[00:53] hi all, i am getting problem with the host timing out during cvs imports https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/panda3d/main [00:54] what can i do to fix it? [00:54] treeform: oh [00:54] sourceforge are blocking some of our imports during a datacentre move [00:55] so they are moving data centers? Do you know when they will be done? Or a way to get around that? [00:56] treeform: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/244575 [00:56] Launchpad bug 244575 in launchpad-bazaar "code imports from sourceforge are blocked" [High,In progress] [00:56] if you can get us a repository tarball we can do the import from taht [00:56] (probably... ) [00:58] oh who would i give it too? How to make it properly? I only have the checkout not the repo itself. [01:06] probably best to ask a question at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar with the details [01:06] i think sf gives you a link to a repository snapshot somewhere... [01:24] mwhudson: how easy what it be to import the cvs myself and upload it to lp. I could probably just wait till SF moves because i would still would like automatic imports might be hard to set up it any other way. [01:25] it wouldn't be at all easy for you to set it up in a way that we could update :/ [01:27] Why are 957 projects related to me? [01:31] bdmurray: I can't say for sure, that's actually 957 questions. [01:31] Touche! 957 just seems like a lot to me [01:32] bdmurray: I reckon filing a bug on a project will make you "related" to that project. [01:32] maybe I'm lying though [01:32] bdmurray: looking at my related software page, it shows projects associated with teams I'm a member of. [01:33] * jml has never done anything related to "Vimdiff plugin for Bazaar" [01:35] bdmurray: so, if you are a member of a big team, you'll get a lot of projects there. [01:35] * jml thinks this is a bug. my page is about *me* [01:49] jml: a team you're in has. [01:49] ah, you found it. [01:49] :) [01:49] Hobbsee: you've seen my bug? [01:49] jml: yes, of course. [01:50] jml: some nitwit decided to subscribe motu to some bugs completely outside of ubuntu, so all of us have apparently contributed to those project.s [01:50] great, isn't it? [01:51] Hobbsee: well, like I say in my report, the page should filter on actual contribution. [01:52] jml: still, we're not working on Fooix the Wonder-Toaster anymore, which is disappointing [01:52] jml: what's the link to your report? [01:52] (i don't see that) [01:52] Hobbsee: toast is indeed a mighty thing and toasters are its worthy servants [01:53] Hobbsee: bug 251670 [01:53] Launchpad bug 251670 in launchpad "My "related software" page shows irrelevant projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251670 [01:57] jml: ah yes. [01:57] subscribed. [01:58] and i agree on the toast. [02:01] heya thumper [02:18] <_steven_> How do I import my cvs branch into my launchpad page with all my history (not vcs imports, I want to use launchpad for my code changes from now on)? [02:22] mwhudson, you seem to be popular today ^ :) [02:23] _steven_: well you convert your cvs history to bzr somehow (there are a few ways of doing this if you just want a one-shot conversion) [02:23] then you push the branch up to bazaar [02:23] then you stop using cvs :) [02:23] _steven_: if there's a vcs-imports branch already, just pull that and push it up as ~you/yourproject/trunk [02:24] _steven_: and ask us to stop the import [02:27] <_steven_> mwhudson, I have a vcs imports already. Does a vcs import contain all of the cvs history or only the history after it was created? [02:27] _steven_: all history [02:27] <_steven_> is there any way I can convert that vcs import into a real branch? [02:28] (this is why importing some projects for the first time can take a week!) [02:28] _steven_: as i already said, yes [02:28] _steven_: if there's a vcs-imports branch already, just pull that and push it up as ~you/yourproject/trunk [02:28] though it is already 'real branch' in any meaningful sense :) [02:29] <_steven_> ok, sorry. Guess the pull/push terminology confused what you meant. Got it now [02:29] np [02:29] sorry if i was unclear :) [02:31] hi Hobbsee [02:31] * thumper goes to caffeinate [02:31] <_steven_> I miss the old launchpad look :( [02:32] I do too a little [02:32] _steven_, the new one grown on me :-/ [02:32] <_steven_> menus were a little hard to navigate, but this one is