[00:01] nickrud, have a small brown bread with cream cheese and jelly, just the one mind you :) [00:01] I will now go away and sleep [00:01] cheers all [00:01] ompaul, now that was cruel. I am at work, and my fridge is empty. [00:02] In ubottu, Kybish said: This is an autoreply: [01:38] * Hobbsee raises eyebrows [01:38] smallfoot tried *again*? [01:39] oh yes [01:42] did he try #freenode too? [01:42] i thought he'd figured out that he had no chance the first time, or something. [02:38] Hobbsee: When mom says no... go ask dad. [02:38] heh [03:10] I was just reading the scrollback too. [04:03] funky [04:11] town [04:11] crier [04:21] LickGavle> WatchDragon: I cannot be allowed back into #linux... im way to cool for that so im evading :=) [04:21] meh [04:35] !latest [04:35] A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos. [04:35] compiling gparted? o,0 [04:36] for a learning exercise it's excessive ;) [04:36] nickrud: thank you... Ive been looking for that factoid for two weeks at least [04:36] :) [04:36] !nonono [04:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about nonono [04:37] !phail [04:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about phail [04:37] hm, used to have the factoid database linked in, wonder why it's not anymore [06:59] grrr, hate this: http://imagebin.ca/view/jC0jwZmy.html [07:00] jussi01 are we going to be able to search the bot database again some time? I think I remember you saying something about resources ... [07:01] nickrud: what do you mean search the bot database? [07:01] !me [07:01] Hi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [07:01] nickrud: you can... [07:01] ah, the old link is missing from this: [07:01] !nonon [07:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about nonon [07:01] jussi01: Ever fix my DB entry? (I already know the answer) [07:01] !flannel [07:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about flannel [07:01] nudge nudge ;) [07:02] nickrud: Not factoid [07:02] @btlogin [07:02] Flannel: Error: You don't have the bantracker capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. [07:02] Flannel: you are evil and dont deserve that capability [07:02] hahahahahaha, you're still a nooboodYY! [07:02] jussi01: sounds good. Means I don't have to clear my bans, and can plead ignorance when people ask me to unban them [07:03] rofl [07:03] just poke jussi01, I'm sure he'd be glad to handle your bans [07:03] * jussi01 delegates it to nickrud [07:03] luckily I'm not paid, and can do the old pfffpt ;P [07:04] Flannel: please try now [07:04] only thing worse than managing employees is managing volunteers [07:04] @btlogin [07:04] :D [07:04] yay [07:05] * Hobbsee wonders who wants to deal with smallfoot, then. [07:05] seeing as he excelled himself last night. [07:05] Hobbsee: care to enlighten me what the situation is? [07:05] How a woman who can add glines, that might help. [07:05] Hobbsee: He was doing it in here today too, twice, and almost word for word. [07:06] jussi01: have a look at the logs. it's...pretty priceless. [07:06] Flannel: yeah, i think my last night was your today. [07:06] Hobbsee: I don't believe you! lalalalalalalalallalalala [07:06] or, something [07:07] jussi01: don't be confused when you read the same conversation with him in here four hours apart. It really did happen. [07:07] yay for fun - which tz he in anyone know? [07:08] Hobbsee: Ill take a shot at talking to him - someone ping me if he drops by [07:09] jussi01: i doubt it'll owkr. [07:09] jussi01: besides, nalio*th gave him a good going over yesterdya [07:10] Hobbsee: Meh - Im always up for a challenge. [07:12] had a good hour-long chat with he of the diminutive sandal and in the end he decided to just stay in #cooking and #defocus; was surprised that the showed up here after all that. [07:16] roight... just got through that... what a genius.... [07:16] hehe [07:17] pasted some text from ubuntu-motu where he was /me hugs nickname to show how nice and helpful he was. [07:18] I