[00:03] <_2> three alarm fire at the corner of chilli and dog
[00:04] <guido> how can I tell if my repos are broken?
[00:04] <_2> guido sudo apt-get update
[00:04] <guido> _2 and what error would that give?
[00:05] <_2> guido if any error then you have reason to be concerned
[00:05] <guido> I get this "W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)"
[00:05] <_2> ok  W is warning   not E error
[00:06] <guido> so I'm ok?
[00:06] <guido> I shouldn't change anything?
[00:06] <_2> and it's telling you that you have two listings of the same source.     and yes it's ok.    i would change it, but you don't have too.
[00:08] <guido> _2 this is my sources http://paste.ubuntu.com/30424/
[00:09] <_2> why did i know he would do that ???
[00:11] <guido> ahh, I see now...
[00:11] <guido> nevermind, I fixed it :)
[00:11] <guido> thanks
[00:15] <_2> guido http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d11dafeb3  me too
[00:19] <ralph> Q:no irc protokoll support for kopete (kde4) yet? planned?
[00:19] <khurram> can any one tell me plugins for wmi
[00:20] <guido> is there any way of getting microsoft natural keyboard hotkeys to work on kubuntu?
[00:23] <ralph> guido: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Hotkeys?
[00:24] <guido> thanks
[00:27] <khurram> can any one tell me how to install java for ma web browser
[00:28] <guido> khurram: what browser do you use?
[00:29] <ralph> khurram: wich browser? FF? konqi?
[00:29] <ralph> lol#
[00:34] <histo> Guest76258: pleas don't use root
[00:34] <histo> !root
[00:34] <histo> Especially to log in to IR
[00:34] <histo> IRC
[00:36] <histo> Guest76258: Are you there?
[00:36] <histo> !root > Guest76258
[00:42] <tony403> anyone know which version of kde4 kubuntu alpha 3 has?
[00:45] <miraclemaxim> what's the diff between using a kde backend file or a flat file for compiz fusion
[00:45] <miraclemaxim> when i set kde it doesn't seem to work
[00:46] <genii> !kde4 | tony403
[00:47] <tony403> thanks
[00:48] <BooVeMan_work> genii: sure about that - isn't there 4.1 RCx ?
[00:48] <genii> BooVeMan_work: I'm not up on latest kde4 versions but i'm sure someone will know something about it in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:49] <tony403> genii, yes, i'm using kde4.1 RC and really like it. was just thinking about installing new though with the latest kubuntu
[00:50] <BooVeMan_work> tony403: intrepid most certainlyt will include 4.1
[01:24] <tony_> does anyone use kubuntu anymore? this place used to be busier
[01:25] <crimsun_> lots of people use Kubuntu
[01:25] <crimsun_> (you could check in #kubuntu-kde4 at some other time, too, if you want KDE4 assistance)
[01:38] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[01:38] <MachinTrucChose> what can I use to make a Remote Desktop connection to a Windows XP computer? I can't install anything on the XP computer, it's remote.
[01:38] <MachinTrucChose> I need to get to it now
[01:39] <MachinTrucChose> anyone?
[01:41] <miraclemaxim> krdc
[01:42] <miraclemaxim> that can connect with rdp
[01:59] <Looney-Tunes> anyone here?
[02:00] <Looney-Tunes> anyone here?
[02:01] <blunder> nope
[02:03] <guido> hi, kde restarts by itself for no aparent reason, how can I tell what's wrong? (newbie here)
[02:09] <jgold> hello
[02:10] <jgold> i was wondering if someone could help me with a problem
[02:17] <jgold> hello
[02:17] <jgold> i was wondering if someone could help me
[02:17] <guido> hi
[02:17] <guido> !anyone | jgold
[02:18] <jgold> i cannot seem to login as root on my comp, and i am trying to update to the latest version of kubuntu, when it asks me for the password for root
[02:18] <jgold> i guess what i need to do is retrieve the password for root, how do i do that
[02:19] <Dr_willis_> Hmm
[02:19] <jgold> *can* i do that
[02:19] <Dr_willis_> did you set a root password? One normally uses sudo. and the first 'sudoers' user password
[02:20] <jgold> i do not remember setting a root password, maybe that is my problem?
[02:20] <jgold> but how would i do that?
[02:20] <Jucato> jgold: when it asks for administrator password, that  means "your" password
[02:20] <guido> jgold: when you first installed kubuntu you created an user, that user had a password
[02:21] <guido> jgold: that's the password you should use whenever you "sudo" something
[02:21] <Dr_willis_> there is no 'root' user password. :)
[02:21] <guido> !root |jgold
[02:21] <jgold> and i cannot use sudo, because i am using a graphical program to update kubuntu, and then it asks for password
[02:22] <guido> jgold: use your user's password there
 i cannot seem to login as root on my comp, and i am trying to update to the latest version of kubuntu, **when it asks me for the password for root** <--- the program is using sudo/kdesu already
[02:23] <jgold> and i put in my password, for the only user on this system that i know of, and it would not take it
[02:23] <jgold> and i know that is correct, b/c i have to login to that user to do anything
[02:23] <guido> jgold: I know this is a dumb question, but did you have caps on at the time?
[02:23] <jgold> no
[02:24] <Dr_willis_> try 'sudo -s' and see if you can get a root shell , as a test.
[02:24] <jgold> i know that i put in the password correctly, i put it in several times
[02:24] <jgold> hold on, i have not looked at that thread that u told me too yet
[02:25] <jgold> maybe that will shed some light on the situation
[02:25] <guido> jgold: if all else fails I think "sudo passwd" will let you set a password for root
[02:26] <_2> repo Q   is there any such thing as security/ multiverse ???
[02:27] <Jucato> _2: nope. not even universe
[02:27] <_2> there's not isn't there
[02:27] <_2> ok
[02:27] <Jucato> remember that Ubuntu/Canonical only guarantees security updates and fixes for main and restricted.
[02:28] <_2> what about  updates/  multiberse ???
[02:28] <greeg> hi
[02:28] <_2> or universe ?
[02:28] <greeg> ok i configured privoxy and tor.  i can browse anonymously through the tor network.  but when i turn it off via the firefox tor button. im still using the tor network.
[02:28] <_2> Jucato updates/  ?
[02:29] <Jucato> _2: same thing. though I'm not 100% sure on that -updates
[02:29] <jgold> hey, thx for helping me guido, i can get it now
[02:29] <guido> jgold: sure :)
[02:29] <_2> ok.   cause dapper seems to find a package list for updates but not security  on both uni and multi
[02:30] <_2> so i was just checking for confirmation
[02:33] <_2> hmmm Jucato then why do i also some times see this from apt-get update    Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages [8189B]
[02:33] <Jucato> _2: why? well there's only one reason I can think of
[02:33] <crimsun_> magick.
[02:33] <Jucato> nah I couldn't think that :)
[02:34] <Jucato> reason: I could be wrong :P
[02:34] <guido> does anyone know of an app like ratiomaster but for linux?
[02:34] <_2> see that's what confuses me.   most of the time it says  ign.   but some times i get a get on it, and it's one of the bigest files in the update
[02:34] <Jucato> what's ratiomaster?
[02:35] <guido> RatioMaster is an application designed for spoofing uploads on BitTorrent trackers. It connects to a tracker and behaves like a normal BitTorrent client, but without actually uploading to / downloading from other peers in the swarm. It reports to the tracker that it's uploading (or downloading or both, it's your choice) at a certain rate, thus making it useful for artificially increasing your ratio on certain sites that track a user's overall ratio (total
[02:35] <guido> uploaded/total downloaded).
[02:35]  * _2 is confused
[02:36] <XJman> Does anyone know how to make my title dissapear in my konsole? I'm trying to just get a totally clear window where I can only see the text on the screen
[02:36] <_2> Jucato wrong ?     did the world end without telling me ?
[02:37] <XJman> Anyone know?
[02:39] <_2> XJman wouldn't an embeded terminal be better ?
[02:39] <XJman> Why yes it woul. I couldn't think of the name of it!
[02:40] <XJman> Do I need to apt-get one?
[02:40] <Dr_willis_> cant  konsole and F11 do that?
[02:41] <XJman> It doesn't when I try Dr_willis
[02:42] <XJman> Anyone else know?
[02:44] <XJman> Basicly this is the effect I'm looking for http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/nilarimogard/33cd3191.jpg
[02:48] <XJman> Anyone know how to get an embedded terminal in kubuntu?
[02:49] <guido> XJman: check this site http://lifehacker.com/software/linux-tip/embed-a-terminal-in-the-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-294005.php
[02:50] <XJman> Thanks guido
[02:50] <jtisme> anyone know the irc channel for getting information on HP printers
[02:50] <guido> XJman: sure :)
[02:51] <XJman> Now this sounds stupid, but I've walked through some stuff for gnome and tried it on my kde it broke. Will this work around that?
[02:52] <guido> XJman: what do you mean?
[02:53] <XJman> I don't remember what the walkthrough was for... but it was for gnome, so I tried to work around some of the differences and it just would boot into a screwed up kde
[02:55] <gabspeck> hey there, i've been having some issues regarding audio cds playing on amarok...
[02:56] <guido> XJman: I really couldn't say... I found that site googling.. right now I'm checking for a kubuntu tutorial because I liked the idea
[02:57] <XJman> Yeah, thats what I've been looking for. I've come across this one before. I'll try it again hopefully I'll have some luck guido
[02:57] <guido> If you do succeed, do tell XJman
[03:00] <XJman> It would be too good to keep to myself, and I get easily excited and want to show off. So, you guys will know
[03:06] <XJman> Is Tilda what I'm looking for?
[03:08] <guido> XJman: that doesn't seem to be as embedded as one would like
[03:12] <XJman> Yeah, its not close to embedded.. It keeps jumping on top of everything
[03:16] <sakthian> hi
[03:16] <harpreet> ?
[03:16] <guido> hello
[03:16] <harpreet> hillao
[03:16] <phil66> I need Java for Yahoo games should I download from synaptic or from sun
[03:16] <sakthian> i want to do audio chat with my gmail account, which software will suite for me in ubuntu
[03:16] <harpreet> sun
[03:17] <harpreet> phil66: sun
[03:17] <phil66> harpreet ...Thanks
[03:17] <harpreet> phil66:  its a pain o configure it
[03:18] <lokemz> hi folks, i can't run skype as it throws the following error: skype: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv
[03:18] <lokemz> any idea?
[03:18] <guido> XJman: still around?
[03:18] <BluesKaj> phil66: I disagree, (k)ubuntu-restricted-extras will give you what you need.Just make sure all your repos are uncommented
[03:18] <harpreet> lokemz: wat version?
[03:18] <phil66> Harpreet..Yes that why I asked
[03:19] <lokemz> harpreet: 2.0.0.72-1
[03:19] <harpreet> phil66:  go for sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extra
[03:19] <harpreet> lokemz: when did u install skype/
[03:19] <sakthian> hi, i want to do audio chat with my gmail account, which software will suite for me in ubuntu
[03:20] <Dr_willis_> gmail does audio?
[03:20] <lokemz> harpreet: quite some time ago
[03:20] <lokemz> harpreet: was working b4.  desktop-effects-kde4 isn't working as well
[03:21] <harpreet> lokemz: is it 64 bit system?
[03:21] <lokemz> harpreet: nope.  32 bit.
[03:21] <harpreet> phil66: install sun java and with java alternatives make it default and change in konqueror the path to java..for sun
[03:22] <phil66> Running Firefox 3.01
[03:23] <harpreet> phil66: is it 64 bit?
[03:23] <sakthian> in windows i used gtalk for audio chat but in linux i dont no which software??? i tried lot in google search
[03:23] <guido> how can I get a fullscreen konsole?
[03:23] <phil66> harpreet..32 bit
[03:23] <harpreet> guido: press F7
[03:24] <harpreet> with function key
[03:24] <guido> harpreet: nothing happens
[03:24] <harpreet> contol, function, F7
[03:24] <harpreet> fn, F1 guido
[03:24] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+F7
[03:25] <guido> that's for switching between terminals
[03:25] <harpreet> BluesKaj: thing is i dont wanna press on mine and check haha
[03:25] <guido> I'm interested in making a konsole that's as big as the whole desktop
[03:25] <yurimxpxman> I'm trying to upgrade a system to 8.04, but it keeps getting stuck at "Generating locales.. en_AU.UTF-8". Any ideas?
[03:26] <BluesKaj> harpreet:  try ctrl+alt+F1 ,then ctrl+alt+F7
[03:26] <harpreet> guido:  it will work ctl alt F1,-F7
[03:26] <XJman> I'm still not having much luck with a embedded konsole
[03:26] <_2> guido konsoles menu allows switching to/form full screen mode
[03:26] <harpreet> BluesKaj: it will take me to console and i dont wanna loose Gui yet
[03:27] <Dr_willis_> Konsole --> ctrl-shift-F = fullscreen mode
[03:27] <guido> thanks :)
[03:27] <harpreet> phil66: make sure in browser the java is configured by . .  config:plugins after u hv installed sun
[03:28] <_2> harpreet i don't think you and guido are speaking the same lamguage.
[03:28] <phil66> harpreet...Will do thanks good night
[03:28] <guido> it was ctrl-shift-F what I was looking for, thanks :)
[03:28] <harpreet> phil66: goodnight
[03:28] <_2> dr_willis ah is that the default hotkey ?
[03:29] <sakthian>  in windows i used gtalk for audio chat but in linux i dont no which software??? i tried lot in google search
[03:31] <_2> !teamspeak
[03:31] <euphgeek> is anyone else using the fglrx driver?
[03:31] <_2> !p2p
[03:31] <_2> !aim
[03:32] <_2> i had no idea my lag was that high...    sorry guys.
[03:33] <euphgeek> anybody?
[03:33] <_2> euphgeek on a lappy yeah
[03:34] <sakthian> in pidgin i cant do audio chat
[03:34] <euphgeek> when I try to install it according to the wiki instructions, the insmod instruction gives me an error
[03:35] <_2> euphgeek what error ?
