[00:03]  * JontheEchidna tries plasma on windows
[00:03] <JontheEchidna> but first I have to download it :(
[00:03] <JontheEchidna> btw, Konversation >> mIRC
[00:04] <JontheEchidna> I can't believe I used to use this junk...
[00:04] <JontheEchidna> (Windows)
[00:05] <JontheEchidna> lol, apparently closing an unresponive file manager downs the entire desktop
[00:06] <JontheEchidna> why would you even put a file manager and a desktop in the same process?
[00:10] <apachelogger> Riddell, Nightrose: what current thread?
[00:11] <Nightrose> apachelogger: on the KDE eV list
[00:11] <Nightrose> about Nuno not having KDE 4 set up despite doing a lot of artwork for it
[00:11] <apachelogger> I see
[00:14] <devfil_> Riddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486595
[00:15] <devfil_> Riddell: and https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/245682
[00:16] <Riddell> devfil_: excellent work sherlock
[00:16] <Riddell> devfil_: so we need to grab the new avahi version from Debian
[00:16] <devfil_> Riddell: uhm there is a new version of avahi that fixes other similar bugs
[00:16] <devfil_> we should directly merge it I think
[00:17] <Riddell> devfil_: looks like james_w has done a merge
[00:18] <devfil_> Riddell: yes, but there is a new version
[00:18] <Riddell> devfil_: 0.6.23-2?
[00:18] <devfil_> yes
[00:18] <Riddell> devfil_: fancy doing a merge with that?
[00:19] <devfil_> 0.6.23-2 fixes a lot of similar bugs
[00:19] <devfil_> we should ask james to redo is diff for the new version
[00:20] <Riddell> devfil_: he's james_w on irc if you want to ask
[00:20] <devfil_> ok, I hope he isn't away
[00:22] <Riddell> 5 hours idle, probably asleep for the night
[00:22] <Riddell> it's not a hard merge if you want to do it yourself
[00:23] <devfil_> Riddell: hi prefer to ask
[00:27] <apachelogger> smarter: revised kdegraphics online
[00:32] <devfil_> Riddell: he will do it tomorrow
[00:40] <Riddell> devfil_: great
[02:50] <jtechidna> Heh, automoc is a fairly straightforward backport
[02:55] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent automoc backport
[03:22] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent phonon backport, that's it for me for tonight
[03:23] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: oops, accidentally sent in automoc as ~ppa2 instead of ppa1
[03:24]  * JontheEchidna assumes that you can just edit that
[03:32] <manchicken> So how's everybody doing with intrepid?
[03:34] <Jucato> what's intrepid? ;)
[03:34] <Jucato> I'm a chicken (no offense meant), so I'm still in hardy :)
[03:36] <vorian> evening etc :)
[03:36]  * Jucato looks out the window, stares at the sun
[03:36] <Jucato> yep, good evening
[03:36] <vorian> haha
[03:36] <vorian> happy day then!
[03:37] <vorian> whoa!
[03:37] <vorian> still some work to do on backports i see
[03:37] <vorian> i'll do my favorite: pim
[03:39] <Jucato> lovely :)
[07:20]  * apachelogger just clashed into a doorframe
[07:21] <apachelogger> it's way too bright at this time of the day
[07:21] <Jucato> ouch...
[07:21] <Jucato> you ok? any serious injuries?
[07:21] <Jucato> (other than pride, of course)
[07:21] <apachelogger> pride??? what is that??? Oo
[07:22] <Jucato> over here, it's a brand of laundry soap :)
[07:22] <apachelogger> coool
[07:23]  * apachelogger notes that his head hurts like a bomb exploded, though that might as well be caused by the hangover, which is uberstrange since he didn't drink anything yesterday
[07:27] <ScottK> Not that you remember anyway.
[07:29] <apachelogger> pfft :P
[07:29] <apachelogger> I do very well
[07:29] <apachelogger> I think
[07:30]  * apachelogger switched his wrist watch 3 times
[07:30] <apachelogger> and 3 times it had different time zones
[07:30] <ScottK> That's the trick with not remembering.  You can never remember you didn't.
[07:30] <apachelogger> ScottK: one can try reconstructing what happened
[07:31] <ScottK> One can try.
[07:31] <ScottK> One can also hope no one had a video camera to make it too easy to recontstruct.
