[00:03] <_2> three alarm fire at the corner of chilli and dog [00:04] how can I tell if my repos are broken? [00:04] <_2> guido sudo apt-get update [00:04] _2 and what error would that give? [00:05] <_2> guido if any error then you have reason to be concerned [00:05] I get this "W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)" [00:05] <_2> ok W is warning not E error [00:06] so I'm ok? [00:06] I shouldn't change anything? [00:06] <_2> and it's telling you that you have two listings of the same source. and yes it's ok. i would change it, but you don't have too. [00:08] _2 this is my sources http://paste.ubuntu.com/30424/ [00:09] <_2> why did i know he would do that ??? [00:11] ahh, I see now... [00:11] nevermind, I fixed it :) === mario is now known as msi [00:11] thanks [00:15] <_2> guido http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d11dafeb3 me too [00:19] Q:no irc protokoll support for kopete (kde4) yet? planned? [00:19] can any one tell me plugins for wmi [00:20] is there any way of getting microsoft natural keyboard hotkeys to work on kubuntu? [00:23] guido: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Hotkeys? [00:24] thanks [00:27] can any one tell me how to install java for ma web browser [00:28] khurram: what browser do you use? [00:29] khurram: wich browser? FF? konqi? [00:29] lol# === root is now known as Guest76258 [00:34] Guest76258: pleas don't use root [00:34] !root [00:34] Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [00:34] Especially to log in to IR [00:34] IRC [00:36] Guest76258: Are you there? [00:36] !root > Guest76258 [00:37] Guest76258, please see my private message [00:42] anyone know which version of kde4 kubuntu alpha 3 has? [00:45] what's the diff between using a kde backend file or a flat file for compiz fusion [00:45] when i set kde it doesn't seem to work === ctilburg is now known as ctilburg_ [00:46] !kde4 | tony403 [00:46] tony403: KDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4 [00:47] thanks [00:48] genii: sure about that - isn't there 4.1 RCx ? [00:48] BooVeMan_work: I'm not up on latest kde4 versions but i'm sure someone will know something about it in #kubuntu-kde4 [00:49] genii, yes, i'm using kde4.1 RC and really like it. was just thinking about installing new though with the latest kubuntu [00:50] tony403: intrepid most certainlyt will include 4.1 === root is now known as Guest55834 === mario is now known as MarioDJNaro === root is now known as Guest37086 [01:24] does anyone use kubuntu anymore? this place used to be busier [01:25] lots of people use Kubuntu [01:25] (you could check in #kubuntu-kde4 at some other time, too, if you want KDE4 assistance) === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [01:38] hi [01:38] what can I use to make a Remote Desktop connection to a Windows XP computer? I can't install anything on the XP computer, it's remote. [01:38] I need to get to it now [01:39] anyone? [01:41] krdc [01:42] that can connect with rdp === root is now known as Guest78919 === sea is now known as sea4ever [01:59] anyone here? [02:00] anyone here? [02:01] nope [02:03] hi, kde restarts by itself for no aparent reason, how can I tell what's wrong? (newbie here) === mike is now known as Guest14818 === Looney-Tunes is now known as Looney_Tunes === Looney_Tunes is now known as Looney-Tunes [02:09] hello [02:10] i was wondering if someone could help me with a problem [02:17] hello [02:17] i was wondering if someone could help me [02:17] hi [02:17] !anyone | jgold [02:17] jgold: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [02:18] i cannot seem to login as root on my comp, and i am trying to update to the latest version of kubuntu, when it asks me for the password for root [02:18] i guess what i need to do is retrieve the password for root, how do i do that [02:19] Hmm [02:19] *can* i do that [02:19] did you set a root password? One normally uses sudo. and the first 'sudoers' user password [02:20] i do not remember setting a root password, maybe that is my problem? [02:20] but how would i do that? [02:20] jgold: when it asks for administrator password, that means "your" password [02:20] jgold: when you first installed kubuntu you created an user, that user had a password [02:21] jgold: that's the password you should use whenever you "sudo" something [02:21] there