[00:01] <_CrashMaster_> Kybish: Sort of. This is actually a support channel. Hang on and I'll grab you a link for ways you can contribute.
[00:01] <_CrashMaster_> !contribute > ubottu
[00:01] <_CrashMaster_> wait. that was wrong.
[00:02] <_CrashMaster_> !contribute > Kybish
[00:02] <_CrashMaster_> There we go.
[00:03] <scretch> hi.. i was installed enemy territory but sound didnt work.. u used command su -c 'echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss' and sound was ok but after reboot doesnt work screen in game.. can somebody help me?
[00:07] <blunder> I couldnt think of a good name to use
[00:08] <blunder> I usually use nainef but,,,,'
[00:08] <blunder> someone toold me that it meant something horible in a different language...
[00:10] <geirhard> hi
[00:11] <geirhard> i wonder if any of you can help me in a little issue that keeps me thinking...
[00:12] <hsystemx> geirhard??? what issue?
[00:13] <geirhard> well, i'm trying to install a kdm theme, but when I restart the x server, it says when kdm starts: "cannot open /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/Whatever"
[00:14] <geirhard> i don't know whether it says cannot open or cannot find, but the thing is the dir IS i that path and i'm using kdm theme manager under 3.5.9 kde
[00:15] <geirhard> i've tried to change permissions of the themes directories but it doesn't work either...
[00:15] <geirhard> neither have i found anything on google
[00:16] <geirhard> any ideas?
[00:17] <dynoll3> remember me and my "virus that chagne the background?"
[00:17] <Kybish> thanks crash!
[00:18] <dynoll3> well if someone do, to fix it u just have to do a system restore :D
[00:19] <Dein> what's this all about http://paste.ubuntu.com/30134/ my syslog is a mess because of this. can i stop it?
[00:20] <ign0ramus> dein: do you have a static or dynamic ip?
[00:21] <Dein> ign0ramus: dynamic, i get it via dhcp
[00:21] <geirhard> he is referring to the public ip
[00:22] <Dein> i'm not sure, then :S
[00:22] <ign0ramus> dein: integrated wireless card or plugin (like a pcmia)?
[00:23] <Dein> ign0ramus: it's not wireless, wired dsl connection
[00:23] <ign0ramus> dein: through a router?
[00:26] <Dein> ign0ramus: no
[00:28] <ign0ramus> dein: well, its pretty clear that you're having trouble pulling an ip from dhcp... looking for a workaround...
[00:29] <Dein> the workaround i found is killing off dhclient after connecting to the net, but not the best solution
[00:29] <josa> i get similar problem if i get an ip from windows and then boot to linux. i guess it fixes itself after lease expires
[00:30] <Dein> to me it happens everytime i connect, unless i pkill dhclient afterwards
[00:31] <josa> actually, i get it in xp too, there reseting the modem works.. in ubuntu ill just have to wait ~30min
[00:32] <josa> and ive tried eveything from ifup to dhclient to networking restart etc.
[00:32] <geirhard> seems more likely to be a router problem
[00:32] <geirhard> (switch)
[00:33] <ign0ramus> i think he's wired to the modem
[00:33] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[00:33] <Drk_Guy> How can i modify the k menu?
[00:33] <_CrashMaster_> If it's OS independant, then the problem is in the NIC's firmware / driver, or the router's firmware.
[00:33] <geirhard> modem? but then why does she need dhclient?
[00:33] <Drk_Guy> Like in gnome, it is alacarte, but in kde...?
[00:33] <_CrashMaster_> Drk_Guy: Right-Click it, and choose Menu Editor
[00:34] <josa> i meant 'dsl box' = modem
[00:34] <Drk_Guy> Thx _CrashMaster
[00:34] <Dein> geirhard: (i'm a he) ... when i disable dhclient i cannot connect. i get connected and then it breaks after a few seconds
[00:34] <geirhard> hm...
[00:35] <ign0ramus> dein: what is the output of command: " dhclient eth0 "
[00:35] <ign0ramus> dein: must run as root or sudo
[00:35] <Dein> ign0ramus: under way
[00:36] <josa> im guessing it's the same as in pastebin :)
[00:36] <quentin> Hello there
[00:36] <josa> when it doesnt work.. i mean.. otherwise he wouldnt be here... looks like im ready to sleep
[00:37] <Dein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30137/
[00:37] <quentin> Does anyone know how to get the Alt+F2 shortcut working with Emerald window decorator?
[00:38] <geirhard> mmmm he could try to set autonegotiation off
[00:38] <geirhard> don't remember how to do it, but i remember having a similar problem and that fixed it
[00:39] <ign0ramus> dein: the only thing I can see is that you're requesting on 192.168.1.10 - is that correct?
[00:39] <Dein> well, that's what it says
[00:40] <Dein> the only thing i've set up when setting up my internet is the two dns servers
[00:40] <Dein> and this is not any of them
[00:41] <ign0ramus> dein: i know that's what it says, but is that the correct setting for your config?
[00:41] <besitzer> hmm
[00:42] <Dein> ign0ramus: well, i'm not really sure. it's obvious that something's wrong, but my internet works fine, so i don't know :S
[00:43] <ign0ramus> dein: hmm.... usually people with that problem have connection issues, so you're lucky in that sense.  I honestly don't know.
[00:44] <josa> you have only one network card or 2?
[00:45] <_2> now. let me ask again.    how do you control what the kernel spews on the console
[00:45] <_2> ?
[00:45] <quentin> anyone?
[00:45] <geirhard> #kubuntu-es
[00:45] <_2> quentin what's the Q ?
[00:46] <_2> exit 42
[00:46] <quentin> uhuh
[00:46] <quentin> Who am I speaking to?
 Does anyone know how to get the Alt+F2 shortcut working with Emerald window decorator? <-- you might want to ask in #compiz-fusion
[00:47] <quentin> Jucato: ok.
[00:47] <quentin> Jucato: maybe #Emerald because compiz+kwin works like a charm
[00:48] <_2> either way it's not a "kubuntu" question,  but neither was mine.
[00:48] <alpha_> hello
[00:48] <geirhard> dein: try ethtool -A autoneg off $device
[00:48] <Jucato> quentin: Emerald is Compiz's window decoration. compiz  is a window manager like kwin. you can't use compiz *and* kwin at the same time. so "compiz+kwin" isn't possible
[00:49] <geirhard> $device = eth0 or eth1 or whatever you use
[00:49] <alpha_> how to add youtube to elisa
[00:49] <Dein> Cannot get device pause settings: No such device
[00:49] <Jucato> quentin: either way, it's compiz that is grabbing the keyboard shortcuts, so best to ask in #compiz or #compiz-fusion (whichever their channel is)
[00:49] <quentin> I'm sorry, I mean KDE Window Decorator
[00:49] <quentin> ok
[00:50] <geirhard> no... don't think this is the causant of the problem...
[00:51] <geirhard> should be some kind of conflict in your router/modem configuration...
[01:14] <histo> quentin: alt+f2 should bring up a run dialog
[01:14] <quentin> but it doesn't :'(
[01:15] <quentin> when using emerald
[01:18] <lebafar> where can I find the batery icon ?
[01:18] <lebafar> :P
[01:19] <Dr_willis> You mean the kpowersaver applet?  I think its a panel applet.
[01:19] <Dr_willis> or else its a command that puts an icon in the system tray
[01:19] <Dr_willis> not on kde at the moment.. so i cant check.
[01:19] <lebafar> but I cannot find this panel applet..
[01:21] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search battery | grep kde
[01:21] <Dr_willis> kde-guidance-powermanager - HAL based power manager applet
[01:21] <lagmediaster> salut
[01:21] <Dr_willis> perhaps its that.
[01:21] <lebafar> I just installed Kubuntu and I like to keep seeing the windows boot option when I restart my machine, how can I do that?
[01:21] <lagmediaster> what
[01:22] <Schumbi> lebafar: try to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:22] <lagmediaster> ok thanks
[01:22] <Dr_willis> windows boot option? You mean the grub menu?
[01:23] <lagmediaster__> y
[01:24] <lagmediaster__> coco
[01:24] <lagmediaster__> haha
[01:24] <lagmediaster__> sa
[01:24] <lagmediaster__> asasa
[01:24] <lagmediaster__> su do
[01:24] <lagmediaster__> sudo du
[01:24] <lagmediaster__> dd
[01:24] <lagmediaster__> ss
[01:24] <lagmediaster__> sasadfiezof
[01:24] <lagmediaster__> rteuthrugtbgyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeett
[01:24] <lagmediaster> salut
[01:24] <lagmediaster> sava
[01:24] <lagmediaster> ketket
[01:28] <histo> !enter
[01:30] <michael_> I am new to  Linux and Kubuntu. I am trying to use a flat bed scanner made by Benq/Acer unit ID is S2W 3300U. How do I make K recognize the scanner ? Any help greatly appreciated.
[01:32] <lebafar> how do I sudo to save a menu.lst file if I am inside Kate editor ?
[01:33] <gayou> you should have open kate with gksudo
[01:33] <gayou> before editing the file
[01:33] <histo> lebafar: you can you should have used sudo before you made the changes.  You could copy exit then paste after you gain rights
[01:34] <lebafar> so I need to open Kate from terminal ?
[01:34] <Dr_willis> !sane
[01:34] <Dr_willis> lebafar,  thats how its often done, or with alt-f2. kdesudo kate /boot/menu/whtever
[01:36] <lebafar> Thank you, let me try it.
[01:37] <lebafar> can I just open the application with sudo and then open whtever file with sudo enabled ?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> do NOT use sudo for gui apps.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[01:38] <Dr_willis> it can cause... issues. :0
[01:39] <john-charles> is there a way to do a non destructive move, essentially rsync except once a file has been synced to the dest delete it. I would just run rsync and then delete the source, but I don't have enough disk space. Also the dir contains subdir's so as far as I can tell dointg a mv command would be very destructive.
[01:39] <lebafar> ok :)
[01:39] <lebafar> brb
[01:46] <_2> gkffjcs_ mv
[01:47] <_2> why would "mv" be destructive ?
[01:48] <_2> "mv" is made for "moving inodes"   i don't understand your logic in "dointg a mv command would be very far as I can tell dointg a mv command would be very
[01:48] <_2>                destructive. "
[01:49] <_2> i seems to have grabed two lines with that last paste...  ;/
[01:49] <eriol> hola
[01:49] <_2> howdy eriol
[01:50] <eriol> que tal??
[01:50] <eriol> alguien habla español
[01:50] <_2> no.  sorry
[01:50] <Jucato> !es | eriol
[01:51] <eriol> bueno almenos me entiendes
[01:51] <eriol> jajja
[01:51] <eriol> ok
[01:51] <eriol> thanks anyware
[01:51] <_2> you're welcome somehow
[01:52] <josa> how not to print those 'permission denied' messages on 'find -name file'
[01:52] <_2> 2>/dev/null
[01:52] <Dr_willis> josa,  filter them out with grep perhaps?
[01:52] <_2> 2>/dev/null
[01:52] <josa> :o
[01:53] <_2> they are on stderr   just chuck them in the null
[01:54] <_2> find ... 2>/dev/null       simple as that
[01:54] <josa> yeah thanks
[01:54] <josa> now i think i can finally go to sleep.. 4am already lol
[01:55] <michael_> It worked, thanjs
[01:56] <_2> josa   without a number  > assumes stdout  i.e. 1    you can specify 1 or 2 to be redirrected and you can tye them togather also    examples:  blah > /put/stdout/here   ; blah  2>/put/stderr/here    ; blah >/put/both/here 2>&1
[01:57] <lebafar> whats is the file manager name on kubuntu ?
[01:57] <_2> konqueror
[01:57] <lebafar> k, thank you!
[01:57] <_2> kde4 uses dolphan
[01:58] <lebafar> konqueror is a webbrowser
[01:58] <lebafar> oh..
[01:58] <_2> kde3 uses konqueror     "by default on both..."
[01:58] <Jucato> Konqueror is both a web browser and a file manager
[01:59] <Jucato> _2: actually Kubuntu KDE 3 is using a silly little file manager named D3lphin renamed to Dolphin...
[01:59]  * Jucato is being nice when he calls it "silly"
[01:59] <_2> konqueror is a file-manager  that does network things pretty well  :)))
[02:00] <_2> Jucato hardy has delphin as default ?
[02:00] <Jucato> _2: since gutsy
[02:00] <Jucato> Dolphin isn't bad (it's really good). D3lphin is...
[02:00]  * Jucato just looks the other way
[02:00] <_2> really!   i knew it was avalable.  didn't know it was default.
[02:01]  * _2 recompiles database
[02:01] <Jucato> :)
[02:01] <_2> Jucato i stand under you again.
[02:02]  * Jucato looks down... hi there!
[02:02] <_2> :)
[02:02]  * Jucato has firecracker proof foot- and leg- wear
[02:04] <marinhojeff> hello iam brazlian
[02:05] <Jucato> !br | marinhojeff
[02:05] <marinhojeff> poruguese???/
[02:05] <_2> english word/phrase "understand"  literally to "sdand under" probably from the idea of education dating as far back as the early rabinical schools where the master not only taught but exracised authority over the deciples.   thus as they learned they "stood"(possition not posture) under the master.
[02:05] <_2> stand
[02:05] <marinhojeff> ok!!! tank you
[02:06] <_2> so when one says    i understand you     they are saying you have taught me.
[02:07] <ICM> Hi folks, whenever I attempt to run glxgears, I get this error: << Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual >> I have a nVidia 8600GT and a nVidia 7300GS, in a four-monitor setup.
[02:07] <marinhojeff> vc é brasileiro
[02:07] <ICM> This is a pretty fresh install of Kubuntu 8.04, and I'm using the nvidia drivers (the propreitary ones)
[02:09] <_2> ICM google is full of pages on that...
[02:09] <ICM> In nvidia-settings, I click on 'OpenGL/GLX Information' and it states << Fail to query the GLX server vendor >>
[02:09] <ICM> _2 - I couldn't find any.
[02:09] <_2> google.com/linux   input exactly  "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual"   and enter
[02:10] <_2> Results 1 - 10 of about 659 for "Error: couldn't get an RGB,
[02:10] <ICM> Note how none of them are solved
[02:10] <suporte> hi there everyone
[02:11] <ICM> _2- I tried searching first and couldn't find anything...
[02:11] <_2> i was only saying it's got a lot of pages,  not that the answer you want is there.    google hates me,      but the fact that there are so many of the same error means its not new...
[02:12] <ICM> Well, that's why I came in here to ask. I couldn't find a relevant answer, so I thought I would come in here, hoping to not get yelled at by someone like yourself, so that I could get this working.
[02:13]  * _2 did not yell
[02:14] <_2> THIS IS YELLING !
[02:14]  * ICM sighs
[02:15] <Kybish> lol
[02:20] <_2> ICM i don't see an answer for you other than "driver"  and you don't want to hear that.    but; if no one else tries, i guess you'll have to take it up with nvidia
[02:21] <ICM> _2- I don't understand your response. I'm using the nvidia propreitary driver as it is
[02:21] <ICM> I know glx things will work with it.
[02:22] <_2> ICM the very fact that it is propritary kinda ties FOSS hands...
[02:22] <ICM> Sigh, I knew I'd get this crap...
[02:23] <Jucato> ICM: calm down. if you do not want his help, *respectfully* decline it, and try your luck waiting for someone else who *might* know
[02:24] <ICM> I want this help, Jucato, I don't want to be talked down to. I know that I don't konw exactly what I'm doing, I'll openly admit that. However, the typical elitist responses of "Google it" and "Ew, propritary" kinda piss me off.
[02:25] <ICM> Yes, I googled it, yes, I know I'm using the propritary driver, I've always been told to do so.
[02:27] <_2> when did _2 becames 3litist ?       and get as mad as you want.    it changes nothing.      but i'll stop fanning the fire now.
[02:27] <Jucato> ICM: you should have mentioned that the first time then. people can't presume that everyone either Googles first or knows what he's using/doing. also, not everyone (and not everyone who's currently available) would know how to solve it, hence the suggestion to do research (which you already did, but didn't mention until you were told to)
[02:28] <Jucato> anyway, I suggest you wait for a while and ask your question again
[02:28] <ICM> I bet I get kicked for repeating it :)
[02:28] <Jucato> ICM: not if you repeat at sane intervals...
[02:29] <ICM> Hehe. Sanity? What's that? I run Linux.
[02:29] <dlee> ICM: is your machine 32 or 64bit
[02:29] <Jucato> ICM: and btw, no one said "ew proprietary". _2 was just stating a fact (a fact that has become all the more so obvious with KDE 4)
[02:29] <ICM> dlee: 64-bit, it's an Intel Core 2 Duo, and I'm running the AMD64 copy of Kubuntu
[02:29] <dlee> maybe you can try using 32bit version
[02:30] <ICM> 32-bit version of Kubuntu or the driver?
[02:30] <dlee> both
[02:30] <ICM> at the same time or different times?
[02:30] <dlee> at the same time
[02:30] <dlee> i think it's impossible to use 32 & 64bit at the same time
[02:31] <ICM> Well, I might as well go back to Windows if I'm going to 32 bit, see, I have 4 GB of RAM, and I was hoping to be able to use it all :/
[02:32] <dlee> you can use it all with linux 32bit
[02:32] <ICM> How so? O_o
[02:32] <Jucato> I thought 4GB was the max RAM yo could use on 32bit?
[02:32] <dlee> yes
[02:33] <ben> Every time I try to emerge gentoo-sources on my install I keep getting a fetch error. It tells me I have an invalid log file :merge.error Can anyone give me a hand
[02:33] <Jucato> so you could use 32bit since you only have 4GB RAM
[02:33] <dlee> hmmm... it seems that 32bit linux can access up to 64Gigs
[02:33] <Jucato> ben: wrong channel?
[02:33] <ben> Sorry ;)
[02:33] <Jucato> heh
[02:33] <ICM> ... High Memory Support?
[02:33] <dlee> yap
[02:34] <ICM> oh crap, then why am I running 64-bit? x.x
[02:34] <dlee> 64bit is the future :)
[02:34] <ICM> But 32-bit is now!
[02:34] <Jucato> riiiight... keep on believing in that :)
[02:34] <Jucato> (that was for dlee :P)
[02:34]  * ICM downloads 32-bit KUbuntu
[02:34] <ICM> lol
[02:34] <dlee> when we all get to have 4 petabytes of ram
[02:34] <ICM> I think I just orgasmed.
