[00:08] <Pici> klined?
[00:08] <nalioth> Pici: what do you think?
[00:09] <Pici> nalioth: I think I should have known and just not asked.
[00:09] <nalioth> cheeky sod was making the rounds
[00:32] <Pici> !ping
[00:43] <Pici> @mark zoreau #ubuntu given the irc guidelines in private message, evaluate and unban if  appropriate.
[00:44] <Pici> Is it a full moon tonight?
[00:49]  * mneptok moons the channel
[01:28] <sajes> Religion talk is going on in -offtopic.
[01:29] <sajes> Also, apparently I'm abusing ubottu by !religion'ing when people get into religious debates.
[02:42]  * Flannel mentions we probably should remove the ban on *!*@c-69-245-242-199.hsd1.in.comcast.net from here.
[02:48] <Pici> Flannel: Who is that for?
[02:49] <Pici> @btlogin
[02:49] <Flannel> Pici: Baron1984, banned in -offtopic and ubuntuforums (and here).  He's now AlmightyCthulhu, and his ban from here was more of a nuisance ban
[02:49] <tomaw> klined
[02:49] <Pici> tomaw: thanks
[02:49] <Flannel> Pici: I imagine the other bans could be cleared as well, but couldn't hurt to talk to him about them first
[02:50] <Flannel> Pici: Either way, removing him here will keep him from talking about th eban in #ubuntu (which was two days ago)
[06:00] <bazhang> the ops command is no longer working in #ubuntu
[06:01] <bazhang> just briefly stopping by, will be back later.
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> Now that is interesting...  Responds in PM fine.
[06:11] <stdin> that was because of the 'is'
[07:13] <ompaul> setting up for my saturday morning ban removal
[07:13] <ompaul> i.e. anyone from the previous week not this last week
[07:13] <ompaul> if it is not an ip it does not get removed
[07:15] <nickrud> ompaul I have no bans, nicks included, that can't be removed.
[07:15] <ompaul> nickrud, the hint is more the opposite
[07:15] <ompaul> if you want to keep some nick out you need to do more than *!*@foo.ip
[07:15] <nickrud> ompaul yeah, that's why I mentioned it
[07:15] <ompaul> ;-)
[07:16] <nickrud> anyway, i only have one active, I'll drop it now
[07:20] <nalioth> any supybot doctors around?
[07:20] <nalioth> doctors/wizards/shamen ?
[07:21] <Flannel> nalioth: I can't get mine to work with the ubotu database, does that count?
[07:22] <nalioth> Flannel: ubot3 won't respond in #ubuntuforums-beginners
[07:22] <Flannel> Do you run it?  Is it giving error messages in the console?
[07:22] <nalioth> console . . . hmmm
[07:22] <Flannel> Actually, nalioth, while you're here, mind giving my LoCo bot a hostmask?
[07:22]  * nickrud giggles
[07:23] <stdin> does it respond to bot commands directly? like ping/list?
[07:23] <nalioth> it works fine in other channels
[07:23] <nalioth> ubot3: ping
[07:23] <ubot3> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[07:23] <stdin> just not in that channel?
[07:24] <nalioth> that one and #ubuntu :|
[07:26] <stdin> it'd not lobotomised in any channels is it?
[07:27] <nalioth> i don't understand.
[07:27] <nalioth> the only channel it's got special instructions for is this one
[07:28] <stdin> there's a "lobotomy" feature that stops it responding to non-admins on a per-channel basis, but if you don't know about it then I doubt you've set it
[07:28] <stdin> check the bots log in (bot dir)/log/messages.log
[07:29] <nalioth> don't they go to the console, too?
[07:29] <stdin> depends if it's daemonized or not
[07:32] <nalioth> it's not.
[07:32] <stdin> ubot3: ping
[07:32] <ubot3> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[07:33] <stdin> ^ping
[07:33] <ubot3> pong
[07:33] <stdin> it responds to ping at least
[07:34] <nalioth> it responds (in here) to anything you ask it by name
[07:34] <nalioth> ubot3: info kdm
[07:34] <ubot3> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 692 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[07:36] <stdin> that is odd
[07:36] <nalioth> quite.
[07:41] <nalioth> stdin: so how crazy is that?
