[00:01] <_CrashMaster_> Kybish: Sort of. This is actually a support channel. Hang on and I'll grab you a link for ways you can contribute. [00:01] <_CrashMaster_> !contribute > ubottu [00:01] ubottu, please see my private message [00:01] <_CrashMaster_> wait. that was wrong. [00:02] <_CrashMaster_> !contribute > Kybish [00:02] Kybish, please see my private message [00:02] <_CrashMaster_> There we go. [00:03] hi.. i was installed enemy territory but sound didnt work.. u used command su -c 'echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss' and sound was ok but after reboot doesnt work screen in game.. can somebody help me? [00:07] I couldnt think of a good name to use [00:08] I usually use nainef but,,,,' [00:08] someone toold me that it meant something horible in a different language... [00:10] hi [00:11] i wonder if any of you can help me in a little issue that keeps me thinking... [00:12] geirhard??? what issue? === sea is now known as sea4ever [00:13] well, i'm trying to install a kdm theme, but when I restart the x server, it says when kdm starts: "cannot open /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/Whatever" [00:14] i don't know whether it says cannot open or cannot find, but the thing is the dir IS i that path and i'm using kdm theme manager under 3.5.9 kde [00:15] i've tried to change permissions of the themes directories but it doesn't work either... [00:15] neither have i found anything on google [00:16] any ideas? [00:17] remember me and my "virus that chagne the background?" [00:17] thanks crash! [00:18] well if someone do, to fix it u just have to do a system restore :D [00:19] what's this all about http://paste.ubuntu.com/30134/ my syslog is a mess because of this. can i stop it? [00:20] dein: do you have a static or dynamic ip? [00:21] ign0ramus: dynamic, i get it via dhcp [00:21] he is referring to the public ip [00:22] i'm not sure, then :S [00:22] dein: integrated wireless card or plugin (like a pcmia)? [00:23] ign0ramus: it's not wireless, wired dsl connection [00:23] dein: through a router? [00:26] ign0ramus: no [00:28] dein: well, its pretty clear that you're having trouble pulling an ip from dhcp... looking for a workaround... [00:29] the workaround i found is killing off dhclient after connecting to the net, but not the best solution [00:29] i get similar problem if i get an ip from windows and then boot to linux. i guess it fixes itself after lease expires [00:30] to me it happens everytime i connect, unless i pkill dhclient afterwards [00:31] actually, i get it in xp too, there reseting the modem works.. in ubuntu ill just have to wait ~30min [00:32] and ive tried eveything from ifup to dhclient to networking restart etc. [00:32] seems more likely to be a router problem [00:32] (switch) [00:33] i think he's wired to the modem [00:33] Hi [00:33] How can i modify the k menu? [00:33] <_CrashMaster_> If it's OS independant, then the problem is in the NIC's firmware / driver, or the router's firmware. [00:33] modem? but then why does she need dhclient? [00:33] Like in gnome, it is alacarte, but in kde...? [00:33] <_CrashMaster_> Drk_Guy: Right-Click it, and choose Menu Editor [00:34] i meant 'dsl box' = modem [00:34] Thx _CrashMaster [00:34] geirhard: (i'm a he) ... when i disable dhclient i cannot connect. i get connected and then it breaks after a few seconds [00:34] hm... [00:35] dein: what is the output of command: " dhclient eth0 " [00:35] dein: must run as root or sudo [00:35] ign0ramus: under way [00:36] im guessing it's the same as in pastebin :) [00:36] Hello there [00:36] when it doesnt work.. i mean.. otherwise he wouldnt be here... looks like im ready to sleep [00:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/30137/ [00:37] Does anyone know how to get the Alt+F2 shortcut working with Emerald window decorator? [00:38] mmmm he could try to set autonegotiation off [00:38] don't remember how to do it, but i remember having a similar problem and that fixed it [00:39] dein: the only thing I can see is that you're requesting on 192.168.1.10 - is that correct? [00:39] well, that's what it says [00:40] the only thing i've set up when setting up my internet is the two dns servers [00:40] and this is not any of them [00:41] dein: i know that's what it says, but