a little plain [02:32] <_steven_> too much whitespace :) [02:33] Out of curosity, what does it take for a package to appear under "Maintained Packages" [02:33] NCommander: You need to be Maintainer: in debian/control [02:34] persia, not just Original Maintainer? [02:34] correct. [02:34] Nope. Maintainer. [02:34] (I'm listed for two packages that I'm just in O-Maintainer) [02:34] * persia is baffled, and suspects that is likely broken somehow. [02:34] What is your LP id? [02:34] persia, er, correction, cvsps has MOTU has the maintainer, nrss has local changes I made [02:34] persia, sonicmctails [02:35] * persia hunts for the page [02:37] NCommander: You're listed as "Maintainer" for both of those on Hardy (as specified from the /+packages page) [02:38] It checks the source package, which for hardy was unmodified for Ubuntu. The binary packages are automangled, as arbitrary maintainers aren't responsible for Ubuntu buildd issues. [02:38] Oh, but not in intrepid [02:38] That makes sense [02:41] <_steven_> pretty sure I know the answer to this, but is there any way to import bugs from berlios? [03:03] Is there a RDF structure file I can use when querying against LP's RDF data? (I'm trying to retrieve nicknames and GPG keys from a group, but I can't say I'm having much success) [03:14] come on launchpad...any day now... [03:14] there we are, it loaded. === Ursinha is now known as MariaDoBairro === MariaDoBairro is now known as flipper === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as oandarilho01 === asac_ is now known as asac [04:56] Is there any lag between the time a user updates his GPG keys, and the time it appears on the LP GPG keyserver? [05:00] a little perhaps [05:00] also keyservers fall over from time to time... === fdd-01 is now known as fdd [10:00] Hi, Question how can I upload source packages to my PPA? [10:02] lodder: https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart might help. [10:02] wgrant: I have al ready checked it [10:03] but when I look on my page I don't see anything about it :( [10:04] I have only these options for my PPA: [10:04] See 'Creating your source package' [10:06] wgrant: yes I found that but It doesn't mention how I can upload it [10:07] wgrant: I have only these options: * View PPA * Change details * View build records * Delete packages * Copy packages * Edit dependencies [10:08] See step 3. [10:08] I don't see where it mentions clicking anywhere in the web UI. [10:09] wgrant: Ok got it now [10:09] wgrant: thx [10:12] wgrant: The upload I got now still looking for a way to create it ;) [10:13] Hm? [10:13] wgrant: It's the first time I'm trying to make a source package to upload to ppa [10:13] Ah. [10:14] wgrant: can you help me in the right way [10:14] wgrant: its a python program [10:16] * wgrant is unfortunately a little out of time right now. [10:17] wgrant: ah no problem do you have a bit of a howto I can use? [10:17] or mail it to me [10:36] Hi, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~proppy/txprotobuf/master states the following: Update this branch: bzr push lp:txprotobuf [10:36] however it failed with the following error [10:36] bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eproppy/txprotobuf/master/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir( [10:36] proppy: you need to do "bzr launchpad-login YOUR-LAUNCHPAD-LOGIN" first. [10:39] spiv: thanks :) [11:19] hmm it seems you cant even push without using launchpad-login [11:19] is this meant to be like that [11:20] than i get permission denied [11:21] * gnomefreak owner of gnomefreak bzr branches :( [11:22] can someone look at this and give me a hint http://pastebin.mozilla.org/499735 [11:24] sorry missed part of the paste, this is all of it http://pastebin.mozilla.org/499737 [11:28] ooh, wow! a new box! [11:28] wait, no. drat. [11:47] gnomefreak: Permission denied (publickey). [11:48] it never asked for password [11:48] Set your username properly, and ensure that you have your SSH key set up... [11:48] gnomefreak: could be the publickey it's using doesn't have a passphrase. [11:48] There are no passwords involved. [11:48] set my username? [11:49] gnomefreak is my user name [11:49] bzr launchpad-logi [11:49] *login [11:49] i did [11:49] I think gnomefreak's login is correct. [11:49] Then try the latter. [11:49] gnomefreak@Development:~/tbird-3.0/work/thunderbird-3.0.head$ bzr launchpad-login gnomefreak [11:49] gnomefreak: right, but are you using the correct key? [11:49] my ssh key was made after all that security stuff [11:50] Does Launchpad know about it? [11:50] LarstiQ: ssh key yes its my only one [11:50] wgrant: its on my LP page [11:50] gnomefreak: The right one, are you sure? [11:50] wgrant: yes for the most part im sure [11:50] I would advise being fully sure. [11:50] As that's the problem. [11:51] gnomefreak: and `ssh-add -l` shows the same fingerprint as what LP knows? [11:51] oh i do have 2 but only one for development [11:51] The agent has no identities. [11:52] did i forget to install ssh and bring key over [11:52] gnomefreak: so, ssh doesn't know how to find your key. You can ssh-add it yourself, or edit ~/.ssh/config and tell it where it lives [11:52] let me see what i can do ill let you know [11:52] ok. [11:53] ssh-server is no longer a package lol [11:53] forgot open [11:53] openssh-server [11:53] but you don't need that [11:56] still fails [11:57] how do i view what LP has as my fingerprint [11:57] i dont have menus on my LP page [11:58] gnomefreak: https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/+sshkeys [11:59] 2048 55:5e:c0:06:21:85:74:44:54:76:ed:61:ec:f3:46:e0 isnt the same format to what LP has [12:00] i dont want to make another one [12:01] ok yes its the same [12:02] http://pastebin.mozilla.org/499755 [12:02] that is the key [12:03] Does SSH now know about it? [12:03] ha its working now [12:03] wgrant: yeah it does. i had to login again [12:04] how many times do i need to login every session? and why do we have to log in now? [12:04] Huh? [12:05] why did i have to use bzr launchpad-login gnomefreak 2 times in ame terminal session and why do we even have to log in what happened to just pushing branches? [12:06] its strange to me [12:06] You only had to do it once. [12:06] no i had to 2 times [12:06] And so it knows what credentials to use, perhaps!? [12:07] the first time when i found out no ~/.ssh and once after i had set up ~/.ssh [12:07] I strongly suspect you altered other things which fixed it. [12:07] my ~/.ssh dir is all i did [12:07] Which is probably what fixed it........ [12:07] i never carried it over from usb stick when i installed the last time [12:08] so if you log in and get error you have to login again after you fix it [12:08] I don't believe so. [12:09] gnomefreak: no, I'm certain that is not the case. [12:09] http://pastebin.mozilla.org/499767 [12:09] gnomefreak: all you had to do was fix ~/.ssh/ [12:09] LarstiQ: nope see last error and last login on that pastebin [12:10] That doesn't make sense. The code doesn't work like that... [12:10] gnomefreak: you are not showing what you did outside of that. [12:10] gnomefreak: suddenly a key turns up? [12:10] LarstiQ: only thing i did was move ~/.ssh just before last time it failed to push [12:10] LarstiQ: i had it but i forgot to move it back when i installed [12:11] i used gui to move ~/.ssh so i cant show you that but it was before last bzr launchpad-login [12:12] Agent admitted failure to sign using the key. [12:12] gnomefreak: that is the relevant bit. [12:12] i used it once without a ~/.ssh and once again after i got my ~/.ssh back but you see last permission denied than i loged in and it worked [12:12] LarstiQ: i showed you that in this channel [12:13] gnomefreak: well, all I can tell you is that 'launchpad-login' does not touch your ssh key at all. [12:14] The code is quite clear on that. [12:14] It particularly doesn't make your agent happier. [12:14] LarstiQ: that i know i was just wondering why i had to login 2 times [12:14] once before i had an ~/.ssh and once again after [12:15] gnomefreak: do you mean run 'bzr launchpad-login' twice? You don't. Or do you mean something else? [12:15] i figured it would have remembered my log in the first time [12:15] it did. [12:15] LarstiQ: yes i had to [12:15] gnomefreak: really, all the code does is write 'launcpad_username = foo' to the config file. The codepath is the same in all cases. [12:15] * LarstiQ gives up. [12:16] well i showed you i had to thought maybe a bug but oh well [12:16] gnomefreak: I am 100% sure something else was going on. But if you can reliably reproduce it, I give you my word I will personally fix it. [12:17] Python does normally do what the code says it should do. [12:17] next time i push [12:17] wgrant: thats where bug comes in [12:17] Huh? [12:17] that is what a bug is atleast [12:17] gnomefreak: I have debugged publickey issues far too often, and almost always it's user error. [12:17] I don't know of a Python bug where it will manipulate your SSH agent. [12:18] key was my fault yes that has nothing with what i am talking about [12:18] forget the key [12:18] '# [12:18] Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.' [12:18] gnomefreak: did you see the message the final failing push put out? [12:18] i had to use launchpad-login once without my ~/.ssh dir [12:18] That's not something launchpad-login will touch. [12:18] than once again after i added my ~/.ssh [12:18] The errors might be recorded in ~/.bzr.log [12:18] gnomefreak: that line means the ssh-agent is aware of the key, but is missing a passphrase [12:18] thats all im saying [12:19] LarstiQ: but didnt i say it didnt give me a chance to type one [12:19] gnomefreak: right, I get that. All I am saying is you did something _else_ that fixed it. [12:19] gnomefreak: no [12:19] gnomefreak: that was for the earlier error. [12:19] 06:47 < LarstiQ > gnomefreak: Permission denied (publickey). [12:19] gnomefreak: are you using an openpgp card by chance? [12:19] 06:48 < gnomefreak > it never asked for password [12:20] gnomefreak: different error. [12:20] gnomefreak: in the first case, it didn't even know which key to use. [12:20] fix was to move ~/.ssh off usb key to ~/$HOME [12:20] gnomefreak: in the second one, it did, but it couldn't sign with it. [12:20] than i had to login again after i did that [12:20] that makes 2 logins [12:20] gnomefreak: yes, and we are telling you, that second login did nothing at all. [12:21] gnomefreak: what else did you do between moving ~/.ssh and pushing? [12:21] yes it did if you look i couldnt push until i logged back in [12:21] succesfully that is. [12:21] gnomefreak: you admitted the moving was in a gui so not represented in that paste, right? [12:22] http://pastebin.mozilla.org/499782 [12:22] gnomefreak: I'm saying something else happened as well, that you may not see as significant, but actually fixed i.t [12:22] there i addded where i added my ~/.ssh [12:22] every command i ran is there only thing outside of it was moving ~/.ssh [12:22] ok. [12:23] gnomefreak: well, then we will have to look into when openssh prints the message about failing to sign using the key. [12:24] * gnomefreak only cared to let you know i thought there was a bug. but its all good now thank you for the help [12:24] gnomefreak: thanks for the report. [12:29] great, ssh_request_reply does some magic talking to an agent :/ [13:35] Gooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! === mpt changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Next meeting, all welcome: Thu 1 Aug 2008, 1800UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Questions and spam reports: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Code Scanner is back! [13:36] hey mpt! [13:36] hey hey [13:47] Hobbsee: Now there are two developers in two days quitting Ubuntu teams citing painful Launchpad U/I in their reasons. [13:49] i did'nt cite *only* the painful UI, fyi. [13:49] but i'm not surprised [13:49] Right. That's why I said 'in' not 'as'. [13:49] oh [15:24] Hi people, I get an error when I try to attach a openPGP key to my luanchpad.net account, when I click the confirmation link in my e-mail I get the message "Not allowed here - Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. - You are logged in as Gijs Molenaar." [15:24] any idea? launchpad bug? [15:26] what link are you getting in your email? [15:27] https://launchpad.net/token/HxL119Sp4VJPE1C11CHE [15:27] (modified token for security) [15:28] the mail is encrypted with my public key, that part is working [15:30] strange [15:30] I tried multiple times [15:32] SURFgijs, what's your user ID in LP? [15:33] SURFgijs: is your e-mail address publicly available? I ask this because it may be related to bug #251812 [15:33] Launchpad bug 251812 in launchpad "'Permission denied' trying to add a mail address owned by a person who hides it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251812 [15:37] let me check [15:37] name: gijs-pythonic [15:37] searching for the place where to see if it is public or not.... [15:38] "Hide my email addresses from other Launchpad users" ? [15:38] yep [15:38] i'll try again [15:39] I disabled "Hide my email addresses from other Launchpad users" but I still can't access that page [15:39] I'll try