[00:08] asac : (The problem with wired network happens since I've installed 0.7.0, not just since I removed the existing network parameters) === asac_ is now known as asac [09:49] Hello everybody :) [09:49] Hi asac :) [09:50] asac: I would like to thank you a lot: we've finished Firefox translation into Occitan thanks to Launchpad and your script. [09:50] We would never have done it without... [09:55] (now, I'm strongly waiting for Thunderbird and if you need a beta-tester, I'm here) :-) [10:03] :( firefox is crashing on nvidia.com [10:04] Yannig: latest thunderbird 3 is on my ppa [10:04] po format? [10:05] no [10:05] Yannig: what version of ff do you have (i need the ubuntu version) [10:05] 3.0.1 [10:06] Yannig: can you go to nvidia.com and let me know if it loads fully? [10:06] In fact, I was talking to asac about his script to make it possible Firefox translation via Launchpad [10:07] Yep, it works [10:07] flash 9? [10:07] Yes [10:07] thought so [10:07] Hum, I see you know how to package :) [10:08] Yannig: yes [10:09] Would you know how to make available for Ubuntu a hunspell Occitan dictionary? [10:09] http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionaries/oc_FR.zip [10:09] Yannig: openoffice.org guys would be the ones to ask since oo.o is a script [10:10] Well, the dictionary is released under .aff and .dic files [10:10] open the zip get the source that you want it part of and add it to where the rest of the .xpi are [10:11] not xpi? [10:11] No [10:11] Yannig: grabbing it now [10:11] well atleast trying to [10:11] I know how to use it for OpenOffice but I thought we could use these files to have the dictionary available for the rest of Ubuntu [10:11] (as any hunspell dictionary in fac) [10:12] t [10:12] Yannig: should beable to but that depends on how skilled you are [10:13] Well :P [10:13] As a user, rather well [10:13] As a developer, rather zero :p [10:14] damn im lagging bad [10:14] If there are just instructions to follow, that's nice [10:14] (otherwise...) === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [10:20] Yannig: remind me monday and ill see what i can do [10:20] Thanks :) [10:20] Yannig: np [10:21] beb restart _dreams_ that they fixed logout [10:21] ill be back [10:30] Yannig: cool [10:30] Yannig: so did you test firefox and all? [10:33] asac: Yep, it's tested and released [10:34] Yannig: released? [10:34] where? [10:34] ;) [10:34] ("released" = I explained on a web page how to install the 2 xpi) [10:34] http://www.totenoc.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox [10:35] Yannig: err. i get to a "anti leech page" [10:35] What's that? :p [10:35] Yannig: i dont know [10:35] www.totenoc.org [10:35] i click on your .xpi links and get no .xpi [10:35] but a page that reads: [10:36] This PHP Script has an Anti-Leech feature turned on. [10:36] Make sure you are accessing this file directly from fichiers.totenoc.org [10:36] It seems you are trying to get it from http://www.totenoc.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox [10:36] Your IP address has been logged. [10:36] 85.177.164.132 [10:37] Yep, the files are at http://fichiers.totenoc.org/ [10:37] The same for me :( [10:38] I'll have a look :p [10:38] doesnt work either :() [10:39] It should be better now [10:43] asac: I didn't know how that setting :p [10:43] Yannig: looks good [10:43] Yannig: not bad ;) [10:44] Yannig: so next step would be to become an official upstream translation team ;) [10:44] Yep... [10:44] already looked into that? [10:44] I send the CVS account request but they changed it meanwhile :p [10:44] I'll have to do it again : [10:44] :p [10:44] changed what [10:44] So, when are you going to release Thunderbird now? :D [10:44] ? [10:45] The CVS account form [10:45] Yannig: they changed it in which way? [10:45] They have another one [10:46] Yannig: which one is it? [10:47] Let me search :) [10:47] indeed [10:47] http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/committer/ [10:47] its new [10:50] asac: gnash: when going to a site with "flash" the menus open under the flash picture [10:50] on 386 [10:50] or whatever it is now [10:50] I'll do that this afternoon [10:51] Many users are really happy about that :) [10:51] gnomefre1k: you use flashblock extension? [10:51] asac: no [10:51] shit my nick :( [10:51] Yannig: you probably could also do a combined firefox-oc.xpi [10:51] for those that dont have the xulrunner split === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [10:52] asac: How could I do that? [10:52] put both .jar files in the .xpi and concat the chrome.manifest [10:52] then use the firefox install.rdf [10:52] that should be enough i hope [10:54] Any command to concat the chrome.manifest or should I do a