[00:08] <saivann> asac : (The problem with wired network happens since I've installed 0.7.0, not just since I removed the existing network parameters)
[09:49] <Yannig> Hello everybody :)
[09:49] <Yannig> Hi asac :)
[09:50] <Yannig> asac: I would like to thank you a lot: we've finished Firefox translation into Occitan thanks to Launchpad and your script.
[09:50] <Yannig> We would never have done it without...
[09:55] <Yannig> (now, I'm strongly waiting for Thunderbird and if you need a beta-tester, I'm here) :-)
[10:03] <gnomefreak> :( firefox is crashing on nvidia.com
[10:04] <gnomefreak> Yannig: latest thunderbird 3 is on my ppa
[10:04] <Yannig> po format?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> no
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Yannig: what version of ff do you have (i need the ubuntu version)
[10:05] <Yannig> 3.0.1
[10:06] <gnomefreak> Yannig: can you go to nvidia.com and let me know if it loads fully?
[10:06] <Yannig> In fact, I was talking to asac about his script to make it possible Firefox translation via Launchpad
[10:07] <Yannig> Yep, it works
[10:07] <gnomefreak> flash 9?
[10:07] <Yannig> Yes
[10:07] <gnomefreak> thought so
[10:07] <Yannig> Hum, I see you know how to package :)
[10:08] <gnomefreak> Yannig: yes
[10:09] <Yannig> Would you know how to make available for Ubuntu a hunspell Occitan dictionary?
[10:09] <Yannig> http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionaries/oc_FR.zip
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Yannig: openoffice.org guys would be the ones to ask since oo.o is a script
[10:10] <Yannig> Well, the dictionary is released under .aff and .dic files
[10:10] <gnomefreak> open the zip get the source that you want it part of and add it to where the rest of the .xpi are
[10:11] <gnomefreak> not xpi?
[10:11] <Yannig> No
[10:11] <gnomefreak> Yannig: grabbing it now
[10:11] <gnomefreak> well atleast trying to
[10:11] <Yannig> I know how to use it for OpenOffice but I thought we could use these files to have the dictionary available for the rest of Ubuntu
[10:11] <Yannig> (as any hunspell dictionary in fac)
[10:12] <Yannig> t
[10:12] <gnomefreak> Yannig: should beable to but that depends on how skilled you are
[10:13] <Yannig> Well :P
[10:13] <Yannig> As a user, rather well
[10:13] <Yannig> As a developer, rather zero :p
[10:14] <gnomefreak> damn im lagging bad
[10:14] <Yannig> If there are just instructions to follow, that's nice
[10:14] <Yannig> (otherwise...)
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Yannig: remind me monday and ill see what i can do
[10:20] <Yannig> Thanks :)
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Yannig: np
[10:21] <gnomefreak> beb restart _dreams_ that they fixed logout
[10:21] <gnomefreak> ill be back
[10:30] <asac> Yannig: cool
[10:30] <asac> Yannig: so did you test firefox and all?
[10:33] <Yannig> asac: Yep, it's tested and released
[10:34] <asac> Yannig: released?
[10:34] <asac> where?
[10:34] <asac> ;)
[10:34] <Yannig> ("released" = I explained on a web page how to install the 2 xpi)
[10:34] <Yannig> http://www.totenoc.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox
[10:35] <asac> Yannig: err. i get to a "anti leech page"
[10:35] <Yannig> What's that? :p
[10:35] <asac> Yannig: i dont know
[10:35] <Yannig> www.totenoc.org
[10:35] <asac> i click on your .xpi links and get no .xpi
[10:35] <asac> but a page that reads:
[10:36] <asac> This PHP Script has an Anti-Leech feature turned on.
[10:36] <asac> Make sure you are accessing this file directly from fichiers.totenoc.org
[10:36] <asac> It seems you are trying to get it from http://www.totenoc.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox
[10:36] <asac> Your IP address has been logged.
[10:36] <asac> 85.177.164.132
[10:37] <Yannig> Yep, the files are at http://fichiers.totenoc.org/
[10:37] <Yannig> The same for me :(
[10:38] <Yannig> I'll have a look :p
[10:38] <asac> doesnt work either :()
[10:39] <Yannig> It should be better now
[10:43] <Yannig> asac: I didn't know how that setting :p
[10:43] <asac> Yannig: looks good
[10:43] <asac> Yannig: not bad ;)
[10:44] <asac> Yannig: so next step would be to become an official upstream translation  team ;)
[10:44] <Yannig> Yep...
[10:44] <asac> already looked into that?
[10:44] <Yannig> I send the CVS account request but they changed it meanwhile :p
[10:44] <Yannig> I'll have to do it again :
[10:44] <Yannig> :p
[10:44] <asac> changed what
[10:44] <Yannig> So, when are you going to release Thunderbird now? :D
[10:44] <asac> ?
[10:45] <Yannig> The CVS account form
[10:45] <asac> Yannig: they changed it in which way?
[10:45] <Yannig> They have another one
[10:46] <asac> Yannig: which one is it?
[10:47] <Yannig> Let me search :)
[10:47] <asac> indeed
[10:47] <asac> http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/committer/
[10:47] <asac> its new
[10:50] <gnomefre1k> asac: gnash: when going to a site with "flash" the menus open under the flash picture
[10:50] <gnomefre1k> on 386
[10:50] <gnomefre1k> or whatever it is now
[10:50] <Yannig> I'll do that this afternoon
[10:51] <Yannig> Many users are really happy about that :)
[10:51] <asac> gnomefre1k: you use flashblock extension?
[10:51] <gnomefre1k> asac: no
[10:51] <gnomefre1k> shit my nick :(
[10:51] <asac> Yannig: you probably could also do a combined firefox-oc.xpi
[10:51] <asac> for those that dont have the xulrunner split
[10:52] <Yannig> asac: How could I do that?
[10:52] <asac> put both .jar files in the .xpi and concat the chrome.manifest
[10:52] <asac> then use the firefox install.rdf
[10:52] <asac> that should be enough i hope
[10:54] <Yannig> Any command to concat the chrome.manifest or should I do a copy-paste?
[10:55] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/firefox-oc.xpi
[10:56] <asac> Yannig: ^^
[10:56] <Yannig> Thanks :)
[10:56] <gnomefreak> asac: you did it that fast?