counter-pasted with @banlog material and he had nothing left to say at that point. [07:22] considering that envy components are entering linux-restricted-modules, the *new* envyng factoid seems a bit over the top in terms of how well it does (or in this case doesn't) [07:22] i was just thinking about that. [07:53] bazhang: is this that daniel2 guy? [07:53] jussi01, aye [07:54] bazhang: It may work with wubi, but Ive never done it so I dont know [07:54] he claims to have done it in three minutes via daemon tools [08:06] oops 8 minutes :) [08:06] bazhang: Whats the problem? [08:07] Flannel, some fishy story from daniel 2 [08:08] He's probably looking for attention (or is being honest). Just ignore him (and keep an eye on him) [08:35] To who might like it: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irssi-plugin-otr/0.2-1~hardy1 [08:36] meh, irssi... :P [08:40] wow; two minutes stop watching #ubuntu and bedlam breaks out [08:41] rofl [08:41] bazhang: Just op yourself before you go. That way they'll still think you're there. [08:42] jpds :0 [08:44] that way you come back to a bunch of queries [08:44] jpds: Uh, so if I have -backports enabled, and am using the primary archive, why can't my apt see the package? [08:45] tonyyarusso: Appears the binaries have built, but still have to move to the archive. [08:45] jpds: They appear on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/irssi-plugin-otr/ [08:46] tonyyarusso: Have you updated your package cache? how do you know its not seen? apt-cache policy show anything funky? [08:46] tonyyarusso: Odd. [08:46] Flannel: yes, ran apt-get update. apt-cache policy doesn't show it existing. [08:46] tonyyarusso: Although there are no ~hardy1 .deb's. [08:46] nor apt-cache search [08:47] 2.1~hardy1 is the package we're looking for? [08:47] jpds: oh, doh [08:47] er, 2-1~hardy1 [08:47] good eye [08:48] bazhang: *buntu is ubuntu [08:48] Guess we have to wait a little bit more then. [08:49] Flannel, sorry not sure what you are referring to. [08:51] is pikeshouse doing an audit? :) [09:44] bazhang: yeah, not sure about that bot. [09:45] Flannel, I seem to remember it was okay now. [09:48] Yeah. Or at least, unofficially. 2008/06/02 at 14:24 [09:48] right; the higher-ups chatted with afterdeath (bot's owner) and seemingly cleared it [09:49] Right. at 14:24 on the second of six [09:49] hehe [09:59] Help, I am banned from #ubuntu+1 channel :( [09:59] I need goto that channel, because my Ubuntu has problem, the graphics run in crap mode, and its not good graphics [10:00] Please, unban me, so I can get help how install Nvidia proprietary device driver [10:00] i cant put my screen resolution up [10:00] smallfoot-: Which Ubuntu version are you using? [10:00] 8.10a3 [10:00] this seems like 3rd day in row you have asked to be unbanned [10:00] smallfoot-: also, why you are banned there? [10:00] gnomefreak: indeed it is [10:01] he was talking about his ban in -ot [10:01] i think because i informed people that i had made a channel called #ubuntu-social [10:01] smallfoot-: dont run 8.10 with nvidia drivers [10:01] smallfoot-: If you need to know how to install nvidia drivers, alpha software is probably not for you [10:01] smallfoot-: you need some knowledge of how xorg.conf is formatted [10:01] gnomefreak, i usually put the nvidia drivers with jockey, but it dont let me [10:01] asked to come here; then after much ado started spamming all #ubuntu channels with that club of his [10:01] Flannel: its not that its a conflict in xorg.conf [10:01] gnomefreak, i know xorg.conf [10:01] gnomefreak: have you read the entire chatlog? [10:02] smallfoot-: not well enough if your asking [10:02] bazhang: aww, that, hrr [10:02] Hobbsee: for? [10:02] bazhang, not all channels, and it was not spam, it was nice invitation to a community benefiting service [10:02] gnomefreak: yesterday. with smallfoot- in it. [10:02] nope not yesterdays i just passed by it [10:02] Hobbsee, its not too late to the right thing [10:03] ah yes