copy-paste? [10:55] http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/firefox-oc.xpi [10:56] Yannig: ^^ [10:56] Thanks :) [10:56] asac: you did it that fast? [10:56] Yannig: you can use cat /path/to/file1 /path/to/file2 > /tmp/chrome.manifest [10:56] gnomefreak: sure. its just 4 commands or so ;) [10:57] ah [10:57] i downloaded it unpacked it and didnt see any .jars [10:57] http://paste.ubuntu.com/30520/ [10:57] ;) [10:57] asac: By the way, you may have to update the script so that it makes the xpi compatible with Firefox > 3.0 [10:57] Yannig: you have to get a new en-US.xpi from the translation export [10:58] Fair enough [10:58] the maxVersion comes from the en-US.xpi exported from launchpad [10:58] itst updated there to be 3.0.* [10:58] (from language packs for ex ?) [10:58] Yannig: where did you get your current en-US.xpi from? [10:58] From languages packs :) [10:59] yeah right [10:59] (not more than one week ago) [10:59] from launchpad though? [11:00] Yep [11:00] that looks easy only it looks repetitive [11:00] yes get a new one then [11:00] i am sure its been there for 2 weeks now [11:00] but well [11:00] ;) [11:00] Yannig: you wont need a new one afterwards anymore [11:01] we opened up maxVersion now [11:02] Yannig: ad tbird. i dont think we will do tbird 2 in launchpad. we probably want tbird 3 there. but i have to think about it [11:02] Fair enough :) [11:04] Yannig: ok. let me unblacklist your locale then [11:04] whats your language code? [11:04] oc [11:06] Yannig: ok whitelisted and unblacklisted ;) [11:06] double == safe ;)= [11:06] Great :) [11:06] Yannig: i think every two weeks there are new language packs in the language-pack ppa [11:06] your translatinos should appear there for firefox [11:06] Great [11:06] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive [11:07] I'm going to proofread everything, do a single xpi and submit it to https://addons.mozilla.org now :) [11:07] Yannig: does it work that way? [11:07] i mean: submit the .xpi? [11:07] sorry, i have no clue how the langpack translation contribution process works [11:08] any help on that appreciated [11:08] It would give the opportunity to have a langpack for those under Win and Mac [11:09] Yannig: can you find out how the procedure for becoming a "official" translation team is? [11:09] and tell me? [11:09] maybe even document it [11:09] especially how the review is done. how to submit the results. [11:10] http://www.mozilla.org/projects/l10n/mlp_howto.html [11:10] (but it's a very very very heavy procedure) [11:12] asac: bumb! [11:12] Yannig: so could you tell me what the next steps for you would be? [11:13] what is missing? [11:13] CVS request [11:13] (another one :p) [11:13] armin76: what piece of software needs a bumb now? [11:13] Showing the translation is done [11:13] Yannig: i dont see CVS request listed on that page ;) [11:13] that doesnt sem too bad [11:13] it ends with "submitting" [11:14] s/sem/seem [11:14] yeah [11:14] (I'll go and eat, see you) [11:14] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367341 [11:14] Mozilla bug 367341 in Account Request: CVS "CVS account for Mozilla Occitan translations" [Normal,Assigned] [11:14] how hard can it be to submit it once you have 2 acks [11:14] plus the 2 people you ask to comment [11:15] patches are easier [11:15] too bad that reed isnt here now [11:16] it would be [11:17] gnomefreak: what do you mean. you say getting CVS account is too easy? [11:17] i guess i can use weekend to clean up bookmarks and do all the other little crap [11:17] asac: why would you need one? [11:17] if you contact MPL staff they host it [11:18] gnomefreak: i need one ;) [11:18] http://www.mozilla.org/projects/l10n/mlp_howto.html [11:18] asac: ah [11:19] for landing security patches [11:19] but i was too lazy for about a year now to send my contributors agreement ;) [11:19] asac: cant you set one up on your domain? or do you need to get a cvs account? [11:19] but i will be at firefox summit next week, so hopefully i can push that through there [11:19] gnomefreak: setup what? cvs? [11:19] yes [11:20] no the idea is to get our patches into their cvs for the EOL 1.8.0 branch [11:20] ah [11:20] e.g. what we have in dapper [11:21] asac: wont 1.8 be stopped pretty much next release of most apps [11:21] yeah. then even 1.8 needs to be maintained [11:21] i am currently into 1.8.0 [11:21] i thought all were trying to et on the xulrunner1-1.9 train [11:21] oh [11:21] right. but not distros that released the old versions [11:21] s/et/get [11:21] I'll try to get more people on board for that during summit next week [11:22] good point [11:22] asac: how many days? [11:22] for summit [11:22] starts on Tue (with monday evening a first event) and ends on Thu [11:22] fun ;) [11:22] http://wiki.mozilla.org/Summit2008 [11:23] you leaving today? [11:23] im sure flight is like 10+ hours [11:23] from you [11:24] its close to 14 hours for me to fly to venice [11:24] yeah [11:24] 1.5 hours to london ... and then 11 hours [11:25] connection time in london only 1 hour ... so most likely i will miss the vancouver flight [11:25] gnomefreak: i am leaving tomorrow [11:25] ah [11:25] thats gonna be a long day [11:25] yeah. especially since i will miss my connection flight in london i am sure [11:26] or at least my luggage will get lost :/ [11:26] i hate 11 hour flights for sure ;) [11:26] completely painful [11:26] yeah i knwo that feeling all too well but i stopped travelingabout 8 years ago [11:26] why? [11:27] asac: i went from sick to really sick [11:27] so you cant fly anymore? [11:27] and now im dealing with the side affects from diabetes but sugar is under control [11:27] asac: i can but not that long [11:27] because of diabetes? [11:31] gnomefreak: so do we have a bad bug flood? [11:31] after the release of 3.0.1? [11:31] gnomefreak: did you try to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/TriagersHandbook for state NEW and Incomplete? [11:35] these frigging things suck === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [11:35] * gnomefreak needs to set up alias' for connection control [11:36] 06:27 < gnomefreak > and now im dealing with the side affects from diabetes but sugar is under control [11:36] 06:27 < gnomefreak > asac: i can but not that long [11:36] 06:28 < gnomefreak > curculation in legs i have to worry about [11:36] 06:28 < gnomefreak > ohnly spelled right [11:36] 06:28 < gnomefreak > only [11:36] 06:29 < gnomefreak > wtf [11:36] incase you missed it [11:37] yeah i mssed it [11:37] gnomefreak: too late to start doing sports? [11:38] yeah too old but i do still work out [11:38] hope so [11:39] yep i have to to keep sugar under control meds are not enough [11:46] i have this letter i am supposed to print to show to immigration officers in case they ask [11:47] * asac wonders if i can just show it on laptop to them ;) [11:47] or if i really need to print it [11:50] I'm back :-) [11:50] asac: print it [11:51] its faster [11:51] wasier [11:51] easier even [11:56] hi [11:56] it's never too late to do some sport [11:57] bumbing! [11:57] lol [12:03] its not easier to print for me ... have to go to copy shop which will honourably print my things for 1 EUR per page ;) [12:03] but ill do it anyway i guess [12:03] no printer? [12:03] yeah [12:04] dumped it into the river [12:04] ah that would make printing harder [12:04] yeah [12:04] fta: so i guess you continued to do bike-sports ;) [12:05] yep [12:05] if you'd stay away one week longer i would said that you are participating in the tour-de-france ;) [12:05] hehe [12:06] i'd like to do it one day, for fun [12:06] but not in 3 weeks ;) [12:06] yeah ;) [12:06] 3500km [12:06] i think its obvious why everyone goes for doping [12:07] i mean i couldnt do any single of the hill-days for sure [12:08] you probably could, taking your time [12:08] hmm. i really doubt it. i think some of the hills are just too much to go by bike. if i go by food then yes. [12:08] with my 40km/d, i do 3500 in 3 months.. hmm [12:09] hehe [12:09] i was in the alps once with a racing bike and tried to climbed one hill.... i didnt succeed and had to step down at some point [12:10] the roman legions marched 40km a day when they went by "maxime intinere" [12:10] fully packed of course [12:12] my 40km are 2*20 in 2*40 min, with traffic, 2*75 red-lights and tons of stop/priorities/... [12:12] asac: do you have master bug for the flash picture/movie being over the menu submenus of a site? gnash does this as well [12:13] “By the year 2010... bandwidth for 20 homes will generate more traffic than entire Internet in 1995” [12:13] yeah most likely [12:13] "Global IP traffic to be 26 Exabytes per month in 2011" [12:13] i think i already consumed more bandwidth then 1995 in my life [12:13] question is will there by IPv6 by then? [12:14] it's already there [12:14] gnomefre1k: we had such a bug for flash [12:14] flash always displayed on top [12:14] vista has it ON by default [12:14] gnomefre1k: ^^ [12:14] asac: yeah i cant find it [12:14] fta: when will my provider hand out ipv6 address to me? [12:14] i have one that needs to be marked as a dupe of the master one but searched all of flash bugs [12:15] fta: i think at that point i'd say its there, but probably not before [12:15] asac, we are getting shorter on addresses, shorter than ever [12:15] getting short [12:15] we have been getting short for 5 years ;) [12:15] like on oil [12:17] gnomefre1k: yeahb its really gone for whatever reason [12:17] with the growth of new services (mostly gaming, tv and 3G mobile), it's closer than ever [12:17] gnomefre1k: maybe it was auto-closed? [12:18] i dont know i didnt get email tht it was autoclosed [12:18] or closed at all [12:18] i hate launchpad bug searching [12:18] cant be true [12:18] i search for all states with terrm "html top" [12:18] nothing [12:18] even searching for MASTER [12:18] didnt give me the bug [12:19] no it didnt have master name [12:19] none seem to anymore [12:20] one bug is 49613 [12:20] its fix released for flashplugin-nonfree [12:20] bug 49613 [12:20] Launchpad bug 49613 in flashplugin-nonfree "Adobe Flash does not support WMODE (Flash content always rendered on top of web pages)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49613 [12:20] that cant be true [12:20] its not [12:20] someone closed it everywhere [12:20] tist that bug [12:20] for sure [12:21] atleast for us its not fixed [12:21] nspluginwrapper -> not fixed i am sure [12:21] and its not the same [12:21] flashplugin-nonfree -> not fixed (not sure if its already in 10 beta) [12:21] wmode is crashing bug [12:21] gnomefre1k: nope [12:21] thats really the "Flash content always rendered on top of web pages" [12:21] bug [12:21] let me check but i swear it was crashing atleast in 10 [12:22] gnomefre1k: even if it crashes, that bug above is the bug you were looking for [12:22] please add gnash there [12:22] k [12:23] and figure out if flashplugin-nonfree in intrepid really fixes this [12:23] thanks [12:23] the wmode bug has dupes to it [12:23] this bug is the one i had as dupe of it [12:23] bug 49613 is clearly the master [12:23] Launchpad bug 49613 in flashplugin-nonfree "[MASTER] Adobe Flash does not support WMODE (Flash content always rendered on top of web pages)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49613 [12:23] its old and has plenty of dupes [12:23] gnash was added earier this morning maybe an hur or so [12:24] ok added [12:24] gnomefre1k: bug 249305 [12:24] Launchpad bug 249305 in gnash "Menu hidden behind other objects" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249305 [12:24] mark it a dupe then [12:24] thats mine [12:24] the one i was talking about [12:25] yeah dupe it into the grant master above [12:25] doing [12:25] done [12:26] thx [12:27] asac: did you say nspluginwrapper wasnt fixed either? [12:27] yes. its fixed upstrewam, but not in ubuntu [12:27] i dont use it so im not sure [12:27] bug status appears to be ok for that [12:27] k [12:27] how its ubuntu task [12:28] gnomefre1k: we have 301 incomplete bugs against firefox-3.0 package [12:28] not upstream task [12:28] hmmmmm there are 2 nspluginwrapper tasks [12:28] and 512 NEW bugs ...... OUCH!!!!! [12:29] now i see why we have 900+ bugs open [12:30] can we close 240 next week? ;) [12:30] that would bring us down to 700 [12:30] asac: nice number! makes me thinks of memory sticks :-) [12:30] yeah [12:31] * Nafallo likes his memory ;-) [12:31] Nafallo: wanna close 240 bugs? [12:31] ;) [12:31] i think your bug karma is far too low and could deserve some polish ;) [12:31] asac: I'm sure I can write a script... "Closed by evil troll! 55555" good as comment? ;-) [12:32] why not. as long as its not me [12:32] hehe [12:32] feel free to write a script that closes all bugs saying: "closing bug. if you really care, please reopne": ) [12:32] i think we would get rid of 30% of bugs in that way [12:33] "Closing bug. Use apt-get install epiphany-browser kthxbai!!!" [12:33] ;-) [12:33] Nafallo: no please not ;) [12:33] we could reassign epiphany however asking them to verify if it exists there as well :) [12:33] lol [12:33] seb can probably deal better with bugs than me [12:34] I'm still looking for that upgrade... [12:34] seb512 or seb1024 :-) [12:34] that would leave out 256 [12:35] exactly [12:35] 2048 should be able to do the whole distributing himself ;-) [12:35] s/ng/on/ [12:35] that would be great [12:36] * fta leaving for the w-e. [12:36] cu [12:36] have fun === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [12:37] ok now irssi work [12:38] gnome term really needs to get fixed [12:38] sorry gedit even [12:38] gnomefreak: terminator ftw :-) [12:39] i am out for lunchtime [12:40] ok lets see if it works [12:44] now to figure out how to set a backup nick === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [13:25] so [13:25] online-checkin committed [13:25] lets hope it works out well [13:25] ?question. I wonder if this is a known bug... I use FF3 on both my ubuntu 8.04 pcs. On both of them occasionally the browser screen 'pops out' to fill the entire monitor, covering top and bottom bars, and the top right hand icons for minimize, resize window and close window disappear. [13:26] A reboot sometimes helps. [13:26]