[00:15] moin === Igorot is now known as acmeuser === acmeuser is now known as Igorot === ScottK is now known as ScottK2 === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK [03:53] have the intrepid updates been uploaded yet ?? Im not getting any updates [03:55] Martiini: Um, Intrepid has been open for uploads for some months now... [03:56] aah, ok .. I was just told that Alpha 3 is still delayed [03:57] I'm not sure what that has to do with "the intrepid updates". [03:57] And Alpha 3 has been released. [03:58] I havent been getting any updates to intrepid for a month now .. aptitude works .. synaptic works .. just simply no updates [03:59] Then your sources.list is very probably worng. [03:59] shit .. I modified my preferenced file .. of course .. Im using apt-pinning :) [04:00] Martiini, You can find support for Intrepid in #ubuntu+1 === asac_ is now known as asac === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF [08:52] Aha. Conduit is uninstallable because of differences with our gnome-python-extras. Debian build a couple of extra binary packages from g-p-e (python-eggtrayicon and -gtkmozembed, specifically). [08:53] Is the correct fix here to adapt conduit to our gnome-python-extras, or to bring gnome-python-extras inline with Debian? [10:08] i got a quite technical question. i would like to add stuff in the /etc/hosts kindof file but in a directory..?. something like /etc/hosts.d/mypackage.conf [10:08] does this exists ? [10:09] why do you need to add something to /etc/hosts? [10:11] to add hostnames... [10:11] i dont understand [10:11] is there a way to get this conf.d or anything cleaner than a parse of /etc/hosts or echo myip myhost >>/etc/hosts ? [10:12] Why do you need to add a hostname? [10:13] afaik there is no mechanism to update /etc/hosts, besides the admin could use a dns server to configure host names [10:13] geser: ok thanks.... too bad. i will stick to echo >> and parse with sed then... [10:14] zorglu_: it's against the debian policy to change configurations files from other packages [10:14] I still don't understand why you need to add a hostname there during package installation [10:16] it is ultra long to explain. but dont worry me too i would prefere to avoid it if i could === RainCT_ is now known as RainCT === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === hunger_t is now known as hunger [11:31] Hi all. Is this a correct bug? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/218586 [11:31] Launchpad bug 218586 in sysvinit "Upgrade of avahi-daemon restarts it although it's desactivated" [Undecided,New] [11:32] there is a bug there, as the user deactivated a service, but gets it restarted on upgrade. However, I'm not sure if the bug is in the correct place. === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [11:57] tseliot: o/ [12:00] emgent: hey ;) === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [14:00] hello [14:07] * Hobbsee tries to remember. [14:07] what was the important thing about uploading imlib2? [14:09] does anyone know of any platforms to write applications in so they can easily have their 'actions' modified? [14:12] oops im looking for app development channel [14:14] bye bye, keep up the good works === StooJ is now known as StooJ_ === ogra_ is now known as ogra [16:01] bryce, around ? [17:46] fabbione: Hi my man! You wouldn't happen to be in Aarhus now, would you? [18:04] hi [18:04] what is /lib/modules/$kernelver/volatile? [18:09] modules which are built on your machine [18:09] I believe. [18:18] modules which are linked on your machine [18:27] where do those modules come from? [18:27] they aren't included in any package [18:28] theclaw: /lib/linux-restricted-modules/ [18:32] cjwatson: thanks [18:32] so these modules are copied from there upon boot-up? [18:33] (I heard this volatile directory gets emptied upon boot-up) [18:34] yes [18:34] hmm, why? [18:34] why not put them /lib/modules directly? [18:35] because we can't legally distribute them that way [18:37] cjwatson: why? What's the difference between putting them directly in /lib/modules, and putting them in /lib/restricted... ? [18:38] theclaw: if you look closely you'll see that there's more of a difference than just the location. [18:38] they don't get linked with the kernel until boot [18:38] they get compiled on the fly? [18:38] linked, not compiled [18:39] I'm confused, why is that a problem? Why do the have to be linked on each boot-up? [18:39] *they [18:39] debian for example also offers nvidia-kernel packages in non-free [18:40] which I have to compile with module-assistant, but not on each boot-up [18:40] therefore Debian is not distributing them pre-compiled and pre-linked [18:43] what's with http://packages.debian.org/etch/nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-6-686 for example? [18:43] this package includes 'nvidia.ko' [18:43] if they're distributing them, that's up to them, but note that Debian has considerably less money than Canonical and is not a significant lawsuit target [18:44] okay [18:44] sorry, I guess I'm a bit annoying by now, but why don't just link them *once*? [18:45] Upon installing the package, for example [18:45] wouldn't this be okay, legally? [18:45] I have no idea and am not particularly keen to investigate [18:45] okay [18:45] thanks for your answers [18:45] I don't think we should be putting significantly more effort into the organisation of the restricted modules than we do [18:47] okay === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey [18:53] I have a another completely concern; (#ubuntu couldn't help me on that, I think developers have more clue about this issue): [18:53] I just moved from debian to ubuntu, I made a backup of my home-dir beforehand, and restored it; Now, gnome has "visual effects" (not compiz, in fact the compiz process isn't running at all) [18:54] When I create a new user with a "clean homedirectory", there aren't any such effects by default [18:54] it looks like those "composite"-effects [18:54] (the window border is "shadowed", for example) [18:54] (-for example, it's the only effect I notice) [18:56] updated intrepid today for the first time since last weekend [18:56] and my .gtk-bookmarks file seemed to have reset. [18:56] hi.... I need help from developers... I know that a part of Xorg has a problem with abnt2 br layout... how did ubuntu fixed it? [18:56] anyone know anything about this? [18:56] diogo: try #ubuntu-x [19:03] (got it; there's a gconf-option for using metacity as a composite manager; don't know how that ever got enabled) === StooJ_ is now known as StooJ [19:29] * slangasek claims a 4-digit bug number, whee :) [19:33] slangasek: Had they used base-36 bug-IDs from the beginning, we’d be using 4-digit bug numbers up to the 1 679 615th bug. :-) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/malone/+spec/base-36-bug-ids [19:35] * slangasek blinks === doko_ is now known as doko === hunger_t is now known as hunger [21:27] Can someone give me any advice as to the next step for getting security fixes uploaded after producing debdiffs? I'm referring to bug #235915 [21:27] Launchpad bug 235915 in imlib2 "[CVE-2008-2426] imlib2 PNM and XPM buffer overflows" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/235915 [21:45] Laney: it's fine; the appropriate team is subscribed and will deal with it. [21:45] crimsun: OK that's great. I wasn't sure of the procedure with sponsorship [21:45] Tghanks for the information [21:46] -g [22:35] benc: Yay :-) === evalles_ is now known as keffie_jayx