he is the channel guy [10:03] smallfoot-: after your performance yesterday, i'm not prepared to unban you for *at least* a week. [10:03] i do think i read that yesterday [10:03] smallfoot-: learn xorg.conf than fix it [10:03] gnomefreak, well they stole my channel from me [10:03] smallfoot-: please leave - you're wasting your breath. [10:03] smallfoot-: yup, it's not too late to do the right thing, for you atleast [10:03] smallfoot-: good [10:03] smallfoot-: you were not following the rules of freenode [10:03] smallfoot-, what about your cloak? [10:03] gnomefreak, i know how to change the "Driver" from "nv" to "nvidia", but the drivers are not installed [10:03] smallfoot-: you'll only be unbanned if you actually prove you've learned your lesson. [10:04] smallfoot-: no tthe driver the whole file [10:04] Tm_T, what i can do? im bammed, ic ant do anytthing [10:04] not the driver [10:04] smallfoot-: learn your lesson? [10:04] bazhang, what about it? [10:04] smallfoot-: you can think about how you should have behaved. [10:04] smallfoot-: you nee to re write the file [10:04] smallfoot-, your actions contravene freenode rules quite clearly [10:04] smallfoot-: go learn it than fix it, please stop asking to be unbanned for a week. [10:05] if i am banned, thats no problem, but now my ubuntu is broken, so i need unban [10:05] bazhang: its 5am could you please use smaller words until i run out get coffee and make it :( [10:05] smallfoot-: reinstall 8.04 [10:05] * Hobbsee suggests everyone ignores smallfoot-, as he's been given his solution, so there is nothing left to do. [10:05] that is the help you will get for it [10:05] smallfoot-, please part now; come back in a week to ten days from now. [10:05] Hobbsee: eh he can be handled easy see Tm_T [10:06] Tm_T: <3 [10:06] ok, well i will find another ubuntu channel where you is not the boss [10:06] Tm_T: (please) [10:06] and they will help [10:06] i dont need you [10:06] bye smallfoot- [10:06] smallfoot-: bye then. [10:06] smallfoot-: that isnt gonna hppen [10:06] we run 98% of them [10:06] Hobbsee, my ubuntu dont work, i cant get help, because you banned me, its your fault my ubuntu is broken [10:06] efnet has ubuntu channels iirc [10:06] smallfoot-: i told you how to fix it. [10:06] ha ha ha. [10:06] he left [10:06] Hobbsee: you broke his ubuntu! you're so hurtful! [10:07] moron [10:07] zomg! [10:07] moran [10:07] gnomefreak: yes. clearly you haven't read his chatlog from yesterday. [10:07] just for record you need to run nvidia-config to fix it :) [10:07] gnomefreak: apparently the fact that i have boobs is the only reason i have ops. [10:07] Hobbsee: i read it [10:07] nalioth: laid into him [10:07] Tm_T: i don't suppose you can enforce his week long ban by force, please? [10:07] i was here the whole time ;) [10:08] gnomefreak: i guess you can't go harsher than 'moron' in a logged channel. pity. [10:08] heh [10:08] well i very well can [10:08] Hobbsee: theres a plain correlation there. obviously. [10:08] hmmm. #ubuntu-se...is where? [10:08] but eh dealing with CC over that isnt worth my time [10:08] Sweden [10:08] central america [10:08] you sure? [10:08] is it/? [10:09] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.se [10:09] * Hobbsee wonders if he's up to no good there too [10:09] sweden, central america [10:09] Nafallo: ^ [10:09] we should all join :) [10:09] scare him [10:09] bazhang: theyre practically the same place [10:09] gnomefreak: well, i just did. join, that is [10:09] now part of NAFTA! [10:09] Hobbsee: who are the ops speak to one of them [10:10] Nafallo is one [10:10] * Hobbsee --> dinner [10:10] ah good :) [10:11] sweden... central america... where the heck did you get that from [10:11] hes yelling harrasment just because our nicks are there [10:11] * bazhang goes to look [10:11] gnomefreak: /me hopes -se is logged [10:11] hmmm [10:11] it is [10:12] Flannel: http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode [10:12] gnomefreak: I'm already there. [10:12] ah [10:12] By golly... he's speaking what I can only assume is swedish. [10:13] is bra a word? [10:14] javisst [10:14] bra and boobs kind of well are way too close to call it chance [10:14] javisst means nothing to me [10:14] brå is a word iirc [10:14] you are thinking in English [10:14] bra = good [10:14] barnvakter? [10:15] Hooray for false cognates? [10:15] he left out not folowing the COC [10:15] senses a kb coming [10:15] if you don't understand what he is saying, then leave the channel [10:16] gnomefreak: well, boobs and ops are practically the same word. You cut one in half and flip it over... its an *obvious* cause/effect relationship. duh. [10:16] please remind him of that in swedish or i will be forced to find a swedish dictionary and look it up [10:16] ;) [10:16] a tad childish though [10:16] Myrtti: notice im not ther eto cause trouble [10:16] if it was i would have said something [10:16] * gnomefreak just watching [10:17] same here [10:17] still [10:17] Myrtti: not right this second im working on tbird breakage [10:18] for local system until archive admins push the proposed fix [10:18] for him to claim victimhood after yesterday is beyond me [10:18] can we send factoids to people here? [10:18] Flannel: yes [10:18] bazhang: It still doesn't mean we need to provoke him [10:18] why not? [10:18] !away > gardar`away [10:19] gardar`away, please see my private message [10:19] gnomefreak: thanks [10:19] Flannel: !bleh > Flannel [10:19] Flannel: exactly [10:19] Flannel, joining is not provoking [10:19] haha [10:19] sure it is [10:19] bazhang: You really don't have much business in said channel. [10:19] Flannel, seeing if he will misbehave is more like it [10:19] bazhang: -se has its own ops, let them worry about it. [10:19] and it's not your business to be watching if he misbehaves [10:19] since you don't have ops there [10:19] cant we join any channel we like? [10:19] Flannel, remind me; did you spend an hour with him in PM yesterday? [10:19] sure [10:20] but it's just provoking him [10:20] im not a core dev but im in #uuntu-devel [10:20] Flannel, I did. [10:20] bazhang: Its the equivalent of sitting +o for no good reason, has a chilling effect, against freenode policy, etc. [10:20] Myrtti: i did nothing of the sort [10:20] bazhang: I did. He said he was going to fix it. I'll see if he replies about it. [10:20] joining -se and you not even understanding / speaking swedish can sure be interpreted as provoking [10:20] ah, nvm [10:20] gnomefreak: You didn't join -devel just to "watch" someone though. [10:20] Flannel, afaik I can join any channel at any time. [10:21] tis 30'c here and I stink. [10:21] Flannel: not jsut one person no and im not there watching him [10:21] Flannel: im there [10:21] Flannel: im an op in #ubuntu-de and im not dutch [10:21] gnomefreak: german? [10:21] gnomefreak: de is german... [10:21] lol [10:21] Flannel: see what i mean ;) [10:22] brb smoke [10:23] bazhang: Thats not the point. Yes, you *can*, but one could argue you're breaking the CoC by joining at this particular moment, probably for the sole purpose of watching him to hold it against him. [10:23] it's also called stalking... [10:23] a chilling effect on someone who is lashing out at everyone? plz. [10:23] * Myrtti shivers [10:24] bazhang: Just because someone has misbehaved doesn't mean they don't deserve to be treated decently. Discipline and ridicule are two, very different things. [10:25] Flannel, talking with him for an hour this time, and similarly on two other occasions is treating someone decently. [10:25] Flannel, when they continue be abusive however, that is another matter. [10:25] and how does joining #ubuntu-se add up to this? [10:25] Flannel, feel free to charge me with coc violations [10:25] it's not our job to be watching all the #ubuntu channels [10:26] +1 Myrtti [10:26] and for the record i was helping him with his nvidia issue, i told him how to fix it sort of i only said come back in a week [10:26] the channels have their own