[07:41] <stdin> insanely
[07:42] <stdin> I can't even think of a possible reason for it doing that
[07:42]  * nalioth mutters crazy talk and goes back to bed . . .  (it's 0141 where he's sitting)
[07:44] <nalioth> grazi, stdin
[07:44] <stdin> at least it works, we should hold on to that and forget the insanity that is supybot
[07:45] <Flannel> !nickspam > stony
[07:59] <elkbuntu> it's 5pm here and im still in my pjs
[08:00]  * Flannel grumbles about the resurrection of automatix.
[08:00] <elkbuntu> ugh
[08:12] <jussi01> Flannel: huh??
[08:12] <Flannel> jussi01: The unholy union of Ultimate Edition and Automatic: http://ultamatix.com/
[08:13] <jussi01> oh no....
[08:15] <jussi01> ugh....
[08:15] <jussi01> why? why? why?
[08:15] <Flannel> jussi01: What do you set to keep from doubling up on error messages in queries? ("is not a valid command" plus factoid)
[08:15] <Flannel> jussi01: because some people just enjoy breaking stuff
[08:15] <jussi01> Flannel: wht?
[08:16] <Flannel> jussi01: supybot?
[08:20] <wgrant> Flannel: /me dies violently.
[08:31] <stdin> Flannel: use supybot.reply.whenNotCommand
[08:31] <stdin> ie: set to False
[08:42] <Flannel> stdin: Thanks
[09:12] <Hobbsee> Flannel: all i can say is "i hope his code is better than his english"
[09:12] <Hobbsee> and "oh no"
[09:13] <Flannel> Hobbsee: Its either his second language, or he's trying *really* hard to sound sophisticated
[09:14] <Hobbsee> or both.
[09:14] <Flannel> ubottu is slooooowwwwwwww
[09:19] <Myrtti> hmmm
[09:19] <Myrtti> I wonder if there is a way to monitor the usage of it
[09:20] <Myrtti> perhaps someone is at the moment trying to very hard to bring ubottu down
[09:24] <Myrtti> oy goddamnit hell my back hurts
[09:27]  * elkbuntu cuddles Myrtti better
[09:27] <Myrtti> atleast the coffee from the pink moka pot is excellent
[09:29] <Myrtti> http://www.typhoonplus.com/MainPageArt/TeaCoffee3.jpg
[09:31]  * Myrtti goes to get another cup
[09:33] <Flannel> got it
[09:41] <elkbuntu> hrm, so my talk got accepted to OSDC, now i gotta write it
[09:42] <Hobbsee> \o/
[09:43] <elkbuntu> :D
[09:45] <Myrtti> should I go and make another pot of espresso?
[09:45] <Myrtti> :-D
[09:46] <Myrtti> according to the coffee pot makers I've just drank 6 cups of the stuff...
[09:46] <Myrtti> nomnom
[09:52] <elkbuntu> haha
[10:02] <Myrtti> Mez is a meanie
[10:02] <Myrtti> I'm not talking to him. *snif*
[10:04] <Mez> oeace and quiet! :P
[10:04] <Mez> s/o/p/
[10:08] <Myrtti> what a wonderful day this will be. I've got my apartment full of flies, my back aches like hell, this place is a mess, it's hot like in hell and my mom waked me up
[10:09] <Mez> s/waked/woke/
[10:09] <Myrtti> what else.
[10:09]  * Myrtti hears flies buzzing around
[10:12]  * elkbuntu gives Myrtti another hug
[10:16] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2702710531/ ♥
[10:37]  * elkbuntu hawks james_bomb with a /cs k
[10:37] <Myrtti> hawk all you want
[10:37]  * Flannel +1
[10:39] <Myrtti> oh for Gaia's sake
[10:39] <Myrtti> I can see trouble stirring in #ubuntu-women
[10:42] <Myrtti> !prayer
[10:43] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, have you seen abstruse goose yet?
[10:43] <Myrtti> yup
[10:50] <Gary> elkbuntu: I was going to do that, but then he calmed a bit
[10:57] <PFA> hi, why am i banned from ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:58] <Myrtti> because of mibbit
[10:59] <Myrtti> you're not really
[10:59] <PFA> what
[10:59]  * PFA facepalms
[10:59] <PFA> how can i get on then? i'm at a friend's house. she doesn't have IRC.
[10:59] <Myrtti> didn't you have unaffiliated cloak?
[10:59] <Myrtti> identify with it and try again
[11:00] <Gary> Myrtti: unaffiliated cloaks do not pass though gateway cloaks
[11:00] <PFA> i did identify. it changed my cloak from unaffiliated to the mibbit one :/
[11:00] <Myrtti> Gary: oh.