is that the correct setting for your config? === Agent_bob is now known as _2 [00:41] hmm [00:42] ign0ramus: well, i'm not really sure. it's obvious that something's wrong, but my internet works fine, so i don't know :S [00:43] dein: hmm.... usually people with that problem have connection issues, so you're lucky in that sense. I honestly don't know. [00:44] you have only one network card or 2? [00:45] <_2> now. let me ask again. how do you control what the kernel spews on the console [00:45] <_2> ? [00:45] anyone? [00:45] #kubuntu-es [00:45] <_2> quentin what's the Q ? [00:46] <_2> exit 42 [00:46] uhuh [00:46] Who am I speaking to? [00:46] Does anyone know how to get the Alt+F2 shortcut working with Emerald window decorator? <-- you might want to ask in #compiz-fusion [00:47] Jucato: ok. [00:47] Jucato: maybe #Emerald because compiz+kwin works like a charm [00:48] <_2> either way it's not a "kubuntu" question, but neither was mine. [00:48] hello [00:48] dein: try ethtool -A autoneg off $device [00:48] quentin: Emerald is Compiz's window decoration. compiz is a window manager like kwin. you can't use compiz *and* kwin at the same time. so "compiz+kwin" isn't possible [00:49] $device = eth0 or eth1 or whatever you use [00:49] how to add youtube to elisa [00:49] Cannot get device pause settings: No such device [00:49] quentin: either way, it's compiz that is grabbing the keyboard shortcuts, so best to ask in #compiz or #compiz-fusion (whichever their channel is) [00:49] I'm sorry, I mean KDE Window Decorator [00:49] ok [00:50] no... don't think this is the causant of the problem... [00:51] should be some kind of conflict in your router/modem configuration... === mike is now known as Guest32295 === Guest32295 is now known as mischka_de === mario_ is now known as msi [01:14] quentin: alt+f2 should bring up a run dialog [01:14] but it doesn't :'( [01:15] when using emerald [01:18] where can I find the batery icon ? [01:18] :P [01:19] You mean the kpowersaver applet? I think its a panel applet. [01:19] or else its a command that puts an icon in the system tray [01:19] not on kde at the moment.. so i cant check. [01:19] but I cannot find this panel applet.. [01:21] apt-cache search battery | grep kde [01:21] kde-guidance-powermanager - HAL based power manager applet [01:21] salut [01:21] perhaps its that. [01:21] I just installed Kubuntu and I like to keep seeing the windows boot option when I restart my machine, how can I do that? [01:21] what [01:22] lebafar: try to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst [01:22] ok thanks [01:22] windows boot option? You mean the grub menu? === lagmediaster is now known as lagmediaster__ [01:23] y [01:24] coco [01:24] haha [01:24] sa [01:24] asasa [01:24] su do [01:24] sudo du [01:24] dd [01:24] ss [01:24] sasadfiezof [01:24] rteuthrugtbgyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeett === lagmediaster__ is now known as lagmediaster [01:24] salut [01:24] sava [01:24] ketket [01:28] !enter [01:28] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [01:30] I am new to Linux and Kubuntu. I am trying to use a flat bed scanner made by Benq/Acer unit ID is S2W 3300U. How do I make K recognize the scanner ? Any help greatly appreciated. [01:32] how do I sudo to save a menu.lst file if I am inside Kate editor ? [01:33] you should have open kate with gksudo [01:33] before editing the file [01:33] lebafar: you can you should have used sudo before you made the changes. You could copy exit then paste after you gain rights [01:34] so I need to open Kate from terminal ? [01:34] !sane [01:34] Scanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR [01:34] lebafar, thats how its often done, or with alt-f2. kdesudo kate /boot/menu/whtever [01:36] Thank you, let me try it. [01:37] can I just open the application with sudo and then open whtever file with sudo enabled ? [01:38] do NOT use sudo for gui apps. [01:38] !sudo [01:38] sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE) [01:38] it can cause... issues. :0 [01:39] is there a way to do a non destructive move, essentially rsync except once a file has been synced to the dest delete it. I would just run rsync and then delete the source, but I don't have enough disk space. Also the dir contains subdir's so as far as I