[04:52] <ethana2> I'd prefer not to risk borking my hard drive right before i send the rest of my machine to dell, that'd be a rough week
[04:52] <ethana2> do the livecd's somewhat work for testing?
[04:53] <ethana2> ..on the daily .iso's?
[08:33] <davmor2> Morning guys how's things going?
[08:33] <ethana2> i /think/ alpha 3 is out
[08:33] <ethana2> i'm trying to get my vm working
[08:34] <ethana2> i think virt-manager has some dependencies that aren't official
[08:35] <ethana2> ah, there we go
[08:42] <soren> "official dependencies"?
[08:47] <ethana2> it needs it to work
[08:47] <ethana2> but it's not a dependency of the package
[08:47] <ethana2> but it's an either/or thing so that may be hard
[08:47] <ethana2> i got it, just qemu is all
[08:47] <Hobbsee> ah yes, it's out
[08:49] <davmor2> slangasek: congrats on getting it out :)
[08:49] <slangasek> davmor2: thanks for all your testing help!
[08:51] <davmor2> I might test the new Kubuntu desktop cd :)
[09:06] <soren> ethana2: You don't need qemu to use virt-manager.
[09:07] <ethana2> it was the virtualization engine i selected
[09:07] <ethana2> and it wasn't installed
[09:07] <ethana2> so it connected fine
[09:07] <ethana2> and installed kinda--- and then it died because it couldn't actually start th evm
[09:08] <ethana2> it's all good now
[09:11] <soren> Still.... You don't need qemu to use virt-manager. Certainly, its absence could be handled more gracefully, but qemu is not a dependency of virt-manager.
[09:18] <cjwatson> davmor2: *thwap* for detail level in bug 251634 ;-)
[09:23] <davmor2> cjwatson: I know but I needed a quick bug to link too ;) and was knackered.  Plus I don't actually know what the issue was or where to look to find the fault :)
[09:24] <cjwatson> /var/log/oem-config.log is usually what I need
[09:24] <cjwatson> plus a visual description of how it failed
[09:24] <cjwatson> you can see what happened; tell me :)
[09:24] <davmor2> I'll need to reinstall to get the logs and I just ran the update script :(  (Fail on my behalf)
[09:29] <ethana2> soren: hmm
[09:29] <ethana2> time for bed
[09:29] <ethana2> good work guys, you rock
[09:34] <davmor2> cjwatson: I assumed maybe incorrectly that it was the same issue for both bugs which is why I put them together.  In that both die on the user setup section.
[09:35] <davmor2> But I will separate them out for you and give you some more info on the issue :)
[09:36] <cjwatson> davmor2: you said one failed in localisation, and one in user-setup
[09:36] <cjwatson> suggesting two different failures?
[09:36] <davmor2> np's
[09:36] <cjwatson> well, no, I'm not trying to get you to agree, I'm just trying to figure out the status :)
[09:39] <davmor2> No you could be right.  The kubuntu one just displays a black screen and white outlined cross rather than going onto the localization screen and the ubuntu one just would continue past the localization screen :)
[09:40] <davmor2> So I will separate them out as different bugs and let you figure out if they are related :)  But your fixed version might of solved the issues already :)
[09:50] <davmor2> cjwatson: is that better for you?
[09:51] <cjwatson> those definitely sound entirely different
[09:52] <cjwatson> Kubuntu is probably due to kdesudo, I'd appreciate ensuring that any bug you file there has at least oem-config 1.43
[09:52] <cjwatson> for Ubuntu, do you mean that it went straight onto page two, and then none of the controls worked?
[09:52] <cjwatson> or something different?
[09:52] <davmor2> :) it's what ever version was in yesterdays alternative cd....
[09:53] <cjwatson> there's a .list file alongside the image
[09:53] <cjwatson> yesterday's Kubuntu> toast for oem-config, skip that unless it's reproducible with the next one
[09:54] <davmor2> Ubuntu opens on Localization and reports no localization you hit forward as it is the only button you can press and nothing it goes no further
[09:54] <cjwatson> ok, haven't seen that one before
[09:54] <cjwatson> would help if you could confirm whether it's present with the next CD along, though, something with 1.44 or better
[09:54] <davmor2> the ubuntu one I'll check on the lasted live too to see if your fixes have solved it :)
[09:55] <cjwatson> actually, yeah, that's probably just because localechooser-data got upgraded and oem-config needed to be synced
[09:55] <cjwatson> but confirmation would be good
[09:55] <cjwatson> known issue even with 1.44: it won't do country selection properly, so you'll always get the default country for the language (e.g. en_US even if you select London). I've fixed that in bzr
[09:56] <davmor2> just working would be good for now :)
[09:57] <davmor2> right breakfast and then I'll report the ubuntu one and try and reproduce and get the log files for you :)
[10:04] <hbbs1> Hi
[10:04] <hbbs1> There'll be a Ibex Alpha 3 LIve CD?
[10:12] <davmor2> cjwatson: is bug 251741 okay for starters :)
[10:21] <cjwatson> davmor2: yes, thanks, though it should specify whether it's alternate or desktop
[10:37] <davmor2> cjwatson: you're just nit pickin' now aren't you :)
[10:38] <cjwatson> davmor2: actually, no.
[10:38] <cjwatson> davmor2: there are non-trivial differences, and in particular without that information I can't determine which version of oem-config you were using - for alpha 3, they differed for alternate and desktop
[10:39] <davmor2> I know just pokin' fun dude :)  I've added variant (alt) and version (32bit/64bit) to both for you :)
[10:39] <cjwatson> thanks
[10:40] <davmor2> so anything else other than the log file that you'll need?
[10:41] <davmor2> cjwatson: ^
[10:42] <davmor2> morning heno  Alpha 3 got released :)
[10:43] <heno> davmor2: so I see :)
[10:44] <davmor2> I think more cause it needed to get back on schedule than by testing most aren't complete :(
[10:44] <cjwatson> davmor2: shouldn't be
[10:44] <cjwatson> well, desktop did at least get fixed
[10:45] <davmor2> cjwatson: okay no probs, Kubuntu is installing so I'll add the log files as I retrieve them :)
[10:56] <cjwatson> ta
[11:23] <thekorn_live> hi all, I'm currently testing amd64 live session, and I try to understand how jockey *should* work
[11:24] <thekorn_live> 1.) what should happen if multiverse is not enabled?
[11:24] <davmor2> thekorn_live: it doesn't on live
[11:25] <thekorn_live> right, multiverse is not enable, in this case jockey always silently fails to install restricted drivers
[11:26] <thekorn_live> whithout any hint to enable multiverse
[11:27] <thekorn_live> so I'm not sure if this is a bug (in jockey) or if the user should know to enable multiverse
[11:28] <thekorn_live> 2.) if a user sucessfully installed a driver via jockey for his video card, should compiz be enabled automatically?
[11:32] <davmor2> thekorn_live: it's not meant to work on live fullstop how do you reboot the system?
[11:35] <thekorn_live> davmor2: ah, I did not restart, because I heard the login sound twice, so I thought there was some magic going on to automatically start compiz
[11:41] <davmor2> cjwatson: oem-config.log on bug 251634 along with the error messages fro cli running sudo oem-config-prepare and a small photo of the screen,  anything else before I do the ubuntu one?
[11:56] <davmor2> moved on anyway
[12:01] <cjwatson> davmor2: thanks, that should be all
[12:02] <davmor2> cjwatson: np's collecting info on the ubuntu one for you next
[12:02] <davmor2> do you just need to log file again?
[12:05] <cjwatson> davmor2: yeah
[12:05] <davmor2> np's I'll ping you when it's done
[12:36] <davmor2> cjwatson: that's weird the bug I had yesterday has changed this tim it just skipped the localization page and went to the world map on 2of 4
[12:41] <davmor2> cjwatson: log file attached to bug 251741
[12:46] <cjwatson> davmor2: was the Forward button active on page two?