is no 'root' user password. :) [02:21] !root |jgold [02:21] jgold: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [02:21] and i cannot use sudo, because i am using a graphical program to update kubuntu, and then it asks for password [02:22] jgold: use your user's password there [02:22] i cannot seem to login as root on my comp, and i am trying to update to the latest version of kubuntu, **when it asks me for the password for root** <--- the program is using sudo/kdesu already [02:23] and i put in my password, for the only user on this system that i know of, and it would not take it [02:23] and i know that is correct, b/c i have to login to that user to do anything [02:23] jgold: I know this is a dumb question, but did you have caps on at the time? [02:23] no [02:24] try 'sudo -s' and see if you can get a root shell , as a test. [02:24] i know that i put in the password correctly, i put it in several times [02:24] hold on, i have not looked at that thread that u told me too yet [02:25] maybe that will shed some light on the situation [02:25] jgold: if all else fails I think "sudo passwd" will let you set a password for root [02:26] <_2> repo Q is there any such thing as security/ multiverse ??? [02:27] _2: nope. not even universe [02:27] <_2> there's not isn't there [02:27] <_2> ok [02:27] remember that Ubuntu/Canonical only guarantees security updates and fixes for main and restricted. [02:28] <_2> what about updates/ multiberse ??? [02:28] hi [02:28] <_2> or universe ? [02:28] ok i configured privoxy and tor. i can browse anonymously through the tor network. but when i turn it off via the firefox tor button. im still using the tor network. [02:28] <_2> Jucato updates/ ? [02:29] _2: same thing. though I'm not 100% sure on that -updates [02:29] hey, thx for helping me guido, i can get it now [02:29] jgold: sure :) [02:29] <_2> ok. cause dapper seems to find a package list for updates but not security on both uni and multi [02:30] <_2> so i was just checking for confirmation [02:33] <_2> hmmm Jucato then why do i also some times see this from apt-get update Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages [8189B] [02:33] _2: why? well there's only one reason I can think of [02:33] magick. [02:33] nah I couldn't think that :) [02:34] reason: I could be wrong :P [02:34] does anyone know of an app like ratiomaster but for linux? [02:34] <_2> see that's what confuses me. most of the time it says ign. but some times i get a get on it, and it's one of the bigest files in the update [02:34] what's ratiomaster? === root is now known as Guest74600 [02:35] RatioMaster is an application designed for spoofing uploads on BitTorrent trackers. It connects to a tracker and behaves like a normal BitTorrent client, but without actually uploading to / downloading from other peers in the swarm. It reports to the tracker that it's uploading (or downloading or both, it's your choice) at a certain rate, thus making it useful for artificially increasing your ratio on certain sites that track a user's overall ratio (total [02:35] uploaded/total downloaded). [02:35] * _2 is confused [02:36] Does anyone know how to make my title dissapear in my konsole? I'm trying to just get a totally clear window where I can only see the text on the screen [02:36] <_2> Jucato wrong ? did the world end without telling me ? === root is now known as Guest99413 [02:37] Anyone know? [02:39] <_2> XJman wouldn't an embeded terminal be better ? [02:39] Why yes it woul. I couldn't think of the name of it! [02:40] Do I need to apt-get one? [02:40] cant konsole and F11 do that? [02:41] It doesn't when I try Dr_willis [02:42] Anyone else know? [02:44] Basicly this is the effect I'm looking for http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/nilarimogard/33cd3191.jpg === root is now known as Guest51216 [02:48] Anyone know how to get an embedded terminal in kubuntu? [02:49] XJman: check this site http://lifehacker.com/software/linux-tip/embed-a-terminal-in-the-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-294005.php [02:50] Thanks guido [02:50] anyone know the irc channel for getting information on HP printers [02:50] XJman: sure :) [02:51] Now this sounds stupid, but I've walked through some stuff for gnome and tried it on my kde it broke. Will this work around that? [02:52] XJman: what do you mean? [02:53] I don't remember what the walkthrough was for... but it was for gnome, so I tried to work around some of the differences and it just would boot into a screwed up kde === gabriel is now known as gabspeck [02:55] hey there, i've been having some issues regarding audio cds playing on amarok... [02:56] XJman: I really couldn't say... I found that site googling.. right now I'm checking for a kubuntu tutorial because I liked the idea [02:57] Yeah, thats what I've been looking for. I've come across this one before. I'll try it again hopefully I'll have some luck guido [02:57] If you do succeed, do tell XJman [03:00] It would be too good to keep to myself, and I get easily excited and want to show off. So, you guys will know [03:06] Is Tilda what I'm looking for? [03:08] XJman: that doesn't seem to be as embedded as one would like [03:12] Yeah, its not close to embedded.. It keeps jumping on top of everything === Trevi is now known as Trevinho [03:16] hi [03:16] ? [03:16] hello [03:16] hillao [03:16] I need Java for Yahoo games should I download from synaptic or from sun [03:16] i want to do audio chat with my gmail account, which software will suite for me in ubuntu [03:16] sun [03:17] phil66: sun [03:17] harpreet ...Thanks [03:17] phil66: its a pain o configure it [03:18] hi folks, i can't run skype as it throws the following error: skype: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv [03:18] any idea? [03:18] XJman: still around? [03:18] phil66: I disagree, (k)ubuntu-restricted-extras will give you what you need.Just make sure all your repos are uncommented [03:18] lokemz: wat version? [03:18] Harpreet..Yes that why I asked [03:19] harpreet: 2.0.0.72-1 [03:19] phil66: go for sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extra [03:19] lokemz: when did u install skype/ [03:19] hi, i want to do audio chat with my gmail account, which software will suite for me in ubuntu [03:20] gmail does audio? [03:20] harpreet: quite some time ago [03:20] harpreet: was working b4. desktop-effects-kde4 isn't working as well [03:21] lokemz: is it 64 bit system? [03:21] harpreet: nope. 32 bit. [03:21] phil66: install sun java and with java alternatives make it default and change in konqueror the path to java..for sun [03:22] Running Firefox 3.01 [03:23] phil66: is it 64 bit? [03:23] in windows i used gtalk for audio chat but in linux i dont no which software??? i tried lot in google search [03:23] how can I get a fullscreen konsole? [03:23] harpreet..32 bit [03:23] guido: press F7 [03:24] with function key [03:24] harpreet: nothing happens [03:24] contol, function, F7 [03:24] fn, F1 guido [03:24] ctrl+alt+F7 [03:25] that's for switching between terminals [03:25] BluesKaj: thing is i dont wanna press on mine and check haha [03:25] I'm interested in making a konsole that's as big as the whole desktop [03:25] I'm trying to upgrade a system to 8.04, but it keeps getting stuck at "Generating locales.. en_AU.UTF-8". Any ideas? [03:26] harpreet: try ctrl+alt+F1 ,then ctrl+alt+F7 [03:26] guido: it will work ctl alt F1,-F7 [03:26] I'm still not having much luck with a embedded konsole [03:26] <_2> guido konsoles menu allows switching to/form full screen mode [03:26] BluesKaj: it will take me to console and i dont wanna loose Gui yet [03:27] Konsole --> ctrl-shift-F = fullscreen mode [03:27] thanks :) [03:27] phil66: make sure in browser the java is configured by . . config:plugins after u hv installed sun [03:28] <_2> harpreet i don't think you and guido are speaking the same lamguage. [03:28] harpreet...Will do thanks good night [03:28] it was ctrl-shift-F what I was looking for, thanks :) [03:28] phil66: goodnight [03:28] <_2> dr_willis ah is that the default hotkey ? [03:29] in windows i used gtalk for audio chat but in linux i dont no which software??? i tried lot in google search [03:31] <_2> !teamspeak [03:31] Teamspeak is the proprietry VoIP software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak For a open source alternative consider using Mumble http://mumble.sourceforge.net/ [03:31] is anyone else using the fglrx driver? [03:31] <_2> !p2p [03:31] <_2> !aim [03:31] Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information [03:31] Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Pidgin [03:32] <_2> i had no idea