can tell dointg a mv command would be very destructive. [01:39] ok :) [01:39] brb === robert__ is now known as Guest71218 === john-charles is now known as gkffjcs_ === Schumbi is now known as Schumbi__ === vore is now known as erov [01:46] <_2> gkffjcs_ mv [01:47] <_2> why would "mv" be destructive ? [01:48] <_2> "mv" is made for "moving inodes" i don't understand your logic in "dointg a mv command would be very far as I can tell dointg a mv command would be very [01:48] <_2> destructive. " [01:49] <_2> i seems to have grabed two lines with that last paste... ;/ [01:49] hola [01:49] <_2> howdy eriol [01:50] que tal?? [01:50] alguien habla español [01:50] <_2> no. sorry [01:50] !es | eriol [01:50] eriol: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [01:51] bueno almenos me entiendes [01:51] jajja [01:51] ok [01:51] thanks anyware [01:51] <_2> you're welcome somehow [01:52] how not to print those 'permission denied' messages on 'find -name file' [01:52] <_2> 2>/dev/null [01:52] josa, filter them out with grep perhaps? [01:52] <_2> 2>/dev/null [01:52] :o [01:53] <_2> they are on stderr just chuck them in the null [01:54] <_2> find ... 2>/dev/null simple as that [01:54] yeah thanks [01:54] now i think i can finally go to sleep.. 4am already lol [01:55] It worked, thanjs [01:56] <_2> josa without a number > assumes stdout i.e. 1 you can specify 1 or 2 to be redirrected and you can tye them togather also examples: blah > /put/stdout/here ; blah 2>/put/stderr/here ; blah >/put/both/here 2>&1 [01:57] whats is the file manager name on kubuntu ? [01:57] <_2> konqueror [01:57] k, thank you! [01:57] <_2> kde4 uses dolphan [01:58] konqueror is a webbrowser [01:58] oh.. [01:58] <_2> kde3 uses konqueror "by default on both..." [01:58] Konqueror is both a web browser and a file manager [01:59] _2: actually Kubuntu KDE 3 is using a silly little file manager named D3lphin renamed to Dolphin... [01:59] * Jucato is being nice when he calls it "silly" [01:59] <_2> konqueror is a file-manager that does network things pretty well :))) [02:00] <_2> Jucato hardy has delphin as default ? [02:00] _2: since gutsy [02:00] Dolphin isn't bad (it's really good). D3lphin is... [02:00] * Jucato just looks the other way [02:00] <_2> really! i knew it was avalable. didn't know it was default. [02:01] * _2 recompiles database [02:01] :) [02:01] <_2> Jucato i stand under you again. [02:02] * Jucato looks down... hi there! [02:02] <_2> :) [02:02] * Jucato has firecracker proof foot- and leg- wear [02:04] hello iam brazlian [02:05] !br | marinhojeff [02:05] marinhojeff: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [02:05] poruguese???/ [02:05] <_2> english word/phrase "understand" literally to "sdand under" probably from the idea of education dating as far back as the early rabinical schools where the master not only taught but exracised authority over the deciples. thus as they learned they "stood"(possition not posture) under the master. [02:05] <_2> stand [02:05] ok!!! tank you [02:06] <_2> so when one says i understand you they are saying you have taught me. [02:07] Hi folks, whenever I attempt to run glxgears, I get this error: << Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual >> I have a nVidia 8600GT and a nVidia 7300GS, in a four-monitor setup. [02:07] vc é brasileiro [02:07] This is a pretty fresh install of Kubuntu 8.04, and I'm using the nvidia drivers (the propreitary ones) [02:09] <_2> ICM google is full of pages on that... [02:09] In nvidia-settings, I click on 'OpenGL/GLX Information' and it states << Fail to query the GLX server vendor >> [02:09] _2 - I couldn't find any. [02:09] <_2> google.com/linux input exactly "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual" and enter [02:10] <_2> Results 1 - 10 of about 659 for "Error: couldn't get an RGB, [02:10] Note how none of them are solved [02:10] hi there everyone [02:11] _2- I tried searching first and couldn't find anything... [02:11] <_2> i was only saying it's got a lot of pages, not that the answer you want is there. google hates me, but the fact that there are so many of the same error means its not new... [02:12] Well, that's why I came in here to ask. I couldn't find a relevant answer, so I thought I would come in here, hoping to not get yelled at by