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Martiini | have the intrepid updates been uploaded yet ?? Im not getting any updates | 03:53 |
wgrant | Martiini: Um, Intrepid has been open for uploads for some months now... | 03:55 |
Martiini | aah, ok .. I was just told that Alpha 3 is still delayed | 03:56 |
wgrant | I'm not sure what that has to do with "the intrepid updates". | 03:57 |
wgrant | And Alpha 3 has been released. | 03:57 |
Martiini | I havent been getting any updates to intrepid for a month now .. aptitude works .. synaptic works .. just simply no updates | 03:58 |
wgrant | Then your sources.list is very probably worng. | 03:59 |
Martiini | shit .. I modified my preferenced file .. of course .. Im using apt-pinning :) | 03:59 |
cody-somerville | Martiini, You can find support for Intrepid in #ubuntu+1 | 04:00 |
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RAOF | Aha. Conduit is uninstallable because of differences with our gnome-python-extras. Debian build a couple of extra binary packages from g-p-e (python-eggtrayicon and -gtkmozembed, specifically). | 08:52 |
RAOF | Is the correct fix here to adapt conduit to our gnome-python-extras, or to bring gnome-python-extras inline with Debian? | 08:53 |
zorglu_ | i got a quite technical question. i would like to add stuff in the /etc/hosts kindof file but in a directory..?. something like /etc/hosts.d/mypackage.conf | 10:08 |
zorglu_ | does this exists ? | 10:08 |
geser | why do you need to add something to /etc/hosts? | 10:09 |
zorglu_ | to add hostnames... | 10:11 |
zorglu_ | i dont understand | 10:11 |
zorglu_ | is there a way to get this conf.d or anything cleaner than a parse of /etc/hosts or echo myip myhost >>/etc/hosts ? | 10:11 |
geser | Why do you need to add a hostname? | 10:12 |
geser | afaik there is no mechanism to update /etc/hosts, besides the admin could use a dns server to configure host names | 10:13 |
zorglu_ | geser: ok thanks.... too bad. i will stick to echo >> and parse with sed then... | 10:13 |
geser | zorglu_: it's against the debian policy to change configurations files from other packages | 10:14 |
geser | I still don't understand why you need to add a hostname there during package installation | 10:14 |
zorglu_ | it is ultra long to explain. but dont worry me too i would prefere to avoid it if i could | 10:16 |
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james_w | Hi all. Is this a correct bug? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/218586 | 11:31 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 218586 in sysvinit "Upgrade of avahi-daemon restarts it although it's desactivated" [Undecided,New] | 11:31 |
james_w | there is a bug there, as the user deactivated a service, but gets it restarted on upgrade. However, I'm not sure if the bug is in the correct place. | 11:32 |
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emgent | tseliot: o/ | 11:57 |
tseliot | emgent: hey ;) | 12:00 |
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malpheus | hello | 14:00 |
* Hobbsee tries to remember. | 14:07 | |
Hobbsee | what was the important thing about uploading imlib2? | 14:07 |
malpheus | does anyone know of any platforms to write applications in so they can easily have their 'actions' modified? | 14:09 |
malpheus | oops im looking for app development channel | 14:12 |
malpheus | bye bye, keep up the good works | 14:14 |
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ogra | bryce, around ? | 16:01 |
Fjodor | fabbione: Hi my man! You wouldn't happen to be in Aarhus now, would you? | 17:46 |
theclaw | hi | 18:04 |
theclaw | what is /lib/modules/$kernelver/volatile? | 18:04 |
wasabi | modules which are built on your machine | 18:09 |
wasabi | I believe. | 18:09 |
cjwatson | modules which are linked on your machine | 18:18 |
theclaw | where do those modules come from? | 18:27 |
theclaw | they aren't included in any package | 18:27 |
cjwatson | theclaw: /lib/linux-restricted-modules/ | 18:28 |
theclaw | cjwatson: thanks | 18:32 |
theclaw | so these modules are copied from there upon boot-up? | 18:32 |
theclaw | (I heard this volatile directory gets emptied upon boot-up) | 18:33 |
cjwatson | yes | 18:34 |
theclaw | hmm, why? | 18:34 |
