/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/26/#ubuntu-mozillateam.txt

saivannasac : (The problem with wired network happens since I've installed 0.7.0, not just since I removed the existing network parameters)00:08
=== asac_ is now known as asac
YannigHello everybody :)09:49
YannigHi asac :)09:49
Yannigasac: I would like to thank you a lot: we've finished Firefox translation into Occitan thanks to Launchpad and your script.09:50
YannigWe would never have done it without...09:50
Yannig(now, I'm strongly waiting for Thunderbird and if you need a beta-tester, I'm here) :-)09:55
gnomefreak:( firefox is crashing on nvidia.com10:03
gnomefreakYannig: latest thunderbird 3 is on my ppa10:04
Yannigpo format?10:04
gnomefreakno10:05
gnomefreakYannig: what version of ff do you have (i need the ubuntu version)10:05
Yannig3.0.110:05
gnomefreakYannig: can you go to nvidia.com and let me know if it loads fully?10:06
YannigIn fact, I was talking to asac about his script to make it possible Firefox translation via Launchpad10:06
YannigYep, it works10:07
gnomefreakflash 9?10:07
YannigYes10:07
gnomefreakthought so10:07
YannigHum, I see you know how to package :)10:07
gnomefreakYannig: yes10:08
YannigWould you know how to make available for Ubuntu a hunspell Occitan dictionary?10:09
Yannighttp://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionaries/oc_FR.zip10:09
gnomefreakYannig: openoffice.org guys would be the ones to ask since oo.o is a script10:09
YannigWell, the dictionary is released under .aff and .dic files10:10
gnomefreakopen the zip get the source that you want it part of and add it to where the rest of the .xpi are10:10
gnomefreaknot xpi?10:11
YannigNo10:11
gnomefreakYannig: grabbing it now10:11
gnomefreakwell atleast trying to10:11
YannigI know how to use it for OpenOffice but I thought we could use these files to have the dictionary available for the rest of Ubuntu10:11
Yannig(as any hunspell dictionary in fac)10:11
Yannigt10:12
gnomefreakYannig: should beable to but that depends on how skilled you are10:12
YannigWell :P10:13
YannigAs a user, rather well10:13
YannigAs a developer, rather zero :p10:13
gnomefreakdamn im lagging bad10:14
YannigIf there are just instructions to follow, that's nice10:14
Yannig(otherwise...)10:14
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
gnomefreakYannig: remind me monday and ill see what i can do10:20
YannigThanks :)10:20
gnomefreakYannig: np10:20
gnomefreakbeb restart _dreams_ that they fixed logout10:21
gnomefreakill be back10:21
asacYannig: cool10:30
asacYannig: so did you test firefox and all?10:30
Yannigasac: Yep, it's tested and released10:33
asacYannig: released?10:34
asacwhere?10:34
asac;)10:34
Yannig("released" = I explained on a web page how to install the 2 xpi)10:34
Yannighttp://www.totenoc.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox10:34
asacYannig: err. i get to a "anti leech page"10:35
YannigWhat's that? :p10:35
asacYannig: i dont know10:35
Yannigwww.totenoc.org10:35
asaci click on your .xpi links and get no .xpi10:35
asacbut a page that reads:10:35
asacThis PHP Script has an Anti-Leech feature turned on.10:36
asacMake sure you are accessing this file directly from fichiers.totenoc.org10:36
asacIt seems you are trying to get it from http://www.totenoc.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox10:36
asacYour IP address has been logged.10:36
asac85.177.164.13210:36
YannigYep, the files are at http://fichiers.totenoc.org/10:37
YannigThe same for me :(10:37
YannigI'll have a look :p10:38
asacdoesnt work either :()10:38
YannigIt should be better now10:39
Yannigasac: I didn't know how that setting :p10:43
asacYannig: looks good10:43
asacYannig: not bad ;)10:43
asacYannig: so next step would be to become an official upstream translation  team ;)10:44
YannigYep...10:44
asacalready looked into that?10:44
YannigI send the CVS account request but they changed it meanwhile :p10:44
YannigI'll have to do it again :10:44
Yannig:p10:44
asacchanged what10:44
YannigSo, when are you going to release Thunderbird now? :D10:44
asac?10:44
YannigThe CVS account form10:45
asacYannig: they changed it in which way?10:45
YannigThey have another one10:45
asacYannig: which one is it?10:46
YannigLet me search :)10:47
asacindeed10:47
asachttp://www.mozilla.org/hacking/committer/10:47
asacits new10:47
gnomefre1kasac: gnash: when going to a site with "flash" the menus open under the flash picture10:50
gnomefre1kon 38610:50
gnomefre1kor whatever it is now10:50
YannigI'll do that this afternoon10:50
YannigMany users are really happy about that :)10:51
asacgnomefre1k: you use flashblock extension?10:51
gnomefre1kasac: no10:51
gnomefre1kshit my nick :(10:51
asacYannig: you probably could also do a combined firefox-oc.xpi10:51
asacfor those that dont have the xulrunner split10:51
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Yannigasac: How could I do that?10:52
asacput both .jar files in the .xpi and concat the chrome.manifest10:52
asacthen use the firefox install.rdf10:52
asacthat should be enough i hope10:52
YannigAny command to concat the chrome.manifest or should I do a copy-paste?10:54
asachttp://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/firefox-oc.xpi10:55
asacYannig: ^^10:56
YannigThanks :)10:56
gnomefreakasac: you did it that fast?10:56
asacYannig: you can use cat /path/to/file1 /path/to/file2 > /tmp/chrome.manifest10:56
asacgnomefreak: sure. its just 4 commands or so ;)10:56
gnomefreakah10:57
gnomefreaki downloaded it unpacked it and didnt see any .jars10:57