[10:56] <asac> Yannig: you can use cat /path/to/file1 /path/to/file2 > /tmp/chrome.manifest
[10:56] <asac> gnomefreak: sure. its just 4 commands or so ;)
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:57] <gnomefreak> i downloaded it unpacked it and didnt see any .jars
[10:57] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30520/
[10:57] <asac> ;)
[10:57] <Yannig> asac: By the way, you may have to update the script so that it makes the xpi compatible with Firefox > 3.0
[10:57] <asac> Yannig: you have to get a new en-US.xpi from the translation export
[10:58] <Yannig> Fair enough
[10:58] <asac> the maxVersion comes from the en-US.xpi exported from launchpad
[10:58] <asac> itst updated there to be 3.0.*
[10:58] <Yannig> (from language packs for ex ?)
[10:58] <asac> Yannig: where did you get your current en-US.xpi from?
[10:58] <Yannig> From languages packs :)
[10:59] <asac> yeah right
[10:59] <Yannig> (not more than one week ago)
[10:59] <asac> from launchpad though?
[11:00] <Yannig> Yep
[11:00] <gnomefreak> that looks easy only it looks repetitive
[11:00] <asac> yes get a new one then
[11:00] <asac> i am sure its been there for 2 weeks now
[11:00] <asac> but well
[11:00] <asac> ;)
[11:00] <asac> Yannig: you wont need a new one afterwards anymore
[11:01] <asac> we opened up maxVersion now
[11:02] <asac> Yannig: ad tbird. i dont think we will do tbird 2 in launchpad. we probably want tbird 3 there. but i have to think about it
[11:02] <Yannig> Fair enough :)
[11:04] <asac> Yannig: ok. let me unblacklist your locale then
[11:04] <asac> whats your language code?
[11:04] <Yannig> oc
[11:06] <asac> Yannig: ok whitelisted and unblacklisted ;)
[11:06] <asac> double == safe ;)=
[11:06] <Yannig> Great :)
[11:06] <asac> Yannig: i think every two weeks there are new language packs in the language-pack ppa
[11:06] <asac> your translatinos should appear there for firefox
[11:06] <Yannig> Great
[11:06] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive
[11:07] <Yannig> I'm going to proofread everything, do a single xpi and submit it to https://addons.mozilla.org now :)
[11:07] <asac> Yannig: does it work that way?
[11:07] <asac> i mean: submit the .xpi?
[11:07] <asac> sorry, i have no clue how the langpack translation contribution process works
[11:08] <asac> any help on that appreciated
[11:08] <Yannig> It would give the opportunity to have a langpack for those under Win and Mac
[11:09] <asac> Yannig: can you find out how the procedure for becoming a "official" translation team is?
[11:09] <asac> and tell me?
[11:09] <asac> maybe even document it
[11:09] <asac> especially how the review is done. how to submit the results.
[11:10] <Yannig> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/l10n/mlp_howto.html
[11:10] <Yannig> (but it's a very very very heavy procedure)
[11:12] <armin76> asac: bumb!
[11:12] <asac> Yannig: so could you tell me what the next steps for you would be?
[11:13] <asac> what is missing?
[11:13] <Yannig> CVS request
[11:13] <Yannig> (another one :p)
[11:13] <asac> armin76: what piece of software needs a bumb now?
[11:13] <Yannig> Showing the translation is done
[11:13] <asac> Yannig: i dont see CVS request listed on that page ;)
[11:13] <gnomefreak> that doesnt sem too bad
[11:13] <asac> it ends with "submitting"
[11:14] <gnomefreak> s/sem/seem
[11:14] <gnomefreak> yeah
[11:14] <Yannig> (I'll go and eat, see you)
[11:14] <Yannig> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367341
[11:14] <gnomefreak> how hard can it be to submit it once you have 2 acks
[11:14] <gnomefreak> plus the 2 people you ask to comment
[11:15] <gnomefreak> patches are easier
[11:15] <asac> too bad that reed isnt here now
[11:16] <gnomefreak> it would be
[11:17] <asac> gnomefreak: what do you mean. you say getting CVS account is too easy?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> i guess i can use weekend to clean up bookmarks and do all the other little crap
[11:17] <gnomefreak> asac: why would you need one?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> if you contact MPL staff they host it
[11:18] <asac> gnomefreak: i need one ;)
[11:18] <gnomefreak> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/l10n/mlp_howto.html
[11:18] <gnomefreak> asac: ah
[11:19] <asac> for landing security patches
[11:19] <asac> but i was too lazy for about a year now to send my contributors agreement ;)
[11:19] <gnomefreak> asac: cant you set one up on your domain? or do you need to get a cvs account?
[11:19] <asac> but i will be at firefox summit next week, so hopefully i can push that through there
[11:19] <asac> gnomefreak: setup what? cvs?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:20] <asac> no the idea is to get our patches into their cvs for the EOL 1.8.0 branch
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:20] <asac> e.g. what we have in dapper
[11:21] <gnomefreak> asac: wont 1.8 be stopped pretty much next release of most apps
[11:21] <asac> yeah. then even 1.8 needs to be maintained
[11:21] <asac> i am currently into 1.8.0
[11:21] <gnomefreak> i thought all were trying to et on the xulrunner1-1.9 train
[11:21] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:21] <asac> right. but not distros that released the old versions
[11:21] <gnomefreak> s/et/get
[11:21] <asac> I'll try to get more people on board for that during summit next week
[11:22] <gnomefreak> good point
[11:22] <gnomefreak> asac: how many days?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> for summit
[11:22] <asac> starts on Tue (with monday evening a first event) and ends on Thu
[11:22] <gnomefreak> fun ;)
[11:22] <asac> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Summit2008
[11:23] <gnomefreak> you leaving today?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> im sure flight is like 10+ hours
[11:23] <gnomefreak> from you
[11:24] <gnomefreak> its close to 14 hours for me to fly to venice
[11:24] <asac> yeah
[11:24] <asac> 1.5 hours to london ... and then 11 hours
[11:25] <asac> connection time in london only 1 hour ... so most likely i will  miss the vancouver flight
[11:25] <asac> gnomefreak: i am leaving tomorrow
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:25] <gnomefreak> thats gonna be a long day
[11:25] <asac> yeah. especially since i will miss my connection flight in london i am sure
[11:26] <asac> or at least my luggage will get lost :/
[11:26] <asac> i hate 11 hour flights for sure ;)
[11:26] <asac> completely painful
[11:26] <gnomefreak> yeah i knwo that feeling all too well but i stopped travelingabout 8 years ago
[11:26] <asac> why?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> asac: i went from sick to really sick
[11:27] <asac> so you cant fly anymore?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> and now im dealing with the side affects from diabetes but sugar is under control
[11:27] <gnomefreak> asac: i can but not that long
[11:27] <asac> because of diabetes?
[11:31] <asac> gnomefreak: so do we have a bad bug flood?
[11:31] <asac> after the release of 3.0.1?