[07:32] <apachelogger> ^_^
[07:33] <ScottK> OK.  Security patches for 7 frigging different releases done and uploaded/attached to bugs. (Dapper/Feisty/Gutsy/Hardy/Intrepid/Etch/Sid for those playing along at home).
[07:33]  * ScottK is off to bed.
[07:33] <ScottK> Good night.
[07:33] <apachelogger> nini ScottK
[07:37] <apachelogger> http://youtube.com/watch?v=bChYUhvoIYc
[08:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: all packages uploaded
[08:15]  * apachelogger continues testbuilding
[08:40] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: btw, technically the 4.1.0 ppa builds are hardy0
[08:40] <apachelogger> hardy1~ppa1 would be a ppa build of the hardy ubuntu-backport
[09:07] <Riddell> apachelogger: uploaded where?
[09:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: batdirectory
[11:20] <hunger> Riddell: kdelibs4c2a is still broken here: It depends on libavahi-qt3 which seems to have been replaced with libavahi-qt3-1.
[11:20]  * smarter confirms
[11:20]  * hunger wonders whether he is the only user who occasionally is cleaning out transitional packages.
[11:21] <Riddell> it's always been libavahi-qt3-1, we need the new avahi to fix that bug
[11:22] <hunger> Oh, OK then.
[11:23] <hunger> Riddell: The libcupsys dependency is gone now by the way. A couple of gnome/general ubuntu stuff still keeps on the system, but nothing kubuntu specific anymore.
[11:24]  * hunger wonders how kdelibs4 was rebuild when there is no libavahi-qt3 around.
[11:25] <hunger> Well, I guess I'll never understand the secrets of you distro-guys;-)
[11:25] <smarter> hunger: difference between build-dependencies and dependencies :)
[11:25] <hunger> smarter: I had thought tools like lintian and such would catch that.
[11:33] <_Sime_> is there a websvn for the kde 4.1 packages and debian dirs + patches?
[11:33] <apachelogger> hunger: lintian basically checks whether the package is following debian standards
[11:34] <apachelogger> _Sime_: no(t yet)
[11:34] <apachelogger> _Sime_: do you need anything specific?
[11:35] <_Sime_> someone working on debian packages is having trouble and we've traced it to nepomuk. namely...
[11:35] <_Sime_> resource.h from nepomuk uses QHash<QUrl, ...> and requires a qHash() function somewhere
[11:36] <_Sime_> qHash(QUrl) is defined in entitymanager.h, but this file is not part of the public api.
[11:36] <_Sime_> and is not installed.
[11:37] <apachelogger> _Sime_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30525/
[11:37] <_Sime_> this problem shows up when building kdebindings, but you guys seem to have that working?
[11:38] <_Sime_> nothing related to qHash or entitymanager.h?
[11:39] <apachelogger> nope
[11:39] <hunger> _Sime_: Maybe qHash(QURL.toString()) could be used?
[11:40] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30526/ the only patch we have in kdebindings
[11:40] <ubuntu> hello
[11:40] <ubuntu> got problems
[11:40] <_Sime_> apachelogger: is nepomuk support actually being built in kdebindings? for pykde4?
[11:41] <ubuntu> kubuntu 8.0.4.1 with kde4 from ppa not booting after some latest updates, it sais "Starting up..." and it hangs right there
[11:41] <apachelogger> _Sime_: is it turned on by default?
[11:41] <_Sime_> apachelogger: if is is found, then yes.
[11:41] <apachelogger> then it should be
[11:41] <_Sime_> apachelogger: the cmake log should say
[11:41]  * apachelogger checks whether he has a log somehwere
[11:42] <apachelogger> well
[11:42] <apachelogger> -rw-r--r-- root/root    149592 2008-07-25 03:51 ./usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/nepomuk.so
[11:42] <apachelogger> _Sime_: it is in the package
[11:42] <apachelogger> so I suppose it is built ;-)
[11:43] <apachelogger> ubuntu: by booting you mean booting booting or the login kind of booting?
[11:43] <DreadKnight> apachelogger: when the pc boots up
[11:44] <DreadKnight> apachelogger: when i should get the kubuntu loading screen with the 'progress bar'
[11:44] <DreadKnight> usually i get 'starting up' (black screen with text in upper left corner) for a second, but now it hangs there
[11:45] <apachelogger> hm
[11:45] <apachelogger> no good
[11:45] <DreadKnight> i recall kicker, wine etc where updated...