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/30520/10:57
asac;)10:57
Yannigasac: By the way, you may have to update the script so that it makes the xpi compatible with Firefox > 3.010:57
asacYannig: you have to get a new en-US.xpi from the translation export10:57
YannigFair enough10:58
asacthe maxVersion comes from the en-US.xpi exported from launchpad10:58
asacitst updated there to be 3.0.*10:58
Yannig(from language packs for ex ?)10:58
asacYannig: where did you get your current en-US.xpi from?10:58
YannigFrom languages packs :)10:58
asacyeah right10:59
Yannig(not more than one week ago)10:59
asacfrom launchpad though?10:59
YannigYep11:00
gnomefreakthat looks easy only it looks repetitive11:00
asacyes get a new one then11:00
asaci am sure its been there for 2 weeks now11:00
asacbut well11:00
asac;)11:00
asacYannig: you wont need a new one afterwards anymore11:00
asacwe opened up maxVersion now11:01
asacYannig: ad tbird. i dont think we will do tbird 2 in launchpad. we probably want tbird 3 there. but i have to think about it11:02
YannigFair enough :)11:02
asacYannig: ok. let me unblacklist your locale then11:04
asacwhats your language code?11:04
Yannigoc11:04
asacYannig: ok whitelisted and unblacklisted ;)11:06
asacdouble == safe ;)=11:06
YannigGreat :)11:06
asacYannig: i think every two weeks there are new language packs in the language-pack ppa11:06
asacyour translatinos should appear there for firefox11:06
YannigGreat11:06
asachttps://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive11:06
YannigI'm going to proofread everything, do a single xpi and submit it to https://addons.mozilla.org now :)11:07
asacYannig: does it work that way?11:07
asaci mean: submit the .xpi?11:07
asacsorry, i have no clue how the langpack translation contribution process works11:07
asacany help on that appreciated11:08
YannigIt would give the opportunity to have a langpack for those under Win and Mac11:08
asacYannig: can you find out how the procedure for becoming a "official" translation team is?11:09
asacand tell me?11:09
asacmaybe even document it11:09
asacespecially how the review is done. how to submit the results.11:09
Yannighttp://www.mozilla.org/projects/l10n/mlp_howto.html11:10
Yannig(but it's a very very very heavy procedure)11:10
armin76asac: bumb!11:12
asacYannig: so could you tell me what the next steps for you would be?11:12
asacwhat is missing?11:13
YannigCVS request11:13
Yannig(another one :p)11:13
asacarmin76: what piece of software needs a bumb now?11:13
YannigShowing the translation is done11:13
asacYannig: i dont see CVS request listed on that page ;)11:13
gnomefreakthat doesnt sem too bad11:13
asacit ends with "submitting"11:13
gnomefreaks/sem/seem11:14
gnomefreakyeah11:14
Yannig(I'll go and eat, see you)11:14
Yannighttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36734111:14
ubottuMozilla bug 367341 in Account Request: CVS "CVS account for Mozilla Occitan translations" [Normal,Assigned]11:14
gnomefreakhow hard can it be to submit it once you have 2 acks11:14
gnomefreakplus the 2 people you ask to comment11:14
gnomefreakpatches are easier11:15
asactoo bad that reed isnt here now11:15
gnomefreakit would be11:16
asacgnomefreak: what do you mean. you say getting CVS account is too easy?11:17
gnomefreaki guess i can use weekend to clean up bookmarks and do all the other little crap11:17
gnomefreakasac: why would you need one?11:17
gnomefreakif you contact MPL staff they host it11:17
asacgnomefreak: i need one ;)11:18
gnomefreakhttp://www.mozilla.org/projects/l10n/mlp_howto.html11:18
gnomefreakasac: ah11:18
asacfor landing security patches11:19
asacbut i was too lazy for about a year now to send my contributors agreement ;)11:19
gnomefreakasac: cant you set one up on your domain? or do you need to get a cvs account?11:19
asacbut i will be at firefox summit next week, so hopefully i can push that through there11:19
asacgnomefreak: setup what? cvs?11:19
gnomefreakyes11:19
asacno the idea is to get our patches into their cvs for the EOL 1.8.0 branch11:20
gnomefreakah11:20
asace.g. what we have in dapper11:20
gnomefreakasac: wont 1.8 be stopped pretty much next release of most apps11:21
asacyeah. then even 1.8 needs to be maintained11:21
asaci am currently into 1.8.011:21
gnomefreaki thought all were trying to et on the xulrunner1-1.9 train11:21
gnomefreakoh11:21
asacright. but not distros that released the old versions11:21
gnomefreaks/et/get11:21
asacI'll try to get more people on board for that during summit next week11:21
gnomefreakgood point11:22
gnomefreakasac: how many days?11:22
gnomefreakfor summit11:22
asacstarts on Tue (with monday evening a first event) and ends on Thu11:22
gnomefreakfun ;)11:22
asachttp://wiki.mozilla.org/Summit200811:22
gnomefreakyou leaving today?11:23
gnomefreakim sure flight is like 10+ hours11:23
gnomefreakfrom you11:23
gnomefreakits close to 14 hours for me to fly to venice11:24
asacyeah11:24
asac1.5 hours to london ... and then 11 hours11:24
asacconnection time in london only 1 hour ... so most likely i will  miss the vancouver flight11:25
asacgnomefreak: i am leaving tomorrow11:25
gnomefreakah11:25
gnomefreakthats gonna be a long day11:25
asacyeah. especially since i will miss my connection flight in london i am sure11:25
asacor at least my luggage will get lost :/11:26
asaci hate 11 hour flights for sure ;)11:26
asaccompletely painful11:26
gnomefreakyeah i knwo that feeling all too well but i stopped travelingabout 8 years ago11:26
asacwhy?11:26
gnomefreakasac: i went from sick to really sick11:27
asacso you cant fly anymore?11:27
gnomefreakand now im dealing with the side affects from diabetes but sugar is under control11:27
gnomefreakasac: i can but not that long11:27
asacbecause of diabetes?11:27
asacgnomefreak: so do we have a bad bug flood?11:31
asacafter the release of 3.0.1?11:31
asacgnomefreak: did you try to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/TriagersHandbook for state NEW and Incomplete?11:31
gnomefre1kthese frigging things suck11:35
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* gnomefreak needs to set up alias' for connection control11:35
gnomefreak06:27 <      gnomefreak > and now im dealing with the side affects from  diabetes but sugar is under control11:36
gnomefreak06:27 <      gnomefreak > asac: i can but not that long11:36
gnomefreak06:28 <      gnomefreak > curculation in legs i have to worry about11:36
gnomefreak06:28 <      gnomefreak > ohnly spelled right11:36
gnomefreak06:28 <      gnomefreak > only11:36
gnomefreak06:29 <      gnomefreak > wtf11:36
gnomefreakincase you missed it11:36
asacyeah i mssed it11:37
asacgnomefreak: too late to start doing sports?11:37
gnomefreakyeah too old but i do still work out11:38
asachope so11:38
gnomefreakyep i have to to keep sugar under control meds are not enough11:39
asaci have this letter i am supposed to print to show to immigration officers in case they ask11:46
* asac wonders if i can just show it on laptop to them ;)11:47
asacor if i really need to print it11:47
YannigI'm back :-)11:50
gnomefreakasac: print it11:50
gnomefreakits faster11:51
gnomefreakwasier11:51
gnomefreakeasier even11:51
ftahi11:56
ftait's never too late to do some sport11:56
armin76bumbing!11:57
ftalol11:57
asacits not easier to print for me ... have to go to copy shop which will honourably print my things for 1 EUR per page ;)12:03
asacbut ill do it anyway i guess12:03
gnomefreakno printer?12:03
asacyeah12:03
asacdumped it into the river12:04
gnomefreakah that would make printing harder12:04
asacyeah12:04
asacfta: so i guess you continued to do bike-sports ;)12:04
ftayep12:05
asacif you'd stay away one week longer i would said that you are participating in the tour-de-france ;)12:05
ftahehe12:05
ftai'd like to do it one day, for fun12:06
ftabut not in 3 weeks ;)12:06
asacyeah ;)12:06
fta3500km12:06
asaci think its obvious why everyone goes for doping12:06
asaci mean i couldnt do any single of the hill-days for sure12:07
ftayou probably could, taking your time12:08
asachmm. i really doubt it. i think some of the hills are just too much to go by bike. if i go by food then yes.12:08
ftawith my 40km/d, i do 3500 in 3 months.. hmm12:08
asachehe12:09
asaci was in the alps once with a racing bike and tried to climbed one hill.... i didnt succeed and had to step down at some point12:09
asacthe roman legions marched 40km a day when they went by "maxime intinere"12:10
asacfully packed of course12:10
ftamy 40km are 2*20 in 2*40 min, with traffic, 2*75 red-lights and tons of stop/priorities/...12:12
gnomefre1kasac: do you have master bug for the flash picture/movie being over the menu submenus of a site? gnash does this as well12:12
fta“By the year 2010... bandwidth for 20 homes will generate more traffic than entire Internet in 1995”12:13
asacyeah most likely12:13
fta"Global IP traffic to be 26 Exabytes per month in 2011"12:13
asaci think i already consumed more bandwidth then 1995 in my life12:13
asacquestion is will there by IPv6 by then?12:13
ftait's already there12:14
asacgnomefre1k: we had such a bug for flash12:14
asacflash always displayed on top12:14
ftavista has it ON by default12:14
asacgnomefre1k: ^^12:14
gnomefre1kasac: yeah i cant find it12:14
asacfta: when will my provider hand out ipv6 address to me?12:14
gnomefre1ki have one that needs to be marked as a dupe of the master one but searched all of flash bugs12:14
asacfta: i think at that point i'd say its there, but probably not before12:15
ftaasac, we are getting shorter on addresses, shorter than ever12:15
ftagetting short12:15
asacwe have been getting short for 5 years ;)12:15
asaclike on oil12:15
asacgnomefre1k: yeahb its really gone for whatever reason12:17
ftawith the growth of new services (mostly gaming, tv and 3G mobile), it's closer than ever12:17
asacgnomefre1k: maybe it was auto-closed?12:17
gnomefre1ki dont know i didnt get email tht it was autoclosed12:18
gnomefre1kor closed at all12:18
asaci hate launchpad bug searching12:18
asaccant be true12:18
asaci search for all states with terrm "html top"12:18
asacnothing12:18
asaceven searching for MASTER12:18
asacdidnt give me the bug12:18
gnomefre1kno it didnt have master name12:19
gnomefre1knone seem to anymore12:19
asacone bug is 4961312:20
asacits fix released for flashplugin-nonfree12:20
gnomefre1kbug 4961312:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 49613 in flashplugin-nonfree "Adobe Flash does not support WMODE (Flash content always rendered on top of web pages)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4961312:20
asacthat cant be true12:20
gnomefre1kits not12:20
asacsomeone closed it everywhere12:20
asactist that bug12:20
asacfor sure12:20
gnomefre1katleast for us its not fixed12:21
asacnspluginwrapper -> not fixed i am sure12:21
gnomefre1kand its not the same12:21
asacflashplugin-nonfree -> not fixed (not sure if its already in 10 beta)12:21
gnomefre1kwmode is crashing bug12:21
asacgnomefre1k: nope12:21
asacthats really the "Flash content always rendered on top of web pages"12:21
asacbug12:21
gnomefre1klet me check but i swear it was crashing atleast in 1012:21