ops [10:27] * gnomefreak not claiming to be an op in there, nor have i said anythign in there but i was pinged in there [10:27] but if you don't have ops there, and don't understand the language, what the hell are you doing there then except stalking and provoking? [10:28] pardon moi if this sounds harsh [10:28] but if he acts nice in -se, as he has so far, then there's no point? [10:29] what was harsh is what he said to hobb-see earlier; joining is so far from provoking that it is not worth mentioning. [10:29] the only problem he's having is that he cannot understand why he wasn't allowed to start #ubuntu-channel [10:29] not so. [10:29] Myrtti: feel free to tell him his nvidia issue fix. first what card is it if a 5xxx card he needs -173 and he needs to run nvidia-config and restart it should fix his issue [10:29] ... [10:30] the problem, which dates back several months is he cannot follow channel rules. [10:30] he has been PM'ed extensively to no avail. [10:30] bazhang: but its still not your issue in -se? [10:30] its either nvidia-config or nvidia config [10:30] cant remember but either way that will fix his issue [10:31] so he is the victim here? [10:31] problem is he doesnt know xorg.conf enough to be running 8.10 [10:31] that was a fast turnaround [10:31] reminds me of some other situation, cant recall now [10:32] bazhang: No ones saying he's done nothing wrong, but what he's done has no relevance to his activity in -se [10:32] also he was banned from #ubuntu but i never saw him try to join #ubuntu+1 (not sure if he is banned there or not) [10:32] stalking like that is considered rude - not only by smallfoot- but the -se OPS [10:32] I've been on IRC too long [10:32] he is banned in +1 afaik [10:32] * Myrtti goes to have a cold shower [10:33] banned in #u only yesterday (not by moi) [10:33] in -ot many months [10:33] oh and im in pm with him helping him [10:34] Flannel, no, quite the opposite; he has done very wrong and still refuses to listen to reason. he is saying he will find a channel where he can do what he wants in #ubuntu channels without rules [10:36] well, all the channels have rules - and ops [10:36] bazhang: #ubuntu-se has rules. We don't have jurisdiction there, this is a moot point. [10:36] and it's the channels own ops job to see that the rules are followed [10:36] not ours, as Flannel said [10:36] Flannel, charging me with stalking is not necessary, or violating the coc. [10:36] Flannel: I think we do, as it's in the #*ubuntu* namespace. [10:37] bazhang: I don't believe I ever said anything regarding stalking. Nor did I say you were violating the CoC [10:37] jpds: No, LoCo teams are autonomous [10:37] Flannel, the 'one could argue' statement seems to have said just that. upthread ^^ [10:38] bazhang: Why are you worried anyway? If he's cronically as bad as he has been in here the past few days, he'll be banned from -se in no time anyway. [10:38] jpds: flannel is right however we have every right to be in any channel we feel like it at anytime (unless banned) and since noone said anything in the channel that was off color why cant we hang out there [10:39] bazhang: I mentioned that it could be construed as a violation. I didnt accuse anyone of anything. [10:39] Flannel, you saying that one could argue I am violating the coc when that is not the case, particularly after all the time and effort I have spent with smallfoot and in light of his behaviour towards hobb-see yesterday. [10:39] bazhang: But regardless, Do you want to be known as an op who pushes peoples buttons? We're here to enforce rules, not to make people break them. [10:40] s/make people/encourage people to/ [10:42] Flannel, if you consider me as such a one, then that is your affair; I try to help out as best as I can. the presumptive arguments about coc violations were overboard imo [10:43] bazhang: You can't seriously cite private discussions as reasons I should know that you're not simply provoking him. [10:46] Flannel, I recall having a PM with