[03:35] <euphgeek> "Error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -l Operation not permitted"
[03:35] <_2> have to use sudo
[03:36] <euphgeek> I'm wondering if it's because I'm running the CD version, or if there's something else
[03:36] <euphgeek> I am using sudo
[03:37] <_2> conflicting module in use ?
[03:37] <euphgeek> how do I tell?
[03:38] <_2> lsmod | less    ???
[03:39] <euphgeek> I don't see anything conflicting
[03:40] <euphgeek> unless maybe ati_agp conflicts?
[03:44] <_2> euphgeek ok.  it seems that it's disabled on the live CD    so i'm out of thoughts there.
[03:45] <euphgeek> ok, I thought it might be because I'm using the live CD...I was just hoping I could test it before installing
[03:47] <_2>  [Lag 172]  yuch
[03:51] <goetzc> hi
[03:52] <goetzc> i will use amule-daemon, but with a gui, prefereible a kde (qt) gui. Someone knows about one gui for kde?
[03:52] <goetzc> exist something like this?
[03:52] <XJman> Anyone here run a file server
[03:53] <dr_Willis> samba, nfs, and ssh (for sshfs) yes. :)
[03:55] <soniker89> really
[03:55] <XJman> The pc that is my file server will hold all of my music, movies, and install files for games, OS's, and various different software. If I'm going to also use this pc as a desktop alongside my laptop would it be bad news to try and stream the media from it?
[03:56] <dr_Willis> depends on the load everything is putting on it. and the network connection/speeds
[03:56] <dr_Willis> and the power of the pc. :) cpu/ram/ect.
[03:57] <XJman> I've finally gotten everything with gigabit ethernet at the moment. Its a quad core AMD 4gb ram and will be running Gentoo
[03:57] <soniker89> where to install source code?
[03:57] <dr_Willis> XJman,  I imagine it will take quite a bit of load then./ :)
[03:58] <dr_Willis> what source code soniker89 ?
[03:58] <XJman> I just want to make sure. I'm getting mixed signals. My brother who is a bit more pc savy than myself says not a chance. I'm looking for more opinions. Thanks
[03:58] <dr_Willis> one normally  just has the source someplace, you then compile it..  the location of the source dosent matter much.
[03:58] <nuxil> soniker89, look in ./configure --help look at the prefix
[03:58] <soniker89> why
[03:58] <soniker89> ?
[03:58] <dr_Willis> XJman,  You aint streaming like 100000+ streams are you?
[03:59] <dr_Willis> soniker89,  you may want to be a bit more verbose and concise.
[03:59] <XJman> There are 4 pc's including the file server
[03:59] <soniker89> Im new en kubuntu
[03:59] <soniker89> ?
[03:59] <dr_Willis> XJman,  so 4 streams at the most? highdef? or just audio ?
[04:00] <XJman> I do have some hi-def video yes
[04:00] <dr_Willis> Try it and see I guess..
[04:00] <XJman> Worst that happens is a fail
[04:00] <dr_Willis> streaming is a ltitel different then 3 machines all trying to play files over nfs/samba also...
[04:01] <XJman> I mainly want to store the files there, then move them as I need to.
[04:01] <soniker89> well, I just compiled VIM In Desktop
[04:02] <soniker89> I have no idea how to lunch it?
[04:02] <dr_Willis> The #mythbuntu guys will proberly have a lot more experience in the speeds/limitations. of such setups.
[04:02] <dr_Willis> soniker89,  if you just did a 'make' it put the compiled binaries somewhere in  the source directory tree.
[04:02] <XJman> I'll try there, thanks
[04:03] <dr_Willis> once you do a 'make install' it copies binaries and support files to the system  location
[04:04] <soniker89> so that mean I can erace the folder in tha Desktop
[04:04] <soniker89> and it still working
[04:05] <nuxil> yes after you installed it. unless you spesifyed the install location to your desktop
[04:05] <soniker89> ok now it is install how to lunch it or make an icon luncher
[04:06] <nuxil> how would you normaly make a shortcut?
[04:07] <soniker89> i have no idea how to make shortcuts
[04:09] <nuxil> dude.. edit your menus or add a shortcut. if you cant do that,, then you should go read a bit
[04:09] <soniker89> nuxil where can read about it
[04:10] <nuxil> how about in kde docs
[04:10] <nuxil> or wiki..
[04:10] <soniker89> good advices!
[04:13] <msi> hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[04:30] <andare> i have a problem with my screen resilution, it's @ 640x840 and i would like it to be back @ where it was when i first installed Kubuntu, can anyone help me out???
[04:31] <andare>  HELLO IS ANYONE OUT THERE TO HELP ME OUT OR NOT???
[04:32] <andare>  WTF???
[04:32] <soniker89> im new too but someting
[04:33] <andare>  I COME HERE FOR SOME HELP & NO ONE ****'N ANSWER ME WTF
[04:33] <techdimension> andare :: try using this in konsole : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:34] <andare>  all i would like help with is to get my screen reslution back to where it was install of 640x840 i don't think that's too had to ask for, i think not
[04:34] <andare>  thedimension: what does that even do???
[04:34] <soniker89> or try system setting
[04:35] <techdimension> it walks you though configuring the xserver again, which is where your screen resolutions are set
[04:35] <andare>  i did & it couldn't even help me out cuz the highest screen reslution that it goes up to is 640x840
[04:35] <techdimension> andare also, this is not a paid support channel. People here volunteer and will help you if they can as they can. Patience is a virtue.
[04:36] <andare>  techdimension: i know that patience is a virtue but also i don't like it when ppl shit on me for no reason @ all
[04:36] <greeg> what does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  do ?
[04:37] <andare>  techdimension: i'm srry if i'm gett'n some ppl mad but i am a noob when it comes with linux that's why i'm try'n to stay away from windows and go to linux all the way
[04:39] <andare>  Techdimension:ppl have told me that i have to learn for myself well i don't know much about computer's besides on to use them & i really do like to use linux cuz i know that's it's a hell of alot more scure than windows is any day of the week
[04:39] <techdimension> andare : I was trying to give you a tip. In most cases within the linux community, impatience and hastiness is often ignored
[04:40] <andare>  Techdimension: i do understand that & i'm srry i'll do whatever i can on NOT piss'n ppl off from now, i promise.
[04:40] <nuxil> techdimension, you could not have said that better ;)
[04:40] <techdimension> thanks nuxil
[04:41] <techdimension> andare : back to the problem at hand...
[04:42] <techdimension> andare : if you use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it will walk you though configuring your keyboard, monitor, video card, and mouse. When it asks what resolutions to use, select the one that's right for your computer
[04:42] <andare>  techdimension: ok it's like this when i did start up my computer it went from regualer screen reslution to 640x840 how do i put it back to the same reslution that it was when i frist installed Kubuntu???
[04:43] <nuxil> andare, whats regular resolution?
[04:44] <andare>  i think it was like 1240 someth'n
[04:44] <nuxil> andare, if you got nvidia card. you can use nvidia settings, which would be the easyest way.
[04:45] <nuxil> and other metodes are to edit your xorg.conf file .. there are prob 10 ways to change the screen resolution,.
[04:45] <andare>  nuxil: i have tried that but the thing is that my computer was make for win2000 and my graphics card is nvidia tnt2
[04:46] <nuxil> you must run it with kdesu .. also check the module you are running. hopefylly its not vesa :p
[04:47] <techdimension> sorry, I have to go
[04:47] <techdimension> goodnight
[04:47] <nuxil> good night
[04:47] <andare>  nuxil: i'm a noob when it come's to linux so srry to say i don't know what ur talk'n about
[04:47] <nuxil> !wiki
[04:48] <nuxil> go there
[04:48] <andare>  which link the first or the second one?
[04:48] <nuxil> you can check our em both,
[04:48] <nuxil> *out *out
[04:49] <nuxil> err.. im tierd.
[04:49] <andare>  nuxil: it's ok, i'm tired too
[04:53] <andare>  nuxil: i hope this can help u out onto help'n me out it's about my graphics card 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)
[04:54] <asobi> using gutsy, how do i upgrade to firefox 3 full instead of beta 4?
[04:54] <andare>  nuxil: so do u think that u can help me & get my screen reslution back to here it was or will i be stuck with 640x840???
[05:16] <andare>  nuxil: hey, i fixed it with the link that u told me to go to, thnx alot  :-)
[05:16] <andare>  nuxil: i have got my screen reslution back from 640x840 to 1280x960
[05:17] <andare>  nuxil: :-D
[05:18] <nuxil> see. it was not that hard :)
[05:18] <andare>  nuxil: yeah i guess it was'n that hard  :-)
[05:19] <andare>  nuxil: i would like to know how to put avi file to a dvd so i can watch it onto my home dvd player's?
[05:20] <andare>  nuxil: i know that windows as lot's of programs for that but i do NOT want windows i WANT LINUX from now on  :-D
[05:20] <dlee> does anyone know if bluray players work on kubuntu?
[05:20] <nuxil> andare, you mean. convert the files ?
[05:20] <nuxil> andare, if you need to convert the files. you can loot into menucoder | tanscoder. if you just want o burn dvd, install k3b
[05:21] <andare>  nuxil: yes convert files
[05:21] <andare>  nuxil: i already have k3B
[05:22] <andare>  nuxil: where can i find menucoder | tanscoder so i can put them to a dvd?
[05:22] <nuxil> if you need to enable some repos to fetch (g)transcoder.. look at the wiki again :)
[05:23] <nuxil> andare,  multiverse or in universe.. use adept
[05:23] <andare>  nuxil: got it, aka already there ;-)
[05:25] <nuxil> andare, there is also dvdshrink but i dont know if it convert avi's
[05:25] <andare>  nuxil: yeah i have tried dvdshrink but i never really got it to work on linux
[05:25] <tomahasamoot> Is there a way to get Dolphin to open a directory in preview mode?  (just one directory... not all of them)
[05:26] <nuxil> andare, i just know about it.. never used it.
[05:26] <andare>  nuxil: it's kool
[05:27] <leo> helo everyone!... Is there a way I can get rid of Dolphin in JDE?
[05:27] <nuxil> tomahasamoot, hehe you use that crap :p  konqueror forever ;p
[05:27] <leo> opps sorry, KDE.
[05:28] <tomahasamoot> nuxil: does konqueror have split view?
[05:29] <nuxil> leo, yes you can use konqueror as default fm
[05:29] <nuxil> yes you can have split view in konqeror
[05:29] <nuxil> same as in krusader
[05:30] <leo> nuxil, where can i configure it., thx :)
[05:31] <nuxil> leo, well,, i installed konqueror and uninstalled dolphin..
[05:31] <nuxil> i uninstalled it bc i hate it.. but if you remove it,, be sure it dosent remove your kde,,
[05:32] <leo> nuxil.... :0 ok.. got it... thx again.
[05:33] <leo> in comparison I like KDE 3.5.9, with KDE4 do you think it's ok to upgrade, does it really have big advantage.
[05:33] <nuxil> leo, maybe you can change it in systemsetting.. i never checked there because i wanted it gone forever, its one of the worst things i have had installed on my pc ;p
[05:34] <leo> nuxil, thx..
[05:44] <BooVeMan> leo: kde4 as in 4.0.x is a once try and back to kde3 - haven't tried 4.1 though
[05:46] <tomahasamoot> nuxil: Okay, I've poked around with Konqueror, and I see your point... it'll take awhile to get used to, tho
[05:47] <tomahasamoot> nuxil: how do I set it to be the default file manager?
[05:48] <nuxil> tomahasamoot, i can not say.. first thing i did after installing kubuntu was to remove dolphin,. and installed konqueror instaed,,
[05:48] <nuxil> tomahasamoot, look in system settings.
[05:50] <tomahasamoot> nuxil: I don't see it in System Settings
[05:50] <Guest79189> hi
[05:53] <nuxil> tomahasamoot, not sure then.. look in dolphin settings or konqueror settings..
[05:54] <BooVeMan> tomahasamoot: I think its in update-alternatives --config <something>
[05:58] <Jucato> !d3lphin | tomahasamoot
[06:01] <tomahasamoot> Jucato: thanks
[06:01] <tomahasamoot> Jucato: why was it changed to Dolphin?
[06:02] <Jucato> tomahasamoot: in preparation for KDE 4. but the version of Dolphin there is 100 times better than the Dolphin in KDE 3
[06:02] <BooVeMan> tomahasamoot: simpler - more user freindly for beginners
[06:02]  * Jucato is *not* exaggerating that
[06:03] <Jucato> BooVeMan: that's the rationale for Dolphin itself. but the reason for using an unmaintained version of Dolphin for KDE 3 (D3lphin) was the one I gave above :)
[06:03] <Jucato> it was supposed to help "prepare" Kubuntu users to a new file manager (but it really doesn't achieve that in the long run...)
[06:04] <tomahasamoot> Jucato: it was set to Dolphin KDE4, but the about says it's 3.5.9
[06:06] <tomahasamoot> Jucato: I'm guessing that it will be better than the over hyped Konq. tho.  Guess I'll have to wait to see it.  Any idea when KDE4 will be usable?  The "release" is an alpha
[06:06] <BooVeMan> Jucato: I use both of them alongside - no real preference - mounting and unmounting seems to be more reliable in dolphin
[06:07] <Jucato> tomahasamoot: if you were using Dolphin (KDE 4), then there's an option in Settings -> View Modes to "Remember view properties for each folder". It would remember your view settings for that particular folder you want. and it would leave the others as long as you don't touch their view settings
[06:07] <tomahasamoot> Jucato: thanks :-)
[06:08] <BooVeMan> tomahasamoot: I recon that for intrepid there will be a kde4.1 verson included - before that I wouldn't recommend kde 4 pro productive worrk
[06:09]  * Jucato has been using 4.1 since march or april...
[06:10] <Jucato> tomahasamoot: "when KDE will be usable?" <-- that entirely depends on what you consider to be "usable". You'll discover soon enough that "usable" is as subjective as "beautiful"
[06:11] <tomahasamoot> BooVeMan: thanks :-)  I wish they'd have waited till it was stable before releasing it tho, as they loose crediblity...