[02:34]  * Jucato also thought that Windows was mentioned as the better solution to the 64-bit problem... since he's heard how Windows has no 64-bit version...
[02:35] <Jucato> bah.. that's another story not for #kubuntu :P
[02:35] <ICM> Anyone know where Konversation backs up the configuration files?
[02:35] <dlee> alright, hope all works well
[02:35] <dlee> good night
[02:35] <ICM> cya
[02:35] <ICM> sleep... don't think I'll be doing that tonight
[02:35] <Jucato> ~/.kde/share/config/konversation* files
[02:36] <_2> ah the 64bit question ...      concentrate
[02:37] <ICM> for a minute I thought you said 'castrate', which honestly would've sounded more accurate
[02:37] <ICM> and thanks Jucato
[02:42] <hsandhu> how do i install something from within different user in consoe?
[02:42] <hsandhu> consoe*
[02:42] <hsandhu> console*
[02:43] <hsandhu> i tried using su but it says authentication failed
[02:44] <posingaspopular> su username
[02:45] <posingaspopular> you probably got the passwd wrong
[02:45] <Jucato> su - username (I think that's preferred..)
[02:46] <_2> hsandhu sudo
[02:49] <_2> hsandhu while both su and sudo allow you to specify the username   they also both default to root.    in .*ubuntu root account is locked by default and thus su   or as Jucato  pointed out   su -      wont work.   you'll have to use  sudo     and it works because your account isn't locked.    (locked account really means that the password authentication for said account will always fail)
[02:51] <bdizzle> hi
[02:51] <_2> bdizzle
[02:51] <bdizzle> I'm running Hardy with a dual boot of XP Pro with a third partition on my laptop.
[02:51] <bdizzle> is there a way to get Kubuntu to automatically mount the windows and third partition when it boots?
[02:51] <_2> !fstab
[02:52] <_2> !ntfs
[02:52] <bdizzle> !FUSE
[02:53] <_2> Jucato isn't that infonode old ?    doesn't hardy come with ntfs write support builtin ?
[02:53] <bdizzle> meh, I'd prefer if someone could walk me through it
[02:53] <bdizzle> it does, but I have to go into media and double click on the drive, enter in my password, then it lets me get into it
[02:53] <Jucato> _2: never tested it, so can't confirm. sorry
[02:53] <bdizzle> I'd rather be able to do that right from boot, rather than having to enter in my password each time
[02:55] <_2> bdizzle i'll give an example of a line in an fstab file.   /dev/sda6 /media/windarz ntfs-3g auto,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 0
[02:55] <bdizzle> okay, I understood up to the ntfs-3g
[02:56] <_2> bdizzle something like that  (tuned to your system of course)  will automaticly mount the fs at boot time.
[02:56] <bdizzle> so /dev/sda6 is the hard drive location, /media/windarz is where to mount it, what are the rest?
[02:56] <bdizzle> what are the fmask and dmask?
[02:56] <_2> up to the...    that field sets the fs type   the next sets the mount options  and the last two should be 0's
[02:57] <_2> fmask file mask     dmask directory mask
[02:57] <bdizzle> okay
[02:57] <_2> seeing that M$ file systems have no permissions bits you have to set a psyudo permission for the entire fs
[02:58] <_2> if you don't specify   then it will default to a root only access and you don't want that
[02:58] <bdizzle> gotcha
[02:58] <_2> or should i say root only write access      prolly universal read access
[02:58] <bdizzle> hmm
[02:59] <bdizzle> okay, so how do I get linux to show me what the hard drive names are to be able to mount them?
[02:59] <_2> sudo fdisk -l
[02:59] <bdizzle> ie, I just booted up. in command line, I'm at the media folder
[02:59] <_2> blkid
[03:00] <bdizzle> gotcha
[03:00] <_2> either of those can be useful
[03:00] <bdizzle> okay, there are 7 drives listed there. I only have three partitions and then the swap
[03:01] <bdizzle> what the hell are the rest?
[03:01] <bdizzle> is there a graphical way to see this?
[03:01] <_2> you can pastebin them.      and umm yeah...  but i don't recall what/where
[03:01] <bdizzle> gparted I think?
[03:02] <bdizzle> pastebin?
[03:02] <_2> qtparted
[03:02] <_2> !paste
[03:03] <bdizzle> okay, how do I use it? I've got entered, how do I get it into the chat?
[03:03] <bdizzle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30165/
[03:03] <bdizzle> maybe that works
[03:04] <_2> bdizzle but i can explain without looking some of it.     three fs's you use  pluse the swap that's 4  and the extended partition that holds the logical drives that's 5  and windows has it's cute little boot partition that's 6  and you may have an oem hiden partition for recovery mode in M$
[03:04] <_2> now i'll look
[03:06] <bdizzle> wait, kubuntu is one partition (EXT3), swap on a second (SWAP), windows on a third (NTSF), and then I have another partition for media (NTSF)
[03:06] <bdizzle> if I could figure out which one has that nasty OEM recovery for Vista (that will never see the light of day on my computer), I'd love to remove that and gain back the 10 GB or so
[03:07] <_2> yep sda1 is the hiden thingy    sda2 is the M$ boot   sda3 is the extended (you never see it, you see the other 3 it houses) sda5 is the other windows disk sda6 swap and sda7 your installed kubuntu
[03:07] <bdizzle> can we mount sda1 and wipe it and re-partion it so that I can use that space?
[03:08] <bdizzle> and then have kubuntu automatically mount sda2 and sda5 when it  boots?
[03:08] <_2> bdizzle you have everything valuable backed up ?
[03:08] <_2> it's never considered safe to play with the partition table
[03:08] <bdizzle> on the two partitions only
[03:09] <bdizzle> I don't have a data transfer cable to transfer it to another computer
[03:09] <bdizzle> if I know at least to leave the windows partition alone (sda2), I should be okay
[03:11] <_2> if you feel fine with proceeding then   i would sujest using   sudo cfdisk  and setting the type on sda1 to "83"  save and exit.   then;  sudo mke2fs -jc /dev/sda1    <<< note that will write an ext3 file system on that partition.    i do not guarentee that it wont afect anything else  "especially not M$"    but that should do what you asked for.
[03:12] <bdizzle> okay
[03:12] <bdizzle> what about automounting the windows and third partition upon boot?
[03:12] <_2> the rest is simply editing your fstab file     it's in /etc   and root owns it.
[03:13] <_2> pastebin your existing fstab and i'll add three lines. if you want.    (offer good for the next 5 seconds only)
[03:14] <_2> else you can edit it.  basicly following the example i already posted
[03:14] <_2> or ask someone else...   or...   the world is full of options
[03:15] <bdizzle> lol
[03:15] <bdizzle> hold on
[03:15] <_2> times up.
[03:15] <_2> :)
[03:15] <bdizzle> let me pastbin
[03:15] <sea4ever> Heh, I love amarok.
[03:15] <bdizzle> I had to get to the file first
[03:15] <bdizzle> lol
[03:15] <bdizzle> amarok rocks
[03:15] <_2> bdizzle i know.  go ahead
[03:16] <bdizzle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30167/
[03:16] <bdizzle> I'll study it before I use it to try to learn
[03:16] <bdizzle> I think the thing that worried me was the UUID=
[03:19] <_2> blkid can display them.   but you can specify device names too
[03:19] <bdizzle> ok
[03:19] <_2> the uuid is format specific   i.e.  reformating an fs will change the uuid
[03:19] <bdizzle> ah
[03:20] <bdizzle> hmm, I tried blkid and it didn't do anything in terminal
[03:21] <_2> but it's not address specific.   i.e.  it can be moved around on the system bus/s and maintain the same uuid    the device listing is address   the uuid is fs name    "not lable,  lables can also be used"
[03:21] <bdizzle> hmm
[03:22] <_2> bdizzle copy paste into konsole      blkid
[03:22]  * _2 thinks typo....
[03:23] <bdizzle> yeah, nothing
[03:25] <_2> really...      no error  nothing ?
[03:25] <_2> anyway here's an example fstab   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7382d329
[03:25] <bdizzle> okay, I tried ps - l in terminal, and it claims that only bash and ps was running, yet firefox wasn't listed when I was trying to get it to load. Told it to load firefox from the konsole and it claimed it was already running (it wasn't)
[03:26] <_2> should work.   note that does depend on the ntfs-3g driver
[03:26] <bdizzle> how so?
[03:26] <_2> bdizzle "the fstab i pasted should work ^ "      the ps output...  cause you didn't ask it for the full process list
[03:27] <_2> bdizzle ps axf
[03:27] <_2> bdizzle ps -A xu
[03:28] <_2> switches are important to ps     and anything in linux
[03:28] <bdizzle> okay
[03:28] <bdizzle> ahh, okay
[03:29]  * _2 likse pstree
[03:29] <_2> likes  to typo too
[03:29] <bdizzle> *sigh* its gonna be a long time before I truly understand command line
[03:29] <bdizzle> at least I'm not afraid of it anymore
[03:29] <bdizzle> or at least not nearly as much as before
[03:29] <_2> it do take time
[03:30] <bdizzle> k, brb, lemme see if this works
[03:36] <_2> oh shoot.   i just happened to think.   grub will need adjusted for the unhiden partition  O.O
[03:36] <bdizzle> okay, that didn't work
[03:36] <bdizzle> now it won't let me even load the drives
[03:37] <bdizzle> do you have the paste bin of the old file?
[03:37] <_2> load the dirvers  ?
[03:37] <_2> load what drivers ?
[03:37] <bdizzle> sorry
[03:37] <_2> oh drives
[03:38] <_2> no r my bad
[03:38] <bdizzle> um, when I got into media/ and click on the drives, it now says permissions denied
[03:38] <bdizzle> what was the pastebin so that I can remember which lines you added to remove them
[03:38] <_2> bdizzle you in kde ?
[03:38] <bdizzle> yeah
[03:38] <_2> open a konsole and type     mount
[03:39] <_2> pastebin the output
[03:39] <bdizzle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30171/
[03:40] <_2> bdizzle one other question   did you reboot ?
[03:40] <bdizzle> yes, I did
[03:40] <bdizzle> that's why I disappeared
[03:40] <_2> ok.   i was afraid that grub might get lost in the shuffle but you have proved that fear vain
[03:41] <bdizzle> lol
[03:41] <_2> ok give me just a second here.
[03:41] <bdizzle> can I temporarily change it back to the original now that I figured out what it was?
[03:42] <bdizzle> nevermind, if it boots at least, I'm okay, now that I've backed it up a bit
[03:44] <bdizzle> alright, so what do I need to do to fix this?
[03:45] <_2> hang on just a minute.   life happens too.    i haven't left you to wonder.
[03:46] <bdizzle> lol, sorry
[03:46] <bdizzle> I'm trying to read the man page for blkid as you mentioned
[03:46] <isaa> Hello everyone
[03:47] <bdizzle> hello
[03:47] <isaa> I need a little bit of your help if you are not very busy right now
[03:49] <bdizzle> gah, what is with the response time from me clicking on firefox to it loading firefox being so slow (>5 -10 seconds)
[03:49] <bdizzle> I can try isaa, but I may not be of much help
[03:50] <lginn02> anyone here use SuperKaramba?
[03:51] <_2> bdizzle comment out the last three lines of your /etc/fstab   and run this   sudo apt-get install ntfs-config     it's supposed to be made for your system
[03:51] <_2> and let me learn what i missed.
[03:51] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[03:52] <_2> when it installs         kdesu ntfs-config
[03:52] <isaa> How can I install Kubuntu together with Ubuntu? Can I do if from a Kubuntu 8.04 CD?
[03:53] <_2> bdizzle looks like this option may be needed in the ntfs lines i added.  and i didn't add it...    locale=en_US.utf8
[03:53] <bdizzle> okay
[03:53] <bdizzle> add it at the end?
[03:54] <_2> bdizzle other than that i don't see anything that should cause an issue.      auto,dmask=000,fmask=111 0 0  >>>  auto,dmask=000,fmask=111,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:55] <_2> you can add defaults,  to that if you wish.  it shouldn't really change anything    (unless the ntfs-3g driver is more wierd than i think it is... which is possable.)
[03:57] <_2> bdizzle arrr    heh.  take the -3g out and see what it does.
[03:57] <_2> and by the way.   don't reboot to test it.
[03:58] <bdizzle> yeah
[03:58] <bdizzle> okay, so then for the file, lemme make sure I've got it right
[03:58] <_2> ***NOTICE  reboot is not required for hardly any system changes***
[03:58] <_2> kernel only    ^
[03:58] <bdizzle> kk
[03:59] <bdizzle> lemme pastebin it first
[03:59] <_2> k
[03:59] <andare> i'm new us'n linux and i was woundering how can i install a theme for my desktop?
[03:59] <bdizzle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30175/
[03:59] <bdizzle> that doesn't quite seem right
[03:59] <bdizzle> andare, its kinda wierd, but go to www.kde-look.com and hunt for one you like
[03:59] <bdizzle> get into the repo and download the KDM theme manager (I think)
[04:00] <_2> looking
[04:00] <Dr_willis> andare,  'themes' under kde work a little differently then windows. :) a 'theme' is made from various parts.. The package manager has a great # of theme parts. that are not isntalled by default.
[04:00] <andare> i did that i downloaded one that i do like but how do i make sure that it does work?
[04:00] <_2> heh  nope.
[04:00] <_2> let me ammend
[04:00] <bdizzle> double click on it
[04:00] <Dr_willis> often the theme 'parts' need to be compiled. this can take a little bit of effort. Deoending on the exact theme/part.
[04:00] <bdizzle> go to run -> kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> Theme Manager
[04:00] <bdizzle> install from there
[04:01] <andare> i have tried that already
[04:01] <Dr_willis> !changetheme
[04:01] <Dr_willis> !changethemes
[04:02] <_2> bdizzle sorry i haxord the first one.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4a33c142
[04:03] <_2> i have seen so many fstab lines...   it's not funny anymore.    and yes i do mix them up some times.
[04:03] <bdizzle> lol, okay
[04:03] <bdizzle> alright, save it and then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace ?
[04:04] <_2> no
[04:04] <bdizzle> okay...
[04:04] <_2> sudo mkdir -p /mnt /media/windows1 /media/windows2 ;sudo mount -a
[04:05] <bdizzle> k
[04:05] <_2> ls /media/windows*
[04:05] <bdizzle> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[04:05] <bdizzle> no such file or directory
[04:05] <_2> ????
[04:06] <bdizzle> that's what it said
[04:06] <_2> you just made two dirs....  how can they not be there ?
[04:06] <bdizzle> not sure
[04:06] <_2> ls /media
[04:06] <Dr_willis> typos ?
[04:06] <Dr_willis> L(
[04:06] <bdizzle> okay, I see them now
[04:07] <_2> Dr_willis :)
[04:07] <bdizzle> now will that load them when it boots though?
[04:07] <bdizzle> wait, it sees them from there
[04:07] <_2> did it mount the "drives" ?
[04:07] <bdizzle> I tried change directory into them and it says No such file or directory
[04:07] <bdizzle> no
[04:08] <bdizzle> cdrom  cdrom0  windows1  windows2
[04:08] <bdizzle> bdizzle@mylaptop:/$ cd windows1
[04:08] <bdizzle> bash: cd: windows1: No such file or directory
[04:08] <bdizzle> bdizzle@mylaptop:/$ mount windows1
[04:08] <bdizzle> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[04:08] <bdizzle> mount: can't find windows1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:08] <_2> and you are in /   not /media
[04:08] <_2> called pebcak
[04:09] <bdizzle> ...
[04:09] <bdizzle> *facepalm*
[04:09] <_2> try cd /media and do the same thing over
[04:09] <bdizzle> yeah
[04:09] <bdizzle> is there a reason why they are highlighted in green?
[04:09] <_2> yep  full access
[04:09] <bdizzle> gotcha
[04:09] <_2> means you can write to them
[04:09] <bdizzle> good
[04:10] <bdizzle> alright, now if I restart this session, will it still work?
[04:10] <_2> yep
[04:10] <bdizzle> k, brb
[04:11] <bdizzle> okay, cool
[04:11] <bdizzle> that works
[04:11] <_2> bdizzle i do not at any time retract the warning i gave earlier,  you are in linux   playing with partitions/'file systems'  and you "can" lose data.      be aware of that.
[04:11] <bdizzle> yeah
[04:11] <_2> ok.  enjoy.
[04:12] <_2> bdizzle on and the extra space on /mnt  you can chown or chmod that dir or any of it's contents   it's ext3
[04:13] <bdizzle> yeah
[04:13] <_2> bdizzle also the "new line warning"  you can edit fstab and just add a blank line at the end to fix that.
[04:13] <bdizzle> sweet, and extra 10 GB that I can do
[04:13] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[04:14] <Dr_willis> i always make a extra storage partition for my users mounted to like /media/Storage/ with a directory for each user owned by the user.
[04:14] <_2> Dr_willis yeah.  i have a world accessable area with symlinks in all homes by default
[04:15] <bdizzle> okay, one more strange question
[04:16] <bdizzle> konqueor loads almost immediately. Firefox stalls - a lot. Why is it doing it, I've never had firefox stall before
[04:17] <_2> i can't answer the stall.  but konq is probably a "preloaded session"    there is a switch to let you keep # of konqueror sessions preloaded    for instant access
[04:17] <bdizzle> hmm, okay
[04:17]  * _2 doesn't like or use ff
[04:18] <bdizzle> why not, out of curiosity?
[04:18] <_2> too bloated for me.   i like dillo ok  but it is a little too light for a gui    i use elinks mostly   console only
[04:19] <_2> i never have liked mozilla/netscape/firefox  stuff   just don't like it...   i don't really have to have a reason to like or dislike a thing.
[04:20] <Dr_willis> "I may not be able to find somthing I like.. but i can always find somthing i dislike!"
[04:20] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:21] <_2> looks may contribute, the way it functions in a given situation, maybe...  the fact that i couldn't force all popups to open tabs rather than windows maybe...
[04:21] <_2> Dr_willis that's introspecive  :)
[04:21] <Dr_willis> very zen :)
[04:21] <_2> t
[04:22] <Dr_willis> My wife HATES the tabs.. :) shes  cant seem to understand  how tabs work.
[04:22] <_2> :)
[04:22] <_2> it's a guy thang
[04:22] <di48lo> how can i get ubuntu to load emerald at boot instead of kwin?
[04:23] <_2> !autostart
[04:23] <_2> a script in the autostart dir ?
