/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/24/#launchpad-meeting.txt

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flacostempt: meeting time?19:02
marsmoo19:02
* thumper yawns19:02
mptoh, yes19:02
mptMEETING TIME19:02
rockstarme19:03
matsubaramoo19:03
marsmoo19:03
mptFor the next half hour or so we'll be discussing Launchpad development19:03
cprovme19:03
Ursinhame19:03
mptWho is here today?19:03
al-maisanme19:03
abentleyme19:03
barryme19:03
bacme19:03
salgadome19:03
sinzuime19:03
rockstarSince when did we go to animal noises?19:03
adeuringme19:03
flacosteme19:03
* rockstar didn't get the memo19:03
herbmoomo19:03
sinzui.o19:03
BjornTme19:03
mrevellme19:03
leonardrme19:03
EdwinGrubbsme19:03
matsubarame19:04
thumperme19:04
matsubarareleases is here19:04
intellectronicame19:04
matsubarano mootbot today?19:04
flacostefoudnations is here19:04
thumpercode is hee19:04
thumperr19:04
jtvme19:04
BjornTgmb had to go out, so he isn't here19:05
mptWhat's that magic word19:05
mpt#startmeeting19:05
MootBotMeeting started at 13:08. The chair is mpt.19:05
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]19:05
mptthere we go19:05
mptso, the agenda19:06
stubme (sorry - new kernel doesn't like my network stick)19:06
mpt * Next meeting19:06
mpt * Actions from last meeting19:06
mpt * Oops report (Matsubara)19:06
mpt * Critical Bugs (Rinchen)19:06
mpt * Bug tags19:06
mpt * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)19:06
mpt * DBA report (stub)19:06
mpt * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)19:06
mpt * New packages required (salgado)19:06
mpt * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)19:06
mpt * Doc Team report (mrevell)19:06
mpt * New MOTU liaison19:07
mpt * Oopses for unauthorized exceptions19:07
mpt[TOPIC] Next meeting19:07
MootBotNew Topic:  Next meeting19:07
mptAny problem with the same time next week?19:07
sinzuiI may not be19:07
BjornTthe bugs team will be sprinting, but should make it anyway19:08
flacostebarry and sinzui are away19:08
sinzuihere ot there19:08
* barry pre-apologizes19:08
al-maisanI'll be off on Thursday next week19:08
mptWe have an apology from allenap for this week19:08
mptand from kiko and Rinchen who are famously at Oscon19:08
mptok, next meeting same time next week19:09
mpt[TOPIC] Actions from last meeting19:09
MootBotNew Topic:  Actions from last meeting19:09
mptThere are no notes available from the last meeting, so no actions19:10
mpt[TOPIC] Oops report19:10
MootBotNew Topic:  Oops report19:10
matsubaraHi everyone, say hello to Ursinha, she started this week and is the new QA person19:10
matsubaraUrsinha, the stage is yours. Go ahead.19:10
thumperhi Ursinha19:10
* Ursinha waves19:10
mptwelcome Ursinha19:10
Ursinhahi all19:10
herbhi Ursinha19:10
stubo/19:10
rockstarHi Ursinha19:10
barryUrsinha: welcome!19:10
marshi Ursinha19:10
al-maisanhello Ursinha19:10
Ursinha:)19:10
sinzuihi19:10
adeuringhi Ursinha19:10
abentleyHi.19:11
flacostewelcome Ursinha!19:11
mrevellwelcome Ursinha19:11
salgadowelcome aboard, Ursinha19:11
Ursinhathanks all19:11
Ursinhawell, I have two bugs in here19:11
Ursinhaone is a Unicode error, bug 25156919:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251569 in launchpad "UnicodeEncodeError when trying to search in launchpad/people/+index" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25156919:11
Ursinhacan anybody please take a look at it?19:12
Ursinhait's oopsing when trying to do a people search19:12
Ursinhathe other is a timeout problem that is causing more oopses than normal19:13
Ursinhaan old bug, 12420519:13
thumperhey ubotto, bug 12420519:13
flacostesalgado?19:13
flacostecould you look into 251569?19:13
salgadosure19:14
Ursinhathanks salgado19:14
