[00:14] Myrtti: What is amazing about english houses? [00:15] totally different concept than in Finland [00:15] not the standard 4 walls, roof? [00:15] we do have houses built like that next to eachother here too, but not in that extent [00:15] what are your houses like then? [00:16] single family detached houses [00:17] or apartment blocks [00:17] ah, so you mean the terraced houses here are different [00:17] yup [00:17] terraces are annoying [00:18] * Dave2 is currently in a semi-f [00:18] * Dave2 is currently in a semi-detached [00:18] * Seeker` is going to try to be in an end-terrace at least [00:18] if not a semi detached [00:19] what's semi detached? I can visualize attached and detached .. [00:19] terraced is a big long row [00:20] semi detached is just two houses [00:20] ah, we call that duplex [00:20] we call that house with garage [00:21] nalioth: people only tend to own one of the two houses :P [00:21] * Dave2 is in a semi with a garage. [00:21] dummies. Own both, rent the other for the cost of the building mortgage. [00:21] it contains about £50 worth of salt. [00:21] We're not quite sure why. [00:21] * Dave2 attempts tosleep [00:22] Dave2: Whereabours do you live? [00:22] * Myrtti goes to bed herself to read some Patricia Cornwell [00:22] nn [00:22] You know where I live! [00:22] nini folks [00:22] * Myrtti tugs Dave2 [00:22] I know you live in reading-ish, cant remember whereabouts exactl [00:22] what is with all this forensic entertainment? [00:22] And I don't really want to go into too much detail in a publicly logged channel [00:22] put the laptop away [00:22] sllllllllleeeeep [00:22] Dave2: PM? [00:22] no, sleep [00:22] * Dave2 nods [00:22] k, nn [00:22] * Dave2 obeys Myrtti, goes. [00:23] * Myrtti tucks Dave2 in [00:23] there you go [00:23] * Myrtti closes terminal windows [01:15] Sydero called the ops in #kubuntu () [03:10] Harahu called the ops in #kubuntu-offtopic () [03:12] Hobbsee: delt with [03:13] stdin: cool, thanks [03:17] So... is it possible with banforwards to actually get them to reocnnect? or is it "if they ever reconnect, they forward" [03:19] If you're hiding some sort of psychic super-weapon, we can get them to reconnect, otherwise, no. [03:19] if they are in the channel, you can try kicking rather than removing, as a lot of people have an auto-rejoin setting enabled [03:19] or kicking vs. removing [04:08] SNuxoll called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (PFA) [04:09] jtaji called the ops in #ubuntu () [04:10] jtaji called the ops in #ubuntu (dd smit otg) [04:12] * Hobbsee thought you people were supposed to be here. === tritium_ is now known as tritium [06:19] meaow [06:20] moo!! [06:20] didn't I ban otg while back? [06:20] * Flannel wouldn't know. [06:20] since, I know you were asking me personally Myrtti [06:20] 06:10 <+FloodBot1> otg_ sent 4 messages while muted [06:21] @btlogin [06:21] This is nice to see :) http://www.linux.com/feature/142083 [06:22] oh, and good morning all! [06:22] aha [06:22] I did [06:40] when will the people of #ubuntu learn that #ubuntu-devel is *not* the place to get support on how to compile random applications? [06:40] Development of Ubuntu (not support, not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/feisty/gutsy/hardy, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid [06:41] that should be *pretty* obvious [06:55] The day everyone reads the topic, or even agrees that it 'applies to them' will be the day world peace breaks out [06:55] it will be a hoot [06:55] world hunger ends [06:55] "Ever been here before? No? Did someone here suggest you come? No? Ah, then you should probably go away. Here - throw out my banana peel on your way out." [06:55] all nations hug each other [06:56] * nickrud thinks tonyyarusso doesn't believe in world peace ;) [06:56] Someone might find that topic in conflict with that little thing we call the CoC though - darn. :P [06:56] * tonyyarusso hits nickrud over the head until he just