[04:23] <Jucato> (or if you're using KDE 4.1 there's a GUI to set that... but...)
[04:23] <di48lo> sweet, would "emerald --replace" work?
[04:23] <_2> see Jucato
[04:24] <Jucato> di48lo: only for the current session.
[04:24] <Jucato> when you reboot or logout, it won't stick
[04:24] <_2> i think he meant in a script in the autostart dir
[04:24] <_2> it would there would it not ?
[04:25] <Jucato> ah putting a script with "emerald --replace"? hm.. maybe...
[04:25] <Jucato> though I think there's a better command to use.. I just don't know since I don't use compiz
[04:25] <_2> yeah    that's my idea.
[04:25] <Dr_willis> emerald does not replace 'kwin' emerald is a window decorator. and it workj with compiz
[04:25] <di48lo> well I'll give it a try and see
[04:26] <_2> Dr_willis so compiz --replace ;emrald
[04:26] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[04:26] <Dr_willis> explains it. :)
[04:26] <_2> syntax is probably wrong.
[04:26] <Dr_willis> compiz --replace
[04:26] <Dr_willis> emerals --replace
[04:26] <_2> ah ok.
[04:26] <Dr_willis> oops.. emerald --replace
[04:27] <Dr_willis> There is that fusion-icon tool that makes it easier to change them
[04:27] <Dr_willis> !find fusion
[04:27] <Dr_willis> !info fusion-icon
[04:28] <Dr_willis> Information on the 3 window decorators can be found at http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Decoration
[04:31] <di48lo> when I do emerald --replace it only sticks for the session
[04:32] <di48lo> I just altered the windows decorator line in the ccsm to usr/bin/emerald, and it still wouldn't work
[04:33] <Dr_willis> i reccomend using the fusion-icon program
[04:33] <di48lo> what is it's package?
[04:34] <kaminix> What? Why does my last apt update give me this poop?      firefox-3.0: Depends: xulrunner-1.9 (>= 1.9.0.1) but 1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 is installed.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> !info fusion-icon
[04:37] <bdizzle> hey, _2, question. That extra drive that we freed up, how hard would it be to convert it to ntsf format so that both windows and kubuntu can read it?
[04:37] <bdizzle> as right now, its not letting me write to it unless I'm root
[04:39] <Dr_willis> if its ext2/3 you should make a directroy on the filesystem owned by the user you want to use the space.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> windows can read/write ext2/3 (but i dont advise it) :)
[04:39] <_2> bdizzle <bdizzle> as right now, its not letting me write to it unless I'm root <<< like i said,  chown or chmod   you can man both for what they do.    as to the other Q  there is an error in it.   windows can access ext2/3 filesystems   there are drivers on the web for that
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> ntfs
[04:40] <_2> sorry doc  didn't mean to jump in.
[04:40] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[04:42] <bdizzle> okay, so if I'm understanding the man page right, I need chown user /u  ?
[04:42] <_2> bdizzle short answer to your Q is kinda long.   if you convert sda1 to ntfs windows will prolly not boot correctly.    and i don't do windows.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> If theres a 'trick' to let the user read/write to the root of a ext2/3 filesystem... Im not sure what it is..:)
[04:42] <Dr_willis> mkdir /media/Storage/billgatesextrastorage
[04:43] <_2> bdizzle yes    sudo chown $USER /mnt
[04:43] <Dr_willis> sudo chown bgates /media/Storage/billgatesextrastorage :)
[04:43] <bdizzle> okay
[04:43] <_2> bdizzle you can set perms even on  /
[04:43] <g-unot> hello
[04:43] <bdizzle> right..
[04:43] <g-unot> im trying to play a .mov video
[04:43] <g-unot> and i seems that vlc wont play it
[04:43] <g-unot> nor will any other video players
[04:44]  * Dr_willis is poping in and out of the channel all day.. chasing the grandson around.. so i may miss some of the discussion
[04:44] <g-unot> ive downloaded all plugins for vlc
[04:44] <_2> Dr_willis i often do   sudo chmod 111 /     to keep people from graphically cd'ing to /
[04:44] <Dr_willis> _2,  Hmm..never seen that done befor.
[04:44] <_2> heh  it's madening  :)))
[04:44] <Dr_willis> 'graphically cd'ing'  ?? Hmm.. that seems...  oddly phraseed
[04:45] <_2> yeah but that was the best i could come up with
[04:45] <bdizzle> hmm, it says operation not permitted
[04:45] <bdizzle> oh well
[04:46] <_2> i have used   chmod 0001 /   as well    root is unaffected by permissions anyway
[04:46] <g-unot> totem also has no sound
[04:46] <_2> bdizzle on ?    paste your command
[04:46] <bdizzle> sudo chown bdizzle /mnt
[04:47] <_2> oh  yeah.  you may not be able to own an fs....   i'll have to check that.   but you can chmod it.
[04:47] <_2> i think you can own it too
[04:48] <Dr_willis> i dont see how chmoding a mountpoint works.. But ive not messed with the ext2/3 mountpoints/ I do belive that for ntfs/vfat chmoding the mountpoint will not change things.
[04:48] <bdizzle> I don't think its a mount point, its just a regular drive now
[04:48] <chills> hey guys iam using cdma wirless modem to connect to the net. i want to recieve fax .. is theyere any way ?
[04:48] <_2> d--x--x--x   7 greg root  4096 Dec  7  1941 home  <<<  >>>  d--x--x--x   7 root root  4096 Dec  7  1941 home
[04:48] <_2> you can own.
[04:49] <_2> Dr_willis if it's mounted.  and it is.  you are chmoding the root of the fs    like  chmod 0001 /    test it and see.
[04:50] <_2> i.e. you are not touching the "mountpoint"   as long as something is mounted there.
[04:50] <Dr_willis> _2,  but this does not apply to vfat/ntfs I belive..
[04:50] <_2> Dr_willis it's ext3
[04:50] <Dr_willis> I donthave a usb thub drive to test it on at this time.. heh
[04:51] <bdizzle> hmm
[04:51] <Dr_willis> now chmoding the Mountpoint BEFOR mounting. will have no effect... (correct?)
[04:51] <_2> and NO from your assumption of M$ fs  then no you can not chmod or shown
[04:52] <_2> ok that's confusing.   we type at the same time.
[04:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:52] <Dr_willis> I dont see it at the same time
 _2,  but this does not apply to vfat/ntfs I belive..  <_2> Dr_willis it's ext3  <_2> and NO from your assumption of M$ fs  then no you can not chmod or shown
[04:53] <Dr_willis> :0
[04:53] <_2> s/shown/chown/
[04:53] <Dr_willis> heh
[04:53] <Dr_willis> phear the root!
[04:55] <_2> Dr_willis what would you think about wtiring tar archives dirrectly to disk   no file system at all   ?
[04:55] <_2>   wtiring   i'm not lysdexic ~!\
[05:05] <_2> i guess that means he wouldn't think about it...
[05:05] <nuxil> hi all.. how do i figure out if my com|serial port is fried or if i just need to load modules ?
[05:06] <nuxil> im trying cat /dev/ttyS0 but i get no response
[05:06] <_2> lshw and lsmod with the aid of a search engine like google maybe ?
[05:07] <_2> ttyS0 ?   com one ?
[05:07] <nuxil> also when i mesure on the pins on the port. its sees a/c voltages,
[05:07] <nuxil> it seems strange to me.. but my multimeter is not so good thouhj
[05:07] <nuxil> _2, yes
[05:07] <_2> nuxil have an old serial mouse laying around ?
[05:08] <nuxil> no. but i  got a old ir led which i got connected.
[05:08] <nuxil> _2, for lirc
[05:08] <_2> od /dev/ttyS0   and send the ir a sig
[05:09] <nuxil> tried that
[05:09] <nuxil> oh,, od as in command :o i thought you meat it was odd
[05:09] <nuxil> hehe
[05:10] <nuxil> _2, cat /dev/ttyS0 or od /dev/ttyS0 dosent output anything
[05:11] <_2> ok.  sudo modprobe serial ;sudo modprobe ir-common    and retest
[05:12] <nuxil> no such modules
[05:12] <nuxil> i got serial_core
[05:12] <Dr_willis> weee - grandbaby is asleep...
[05:12] <_2> ok maybe they changed it
[05:12] <_2> and maybe Dr_willis changed him/her
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Grandpa dont do diapers... :)
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Now a bubble bath.. ok...
[05:14] <_2> nuxil if you have bash completion enabled   you can tab complete modules    check modprobe ir<tab.tab>
[05:14] <_2> Dr_willis
[05:14] <anom01y> what does it mean when I get a message when I try to print anything that says "the print file is empty and will be ignored" ? this is for a new printer I just added and let kubuntu detect and set up itself automatically
[05:15] <Dr_willis> anom01y,  you sure you are not printing 'to' a file instead of to the printer?
[05:15] <anom01y> well I changed it via localhost:631 to default printer (my new printer, that is)
[05:15] <anom01y> I will try again
[05:15] <Dr_willis> as in the error is saying ' the file you are trying to print to has an empty name field'
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i am just guessing.. :P
[05:16] <nuxil> _2, no ir module is need,, the lirc does the ir stuff. however it needs the serial port to work.
[05:16] <anom01y> this is the message that I get
[05:16] <anom01y> The print file is empty and will be ignored:
[05:16] <anom01y> /tmp/kde-lsemple/kdeprint_Gz8MD6i5
[05:17] <_2> nuxil and the generic serial helps it not...   ;/   nuxil idk       let me think on it a minute.
[05:17] <anom01y> nuxil: could it be that I dont have permissions to that /tmp folder ?
[05:17] <_2> nuxil do you have anything that can recieve a signal from the port ???
[05:18] <nuxil> only the ir led.
[05:18] <nuxil> err..
[05:19] <_2> nuxil ok.     cat /dev/random > /dev/ttyS0   and see if it does anything
[05:19] <nuxil> no.. i got no device to hook up to the serial port which can recieve data
[05:19] <Dein> i've set up my modem in routing mode and now my internet works, but i have a red diagnostic light on my modem's adsl-link , is this normal?
[05:19] <_2> nuxil and urandom is to fast you need real randome
[05:20] <nuxil> nothing
[05:20] <nuxil> i dont see anything
[05:20] <_2> nuxil ok.
[05:21] <_2> nuxil without any better equipment to tset with.     oh wait one other thing comes to mind.   is it turned off in bios ?
[05:22] <nuxil> no· i tripple checked the bios
[05:22] <_2> i remember having an issue with that one time.   linux shouldn't care but some times it does.     set it to a different com port maybe
[05:22] <anom01y> nevermind I just had to log out then back in again
[05:22] <anom01y> works like a charm
[05:23] <nuxil> _2, i only got 1 com port on my mobo
[05:23] <_2> anom01y stale lock file maybe ?
[05:23] <_2> nuxil but you can adjust it's settings in bios   "on good bios'ss anyway"
[05:24] <nuxil> i can only change the irg|add in the bios. and i tried that, whitout luck
[05:25] <_2> they usually specify like set to com1 or com2    some say use e2f8  or e3f0  and so forth
[05:26] <_2> nuxil ok  now when you change the  irq and address you move it from ttyS0  to ttyS1  or ttyS2 ....
[05:26] <_2> that's what i'm talking about.
[05:26] <_2> so you changed it and test all your ttyS[0-7]   it won't be higher than 7
[05:27] <nuxil> ic.. havent tried that.. i have only been testing ttyS0 after a change in the bios
[05:27] <_2> right  :)       it's worth a shot
[05:28] <_2> probably wont be higher than 3  but could be extended options...  so 7 to be safe
[05:31] <_2> i remember one old, i think it was ibm bios... could have ben pheonix;  anyway it specified com1 com2 com3 com4    for options   not the base address
[05:32] <_2> i think it was an 80286
[05:33] <_2> windows was young   and i didn't know any better...
[05:35] <nuxil> i dosent work.. so i guess my port is fried. which is what i suspect since i can measure a/c voltage on the pins.
[05:36]  * _2 never stuck a multimeter to a com port.   figured that a mouse was a better test device
[05:36] <nuxil> 'but then again, if the port is sending data out. it would be seen as a/c voltage for the tool
[05:37] <nuxil> *tool->multimeter
[05:37] <_2> tool -> nuxil   :)
[05:38]  * nuxil hammers his head against the keyboard
[05:38] <nuxil> so i need remote controll..
[05:38] <nuxil> arr,,
[05:39] <_2> need != want
[05:39] <proxi> hey guys
[05:40] <nuxil> if only my cellphone would support js 82 protocole. then i would be happy with bluepad
[05:40] <proxi> i was wundering if any1 could help me
[05:40] <proxi> :)
[05:41]  * _2 wonders about loading linux on a cell Fone
[05:41] <_2> !help | proxi
[05:41] <proxi> lol
[05:41] <proxi> i want to know how 2 install teamspeak on this thing
[05:42] <_2> !teamspeak
[05:42] <proxi> lol
[05:42] <proxi> k
[05:42] <proxi> thansk
[05:42] <_2> welcome
[05:42] <_2> !thanks | proxi
[05:42] <proxi> i dont know why
[05:42] <proxi> but
[05:42] <proxi> Ubuntu had issues
[05:43] <proxi> I Couldnt connect 2 the internet but with this i can
[05:43] <_2> same system different gui + tools
[05:43] <me> Does anyone here use Linux Mint?
[05:43]  * _2 hides
[05:43] <bdizzle> where can I download python2.3-gtk2?
[05:43] <bdizzle> lol
[05:44] <_2> !find gtk2
[05:44] <bdizzle> where at?
[05:44] <_2> can't get there that way.
[05:44] <nuxil> bdizzle, looked in adept ?
[05:44] <_2> !find python.*gtk2
[05:44] <me> I installed Kubuntu on Linux Mint. Has anyone ever done so?
[05:45] <_2> !info python-gtk2
[05:45] <bdizzle> I'm trying to get kubuntu up on my other computer and I hate knetworkmanager, could never get it to work right. So I'm trying to put on wicd. I had the wicd .deb file along with the python-gtk2_2.6, but it claims it has other dependenes of the 2.3
[05:45] <me> Linux Mint 5 by the way. They have no KDE release.
[05:45] <proxi> I did this command
[05:45] <proxi> where did it save to
[05:45] <bdizzle> yeah, but where can I download the .deb files to use a jump drive to download it to
[05:45] <proxi> I did a wget
[05:45] <bdizzle> right now I have no way of connecting to internet on my desktop computer
[05:46] <bdizzle> so I have to use flash drive to install .deb files
[05:46] <me> This may be cheating but I have Gnome and KDE on my box. I configure with Gnome and I'm learning to use KDE.
[05:46] <_2> bdizzle you can search the package database i'll have the bot drop you a url    and you can look on "http://sourceforge.net"   and the python site
[05:46] <me> I've never used KDE networkmanager.
[05:46] <_2> !packages | bdizzle
[05:47] <nuxil> bdizzle, look in your sources list in /etc/apt for the addresses
[05:47] <bdizzle> ah, thanks
[05:47] <_2> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <bdizzle> yeah, but the repos only work if you have access to the internet
[05:47] <bdizzle> I do not
[05:47] <_2>                             &
[05:47] <me> Gnome interface for networking is alot easier than KDE.  I just need to learn more about KDE.
[05:47] <_2> bdizzle you are on the internet
[05:47] <_2> ???
[05:48] <me> DOn't guess it matters if you don't have Gnome though.
[05:48] <proxi> Man
[05:48] <proxi> I cant figure out this thing
[05:48] <proxi> I do the right commands for ts
[05:48] <bdizzle> ....on my laptop I am
[05:48] <proxi> and it doesnt want to work
[05:48] <nuxil> bdizzle, you mean your cache ?
[05:48] <bdizzle> my desktop is another question
[05:48] <_2> bdizzle same system ?
[05:48] <proxi> Whats suppose to happen when i run -jxf
[05:48] <bdizzle> yeah, I just used the Kubuntu disk on it
[05:49] <nuxil> proxi, look in man command
[05:49] <z0d14k> I used to have/use ksynaptics to make my touchpad usable.  Hardy no longer has it.  I specifically want to preven unwanted clicks/taps.  The System settings doesn't seem to have a feature for that.
[05:49] <proxi> Im new to kubuntu lol
[05:49] <proxi> I have no idea what that means
[05:49] <bdizzle> and firefox is still hating me on my laptop. I'm able to get it to work for about five seconds, then it freezes
[05:49] <bdizzle> I've tried uninstalling and reinstaling, but to no avail
[05:50] <_2> bdizzle the anything you install on the one you could copy over to the other and install there as well    and apt has an option to "download only"   that would prevent you cluttering up one system to get the other going
[05:50] <z0d14k> bdizzle:  Do you have a lot of plugins or extensions installed?  64 or 32 bit system?
[05:50] <nuxil> proxi, man means manual. so in cli@you:\ man somecommand
[05:50] <proxi> mm
[05:50] <proxi> all i want to do is install teamspeak
[05:50] <proxi> and this os is freaking out
[05:51] <nuxil> haha.. server or client
[05:51] <proxi> client
[05:51] <proxi> i have the thing saved in my documents
[05:51] <nuxil> proxi, you are the one freaking out, nit the Os:å
[05:51] <bdizzle> 32 bit
[05:51] <proxi> lol
[05:51] <proxi> nuxil
[05:51] <proxi> im trying to install client
[05:51] <bdizzle> apt has an option to download only? where?
[05:51] <_2> bdizzle what i'm saying is    on the networked box do something like this     sudo apt-get -d install gentoo    then burn the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives to a disk and carry them to the other box  put them in /var/cache/apt/archives   and you can then  sudo apt-get install gentoo   on that box as if it was networked
[05:51] <nuxil> proxi, downloade the client binary file.. put it in your home dir
[05:52] <nuxil> unpack it
[05:52] <proxi> yea
[05:52] <proxi> i have the
[05:52] <proxi> bz2
[05:52] <bdizzle> ah... okay
[05:52] <proxi> file
[05:52] <_2> bdizzle example     only    ^
[05:52] <bdizzle> did not know I could do that
[05:52] <bdizzle> yeah
[05:52] <proxi> Now wheres my home directory
[05:52] <nuxil> proxi, you can use ark or cli to unpack it
[05:52] <proxi> ah here we go
[05:52] <_2> if it's the same installation   then the deps will be the same.
