| vorian | even with kdelibs installed from svn, still get this error on kdebase-workspace | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| vorian | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgeneral | 00:20 |
| apachelogger | vorian: kdepimlibs and phonon are build-deps as well, aren't they? | 00:25 |
| apachelogger | vorian: http://www.nabble.com/Re:-Build-error-linking--lgeneral-p15134323.html | 00:27 |
| * apachelogger pokes Xand3r_laptop | 00:31 | |
| Jucato | kdepimlibs shouldn't be a dep of kdebase* anymore I think | 00:32 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: ? | 00:32 |
| * apachelogger shrugg0rs | 00:32 | |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: shouldn't you be in bed or something? | 00:32 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: -.- | 00:33 |
| * apachelogger dances to moby's last night | 00:33 | |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: have you an idea how i can share files vie the network? | 00:34 |
| Xand3r | somthing like nfs | 00:34 |
| Xand3r | with a gui | 00:34 |
| Xand3r | but working | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | nfs | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | smb | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | ssh | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | irc | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | trt | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | usb | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | eth | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | wfi | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | stuff like that | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | W: klinkstatus-kde4: unusual-interpreter ./usr/share/kde4/apps/klinkstatus/scripts/statistics.rb #!kross | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | ok | 00:36 |
| apachelogger | now | 00:36 |
| Jucato | I was almost expecting to find "wtf" at the end of that list :) | 00:36 |
| apachelogger | seriously | 00:36 |
| apachelogger | someone burn lintian | 00:36 |
| apachelogger | that thing is a witch | 00:36 |
| apachelogger | always manges to make me grumpy with stupid warnings | 00:36 |
| * Xand3r is listening to Burn The Witch by Queens of the Stone Age on Lullabies To Paralyze [Amarok] | 00:38 | |
| Xand3r | ^^ | 00:38 |
| vorian | kdepim is taking forever to build! | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | tell me about it ;-) | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | but | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | worst package is kdebindings | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | 4.4 MiB | 01:15 |
| vorian | yeah, i'm glad you did that first | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | but takes ~1 hour to build | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | that is pure magic to me | 01:15 |
| vorian | haha | 01:16 |
| vorian | so, with the distro cmake error on kdebase-workspace... | 01:16 |
| vorian | what is the fix? | 01:16 |
| vorian | as for a -us -uc build | 01:16 |
| apachelogger | hm | 01:17 |
| apachelogger | vorian: throw over the debian directory | 01:17 |
| apachelogger | I will digg into it | 01:17 |
| vorian | kk | 01:20 |
| apachelogger | hum | 01:20 |
| apachelogger | hell | 01:20 |
| apachelogger | dpkg: error processing kdelibs5-data_4.1.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--install): | 01:20 |
| apachelogger | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/makekdewidgets.1.gz', which is also in package kdelibs5-dev | 01:20 |
| * apachelogger sings - there we build again | 01:22 | |
| vorian | you have mail | 01:23 |
| apachelogger | <3 mail | 01:24 |
| apachelogger | vorian: could take some time, bindings is eating all performance :S | 01:29 |
| vorian | noooo | 01:29 |
| apachelogger | vorian: go start backporting :P | 01:29 |
| vorian | let me finish pim first | 01:30 |
| apachelogger | ok | 01:30 |
| vorian | ug | 01:37 |
| vorian | for | 01:37 |
| vorian | e | 01:37 |
| vorian | ver | 01:37 |
| === vore is now known as erov | ||
| apachelogger | vorian: at what percentage did the build error occur? | 01:49 |
| vorian | 9% | 01:49 |
| apachelogger | [ 30%] Generating kscreensaveradaptor.cpp, kscreensaveradaptor.h | 01:49 |
| vorian | YIPPEEE! | 01:49 |
| vorian | my system is borked! | 01:49 |
| apachelogger | ^_^ | 01:50 |
| apachelogger | maybe mine is b0rked ;-) | 01:50 |
| vorian | haha | 01:50 |
| apachelogger | well, we will see what the buildds think | 01:50 |
| vorian | right | 01:50 |
| apachelogger | hm | 01:54 |
| apachelogger | funky build error with bindings though :D | 01:54 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/30150/ | 01:54 |
| apachelogger | oh, newish files | 01:55 |
| vorian | 90% | 01:58 |
| apachelogger | vorian: build-dependency bump of kdebase was incomplete | 02:06 |
| apachelogger | kdepimlibs5-dev (>= 4:4.1.0), libphonon-dev (>= 4:4.0.80), libplasma-dev (>= 4:4.0.98), | 02:06 |
| vorian | i seeeeee | 02:07 |
| vorian | pim failed again | 02:09 |
| vorian | bleh | 02:09 |
| vorian | apachelogger: would it make sense that korn.install would be empty? | 02:19 |
| apachelogger | vorian: was it before? | 02:19 |
| vorian | there were 10 or so lines | 02:19 |
| apachelogger | vorian: did korn got removed? | 02:20 |
| * apachelogger should go to bed | 02:20 | |
| vorian | no | 02:20 |
| vorian | it did not get removed | 02:20 |
| apachelogger | staying up that late can't be good | 02:20 |
| vorian | lol | 02:20 |
| apachelogger | vorian: so why should it be empty now? | 02:20 |
| vorian | well, it had no files to install | 02:21 |
| vorian | remaining | 02:21 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 02:21 |
