[00:20] even with kdelibs installed from svn, still get this error on kdebase-workspace [00:20] /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgeneral [00:25] vorian: kdepimlibs and phonon are build-deps as well, aren't they? [00:27] vorian: http://www.nabble.com/Re:-Build-error-linking--lgeneral-p15134323.html [00:31] * apachelogger pokes Xand3r_laptop [00:32] kdepimlibs shouldn't be a dep of kdebase* anymore I think [00:32] apachelogger: ? [00:32] * apachelogger shrugg0rs [00:32] Xand3r: shouldn't you be in bed or something? [00:33] apachelogger: -.- [00:33] * apachelogger dances to moby's last night [00:34] apachelogger: have you an idea how i can share files vie the network? [00:34] somthing like nfs [00:34] with a gui [00:34] but working [00:34] nfs [00:35] smb [00:35] ssh [00:35] irc [00:35] trt [00:35] usb [00:35] eth [00:35] wfi [00:35] stuff like that [00:35] W: klinkstatus-kde4: unusual-interpreter ./usr/share/kde4/apps/klinkstatus/scripts/statistics.rb #!kross [00:36] ok [00:36] now [00:36] I was almost expecting to find "wtf" at the end of that list :) [00:36] seriously [00:36] someone burn lintian [00:36] that thing is a witch [00:36] always manges to make me grumpy with stupid warnings [00:38] * Xand3r is listening to Burn The Witch by Queens of the Stone Age on Lullabies To Paralyze [Amarok] [00:38] ^^ [01:15] kdepim is taking forever to build! [01:15] tell me about it ;-) [01:15] but [01:15] worst package is kdebindings [01:15] 4.4 MiB [01:15] yeah, i'm glad you did that first [01:15] but takes ~1 hour to build [01:15] that is pure magic to me [01:16] haha [01:16] so, with the distro cmake error on kdebase-workspace... [01:16] what is the fix? [01:16] as for a -us -uc build [01:17] hm [01:17] vorian: throw over the debian directory [01:17] I will digg into it [01:20] kk [01:20] hum [01:20] hell [01:20] dpkg: error processing kdelibs5-data_4.1.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--install): [01:20] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/makekdewidgets.1.gz', which is also in package kdelibs5-dev [01:22] * apachelogger sings - there we build again [01:23] you have mail [01:24] <3 mail [01:29] vorian: could take some time, bindings is eating all performance :S [01:29] noooo [01:29] vorian: go start backporting :P [01:30] let me finish pim first [01:30] ok [01:37] ug [01:37] for [01:37] e [01:37] ver === vore is now known as erov [01:49] vorian: at what percentage did the build error occur? [01:49] 9% [01:49] [ 30%] Generating kscreensaveradaptor.cpp, kscreensaveradaptor.h [01:49] YIPPEEE! [01:49] my system is borked! [01:50] ^_^ [01:50] maybe mine is b0rked ;-) [01:50] haha [01:50] well, we will see what the buildds think [01:50] right [01:54] hm [01:54] funky build error with bindings though :D [01:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/30150/ [01:55] oh, newish files [01:58] 90% [02:06] vorian: build-dependency bump of kdebase was incomplete [02:06] kdepimlibs5-dev (>= 4:4.1.0), libphonon-dev (>= 4:4.0.80), libplasma-dev (>= 4:4.0.98), [02:07] i seeeeee [02:09] pim failed again [02:09] bleh [02:19] apachelogger: would it make sense that korn.install would be empty? [02:19] vorian: was it before? [02:19] there were 10 or so lines [02:20] vorian: did korn got removed? [02:20] * apachelogger should go to bed [02:20] no [02:20] it did not get removed [02:20] staying up that late can't be good [02:20] lol [02:20] vorian: so why should it be empty now? [02:21] well, it had no files to install [02:21] remaining [02:21] Oo [02:21] I don't get it [02:21] vorian: it doesn't install any files anymore? [02:22] i ran the dh_install --sorcedir bla bla [02:22] I kept removing missing files [02:23] then, on the list of files in debian/tmp, there were no files [02:23] confused yet :P [02:23] +1 [02:23] why would they not remove it but deactivate any installation? [02:24] i dunno [02:25] http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=835437 [02:25] f-that [02:25] my system is exploding [02:26] vorian: comment out the portions in debian/control and ask master riddell to remove the binary package from the archives [02:26] roger that [02:26] apachelogger: remove the related debian korn.