[06:12] <Jucato> tomahasamoot: KDE doesn't make releases like Windows (single "stable" "complete" release, and just service packs in between)
[06:12] <Jucato> the closest analogy to a release system would be Mac OS X. (10.0 sucked, 10.1 sucked less, 10.2 started getting better, etc etc)
[06:13] <Jucato> you might want to read http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080710131440951
[06:14] <Jucato> (btw, it *is* "stable"... but strangely enough, people's definition of "stable" seems to be synonymous to "feature complete" or "absolutely finished")
[06:14] <BooVeMan> tomahasamoot: I don't think it wasn't that unstable - just not finished and polished
[06:14]  * BooVeMan *grumbel* Jucato beat me - again
[06:14] <Jucato> :P
[06:14] <Jucato> and I typed more than you :P
[06:15] <BooVeMan> Jucato: native english speaker?
[06:15] <Jucato> ESL
[06:15] <Jucato> English as Second Language :)
[06:15] <tomahasamoot> to me, "stable" means that the included features work, not that it has every feature you want ('cause you'll aways want more)
[06:16] <Jucato> tomahasamoot: see? that's not the true meaning of "stable". :)
[06:16] <BooVeMan> tomahasamoot: the features included in kde4.0 worked - there weren't may though
[06:16] <Jucato> "stable" means "does what it's supposed or advertised to do with no or little serious bugs or crashes
[06:17] <Jucato> and 4.0 was *never* advertised to have all the promised features of KDE 4
[06:17] <BooVeMan> Jucato: ESL - as well - but living in a spanish speaking country (STL)
[06:17] <tomahasamoot> they didn't work.  It was a buggy mess.
[06:20] <tomahasamoot> I couldn't even log in half the time
[06:20]  * Jucato hasn't had stability issues with 4.0.. only feature issues
[06:21] <nuxil> i feel like a crash test dummy when i run kde4
[06:21]  * BooVeMan only tested kde4 in a vm...
[06:22] <Jucato> nuxil: I hope you weren't running the pre-release versions of 4.1, because they are, well, pre-release
[06:22] <Jucato> oh, and there's a #kubuntu-kde4 channel for KDE 4 help
[06:23] <nuxil> Jucato, i got time to wait some year(s) on kde4.. i got what i need and want in kde3
[06:25] <nuxil> what i mean,, i can wait for kde4 to become more useble
[06:26] <DarkriftX> how do i install java via apt? i cant figure out the name of the package
[06:26] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-bin
[06:26] <DarkriftX> No suitable Java Virtual Machine could be found on your system.
[06:26] <DarkriftX> The version of the JVM must be at least 1.6.
[06:26] <DarkriftX> ahhh, ty
[06:27] <DarkriftX> already the newest version :S
[06:27] <DarkriftX> i need java vm
[06:27]  * DarkriftX doesnt know hte difference :S
[06:28] <DarkriftX> !info java virtual machine
[06:28] <DarkriftX> !info java-virtual-machine
[06:28] <Jucato> that's it already. run "sudo update-alternatives ---config java" and choose the sun version
[06:29] <tomahasamoot> Jucato: Okay, I see the point on Groklaw, about it being a Devolper release... but the they should have called it that.  KDE 4.0 SDK *** Not For End Users ***
[06:30] <Jucato> tomahasamoot: they did (except the SDK part)
[06:30] <Jucato> people just don't like to listen...
[06:34] <DarkriftX> No suitable Java Virtual Machine could be found on your system. The version of the JVM must be at least 1.6. Please define INSTALL4J_JAVA_HOME to point to a suitable JVM.
[06:34] <DarkriftX> You can also try to delete the JVM cache file /home/darkrift/.install4j
[06:34] <tomahasamoot> Jucato: you may be right... I was getting it second hand tho Kubuntu, and they may have dropped the ball.  But they've corrected it now.
[06:34] <DarkriftX> anyone got any ideas?
[06:35] <DarkriftX> ive done what 4 ubuntu threads said and installed some other crap, didnt work, tried your idea Jucato, still says same thing
[06:35] <nuxil> !java-vm
[06:35] <DarkriftX> !info jvm
[06:40] <minze> goodmorning
[06:43] <Guest58398> hi
[06:43] <Guest58398> i have a question
[06:44] <Guest58398> anyone there?
[06:45] <emilsedgh> !ask | Guest58398
[06:45] <Guest58398> sorry, my first time here
[06:46] <Guest58398> i am trying to adjust the brightness on kubuntu but i can't seem to do so. I am using a sony vaio vgn-nr110e edition.
[06:47] <emilsedgh> hm, Guest58398, do you have guidance-power-manager running? the green battery charge monitor in your status bar? try it there
[06:48] <Guest58398> nope
[06:48] <Guest58398> there is no option to change the brightness
[06:48] <rudyerazo> hola
[06:49] <Guest58398> i have suspend, hibernate, and CPU policy
[06:49] <Guest58398> and sorry because I am sort of a newbie. Installed Kubuntu today
[06:50] <rudyerazo> hola
[06:50] <rudyerazo> hola
[06:50] <rudyerazo> hola
[06:50] <rudyerazo> hola
[06:50] <Guest58398> actually, i do have the change brightness option, but it doesn't work
[06:50] <Guest58398> hi rudyerazo
[06:51] <emilsedgh> Guest58398: then i dont know, im sorry :)
[06:51] <emilsedgh> !hi rudyerazo
[06:51] <emilsedgh> !hi | rudyerazo
[06:51] <Guest58398> how come i am know as guest?
[06:52] <emilsedgh> Guest58398: change your nickname with typing /nick newnickname
[06:52] <emilsedgh> while newnickname is the nickname you want :)
[06:52] <KubuntuY> yay
[06:52] <KubuntuY> i don't need to register it or anything right?
[06:52] <rudyerazo> alguien habla español
[06:53] <KubuntuY> un poco
[06:53] <emilsedgh> KubuntuY: if you want to send private messages, you need to register
[06:53] <emilsedgh> !es | rudyerazo
[06:53] <KubuntuY> oh ok. thank you all for helping me
[06:53] <KubuntuY> bye bye
[06:53] <emilsedgh> bye KubuntuY
[07:04] <tomahasamoot> how do I take a desktop snapshot in kde3.5?
[07:04] <tomahasamoot> never mind, I've got it....
[07:05] <tomahasamoot> sorry for the stupid question :-P
[07:05] <nuxil> press printscreen|sys rq ?
[07:15] <chairman> HELP
[07:33] <se7en_> sombody know what i have done wrong ... i installed apache2 and configured it ... now i would like to passwd protect the side so i setup the .htaccsess file in /var/www/ and didhtpasswd -c .htpasswd guest ... but i can still get on the site without any passwd
[08:29] <icelab> hi there
[08:30] <icelab> the question is:
[08:30] <icelab> i'm looking for a program or application that let me see if the connection is on?
[08:32] <word> icelab: what kind of connection?
[08:32] <icelab> soory my internet connection is on
[08:32] <word> icelab: knetworkmanager
[08:33] <word> icelab: it has a system tray icon that changes if it's disconnected or connected
[08:33] <icelab> thanks a lot
[08:33] <word> icelab: :)
[08:33] <icelab>  have you tried?
[08:33] <word> icelab: yah, i have it right now
[08:33] <icelab> ok
[08:34] <word> it doesn't show if your internet connection is up though :-/
[08:34] <word> but that's kind of impossible....
[08:35] <word> sorry i kinda misinterpreted what you meant by internet connection..somehow lol ><
[08:35] <word> knetworkmanager tells you if you can connect to your network, not if that network connects to the internet
[08:36] <word> icelab: easiest thing to do for internet is ping google.com :-/
[08:37] <icelab> ok but i looking for something like "other s.o." you know what i mean
[08:39] <icelab> something like two little computer on a tray
[08:39] <word> icelab: hmm... gimme a sec to google it..
[08:40] <Jucato> !info knemo
[08:42] <word> icelab: knetstats look EXACTLY like the 2 monitors thing you're talking about
[08:42] <word> 2 computers*
[08:42] <word> oh, and so does knemo lol ;p
[08:43] <word> icelab: so you'll have to see which does what you want, not sure if they do internet :-/
[08:46] <ifroog> Helllo
[08:46] <ifroog> I get an error "Bad length in compmap"
[08:46] <ifroog> xorg when i startx
[08:50] <word> ifroog: does it start anyway? :-/
[08:59] <icelab> sorry word the line died
[08:59] <word> icelab: heh, did one of the programs show it?
[09:00] <icelab> what kind of program?
[09:01] <tomahasamoot> what's the command to mount an aritrary usb mass storage device?
[09:01] <icelab> ahhh no...:-)
[09:02] <word> icelab: lol, knemo knetstats are two that might do it :-/
[09:03] <icelab> i will hope
[09:04] <icelab> see you
[09:08] <rohan> how do i stop those irritating dolphin "AddAsPodcast" message when browsing html files?
[09:09] <rohan> i am using kubuntu 8.04
[09:14] <guido_> I installed kpersonalizer and now when I click on the kmenu to turn off the computer the only option I get is to close the session. any thoughts on how to fix this?
[09:16] <pag> guido_, do you use KDM or something else?
[09:16] <guido_> kdm
[09:22] <Agent_bob> guido_ kcontrol has a section on that but don't ask me what it's called
[09:22] <Agent_bob> guido_ i think the short way to get there is to right click K and configure
[09:23] <carib909> My kubuntu 8.04 server is broken. I cannot browse hard drives, I cannot mount other hard drives, I can use apt-get Please look at  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30509/
[09:23] <Agent_bob> Jucato  you still up ?
[09:23] <guido_> Agent_bob: ok, I'll check it out, thanks
[09:23] <Jucato> Agent_bob: I am, but on my way out
[09:24] <guido_> how do I give myself read/write access to '/dev/net/tun'?
[09:24] <Jucato> I can spare a minute
[09:24] <carib909> I cannot use apt-get
[09:25] <carib909> Jucato can you look at that pastebin and help me solve this issue please?
[09:25] <Agent_bob> carib909 you broke your sudoers     < ummmm ! >    i'm gonna tell.
[09:25] <carib909> Thanks bob... how do I fix?
[09:25] <Agent_bob> carib909 do you have a root shell ?
[09:25] <carib909> I do
[09:26] <Agent_bob> visudo    and fix it
[09:26] <Agent_bob> you can pastebin the content of /etc/sudoers if you want,  i might be able to see what's awax'd
[09:26] <carib909> I am not sure I have vi and not sure how to fix
[09:26] <Agent_bob> no
[09:26] <Agent_bob> visudo
[09:27] <Agent_bob> if you have sudo you have visudo
[09:27] <Agent_bob> just try it in the root shell
[09:28]  * Agent_bob mentions a shortcut at trouble shooting.   open visudo and close it.   it will tell you where the "first" error is.
[09:28] <carib909> Won't let me get root shell
[09:28] <Agent_bob> i asked if you had one     !
 carib909 do you have a root shell ? <<< not can you get....   ><carib909> I do  <<< jyou must not have.
[09:29] <carib909> sudo su gives http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30512/
[09:29] <administrator_> who
[09:30] <administrator_> wat are you doing ?
[09:30] <administrator_> cena
[09:30] <carib909> Sorry, I thought I had root shell, but I don't
[09:30] <Agent_bob> carib909 you'll have to get into root to fix it.
[09:30] <pag> carib909, yup. of course it does – you are not able to use sudo at all. 'su' would work on most distros, but not on *buntu :(
[09:30] <Agent_bob> carib909 that probably means a reboot.
[09:31] <pag> carib909, boot your computer and login into recovery mode – that'll give you root-acces
[09:31] <carib909> What do I do when I reboot?
[09:31] <carib909> After I gt root access?
[09:31] <pag> carib909, 'visudo' and look for errors
[09:31] <Agent_bob> use visudo and fix your mistakes...
[09:31] <Agent_bob> pag did you catch my HINT ^
[09:32]  * Agent_bob mentions a shortcut at trouble shooting.   open visudo and close it.   it will tell you where the "first" error is.
[09:32] <Agent_bob> that hint   ^
[09:32] <carib909> LOL I don't know what the errors are or what the lines should be. Can you paste yours for me please?
[09:32] <administrator_> today just traded winXP
[09:32] <Agent_bob> carib909 no i can't paste mine.  and you wouldn't want it anyeay.
[09:33] <guido_> how do I give myself read/write access to '/dev/net/tun'?
[09:33] <administrator_> 有没国内的
[09:33] <administrator_> 会说中文的 有没
[09:33] <Agent_bob> guido_ either own it or mod it.
[09:33] <administrator_> 请出来报道下 谢谢了
[09:33] <administrator_> 有事情请教
[09:33] <carib909> I will try but I am lost here, not sure what to look for.
[09:34] <guido_> Agent_bob: how do I mod it?
[09:34] <administrator_> you zhong guo de mei?
[09:34] <carib909> brb
[09:34] <pag> Agent_bob, I read that, but I wasn't paying much attention – sorry :-)
[09:34] <administrator_> you zhong guo de mei
[09:34] <Agent_bob> guido_   sudo chwon $USER /dev/net/tun   <<<< own...   sudo chmod 666 /dev/net/tun    <<< mod
[09:35] <guido_> Agent_bob: what would be the downside of owning it?
[09:35] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <Agent_bob> guido_ it's in ram so at reboot it will reset anyway.    if you want a lasting change.     ls -l /dev/net/tun   see what  group it's in and add your self to that group
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <pag> administrator_, English only, please.
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <administrator_> 说国语的朋友出来下
[09:36] <guido_> Agent_bob: I'm sorry, but how do I add myself there?
[09:37] <pag> guido_, adduser user group
[09:37] <Agent_bob> kuser
[09:37] <Agent_bob>    ^ the gui way
[09:37]  * Agent_bob just edits /etc/group
[09:38] <administrator_> you hui zhong wen de pengyou mei
[09:38] <administrator_> wo yingyu buhao
[09:38] <Hoora> sorry my chinese is bad ;)
[09:39] <Agent_bob> heh  but you can end up like carib909.   editing things in /etc   ;/
[09:39] <guido_> something's wrong.. when I do alt+F2 I don't get the prompt
[09:39] <Agent_bob> guido_ you have compiz running ?