[05:52] <proxi> ok
[05:52] <nuxil> *ark or bzip
[05:52] <proxi> Its in my home folder
[05:52] <proxi> now
[05:53] <proxi> do i click
[05:53] <proxi> extrat
[05:53] <proxi> its already extracted mmk
[05:53] <nuxil> extract to myts
[05:53] <proxi> I see setup.sh
[05:53] <nuxil> good
[05:53] <nuxil> open a cli
[05:53] <_2> proxi users home dir is always stored in the var  $HOME   and in bash in the tild char
[05:53] <proxi> whats that under
[05:53] <nuxil> cd to that dir
[05:53] <_2> also   don't use enter for punct
[05:53] <proxi> cli u mean terminal?
[05:53] <nuxil> yea
[05:54] <proxi> so i go to
[05:54] <proxi> run command
[05:54] <nuxil> console
[05:54] <soniker89> hi
[05:54] <proxi> wait what
[05:54] <proxi> im in run command
[05:54] <proxi> so i cd to that directoryu
[05:54] <proxi> and run in terminal window
[05:54] <_2> nuxil "console" is not a command is it ?
[05:54] <soniker89> wgat are we talking about
[05:54] <soniker89> ???
[05:55] <proxi> Alrighty
[05:55] <_2> !support | soniker89
[05:55] <proxi> I cd'd
[05:55] <proxi> now it says
[05:55] <proxi> ./thedirectory
[05:55] <sea4ever> Erhm, I just accidentally deleted something, any chance it's recoverable
[05:56] <sea4ever> ?*
[05:56] <_2> sea4ever how did you delete it ?
[05:56] <proxi> What do i do after i CD'd the directory
[05:56] <_2> !recoverfiles
[05:56] <_2> !recover
[05:57] <sea4ever> I deleted it with rm..
[05:57] <_2> then the last half of that is to you  ^
[05:58] <proxi> hey i got it!
[06:00] <proxi> Wtf
[06:00] <proxi> it says teamspeak Not installed
[06:00] <proxi> when i do sudo ln -s /opt/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak /usr/bin/
[06:00] <proxi> Is there any other way to open it
[06:00] <soniker89> how do I update KDE3 to KDE4?
[06:00] <proxi> k i got it
[06:01] <soniker89> Im new in KUBUNTU!
[06:01] <bdizzle> um, if you're new, WAIT
[06:02] <di48lo> how to mount a sdb permanently?
[06:02] <proxi> Man
[06:02] <soniker89> how knows how to compile tallbars?
[06:02] <proxi> teamspeak is messed up
[06:02] <dwidmann> !comp;ile | soniker89
[06:02] <dwidmann> !compile | soniker89
[06:03] <_2> soniker89 you dont compile a tar archive   you compile the source coed that was probably archived as a tar file for transport
[06:03] <_2> soniker89 unpack it.   read the README INSTALL and any other all caps files it may contain
[06:04] <_2> !b-e | soniker89
[06:05] <soniker89> how do i read the "readme install"?
[06:06] <_2> with any text editor or file viewer
[06:06] <_2> pick your take
[06:07] <soniker89> so there is diferent ways to compile from source
[06:08] <_2> depending on who built it and how much they were wiling to simplify it for you... yes
[06:10] <soniker89> well, I've been trying to compile AVI-XMMS all goes fine until the ./configure
[06:10] <soniker89> it says "error glib missing or someething like that
[06:11] <bdizzle> UGH
[06:11] <bdizzle> finally got wicd and all dependencies installed
[06:11] <bdizzle> no wits stuck at "Generating WPA configuration file" - even though its a WEP passphrase
[06:11] <soniker89> good for U
[06:12] <_2> ubuntu uses libc6  not glibc   but maybe you can install glibc anyway ... ?
[06:12] <soniker89> no I try I goes fine
[06:12] <bdizzle> _2, do you use knetworkmanager or wicd?
[06:13] <soniker89> but when I try to compile AVI-XMMS says error glib path no found
[06:13] <_2> bdizzle no
[06:14] <_2> bdizzle if my wifi card was supported in the kernel i'm using i might have to experiment with it a littl     but it's not so i have no need of a network manager    i am the network manager here.
[06:14] <z0d14k> soniker89:  Why are you compiling KDE4?  Packages are available for Hardy for KDE4.
[06:15] <bdizzle> lol
[06:15] <bdizzle> okay...
[06:15] <z0d14k> soniker89: Especially if you, use the pre-compiled stuff.
[06:16] <soniker89> so what i got to do!
[06:16] <bdizzle> yeah, definitely try to install from the repos whenever possible
[06:17] <soniker89> I read the INSTRuCTIONS but that confiuse me even more
[06:18] <z0d14k> soniker89: sudo apt-get install kde4
[06:18] <z0d14k> Done.
[06:18] <soniker89> really
[06:18] <z0d14k> Yes.
[06:18] <soniker89> and then restart
[06:18] <z0d14k> Just log out and back in.
[06:18] <soniker89> o what else
[06:19] <z0d14k> That will take a while to downoad and install everything, but then KDE4 will be installed and ready to go.  Log out, make sure in your session manager you choose KDE4, and you are good to go.
[06:19] <soniker89> let me try it thanks 'z0d14k'
[06:19] <z0d14k> (session manage is alt+s I think.  If not, you will see it on the login screen.
[06:20] <z0d14k> No, alt+s is shut down, but you will see it on your login screen somewhere.
[06:20] <soniker89> it is almost finishing
[06:22] <soniker89> there it want me to select kdm or kdm-kd4
[06:23] <soniker89> I selected KDE4 lates
[06:51] <guido> hi
[06:51] <_2> guido
[06:51] <secludedsage> Is there any deb package of Kubuntu Installer available? I mean have a installer installed in my mobile harddisk as I could install my system on other's computer..
[06:52] <guido> I installed xubuntu-desktop over a kubuntu hardy heron and since I didn't like it very much I uninstalled it but there now are some xfce shortcuts and apps in my kmenu. Any thoughts on how could I remove them?
[06:52] <secludedsage> apt-get autoremove?
[06:52] <guido> I did that, they are still there
[06:53] <proxi> !winrar
[06:53] <proxi> !rar
[06:54] <_2> secludedsage not sure it will work oob   ubiquity is the name
[06:54] <_2> !info ubiquity
[06:54] <secludedsage> ubiquity? Thank you very much!
[06:55] <guido> I have some gnome apps in my kmenu system like gnome-app-install or gnome-system-monitor. Any thoughts on how to remove all of them?
[06:56] <_2> !purekde
[06:56] <_2> guido if you don't want to remove them you can edit your menu
[06:56] <guido> Thanks!
[06:56] <_2> !kmenuedit
[06:56] <_2> !info kmenuedit
[06:56] <z0d14k> guido:  Most systems have some bleedover.  Mine has a lot.  It is by choice.  I like a handful of gnome apps and use them regularly.  There is nothing wrong with it other than they don't looks quite like they fit in.....
[06:57] <guido> Ahh, I see
[06:57] <secludedsage> _2: I don't know how powerful ubottu is...
[06:57] <guido> But doesn't it clutter things up?
[06:57] <_2> secludedsage "it's linux!" enough said.
[06:58] <_2> oh wait   you said ubottu   hehhe i read ubuntu
[06:58] <guido> Because I have the gnome app installer hanging around there and since I'm quite new to kubuntu/debian I'm afraid I might mess things up
[06:59] <_2> guido just run kmenuedit and remove the things you don't want to see.    note it only affects what your user sees not the system
[07:00] <secludedsage> guido: If you hate these things wasting your disk space, as the system is very new, just try a reinstall of the whole system...
[07:01] <guido> does a reinstall erases all my files and configs?
[07:01] <secludedsage> Yes, just try to backup all of them...
[07:02] <secludedsage> In fact, those files won't cost you too much disk space. Just keep use your system with all menu item cleaned and work on with it.
[07:03] <_2> !purekde | once again
[07:04] <_2> !puregnome | if you are of the contrary part
[07:04] <guido> ok, I think I will go with the "removal of unwanted shorcuts" option then :)
[07:05] <guido> thanks a lot to all of you
[07:13] <guido> quick question: is gksu part of kde?
[07:18] <dubby> hey anyone is it possible to use compiz on kubuntu ?
[07:19] <gh> yes
[07:19] <_2> !compiz
[07:19] <_2> guido slow answer no.
[07:20] <gh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[07:20] <guido> _2 thanks :)
[07:20] <_2> guido anything "gtk"  or some times shortened  gk    is gnome
[07:20] <_2> and most things    g.*  are gnome
[07:21] <_2> a few will be gnu   and most will specify that.   gnupg for example
[07:21] <guido> is there any particular reason to install/keep gksu?
[07:21] <_2> not if you are getting rid of gnome
[07:22] <guido> ok
[07:22] <_2> that question sounds like you are configuring  debfoster
[07:22] <_2> !gksu | guido
[07:22] <_2> !kdesu | guido
[07:23] <guido> got it
[07:23] <_2> as you can see one is gnomish the other is k
[07:24] <_2> perhaps the vanella sudo infonode would have been better
[07:24] <_2> !sudo
[07:25] <guido> on a different subject, if I update my kernel to 2.6.24-20 (currently 2.6.24-19) will virtualbox still work?
[07:25]  * _2 is usually still talking after everyone has walked away...   it goes with the age.
[07:26] <_2> guido try it and see.   subversion updates install along side,  so you can boot the older kernel if it doesn't work
[07:26] <_2> same version patches "security updates" overwrite   so that might be a place for caution   but not when the subversion changes
[07:27] <guido> I read that after updating I should do "sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-XXX" to delete the previous kernel
[07:27] <guido> I am thinking.. wouldn't that remove everything from the previous version?
[07:27] <_2> only after you have setteled that you want to keep the newer and remove the older   or vice versa.
[07:28] <_2> and yes it does remove the specified kernel completely
[07:29] <_2> one generally wouldn't want to use a wildcard there      sudo apt-get remove -P linux-image-*      would probably take half the packages with it  and would leave the system without a kernel in a default install.
[07:30] <guido> if I do that command, it would still ask me to check if I'm sure, right?
[07:31] <guido> I mean, before actually removing everything
[07:31] <_2> note that is not unrecoverable ^   as long as one has working network and the system isn't halted   you can still install a kernel and any needed packages.... but it's not the wisest of all moves that would have gotten you there....
[07:31] <_2> and yes it would ask   and probably require you to input   "Yes! do as i say"   before it would continue
[07:33] <_2> i have removed everything down to libc6 and still had things running and some of them usable.   but it's reload time from that point
[07:33] <guido> so in the event that I change my mind at that point, if I say NO I wouldn't have lost anything?
[07:33] <_2> correct
[07:33] <happosade> How to encode and upload videos to iPod
[07:33] <guido> thanks a lot! you have been more than helpfull :)
[07:34] <guido> I apologize if I baby-stepped with all the question but I'm new at this and I really don't feel like reinstalling everything :)
[07:35] <_2> !ipod
[07:35] <_2> !rockbox
[07:35] <me> Is there a hack that supports the microsoft zune yet?
[07:35] <guido> !samba
[07:35] <_2> me not know
[07:37] <guido> brb
[07:38] <me> zune
[07:39] <me> can i zync a zune in linux?
[07:39] <me> can i sync a zune in linux?
[07:40] <me> !zune
[08:27] <MegaBadN> How do you edit the time of the starting when you see "Press ESC to enter in menu"
[08:27] <MegaBadN> or whatever
[08:27] <MegaBadN> It is set to about 10 long seconds
[08:29] <_2> /boot/grub/menu.lst    delay or timeout of something like
[08:29] <_2> yeah edit that file
[08:30] <MegaBadN> okie dokey.
[08:32] <_2> i don't actually have one cause i don't use grub cause i can't use grub cause i don't have any partition.    i would look and see the exact   but you can do that.  it's pretty stright forward.
[08:33] <MegaBadN> alright, how would i map the keyboard
[08:33] <MegaBadN> such as making the windows key do something useful
[08:34] <_2> !khotkeys
[08:34] <_2> !hotkeys
[08:35] <Magnus_H> !asterisk
[08:44] <guido> hey guys, I'm having problems seeing divx movies, for some reason I'm losing fps so it plays as it would on a much slower machine (mine is a dual core 2 with nvidia 8600gt) any thoughts?
[08:45] <amerigo> ! network mesh
[08:45] <amerigo> ! network
[08:45] <guido> !divx
[08:46] <amerigo> ! domain
[08:46] <_2> !dns
[08:47] <amerigo> !domain
[08:47] <amerigo> !domain
[08:48] <_2> amerigo just playing with the bot or do you need something ?
[08:50] <guido> hey guys, I'm having problems seeing divx movies, for some reason I'm losing fps so it plays as it would on a much slower machine (mine is a dual core 2 with nvidia 8600gt) any thoughts?
[08:51] <MegaBadN> what would be something worth using that would compair to nero?
[08:51] <MegaBadN> for both CDs and DVDs
[08:51] <_2> !multimedia  | guido
[08:51] <_2> !botsnack
[08:52] <guido> !multimedia
[08:52] <_2> bot is lagging.
[08:52] <_2> !lag
[08:53] <guido> _2 I have installed the restricted formats and all that but the problem persists
[08:53] <_2> MegaBadN there is a nero for linux i think
[08:53] <MegaBadN> I'm not paying for it.
[08:53] <_2> guido sorry.  maybe someone else's forte
[08:53] <_2> MegaBadN then use k3b and grin at nero :)))
[08:54] <MegaBadN> ok, just apt-get install it?
[08:54] <_2> if you are running kubuntu  you have it
[08:54] <MegaBadN> oh
[08:54] <Magnus_H> Hello! I am trying to join the #asterisk channel, but it says: "You need to be identified to join that channel"?
[08:54] <MegaBadN> I just installed lol
[08:54] <MegaBadN> forgive me.
[08:55] <_2> Magnus_H i'm not part of that team  i can't invire you   ?
[08:55] <jpds> !register |  MegaBadN
[08:55] <jpds> Magnus_H: ^
[08:55] <jpds> MegaBadN: Sorry.
[08:55] <Magnus_H> Aha, thanks !
[08:57] <anthonyb7> HELLO ALL , can any body help me fix this problem in vmare bout 20th time trying to install it
[08:57] <anthonyb7> topping VMware services:
[08:57] <anthonyb7>    Virtual machine monitor                                             done
[08:57] <anthonyb7>    Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0                                   done
[08:57] <anthonyb7>    DHCP server on /dev/vmnet1                                          done
[08:57] <anthonyb7>    Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet1                                 done
[08:58] <anthonyb7>    DHCP server on /dev/vmnet8                                          done
[08:58] <anthonyb7>    NAT service on /dev/vmnet8                                          done
[08:58] <anthonyb7>    Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet8                                 done
[08:58] <anthonyb7>    Virtual ethernet                                                   failed
[08:58] <anthonyb7> Unable to stop services for VMware Server
[08:58] <anthonyb7> Execution aborted.
[08:58] <jussi01> !paste | anthonyb7
[08:59] <anthonyb7> its in my cmd line
[09:00] <_2> so you can pastebin from the console  i do it all the time
[09:00] <anthonyb7> oo k
[09:00] <_2> as to the vmware question    i've never used it
[09:00] <anthonyb7> da**
[09:00] <guido> hey guys, I'm having problems seeing divx movies, for some reason I'm losing fps so it plays as it would on a much slower machine (mine is a dual core 2 with nvidia 8600gt) any thoughts?
[09:06] <guido> hey guys, I'm having problems seeing divx movies, for some reason I'm losing fps so it plays as it would on a much slower machine (mine is a dual core 2 with nvidia 8600gt) any thoughts?
[09:16] <not-alone> what name has russian kubuntu channel?
[09:18] <guido> I'm not sure.. just say hi in russian and the bot will tell you if there's an appropiate channel
[09:18] <not-alone> thanks
[09:18] <not-alone> траляляля
[09:18] <not-alone> русские есть?
[09:18] <not-alone> кубунту
[09:19] <pag> !ru | not-alone
[09:19] <not-alone> thanks very thanks
[09:19] <guido> there you go :)
[09:35] <iveney> hi
[09:36] <guido> hello
[10:13] <Lynoure> How does one change the default background colour on yakuake?
[10:14] <Lynoure> It seems to be white when konsole has handier black.
[10:14] <_2> Lynoure right click it's background > settings > schema
[10:15] <_2> linux colours
[10:16] <Lynoure> _2: Thanks :)
[10:16] <_2> np
[10:16] <_2> oh sorry for the lag.   full pipe
[10:17] <Lynoure> it only stays for the current shell and current yakuake session, I guess?
[10:17] <Lynoure> ah, Use konsole's settings worked the magic :)
[10:17] <Lynoure> ...or not.
[10:18] <_2> right click settings > save default
[10:18] <Lynoure> How blind of me... there was Save as Default
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> yakuake is the nuts :D
[10:18] <Lynoure> :)
[10:18] <Lynoure> ActionParsnip: not sure if it is for me yet... I use cli too much for one hanger to do it for me.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> personally I think it should be standard
[10:18] <Lynoure> But it might help me reduce my irc out of sight more
 But it might help me reduce my irc out of sight more <<< console users know that story too  :)
[10:21] <rofl> what is the 2 letter command for the calculator ?
[10:21] <rofl> i forgot it - again
[10:21] <pag> rofl, wc ?
[10:21] <Magnus_H> When I log in it says: "You have new mail" but I can't find anything in Kmail?
[10:21] <_2> bc ?    dc ?
[10:22] <rofl> pag, yep, that could it be
[10:22] <_2> python  ?
[10:22] <_2> Magnus_H open a konsole and type    Mail
[10:23] <_2> may be system mail
[10:23] <pag> rofl, apparantly _2 was right - it's bc
[10:24] <Magnus_H> Ok, I tought I could reed it in Kmail... I'll install Mail and read it there. Thanks!
[10:24]  * _2 thinks Mail is probably installed.
[10:26]  * ActionParsnip suggests thunderbird
[10:26] <_2> ActionParsnip for system mail ?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> oh, sorry
[10:27] <Magnus_H> Ok, it was a message from cron...
[10:27] <sea> Yum, parsnips.
[10:27] <Magnus_H> It restarted asterisk...
[10:27] <rofl> thx, it's bc. i hope i will remember that someday
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> rofl: alias it to something easier like calc
[10:28] <_2> !info bc | rofl
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> i like the installed size :D
[10:29] <_2> i use bc and units a lot
[10:30] <_2> !info units
[10:31] <rofl> where doe the name bc come from. ie. for what is it the abbrevation ?