my lag was that high... sorry guys. [03:33] anybody? [03:33] <_2> euphgeek on a lappy yeah [03:34] in pidgin i cant do audio chat [03:34] when I try to install it according to the wiki instructions, the insmod instruction gives me an error [03:35] <_2> euphgeek what error ? [03:35] "Error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -l Operation not permitted" [03:35] <_2> have to use sudo [03:36] I'm wondering if it's because I'm running the CD version, or if there's something else [03:36] I am using sudo [03:37] <_2> conflicting module in use ? [03:37] how do I tell? [03:38] <_2> lsmod | less ??? [03:39] I don't see anything conflicting [03:40] unless maybe ati_agp conflicts? [03:44] <_2> euphgeek ok. it seems that it's disabled on the live CD so i'm out of thoughts there. [03:45] ok, I thought it might be because I'm using the live CD...I was just hoping I could test it before installing [03:47] <_2> [Lag 172] yuch [03:51] hi [03:52] i will use amule-daemon, but with a gui, prefereible a kde (qt) gui. Someone knows about one gui for kde? [03:52] exist something like this? === ben_ is now known as XJman [03:52] Anyone here run a file server [03:53] samba, nfs, and ssh (for sshfs) yes. :) === mario is now known as msi [03:55] really [03:55] The pc that is my file server will hold all of my music, movies, and install files for games, OS's, and various different software. If I'm going to also use this pc as a desktop alongside my laptop would it be bad news to try and stream the media from it? [03:56] depends on the load everything is putting on it. and the network connection/speeds [03:56] and the power of the pc. :) cpu/ram/ect. [03:57] I've finally gotten everything with gigabit ethernet at the moment. Its a quad core AMD 4gb ram and will be running Gentoo [03:57] where to install source code? [03:57] XJman, I imagine it will take quite a bit of load then./ :) [03:58] what source code soniker89 ? [03:58] I just want to make sure. I'm getting mixed signals. My brother who is a bit more pc savy than myself says not a chance. I'm looking for more opinions. Thanks [03:58] one normally just has the source someplace, you then compile it.. the location of the source dosent matter much. [03:58] soniker89, look in ./configure --help look at the prefix [03:58] why [03:58] ? [03:58] XJman, You aint streaming like 100000+ streams are you? [03:59] soniker89, you may want to be a bit more verbose and concise. [03:59] There are 4 pc's including the file server [03:59] Im new en kubuntu [03:59] ? [03:59] XJman, so 4 streams at the most? highdef? or just audio ? === msi is now known as mario [04:00] I do have some hi-def video yes [04:00] Try it and see I guess.. === mario is now known as msi [04:00] Worst that happens is a fail [04:00] streaming is a ltitel different then 3 machines all trying to play files over nfs/samba also... [04:01] I mainly want to store the files there, then move them as I need to. [04:01] well, I just compiled VIM In Desktop [04:02] I have no idea how to lunch it? [04:02] The #mythbuntu guys will proberly have a lot more experience in the speeds/limitations. of such setups. [04:02] soniker89, if you just did a 'make' it put the compiled binaries somewhere in the source directory tree. [04:02] I'll try there, thanks [04:03] once you do a 'make install' it copies binaries and support files to the system location [04:04] so that mean I can erace the folder in tha Desktop [04:04] and it still working [04:05] yes after you installed it. unless you spesifyed the install location to your desktop [04:05] ok now it is install how to lunch it or make an icon luncher [04:06] how would you normaly make a shortcut? [04:07] i have no idea how to make shortcuts [04:09] dude.. edit your menus or add a shortcut. if you cant do that,, then you should go read a bit [04:09] nuxil where can read about it [04:10] how about in kde docs [04:10] or wiki.. [04:10] good advices! [04:13] hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 [04:30] i have a problem with my screen resilution, it's @ 640x840 and i would like it to be back @ where it was when i first installed Kubuntu, can anyone help me out??? [04:31] HELLO IS ANYONE OUT THERE TO HELP ME OUT OR NOT??? [04:32] WTF??? [04:32] im new too but someting [04:33] I COME HERE FOR SOME HELP & NO ONE ****'N