/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/25/#ubuntu-ops.txt

ompaulnickrud, have a small brown bread with cream cheese and jelly, just the one mind you :)00:01
ompaulI will now go away and sleep00:01
ompaulcheers all00:01
nickrudompaul, now that was cruel. I am at work, and my fridge is empty.00:01
ubottuIn ubottu, Kybish said: This is an autoreply:00:02
* Hobbsee raises eyebrows01:38
Hobbseesmallfoot tried *again*?01:38
naliothoh yes01:39
Hobbseedid he try #freenode too?01:42
Hobbseei thought he'd figured out that he had no chance the first time, or something.01:42
FlannelHobbsee: When mom says no... go ask dad.02:38
Hobbseeheh02:38
PiciI was just reading the scrollback too.03:10
Myrttifunky04:03
naliothtown04:11
tonyyarussocrier04:11
bazhangLickGavle> WatchDragon: I cannot be allowed back into #linux... im way to cool for that so im evading :=)04:21
Myrttimeh04:21
nickrud!latest04:35
ubottuA higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.04:35
bazhangcompiling gparted? o,004:35
nickrudfor a learning exercise it's excessive ;)04:36
Flannelnickrud: thank you... Ive been looking for that factoid for two weeks at least04:36
bazhang:)04:36
nickrud!nonono04:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nonono04:36
bazhang!phail04:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about phail04:37
nickrudhm, used to have the factoid database linked in, wonder why it's not anymore04:37
jussi01grrr, hate this: http://imagebin.ca/view/jC0jwZmy.html06:59
nickrudjussi01 are we going to be able to search the bot database again some time? I think I remember you saying something about resources ...07:00
jussi01nickrud: what do you mean search the bot database?07:01
jussi01!me07:01
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:01
jussi01nickrud: you can...07:01
nickrudah, the old link is missing from this:07:01
nickrud!nonon07:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nonon07:01
Flanneljussi01: Ever fix my DB entry? (I already know the answer)07:01
nickrud!flannel07:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about flannel07:01
Flannelnudge nudge ;)07:01
Flannelnickrud: Not factoid07:02
Flannel@btlogin07:02
ubottuFlannel: Error: You don't have the bantracker capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.07:02
jussi01Flannel: you are evil and dont deserve that capability07:02
nickrudhahahahahaha, you're still a nooboodYY!07:02
Flanneljussi01: sounds good.  Means I don't have to clear my bans, and can plead ignorance when people ask me to unban them07:02
jussi01rofl07:03
nickrudjust poke jussi01, I'm sure he'd be glad to handle your bans07:03
* jussi01 delegates it to nickrud07:03
nickrudluckily I'm not paid, and can do the old pfffpt ;P07:03
jussi01Flannel: please try now07:04
nickrudonly thing worse than managing employees is managing volunteers07:04
Flannel@btlogin07:04
jussi01:D07:04
Flannelyay07:04
* Hobbsee wonders who wants to deal with smallfoot, then.07:05
Hobbseeseeing as he excelled himself last night.07:05
jussi01Hobbsee: care to enlighten me what the situation is?07:05
StevenKHow a woman who can add glines, that might help.07:05
FlannelHobbsee: He was doing it in here today too, twice, and almost word for word.07:05
Hobbseejussi01: have a look at the logs.  it's...pretty priceless.07:06
HobbseeFlannel: yeah, i think my last night was your today.07:06
FlannelHobbsee: I don't believe you! lalalalalalalalallalalala07:06
Hobbseeor, something07:06
Flanneljussi01: don't be confused when you read the same conversation with him in here four hours apart.  It really did happen.07:07
jussi01yay for fun - which tz he in anyone know?07:07
jussi01Hobbsee: Ill take a shot at talking to him - someone ping me if he drops by07:08
Hobbseejussi01: i doubt it'll owkr.07:09
Hobbseejussi01: besides, nalio*th gave him a good going over yesterdya07:09
jussi01Hobbsee: Meh - Im always up for a challenge.07:10
bazhanghad a good hour-long chat with he of the diminutive sandal and in the end he decided to just stay in #cooking and #defocus; was surprised that the showed up here after all that.07:12
jussi01roight... just got through that... what a genius....07:16
Hobbseehehe07:16
bazhangpasted some text from ubuntu-motu where he was /me hugs nickname to show how nice and helpful he was.07:17
bazhangI counter-pasted with @banlog material and he had nothing left to say at that point.07:18
bazhangconsidering that envy components are entering linux-restricted-modules, the *new* envyng factoid seems a bit over the top in terms of how well it does (or in this case doesn't)07:22
Hobbseei was just thinking about that.07:22
jussi01bazhang: is this that daniel2 guy?07:53
bazhangjussi01, aye07:53
jussi01bazhang: It may work with wubi, but Ive never done it so I dont know07:54
bazhanghe claims to have done it in three minutes via daemon tools07:54
bazhangoops 8 minutes :)08:06
Flannelbazhang: Whats the problem?08:06
bazhangFlannel, some fishy story from daniel 208:07