* files as well? [02:26] nope [02:27] they will not get used anyway without the control entry [02:27] ah, gotche [02:30] 3:30am [02:30] * apachelogger begins wonder what exactly the point of going to bed is [02:30] oh right, not loosing communication capabilities [02:30] is that actually a word [02:30] Like that's a good thing. [02:49] d'oh [02:49] * apachelogger has networkmanager 7 installed [02:49] -.- [03:11] I hate pim atm === |Aryn| is now known as aRyn [04:11] * skreechmiester loves vorian for hating pim [04:11] <3 [04:14] if you hate kopete, he will love you even more :) [04:15] * ScottK-laptop has no trouble with that one. [04:15] +1 [04:17] * skreechmiester h8 [04:20] Jucato: Saw the new plasmoid concept ?;) === hunger_t is now known as hunger [10:16] * smarter waves [10:20] morning [10:20] vorian: thanks for doing alpha 3 testing, much appreciated [10:21] apachelogger: so, how do I join the 4.1 fun? [10:30] looks like it's all done [10:31] Riddell: nop ;) [10:32] you still have to do l10n :P [10:57] hmm, that kdebase-workspace build failure is nasty [11:05] you guys waiting for the 29th to release? [11:06] yep [11:07] finally all those people using 4.0.5 can get something usable === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [11:27] Riddell: "This release uses .kde instead of .kde4 for KDE settings so you will unable to easily downgrade to KDE 3" <--- "you will be unable to"? [11:29] fixed, thanks [11:29] Riddell, ryanakca: the author of the news is "webmaster" in the rss feed - could be changed to something more friendly ;-) [11:56] anyone know how to shutdown KDE4 using dbus? [11:58] poke ksmserver [12:03] Riddell: thanks, found it [12:04] think I've got a workaround for kdebase-workspace [12:05] smarter: edu and games are marked as done but not online, have you sent them to apachelogger? [12:14] Nightrose: We can't change that I don't think since it's our login name for Drupal, but I'll dig in to it for you, thanks :) [12:14] ryanakca: :) thanks [12:15] I think you can [12:15] under authoring information [12:16] oh, hmm, "The username jriddell does not exist." guess not [12:17] is it about the latest kubuntu.org news? it links to the ubuntu alpha2 announcement ( https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-July/000451.html ) [12:18] Riddell: yes [12:18] should probably be https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-July/000459.html [12:18] Riddell: well, I told him where he could find them [12:24] seezer: doh, sorry [12:24] mornin' [12:24] seezer: fixed [12:24] Riddell: don't be, just another bugreport :) [12:29] Riddell: uploaded the patch? [12:30] morning nixternal :) [12:32] devfil: it looks like kdelibs5-dev already has no preparetips [12:32] Riddell: but kdelibs4-dev yes [12:33] ah, hmm [12:33] devfil: where's your patch again? [12:33] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30052/ [12:37] devfil: groovy, uploaded [12:38] thanks [12:40] libs are called kdelibs5 in Hardy, right? [12:41] Jucato: kde4libs are yes [12:41] k, cool [12:59] is kde4libs a beast to build? [12:59] Riddell: have a look at the batcave [12:59] the mainpage holds a link to the backports [13:01] depends on the definition of beast ;-) [13:01] JontheEchidna: builds in less than an hour which makes it considerable