[11:31] <asac> gnomefreak: did you try to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/TriagersHandbook for state NEW and Incomplete?
[11:35] <gnomefre1k> these frigging things suck
[11:35]  * gnomefreak needs to set up alias' for connection control
[11:36] <gnomefreak> 06:27 <      gnomefreak > and now im dealing with the side affects from  diabetes but sugar is under control
[11:36] <gnomefreak> 06:27 <      gnomefreak > asac: i can but not that long
[11:36] <gnomefreak> 06:28 <      gnomefreak > curculation in legs i have to worry about
[11:36] <gnomefreak> 06:28 <      gnomefreak > ohnly spelled right
[11:36] <gnomefreak> 06:28 <      gnomefreak > only
[11:36] <gnomefreak> 06:29 <      gnomefreak > wtf
[11:36] <gnomefreak> incase you missed it
[11:37] <asac> yeah i mssed it
[11:37] <asac> gnomefreak: too late to start doing sports?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> yeah too old but i do still work out
[11:38] <asac> hope so
[11:39] <gnomefreak> yep i have to to keep sugar under control meds are not enough
[11:46] <asac> i have this letter i am supposed to print to show to immigration officers in case they ask
[11:47]  * asac wonders if i can just show it on laptop to them ;)
[11:47] <asac> or if i really need to print it
[11:50] <Yannig> I'm back :-)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> asac: print it
[11:51] <gnomefreak> its faster
[11:51] <gnomefreak> wasier
[11:51] <gnomefreak> easier even
[11:56] <fta> hi
[11:56] <fta> it's never too late to do some sport
[11:57] <armin76> bumbing!
[11:57] <fta> lol
[12:03] <asac> its not easier to print for me ... have to go to copy shop which will honourably print my things for 1 EUR per page ;)
[12:03] <asac> but ill do it anyway i guess
[12:03] <gnomefreak> no printer?
[12:03] <asac> yeah
[12:04] <asac> dumped it into the river
[12:04] <gnomefreak> ah that would make printing harder
[12:04] <asac> yeah
[12:04] <asac> fta: so i guess you continued to do bike-sports ;)
[12:05] <fta> yep
[12:05] <asac> if you'd stay away one week longer i would said that you are participating in the tour-de-france ;)
[12:05] <fta> hehe
[12:06] <fta> i'd like to do it one day, for fun
[12:06] <fta> but not in 3 weeks ;)
[12:06] <asac> yeah ;)
[12:06] <fta> 3500km
[12:06] <asac> i think its obvious why everyone goes for doping
[12:07] <asac> i mean i couldnt do any single of the hill-days for sure
[12:08] <fta> you probably could, taking your time
[12:08] <asac> hmm. i really doubt it. i think some of the hills are just too much to go by bike. if i go by food then yes.
[12:08] <fta> with my 40km/d, i do 3500 in 3 months.. hmm
[12:09] <asac> hehe
[12:09] <asac> i was in the alps once with a racing bike and tried to climbed one hill.... i didnt succeed and had to step down at some point
[12:10] <asac> the roman legions marched 40km a day when they went by "maxime intinere"
[12:10] <asac> fully packed of course
[12:12] <fta> my 40km are 2*20 in 2*40 min, with traffic, 2*75 red-lights and tons of stop/priorities/...
[12:12] <gnomefre1k> asac: do you have master bug for the flash picture/movie being over the menu submenus of a site? gnash does this as well
[12:13] <fta> “By the year 2010... bandwidth for 20 homes will generate more traffic than entire Internet in 1995”
[12:13] <asac> yeah most likely
[12:13] <fta> "Global IP traffic to be 26 Exabytes per month in 2011"
[12:13] <asac> i think i already consumed more bandwidth then 1995 in my life
[12:13] <asac> question is will there by IPv6 by then?
[12:14] <fta> it's already there
[12:14] <asac> gnomefre1k: we had such a bug for flash
[12:14] <asac> flash always displayed on top
[12:14] <fta> vista has it ON by default
[12:14] <asac> gnomefre1k: ^^
[12:14] <gnomefre1k> asac: yeah i cant find it
[12:14] <asac> fta: when will my provider hand out ipv6 address to me?
[12:14] <gnomefre1k> i have one that needs to be marked as a dupe of the master one but searched all of flash bugs
[12:15] <asac> fta: i think at that point i'd say its there, but probably not before
[12:15] <fta> asac, we are getting shorter on addresses, shorter than ever
[12:15] <fta> getting short
[12:15] <asac> we have been getting short for 5 years ;)
[12:15] <asac> like on oil
[12:17] <asac> gnomefre1k: yeahb its really gone for whatever reason
[12:17] <fta> with the growth of new services (mostly gaming, tv and 3G mobile), it's closer than ever
[12:17] <asac> gnomefre1k: maybe it was auto-closed?
[12:18] <gnomefre1k> i dont know i didnt get email tht it was autoclosed
[12:18] <gnomefre1k> or closed at all
[12:18] <asac> i hate launchpad bug searching
[12:18] <asac> cant be true
[12:18] <asac> i search for all states with terrm "html top"
[12:18] <asac> nothing
[12:18] <asac> even searching for MASTER
[12:18] <asac> didnt give me the bug
[12:19] <gnomefre1k> no it didnt have master name
[12:19] <gnomefre1k> none seem to anymore
[12:20] <asac> one bug is 49613
[12:20] <asac> its fix released for flashplugin-nonfree
[12:20] <gnomefre1k> bug 49613
[12:20] <asac> that cant be true
[12:20] <gnomefre1k> its not
[12:20] <asac> someone closed it everywhere
[12:20] <asac> tist that bug
[12:20] <asac> for sure
[12:21] <gnomefre1k> atleast for us its not fixed
[12:21] <asac> nspluginwrapper -> not fixed i am sure
[12:21] <gnomefre1k> and its not the same
[12:21] <asac> flashplugin-nonfree -> not fixed (not sure if its already in 10 beta)
[12:21] <gnomefre1k> wmode is crashing bug
[12:21] <asac> gnomefre1k: nope
[12:21] <asac> thats really the "Flash content always rendered on top of web pages"
[12:21] <asac> bug
[12:21] <gnomefre1k> let me check but i swear it was crashing atleast in 10
[12:22] <asac> gnomefre1k: even if it crashes, that bug above is the bug you were looking for
[12:22] <asac> please add gnash there
[12:22] <gnomefre1k> k
[12:23] <asac> and figure out if flashplugin-nonfree in intrepid really fixes this
[12:23] <asac> thanks
[12:23] <gnomefre1k> the wmode bug has dupes to it
[12:23] <gnomefre1k> this bug is the one i had as dupe of it
[12:23] <asac> bug 49613 is clearly the master
[12:23] <asac> its old and has plenty of dupes
[12:23] <gnomefre1k> gnash was added earier this morning maybe an hur or so
[12:24] <gnomefre1k> ok added
[12:24] <asac> gnomefre1k: bug 249305
[12:24] <asac> mark it a dupe then
[12:24] <gnomefre1k> thats mine
[12:24] <gnomefre1k> the one i was talking about
[12:25] <asac> yeah dupe it into the grant master above
[12:25] <gnomefre1k> doing
[12:25] <gnomefre1k> done
[12:26] <asac> thx
[12:27] <gnomefre1k> asac: did you say nspluginwrapper wasnt fixed either?
