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[reed]asac: when are you coming to Whistler?03:27
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gnomefreakasac: you up yet?05:13
gnomefreakanyone here using gmail and tbird or without tbird05:18
* gnomefreak cant remember the autoconf command to re do the autuconf patch05:39
gnomefreakyay got through the patches without an issue ;)05:52
gnomefreakok im heading back to try and sleep its already ~1:00 am05:52
gnomefreaki lied the patches failed to apply 2 or 3 of them each with hunks05:55
asacgnomefreak: yes07:43
[reed]asac: when are you coming to Whistler?07:44
asac[reed]: when will you?07:47
asac[reed]: i think i told Dan on Monday.07:48
[reed]you don't know when you flight is?07:48
[reed]I get there on Monday...07:48
asac[reed]: i know when my flight is ;) ... i arrive on sunday07:49
[reed]k07:49
asac(in vancouver ;))07:49
[reed]oke07:50
gnomefreakasac: what is the autoconf command to update the config patch? im hoping thats all it is or i have to go through each patch to see if applied upstream?09:11
gnomefreakah i have it i think09:12
gnomefreakit doesnt have conf patch :(09:15
gnomefreakMOZ_APP_DISPLAYNAME=Thunderbird is in the patch but its not in the rejects file. but in the patch ther eis no + or - next to it does this mean they dropped it from source?09:24
XioNoXhi !09:24
gnomefreakXioNoX: hi09:24
XioNoXgnomefreak, hi09:25
XioNoXasac, hi09:25
gnomefreakasac: good morning if you are still here09:26
gnomefreaki have this feeling that  MOZ_APP_DISPLAYNAME=Thunderbird in the patch and not being in reject file is the issue :(09:29
* gnomefreak goes for smoke its still a bit early to think09:30
asacarmin76: help ;)09:45
asacarmin76: do you have a sparc and hppa patch at hand that will make our xul 1.9 build?09:46
asacin hardy09:46
asac;)09:46
asachi gnomefreak, XioNoX09:46
armin76fails to build?09:46
armin76haha09:47
armin76wtf09:47
* gnomefreak thought rejects made a file called rejects.in(or something)09:47
armin76gives bus error during compiling? :D09:48
asacarmin76: no clue09:48
armin76hppa didn't build yet09:48
asacarmin76: yeah ;)09:48
asacit never built09:48
armin76why?09:48
armin76looks like a buildd problem?09:49
armin76Estimated build start:  2008-07-2509:49
armin76whee09:49
armin76i'll try to reproduce the sparc failure09:49
gnomefreakthats tomorrow09:49
gnomefreakasac: is there anything wrong with using -f if a patch fails to apply?09:58
* gnomefreak can think of a few things that can be wrong but it shouldnt give you option if it was wrong09:59
armin76asac: failing on hardy is rather interesting, could be gcc's fault...but its really weird10:10
gnomefreakbtw asac i started working on the responses page i got first snippet of code  finished i added apport instructions to make it easier on everyone reporter and us10:16
gnomefreakno more bug mail maybe ill start on the new bugs today but i really want to get tbird done or atleast get it past patch failure10:20
gnomefreakarmin76: i just read that hppa's toolchain isnt good10:24
gnomefreakmake that not happy10:24
gnomefreakso gcc is a very big chance why its failing10:24
armin76gnomefreak: hppa didn't start building yet10:27
XioNoXasac ?10:31
gnomefreakarmin76: oh i thought it failed on hardy10:31
gnomefreakasac: im going to lay down im feeliing dizzy, please give me a hint to this. build log is at http://pastebin.mozilla.org/498495 patch is at http://pastebin.mozilla.org/498443 and reject per build error is at http://pastebin.mozilla.org/498444 would be nice if reject file used +/- to help with errors but looks like MOZ_APP_DISPLAYNAME=Thunderbird should be removed from patch or redo patch with adding that10:36
gnomefreakill be back in an hour or so10:36
asacXioNoX: ? did you ask something ;)?11:19
asacmaybe you had a reconnect while typgin?11:19
asac10:46 -!- XioNoX [n=xionox@LAubervilliers-151-11-26-235.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to  host)]11:19
asac10:47 -!- XioNoX [n=xionox@LAubervilliers-151-11-26-235.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam11:19
asac;)11:19
asacthats the only thing i see between "hi" and "?"11:19
asac;)11:20
XioNoXho11:20
XioNoX<XioNoX> http://xionox.info/testmoz/plugin-finder.xul11:20
XioNoX<XioNoX> http://xionox.info/testmoz/plugin-finder.rdf11:20
XioNoX<XioNoX> http://xionox.info/testmoz/template-guide-ex2.rdf11:20
XioNoX<XioNoX> http://xionox.info/testmoz/template-guide-ex11.xul11:20
XioNoX<XioNoX> if you need an FTP acces, just ask11:20
XioNoXi've send that to gandalf11:20
XioNoXit show nothing11:21
