[00:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> Hi there guys. Please could someone suggest a really good sound card and tv card. I've been saving for a while now and am looking to spend it on building a top quality htpc rig.
[00:12] <MythbuntuGuest44> I have been looking but I'll admit I'm a bit of a newbie. Any suggestions?
[00:13] <MythbuntuGuest44> I'm thinking dual pvr-150's or should I go for something else?
[00:14] <hads> MythbuntuGuest44: Capturing SD or HD?
[00:14] <hads> MythbuntuGuest44: The PVR500 is like two PVR150 cards on one board which might appeal.
[00:15] <MythbuntuGuest44> SD but hopefully will be upgrading to HD. Is there a card that'll do both?
[00:16] <MythbuntuGuest44> I was looking at the pvr-500. I read there were some quality problems but couldn't find any info if that's been sorted. You have any problems?
[00:16] <hads> It depends where you are/what kind of HD etc.
[00:16] <hads> I don't use a PVR500
[00:17] <SHADOW__X> MythbuntuGuest44: the pvr 500 issues where resolved
[00:17] <SHADOW__X> that was along time ago
[00:17] <MythbuntuGuest44> I'm living in Ireland and will be connected to sky tv
[00:17] <hads> Sky who normally use NDS encryption?
[00:18] <SHADOW__X> sattelite?
[00:18] <MythbuntuGuest44> Thanks SHADOW_X
[00:18] <hads> If so you'll need to go from their STB to analog to the analog input on your PVR150/etc.
[00:18] <MythbuntuGuest44> Now I'm entering the realm of I don't know.
[00:19] <SHADOW__X> are you using sattelite cable
[00:19] <SHADOW__X> satellite tv*
[00:19] <hads> Using a Sky box?
[00:19] <MythbuntuGuest44> All I have at the moment is sky tv. I would like to build a box that'll take over all my media content and if possible record tv.
[00:20] <MythbuntuGuest44> Yea using a sky box.
[00:20] <hads> Then you'll have to output from the Sky box (like you currently do to the TV) into the analog input on a capture card.
[00:20] <hads> The PVR150 is a good choice for that.
[00:20] <SHADOW__X> does your box have a firewire port?
[00:21] <MythbuntuGuest44> Thank you hads, that sounds great!
[00:21] <TheBlasphemer> Ok, got the nvidia drivers loaded, but now I can't pick a HD resolution :( I need either 1920x1080p, any idea how I can set that up? I tried editing xorg.conf but all it does is have gdm start in low-graphics mode :(
[00:21] <hads> SHADOW__X: I've not heard of firewire outside the US really. Not Sky anyway.
[00:21] <SHADOW__X> oh so we win?
[00:22] <MythbuntuGuest44> I haven't bought a box yet. I'll be buying and building everything from scratch. I'm pretty sure fire wire will be an option.
[00:23] <SHADOW__X> well if your box has firewire there isnt a garrruuntteee
[00:23] <SHADOW__X> that it will work
[00:23] <SHADOW__X> it might might not
[00:23] <MythbuntuGuest44> What about the sond card. Creative sucks when it comes to linux support. No probs on the firewire.
[00:24] <hads> Firewire output from the STB is a FCC thing, so only places which are covered by the FCC will have it.
[00:24] <SHADOW__X> oh
[00:24] <SHADOW__X> so if your outside the us and it has it itll worjk
[00:24] <SHADOW__X> ?
[00:24] <SHADOW__X> maybe we lose then
[00:26] <MythbuntuGuest44> In Ireland we're pretty much stuck with Sky or Ntl. Unless you set up your own satellite for free view, which is looking like a plan at the moment.
[00:27] <SHADOW__X> do all 3
[00:28] <hads> Here you can get Sky and then use their satellite for Freeview also.
[00:29] <MythbuntuGuest44> I'm looking for an up to date site that has pretty much everything in one place to choose from. I'm having a hard time making sense of the wiki's and then there's trying to get suppoert for PAL over NTSC.
[00:30] <MythbuntuGuest44> Thanks hads. Here we have pretty much the same. I'm happy with two pvr-150's or a pvr-500. I'll shop around. It's jusst a good sound card I need now.
[00:34] <MythbuntuGuest44> Any idea on the Hauppauge hybrid receivers?
[00:34] <SHADOW__X> i have a hvr 1800
[00:35] <hads> Some of the HVR cards will work from 2.6.26
[00:35] <hads> Some work now.
[00:35] <SHADOW__X> but if you can only use satellite then i dont think digital is for you
[00:35] <hads> Hauppauge has a page on it somewhere.
[00:35] <hads> SHADOW__X: satellite is digital
[00:35] <hads> DVB-S
[00:36] <MythbuntuGuest44> Sorry guys when you say didital...?
[00:36] <SHADOW__X> can you record straight from there
[00:36] <SHADOW__X> hads: ?
[00:36] <hads> MythbuntuGuest44 will be able to record via analog from his Sky box and DVB-S from Freeview.
[00:37] <hads> DVB is like ASwhatever you guys have in the US
[00:37] <MythbuntuGuest44> Things are starting to make sense. Thaks guys!