someone like yourself, so that I could get this working. [02:13] * _2 did not yell [02:14] <_2> THIS IS YELLING ! [02:14] * ICM sighs [02:15] lol [02:20] <_2> ICM i don't see an answer for you other than "driver" and you don't want to hear that. but; if no one else tries, i guess you'll have to take it up with nvidia [02:21] _2- I don't understand your response. I'm using the nvidia propreitary driver as it is [02:21] I know glx things will work with it. === tanner_ is now known as TDB_1016 [02:22] <_2> ICM the very fact that it is propritary kinda ties FOSS hands... [02:22] Sigh, I knew I'd get this crap... [02:23] ICM: calm down. if you do not want his help, *respectfully* decline it, and try your luck waiting for someone else who *might* know [02:24] I want this help, Jucato, I don't want to be talked down to. I know that I don't konw exactly what I'm doing, I'll openly admit that. However, the typical elitist responses of "Google it" and "Ew, propritary" kinda piss me off. [02:25] Yes, I googled it, yes, I know I'm using the propritary driver, I've always been told to do so. === jordan is now known as Vashthe3rd [02:27] <_2> when did _2 becames 3litist ? and get as mad as you want. it changes nothing. but i'll stop fanning the fire now. [02:27] ICM: you should have mentioned that the first time then. people can't presume that everyone either Googles first or knows what he's using/doing. also, not everyone (and not everyone who's currently available) would know how to solve it, hence the suggestion to do research (which you already did, but didn't mention until you were told to) [02:28] anyway, I suggest you wait for a while and ask your question again [02:28] I bet I get kicked for repeating it :) [02:28] ICM: not if you repeat at sane intervals... [02:29] Hehe. Sanity? What's that? I run Linux. [02:29] ICM: is your machine 32 or 64bit [02:29] ICM: and btw, no one said "ew proprietary". _2 was just stating a fact (a fact that has become all the more so obvious with KDE 4) [02:29] dlee: 64-bit, it's an Intel Core 2 Duo, and I'm running the AMD64 copy of Kubuntu [02:29] maybe you can try using 32bit version [02:30] 32-bit version of Kubuntu or the driver? [02:30] both [02:30] at the same time or different times? [02:30] at the same time [02:30] i think it's impossible to use 32 & 64bit at the same time [02:31] Well, I might as well go back to Windows if I'm going to 32 bit, see, I have 4 GB of RAM, and I was hoping to be able to use it all :/ [02:32] you can use it all with linux 32bit [02:32] How so? O_o [02:32] I thought 4GB was the max RAM yo could use on 32bit? [02:32] yes [02:33] Every time I try to emerge gentoo-sources on my install I keep getting a fetch error. It tells me I have an invalid log file :merge.error Can anyone give me a hand [02:33] so you could use 32bit since you only have 4GB RAM [02:33] hmmm... it seems that 32bit linux can access up to 64Gigs [02:33] ben: wrong channel? [02:33] Sorry ;) [02:33] heh [02:33] ... High Memory Support? [02:33] yap [02:34] oh crap, then why am I running 64-bit? x.x [02:34] 64bit is the future :) [02:34] But 32-bit is now! [02:34] riiiight... keep on believing in that :) [02:34] (that was for dlee :P) [02:34] * ICM downloads 32-bit KUbuntu [02:34] lol [02:34] when we all get to have 4 petabytes of ram [02:34] I think I just orgasmed. [02:34] * Jucato also thought that Windows was mentioned as the better solution to the 64-bit problem... since he's heard how Windows has no 64-bit version... [02:35] bah.. that's another story not for #kubuntu :P [02:35] Anyone know where Konversation backs up the configuration files? [02:35] alright, hope all works well [02:35] good night [02:35] cya [02:35] sleep... don't think I'll be doing that tonight [02:35] ~/.kde/share/config/konversation* files [02:36] <_2> ah the 64bit question ... concentrate [02:37] for a minute I thought you said 'castrate', which honestly would've sounded more accurate [02:37] and thanks Jucato [02:42] how do i install something from within different user in consoe? [02:42] consoe* [02:42] console* [02:43] i tried using su but it says authentication failed [02:44] su username [02:45] you probably got the passwd wrong [02:45] su - username (I think that's preferred..) [02:46] <_2> hsandhu sudo [02:49] <_2> hsandhu while both su and sudo allow you to specify the username they also both default to root. in .