| apachelogger | I don't get it | 02:21 |
| apachelogger | vorian: it doesn't install any files anymore? | 02:21 |
| vorian | i ran the dh_install --sorcedir bla bla | 02:22 |
| vorian | I kept removing missing files | 02:22 |
| vorian | then, on the list of files in debian/tmp, there were no files | 02:23 |
| vorian | confused yet :P | 02:23 |
| apachelogger | +1 | 02:23 |
| apachelogger | why would they not remove it but deactivate any installation? | 02:23 |
| vorian | i dunno | 02:24 |
| apachelogger | http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=835437 | 02:25 |
| vorian | f-that | 02:25 |
| apachelogger | my system is exploding | 02:25 |
| apachelogger | vorian: comment out the portions in debian/control and ask master riddell to remove the binary package from the archives | 02:26 |
| vorian | roger that | 02:26 |
| vorian | apachelogger: remove the related debian korn.* files as well? | 02:26 |
| apachelogger | nope | 02:26 |
| apachelogger | they will not get used anyway without the control entry | 02:27 |
| vorian | ah, gotche | 02:27 |
| apachelogger | 3:30am | 02:30 |
| * apachelogger begins wonder what exactly the point of going to bed is | 02:30 | |
| apachelogger | oh right, not loosing communication capabilities | 02:30 |
| apachelogger | is that actually a word | 02:30 |
| ScottK-laptop | Like that's a good thing. | 02:30 |
| apachelogger | d'oh | 02:49 |
| * apachelogger has networkmanager 7 installed | 02:49 | |
| apachelogger | -.- | 02:49 |
| vorian | I hate pim atm | 03:11 |
| === |Aryn| is now known as aRyn | ||
| * skreechmiester loves vorian for hating pim | 04:11 | |
| vorian | <3 | 04:11 |
| Jucato | if you hate kopete, he will love you even more :) | 04:14 |
| * ScottK-laptop has no trouble with that one. | 04:15 | |
| vorian | +1 | 04:15 |
| * skreechmiester h8 | 04:17 | |
| skreechmiester | Jucato: Saw the new plasmoid concept ?;) | 04:20 |
| === hunger_t is now known as hunger | ||
| * smarter waves | 10:16 | |
| Riddell | morning | 10:20 |
| Riddell | vorian: thanks for doing alpha 3 testing, much appreciated | 10:20 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so, how do I join the 4.1 fun? | 10:21 |
| Riddell | looks like it's all done | 10:30 |
| smarter | Riddell: nop ;) | 10:31 |
| smarter | you still have to do l10n :P | 10:32 |
| Riddell | hmm, that kdebase-workspace build failure is nasty | 10:57 |
| supert0nes | you guys waiting for the 29th to release? | 11:05 |
| Riddell | yep | 11:06 |
| supert0nes | finally all those people using 4.0.5 can get something usable | 11:07 |
| === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato | ||
| Jucato | Riddell: "This release uses .kde instead of .kde4 for KDE settings so you will unable to easily downgrade to KDE 3" <--- "you will be unable to"? | 11:27 |
| Riddell | fixed, thanks | 11:29 |
| Nightrose | Riddell, ryanakca: the author of the news is "webmaster" in the rss feed - could be changed to something more friendly ;-) | 11:29 |
| smarter | anyone know how to shutdown KDE4 using dbus? | 11:56 |
| Riddell | poke ksmserver | 11:58 |
| smarter | Riddell: thanks, found it | 12:03 |
| Riddell | think I've got a workaround for kdebase-workspace | 12:04 |
| Riddell | smarter: edu and games are marked as done but not online, have you sent them to apachelogger? | 12:05 |
| ryanakca | Nightrose: We can't change that I don't think since it's our login name for Drupal, but I'll dig in to it for you, thanks :) | 12:14 |
| Nightrose | ryanakca: :) thanks | 12:14 |
| Riddell | I think you can | 12:15 |
| Riddell | under authoring information | 12:15 |
| Riddell | oh, hmm, "The username jriddell does not exist." guess not | 12:16 |
| seezer | is it about the latest kubuntu.org news? it links to the ubuntu alpha2 announcement ( https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-July/000451.html ) | 12:17 |
| smarter | Riddell: yes | 12:18 |
| seezer | should probably be https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-July/000459.html | 12:18 |
| smarter | Riddell: well, I told him where he could find them | 12:18 |
| Riddell | seezer: doh, sorry | 12:24 |
| nixternal | mornin' | 12:24 |
| Riddell | seezer: fixed | 12:24 |
| seezer | Riddell: don't be, just another bugreport :) | 12:24 |
| devfil | Riddell: uploaded the patch? | 12:29 |
| Nightrose | morning nixternal :) | 12:30 |
| Riddell | devfil: it looks like kdelibs5-dev already has no preparetips | 12:32 |
| devfil | Riddell: but kdelibs4-dev yes | 12:32 |
| Riddell | ah, hmm | 12:33 |
| Riddell | devfil: where's your patch again? | 12:33 |
| devfil | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30052/ | 12:33 |
| Riddell | devfil: groovy, uploaded | 12:37 |
| devfil | thanks | 12:38 |
| JontheEchidna | libs are called kdelibs5 in Hardy, right? | 12:40 |
| Riddell | Jucato: kde4libs are yes | 12:41 |
| JontheEchidna | k, cool | 12:41 |
| JontheEchidna | is kde4libs a beast to build? | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: have a look at the batcave | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | the mainpage holds a link to the backports | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | depends on the definition of beast ;-) | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: builds in less than an hour which makes it considerable unbeasty | 13:01 |
| JontheEchidna | cool | 13:01 |
| JontheEchidna | That means on my sucky computer it'll take 2.5 hours | 13:14 |
| JontheEchidna | oh well, at least it's not kdepim | 13:14 |
| JontheEchidna | Oh hey, that reminds me. I need to fix that typo in plasmoid-am4rok | 13:15 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: does plasmoid-am4rok need to go back through revu since it was just a typo/whitespace fix? | 13:18 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you shouldn't backport kdelibs yet | 13:23 |