eleph some weeks back; you felt I was wrong to ban him, so I PM'd him. I do so to mediate not provoke. [10:46] bazhang: I apologise for not being omniscient. [10:47] Anyway, task at hand: AlmightyCthulhu in #ubuntu. Can't tell if his ban here is the same guy or not [10:47] turns out he was rather ban-worthy after all. [10:48] its baron1984 iirc [10:48] Looks like its the same IP and everything [10:48] definitely ban fodder :) [10:49] It was a month ago though. We probably ought to unban him here and have a chat with him [10:50] * Flannel is still reading logs, so don't hold me to that. [10:50] I always clear my ban list in a day or two (if I remember) :) [10:51] Even if its only to keep S/N in #ubuntu, although he's quieted down it looks like [10:53] always need limcore around though [10:53] what is the key combo to change virtual desktops in compiz aand/or out [10:53] * gnomefreak was asked by smallfoot and i cant remember to save my life [10:53] Hah. Actually... his nick was originally baron1984. Definately same guy. [10:53] ctrol alt left mouse? [10:53] gnomefreak: ctrl-alt-leftarrow? [10:54] thats it thanks [10:54] gnomefreak: he was in +1, has been so for a few days, and has also spammed it. you may want to look at logs before speaking. [10:55] * bazhang hugs Flannel [10:55] huh? i said that he never asked about being unbanned from +1 [10:55] got to go to work :( [10:55] ah [10:55] bazhang: Have fun! :) [10:56] * Flannel has no idea what bazhang does. Perhaps fun isn't appropriate. [10:56] * Hobbsee shakes her head at -se [10:56] incoming [10:57] banned in #ubuntuforums [10:57] almighty..... [10:57] by Vorian no less. [10:57] gnomefreak: [19:32] also he was banned from #ubuntu but i never saw him try to join #ubuntu+1 (not sure if he is banned there or not) [10:58] gnomefreak: but i think i misread slightly, sorry [10:58] i meant ask about it [10:58] sorry i mixed up words [11:02] * Hobbsee is just stunned at people who don't learn, and then others who appear to be defending them. [11:08] you know, i'm getting really bored of limcore's continual trolls in -bugs and such. [11:08] and even in #ubuntu [11:08] looks like he's moving to -quality now too. [11:10] * jpds installs "mc" and gets: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30251/ - at the end of the dpkg run. [11:11] ah yes i remmeber scrollkeeper errors [11:12] that was a1 though [11:12] atleast for intrepid [11:12] Hmm, I prefer using tree, ls and mv, cp for files. [11:16] jpds: yeah, i fail to see hwo that's not a good enough solution, particularly for a desktop === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [11:35] hello moo_cow [11:37] * Tm_T hails the newcomers [11:38] * Flannel believes moo_cow is forwarded from #ubuntu, and has been logging in/idling on and off for at least a week now. [11:39] 13:38 @,- 25 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@208-117-11-160.block5.gvtc.com!#ubuntu-ops [by ikonia!n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia, 781773 secs ago] [11:39] hmm [11:39] should I proceed? [11:40] @btlogin [11:40] hrm [11:40] msnbot just left #u with a profane quit message [11:40] Hobbsee: I unfrotunately can't much follow ubuntu channels but as long as I see when it happens, he'll stay out [11:42] Tm_T: i meant from here, but okay [11:42] Hobbsee: ah, I see, I was rescuing a cat so didn't follow [11:43] FINE. I'm not banning him. [11:43] * Myrtti raises her fist [11:45] ? [11:45] not banforwarding msnbot here since my brain doesn't cowork with irssi [12:10] In #ubuntu, aozturk said: ubottu: this is the error message: http://pastebin.ca/1082461 [12:11] how can I fix this: http://pastebin.ca/1082461 [12:12] aozturk: This isn't a support channel [12:12] aozturk: ubottu is a bot [12:37] Tm_T: that ban was on a bot that had a pretty nasty exploit link [12:39] Hmmm @btlogin has stopped woroking, has someone reset the database ? [12:39] @btlogin [12:39] wfm [12:39] ikonia: what ban? [12:39] hmm [12:39] btlogin [12:39]