smiles and nods at everything [06:56] * nickrud takes the bananna peel and leaves [06:58] ok, I think I just found my funny thing of the day... [06:58] a quote from -ot... [06:58] [08:54:19] topyli, YOU WINN!!!! YOU ARE THE 1,000TH COMPANY BEING E-MAILED! CLICK HERE FOR A FABULOUS PRIZE! YOU WIN ME AS AN EMPLOYEE! CLICK HERE!! [06:58] The best part is it actually makes perfect sense in context. [06:59] yep [07:19] * Myrtti yawns === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [11:04] * Myrtti yawns [11:04] mornin [11:06] * Mez shoves a sock in Myrtti's mouth [11:06] * Myrtti looks around [11:06] * Myrtti takes the sock off and blushes [11:11] @banlog dolphin_noel #ubuntu [11:11] bazhang: No matches found for dolphin_noel (dolphin_noel!*@*) in #ubuntu [11:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/29927/ wow [11:55] serious contender for top 10 worst sources.list of all time [11:56] not good [11:56] 6.10 _feisty Eft_ [11:56] lol [11:56] dapper [11:56] breezy [11:56] they are all in there [11:56] breezy [11:56] haha [12:06] variety is the spice of life [12:07] as is breakage [12:12] missed the debian one [12:15] wtf [12:16] s/f/fruitcake/ [12:16] all that is missing really is automatix [12:16] bazhang, and envy pre-ng [12:16] elkbuntu, righto :) [12:17] btw, there's a new tweak script of the same calibre out there, for the eee, listed on the eeepc/fixes page on help.ubuntu.com :-/ [12:17] * bazhang is not sure whether to cheer or boo [12:17] boo [12:18] "sudo apt-get install -y -f build-essential module-assistant eeepc-acpi-source --force-yes" [12:18] uh, boooo! [12:18] * elkbuntu twitches [12:18] argh [12:18] the messes with modules without preserving a backup [12:19] whoa [12:21] seems they took it off the help page, good [12:25] bazhang, http://code.google.com/p/eeescripts/downloads/detail?name=ubuntueeetweak.sh&can=2&q= [12:25] elkbuntu, sweet thanks [12:26] it also sets the powersaving to dull the screen after only 10-15 seconds or something [12:26] sucks when you're reading something [12:27] sheesh [12:28] In #ubuntu, \|\|raith said: ubottu: why is kvm preferred over the others? [12:28] read faster :P [12:28] haha [12:29] nalioth, read that script though. it's going to turn into another ax [12:29] someone should kosherize it [12:29] Find a rabbi to bless it? [12:30] thankfully, it isn't for mainstream applications [12:30] to check thru the ingredients and make suggestions with what to replace the corn syrup [12:31] http://www.ajhs.org/publications/chapters/chapter.cfm?documentID=270 [12:31] * Tm_T hugs Myrtti [12:32] nalioth, no, just aimed at anyone who has an eeepc [12:32] Myrtti: Interesting [12:33] I thought so too [12:35] oh well [12:36] today is the workmate bbq evening [12:36] have to go get some red wine and straight vodka [12:36] just need beer for a bbq [12:36] I believe the chef has some plans for the vodka and the red wine [12:37] I'm just paying [12:38] ah [12:38] chefs need their lubrication, i guess [12:39] OOOOHHH regex cheat _SKIRT_ [12:39] "Is the shirt difficult for you to read due to anatomy?" [12:39] My manager is taking my team out to lunch today. [12:39] Myrtti: ?! [12:39] http://store.xkcd.com/ ♥ [12:40] he's funny and smart... I bet he's not single [12:41] I should buy some tshirts [12:41] not that it matters that much currently [12:41] Myrtti: nice skirt, you definately have one [12:42] yes, I should have one skirt atleast [12:47] http://xkcd.com/385/ <- hrrrr [13:23] Tm_T: smells like a troll :) [13:23] Jucato: smell, but haven't shown his tail yet ;) [13:23] Tm_T: his first sentence showed a bit of tail :) [13:24] anyway, your prey :P [13:24] only few hairs ;) [13:27] Jucato: see? ;) [13:28] right :) [13:28] hey I can't be right all the time... otherwise I'd be god :P [13:28] Jucato: yes, you're only son of a god, son ;) [13:28] the implications of that sentence are.... :P [13:29] * Tm_T hides [14:02] hmm, AntiMage spamming? [14:27] In #ubuntu, KenBW2 said: ubottu: this tutorial is aimed at Feisty, will it work for Hardy? [14:29] splitting headaches \o/ hell yes! [14:36] In ubottu, korund said: no, i can mount home on separete partition, but if its partition is less than sd*16 [15:01] bazhang: why the ban? [15:01] Pici, was he not starting a massive spam [15:01] bazhang: I'm pretty sure that was it [15:01] okay; will unban [15:02] fixed [15:03] Pici, ^^ [15:04] a remove is best for inadvertent pastes [16:08] did someone deal with smallfoot in -offtopic? [16:08] @btlogin [16:09] nay [16:12] pity [16:12] [01:12] either way though, it's really not my fault that you decided to flame me, and your persistence in blaming me makes me very inclined to think that you've not learned your lesson about acceptable conduct. [16:13] if someone wants to deal with him, and remove it, feel free. [16:14] when I get access I will! :) [16:15] * Hobbsee can give temp access, no problem :P [16:17] [01:16] Hobbsee, you banned me, so its your fault, that i cant enter #ubuntu-offtopic, so please unban me [16:17] the guy never learns... [16:20] Greetings all friendly channel operators. I am unable to join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel because Hobbsee have banned me. I have been banned for many months, ever since May, it is now past due time that the ban gets lifted. I am not able to participate in the Ubuntu community since I have been banned, and now I feel excluded. [16:20] * Hobbsee points out hte most recent log at http://rafb.net/p/A73vg718.html [16:24] * smallfoot- notes that it is pasted as C++ [16:24] * smallfoot- requests to get unbanned [16:25] * Hobbsee requests that smallfoot- stops blaming her all the time, for being banned, when it was smallfoot-'s choice to misbehave. [16:25] wow, you're a she???+++ [16:25] asl ?? [16:25] smallfoot-: #ubuntu-offtopic is not required "ubuntu community" [16:26] nalioth, I believe it is a central piece... [16:26] smallfoot-: take your ASL, and be gone [16:26] nalioth, since #ubuntu is only for support-related inquires.. [16:26] this isn't the place for that [16:26] smallfoot-: and if you think that's going to help you.... [16:27] Hobbsee, I hold no grudges against you for what you did. I just want to get over with it. Do the right thing. [16:27] smallfoot-: id' prefer you not to tell me what to do, thanks. particularly as it was *you* who couldn't behave in the first place. [16:27] smallfoot-, best to part now [16:27] Hobbsee, well, I cant join #ubuntu-offtopic, why? Because YOU banned me! [16:27] because you misbehaved. [16:28] don't misbehave, don't get banned. why is this so complicated? [16:28] smallfoot-, /part now please. [16:28] This is what happens when they give girls op, "Oh, look she has boobs, let give her ops!", then they go and ban people! Unfair!! [16:29] nalioth: ^ [16:29] epic fail on the part of that guy. [16:31] i wonder how he manages to stay in #ubuntu for very long... [16:32] he knows from two bans and long PMs with me I will brook no guff from him. [16:34] with that attitude, he's very unlikely to reach the solution he's after [16:34] exactly. [16:34] seemed to confuse #ubuntu with #whine [16:35] jpds, poing [16:36] nalioth: so, when will you grow some boobs? clearly, you need to have them to get ops. [16:36] * bazhang needs some brain bleach [16:36] Hobbsee: you should see mine [16:36] x2 [16:36] hahaha [16:37] bazhang: with babyoil and chesthair, want some? [16:37] oh dear [16:37] now we've got another emma [16:37] nalioth: nuke that channel, please [16:37] [01:36] If anyone wants to chat about Ubuntu in a relaxed fashion, then you can join #ubuntu-social the Ubuntu Social Club! Happy times! [16:37] Tm_T, zomg [16:37] * Hobbsee throws him out of +1 aind #ubuntu [16:37] Hobbsee: nice move from him, though false move [16:37] yes, from everywhere he said that [16:38] indeed. [16:38] it's in our namespace. [16:39] nice work [16:39] guess we've gotten quicker, after she who cannot be named. [16:39] hi [16:39] yes? [16:40] this is very unfair [16:40] no, you may not advertise in #ubuntu channels. it's offtopic, for support channels. [16:40] smallfoot-: what is? [16:40] i made my own place, and then they took it away from me [16:40] smallfoot-: please tell us what you are telling me in PM [16:40] Tm_T, i made an own room on this chat, and i was the boss of it, then they took it away from me :( [16:40] smallfoot-: it's fair [16:41] why? if i created the room, its means its mine, so nobody can take it from me? [16:41] smallfoot-: untrue [16:41] oh [16:41] smallfoot-: http://freenode.net [16:41] network policies are explained [16:41] well, i think its unfair, if i make a room, it should be mine, and nobody should take it from me [16:41] its like if i build a house, you cant go itno my house and kick me out and take it from me [16:41] please note that spamming other channels that do not conform to Ubuntu IRC standards is not welcome in Ubuntu channels [16:42] i didnt spam them, i just invited them to the social club [16:42] smallfoot-: go read the policies, please [16:42] smallfoot-: making it simple (dunno why I do but) all #ubuntu* channels belongs to Ubuntu [16:42] you say 'invite', we say "spam" [16:42] if you are in the city and walk, then someone can ask you to join their club [16:42] we've had this argument with another person. don't even bother. [16:42] smallfoot-: do what nalioth say, read freenode policies so you understand how this works [16:42] they did not win. [16:43] nalioth, if i ask in #windows to join my club that is about ubuntu, its spam, or if i ask 100 times to join it, then its spam, but if i ask in the ubuntu channel to join the ubuntu club once, then its invite [16:43] smallfoot-: because, freenode isn't public street, it's "shopping mall" in this analogy [16:43] Tm_T, i think its unfair, that you can own all the #ubuntu* channels [16:43] smallfoot-: read the policies, please. they are quite simple [16:43] smallfoot-: it's not, and we cannot change that, I believe anyway [16:44] if i make another channel, that doesnt contain the name *ubuntu* it will be my own, or people will steal it? [16:44] smallfoot-: if you out of line with freenode policy, no. [16:44] oh okie [16:44] which is why i keep advising you to read them [16:44] :) [16:44] ok [16:44] smallfoot-: really, read them, it's for your own good afterall :) [16:45] hi StevenK and ejer [16:46] well, the thing is i want a channel that caters to ubuntu users, because i use ubuntu, so i want to make a channel where ubuntu users can chat and have fun [16:46] but if i use name *ubuntu* then they will steal my channel, but if i dont use it, then ubuntu users dont know the channel is for ubuntu users [16:46] smallfoot-: if you display a better attitude, you can use #ubuntu-offtopic for that purpose [16:47] but they banned me from there, for very long time, i waited patiently, since may, and came back many times and requested to get unbanned, but the people were unreasonable and refused to unban me even after pleading serveral times, i had no choice but to make my own room [16:47] bazhang: piong [16:47] jpds, PM? [16:47] you said htat above, and got a response above. you also said that on monday. [16:47] smallfoot-: your "boobs" comment was meant to be socially accpetable? [16:47] bazhang: Sure, anytime [16:48] nalioth, well i get so angry, she is the one who banned me, its her fault i cant join the channel [16:48] no [16:48] nalioth, also, in this channel its not, but i want to create a channel where everything is allowed, because it will be "social" and "open" so it will be relaxed, and not strict [16:48] it's _your_ fault [16:48] smallfoot-: but son, it's your fault to get banned, right? like, it's your fault if you go into jail not police? [16:48] smallfoot-: freenode doesn't allow "everything is allowed" channels [16:49] Tm_T, if i rob a bank or kill someone, the police must take me, but if i walk on red light, the police must not put me in