[09:39] <guido_> yes
[09:39] <Agent_bob> there ya go
[09:39] <guido_> ?
[09:39] <Agent_bob> or should i say.  that's what's wrong
[09:40] <guido_> I switched back to kwin and still no prompt when I do alt+F2
[09:41] <Agent_bob> guido_ been messing with khotkeys ?
[09:41] <Agent_bob> crashed kicker ?
[09:42] <Agent_bob> kicker is the app that alt+f2 signals    or kicker traps the alt+f2   how ever you say it.
[09:42] <guido_> I installed keytouch yesterday afternoon
[09:42] <Agent_bob> that might do it.
[09:43] <Agent_bob> ok back to updates
[09:43] <administrator_> god looked like nobody to be possible to help me:O-O
[09:43] <Agent_bob> good luck to your pinguin.
[09:44] <guido_> ahh, there I am then...
[09:44] <guido_> fixed that
[09:44] <Agent_bob> administrator_ nobody has understood you    try a channel you can speak the language in.
[09:45] <Agent_bob> !ch
[09:45] <Agent_bob> !jp
[09:45] <Agent_bob> !ru
[09:45] <nuxil> lol
[09:45] <Agent_bob> !ti
[09:46] <guido_> Agent_bob: what would be /dev/net/tun's group?
[09:46] <Agent_bob> administrator_ no i don't speak it.
[09:46] <nuxil> administrator_, no one can help you unless you tell us your problem
[09:47] <Agent_bob> !cn
[09:47] <Agent_bob> there   ^
[10:03] <Hoora> anyone, a sfv checker for kubuntu?
[10:05] <Hoora> installing cfv, let's see if it will do tha thing...
[10:06] <guido_> anyone know how can I give a user permission to shutdown the computer?
[10:08] <nuxil> guido_, what you mean? in kdm all users can turn off the pc.
[10:08] <Hoora> ok, cfv did the thing... having a little monologue here ;)
[10:08] <nuxil> guido_, are you talking remote ?
[10:08] <carib909> Anyone know how to edit dudoers file from visudo?
[10:08] <carib909> sudoers
[10:08] <guido_> nuxil: for some reason my only user has lost that ability
[10:09] <nuxil> carib909, man sudoers
[10:09] <Agent_bob> guido_ normally only root has permission to shut down or reboot    note that [g,k,x]dm run as root
[10:09] <guido_> when I try to shutdown from the kmenu I only get the option to close session
[10:10] <carib909> I am in root. I don't know vi at all. Type man sudoers?
[10:10]  * Agent_bob has edited the dodoers file a time or two.    but thinks it futile to try to explain it.      "run the command   sudoers    and exit.   then read the error message it posts, and edit the line it tells you too..."
[10:10] <nuxil> carib909, in konsole . type man sudoers
[10:11] <Agent_bob> err  command   visudo
[10:11] <guido_> brb, I'm gonna see if it worked
[10:12] <Agent_bob> dodoers    :)))    too funny
[10:12] <carib909> no access to root shell so I had to reboot into recovery and go to root shell. I typed man sudoers and got a description of what sudoers file contains
[10:13] <nuxil> read it
[10:14]  * Agent_bob has edited the dodoers file a time or two.    but thinks it futile to try to explain it.      "run the command   visudo    and exit.   then read the error message it posts, and edit the line it tells you too..."     at the expense of repeting me'self
[10:15] <Agent_bob> the entire purpose of "visudo" is to syntax test the file before it lets you quit...
[10:17] <nuxil> Agent_bob, If all you want is . not to type password after sudo all the time,, i think you put something like YourUser ALL = (ALL) ALL
[10:19] <Agent_bob> nuxil no.
[10:19] <Agent_bob> nuxil you are probably looking for the   NOPASSWD  key word
[10:20] <Agent_bob> ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[10:20] <nuxil> yes ,, something like that ;)
[10:20] <Agent_bob>   ^ makes root jr  out of everyone.
[10:21] <Agent_bob> of course that makes a linux box about as secure as a windows box too
[10:21] <Agent_bob> :)))
[10:21] <nuxil> would %* ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL be all gouped then ?
[10:22] <nuxil> *groups
[10:22] <Agent_bob> note*  i did say "about"  not "entirely"
[10:22] <Agent_bob> nuxil yes   same thing in a different language
[10:23] <Agent_bob> ALL == ALL == .*
[10:24] <simi> hi i compiled a kernel using a howto from a book(using debian kernel tools), the problem is that i am missing a initr image , i do not know how to create a corect image for debian systems
[10:24] <nuxil> simi, you dont need it
[10:25] <simi> nuxil: i need it, thx anyway found answer in 3ubuntu
[10:25] <nuxil> simi, copy you bzImage to /boot/yourlinuz and cp System.map /boot then edit your grub config
[10:26] <Agent_bob> simi if you want to use an initramfs/initrd image   you run the respective command     mkinitr*  <new_imagefile> <version>
[10:26] <nuxil> simi, why do you need it ?
[10:26] <Agent_bob> nuxil he may not have drivers builtin to support booting without an initramfs imeag
[10:27] <simi> nuxil: because i get a kernel panic, can't mount root partition
[10:28] <simi> something like that
[10:28] <carib909> Ok agent bob I typed visudo and I get this message http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30518/  cannot quit. When I type quit , a recording message pops up below.
[10:28] <Agent_bob> simi  note* unless you are building a portable kernel. i fine it faster and easier to build in the needed drivers and not use an initramfs
[10:28] <nuxil> simi, thats cos you forgot some modules or to include some sata or ide drivers
[10:30] <simi> nuxil:  i tried many configuration that do not worked, and this time i just added things and remove nothing to the standard config, i will create that image with a command
[10:30] <nuxil> simi, also check your grub, if it used uuid, it might have changed. or the grub is trying to use sdX instead of hdX..
[10:32] <Agent_bob> grub doesn't use block addressing nuxil
[10:32] <Agent_bob> (hd0) is (hd0)
[10:32] <nuxil> simi, forexample.. kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-386 root=UUID=b35f7a5f-c32a-4f63-b2f5-7f7d9599132e ro quiet splash works fine,, but if i use the same uuid on my custom kernel. it wount boot,
[10:33] <Agent_bob> carib909 so you forced an exit of visudo     so rm the tmp file and try again.
[10:33] <carib909> how do you exit ?
[10:33] <simi> nuxil: found this command update-initramfs but i must read more about it, all the other kernels have an initrd image
[10:34] <Agent_bob> carib909 it kinda depends on what editor your default editor is
[10:34] <carib909> cntrl z is only cmd that seems to work
[10:34] <carib909> I am in visudo
[10:34] <nuxil> simi, you are just making it harder by making a iniramfs.
[10:34] <Agent_bob> ctrl+z doesnt even exit
[10:35] <Agent_bob> carib909 yes   visudo  no what editor is it ?
[10:35] <carib909> u said type visudo and exit, how do I exit?
[10:35] <nuxil> hehe
[10:35] <Agent_bob> is it nano vim emacs me -e  ????
[10:35] <Agent_bob> pico ?
[10:35] <carib909> How do I become aware of what editor it is?
[10:35] <Agent_bob> that bad huh ?
[10:36] <nuxil> good god
[10:36] <Agent_bob> look at the bottom line and tell me what you see
[10:36] <simi> nuxil: but what can i do, i compiled the scsi into kernel and ext3
[10:36] <Agent_bob> also look at the top line and see if it gives a clue as to which editor it might be
[10:37] <Agent_bob> simi partition support   "assuming you use partitions"
[10:37] <Agent_bob> simi and also   is it a true scsi interface or are you emulating
[10:38] <carib909> Bottom line says # Members of the Admin group may gain root privileges ^M %Admin ALL=(ALL) ALL^M
[10:38] <simi> Agent_bob: i have scsi drive on my laptop
[10:39] <simi> and the default kernels have initrd images
[10:39] <Agent_bob> carib909 you are looking at the bottom line of the screen and not the bottom line of the file    correct ?
[10:39] <Agent_bob> simi your kernel is not default
[10:39] <simi> How can i get the kernel name , at the compiled kernel, is the name of the deb?
[10:40] <carib909> I typed visudo and i got a bunch of text. I cannot exit? I don't know what editor it is. What does visudo do?
[10:40] <Agent_bob> sorry that didn't proccess correctly ?     do what simi ?
[10:40] <nuxil> simi, xconfig -> Device Drivers -> ATA | SCSI |Seriel ATA  look in there,, and tell us what modules you have selected
[10:40] <simi> Agent_bob:  i have other 2 kernels made by ubuntu and this one i made, in /boot i have only for ubuntu made initrd images, my kernel does not have that image
[10:40] <Agent_bob> carib909 is the bottom line        :
[10:40] <Agent_bob>  ???
[10:40] <carib909> The bottm line is what I just posted
[10:41] <carib909>  Bottom line says # Members of the Admin group may gain root privileges ^M %Admin ALL=(ALL) ALL^M
[10:41] <Agent_bob> simi yeah and ?   you don't need an initramfs   "if"  you have all the nesseccary drivers compiled into the kernel  "not as modules"
[10:42] <Agent_bob> carib909 ok.     does the top line say anything useful ?
[10:42] <carib909> top line says # /etc/sudoers^M
[10:42] <Agent_bob> i have no idea what editor he is using.   it's not vi/vim   it's not nano/pico    the bottom line would reviel those four
[10:43] <Agent_bob> carib909 press   f1
[10:43] <Agent_bob> does it five a help screen ?
[10:43] <carib909> 2nd line says # This file must be edited with the 'visudo' command as root ^M
[10:44] <ailing> !ati
[10:44]  * Jucato suggests posting a screenshot if he can....
[10:44] <nuxil> sudo
[10:45] <Agent_bob> that's inside the file it's self.    so far everything you have mentioned is within the sudoers file.     and i don't recall any editor that displays nothing but what you are editing
[10:45] <carib909> after F1   For VIM 6.4 Last change:2004 Aug 29
[10:45] <carib909> The Vim help file is not installed on this Debian GNU/Linux System
[10:46] <Agent_bob> carib909 then you must have lied   about the bottom line      "probably not on purpose tho"    anyway   press  the [ins]  key to enter insert mode
[10:46] <Jucato> Agent_bob: I think he interpreted your "bottom line" as the "bottom line *of the text*"
[10:47] <Agent_bob> you can then use the dirrectional keys to move and the normal keys to edit
[10:47] <nuxil> give him kate to edit in :p
[10:47] <Agent_bob> Jucato i was very specific earlier
[10:47] <carib909> How do I get out of this Help screen?
[10:48] <Agent_bob> nuxil but it wont syntax test and that's what he needs the most
[10:48] <carib909> Lied? I told you exactly what you asked me to tell you????
[10:48] <Agent_bob> you press   [esc]   then   :
[10:49] <carib909> ok pressed INS
[10:50] <Agent_bob> and you can edit/ fix your mistake.   then    [esc] :wq!
[10:51] <carib909> I have no clue what a mistake is or how to eidt it. What am I looking for?
[10:51] <Agent_bob> if there are more mistakes   it will loop  and give you the opertunity to fix them.
[10:51] <Agent_bob> carib909 bad syntax.
[10:51] <Agent_bob> carib909 if you don't know which line     [esc] :wq!
[10:51] <Agent_bob> and it will tell you.
[10:52] <carib909> I am green at this! I don't know good from bad syntax. I don't see anything to edit.
[10:52] <Agent_bob> i know.   just use the command i gave   and read what it says
[10:52] <Agent_bob>  [esc] :wq!
[10:52] <Agent_bob> [esc] means press the escape key
[10:54] <carib909> wq1 BRINGS ME BACK TO THE SCREEN WITH # /ETC/SUDOERS
[10:54] <carib909> oops sorry for shouting there
[10:54] <Agent_bob> show me the exact command you used to edit the file please
[10:55] <carib909> visudo
[10:55] <Agent_bob> and  when you exited it didn't say any syntax error ?
[10:55] <carib909> I cannot exit! I can press cntrl Z and it exists...
[10:56] <carib909> I don't know another way to exit.
[10:56] <ailing> sometimes synaptic hangs at the end of upgrading/installing packages -- have anyone else experienced this?
[10:56] <Agent_bob> my lord.     DON'T BACK GROUND THE EDITOR.
[10:56] <Agent_bob>  type    fg
[10:56] <Agent_bob> to resume.
[10:57] <carib909> typing fg causes a beep. nothing types or happens.
[10:57] <nuxil> ailing, adept  aswell ?
[10:57] <Agent_bob> carib909 listen.   control Z   does NOT exit.   it puts the process in the background   and lets you use the shell    but the editor is still running in the backgroud
[10:58] <ailing> nuxil: adept just plain crashes (probably a bad repo package in intrepid), however apt-get in console works fine
[10:58] <carib909> whtat iuok I am still at the screen. I did not cntrl z this time... I do not know how to exit. any clues?
[10:58] <Agent_bob> carib909    [esc] :wq!
[10:59] <Agent_bob> type that
[10:59] <carib909> does nothing but cause a beep
[10:59] <Agent_bob> i'll repete   [esc]  means press the excape key.
[10:59] <carib909> ok now I am out with syntax errors
[11:00] <carib909> syntax in line 10,11,12,15,17,19,21,22,24,25
[11:00] <Agent_bob> look close at what line  and go back in like it sujests
[11:01] <Agent_bob> ah  bad mark up   most likely
[11:01] <carib909> "What now" options are Edit sudoers file again exit W/O saving changes Quit and save changes to sudoers file   (DANGER)
[11:01] <Agent_bob> may i sujest you go to each line end   and delete then hit enter
[11:01] <Agent_bob> edit   by all means
[11:02] <carib909> Please guide me exactly how to do that.
[11:02] <carib909> What now?
[11:02] <Agent_bob> are you back in the editor ?
[11:02] <carib909> I selected e to edit file again
[11:03] <Agent_bob> ok   [ins]
[11:03] <carib909>  press enter or type a command to continue
[11:03] <carib909> What command edits the file?