[11:45] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: before that screen popups up there is either a boot manager dialog or a countdown
[11:45] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: they wouldn't cause such things
[11:46] <apachelogger> this can only happen at very low level
[11:46] <DreadKnight> apachelogger: i'm listening
[11:46] <apachelogger> i.e. kernel or something
[11:46] <apachelogger> anyway
[11:46] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: at that countdown press esc
[11:46] <apachelogger> that hsould bring you to the manager
[11:46] <DreadKnight> well, that 'update wave' along with those packages
[11:46] <apachelogger> there you can select some failsafe kind of startup
[11:46] <apachelogger> try that one and try upgrading again
[11:46] <DreadKnight> i should try that
[11:46] <apachelogger> and
[11:46] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: #kubuntu or #ubuntu for that kind of problems please
[11:48] <DreadKnight> apachelogger: ok thanks, brb....
[11:55] <_Sime_> apachelogger: this problem might also be related to the gcc version. 4.3 might be having problems. WHich gcc are you using?
[11:55] <DreadKnight> apachelogger: worked by booting in older kernel
[11:57] <apachelogger> _Sime_: 4.3
[11:57] <apachelogger> DreadKnight: cool
[12:48] <Nightrose> apachelogger: can you poke the neon build? i could use a new version to check something
[12:51] <apachelogger> Nightrose: poke eean it is still not building
[12:51] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you testbuild kdelibs for hardy?
[12:51] <Nightrose> apachelogger: narf - ok
[13:03] <apachelogger> oh
[13:03] <apachelogger> I ran out of diskspace
[13:03] <apachelogger> :S
[13:03] <apachelogger> I hate when that happens
[13:03] <jpds> Buy more?
[13:03] <apachelogger> yeah
[13:03] <apachelogger> once SSDs are effortable
[13:03] <jpds> I find rm -rf /var/cache/pbuilder/ does wonders
[13:03] <apachelogger> omg
[13:04] <apachelogger> jpds: one does sudo pbuilder clean
[13:04] <apachelogger> and maybe apt-get clean in addition
[13:04] <apachelogger> but not rm -rf
[13:04]  * apachelogger shudders
[13:05] <apachelogger> hm
[13:05] <apachelogger> ok
[13:05] <apachelogger> 6gib should be enough for kdelibs
[13:06] <JontheEchidna> JontheEchidna: I testbuilt it
[13:06] <JontheEchidna> lool
[13:06] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: yes, I testbuilt it
[13:09] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: now that was schizophrenic pretty much :P
[13:10] <JontheEchidna> ya...
[13:29]  * smarter is bored
[13:37] <Riddell> smarter: backport some 4.1 packages!
[13:37] <smarter> Riddell: I could do that, but I'm running intrepid-only now :p
[13:37] <Riddell> smarter: chroots are a great thing
[13:39] <smarter> is there a secret page for backports too? :)
[13:39] <Riddell> smarter: yes, linked from the original secret page
[13:40] <smarter> I'll give it a try
[14:17]  * ryanakca wonders why meetings are always at the most inconvenient/impossible times
[14:18] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: because i used to set them?  :)
[14:18] <Hobbsee> besides, the most inconvenienced one should be Jucato, which should be a help.
[14:18] <Jucato> :D
[14:18] <Jucato> and still I show up (mostly :P)
[14:19] <Hobbsee> (as in, you no longer need to make things nice for australians)
[14:20] <ryanakca> heh, well, on Wednesday nights, it's impossible, on Saturdays, I just don't feel like getting up at 5/6 (depending on how DST works out). Oh well, I get to read the minutes
[14:20] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: ask if it can be changed now.
[14:20] <Hobbsee> you should be able to get a nicer timezone
[14:25] <Jucato> ryanakca: I usually have to get up at 3 or 4 :)
[14:25] <Jucato> for meetings I mean
[14:26] <Jucato> (but then again, I'm not that essential to world domination plans :P)
[14:27] <Tm_T> Jucato: true, son
[14:27] <ryanakca> Jucato: hehe, lucky you :) *stops complaining*
[14:29] <smarter> apachelogger: I've made some changes to backport instructions
[14:33] <smarter> apachelogger: bah, bad idea, too difficult
[14:39]  * apachelogger hands JontheEchidna a stone
[14:40] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: when I asked whether you built it I was talking about resonable builds in a clean chroot or clean installation
[14:40]  * apachelogger kicks aspell out and compiles kdelibs all over again
[14:41] <smarter> We really needs to use bzr more
[14:41] <apachelogger> oh righto
[14:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: what do you think about adding all the stuff to bzr?
