=== smb_tp_ is now known as smb_tp === asac_ is now known as asac [04:52] I'd prefer not to risk borking my hard drive right before i send the rest of my machine to dell, that'd be a rough week [04:52] do the livecd's somewhat work for testing? [04:53] ..on the daily .iso's? === fdd-01 is now known as fdd [08:33] Morning guys how's things going? [08:33] i /think/ alpha 3 is out [08:33] i'm trying to get my vm working [08:34] i think virt-manager has some dependencies that aren't official [08:35] ah, there we go [08:42] "official dependencies"? [08:47] it needs it to work [08:47] but it's not a dependency of the package [08:47] but it's an either/or thing so that may be hard [08:47] i got it, just qemu is all [08:47] ah yes, it's out [08:49] slangasek: congrats on getting it out :) [08:49] davmor2: thanks for all your testing help! [08:51] I might test the new Kubuntu desktop cd :) [09:06] ethana2: You don't need qemu to use virt-manager. [09:07] it was the virtualization engine i selected [09:07] and it wasn't installed [09:07] so it connected fine [09:07] and installed kinda--- and then it died because it couldn't actually start th evm [09:08] it's all good now [09:11] Still.... You don't need qemu to use virt-manager. Certainly, its absence could be handled more gracefully, but qemu is not a dependency of virt-manager. [09:18] davmor2: *thwap* for detail level in bug 251634 ;-) [09:18] Launchpad bug 251634 in oem-config "Intrepid: Oem Installs fail on Kubuntu and Ubuntu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251634 [09:23] cjwatson: I know but I needed a quick bug to link too ;) and was knackered. Plus I don't actually know what the issue was or where to look to find the fault :) [09:24] /var/log/oem-config.log is usually what I need [09:24] plus a visual description of how it failed [09:24] you can see what happened; tell me :) [09:24] I'll need to reinstall to get the logs and I just ran the update script :( (Fail on my behalf) [09:29] soren: hmm [09:29] time for bed [09:29] good work guys, you rock [09:34] cjwatson: I assumed maybe incorrectly that it was the same issue for both bugs which is why I put them together. In that both die on the user setup section. [09:35] But I will separate them out for you and give you some more info on the issue :) [09:36] davmor2: you said one failed in localisation, and one in user-setup [09:36] suggesting two different failures? [09:36] np's [09:36] well, no, I'm not trying to get you to agree, I'm just trying to figure out the status :) [09:39] No you could be right. The kubuntu one just displays a black screen and white outlined cross rather than going onto the localization screen and the ubuntu one just would continue past the localization screen :) [09:40] So I will separate them out as different bugs and let you figure out if they are related :) But your fixed version might of solved the issues already :) [09:50] cjwatson: is that better for you? [09:51] those definitely sound entirely different [09:52] Kubuntu is probably due to kdesudo, I'd appreciate ensuring that any bug you file there has at least oem-config 1.43 [09:52] for Ubuntu, do you mean that it went straight onto page two, and then none of the controls worked? [09:52] or something different? [09:52] :) it's what ever version was in yesterdays alternative cd.... [09:53] there's a .list file alongside the image [09:53] yesterday's Kubuntu> toast for oem-config, skip that unless it's reproducible with the next one [09:54] Ubuntu opens on Localization and reports no localization you hit forward as it is the only button you can press and nothing it goes no further [09:54] ok, haven't seen that one before [09:54] would help if you could confirm whether it's present with the next CD along, though, something with 1.44 or better [09:54] the ubuntu one I'll check on the lasted live too to see if your fixes have solved it :) [09:55] actually, yeah, that's probably just because localechooser-data got upgraded and oem-config needed to be synced [09:55] but confirmation would be good [09:55] known issue even with 1.44: it won't do country selection properly, so you'll always get the default country for the language (e.g. en_US even if you select London). I've fixed that in bzr [09:56] just working would be good for now :) [09:57] right breakfast and then I'll report the ubuntu one and try and reproduce and get the log files for you :) [10:04] Hi [10:04] There'll be a Ibex Alpha 3 LIve CD? [10:12] cjwatson: is bug 251741 okay for starters :) [10:13] Launchpad bug 251741 in oem-config "Intrepid: Oem install fails on Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251741 [10:21] davmor2: yes, thanks, though it should specify