[11:04] <nuxil> ailing, my adept is slow as a turtle sometimes. does it complain about some paks ? you can try running sudo dpkg --configure -a to see if it fixes issues,, also try a apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to see if it helps.
[11:04] <engineer> carib909 nano?
[11:04] <carib909> I hit INS
[11:04] <engineer> nuxil sudo aptitude install synaptic
[11:04] <Agent_bob> engineer  vim
[11:04] <engineer> sorry, i hate vim
[11:05] <Agent_bob> carib909 move down to line 10
[11:05] <Agent_bob> the dirrectional arrows keys
[11:05] <Agent_bob> hit  [end]
[11:06] <carib909> Del key not deleting. There are some blank lines I suppose I need to delete?
[11:06] <engineer> in nano, ctrl+k
[11:06] <Agent_bob> then hit  [del]         #note if it removes the last char from the line type it back and hit  [enter]
[11:06] <engineer> to delete lines
[11:07] <Agent_bob> you need to remove the linux markup from the file     i wonder if i couldn't do that externally.....
[11:07] <ailing> nuxil: tried all that -- adept crashes on launch actually, so i won´t know if it´s slow
[11:08] <engineer> juse use: kdesu kate <filename>
[11:08] <Agent_bob> to delete a whole line you can  use command mode   [esc] :d[enter]
[11:08] <engineer> nuxil consider using synaptic
[11:08] <engineer> ailing same to you
[11:08] <Agent_bob> engineer who was that for ?
[11:08] <nuxil> engineer, no not really. i manage with apt and adept
[11:09] <Agent_bob> " <engineer> juse use: kdesu kate <filename> "  ???
[11:09] <engineer> to edit the file?
[11:09] <nuxil> sudoers
[11:09] <engineer> much easier
[11:09] <engineer> graphically
[11:09] <Agent_bob> engeneer what file ?
[11:09] <engineer> (11:03:58) (carib909) What command edits the file?
[11:10] <ailing> engineer: actually i was just talking about a possible bug in synaptic, where at the end of installing/upgrading a package, it just hangs
[11:10] <Agent_bob> engineer so you are advising him to use kdesu which cant work    and kate on the sudoers file ?
[11:10] <engineer> never experienced that
[11:10] <engineer> thats the way you can edit a root file graphically
[11:10] <engineer> why
[11:11] <engineer> for me synaptic has always been more stable than adept
[11:11] <carib909> I deleted the ^M at the end and cannot seem to add it back
[11:11] <Agent_bob> engineer  if you can walk him through that.  i will most gladly be silent and learn something.
[11:11] <Jucato> engineer: the sudoers file should not be edited manually unless you really really know what you're doing
[11:11] <engineer> in fact, the thing you just said happened to me in adept
[11:11] <ailing> engineer: i wish i knew why :)
[11:11] <Jucato> by "manually" I mean "editor <file>"
[11:11] <Agent_bob> carib909 good.  you don't want it back.
[11:11] <simi> I created the initrd image and the kernel boot up, but the network card is not working inspite i do not remove any module
[11:12] <Agent_bob> carib909 that is the problem to begin with.
[11:12] <Jucato> visudo is the recommended way to edit the sudoers file
[11:12] <engineer> i didn't know it was that file, sorry :)
[11:12] <carib909> I did what you said, del and if it removes it add it back. I cannot add back THAT ^M
[11:13] <Agent_bob> Jucato any clue why it is using vim tho ?
[11:13] <Agent_bob> Jucato isn't nano still default ?
[11:13] <Jucato> Agent_bob: it should be afaik
[11:13] <simi> where i can find the text that scroles up when booting? the /var/log/boot is empty? i must enable liging? i want to see what is started and what i can remove, time stamp would be nice
[11:14] <Agent_bob> carib909 the   ^M   is the carrage return from ms dos   you don't want them in that file at all.   get rid of every one of them
[11:14] <carib909> ok
[11:15] <nuxil> simi dmesg
[11:15] <Agent_bob> i mentioned that that many lines with syntax errors was provavly "bad markup"
[11:16] <Agent_bob> markup is a referance to the line end chars of a given operating system
[11:16] <Agent_bob> or other intrepted chars within a text file
[11:16] <carib909> Ok I deleted all carriage returns. I have some blank lines I cannot delte. How do I delete blank lines and then how to exit to save changes?
[11:17] <Agent_bob> carib909   [esc] :wq!
[11:18] <Agent_bob> carib909 any more errors ?\
[11:18] <carib909> ok done but blank lines still there no errors showing
[11:18] <ailing> brb - testing if the ati binary driver works...
[11:18] <Agent_bob> carib909   sudo echo boo
[11:19] <Agent_bob> carib909   issue that command     "assuming you have cleanly exited from vim now.
[11:19] <carib909> it typed boo
[11:19] <Agent_bob> carib909 you have fixed it.  reboot
[11:19] <carib909> WOW! Whew! here we go Thanks a million. I hope it works
[11:20] <Agent_bob> now.  back to what i was doing.      if he has more problems "other that that one."  someone else jump in.
[11:21] <carib909> lol
[11:24] <carib909> Agt bob you have taught me alot Thanks. Apt-get is working agin
[11:25] <carib909> Can anyone tell me how to stop keys from pepeating when typing in konsole or anywhere for that matter..
[11:25] <carib909> repeating keys in konsole
[11:25] <Agent_bob> carib909 welcome.
[11:27] <carib909> Soot package managers won't start
[11:27] <carib909> shoot!
[11:28] <Agent_bob> carib909 if you mean key bounce,  i don't know oc anything.   if you mean the delay timing   kcontrol should let you set that.
[11:29] <Agent_bob> carib909 only one instance of any package management system at a time can run    that's a safty thing.
[11:29] <Agent_bob> !adeptcrash | carib909
[11:32] <Agent_bob> carib909 also if you had paid attention.  i did tell you how to delete empty lines  when you asked.   but don't bother now.  they wont hurt anything   :)
[11:32] <carib909> ok thanks
[11:33] <carib909> I tried to delete empty lines but they would not go way. Like DOS editors, when you hit del they go away and the line drops down, but that would not work for me. It seems all is ok. Adept would not start but synaptic did.
[11:35] <Agent_bob> and like i said at the time.    [esc] :d
[11:53] <ailing> !phonon
[11:54] <engineer> it's the arts of kde4
[11:55] <ailing> engineer: i´m aware of that -- i´m trying to find out how to get the log messages of phonon
[11:56] <ailing> engineer: because it isn working on this machine, but it used to work
[11:56] <PhilRod> ailing: try system settings -> notifications. In there you can set phonon to log things to files, etc
[11:59] <ailing> PhilRod: you know where the actual debug log of phonon is stored (if any)? the system settings log is too generic, i.e. it only tells you it fails, but doesn´t say when and where
[12:00] <PhilRod> ailing: not specifically. I suspect it may be switched off, actually
[12:01] <ailing> PhilRod: the debug logging? hmm, are there any command line scripts/tools for phonon?
[12:02] <PhilRod> no idea, sorry. My kde 4 knowledge is pretty lacking. You could tr #kubuntu-kde4
[12:02] <PhilRod> s/tr/try/
[12:03] <ailing> PhilRod: ok thanks
[12:05] <slaviann> )
[12:06] <radovan> #worldchat
[12:26] <Taggnostr> is there a way to increase the volume of the audio device? even if it's 100% it's kinda low
[12:29] <Agent_bob> Taggnostr turn off "external apmlifier"  in alsamixer some times works.
[12:29] <Agent_bob> kinda depends on the hardware tho
[12:29] <Wizard> hi!
[12:29] <Taggnostr> where can I find alsamixer?
[12:30] <ubunturos> Taggnostr: if you use VLC, you could do it using [Ctrl] + "up arrow key"
[12:30] <Taggnostr> btw I'm on a notebook and I'm using its speaker but iirc with windows it was louder
[12:30] <Agent_bob> Taggnostr it's installed.   run it in a konsole
[12:30] <Wizard> is there any channel dedicated to intrepid ibex?
[12:31] <Agent_bob> ubunturos ???    are you high ?
[12:31] <Taggnostr> nice gui
[12:31] <Agent_bob> Wizard *buntu+1
[12:32] <Agent_bob> Wizard i.e.  #ubnntu+1   is the main development channel
[12:32] <Taggnostr> if I set the master to 80 I can't hear nothing
[12:33] <Wizard> Agent_bob: thanks
[12:33] <simi> i tried to enable boot login editing /etc/defaults/bootloged but the /var/log/boot remains empty, i need to read tALL the messages printed at boot time(in dmesg are not all, only the first part)
[12:33] <Agent_bob> master is only one of many controls
[12:35] <Agent_bob> simi what ?
[12:35] <Agent_bob> dmesg is what ?
[12:35] <Taggnostr> the pcm was at 39, now it's better
[12:35] <simi> Agent_bob: /var/log/dmesg is a log file
[12:35] <Agent_bob> simi and ?
[12:36] <simi> Agent_bob:  there i can read the first part of the boot mesages , the part that has that time stamp but there are more after
[12:37] <Agent_bob> simi  and dmesg is also a command.
[12:37] <Agent_bob> you may want to look at the command dmesg
[12:38] <Agent_bob> you can alter the system and the command dmesg will show it.   "even now"   not just at boot time.       i'm not sure what info you are after...
[12:42] <Agent_bob> well i just did   apt-get dist-upgrade   it installed a new kernel of the same version   so i'm expecting trouble.....
[12:44] <Agent_bob> yep just like i expected it to...  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=db086b5f
[12:44] <Agent_bob> well i'll fix that late,   i'm out.
[13:02] <paolo_> i can't see the usbdevfs under /proc/usb . what should I do?
[13:23] <adz21c> hi, i just installed an Asus Xonar D2, at first I had some sound (just the sound of alert box when u launched kaffeine or amarok saying it can't load xine) but now i have nothing and arts keeps dieing with a message box ("cpu overload"). Anyone have any ideas what i can do? [Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4.0.98]
[13:30] <pascal_> hi
[13:30] <pascal_> I need some help
[13:33] <pascal_> is someone here who could help me with a problem?
[13:33] <pascal_> german or english
[13:36] <pascal_> hallo?
[13:36] <adz21c> pascal_: just explain your problem and if anyone can help they will chime in
[13:38] <pascal_> I'm runnig dapper and every time, the kernel is updated menu.lst takes /dev/hda1 as root directory
[13:38] <pascal_> but it's /dev/hdb1
[13:38] <pascal_> therefor I have to change this by hand
[13:39] <pascal_> how can I tell kubintu to take /dev/hdb1 as root even after an update
[13:46] <pascal_> noone who can help me?
[13:50] <emons> hi guys how do i make the websites i visualize with firefox having their own fonts? with windows it was happening automatically, with kubuntu here i cant, someone can help?
[13:54] <simi_> emons:  maybe you need to install some fonts, try searching  medibuntu
[13:55] <pascal_> some here who knows how to configure grub?
[13:56] <emons> simi_ u mean kubuntu doesn't have all the fonts from the websites and so automatically it makes them coming out with a default font?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> 'morning
[14:29] <corpsicle> um
[14:29] <corpsicle> im new to kde, when i install a application with the "add/remove programs" thing, they dont end up in the menu until i restart kde
[14:30] <corpsicle> is that how it is or am i doing something wrong
[14:33] <PhilTrunk> they should really get added. You can manually force it by running "kbuildsycoca" though
[14:33] <PhilTrunk> saves you restarting the session
[14:34] <corpsicle> PhilTrunk : ok thanks
[14:39] <Taggnostr> does someone know where I can find the files of the kate sessions or if is there a way to export/import them?
[14:46] <simi_> emons:  there are some Microsoft fonts that are not installed and you must install them yourself(legal issues in some countries) try medibuntu i belive you can find the fonts there
[14:47] <emons> i did download the medibuntu list
[14:47] <emons> and from repository ive installed microsoft core fonts
[14:47] <emons> but i dont understand how do i do now?
[14:48] <simi_> emons:  if that was the problem and now you have the fonts restart firefox, maybe it will fix the problem
[14:49] <emons> tried but nuttin happened
[14:49] <emons> same fonts
[14:49] <Niksoni> Hello,i am still inexperienced in Linux and Ubuntu Releases,i am wondering,are there developing tools installed in Kubuntu for Developing it?
[14:50] <simi_> emons: ask in #ubuntu,  i am using konqueror and opera
[14:50] <emons> alright thanks
[14:52] <Niksoni> Anyone?
[14:53] <simi_> Niksoni:  hi
[14:54] <Niksoni> uhhh,hi?
[14:55] <Niksoni> I just don't get one thing,there are many people here,and no one i asking a question or something
[14:55] <Niksoni> Could it be that no one is having a bug or a problem?
[14:58] <simi_> Niksoni:   i answered you but it was an error
[14:59] <nonewmsgs> sorry niksoni i am not having any problems
[15:12] <frozty_sa|laptop> hopefully less noise here than I'd have in #ubuntu. I'm having an issue on my desktop box at the moment. after an update which obviously updated my xorg nvidia driver (the issue pertains to both proprietary and open), my desktop keeps on sizing down to something which seems to 640x480. the login screen is at the maximum resolution my monitor can handle (1440x900), but as soon as I log in it sizes down
[15:12] <nonewmsgs> does it happen with both k and gnome?
[15:12] <frozty_sa|laptop> can anyone maybe advise me as to what I can do to get X into a "fresh" state so it'll autodetect the values correctly?
[15:13] <nonewmsgs> also try to see if it happens with a new user
[15:13] <frozty_sa|laptop> haven't tested, not going to waste 400mb of bandwidth and 7 hours of downloading to install gnome
[15:13] <frozty_sa|laptop> it does, nonewmsgs
[15:13] <frozty_sa|laptop> with a new user, I mean
[15:13] <Niksoni> I have a question,where and how can i get someone to be my mentor?
[15:13] <engineer> eh?