[00:38] <SHADOW__X> qam is over the cable line vsb is atsc over the air
[00:38] <hads> SHADOW__X: DVB-S is digital satellite, DVB-T over the air
[00:38] <SHADOW__X> ah ok
[00:38] <hads> (in the rest of the world)
[00:38] <SHADOW__X> gotcha
[00:38] <SHADOW__X> is our satellite system the same
[00:38] <SHADOW__X> ?
[00:39] <hads> Not sure
[00:39] <MythbuntuGuest44> I have a hell of a lot to learn...
[00:39] <hads> SHADOW__X: ATSC and DVB are similar standards
[00:40] <MythbuntuGuest44> Could you guys suggest a sound card? I was looking at the Chaintech AV-710. great reviews and supported under linux. Can't find a plave to buy it.
[00:40] <SHADOW__X> ah ok hads
[00:41] <hads> MythbuntuGuest44: Pretty much anything works these days.
[00:42] <MythbuntuGuest44> Thanks hads. Ibelieve Creative is the best but they really don't supprt linux. What are you using?
[00:42] <hads> Whatever is onboard
[00:44] <MythbuntuGuest44> I have a nice Sound Blaster X-fi that's just a paper weight waiting for the day drivers will be released for linux. Still just a beta. I thought onboard wasn't always the best. Or is that pretty much in the past?
[00:50] <TheBlasphemer> How can I enable the "nvidia" restricted driver from the console ? (the screen is completely garbled, so I need to get it enabled without a UI :/)
[00:53] <SHADOW__X> TheBlasphemer: what video card do you have
[00:53] <MythbuntuGuest44> Thnaks for all the help hads and SHADOW_X, gnite!
[00:54] <SHADOW__X> mhm
[00:55] <TheBlasphemer> SHADOW__X: A recent nVidia one, don't know the exact model, but I think it's either a 6XXX or 7XXX
[00:58] <SHADOW__X> alright
[00:58] <SHADOW__X> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[01:00] <TheBlasphemer> Is that all there is to it? simply installing that package is enough :/?
[01:02] <SHADOW__X> si senor
[01:07] <TheBlasphemer> hmmmz, display still garbled after a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:07] <TheBlasphemer> I'm pretty sure that actually enabling those drivers will fix things (I
[01:07] <TheBlasphemer> (I've done so with a lots of trouble on the garbled display, but that's not something I want to write down for my dad to remember if I ever have to clean the overlay directory :/)
[01:09] <TheBlasphemer> Ah
[01:09] <TheBlasphemer> sudo nvidia-xconfig fixed it :)
[01:09] <TheBlasphemer> Thanks for getting me started though :)
[01:13] <stevetv> hi.  id like to access the media on my external hhd connected to my laptop from my mythbox
[01:13] <stevetv> im not clever enough to know where to start :(
[01:22] <stevetv> and i do love the time difference between australia and the rest of the world :( .. i'll check back later. danke
[01:28] <dmandell> quit
[01:28] <dmandell> exit
[01:47] <SQLDb> is there a common issue or page I can refer to on fairly poor quality live / recorded TV on mythbuntu using a pvr-150? I see lines whenever there's a lot of action, and, in general it seems a tiny bit blurry.
[01:48] <tgm4883_laptop> SQLDb, increase your video bitrate in recording profiles
[01:48] <SQLDb> tgm4883_laptop: I did that, hit the one for 'Live TV' right? Bumped it to 10000
[01:48] <SQLDb> IDK how much it matters, but, I'm displaying to the 42" screen via VGA out / in
[01:49] <tgm4883_laptop> screenshot?
[01:49] <SQLDb> don't have one right now, I let me see if I can grab one from one of the recorded vids
[01:52] <SQLDb> got one, give me a second (I'm displaying this on another computer this time, so, I'm pretty sure it's not my display hardware)
[01:55] <SQLDb> tgm4883_laptop: here ya go http://i34.tinypic.com/dm8zzd.png
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> I take it the interlacing issue is just because it's a screenshot?  ie, not visable to the naked eye?
[01:57] <SQLDb> tgm4883_laptop: it's pretty noticable on either the TV or this CRT monitor
[01:58] <vbman11_> Hi all! How do I enable EIT in mythtv?
[01:58] <SQLDb> Hardware on the recording box is: AMD XP 2800+ 2.5Ghz (I think), 640Mb DDR2 ram, 250Gb SATA HDD, 128Mb ATI Radeom 9200 (I think)
[01:59]  * SQLDb goes to cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:59] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, that a frontend too?
[01:59] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: it pulls double-duty, and, I sometimes use a couple other boxes as frontends (never at the same time)
[02:00] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, you on 8.04?
[02:00] <foxbuntu> if so switch your playback profile to cpu--
[02:00] <foxbuntu> or slim
[02:00] <bex> is this channel for user support?
[02:00] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: I just downloaded it yesterday.... is there an easy way to tell?
[02:00] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, your on 8.04
[02:02] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: cpu-- resulted in more lines
[02:02] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, try slim
[02:02] <bex> what are the default storage group directories?
[02:02] <foxbuntu> bex, you have to create them
[02:02] <bex> yeah i did but there were problems
[02:03] <vbman11_> bex, explain
[02:03] <bex> said they didnt exist, do i want to fix that? yes. didn't fix that.
[02:03] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: that's the stuff :) Thank you so much!