*ubuntu root account is locked by default and thus su or as Jucato pointed out su - wont work. you'll have to use sudo and it works because your account isn't locked. (locked account really means that the password authentication for said account will always fail) === root is now known as Guest20372 [02:51] hi [02:51] <_2> bdizzle [02:51] I'm running Hardy with a dual boot of XP Pro with a third partition on my laptop. [02:51] is there a way to get Kubuntu to automatically mount the windows and third partition when it boots? [02:51] <_2> !fstab [02:51] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [02:52] <_2> !ntfs [02:52] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [02:52] !FUSE [02:52] FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE. Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems [02:53] <_2> Jucato isn't that infonode old ? doesn't hardy come with ntfs write support builtin ? [02:53] meh, I'd prefer if someone could walk me through it [02:53] it does, but I have to go into media and double click on the drive, enter in my password, then it lets me get into it [02:53] _2: never tested it, so can't confirm. sorry [02:53] I'd rather be able to do that right from boot, rather than having to enter in my password each time [02:55] <_2> bdizzle i'll give an example of a line in an fstab file. /dev/sda6 /media/windarz ntfs-3g auto,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 0 [02:55] okay, I understood up to the ntfs-3g [02:56] <_2> bdizzle something like that (tuned to your system of course) will automaticly mount the fs at boot time. [02:56] so /dev/sda6 is the hard drive location, /media/windarz is where to mount it, what are the rest? [02:56] what are the fmask and dmask? [02:56] <_2> up to the... that field sets the fs type the next sets the mount options and the last two should be 0's [02:57] <_2> fmask file mask dmask directory mask [02:57] okay [02:57] <_2> seeing that M$ file systems have no permissions bits you have to set a psyudo permission for the entire fs [02:58] <_2> if you don't specify then it will default to a root only access and you don't want that [02:58] gotcha [02:58] <_2> or should i say root only write access prolly universal read access [02:58] hmm [02:59] okay, so how do I get linux to show me what the hard drive names are to be able to mount them? [02:59] <_2> sudo fdisk -l [02:59] ie, I just booted up. in command line, I'm at the media folder [02:59] <_2> blkid [03:00] gotcha [03:00] <_2> either of those can be useful [03:00] okay, there are 7 drives listed there. I only have three partitions and then the swap [03:01] what the hell are the rest? [03:01] is there a graphical way to see this? [03:01] <_2> you can pastebin them. and umm yeah... but i don't recall what/where [03:01] gparted I think? [03:02] pastebin? [03:02] <_2> qtparted [03:02] <_2> !paste [03:02] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [03:03] okay, how do I use it? I've got entered, how do I get it into the chat? [03:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/30165/ [03:03] maybe that works [03:04] <_2> bdizzle but i can explain without looking some of it. three fs's you use pluse the swap that's 4 and the extended partition that holds the logical drives that's 5 and windows has it's cute little boot partition that's 6 and you may have an oem hiden partition for recovery mode in M$ [03:04] <_2> now i'll look [03:06] wait, kubuntu is one partition (EXT3), swap on a second (SWAP), windows on a third (NTSF), and then I have another partition for media (NTSF) [03:06] if I could figure out which one has that nasty OEM recovery for Vista (that will never see the light of day on my computer), I'd love to remove that and gain back the 10 GB or so [03:07] <_2> yep sda1 is the hiden thingy sda2 is the M$ boot sda3 is the extended (you never see it, you see the other 3 it houses) sda5 is the other windows disk sda6 swap and sda7 your installed kubuntu [03:07] can we mount sda1 and wipe it and re-partion it so that I can use that space? [03:08] and then have kubuntu automatically mount sda2 and sda5 when it boots? [03:08] <_2> bdizzle you have everything valuable backed up ? [03:08] <_2> it's never considered safe to play with the partition table [03:08] on the two partitions only [03:09] I don't have a data transfer cable to transfer it to another computer [03:09] if I know at least to leave the windows partition alone (sda2), I should be okay [03:11] <_2> if you feel fine with proceeding then i would sujest using sudo cfdisk and setting the type on sda1 to "83" save and exit. then; sudo mke2fs -jc /dev/sda1 <<< note that will write an ext3 file system on that partition. i do not guarentee that it wont afect anything else "especially not M$" but that should do what you asked for. [03:12] okay [03:12] what about automounting the windows and third partition upon boot? [03:12] <_2> the rest is simply editing your fstab file it's in /etc and root owns it. [03:13] <_2> pastebin your existing fstab and i'll add three lines. if you want. (offer good for the next 5 seconds only) [03:14] <_2> else you can edit it. basicly following the example i already posted [03:14] <_2> or ask someone else... or... the world is full of options [03:15] lol [03:15] hold on [03:15] <_2> times up. [03:15] <_2> :) [03:15] let me pastbin [03:15] Heh, I love amarok. [03:15] I had to get to the file first [03:15] lol [03:15] amarok rocks [03:15] <_2> bdizzle i know. go ahead [03:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/30167/ [03:16] I'll study it before I use it to try to learn [03:16] I think the thing that worried me was the UUID= [03:19] <_2> blkid can display them. but you can specify device names too [03:19] ok [03:19] <_2> the uuid is format specific i.e. reformating an fs will change the uuid [03:19] ah [03:20] hmm, I tried blkid and it didn't do anything in terminal [03:21] <_2> but it's not address specific. i.e. it can be moved around on the system bus/s and maintain the same uuid the device listing is address the uuid is fs name "not lable, lables can also be used" [03:21] hmm [03:22] <_2> bdizzle copy paste into konsole blkid [03:22] * _2 thinks typo.... [03:23] yeah, nothing [03:25] <_2> really... no error nothing ? [03:25] <_2> anyway here's an example fstab http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7382d329 [03:25] okay, I tried ps - l in terminal, and it claims that only bash and ps was running, yet firefox wasn't listed when I was trying to get it to load. Told it to load firefox from the konsole and it claimed it was already running (it wasn't) [03:26] <_2> should work. note that does depend on the ntfs-3g driver [03:26] how so? [03:26] <_2> bdizzle "the fstab i pasted should work ^ " the ps output... cause you didn't ask it for the full process list [03:27] <_2> bdizzle ps axf [03:27] <_2> bdizzle ps -A xu [03:28] <_2> switches are important to ps and anything in linux [03:28] okay [03:28] ahh, okay [03:29] * _2 likse pstree [03:29] <_2> likes to typo too [03:29] *sigh* its gonna be a long time before I truly understand command line [03:29] at least I'm not afraid of it anymore [03:29] or at least not nearly as much as before [03:29] <_2> it do take time [03:30] k, brb, lemme see if this works [03:36] <_2> oh shoot. i just happened to think. grub will need adjusted for the unhiden partition O.O [03:36] okay, that didn't work [03:36] now it won't let me even load the drives [03:37] do you have the paste bin of the old file? [03:37] <_2> load the dirvers ? [03:37] <_2> load what drivers ? [03:37] sorry [03:37] <_2> oh drives [03:38] <_2> no r my bad [03:38] um, when I got into media/ and click on the drives, it now says permissions denied [03:38] what was the pastebin so that I can remember which lines you added to remove them [03:38] <_2> bdizzle you in kde ? [03:38] yeah [03:38] <_2> open a konsole and type mount [03:39] <_2> pastebin the output [03:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/30171/ [03:40] <_2> bdizzle one other question did you reboot ? [03:40] yes, I did [03:40] that's why I disappeared [03:40] <_2> ok. i was afraid that grub might get lost in the shuffle but you have proved that fear vain [03:41] lol [03:41] <_2> ok give me just a second here. [03:41] can I temporarily change it back to the original now that I figured out what it was? [03:42] nevermind, if it boots at least, I'm okay, now that I've backed it up a bit [03:44] alright, so