FlannelHe's probably looking for attention (or is being honest).  Just ignore him (and keep an eye on him)08:08
jpdsTo who might like it: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irssi-plugin-otr/0.2-1~hardy108:35
jussi01meh, irssi... :P08:36
bazhangwow; two minutes stop watching #ubuntu and bedlam breaks out08:40
jussi01rofl08:41
jpdsbazhang: Just op yourself before you go. That way they'll still think you're there.08:41
bazhang jpds :008:42
Flannelthat way you come back to a bunch of queries08:44
tonyyarussojpds: Uh, so if I have -backports enabled, and am using the primary archive, why can't my apt see the package?08:44
jpdstonyyarusso: Appears the binaries have built, but still have to move to the archive.08:45
tonyyarussojpds: They appear on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/irssi-plugin-otr/08:45
Flanneltonyyarusso: Have you updated your package cache? how do you know its not seen? apt-cache policy show anything funky?08:46
jpdstonyyarusso: Odd.08:46
tonyyarussoFlannel: yes, ran apt-get update.  apt-cache policy doesn't show it existing.08:46
jpdstonyyarusso: Although there are no ~hardy1 .deb's.08:46
tonyyarussonor apt-cache search08:46
Flannel2.1~hardy1 is the package we're looking for?08:47
tonyyarussojpds: oh, doh08:47
Flanneler, 2-1~hardy108:47
tonyyarussogood eye08:47
Flannelbazhang: *buntu is ubuntu08:48
jpdsGuess we have to wait a little bit more then.08:48
bazhangFlannel, sorry not sure what you are referring to.08:49
bazhangis pikeshouse doing an audit? :)08:51
Flannelbazhang: yeah, not sure about that bot.09:44
bazhangFlannel, I seem to remember it was okay now.09:45
FlannelYeah.  Or at least, unofficially. 2008/06/02 at 14:2409:48
bazhangright; the higher-ups chatted with afterdeath (bot's owner) and seemingly cleared it09:48
FlannelRight.  at 14:24 on the second of six09:49
bazhanghehe09:49
smallfoot-Help, I am banned from #ubuntu+1 channel :(09:59
smallfoot-I need goto that channel, because my Ubuntu has problem, the graphics run in crap mode, and its not good graphics09:59
smallfoot-Please, unban me, so I can get help how install Nvidia proprietary device driver10:00
smallfoot-i cant put my screen resolution up10:00
Flannelsmallfoot-: Which Ubuntu version are you using?10:00
smallfoot-8.10a310:00
gnomefreakthis seems like 3rd day in row you  have asked to be unbanned10:00
Tm_Tsmallfoot-: also, why you are banned there?10:00
Tm_Tgnomefreak: indeed it is10:00
bazhanghe was talking about his ban in -ot10:01
smallfoot-i think because i informed people that i had made a channel called #ubuntu-social10:01
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: dont run 8.10 with nvidia drivers10:01
Flannelsmallfoot-: If you need to know how to install nvidia drivers, alpha software is probably not for you10:01
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: you need some knowledge of how xorg.conf is formatted10:01
smallfoot-gnomefreak, i usually put the nvidia drivers with jockey, but it dont let me10:01
bazhangasked to come here; then after much ado started spamming all #ubuntu channels with that club of his10:01
gnomefreakFlannel: its not that its a conflict in xorg.conf10:01
smallfoot-gnomefreak, i know xorg.conf10:01
Hobbseegnomefreak: have you read the entire chatlog?10:01
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: not well enough if your asking10:02
Tm_Tbazhang: aww, that, hrr10:02
gnomefreakHobbsee: for?10:02
smallfoot-bazhang, not all channels, and it was not spam, it was nice invitation to a community benefiting service10:02
Hobbseegnomefreak: yesterday.  with smallfoot- in it.10:02
gnomefreaknope not yesterdays i just passed by it10:02
smallfoot-Hobbsee, its not too late to the right thing10:02
gnomefreakah yes he is the channel guy10:03
Hobbseesmallfoot-: after your performance yesterday, i'm not prepared to unban you for *at least* a week.10:03
gnomefreaki do think i read that yesterday10:03
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: learn xorg.conf than fix it10:03
smallfoot-gnomefreak, well they stole my channel from me10:03
Hobbseesmallfoot-: please leave - you're wasting your breath.10:03
Tm_Tsmallfoot-: yup, it's not too late to do the right thing, for you atleast10:03
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: good10:03
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: you were not following the rules of freenode10:03
bazhangsmallfoot-, what about your cloak?10:03
smallfoot-gnomefreak, i know how to change the "Driver" from "nv" to "nvidia", but the drivers are not installed10:03
Hobbseesmallfoot-: you'll only be unbanned if you actually prove you've learned your lesson.10:03
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: no tthe driver the whole file10:04
smallfoot-Tm_T, what i can do? im bammed, ic ant do anytthing10:04
gnomefreaknot the driver10:04
Tm_Tsmallfoot-: learn your lesson?10:04
smallfoot-bazhang, what about it?10:04
Hobbseesmallfoot-: you can think about how you should have behaved.10:04
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: you nee to re write the file10:04