[02:03] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, no problem
[02:03] <tgm4883_laptop> bex, you have to create the directory
[02:03] <SQLDb> also stopped the minor screen shake :)
[02:03] <bex> ok
[02:03] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, common issue
[02:03] <tgm4883_laptop> and don't create it in your home directory
[02:04] <bex> oh
[02:04] <bex> where then?
[02:04] <SQLDb> one more question, when I go to the guide, or, leave 'Watch TV', the screen gets all garbled until I drop (cntrl-alt-f1) to console, then skip (alt-f7) back to X, easy fix for that too?
[02:04] <foxbuntu> bex, anywhere you like other than there
[02:04] <vbman11_> tgm4883_laptop: how do you enable EIT
[02:04] <tgm4883_laptop> vbman11_, err, in mythtv-setup?
[02:05] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, switch your guide profile to low CPU
[02:05] <vbman11_> tgm4883_laptop: I can't get mine to grab data
[02:05] <tgm4883_laptop> bex, you could use /var/lib/mythtv/recordings
[02:05] <tgm4883_laptop> vbman11_, where do you live?
[02:05] <bex> ok
[02:05] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: ahh, I thought 2800xp was pretty beefy, I'll have to upgrade I guess :)
[02:05] <vbman11_> Colorado
[02:05] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, I build machines as a side business
[02:05] <tgm4883_laptop> vbman11_, are you sure your cable company is broadcasting EIT data?
[02:06] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, my lowest proc is a the 5000+ X2 (dual core)
[02:06] <vbman11_>  Yea my tv gets the data
[02:06] <tgm4883_laptop> vbman11_, hmm
[02:06] <tgm4883_laptop> not sure then, i don't use EIT myself
[02:06] <foxbuntu> vbman11_, you have to have a tuner that supports EIT
[02:06] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: still garbled in the live guide. I've got a box with the TV that I can see on the top left and everything else is garbage
[02:07] <vbman11_> I have a sabrent saa7134
[02:07] <SQLDb> if there's a hotkey for screenshot, I can take one
[02:07] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, I think you are just too under powered for that machine
[02:07] <SQLDb> if I drop to con, then, back to X, it's just fine...
[02:07] <vbman11_> but I'm looking at this (http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/EIT) page and I don't know how to get to the mythweb settings
[02:08] <SQLDb> almost smells like a resolution issue
[02:08] <foxbuntu> the guide that was released in MythTV .21 is more cpu intensive than before
[02:08] <tgm4883_laptop> SQLDb, printscreen
[02:08] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, what video card do you ahve?
[02:08] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: ATI radeon 9200SE 128Mb
[02:08] <foxbuntu> ahh
[02:08] <foxbuntu> did you enable the ATI drivers?
[02:09] <foxbuntu> or just use what came with it?
[02:09] <foxbuntu> (I mean the default install)
[02:09] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: It appeared to already be set to ATI when I was poking around
[02:09] <SQLDb> tgm4883_laptop: where's that save to, do you know? :)
[02:09] <vbman11_> foxbuntu or tgm4883_laptop: do you know how to get to the mythweb settings
[02:09] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, there is ATI.Radeon, and FGLRX
[02:09] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: fglrx I believe
[02:10] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, pastebin the output of glxinfo
[02:10] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: sure, sec
[02:10] <tgm4883_laptop> vbman11_, go to http://backendip/mythweb/settings
[02:10] <vbman11_> ohh thanks
[02:10] <SQLDb> lol, The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[02:10] <SQLDb>  
[02:10] <SQLDb> hang on while I do that
[02:11] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, you dont have the fglrx driver setup correctly then
[02:11] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: fair enough, I did not do anything to it other than change the resolution
[02:11] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, go to the restricted drivers manager
[02:11] <SQLDb> k
[02:12] <foxbuntu> enable the restricted ATI driver
[02:13] <SQLDb> restricted drivers manager is empty?
[02:13] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, hmm
[02:13] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:14] <SQLDb> k, working on that...
[02:14] <SQLDb> (First time on unbuntu, long time debian user, so at least this isn't TOO confusing :P )
[02:14] <foxbuntu> yea...its pretty close
[02:14] <SQLDb> alright, installed the xorg driver
[02:14] <SQLDb> re-enter the restricted driver mgr?
[02:14] <foxbuntu> edit your xorg.conf to enable fglrx
[02:15] <SQLDb> ahh
[02:15] <foxbuntu> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:15] <foxbuntu> in the device section make the driver fglrx
[02:16] <SQLDb> All I have is:        Identifier      "Configured Video Device" in that section... Should I add a driver stanza?
[02:16] <foxbuntu> oh yeah, your xorg isnt right
[02:16] <foxbuntu> hmm
[02:16] <SQLDb> nice :)
[02:17] <foxbuntu> let me post mine and it should __work__ as I am running ATI on this machine
[02:17] <SQLDb> oh well, added, I'll restart X
[02:17] <SQLDb> (maybe re-install)
[02:17] <foxbuntu> no no
[02:17] <foxbuntu> dont restart X
[02:17] <foxbuntu> not yet
[02:17] <SQLDb> k
[02:17] <baalsgate> any one help me get my front end to connect , i have run all the updates and my remote front end seems to get the recorded program listings but will not stream the video
[02:17] <foxbuntu> !pastebin
[02:17] <Zinn> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/
[02:18] <foxbuntu> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m39ce8030
[02:19] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, no you need to modify the driver on that to fglrx and set the default resolution
[02:19] <baalsgate> so at some point it must be talking to the sql at the other end but maybe something else is wrong I have set the pin to 0001 and using other pin it says access denied using 0001 it says cant connect to database
[02:19] <vbman11_> is anyone using eit
[02:19] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: k, got that, restart X now?
