[00:12] Hi there guys. Please could someone suggest a really good sound card and tv card. I've been saving for a while now and am looking to spend it on building a top quality htpc rig. [00:12] I have been looking but I'll admit I'm a bit of a newbie. Any suggestions? [00:13] I'm thinking dual pvr-150's or should I go for something else? [00:14] MythbuntuGuest44: Capturing SD or HD? [00:14] MythbuntuGuest44: The PVR500 is like two PVR150 cards on one board which might appeal. [00:15] SD but hopefully will be upgrading to HD. Is there a card that'll do both? [00:16] I was looking at the pvr-500. I read there were some quality problems but couldn't find any info if that's been sorted. You have any problems? [00:16] It depends where you are/what kind of HD etc. [00:16] I don't use a PVR500 [00:17] MythbuntuGuest44: the pvr 500 issues where resolved [00:17] that was along time ago [00:17] I'm living in Ireland and will be connected to sky tv [00:17] Sky who normally use NDS encryption? [00:18] sattelite? [00:18] Thanks SHADOW_X [00:18] If so you'll need to go from their STB to analog to the analog input on your PVR150/etc. [00:18] Now I'm entering the realm of I don't know. [00:19] are you using sattelite cable [00:19] satellite tv* [00:19] Using a Sky box? [00:19] All I have at the moment is sky tv. I would like to build a box that'll take over all my media content and if possible record tv. [00:20] Yea using a sky box. [00:20] Then you'll have to output from the Sky box (like you currently do to the TV) into the analog input on a capture card. [00:20] The PVR150 is a good choice for that. [00:20] does your box have a firewire port? [00:21] Thank you hads, that sounds great! [00:21] Ok, got the nvidia drivers loaded, but now I can't pick a HD resolution :( I need either 1920x1080p, any idea how I can set that up? I tried editing xorg.conf but all it does is have gdm start in low-graphics mode :( [00:21] SHADOW__X: I've not heard of firewire outside the US really. Not Sky anyway. [00:21] oh so we win? [00:22] I haven't bought a box yet. I'll be buying and building everything from scratch. I'm pretty sure fire wire will be an option. [00:23] well if your box has firewire there isnt a garrruuntteee [00:23] that it will work [00:23] it might might not [00:23] What about the sond card. Creative sucks when it comes to linux support. No probs on the firewire. [00:24] Firewire output from the STB is a FCC thing, so only places which are covered by the FCC will have it. [00:24] oh [00:24] so if your outside the us and it has it itll worjk [00:24] ? [00:24] maybe we lose then [00:26] In Ireland we're pretty much stuck with Sky or Ntl. Unless you set up your own satellite for free view, which is looking like a plan at the moment. [00:27] do all 3 [00:28] Here you can get Sky and then use their satellite for Freeview also. [00:29] I'm looking for an up to date site that has pretty much everything in one place to choose from. I'm having a hard time making sense of the wiki's and then there's trying to get suppoert for PAL over NTSC. [00:30] Thanks hads. Here we have pretty much the same. I'm happy with two pvr-150's or a pvr-500. I'll shop around. It's jusst a good sound card I need now. [00:34] Any idea on the Hauppauge hybrid receivers? [00:34] i have a hvr 1800 [00:35] Some of the HVR cards will work from 2.6.26 [00:35] Some work now. [00:35] but if you can only use satellite then i dont think digital is for you [00:35] Hauppauge has a page on it somewhere. [00:35] SHADOW__X: satellite is digital [00:35] DVB-S [00:36] Sorry guys when you say didital...? [00:36] can you record straight from there [00:36] hads: ? [00:36] MythbuntuGuest44 will be able to record via analog from his Sky box and DVB-S from Freeview. [00:37] DVB is like ASwhatever you guys have in the US [00:37] Things are starting to make sense. Thaks guys! [00:38] qam is over the cable line vsb is atsc over the air [00:38] SHADOW__X: DVB-S is digital satellite, DVB-T over the air [00:38] ah ok [00:38] (in the rest of the world) [00:38] gotcha [00:38] is our satellite system the same [00:38] ? [00:39] Not sure [00:39] I have a hell of a lot to learn... [00:39] SHADOW__X: ATSC and DVB are similar standards [00:40] Could you guys suggest a sound card? I was looking at the Chaintech AV-710. great reviews and supported under linux. Can't find a plave to buy it. [00:40] ah ok hads [00:41] MythbuntuGuest44: Pretty much anything works these days. [00:42] Thanks hads. Ibelieve Creative is the best but they really don't supprt linux. What are you using? [00:42] Whatever is onboard [00:44] I have a nice Sound Blaster X-fi that's just a paper weight waiting for the day drivers will be released for linux. Still just a beta. I thought onboard wasn't always the best. Or is that pretty much in the past? [00:50] How can I enable the "nvidia" restricted driver from the console ? (the screen is completely garbled, so I need to get it enabled without a UI :/) [00:53] TheBlasphemer: what video card do you have [00:53] Thnaks for all the help hads and SHADOW_X, gnite! [00:54] mhm [00:55] SHADOW__X: A recent nVidia one, don't know the exact model, but I think it's either a 6XXX or 7XXX [00:58] alright [00:58] sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new [01:00] Is that all there is to it? simply installing that package is enough :/? [01:02] si senor [01:07] hmmmz, display still garbled after a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [01:07] I'm pretty sure that actually enabling those drivers will fix things (I [01:07] (I've done so with a lots of trouble on the garbled display, but that's not something I want to write down for my dad to remember if I ever have to clean the overlay directory :/) [01:09] Ah [01:09] sudo nvidia-xconfig fixed it :) [01:09] Thanks for getting me started though :) === MythbuntuGuest40 is now known as stevetv [01:13] hi. id like to access the media on my external hhd connected to my laptop from my mythbox [01:13] im not clever enough to know where to start :( [01:22] and i do love the time difference between australia and the rest of the world :( .. i'll check back later. danke [01:28] quit [01:28] exit [01:47] is there a common issue or page I can refer to on fairly poor quality live / recorded TV on mythbuntu using a pvr-150? I see lines whenever there's a lot of action, and, in general it seems a tiny bit blurry. [01:48] SQLDb, increase your video bitrate in recording profiles [01:48] tgm4883_laptop: I did that, hit the one for 'Live TV' right? Bumped it to 10000 [01:48] IDK how much it matters, but, I'm displaying to the 42" screen via VGA out / in [01:49] screenshot? [01:49] don't have one right now, I let me see if I can grab one from one of the recorded vids [01:52] got one, give me a second (I'm displaying this on another computer this time, so, I'm pretty sure it's not my display hardware) [01:55] tgm4883_laptop: here ya go http://i34.tinypic.com/dm8zzd.png [01:57] I take it the interlacing issue is just because it's a screenshot? ie, not visable to the naked eye? [01:57] tgm4883_laptop: it's pretty noticable on either the TV or this CRT monitor [01:58] Hi all! How do I enable EIT in mythtv? [01:58] Hardware on the recording box is: AMD XP 2800+ 2.5Ghz (I think), 640Mb DDR2 ram, 250Gb SATA HDD, 128Mb ATI Radeom 9200 (I think) [01:59] * SQLDb goes to cat /proc/cpuinfo [01:59] SQLDb, that a frontend too? [01:59] foxbuntu: it pulls double-duty, and, I sometimes use a couple other boxes as frontends (never at the same time) [02:00] SQLDb, you on 8.04? [02:00] if so switch your playback profile to cpu-- [02:00] or slim [02:00] is this channel for user support? [02:00] foxbuntu: I just downloaded it yesterday.... is there an easy way to tell? [02:00] SQLDb, your on 8.04 [02:02] foxbuntu: cpu-- resulted in more lines [02:02] SQLDb, try slim [02:02] what are the default storage group directories? [02:02] bex, you have to create them [02:02] yeah i did but there were problems [02:03] bex, explain [02:03] said they didnt exist, do i want to fix that? yes. didn't fix that. [02:03] foxbuntu: that's the stuff :) Thank you so much! [02:03] SQLDb, no problem [02:03] bex, you have to create the directory [02:03] also stopped the minor screen shake :) [02:03] ok [02:03] SQLDb, common issue [02:03] and don't create it in your home directory [02:04] oh [02:04] where then? [02:04] one more question, when I go to the guide, or, leave 'Watch TV', the screen gets all garbled until I drop (cntrl-alt-f1) to console, then skip (alt-f7) back to X, easy fix for that too? [02:04] bex, anywhere you like other than there [02:04] tgm4883_laptop: how do you enable EIT [02:04] vbman11_, err, in mythtv-setup? [02:05] SQLDb, switch your guide profile to low CPU [02:05] tgm4883_laptop: I can't get mine to grab data [02:05] bex, you could use /var/lib/mythtv/recordings [02:05] vbman11_, where do you live? [02:05] ok [02:05] foxbuntu: ahh, I thought 2800xp was pretty beefy, I'll have to upgrade I guess :) [02:05] Colorado [02:05] SQLDb, I build machines as a side business [02:05] vbman11_, are you sure your cable company is broadcasting EIT data? [02:06] SQLDb, my lowest proc is a the 5000+ X2 (dual core) [02:06] Yea my tv gets the data [02:06] vbman11_, hmm [02:06] not sure then, i don't use EIT myself [02:06] vbman11_, you have to have a tuner that supports EIT [02:06] foxbuntu: still garbled in the live guide. I've got a box with the TV that I can see on the top left and everything else is garbage [02:07] I have a sabrent saa7134 [02:07] if there's a hotkey for screenshot, I can take one [02:07] SQLDb, I think you are just too under powered for that machine [02:07] if I drop to con, then, back to X, it's just fine... [02:07] but I'm looking at this (http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/EIT) page and I don't know how to get to the mythweb settings [02:08] almost smells like a resolution issue [02:08] the guide that was released in MythTV .21 is more cpu intensive than before [02:08] SQLDb, printscreen [02:08] SQLDb, what video card do you ahve? [02:08] foxbuntu: ATI radeon 9200SE 128Mb [02:08] ahh [02:08] did you enable the ATI drivers? [02:09] or just use what came with it? [02:09] (I mean the default install) [02:09] foxbuntu: It appeared to already be set to ATI when I was poking around [02:09] tgm4883_laptop: where's that save to, do you know? :) [02:09] foxbuntu or tgm4883_laptop: do you know how to get to the mythweb settings [02:09] SQLDb, there is ATI.Radeon, and FGLRX [02:09] foxbuntu: fglrx I believe [02:10] SQLDb, pastebin the output of glxinfo [02:10] foxbuntu: sure, sec [02:10] vbman11_, go to http://backendip/mythweb/settings [02:10] ohh thanks [02:10] lol, The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: [02:10] [02:10] hang on while I do that [02:11] SQLDb, you dont have the fglrx driver setup correctly then [02:11] foxbuntu: fair enough, I did not do anything to it other than change the resolution [02:11] SQLDb, go to the restricted drivers manager [02:11] k [02:12] enable the restricted ATI driver [02:13] restricted drivers manager is empty? [02:13] SQLDb, hmm [02:13] SQLDb, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx [02:14] k, working on that... [02:14] (First time on unbuntu, long time debian user, so at least this isn't TOO confusing :P ) [02:14] yea...its pretty close [02:14] alright, installed the xorg driver [02:14] re-enter the restricted driver mgr? [02:14] edit your xorg.conf to enable fglrx [02:15] ahh [02:15] sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:15] in the device section make the driver fglrx [02:16] All I have is: Identifier "Configured Video Device" in that section... Should I add a driver stanza? [02:16] oh yeah, your xorg isnt right [02:16] hmm [02:16] nice :) [02:17] let me post mine and it should __work__ as I am running ATI on this machine [02:17] oh well, added, I'll restart X [02:17] (maybe re-install) [02:17] no no [02:17] dont restart X [02:17] not yet [02:17] k [02:17] any one help me get my front end to connect , i have run all the updates and my remote front end seems to get the recorded program listings but will not stream the video [02:17] !pastebin [02:17] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/ [02:18] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m39ce8030 [02:19] SQLDb, no you need to modify the driver on that to fglrx and set the default resolution [02:19] so at some point it must be talking to the sql at the other end but maybe something else is wrong I have set the pin to 0001 and using other pin it says access denied using 0001 it says cant connect to database [02:19] is anyone using eit [02:19] foxbuntu: k, got that, restart X now? [02:19] i could really use some help [02:19] SQLDb, yeah give it a try now [02:20] k [02:20] (thanks again so far btw!) [02:20] I had it working before upgrading to the latest version [02:20] SQLDb, no problem [02:20] and yes i upgraded both remote frontend and backend [02:20] yes they can ping eachother [02:21] baalsgate, make sure your db username and password match the conf in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt on your frontend [02:21] and yes they have unique host names [02:21] "Low graphics mode" [02:21] interesting, never seen that one before :) [02:21] yes the passwords match [02:21] baalsgate, did you make it so SQL is not bound to loopback on your backend? [02:21] (I know, the rez is off probably) [02:21] SQLDb, it means your X conf is still off [02:22] foxbuntu ooow can that change in the upgrade i think i had to do that before [02:22] SQLDb, try