[03:05] <ZachL> What wav format does an audio file have to be in order to play as login sound?
[03:06] <ZachL> For Ubuntu..
[11:48] <thorwil> nand, hi, cool!
[11:49] <nand> thorwil: hey, yep, finally :)
[12:05]  * thorwil waves to _MMA_ 
[12:05] <_MMA_> yo yo.
[12:10] <thorwil> so how do we feel about surpassing apple? ^^
[12:11] <_MMA_> hahahahhahah
[12:11] <thorwil> ah, that's the sign of confidence i want to see!!
[12:12] <_MMA_> Honestly, not until we get things like Compiz working for everyone will that be a thought.
[12:12]  * thorwil hopes steve jobs doesn't stumble over that thrown down gauntlet
[12:12] <_MMA_> We can do better than we do, but it just ailt happening soon.
[12:12] <_MMA_> *ain't
[12:13] <_MMA_> Hi Neil.
[12:55] <pwnguin> well, the zdnet article is mistaken
[12:55] <pwnguin> apple doesn't look good becuase steve jobs is a good designer
[12:55] <pwnguin> NeXT isn't exactly pretty
[12:56] <pwnguin> macs look good because steve jobs knows his user base
[13:03] <kwwii> mac looks good because they pay a company full of people to make it look good ;-)
[13:11] <_MMA_> +1
[13:15] <thorwil> kwwii, yes, but that's not all. otherwise vista would look good, too
[13:25] <kwwii> lol, no doubt
[14:56] <DanaG> Here's a skin I used in my XP VM (until the VM broke, and I didn't bother fixing it): http://www.wincustomize.com/zoom.aspx?skinid=5498&libid=1
[14:56] <DanaG> I used the white-flag version.
[14:57] <DanaG> New version: http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=4221&libid=1
[14:57] <DanaG> And I use a nice bright orange theme when in Ubuntu.
[16:42] <DanaG> Yesterday I installed OpenSUSE 11 in a VM... and I found the artwork to be .... not much.  As in, not much of anything -- mostly, it's just plain green.
[16:43] <DanaG> Not even a logo on the bootsplash, in fact.
[16:43]  * zerwas mostly agrees
[16:43] <DanaG> The older versions with the spinny bootsplash were cooler -- and perhaps Ubuntu could do something similar.  I remember seeing a post about it on the mailing list.
[16:47] <DanaG> dang, can't find the concept.
[16:53] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and something about colored backgrounds for usplash: watch out for CRTs.  I know when I was using my CRT, I hated if it was bright at 60Hz.
[16:54] <DanaG> Aah, here's one usplash concept: http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/startup.html