[12:47] <cjwatson> damnit, log file is useless. I really need to put the version number in there!
[12:47] <davmor2> yes from page 2 on everything worked but it's page one that didn't last time
[12:47] <cjwatson> davmor2: dpkg -l oem-config please
[12:48] <davmor2> 1.44 full is added to the bug
[12:50] <cjwatson> thanks
[12:50] <davmor2> anything else you need?
[14:09] <davmor2> cgregan: morning Chris what's it like in the states?
[14:10] <cgregan> morning.....sunny and 70 degrees F
[14:12] <cgregan> our president is a cowboy and our economy is tanking.....but it is 70 F and sunny! :-)
[14:13] <davmor2> :) Nice more info than I expected and quite amusing
[14:13] <cgregan> davmor2: How about the UK....anyone get superglued together today?
[14:15] <davmor2> Plenty of sticking points on the iso's but 26C and bloody muggy is about all you can say for the weather :)
[14:16] <stgraber> what ?? it's warmer in the UK ?? and it's not raining ?? :)
[14:17] <jpds> stgraber: Yes.
[14:18] <davmor2> stgraber: don't forget muggy
[14:18] <stgraber> well, it's 29 C here and sunny.
[14:18] <stgraber> davmor2: right
[14:18]  * jpds blames the global warming.
[14:19]  * davmor2 blames sbeattie it's always his fault :D
[15:00] <cr3> hey dudes
[15:01] <cr3> stgraber: ping, whatcha working on? any news about schwuk?
[15:03] <stgraber> cr3: doing paperwork for my move to Canada and fighting with Zope when I have time ... still fails when accessing /builds/<secure-id> for reason I'm trying to determine as that page is basically an empty one ... (just for testing)
[15:03] <stgraber> cr3: no news about schwuk since yesterday morning
[15:03] <stgraber> cr3: no commit to his branch either
[15:04] <cr3> stgraber: I hope everything is alright with him :(
[15:05] <cr3> stgraber: would you have time to try troubleshooting the problem with /builds/<secure_id> together?
[15:05] <stgraber> cr3: yes, I'm available for at least an hour, should be enough as I'm pretty sure it's nothing big.
[15:06] <cr3> stgraber: excellent, how about we start by sending me a patch of your changes
[15:06] <cr3> stgraber: (make sure to bzr add any files which you might've created so that they appear in the patch)
[15:08] <stgraber> sent
[15:09] <cr3> stgraber: by the way, how do you map <secure_id> to a particular build? I don't think that's in the database
[15:09] <stgraber> cr3: that'll be my problem when I at least find a way to get a blank page to display :)
[15:09] <davmor2> pure comedy
[15:10] <davmor2> guy has just rung me up to do a survey about the work I had done on my car and his computer crashed :D
[15:12] <cr3> stgraber: actually, we'll just use the date which is unique in this context
[15:13] <stgraber> I get links like: http://localhost:8080/builds/build-result-20080423.2 so that's already using the date which should then be fine
[15:14] <stgraber> and: http://localhost:8080/builds/disk-result-41 for detailed results for a specific CD
[15:17] <davmor2> stgraber: update on the kubuntu cd it installed :)
[15:18] <cr3> stgraber: so far, you have the right idea about creating a new view with Zope3
[15:20] <cr3> stgraber: err, where -41 is the id in the table? I don't expose those as a rule
[15:22] <stgraber> I use "item/result/name" for the link so the id got exposed somehow
[15:23] <stgraber> for disk we don't have anything unique other than the id AFAICS
[15:25] <cr3> stgraber: yeah, we'll find something. perhaps /disks/ubuntu-server/date
[15:25] <cr3> stgraber: do you see output in stdout when running the web server?