bazhangsmallfoot-, your actions contravene freenode rules quite clearly10:04
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: go learn it than fix it, please stop asking to be unbanned for a week.10:04
smallfoot-if i am banned, thats no problem, but now my ubuntu is broken, so i need unban10:05
gnomefreakbazhang: its 5am could you please use smaller words until i run out get coffee and make it :(10:05
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: reinstall 8.0410:05
* Hobbsee suggests everyone ignores smallfoot-, as he's been given his solution, so there is nothing left to do.10:05
gnomefreakthat is the help you will get for it10:05
bazhangsmallfoot-, please part now; come back in a week to ten days from now.10:05
gnomefreakHobbsee: eh he can be handled easy see Tm_T10:05
HobbseeTm_T: <310:06
smallfoot-ok, well i will find another ubuntu channel where you is not the boss10:06
HobbseeTm_T: (please)10:06
smallfoot-and they will help10:06
smallfoot-i dont need you10:06
bazhangbye smallfoot-10:06
Hobbseesmallfoot-: bye then.10:06
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: that isnt gonna hppen10:06
gnomefreakwe run 98% of them10:06
smallfoot-Hobbsee, my ubuntu dont work, i cant get help, because you banned me, its your fault my ubuntu is broken10:06
bazhangefnet has ubuntu channels iirc10:06
gnomefreaksmallfoot-: i told you how to fix it.10:06
Hobbseeha ha ha.10:06
bazhanghe left10:06
FlannelHobbsee: you broke his ubuntu!  you're so hurtful!10:06
gnomefreakmoron10:07
Hobbseezomg!10:07
bazhangmoran10:07
Hobbseegnomefreak: yes.  clearly you haven't read his chatlog from yesterday.10:07
gnomefreakjust for record you need to run nvidia-config to fix it :)10:07
Hobbseegnomefreak: apparently the fact that i have boobs is the only reason i have ops.10:07
gnomefreakHobbsee: i read it10:07
gnomefreaknalioth: laid into him10:07
HobbseeTm_T: i don't suppose you can enforce his week long ban by force, please?10:07
gnomefreaki was here the whole time ;)10:07
Hobbseegnomefreak: i guess you can't go harsher than 'moron' in a logged channel.  pity.10:08
bazhangheh10:08
gnomefreakwell i very well can10:08
FlannelHobbsee: theres a plain correlation there.  obviously.10:08
Hobbseehmmm.  #ubuntu-se...is where?10:08
gnomefreakbut eh dealing with CC over that isnt worth my time10:08
FlannelSweden10:08
gnomefreakcentral america10:08
Myrttiyou sure?10:08
gnomefreakis it/?10:08
Flannelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.se10:09
* Hobbsee wonders if he's up to no good there too10:09
bazhangsweden, central america10:09
MyrttiNafallo: ^10:09
gnomefreakwe should all join :)10:09
gnomefreakscare him10:09
Flannelbazhang: theyre practically the same place10:09
Hobbseegnomefreak: well, i just did.  join, that is10:09
bazhangnow part of NAFTA!10:09
gnomefreakHobbsee: who are the ops speak to one of them10:09
MyrttiNafallo is one10:10
* Hobbsee --> dinner10:10
gnomefreakah good :)10:10
Myrttisweden... central america... where the heck did you get that from10:11
gnomefreakhes yelling harrasment just because our nicks are there10:11
* bazhang goes to look10:11
Flannelgnomefreak: /me hopes -se is logged10:11
Flannelhmmm10:11
gnomefreakit is10:11
gnomefreakFlannel: http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode10:12
Flannelgnomefreak: I'm already there.10:12
gnomefreakah10:12
FlannelBy golly... he's speaking what I can only assume is swedish.10:12
gnomefreakis bra a word?10:13
Myrttijavisst10:14
gnomefreakbra and boobs kind of well are way too close to call it chance10:14
gnomefreakjavisst means nothing to me10:14
jussi01brå is a word iirc10:14
Myrttiyou are thinking in English10:14
Myrttibra = good10:14
bazhangbarnvakter?10:14
FlannelHooray for false cognates?10:15
gnomefreakhe left out not folowing the COC10:15
bazhangsenses a kb coming10:15
Myrttiif you don't understand what he is saying, then leave the channel10:15
Flannelgnomefreak: well, boobs and ops are practically the same word.  You cut one in half and flip it over... its an *obvious* cause/effect relationship.  duh.10:16
gnomefreakplease remind him of that in swedish or i will be forced to find a swedish dictionary and look it up10:16
gnomefreak;)10:16
Myrttia tad childish though10:16
gnomefreakMyrtti: notice im not ther eto cause trouble10:16
gnomefreakif it was i would have said something10:16
* gnomefreak just watching10:16
bazhangsame here10:17
Myrttistill10:17
gnomefreakMyrtti: not right this second im working on tbird breakage10:17
gnomefreakfor local system until archive admins push the proposed fix10:18
bazhangfor him to claim victimhood after yesterday is beyond me10:18
Flannelcan we send factoids to people here?10:18
gnomefreakFlannel: yes10:18
Flannelbazhang: It still doesn't mean we need to provoke him10:18
Myrttiwhy not?10:18
Flannel!away > gardar`away10:18
ubottugardar`away, please see my private message10:19
Flannelgnomefreak: thanks10:19
gnomefreakFlannel: !bleh > Flannel10:19
MyrttiFlannel: exactly10:19