[10:32] <sea> Bitesize Calculator
[10:32] <_2> binary calculator    read the man page
[10:32] <rofl> the problem is if i make an alias, i dont know the command again on another sys ;)
[10:32] <sea> (I'm just guessing)
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> how about beasty calc
[10:33] <rofl> (i do have a link on my desktop to wine calc.exe)
[10:34] <_2> rofl you could snake your way around that problem with python
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> !purekde
[10:34] <rofl> _2 - how ?
[10:34] <faeleren> hmm.. nice programm..
[10:34] <_2> why wine calc ?   are the fourteen native calculators not enough ?
[10:35] <pag> _2, really? python seems to suck at counting: 8 / 3 seems to equal to 2...
[10:35] <_2> rofl python     it may not be much of a programming language,  but it makes a heck of a calculator !   </ducks>
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> its fun to chew your cpu with calc apps
[10:36] <_2> pag 8.0 / 3   doesn't.
[10:36] <_2>  you have to put it in float mode
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> do 2 * 2 * 2 *2 ......
[10:36] <pag> _2, yup. but it forces to type two extra charecters – qalc can do without ;)
[10:38] <_2> pag  i'm not a py fan.   just mentioned that it works  and might be easier to remember than bc
[10:39]  * _2 uses bash most of the time for simple things.   echo $((1024*32))
[10:40]  * pag uses qalc for everything, ie. 144^(1/2)
[10:41] <_2> but heck i use echo to edit files too  ;/
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> i use google to calculate stuff
[10:41] <sea> Use tee
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> zero install footprint
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> :D
[10:42] <_2> there ya go.  google math.   something that site actually does for me...
[10:45] <_2> estimated remaining time 6h15m46s updating this system from security updates ....  isn't dialup fun
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> _2: do it overnight while you sleep
[10:46] <_2> and the list isn't very long either.  three lines
[10:47] <sea> _2: I'm on dialup too! Guess what? I downloaded a RO client. :P
[10:48] <Edulix> hi
[10:48] <_2> ActionParsnip do i sleep ?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> _2: yes you do
[10:48] <_2> :)))
[10:51] <sea> Hey, uhm. Anyone know sh scripting?
[10:52] <sea> Oh,nvm I found it.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> ok hehe
[10:53] <Edulix> I've got problems with the kde4 kubuntu ppa repository
[10:53] <Edulix> specifically the kwin-kde4 package doesn't work ¿?
[10:54] <Edulix> apt doesn't want to install it
[10:54] <jussi01> Edulix: please join #kubuntu-kde4 for kd4 support :)
[10:56] <spiroo> does anyone here know what Tvix is?
[10:56] <spiroo> The media streamer?
[10:56] <_2> echo "`echo "yrepib" | tr 'ibryep' 'ptcsri'` this" > sea
[10:57] <Edulix> thanks jussi01
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !tvix
[10:58] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: It is not any app or something in Linux, it is an hardware for streaming media :D
[10:59] <sea> "script this" ?
[10:59] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: Well, I wondering if someone know how to config it to work on the network. I tried before, but I never got it to work. Problem with Samba permissions to folders.
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> spiroo: get its ip address wuld be a start
[11:01] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: It does not work in that direction.  The media streamer get the ip-adress from my folder. But I have the ip-adress too ;)
[11:01] <spiroo> *from my PC :D
[11:02] <_2> sea   i mean yeah,  i know a little.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> spiroo: then ive no idea man, sorry
[11:03] <sea> That was totally brilliant
[11:03] <spiroo> ActionParsnip: Okay, thank you anyway.
[11:10] <sea> Now...how do I tell what the previous command returned? Like 0 or 1 or otherwise?
[11:10] <_2> sea $?
[11:11] <sea> Oh,thanks
[11:11] <_2> sea   true ;echo $? ;false ;echo $?
[11:11] <sea> Brilliant, it works!
[11:11] <_2> of course it works.
[11:12] <sea> I finished my script. :D
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> sweet
[11:14] <_2> me too.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6ae1f57c
[11:18] <_2> sea you might be looking for something like  && ||  in place of $?    i didn't ask what you were going to do with the info.       true && echo yep || echo nope ;false && echo yep || echo nope
[11:19] <sea> The "echo $?" works for what I'm trying to do,though.
[11:22] <_2> sea yeah just mentioning that you can skip testing for exit codes if the reason you want to know them is to do something else conditionally    also the if test works.             if true ;then echo yes ;elif ! false ;then echo yes ;else echo "you'll never see this in the test" ;fi
[11:23] <_2> basicly there is more than one way to remove the epidurmus from a felion
[11:23] <sea> Haha, gotta remember that last
[11:24] <sea> Feline*
[11:24]  * _2 usually says "defur" :)   and yes spelling is not my strong suit
[11:27] <_2> sea i just barely can spell _2 correctly ;/
[11:28] <sea> That's a neat quit message there ^^.
[11:29] <_2> russian ?
[11:29] <sea> It may be japanese. :\ I never did get to learning that.
[11:30] <sea> Isn't there some kind of 'learn japanese' game?
[11:31] <_2> :)
[11:32] <_2> ok if you insist
[11:32] <gflash> Hello
[11:32] <Jucato> (it's .jp)
[11:33] <_2> Jucato  :)
[11:33] <gflash> is it possible to display attached images directly in kmail? i didnt find an option
[11:36] <_2> on laptops is there a way to make them not accept any click from touch ?    i don't want to disable the buttons but the pad itself is really really REALLY! anoying when it grabs a click you don't intend.     ???
[11:37] <_2> i mean all i want the touch pad to do is move the cursor   nothing else
[11:50] <kaminix> Will Intrepid Ibex be KDE 4 by default?
[11:50] <Tm_T> yes
[11:51] <gnumm> !intrepid
[11:53] <_2> dapper was long enough do they really expect us to call that "intrepid" ?      maybe i'll use ibex to refer to it...
[11:56] <joanna> Does anybody know if  its possible to install beryl on kubuntu?
[11:56] <Tm_T> !beryl | joanna
[11:57] <Tm_T> !compiz | joanna
[11:57] <kaminix> It's no KDE 4 Remix then? Will a KDE 3 version be available too?
[11:58] <Tm_T> kaminix: if community does one
[11:58] <kaminix> Isn't it always the community doing Kubuntu?
[11:59] <Tm_T> kaminix: yes, but kubuntu team is doing KDE4 for ibex, so if there is others volunteering for kde3...
[12:00] <kaminix> Okay. Thanks Tm_T
[12:10] <_2> until apt-get -yd dist-upgrade ;do : ;done
[12:24] <ken_> hi
[12:31] <geirhard> #kubuntu-es
[12:34] <myk_robinson> good morning.
[12:34] <myk_robinson> What is considered the "preferred" method for installing Firefox 3 and various plugins in Kubuntu Hardy?
[12:35] <myk_robinson> I ask because with eac hupdate, i have to create a symbolic link from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins in order for my plugins to be found by firefox
[12:35] <myk_robinson> i assume this is not normal?
[12:37] <guido> myk_robinson: not really
[12:37] <guido> myk_robinson: did you try installing it with adept?
[12:38] <myk_robinson> yes.
[12:38] <guido> myk_robinson: what was the result of that?
[12:38] <myk_robinson> i installed the meta package firefox, and then installed things like mozilla-mplayer, flash-nonfreee, etc
[12:38] <myk_robinson> the plugins all install to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins instead of /usr/lib/firefox-3/plugins
[12:39] <myk_robinson> of course, when firefox updates, i now have /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.1/plugins, requiring me to make a new symbolic link
[12:39] <myk_robinson> i can do this just fine, its just annoying based on the previous kubuntu, i didnt have to do this
[12:39] <guido> myk_robinson: let me check how I did it way back when..
[12:40] <guido> myk_robinson: that's odd, I didn't have to do that link
[12:41] <guido> myk_robinson: I'm sorry I wasn't much of a help here
[12:41] <myk_robinson> no prob, at least someone is talking to me this time :)
[12:41] <_2> are dvd's all "multi-session" ?
[12:42] <myk_robinson> just out of curiousity, have you added any repositories for multimedia? I wonder if debian-multimedia is my problem?
[12:43] <guido> myk_robinson: no, plain kosher kubuntu
[12:43] <guido> myk_robinson: if I were you I would try going to #ubuntu.. I'm also over there and there's more people answering questions
[12:44] <myk_robinson> thanks
[12:44] <guido> myk_robinson: perhaps they could give you a hand there :)
[12:45] <EnginA> guys dpkg-reconfigure console-data doesn't change the keyboard layout in the console any idea ?
[12:45] <EnginA> I'm running ubuntu 7.10 image
[12:50] <lebafar> !grub
[12:52] <lebafar> Hod do I set Firefox as my deafult web browser ?
[12:53] <emilsedgh> level1: System Settings->Advanced->Default Applications
[12:55] <lebafar> emilsedgh: what about if I cannot see Defaul Applications on there ? And what is level 1 ?
[12:56] <emilsedgh> oh lebafar, sorry its in general tab
[12:56] <lebafar> oh, ok, no prob, thank you ;)
[13:13] <lebafar> I installed kubuntu on my first particion and grub doesnt recognizes my windows anymore. Could someone help me on this please ?
[13:22] <leba> Could someone help me with grub please ?
[13:23] <ubunturos> leba: post your problem, if someone has a solution to it, he/she will respond
[13:23] <ubunturos> leba: first partition == ?
[13:23] <ubunturos> err.
[13:24] <leba> yes
[13:24] <leba> I installed Kubuntu on my first particion...
[13:24] <leba> Do I have to make map ?
[13:24] <ubunturos> first partition == ? /dev/sda1 ?
[13:24] <ubunturos> leba: where was your windows located ( C: ?)
[13:25] <leba> I am not sure, what does (hd0, 0) means ?
[13:25] <ubunturos> leba: well, that's your first hard disk, and first partition (in that order)
[13:25] <leba> I have three windows installed ;P
[13:25] <ubunturos> leba: omg!
[13:25] <leba> yes... terrible, I know... hahaha...
[13:25] <leba> But now I fell alive !
[13:26] <ubunturos> leba: ok, go ahead, with your problem
[13:26] <leba> ;)
[13:26] <ubunturos> s/with/describe
[13:26] <leba> well, I think I have one windows on particion 5, so I set (hd0, 5)
[13:26] <leba> but it din't work on boot...
[13:27] <leba> I was reading grup help page and it says something about instaling grup/linux on your first partition.
[13:27] <leba> That I have to map and maybe for dos do something else...
[13:27] <ubunturos> leba: Ideally, grub will replace the MBR of Windows, but it'll add entries to boot windows
[13:28] <leba> yes... I don't know why it just disapiered, maybe because I formated part 1 first. :P
[13:28] <ubunturos> leba: I would strongly recommend having just one instance of Windows installed, and install Kubuntu later
[13:29] <ubunturos> leba: and Kubuntu would have to be installed on a different partition, unless you are using Wubi
[13:29] <leba> what's Wubi ?
[13:29] <ubunturos> !wubi | leba:
[13:29] <guido> does anyone know of an app like ratiomaster for linux?
[13:30] <leba> oh, ok..
[13:30] <leba> but I am afraid it's kind of late now..
[13:30] <leba> I just want to boot, cause I forgot to backup :P
[13:30] <ubunturos> leba: hmm, so, what do you see while booting? No menu at all?
[13:30] <ubunturos> leba: you could use the LIVE CD  to take backup
[13:31] <leba> I see the grub menu and I put it on 15 sec hold.
[13:31] <leba> I added a windows option to my /boot/grup/menu.lst menu...
[13:31] <leba> but I this it's work or is not enough yet.
[13:32] <ubunturos> leba: hmm, so where all do you have Windows? (you would have to chainload them)
[13:32] <leba> either I am using false parameters on this line I've added or I have to do something else 'cause I've intalled grub/linux on first partition.
[13:32] <leba> yes...
[13:32] <leba> that's the term, chinload...
[13:32] <leba> probably
[13:33] <ubunturos> leba: yes
[13:33] <MooCows> How would I set my external hard drives for Automounting ?
[13:33] <leba> is there a place where I could paste my menu.lst to you have a look ?
[13:33] <ubunturos> leba: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:33] <leba> ok, I'll be right back.
[13:36] <leba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30271/
[13:37] <guido> does anyone know of an app like ratiomaster but for linux?
[13:37] <leba> The part I added is in between lines 146 and 149
[13:37] <leba> I think I have chainloader set to +1 by the way (which I am not sure waht means)..
[13:38] <ubunturos> leba: what error does it throw when you select to boot Windows?
[13:38] <gnumm> where can i check which daemons are loadedwhen i boot kubuntu?
[13:38] <guido> how can I connect a kubuntu machine to a windows network?
[13:38] <leba> hold a sec please. I will check it again...
[13:39] <ubunturos> gnumm: do you mean services?
[13:39] <gnumm> ubunturos: yes thungs like cpus etc...
[13:40] <ubunturos> gnumm: cpus? You should check, System Settings -> System Services
[13:40] <ubunturos> gnumm: they'll tell you what services are started / or require manual startup at various run-levels
[13:41] <gnumm> ok
[13:41] <leba> ubunturos : it throws an Error 12: Invalid device request. Maybe I am just confused with the (hd0, 5), no ? How do I know with partition I found windows ?
[13:41] <guido> how can I get a kubuntu machine to connect to a windows network group?
[13:41] <leba> guido : I think you may have to use Samba, no ?
[13:42] <ubunturos> leba: at the grub menu, press c
[13:42] <guido> leba: I'm told that's the way to go but I'm lost and don't know how to start
[13:42] <ubunturos> guido | !samba
[13:42] <ubunturos> !samba | less
[13:43] <ubunturos> err.
[13:43] <ubunturos> !samba | guido
[13:43] <ubunturos> leba: are you there? (do you see a prompt " grub>
[13:43] <ubunturos> "
[13:44] <leba> yes
[13:44] <leba> I am on a grub> prompt now..
[13:45] <gnumm> ubunturos: how can edit these services?
[13:45] <gnumm> ubunturos: e.g. i donot want that bluetooth starts
[13:46] <ubunturos> leba: just a min
[13:46] <leba> ok
[13:46] <ubunturos> gnumm: can you see, "Administrator mode" ?
[13:46] <ubunturos> gnumm: the button, I mean
[13:46] <gnumm> ubunturos: oh right :)
[13:46] <ubunturos> leba: type "root (hd0," (without quotes) and then press a tab
[13:47] <ubunturos> leba: there must be a space between "root" and the "("
[13:47] <leba> root (hd0,
[13:47] <ubunturos> leba: when you press a tab, you'll see a list of partitions
[13:47] <ubunturos> leba: yes
[13:47] <leba> just this ?
[13:47] <leba> ok
[13:47] <ubunturos> leba: yes
[13:48] <MrKennie> has anybody else had problems with "wine iexplore"?
[13:48] <MrKennie> crashes for me.
[13:48] <leba> It throws Error 11 : Unrecognized device string
[13:48] <gnumm> ubunturos: which runlevel is the default? when i normally start kubuntu
[13:48] <MooCows> If I was to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , would it download all the extra things it already has ?
[13:49] <ubunturos> gnumm: you can find that by issuing the command "who -r"
[13:49] <ubunturos> gnumm: I'm not sure, if a GUI apps tells you that, though\
[13:49] <ubunturos> leba: oh,
[13:50] <gnumm> ubunturos: thank you, seems to be runlevel 2
[13:50] <ubunturos> leba: hmm, just type, root (hd and then press a tab
[13:50] <ubunturos> leba: just type, "root (hd"  ( without quotes) and then press a tab
[13:51] <gnumm> ubunturos: when i'm done, i just close the window? or can i logout as root?
[13:51] <leba> ubunturus : happens nothing
[13:51] <ubunturos> gnumm: you could just close the window (hitting the OK button, before you do that)
[13:52] <ubunturos> leba: hmm, surprising
[13:52] <leba> ubunturus : I mean the line advances but doesn't show anything
[13:52] <ubunturos> leba: where's windows located? C:\, D:\ ??
[13:52] <gnumm> ubunturos: there is no ok button, but it should work
[13:53] <leba> I think I have it on D: and E:
[13:53] <leba> Nono, E: and F:
[13:53] <ubunturos> leba: and you had set D:\ and E:\ as logical partitions within the extended partition?
[13:53] <ubunturos> leba: and you had set E:\ and f:\ as logical partitions within the extended partition?
[13:54] <ubunturos> gnumm: oh, yeah, sorry.
[13:54] <leba> Mmm, not sure, I didn't touch this partitions. I just formated C: and used some spare 8Gb I had to swap, but that was in the HD final part.
[13:54] <ubunturos> leba: did you have Windows in C:\ ?
[13:55] <leba> Yes, one on it, but I formated it.
[13:55] <ubunturos> prior to format, leba
[13:55] <ubunturos> leba: give me 10 minutes, I'll be back
[13:55] <leba> ok.
[13:55]  * ubunturos asks the channel, in the meanwhile to help leba
[13:55] <leba> maybe I formated my sawp partition of windows.
[13:56] <leba> :P
[14:04] <leba> !grub
[14:06] <ubunturos> leba: did you try anything?
[14:07] <ubunturos> leba: if you can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst then, you should check what are the last few lines
[14:08] <ubunturos> leba: you could do, sudo cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | tail
[14:08] <leba> ubunturos : what you mean about the last few lines ?
[14:09] <ubunturos> leba: that's where, the entries for Windows should be
[14:09] <leba> ubunturus : did you check http://paste.ubuntu.com/30271/ ?
[14:09] <ubunturos> leba: GRUB may not be able to find t the right partition
[14:10] <leba> I am trying to change from (hd0, 5) to (hd0, 6) for example on the grub prompt.
[14:10] <ubunturos> leba: hmm, ok, Check if that works
[14:11] <leba> ubunturos : it doesn't seens to be working though :(
[14:11] <ubunturos> leba: may be they (windows on E: and F: ) depended on the boot records of C:\ for them to boot
[14:11] <ubunturos> leba: hmm
[14:11] <leba> yeah, that's what I am suspected of..
[14:11] <leba> Maybe windows saves the boot register on C: always
[14:12] <leba> and If I format C again ?
[14:12] <ubunturos> leba: C:\ windows, would have had the boot.ini file, which lead to the menu
[14:12] <leba> yeah, probably..