to create a new token [15:40] SURFgijs, and what's the fingerprint of the key being added? [15:40] no, doesn't work [15:40] C660 BABA 4B91 4B5C EB60 7739 4385 8ABA 72EE 99CA [15:46] SURFgijs, the error you got is a bug on our side. there's a way to workaround it, though [15:46] SURFgijs, I see you have another account on LP (gijsmolenaar). do you want these two separate accounts or would you be able to merge them? [15:47] I forgot about the other one [15:47] gijsmolenaar [15:47] I would like to merge them [15:47] I already filed a bug for this (251400) [15:48] SURFgijs, if you merge them you'll be able to import the GPG key [15:48] SURFgijs, thanks for filing the bug, btw [15:48] how do I merge? [15:49] SURFgijs, there's a link for it under https://launchpad.net/people [15:50] hihi [15:50] when I merge [15:51] I get the same error :) [15:51] Not allowed here Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. You are logged in as Gijs Molenaar. [15:51] 1> I go to: https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge [15:51] 2> I enter: gijsmolenaar [15:51] 3> error [15:53] that just means one more bug for me to fix [15:54] SURFgijs, hang on and I'll do something so that you can merge [15:55] SURFgijs, it'd be great if you could file a separate bug for this. and sorry for the trouble [15:57] will do ;) [15:57] SURFgijs, now you can even choose! both the merge and the key import should work. :) [15:59] should I still file a bug? [16:00] SURFgijs, please do. other people may encounter it [16:00] and I didn't (yet) actually fix the code [16:01] #251869 [16:01] I still get the error when merging [16:02] and key confirm also :) [16:06] I need to leave [16:06] please update the bug ticket if there is any development in this issue [16:07] SURFgijs, should be good now [16:07] because now I can't work with my PPA :) [16:07] confirmed :) [16:07] I asked for a change to be done so that you could merge, but the change failed in the first attempt. [16:07] SURFgijs, cool [16:10] ok, maybe a bug or not [16:10] when I try to merge [16:11] An email message was sent to gijsmolenaar@gmail.com. Please follow the instructions on that message to complete the merge. [16:11] but still didn't receive anything [16:11] maybe a google thing [16:11] but google mailservers are normally quite fast [16:12] aaah there it is [16:12] sorry never mind [16:13] working! [16:13] great [16:13] thx [16:13] I'm leaving :) [16:13] good luck improving launchpad and thanks for the fast fix === stdin_ is now known as stdin === javamaniac_ is now known as eff === eff is now known as effie === effie is now known as effie_jayx [17:10] what is karma? [17:10] do I eventually level up? [17:11] hey beuno, got a moment? [17:11] hey emet [17:12] hey [17:12] emet: you may find https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Karma useful [17:12] emet: Karma is Launchpad's way of showing how active people are. For just about every bit of work you do in Launchpad, you get a karma score [17:12] is launchpad suppose to take 20 minutes for a revision to show up? [17:12] emet: And yeah, as andrea-bs says, that guide should tell you what you need. If not, let me know! [17:14] cool [17:14] do I get a sticker or something if I reach 10,000 karma? :o === abentley1 is now known as abentley [17:18] does bzr uploads count into karama? [17:19] If someone marks your bug invalid, do you lose karma? :D [17:20] emet, Peng_: no :D [17:21] boo [17:21] so that's why my karma is going down === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [17:21] I though launchpad hates my code or something [17:22] emet: look at https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+karma ;) [17:26] mrevell, yeap, hey there [17:26] Peng_, are you going to be around today for 3 or 4 more hours? [17:26] if you are, I have something for you :) [17:27] beuno: I won't be around constantly, but probably, yeah. === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch [17:27] Peng_, cool, I'll ping you later on then [17:27] hey beuno [17:28] beuno: Okay. === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === javamaniac_ is now known as effie_jayx [17:59] hello [17:59] delete branch function is disabled ? [18:00] in the last launchpad version i remember the button in the menu. [18:00] but now i cant found it.. [18:03] found it.. [18:04] /+delete [18:04] if it`s possible add it on menu. thanks. [18:09] hi, I can't