XioNoXand the pfs namespace is weird11:21
zbranieckiwoot!11:22
Jazzvaasac, just an idea for some future development... auto-make of .desktop files for extensions for app-install-data package. I'll see to think of how it would work...11:22
Jazzvamaybe branch could be in m-e-d team, so desktop files are auto-pushed there...11:23
asacXioNoX: "http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title"11:23
asacthats wrong for sure11:23
XioNoXi don't know what is it11:24
asacXioNoX: the predicate is a reference11:24
XioNoXand it is not explained in the doc11:24
asacfor instance flashplugin (subject) has name (predicate) "Adobe Flash Player" (object)11:25
asacso the predicate should be a uri that represents: pfs:name11:25
asacwhich is basically the xmlns expanded + the name11:25
asacaka http://www.mozilla.org/2004/pfs-rdf#name11:25
asaci also would say that the ref is wrong11:26
asacprobably should be:11:26
asachttp://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#urn:mozilla:plugin:{cd50f9e1-58bb-11dd-a6a0-00096b89e1c2}11:27
asacbut that might be wrong11:27
XioNoXbut tis apply to the only first plugin11:27
XioNoXno ?11:27
asacyes11:28
asacbut thats what you are trying for now11:28
XioNoXyes11:28
asaci didnt start with ref="urn:mozilla:plugin:{cd50f9e1-58bb-11dd-a6a0-00096b89e1c2}" ;)11:28
XioNoXi've updated the file11:28
asacget that working ... thne you can go on11:28
zbranieckiXioNoX: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/RDF_in_Mozilla_FAQ ?11:28
XioNoXi haven't seen that page11:28
asachey zbraniecki11:29
zbranieckihi master asac :)11:29
asacok lunch time here11:29
asachehe11:29
asac;)11:29
Jazzvaasac, med-xpi-{un,}pack bashisms fixed and pushed :)11:29
asacJazzva: gratias11:29
Jazzvayou're welcome :)11:29
asacfinall some decent posh'isms ;)11:30
asacJazzva: does it work with posh now?11:30
Jazzvai tested med-xpi-pack yesterday, it works11:30
Jazzvamed-xpi-unpack had only "echo -e", so it should work too11:30
* asac suggests that every mozillateam member should use posh as /bin/sh alternative ;)11:30
asacjust kidding11:30
Jazzvawe need to be posh :P?11:31
asacnot sure ;)11:31
Jazzvaheh :P11:31
asacok reconsidered11:31
asacwill push lunch back 1h ;)11:31
asacXioNoX: but http://xionox.info/testmoz/plugin-finder.rdf is the syntax you are getting from plugin finder service, right?11:32
asacor did you tweak that file already?11:32
Jazzvahmm... med-xpi-pack places xpi in the same dir where the extension is unpacked, and not in cur dir11:33
Jazzvathat's wrong11:33
asac;)11:33
asacmaybe add an optional parameter: --outdir11:34
asac;)11:34
asacand use current dir11:34
JazzvaI think that's useless :)11:34
Jazzvayou should be able to specify output xpi with relative path, and it should work with it :)11:34
Jazzvafor example: med-xpi-pack extension_dir ../../mydir/some.xpi11:35
asacagreed11:35
Jazzvahmm... to test if "../../mydir/some.xpi" exist then...11:35
Jazzvas/some.xpi//11:35
Jazzvahmm... any easy way to turn something like relative into absolute path?11:39
Jazzvas/something\ like//11:39
asacJazzva: i usually do:11:49
asacabspath=`cd $relpath; pwd`11:49
Jazzvaproblem is that $relpath is the path to xpi file, for example "../bla.xpi"11:50
asacyes i understood11:50
asacdo the above line ;)11:50
asacoh11:50
asacyeah then:11:50
asacdir=$relpath11:51
asac[ -f $dir ] && dir=`dirname $relpath`11:51
Jazzvaah... :)11:51
asacabsdir=`cd $dir; pwd`11:52
asacabspath=$absdir11:52
asac[ -f $relpath ] && abspath=$absdir/`filename $relpath`11:52
asachehe11:52
asacwell not sure ;)11:52
asacprobably there exists just a command ;)11:53
asacbut why not have fun11:53
asacs/filename/basename/11:53
Jazzva$absdir is all I needed :).11:54
asacargh ;)11:57
asacsince this is my invention i searched google for what others do ;)11:57
asachttp://unix.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.unix.programmer/2005-01/0195.html11:57
Jazzvaheh.. :)11:58
asacnot sure if pwd is bashism?11:58
asacposh can do it ,)11:59
Jazzvacheckbashisms doesn't report it as a bashism11:59
Jazzvahmm... your method works when i have relpath as "./file" or "/path/file", but not when I just use "file" :)12:00
JazzvaAnyway, I don't think it's really important for this, so I'll just skip it :)12:00
asacwhy does it break?12:00
asacdirname file12:00
asacis .12:00
asaccd .; pwd12:01
asacshould work12:01
Jazzvahmm, right. Lemme see then12:01
Jazzvaworks now... don't know why it didn't work before12:02
Jazzvaok, pushing...12:04
Jazzvaoff for a while... see you later afternoon12:38
asacXioNoX: did you get a helping hand on this?12:56