asacgnomefre1k: even if it crashes, that bug above is the bug you were looking for12:22
asacplease add gnash there12:22
gnomefre1kk12:22
asacand figure out if flashplugin-nonfree in intrepid really fixes this12:23
asacthanks12:23
gnomefre1kthe wmode bug has dupes to it12:23
gnomefre1kthis bug is the one i had as dupe of it12:23
asacbug 49613 is clearly the master12:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 49613 in flashplugin-nonfree "[MASTER] Adobe Flash does not support WMODE (Flash content always rendered on top of web pages)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4961312:23
asacits old and has plenty of dupes12:23
gnomefre1kgnash was added earier this morning maybe an hur or so12:23
gnomefre1kok added12:24
asacgnomefre1k: bug 24930512:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249305 in gnash "Menu hidden behind other objects" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24930512:24
asacmark it a dupe then12:24
gnomefre1kthats mine12:24
gnomefre1kthe one i was talking about12:24
asacyeah dupe it into the grant master above12:25
gnomefre1kdoing12:25
gnomefre1kdone12:25
asacthx12:26
gnomefre1kasac: did you say nspluginwrapper wasnt fixed either?12:27
asacyes. its fixed upstrewam, but not in ubuntu12:27
gnomefre1ki dont use it so im not sure12:27
asacbug status appears to be ok for that12:27
gnomefre1kk12:27
gnomefre1khow its ubuntu task12:27
asacgnomefre1k: we have 301 incomplete bugs against firefox-3.0 package12:28
gnomefre1knot upstream task12:28
gnomefre1khmmmmm there are 2 nspluginwrapper tasks12:28
asacand 512 NEW bugs ...... OUCH!!!!!12:28
asacnow i see why we have 900+ bugs open12:29
asaccan we close 240 next week? ;)12:30
asacthat would bring us down to 70012:30
Nafalloasac: nice number! makes me thinks of memory sticks :-)12:30
asacyeah12:30
* Nafallo likes his memory ;-)12:31
asacNafallo: wanna close 240 bugs?12:31
asac;)12:31
asaci think your bug karma is far too low and could deserve some polish ;)12:31
Nafalloasac: I'm sure I can write a script... "Closed by evil troll! 55555" good as comment? ;-)12:31
asacwhy not. as long as its not me12:32
Nafallohehe12:32
asacfeel free to write a script that closes all bugs saying: "closing bug. if you really care, please reopne": )12:32
asaci think we would get rid of 30% of bugs in that way12:32
Nafallo"Closing bug. Use apt-get install epiphany-browser kthxbai!!!"12:33
Nafallo;-)12:33
asacNafallo: no please not ;)12:33
asacwe could reassign epiphany however asking them to verify if it exists there as well :)12:33
Nafallolol12:33
asacseb can probably deal better with bugs than me12:33
NafalloI'm still looking for that upgrade...12:34
Nafalloseb512 or seb1024 :-)12:34
asacthat would leave out 25612:34
Nafalloexactly12:35
Nafallo2048 should be able to do the whole distributing himself ;-)12:35
Nafallos/ng/on/12:35
asacthat would be great12:35
* fta leaving for the w-e.12:36
ftacu12:36
asachave fun12:36
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gnomefreakok now irssi work12:37
gnomefreakgnome term really needs to get fixed12:38
gnomefreaksorry gedit even12:38
Nafallognomefreak: terminator ftw :-)12:38
asaci am out for lunchtime12:39
gnomefreakok lets see if it works12:40
gnomefreaknow to figure out how to set a backup nick12:44
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asacso13:25
asaconline-checkin committed13:25
asaclets hope it works out well13:25
Britta_?question. I wonder if this is a known bug... I use FF3 on both my ubuntu 8.04 pcs. On both of them occasionally the browser screen 'pops out' to fill the entire monitor, covering top and bottom bars, and the top right hand icons for minimize, resize window and close window disappear.13:25
Britta_A reboot sometimes helps.13:26
asacoh its just 9h 20min from london to vancouver. thats fast13:26
Britta_F11 will retoggle the window back to normal size, but won't give me back the icons.13:26
asacBritta_: i have heard something similar13:27
asacBritta_: using desktop effects?13:27
Britta_hmm hang on :)13:27
Britta_normal13:27
asacdisable them and see if it goes away13:27
Britta_disable normal?13:28
asacdisable desktop effects13:28
asace.g. "none"13:28
Britta_ok thanks. will try that for a while.13:28
asacBritta_: let us know13:28
asacthere is a bug reported for something similar13:28
Britta_I will. thanks. will try it for some days, though.13:28
asaclet mee search for it13:28
asacstay ttuned13:29
Britta_yes :)13:29
thunderstruckok good it all works :)13:29
thunderstruckdamn this is more work than i remember13:30
asacBritta_: i think its 23590013:30
asacbug 23590013:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 235900 in compiz "firefox 3 displays full screen on start" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23590013:30
asacBritta_: there are demonstration videos attached13:30
* thunderstruck needs to figure out how to filter firefox bugs separately than backport bugs as well as flash ect ..13:31
Britta_thanks asac, will check it out.13:31
Britta_ah, are they saying it might not happen if I didn't happen to be a chicken running dual boot?13:33
asacBritta_: no it doesnt say that13:34
asacBritta_: only thing it says is that its easy to reproduce that way13:34
Britta_ok. /me does a search for a reading course.13:34
asachehe13:35
asacno ... bug text is usually hard to decipher. so dont be bothered13:35
Britta_asac :) will get back to this channel when I know if disabling effects works.13:37
gnomefreakwho am i this time?13:37
gnomefreakah cool13:38
asacoh nonono13:40
asacon Tue it will be 13 degree C in whisler13:40