view launchpad because of a pop-up js error saying something about assertion error related to search [18:10] newz2000: url? [18:10] is this known or would you like a screenshot [18:10] https://launchpad.net [18:10] newz2000: yes, a screenshot would be great, especially if attached to a bug [18:11] I can't create a bug because I can't go to launchpad [18:11] Browser? [18:11] Maybe it's a Greasemonkey script or something? [18:12] newz2000: you can file bugs via email [18:12] http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/tmp/lperror.png [18:13] maybe this is a firefox problem [18:13] I get it when trying to view that image I just linked to [18:13] :-P === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha [18:14] ignore me, I just realized I installed a firefox update and hadn't restarted the browser yet [18:15] newz2000: doh :) [18:15] always fun, that error === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [19:15] Hi. I'm trying to build a package in my Personal Package Archive. One of the Build-Deps is in hardy-proposed, which doesn't seem to be available for the builder. How can I build the package, without waiting for the package to be available in the "hardy" pocket. === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [21:20] Hi there was wondering if someone can help, im trying to sign the ubuntu code of conduct but when I dump the contents of my UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc file I get (7, 9, 'No public key') [21:21] Have had a google but nothings really helpful and since ive never used gpg before this errors is almost meaningless [21:25] hi Nightvision, have you uploaded your gpg key to launchpad? [21:25] Yes I have [21:26] Well atcaully since im new ill not make any assumption ive done this correctly. [21:27] Nightvision: ok. allow some minutes for our internal keyserver to catch with ubuntu's keyserver [21:27] Ive entered my finger print , recieved the encrypted e-mail response, singed it and am trying to upload the contents from text editor into the text box provided [21:27] Nightvision: what's your account on launchpad? [21:27] brendan seerup is my account [21:28] there are two accounts under that anme [21:28] name [21:28] I gave up about 10 hours ago so im assuming that its not a problem with the key servers it must be something obvious ive done wrong. [21:28] https://edge.launchpad.net/~brendan.seerup and https://edge.launchpad.net/~brendan-seerup [21:28] oh [21:29] ok thats odd [21:29] the ~brendan.seerup one is the one that have the gpg key account uploaded [21:29] yes [21:30] ok. make sure you're logged in with that account [21:30] the first is an account under a old nick I dont even remember creating [21:30] (on a side note you can merge both account if you want) [21:30] pretty sure I am but ill check [21:32] ok same error while logged in under the correct account [21:32] perhaps I should delete the other account given its not needed [21:36] Nightvision: not needed. you can merge both using https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge [21:37] thank you matsubara, ill merge the accounts now. [21:37] Do you suspect this is the cause of the problem ? [21:37] can you copy and paste the contents of the UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc file using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ ? [21:39] yes code of conduct appears fine in paste bin [21:39] Nightvision: I want to check the signature, can you tell me the URL? [21:40] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30381/ [21:42] Have put a request through to merge the accounts [21:44] Any idea if the blueprints feature will be extended soon to facilitate discussions? [21:44] ToyKeeper, one of the things planned for work [21:45] Nightvision: it seems you used the key: BA7C0BD1 to sign that file but you've uploaded the key 63AD3C68 [21:46] there for resigning should fix everything [21:47] Nightvision: you can either a) re-sign with the key you've already uploaded or b) or upload the other key to launchpad [21:47] I think a) is easier and faster [21:48] Yes ill take option a :) [21:48] Thank you kindly for your help, makes my day when someone helps a newbie like myself. [21:49] Nightvision: np. glad I could help. Let me know if you need anything else. [21:53] cheers mate [21:53] cprov, you still with the world of the living? === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara