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ethana2I'd prefer not to risk borking my hard drive right before i send the rest of my machine to dell, that'd be a rough week04:52
ethana2do the livecd's somewhat work for testing?04:52
ethana2..on the daily .iso's?04:53
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davmor2Morning guys how's things going?08:33
ethana2i /think/ alpha 3 is out08:33
ethana2i'm trying to get my vm working08:33
ethana2i think virt-manager has some dependencies that aren't official08:34
ethana2ah, there we go08:35
soren"official dependencies"?08:42
ethana2it needs it to work08:47
ethana2but it's not a dependency of the package08:47
ethana2but it's an either/or thing so that may be hard08:47
ethana2i got it, just qemu is all08:47
Hobbseeah yes, it's out08:47
davmor2slangasek: congrats on getting it out :)08:49
slangasekdavmor2: thanks for all your testing help!08:49
davmor2I might test the new Kubuntu desktop cd :)08:51
sorenethana2: You don't need qemu to use virt-manager.09:06
ethana2it was the virtualization engine i selected09:07
ethana2and it wasn't installed09:07
ethana2so it connected fine09:07
ethana2and installed kinda--- and then it died because it couldn't actually start th evm09:07
ethana2it's all good now09:08
sorenStill.... You don't need qemu to use virt-manager. Certainly, its absence could be handled more gracefully, but qemu is not a dependency of virt-manager.09:11
cjwatsondavmor2: *thwap* for detail level in bug 251634 ;-)09:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251634 in oem-config "Intrepid: Oem Installs fail on Kubuntu and Ubuntu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25163409:18
davmor2cjwatson: I know but I needed a quick bug to link too ;) and was knackered.  Plus I don't actually know what the issue was or where to look to find the fault :)09:23
cjwatson/var/log/oem-config.log is usually what I need09:24
cjwatsonplus a visual description of how it failed09:24
cjwatsonyou can see what happened; tell me :)09:24
davmor2I'll need to reinstall to get the logs and I just ran the update script :(  (Fail on my behalf)09:24
ethana2soren: hmm09:29
ethana2time for bed09:29
ethana2good work guys, you rock09:29
davmor2cjwatson: I assumed maybe incorrectly that it was the same issue for both bugs which is why I put them together.  In that both die on the user setup section.09:34
davmor2But I will separate them out for you and give you some more info on the issue :)09:35
cjwatsondavmor2: you said one failed in localisation, and one in user-setup09:36
cjwatsonsuggesting two different failures?09:36
davmor2np's09:36
cjwatsonwell, no, I'm not trying to get you to agree, I'm just trying to figure out the status :)09:36
davmor2No you could be right.  The kubuntu one just displays a black screen and white outlined cross rather than going onto the localization screen and the ubuntu one just would continue past the localization screen :)09:39
davmor2So I will separate them out as different bugs and let you figure out if they are related :)  But your fixed version might of solved the issues already :)09:40
davmor2cjwatson: is that better for you?09:50
cjwatsonthose definitely sound entirely different09:51
cjwatsonKubuntu is probably due to kdesudo, I'd appreciate ensuring that any bug you file there has at least oem-config 1.4309:52
cjwatsonfor Ubuntu, do you mean that it went straight onto page two, and then none of the controls worked?09:52
cjwatsonor something different?09:52
davmor2:) it's what ever version was in yesterdays alternative cd....09:52
cjwatsonthere's a .list file alongside the image09:53
cjwatsonyesterday's Kubuntu> toast for oem-config, skip that unless it's reproducible with the next one09:53
davmor2Ubuntu opens on Localization and reports no localization you hit forward as it is the only button you can press and nothing it goes no further09:54
cjwatsonok, haven't seen that one before09:54
cjwatsonwould help if you could confirm whether it's present with the next CD along, though, something with 1.44 or better09:54
davmor2the ubuntu one I'll check on the lasted live too to see if your fixes have solved it :)09:54
cjwatsonactually, yeah, that's probably just because localechooser-data got upgraded and oem-config needed to be synced09:55
cjwatsonbut confirmation would be good09:55
cjwatsonknown issue even with 1.44: it won't do country selection properly, so you'll always get the default country for the language (e.g. en_US even if you select London). I've fixed that in bzr09:55
davmor2just working would be good for now :)09:56
davmor2right breakfast and then I'll report the ubuntu one and try and reproduce and get the log files for you :)09:57
hbbs1Hi10:04
hbbs1There'll be a Ibex Alpha 3 LIve CD?10:04
davmor2cjwatson: is bug 251741 okay for starters :)10:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251741 in oem-config "Intrepid: Oem install fails on Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25174110:13
cjwatsondavmor2: yes, thanks, though it should specify whether it's alternate or desktop10:21
davmor2cjwatson: you're just nit pickin' now aren't you :)10:37
cjwatsondavmor2: actually, no.10:38
cjwatsondavmor2: there are non-trivial differences, and in particular without that information I can't determine which version of oem-config you were using - for alpha 3, they differed for alternate and desktop10:38
davmor2I know just pokin' fun dude :)  I've added variant (alt) and version (32bit/64bit) to both for you :)10:39
cjwatsonthanks10:39
davmor2so anything else other than the log file that you'll need?10:40
davmor2cjwatson: ^10:41
davmor2morning heno  Alpha 3 got released :)10:42
henodavmor2: so I see :)10:43
davmor2I think more cause it needed to get back on schedule than by testing most aren't complete :(10:44
cjwatsondavmor2: shouldn't be10:44
cjwatsonwell, desktop did at least get fixed10:44
davmor2cjwatson: okay no probs, Kubuntu is installing so I'll add the log files as I retrieve them :)10:45
cjwatsonta10:56
thekorn_livehi all, I'm currently testing amd64 live session, and I try to understand how jockey *should* work11:23
thekorn_live1.) what should happen if multiverse is not enabled?11:24
davmor2thekorn_live: it doesn't on live11:24
thekorn_liveright, multiverse is not enable, in this case jockey always silently fails to install restricted drivers11:25
thekorn_livewhithout any hint to enable multiverse11:26
thekorn_liveso I'm not sure if this is a bug (in jockey) or if the user should know to enable multiverse11:27
thekorn_live2.) if a user sucessfully installed a driver via jockey for his video card, should compiz be enabled automatically?11:28
davmor2thekorn_live: it's not meant to work on live fullstop how do you reboot the system?11:32
thekorn_livedavmor2: ah, I did not restart, because I heard the login sound twice, so I thought there was some magic going on to automatically start compiz11:35
davmor2cjwatson: oem-config.log on bug 251634 along with the error messages fro cli running sudo oem-config-prepare and a small photo of the screen,  anything else before I do the ubuntu one?11:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251634 in oem-config "Intrepid: Oem Installs fail on Kubuntu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25163411:41
davmor2moved on anyway11:56
cjwatsondavmor2: thanks, that should be all12:01
davmor2cjwatson: np's collecting info on the ubuntu one for you next12:02
davmor2do you just need to log file again?12:02
cjwatsondavmor2: yeah12:05
davmor2np's I'll ping you when it's done12:05
davmor2cjwatson: that's weird the bug I had yesterday has changed this tim it just skipped the localization page and went to the world map on 2of 412:36
davmor2cjwatson: log file attached to bug 25174112:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251741 in oem-config "Intrepid: Oem install fails on Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25174112:41
cjwatsondavmor2: was the Forward button active on page two?12:46
cjwatsondamnit, log file is useless. I really need to put the version number in there!12:47
davmor2yes from page 2 on everything worked but it's page one that didn't last time12:47
cjwatsondavmor2: dpkg -l oem-config please12:47
davmor21.44 full is added to the bug12:48
cjwatsonthanks12:50
davmor2anything else you need?12:50
davmor2cgregan: morning Chris what's it like in the states?14:09
cgreganmorning.....sunny and 70 degrees F14:10
cgreganour president is a cowboy and our economy is tanking.....but it is 70 F and sunny! :-)14:12
davmor2:) Nice more info than I expected and quite amusing14:13
cgregandavmor2: How about the UK....anyone get superglued together today?14:13
davmor2Plenty of sticking points on the iso's but 26C and bloody muggy is about all you can say for the weather :)14:15
stgraberwhat ?? it's warmer in the UK ?? and it's not raining ?? :)14:16
jpdsstgraber: Yes.14:17
davmor2stgraber: don't forget muggy14:18
stgraberwell, it's 29 C here and sunny.14:18
stgraberdavmor2: right14:18
* jpds blames the global warming.14:18
* davmor2 blames sbeattie it's always his fault :D14:19
cr3hey dudes15:00
cr3stgraber: ping, whatcha working on? any news about schwuk?15:01
stgrabercr3: doing paperwork for my move to Canada and fighting with Zope when I have time ... still fails when accessing /builds/<secure-id> for reason I'm trying to determine as that page is basically an empty one ... (just for testing)15:03
stgrabercr3: no news about schwuk since yesterday morning15:03
stgrabercr3: no commit to his branch either15:03
cr3stgraber: I hope everything is alright with him :(15:04
cr3stgraber: would you have time to try troubleshooting the problem with /builds/<secure_id> together?15:05
stgrabercr3: yes, I'm available for at least an hour, should be enough as I'm pretty sure it's nothing big.15:05
cr3stgraber: excellent, how about we start by sending me a patch of your changes15:06
cr3stgraber: (make sure to bzr add any files which you might've created so that they appear in the patch)15:06
stgrabersent15:08