this: sudo aticonfig --initial [02:22] baalsgate, it can [02:22] nothing to do, terminating [02:22] baalsgate, you can change it in MCC easy now [02:22] foxbuntu where is it set ? [02:22] MCC ? [02:23] baalsgate, MCC > Services > MySQL service > Enable [02:23] mythbuntu contol centre [02:23] oh [02:23] SQLDb, will it let you change the res? [02:24] lemme try, sec [02:24] prob not [02:25] hmm could have something there back in a sec [02:25] SQLDb, in that low graphics mode, try selecting a monitor and such that matches up and it should fix your xorg [02:26] SQLDb, you might need to restart too [02:27] hmm, yeah, it's only offering 800x600 and 640x480 now, will try a reboot [02:28] SQLDb, yeah might have a hung up module [02:28] indeed [02:30] still low-graphics mode, tossed me back into 'vesa' from fglrx [02:32] try just selecting the stuff from those menus [02:33] I think, K, trying 'ati' (what it was set at iirc) [02:34] SQLDb, yeah...ati is the open source version [02:34] yeah, I'm more of an nvidia person myself, so, if it's anything like nv, it sucks :P [02:34] SQLDb, it will prob work better anyways because fglrx install glx [02:35] I think I might try a fresh download and a re-install, it smells like something went horribly wrong here... [02:35] SQLDb, its not bad [02:35] the non oss version just has better controls really [02:36] SQLDb, if you are going to reload the system there is an option in advanced install where you can enable the real ati drivers [02:36] and it will build properly then [02:37] SQLDb, or I know this company, yeah they are pretty cool www.foxmediasystems.com [02:37] ;) [02:37] foxbuntu: oh, cool, I'll try that, thanks :) I'm definately going to re-install at this point :P [02:37] I saw this leaked post that they will have a Phenom 9850 based system [02:37] ok thanks made some progress can now play streems that are listed in recorded programs :) [02:38] baalsgate, there ya go :) [02:38] no live tv still :( [02:38] baalsgate, check the Wiki's [02:38] but its closer :) [02:38] thanks for that foxbuntu your tip was on the money ! [02:39] baalsgate, every once in a while [02:39] :)( [02:39] er [02:39] :) [02:41] music having DecoderMAD failed to open input error 5 [02:42] but it is playing videos from the remote backend which it would not do before [02:43] strange that works but not live tv which should then also work [02:43] baalsgate, prob need to make sure everything on the backend is setup correctly [02:44] live tv works on the local front end but not the remote front end [02:45] baalsgate, make sure the IP's match on the first page of general in mythtv-setup [02:46] when using a remote frontend they need to be the smae, neither can be 127.0.0.1 [02:47] yea i got that [02:49] hows vnc connect ? instead of me having to go to the other end of the house to work the x console up there [02:49] i saw the option in the MCC [02:50] tightvnc connect to that ? [03:04] baalsgate, yeah, any vnc viewer will work [03:04] baalsgate, personally I use gnome-rdp but thats so I can have my RDP and VNC in the same place [03:05] i am using an hauppauge remote and wondered if there was a default to bring up the search menu when in the music player? [03:06] ian_001, no [03:07] unless its some key Im not aware of [03:07] I F'ed something up and now myth is not detecting my tuner card [03:08] could someone help maybe? [03:23] bex what did you do? [03:29] Where are the default settings stored in the MySQL database (the settings that any new client will take) ? [03:30] TheBlasphemer, don't know, you could look here http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:DB_Table [03:32] They aren't stored in the DB AFAIK [03:32] Myth doesn't make much use of database default values either, the defaults are mostly coded into the source. [03:47] well changed back what i changed [03:47] but for probed info it says "failed to open" [03:49] the only other thing i did was set the directories [04:25] what do i need to install a .tar.gz? [04:27] to read a faq? [04:28] maybe try google? [04:28] linux is going to be rough if you start out asking how to open archives [04:30] darthanubis, we all start somewhere [04:32] i think somehow i dont have the bttv driver anymore [04:39] my new video card for my build made mythtv work like it should [04:39] the onboard card worked [04:39] but I had to use "normal" as opposed to "cpu++" [04:40] I could not use sync with opengl to refuce jitter [04:40] I can turn all that stuff on now [04:42] mythtvzmserver is not starting upon boot [04:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythplugins/+bug/212460/ [04:56] how do i get it to detect my tuner card? [05:01] superm1: you around ? [05:38] One way to do this is to modify the ZM startup script to also start/stop mythzmserver. [05:38] How does one do this exactly? [05:43] how can I tell if my card supports EIT? [05:48] anyone? [06:15] please? [06:16] foxbuntu or tgm4883_laptop: are you still on? [06:28] hi. id like to access the media on my external hhd connected to my laptop from my mythbox [06:29] im not clever enough to work out where to start :( [06:29] was hoping to get some advice here? [08:24] stevetv: what os is on the laptop ? [08:29] doje.. hi. thanks. its windowsxp [08:30] stevetv: ok, did you share the drive / folder from xp ? [08:30] i have samba working.. so i can easily transfer files from my lappy to /myth/video .. but i dont want to need to do that all the time unless i need to [08:30] yes its shared [08:31] so you want to access without copying? [08:32] yeah. i can watch media stored in my /video directory on my laptop, i want to go the other way and watch media stored on my laptop on my myth box [08:32] your original quest said you wanted to "access" it - sounds like you can copy the files ? [08:32] ah [08:32] doje.. my bad. sorry [08:32] np [08:33] I'm sorta new to ubuntu, do you know how to get to the package installer ? [08:34] yup [08:34] search for cifs [08:34] or i can apt-get .. whatever [08:34] cifs? .. what does it do? [08:35] well, like a samba client [08:35] if you have samba working you prolly have the samba client installed - I don't know how to work that as well [08:35] with cifs, you can mount the windows drive into your video directory [08:36] yeah samba works. i believe that i'll need to mount the laptop drive within linux, and then tell mythtv to look there for media [08:36] oh .. right so seemingly i do need cifs then. [08:36] can i ask.. mythtv is able to look in multiple directories for videos correct? [08:36] stevetv: I can probably walk you though that [08:37] no, but you can add a symbolic link or mount the samba share right in the video directory myth is using [08:38] ok.. ill just add the cifs packages. [08:40] stevetv: let me know when you done [08:41] ok.. im looking for it now [08:41] my system reports it as cifs-mount (openSUSE) [08:44] err.. i cant find it in package manager :( [08:45] stevetv: how do you search for things with apt-get ? [08:45] oh wait.. is it part of samba [08:47] ok, what's you laptop's name ? [08:47] i found libjcifs-java [08:47] but... [08:48] try this: mount -t cifs //laptopname/sharename /mnt [08:48] and smbclient [08:51] smbclient is like ftp - put, get, etc... - I think you need cifs [08:52] did you try the mount command (needs root) [08:52] > [08:52] ? [08:52] yeah i tried it as sudo. [08:52] what happened ? error ? [08:54] if it worked, ls /mnt should show the share contents [08:54] err.. sorry im slightly retarded :D ... im not great with networking.. in my network places in windows, i'd like to mounts \\BRIAN\Downloads [08:55] ok, in linux you have to replace all the \ with / [08:56] so mount -t cifs //BRIAN/Downloads /mnt [08:56] so sudo mount -t cifs //BRIAN/Dowloads [08:56] haha.. yeah.. i'll try [08:57] it might be easier to do: sodu bash [08:57] mount error: could not find target server. TP name BRIAN/Downloads not found [08:57] that will give you a root shell so you don't have to keep styping sudo [08:57] ok [08:57] :( [08:58] are you on a home network ? [08:58] yeah [08:58] ok, do you know the IP of the laptop ? [08:58] for example, i can ssh into my mythbox with no problem, and access mythweb from my laptop [08:58] yes [08:59] edit /etc/hosts (editor of your choice) [08:59] add a new line with the IP of the machine and the name (BRIAN) [09:00] I suggest lower case though [09:00] ok.. [09:00] so like: 192.168.1.99 brian [09:01] save it and try the mount command again ( !mount ) [09:02] ok .. so i added my laptops ip to hosts [09:02] you added the IP and name right ? [09:02] try the same command as before? [09:02] yes ip and name [09:03] try ping brian [09:03] scratch that - just try the mount command again [09:04] is there a password on the share at all ? [09:05] yeah theres a password [09:05] which i get asked for and enter [09:05] that's a good sign! [09:05] mount error 113 = no route to host [09:06] hmmm, wasn't expecting that one... [09:06] haha.. [09:06] ok,let's verify IP addys [09:07] on the xp machine, open a command prompt and type: ipconfig [09:09]