[02:19] <baalsgate> i could really use some help
[02:19] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, yeah give it a try now
[02:20] <SQLDb> k
[02:20] <SQLDb> (thanks again so far btw!)
[02:20] <baalsgate> I had it working before upgrading to the latest version
[02:20] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, no problem
[02:20] <baalsgate> and yes i upgraded both remote frontend and backend
[02:20] <baalsgate> yes they can ping eachother
[02:21] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, make sure your db username and password match the conf in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt on your frontend
[02:21] <baalsgate> and yes they have unique host names
[02:21] <SQLDb> "Low graphics mode"
[02:21] <SQLDb> interesting, never seen that one before :)
[02:21] <baalsgate> yes the passwords match
[02:21] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, did you make it so SQL is not bound to loopback on your backend?
[02:21] <SQLDb> (I know, the rez is off probably)
[02:21] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, it means your X conf is still off
[02:22] <baalsgate> foxbuntu ooow can that change in the upgrade i think i had to do that before
[02:22] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, try this: sudo aticonfig --initial
[02:22] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, it can
[02:22] <SQLDb> nothing to do, terminating
[02:22] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, you can change it in MCC easy now
[02:22] <baalsgate> foxbuntu where is it set ?
[02:22] <baalsgate> MCC ?
[02:23] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, MCC > Services > MySQL service > Enable
[02:23] <foxbuntu> mythbuntu contol centre
[02:23] <baalsgate> oh
[02:23] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, will it let you change the res?
[02:24] <SQLDb> lemme try, sec
[02:24] <foxbuntu> prob not
[02:25] <baalsgate> hmm could have something there back in a sec
[02:25] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, in that low graphics mode, try selecting a monitor and such that matches up and it should fix your xorg
[02:26] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, you might need to restart too
[02:27] <SQLDb> hmm, yeah, it's only offering 800x600 and 640x480 now, will try a reboot
[02:28] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, yeah might have a hung up module
[02:28] <SQLDb> indeed
[02:30] <SQLDb> still low-graphics mode, tossed me back into 'vesa' from fglrx
[02:32] <foxbuntu> try just selecting the stuff from those menus
[02:33] <SQLDb> I think, K, trying 'ati' (what it was set at iirc)
[02:34] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, yeah...ati is the open source version
[02:34] <SQLDb> yeah, I'm more of an nvidia person myself, so, if it's anything like nv, it sucks :P
[02:34] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, it will prob work better anyways because fglrx install glx
[02:35] <SQLDb> I think I might try a fresh download and a re-install, it smells like something went horribly wrong here...
[02:35] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, its not bad
[02:35] <foxbuntu> the non oss version just has better controls really
[02:36] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, if you are going to reload the system there is an option in advanced install where you can enable the real ati drivers
[02:36] <foxbuntu> and it will build properly then
[02:37] <foxbuntu> SQLDb, or I know this company, yeah they are pretty cool www.foxmediasystems.com
[02:37] <foxbuntu> ;)
[02:37] <SQLDb> foxbuntu: oh, cool, I'll try that, thanks :) I'm definately going to re-install at this point :P
[02:37] <foxbuntu> I saw this leaked post that they will have a Phenom 9850 based system
[02:37] <baalsgate> ok thanks made some progress can now play streems that are listed in recorded programs :)
[02:38] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, there ya go :)
[02:38] <baalsgate> no live tv still :(
[02:38] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, check the Wiki's
[02:38] <baalsgate> but its closer :)
[02:38] <baalsgate> thanks for that foxbuntu your tip was on the money !
[02:39] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, every once in a while
[02:39] <foxbuntu> :)(
[02:39] <foxbuntu> er
[02:39] <foxbuntu> :)
[02:41] <baalsgate> music having DecoderMAD failed to open input error 5
[02:42] <baalsgate> but it is playing videos from the remote backend which it would not do before
[02:43] <baalsgate> strange that works but not live tv which should then also work
[02:43] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, prob need to make sure everything on the backend is setup correctly
[02:44] <baalsgate> live tv works on the local front end but not the remote front end
[02:45] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, make sure the IP's match on the first page of general in mythtv-setup
[02:46] <foxbuntu> when using a remote frontend they need to be the smae, neither can be 127.0.0.1
[02:47] <baalsgate> yea i got that
[02:49] <baalsgate> hows vnc connect ? instead of me having to go to the other end of the house to work the x console up there
[02:49] <baalsgate> i saw the option in the MCC
[02:50] <baalsgate> tightvnc connect to that ?
[03:04] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, yeah, any vnc viewer will work
[03:04] <foxbuntu> baalsgate, personally I use gnome-rdp but thats so I can have my RDP and VNC in the same place
[03:05] <ian_001> i am using an hauppauge remote and wondered if there was a default to bring up the search menu when in the music player?