gnomefreakasac: did you look at the 3 links i gave you? i would really lov eto continue my day13:00
asacgnomefreak: do you stil lhave that build tree?13:02
asacgo inside the build-tree/mozilla/ direcotry13:02
asacand type quilt top13:03
asaclet me know what happends13:03
gnomefreakyes13:03
gnomefreakasac: fix_installdir.patch13:03
asacgnomefreak: ok, then type:13:04
asacquilt push13:04
asacdoes it give you the same error as you pasted?13:04
gnomefreakFile series fully applied, ends at patch fix_installdir.patch13:04
gnomefreakIIRC that is the only patch in mozilla13:04
asacdo you have a patches dir in the mozilla/ dir?13:04
gnomefreaklet me see13:04
asacfix_installdir.patch13:05
asacthen in build fails:13:05
asacthunderbird-3-profile.patch13:05
gnomefreakno i dont13:05
asacok then do ln -s ../../debian/patches13:05
asace.g. create a link to the patches directory13:05
asacin debian/13:05
gnomefreaki have patches dir13:05
gnomefreaknow13:05
asacok13:06
asacgnomefreak: then quilt push ;)13:06
asacor quilt series13:06
asacto verify that the profile patch is in the series ;)13:06
gnomefreakFile series fully applied, ends at patch fix_installdir.patch13:06
asacgnomefreak: not sure then13:06
gnomefreakquilt series gives nothing13:07
asacthe thunderbird profile patch is still missing13:07
asacgnomefreak: yeah thats the problem13:07
asacthe patches link is wrong then13:07
gnomefreakasac: they are all missing except that one patch13:07
asacgnomefreak: true. problem is that the patches dir is still missing13:07
asacit has to link to the debian/patches/ directory13:07
gnomefreakthis upstream issue since its in mozilla?13:07
asacgnomefreak: no13:07
asacthats how quilt patches are applied13:08
gnomefreakhmmm13:08
gnomefreakpatches in mozilla is red rest are blue i cant cd into it or cat it and get output13:09
gnomefreakmaybe copying it from debian will work?13:09
asacgnomefreak: yeah because you messed the link up13:09
asacgnomefreak: dont do that13:09
asacmake the proper link13:09
asacthats the right way to go ;)13:09
asacgnomefreak: the other option is to set QUILT_PATCHES environment variable13:10
asacto the absolute path of the debian/patches directory13:10
gnomefreakk lets see if i can get link right ;)13:10
asacbut use the link ;) ... its harder to get wrong :)13:10
gnomefreakshould i link it from build/debian or from local debian/13:13
asacgnomefreak: i have no idea how the tbird 3 tree looks like13:13
asacdoes it have build-tree/mozilla/ or just mozilla/ ?13:14
gnomefreakbuild-tree/thunderbird..../mozilla13:14
gnomefreakbuild-area/thunderbird-3.0-3.0~a2~cvs20013:14
gnomefreak80721t0753+nobinonly/mozilla13:14
gnomefreakto be exaact13:14
asacbuild-area right? not build-tree13:15
asacok ... in top level dir there is a patches link?13:15
asacmake that there13:15
asace.g. next to the mozilla/ direcotry13:15
asacplace a patches link pointing to debian/patches13:15
gnomefreakok link is fixed13:16
asacquilt series shows something reasonable now?13:16
gnomefreakoh yeah13:16
asacthen do a quilt push13:16
gnomefreak6 patches13:16
asacif that gives you the "build error"13:16
asacthen you do a13:16
asacquilt push -f13:16
asacand fix the conflicting files13:17
asace.g. incorporate left out hunks that you can find in .rej files13:17
gnomefreakstill fails same hunk13:17
asacgnomefreak: right13:17
asacbut after quilt push -f13:17
asacyou can fix the conflict13:17
gnomefreakquilt push -f failed as well13:17
asacand then do quilt refresh --diffstat -U8 --no-timestamps13:17
asacgnomefreak: right13:17
asacthats ok13:17
asacthe difference is that it applied the patch13:17
asacso now you can fix the conflict13:17
asacjust open the .rej file and see what hunks where not added to the real file13:18
asacthen do that manually13:18
asacand run quilte refresh like above13:18
gnomefreaki wish it was a rej file tbh13:18
asacit is ;)13:19
asacat least what i saw in the error you posted looked like a conflict that would make a .rej file ;)13:19
asacwhen push forced13:19
gnomefreakstill doesnt tell me anything that i already didnt post :(13:20
gnomefreakonly difference is it has 2 halves - in top and + in bottom13:20
gnomefreakinstead of one full post13:20
gnomefreak- MOZ_APP_NAME=thunderbird + MOZ_APP_NAME=thunderbird-3.013:21
gnomefreakthat is all that is different13:21
XioNoXasac,13:22
gnomefreakthat is what the hunk of that patch did to begin with13:22
XioNoXgandalf is helping me13:22
asacgnomefreak: the big difference is that you can now just fix the conflict, then refresh the patch13:23