bazhangFlannel, joining is not provoking10:19
Myrttihaha10:19
Myrttisure it is10:19
Flannelbazhang: You really don't have much business in said channel.10:19
bazhangFlannel, seeing if he will misbehave is more like it10:19
Flannelbazhang: -se has its own ops, let them worry about it.10:19
Myrttiand it's not your business to be watching if he misbehaves10:19
Myrttisince you don't have ops there10:19
gnomefreakcant we join any channel we like?10:19
bazhangFlannel, remind me; did you spend an hour with him in PM yesterday?10:19
Myrttisure10:19
Myrttibut it's just provoking him10:20
gnomefreakim not a core dev but im in #uuntu-devel10:20
bazhangFlannel, I did.10:20
Flannelbazhang: Its the equivalent of sitting +o for no good reason, has a chilling effect, against freenode policy, etc.10:20
gnomefreakMyrtti: i did nothing of the sort10:20
Flannelbazhang: I did.  He said he was going to fix it.  I'll see if he replies about it.10:20
Myrttijoining -se and you not even understanding / speaking swedish can sure be interpreted as provoking10:20
Myrttiah, nvm10:20
Flannelgnomefreak: You didn't join -devel just to "watch" someone though.10:20
bazhangFlannel, afaik I can join any channel at any time.10:20
Myrttitis 30'c here and I stink.10:21
gnomefreakFlannel: not jsut one person no and im not there watching him10:21
gnomefreakFlannel: im there10:21
gnomefreakFlannel: im an op in #ubuntu-de and im not dutch10:21
Flannelgnomefreak: german?10:21
jussi01gnomefreak: de is german...10:21
jussi01lol10:21
gnomefreakFlannel: see what i mean ;)10:21
gnomefreakbrb smoke10:22
Flannelbazhang: Thats not the point.  Yes, you *can*, but one could argue you're breaking the CoC by joining at this particular moment, probably for the sole purpose of watching him to hold it against him.10:23
Myrttiit's also called stalking...10:23
bazhanga chilling effect on someone who is lashing out at everyone? plz.10:23
* Myrtti shivers10:23
Flannelbazhang: Just because someone has misbehaved doesn't mean they don't deserve to be treated decently.  Discipline and ridicule are two, very different things.10:24
bazhangFlannel, talking with him for an hour this time, and similarly on two other occasions is treating someone decently.10:25
bazhangFlannel, when they continue be abusive however, that is another matter.10:25
Myrttiand how does joining #ubuntu-se add up to this?10:25
bazhangFlannel, feel free to charge me with coc violations10:25
Myrttiit's not our job to be watching all the #ubuntu channels10:25
jussi01+1 Myrtti10:26
gnomefreakand for the record i was helping him with his nvidia issue, i told him how to fix it sort of i only said come back in a week10:26
Myrttithe channels have their own ops10:26
* gnomefreak not claiming to be an op in there, nor have i said anythign in there but i was pinged in there10:27
Myrttibut if you don't have ops there, and don't understand the language, what the hell are you doing there then except stalking and provoking?10:27
Myrttipardon moi if this sounds harsh10:28
Myrttibut if he acts nice in -se, as he has so far, then there's no point?10:28
bazhangwhat was harsh is what he said to hobb-see earlier; joining is so far from provoking that it is not worth mentioning.10:29
Myrttithe only problem he's having is that he cannot understand why he wasn't allowed to start #ubuntu-channel10:29
bazhangnot so.10:29
gnomefreakMyrtti: feel free to tell him his nvidia issue fix. first what card is it if a 5xxx card he needs -173 and he needs to run nvidia-config and restart it should fix his issue10:29
Myrtti...10:29
bazhangthe problem, which dates back several months is he cannot follow channel rules.10:30
bazhanghe has been PM'ed extensively to no avail.10:30
jussi01bazhang: but its still not your issue in -se?10:30
gnomefreakits either nvidia-config or nvidia config10:30
gnomefreakcant remember but either way that will fix his issue10:30
bazhangso he is the victim here?10:31
gnomefreakproblem is he doesnt know xorg.conf enough to be running 8.1010:31
bazhangthat was a fast turnaround10:31
bazhangreminds me of some other situation, cant recall now10:31
Flannelbazhang: No ones saying he's done nothing wrong, but what he's done has no relevance to his activity in -se10:32
gnomefreakalso he was banned from #ubuntu but i never saw him try to join #ubuntu+1 (not sure if he is banned there or not)10:32
Myrttistalking like that is considered rude - not only by smallfoot- but the -se OPS10:32
MyrttiI've been on IRC too long10:32
bazhanghe is banned in +1 afaik10:32
* Myrtti goes to have a cold shower10:32
bazhangbanned in #u only yesterday (not by moi)10:33
bazhangin -ot many months10:33
gnomefreakoh and im in pm with him helping him10:33
bazhangFlannel, no, quite the opposite; he has done very wrong and still refuses to listen to reason. he is saying he will find a channel where he can do what he wants in #ubuntu channels without rules10:34
Myrttiwell, all the channels have rules - and ops10:36
Flannelbazhang: #ubuntu-se has rules.  We don't have jurisdiction there, this is a moot point.10:36