asacand that during one of the 3 hots week here in hamburg summer13:40
asacshame13:40
gnomefreakasac: whats up with bug 251743 should this have reset itself to english by default?13:45
gnomefreakubottu: test13:46
gnomefreakhmmmmm13:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251743 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox not localized after 3.01 upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25174313:46
ubottuFailed!13:46
gnomefreakah just laggy as shit13:47
thunderstruckasac: bug 251743 is english set as default and set to it on purpose?13:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251743 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox not localized after 3.01 upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25174313:56
thunderstruckanyone on a Hardy system that they can check a firefox bug in?14:07
asacwhich one?14:09
thunderstruckasac: help > about should show normal someones is showing a pill size window with nothing on it14:10
thunderstruckbug 25182614:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251826 in firefox-3.0 "Help | About doesn't produce a vaild dialog" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25182614:10
thunderstruckit works here in Intrepid and Hardy chroot14:11
Nafallothunderstruck: wfm14:11
thunderstruckwfm?14:11
thunderstrucknm14:11
thunderstruckworks for me14:11
thunderstrucki have people telling bug reporters to remove firefox than reinstall14:13
asacthunderstruck: do achieve what?14:13
asacto archieve what?14:13
thunderstruckasac: fix a problem14:13
asacwhich problem?14:13
thunderstrucki told him to use new profile14:13
thunderstruckasac: hold on let me see if i can find bug14:13
thunderstruckbug 25185514:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 251855 in firefox-3.0 "The address bar will not take me a website i type in or select from the drop down menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25185514:14
thunderstruckgetting a few assertion bugs as well14:14
Jazzvaasac, could you take a look at my review and see if it's good :)? bug 24786714:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 247867 in torbutton "Please merge Torbutton 1.2.0~rc5-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24786714:45
asacJazzva: did we say that we want to drop ice* depends?14:47
JazzvaUmm.. I think we did14:47
Jazzvawe're not shipping ice{weasel,dove}14:47
JazzvaAt least, we said that we're changing Iceweasel/dove -> Firefox/Thunderbird in descriptions14:48
Jazzvathe depends line is already modified, so I think removing iceweasel won't produce more changes14:49
Jazzvaasac ^14:49
asacJazzva: ok. makes sense14:50
asacotoh, i dont really  mind for depends as long as ours are added14:50
Jazzvaasac, that's true. I just wanted to suggest to make clean depends :). Though, both ways will work :)14:51
Jazzvaasac, and please look at my suggestion to remove iceweasel-torbutton.* files. We don't have that package, so those files are garbage in our case. We add torbutton-extension.* files14:53
asacJazzva: did we use torbutton-extension already?14:54
asacwhy not "just" torbutton?14:54
Jazzvahmm noticed few more mistakes... depends should add firefox | firefox-3.0 | firefox-2...14:54
JazzvamaxVer is 3.0a1pre, so we should bump it and test if it's usable in 3.014:54
asacJazzva: i think its ok to also remove the iceweasel* debhelper files. in that way we will see a conflict which needs to be incorporated in our debhelper files14:54
asacso your suggestion is right14:55
Jazzvaasac, torbutton is fine by me... I think the change to torbutton-extension was done in some previous upload14:55
asacJazzva: ok. if we already have that binary package name then we should stick to it14:57
Jazzvahmm. this extension says it's compatible with tb up to 1.5... do we still ship that?14:57
asacwe ship tbird 1.5 in dapper + feisty14:58
Jazzvaasac, hmm... then this should be blocked in intrepid... maybe to test with bumped maxVer for TB too...14:58
asacJazzva: isnt there a better upstrewam .xpi available?14:59
asacin debian there is not tbird 1.5 either14:59
asacis it still torbutton?14:59
Jazzvadebian dropped icedove dep15:01
Jazzvathis is from debian's entry:     - remove compatibility with icedove, so drop the icedove-torbutton package.15:02
Jazzvamislim da onda mozemo i mi.. verovatno su testirali ...15:02
Jazzvadamn...15:03
Jazzva:)15:03
asacJazzva: ok15:04
JazzvaI think we can drop tb dep, if they did it in debian. But, maybe it will work with bumped maxVersion.15:04
asacyep15:04
JazzvaI'll post another comment15:04
asacJazzva: actually i think we shouldnt use "depends" at all ... rather "recommends"15:04
asacbut lets review that at some later point15:04
Jazzvayep15:04
asacJazzva: still on hardy?15:05
Jazzvayep :)15:05
JazzvaBut I regularly use my intrepid chroot :)15:06
Jazzvaasac, another comment added15:10
asacok, can you please upgrade to latest from network-manager PPA?15:11
Jazzvame?15:11
asaci think applet is still building, but should be there in a few ;)15:11
asacyes15:11
Jazzvaumm... after 5pm? :)15:11
asacwhat not ;)15:11
Jazzvais that ok? :)15:11
asacwhy not ;)15:12
asacfine15:12
Jazzvacool. will try it then after 5 :). just to finish something else :)15:12
asacyou have wireless?15:12
asacor just wired?15:12
Jazzvawired15:12
asack15:12
asacstill worth a shoot15:12
asacstill on NM 0.6?15:12
Jazzvai think15:12
asacJazzva: ok. maybe do a apt-get install --reinstall libnm-glib0 libnm-util0 network-manager wpasupplicant now :=15:13
asacso you have the current packages that will get replaced in apt cache ;)15:13