XioNoXjust a little copy/past :13:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> so what's fucked here13:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> is that you can't use the tag name "name"13:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> for some reason13:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> :/13:23
XioNoX<Pike> I don't know13:23
asacand you can go on13:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> who can help me?13:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> we have to use "name"13:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> cause PFS RDF is frozen13:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> check this:13:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/49861513:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/49861613:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> works smooth13:23
XioNoX<zbraniecki> until you switch "test" to "name"13:23
XioNoXso maybe the easier should be to swich directly to javascript13:24
asacwell that doesnt integrate that well into the current approach taken by the other addon panels. but in the end i dont care ;)13:25
zbranieckiXioNoX: ok, it does13:25
XioNoXthis 2 files was just for me, to understand better how it works13:25
zbranieckiI fixed it13:25
XioNoXok13:26
asacgreat13:26
asacso nothing blocking anymore now?13:26
asacfor this task ;)13:26
XioNoXintegrating the RDF into the richlistbox13:26
asacyeah13:26
XioNoXwill be fun13:26
asacthts the idea now13:26
asacId try to design it outside13:27
asacand then move inside and do only the final testing there ;)13:27
XioNoXzbraniecki, can you send me what you have done ?13:27
zbranieckiXioNoX: so, you can use the name13:27
zbranieckiin RDF13:27
zbranieckipfs:name13:27
XioNoXok13:27
zbranieckiand in the predicate13:27
zbraniecki but not as a variable name13:27
zbranieckiso just use ?ble13:27
zbranieckiin the pastebin examples13:28
gnomefreaki need to go through all the quilt commands? i fixed the conflict and did quilt refresh and it refreshed the patch now i still have to push ect...13:28
zbranieckiand it works13:28
asacplease use something more sensible though ;)13:28
asacenglish at best :-P13:28
asacgnomefreak: now quilt push13:28
asacuntil you reach the end13:28
asacthen _copy_ the patches/ directory into the bzr debian/ dir13:28
asacso you dont loose it13:28
gnomefreakApplying patch no_dynamic_nss_softokn.patch13:28
gnomefreakpatching file directory/c-sdk/component_versions.mk13:28
gnomefreakNow at patch no_dynamic_nss_softokn.patch13:28
asacand start from scratch ;)13:28
asacgnomefreak: yeah ... continue until you reach the top13:29
asacyou can fix all conflicts in one run in that way :)13:29
gnomefreakah ha13:29
gnomefreakok lets see how it goes :)13:30
gnomefreakplease work damnit13:31
asacgnomefreak: otherwise just do it again ;) ... wiht more care :-D13:31
asacyou are certainly making progress here13:31
gnomefreakasac: thanks13:31
gnomefreakbrb smoke hopefully when i get back patches are done13:32
asacyeah :) ... the build will be flickering on your screen13:32
asacok fun. auto crash reporting will be turned on next week13:35
gnomefreakoh i dont like this13:38
gnomefreakbzr blows big time13:38
gnomefreakasac: copying the patches dir copied as a symlink13:39
gnomefreakis there a way to unsymlink it13:39
asacgnomefreak: rm linkname13:40
asacwill remove it13:40
gnomefreaklinkname being patches?13:41
asacwhich should be ok if linkname is really a link and you dont wnat that link anymore13:41
asacyes13:41
gnomefreakummm rm patches will try to remove the dir no? or do i want ln rm patcheS?13:41
gnomefreakln --help not helpful13:42
gnomefreakchange that rm debian/patches removed patches13:43
gnomefreakok how do i clean up so i can get back before build attempt this last time?13:47
gnomefreakfakeroot debian/rules clean doesnt work13:50
gnomefreaki think i have it13:51
asacgnomefreak: copy the patches directory to your bzr tree13:53
asacthen start over13:53
gnomefreakasac: cant i cant get build-area/debian back after attempt build13:53
gnomefreakand build-area/mozilla doesnt have patches dir due to attempted build13:53
gnomefreakhow do i get them back after attempting to build13:54
gnomefreakusing bzr bd13:54
asacgnomefreak: they are in the debian/patches/ directory hopefully13:54
asacgnomefreak: you cant get them back13:54
asacyou lost them if you didnt copy them before13:54
gnomefreakthan its trashed13:54
asacthats why i told you like 10 times you have to copy them back13:54
asac;)13:54
asacyour fault :-D13:54