unbeasty [13:01] cool [13:14] That means on my sucky computer it'll take 2.5 hours [13:14] oh well, at least it's not kdepim [13:15] Oh hey, that reminds me. I need to fix that typo in plasmoid-am4rok [13:18] Riddell: does plasmoid-am4rok need to go back through revu since it was just a typo/whitespace fix? [13:23] JontheEchidna: you shouldn't backport kdelibs yet [13:23] * apachelogger didn't upload the revised version [13:24] what changed did you make? [13:24] *changes [13:24] everything [13:24] vorian packaged the wrong verison of KDE ;-) [13:25] you mean he got his tarballs from trunk?? [13:25] *trunk/? [13:25] aye [13:25] * JontheEchidna crtl +c's the build [13:26] apachelogger: still no screenie in hardy :/ [13:26] * apachelogger is wondering in which konsole tab it is hiding [13:27] Nightrose: we could all pinch the Riddell :P [13:27] haha let's do that then :P [13:27] apachelogger: hmm? [13:27] * Nightrose pokes Riddell [13:27] vorian: JontheEchidna wanted to backport the libs [13:28] ah, I remember now .... [13:37] alllllrighy [13:37] off to the batcave [13:38] JontheEchidna: no [13:39] holy barracuda [13:39] today is another party :S [13:40] what's the party for? [13:40] brithday of someone I don't even know [13:40] oh boy, I am the cab driver [13:40] ha [13:44] apachelogger, vorian: http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kdebase-workspace_4.1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc [13:45] Nightrose: accepted screenie-qt [13:45] \o/ [13:45] thanks Riddell :) [13:45] * vorian looks at workspace [13:46] hum [13:46] * apachelogger should have reassigned the workspace :P [13:46] apachelogger: you finished it? [13:46] yeah ;-) [13:46] i was confused, last night you were speaking jibberish [13:46] :P [13:46] I was tired and drunk :P [13:47] apachelogger: you did workspace? how did you get it to compile? [13:47] and I was trying to fix a grub issue from the alpha testing [13:47] Riddell: it never failed here [13:47] cmake version right? [13:47] hmm, maybe it only fails with old kdelibs [13:47] yes [13:48] according to kde-core-devel this issue appears when the cmake versions differ [13:48] so compiling the new kdelibs should prevent the issue from appearing [13:50] revised kdelibs online [13:50] JontheEchidna: ^ [13:50] kk [13:50] revised pimlibs online [13:51] Riddell: should I use your version of workspace? [13:51] * apachelogger debdiffs [13:56] Riddell: you forgot to add new files to the .installs ;-) [13:59] * apachelogger pbuilds the workspace stack to see whether the issue occurs [14:15] apachelogger: which files? I added the new plasma headers [14:15] apachelogger: the oxygen cursors and kdm theme I don't especially want to add [14:15] kdebase is getting too much artwork, kdeartwork is being forgotten about [14:16] Riddell: the plasma headers don't exist in the version you uploaded [14:16] according to debdiff [14:20] apachelogger: hmm, so it doesn't [14:20] apachelogger: well go with yours then [14:20] apachelogger: I'll do kde-l10n [14:20] Riddell: I revised the script [14:20] sec [14:20] Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/scripts/updatel10n.rb [14:21] exchanges kdelibs5 (>= 4.0.0) with (>= 4.1.0) [14:21] gosh, you've thought of everything [14:22] not everything ... I forgot to mention that some debian/rules include version defintions :) [14:23] version definitions? [14:23] for shlibs [14:23] Riddell: DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_libkwineffects1 := -V'libkwineffects1 (>= 4:4.0.82)' [14:23] in workspace for example [14:24] oh right, was thinking of l10n [14:24] :) [14:28] kdelibs are at 5% \o/ [14:35] JontheEchidna: 9% :P [14:35] ooooh race!!! [14:35] * Jucato gets popcorn [14:35] apachelogger: lol, you're right [14:35] I am at 9% now [14:35] * apachelogger started when JontheEchidna had 5 :P [14:36] ... [14:40] JontheEchidna: 21% [14:41] 12% [14:42] * apachelogger starts another compile job :P [14:43] * davmor2 tries the latest live cd hesitantly [14:45] apachelogger: what are you building? [14:45] vorian: libs and bindings [14:45] rock [14:45] ill get base [14:45] all your base belongs to us [14:46] eek [14:47] davmor2: latest live CD? havn't we just done a release? [14:47] Riddell: yes but I don't think that 20080725 was covered very well so I'm checking it out for bugs :) [14:48] that hurts my feelings :'( [14:49] now sees why it failed [14:50] /me hands vorian a cookie [14:50] thanks /me [14:50] JontheEchidna: 55% [14:51] 17% [14:52] I think I am winning the new pc :P [14:54] vorian: sorry didn't realise it had failed just saw 1 test on each :) you did good :) honest [14:54] 20% [14:54] you should hear my fans right about now [14:54] davmor2: it took a while to recover from that failure :) [14:55] nothing new to me they had been failing all day :( [14:55] for the last 3 days [14:56] JontheEchidna: pfft, you might have the better fans, but I got the better compilers [14:56] worse fans, these sound like jet engines [14:57] lol [14:57] and they drive the dog crazy in the middle of the night so I can't compile junk overnight [14:57] my dad usually shuts down my computer if it's making too much noise anyway [14:58] * apachelogger thinks JontheEchidna should get himself better fans ;-) [14:58] talking about fans... we need some fans for the race I guess [14:58] it's the power supply fans that are making all the noise [14:58] * apachelogger pokes Nightrose [14:58] haha [14:59] i knew you would poke me now [14:59] lol [14:59] i need to go shopping now thouhg [14:59] go go go guys [14:59] damn [14:59] vorian: mine just worked fine :P [14:59] davmor2: your ... ? [14:59] vorian: were you using kvm? [15:00] Riddell: we probably should do a meeting again [15:00] no, just a fresh basic install in a 40gig partition [15:00] vorian: Installation of Kubuntu amd64bit [15:01] yeah [15:01] cool! [15:01] my issue was a grub bug [15:01] but by desktop setup is atypical [15:02] apachelogger: we should. next wednesday? [15:02] Riddell: sounds good to me [15:02] vorian: it's fine looks good and is functioning properly-ish [15:02] that's the imporant thing :) [15:03] seele, nixternal, yuriy? wedneday at 22:00UTC? [15:03] yay! a meeting I can make :) [15:03] Nightrose? [15:04] i can make it as well [15:04] fine with me [15:04] yeah, that´s good for me [15:04] nixternal: please add to fridge [15:04] 6am.. weee I can attend this one! :) [15:05] apachelogger: in kdegraphics' debian/rules there's DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_libokularcore1 := -V'libokularcore1 (>= 4:4.0.80)', could you update it? [15:05] <- gone [15:05] bye Nightrose [15:05] smarter: add it to my todo in the batcave [15:05] * apachelogger needs to update the tarball anyway [15:05] apachelogger: okay [15:06] apachelogger: 4.1.0 was not really 4.1.0? ;) [15:06] something like that [15:08] someone managed to build -workspace ? [15:08] sure [15:08] cool [15:08] how? [15:10] 31% [15:13] y [15:13] whoopsie [15:13] 78% [15:13] smarter: didn't fail for me at all [15:13] -10% [15:13] and Riddell created a patch [15:13] I think it just needs 4.1 kdelibs [15:13] I am currently building the complete stack in pbuilder to check wheather the patch is necessary [15:15] ok, great :) [15:15] * smarter is waiting for kdelibs3 build to test his patches for Adept [15:15] smarter: what are those patches? [15:15] * JontheEchidna goes outside to exercise the dog [15:15] don't you mean kdelibs4? :) [15:16] Jucato: yep, but kdelibs4 sounds like kdelibs of kde4 :P [15:16] P.S. 36 [15:16] % [15:16] smarter: let's thank Debian for that :) [15:17] Riddell: one to make the "you need to reboot" dialog work with kde4 [15:17] Riddell: another one to make Adept Installer displays more icons [15:18] I was working on app-install-data for Medibuntu and I discovered that adept-installed did not fetch icons when the Icon= field don't have an extension [15:18] *adept-installer [15:18] hm... [15:19] (which is the correct way to do it, according to the freedesktop spec) [15:19] not sure if it was fixed before, but does adept installer now Fetch Updates (apt-get update) whenever the repositories have been change (Software Sources button)? [15:19] I worked on that but I don't remember (: [15:20] I think it was tricky, because the update part is part of manager, not the lib [15:20] I tried to work on it too :P [15:20] too bad though, I gave up [15:20] I even implemented dcop calls in adept manager one day :P [15:21] heheh [15:22] and then we'll be moving to packagekit. ain't that great? :P [15:24] we'll see [15:24] but I think anything we'll be better than our overpatched adept :] [15:25] packagekit needs kpolicykit to work [15:25] smarter: have you looked at adept 3? [15:25] not for a long time [15:25] JontheEchidna: finished :P [15:26] now building workspace [15:26] latest release on mornfall's PPA is 4 months old :/ [15:26] by the way, where is he? [15:29] * davmor2 goes for a live 32bit test [15:33] smarter: on #kde-devel [15:33] smarter: possibly his darcs or mercurial branch has something newer [15:33] can't remember which revision control he uses now [15:34] ok, thanks [15:39] Riddell: sounds good [15:39] apachelogger: 54% [15:44] JontheEchidna: starting pimlibs now [15:44] cool [15:45] * apachelogger is wondering whether we can make the backport process more productive [15:48] 61% [15:50] Riddell: is the meeting on Wednesday final already? maybe we could add it to the topic? (please? :P) [15:50] Jucato: go ahead [15:50] * Jucato doesn't trust kdepim to always work these days [15:50] :) === Jucato changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Teams | Test alpha 3 candidates CDs | Nex meeting: Wednesday 30 July, 22:00 UTC at #ubuntu-meeting === stdin_ is now known as stdin [16:39] Riddell: that date and time works for me [16:39] http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/113351 <- that totally sucks [16:39] nixternal!!!! [16:39] 85% \o/ [16:39] just rode into work [16:39] long ride? [16:40] jjesse!!!! [16:40] jjesse: not really [16:40] rode in on the new bike today [16:40] Jucato: hello stranger [16:40] nixternal: I hope your vehicle didn't literally ride *into* work... [16:40] jjesse: hahah! true dat :P [16:40] ya, that would hurt [16:40] ;p [16:40] hahaha well since it's a bike... [16:40] super busy w/ kid and work so haven't been on much [16:41] hehe, I know the busy feeling [16:42] do you know the "should be busy but don't know where my time has gone to" feeling? [16:43] I mentioned the other day that I'll be doing a talk about contributing to KDE and Kubuntu next month for our LoCo. I need to get updated on our KDE 4 plans for Intrepid (thank goodness there will be a meeting next week :P) [16:45] hehe, no doubt [16:45] I am planning to deliver big news at our next meeting [16:45] i actually have never installed any alphas of intrepid [16:46] this is quite unusual for a dev cylce for me [16:46] same here [16:46] for nixternal specially! [17:16] all my belongs to the base [17:17] kdebase, that is :) [17:17] haha [17:19] i love elmo's world [17:30] * JontheEchidna <3's debuild -nc [17:33] <3 food [17:34] apachelogger: I think kde4libs should ftbfs [17:35] usr/share/kde4/accept-languages.codes should be usr/etc/kde4/accept-languages.codes [17:35]