| * apachelogger didn't upload the revised version | 13:23 | |
| JontheEchidna | what changed did you make? | 13:24 |
| JontheEchidna | *changes | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | everything | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | vorian packaged the wrong verison of KDE ;-) | 13:24 |
| JontheEchidna | you mean he got his tarballs from trunk?? | 13:25 |
| JontheEchidna | *trunk/? | 13:25 |
| apachelogger | aye | 13:25 |
| * JontheEchidna crtl +c's the build | 13:25 | |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: still no screenie in hardy :/ | 13:26 |
| * apachelogger is wondering in which konsole tab it is hiding | 13:26 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: we could all pinch the Riddell :P | 13:27 |
| Nightrose | haha let's do that then :P | 13:27 |
| vorian | apachelogger: hmm? | 13:27 |
| * Nightrose pokes Riddell | 13:27 | |
| apachelogger | vorian: JontheEchidna wanted to backport the libs | 13:27 |
| vorian | ah, I remember now .... | 13:28 |
| vorian | alllllrighy | 13:37 |
| vorian | off to the batcave | 13:37 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: no | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | holy barracuda | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | today is another party :S | 13:39 |
| Riddell | what's the party for? | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | brithday of someone I don't even know | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | oh boy, I am the cab driver | 13:40 |
| vorian | ha | 13:40 |
| Riddell | apachelogger, vorian: http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kdebase-workspace_4.1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc | 13:44 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: accepted screenie-qt | 13:45 |
| Nightrose | \o/ | 13:45 |
| Nightrose | thanks Riddell :) | 13:45 |
| * vorian looks at workspace | 13:45 | |
| apachelogger | hum | 13:46 |
| * apachelogger should have reassigned the workspace :P | 13:46 | |
| vorian | apachelogger: you finished it? | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | yeah ;-) | 13:46 |
| vorian | i was confused, last night you were speaking jibberish | 13:46 |
| vorian | :P | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | I was tired and drunk :P | 13:46 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: you did workspace? how did you get it to compile? | 13:47 |
| vorian | and I was trying to fix a grub issue from the alpha testing | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it never failed here | 13:47 |
| vorian | cmake version right? | 13:47 |
| Riddell | hmm, maybe it only fails with old kdelibs | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | yes | 13:47 |
| apachelogger | according to kde-core-devel this issue appears when the cmake versions differ | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | so compiling the new kdelibs should prevent the issue from appearing | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | revised kdelibs online | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ^ | 13:50 |
| JontheEchidna | kk | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | revised pimlibs online | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: should I use your version of workspace? | 13:51 |
| * apachelogger debdiffs | 13:51 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you forgot to add new files to the .installs ;-) | 13:56 |
| * apachelogger pbuilds the workspace stack to see whether the issue occurs | 13:59 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: which files? I added the new plasma headers | 14:15 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: the oxygen cursors and kdm theme I don't especially want to add | 14:15 |
| Riddell | kdebase is getting too much artwork, kdeartwork is being forgotten about | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the plasma headers don't exist in the version you uploaded | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | according to debdiff | 14:16 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hmm, so it doesn't | 14:20 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: well go with yours then | 14:20 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'll do kde-l10n | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I revised the script | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | sec | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/scripts/updatel10n.rb | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | exchanges kdelibs5 (>= 4.0.0) with (>= 4.1.0) | 14:21 |
| Riddell | gosh, you've thought of everything | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | not everything ... I forgot to mention that some debian/rules include version defintions :) | 14:22 |
| Riddell | version definitions? | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | for shlibs | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_libkwineffects1 := -V'libkwineffects1 (>= 4:4.0.82)' | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | in workspace for example | 14:23 |
| Riddell | oh right, was thinking of l10n | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | :) | 14:24 |
| JontheEchidna | kdelibs are at 5% \o/ | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: 9% :P | 14:35 |
| Jucato | ooooh race!!! | 14:35 |
| * Jucato gets popcorn | 14:35 | |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: lol, you're right | 14:35 |
| JontheEchidna | I am at 9% now | 14:35 |