[15:25] <stgraber> yes
[15:26] <cr3> stgraber: did you see: AttributeError: type object 'BuildResult' has no attribute 'get_by_secure_id'
[15:26] <stgraber> yes
[15:27] <cr3> stgraber: ok, first I'll change the url to only use the date
[15:35] <cr3> stgraber: one part that sucks is that BuildResultTableNavigator.items is returning dicts rather than objects, which is uncool
[15:36] <cr3> the reason is that objects enable us to leverage some of the power of Zope3, so we could use ${item/++url++} instead of hard-coding some interpretation of the url all over templates
[15:37] <stgraber> yes, I remember that I tried ++url++ and it didn't work so that was the reason
[15:38] <cr3> stgraber: yeah, so since this is the only page which uses the concept of an embedded list, this will require some changes to the assumptions I've made so far
[15:58] <cr3> stgraber: you've got mail: 1. working patch; 2. suggestion for /disks url.
[15:59] <stgraber> got it, thanks
[16:00] <cr3> stgraber: there really wasn't that many changes, you're catching on to zope quickly
[16:01] <cr3> it must be thanks to the most excellent sample code <grin>
[16:02] <stgraber> I mainly looked at how people/ was implemented as the implementation was similar to what I wanted
[16:03] <stgraber> cr3: applying your patch /builds fails now
[16:19] <cr3> stgraber: what's the error message?
[16:19] <stgraber>     raise TraversalError(subject, name)
[16:19] <stgraber> TraversalError: (<canonical.certify.model.build.BuildResult object at 0x4d4da90>, 'secure_id')
[16:20] <stgraber> and I get a 404 if I try to access /builds/<something>
[16:20] <cr3> stgraber: what does the urls section of zcml/build.zcml look like?
[16:21] <cr3> stgraber: you should see: path_expr="string:${context/date}"
[16:22] <stgraber> hmm, evolution truncated the attachment ... let me revert everything and patch again
[16:22] <cr3> stgraber: if you revert, you'll need to add your template file which is not part of the patch
[16:24] <stgraber> yeah, works fine
[16:25] <stgraber> just needs to update it to actually show something useful now :)
[16:25] <cr3> stgraber: would you like sample data from the production website?
[16:26] <davmor2> I'm off stgraber heno i386 and amd64 both work on desktop kubuntu
[16:26] <stgraber> schwuk sent me _info and _main from production, not sure how old they are but they do the job for now
[16:26] <stgraber> davmor2: cool
[16:27] <cr3> stgraber: cool
[16:27] <stgraber> cr3: it was almost impossible to work on /builds without testing data and manually filing the DB was uhmm a long process :)
[16:29] <cr3> stgraber: have you seen ara today?
[16:32] <stgraber> cr3: joined the chan at 06:00 UTC and left at 12:14 UTC
[16:32] <cr3> stgraber: thanks, I'll have more overlap with her next week
[19:59] <bdgraue> is there any chance to get intrepid run in hardy virtualbox?
[20:09] <slangasek> are there any distro team leads who have to be at the Mobile community meeting?  if not, that's on #-mobile, so could run concurrentlyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha3
[20:09] <slangasek> sigh
[20:09] <slangasek> "there's a bug open about that problem; see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha3"
[20:09]  * slangasek stabs his mouse wheel with something poisonous
[22:41] <Xk2c> i have started kubuntu alpha 3 alternativ cd inside of virtualbox and get and instand kernal panic
[22:41] <Xk2c> question: is that sort of testing supported/usefull?
[22:41] <Xk2c> should i report a bug?
[22:42] <Xk2c> i have got an screenie if someone is interessted
[22:43] <Xk2c> ahhh and the gpg and md5sum verfied fine
[22:47] <Xk2c> anyone still awake?
[22:48] <sbeattie> Xk2c: I believe that's a known issue; see the caveats section at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha3
[22:48] <Xk2c> ahh ok
[22:48] <sbeattie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/246067
[22:48] <Xk2c> thx sbeattie for that link
[22:55] <Xk2c> ok then good night