[12:27] <asac> yes. its fixed upstrewam, but not in ubuntu
[12:27] <gnomefre1k> i dont use it so im not sure
[12:27] <asac> bug status appears to be ok for that
[12:27] <gnomefre1k> k
[12:27] <gnomefre1k> how its ubuntu task
[12:28] <asac> gnomefre1k: we have 301 incomplete bugs against firefox-3.0 package
[12:28] <gnomefre1k> not upstream task
[12:28] <gnomefre1k> hmmmmm there are 2 nspluginwrapper tasks
[12:28] <asac> and 512 NEW bugs ...... OUCH!!!!!
[12:29] <asac> now i see why we have 900+ bugs open
[12:30] <asac> can we close 240 next week? ;)
[12:30] <asac> that would bring us down to 700
[12:30] <Nafallo> asac: nice number! makes me thinks of memory sticks :-)
[12:30] <asac> yeah
[12:31]  * Nafallo likes his memory ;-)
[12:31] <asac> Nafallo: wanna close 240 bugs?
[12:31] <asac> ;)
[12:31] <asac> i think your bug karma is far too low and could deserve some polish ;)
[12:31] <Nafallo> asac: I'm sure I can write a script... "Closed by evil troll! 55555" good as comment? ;-)
[12:32] <asac> why not. as long as its not me
[12:32] <Nafallo> hehe
[12:32] <asac> feel free to write a script that closes all bugs saying: "closing bug. if you really care, please reopne": )
[12:32] <asac> i think we would get rid of 30% of bugs in that way
[12:33] <Nafallo> "Closing bug. Use apt-get install epiphany-browser kthxbai!!!"
[12:33] <Nafallo> ;-)
[12:33] <asac> Nafallo: no please not ;)
[12:33] <asac> we could reassign epiphany however asking them to verify if it exists there as well :)
[12:33] <Nafallo> lol
[12:33] <asac> seb can probably deal better with bugs than me
[12:34] <Nafallo> I'm still looking for that upgrade...
[12:34] <Nafallo> seb512 or seb1024 :-)
[12:34] <asac> that would leave out 256
[12:35] <Nafallo> exactly
[12:35] <Nafallo> 2048 should be able to do the whole distributing himself ;-)
[12:35] <Nafallo> s/ng/on/
[12:35] <asac> that would be great
[12:36]  * fta leaving for the w-e.
[12:36] <fta> cu
[12:36] <asac> have fun
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ok now irssi work
[12:38] <gnomefreak> gnome term really needs to get fixed
[12:38] <gnomefreak> sorry gedit even
[12:38] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: terminator ftw :-)
[12:39] <asac> i am out for lunchtime
[12:40] <gnomefreak> ok lets see if it works
[12:44] <gnomefreak> now to figure out how to set a backup nick
[13:25] <asac> so
[13:25] <asac> online-checkin committed
[13:25] <asac> lets hope it works out well
[13:25] <Britta_> ?question. I wonder if this is a known bug... I use FF3 on both my ubuntu 8.04 pcs. On both of them occasionally the browser screen 'pops out' to fill the entire monitor, covering top and bottom bars, and the top right hand icons for minimize, resize window and close window disappear.
[13:26] <Britta_> A reboot sometimes helps.
[13:26] <asac> oh its just 9h 20min from london to vancouver. thats fast
[13:26] <Britta_> F11 will retoggle the window back to normal size, but won't give me back the icons.
[13:27] <asac> Britta_: i have heard something similar
[13:27] <asac> Britta_: using desktop effects?
[13:27] <Britta_> hmm hang on :)
[13:27] <Britta_> normal
[13:27] <asac> disable them and see if it goes away
[13:28] <Britta_> disable normal?
[13:28] <asac> disable desktop effects
[13:28] <asac> e.g. "none"
[13:28] <Britta_> ok thanks. will try that for a while.
[13:28] <asac> Britta_: let us know
[13:28] <asac> there is a bug reported for something similar
[13:28] <Britta_> I will. thanks. will try it for some days, though.
[13:28] <asac> let mee search for it
[13:29] <asac> stay ttuned
[13:29] <Britta_> yes :)
[13:29] <thunderstruck> ok good it all works :)
[13:30] <thunderstruck> damn this is more work than i remember
[13:30] <asac> Britta_: i think its 235900
[13:30] <asac> bug 235900
[13:30] <asac> Britta_: there are demonstration videos attached
[13:31]  * thunderstruck needs to figure out how to filter firefox bugs separately than backport bugs as well as flash ect ..
[13:31] <Britta_> thanks asac, will check it out.
[13:33] <Britta_> ah, are they saying it might not happen if I didn't happen to be a chicken running dual boot?
[13:34] <asac> Britta_: no it doesnt say that
[13:34] <asac> Britta_: only thing it says is that its easy to reproduce that way
[13:34] <Britta_> ok. /me does a search for a reading course.
[13:35] <asac> hehe
[13:35] <asac> no ... bug text is usually hard to decipher. so dont be bothered
[13:37] <Britta_> asac :) will get back to this channel when I know if disabling effects works.
[13:37] <gnomefreak> who am i this time?
[13:38] <gnomefreak> ah cool
[13:40] <asac> oh nonono
[13:40] <asac> on Tue it will be 13 degree C in whisler
[13:40] <asac> and that during one of the 3 hots week here in hamburg summer
[13:40] <asac> shame
[13:45] <gnomefreak> asac: whats up with bug 251743 should this have reset itself to english by default?
[13:46] <gnomefreak> ubottu: test
[13:46] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[13:47] <gnomefreak> ah just laggy as shit
[13:56] <thunderstruck> asac: bug 251743 is english set as default and set to it on purpose?
[14:07] <thunderstruck> anyone on a Hardy system that they can check a firefox bug in?
[14:09] <asac> which one?
[14:10] <thunderstruck> asac: help > about should show normal someones is showing a pill size window with nothing on it
[14:10] <thunderstruck> bug 251826
[14:11] <thunderstruck> it works here in Intrepid and Hardy chroot
[14:11] <Nafallo> thunderstruck: wfm
[14:11] <thunderstruck> wfm?
[14:11] <thunderstruck> nm
[14:11] <thunderstruck> works for me
[14:13] <thunderstruck> i have people telling bug reporters to remove firefox than reinstall
[14:13] <asac> thunderstruck: do achieve what?
[14:13] <asac> to archieve what?
[14:13] <thunderstruck> asac: fix a problem
[14:13] <asac> which problem?
[14:13] <thunderstruck> i told him to use new profile
[14:13] <thunderstruck> asac: hold on let me see if i can find bug
[14:14] <thunderstruck> bug 251855
[14:14] <thunderstruck> getting a few assertion bugs as well
[14:45] <Jazzva> asac, could you take a look at my review and see if it's good :)? bug 247867
[14:47] <asac> Jazzva: did we say that we want to drop ice* depends?
[14:47] <Jazzva> Umm.. I think we did
[14:47] <Jazzva> we're not shipping ice{weasel,dove}
[14:48] <Jazzva> At least, we said that we're changing Iceweasel/dove -> Firefox/Thunderbird in descriptions
[14:49] <Jazzva> the depends line is already modified, so I think removing iceweasel won't produce more changes
[14:49] <Jazzva> asac ^
[14:50] <asac> Jazzva: ok. makes sense
[14:50] <asac> otoh, i dont really  mind for depends as long as ours are added
[14:51] <Jazzva> asac, that's true. I just wanted to suggest to make clean depends :). Though, both ways will work :)
[14:53] <Jazzva> asac, and please look at my suggestion to remove iceweasel-torbutton.* files. We don't have that package, so those files are garbage in our case. We add torbutton-extension.* files
[14:54] <asac> Jazzva: did we use torbutton-extension already?
[14:54] <asac> why not "just" torbutton?
[14:54] <Jazzva> hmm noticed few more mistakes... depends should add firefox | firefox-3.0 | firefox-2...
[14:54] <Jazzva> maxVer is 3.0a1pre, so we should bump it and test if it's usable in 3.0
[14:54] <asac> Jazzva: i think its ok to also remove the iceweasel* debhelper files. in that way we will see a conflict which needs to be incorporated in our debhelper files
[14:55] <asac> so your suggestion is right
[14:55] <Jazzva> asac, torbutton is fine by me... I think the change to torbutton-extension was done in some previous upload
[14:57] <asac> Jazzva: ok. if we already have that binary package name then we should stick to it
[14:57] <Jazzva> hmm. this extension says it's compatible with tb up to 1.5... do we still ship that?
[14:58] <asac> we ship tbird 1.5 in dapper + feisty
[14:58] <Jazzva> asac, hmm... then this should be blocked in intrepid... maybe to test with bumped maxVer for TB too...
[14:59] <asac> Jazzva: isnt there a better upstrewam .xpi available?
[14:59] <asac> in debian there is not tbird 1.5 either
[14:59] <asac> is it still torbutton?
[15:01] <Jazzva> debian dropped icedove dep
[15:02] <Jazzva> this is from debian's entry:     - remove compatibility with icedove, so drop the icedove-torbutton package.
[15:02] <Jazzva> mislim da onda mozemo i mi.. verovatno su testirali ...
[15:03] <Jazzva> damn...
[15:03] <Jazzva> :)
[15:04] <asac> Jazzva: ok
[15:04] <Jazzva> I think we can drop tb dep, if they did it in debian. But, maybe it will work with bumped maxVersion.
[15:04] <asac> yep
[15:04] <Jazzva> I'll post another comment
[15:04] <asac> Jazzva: actually i think we shouldnt use "depends" at all ... rather "recommends"
[15:04] <asac> but lets review that at some later point
[15:04] <Jazzva> yep
[15:05] <asac> Jazzva: still on hardy?
[15:05] <Jazzva> yep :)
[15:06] <Jazzva> But I regularly use my intrepid chroot :)
[15:10] <Jazzva> asac, another comment added
[15:11] <asac> ok, can you please upgrade to latest from network-manager PPA?
[15:11] <Jazzva> me?
[15:11] <asac> i think applet is still building, but should be there in a few ;)
[15:11] <asac> yes
[15:11] <Jazzva> umm... after 5pm? :)
[15:11] <asac> what not ;)
[15:11] <Jazzva> is that ok? :)
[15:12] <asac> why not ;)
[15:12] <asac> fine
[15:12] <Jazzva> cool. will try it then after 5 :). just to finish something else :)
[15:12] <asac> you have wireless?
[15:12] <asac> or just wired?
[15:12] <Jazzva> wired
[15:12] <asac> k
[15:12] <asac> still worth a shoot
[15:12] <asac> still on NM 0.6?
[15:12] <Jazzva> i think
[15:13] <asac> Jazzva: ok. maybe do a apt-get install --reinstall libnm-glib0 libnm-util0 network-manager wpasupplicant now :=
[15:13] <asac> so you have the current packages that will get replaced in apt cache ;)
[15:13] <Jazzva> ok
[15:13] <Jazzva> :)
[15:43] <asac> i updated the call for testing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=676992&page=18
[15:43] <asac> if you have results please comment there ;)
[15:46] <asac> saivann: please test latest NM from PPA
[15:46] <asac> i upgraded it today
[15:46] <asac> maybe your issues have improved
[15:46] <asac> saivann: https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive
[17:14] <armin76> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux alpha; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008072613 (Gentoo) Firefox/3.0.1
[17:14] <armin76> asac: ^bumb!
[17:14] <asac> i dont have alpha ;)
[17:14] <armin76> you don't have anything :P
[17:14] <asac> exactly ;)
[17:14] <Nafallo> asac: you have Gentoo? :-)
[17:15] <asac> nope
[17:15]  * armin76 checks if ppc still segfaults
[17:16] <asac> alpha must be quite noisy i guess ;)
[17:18] <asac> armin76: what kind of branding is gentoo using? do you sneak in the official branding?
[17:20] <armin76> asac: the user can select it
[17:21] <asac> will that download the bits from net or are you shipping the non-free icons and marks in sources?
[17:21] <armin76> user can select: minefield, iceweasel, or firefox
[17:21] <armin76> hrm? we use mozilla's tarball
[17:21] <asac> which is nonfree ;)
[17:22] <asac> lets see if vbox works again :/
[17:22] <armin76> well, i don't care :P
[17:22] <asac> yay! virtualbox works again
[17:22] <asac> i can finally boot debian :-D
[17:23] <armin76> omg debian :P
[17:23] <asac> me boots fedora 9 at the same time ;)
[17:24] <asac> the debian login screen is nice ;) ... light blue
[17:25] <armin76> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux ppc; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008071816 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.1
[17:25] <armin76> omg bumb!
[17:25] <armin76> doesn't segfault :D
[17:25] <asac> armin76: you can use it?
[17:25] <armin76> yep
[17:26] <armin76> i guess hardy segfaults as well :P
[17:26] <asac> the fedora login screen sucks ;)
[17:26] <asac> it shakes while selecting users
[17:26] <asac> not sure if that is ment to be a desktop effect ,)
[17:26] <asac> hmm ... so how can i upgrade fedora?
[17:27] <armin76> bumb fedora
[17:27] <asac> oh pkgkit is going
[17:27] <asac> currently does its job
[17:27] <asac> lets wait
[17:27] <asac> ;)
[17:28] <armin76> so whats your bet, will it segfault on hardy?
[17:30] <asac_on_fed> he
[17:30] <asac_on_fed> http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdesktopqf9.png
[17:30] <asac_on_fed> thats fedora
[17:30]  * asac_on_fed bumbs 229 packages available for update ;)
[17:31] <asac> debian looses. they dont even show a indication that there are updates available
[17:34] <asac> armin76: 3.0.1? not sure. i think so
[17:39] <armin76> okay, sparc+glibc-2.8 still sigbus
[17:39] <asac> so its libc?
[17:39] <armin76> uh, no
[17:39] <asac> no?
[17:39] <armin76> 3.0.1 sigbuses, 3.0 doesn't
[17:40] <asac> he
[17:40] <armin76> with glibc-2.6 or 2.8, it doesn't matter
[17:40] <asac> sounds random
[17:40] <asac> ah ok we are on sparc
[17:40] <asac> didnt see that
[17:47] <armin76> oh damn, i can't test
[17:47] <asac> too hot or what?
[17:48] <armin76> ports.ubuntu.com doesn't have hardy-updates in the Release file
[17:48] <armin76> so it doesn't let me add it to sources.list
[17:48] <asac> sounds like non-sense ;)
[17:48] <asac> lpia at least has -updates
[17:49] <armin76> yeah, the dirs exist, but they aren't on the Release  file
[17:49] <armin76> sec
[17:49] <asac> armin76: how about http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/hardy-updates/
[17:49] <asac> ?
[17:49] <asac> http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/hardy-updates/Release
[17:49] <asac> which arch is missing?
[17:50] <armin76> http://rafb.net/p/ZVy55G96.html
[17:51] <asac> armin76: what do you have in your sources.list?
[17:52] <armin76> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com hardy main universe hardy-updates
[17:53] <asac> thats wrong
[17:53] <asac> bumb!
[17:54] <asac> duplicate the original line and simply do s/hardy/hardy-updates/ on the new line
[17:54] <asac> same for security
[17:54] <asac> armin76: ^
[17:55] <armin76> lol
[17:55] <armin76> yay
[17:55] <asac> also repeat and do
[17:55] <asac> s/hardy/hardy-proposed/
[17:55] <asac> to get the latest crack
[17:55] <armin76> k, thanks
[17:55] <armin76> i'm not used to debian :P
[17:57] <armin76> seems to work fine as well :)
[17:58] <asac> good crack then
[17:58] <asac> no more bustage
[17:59] <asac> yay
[17:59] <asac> armin76: bumb network-manager ;)
[18:00] <asac> does gentoo have NM at all?
[18:00] <armin76> yeah
[18:00] <asac> good shape?
[18:00] <armin76> no idea, i don't use it
[18:01] <armin76>  networkmanager-0.6.5_p20070823[0]: amd64 ppc x86 networkmanager-0.6.6[0]: ~amd64 ~ppc ~x86
[18:02] <asac> what does that mean?
[18:02] <armin76> still, there's some bustage, sparc sigbused on hardy before 1.9.0.1
[18:02] <armin76> that means the latest version is 0.6.6
[18:02] <asac> armin76: but its gone now ... so who cares?
[18:02] <asac> ah ok
[18:03] <asac> get the maintainer in here. otherwise you will be late on 0.7 ;)
[18:04] <asac> armin76: how does gentoo change the resolv.conf when roaming? do you have some specific mechanism for it?
[18:04] <armin76> roaming?
[18:04] <asac> yeah moving with your laptop from network to other networks
[18:05] <armin76> hrm...i think thats done with openresolv
[18:05] <asac> what does that do?
[18:06] <armin76> http://roy.marples.name/node/343
[18:06] <armin76> not sure if thats what you mean
[18:06] <armin76> if it isn't, better ask in #gentoo, i have no clue :)
[18:07] <asac> ah its resolvconf
[18:07] <asac> we have that too
[18:07] <asac> armin76: does it replace /etc/resolv.conf with a link?
[18:07] <asac> armin76: can you please post resolvconf --help
[18:07] <asac> ?
[18:07] <armin76> yeah, its another implementation of resolvconf :P
[18:07] <asac> i wonder if its the same interface as in debian
[18:08] <armin76> http://rafb.net/p/uQ4nTa70.html
[18:10] <asac> hmm
[18:10] <asac> wonder if my nm resolvconf patch works on gentoo as well
[18:12] <asac> first i have to find that patch again ;)
[18:13] <Jazzva> asac, sorry... I'm gonna test NM now :)
[18:15] <asac> Jazzva: thats ok ;)
[18:23] <asac> Jazzva: you are still online ... is that good news?
[18:23] <asac> ;)
[18:24] <Jazzva> asac, I don't get it? :)
[18:24] <Jazzva> aaah
[18:24] <Jazzva> I get it
[18:24] <Jazzva> no... I'm unable to install from ppa in hardy ...
[18:24] <Jazzva> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/30615/
[18:26] <asac> Jazzva: universe
[18:26] <asac> Jazzva: and you also have to upgrade network-manager-gnome
[18:27] <asac> Jazzva: just run apt-get upgrade
[18:27] <asac> ;)
[18:27] <Jazzva> now let's wait a bit :)
[18:27] <Jazzva> woah
[18:27] <Jazzva> 480MB... for only 120 packages?
[18:27] <Jazzva> *sniff*
[18:27] <asac> Jazzva: you added -proposed?
[18:28] <asac> Jazzva: just type sudo apt-get install network-manager
[18:28] <asac> ;)
[18:28] <Jazzva> yeees... :)
[18:28] <asac> that should pull in all that is required for this upgrade
[18:28] <asac> Jazzva: remove -proposed ;)
[18:28]  * Jazzva needs to remove KDE.