[14:12] <ubunturos> leba: if you format C, keep just one Windows,
[14:12] <leba> I can still find for this file in the other partitions..
[14:12] <ubunturos> leba: and install Kubuntu to an unallocated space
[14:13] <ubunturos> leba: i.e. either delete some partition (taking backup, ofcourse, of data)
[14:13] <leba> ubunturos : are you sure this is the correct file ?
[14:13] <ubunturos> leba: menu.lst, is the one that presents the menu in front of you
[14:13] <leba> ubunturos : I mean the boot.ini
[14:13] <ubunturos> rather, grub would read that file
[14:13] <ubunturos> leba: boot.ini would be used by Windows to give you a boot menu, for booting the triplet :P
[14:14] <ubunturos> leba: when grub took-over, it recognized windows on E: and F:, but surprisingly, it is not booting foryou
[14:14] <leba> If I find a boot.ini in one of the other partitions, maybe I can transfer grub to that of force it to read the boot.ini file somehow..
[14:15] <ubunturos> leba: that would be too much to do
[14:15] <leba> yeah...
[14:15] <leba> :(
[14:16] <leba> But if I lost the boot.ini file I lost windows ?
[14:16] <ubunturos> leba: I would suggest, having only one Windows installed
[14:16] <ubunturos> leba: no, not really.
[14:16] <leba> ubunturus, yes, I was just testing different versions, but I found out xp is the only one I am interested of.
[14:17] <ubunturos> leba: oh
[14:17] <ubunturos> leba: C:\ is usually required for one windows, at-least
[14:17] <leba> yes..
[14:17] <ubunturos> leba: if you have multiple, you'll have the others depend on this one, since, the boot.ini of this would ideally be modified for the others to boot
[14:18] <leba> ubunturus : I read somewhere that I got to do something if I installed Linux on the fist partition (C:)
[14:18] <ubunturos> leba: ideally, you shouldn't have installed Linux on C:\; simply because, Windows loves C:
[14:18] <leba> ubunturus : I will keep reading the grup webpage and see if I find something cool there.
[14:18] <ubunturos> leba: ok
[14:19] <leba> ubunturus ; if you find of keep with it just let me know when you check something interesting please ;)
[14:19] <ubunturos> leba: sur3
[14:19] <ubunturos> err.
[14:19] <ubunturos> leba: sure
[14:19] <leba> ;) ok, thank you !
[14:20] <leba> hope not beeing bothering you :P
[14:20] <ubunturos> leba: no! ... I wonder, why isn't GRUB identifying the Windows installed on E:\ and F:\
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> its not E: and F:
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> its hda1 and hda2 or similar
[14:21] <ubunturos> ActionParsnip: I know, for Windows users, E:\ and F:\ will be so
[14:22] <ubunturos> though
[14:22] <leba> maybe I need some extra parameters...
[14:23] <leba> when I boot from Ubuntu I got a /boot/init.img file...
[14:23] <ubunturos> leba: at the prompt grub>root (hd0,  should give you a list of entries, stating their partition numbers and type
[14:24] <leba> maybe when I boot from windows I have to have a boot.ini path
[14:24] <leba> ubunturos : yeah, strange
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> !grub
[14:25] <leba> ActionParsnip : I am reading it already.
[14:25] <leba> ActionParsnip : maybe I am a fool
[14:25] <leba> haha..
[14:26] <leba> ActionParsnip : I also have my menu.lst pasted on : http://paste.ubuntu.com/30271/ if you want to have a look ;)
[14:26] <paul__> Hi all...
[14:27] <paul__> Anyone in Australia?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> leba: so what does it say if you select the windows boot?
[14:28] <leba> It throws Error 11 : Unrecognized device string
[14:29] <leba> ActionParsnip, I used to have one windows copy on C: and I installed Kubuntu on C:
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> leba: check prosen's post http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/30040-chainloading-grub.html
[14:30] <leba> We were discussing about having lost the boot.ini file when I formated this partition
[14:31] <ubunturos_> leba: and essentially, your C:\ got converted to /dev/sda1
[14:31] <ubunturos_> leba: (hd0, 0) for grub
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> leba: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/booting-windows-from-grub-577176/
[14:31] <cedric5200> Hi !
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> leba: make sure you reference the right disk
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> use sudo fdisk -l to check
[14:32] <ubunturos_> and leba, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Chainloading_Windows_the_simple_way might help too
[14:33] <ubunturos_> leba: from there, "The default Windows method for multibooting is to copy the new installation's vital files needed for booting into an older, existing Windows installation in a primary partition"
[14:38] <ubunturos> btw, leba, where are you from?
[14:38] <leba> ok, thank you guys from now. I think I will have to go deep on this... so I will be arround reading. Anything new just let me know if you hold with me.
[14:38] <leba> ubunturus : Brazil, you ?
[14:38] <ubunturos> leba: India
[14:38] <leba> ubunturus : why do you ask ?
[14:38] <ubunturos> leba: just curious.
[14:38] <leba> ubunturus : did you recognize my strangenership ?
[14:39] <leba> hahaha .. ;)
[14:40] <ubunturos> leba: no, nothing like that.
[14:41] <leba> ubunturus : ok, just kidding. ;)
[14:42] <ubunturos> leba: just one more thing, You seem to be typing the full nick, instead, you could just type ubun and press a tab, to auto-complete
[14:44] <leba> ubunturos : maybe it's not available on the irc client I am using... Or I have to set it...
[14:45] <ubunturos> leba: which IRC client are you using?
[14:45] <leba> ubunturus : X-Chat Aqua on MacOS
[14:46] <ubunturos> leba: oh, ok. I haven't used it ever, so can't comment
[14:46]  * ActionParsnip uses pidgin
[14:47] <leba> ubunturus : I just checked the Tab-Key Completion from my Preferences menu ;)
[14:48] <leba> ubunturos, but I got lots of ubu... hahaha
[14:48] <leba> pidgin is Linux or Unix ?
[14:48] <ubunturos> leba: hehe :) Anyways, I won't disturb you further.
[14:48] <ubunturos> leba: Pidgin is available for Linux and Windows too
[14:49] <ubunturos> leba: you might want to use "Konversation" that comes bundled with Kubuntu!
[14:49] <cg__> ciao a tutti
[14:49] <ubunturos> tutti?
[14:49] <cg__> chi mi puo aiutare in questo problema:
[14:49] <leba> italian
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> leba: runs on LOADS of systems
[14:49] <Pici> !it
[14:49] <cg__> ok english
[14:50] <cg__> i have a problem with my ubuntu
[14:50] <cg__> I used dpkg --configure -a
[14:50] <cg__> after I received this:
[14:51] <cg__> dpkg: errore di formato, nel file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0008' vicino alla riga 2 pacchetto `libc6':
[14:51] <gnumm> i use kubuntu 8.04 with kde3
[14:51] <cg__> `triggers-pendi' non è consentito per la terza parola nel campo `status' (status)
[14:51] <gnumm> i heard i will not be able to dist-upgrade to the next version
[14:51] <gnumm> ?
[14:51] <ubunturos> gnumm: hmm, may be you need KDE 4.0 for that, since,8.10 is likely to come installed with KDE 4.1
[14:52] <cg__> I found 3 file with warning
[14:52] <cg__> and I cannot install or update nothing
[14:52] <gnumm> will kde be better supported by ubuntu in the future? i heard some interesting interviews about mark sh..
[14:53] <cg__> ???
[14:54] <cg__> nowboby can help me??
[14:54] <dr_Willis> Ive no  idea why you wouldent be able to dist upgrade.
[14:54] <cg__> have 3 error files
[14:54] <dr_Willis> I cant read that error message enough in whatever language its is.. to be able to tell.
[14:55] <cg__> KDe files
[14:56] <cg__> if I use aptitude it's tell me to remove rhis files but when I try to remove its I can't
[14:59] <cg__> thanks verry much for help
[15:03] <rbrunhuber> where does dpkg backup config files before overwriting them?
[15:06] <cg__> dpkg was intrerupted,you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[15:08] <BooVeMan_work> hi guys - someone is able to confirm if 8.10 will still feature kde3? and if it will be posible NOT to istall kde4?
[15:10] <pag> BooVeMan_work, afaik it will still feature kde3, for the latter I'm not sure if it's decided yet..
[15:10] <ol_dude67> whats the easiest way to install realplayer or winamp ?
[15:11] <BooVeMan_work> pag: What bothers me (big time) is that the relade notes for the alph3 state that they will use .kde and not .kde4 - so no downgrade would be possible
[15:11] <pag> ol_dude67, there's linux version of real player. for winamp use wine ;)
[15:12] <BooVeMan_work> ol_dude67: use amarok
[15:12] <ol_dude67> um i use amarok
[15:12] <Pici> BooVeMan_work: #ubuntu+1 would be the proper place to address Intrepid questions
[15:12] <ol_dude67> have a friends page says needs realplayer...
[15:13] <ol_dude67> linux version of realplayer is a .bin file..how do install it?
[15:13] <BooVeMan_work> ol_dude67: just install the extra-codecs and amafok will pla rm
[15:13] <blkdragon> better scoot, have a good day
[15:13] <Jucato> BooVeMan_work: those issues will be ironed out in the days to come. what's certain though is that 1. KDE 4 will be the default. 2. KDE 4 will be using .kde instead of .kde4 (and KDE 3 will probably be using .kde3) and 3. there will still be KDE 3 packages
[15:15] <BooVeMan_work> Jucato: right - thanks for clearing that up - so I?ll tar.gz my kde --- and after upgrading - ciao kde4 :-)
[15:32] <mary1232346522> ciao
[15:32] <mary1232346522> !list
[15:36] <whatetch> i have an error log file on aremote server i want to send to myself using sendmail, how would i attatch it or output the contents to the email's body?
[15:37] <BooVeMan_work> whatetch: do you have ssh access - if so its eseir to scp the file
[15:37] <genii> whatetch: I just answered that in the other channel you asked it in
[15:39] <whatetch> genii: thanks
[16:00] <afeijo> how to unpack a .tar.gz file? tar -xzvf isnt working
[16:01] <BooVeMan_work> afeijo: error?
[16:01] <afeijo> none
[16:02] <BooVeMan_work> afeijo: tar.gz empty?
[16:02] <afeijo> ops, now it worked, funny.  Cant I use *? I need to specify each .tar.gz file?
[16:04] <afeijo> time to lunch! Thanks BooVeMan_work :)
[16:22] <peolo> dio santo
[16:24] <Jucato> !it | peolo
[16:28] <AMDpenguin> will i notice a difference in speed getting 2GBS of ram from 1GB?
[16:30] <mits> hi... i have a laptop with bluetooth, which is only recognized if i load a module for omnibook/toshiba laptops, or if i boot into windows, then reboot into kubuntu...any ideas why the latter happens? or if i could get my bluetooth working without the additiional module?
[16:32] <leba> what is the difference between sda and sdb ?
[16:32] <mits> AMDpenguin: actually there's not much difference between my years old athlon 64/1gb ram desktop and my core2/ 2gb ram laptop
[16:32] <mits> leba: they're seperate disks
[16:33] <AMDpenguin> cuz athlons are better =)
[16:33] <mits> lol :)
[16:34] <leba> mits : and what means s d a ?
[16:34] <_CrashMaster_> Scsi Disk A
[16:34] <leba> mits : system disk a
[16:34] <AMDpenguin> Im about to build a new Computer with a phenom cpu
[16:34] <leba> oh.. ok, thank you.
[16:35] <Jucato> leba: scsi. although the latest kernels name both scsi and non-scsi (IDE) as sda, sdb, etc. (before IDE drives would be hda, hdb, etc)
[16:35] <_CrashMaster_> AMDpenguin: Avoid the Phenom. It's garbage.
[16:35] <mits> so is there any relation between scsi and sata? or they just used the same letter?
[16:35] <Jucato> processor discussion -> #kubuntu-offtopic please
[16:36] <leba> Jucato : are you great at grub by any chance ?
[16:36] <Jucato> leba: not really "great"...
[16:37] <Jucato> leba: if you have a question, it's best to address the whole channel rather than one person
[16:37] <leba> Jucato : Ok, thank you!
[17:00] <leba> !samba
[17:27] <hatman> hi all !!
[17:28] <hatman> I'm trying to configure my ati to dual-head but it only work before I login to KDE... Then my other screen is set as a clone and not as dual. Any idea ?
[17:29] <hatman> I followed this procedure using aticonfig tool: http://www.revis.co.uk/site/?q=node/198
[17:29] <hatman> the testing using xinit work also well ! the problem only come when I'm logged to KDE :-(
[17:36] <Harakiri> does anyone have a Samsung 4500p keyboard here?
[17:37] <maybe> hi all
[17:37] <artur_> Hello! Supposing that I want a command like ' mount ... ' to be executed everytime when the linux is  booted. I remember that i should write this command in a file, that has many others commands to be executed in the boot.  What file is this?
[17:40] <hatman> artur_: /etc/init.d/rc.local
[17:40] <jabba> anyone care to take a bet on whether evolution can run for a week without crashing?
[17:41] <artur_> hatman: Thanks buddy!
[17:41] <hatman>  artur_: I think in this file will be better /etc/rc.local
[17:41] <genii> Just /etc/rc.local    The init.d script looks there
[17:43] <artur_> hatman: ok, i saw that in my /etc/rc.local the only line that isn't commented is a line ' exit 0'
[17:45] <hatman> artur_: yup, just add your script before the exit 0
[17:45] <artur_> hatman: ok, thank you man!
[17:47] <genii> artur_: The exit 0   needs to be on it's own line as the last thing in the file
[17:50] <artur_> genii: ok! thanks for advice!
[17:51] <genii> np
[18:29]  * genii makes a pot of coffee to keep all the helpers alert for when the problems start pouring in
[18:30] <athlonkaempfer> Abend!
[18:31] <genii> !de
[18:49] <nalaka> hello, I just installed kubuntu-desktop meta package. The menus look cluttered. How can Gnome be safetly disabled?
[18:50] <jussi01> !purekde | nalaka
[18:50] <genii> Thats for completely removing it, just so you know
[18:50] <genii> Not just disabling it temporarily for instance
[18:51] <nalaka> thanks. I will follow that.
[18:55] <CapitalT_> Hi, I have a widescreen and am using the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver. Can anyone tell me how to stop it from stretching the screen on non-widescreen resolutions?
[18:56] <CapitalT_> (there is no BIOS setting for that)
[19:00] <pag> CapitalT_, adding the desired resolutions to /etc/xorg.conf might do the trick
[19:02] <CapitalT_> I can use all the resolutions, that's not the problem. The problem is when a game use a non-widescreen resolution (like 800x600) the screen is stretched horizontally.
[19:03] <CapitalT_> I can make it center the output on the widescreen in windows
[19:04] <CapitalT_> so it looks like this BLACK|CONTENT|BLACK
[19:04] <Armagguedes> hello
[19:06] <wisenuts> need some help trying to set up linuxmce...can't seem to get the video going
[19:06] <wisenuts> got the nvidia drivers
[19:07] <wisenuts> still bombing on me when i start kdm
[19:07] <Armagguedes> i'm trying to get ktorrent to save files to a partition mounted as /share/ (in /share/downloads/), which has 777 permissions, but it says "cannot create <wtv>; no such file or directory". What gives?
[19:07] <wisenuts> chown
[19:08] <wisenuts> ARM what filesystem
[19:20] <wisenuts> no one talks
[19:20] <recon> Is there a volume control toolbar or anything of the sort in KDE4?
[19:20] <wisenuts> try googlein it
[19:21] <wisenuts> kmix it think
[19:22] <recon> Ah. Only widgets seem to show up in the "add to toolbar" so I couldn't find it.
[19:22] <recon> Thanks.
[19:22] <wisenuts> word
[19:23] <wisenuts> what video card u runnin
[19:23] <xeno99> ﻿﻿Hi. I'm using Amarok with an Sony Walkman (MTP) and, when I transfer, it puts each mp3 file into a separate folder rather than making folders of artist/album and grouping mp3s under the album as they are arranged normally. Anyone know how to resolve that?
[19:24] <jackault> Why is scrolling so slow on firefox? also any swf or flash files run really slow
[19:24] <tackat> jackault: nvidia?
[19:25] <Armagguedes> wisenuts, ext3
[19:25] <athlonkaempfer> tschüß
[19:26] <wisenuts> check ownership
[19:26] <wisenuts> ls -al
[19:26] <wisenuts> then chown it
[19:27] <Armagguedes> drwxrwxrwx  11 root root  4096 2008-03-31 02:13 share
[19:27] <wisenuts> thats why
[19:27] <wisenuts> do a chown username:username folder
[19:29] <Armagguedes> wisenuts could you explain a bit more?
[19:29] <jackault> tackat: yes indeed I'm using an nvidia geforce 2 MX
[19:29] <wisenuts> right now root owns :share"
[19:30] <tackat> jackault: binary drivers?
[19:30] <wisenuts> you need to take owner ship to have full control
[19:30] <jackault> tackat: old machine
[19:30] <xeno99> ﻿﻿Hi. I'm using Amarok with an Sony Walkman (MTP) and, when I transfer, it puts each mp3 file into a separate folder rather than making folders of artist/album and grouping mp3s under the album as they are arranged normally. Anyone know how to resolve that?
[19:30] <jackault> tackat: yeah I chose to install the proprietary drivers, those are binary right?
[19:30] <wisenuts> tryin to run linuxmce an a new mobo
[19:30] <wisenuts> closed source from nvidia
[19:31] <tackat> jackault: yes, try the open ones and follow the greedy advice: http://liquidat.wordpress.com/ :)
[19:31] <tackat> jackault: that might fix your problems :)
[19:32] <tackat> jackault: (what applies to KDE 4.1 will likely apply to firefox 3.0 as well in this case)
[19:32] <Armagguedes> so, chown root:myusername /share/ ?
[19:33] <wisenuts> no sudo chown myusername:myusername /share
[19:34] <Armagguedes> thanks
[19:34] <wisenuts> did that work?
[19:35] <Armagguedes> lemme check
[19:36] <Armagguedes> no
[19:37] <Armagguedes> how do i do it recursively  for all folders in /share/?
[19:38] <wisenuts> no sudo chown -R myusername:myusername /share
[19:39] <Armagguedes> same thing
[19:39] <Armagguedes> cannot create
[19:40] <wisenuts> did you do sudo chmod -R 777 /share/
[19:40] <wisenuts> ?