Myrttiand it's the channels own ops job to see that the rules are followed10:36
Myrttinot ours, as Flannel said10:36
bazhangFlannel, charging me with stalking is not necessary, or violating the coc.10:36
jpdsFlannel: I think we do, as it's in the #*ubuntu* namespace.10:36
Flannelbazhang: I don't believe I ever said anything regarding stalking.  Nor did I say you were violating the CoC10:37
Flanneljpds: No, LoCo teams are autonomous10:37
bazhangFlannel, the 'one could argue' statement seems to have said just that. upthread ^^10:37
Flannelbazhang: Why are you worried anyway?  If he's cronically as bad as he has been in here the past few days, he'll be banned from -se in no time anyway.10:38
gnomefreakjpds: flannel is right however we have every right to be in any channel we feel like it at anytime (unless banned) and since noone said anything in the channel that was off color why cant we hang out there10:38
Flannelbazhang: I mentioned that it could be construed as a violation.  I didnt accuse anyone of anything.10:39
bazhangFlannel, you saying that one could argue I am violating the coc when that is not the case, particularly after all the time and effort I have spent with smallfoot and in light of his behaviour towards hobb-see yesterday.10:39
Flannelbazhang: But regardless, Do you want to be known as an op who pushes peoples buttons?  We're here to enforce rules, not to make people break them.10:39
Flannels/make people/encourage people to/10:40
bazhangFlannel, if you consider me as such a one, then that is your affair; I try to help out as best as I can. the presumptive arguments about coc violations were overboard imo10:42
Flannelbazhang: You can't seriously cite private discussions as reasons I should know that you're not simply provoking him.10:43
bazhangFlannel, I recall having a PM with eleph some weeks back; you felt I was wrong to ban him, so I PM'd him. I do so to mediate not provoke.10:46
Flannelbazhang: I apologise for not being omniscient.10:46
FlannelAnyway, task at hand: AlmightyCthulhu in #ubuntu.  Can't tell if his ban here is the same guy or not10:47
bazhangturns out he was rather ban-worthy after all.10:47
bazhangits baron1984 iirc10:48
FlannelLooks like its the same IP and everything10:48
bazhangdefinitely ban fodder :)10:48
FlannelIt was a month ago though.  We probably ought to unban him here and have a chat with him10:49
* Flannel is still reading logs, so don't hold me to that.10:50
bazhangI always clear my ban list in a day or two (if I remember) :)10:50
FlannelEven if its only to keep S/N in #ubuntu, although he's quieted down it looks like10:51
bazhangalways need limcore around though10:53
gnomefreakwhat is the key combo to change virtual desktops in compiz aand/or out10:53
* gnomefreak was asked by smallfoot and i cant remember to save my life10:53
FlannelHah.  Actually... his nick was originally baron1984.  Definately same guy.10:53
bazhangctrol alt left mouse?10:53
Flannelgnomefreak: ctrl-alt-leftarrow?10:53
gnomefreakthats it thanks10:54
Hobbseegnomefreak: he was in +1, has been so for a few days, and has also spammed it.  you may want to look at logs before speaking.10:54
* bazhang hugs Flannel 10:55
gnomefreakhuh? i said that he never asked about being unbanned from +110:55
bazhanggot to go to work :(10:55
Hobbseeah10:55
Flannelbazhang: Have fun! :)10:55
* Flannel has no idea what bazhang does. Perhaps fun isn't appropriate.10:56
* Hobbsee shakes her head at -se10:56
gnomefreakincoming10:56
gnomefreakbanned in #ubuntuforums10:57
gnomefreakalmighty.....10:57
Flannelby Vorian no less.10:57
Hobbseegnomefreak: [19:32] <gnomefreak> also he was banned from #ubuntu but i never saw him try to join #ubuntu+1 (not sure if he is banned there or not)10:57
Hobbseegnomefreak: but i think i misread slightly, sorry10:58
gnomefreaki meant ask about it10:58
gnomefreaksorry i mixed up words10:58
* Hobbsee is just stunned at people who don't learn, and then others who appear to be defending them.11:02
Hobbseeyou know, i'm getting really bored of limcore's continual trolls in -bugs and such.11:08
Hobbseeand even in #ubuntu11:08
Hobbseelooks like he's moving to -quality now too.11:08
* jpds installs "mc" and gets: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30251/ - at the end of the dpkg run.11:10
gnomefreakah yes i remmeber scrollkeeper errors11:11
gnomefreakthat was a1 though11:12
gnomefreakatleast for intrepid11:12
jpdsHmm, I prefer using tree, ls and mv, cp for files.11:12
Hobbseejpds: yeah, i fail to see hwo that's not a good enough solution, particularly for a desktop11:16
=== Jucato_ is now known as Jucato
Myrttihello moo_cow11:35
* Tm_T hails the newcomers11:37
* Flannel believes moo_cow is forwarded from #ubuntu, and has been logging in/idling on and off for at least a week now.11:38
Myrtti13:38 @,- 25 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@208-117-11-160.block5.gvtc.com!#ubuntu-ops  [by ikonia!n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia, 781773 secs ago]11:39
Tm_Thmm11:39