[03:06] <foxbuntu> ian_001, no
[03:07] <foxbuntu> unless its some key Im not aware of
[03:07] <bex> I F'ed something up and now myth is not detecting my tuner card
[03:08] <bex> could someone help maybe?
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> bex what did you do?
[03:29] <TheBlasphemer> Where are the default settings stored in the MySQL database (the settings that any new client will take) ?
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> TheBlasphemer, don't know, you could look here http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:DB_Table
[03:32] <hads> They aren't stored in the DB AFAIK
[03:32] <hads> Myth doesn't make much use of database default values either, the defaults are mostly coded into the source.
[03:47] <bex> well  changed back what i changed
[03:47] <bex> but for probed info it says "failed to open"
[03:49] <bex> the only other thing i did was set the directories
[04:25] <bex> what do i need to install a  .tar.gz?
[04:27] <darthanubis> to read a faq?
[04:28] <darthanubis> maybe try google?
[04:28] <darthanubis> linux is going to be rough if you start out asking how to open archives
[04:30] <tgm4883_laptop> darthanubis, we all start somewhere
[04:32] <bex> i think somehow i dont have the bttv driver anymore
[04:39] <darthanubis> my new video card for my build made mythtv work like it should
[04:39] <darthanubis> the onboard card worked
[04:39] <darthanubis> but I had to use "normal" as opposed to "cpu++"
[04:40] <darthanubis> I could not use sync with opengl to refuce jitter
[04:40] <darthanubis> I can turn all that stuff on now
[04:42] <darthanubis> mythtvzmserver is not starting upon boot
[04:53] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythplugins/+bug/212460/
[04:56] <bex> how do i get it to detect my tuner card?
[05:01] <doje> superm1: you around ?
[05:38] <darthanubis> One way to do this is to modify the ZM startup script to also start/stop mythzmserver.
[05:38] <darthanubis> How does one do this exactly?
[05:43] <vbman11_> how can I tell if my card supports EIT?
[05:48] <vbman11_> anyone?
[06:15] <vbman11_> please?
[06:16] <vbman11_> foxbuntu or tgm4883_laptop: are you still on?
[06:28] <stevetv> hi.  id like to access the media on my external hhd connected to my laptop from my mythbox
[06:29] <stevetv> im not clever enough to work out where to start :(
[06:29] <stevetv> was hoping to get some advice here?
[08:24] <doje> stevetv: what os is on the laptop ?
[08:29] <stevetv> doje.. hi. thanks. its windowsxp
[08:30] <doje> stevetv: ok, did you share the drive / folder from xp ?
[08:30] <stevetv> i have samba working.. so i can easily transfer files from my lappy to /myth/video .. but i dont want to need to do that all the time unless i need to
[08:30] <stevetv> yes its shared
[08:31] <doje> so you want to access without copying?
[08:32] <stevetv> yeah.  i can watch media stored in my /video directory on my laptop, i want to go the other way and watch media stored on my laptop on my myth box
[08:32] <doje> your original quest said you wanted to "access" it - sounds like you can copy the files ?
[08:32] <doje> ah
[08:32] <stevetv> doje.. my bad. sorry
[08:32] <doje> np
[08:33] <doje> I'm sorta new to ubuntu, do you know how to get to the package installer ?
[08:34] <stevetv> yup
[08:34] <doje> search for cifs
[08:34] <stevetv> or i can apt-get .. whatever
[08:34] <stevetv> cifs? .. what does it do?
[08:35] <doje> well, like a samba client
[08:35] <doje> if you have samba working you prolly have the samba client installed - I don't know how to work that as well
[08:35] <doje> with cifs, you can mount the windows drive into your video directory
[08:36] <stevetv> yeah samba works.  i believe that i'll need to mount the laptop drive within linux, and then tell mythtv to look there for media
[08:36] <stevetv> oh .. right so seemingly i do need cifs then.
[08:36] <stevetv> can i ask.. mythtv is able to look in multiple directories for videos correct?
[08:36] <doje> stevetv: I can probably walk you though that
[08:37] <doje> no, but you can add a symbolic link or mount the samba share right in the video directory myth is using
[08:38] <stevetv> ok.. ill just add the cifs packages.
[08:40] <doje> stevetv:  let me know when you done
[08:41] <stevetv> ok.. im looking for it now
[08:41] <doje> my system reports it as cifs-mount (openSUSE)
[08:44] <stevetv> err.. i cant find it in package manager :(
[08:45] <doje> stevetv: how do you search for things with apt-get ?
[08:45] <stevetv> oh wait.. is it part of samba
[08:47] <doje> ok, what's you laptop's name ?
[08:47] <stevetv> i found libjcifs-java
[08:47] <stevetv> but...
[08:48] <doje> try this:  mount -t cifs //laptopname/sharename /mnt
[08:48] <stevetv> and smbclient
[08:51] <doje> smbclient is like ftp - put, get, etc... - I think you need cifs
[08:52] <doje> did you try the mount command (needs root)
[08:52] <doje> >
[08:52] <doje> ?
[08:52] <stevetv> yeah i tried it as sudo.
[08:52] <doje> what happened ? error ?