| * apachelogger started when JontheEchidna had 5 :P | 14:35 | |
| JontheEchidna | ... | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: 21% | 14:40 |
| JontheEchidna | 12% | 14:41 |
| * apachelogger starts another compile job :P | 14:42 | |
| * davmor2 tries the latest live cd hesitantly | 14:43 | |
| vorian | apachelogger: what are you building? | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | vorian: libs and bindings | 14:45 |
| vorian | rock | 14:45 |
| vorian | ill get base | 14:45 |
| vorian | all your base belongs to us | 14:45 |
| vorian | eek | 14:46 |
| Riddell | davmor2: latest live CD? havn't we just done a release? | 14:47 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: yes but I don't think that 20080725 was covered very well so I'm checking it out for bugs :) | 14:47 |
| vorian | that hurts my feelings :'( | 14:48 |
| davmor2 | now sees why it failed | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | /me hands vorian a cookie | 14:50 |
| vorian | thanks /me | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: 55% | 14:50 |
| JontheEchidna | 17% | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | I think I am winning the new pc :P | 14:52 |
| davmor2 | vorian: sorry didn't realise it had failed just saw 1 test on each :) you did good :) honest | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | 20% | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | you should hear my fans right about now | 14:54 |
| vorian | davmor2: it took a while to recover from that failure :) | 14:54 |
| davmor2 | nothing new to me they had been failing all day :( | 14:55 |
| davmor2 | for the last 3 days | 14:55 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: pfft, you might have the better fans, but I got the better compilers | 14:56 |
| JontheEchidna | worse fans, these sound like jet engines | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | lol | 14:57 |
| JontheEchidna | and they drive the dog crazy in the middle of the night so I can't compile junk overnight | 14:57 |
| JontheEchidna | my dad usually shuts down my computer if it's making too much noise anyway | 14:57 |
| * apachelogger thinks JontheEchidna should get himself better fans ;-) | 14:58 | |
| apachelogger | talking about fans... we need some fans for the race I guess | 14:58 |
| JontheEchidna | it's the power supply fans that are making all the noise | 14:58 |
| * apachelogger pokes Nightrose | 14:58 | |
| Nightrose | haha | 14:58 |
| Nightrose | i knew you would poke me now | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | lol | 14:59 |
| Nightrose | i need to go shopping now thouhg | 14:59 |
| Nightrose | go go go guys | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | damn | 14:59 |
| davmor2 | vorian: mine just worked fine :P | 14:59 |
| vorian | davmor2: your ... ? | 14:59 |
| davmor2 | vorian: were you using kvm? | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: we probably should do a meeting again | 15:00 |
| vorian | no, just a fresh basic install in a 40gig partition | 15:00 |
| davmor2 | vorian: Installation of Kubuntu amd64bit | 15:00 |
| vorian | yeah | 15:01 |
| vorian | cool! | 15:01 |
| vorian | my issue was a grub bug | 15:01 |
| vorian | but by desktop setup is atypical | 15:01 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: we should. next wednesday? | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: sounds good to me | 15:02 |
| davmor2 | vorian: it's fine looks good and is functioning properly-ish | 15:02 |
| vorian | that's the imporant thing :) | 15:02 |
| Riddell | seele, nixternal, yuriy? wedneday at 22:00UTC? | 15:03 |
| vorian | yay! a meeting I can make :) | 15:03 |
| Riddell | Nightrose? | 15:03 |
| jjesse | i can make it as well | 15:04 |
| Nightrose | fine with me | 15:04 |
| seele | yeah, that´s good for me | 15:04 |
| Riddell | nixternal: please add to fridge | 15:04 |
| Jucato | 6am.. weee I can attend this one! :) | 15:04 |
| smarter | apachelogger: in kdegraphics' debian/rules there's DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_libokularcore1 := -V'libokularcore1 (>= 4:4.0.80)', could you update it? | 15:05 |
| Nightrose | <- gone | 15:05 |
| Jucato | bye Nightrose | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | smarter: add it to my todo in the batcave | 15:05 |
| * apachelogger needs to update the tarball anyway | 15:05 | |
| smarter | apachelogger: okay | 15:05 |
| smarter | apachelogger: 4.1.0 was not really 4.1.0? ;) | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | something like that | 15:06 |
| smarter | someone managed to build -workspace ? | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | sure | 15:08 |
| smarter | cool | 15:08 |
| smarter | how? | 15:08 |
| JontheEchidna | 31% | 15:10 |
| vorian | y | 15:13 |
| vorian | whoopsie | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | 78% | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | smarter: didn't fail for me at all | 15:13 |
| vorian | -10% | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | and Riddell created a patch | 15:13 |
| Riddell | I think it just needs 4.1 kdelibs | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | I am currently building the complete stack in pbuilder to check wheather the patch is necessary | 15:13 |
| smarter | ok, great :) | 15:15 |
| * smarter is waiting for kdelibs3 build to test his patches for Adept | 15:15 | |
| Riddell | smarter: what are those patches? | 15:15 |
| * JontheEchidna goes outside to exercise the dog | 15:15 | |
| Jucato | don't you mean kdelibs4? :) | 15:15 |
| smarter | Jucato: yep, but kdelibs4 sounds like kdelibs of kde4 :P | 15:16 |
| JontheEchidna | P.S. 36 | 15:16 |
| JontheEchidna | % | 15:16 |
| Jucato | smarter: let's thank Debian for that :) | 15:16 |