Tm_Tshould I proceed?11:39
Myrtti@btlogin11:40
Myrttihrm11:40
soundraymsnbot just left #u with a profane quit message11:40
Tm_THobbsee: I unfrotunately can't much follow ubuntu channels but as long as I see when it happens, he'll stay out11:40
HobbseeTm_T: i meant from here, but okay11:42
Tm_THobbsee: ah, I see, I was rescuing a cat so didn't follow11:42
MyrttiFINE. I'm not banning him.11:43
* Myrtti raises her fist11:43
Hobbsee?11:45
Myrttinot banforwarding msnbot here since my brain doesn't cowork with irssi11:45
ubottuIn #ubuntu, aozturk said: ubottu: this is the error message: http://pastebin.ca/108246112:10
aozturkhow can I fix this: http://pastebin.ca/108246112:11
Seeker`aozturk: This isn't a support channel12:12
Myrttiaozturk: ubottu is a bot12:12
ikoniaTm_T: that ban was on a bot that had a pretty nasty exploit link12:37
ikoniaHmmm @btlogin has stopped woroking, has someone reset the database ?12:39
Pici@btlogin12:39
Piciwfm12:39
Tm_Tikonia: what ban?12:39
ikoniahmm12:39
ikoniabtlogin12:39
ikonia@btlogin12:39
ubottuikonia: Error: You don't have the bantracker capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.12:39
ikoniaTm_T: it was Myrtti talking about it, not you, sorry12:40
ikonia@login12:40
ubottuikonia: The operation succeeded.12:40
ikonia@whoami12:40
ubottuikonia: ikonia12:40
Tm_Tikonia: hm12:40
ikoniajussi01: you around ?12:42
Tm_Tikonia: I think he went to summerhome or such12:42
ikoniaah12:42
ikoniawho's looking after the bot at the moment12:43
Tm_Tno idea12:44
Mezjussi01, afaik12:45
Picimaybe its jussio112:45
ikoniathink I've figured out why it's not working12:46
Hobbseehatred?  insanity?12:46
ikonianah, it looks like there is a more granular security section been added to the bot/updated that I've been missed on12:47
* Myrtti yawns12:51
* Tm_T hugs Mez 13:02
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti too13:02
Mezw0013:02
* Mez shoves a sock in Myrtti's mouth13:02
Tm_Ttab revenges13:02
* Myrtti pulls a sock from her mouth, puts it on13:04
Tm_TMyrtti: matching pairs?13:04
MyrttiI've got plenty of socks from the same source13:05
* Mez chuckles13:05
Mezshe didnt steal any at LRL though13:05
Myrttiwe should've swapped the blue t-shirts13:06
Meznooos13:06
Mezmine was cooler13:07
Meztwas KDE13:07
Myrttimine was GUADEC!13:07
MezKDE!13:07
MyrttiGNOME!13:07
Mezssh13:07
Myrttissssshhhh to yourself13:07
Myrttibesides, xfce ftw13:07
Mez:P13:08
* Mez needs a shower13:08
Tm_TMez: and I need KDE shirt :(13:10
MezTm_T, poke sealne13:10
Tm_Tor hug, rather13:11
MyrttiI'll be getting a debian ladyfit ♥13:11
Tm_TI leave poking for Myrtti and ms Hobbs13:11
Mez:O13:11
Tm_TMyrtti: I wanted Ubuntu ladyfit for myself13:11
Tm_TMyrtti: but someone said strict NO for it, so... :(13:12
Myrttiwhy ladyfit?13:13
Tm_Tbecause I have those figures?13:13
Tm_Texcept shoulders but meh13:13
Myrttilolz13:13
Myrttiyeah, right.13:13
Myrtti:-P13:13
* Mez goes to buy boxes13:13
Dave2.wion 11113:25
Dave2...13:25
Tm_Theh13:27
Myrtti.fail Dave213:27
Dave2always :(13:27
Tm_TMez: hug me?13:31
Picihrm.13:59
Pici:/ people resigning.14:06
jpdsPici: Where?14:07
Picijpds: motu-sru.14:07
Picijpds: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-July/004269.html  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-July/004273.html14:08
Pici:(14:08
jpdsYes, it took me some time to tell Launchpad that I wanted to add bug #251760 to "hardy-backports" and not the "dovecot" project.14:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251760 in dovecot "New Dovecot 1.1.x upstream for hardy-backports" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25176014:11
jussio1anyone know how to scroll on putty on n95?14:30
jussio1Myrtti: ?14:31
Tm_Tjussio1: Myrtti is in town14:31
jussio1:(14:32
MezTm_T, sorry, was away buying boxes... I may have overdone it14:36
Tm_Tbuying boxes for...14:39
Dave2to put othesr, smaller boxes in14:40
Dave2other, oto14:40
* Dave2 gives up.14:40
Tm_Theh15:05
Tm_TMez: so, now that you are back from shopping boxes, can I get a hug from you?15:05
* Mez hugs and plugs in 1TB HDD15:09
jussi01_Is mibbit not allowed in -ot?15:12
jussi01_brb, sauna time15:14
Tm_TMez: thank you son15:17
ubottuOdd-rationale called the ops in #ubuntu (LordNeo)15:20
Tm_Tok, I cannot follow #u atm so someone feel free ;)15:25
bazhang:)15:30
Picibleh....15:39
Mezok, so maybe packing all my books in one box wasnt a good idea15:45
Tm_T:p15:45
bazhangI wish my books fit into a single box :)15:46
jussi01_Mez: are you moving?15:46
Mezyep15:46
Tm_Tbazhang: I wish I had books15:47
Mezbazhang, it's a rather large box15:47
jussi01_Mez: where?15:47
bazhangTm_T, haha15:47
Mezback up to birmingham]15:47
bazhangMez, I would need at least a fridge box :)15:47
Mezbazhang, about half that size15:47
Mezbut I sold a lot of my books15:47
bazhangMez, that is still a lot of books15:48
Mezbazhang, indeed15:48
bazhanghere though one tends to hang onto english language books as there is not any barnes and nobles etc15:48
* Mez worked out how many books he's bought in the last 10 months as 7215:48