[18:28] <Jazzva> I never use it, and I still keep it... hmph
[18:28] <asac> thats certainly a wise decision
[18:28] <asac> to increase flexibility in terms of instant upgrades
[18:29] <Jazzva> to remove hardy-proposed?
[18:29] <asac> no ... i think removing kde should be enough
[18:29] <Jazzva> hehe :)
[18:30] <asac> ok i am moving to dinner ;)
[18:31] <Jazzva> have fun :)
[18:31] <Jazzva> i'm removing KDE. Yay :D
[19:18] <Jazzva> yay, nm installs :)
[19:18] <Jazzva> am I online?
[19:19] <Jazzva> yay, I'm online :)
[19:19] <Jazzva> asac, it works... I'll see if I have something to test :)
[19:50] <asac> Jazzva: good
[19:50] <asac> thanks
[20:17] <Jazzva> asac, seems to be working ok. I can't turn it off by unchecking "Enable networking" in right-click menu. Probably because it switched my network to roaming mode.
[20:18] <asac> Jazzva: do you have something in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:18] <Jazzva> auto lo
[20:18] <Jazzva> iface lo inet loopback
[20:18] <Jazzva> asac ^
[20:18] <asac> and you cant disable networking?
[20:19] <asac> what happens if you try to do that?
[20:19] <Jazzva> lemme test once more
[20:19] <Jazzva> disabled... do you read me?
[20:19] <asac> yeah
[20:19] <asac> strange
[20:19] <Jazzva> and now I enabled it back
[20:19] <asac> does the NM icon pretend its disconnected?
[20:20] <Jazzva> no
[20:20] <Jazzva> I'm switching to DHCP
[20:20] <asac> and when right clicking networking is still checked?
[20:20] <Jazzva> nope, it's unchecke
[20:20] <Jazzva> d
[20:20] <asac> did you upgrade the -gnome applet?
[20:21] <asac> and restart it ;)
[20:21] <Jazzva> yes
[20:21] <Jazzva> restart? I think it auto-restarted it
[20:21] <asac> no
[20:21] <asac> the applet is still the same
[20:21] <asac> ;)
[20:21] <asac> see right click -> about for version
[20:21] <asac> should be 0.7.0
[20:21] <Jazzva> aaah
[20:21] <Jazzva> :)
[20:21] <Jazzva> easy way to restart an applet?
[20:21] <Jazzva> :)
[20:21] <asac> killall nm-applet
[20:21] <asac> then start nm-applet ;)
[20:22] <asac> i see that thats a problem though
[20:22] <asac> not sure how to best do it :/
[20:22] <Jazzva> ok, i'll try now
[20:22] <Jazzva> maybe to put in postinst script?
[20:22] <asac> and then?
[20:22] <Jazzva> killall nm-applet ; nm-applet :)?
[20:22] <asac> the applet is started by the user
[20:22] <asac> ;)
[20:22] <asac> not by root
[20:22] <Jazzva> hmm..
[20:22] <asac> so if you have multiple people logged in, all need to be restarted
[20:23] <Jazzva> ok, i'll try to disconnect now
[20:23] <asac> i think the best way is to implement a sigstop handler or something that restarts it
[20:23] <asac> but well ;)
[20:23] <Jazzva> disconnected
[20:23] <asac> its too late for hardy users for that
[20:23] <Jazzva> ok... I think I was disconnected... couldn't ping google
[20:23] <asac> so most likely we need to display: "restart required" notification
[20:24] <Jazzva> mhm
[20:24] <Jazzva> like for firefox...
[20:24] <asac> Jazzva: good
[20:24] <asac> Jazzva: have you seen the latest and greates from xionox?
[20:24] <Jazzva> wow... it looks different :)
[20:24] <Jazzva> cool :)
[20:24] <Jazzva> plugin finder?
[20:24] <asac> no restart notifier ;)
[20:24] <Jazzva> or in NM?
[20:24] <asac> he has two branches: pluginf finder and restart notification
[20:24] <Jazzva> I don't think so... It looked the same as before...
[20:25] <asac> Jazzva: get it ;) ... bzr branch lp:~xionox/ubufox/restart.notifier
[20:25] <Jazzva> ok
[20:26] <asac> then you can  sudo touch /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/firefox-3.0-restart-required
[20:26] <asac> and see a restart notification in firefox ;)
[20:26] <asac> with a restart button :-D
[20:26] <Jazzva> ok, branching :)
[20:31] <Jazzva> oooh... pretty :)
[20:32] <Jazzva> just a little correction "has been"
[20:33] <Jazzva> yeah, it's much better than pop-up baloon in gnome-panel :)
[20:34] <asac> right. english is bogus ,)
[20:34] <asac> this still has glitches imo. for instance it doesnt show up in multiple windows properly
[20:34] <asac> further it misbehaves if you do two updates in a row.
[20:34] <Jazzva> two updates in a row? why would it misbehave?
[20:34] <asac> e.g. when you ignore the notification (close it) and you apt-get install --reinstall firefox-3.0 it wont pop up
[20:35] <asac> Jazzva: just try
[20:35] <Jazzva> ahh...
[20:35] <asac> 1st. open two or more windows
[20:35] <asac> then touch the file
[20:35] <Jazzva> it already checked that the file is present
[20:35] <asac> its random for me
[20:35] <asac> sometimes all windows display natification ... but most of the time just one window
[20:35] <Jazzva> maybe a for loop for all windows :)?
[20:35] <asac> well.. the java script is run for each window
[20:35] <Jazzva> (i have no idea if that's possible)
[20:36] <asac> but apparent gBrowser is the same
[20:36] <Jazzva> hmm... though it closes all windows
[20:36] <asac> yes sure
[20:36] <Jazzva> but, right... it would be better if it was present in both windows
[20:36] <asac> another bug. we should try to "save session"
[20:37] <asac> not just restart
[20:37] <Jazzva> well, there should be a procedure that firefox uses
[20:37] <asac> sure
[20:37] <Jazzva> it asks me to save tabs, or to just quit when I have multiple tabs open
[20:37] <asac> right ;)
[20:38] <Jazzva> hmm...