[15:13] <engineer> mentor wtf
[15:14] <frozty_sa|laptop> I had the issue once previously. managed to solve it by removing the nvidia proprietary driver, restarting X, deleting the config file (after backing it up, obviously) and then restarting X again
[15:14] <frozty_sa|laptop> doesn't work this time though, nor does the backup config which I saved from after I fixed it work to get it into the proper size
[15:14] <nonewmsgs> can you make ti to the display manager?
[15:15] <frozty_sa|laptop> yup. and by default it seems to autodetect my monitor wrong (although I have no clue as to what the hell happens then, since the login screen is fine). so I choose a correct model/mode appropriate to my monitor in admin mode, then set up the res, then restart X, back to 640x480
[15:17] <nonewmsgs> does manually adjusting the xorg.conf file help
[15:17] <engineer> set the default settings to the resolution you want
[15:19] <frozty_sa|laptop>                 Depth   24
[15:19] <frozty_sa|laptop>                 Modes           "1024x768@60"   "800x600@60"    "800x600@56"    "640x480@60"
[15:19] <frozty_sa|laptop> should pick the first one, right?
[15:19] <frozty_sa|laptop> I haven't fiddled with X config files since they invented hal+udev+X
[15:19] <nonewmsgs> no chnge the first one to 1440x900
[15:21]  * frozty_sa|laptop repo-ifies /etc
[15:21] <frozty_sa|laptop> nonewmsgs: still odd that it jumps to 640x480 even when the first one is 1440x900
[15:22] <engineer> remove 640x480
[15:22] <frozty_sa|laptop> ssh-ing in to my desktop now, X just completely punked itself
[15:22] <gd515> hi
[15:22] <engineer> !hi | gd515
[15:23] <gd515> thanks .... this is my first time on kubuntu ... was previously a window user
[15:23] <engineer> just get straight to the point
[15:25] <gd515> are there any more rooms on this IRC
[15:25] <engineer> !channels
[15:25] <engineer> yes
[15:25] <engineer> /list
[15:26] <gd515> oh cool thanks
[15:26] <gd515> how often is the terminal used in kubuntu ? Is it neccessary to use ?
[15:26] <nonewmsgs> it is good to use for some things
[15:26] <engineer> sometimes
[15:27] <engineer> some actions are faster done by command line
[15:27] <gd515> ok i just wasnt sure if its someting i really needed to start learning to get the full effect of the OS
[15:27] <engineer> you might need it to tweak the OS into your needs and experience the full power of it
[15:28] <gd515> so far it seems better then windows ... it dont have all that extra  crap that microsoft throws at ya
[15:29] <engineer> well, you can install stuff you need
[15:29] <frozty_sa|laptop> extra crap like win32?
[15:29] <gd515> is virus protection needed or spyware stuff for linux ?
[15:29] <engineer> no
[15:30] <engineer> unless you want to prevent viruses from spreading to other computers
[15:30] <gd515> cool
[15:30] <frozty_sa|laptop> righto. engineer, I have now managed to get it into a 1440x900 desktop during login only. logout causes loss of this
[15:30] <engineer> gd515 in linux you can delete files while you're using them
[15:31] <frozty_sa|laptop> or more specifically, logout causes total X use failure
[15:31] <Wizard> frozty_sa|laptop: i had the same on my powerbook
[15:31] <Wizard> found solution on gentoo forums
[15:31] <gd515> ah thats cool lets the files dont get tied up ...
[15:32] <engineer> no more "file is being used" dailogs
[15:32] <frozty_sa|laptop> Wizard: got a link I could check out?
[15:32] <Wizard> forums.gentoo.org
[15:32] <Wizard> they had search field, very useful :)
[15:32] <gd515> i havent actually moved into kubuntu yet ... i used this programed called wubi and it install it using 15 gigs of my drive and it just give me the option to boot up with linux or my windows.
[15:32] <engineer> yep
[15:33] <engineer> like the live cd
[15:33] <frozty_sa|laptop> Wizard: got a specific set of terms I could search for so as to bypass all the noise?
[15:33] <gd515> ya ... is there any down falls doing it that way or should i consider moving it in on my second hard drive ?
[15:33] <engineer> i have to go now
[15:34] <Wizard> frozty_sa|laptop: i'm not sure
[15:34] <frozty_sa|laptop> gd515: your main issue will be inability to play some windows-bases games on linux, even though it is possible
[15:34] <Wizard> it was few months ago
[15:34] <frozty_sa|laptop> k, np
[15:35]  * frozty_sa|laptop cries
[15:35] <gd515> i see ... oh one more question if you dont mind .  How about music ... is there a radio i can install or what type of music files do i download ? Is it still Mp3
[15:35] <dad> I'm going through all the IRC clients that are available in Ubuntu's Applications area and they all suck big time so far.. What is your favourite IRC client to use in Ubuntu..
[15:36] <dad> get the fluendo plug in to play mp3s
[15:37] <frozty_sa|laptop> gd515: music files is the same as any. there are a variety of formats to choose from, and all of the common ones you would have on windows is usable in ubuntu
[15:37] <frozty_sa|laptop> what dad said about the mp3 plugin is a good idea, some legal reasons (which I'm not intimately familiar with since I don't stay in the US)
[15:38] <gd515> legal reasons ?
[15:38] <frozty_sa|laptop> like I said, I don't know
[15:39] <frozty_sa|laptop> nor do I care too much, since I don't like mp3
[15:39] <gd515> cool and thats done by using the synaptic manager
[15:40] <gd515> thanks for the help guys .
[15:41] <dad> I'm going through all the IRC clients that are available in Ubuntu's Applications area and they all suck big time so far.. What is your favourite IRC client to use in Ubuntu..
[15:41] <dad> this one I'm using now, Konversation, isnt' too bad
[15:41] <dad> but I'm really used to mIRC
[15:42] <dad> and I like my pop up messages..
[15:42] <frozty_sa|laptop> you can activate that in konversation
[15:42] <dad> how ?
[15:43] <dad> and what other IRC clients have pop ups
[15:43] <frozty_sa|laptop> settings -> configure notifications
[15:43] <frozty_sa|laptop> I'm not sure on what other ones have popups in that sense, though I am aware you can do some cool things with kvirc + avant
[15:44] <dad> no , that allows a set message to appear on a triggering event.. but that's not a pop up  message in mIRC.
[15:45] <Taladan> dad - have you tried xchat?
[15:45] <dad> These are the channel/chat messages you can store and then right click to insert into the message queue
[15:45] <dad> Not yet
[15:45] <dad> does it have pop ups ?
[15:45] <Taladan> Pop ups?
[15:45] <Wizard> irssi++
[15:45] <frozty_sa|laptop> what are popups then, dad?
[15:45] <dad> You store a little message , like your physical description, that you need to type all the time, and then you can right click in the panel window
[15:46] <dad> and you get a list of all these pre made messages and you can select one and it displays to the active window
[15:46] <Taladan> Um...I dunno about that, but it supports python scripting, so I'm sure you could probably do all of that via a script.
[15:46] <Taladan> something like /message1
[15:46] <dad> yes..
[15:46] <frozty_sa|laptop> I have no idea about whether konversation can do that, as I've never had to put it into a menu
[15:47] <frozty_sa|laptop> the command alias can do what you want in text, though
[15:48] <dad> when you program them you store them     Descript say:/ Funny Looking dwarf
[15:49] <dad> and then in the list you would pick descript and everyone you were talking to would see the phrase  Funny Looking dwarf
[15:50] <dad> I've seen alias commands in mIRC
[15:50] <frozty_sa|laptop> I've already answered your question, it is now up to you to see that
[15:51] <dad> anyway.. I don't want a client that makes me have to learn python scripting.. I want a client that supports this feature directly
[15:51] <dad> Thank you for your answer frozty_sa|laptop
[15:51] <frozty_sa|laptop> I didn't say you should learn python
[15:51] <dad> but you may not be the only person in the room who has an opinion,
[15:52] <frozty_sa|laptop> nor did I say I was
[15:54] <dad> nope, apparently not. no one else in the room has an opinion ! ha ha
[15:58] <amerigo> ! samba
[15:58] <amerigo> ! swat
[16:02] <XJman> Has anyone heard of that new motorola phone thats running linux?
[16:05] <frozty_sa|laptop> fscking internet
[16:10] <XJman> Yeah frozty_sa|laptop, its a pain
[16:11] <frozty_sa|laptop> huh? disconnecting internet, or my resolution woes?
[16:11] <XJman> Both.
[16:12] <XJman> Are you running wireless?
[16:13] <frozty_sa|laptop> yes/no/doesn'treallymatter
[16:13] <XJman> So it drops you internet if you are hardwired or wireless?
[16:14] <frozty_sa|laptop> you're confusing two issues
[16:14] <frozty_sa|laptop> the desktop box is the one with resolution issues
[16:14] <XJman> I was trying to help you with one at a time
[16:14] <frozty_sa|laptop> overall I just plain have shitty internet sometimes, comes with the geographical territory
[16:15] <XJman> Ahh ok
[16:15] <frozty_sa|laptop> thanks for the interest in both though :-)
[16:15] <frozty_sa|laptop> have any idea as to the X problem?
[16:15] <XJman> Have you tried to update your video card drivers?
[16:16] <frozty_sa|laptop> they are at the latest version. it is actually an update itself which caused this
[16:16] <XJman> I know some of the ATI cards can make your rez go crazy. I had to totally change my card in my desktop due to that
[16:16] <frozty_sa|laptop> nvidia card in my box
[16:18] <XJman> can you undo the updates from adept?
[16:18] <XJman> I've never really tried that.
[16:18] <frozty_sa|laptop> pffft, adept :-p
[16:19]  * frozty_sa|laptop hugs his terminal
[16:19] <frozty_sa|laptop> the issue will be finding the previous version of the repo files, though
[16:21] <XJman> Sorry man, I'm at a loss honestly. I'm not great at problem solving yet as I've been lucky this year and have not had many issues
[16:22] <frozty_sa|laptop> during this I find myself actually wishing for the older XFree86 again..
[16:22] <frozty_sa|laptop> where the autoconfig didn't try to overrule you at every corner
[16:24] <XJman> Problem is more and more programmers are comming to the ideal that computers are smarter than us.
[16:25] <XJman> I know how I wan't my computer, I know what I want on my computer. I don't want it to do it for me
[16:28] <Niksoni> I am a programme
[16:28] <Niksoni> Programmer
[16:28] <gd515> Can someone help me to install i program ?
[16:28] <Niksoni> Sure,what is the problem?
[16:29] <gd515> im trying to install kderadiostation-0.6  i have it downloaded on the desktop and i extrated it so not its a folder and i dont know what to do next
[16:30] <Niksoni> Can you explain a little better the last part?
[16:30] <Niksoni> When you have extracted it you need to find the folder
[16:31] <Niksoni> If it's the ordinary program (not source code) you can find the .exe or whatever extension in the folder
[16:31] <Niksoni> Also,install the Wine.package
[16:32] <gd515> after i extracted it .. it open with Dolphin and it have alot of files but i dont see a exe or a wine file ..
[16:32] <Niksoni> Hmm...
[16:33] <dotancohen> Hi all, I am having a hard time building exiv2 from source. Is there anyone experienced in such manners present?
[16:33] <Niksoni> I don't have my computer near me to see how i installed opera,it has got the same trick as yer file
[16:33] <Niksoni> Let me think for a second
[16:33] <gd515> let me see if wine is insalled
[16:33] <Niksoni> Install Wine
[16:33] <Niksoni> It opens .exe files
[16:36] <gd515> ok wine is installed but there isnt no exe file ... i dont think its even a windows app i think its a linux app
[16:36] <Niksoni> Hmm...
[16:36] <gd515> i dont know im new so it could be me thata making this harder then it should be
[16:37] <Niksoni> Im new too,trust me...
[16:37] <gd515> alot to learn huh
[16:37] <Niksoni> Yep
[16:37] <Niksoni> Im a BASIC programmer
[16:37] <Niksoni> and a Java too...
[16:37] <Niksoni> Ok,try searching in those upper menu's
[16:38] <gd515> im just trying to get a radio or something on here .just boring without sound
[16:38] <Niksoni> File then application or something
[16:38] <frozty_sa|laptop> gd515: wine enables you to click on an .exe in linux and then it can open the windows application in linux (if all goes well)
[16:38] <Niksoni> I think he allready knows that...
[16:38] <Niksoni> Search the File menu
[16:38] <Niksoni> in the upper left corner of the screen
[16:40] <Niksoni> gd515: have you found it?
[16:41] <gd515> ya but no luck
[16:41] <Niksoni> You found it in meny?
[16:41] <Niksoni> Menu i mean
[16:41] <gd515> ya
[16:42] <Niksoni> So it won't run?
[16:42] <gd515> no its still not working
[16:42] <Niksoni> You clicked on it and what happens then?
[16:43] <gd515> when i click on the wine thing in the start menu?
[16:43] <Niksoni> No,not wine
[16:43] <Niksoni> I meant the shortcut for the program you installed
[16:44] <gd515> oh no its not in the menu .. i havent even got it installed yet thats what im trying to do
[16:44] <Niksoni> Hmm...
[16:45] <Niksoni> If anyone else can take over,feel free
[16:45] <Niksoni> I need time to think
[16:45] <xeno99> ﻿Anyone using Amarok with a Sony Walkman (MTP question)?
[16:46] <gd515> well do you know another radio thing to download ... maybe its just this file
[16:47] <Niksoni> MythTV is a TV type though...
[16:47] <Niksoni> So i don't think it can do it well
[16:47] <dotancohen> gd515, please run ls in the folder for the program, and post it's contents
[16:47] <Niksoni> Try Real Player
[16:47] <Niksoni> It has got a good Radio,i use it myself
[16:48] <xeno99> ﻿Anyone using Amarok with a Sony Walkman (MTP question)?
[16:48] <Niksoni> No
[16:49] <xeno99> No wonder. It doesn't work properly
[16:56] <hemanathan> hi anyone help me ..how to install vlc using terminal
[16:57] <hemanathan> hi anyone help me ..how to install vlc using terminal
[16:58] <hemanathan> help me ya
[16:58] <hemanathan> anyone
[16:58] <hemanathan> anyone help me ya
[16:59] <axel> hemanathan: "sudo apt-get install vlc" should do it.