* flacoste kicks ubotto19:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 124205 in blueprint "timeout in specworkload page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12420519:14
matsubarathe second one is a bug on +specworkload. it's assigned to BjornT (why?) BjornT are you going to have a look on that one?19:14
Ursinha\o/19:14
BjornTmatsubara: nope :) i've unassigned myself19:14
Ursinhathis bug is old but is happening very often in the last days19:15
matsubaraokie. so, I guess that's another one for Foundations19:15
matsubaraflacoste: can you keep it under the radar?19:15
flacostematsubara: sure19:16
flacosteUrsinha: bac is looking at it19:16
Ursinhathanks flacoste19:16
Ursinhaguess that's all for today19:16
matsubarabtw, thanks all for the effort on the fixes for yesterday's rollout. oops summary today's been very quiet.19:16
mptthanks Ursinha and matsubara19:16
Ursinhaindeed, kudos for you all :)19:17
mpt[TOPIC] Critical bugs19:17
MootBotNew Topic:  Critical bugs19:17
mptRinchen is away19:17
mptUrsinha, are there any?19:17
matsubaraI'll take care of that one19:17
mpt(other than the ones you've already mentioned)19:17
matsubarathere's only one not in progress which was re-opened by sinzui19:18
* sinzui show fix that19:18
matsubarabug 24787819:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 247878 in launchpad ""Contact details" section shows only one e-mail address" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24787819:18
sinzuis/show/should/19:18
matsubarasinzui: given your comment there, I guess you're going to take care of it, right? :-)19:18
matsubarathanks sinzui19:18
sinzuiI'll fix it tonight.19:19
matsubaragreat19:19
matsubaraback to you mpt. thanks19:19
sinzuiI'll look to land it tomorrow19:19
mptthanks19:19
mpt[TOPIC] Bug tags19:19
MootBotNew Topic:  Bug tags19:19
mptThere are no proposed tags.19:19
mpt[TOPIC] Operations report19:19
MootBotNew Topic:  Operations report19:19
mptherb?19:19
herbEarly Saturday (2008-07-19) did a cherry pick of r6726 to lpnet* and the script server.19:20
herbYesterday rolled out r6753.19:20
herbOn a couple of occasions in the past week we've had to restart codebrowse because it was unresponsive and using >40% of system RAM.19:20
herbOn a couple of occasions in the past week we've had to restart lpnet processes (3x in prod, 1x in staging) that had died leaving stale PID files. These have been related to the bug filed a few weeks ago, bug 247227.19:20
ubottuherb: Bug 247227 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/247227 is private19:20
herbThat's it from the LOSAs unless there are any questions for me.19:20
mptThanks herb19:20
mpt[TOPIC] DBA report19:20
MootBotNew Topic:  DBA report19:20
stubIts all been pretty static on the DBA front - no patches, no worries. Yay!19:20
stubNext stage of replication/read-only-launchpad should be up for review tomorrow. We will need more disk space on chokecherry to test this - it has been previously discussed and an rt ticket raised today in case it got forgotten.19:20
stubOut timeouts seem relatively good, so thanks everyone who has been opimizing the worst offenders!19:20
stubNothing else.19:20
mptok, thank you19:21
mpt[TOPIC] Sysadmin requests19:21
MootBotNew Topic:  Sysadmin requests19:21
mptWas anyone tracking these in Rinchen's absence?19:21
mrevellNot me. You matsubara?19:22
matsubaranot formally19:22
mptAnyone have urgent RTs?19:22
matsubarabut if there're any I can chase those19:22
matsubaraanyone?19:22
stubI can't find my rt ticket :-(19:22
stubnm - looks like disk got added when I wasn't looking19:23
mptokie dokie19:23
mpt[TOPIC] New packages required19:23
MootBotNew Topic:  New packages required19:23
mptsalgado?19:23
salgadoanything for me this week?19:24