[19:40] <helpy> ok, after installing ubuntu literally 21 times while trying to back up my ubuntu, i have decided back up is not for me. so is there a way i can get a list of all the packages i have installed in ubuntu including the ones that came with distro to make sure i installed all packages in my new ubuntu? atleast its some sort of back up
[19:41] <helpy> i might be able to write a script to install all these packages if i screw up agian
[19:41] <Armagguedes> did it
[19:41] <Armagguedes> didn't work
[19:41] <wisenuts> wtf
[19:41] <Armagguedes> helpy, try APTonCD
[19:42] <wisenuts> sudo mkdir test inside the /share
[19:42] <helpy> Armagguedes,  i have. it only installs the NEW packages
[19:42] <helpy> doesn't install current packages
[19:42] <helpy> plus i can't add more packages once done the back up. it doesn't help with incremental stuff
[19:43] <jussi01> !clone | helpy
[19:43] <wisenuts> mmmmm automate
[19:43] <helpy> no way!!!!
[19:43] <helpy> let me do it right away.
[19:43] <jussi01> :)
[19:44] <helpy> first i have to type dpkg --get-selections in terminal ?
[19:44] <jussi01> helpy: with the rest
[19:44] <leba> I think the rule is : if you use windows, keep it on the first partition. Am I right ?
[19:44] <jussi01> helpy: dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[19:45] <helpy> i have to type this full command ?
[19:45] <jussi01> helpy: yep, jusat copy paste
[19:45] <helpy> nothing happened ?
[19:45] <helpy> have to go to home now ?
[19:45] <Armagguedes> wisenuts done, its ownership is set to root:root
[19:45] <helpy> and see if its there
[19:45] <jussi01> helpy: yes, it createda file called my-packages
[19:45] <jussi01> helpy: yep
[19:45] <leba> Is there anybody here which uses windows and ubuntu by any chace ?
[19:45] <jussi01> leba: me
[19:46] <helpy> yep leba
[19:46] <helpy> by the jussi01  i can't find my-packages in home
[19:46] <leba> do you have problems with grep ?
[19:46] <wisenuts> try one as yourseld
[19:46] <leba> do you keep windos running on first partition ?
[19:46] <wisenuts> mkdir test1
[19:46] <helpy> huh ?
[19:47] <jussi01> helpy: are you sure you ran the full cammand?
[19:47] <helpy> yep
[19:47] <helpy> do i have to be sudo ?
[19:47] <wisenuts> always
[19:47] <Armagguedes> done
[19:47] <helpy> dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages <== thats the cmd right ?
[19:47] <helpy> i am sudo
[19:47] <Armagguedes> ownership is mune
[19:47] <Armagguedes> mine.
[19:48] <wisenuts> what program can't write to the dir then/
[19:48] <leba> helpy, ?
[19:48] <leba> jussi01, ?
[19:48] <helpy> leba,  ?
[19:48] <wisenuts> premissions look good
[19:48] <helpy> i have no idea
[19:49] <leba> helpy, do you use windows on your first partition ?
[19:49] <helpy> there is no such thing as my-package in home
[19:49] <tackat> jackault: any improvement?
[19:49] <helpy> yep
[19:49] <jussi01> helpy: yes
[19:49] <Armagguedes> ktorrent
[19:49] <helpy> what jussi01 ?
[19:49] <leba> helpy, mmmm...
[19:49] <wisenuts> is this an smb share, partition or disk?
[19:49] <jussi01> [21:47:48] <helpy> dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages <== thats the cmd right ?
[19:49] <jussi01> not sudo
[19:49] <Armagguedes> partition on the OS's disk
[19:50] <helpy> dude you are confusing me
[19:50] <helpy> its not working
[19:50] <jussi01> helpy: it works here
[19:51] <helpy> whats wrong here then /
[19:51] <helpy> ?
[19:51] <helpy> i am sudo here
[19:51] <jussi01> helpy: copy-paste that exactly: dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[19:51] <helpy> i did
[19:51] <jussi01> helpy: dont be sudo!!!
[19:51] <stdin> helpy: you sure it's not working, there should be a new file called "my-packages" in your home directory
[19:51] <helpy> no ?
[19:51] <leba> If I formated the c: partition, how can I ever boot to another windows partition using grub ?
[19:51] <helpy> file or directory ?
[19:51] <stdin> file
[19:52] <helpy> no its not there
[19:52] <jussi01> helpy: did you run it wothout sudo?
[19:53] <helpy> yep
[19:53] <helpy> now i am running without it
[19:53] <helpy> ok got it
[19:53] <helpy> now what ?
[19:53] <Armagguedes> wisenut as far as i know/remember it's the only app which can't right to it
[19:53] <Armagguedes> i'll try later on something like Transmission
[19:54] <jussi01> !clone
[19:54] <helpy> !automate
[19:55] <jussi01> helpy: copy the file tothe new machine
[19:55] <helpy> i am using it as a back up option
[19:55] <helpy> i don't have a new machine
[19:55] <jussi01> helpy: then: sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[19:55] <jussi01> helpy: so copy the file to a usb disk or whatever
[19:55] <jussi01> once you reinstall, then do what I just said
[19:56] <helpy> reinstall!! *shudders*
[19:56] <helpy> strike 22
[19:56] <helpy> hehe
[19:57] <helpy> jussi you know what does your nick means in my language ?
[20:00] <jussi01> helpy: what?
[20:00] <helpy> all packages that are listed can also be installed by creating a sudo install packagename $$ sudo install packagename2 too right ?
[20:00] <helpy> iron
[20:00] <helpy> jussi means iron :)
[20:00] <jussi01> ok
[20:00] <helpy> you are iron solid when it comes to linux
[20:00] <helpy> :D
[20:00] <helpy> can i try this restore on this machine right now ?
[20:00] <helpy> although it would probably tell me all packages are installed
[20:01] <BooVeMan_work> helpy: bet so
[20:01] <jussi01> anyway, helpy: once you have the my-packages file on the "new/reinstalled" machine, you run: sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[20:02] <helpy> !clone
[20:02] <helpy> hmm ok
[20:02] <helpy> let me try
[20:02] <helpy> file has to be in home for that ?
[20:03] <jussi01> helpy: where ever you run the command from
[20:03] <helpy> it would locate file where ever it is ?
[20:04] <jussi01> no, it needs to be in the same directory as you are when you run that command...
[20:04] <helpy> cool just checked it
[20:04] <helpy> worked like charm.
[20:04] <jussi01> :)
[20:04] <helpy> lets see when doi screw up my comp to check it next time
[20:04] <helpy> :D
[20:04] <vit> no se como instalar firerefox 3.0 en mi ordenador
[20:06] <BooVeMan_work> !spanish > vit
[20:06] <helpy> vit if its spanish #ubuntu-es
[20:06] <vit> no es kubutu
[20:07] <helpy> jussi01,  do you know a converter for flv files ?
[20:07] <helpy> i can't find a good converter with GUI in linux
[20:07] <helpy> whats the problem vit ?
[20:07] <BooVeMan_work> helpy: learn to use the comnsole - ffmpeg is your friend
[20:07] <jussi01> !flv | helpy, ubottu knows :D
[20:07] <vit> me dice que ya esta instalado pero no pasa nada
[20:08] <helpy> i know how to use console. but mencoder and ffmpeg is just too much
[20:08] <jussi01> helpy: try avidemux though, I think that does it
[20:08] <BooVeMan_work> vit - aqui preiemro se trata de kubuntu y segundo solo ingles
[20:08] <vit> sigue teniendo el mismo formato de firefox anterior
[20:08] <helpy> only flv or more formats too ?
[20:08] <jussi01> helpy: vlc may as well
[20:08] <jussi01> helpy: more
[20:08] <helpy> i have vlc installed it converts too
[20:09] <jussi01> helpy: yes, throught the wizard
[20:09] <BooVeMan_work> !es | vit
[20:18] <edju> Where's that configuration screen that tells this laptop what to do when the lid is shut?  I forgot.
[20:22] <BluesKaj> edju: system settings/advanced/session manager
[20:25] <dorins> BluesKaj: I don't see anything like that in session manager.
[20:25] <dorins> edju:  I use guidance-power-manager to set what happens on lid close
[20:30] <BluesKaj> dorins: , edju , whynot just shutdown like one does on a desktop ..then no worries
[20:30] <helpy> how does vlc wizard work ?
[20:33] <dorins> BluesKaj: easier to just close the lid to get it to automatically suspend to ram :)
[20:35] <edju> Nothing shows in session manager.
[20:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> help, i am at a p'lace with a wireless connection, i just isntalled kubuntu on a friend's laptop but when  i brought it here ti didn't automatically connect to the internet, what do  i have to do? i have the laptop beside me
[20:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> i already got the password for the wifi but i don't know how to set up the wireless card/network etc
[20:36] <helpy> did you go through wireless setup ?
[20:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> nope, i just isntalled it last night
[20:36] <helpy> hmm
[20:36] <helpy> did you google it ?
[20:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i haven't ever set up the wireless
[20:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes but i don't get it, i don't see a knetwork manager
[20:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> under system
[20:37] <helpy> hang on
[20:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> if you could give me a link and maybe walk me through any doubts i'd mucha ppreciate
[20:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> thank you helpy
[20:37] <helpy> save it :)
[20:37] <alanx> CostaRicanQuaker: have you tried the command iwconfig
[20:37] <helpy> http://thelinuxnewbie.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-wifi-wireless-c_115515845577896146.html
[20:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> alanx: should i go t o the terminal adn do that?
[20:38] <alanx> CostaRicanQuaker: yes
[20:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok i'm going to dco that and i'll brb
[20:41] <edju> Nothing shows in session manager, and I show no guidance-power-manager package.
[20:42] <edju> OK - found it - click the battery icon.
[20:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> alanx: lo no wireless extensions and eth0  no wireless extensions
[20:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i check the computer it  is, like the model adn stuff
[20:43] <alanx> CostaRicanQuaker: and what it says about eth1, or there is not an eth1 device
[20:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> no eth1 device listed
[20:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> helpy: this page lists adept, i have no connection yet...so i don't think
[20:46] <helpy> hmm
[20:46] <helpy> did you go through help file in kubuntu ?
[20:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> i don't mean to  be a pain in the ass, you see, i am just helping a friend switching over to linux, when i installed kubuntu on mine i had a cable connection a dn didnt have to do any of this
[20:47] <helpy> yes wifi can be problem
[20:47] <helpy> and i would love to convert one more guy to linux.
[20:47] <helpy> but i guess there is a very good detail in help file
[20:47] <helpy> try it.
[20:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> i just opened help on kubuntu
[20:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> what should i look for?
[20:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> under the help
[20:48] <helpy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52186
[20:48] <helpy> wifi
[20:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok brb
[20:51] <alanx> CostaRicanQuaker: are you shure the laptop has wireless
[20:51] <helpy> hehe nice question alanx
[20:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> alanx: how do i check if the laptop has wireless?
[20:52] <helpy> see the guide that came along with hardware
[20:53] <alanx> what is the brand of the machine
[20:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> toshiba
[20:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> satelite
[20:53] <alanx> has centrino technology?
[20:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> l45-sp4016
[20:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> L45-SP4016*
[20:56] <epimeth> hi guys...
[20:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> helpy: so based on what i read on the website you gave me i should do sudo ifconfig -a
[20:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?
[20:57] <epimeth> has anybody ever compiled apache1.3 with mod_ssl?
[20:57] <epimeth> on a 64bit system?
[20:59] <helpy> yep
[20:59] <helpy> try watever is given there
[20:59] <helpy> i have no idea why it is not detecting the network
[21:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> helpy: ok so i entered that command and it listed two things, since it's on a laptop other than this comuter please bear with me as i have to go write it down
[21:04] <helpy> ok
[21:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> eth0: link encap: hwaddr:00:la:92:99:86:ff Up broadcast multicast MTU: 1500 Metric: 1 Rx Packets: all 0 TTX packets: all 0 RT/XT bytes all 0
[21:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> lo link encap: local loopback inet addr: 127.0:0.1 Mask: 255:.0.0.0 inet addr:  ::1/128 Scope: host
[21:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> Up loopback running MTU 16436 Metric: 1
[21:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> so what do i do now?
[21:12] <helpy> hmm
[21:12] <helpy> no idea
[21:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> what is essid?
[21:13] <see-g> the name the network shows up with
[21:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i check for that see-g?
[21:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> with what command do i get the essid
[21:14] <see-g> "iwconfig" should give you the essid if you're connected to a wireless network
[21:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> lo and eth0 no wireless extensions
[21:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> thats the output i get from that command see-g
[21:15] <see-g> you're connected via cable, right?
[21:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> no, i am at an ngo where we have a wireless conexion
[21:16] <see-g> do you have access to the router's configuration?
[21:16] <see-g> oh, ok
[21:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> i installed kubuntu on my friends computer and i want to connct to it
[21:16] <see-g> eth0 is your wireless thingy?
[21:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> i don't know...apparently the computer comes with wireless card
[21:17] <see-g> "sudo iwlist <wireless device> scan" should give you all the wireless networks in range
[21:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> with the brackets and all?
[21:18] <see-g> oh, and there's something called knetworkmanager - it works for some, in my specific case it did not, so I did not bother learning how to use it
[21:18] <kakaka>  Simple question-is the distribution for the ps3 stable yet? if not which should  i get?
[21:18] <see-g> no, you'd replace <wireless device> with eth0 or eth1 or wlan0
[21:18] <see-g> iwconfig would show you which device is capable of wireless connections
[21:19] <genii> possibly ath0
[21:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> eth0  interface doesn't support scanning
[21:19] <see-g> Linux's naming convention on wireless devices is not ... let's call it consistent ... yet
[21:19] <Guiri> hehe plasma died
[21:19] <Guiri> Hmm
[21:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> see-g: what does that output mean
[21:20] <see-g> that means what it says - for one reason or another, the wireless card does not support scanning
[21:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> so there IS  a wireless card!...?
[21:21] <see-g> I don't know, I assumed there is because you are talking about connecting to a wireless network
[21:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> well  i am on a wireless network but this particular laptop, my friend's doesn't have a conexion
[21:22] <see-g> do you know if your friend's laptop has a wifi card?
[21:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i check? apparently google says it comes with it
[21:22] <see-g> my best bet would be "lspci | grep -i wireless
[21:23] <dionet> hello, is there anyone that knows how to get microphone working on hda-intel?
[21:23] <Guiri> Anybody try RC1 yet?
[21:24] <see-g> lspci: list all known PCI devices (known to the kernel, not to you ;)); |: pipe lspci's output to grep; grep -i wireless: filter lspci's output for wireless (-i: case-insensitive)
[21:27] <ed__> I'm using WUBI Kubuntu Hardy on my mom's computer.  A couple of unexplained freezes I attribute to using NTFS as a base file system, but still less aggravating than Windows.
[21:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> see-g: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: atheros communications inc AR24x 802. llabg wireless PCI Express adapter (rev 01)
[21:28] <BluesKaj> ed__: layered on XP or Vista ?
[21:28] <ed__> XP.
[21:29] <justs0me> is there a way to have it so that when i right click on the desktop i have an option to open a terminal (konsole) in the menu that pops up?
[21:29] <ed__> Anyway, one strangeness that is vexing.  Directories are not listed at the top of konqueror, just alphabetically.  That isn't a behavior I've seen in KDE before.  Is this a known issue with WUBI or Kubuntu?
[21:30] <BluesKaj> one still has a grub menu at bootup with wubi installed linux , why not just transfer to an ext partition and dual boot
[21:30] <Ayabara> any good sw for working with Sony Ericsson mobile phones, or should I just use Konqueror/Dolphin?
[21:30] <see-g> CostaRicanQuaker: great, at least we know for sure that the laptop supports wifi
[21:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> so what's next?
[21:31] <see-g> do you know if there are any other network cards up and running?
[21:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> see-g: i certainly don't how do i check for that?
[21:32] <see-g> ifconfig displays all the known network interfaces
[21:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok i'll be right abck i'm going to take my friend and his latop to my house
[21:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> where there's a cable connexion
[21:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> and hopefuñlly y'all might helop me install the drivers for it
[21:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[21:33] <see-g> ideally, yours should give you "lo" (the loopback interface - a trick to establish secure network connections to your own computer); "eth0" (I'm just guessing: the cable connection) and a third one for the wireless
[21:33] <see-g> good luck
[21:34] <ed__> Also, every time I open a new file management tab I get icon view, but I don't have much use for, generally.  I have to manually change it to use TreeView.  Saving the File Management Profile with TreeView enabled doesn't seem to change this behavior.  A bit odd.
[21:34] <ed__> Minor annoyances, I just thought someone might have encountered them.
[21:35] <BluesKaj> ed__:  most members use a dedicated partition for linux , so trying to recreate those anoyances might be hard to track
[21:38] <ed__> I figured as much, BluesKaj.
[21:38] <ed__> I do, too, when I'm at home, but I'm visiting my mother.
[21:40] <marco_> ciao a tutti
[21:40] <diego_> hi again
[21:40] <ed__> The TreeView annoyance wouldn't be some irritating if Kubuntu didn't make you hold the "profile" button for a couple of seconds before giving you a choice of view options.  Most KDE distros don't do that, they have seperate buttons you can add to toolbars for different view options.
[21:41] <diego_> digo hola.... jajjaa
[21:41] <marco_> ma ci sono gli italiani
[21:41] <marco_> ?
[21:41] <diego_> alguien habla español?!..............................
[21:41] <diego_> io non parlo italiano... jejeje
[21:41] <BluesKaj> '!it
[21:41] <BluesKaj> !es
[21:41] <BluesKaj> !it
[21:41] <diego_> gracias
[21:41] <ed__> One thing I do like is the Quick Launch thingy in the panel.  I wonder how to get that in other distros.  I tend to use Debian at home.
[21:42] <ed__> Quick Launcher
[21:46] <see-g> could someone do me a favor? When the CostaRicanQuaker comes back, could you point him to this site? http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo#CreatinganInterface
[21:47] <see-g> it is, as far as I can tell, where he could go on
[21:48] <see-g> (anyway, I never got in touch with the madwifi-thingy, Ubuntu comes with madwifi, doesn't it?)