[20:38] <asac> so how to call it ;)
[20:38] <asac> i thihnk addons dialog does it wrong too
[20:38] <Jazzva> replace Restart button
[20:38] <asac> iirc we have bugs that complain about restart after extension install doesnt save tabs
[20:38] <Jazzva> and offer "Restart and save session", "Just restart"... something like that
[20:39] <Jazzva> like they did with "save password" dialof in fx2 -> fx3 :)
[20:39] <Jazzva> *dialog
[20:40] <Jazzva> you know fx code :). I suppose you know where to look for piece of code that offers the restart and save/don't save, so we can reuse it :)
[20:40] <Jazzva> and adapt it to show it in the yellow bar :)
[20:40] <asac> ok i think we have to emit a signal: quit-application-requested
[20:40] <asac> then browser will pop up the dialog and do the rest
[20:41] <Jazzva> it's easier than I thought :)
[20:43] <asac> Jazzva: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30647/
[20:43] <asac> i think that code should do it
[20:44] <Jazzva> we can try it
[20:44] <asac> hmm
[20:44] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30649/
[20:44] <asac> maybe that?
[20:44] <Jazzva> anyway, I'll be off in few minutes to dinner :)
[20:44] <Jazzva> (though, not right now)
[20:48] <Jazzva> i'm looking at mdc
[20:51] <Jazzva> hmm... yes, with eAttemptQuit should be good
[20:51] <Jazzva> maybe "eAttempQuit | eRestart" to make sure it will restart
[20:51] <Jazzva> asac, as mentioned here http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/nsIAppStartup#Constants
[20:53] <Jazzva> off to dinner. bbl
[21:49] <asac> yeah well. i think there are bugs in it ;)
[21:49] <asac> i hope its not ubuntu specific
[21:53] <Jazzva> back... Hmm, I can try it now...
[21:53] <asac> two bad firefox from upstreawm doesnt start here at all
[21:54] <asac> wierd
[21:54] <asac> urgh
[21:54] <asac> Jazzva: can you start upstream build in intrepid in a reasonable way
[21:55] <asac> for me it has no theme and doesnt go online :/
[21:55] <Jazzva> upstream build? oh, downloaded directly from mozilla?
[21:55] <Jazzva> dunno... i can try
[21:55] <asac> yeah
[21:55] <asac> it doesnt work here :/
[21:55] <asac> i think because of amd64
[22:02] <Jazzva> asac, works for me in (non-updated) intrepid chroot
[22:02] <Jazzva> let me update it
[22:07] <asac> Jazzva: so if you disable/enable an extensions in addons there is the restart button
[22:08] <asac> if you hit that will your session be restored?
[22:08] <asac> e.g. tabs, windows
[22:08] <Jazzva> let me check
[22:09] <Jazzva> in upstream or our version?
[22:09] <Jazzva> asac ^
[22:09] <asac> in upstream
[22:09] <asac> in our version it doesnt work for me
[22:10] <asac> maybe try that too ;)
[22:11] <Jazzva> works for me :P
[22:11] <Jazzva> asac, your computer is bad. that's the problem :P
[22:11] <Jazzva> in our version
[22:12] <asac> Jazzva: hmm
[22:12] <asac> hmm
[22:12] <asac> hmm
[22:13] <Jazzva> :P
[22:13] <asac> Jazzva: good stuff
[22:14] <asac> now it works fine here ;)
[22:14] <asac> with a fresh profile
[22:14] <asac> hell whats going on
[22:14] <Jazzva> heh..
[22:14] <asac> ha
[22:14] <asac> prefs.js is own by root :(
[22:16] <asac> cool that was it
[22:16] <Jazzva> yay :)
[22:16] <asac> firefox should really really warn users in case it cannot write prefs.js
[22:16] <asac> or any other profile file
[22:17] <asac> i think it shouldnt start with the Profile parent folder not being owned by itself
[22:17] <asac> so root would just refuse to start with $HOME=/home/asac/
[22:20] <Jazzva> right
[23:01] <Jazzva> asac, we don't need to change restart function :). It was caused by your prefs.js, I think ;)
[23:02] <asac> Jazzva: really?
[23:03] <Jazzva> I just restarted and it resumed my session
[23:03] <asac> hmm
[23:04] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30691/
[23:04] <asac> try that please
[23:04] <asac> tell me if you think its better to get that dialog before
[23:07] <asac> ok i think i have to pack my bag :(
[23:15] <Jazzva> asac, ok, I'll try it now
[23:29] <Jazzva> asac, I'm not getting any dialog
[23:30] <jdhore> I get an error whenever i try to build firefox 3.0.1-ubuntu2:
[23:30] <Jazzva> asac, but I think restarting without a dialog is ok. User is expecting to get back his session on restart.
[23:30] <jdhore> cat debian/ubuntu-useragent.js.tmpl | sed \
[23:30] <jdhore> 		-e 's/@VENDOR@/'`lsb_release -i -s`'/g' \
[23:30] <jdhore> 		-e 's/@VENDOR_SUB@/'`lsb_release -r -s`'/g' \
[23:30] <jdhore> 		-e 's/@VENDOR_COMMENT@/'`lsb_release -c -s`'/g' \
[23:30] <jdhore> 	> debian/firefox-3.0/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.1/defaults/preferences/ubuntu-useragent.js
[23:30] <jdhore> sed: -e expression #2, char 24: unknown option to `s'
[23:30] <Jazzva> At least that seems logical to me
[23:32] <asac> jdhore: all build-depends installed?
[23:32] <jdhore> asac, yes
[23:32] <asac> but it worked in ppa
[23:32] <asac> or didnt it?
[23:32] <jdhore> i use cowbuilder which satisfies deps or the build doesn't start
[23:33] <asac> is that hardy?
[23:34] <jdhore> no, Debian
[23:38] <jdhore> that's why...you all borked the build-depends
[23:38] <jdhore> It seems that any Ubuntu dev can't do anything correctly.....
[23:43] <asac> jdhore: what is correctly here?
[23:46] <asac> doesnt lsb_release -c -s work for you?
[23:47] <asac> jdhore: try to use lsb as build-depends and not lsb-release
[23:47] <jdhore> meh
[23:47] <jdhore> I removed it
[23:47] <asac> ok
[23:47] <asac> use lsb-release, lsb-base
[23:48] <asac> jdhore: if that helps you i can probably add it
[23:50] <asac> Jazzva: right. but we should tell user that there is the risk of loosing session
[23:50] <asac> its about "really? cancel or restart"
[23:51] <asac> not save/not-save
[23:57] <Jazzva> Firefox has upgraded. Do you want to restart? There is a possibility of losing your data... --- Restart ... X
[23:57] <Jazzva> yellow bar :)
[23:57] <Jazzva> asac ^
[23:58] <asac> maybe, but still i think the behaviour should match the behaviour we get in addons "restart" notification
[23:58] <asac> imo
[23:59] <Jazzva> What do we get there?
[23:59] <Jazzva> IIRC, it just restarted for me... presented a yellow bar. that's it
[23:59] <asac> the dialog that is supposed to pop up with my patch ;)
[23:59] <asac> you get a warning dialog whch you can flag as "dont bother again"