| smarter | Riddell: one to make the "you need to reboot" dialog work with kde4 | 15:17 |
| smarter | Riddell: another one to make Adept Installer displays more icons | 15:17 |
| smarter | I was working on app-install-data for Medibuntu and I discovered that adept-installed did not fetch icons when the Icon= field don't have an extension | 15:18 |
| smarter | *adept-installer | 15:18 |
| Jucato | hm... | 15:18 |
| smarter | (which is the correct way to do it, according to the freedesktop spec) | 15:19 |
| Jucato | not sure if it was fixed before, but does adept installer now Fetch Updates (apt-get update) whenever the repositories have been change (Software Sources button)? | 15:19 |
| smarter | I worked on that but I don't remember (: | 15:19 |
| smarter | I think it was tricky, because the update part is part of manager, not the lib | 15:20 |
| Jucato | I tried to work on it too :P | 15:20 |
| Jucato | too bad though, I gave up | 15:20 |
| smarter | I even implemented dcop calls in adept manager one day :P | 15:20 |
| Jucato | heheh | 15:21 |
| Jucato | and then we'll be moving to packagekit. ain't that great? :P | 15:22 |
| smarter | we'll see | 15:24 |
| smarter | but I think anything we'll be better than our overpatched adept :] | 15:24 |
| Riddell | packagekit needs kpolicykit to work | 15:25 |
| Riddell | smarter: have you looked at adept 3? | 15:25 |
| smarter | not for a long time | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: finished :P | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | now building workspace | 15:26 |
| smarter | latest release on mornfall's PPA is 4 months old :/ | 15:26 |
| smarter | by the way, where is he? | 15:26 |
| * davmor2 goes for a live 32bit test | 15:29 | |
| Riddell | smarter: on #kde-devel | 15:33 |
| Riddell | smarter: possibly his darcs or mercurial branch has something newer | 15:33 |
| Riddell | can't remember which revision control he uses now | 15:33 |
| smarter | ok, thanks | 15:34 |
| yuriy | Riddell: sounds good | 15:39 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: 54% | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: starting pimlibs now | 15:44 |
| JontheEchidna | cool | 15:44 |
| * apachelogger is wondering whether we can make the backport process more productive | 15:45 | |
| JontheEchidna | 61% | 15:48 |
| Jucato | Riddell: is the meeting on Wednesday final already? maybe we could add it to the topic? (please? :P) | 15:50 |
| Riddell | Jucato: go ahead | 15:50 |
| * Jucato doesn't trust kdepim to always work these days | 15:50 | |
| apachelogger | :) | 15:50 |
| === Jucato changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Teams | Test alpha 3 candidates CDs | Nex meeting: Wednesday 30 July, 22:00 UTC at #ubuntu-meeting | ||
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| nixternal | Riddell: that date and time works for me | 16:39 |
| nixternal | http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/113351 <- that totally sucks | 16:39 |
| Jucato | nixternal!!!! | 16:39 |
| JontheEchidna | 85% \o/ | 16:39 |
| nixternal | just rode into work | 16:39 |
| jjesse | long ride? | 16:39 |
| Jucato | jjesse!!!! | 16:40 |
| nixternal | jjesse: not really | 16:40 |
| nixternal | rode in on the new bike today | 16:40 |
| jjesse | Jucato: hello stranger | 16:40 |
| Jucato | nixternal: I hope your vehicle didn't literally ride *into* work... | 16:40 |
| Jucato | jjesse: hahah! true dat :P | 16:40 |
| nixternal | ya, that would hurt | 16:40 |
| nixternal | ;p | 16:40 |
| Jucato | hahaha well since it's a bike... | 16:40 |
| jjesse | super busy w/ kid and work so haven't been on much | 16:40 |
| nixternal | hehe, I know the busy feeling | 16:41 |
| Jucato | do you know the "should be busy but don't know where my time has gone to" feeling? | 16:42 |
| Jucato | I mentioned the other day that I'll be doing a talk about contributing to KDE and Kubuntu next month for our LoCo. I need to get updated on our KDE 4 plans for Intrepid (thank goodness there will be a meeting next week :P) | 16:43 |
| nixternal | hehe, no doubt | 16:45 |
| nixternal | I am planning to deliver big news at our next meeting | 16:45 |
| jjesse | i actually have never installed any alphas of intrepid | 16:45 |
| jjesse | this is quite unusual for a dev cylce for me | 16:46 |
| nixternal | same here | 16:46 |
| Jucato | for nixternal specially! | 16:46 |
| vorian | all my belongs to the base | 17:16 |
| Jucato | kdebase, that is :) | 17:17 |
| vorian | haha | 17:17 |
| vorian | i love elmo's world | 17:19 |
| * JontheEchidna <3's debuild -nc | 17:30 | |
| vorian | <3 food | 17:33 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I think kde4libs should ftbfs | 17:34 |
| JontheEchidna | usr/share/kde4/accept-languages.codes should be usr/etc/kde4/accept-languages.codes | 17:35 |
| smarter | usr/etc? | 17:35 |
| JontheEchidna | that's what make -f debian/rules list-missing said | 17:36 |
| JontheEchidna | /usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4/accept-languages.codes | 17:36 |
| JontheEchidna | ^that's for hardy | 17:36 |
| smarter | ah :) | 17:36 |
| vorian | shouldn't you add it JontheEchidna? | 17:36 |
| JontheEchidna | vorian: it also said that usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/accept-languages.codes didn't exist | 17:37 |
| vorian | add them in the correct .install files | 17:37 |
| JontheEchidna | it ftbfs when it tried to cp usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/accept-languages.codes | 17:38 |
| JontheEchidna | and list-missing said that usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4/accept-languages.codes was missing | 17:38 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: run this | 17:39 |