[08:54] <doje> if it worked, ls /mnt should show the share contents
[08:54] <stevetv> err.. sorry im slightly retarded :D ... im not great with networking.. in my network places in windows, i'd like to mounts \\BRIAN\Downloads
[08:55] <doje> ok, in linux you have to replace all the \ with /
[08:56] <doje> so mount -t cifs //BRIAN/Downloads /mnt
[08:56] <stevetv> so sudo mount -t cifs //BRIAN/Dowloads
[08:56] <stevetv> haha.. yeah.. i'll try
[08:57] <doje> it might be easier to do: sodu bash
[08:57] <stevetv> mount error: could not find target server.  TP name BRIAN/Downloads not found
[08:57] <doje> that will give you a root shell so you don't have to keep styping sudo
[08:57] <doje> ok
[08:57] <stevetv> :(
[08:58] <doje> are you on a home network ?
[08:58] <stevetv> yeah
[08:58] <doje> ok, do you know the IP of the laptop ?
[08:58] <stevetv> for example, i can ssh into my mythbox with no problem, and access mythweb from my laptop
[08:58] <stevetv> yes
[08:59] <doje> edit /etc/hosts (editor of your choice)
[08:59] <doje> add a new line with the IP of the machine and the name (BRIAN)
[09:00] <doje> I suggest lower case though
[09:00] <stevetv> ok..
[09:00] <doje> so like: 192.168.1.99        brian
[09:01] <doje> save it and try the mount command again  (  !mount  )
[09:02] <stevetv> ok .. so i added my laptops ip to hosts
[09:02] <doje> you added the IP and name right ?
[09:02] <stevetv> try the same command as before?
[09:02] <stevetv> yes ip and name
[09:03] <doje> try ping brian
[09:03] <doje> scratch that - just try the mount command again
[09:04] <doje> is there a password on the share at all ?
[09:05] <stevetv> yeah theres a password
[09:05] <stevetv> which i get asked for and enter
[09:05] <doje> that's a good sign!
[09:05] <stevetv> mount error 113 = no route to host
[09:06] <doje> hmmm, wasn't expecting that one...
[09:06] <stevetv> haha..
[09:06] <doje> ok,let's verify IP addys
[09:07] <doje> on the xp machine, open a command prompt and type: ipconfig
[09:09] <stevetv> haha.. sorry. i entered the wrong ip address into hosts
[09:09] <stevetv> ive corrected it
[09:10] <stevetv> now i think that i mounted the directory
[09:10] <doje> yeah, that's what "no route to host" means
[09:10] <stevetv> :)
[09:10] <stevetv> so... its mounted.
[09:10] <doje> cool.  1/2 there
[09:10] <stevetv> i think.. wait.. how do i check if its mounted
[09:10] <doje> you can see files ?
[09:10] <doje> ls /mnt
[09:10] <doje> also: mount
[09:10] <doje> ls /mnt should list files on the share
[09:11] <stevetv> it does
[09:12] <doje> cool, now unmount it so we can put it where you really want it
[09:12] <doje> umount /mnt
[09:12] <stevetv> ... one question before we go on.  id need to remount this if i were to turn off my puter correct
[09:12] <doje> we can have it auto mounted
[09:13] <stevetv> ok.. well get to that.
[09:13] <stevetv> its unmounted
[09:13] <doje> where is your myth video directory ?
[09:14] <doje> cd into it
[09:15] <doje> basically, you need to create an empty directory where you want to mount that share to (instead of /mnt)
[09:16] <doje> if you put it inside the myth video directory, then myth will see al the videos in it
[09:16] <stevetv> doje.. ok.. im getting there :D
[09:17] <doje> :)
[09:17] <stevetv> ok.. so create a directory in ~/myth/video
[09:17] <stevetv> i can call it anything yes?
[09:18] <doje> yes
[09:18] <stevetv> ok.. so i called it /mythtv/video/usbdrive
[09:18] <doje> cool
[09:18] <doje> now edit /etc/fstab
[09:19] <doje> as root
[09:20] <stevetv> oook
[09:20] <stevetv> it looks complicated
[09:20] <doje> that file tells the system what things get mounted where - we're going to add the parameters from that mount command u used
[09:20] <doje> it's not that bad
[09:21] <doje> they started using some kind if drive guids so there's a lot of crazy numbers now
[09:21] <stevetv> totally
[09:21] <doje> just add a new line at the end
[09:21] <stevetv> do i just need to add a line with the mount command we used before?
[09:22] <doje> sort of
[09:22] <doje> what was the mount command that worked ?
[09:23] <stevetv> mount -t cifs //BRIAN/Downloads /mnt
[09:23] <doje> the fstab format goes:  remote_location     local_mount_point   fs_type  options   n1   n2
[09:23] <doje> ok
[09:24] <doje> one thing, ~ won't work in fstab
[09:25] <doje> is it /home/mythtv   ?
[09:25] <stevetv> my video directory?
[09:25] <stevetv> not its /var/lib/mythtv/videos
[09:25] <stevetv> its just the default for mythbuntu
[09:26] <doje> cd ~/myth/video
[09:26] <doje> pwd
[09:26] <doje> should be like: /home/brian/myth/video
[09:27] <stevetv> sweet.
[09:27] <doje> yes ?
[09:27] <stevetv> yes!