gnomefreaki copied it to locale debian/patches but the symlinkki got compied and you said rm patches will remove symlink and it removed the whole dir13:55
XioNoXasac, i've still issues with rdf templates :/13:55
XioNoXcheck this please : http://xionox.info/testmoz/template-guide-ex11.xul13:56
asachttp://www.xulplanet.com/rdf/myphotos14:00
asacwhy is that the ref?14:00
asacthats wrong for sure14:00
asachttp://www.mozilla.org/2004/pfs-rdf/test ... not sure, but thought it would be http://www.mozilla.org/2004/pfs-rdf#test14:01
asacbut can be wrong on my side14:01
fretchenasac : I saw that you worked on the configure-autoconf2-13-reconfigure patch . Is this a ubuntu/ebian specific patch or does fix something ?14:01
asacthats just a patch that updates configure14:01
asacits needed to enable the changes in configure.in14:02
asacso you have a bunch of patches against configure.in ... then at the end you have to update configure14:02
fretchenthx14:03
XioNoXasac, the http://www.xulplanet.com/rdf/myphotos was working14:07
XioNoXit is not the problem (i think)14:07
XioNoXbecause if we set <RDF:Description about="urn:mozilla:plugin-results:application/x-shockwave-flash"> and ref="urn:mozilla:plugin-results:application/x-shockwave-flash">14:08
XioNoXit don't work neither14:08
gnomefreakstarting over with latest build instead of 3 days ago ;)14:09
asacXioNoX: well, but saying that myphotos is not the problem because it doesnt work anyway, isnt really a good approach14:09
XioNoXit is not what i mean14:10
XioNoXmyphotos was working before14:10
asacthe ref="" has to be right14:10
asacthats for sure14:10
XioNoXj've just change the <pfs:plugins> group14:11
asacplease post example that works14:11
XioNoXans now even if i put it back, i got a blank page14:11
asacand then the one that broken ;)14:11
asac<member container="?start" child="?plugin"/>14:12
asacin this case ?plugin is the plugins element14:12
asacso you cannot get from there to the pfs:test element in one jump14:12
XioNoXhttp://xionox.info/testmoz/test2.xul14:13
XioNoXso whant can i do ?14:13
asac1st. please fix the namespace of RDF:Description14:15
asacyou get a parser error when opening http://xionox.info/testmoz/template-guide-ex2.rdf14:15
asacit has to be lower case14:15
XioNoXfix14:17
gnomefreakok figured out if i symlink from build-area/tbird.../debian/patches to mozilla/ i cant copy from mozilla/ to bzr dir as it wont build due to being a symlink14:17
asacXioNoX: before you can do the triple you have to properly select the Seq:li element somehow14:23
asacmaybe you can do content, triple, member, triple :)14:23
XioNoXand what i put in the first or second triple ?14:24
fretchenasac : the branch is online https://code.launchpad.net/~fretchen/sunbird/ubuntu-0.x.head14:26
asacXioNoX: first triple the prediate is the bridge element14:26
asace.g pfs-namespace + plugins14:26
asacsecond triple as usual14:26
XioNoXk14:27
XioNoXsomething like that ?14:31
XioNoXare they some rdf/xul debug tools ?14:34
fretchenasac : and if I want to create a sunbird 0.9 package I  follow this guide, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing#head-b205c74e27fe15e79e10c9e7f14d3cdfb359d81d  right?14:39
asacXioNoX: not that i know of14:41
asacits tough, but you will surely figure out14:41
asacfretchen: no14:41
asacfretchen: you just commit locally and push that to launchpad14:41
asacthen tell us and we wills ee what we can doi14:41
XioNoXasac, i don't think that i'll figure this out on my own14:42
XioNoXi've spend more than 1 day on it, and i haven't move forward14:42
* gnomefreak hopes i covered all my bases14:54
* gnomefreak runs outside scared to see if it fails on patches14:56
armin76ah...15:03
armin76asac: good, now ff3 gives bus error on sparc15:03
armin76not during compiling in my case15:03
armin76meh, you broke it!15:03
gnomefreakasac: btw found big bad bug in tbird+gmail its a new security feature in gmail brakes tbird. tbird cant retrieve mail from gmail (for me about every day or 2) gmail asks for password than asks you to type what you see in the box tbird cant do that15:05
gnomefreakim gonn assume evo outlook and such also have this bug15:05
asacgnomefreak: hmm ... dont get that here15:06
gnomefreakonly one of my boxes does it atm15:06
gnomefreaki have 8 or so15:06
gnomefreaki havent found what causes the "type what you see in box" yet it does it on correct password not wrong one (atleast not sure about wrong one)15:07
gnomefreakmaybe later ill send email to gmail guys to try and find out what sets it off15:08
gnomefreakhow the hell do you contact them now :(15:21