Jazzvaok15:13
Jazzva:)15:13
asaci updated the call for testing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=676992&page=1815:43
asacif you have results please comment there ;)15:43
asacsaivann: please test latest NM from PPA15:46
asaci upgraded it today15:46
asacmaybe your issues have improved15:46
asacsaivann: https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive15:46
armin76Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux alpha; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008072613 (Gentoo) Firefox/3.0.117:14
armin76asac: ^bumb!17:14
asaci dont have alpha ;)17:14
armin76you don't have anything :P17:14
asacexactly ;)17:14
Nafalloasac: you have Gentoo? :-)17:14
asacnope17:15
* armin76 checks if ppc still segfaults17:15
asacalpha must be quite noisy i guess ;)17:16
asacarmin76: what kind of branding is gentoo using? do you sneak in the official branding?17:18
armin76asac: the user can select it17:20
asacwill that download the bits from net or are you shipping the non-free icons and marks in sources?17:21
armin76user can select: minefield, iceweasel, or firefox17:21
armin76hrm? we use mozilla's tarball17:21
asacwhich is nonfree ;)17:21
asaclets see if vbox works again :/17:22
armin76well, i don't care :P17:22
asacyay! virtualbox works again17:22
asaci can finally boot debian :-D17:22
armin76omg debian :P17:23
asacme boots fedora 9 at the same time ;)17:23
asacthe debian login screen is nice ;) ... light blue17:24
armin76Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux ppc; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008071816 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.117:25
armin76omg bumb!17:25
armin76doesn't segfault :D17:25
asacarmin76: you can use it?17:25
armin76yep17:25
armin76i guess hardy segfaults as well :P17:26
asacthe fedora login screen sucks ;)17:26
asacit shakes while selecting users17:26
asacnot sure if that is ment to be a desktop effect ,)17:26
asachmm ... so how can i upgrade fedora?17:26
armin76bumb fedora17:27
asacoh pkgkit is going17:27
asaccurrently does its job17:27
asaclets wait17:27
asac;)17:27
armin76so whats your bet, will it segfault on hardy?17:28
asac_on_fedhe17:30
asac_on_fedhttp://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdesktopqf9.png17:30
asac_on_fedthats fedora17:30
* asac_on_fed bumbs 229 packages available for update ;)17:30
asacdebian looses. they dont even show a indication that there are updates available17:31
asacarmin76: 3.0.1? not sure. i think so17:34
armin76okay, sparc+glibc-2.8 still sigbus17:39
asacso its libc?17:39
armin76uh, no17:39
asacno?17:39
armin763.0.1 sigbuses, 3.0 doesn't17:39
asache17:40
armin76with glibc-2.6 or 2.8, it doesn't matter17:40
asacsounds random17:40
asacah ok we are on sparc17:40
asacdidnt see that17:40
armin76oh damn, i can't test17:47
asactoo hot or what?17:47
armin76ports.ubuntu.com doesn't have hardy-updates in the Release file17:48
armin76so it doesn't let me add it to sources.list17:48
asacsounds like non-sense ;)17:48
asaclpia at least has -updates17:48
armin76yeah, the dirs exist, but they aren't on the Release  file17:49
armin76sec17:49
asacarmin76: how about http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/hardy-updates/17:49
asac?17:49
asachttp://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/hardy-updates/Release17:49
asacwhich arch is missing?17:49
armin76http://rafb.net/p/ZVy55G96.html17:50
asacarmin76: what do you have in your sources.list?17:51
armin76deb http://ports.ubuntu.com hardy main universe hardy-updates17:52
asacthats wrong17:53
asacbumb!17:53
asacduplicate the original line and simply do s/hardy/hardy-updates/ on the new line17:54
asacsame for security17:54
asacarmin76: ^17:54
armin76lol17:55
armin76yay17:55
asacalso repeat and do17:55
asacs/hardy/hardy-proposed/17:55
asacto get the latest crack17:55
armin76k, thanks17:55
armin76i'm not used to debian :P17:55
armin76seems to work fine as well :)17:57
asacgood crack then17:58
asacno more bustage17:58
asacyay17:59
asacarmin76: bumb network-manager ;)17:59
asacdoes gentoo have NM at all?18:00
armin76yeah18:00
asacgood shape?18:00
armin76no idea, i don't use it18:00
armin76 networkmanager-0.6.5_p20070823[0]: amd64 ppc x86 networkmanager-0.6.6[0]: ~amd64 ~ppc ~x8618:01
asacwhat does that mean?18:02
armin76still, there's some bustage, sparc sigbused on hardy before 1.9.0.118:02
armin76that means the latest version is 0.6.618:02
asacarmin76: but its gone now ... so who cares?18:02
asacah ok18:02
asacget the maintainer in here. otherwise you will be late on 0.7 ;)18:03
asacarmin76: how does gentoo change the resolv.conf when roaming? do you have some specific mechanism for it?18:04
armin76roaming?18:04
asacyeah moving with your laptop from network to other networks18:04
armin76hrm...i think thats done with openresolv18:05
asacwhat does that do?18:05
armin76http://roy.marples.name/node/34318:06
armin76not sure if thats what you mean18:06
armin76if it isn't, better ask in #gentoo, i have no clue :)18:06
asacah its resolvconf18:07
asacwe have that too18:07
asacarmin76: does it replace /etc/resolv.conf with a link?18:07
asacarmin76: can you please post resolvconf --help18:07
asac?18:07
armin76yeah, its another implementation of resolvconf :P18:07
asaci wonder if its the same interface as in debian18:07
armin76http://rafb.net/p/uQ4nTa70.html18:08
asachmm18:10
asacwonder if my nm resolvconf patch works on gentoo as well18:10
asacfirst i have to find that patch again ;)18:12
Jazzvaasac, sorry... I'm gonna test NM now :)18:13