[09:27] <stevetv> great
[09:28] <doje> in fstab you need:  //BRIAN/Downloads      /home/brian/myth/videos    cifs     users,username=brian,password=asdf   0 0
[09:28] <stevetv> doje... yep. got it
[09:28] <doje> I think :)
[09:29] <stevetv> so that mounts it correct?
[09:29] <doje> adsf = actual password - you have to put it in there so it doesn't prompt
[09:29] <doje> save fstab
[09:30] <stevetv> and simlinks it to my /mythtv/video
[09:30] <doje> CORRECTION:  //BRIAN/Downloads      /home/brian/myth/videos/usbdrive    cifs     users,username=brian,password=asdf   0 0
[09:31] <doje> you don't need a symlink as we're mounting it right in myth's dir
[09:31] <stevetv> oh.. great.
[09:32] <doje> you should be able to then do: mount /home/brian/myth/videos/usbdrive
[09:32] <stevetv> tick
[09:32] <stevetv> ok.. thank. ive got it sorted from here.
[09:33] <stevetv> haha.. woohoo. works!!
[09:33] <doje> sweet!
[09:34] <doje> I forgot to ask, do you want it to be read only or writeable ?
[09:34] <stevetv> read only
[09:35] <stevetv> just to watch the media on the drive
[09:35] <doje> ok, in fstab, add ro as an option, ro,users,username.....
[09:35] <doje> then umount and mount it again
[09:37] <doje> you can do just 'mount' to see a list of everything mounted - you should then see "ro" listed for that share
[09:38] <stevetv> ok. done
[09:39] <stevetv> so.. fstab will run every time linux starts correct?
[09:39] <doje> hehe, i was just going to say that (it doesn't really "run" though)
[09:40] <stevetv> :S ... newbie
[09:40] <doje> it will mount everything there unless you add option "noauto"
[09:40] <stevetv> great.
[09:40] <stevetv> perfect in fact
[09:40] <doje> it will try to mount I should say
[09:40] <stevetv> will the world end if for any reason the usb drive is unplugged.. or the laptop is off?
[09:40] <stevetv> or will it just not be able to mount it
[09:41] <doje> anything it can't it will skip, so if the laptop isn't on or the share isn't there all is well
[09:41] <stevetv> great
[09:42] <stevetv> thanks for your time doje
[09:42] <doje> you'd have to call the mount /home/brian/.... to mount it
[09:42] <doje> hey, no problem
[09:42] <doje> just watching mythtv =P
[09:43] <stevetv> :P
[09:44] <doje> I finally got my nvidia running HD - i took a week
[10:20] <sebrock> Are anyone else experiencing slow vnc connection to mythbuntu?
[10:20] <sebrock> even on desktop
[10:56] <sebrock_> ?
[12:15] <SmokeyD> hey people, anybody knows if there is a multimedia device that is able to run mythtv?
[12:17] <SmokeyD> I'd like to have a small device in my livingroom (preferably wifi enabled) that I can use to play music and videos on my tv/stereo. I don't like the firmware of most of the commercial systems. Maybe there is a commercial device which I can hack to run mythubuntu?
[12:17] <SmokeyD> I can of course build my own system with a mini-atx board and stuff, but a pre existing device is cheaper and easier I guess
[12:47] <sebrock_> Anyone else having slow VNC to mythbuntu 8.04.1? Even in desktop (ie not OpenGL)
[13:12] <bsusa> hello
[13:12] <bsusa> is their anyway of adding more channels to mythstream?
[13:18] <sebrock_> good question I would like to know that aswell.
[13:19] <sebrock_> Sure I guess you can do it manually in the db, but there is maybe some easier way
[13:20] <bsusa> i cant find anything about it
[13:20] <sebrock_> checked mysql?
[13:21] <sebrock_> bsusa, I guess I found it
[13:22] <sebrock_> go to /usr/share/mythtv/mythstream
[13:22] <sebrock_> and you'll have streams.res
[13:22] <sebrock_> add your stream there
[13:22] <sebrock_> and follow the syntax of the other items
[13:25] <sebrock_> tell me if it worked
[13:26] <bsusa> so do i edit the stream.res file and add the strems right
[13:28] <sebrock_> bsusa, yes
[13:28] <sebrock_> be sure to add it correct
[13:45] <sebrock_> bsusa, did it work?
[14:16] <bsusa> sry was doing it, might do it nex time. It didnt work
[15:49] <TerryJo> hi
[15:49] <TerryJo> i am installing mythbuntu from the live cd
[15:50] <TerryJo> its asking to select a remote control but im not quite ure which to select
[15:50] <TerryJo> can I have some help?
[15:51] <laga> you can always decide later in the control centre.
[15:51] <laga> it's best to select the remote you have :)
[15:51] <TerryJo> thats the dilemna
[15:51] <TerryJo> theres something royally odd about this control, im not entirely certain which one it is
[15:52] <TerryJo> it came with the mce version of the pvr-150
[15:52] <laga> well
[15:52] <laga> is it an MCE remote?
[15:53] <TerryJo> it almost looks like an mce remote, but it isnt
[15:53] <TerryJo> but it works with ista media center
[15:53] <TerryJo> not the xp media center though
[15:53] <laga> no clue.. try the MCE option for now, you can always change it later
[15:53] <TerryJo> alrighty
[15:55] <TerryJo> just curious, does the remote work outside of mythtv (ie: do the direction buttons function as arrow keys etc.)?