prison [16:49] smallfoot-: even if laws say so? [16:49] nalioth, wow that sucks, i dont like channel where i must always act in certain way, because its tense and stressing, i like channel where i can laugh, and joke, and have fun without rules, i want stressfree and relax calm channel [16:50] smallfoot-: there's other irc networks, like quakenet [16:50] smallfoot-: freenode is here to support free and open source software, not provide you with a hookup joint [16:50] Tm_T, hmm.. yes, its like if there is law say i cant download mp3, then i must do it anyways, and the police must not take me to jail [16:50] it's for collaboration, not lining up cohabitation [16:50] nalioth, hmm.. yeah, but it does provide free open source software support, but i also like to be relax and calm and chillout, to get away from the stress [16:51] smallfoot-: if law says something, police has to act so, or there will be no laws [16:51] smallfoot-: but again, feel free to try other irc networks [16:51] nalioth, and that i would like todo with like-minded people, people who are foss enthusiasts [16:51] Tm_T, i want be with like-minded people, people who are foss enthusiasts [16:51] smallfoot-, PM [16:51] smallfoot-: there are those people in other irc networks too [16:52] Tm_T, law doesnt know what is right, and if there is law that i should not download mp3, then i must do it anyways, or law i cant wear purple boots, i must do it anyways, in china they told military to kill people in tianamon square, and military shouldnt do that, but they did it [16:53] smallfoot-: then change law, son [16:53] Tm_T, its hard to find so many of them at same place, freenode is nice place for meet foss people, just need some fun relax channel [16:53] Tm_T, yes, need do that, but im so little [16:53] smallfoot-: how is flaming someone being part of a fun and relaxing channel? [16:53] smallfoot-: do you think they feel like they're having fun, and relaxing, when you're flaming them? [16:53] Hobbsee, i dont remember what i said [16:54] do you think they're having fun, if you're attempting to hit on them? [16:54] Hobbsee, well they can have ignore button, and i dont think i jump to someone and flame them for no reason, only if tey ban me [16:54] yes, it makes them feel special and appreciated [16:54] dude, you're massively deluded. [16:54] I don't think you can have anything more to say here [16:54] like once someone said i was pretty, and it made my day [16:55] i was happy many days after [16:59] hi Seeker` [16:59] yo [16:59] smallfoot-, there is really nothing left to be said. best to /part now [16:59] hmm, is StevenK known? [16:59] Tm_T: yes [16:59] Tm_T: he is [16:59] roger [16:59] ok [16:59] smallfoot-, unless you wish to apologize to all and sundry. [16:59] but i have talked with the other boss guy [17:00] and he said i can make my own room, that nobody can steal, if use 2 ## infront of name instead of 1 # [17:00] smallfoot-: why are you going through all the trouble? /msg alis list *ubuntu* [17:01] Seeker`: pm? [17:01] nalioth, because i cant join the offtopic channel, because im banned, and people refuse to unban me [17:01] jpds: sure [17:01] smallfoot-: opening a revenge channel is not the way to "get back at them" [17:02] nalioth, maybe, but that way i can have my own place, and people can come, and we can chat, and have fun and be happy and without get ban [17:02] smallfoot-, apologize for the comments you made earlier would be a good start. [17:02] hmm ok [17:02] Hobbsee, I apologize for saying they gave you ops because you have boobs, and that you abuse it to ban people. [17:03] smallfoot-, that was not what I had in mind at all. [17:03] bazhang, oh, how you mean? [17:03] smallfoot-, care to PM? [17:04] ok [17:05] msg me [17:11] * Tm_T hugs Hobbsee [17:35] anyone remember the tor factoid with the link to the russians who cracked it? [17:35] !tor [17:35] Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks [17:35] it's not there anymore, hmmmmm [17:35] no, it's not. [17:38] you mean this? http://origin.arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070910-security-expert-used-tor-to-collect-government-e-mail-passwords.html [17:42] nalioth: Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks [17:45] :) [17:46] first voice in a while :) [17:51] not seen ljl for a while [17:51] speak of the debbil [17:51] who me ? [17:52] you? neeeveer! [17:52] * bazhang points to l J l [17:54] Tm_T: yeah, i found it in some old logs [17:54] too bad the page still isn't active [17:54] I see [17:55] http://web.archive.org/web/20070209121336/http://tor.unixgu.ru/ the message is still current, just not the sniffed IPs [17:57] !idle | smallfoot- [17:57] smallfoot-: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [18:06] sorry, i was eating dinner, i was away from computer [18:45] wow [18:47] wow? [18:50] Seeker`: just reading the backlog [19:13] tonyyarusso: oy! [20:16] fujin called the ops in #ubuntu () [20:18] beat ya Pici :p [20:18] meh [20:19] meh indeed [20:25] goddamn [20:25] hello [20:25] scrollback? [20:25] no, too drunk to read that [20:25] zwnj: Hello, can we help you? [20:26] its the first thursday after payday [20:28] congrats? [20:28] Oh, you had that workmate thing, I forgot. [20:28] anyway, time to go for a bit [20:29] hi Pici [20:30] Pici: i'm getting mail spams from canonical's list server [20:30] but i wasn't sure how to notice the system admins [20:36] zwnj, email mailman@lists.ubuntu.com [20:37] ok, thanks Mez [20:59] zwnj, please see topic [20:59] thanks and bye :) [21:08] yay n95 [21:09] * PriceChild reattatchs lappy to screen [21:10] mmm keyboard [21:15] * Seeker` would apply to be on the council, but isn't an ubuntu member [21:17] * jpds doesn't need more responiblity placed on him. [21:19] how I add comments to bantracker? [21:19] "@mark user your_comment", if I remember that e-mail right [21:20] @whoami [21:20] Seeker`: I don't recognize you. [21:20] :( [21:20] @login [21:20] Seeker`: The operation succeeded. [21:20] @whoami [21:20] Seeker`: seeker` [21:22] * Seeker` would like to be on the council [21:22] tonyyarusso: oy oy [21:22] wheee [21:23] * mneptok gestures tonyyarusso toward a PM window [22:15] hmh, I don't know what to do with these "use envyng" guys, should I just let them be or what... [22:16] i thought envy was "supported" now [22:16] Seeker`: community support [22:16] restricted drivers are restricted, just like, long face is long, you get what you get [22:16] isn't that what #ubuntu is? [22:17] is there an envy community? [22:17] Seeker`: yes, but, should we promote it over "official" ways? [22:18] no [22:18] where are they promoting it? [22:18] #ubuntu [22:18] * ompaul hands Seeker` the do keep up card ;-) [22:19] !envy [22:19] envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package. [22:19] if it is supported by the community, then I dont think it is right to say "you cant suggest it in #ubuntu", as #ubuntu is community support [22:19] Seeker`: that's not my point, son :) [22:19] it should be said "use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails" not just "use envyng" [22:20] im inclined to agree with Tm_T. [22:21] now, time to catch a train [22:22] elkbuntu: have fun :) [22:22] tack a or if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer (at your own risk) [22:23] jussi01: yeah, but you should be sleeping now, son [22:23] rofl... true [22:23] * Tm_T sings lullaby for jussi01 [22:24] * jussi01 goes to bed so he doesnt have to hear that horrble singin... [22:24] :P [22:24] good choice, padawan [22:32] * ompaul looks on [22:32] I will edit that methinks [22:33] * Myrtti noms gouda [22:34] !envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!! if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk [22:34] But envyng already means something else! [22:34] !no envyng is envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!! if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk [22:34]