asacJazzva: thats ok ;)18:15
asacJazzva: you are still online ... is that good news?18:23
asac;)18:23
Jazzvaasac, I don't get it? :)18:24
Jazzvaaaah18:24
JazzvaI get it18:24
Jazzvano... I'm unable to install from ppa in hardy ...18:24
Jazzvaasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/30615/18:24
asacJazzva: universe18:26
asacJazzva: and you also have to upgrade network-manager-gnome18:26
asacJazzva: just run apt-get upgrade18:27
asac;)18:27
Jazzvanow let's wait a bit :)18:27
Jazzvawoah18:27
Jazzva480MB... for only 120 packages?18:27
Jazzva*sniff*18:27
asacJazzva: you added -proposed?18:27
asacJazzva: just type sudo apt-get install network-manager18:28
asac;)18:28
Jazzvayeees... :)18:28
asacthat should pull in all that is required for this upgrade18:28
asacJazzva: remove -proposed ;)18:28
* Jazzva needs to remove KDE.18:28
JazzvaI never use it, and I still keep it... hmph18:28
asacthats certainly a wise decision18:28
asacto increase flexibility in terms of instant upgrades18:28
Jazzvato remove hardy-proposed?18:29
asacno ... i think removing kde should be enough18:29
Jazzvahehe :)18:29
asacok i am moving to dinner ;)18:30
Jazzvahave fun :)18:31
Jazzvai'm removing KDE. Yay :D18:31
Jazzvayay, nm installs :)19:18
Jazzvaam I online?19:18
Jazzvayay, I'm online :)19:19
Jazzvaasac, it works... I'll see if I have something to test :)19:19
asacJazzva: good19:50
asacthanks19:50
Jazzvaasac, seems to be working ok. I can't turn it off by unchecking "Enable networking" in right-click menu. Probably because it switched my network to roaming mode.20:17
asacJazzva: do you have something in /etc/network/interfaces?20:18
Jazzvaauto lo20:18
Jazzvaiface lo inet loopback20:18
Jazzvaasac ^20:18
asacand you cant disable networking?20:18
asacwhat happens if you try to do that?20:19
Jazzvalemme test once more20:19
Jazzvadisabled... do you read me?20:19
asacyeah20:19
asacstrange20:19
Jazzvaand now I enabled it back20:19
asacdoes the NM icon pretend its disconnected?20:19
Jazzvano20:20
JazzvaI'm switching to DHCP20:20
asacand when right clicking networking is still checked?20:20
Jazzvanope, it's unchecke20:20
Jazzvad20:20
asacdid you upgrade the -gnome applet?20:20
asacand restart it ;)20:21
Jazzvayes20:21
Jazzvarestart? I think it auto-restarted it20:21
asacno20:21
asacthe applet is still the same20:21
asac;)20:21
asacsee right click -> about for version20:21
asacshould be 0.7.020:21
Jazzvaaaah20:21
Jazzva:)20:21
Jazzvaeasy way to restart an applet?20:21
Jazzva:)20:21
asackillall nm-applet20:21
asacthen start nm-applet ;)20:21
asaci see that thats a problem though20:22
asacnot sure how to best do it :/20:22
Jazzvaok, i'll try now20:22
Jazzvamaybe to put in postinst script?20:22
asacand then?20:22
Jazzvakillall nm-applet ; nm-applet :)?20:22
asacthe applet is started by the user20:22
asac;)20:22
asacnot by root20:22
Jazzvahmm..20:22
asacso if you have multiple people logged in, all need to be restarted20:22
Jazzvaok, i'll try to disconnect now20:23
asaci think the best way is to implement a sigstop handler or something that restarts it20:23
asacbut well ;)20:23
Jazzvadisconnected20:23
asacits too late for hardy users for that20:23
Jazzvaok... I think I was disconnected... couldn't ping google20:23
asacso most likely we need to display: "restart required" notification20:23
Jazzvamhm20:24
Jazzvalike for firefox...20:24
asacJazzva: good20:24
asacJazzva: have you seen the latest and greates from xionox?20:24
Jazzvawow... it looks different :)20:24
Jazzvacool :)20:24
Jazzvaplugin finder?20:24
asacno restart notifier ;)20:24
Jazzvaor in NM?20:24
asache has two branches: pluginf finder and restart notification20:24
JazzvaI don't think so... It looked the same as before...20:24
asacJazzva: get it ;) ... bzr branch lp:~xionox/ubufox/restart.notifier20:25
Jazzvaok20:25
asacthen you can  sudo touch /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/firefox-3.0-restart-required20:26
asacand see a restart notification in firefox ;)20:26
asacwith a restart button :-D20:26
Jazzvaok, branching :)20:26
Jazzvaoooh... pretty :)20:31
Jazzvajust a little correction "has been"20:32
Jazzvayeah, it's much better than pop-up baloon in gnome-panel :)20:33
asacright. english is bogus ,)20:34
asacthis still has glitches imo. for instance it doesnt show up in multiple windows properly20:34
asacfurther it misbehaves if you do two updates in a row.20:34
Jazzvatwo updates in a row? why would it misbehave?20:34
asace.g. when you ignore the notification (close it) and you apt-get install --reinstall firefox-3.0 it wont pop up20:34
asacJazzva: just try20:35
Jazzvaahh...20:35
asac1st. open two or more windows20:35
asacthen touch the file20:35
Jazzvait already checked that the file is present20:35
asacits random for me20:35
asacsometimes all windows display natification ... but most of the time just one window20:35
Jazzvamaybe a for loop for all windows :)?20:35
asacwell.. the java script is run for each window20:35
Jazzva(i have no idea if that's possible)20:35
asacbut apparent gBrowser is the same20:36
Jazzvahmm... though it closes all windows20:36
asacyes sure20:36
Jazzvabut, right... it would be better if it was present in both windows20:36
asacanother bug. we should try to "save session"20:36
asacnot just restart20:37
Jazzvawell, there should be a procedure that firefox uses20:37
asacsure20:37
Jazzvait asks me to save tabs, or to just quit when I have multiple tabs open20:37
asacright ;)20:37
Jazzvahmm...20:38
asacso how to call it ;)20:38
asaci thihnk addons dialog does it wrong too20:38