[14:42] <apachelogger> all the stuff == kde4 packaging ;-)
[14:42] <smarter> Needs to update the backports? take the backport branch, merge with the not-backport branch, correct any conflict, and voilà
[14:43] <apachelogger> that is basically how I do it currently
[14:44] <apachelogger> just without bzr merging :P
[14:44] <apachelogger> though
[14:44] <apachelogger> smarter: what to do about the .install files?
[14:44] <smarter> new upstream version? dch -i && bzr bd (assuming there's a working debian/watch) and it will automagically download the new tarball and build everything
[14:45] <smarter> apachelogger: that's the annoying part :P
[14:45] <apachelogger> we should use git :P
[14:45] <apachelogger> I bet git has some solution for that
[14:45] <apachelogger> git has a solution for everything
[14:45] <smarter> git has solution for everything
[14:45] <smarter> haha :P
[14:46] <apachelogger> well, apparently we agree on that ;-)
[14:46] <smarter> you just need to know how to use the two hundreds commands, and have backup in case something goes wrong :P
[14:47] <apachelogger> unusable software IMO
[14:47] <smarter> or we could do a shell script which does something like dch -i "X-~hardy1~ppa1" && sed -i 's/usr/usr\/lib\/kde4/g' bla.dsc
[14:47] <apachelogger> smarter: still the package names differ
[14:51] <smarter> 'Provide a "Quick View" in the Tools menu, which uses the Previewer plasmoid.
[14:51] <smarter> geez, kde 4.1 is not even released that I want to switch to trunk again :P
[14:52] <smarter> (that's for dolphin ^)
[14:54] <smarter> apachelogger: another way to use vcs for backports: take the diff betwen release X and release Y, apply it to backport branch and dch -i
[14:59] <apachelogger> +1
[15:19] <Arby> afternoon all
[15:48]  * apachelogger is confused
[15:48] <apachelogger> hey Arby
[15:48] <Arby> confused, why?
[15:50] <apachelogger> kde4libs depends on kdebase-runtime >= 4.1.0
[15:50] <apachelogger> kdepimlibs can't build because kde4libs can't install because there ain't no kdebase-runtime >= 4.1.0
[15:50] <apachelogger> kdebase-runtime depends on kdepimlibs so that one can't be built either
[15:51] <Arby> hooray for circular dependencies :)
[15:52] <Arby> apachelogger: what do we have that I can work on packaging?
[15:53] <Hobbsee> ...yay
[15:53] <apachelogger> this is seriously sick
[15:54] <Jucato> kdebase shouldn't be depending on kdepimlibs
[15:54] <apachelogger> righto
[15:54]  * apachelogger is currently trying without the pimlibs dep
[15:54] <Jucato> wait, kde4libs depends on kdebase-runtime? kde4libs = kdelibs5?
[15:54] <Riddell> apachelogger: kdelibs5 shouldn't depend on kdebase-runtime
[15:55] <apachelogger> tell me about it :S
[15:55] <Jucato> other way around :/
[15:55] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30576/
[15:55] <apachelogger> our libs rules
[15:55] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30577/
[15:55] <apachelogger> debians
[15:59] <devfil__> Riddell: please upload https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/245682 while james_w works at the new merge
[16:01] <apachelogger> this is way too weird
[16:01] <apachelogger> Riddell: what to do?
[16:01] <apachelogger> leave the version at 4.0.98?
[16:03] <Riddell> apachelogger: is this hardy or intrepid?
[16:03] <Riddell> in intrepid apt-cache show kdelibs5 doesn't  show me a depends on kdebase-runtime
[16:06] <apachelogger> Riddell: hardy
[16:06] <apachelogger> though the rules are the same IIRC
[16:12] <apachelogger> hum
[16:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: apparently DEB_DH_SHLIBDEPS_ARGS_ALL doesn't work that welll in hardy
[16:13] <apachelogger> no trace of it in the buildlog
[16:23] <smarter> how can I add the kde4 ppa repo to my pbuilder?