| vorian | dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing | 17:39 |
| vorian | and tell me what it shows | 17:39 |
| * JontheEchidna is debuild -nc at the moment | 17:39 | |
| vorian | well, never mind then | 17:39 |
| vorian | :P | 17:39 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 17:39 |
| JontheEchidna | cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/lib/qt4/plugins/designer/kdewidgets.so': No such file or directory | 17:41 |
| JontheEchidna | (I had fixed the accept-languages one | 17:41 |
| JontheEchidna | ) | 17:41 |
| vorian | ok, remove that line, save it, then rerun dh_install -sourcedir | 17:41 |
| vorian | keep doing that until you have to remove no more lines | 17:42 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: all kde-l10n compiled and looking good | 17:49 |
| * JontheEchidna can't find the file in the .install files... | 17:51 | |
| vorian | noooooooo | 17:53 |
| vorian | argh | 17:53 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: cool ... btw, workspace is compiling fine with 4.1.0 kdelibs | 17:53 |
| vorian | apachelogger: base and base-runtime for hardy are all yours | 18:02 |
| vorian | (as in now in your inbox) | 18:02 |
| * apachelogger hands vorian a cookie and uploads -workspace | 18:02 | |
| vorian | i'll almost done with pimlibs | 18:02 |
| vorian | then i'll have to go to work | 18:03 |
| * apachelogger should go showering for the partynighty(tm) | 18:03 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: the backports howto seems a bit strange | 18:09 |
| JontheEchidna | it probably is | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | why would one grab the .98 package? | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | Get orig.tar.gz, .dsc, and diff.gz from Launchpad (e.g. https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwor | 18:10 |
| * apachelogger edits | 18:10 | |
| vorian | apachelogger: kdepimlibs sent | 18:10 |
| JontheEchidna | oh yeah, magic directory | 18:10 |
| JontheEchidna | oh wait | 18:11 |
| JontheEchidna | nevermind | 18:11 |
| JontheEchidna | I was thinking doing backports + new upstreams | 18:11 |
| JontheEchidna | since that's what I had been doing | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | backporting for hardy is awkward anyway | 18:12 |
| JontheEchidna | confounded /usr/lib/kde4 | 18:12 |
| * apachelogger doesn't even know which approach to describe | 18:12 | |
| apachelogger | vorian: how are you doing it? | 18:12 |
| JontheEchidna | if it compiles, ship it! | 18:12 |
| vorian | well | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that is a very very very very bad technique | 18:12 |
| vorian | i'm doing it the same way i did in hardy | 18:12 |
| vorian | i take the tarball | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | ok | 18:13 |
| vorian | apt-get source the curversion | 18:13 |
| JontheEchidna | wrestle with dh_install | 18:13 |
| vorian | copy the debian dir over to the new package | 18:13 |
| vorian | etc ... | 18:13 |
| vorian | it's much safer that way IMO | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | that actually might be the most sensable approach | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | vorian: yeah, I like it | 18:13 |
| * apachelogger documents | 18:13 | |
| vorian | :) | 18:13 |
| vorian | sorry I can't do any more today | 18:14 |
| vorian | have fun everyone :) | 18:14 |
| Riddell | yes, hardy backports are best done with the current hardy ppa version | 18:15 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ok if I start uploading the packages that come before kdelibs? | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think I changed something in akonadi today | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | I'll reupload the diff and dscs | 18:17 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, I think I've fixed all the FTBFS's from moved files, now I have to get the new locations into the .install files and kde4libs~hardy will be done | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ready for upload :) | 18:18 |
| JontheEchidna | dh_install takes a lot longer when it doesn't fail... heh | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: updated the howto | 18:24 |
| Riddell | I wonder if automoc can be synced from debian | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | probably, I didn't see any thing that differs | 18:25 |
| * apachelogger needs to go showering | 18:25 | |
| Riddell | hot day, I've had two showers already | 18:28 |
| Nightrose | re | 18:32 |
| Jucato | mi? | 18:32 |
| yuriy | ryanakca: gutsy proposals? pun intended? | 18:46 |
| JontheEchidna | How do I know where to place the files listed in list-missing? | 18:48 |
| JontheEchidna | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30336/ | 18:49 |
| JontheEchidna | usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/kspell_aspell.so should probably go to kdelibs5 | 18:50 |
| ryanakca | yuriy: nah | 18:52 |
| JontheEchidna | apt-file search to the rescue | 18:52 |
| ryanakca | yuriy: Gutsy Gibbon crossed my mind, but I could've used edgy if you would've prefered :P | 18:52 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: look at where the intrepid packages put them | 18:57 |
| Riddell | some of those don't need to be installed | 18:57 |
| JontheEchidna | Like the manpages | 18:57 |
| JontheEchidna | since the .manpage file takes care of that | 18:57 |
| JontheEchidna | and that all_lanugages file | 18:57 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, it should all be good now. Let's hope debuild agrees | 18:58 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: sent kde4libs 4.1.0 hardy | 19:26 |
