimentally adds RX errors on my connection. any ideas? also when trying to open websites, for some reason google.com opens but for most others i get a "connection to host X is broken"
[22:39] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Everything in that looks exactly the way it is supposed to. When you remove the IRQPOLL and try to load Knetworkmanager, what happens? Which interface does it attempt to use?
[22:40] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, this is what happened http://nopaste.com/p/aLjbktXAk
[22:41] <Sir> Crash:  it doesn't use either the wired or the wireless.  when i open knetworkmanager, not wireless networks appear and wired network is grayed out
[22:41] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: ok your proxy does not allow traffic through prot 21 - talk to your sys amdin
[22:42] <Nyad> thanks for all the trouble. is port 21 the ftp port?
[22:42] <jabba> its one of them Nyad
[22:42] <jabba> grep ftp /etc/services
[22:43] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: One moment, I'm setting up a list of things for you to do on next reboot :)
[22:43] <Sir> ok
[22:45] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, is there any way I can make it use a different port?
[22:45] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Reboot, remove IRQPOLL. When booted, click the Kmenu (link the windows start button) and choose SYSTEM SETTINGS. Then Choose NETWORK SETTINGS. You should see both your Wired and Wireless interfaces in there.
[22:46] <Sir> ok
[22:47] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: If you dont see them, come on back here. If you DO see them, click the Administrator mode button, and then highlight your wireless card.
[22:47] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: no the ftp server listens on port 21 - no escape there
[22:47] <Nyad> ok, thanks for you time
[22:47] <_CrashMaster_> Click Configure Interface, and them make sure you put a dot in  AUTOMATIC. Save your changes, then Quit knetworkmanager and restart it.
[22:47] <_CrashMaster_> You should (hopefully) be able to connect.
[22:48] <Sir> alright, will try.  back in a few one way or another
[22:48] <_CrashMaster_> wait
[22:48] <_CrashMaster_> one more thing
[22:48] <Sir> ok
[22:48] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, if I have that http_proxy var set, will all my command line programs that access the internet use that proxy?
[22:48] <_CrashMaster_> In your system bios, you may see an option to for "plug and play OS" or something similar. Make sure you set that to YES
[22:49] <Sir> rgr, will check that
[22:49] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: yes
[22:50] <Sir> Crash:  anything else at this time?
[22:52] <Sir> Crash, i'm out, i'll be back shortly
[22:53] <mbox> hi!
[22:53] <mbox> how do i record the audio stream from an *.avi video and save it to mp3? please help!
[22:58] <Nyad> if I make/change an environment var, how do I make it get set everytime I open konsole?
[23:01] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: put to lines into /etc/profile if you want these settings for anyone or into .bash_profile only for yourself
[23:02] <Sir> Crash:  when i rebooted, first no plug and play OS option in the bios settings.
[23:02] <_CrashMaster_> ok
[23:02] <justs0me> how to i edit selinux?
[23:04] <Sir> Crash:  second, eth0 was there for my enabled ethernet network device.  no ip address though.  eth1 was not there for my wireless network device (it is now there since using irqpoll)
[23:04] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, I don't have a .bash_profile in my homedir
[23:04] <Sir> Crash: even though eth0 was there, i still had no connection to the internet via the wired network card
[23:04] <BooVeMan_work> but you are on kubuntu and use bash as your shell?
[23:07] <sinan> how can I make a "remote access" to my kubuntu ?
[23:08] <sinan> the other computer wants to connect me is a "windows"
[23:08] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: I hate to say it, but I'm out of ideas.
[23:09] <Sir> well, crash.  i really appreciate the help.  one last question.  do you know if you can use gentoo commands in kubuntu.  the paste to internet command i was talking about it wgetpaste
[23:09] <_CrashMaster_> Sir: Only way to know for sure is to try it
[23:09] <Sir> ha, i'll see what i can do.  thanks again for all of the help
[23:10] <Nyad> BooVeMan_work, yes
[23:10] <BooVeMan_work> sinan: you have to install samba and create a samba cshare
[23:11] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: then just create it - it should be read if there
[23:11] <Nyad> ok, what do I put inside?  just export var= values
[23:12] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: jep - nothing more nothing less - here is mine: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30116/
[23:13] <Nyad> tnx
[23:13] <_CrashMaster_> Bah. Hate it when I can't figure out the source of a problem
[23:14]  * BooVeMan_work hands _CrashMaster_ a beer
[23:17] <Nyad> how do I add a user and group via the command line and give them a home directory and passwd. I can't understand the man page whenever I read it
[23:18] <justs0me> anyone know how i can edit/confgiure selinux on kubuntu/ubuntu?
[23:20] <lebafar> ola!
[23:21] <lebafar> recentemente instalei o kubunto em um pc, gostaria de saber se alguem poderia me ajudar a faze-lo entrar em modo economico, tipo desligando as ventuinhas da placa de video.
[23:23] <Dragnslcr> Nyad- are you using adduser or useradd?
[23:23] <BooVeMan_work> Nyad: adduser username + sudo passwd username
[23:24] <Nyad> Dragnslcr, what's the difference
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> adduser should ask for a password
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> adduser is a friendlier version of useradd
[23:24] <BooVeMan_work> lebafar: !Portuguese
[23:24] <BooVeMan_work> !Portuguese > lebafar
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> "man adduser" should give you a good description
[23:26] <Nyad> will it also create a homedir for the user automatically?
[23:34] <Dragnslcr> Nyad- it'll ask you where you want the home directory, yes
[23:38] <Nyad> why doesn't this work , sudo useradd -m /home/david -g jason -p david david
[23:39] <Dragnslcr> Why not use adduser instead?
[23:42] <Nyad> Dragnslcr, I'm testing a few different commands, I don't know if adduser will be on other distros
[23:42] <Nyad> adduser was very easy though
[23:42] <lebafar_> hello
[23:42] <Dragnslcr> I think pretty much any Linux distro will have adduser
[23:43] <Dragnslcr> I vaguely recall FreeBSD not having it by default, but I don't know for certain
[23:43] <lebafar_> when I use windows my computer goes to a energy economy automaticly. How do I set it on Kubuntu ?
[23:44] <_CrashMaster_> lebafar_: Do you see a litte battery down in the system tray?
[23:45] <lebafar_> _CrashMaster_: not really
[23:45] <lebafar_> realy*
[23:46] <lebafar_> maybe because I am on a desktop machine, no ?
[23:51] <Nyad> blunder, do you play chess?
[23:51] <Walzmyn> !games
[23:52] <miraclemaxim> i need help with dual screens with an nvidia card.  i want to be able to do a dualview mode liek windows has.  i've been able to do twinview or two seperate x screens, but those are not really what i want
[23:52] <miraclemaxim> can't figure out how to do it
[23:54] <lebafar_> _CrashMaster_: do you use Ubuntu or Kubuntu ?
[23:58] <Kybish> Is this the right place to ask how I can help the kubuntu project?