asacgnomefreak: he?15:30
asacgnomefreak: i dont get where you see that "type what you see" thing?15:30
asacin tbird?15:30
asaci doubt that15:30
gnomefreakasac: gmail interface15:30
asacyeah thats ok15:31
asacbut what does it have to do with tbird15:31
asactbird shouldnt be affected15:31
gnomefreakbut if tbird runs into that you have to go to gmail interface and type what you see than tbird will grab mail for a while than redo it again15:31
asacnot for me ;)15:31
asaci mean gmail is pop315:31
asacthat doesnt have such a feature15:31
gnomefreaki do and it pissing me off something awful15:31
gnomefreaki have pop315:31
asachow do you know that this is the problem15:32
asacmaybe its something unrelated15:32
gnomefreakwhen tbird tells me my username and password are wrong i go to gmail iunterface it asks me for the "whats in the box" i type it in it lets me in my box close it open tbird again and poof it works15:32
gnomefreakyhard to say its something else15:33
gnomefreak-y15:33
asacthats wierd15:33
asaci am sure that if you are not the only one seeing this, they get complains en-masse15:33
gnomefreakand very annoying15:33
gnomefreakcant contact them so who knows im on thier forums atm15:34
asacwhat are _their_ forums?15:48
asacdidnt know there are official gmail forums ;)15:48
gnomefreakits google forums for most part16:09
gnomefreakmaybe gmails16:09
gnomefreakhold on16:09
gnomefreakyeah its gmail asac  http://groups.google.com/group/Gmail-Help-Logging-In-en/topics?ctx=l_login16:10
gnomefreakthats one group16:10
gnomefreakyay tbird is still building ;)16:11
asacthats google groups, which is basically a service that has all kind of lists in its DBV16:14
gnomefreaklazertek: thanks now i can talk to more than one person16:15
gnomefreakasac: ah i saw gmail help discussions so figured gmail it is but i posted it there someone better frigging answeer it ;)16:15
gnomefreaklazertek: ok does disabling compiz help?16:15
gnomefreakasac: ff3 theme doesnt match his theme16:16
gnomefreaklazertek: in here please16:16
lazertekgnomefreak: no it didn't its still the same16:16
gnomefreakasac: his menus are grey and compiz doesnt change that16:16
gnomefreakff3 should use system theme (maybe desktop theme is better way to put it)16:17
lazertekgnomefreak: i tried changing the desktop themes too and i even went and checked the application menu colour and its set to black16:17
lazertekgnomefreak: and it shows black on all menu's except firefox16:18
gnomefreaki remember theme overhaul as in it no longer uses firefox-themes-* ect16:18
gnomefreaklazertek: if it was blak would you beablet o see it?16:18
gnomefreakbeable to*16:18
gnomefreakblack16:18
asaclazertek: did you relogin ?16:18
gnomefreaksorry i cant see what i type for a while16:19
asactry that16:19
lazertekgnomefreak: yea black ff3 theme i can see the menu's16:19
lazertekasac: what do u mean relogin?16:19
asaclogout + login ;)16:19
gnomefreaklazertek: log out and back in again16:19
lazertekasac: this has been for couple days...  i have loged in logout and restarted but nothing16:20
gnomefreakis it only on dark themes?16:20
asaclazertek: move your $HOME/.mozilla directory to a safe place.16:20
asacthen start without that directory16:20
asacdoes that help?16:20
* gnomefreak remembering a bug about dark themes that i couldnt reproduce16:20
asacdark themes has issues16:21
asaclazertek: pleaes provide a screenshot too16:21
asaci currently have no idea how the symptoms exactly look like16:21
* gnomefreak doesnt remember details of it though16:21
lazertekasac: give me a sec16:21
gnomefreaki have yet seen a change in themes from ff2 to ff316:22
gnomefreaklazertek: what version of firefox are you using? apt-cache policy firefox16:22
lazertek3.016:23
lazertekit was fine when i first installed ff3 it just happened randomly16:23
gnomefreaklazertek: i meant what version see command above16:23
gnomefreak3.0 doesnt tell me much sinc eyou should be on 3.0.1 anyway16:23
gnomefreakif hardy16:23
lazertek3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 0 ---16:24
asacwihtout a screenshot we cant continue here16:24
gnomefreakasac: you didnt push 3.0.1 to hardy?16:24
* gnomefreak thought you did before intrepid16:24
asacit is ... but that wont cure him most likely ;)16:24
lazertekasac: im uploadin it16:24
gnomefreakasac: i wasnt sure of the changes16:24
lazerteki have a slight suspicion it might be because of an add-on... not sure16:26
fretchenasac : could you review my check in please ?16:26
gnomefreaklazertek: thats why the move you $HOME/.mozilla to a safe place16:27