[17:00] <hemanathan> axel:no it is not getting installed
[17:00] <BluesKaj> !vlc
[17:01] <BluesKaj> hemanathan:  Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will want to click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, click the kubuntu software tab, check all the boxes "X",same goes for the third party software tab. Close,and then in the terminal "sudo apt-get update".Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu
[17:02] <hemanathan> axel:no it is not getting installed tell me some other things
[17:02] <hemanathan> i tried that it says break install and getting quitted
[17:03] <axel> hemanathan: what does apt-get say when you try this?
[17:03] <Niksoni> Maybe bug
[17:03] <hemanathan> axel;it depends on some packages and it lists the same
[17:04] <axel> hemanathan: strange. These packages should be installed automatically.
[17:06] <BluesKaj> universe and multiverse need to be enabled
[17:07] <hemanathan> ok tell me some packages for downloading and getting installed
[17:08] <hemanathan> could you tell me where apt-get file exists
[17:11] <axel> hemanathan: Can you speak German? I found a site about it.
[17:12] <axel> hemanathan: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/sources.list
[17:12] <emons> anyone?
[17:13] <axel> emons: someone.
[17:13] <emons> hey
[17:13] <emons> im trying to rename some .mp4a files with the taggers from the repositories, i tried 4 different taggers but the problem is always the same:
[17:14] <emons> ivegot load of files (mp3, wave, mp4a) and it doesnt let me drag and drop ONLY the files i want to tag edit, but everytime i have to open the all folder and it takes ages
[17:15] <emons> plus i wont rename em all but just the ones i selected
[17:15] <emons> du no how to help? or du no a professional tag renamer that works good?
[17:16] <axel> emons: Sorry. I've got no Idea. Anyone else?
[17:16] <hemanathan> no only english or tamil
[17:18] <axel> hemanathan: OK. The file to edit to enable additional repositories is /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:19] <axel> hemanathan: But before you start editing make a copy of it, e.g. "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak"
[17:19] <amerigo> # software
[17:20] <amerigo> # games
[17:20] <amerigo> ohhh sorry
[17:20] <amerigo> ! games
[17:20] <amerigo> ! sofware
[17:20] <amerigo> ! software
[17:21] <lil-romeo> hey all
[17:21] <lil-romeo> can someone help me
[17:21] <lil-romeo> i have big problems
[17:22] <lil-romeo> i want to enable widgets but i aint see menu of widgets
[17:22] <lil-romeo> i downloaded 8.04.1
[17:22] <lil-romeo> how to get the widgets
[17:22] <lil-romeo> ?
[17:22] <axel> lil-romeo: KDE3.5.X or 4.X?
[17:22] <lil-romeo> KDE 4X
[17:23] <lil-romeo> im desperate i not even have black design
[17:23] <lil-romeo> please say me you can help me
[17:23] <axel> lil-romeo: what do you see in the upper right corner of the desktop?
[17:23] <lil-romeo> nothinh
[17:23] <lil-romeo> all egal
[17:23] <lil-romeo> no button or anything
[17:24] <axel> lil-romeo: actually there should be a menu to add widgets.
[17:24] <lil-romeo> yes
[17:24] <lil-romeo> but theire isnt
[17:24] <lil-romeo> u got a link for me that does have
[17:24] <lil-romeo> or how to get
[17:24] <lil-romeo> upgrade cmd?
[17:25] <axel> lil-romeo: I'm sorry. I don't have much experience with KDE4. I Wait until 4.1 or 4.2.
[17:26] <lil-romeo> dont have to wait
[17:27] <lil-romeo> it just have to work
[17:27] <lil-romeo> i want that gadgets
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[17:28] <axel> lil-romeo: Sorry. I can't help you.
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> I got a problem with kmix, I cant get the slider to move between 100% and 0% volume
[17:31] <DarthFrog> lil-romeo: Do an "apt-cache search plasmoids" to get your widgets.
[17:31] <DarthFrog> That'll tell you what's available.
[17:32] <DarthFrog> I think you need to be running KDE 4.1RC though.
[17:35] <lil-romeo> apt-cache search plasmoids
[17:35] <moope1> Hello, I just tried to rip a cd with k3b and tried to save the output to a folder didn't exist. I got a "cannot connect to /dev/hda/" error and now k3b cant see the cd drive
[17:35] <lil-romeo> ?
[17:35] <DarthFrog> Didn't you say you wanted desktop widgets?
[17:35] <lil-romeo> yes
[17:36] <lil-romeo> but still
[17:36] <lil-romeo> it isnt theire my mates
[17:36] <DarthFrog> Well, they're in those plasmoid debs.
[17:36] <lil-romeo> all
[17:36] <lil-romeo> ?
[17:36] <lil-romeo> but if i want to redownload
[17:36] <lil-romeo> ....
[17:37] <lil-romeo> wich version i need to download
[17:37] <lil-romeo> to gett all work
[17:37] <Niksoni> lil-romeo are you a little bit of spamming...?
[17:37] <lil-romeo> nope
[17:37] <lil-romeo> just listen to what i tell
[17:37] <DarthFrog> Go to www.kubuntu.org and follow the instructions there to install KDE4.1RC1.
[17:38] <lil-romeo> k my mate
[17:38] <lil-romeo> thanks
[17:38] <Jucato> #kubuntu-kde4 also for Kubuntu KDE 4 support
[17:38] <lil-romeo> kde remix
[17:38] <lil-romeo> is that it ?
[17:38] <DarthFrog> moope1: Sounds like it might be a hardware problem.  Maybe the drive cable or power plug came loose?
[17:39] <lil-romeo> nope
[17:39] <Sp0t> Hi
[17:39] <Sp0t> what's up people
[17:40] <Sp0t> Is this channel also for Ubuntu 8.04?
[17:41] <DarthFrog> Sp0t: Not really.
[17:41] <Sp0t> ai
[17:41] <DarthFrog> It's for the KDE version.
[17:41] <Sp0t> ok have to change channel
[17:41] <Sp0t> I'm new to linux, but it rocks
[17:42] <DarthFrog> Welcome aboard!
[17:42] <Sp0t> but installed Ubuntu 8.04
[17:42] <lil-romeo> YES it does only if things workf for 100
[17:42] <Sp0t> thank you
[17:42] <lil-romeo> %
[17:42] <alucardromero> ;)
[17:42] <newtral> is there a system monitor in kde, like gnome-system-monitor?
[17:42] <lil-romeo> KDE4.1 RC download if i want widgets and the black skinned i need to download  KDE4.1 RC download?
[17:43] <alucardromero> newtral: Yes, there is... Gimme a moment to remember it.
[17:43] <DarthFrog> lil-romeo: You should go to #kubuntu-kde4 for support on KDE4.
[17:43] <lil-romeo> thnx
[17:43] <alucardromero> newtral: You're gonna have to google it.
[17:43] <newtral> k thx
[17:43] <alucardromero> I can't remember anything right now.
[17:44] <alucardromero> I just woke up.
[17:44] <alucardromero> But yes, one does exist.
[17:44] <newtral> hehe ok
[17:50] <moope1> ﻿Hi, k3b is having problems ripping stuff from cds, when I first boot and start it it sees the CD and gets all the track listings then when I set the rip process going it says  "cannot access \dev\hdb" (cd drive)
[17:50] <moope1> ﻿now it cant see the cd drive at all!
[17:50] <moope1> :(
[17:52] <DarthFrog> moope1:  You know you can open an audio CD in the Audio Device section of Konqueror, then drag 'n drop the OGG or MP3 files from that window to another window?  The tracks will be ripped automatically as they transfer.
[17:53] <bengates> gg
[17:53] <corpsicle> whats that mp3 player for kde that im looking for ? =P
[17:53] <DarthFrog> Amarok.
[17:53] <bengates> amarok
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> theres loads
[17:56] <moope1> DarthFrog, I think its something more system level
[17:56] <moope1> Unknown error. If you have a cd in the drive try running cdparanoia -vsQ as yourself (not root).
[18:01] <corpsicle> DarkriftX : thats the one, thanks =)
[18:04] <corpsicle> ack, what was that command that reloads the kde menu ?
[18:04] <corpsicle> so i dont have to restart kde to get the newly installed apps in the menu
[18:05] <corpsicle> hrm, kbuildsycoca
[18:05] <corpsicle> but it didnt help
[18:05] <DarthFrog> corpsicle:  Well, if all else fails, you could try pressing CTL-ALT-Backspace.  Note: that's a last-ditch resort.
[18:05] <corpsicle> yea
[18:06] <corpsicle> thats what i dont want to do =)
[18:06] <lil-romeo> mates any know how to get and were to download kde4
[18:06] <lil-romeo> ?
[18:06] <corpsicle> looks like im doing some sort of restart of kde
[18:06] <corpsicle> brb
[18:06] <lil-romeo> so i got the black linux and the desktop widgets
[18:06] <lil-romeo> ?
[18:06] <DarthFrog> !kde4
[18:07] <lil-romeo> wich 1 i need:D?
[18:07] <lil-romeo> alpha
[18:07] <lil-romeo> or?
[18:07] <DarthFrog> lil-romeo: You don't want KDE 4.0.5 as the bot suggests, you want KDE 4.1RC1 and I've already told you how to get it.
[18:08] <lil-romeo> well
[18:08] <lil-romeo> kubuntu.org u said
[18:08] <lil-romeo> than the rc
[18:08] <DarthFrog> Zigzactly.
[18:08] <lil-romeo> at downloads
[18:08] <frozty_sa|laptop> uhhm...where does KDE store its resolution settings, if any?
[18:09] <lil-romeo> is it correct frog:D?
[18:09] <DarthFrog> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1rc1
[18:09] <DarthFrog> And that specifically addresses your issue with Plasma.
[18:11] <nafion> hi all. has anyone had any luck installing fuppes? documentation seems to be a little scarce out there...
[18:22] <jm87> please redirect me @italian chat
[18:24] <jussi01> !it
[18:25] <jussi01> jm87: ^^
[18:25] <jm87> ciao ragazzi ho un piccolo problema
[18:27] <hoernerfranz> anyone using kontact from kde4rc1 packages here ?
[18:29] <sourcemaker> hoernerfranz: yes... is working well
[18:30] <hoernerfranz> hm, I have a bit trouble with it, e.g. when I choose 'configure' kmail (or other component) I always get the global kontact configuration dialog
[18:31] <hoernerfranz> otherwise, akregator often crashes when I hit CTRL-R (mark messages as read)
[18:32] <sourcemaker> hoernerfranz: I do not have this problems :-)
[18:32] <sjovani> hi all
[18:33] <sjovani> I'm using Huawei 3G Modem to connect Internet. I can browse with Firefox, but KDE apps does not detect connection...
[18:33] <hoernerfranz> ok, sourcemaker, good for you :)
[18:33] <sjovani> I can't browse with konqueror
[18:34] <sourcemaker> hoernerfranz:  I have only the problem... that there are a lot of icons in kde... which are not visible for me...
[18:35] <hoernerfranz> sourecmaker: you mean desktop icons ?
[18:35] <sourcemaker> hoernerfranz: icons in kickoff and konqueror... so I only see a "?" icon
[18:37] <hoernerfranz> ah, kickof, yes - I do have those also in kickoff 'programs' menu, otherwise, all ok.
[18:41] <antti> onko suomalaisia?
[18:44] <antti> anybody here?
[18:44] <sigma_> yup
[18:44] <sigma_> !ask
[18:45] <hoernerfranz> sure, but not understanding 'onko suomalaisia' :)
[18:45] <antti> ohh ok sorry
[18:46] <antti> it was finnish and i thought there are some fiinish people here.
[18:47] <corpsicle> when i use dolphin to connect to a samba share it works fine, but i cant use that to build a collection in amarok can i ? and when i try to mount it i get permission error
[18:47] <BluesKaj> !fi
[18:47] <corpsicle> can i somehow supply a username with the mount command ?
[18:47] <corpsicle> i dont have to do that with dolphin
[18:52] <DarthFrog> corpsicle:   mount -o uid=<uid>,gid=<gid>
[18:56] <leslie> hellor roomies
[18:57] <leslie> hmm
[18:57] <leslie> looks like everyone is busy
[18:57]  * DarthFrog is eating breakfast.
[19:01] <sourcemaker> how can I use strigi in kde4?
[19:02] <jm87_> condo me e per unascgheda un po piu recente della mia
[19:04] <jm87_> c ho la tastiera che non risponde ai comandi
[19:04] <jm87_> per esempio quando so scrive
[19:04] <sourcemaker> !it
[19:05] <leslie> hey any gals here?
[19:10] <corpsicle> DarthFrog : yea i mean if the user doesnt exist on this system, i want to pass it as an argument for authentication on the remote system
[19:11] <leslie> can anyone tell me wats this room all abt?
[19:11] <DarthFrog> !kubuntu
[19:12] <DarthFrog> corpsicle: Yeah, you can do that.  "man mount" for details how.
[19:34] <bobJR> ive got a question im only running kubuntu i have to put windows on pc for my school whats the best way to do it and keep grub working
[19:34] <bobJR> i know how to partition with gparted
[19:37] <hoernerfranz> bobJR, just be sure to have a big enough partition for kubuntu, then install it there alongside windoze, grub will be configured for dual-boot automatically
[19:37] <bobJR> ive done it before and it screwed it up franz
[19:38] <bobJR> kubuntu had more than enough  space
[19:38] <hoernerfranz> strange - I've done this several times and it always worked
[19:38] <bobJR> but grub would load and then it would go strait to windows xp
[19:38] <bobJR> i couldnt even select linux
[19:38] <bobJR> so should i partition with windows
[19:38] <bobJR> or gparted
[19:39] <bobJR> gparted could be my problem
[19:40] <hoernerfranz> hm, the ubuntu installer can also do partinioning for you
[19:41] <bobJR> what program do i use in ubuntu well im using kubuntu ?