salgadoprobably not, but anyway19:24
mpt[TOPIC] New user-affecting issue19:24
MootBotNew Topic:  New user-affecting issue19:24
mptNone from mrevell this week19:24
mrevellHi - sorry, been snowed under with the tour.19:25
mptand so we go sprinting onward through the agenda19:25
mpt[TOPIC] Doc Team report19:25
MootBotNew Topic:  Doc Team report19:25
mptmrevell, anything on this this week?19:26
mrevellNot relaly, I'm afraid.19:26
mrevellJust full steam ahead for next week.19:26
mptokay19:26
mpt[TOPIC] New MOTU liaison19:27
MootBotNew Topic:  New MOTU liaison19:27
mptIs this an old item that wasn't deleted?19:27
mrevellmpt:  I think it might have been, unless someone else raised it. Sorry, I should have deleted this but was on vacation after it was in the meeting.19:27
mptok, no problem19:27
mpt[TOPIC] Oopses for unauthorized exceptions19:27
MootBotNew Topic:  Oopses for unauthorized exceptions19:27
mptsalgado, is this current?19:27
salgadompt, it is19:28
salgadoWe sometimes present links to pages that the logged in user doesn't have the rights to see.  When users follow them they get the Forbidden page, but we don't record that (as an OOPS) like we do for 404s.  I think we should do that as we probably want to either hide these links or present them in a disabled form19:28
salgadothese would be listed in a separate section of the OOPS report, just like the 404s19:28
flacoste+119:28
salgadomatsubara, can we do that?19:28
thumper+119:29
mptThat seems like a good idea19:29
flacostethat would help debug permission problem as well19:29
salgadoflacoste, exactly19:29
flacostelike those reported by hobsee19:29
mptas long as the page has a referer19:29
abentley+1 for disabling, preferably with a "why" tooltip.19:29
mptSo, we've had a discussion a couple of weeks ago about how to present links that you don't have permission to visit19:29
thumperabentley: "disabled as you aren't l33t enough" :)19:29
mptThis is a related but separate issue, about finding the problems in the first place.19:30
salgadoright, but that's not what we're discussing here19:30
mptfinding the problem links in the first place, I mean.19:30
abentleythumper: But then what will it say for me?19:30
salgadoso, I'll file a bug to generate OOPSes for unauthorized exceptions19:30
matsubarasalgado: yes, we can do that. sorry, got caught up in the phone19:30
mpt[ACTION] salgado to report a bug on generating oopses for unauthorized exceptions19:30
MootBotACTION received:  salgado to report a bug on generating oopses for unauthorized exceptions19:30
salgadocool19:31
salgadoguess we've finished, then?19:31
mptThat's about it19:31
mptAnd so, as Launchpad's fluorescent green fades slowly into the cocktail of memory19:31
mptIt's time to bring this Launchpad developer meeting to a close.19:32
mpt#endmeeting19:32
MootBotMeeting finished at 13:34.19:32
mptthanks everyone19:32
mrevellmpt: Nice one Humph. Thanks.19:32
thumperthanks mpt19:32
flacostethanks mpt!19:32
salgadothanks mpt19:32
matsubarathanks mpt!19:32
Ursinhathanks mpt :)19:32
rockstarmpt, I LIKED the green1  :)19:32
flacosteso did others19:32
flacostegreen is peaceful :-)19:32
mrevellthat shade of green wasn't peaceful :)19:32
abentleyYep, me too.  At least there was some vibrancy there.19:32
barryit's not easy being green19:32
sinzuiSoon we can make a new Launchpad that is even greener19:32
mptrockstar, don't tell anyone, but I have a secret plan to bring it back19:32
mptIt will require a lot of tricky CSS though19:33
abentleysinzui: With hookers and blackjack?19:33
rockstarmpt, you're supposed to say that in the other channel!19:33
mptssssshhh19:33
rockstar+1 hookers and blackjack19:33
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