theclaw | why not put them /lib/modules directly? | 18:34 |
cjwatson | because we can't legally distribute them that way | 18:35 |
theclaw | cjwatson: why? What's the difference between putting them directly in /lib/modules, and putting them in /lib/restricted... ? | 18:37 |
cjwatson | theclaw: if you look closely you'll see that there's more of a difference than just the location. | 18:38 |
cjwatson | they don't get linked with the kernel until boot | 18:38 |
theclaw | they get compiled on the fly? | 18:38 |
cjwatson | linked, not compiled | 18:38 |
theclaw | I'm confused, why is that a problem? Why do the have to be linked on each boot-up? | 18:39 |
theclaw | *they | 18:39 |
theclaw | debian for example also offers nvidia-kernel packages in non-free | 18:39 |
theclaw | which I have to compile with module-assistant, but not on each boot-up | 18:40 |
cjwatson | therefore Debian is not distributing them pre-compiled and pre-linked | 18:40 |
theclaw | what's with http://packages.debian.org/etch/nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-686 for example? | 18:43 |
theclaw | this package includes 'nvidia.ko' | 18:43 |
cjwatson | if they're distributing them, that's up to them, but note that Debian has considerably less money than Canonical and is not a significant lawsuit target | 18:43 |
theclaw | okay | 18:44 |
theclaw | sorry, I guess I'm a bit annoying by now, but why don't just link them *once*? | 18:44 |
theclaw | Upon installing the package, for example | 18:45 |
theclaw | wouldn't this be okay, legally? | 18:45 |
cjwatson | I have no idea and am not particularly keen to investigate | 18:45 |
theclaw | okay | 18:45 |
theclaw | thanks for your answers | 18:45 |
cjwatson | I don't think we should be putting significantly more effort into the organisation of the restricted modules than we do | 18:45 |
theclaw | okay | 18:47 |
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theclaw | I have a another completely concern; (#ubuntu couldn't help me on that, I think developers have more clue about this issue): | 18:53 |
theclaw | I just moved from debian to ubuntu, I made a backup of my home-dir beforehand, and restored it; Now, gnome has "visual effects" (not compiz, in fact the compiz process isn't running at all) | 18:53 |
theclaw | When I create a new user with a "clean homedirectory", there aren't any such effects by default | 18:54 |
theclaw | it looks like those "composite"-effects | 18:54 |
theclaw | (the window border is "shadowed", for example) | 18:54 |
theclaw | (-for example, it's the only effect I notice) | 18:54 |
alex-weej | updated intrepid today for the first time since last weekend | 18:56 |
alex-weej | and my .gtk-bookmarks file seemed to have reset. | 18:56 |
diogo | hi.... I need help from developers... I know that a part of Xorg has a problem with abnt2 br layout... how did ubuntu fixed it? | 18:56 |
alex-weej | anyone know anything about this? | 18:56 |
alex-weej | diogo: try #ubuntu-x | 18:56 |
theclaw | (got it; there's a gconf-option for using metacity as a composite manager; don't know how that ever got enabled) | 19:03 |
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* slangasek claims a 4-digit bug number, whee :) | 19:29 | |
ion_ | slangasek: Had they used base-36 bug-IDs from the beginning, we’d be using 4-digit bug numbers up to the 1 679 615th bug. :-) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/malone/+spec/base-36-bug-ids | 19:33 |
* slangasek blinks | 19:35 | |
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Laney | Can someone give me any advice as to the next step for getting security fixes uploaded after producing debdiffs? I'm referring to bug #235915 | 21:27 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 235915 in imlib2 "[CVE-2008-2426] imlib2 PNM and XPM buffer overflows" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/235915 | 21:27 |
crimsun | Laney: it's fine; the appropriate team is subscribed and will deal with it. | 21:45 |
Laney | crimsun: OK that's great. I wasn't sure of the procedure with sponsorship | 21:45 |
Laney | Tghanks for the information | 21:45 |
Laney | -g | 21:46 |
ion_ | benc: Yay :-) | 22:35 |
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