bazhangwow15:48
bazhang!envy > bazhang15:49
ubottubazhang, please see my private message15:49
Mezthere was a cheap bookstore next to where i had to renew my bus pass15:49
jussi01_hrm, was I just ban evading?? hrm...15:49
Tm_Thrrrr15:50
jussi01_Im connected via mibbit, but Identified... mibbit is banned in -offtopic...15:50
PiciI didn't think that cloaks would override mibbit15:50
jussi01_Pici: weird, cause it lets me in now15:51
jussi01_when it didnt before15:51
PiciI'm trying to ask about it in #freenode, but its full of trolls right now and they'res no one knowledgable around15:54
jussi01_ahh15:55
jussi01_Pici: can you check for certain mibbit is banned in there, and not just the random ip I was given?15:55
Picijussi01_: Its banned15:57
jussi01_Pici: ok, well my host definately overides it15:58
jussi01_cause Im in there now15:58
PiciMine too15:59
Picithats me on mibbit15:59
Hobbseeoh dear.  ZarroBoogs15:59
Pici:)16:00
bazhangyikes!16:00
Picijussi01_: Looks like project cloaks override mibbit, but not unaffiliated ones.16:00
PiciI think.16:01
jussi01_Pici: ahh, ok16:02
PiciI never realized it either.16:02
jussi01_interesting though16:03
=== bazhang is now known as tv7498
Picihrm16:17
=== tv7498 is now known as bazhang
=== stdin_ is now known as stdin
ubottuIn #ubuntu, mandark said: ubottu, it is selected16:57
jussi01@admin capability add17:28
ubottujussi01: (admin capability add <name|hostmask> <capability>) -- Gives the user specified by <name> (or the user to whom <hostmask> currently maps) the specified capability <capability>17:28
jussi01@admin capability add ikonia bantracker17:28
ubottujussi01: The operation succeeded.17:28
jussi01ikonia: there you are17:28
Mezhttp://www.sourceguru.net/archives/14217:32
Pici!ping17:35
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore17:36
ikoniajussi01: stdin sorted me, thanks17:38
ikoniajussi01: appriciated17:38
jussi01ikonia: oh, oops :D17:39
ikoniahe he17:39
orgthingyumm, why where i redirected to here :P ?19:30
jussi01err, Pici?19:32
jussi01@btlogin19:32
jussi01orgthingy: I cant tell at the moment, you will need towait till Pici comes along19:34
orgthingyah, i was redirected from #ubuntu-offtopic :S19:34
orgthingyman19:34
orgthingyompaul: do u know why :S ?19:35
jussi01orgthingy: Ahh, I see now, you had a rather not nice quit message19:35
jussi01[19:39:50] <-- orgthingy (n=eloxoph-@79-71-253-134.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has quit ("PIZZA TIME! FUCK IRC! IM IN HOLIDAYS FFS")19:35
orgthingyjussi01: but it19:36
jussi01!language | orgthingy19:36
ubottuorgthingy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.19:36
orgthingyit's a QUIT message?19:36
Myrttiorgthingy: so?19:36
orgthingyi didnt say it in the channel19:36
Myrttiyes you did19:36
jussi01orgthingy: it appears in channel19:36
ompaulorgthingy, and where to quit messages get sent?19:36
ompaulorgthingy, when you surf close to the shore you can expect to be landed now and again19:37
orgthingyhmm19:39
orgthingyso19:39
ompaul@btlogin19:39
orgthingyi should leave the channel so it wont have the dirty quit message?19:39
Myrttishould you change your quit message?19:40
PiciOr change the message.19:40
ompaulperhaps you have not had enough time to change your mind about how to behave in a ubuntu* and in fact in public on a freenode server19:40
ompaulafter all it is offensive to others to put up with you doing that19:41
ompaulshould we really allow you inflict that on them again?19:41
ompaulor risk you doing that19:41
* ompaul wonders for a while19:41
orgthingyoffensive?19:44
orgthingyhmm19:44
ompaulorgthingy, you don't seem to be a volunteer for the ok I got enough common sense and can go along with that, you seem to be more in the "how far can I push the boat out" club19:44
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
orgthingyompaul: excuse me?19:45
ompaulorgthingy, and what is funny, that is my impression of your behaviour19:45
ompaulyou ain't convinced me otherwise19:45
orgthingyI helped many in ubuntu channels, and reported bugs and suggestions to ubuntu team19:45
orgthingyand i get banned for quit message?19:45
Myrttiorgthingy: offensive is offensive19:45
ompaulwhat is your karma19:45
stdinproviding support does not excuse you from any rules19:45
orgthingyMyrtti: well, what he just said is offensive to me19:46
orgthingy"you don't seem to be a volunteer"19:46
stdinin fact, the more you help the more we expect you to abide by the rules as you *should* know better19:46
Piciorgthingy: If you had used that language in channel you would have gotten a warning from me, but since it was a quit message the only option I have is a banforward.19:46
orgthingywell, here I am, forwarded19:47
PriceChildEvening all.19:47
* Myrtti huggles PriceChild 19:48
Piciorgthingy: So I request that you change the quit message.19:48
orgthingyPici: I did19:48
Myrttijolly good19:48
PriceChildorgthingy: #ubuntu caters for many types of people, and we don't want to prevent anyone's access. We ask everyone stays polite and respectful, refraining from bad language. If you have changed the message then good. We can move on.19:48