[16:27] <apachelogger> either use the othermirror config and run update with --override-config
[16:27] <apachelogger> or sudo pbuilder login --save-after-exit
[16:28] <apachelogger> or was it --save-after-login
[16:28] <apachelogger> well something like that ;-)
[16:29] <smarter> ok ;)
[16:54]  * apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna
[16:55] <hunger> So few updates today? Is there a ubuntu developer meeting or something?
[16:55] <apachelogger> maybe everything breakable is broken already ;-)
[16:57] <Arby> apachelogger: mail sent, kdeaccessibility done
[16:57] <Arby> apachelogger: am I right in thinking that bindings is a bit of a state right now?
[17:00]  * Arby does edu instead
[17:01] <apachelogger> Arby: well, Riddell should take a look at the not-yet-packaged .net files but other than that is is perfectly fine package :)
[17:02] <Arby> hmm, I got the impression from watching the channel that things were broken, obviously I'm mistaken
[17:04] <apachelogger> Arby: they were
[17:05] <apachelogger> all good now
[17:05] <Arby> oh, shiny
[17:05] <Arby> ok I'll do edu first since I've already downloaded then maybe bindings later
[17:06] <Riddell> apachelogger: you wanted to know what a .dll.config file was or something?
[17:06] <Riddell> apachelogger: I've not looked at qyoto since I made the initial package but chances are what it did is the right thing
[17:06] <apachelogger> I saw them in debian's debian
[17:07] <apachelogger> and the debian bindings is pretty ... incomplete
[17:07] <apachelogger> so I think you should take a look at the new qyoto/kimono files
[17:07] <apachelogger> I listed them all in debian/not-installed :)
[17:27] <jjesse> afternoon
[17:31] <jjesse> so i'm going to be reloading my laptop, how good/reliable is suspend in kde4 these days?
[17:44] <james_w> Hi, I was told that you would like the new avahi to make kdelibs installable. If so then I just put an updated debdiff on bug 245682 if a core dev would like to upload it.
[17:45] <james_w> The sponsors are subscribed, so it will be done eventually, but I was given the impression that this was rather urgent, hence my visit.
[18:00] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: pong
[18:00] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: why does locale/all_languages not get installed?
[18:00] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: it's in the not-installed list
[18:01] <apachelogger> indeedy
[18:01] <JontheEchidna> btw, about to send in kdetoys
[18:03] <JontheEchidna> ooh, need to bump standards version up first
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent
[18:50] <Arby> what does it mean if 'make -f debian/rules list-missing'  reports missing files that aren't listed in debian/not-installed?
[18:50] <Arby> or more accurately what do I do about it?
[18:50] <Arby> specifically, -./usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/katepart/syntax/python-kig.xml in kdeedu
[18:51] <JontheEchidna> put it in the correct .install file
[18:51] <JontheEchidna> kig-kde4 install file in this case
[18:51] <JontheEchidna> (apt-file is a handy tool for the job)
[18:52] <Arby> thanks, I need to read the man page for apt-file then
[18:53] <JontheEchidna> apt-file search foo
[18:53] <JontheEchidna> foo = filename
[18:59]  * JontheEchidna testbuilds kdenetwork
[19:35] <apachelogger> yay
[19:35]  * apachelogger manged to ice his pbuilder
[19:40] <JontheEchidna> 36%
[19:41] <JontheEchidna> hmm, an estimated hour and 11 minutes left, then
[19:41] <JontheEchidna> not bad
[20:06] <Arby> apachelogger: bindings doesn't seem to like the dl_fix patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/30631/
[20:06] <Arby> how do I get around that?
[20:11] <apachelogger> Arby: remove the patch
[20:12] <apachelogger> if you look at the patched file you will see that it got applied upstream ;-)
[20:12] <Arby> ah that would explain it then :)
[20:12] <Arby> sometimes I wish debuild gave more information
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> 89%
[20:44] <Arby> JontheEchidna: did you package kdebindings for 4.0.98?
[20:44] <Arby> it seems to be tripping over libsmoke
[20:45] <JontheEchidna> yup
[20:45] <Arby> in particular http://paste.ubuntu.com/30648/
[20:45] <JontheEchidna> I commented smoke out, afaik
[20:45] <Arby> yes you did
[20:45] <Arby> but it still fails and I've no idea why
[20:45] <JontheEchidna> weird
[20:46] <Arby> I can delete the libsmokeqt4-2 dep altogether and it _still_ fails
[20:46] <Arby> which is flat out wierd
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> is the libsmoke binary package commented out in debian/control?