what do I need to do to fix this? [03:45] <_2> hang on just a minute. life happens too. i haven't left you to wonder. [03:46] lol, sorry [03:46] I'm trying to read the man page for blkid as you mentioned [03:46] Hello everyone [03:47] hello [03:47] I need a little bit of your help if you are not very busy right now [03:49] gah, what is with the response time from me clicking on firefox to it loading firefox being so slow (>5 -10 seconds) [03:49] I can try isaa, but I may not be of much help [03:50] anyone here use SuperKaramba? [03:51] <_2> bdizzle comment out the last three lines of your /etc/fstab and run this sudo apt-get install ntfs-config it's supposed to be made for your system [03:51] <_2> and let me learn what i missed. [03:51] ah, okay [03:52] <_2> when it installs kdesu ntfs-config [03:52] How can I install Kubuntu together with Ubuntu? Can I do if from a Kubuntu 8.04 CD? [03:53] <_2> bdizzle looks like this option may be needed in the ntfs lines i added. and i didn't add it... locale=en_US.utf8 [03:53] okay [03:53] add it at the end? [03:54] <_2> bdizzle other than that i don't see anything that should cause an issue. auto,dmask=000,fmask=111 0 0 >>> auto,dmask=000,fmask=111,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 [03:55] <_2> you can add defaults, to that if you wish. it shouldn't really change anything (unless the ntfs-3g driver is more wierd than i think it is... which is possable.) [03:57] <_2> bdizzle arrr heh. take the -3g out and see what it does. [03:57] <_2> and by the way. don't reboot to test it. [03:58] yeah [03:58] okay, so then for the file, lemme make sure I've got it right [03:58] <_2> ***NOTICE reboot is not required for hardly any system changes*** [03:58] <_2> kernel only ^ [03:58] kk [03:59] lemme pastebin it first [03:59] <_2> k [03:59] i'm new us'n linux and i was woundering how can i install a theme for my desktop? [03:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/30175/ [03:59] that doesn't quite seem right [03:59] andare, its kinda wierd, but go to www.kde-look.com and hunt for one you like [03:59] get into the repo and download the KDM theme manager (I think) [04:00] <_2> looking [04:00] andare, 'themes' under kde work a little differently then windows. :) a 'theme' is made from various parts.. The package manager has a great # of theme parts. that are not isntalled by default. [04:00] i did that i downloaded one that i do like but how do i make sure that it does work? [04:00] <_2> heh nope. [04:00] <_2> let me ammend [04:00] double click on it [04:00] often the theme 'parts' need to be compiled. this can take a little bit of effort. Deoending on the exact theme/part. [04:00] go to run -> kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> Theme Manager [04:00] install from there [04:01] i have tried that already [04:01] !changetheme [04:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme [04:01] !changethemes [04:01] To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy. Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubottu xfce-themes [04:02] <_2> bdizzle sorry i haxord the first one. http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4a33c142 [04:03] <_2> i have seen so many fstab lines... it's not funny anymore. and yes i do mix them up some times. [04:03] lol, okay [04:03] alright, save it and then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace ? [04:04] <_2> no [04:04] okay... === |Aryn| is now known as aRyn [04:04] <_2> sudo mkdir -p /mnt /media/windows1 /media/windows2 ;sudo mount -a [04:05] k [04:05] <_2> ls /media/windows* [04:05] [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab [04:05] no such file or directory [04:05] <_2> ???? [04:06] that's what it said [04:06] <_2> you just made two dirs.... how can they not be there ? [04:06] not sure [04:06] <_2> ls /media [04:06] typos ? [04:06] L( [04:06] okay, I see them now [04:07] <_2> Dr_willis :) [04:07] now will that load them when it boots though? [04:07] wait, it sees them from there [04:07] <_2> did it mount the "drives" ? [04:07] I tried change directory into them and it says No such file or directory [04:07] no [04:08] cdrom cdrom0 windows1 windows2 [04:08] bdizzle@mylaptop:/$ cd windows1 [04:08] bash: cd: windows1: No such file or directory [04:08] bdizzle@mylaptop:/$ mount windows1 [04:08] [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab [04:08] mount: can't find windows1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [04:08] <_2> and you are in / not /media [04:08] <_2> called pebcak [04:09] ... [04:09] *facepalm* [04:09] <_2> try cd /media and do the same thing over [04:09] yeah [04:09] is there a reason why they are highlighted in green? [04:09] <_2> yep full access [04:09] gotcha [04:09] <_2> means you can write to them [04:09] good [04:10] alright, now if I restart this session, will it still work? [04:10] <_2> yep [04:10] k, brb [04:11] okay, cool [04:11] that works [04:11] <_2> bdizzle i do not at any time retract the warning i gave earlier, you are in linux playing with partitions/'file systems' and you "can" lose data. be aware of that. [04:11] yeah [04:11] <_2> ok. enjoy. [04:12] <_2> bdizzle on and the extra space on /mnt you can chown or chmod that dir or any of it's contents it's ext3 [04:13] yeah [04:13] <_2> bdizzle also the "new line warning" you can edit fstab and just add a blank line at the end to fix that. [04:13] sweet, and extra 10 GB that I can do [04:13] ah, okay [04:14] i always make a extra storage partition for my users mounted to like /media/Storage/ with a directory for each user owned by the user. [04:14] <_2> Dr_willis yeah. i have a world accessable area with symlinks in all homes by default [04:15] okay, one more strange question [04:16] konqueor loads almost immediately. Firefox stalls - a lot. Why is it doing it, I've never had firefox stall before [04:17] <_2> i can't answer the stall. but konq is probably a "preloaded session" there is a switch to let you keep # of konqueror sessions preloaded for instant access [04:17] hmm, okay [04:17] * _2 doesn't like or use ff [04:18] why not, out of curiosity? [04:18] <_2> too bloated for me. i like dillo ok but it is a little too light for a gui i use elinks mostly console only [04:19] <_2> i never have liked mozilla/netscape/firefox stuff just don't like it... i don't really have to have a reason to like or dislike a thing. [04:20] "I may not be able to find somthing I like.. but i can always find somthing i dislike!" [04:20] :P [04:21] <_2> looks may contribute, the way it functions in a given situation, maybe... the fact that i couldn't force all popups to open tabs rather than windows maybe... [04:21] <_2> Dr_willis that's introspecive :) [04:21] very zen :) [04:21] <_2> t [04:22] My wife HATES the tabs.. :) shes cant seem to understand how tabs work. [04:22] <_2> :) [04:22] <_2> it's a guy thang [04:22] how can i get ubuntu to load emerald at boot instead of kwin? [04:23] <_2> !autostart [04:23] To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html [04:23] <_2> a script in the autostart dir ? [04:23] (or if you're using KDE 4.1 there's a GUI to set that... but...) [04:23] sweet, would "emerald --replace" work? [04:23] <_2> see Jucato [04:24] di48lo: only for the current session. [04:24] when you reboot or logout, it won't stick [04:24] <_2> i think he meant in a script in the autostart dir [04:24] <_2> it would there would it not ? [04:25] ah putting a script with "emerald --replace"? hm.. maybe... [04:25] though I think there's a better command to use.. I just don't know since I don't use compiz [04:25] <_2> yeah that's my idea. [04:25] emerald does not replace 'kwin' emerald is a window decorator. and it workj with compiz [04:25] well I'll give it a try and see [04:26] <_2> Dr_willis so compiz --replace ;emrald [04:26] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion [04:26] explains it. :) [04:26] <_2> syntax is probably wrong. [04:26] compiz --replace [04:26] emerals --replace [04:26] <_2> ah ok. [04:26] oops.. emerald --replace [04:27] There is that fusion-icon tool that makes it easier to change them [04:27] !find fusion [04:27] Found: compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-fusion-bcop, fusion-icon, libfusionsound-1.0-0, libfusionsound-dev (and 2 others) [04:27] !info fusion-icon [04:27] fusion-icon (source: fusion-icon): tray icon to launch and manage Compiz Fusion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.0+git20071028-2ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 29 kB, installed size 264 kB [04:28]