| Nightrose | ryanakca: in case i havn't said so yet: great work on the website :) | 19:31 |
| ryanakca | Nightrose: thanks :) Thank Matt Nuzum too, it's all based on his work :) | 19:33 |
| smarter | kdelibs4c2a: Depends: libavahi-qt3 (>= 0.6.16) which is a virtual package. | 19:40 |
| smarter | kdelibs4c2a: Depends: libavahi-qt3 (>= 0.6.16) which is a virtual package. | 19:40 |
| smarter | oops | 19:40 |
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| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: oops, forgot to change the build-depend packages required versions back to 4.1.0 | 19:47 |
| === mzungu_ is now known as mzungu | ||
| bdgraue | is there any chance to get intrpid run in hardy virtualbox? | 19:52 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: resent | 19:52 |
| bdgraue | s/intrpid/intrepid | 19:52 |
| Riddell | bdgraue: #ubuntu-testers may know about things like that | 19:56 |
| bdgraue | thx Riddell | 19:57 |
| bdgraue | there is no channel named #ubuntu-testers :( | 19:57 |
| bdgraue | do i have to go to #ubuntu+1? | 19:58 |
| Riddell | #ubuntu-testing ? | 19:58 |
| bdgraue | #ubuntu-testing exists :D | 19:58 |
| Riddell | vorian: no backports of phonon, akonadi, soprano? | 19:59 |
| Riddell | I'd expect they'd be needed | 19:59 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: are you in e.v. yet? | 20:13 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: he is not | 20:14 |
| Nightrose | but should be... ;-) | 20:15 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: the current thread seems like a good point to pimp kde nightly | 20:19 |
| Nightrose | indeed | 20:20 |
| Nightrose | but he would still refuse to spend the time to set up the maschine i guess | 20:21 |
| Nightrose | which i can understand | 20:21 |
| Nightrose | anyway - worth mentioning it | 20:21 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: are you going to pimp neon on the eV list or should I? ;-) | 20:32 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: go ahead if you want, I'm looking at planetkde bits | 20:33 |
| Nightrose | ok | 20:33 |
| yuriy | to whom it may concern: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-scripts_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/preparetips', which is also in package kdelibs4-dev | 20:48 |
| Riddell | yuriy: intrepid? | 20:49 |
| yuriy | Riddell: yes | 20:49 |
| Riddell | yuriy: what version of kdelibs4-dev? | 20:49 |
| yuriy | Riddell: hmm... kdelibs4-dev_3.5.9.dfsg.1-4ubuntu3_i386 | 20:51 |
| devfil_ | yuriy: already fixed in kdelibs4-dev_3.5.9.dfsg.1-4ubuntu4 | 20:51 |
| Riddell | it should have kdesdk-scripts updated with a Replaces too | 20:51 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: it is the problem that I've fixed | 20:52 |
| yuriy | devfil_: ok, thanks! | 20:53 |
| Riddell | devfil_: right, but it needs kdesdk-scripts with a Replaces too | 20:53 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: kdesdk-scripts is a dependency of kdelibs4-dev | 20:53 |
| devfil_ | I've removed preparetips from kdelibs4-dev | 20:54 |
| devfil_ | so the bug is fixed | 20:54 |
| Riddell | devfil_: not quite, as with yuriy apt can update kdesdk-scripts without updating kdelibs4-dev | 20:54 |
| Riddell | kdesdk-scripts should have Replaces: kdelibs4-dev (<< 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-4ubuntu4) | 20:55 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: ah ok, let me make it | 20:56 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30373/ | 21:03 |
| hunger | Riddell: Thanks for cmake-gui and ccmake! | 21:05 |
| Riddell | hunger: thanks for poking us | 21:05 |
| Riddell | devfil_: groovy, uploading | 21:06 |
| devfil_ | thanks | 21:06 |
| hunger | Riddell: May I poke you about kdelibs4? That needs a rebuild for the libcupsys->libcups transition. | 21:12 |
| Riddell | it does? | 21:13 |
| * hunger guesses that this is already in the works though. | 21:13 | |
| Riddell | err, yes, that's right, we're just QAing it now :) | 21:13 |
| Riddell | maybe devfil_ would volunteer? | 21:13 |
| hunger | It is the only kde thing that breaks when removing libcupsys2:-) | 21:14 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: for the rebuild? | 21:14 |
| devfil_ | ok | 21:15 |
| * hunger thinks kubuntu/intrepid is actually usable. Good work, guys. | 21:15 | |
| Riddell | thanks devfil_, you're the best | 21:15 |
| Riddell | thanks hunger :) | 21:15 |
| hunger | I have to admit that it works better than my svn builds;-) | 21:16 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: I need only to change libcupsys2-dev with libcups2-dev, right? | 21:20 |
| Riddell | devfil_: yes, and recompile to make sure it picks up the right dependency for kdelibs4c2a | 21:20 |
| devfil_ | ok | 21:20 |
| yuriy | gtk apps look so much better without any widget styling whatsoever :D | 21:36 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: uploaded to my ppa | 21:41 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: ach weel, worth a shot :) | 21:59 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: ? | 22:00 |
| Nightrose | ah | 22:00 |
| Nightrose | yea ;-) | 22:00 |
| Nightrose | and probably others will read it | 22:00 |
| Nightrose | and they might find it useful | 22:00 |
| Riddell | pimpage :) | 22:00 |
| Nightrose | like Wade | 22:00 |