Piciorgthingy: Good, I think there was confusion around that point.19:48
orgthingy:)19:49
Picilet me get rid of that forward then19:49
PiciAll set.19:49
ompaulorgthingy, there was no comma in there, where you put the " read it again and maybe you can see what I was saying I can take this to pm so we can stop bothering the planet so you don't have a misunderstanding of what I was saying19:49
ompaulorgthingy, I may have been overly complex in my statement19:50
* ompaul actually thinks ompaul was complex19:50
* ompaul says no more19:50
Piciorgthingy: Anything else we can help you with?19:51
orgthingyPici: no, thanks :)19:52
Piciorgthingy: May I call your attention to the /topic, specifically about idling then? :)19:52
* orgthingy reads the topic19:53
orgthingyoh :(19:53
orgthingyok, bye19:53
Pici:)19:53
jussi01PriceChild: could I confirm you received my message?19:57
PriceChildjussi01: confirmed20:01
jussi01PriceChild: thansk :D20:01
* Myrtti wants to throw a tantrum20:06
Myrttitoo hot!20:06
* PriceChild throws a Myrtti and hopes that is sufficient20:09
Myrttimeh20:09
Myrttimy t-shirt is soaking wet20:09
MyrttiI'm too Nordic for this weather20:09
jussi01lol20:10
jussi01Myrtti: it isnt even hot anymore20:10
* jussi01 opens Myrtti's window20:10
Myrttijussi01: you think my windows weren't open?20:10
Myrttiand yes, I do know it's not hot anymore20:11
jussi01Myrtti: so take a cool shower, and things will be all nice again20:11
FlannelMyrtti: run through the sprinklers20:11
jussi01rofl20:11
Myrttiwas shopping earlier and had the (un)fortunate chance to come home with the first bus after the Flower Weeks Parade20:11
Dave2heat--;20:11
jussi01Myrtti: so...20:12
Myrttiit was FULL20:12
Myrttino air conditioning20:12
Myrttihaving shopping bags with20:12
jussi01Hahahahah20:13
Myrttioh, and I had just eaten at Pizza Rax.20:13
MyrttiMULTIFAIL.20:13
* Dave2 pats the air conditioned buses to/from work20:13
PriceChildDave2: air conditioned busses?!20:13
Dave2with wi-fi on board20:13
PriceChildnow you're taking the mick20:14
Flanneland making stuff up too.20:14
Dave2http://www.gogoldline.co.uk/thamesvalleybusinesspark.php420:14
Dave2(oh, I forgot to mention they're free.)20:14
jussi01Dave2: shh20:15
MyrttiDave2: ... goats.20:15
jussi01Myrtti: rax!?? epic fail!!!20:15
PriceChildIts a friday btw!!! wooo20:15
Dave2Myrtti, nope, no goats on the buses :(20:15
FlannelAre the requirements for getting bots hostmasks the same as regular people?20:15
Dave2http://www.buszone.co.uk/002b021006.JPG # TVP buses.20:15
jussi01Flannel: yep20:16
jussi01Flannel: though not for ubuntu cloaks20:17
Flanneljussi01: I've gotta have an alternate nick already?20:17
jussi01yes20:17
jussi01Flannel: and linked etc20:17
* Flannel wonders if he can have an alternate nick in six weeks.20:17
jussi01Flannel: huh?20:17
Flanneljussi01: The nick we really want for our bot is taken (was used for six days in June).  So I've gotta wait to snag that one.  I'd prefer not to have three nicks (two right now for mask, plus the 'real' one once it times out)20:18
Dave2so ungroup it when you get the other one?20:18
jussi01Flannel: can you not drop one when the time comes?20:19
jussi01hehe20:19
* Flannel didn't think you could unregister nicks.20:20
ompaulFlannel, you can do lots with nicks20:20
jussi01Flannel: the new system rocks :D20:21
Myrttimeh20:23
ompauljussi01, it does fail now and again :)20:24
jussi01ompaul: meh, it still rocks20:25
ompaulrocking fail :)20:25
ompaulit is an improvement in areas20:25
* jpds is still waiting for something like /ns set mlock.20:25
Dave2buh?20:26
ompaulbut it enforces settings that may not make sense and kludged some old privs in the process20:26
ompaulso therefore we get fail20:26
ompaulthere are improvements and these are noted also20:27
ompaulhowever kludging old privs to some random scheme is a bit like hardcoding icons into a gnome app20:27
ompaulso let me rephrase20:28
ompaulHARD CODED VALUES ARE FAIL!20:28
ompaulmeh20:28
ompauljussi01, can you dismiss that one?20:28
jussi01ompaul: yep.... MEH!!!!!20:29
ompauljussi01, you may say that, but I would not ;-)20:29
jussi01oops, IM trolling... :P20:30
jussi01:P:P20:30
ompauljussi01, ehhhhhh perhaps, but you just looked silly from here ;-)20:30
* ompaul runs20:30
jussi01ompaul: ypou should.... :P20:31
* Myrtti hugs ompaul, jussi01 20:32
ompaulhiya Myrtti20:33
ompaulback later20:34
* Myrtti yawns21:04
Tm_Tindeed21:05
MyrttiFYI: http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001474.html21:10
ubottuIn ubottu, Masteredu_ said: what is obottu?21:28
PriceChild!ubottu > masteredu_21:29
ubottumasteredu_, please see my private message21:29
ubottuIn ubottu, Newbie02 said: My problem is viewing resrtickted formats (DVDs) it tells me to to download and install a key but my systems says there is no public key installed21:59
Tm_Tharhar22:04
Myrttinini folks22:07

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