[20:47] <Arby> looking
[20:47] <Arby> yes it is
[20:48]  * JontheEchidna is puzzled
[20:49] <Arby> the complete control file is http://paste.ubuntu.com/30652/
[20:50] <Arby> -DENABLE_SMOKESOPRANO=OFF is commented out in rules, not sure if that is relevant
[20:51] <JontheEchidna> funnily enough things sorta just worked for me
[20:51] <JontheEchidna> I had to do some tweaking to the deps, but I don't think I ran into anything like this
[20:51] <Arby> lucky you :)
[20:52] <JontheEchidna> maybe apachelogger can help? He did the 4.1.0 packaging
[20:52] <JontheEchidna> I remember he patched the crap out of it
[20:53] <Arby> apachelogger: help ^^ :) please
[20:53] <apachelogger> Arby: see the intrepid patch
[20:53] <apachelogger> I added a patch for that
[20:53] <Arby> ah right
[20:56] <JontheEchidna> lol, nobody wants to take l10n
[20:57] <JontheEchidna> does your ruby script to hardy backports apachelogger?
[21:00] <JontheEchidna> kdenetwork 98% done...
[21:01] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: l10n don't get backported AFAIK
[21:01] <JontheEchidna> o, ic
[21:02]  * JontheEchidna doesn't care because he's a callous English speaker
[21:02] <JontheEchidna> :P
[21:03] <Arby> apachelogger: where can I find your kdebindings 4.1.0?
[21:03] <apachelogger> Arby: batdirectory
[21:03] <Arby> ah, k
[21:04] <Arby> that would explain why apt-get source didn't do what I expected then
[21:05] <JontheEchidna> dh_install time!
[21:22] <Arby> apachelogger: I copied the patch over but I'm still getting failures http://paste.ubuntu.com/30661/
[21:23] <apachelogger> Arby: that is strangy
[21:23] <apachelogger> build in a chroot
[21:23] <Arby> I am
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> was the patch in the series file?
[21:23] <Arby> yes I copied both over
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> strangy
[21:24] <Arby> indeed
[21:25] <JontheEchidna> still dh_installing...
[21:30] <Arby> seems like there's a missing file
[21:30]  * Arby pokes around looking for it
[21:31] <JontheEchidna> hmm... dinner
[21:31] <JontheEchidna> lololol, kopete takes forever to dh_install
[21:33] <JontheEchidna> heh, finally it moves on
[21:37] <Arby> the root of it seems to be this missing file kdebindings-4.1.0/obj-i486-linux-gnu/smoke/phonon/x_1.cpp: No such file or directory
[21:38] <Arby> which seems to be referred to in kdebindings-4.1.0/smoke/phonon/CMakeLists.txt
[21:38] <Arby> as in
[21:38] <Arby> set(smokephonon_LIB_SRCS ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}/smokedata.cpp
[21:38] <Arby> 	${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}/x_1.cpp
[21:39] <Arby> can anyone tell me what that means or how to tackle it
[21:39] <Arby> that's about as far as I can get
[21:43] <JontheEchidna> kdegraphics go!
[21:44] <JontheEchidna> oh, after I satisfy build-deps...
[21:50] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: sent kdenetwork backport
[21:53]  * Arby starts poking cmake documentation
[22:05] <JontheEchidna> are there still no tarballs for 4.1.0 at the kde ftp? o.o
[22:06] <toma> JontheEchidna: you mean the public part of it?
[22:06] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[22:06] <JontheEchidna> I guess
[22:06] <toma> it is released next week, as planned
[22:07] <JontheEchidna> ah, so then how do distros get the tarballs early?
[22:07] <toma> they are already available for distro's
[22:07] <JontheEchidna> oh
[22:08]  * JontheEchidna learned something new today
[22:09] <toma> packagers can request an account to get to them a bit earlier
[22:25] <a|wen> Arby: looks a bit like a problem i've seen before ... there has been some changes to cmake from 2.4 to 2.6 and where it looks/places some of the files; if it is related to this you might want to have a look at qtoctave which IIRC has a patch for it
[22:25] <Arby> a|wen: thanks for the clue
[22:26] <a|wen> :)
[22:31] <Arby> a|wen: do you remember the name of the patch?