[21:48] <alanx> see-g: I was talking with CostaRicanQuaker and his laptop has a wireless card intel 3945
[21:49] <alanx> but the system didn't recognize that card
[21:50] <alanx> see-g: the command iwconfig didn't show any wireless card
[21:51] <see-g> his friend's laptop seems to have something atheros-based; all I could find about it was that madwifi -sometimes- supports those natively
[21:51] <see-g> [22:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> see-g: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: atheros communications inc AR24x 802. llabg wireless PCI Express adapter (rev 01)
[21:51] <see-g> that's what he gave me when I asked for lspci | grep wireless
[21:53] <see-g> now there's two and a half ways to go ... 1/2) it's one of those that don't work with HAL up to ... uhmm ... I don't know if Ubuntu ships with a hal that supports it or not 1) madwifi supports it natively 2) ndiswrapper works wonders on most of the rest
[21:58] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering if anyone could quickly teach me how to use the equation editor in OpenOffice?
[21:59] <bdizzle> or somehow get it to use LaTeX commands in my document
[22:00] <BooVeMan_work> bdizzle: try #openoffice.org
[22:00] <bdizzle> thanks
[22:03] <brmassa> guys, what are the basic packages i must install in order to program C++ using kdevelop
[22:03] <brmassa> ?
[22:03] <brmassa> i installed automake and gcc and g++ (newest)
[22:03] <genii> !be-e
[22:03] <genii> !b-e
[22:04] <BooVeMan_work> to whom it may affect: http://www.sysadminday.com/
[22:07] <brmassa> ubottu: i keep getting "configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables"
[22:07] <crimsun_> brmassa: is the "build-essential" metapackage installed along with its dependencies?
[22:07] <brmassa> ops!
[22:07] <brmassa> crimsun_: yes
[22:08] <BooVeMan_work> brmassa: and the cplusplus package is includes it that package?
[22:08] <khurram> hi
[22:08] <stefan__> Alt+Shift, Scroll Lock diode lights up? How comes this? Pretty strange :)
[22:08] <crimsun_> brmassa: sudo apt-get --reinstall build-essential libc6-dev gcc g++ make
[22:08] <stefan__> please help
[22:09] <crimsun_> err
[22:09] <crimsun_> brmassa: sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential libc6-dev gcc g++ make
[22:09] <BooVeMan_work> brmassa: forget that - i got mixed up with the g++ package
[22:09] <khurram> hey i am usin kubuntu 8.04 and my browser is not working can any one tell me wht to do
[22:09] <khurram>  hey i am usin kubuntu 8.04 and my browser is not working can any one tell me wht to do
[22:10] <engineer> !repeat
[22:10] <khurram>  hey i am usin kubuntu 8.04 and my browser is not working can any one tell me wht to do
[22:10] <khurram>  hey i am usin kubuntu 8.04 and my browser is not working can any one tell me wht to do
[22:10] <brmassa> BooVeMan_work: np. thanks
[22:10] <khurram>  hey i am usin kubuntu 8.04 and my browser is not working can any one tell me wht to do
[22:10] <brmassa> khurram: hey man!
[22:10] <engineer> !patience
[22:10] <khurram> hey i cannot browse
[22:10] <khurram> browse
[22:11] <stefan__> can somebody please help me?
[22:12] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: try being a tad more precise - whaat are you trieing to do - what is you  system - what the internet connection?
[22:12] <BooVeMan_work> "ask > stefan__
[22:12] <BooVeMan_work> !ask > stefan__
[22:13] <khurram> booveman
[22:13] <khurram> can u hlp me
[22:13] <stefan__> kk I sow it
[22:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> hey
[22:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> i am back
[22:13] <BooVeMan_work> !it
[22:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i just opened the terminal and i can[t download stuff using sudo aptitude install, i think the repos might not be open or something
[22:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i check?
[22:14] <BooVeMan_work> CostaRicanQuaker: cna you ping google?
[22:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> link?
[22:15] <BooVeMan_work> ping google.com
[22:15] <khurram> yea when i ping it works booveman
[22:15] <khurram> there is some prb with browser
[22:15] <khurram> can any one tell me seetings
[22:15] <khurram> settings
[22:15] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: what browser=
[22:16] <khurram> konqueror
[22:16] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: sorry never used konquerror for browsing
[22:16] <khurram> @booveman   Konqueror
[22:16] <brmassa> crimsun_: all done. nothing happened. jezz... i dont know what is happening!
[22:17] <khurram> so shud i use firefox
[22:17] <genii> firefox is pretty much the standard these days, so yes
[22:17] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: try it - if ity works - why complain?
[22:17] <khurram> thnkx genni and boove
[22:17] <BooVeMan_work> CostaRicanQuaker: can you or can't you oping google?
[22:18] <engineer> firefox owns
[22:18] <genii> khurram: I do not give assistance in private message, only in public channel.
[22:19] <BooVeMan_work> genii: tried that with you as well?
[22:19] <crimsun_> brmassa: what does c++ -v give you?
[22:19] <khurram> hey i have got ubuntu old version cd cani install firefox from there if yes then temme how
[22:20] <khurram> sorry genii
[22:20] <genii> khurram: I REPEAT. I do NOT give assistance by private message, only public channel. Please take this as an instruction not to private message me anymore but to ask questions in this channel instead.
[22:20] <genii> (this after the second message)
[22:20] <see-g> khurram: proper english helps others help you
[22:20] <khurram> soorry genni
[22:20] <khurram> hey i have got ubuntu old version cd cani install firefox from there if yes then temme how
[22:21] <genii> khurram: You should be able to install firefox only by:  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:21] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: if you can ping google (as you said) try in the konsole sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:21] <see-g> khurram: check if there's a firefox package in (cdrom)/pool/f/
[22:21] <genii> If an older ubuntu cd, then the package MAY be called mozilla-firefox
[22:21]  * BooVeMan_work backs out - too many cooks
[22:21] <khurram> yea i know but i m asking that can we install it from the cd
[22:22] <khurram> ok thankx
[22:22] <brmassa> crimsun_: im trying to get some help on #kdevelop. at any problem, i will return
[22:23] <see-g> if it is on there, you can install it by *right-clicking on the package -> install with (whatever package manager came with your installation) or *in a shell, cd to the directory where the firefox package resides and dpkg -i (name of the package).deb
[22:24] <khurram> thnkx see-g
[22:25] <khurram> my questions are very basic as i am new to linux
[22:25] <bdizzle> hello
[22:25] <khurram> i want to run exe file on linux can i do this
[22:26] <bdizzle> I tried going into the openoffice channel and it seems the room is not active right now (Maybe because its Friday)
[22:26] <bdizzle> khurram, use wine to open exe files
[22:26] <bdizzle> is there a guide of the symbols used in the formula editor of OpenOffice Math?
[22:26] <khurram> ok so i shud install in like apttitude install wine
[22:26] <see-g> khurram: nevermind ... just respect people's wish not to be asked a question in private (unless you were given permission to) - it's even making life easier for you since everyone can see your question and give an answer, rather than you having to rely on the person you asked in private being able and willing to help
[22:27] <khurram> thankyou see-g and sorry if i disturb you
[22:28] <bdizzle> yeah
[22:28] <bdizzle> sudo apt-get install wine
[22:28] <khurram> see-g i want to learn linux as i am new to this O.S so can u guide me what will help me to improve
[22:28] <see-g> that's alright ... I /ignore when I feel disturbed ;)
[22:28] <khurram> thnkx bdzzle
[22:28] <bdizzle> yeah, I've only been using it for a few months myself. There is plenty to learn in it
[22:29] <bdizzle> otherwise, in kubuntu, just get it out of the repositories
[22:29] <bdizzle> ie, Add / Remove programs
[22:30] <khurram> hey can any one suggest me best media player which can play all the audio extention
[22:30] <bdizzle> audio?
[22:30] <bdizzle> amarok
[22:30] <khurram> i have it but it not work
[22:30] <see-g> khurram: Lesson 1: Linux is not Windows. Can't stress that enough (no, this does not mean that Linux is better than Windows. Neither does it mean Windows is better. Linux is not Windows. Some of the knowledge you gathered in the Windows world might still be true on Linux, many things you will have to learn again...)
[22:31] <khurram> thanks see-g
[22:32] <khurram> no suitable plugins when ever i play .dat file in amrok so from where i download plugins for amarok
[22:33] <see-g> Lesson 2: Willingness to learn for yourself is greatly appreciated. It is perfectly fine to ask questions, but please do have a look at the documentation. Many projects set up a Wiki, others simply have a FAQ and documentation on their website, most software comes with a man page. After having a look in there, you often don't have to ask anymore :)
[22:34] <khurram> thankyou see-g
[22:34] <bdizzle> wait, how do you run .dat files in amarok?
[22:35] <see-g> and, one more thing before I go and meet my girl (yes, you may use Linux _and_ meet girls ;)):
[22:35] <bdizzle> I didn't think .dat files were audio at all
[22:35] <bdizzle> heh, yeah, that is a lesson on its own see-g, how do you do that one?
[22:35] <khurram> i want to say that any audio or .dat file
[22:35] <khurram> i know .dat is vedieo
[22:35] <khurram> video
[22:35] <see-g> bdizzle: I think you start by reading the Nerd Guide to Girls or something like that
[22:36] <see-g> no, sorry, it's the Geek Guide
[22:36] <bdizzle> such book exists? WHERE?
[22:36] <bdizzle> lol
[22:36] <bdizzle> khurram, try it in VLC, just as you would in windows
[22:36] <bdizzle> VLC is one of those nice cross-platform programs. Its good for transitioning
[22:36] <khurram> thanks bidzzle
[22:36] <see-g> bdizzle: http://www.sosuave.com/articles/geeks.htmhttp://www.sosuave.com/articles/geeks.htm
[22:36] <see-g> argh
[22:36] <see-g> sorry, got excited about that bit ;)
[22:37] <bdizzle> lol
[22:37] <see-g> it's one URL pasted twice, go figure it out ;>
[22:37] <khurram> see-g  may i ask what do you do
[22:38] <see-g> khurram: right now? breathing, typing, all that stuff you usually do ;) and I'm on two months of holidays between jobs :)
[22:39] <see-g> and, apart from that, I'm about to leave my girl waiting
[22:39] <khurram> i really like the way you help me
[22:39] <khurram> your nice
[22:39] <see-g> you just came over from Quakenet, huh?
[22:39] <see-g> just kidding ^^
[22:40] <khurram> see-g can i know ur asl  and where you from
[22:40] <see-g> 22/m/de
[22:40] <khurram> de what
[22:40] <see-g> asl implies "where are you from", unless I'd decide to specify "on the chair" as location ;)
[22:40] <see-g> germany
[22:41] <khurram> ok
[22:41] <see-g> de is our TLD (top level-domain), I thought it might be readable here
[22:41] <bdizzle> quick artistic question
[22:41] <bdizzle> with the majority of the sections in blue, what is a good background for it?
[22:41] <khurram> yea i offten see .de
[22:42] <khurram> but i was not sure bout country
[22:42] <BooVeMan_work> bdizzle: youve been to #openoffice ore #openoffice.org?
[22:42] <bdizzle> yeah, no one is active in the room
[22:43] <see-g> bdizzle: a dark or a light blue?
[22:44] <see-g> on a dark blue, a darkish shade of orange might turn out nice
[22:44] <bdizzle> um, hold on
[22:44] <BooVeMan_work> bdizzle: strange... - unfortunately I never needed the formula editor
[22:44] <bdizzle> let me upload it and check it
[22:45] <khurram> see-g can i install windows not fromatting ma linux
[22:45] <bdizzle> http://www.jlab.org/~bwieland/Poster_updated.pdf
[22:45] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: yes they can happily live alonglside
[22:45] <see-g> khurram: and one last thing before I go: Check the time when you're asking a question - if the Europeans don't have an answer, try asking again in a reasonable time for the americans to be here (roughly 8-12 hours later)
[22:45] <bdizzle> um, the americans just got out of work
[22:46] <bdizzle> or at least we're supposed to be
[22:46] <bdizzle> on the east coast
[22:46] <khurram> thankyou see-g
[22:46] <bdizzle> khurram, its called dual-booting, and when you are new (or even used Linux for a while) and still learning, it's definitely a good idea
[22:46] <khurram> ur nice
[22:46] <bdizzle> but make sure you get a step-by-step guide so that you aren't over-writing your windows partition
[22:46] <bdizzle> BooVeMan_work, did you check the link?
[22:46] <khurram> thankx bidizzle
[22:47] <see-g> khurram: Windows has a habit of replacing the MBR with its own, the traditional Linux-way of dealing with this is installing Windows before Linux. If this happens not to be your case, you just need any Linux installation CD which is able to repair the GRUB
[22:48] <khurram> how will i repair grub
[22:49] <BooVeMan_work> !grup
[22:49] <BooVeMan_work> !grub
[22:49] <BooVeMan_work> bdizzle: i like blues
[22:50] <BooVeMan_work> bdizzle: for me cark and light blue just work fine
[22:50] <bdizzle> okay
[22:51] <khurram> so vlc will play my dvd ,vcd,dat,mpeg formats
[22:52] <Daisuke_Ido> vlc will play pretty much anything you throw at it
[22:52] <alanx> khurram: vlc is very powerful, justr try it
[22:52] <khurram> DAisuke-ido :thanks
[22:52] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: mayu need to apt-get intall w32codecs
[22:52] <khurram> alanx: thankx
[22:53] <khurram> BooVeMan : this one is for vlc
[22:53] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: codecs are for any audio/video program
[22:53] <see-g> alright, I'm really gone now ... bye
[22:54] <khurram> BooVeMan : thanks
[22:54] <khurram> see-g Byes
[22:54] <BooVeMan_work> by see-g
[22:54] <khurram> see-g: thanks for the help
[22:57] <khurram> i have heard that we usin blue tooth we can shutdown and logoff linux is it true if yes can any one tellme software
[22:58] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: where are you from?
[22:58] <khurram> BooVeMan : 23 male from pakistan
[22:59] <khurram> BooVeMan : and you?
[23:00] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: elsewhere - I just asked to find wheter there would be a channel in your native language
[23:01] <khurram> yes
[23:04] <khurram> my apt-get is not working
[23:04] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: there is an pakistanian chat room : #ubuntu-pk
[23:05] <BooVeMan_work> khurram: what error?
[23:12] <khurram> hey can any one tell me how to play wma format
[23:15] <guido> how can I get kubuntu to mount a disk on start up?
[23:16] <di48lo> can someone tell me anything about fstab entries?
[23:18] <BooVeMan_work> !fstab
[23:19] <di48lo> can I run an entry by you to see if you think it looks ok?
[23:19] <BooVeMan_work> !wma >khurran
[23:19] <BooVeMan_work> if its one line - pste it here
[23:19] <BooVeMan_work> if its multiline use pastbin
[23:19] <BooVeMan_work> !pastebin
[23:20] <di48lo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30414/
[23:20] <di48lo> do you think this looks ok?
[23:21] <di48lo> I have a partition on my usb hd that is a general fat data stash that I am trying to automount
[23:23] <moshe> hi, is there a way to change the file open dialog that pops up from firefox to kde one? the gtk is sooo annoying, can't work with it
[23:24] <guido> what's kubuntu's disk manager app?
[23:26] <BooVeMan_work> guido: konqueror or dolphin or...
[23:26] <guido> how do I unmount a disk with dolphin?
[23:26] <guido> nevermind, found it :)
[23:26] <BooVeMan_work> guido: should automount
[23:27] <BooVeMan_work> guido: and apper under /media
[23:27] <BooVeMan_work> sorry unmount is rgiht click - action - savely remocve
[23:27] <guido> BooVeMan_work: I want to make a disk automount on startup, how would I go around setting that up?
[23:27] <BooVeMan_work> guido: adding an fstab line
[23:28] <BooVeMan_work> guido: if you have the disk mounted do a cat /etc/mtab and copy teh corresponding line to /etc/fstab
[23:29] <guido> BooVeMan_work: my god.. you are one step ahead of me.. I was about to ask you if there was a way to do something like that
[23:29] <BooVeMan_work> !DiskMuunter
[23:29] <BooVeMan_work> !DiskMounter
[23:30] <BooVeMan_work> ubottu: is a bit sleepy...
[23:33] <guido> BooVeMan_work: so if I paste this line in my fstab the disk will be automatically mounted on boot? "/dev/sda5 /media/disk fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0"
[23:33] <BooVeMan_work> guido: should do
[23:34] <guido> BooVeMan_work: is there a particular reason why the other mounts there have UUID=a string of things in my fstab?
[23:34] <BooVeMan_work> guido: you may alter the mount location if you want it to appear somewhere else
[23:34] <guido> BooVeMan_work: should my new line have it?
[23:35] <BooVeMan_work> usually that are fixed disks
[23:35] <BooVeMan_work> guido: if you can figure out your UUID..
[23:35] <guido> BooVeMan_work: I don't know what a UUID is, so I'm guessing I can't
[23:36] <BooVeMan_work> ubottu knows
[23:36] <BooVeMan_work> !UUID
[23:37] <BooVeMan_work> ubottu: shut up
[23:37] <guido> BooVeMan_work: should I add that UUID thing?
[23:38] <BooVeMan_work> to make sure yes - and change the mount point - as /media/disk is fequently used for flash memories
[23:39] <BooVeMan_work> put it elsewhere - like /media/myotherdisk ;-)
[23:39] <guido> how do I change that?
[23:39] <guido> just write it on the fstab?
[23:40] <BooVeMan_work> guido: yes (that folder must exist) and should be read/writable by you
[23:42] <guido> BooVeMan_work: so... my fstab should have something like this? "UUID="B6B0FDD0B0FD96D9" TYPE="ntfs" /dev/sda5 /media/downloads fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0"
[23:42] <guido> BooVeMan_work: or should I lose the "type" string?
[23:43] <BooVeMan_work> tyr first without the type - and shouldn't that be ntfs-3g
[23:43] <BooVeMan_work> guido: or is that read noly?
[23:45] <guido> BooVeMan_work: it's not read only.. it's what I got from the "cat /etc/mtab" after dolphin mounted it
[23:47] <BooVeMan_work> guido: sorry not sure about ntfs vs ntfs-3g - haven?t seen that ts in years ;-)
[23:47] <BooVeMan_work> !ntfs
[23:47] <BooVeMan_work> !ntfs-3g
[23:47] <guido> !NTFS-3g
[23:48] <BooVeMan_work> right i'm out good luck
[23:48] <guido> ok, thanks!
[23:48] <guido> bye
[23:50] <ol_dude67> whats the easiest way to install a .bin file?
[23:59] <sin_nombre> hola  a todos
[23:59] <jpds> !es > sin_nombre