[19:42] <hoernerfranz> the installer for kubuntu works the same way as that for ubuntu
[19:42] <bobJR> ok
[19:42] <bobJR> ill use gparted then and try my luck i know its gonna screw up ive done it before
[19:43] <bobJR> and partition one partition ntfs
[19:43] <hoernerfranz> you may need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to select what is booted by default, as well as the timeout for selection
[19:43] <bobJR> and leave the rest
[19:43] <bobJR> how do you do that once its installed
[19:44] <hoernerfranz> you can use any text editor for that
[19:44] <bobJR> ok how do i get into it is what im asking
[19:45] <bobJR> once windows is installed
[19:45] <hoernerfranz> oh, well, you need to boot into linux, first, as windoze won't recognize an ext2 /boot partition :)
[19:46] <hoernerfranz> alternatively, you can use the live cd (kubuntu) and do it from there
[19:46] <bobJR> ok i might be in here once its done
[19:46] <bobJR> later and thanks
[19:47] <hoernerfranz> you'r welcome - good luck !
[20:01] <corpsicle> DarthFrog : i was trying -o user "User Name" but it wouldnt accept that
[20:06] <pitme> hello
[20:07] <pitme> is it possible to get help in here
[20:08] <hoernerfranz> pitme: depends :)
[20:10] <jan> hallo wie funktioniert das hier
[20:11] <BluesKaj> !de | jan
[20:15] <pitme> I have installed kubuntu 8.04 and im a first time linux user. I have experimented with the "user manegement" and i have a great problem now. Now I have only a "ordinary" user in kubunti named pitme, with no admin rights. So now i cannot accces for exempel "add/remove prgrams" and i cannot make any changes on the  "user manegement" page. When i insert my password it says "Your username is unknown to sudo!". How can i make my username known to
[20:15] <pitme> Sodu?
[20:16] <jan> hi, ich versuche gerade den chillispot ans laufen zu bekommen, leider habe ich keine ahnung wie ich diese config datei befuellen muss
[20:17] <BluesKaj> jan: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:26] <Koordin> hi everyone. how can i remove the Qt 4.3 development package ?
[20:27] <pitme> anyone?
[20:30] <hoernerfranz> pitme: try to edit /etc/sudoers from a live cd boot
[20:31] <pitme> any guide on how to do this? I have found the following but don't think it will work:
[20:31] <pitme> adduser username admin
[20:31] <pitme> shutdown -r now
[20:31] <pitme> i should insert that in the GRUB recovery menu!
[20:32] <hoernerfranz> partly ok, yes: you have to make sure your user is in group 'admin'
[20:33] <hoernerfranz> in effect, all what has to be done is add user 'pitme' to group 'admin'
[20:33] <pitme> i have tried that from the terminel but it says im about to be reported or something.. :-(
[20:34] <hoernerfranz> sure that's why i said: do it from a live cd, as your current account doesn't have admin privilegues :)
[20:35] <pitme> ah i see. Will be right back.. Thanks for the help :-)
[20:36] <hoernerfranz> you're welcome, good luck :)
[20:36] <pitme> thanks
[20:40] <Taggnostr> what is the KDE wallet?
[20:40] <Taggnostr> it's asking me for a password
[20:42] <Taladan> It's a utility that stores your password locally on your system for various things so that you don't have to keep retyping it over and over and over.
[20:42] <pitme> Thanks hoernerfranz. It worked out nice.. Just one last question. Im I supposed to have "admin" as my secondery gruop on a default user?
[20:44] <pitme> is it safe and so? And by the way. When i installed kubuntu for the first time i don't recall i had to insert my password every time i would add/remove programs!
[20:46] <hoernerfranz> pitme: glad to read it worked :)
[20:47] <hoernerfranz> pitme: admin as secondary group is ok
[20:47] <Taggnostr> Taladan, do I have to set a master password?
[20:48] <hoernerfranz> additional note: it is normal you have to provide your pwd on admin tasks
[20:48] <hoernerfranz> because normal account doesn't have root privilegues
[20:49] <pitme> hoernerfranz: okay. Do you know if the default user when I installed kubuntu had admin rights as secondery?
[20:49] <hoernerfranz> yes
[20:49] <pitme> is there a difference between root and admin?
[20:49] <hoernerfranz> root is in group admin automatically, so ok
[20:50] <pitme> thank you very much for your help..
[20:50] <pitme> hoernerfranz: have a nice day
[20:50] <pitme> :-)
[20:50] <hoernerfranz> you're welcome, same for you :)
[20:53] <h2i> i need to ssh into root
[20:53] <h2i> is there a config file somewhere i can edit?
[20:54] <h2i> SLADinstaller requires it
[20:57] <not-alone> монтирую удаленную виндовс папку командой sudo mount //10.201.66.18/D$ /home/not-alone/test -o username=Xpassword=X,iocharset=utf8. Чтение запись есть, но некоторые программы работают очень и очень криво. или вообще не работают. ПРи этом эти же программы работают замечтально если
[20:57] <not-alone> запускать из через kdesudo
[20:57] <not-alone> в чем может быть проблема
[20:57] <nonewmsgs> !ru |not-alone
[20:57] <not-alone> sorry
[20:57] <nonewmsgs> no problems mate :)
[20:59] <maduser> My sound just went out
[20:59] <maduser> any fixes?
[21:00] <stmiller> maduser: exit all apps that use audio and try your app again
[21:01] <maduser> i got to wait i reset the auto suspend and it says restarting sound systm
[21:03] <shaffy> can anyone tell me why 1 of my 2 500gb external hds (formatted in ext3) shows up in windows (using an ext2/ext3 linux driver) and the other does not?  both were formatted using mkfs.ext3
[21:06] <brad__> I just have a quick question
[21:06] <BluesKaj> maduser ,you have to make sure you've chosen which audio device you want to use ,usually alsa will work ..if you have it on auto , the auto suspend restart will just keep going in circles
[21:06] <brad__> is firefox 3.01 extraordinarily broken for everyone on 64bit?
[21:07] <brad__> because I waited a bit to install because I wasnt sure if I would have to redo the flash fix or not, and it doesn't work at all
[21:07] <brad__> which is sad because its a stability update and it worked well before and now doesn't work even a little bit
[21:08] <Taladan> Taggnostr: Yeah, iirc
[21:09] <stmiller> brad__ flash crashes firefox a lot
[21:10] <brad__> no but I mean it worked perfectly before, I updated routinely, and now it wont do anything
[21:10] <brad__> it shows a blank page, and an x where the icon would be
[21:10] <brad__> and you cant enter anything in the address line
[21:10] <brad__> its completely, absolutely broken and does not function in any way
[21:11] <stmiller> brad__ ah crap no I don't have that problem. using 64bit kubuntu
[21:11] <brad__> well thats really frustrating because it worked just fine before the upgrade
[21:12] <brad__> and I tried uninstalling and reinstalling it and have no other ideas
[21:13] <brad__> sorry apparently I just had to force kill it
[21:15] <paul__> hi can a newbie who has just installed kbuntu
[21:15] <paul__> can anyone help i meant to say lol
[21:17] <paul__> i am having trouble with the styles
[21:18] <stmiller> paul__ try kcontrol
[21:18] <paul__> ok st, do i download it?
[21:19] <stmiller> k control center. It's in the K menu, or just do Alt-F2 and type kcontrol
[21:19] <paul__> mm, dont seem to have it
[21:21] <stmiller> paul__ is it part of kde. That is where you make all style settings, etc. It's there. :) Good luck,
[21:21] <paul__> i cannot get the menu to be translucent, all styles do not seem to be compatible
[21:35] <elo_> the internet is a bunch of tubes, it's not a big truck
[21:55] <ilkin> I have a file in trash but i can not delete it
[21:56] <ilkin> "access denied" is written each time i try to remove it permanently
[22:00] <icelab> i think you have to became like root
[22:01] <jhutchins> !kdesu | icelab
[22:01] <jhutchins> ilkin: Usually you have to "empty" the trash rather than try to delete a file within the trash.
[22:03] <ilkin> I am trying no results
[22:04] <icelab> ok
[22:04] <icelab> i've make some mistake?
[22:07] <HighHo> icelab:  open a konsole window type "cd" to ensure your in your home folder then "cd .local/share/Trash/files" then "sudo rm * -R"
[22:08] <HighHo> that should remove everything in your trash
[22:09] <icelab> sorry for my english but the problem is not mine bat of ilkin
[22:09] <jhutchins> ilkin: Ok, so try emptying the trash.
[22:09] <icelab> ilkin have you got it?
[22:09] <jhutchins> ilkin: Right-click on the trash icon.
[22:10] <HighHo> sorry for ilkin then
[22:10] <ilkin> I know
[22:10] <ilkin> it still appears
[22:10] <ilkin> i mean message
[22:11] <HighHo> ilkin: did you try my suggestion?
[22:11] <icelab> can i use brasero in kubuntu?
[22:11] <icelab> or exist other apllication?
[22:12] <HighHo> icelab: k3b is kde's cd burning software
[22:12] <ilkin> sudo rm * -R --this command helped
[22:12] <ilkin> thanks you
[22:12] <HighHo> ilkin: Glad to hear its resolved.
[22:14] <ilkin> what does -R doing in this command?
[22:14] <HighHo> ilkin:  -R will remove folders as well if the exist instead of just files.
[22:15] <icelab> thanks a lot higtho
[22:18] <icelab> is there in somewhere a italian manual of shell command?
[22:19] <icelab> sorry pheraps is better if i use google...:-))
[22:20] <HighHo> !it
[22:20] <HighHo> might get better help there
[22:29] <adz21c> hey, I have a Asus Xonar D2 Sound card, I have spdif audio out working and I have Line IN capturing working, however I can't hear the line in playback. I can record it then play it then play the audio file but not play the audio captured live, any ideas how I might solve this?
[22:34] <BluesKaj> adz21c:  look in kmix and crank the line input up
[22:34] <adz21c> there is none
[22:34] <adz21c> its just a mute or unmute, which i found odd
[22:34] <BluesKaj> in kmix?
[22:35] <adz21c> oh no, capture tickbox, not even a mute mox
[22:35] <BluesKaj> not alsa kmix
[22:36] <adz21c> http://ivy.shu.ac.uk/~asburton/kmix.png
[22:46] <ogzy> hi, i am trying to set my kubuntu at a corporate network, i couldnt set my apt work behind the proxy because the user name is as domainname\username, i wrote it this wat to my bashrc file reqiere password and export http_proxy but it didnt work
[22:46] <ogzy> i tried domainname\\username also
[22:47] <BluesKaj> try domainname/user
[22:47] <ogzy> BluesKaj: i did it also
[22:48] <ogzy> BluesKaj: i tried domainame\/username also
[22:49] <ogzy> BluesKaj: can it be related with, i am not using NTLMAPS
[23:04] <guido> I'm getting a "Got BadMatch when trying to restack windows. This is most likely caused by a broken window manager (commonly KWin)" How can I fix Kwin=
[23:10] <guido> 'm getting a "Got BadMatch when trying to restack windows. This is most likely caused by a broken window manager (commonly KWin)" How can I fix Kwin?
[23:10] <BluesKaj> !Kwin
[23:11] <BluesKaj> !KWin
[23:11] <maduser> !the window that is K
[23:12] <maduser> !esd
[23:12] <maduser> !alsa
[23:14] <BluesKaj> maduser: k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[23:14] <maduser> i got it fixed
[23:14] <BluesKaj> good
[23:14] <maduser> i disabled the auto suspend and that seems to be working
[23:18] <guido> hey, guys, I've just removed compiz and now I'm getting a KWin BadMatch error, any thoughts?
[23:19] <gkffjcs> If i install a documentation package with apt, how do I access and read it?
[23:20] <BluesKaj> guido , try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop
[23:21] <guido> BluesKaj: Would that delete any of my settings?
[23:21] <BluesKaj> settings ?
[23:21] <guido> configurations and stuff
[23:21] <HighHo> gkffjcs: Not sure, check /usr/doc
[23:21] <maduser> for gnome no
[23:21] <BluesKaj> not that i know of
[23:22] <BluesKaj> reinstall , not remove and install ...there's adiff
[23:22] <guido> Ahhh
[23:23] <guido> I see
[23:23] <guido> how do I reinstall it then?
[23:23] <guido> apt-get reinstall kubuntu-desktop?
[23:23] <gkffjcs> I figured that out, I mean in a documentation viewer.
[23:24] <BluesKaj> guido, yes
[23:24] <BluesKaj> sudo
[23:25] <guido> I've checked the man... it's actualy --reinstall
[23:25] <guido> I'm going to try that out.. thanks a bunch BluesKaj
[23:26] <guido> quick question though... would that reinstall compiz?
[23:27] <BluesKaj> no
[23:27] <guido> can I do this from a konsole or do I have to close KDE?
[23:28] <ZmAY> hello, can someone tell me how to establish/configure wireless?
[23:36] <ubuntu> \
[23:37] <ubuntu> \
[23:37] <ubuntu> \quit
[23:41] <cyph3r> hi
[23:42] <cyph3r> is there a way to not display my IP info on irc?
[23:45] <crimsun> cyph3r: ask for a cloak on freenode.
[23:45] <crimsun> cyph3r: freenode's web pages have instructions.
[23:45] <crimsun> cyph3r: for IRC generally, you'd have to use a shell or some type of proxy if "cloaks" are unavailable.
[23:46] <crimsun> e.g., tor
[23:46] <cyph3r> thanks for the reply
[23:46] <cyph3r> I'm new to IRC
[23:46] <crimsun> welcome.
[23:47] <cyph3r> thanks
[23:47] <cyph3r> I do have an odd problem with kubuntu 8.04 on my laptop as well
[23:47] <leba_> I need to kick my old nick which is blocking my identification process, could someone tell me how to do that please ?
[23:48] <cyph3r> whenever I close the lid, the screen constantly cuts out
[23:48] <cyph3r> I tried disabling powersaving options, but it hasn't helped
[23:52] <adrela> m
[23:53] <sledge> I have a weird problem, folks. Every time a type a letter on my keyboard, my mouse pointer stops.
[23:53] <sledge> ... stops for a second.