[22:31] <Arby> I have add_path_cmake26
[22:31] <Arby> or build-out-of-source that look possible-ish
[22:32] <Arby> given my lack of understanding
[22:32] <a|wen> Arby: add_path_for_cmake26 is the one
[22:33] <Arby> ok, I have no idea how to modify that to work with kdebindings
[22:33] <Arby> I think this is beyond my skills :(
[22:34] <a|wen> Arby: your problem might not be the same ... pure guessing that it might be related
[22:35] <Arby> a|wen: all help is appreciated :)
[22:35] <Arby> my knowledge of cmake is just not good enough to fix this issue
[22:35]  * Arby gives up
[22:36]  * a|wen is a cmake novice too
[22:37] <Riddell> kdebindings is often too hard for experts
[22:38] <Riddell> there's extragear packages to be done if people are at a lose end :)
[22:39] <Arby> Riddell: no shortage of things to do :)
[22:40]  * Arby adds extragear to the todo list
[22:49] <JontheEchidna> kdegraphics is coming along nicely
[22:50] <JontheEchidna> I think I'll take kdesdk next if nobody was planning on doing it
[22:51] <JontheEchidna> or maybe webdev
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> heh, we're almost done
[23:10] <vorian> afternoon!
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> hey vorian, how're you doing?
[23:13] <vorian> good good
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> same
[23:13] <vorian> you guys did good on the ppa's
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> dh_install takes forever with okular...
[23:14] <vorian> pim's being a pain in the arse
[23:14] <vorian> haha
[23:14] <vorian> anyone doing bindings?
[23:14] <vorian> i thought apachelogger had that one done
[23:14] <JontheEchidna> not at the moment
[23:14] <Arby> I tried and failed
[23:14] <vorian> :(
[23:14] <vorian> what was the failure?
[23:15] <Arby> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30661/
[23:15]  * vorian looks
[23:15]  * JontheEchidna thinks it might be better to try a fresh backport from apachelogger's intrepid packages
[23:16] <vorian> Arby: do you have a fresh tarball?
[23:16] <Arby> I could get one easily enough.
[23:16] <Arby> it was clean when I started
[23:17] <Arby> I downloaded it from apachelogger's collection
[23:18] <vorian> ah cool
[23:18] <vorian> I thought he replaced all those
[23:18] <Arby> on the plus side, kdegames just completed :)
[23:18] <vorian> w00t!
[23:18] <vorian> kdiamond ftw
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/okular.svgz
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> ^Where would that go?
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> okular package?
[23:20] <vorian> hmm
[23:20] <vorian> maybe not anywhere
[23:20] <vorian> check the do not install file
[23:20] <JontheEchidna> not there
[23:20] <JontheEchidna> but it's only a source svg so maybe it shouldn't be installed?
[23:21] <vorian> are there any other hicolor icons
[23:21] <vorian> or are they all oxygen
[23:21] <vorian> ?
[23:21] <JontheEchidna> you mean in the okular-kde4.install file?
[23:21] <JontheEchidna> usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/okular/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/okular-gv.png
[23:21] <JontheEchidna> usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/okular/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/okular-gv.png
[23:21] <JontheEchidna> oh, and there are also non-scalable ones
[23:22] <JontheEchidna> okular.png
[23:22] <vorian> i'd throw it at the bottom of the scalable icon list
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> there aren't any scalable ones in there
[23:23] <vorian> hmmmph
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> afaik the scalable ones are just the svg source files
[23:23] <vorian> hold on a second
[23:26] <vorian> ut oh
[23:26] <JontheEchidna> wut?
[23:26] <vorian> be back in a while
[23:26] <vorian> nothing :)
[23:27] <JontheEchidna> heh
[23:27] <vorian> i would omit that svg
[23:27] <JontheEchidna> me too
[23:29] <Arby> interesting, why omit the svg? I've just hit a similar thing with kdegames
[23:32] <Arby> vorian: JontheEchidna: ^^ ?
[23:32] <JontheEchidna> it's the source svg that they derive the non-scalable stuff from
[23:32] <JontheEchidna> nothing uses it so it just takes up space
[23:33] <Arby> fair enough
[23:38] <Arby> I'll grab multimedia if no-one else is doing it?
[23:39]  * JontheEchidna is doing webdev
[23:39] <JontheEchidna> I think multimedia is free
[23:39]  * Arby wget's
[23:51] <JontheEchidna> eh, webdev shouldn't take long
[23:51] <JontheEchidna> 10%