ANSWER ME WTF [04:33] andare :: try using this in konsole : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [04:34] all i would like help with is to get my screen reslution back to where it was install of 640x840 i don't think that's too had to ask for, i think not [04:34] thedimension: what does that even do??? [04:34] or try system setting [04:35] it walks you though configuring the xserver again, which is where your screen resolutions are set [04:35] i did & it couldn't even help me out cuz the highest screen reslution that it goes up to is 640x840 [04:35] andare also, this is not a paid support channel. People here volunteer and will help you if they can as they can. Patience is a virtue. [04:36] techdimension: i know that patience is a virtue but also i don't like it when ppl shit on me for no reason @ all [04:36] what does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do ? [04:37] techdimension: i'm srry if i'm gett'n some ppl mad but i am a noob when it comes with linux that's why i'm try'n to stay away from windows and go to linux all the way [04:39] Techdimension:ppl have told me that i have to learn for myself well i don't know much about computer's besides on to use them & i really do like to use linux cuz i know that's it's a hell of alot more scure than windows is any day of the week [04:39] andare : I was trying to give you a tip. In most cases within the linux community, impatience and hastiness is often ignored [04:40] Techdimension: i do understand that & i'm srry i'll do whatever i can on NOT piss'n ppl off from now, i promise. [04:40] techdimension, you could not have said that better ;) [04:40] thanks nuxil [04:41] andare : back to the problem at hand... [04:42] andare : if you use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it will walk you though configuring your keyboard, monitor, video card, and mouse. When it asks what resolutions to use, select the one that's right for your computer [04:42] techdimension: ok it's like this when i did start up my computer it went from regualer screen reslution to 640x840 how do i put it back to the same reslution that it was when i frist installed Kubuntu??? [04:43] andare, whats regular resolution? [04:44] i think it was like 1240 someth'n [04:44] andare, if you got nvidia card. you can use nvidia settings, which would be the easyest way. [04:45] and other metodes are to edit your xorg.conf file .. there are prob 10 ways to change the screen resolution,. [04:45] nuxil: i have tried that but the thing is that my computer was make for win2000 and my graphics card is nvidia tnt2 [04:46] you must run it with kdesu .. also check the module you are running. hopefylly its not vesa :p [04:47] sorry, I have to go [04:47] goodnight [04:47] good night [04:47] nuxil: i'm a noob when it come's to linux so srry to say i don't know what ur talk'n about [04:47] !wiki [04:47] http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation. [04:48] go there [04:48] which link the first or the second one? [04:48] you can check our em both, [04:48] *out *out [04:49] err.. im tierd. [04:49] nuxil: it's ok, i'm tired too [04:53] nuxil: i hope this can help u out onto help'n me out it's about my graphics card 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15) [04:54] using gutsy, how do i upgrade to firefox 3 full instead of beta 4? [04:54] nuxil: so do u think that u can help me & get my screen reslution back to here it was or will i be stuck with 640x840??? === casey is now known as Nitchevo [05:16] nuxil: hey, i fixed it with the link that u told me to go to, thnx alot :-) [05:16] nuxil: i have got my screen reslution back from 640x840 to 1280x960 [05:17] nuxil: :-D [05:18] see. it was not that hard :) [05:18] nuxil: yeah i guess it was'n that hard :-) [05:19] nuxil: i would like to know how to put avi file to a dvd so i can watch it onto my home dvd player's? [05:20] nuxil: i know that windows as lot's of programs for that but i do NOT want windows i WANT LINUX from now on :-D [05:20] does anyone know if bluray players work on kubuntu? [05:20] andare, you mean. convert the files ? [05:20] andare, if you need to convert the files. you can loot into menucoder | tanscoder. if you just want o burn dvd, install k3b [05:21] nuxil: yes convert files [05:21] nuxil: i already have k3B [05:22] nuxil: where can i find menucoder | tanscoder so i can put them to a dvd? [05:22] if you need to enable some repos to fetch (g)transcoder.. look at the wiki again :) [05:23] andare, multiverse or in universe.. use adept [05:23] nuxil: got it, aka already there ;-) [05:25] andare, there is also dvdshrink but i dont know if it convert avi's [05:25] nuxil: yeah i have tried dvdshrink but i never really got it to work on linux [05:25] Is there a way to get Dolphin to open a directory in preview mode? (just one directory... not all of them) [05:26] andare, i just know about it.. never used it. [05:26] nuxil: it's kool [05:27] helo everyone!... Is there a way I can get rid of Dolphin in JDE? [05:27] tomahasamoot, hehe you use that crap :p konqueror forever ;p [05:27] opps sorry, KDE. [05:28] nuxil: does konqueror have split view? [05:29] leo, yes you can use konqueror as default fm [05:29] yes you can have split view in konqeror [05:29] same as in krusader [05:30] nuxil, where can i configure it., thx :) [05:31] leo, well,, i installed konqueror and uninstalled dolphin.. [05:31] i uninstalled it bc i hate it.. but if you remove it,, be sure it dosent remove your kde,, [05:32] nuxil.... :0 ok.. got it... thx again. [05:33] in comparison I like KDE 3.5.9, with KDE4 do you think it's ok to upgrade, does it really have big advantage. [05:33] leo, maybe you can change it in systemsetting.. i never checked there because i wanted it gone forever, its one of the worst things i have had installed on my pc ;p [05:34] nuxil, thx.. [05:44] leo: kde4 as in 4.0.x is a once try and back to kde3 - haven't tried 4.1 though [05:46] nuxil: Okay, I've poked around with Konqueror, and I see your point... it'll take awhile to get used to, tho [05:47] nuxil: how do I set it to be the default file manager? [05:48] tomahasamoot, i can not say.. first thing i did after installing kubuntu was to remove dolphin,. and installed konqueror instaed,, [05:48] tomahasamoot, look in system settings. === mozart is now known as Guest79189 [05:50] nuxil: I don't see it in System Settings [05:50] hi [05:53] tomahasamoot, not sure then.. look in dolphin settings or konqueror settings.. [05:54] tomahasamoot: I think its in update-alternatives --config [05:58] !d3lphin | tomahasamoot [05:58] tomahasamoot: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin. [06:01] Jucato: thanks [06:01] Jucato: why was it changed to Dolphin? [06:02] tomahasamoot: in preparation for KDE 4. but the version of Dolphin there is 100 times better than the Dolphin in KDE 3 [06:02] tomahasamoot: simpler - more user freindly for beginners [06:02] * Jucato is *not* exaggerating that [06:03] BooVeMan: that's the rationale for Dolphin itself. but the reason for using an unmaintained version of Dolphin for KDE 3 (D3lphin) was the one I gave above :) [06:03] it was supposed to help "prepare" Kubuntu users to a new file manager (but it really doesn't achieve that in the long run...) [06:04] Jucato: it was set to Dolphin KDE4, but the about says it's 3.5.9 [06:06] Jucato: I'm guessing that it will be better than the over hyped Konq. tho. Guess I'll have to wait to see it. Any idea when KDE4 will be usable? The "release" is an alpha [06:06] Jucato: I use both of them alongside - no real preference - mounting and unmounting seems to be more reliable in dolphin [06:07] tomahasamoot: if you were using Dolphin (KDE 4), then there's an option in Settings -> View Modes to "Remember view properties for each folder". It would remember your view settings for that particular folder you want. and it would leave the others as long as you don't touch their view settings [06:07] Jucato: thanks :-) [06:08] tomahasamoot: I recon that for intrepid there will be a kde4.1 verson included - before that I wouldn't recommend kde 4 pro productive worrk [06:09] * Jucato has been using 4.1 since march or april... [06:10] tomahasamoot: "when KDE will be usable?" <-- that entirely depends on what you consider to be "usable". You'll discover soon enough that "usable" is as subjective as "beautiful" [06:11] BooVeMan: thanks :-) I wish they'd have waited till it was stable before releasing it tho, as they loose crediblity... [06:12] tomahasamoot: KDE doesn't make releases like Windows (single "stable" "complete" release, and just service packs in between) [06:12] the