| Nightrose | i assume way too few have heard about it yet | 22:01 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| ScottK | Riddell: Would you have time for a small archive-admin task? In Bug #248716, both sauerbraten and sauerbraten data were supposed to be backported, but the data package didn't get done, so now it's uninstallable ... | 22:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 248716 in hardy-backports "Please backport sauerbraten 0.0.20080620.dfsg-1 and sauerbraten-data 0.0.20080620-1 to hardy" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/248716 | 22:36 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ok | 22:38 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: kdelibs build fine as you can see on my ppa and this is the debdiff: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30401/ | 22:38 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. Game players are very impatient about this stuff. I wouldn't want to leave them without their data over the weekend ... ;-) | 22:38 |
| Riddell | devfil_: and now it depends on libcups? | 22:39 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: I need that binaries appear on my repo so I can check for dep | 22:41 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: I need to check kdelibs4c2a package, right? | 22:42 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: kdelibs4c2a depends on libcups2 (>= 1.3.7) | 22:45 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: I've discovered another error | 22:47 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: kdelibs4c2a depends on libavahi-qt3 but he package name is libavahi-qt3-1 | 22:47 |
| devfil_ | s/he/the/ | 22:47 |
| Riddell | devfil_: in your ppa? | 22:48 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: yes, maybe in the package in main | 22:48 |
| Riddell | ScottK: that package is 298M! | 22:48 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 22:49 |
| ScottK | As game data packages go it's pretty small. | 22:49 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: also the package in main | 22:50 |
| devfil_ | avahi should be fixed | 22:51 |
| Riddell | this is most peculiar | 22:52 |
| devfil_ | ${shlibs:Depends} adds it | 22:52 |
| Riddell | cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/libavahi-qt3-1.shlibs | 22:56 |
| Riddell | libavahi-qt3 1 libavahi-qt3-1 (>= 0.6.16) | 22:56 |
| Riddell | that's fine | 22:56 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: it should be fixed in the package | 22:57 |
| Riddell | which package? | 22:58 |
| devfil_ | kdelibs4c2a | 22:58 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 22:59 |
| Riddell | can't imagine what's wrong with kdelibs4c2a | 23:00 |
| Riddell | and avahi seems fine as I just pasted | 23:00 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: DEB_SHLIBDEPS_INCLUDE = $(foreach p,$(PACKAGES_WITH_LIBS),debian/$(p)/usr/lib) | 23:00 |
| devfil_ | maybe we can adjust here | 23:00 |
| Riddell | I don't see that | 23:01 |
| Riddell | but anyway i'd rather track down what the actual problem is | 23:01 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: look at 27_kdnssd_avahi patch | 23:05 |
| devfil_ | +PKG_CHECK_MODULES( AVAHI, [ avahi-qt3 >= 0.4 , avahi-client >= 0.4 ]) | 23:05 |
| devfil_ | maybe should be | 23:05 |
| devfil_ | +PKG_CHECK_MODULES( AVAHI, [ avahi-qt3-1 >= 0.4 , avahi-client >= 0.4 ]) | 23:05 |
| Riddell | no, that's looking for the name of the library file, which is avahi-qt3 (libavahi-qt3.so) | 23:07 |
| devfil_ | ah ok | 23:07 |
| Riddell | it's only the package which has the -1 on the end | 23:07 |
| Riddell | but shlibs knows that it does | 23:07 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: is possible to make a virtual package for -1? | 23:08 |
| * JontheEchidna boots into the unspeakable OS | 23:09 | |
| Riddell | devfil_: sure but it's not really finding the root of the problem | 23:10 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: but it is a workaround | 23:11 |
| devfil_ | we don't know if kdelibs4c2a is the only package with this problem | 23:11 |
| Riddell | try recomiling mateedit maybe, it also uses libavahi-qt3-1 | 23:12 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 23:15 |
| devfil_ | kdelibs4c2a: Depends: libavahi-qt3 (>= 0.6.16) which is a virtual package. | 23:15 |
| Riddell | devfil_: that's mateedit? | 23:18 |
| devfil_ | ehm yes | 23:18 |
| devfil_ | it cannot be builded with this problem | 23:18 |
| Riddell | you need an old kdelibs4c2a | 23:19 |
| Riddell | wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.9.dfsg.1-4ubuntu3_i386.deb | 23:19 |
| devfil_ | ok | 23:19 |
| Riddell | Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9), libacl1 (>= 2.2.11-1), libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.18), libattr1 (>= 2.4.41-1), libaudio2, libavahi-client3 (>= 0.6.16), libavahi-common3 (>= 0.6.16), libavahi-qt3 (>= 0.6.16) | 23:22 |
| Riddell | I don't understand it | 23:22 |
| devfil_ | I don't too | 23:23 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: same dep also in mateedit | 23:39 |
| devfil_ | without -1 | 23:39 |
| Riddell | is crazy | 23:39 |
| devfil_ | yes | 23:40 |
| Notch-1 | hi all | 23:40 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: we need a workaround while we fix it properly | 23:40 |
| Notch-1 | may i ask a little question' | 23:41 |
| Notch-1 | ? | 23:41 |
| devfil_ | Notch-1: you already asked a question :) | 23:41 |
| Notch-1 | hehe | 23:42 |
| Notch-1 | i know but you seem in other conversation... | 23:43 |
| Notch-1 | anyway... i noticed that with "kdialog --progressbar test 0" i can create a "scanning" progressbar, but to make it scan i have to setProgress many time.... | 23:43 |
| Notch-1 | Is there a way to make it scan by itself? | 23:43 |
| Riddell | Notch-1: #kde | 23:45 |
| Notch-1 | i know but nobody never answer on #kde :D | 23:45 |
| Riddell | probably nobody knows | 23:47 |
| Notch-1 | never got answers... on anything... | 23:48 |
| devfil_ | Riddell: avahi is ridiculous | 23:51 |
| devfil_ | is impossible | 23:51 |
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