whether it's alternate or desktop [10:37] cjwatson: you're just nit pickin' now aren't you :) [10:38] davmor2: actually, no. [10:38] davmor2: there are non-trivial differences, and in particular without that information I can't determine which version of oem-config you were using - for alpha 3, they differed for alternate and desktop [10:39] I know just pokin' fun dude :) I've added variant (alt) and version (32bit/64bit) to both for you :) [10:39] thanks [10:40] so anything else other than the log file that you'll need? [10:41] cjwatson: ^ [10:42] morning heno Alpha 3 got released :) [10:43] davmor2: so I see :) [10:44] I think more cause it needed to get back on schedule than by testing most aren't complete :( [10:44] davmor2: shouldn't be [10:44] well, desktop did at least get fixed [10:45] cjwatson: okay no probs, Kubuntu is installing so I'll add the log files as I retrieve them :) [10:56] ta [11:23] hi all, I'm currently testing amd64 live session, and I try to understand how jockey *should* work [11:24] 1.) what should happen if multiverse is not enabled? [11:24] thekorn_live: it doesn't on live [11:25] right, multiverse is not enable, in this case jockey always silently fails to install restricted drivers [11:26] whithout any hint to enable multiverse [11:27] so I'm not sure if this is a bug (in jockey) or if the user should know to enable multiverse [11:28] 2.) if a user sucessfully installed a driver via jockey for his video card, should compiz be enabled automatically? [11:32] thekorn_live: it's not meant to work on live fullstop how do you reboot the system? [11:35] davmor2: ah, I did not restart, because I heard the login sound twice, so I thought there was some magic going on to automatically start compiz [11:41] cjwatson: oem-config.log on bug 251634 along with the error messages fro cli running sudo oem-config-prepare and a small photo of the screen, anything else before I do the ubuntu one? [11:41] Launchpad bug 251634 in oem-config "Intrepid: Oem Installs fail on Kubuntu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251634 [11:56] moved on anyway [12:01] davmor2: thanks, that should be all [12:02] cjwatson: np's collecting info on the ubuntu one for you next [12:02] do you just need to log file again? [12:05] davmor2: yeah [12:05] np's I'll ping you when it's done [12:36] cjwatson: that's weird the bug I had yesterday has changed this tim it just skipped the localization page and went to the world map on 2of 4 [12:41] cjwatson: log file attached to bug 251741 [12:41] Launchpad bug 251741 in oem-config "Intrepid: Oem install fails on Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251741 [12:46] davmor2: was the Forward button active on page two? [12:47] damnit, log file is useless. I really need to put the version number in there! [12:47] yes from page 2 on everything worked but it's page one that didn't last time [12:47] davmor2: dpkg -l oem-config please [12:48] 1.44 full is added to the bug [12:50] thanks [12:50] anything else you need? [14:09] cgregan: morning Chris what's it like in the states? [14:10] morning.....sunny and 70 degrees F [14:12] our president is a cowboy and our economy is tanking.....but it is 70 F and sunny! :-) [14:13] :) Nice more info than I expected and quite amusing [14:13] davmor2: How about the UK....anyone get superglued together today? [14:15] Plenty of sticking points on the iso's but 26C and bloody muggy is about all you can say for the weather :) [14:16] what ?? it's warmer in the UK ?? and it's not raining ?? :) [14:17] stgraber: Yes. [14:18] stgraber: don't forget muggy [14:18] well, it's 29 C here and sunny. [14:18] davmor2: right [14:18] * jpds blames the global warming. [14:19] * davmor2 blames sbeattie it's always his fault :D [15:00] hey dudes [15:01] stgraber: ping, whatcha working on? any news about schwuk? [15:03] cr3: doing paperwork for my move to Canada and fighting with Zope when I have time ... still fails when accessing /builds/ for reason I'm trying to determine as that page is basically an empty one ... (just for testing) [15:03] cr3: no news about schwuk since yesterday morning [15:03] cr3: no commit to his branch either [15:04] stgraber: I hope everything is alright with him :( [15:05] stgraber: would you have time to try troubleshooting the problem with /builds/ together? [15:05] cr3: yes, I'm available for at least an hour, should be enough as I'm pretty sure it's nothing big. [15:06] stgraber: excellent, how about we start by sending me a patch of your changes [15:06] stgraber: (make sure to bzr add any files which you might've created so that they appear in the patch) [15:08] sent [15:09] stgraber: by the way, how do you map to a particular build? I don't