[15:55] <hads> Not by default
[15:55] <TerryJo> but i can make i do that?
[15:56] <hads> Quite possibly
[15:57] <TerryJo> ok
[15:57] <TerryJo> its not a big issue tho
[16:10] <jphillip> if its the hauppauge grey then you want that hauppauge remote option
[16:11] <TerryJo> nah its black one with a round gree start button
[16:11] <jphillip> sounds like mce
[16:11] <jphillip> hauppauge grey has a round green power button in the upper left
[16:13] <TerryJo> http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/15-116-015-11.jpg
[16:14] <jphillip> ya thats mce
[16:15] <TerryJo> okie
[16:15] <TerryJo> another question
[16:16] <TerryJo> im doing mythtv setup
[16:16] <TerryJo> and its asking for a security pin
[16:16] <TerryJo> but i have no idea what or where that is
[16:17] <TerryJo> ooh never mind
[16:19] <TerryJo> these options are a bit daunting
[16:19] <TerryJo> vbi format channel frquency table
[16:20] <laga> the defaults often work fine.
[16:20] <TerryJo> ok
[16:20] <laga> regarding frequency table: it's probably obvious what to use
[16:20] <laga> especially if you live in europe ;)
[16:20] <TerryJo> except
[16:20] <jphillip> some of those tv options are so people from around the world can all use the same product
[16:20] <TerryJo> lol to the europe part
[16:20] <jphillip> filled with junk so laga can have tv
[16:20] <TerryJo> but out of us-cale us-cable-hrc us-cable-irc?
[16:21] <TerryJo> it can be changed later right?
[16:21] <laga> yes
[16:21] <TerryJo> ok
[16:21] <jphillip> everything can be changed later, so don't worry if you do something wrong
[16:22] <jphillip> you prob want us-cable
[16:28] <TerryJo> uhm
[16:28] <TerryJo> wat about channel data for non north america?
[16:28] <TerryJo> non?
[16:28] <TerryJo> *none
[16:46] <jphillip> TerryJo ideally you should be using http://www.schedulesdirect.org/
[16:47] <TerryJo> is that US and Canada? I'm not from there...
[16:49] <laga> where are you from?
[16:49] <TerryJo> St. Vincent/Grenadines
[16:49] <TerryJo> in the caribbean
[16:50] <laga> do you have local programmes? or satellite feeds?
[16:50] <TerryJo> i suppose i can use the US listings (what i did in VMC was use a us listing provider, and edit the channels in VMC to match mine)
[16:50] <TerryJo> im just not sure if the same is possible in Myth
[16:50] <TerryJo> only two local channels
[16:51] <TerryJo> but i dont care about the listings for them
[16:52] <laga> how do the listings for the US channels differ? just a time offset?
[16:52] <jphillip> ah my bad, thought you were in the us from the us-cable
[16:53] <TerryJo> yes
[16:53] <TerryJo> during DST they are the same
[16:53] <TerryJo> like now
[16:53] <laga> well, you can fiddle with the offset.. not sure if that's the best way, but you can do that in mythtv-setup
[16:56] <TerryJo> hmm
[16:56] <TerryJo> on the SD sign up page, cuntry drop down
[16:56] <TerryJo> *country
[16:57] <TerryJo> my country isn't there, i get that i would have to use US listings, but i wish there was a different drop down for me to select where i live and where I want the lisitings from
[16:57] <TerryJo> i feel like it would be lying to put US
[16:57] <jphillip> unfortunately there are no longer any free listings for the US
[16:58] <TerryJo> i noticed that
[16:59] <TerryJo> but i would still like listings
[16:59] <laga> TerryJo: i guess you can talk to the SD guys
[17:03] <TerryJo> ok
[17:03] <TerryJo> thanks, both of you for the help
[17:34] <mythuser23> Hi, is anyone there that could help me?
[17:36] <laga> !ask
[17:36] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[17:36] <mythuser23> Ok, sorry. dont use IRC that much
[17:37] <mythuser23> So i just put a Nvidia card in my mythbox machine to do video out and it worked just fine in the beging and displayed everything fine but after installing the drivers and restarting it didnt work so great and than started to display in black and white only. how can i get it to display with color and the right format on my tv?
[17:37] <laga> you need to set the tv standard in xorg.conf. i guess nvidia-settings might have an option for this
[17:38] <laga> (but it's possible it'll overwrite your keyboard definition, so you might have to fix that afterwards to get back a non US keyboard)
[17:39] <mythuser23> so i do need to manually go into xorg.conf file? cause i've tried doing that before and it wont let me edit it
[17:40] <laga> try nvidia-settings
[17:42] <mythuser23> it says unable to assign attribute and repeats with specified on line X number
[17:42] <laga> it should still give you a window?
[17:42] <mythuser23> another user had suggested using envyg. said works better?
[17:43] <mythuser23> it was fallowed by another error saying "unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap""
[17:43] <laga> well, that'd be the difference between configuring your driver correctly and installing a newer version of the driver..
[17:44] <mythuser23> is what?
[17:44] <laga> nvidia-settings VS envy-ng