lazertekhttp://imagebin.org/2300016:27
lazertekgnomefreak: 1 sec..16:27
gnomefreaki dont see a dark theme on that page16:28
gnomefreaki see grey theme like mine but mine carried over from my window themes so i thought16:28
lazertekgnomefreak: that's not a dark one... on a dark one i can see the menu's... but on a light one like the uploaded image i can't see the menus16:28
lazertekeven if i change the theme to the default firefox theme it will be like that...16:29
lazertekis the move command mv in terminal.. or mvdir16:29
gnomefreaki see a bunch of screenshots16:29
gnomefreakpick one please16:29
lazertekgnomefreak: oh those are just a webpage i was visiting16:30
lazertekgnomefreak: look right under the titlebar16:30
gnomefreakthe one that says screenshots?16:30
gnomefreak2 tabs open orangee theme border16:30
lazertekgnomefreak: yea16:30
lazertek3 tabs btw16:31
gnomefreakoh i see16:31
gnomefreakeh ok 316:31
gnomefreakholy shit16:31
gnomefreaklazertek: do they function?16:31
lazertekgnomefreak: yea16:31
gnomefreaklazertek: is this with new profile?16:31
lazerteknew profile?16:32
gnomefreakor with $HOME/.mozilla moved to safe place and firefox  restarted?16:32
* gnomefreak was still under impression that tbird-3 wasnt built with xul yet :(16:33
lazertekgnomefreak: ha i moved the .mozilla folder and now it shows16:33
gnomefreaklazertek: its either a theme or an addon16:33
lazertekgnomefreak: guess i'll have to put em back one by one and figure out which one it is16:34
gnomefreakremove extras than add them back one at a time until you find the one that causes it. mind you restart ff between each one16:34
lazertekofcourse16:34
gnomefreak:)16:34
asaclazertek: if you reinstantiate the original folder, is it still broken?16:34
lazertekasac: you mean if i copy it back to its original location?16:35
asacyes16:39
lazertekits the folder that says firefox16:41
gnomefreakim gone for a while this is getting why to laggy to use16:42
gnomefreakmaybe 2 or so more hours till build is done16:43
asaclazertek: well. i said that you should backup .mozilla ;) ... not .mozilla/firefox16:43
asacso move the .mozilla folder back to its original place ;)16:44
asacand see if it still happens16:44
* gnomefreak thought it was defualt anyway16:44
gnomefreakbut eh later16:44
lazertekgnomefreak: later16:44
lazertekasac: i did backup .mozilla16:44
lazertekasac: but when copying each folder back when i put firefox back to its orginal location it made the menu's gray again16:45
lazertekasac:  i guess i can try disabling each plugin one by one and see if that changes anything16:45
asaclazertek: keep the backup backupped so we can reprouce.16:45
asacthen remove the places.* files in your profile16:45
asacanyway ... stilil havent seen a screenshot ;)16:46
asacah found it16:46
asaclazertek: try to start in safe-mode16:46
asace.g. firefox -safe-mode16:46
lazertekasac: i posted the screenshot link above16:47
asacyeah16:48
asactry safe-mode16:48
lazerteksafe mode doesn't change it16:48
asacdid you close firefox properly before?16:49
lazertekyea16:49
asacdid the command just return or kept running?16:49
asacok16:49
asachow did firefox look when you ran it in safe-mode?16:49
lazertekthe command just opnened fire fox and didn't return anything16:49
asacyes, but did you directly get back to a prompt?16:50
lazertekwell it asked me if i wanted to disable all add-ons etc... if that's what you meant16:50
asacok16:50
asacdid you do that?16:50
lazertekyes16:50
lazertekbut that still gave me a gray menu16:51
asacsure. so firefox had the default theme then?16:51
lazertekyea16:51
lazertekbut the menus were still grey16:51
asacare the menus grey, but usable or grey but locked?16:51
lazertekthey are gray and useable in both safe mode and normal16:52
asaclazertek: do you still have a backup copy of your profile?16:52
lazertekyes16:52
asacthen stop firefox16:52
asacremove localstore.rdf from your profile16:52
asacsee if it improves things16:52
asacif that doesnt help remove places*16:53
asacif that doesnt help remove *.js ;)16:53
lazertekwhere do i find these files in16:54
asacin your profile ;)16:54
asacdeep inside .mozilla/16:54
asacthere should be a profiles.ini or something that tells you where your profiles are ;)16:54
lazertekbut when i open .mozilla i only see 2 folders16:55
asac/home/asac/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini16:55
asacfor me ;)16:55
asacyeah you have to search16:55
asacbrowse a bit around ;)16:55
lazerteki see profiles.ini16:55
lazertekill just redownload all the addons16:56
lazertekthanks16:56
asacerr16:56