think that's in the database [15:09] cr3: that'll be my problem when I at least find a way to get a blank page to display :) [15:09] pure comedy [15:10] guy has just rung me up to do a survey about the work I had done on my car and his computer crashed :D [15:12] stgraber: actually, we'll just use the date which is unique in this context [15:13] I get links like: http://localhost:8080/builds/build-result-20080423.2 so that's already using the date which should then be fine [15:14] and: http://localhost:8080/builds/disk-result-41 for detailed results for a specific CD [15:17] stgraber: update on the kubuntu cd it installed :) [15:18] stgraber: so far, you have the right idea about creating a new view with Zope3 [15:20] stgraber: err, where -41 is the id in the table? I don't expose those as a rule [15:22] I use "item/result/name" for the link so the id got exposed somehow [15:23] for disk we don't have anything unique other than the id AFAICS [15:25] stgraber: yeah, we'll find something. perhaps /disks/ubuntu-server/date [15:25] stgraber: do you see output in stdout when running the web server? [15:25] yes [15:26] stgraber: did you see: AttributeError: type object 'BuildResult' has no attribute 'get_by_secure_id' [15:26] yes [15:27] stgraber: ok, first I'll change the url to only use the date [15:35] stgraber: one part that sucks is that BuildResultTableNavigator.items is returning dicts rather than objects, which is uncool [15:36] the reason is that objects enable us to leverage some of the power of Zope3, so we could use ${item/++url++} instead of hard-coding some interpretation of the url all over templates [15:37] yes, I remember that I tried ++url++ and it didn't work so that was the reason [15:38] stgraber: yeah, so since this is the only page which uses the concept of an embedded list, this will require some changes to the assumptions I've made so far [15:58] stgraber: you've got mail: 1. working patch; 2. suggestion for /disks url. [15:59] got it, thanks [16:00] stgraber: there really wasn't that many changes, you're catching on to zope quickly [16:01] it must be thanks to the most excellent sample code [16:02] I mainly looked at how people/ was implemented as the implementation was similar to what I wanted [16:03] cr3: applying your patch /builds fails now [16:19] stgraber: what's the error message? [16:19] raise TraversalError(subject, name) [16:19] TraversalError: (, 'secure_id') [16:20] and I get a 404 if I try to access /builds/ [16:20] stgraber: what does the urls section of zcml/build.zcml look like? [16:21] stgraber: you should see: path_expr="string:${context/date}" [16:22] hmm, evolution truncated the attachment ... let me revert everything and patch again [16:22] stgraber: if you revert, you'll need to add your template file which is not part of the patch [16:24] yeah, works fine [16:25] just needs to update it to actually show something useful now :) [16:25] stgraber: would you like sample data from the production website? [16:26] I'm off stgraber heno i386 and amd64 both work on desktop kubuntu [16:26] schwuk sent me _info and _main from production, not sure how old they are but they do the job for now [16:26] davmor2: cool [16:27] stgraber: cool [16:27] cr3: it was almost impossible to work on /builds without testing data and manually filing the DB was uhmm a long process :) [16:29] stgraber: have you seen ara today? [16:32] cr3: joined the chan at 06:00 UTC and left at 12:14 UTC [16:32] stgraber: thanks, I'll have more overlap with her next week [19:59] is there any chance to get intrepid run in hardy virtualbox? [20:09] are there any distro team leads who have to be at the Mobile community meeting? if not, that's on #-mobile, so could run concurrentlyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha3 [20:09] sigh [20:09] "there's a bug open about that problem; see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha3" [20:09] * slangasek stabs his mouse wheel with something poisonous [22:41] i have started kubuntu alpha 3 alternativ cd inside of virtualbox and get and instand kernal panic [22:41] question: is that sort of testing supported/usefull? [22:41] should i report a bug? [22:42] i have got an screenie if someone is interessted [22:43] ahhh and the gpg and md5sum verfied fine [22:47] anyone still awake? [22:48] Xk2c: I believe that's a known issue; see the caveats section at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha3 [22:48] ahh ok [22:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/246067 [22:48] thx sbeattie for that link [22:48] Launchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot after upgrading to kernel 2.6.26.3-generic" [High,Confirmed] [22:55] ok then good night