Jazzvareplace Restart button20:38
asaciirc we have bugs that complain about restart after extension install doesnt save tabs20:38
Jazzvaand offer "Restart and save session", "Just restart"... something like that20:38
Jazzvalike they did with "save password" dialof in fx2 -> fx3 :)20:39
Jazzva*dialog20:39
Jazzvayou know fx code :). I suppose you know where to look for piece of code that offers the restart and save/don't save, so we can reuse it :)20:40
Jazzvaand adapt it to show it in the yellow bar :)20:40
asacok i think we have to emit a signal: quit-application-requested20:40
asacthen browser will pop up the dialog and do the rest20:40
Jazzvait's easier than I thought :)20:41
asacJazzva: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30647/20:43
asaci think that code should do it20:43
Jazzvawe can try it20:44
asachmm20:44
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/30649/20:44
asacmaybe that?20:44
Jazzvaanyway, I'll be off in few minutes to dinner :)20:44
Jazzva(though, not right now)20:44
Jazzvai'm looking at mdc20:48
Jazzvahmm... yes, with eAttemptQuit should be good20:51
Jazzvamaybe "eAttempQuit | eRestart" to make sure it will restart20:51
Jazzvaasac, as mentioned here http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/nsIAppStartup#Constants20:51
Jazzvaoff to dinner. bbl20:53
asacyeah well. i think there are bugs in it ;)21:49
asaci hope its not ubuntu specific21:49
Jazzvaback... Hmm, I can try it now...21:53
asactwo bad firefox from upstreawm doesnt start here at all21:53
asacwierd21:54
asacurgh21:54
asacJazzva: can you start upstream build in intrepid in a reasonable way21:54
asacfor me it has no theme and doesnt go online :/21:55
Jazzvaupstream build? oh, downloaded directly from mozilla?21:55
Jazzvadunno... i can try21:55
asacyeah21:55
asacit doesnt work here :/21:55
asaci think because of amd6421:55
Jazzvaasac, works for me in (non-updated) intrepid chroot22:02
Jazzvalet me update it22:02
asacJazzva: so if you disable/enable an extensions in addons there is the restart button22:07
asacif you hit that will your session be restored?22:08
asace.g. tabs, windows22:08
Jazzvalet me check22:08
Jazzvain upstream or our version?22:09
Jazzvaasac ^22:09
asacin upstream22:09
asacin our version it doesnt work for me22:09
asacmaybe try that too ;)22:10
Jazzvaworks for me :P22:11
Jazzvaasac, your computer is bad. that's the problem :P22:11
Jazzvain our version22:11
asacJazzva: hmm22:12
asachmm22:12
asachmm22:12
Jazzva:P22:13
asacJazzva: good stuff22:13
asacnow it works fine here ;)22:14
asacwith a fresh profile22:14
asachell whats going on22:14
Jazzvaheh..22:14
asacha22:14
asacprefs.js is own by root :(22:14
asaccool that was it22:16
Jazzvayay :)22:16
asacfirefox should really really warn users in case it cannot write prefs.js22:16
asacor any other profile file22:16
asaci think it shouldnt start with the Profile parent folder not being owned by itself22:17
asacso root would just refuse to start with $HOME=/home/asac/22:17
Jazzvaright22:20
Jazzvaasac, we don't need to change restart function :). It was caused by your prefs.js, I think ;)23:01
asacJazzva: really?23:02
JazzvaI just restarted and it resumed my session23:03
asachmm23:03
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/30691/23:04
asactry that please23:04
asactell me if you think its better to get that dialog before23:04
asacok i think i have to pack my bag :(23:07
Jazzvaasac, ok, I'll try it now23:15
Jazzvaasac, I'm not getting any dialog23:29
jdhoreI get an error whenever i try to build firefox 3.0.1-ubuntu2:23:30
Jazzvaasac, but I think restarting without a dialog is ok. User is expecting to get back his session on restart.23:30
jdhorecat debian/ubuntu-useragent.js.tmpl | sed \23:30
jdhore-e 's/@VENDOR@/'`lsb_release -i -s`'/g' \23:30
jdhore-e 's/@VENDOR_SUB@/'`lsb_release -r -s`'/g' \23:30
jdhore-e 's/@VENDOR_COMMENT@/'`lsb_release -c -s`'/g' \23:30
jdhore> debian/firefox-3.0/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.1/defaults/preferences/ubuntu-useragent.js23:30
jdhoresed: -e expression #2, char 24: unknown option to `s'23:30
JazzvaAt least that seems logical to me23:30
asacjdhore: all build-depends installed?23:32
jdhoreasac, yes23:32
asacbut it worked in ppa23:32
asacor didnt it?23:32
jdhorei use cowbuilder which satisfies deps or the build doesn't start23:32
asacis that hardy?23:33
jdhoreno, Debian23:34
jdhorethat's why...you all borked the build-depends23:38
jdhoreIt seems that any Ubuntu dev can't do anything correctly.....23:38
asacjdhore: what is correctly here?23:43
asacdoesnt lsb_release -c -s work for you?23:46
asacjdhore: try to use lsb as build-depends and not lsb-release23:47
jdhoremeh23:47
jdhoreI removed it23:47
asacok23:47
asacuse lsb-release, lsb-base23:47
asacjdhore: if that helps you i can probably add it23:48
asacJazzva: right. but we should tell user that there is the risk of loosing session23:50
asacits about "really? cancel or restart"23:50
asacnot save/not-save23:51
JazzvaFirefox has upgraded. Do you want to restart? There is a possibility of losing your data... --- Restart ... X23:57
Jazzvayellow bar :)23:57
Jazzvaasac ^23:57
asacmaybe, but still i think the behaviour should match the behaviour we get in addons "restart" notification23:58
asacimo23:58
JazzvaWhat do we get there?23:59
JazzvaIIRC, it just restarted for me... presented a yellow bar. that's it23:59
asacthe dialog that is supposed to pop up with my patch ;)23:59
asacyou get a warning dialog whch you can flag as "dont bother again"23:59

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