cr3stgraber: by the way, how do you map <secure_id> to a particular build? I don't think that's in the database15:09
stgrabercr3: that'll be my problem when I at least find a way to get a blank page to display :)15:09
davmor2pure comedy15:09
davmor2guy has just rung me up to do a survey about the work I had done on my car and his computer crashed :D15:10
cr3stgraber: actually, we'll just use the date which is unique in this context15:12
stgraberI get links like: http://localhost:8080/builds/build-result-20080423.2 so that's already using the date which should then be fine15:13
stgraberand: http://localhost:8080/builds/disk-result-41 for detailed results for a specific CD15:14
davmor2stgraber: update on the kubuntu cd it installed :)15:17
cr3stgraber: so far, you have the right idea about creating a new view with Zope315:18
cr3stgraber: err, where -41 is the id in the table? I don't expose those as a rule15:20
stgraberI use "item/result/name" for the link so the id got exposed somehow15:22
stgraberfor disk we don't have anything unique other than the id AFAICS15:23
cr3stgraber: yeah, we'll find something. perhaps /disks/ubuntu-server/date15:25
cr3stgraber: do you see output in stdout when running the web server?15:25
stgraberyes15:25
cr3stgraber: did you see: AttributeError: type object 'BuildResult' has no attribute 'get_by_secure_id'15:26
stgraberyes15:26
cr3stgraber: ok, first I'll change the url to only use the date15:27
cr3stgraber: one part that sucks is that BuildResultTableNavigator.items is returning dicts rather than objects, which is uncool15:35
cr3the reason is that objects enable us to leverage some of the power of Zope3, so we could use ${item/++url++} instead of hard-coding some interpretation of the url all over templates15:36
stgraberyes, I remember that I tried ++url++ and it didn't work so that was the reason15:37
cr3stgraber: yeah, so since this is the only page which uses the concept of an embedded list, this will require some changes to the assumptions I've made so far15:38
cr3stgraber: you've got mail: 1. working patch; 2. suggestion for /disks url.15:58
stgrabergot it, thanks15:59
cr3stgraber: there really wasn't that many changes, you're catching on to zope quickly16:00
cr3it must be thanks to the most excellent sample code <grin>16:01
stgraberI mainly looked at how people/ was implemented as the implementation was similar to what I wanted16:02
stgrabercr3: applying your patch /builds fails now16:03
cr3stgraber: what's the error message?16:19
stgraber    raise TraversalError(subject, name)16:19
stgraberTraversalError: (<canonical.certify.model.build.BuildResult object at 0x4d4da90>, 'secure_id')16:19
stgraberand I get a 404 if I try to access /builds/<something>16:20
cr3stgraber: what does the urls section of zcml/build.zcml look like?16:20
cr3stgraber: you should see: path_expr="string:${context/date}"16:21
stgraberhmm, evolution truncated the attachment ... let me revert everything and patch again16:22
cr3stgraber: if you revert, you'll need to add your template file which is not part of the patch16:22
stgraberyeah, works fine16:24
stgraberjust needs to update it to actually show something useful now :)16:25
cr3stgraber: would you like sample data from the production website?16:25
davmor2I'm off stgraber heno i386 and amd64 both work on desktop kubuntu16:26
stgraberschwuk sent me _info and _main from production, not sure how old they are but they do the job for now16:26
stgraberdavmor2: cool16:26
cr3stgraber: cool16:27
stgrabercr3: it was almost impossible to work on /builds without testing data and manually filing the DB was uhmm a long process :)16:27
cr3stgraber: have you seen ara today?16:29
stgrabercr3: joined the chan at 06:00 UTC and left at 12:14 UTC16:32
cr3stgraber: thanks, I'll have more overlap with her next week16:32
bdgraueis there any chance to get intrepid run in hardy virtualbox?19:59
slangasekare there any distro team leads who have to be at the Mobile community meeting?  if not, that's on #-mobile, so could run concurrentlyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha320:09
slangaseksigh20:09
slangasek"there's a bug open about that problem; see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha3"20:09
* slangasek stabs his mouse wheel with something poisonous20:09
Xk2ci have started kubuntu alpha 3 alternativ cd inside of virtualbox and get and instand kernal panic22:41
Xk2cquestion: is that sort of testing supported/usefull?22:41
Xk2cshould i report a bug?22:41
Xk2ci have got an screenie if someone is interessted22:42
Xk2cahhh and the gpg and md5sum verfied fine22:43
Xk2canyone still awake?22:47
sbeattieXk2c: I believe that's a known issue; see the caveats section at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha322:48
Xk2cahh ok22:48
sbeattiehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/24606722:48
Xk2cthx sbeattie for that link22:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot after upgrading to kernel 2.6.26.3-generic" [High,Confirmed]22:48
Xk2cok then good night22:55

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