asacif you stop now you wasted my time ;)16:56
lazerteksorry biut that16:56
lazertek*bout16:56
asacnot nice. anyway, have a nice day16:57
lazertekyou helped me enough to fix my problem so thanks.. but i16:57
lazertekbut i can only deal with it to a certain point16:58
lazertekand i don't feel too good right now16:58
lazertekbut thatnks16:58
asacok. thanks.16:58
asacits fine ;)16:58
XioNoX-bye asac17:36
asacXioNoX-: cu17:37
* gnomefreak wonders why bzr bd doesnt allow me to sign packages17:43
gnomefreaktells me passpharse is wrong when it doesnt let me type in passphrase17:43
gnomefreakit seems the popup dialog for passphrase doesnt like to wait so it closes without input17:54
gnomefreakok ill be back later if it cools off a bit right now with ac on its 85degrees F in this room17:56
Wellarkasac: hi! is there packages of NM 0.7 for hardy, or atleast for intrepid somewhere?18:13
asacWellark: ~network-manager PPA18:14
Wellarkgreat! I can't see any mention of it on https://launchpad.net/network-manager though..18:17
Wellarkasac: is it "safe" to do an update of NM to 0.7?18:30
Wellarki.e. are you using it right now? :P18:30
asacWellark: i am using it yes18:42
asacWellark: at best take care that you have all the packages required to downgrade on your local disk :)18:42
Wellarkyeah, I thought about that also :)18:43
WellarkI'm horribly late of my schedule, because my son has been very sick and now I'm sick too :/18:46
Jazzvaevening...19:08
asachi Jazzva19:45
Jazzvahey asac...19:45
Nafalloasac: around?19:46
asacno, i ran out 20 seconds ago :)19:46
NafalloI get ssl_error_no_cypher_overlap19:46
Jazzvaasac, fta: When you have some free time I would like to hear what do you think of possibility to auto-make .desktop files for extensions for app-install-data package :)19:46
NafalloI need to get around that.19:46
asacNafallo: started today?19:47
Nafalloasac: specific page19:47
JazzvaI have some basic idea...19:47
asacNafallo: install nss from -proposed19:47
asacJazzva: i like it19:47
asacJazzva: just not sure how to properly figure out which icon to use19:48
Jazzvaasac, great :)19:48
asacyou could use the install.rdf info19:48
Jazzvaasac, well, one solution was to demand to put the icon inside debian, and just to pick that up19:48
Jazzvainstall.rdf?19:48
Jazzvait contains a link to the icon :)?19:48
Jazzvacool19:48
Jazzvas/link/path/19:48
asacJazzva: i think it contains a ref to an icon yes.19:48
Nafallolibnss3-1d 3.12.0.3-0ubuntu0.8.04.3 already installed19:48
asacnot sure if thats a chrome url19:49
JazzvaI'll write the basic idea on wiki, and then will give you the link...19:49
asacif its a chrome url, its not a big problem. we just need some smart code19:49
Jazzvaso we can discuss the details and get working on it :)19:49
Nafalloasac: can I do something else about it?19:49
asacJazzva: great19:50
asacNafallo: not sure19:50
Jazzva:)19:50
asacNafallo: does it happen with fresh profile as well?19:50
asacif not i'd say that your keystore contains something that causes this19:51
Nafalloasac: not sure.19:51
asacNafallo: try ;) ... move .mozilla folder away19:51
asac;)19:51
Nafalloasac: looks like I need to enable ssl219:53
Nafalloasac: I had to enable weak ssl3 rather.20:00
Nafallothanks anyway.20:00
fretchenasac : is it possible to use the debian folder, its configurations and its patches for everyday development work on a normal build directory too ?20:51
armin76asac: bumb!21:33
armin76hrm...thats rather interesting21:47
asacbug #25136922:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251369 in freetype "Please merge freetype 2.3.7-1 (main) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25136922:10
georgeguitarhi channel22:12
georgeguitarcan somebody help me22:12
georgeguitarI have a problem with ubuntu and firefox22:13
JazzvaHey georgeguitar. You can ask your question, but this is generally not a support channel. Shoot now. If someone knows the answer, you'll get it :)...22:13
Jazzva(just not to be misunderstood... "shoot" the question, not "shoot" out of the channel :))22:14
georgeguitarsorry, and what is the channel for support?22:14
Jazzva#ubuntu should be the one, as far as I know...22:14
georgeguitarok thanks22:14
JazzvaNo problem...22:15
Jazzvaasac, fta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/DesktopForAppInstallData22:35
Jazzvadraft version :)22:35
JazzvaI checked for grammatical and spelling errors. I hope it's not full of them :)22:35
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JazzvaAnd I hope I described the whole process...22:37

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