closest analogy to a release system would be Mac OS X. (10.0 sucked, 10.1 sucked less, 10.2 started getting better, etc etc) [06:13] you might want to read http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080710131440951 [06:14] (btw, it *is* "stable"... but strangely enough, people's definition of "stable" seems to be synonymous to "feature complete" or "absolutely finished") [06:14] tomahasamoot: I don't think it wasn't that unstable - just not finished and polished [06:14] * BooVeMan *grumbel* Jucato beat me - again [06:14] :P [06:14] and I typed more than you :P [06:15] Jucato: native english speaker? [06:15] ESL [06:15] English as Second Language :) [06:15] to me, "stable" means that the included features work, not that it has every feature you want ('cause you'll aways want more) [06:16] tomahasamoot: see? that's not the true meaning of "stable". :) [06:16] tomahasamoot: the features included in kde4.0 worked - there weren't may though [06:16] "stable" means "does what it's supposed or advertised to do with no or little serious bugs or crashes [06:17] and 4.0 was *never* advertised to have all the promised features of KDE 4 [06:17] Jucato: ESL - as well - but living in a spanish speaking country (STL) [06:17] they didn't work. It was a buggy mess. [06:20] I couldn't even log in half the time [06:20] * Jucato hasn't had stability issues with 4.0.. only feature issues [06:21] i feel like a crash test dummy when i run kde4 [06:21] * BooVeMan only tested kde4 in a vm... [06:22] nuxil: I hope you weren't running the pre-release versions of 4.1, because they are, well, pre-release [06:22] oh, and there's a #kubuntu-kde4 channel for KDE 4 help [06:23] Jucato, i got time to wait some year(s) on kde4.. i got what i need and want in kde3 [06:25] what i mean,, i can wait for kde4 to become more useble [06:26] how do i install java via apt? i cant figure out the name of the package [06:26] !info sun-java6-bin [06:26] No suitable Java Virtual Machine could be found on your system. [06:26] The version of the JVM must be at least 1.6. [06:26] sun-java6-bin (source: sun-java6): Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture dependent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-06-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 26646 kB, installed size 79996 kB [06:26] ahhh, ty [06:27] already the newest version :S [06:27] i need java vm [06:27] * DarkriftX doesnt know hte difference :S [06:28] !info java virtual machine [06:28] 'virtual' is not a valid distribution [06:28] !info java-virtual-machine [06:28] Package java-virtual-machine does not exist in hardy [06:28] that's it already. run "sudo update-alternatives ---config java" and choose the sun version [06:29] Jucato: Okay, I see the point on Groklaw, about it being a Devolper release... but the they should have called it that. KDE 4.0 SDK *** Not For End Users *** [06:30] tomahasamoot: they did (except the SDK part) [06:30] people just don't like to listen... [06:34] No suitable Java Virtual Machine could be found on your system. The version of the JVM must be at least 1.6. Please define INSTALL4J_JAVA_HOME to point to a suitable JVM. [06:34] You can also try to delete the JVM cache file /home/darkrift/.install4j [06:34] Jucato: you may be right... I was getting it second hand tho Kubuntu, and they may have dropped the ball. But they've corrected it now. [06:34] anyone got any ideas? [06:35] ive done what 4 ubuntu threads said and installed some other crap, didnt work, tried your idea Jucato, still says same thing [06:35] !java-vm [06:35] Sorry, I don't know anything about java-vm [06:35] !info jvm [06:35] Package jvm does not exist in hardy [06:40] goodmorning === mike is now known as Guest58398 [06:43] hi [06:43] i have a question [06:44] anyone there? [06:45] !ask | Guest58398 [06:45] Guest58398: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [06:45] sorry, my first time here [06:46] i am trying to adjust the brightness on kubuntu but i can't seem to do so. I am using a sony vaio vgn-nr110e edition. [06:47] hm, Guest58398, do you have guidance-power-manager running? the green battery charge monitor in your status bar? try it there [06:48] nope [06:48] there is no option to change the brightness [06:48] hola [06:49] i have suspend, hibernate, and CPU policy [06:49]