[11:00] <Gary> also, remind me to never do a /ban in an ubuntu channel again :'(
[11:00] <Gary> it scrolled up for ages!
[11:01] <PFA> can someone create an exception for me or something? :<
[11:01] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: is porncake a bot? and no /whois doesnt say it is
[11:02] <Gary> PFA: only by removing the mibbit ban, unless you got a project cloak quick
[11:02] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: no idea?
[11:02] <PFA> Gary: are there any projects that give out cloaks?
[11:02] <PFA> with no effort?
[11:02]  * Hobbsee is suprised the floodbots don't do -offtopic?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> unaffiliated is about it for freenode
[11:02]  * PFA cries
[11:02] <Myrtti> Hobbsee: of course they dont
[11:02] <PFA> i just wanna talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:03] <Myrtti> Hobbsee: they do only one channel per time
[11:03] <Hobbsee> they do in #ubuntu, i thought
[11:03] <gnomefreak> PFA: are you banned from there?
[11:03]  * gnomefreak cant remember command
[11:04] <PFA> gnomefreak: no.
[11:04] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: it's +e
[11:04] <gnomefreak> PFA: than why cant you talk in there?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: no for bot
[11:04] <PFA> gnomefreak: cause im using mibbit
[11:04] <Hobbsee> ah
[11:04] <PFA> which is banned
[11:04] <gnomefreak> PFA: than you are banned
[11:04] <gnomefreak> PFA: not you but generally you are
[11:04] <PFA> well yeah
[11:05] <PFA> but it's like a host banned, not ME SPECIFICALLY banned
[11:05] <PFA> i wanna talk there :<
[11:05]  * gnomefreak wonders why it was set
[11:05] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: abuse.
[11:05]  * Myrtti tries
[11:05] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: just grant her an exception, surely?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> from the whole host?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: Myrtti is trying i think
[11:06] <Hobbsee> Myrtti: that should do it
[11:06] <Myrtti> PFA: try now?
[11:06] <Hobbsee> if not, use a standard *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d42d974dc048d792
[11:06] <PFA> omg
[11:06] <Myrtti> HTH, HAND
[11:06] <PFA> thank you so much
[11:06] <gnomefreak> as long as PFA doesnt change hostmasks she should be fine ;)
[11:07]  * PFA hugs Myrtti
[11:07] <gnomefreak> x-d42d974dc048d792 needs to stay the same
[11:07] <Myrtti> PFA: holler me when you're done at -ot
[11:07] <Myrtti> I'll remove the exception and reinstate it again when you need it
[11:07] <gnomefreak> oh +e doesnt stay?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:07] <Myrtti> it does
[11:07] <Myrtti> but I'd rather not keep exceptions for long time
[11:08] <Myrtti> so it doesn't become a "habit"
[11:08] <PFA> Myrtti: okay, i'll try to remember
[11:08] <PFA> i'm a bit tipsy :X but yeah. thank you very much <3
[11:08] <Myrtti> np :-P
[11:09]  * Myrtti considers making another pot of espresso
[11:09]  * gnomefreak could use some right about now
[11:09] <Gary> Myrtti: meh, we just ran out of coffee here :'(
[11:09] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, a third pot?
[11:09] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: nope, second
[11:09] <elkbuntu> i thought you already made the second
[11:09] <Myrtti> I got sidetracked
[11:10] <elkbuntu> ah
[11:10] <Myrtti> photographed the pot, fed pigses
[11:10] <Myrtti> etc
[11:10] <gnomefreak> i have plenty of coffee but i cant drink any now
[11:10] <Gary> pigses?
[11:11] <Flannel> Gary: guinea pigs
[11:11] <Gary> awwwww
[11:11] <Gary> pics
[11:11] <gnomefreak> plural for pigs in Myrtti-speak
[11:11] <Flannel> Gary: mind setting up my bot with a hostmask?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> gary is staff too?
[11:12] <Gary> Flannel: can you get it to ask me in pm?
[11:12] <Gary> gnomefreak: ya
[11:12] <Flannel> I'm... not sure.  I haven't had much luck with ircquote.  I can always log on in another irssi window though.
[11:13] <gnomefreak> i go away for a couple of months and paul is no longer staff and thier were a bunch of people added to staff
[11:13] <Gary> gnomefreak: all change eh
[11:13] <Gary> Flannel: whats the bots name?
[11:13] <Flannel> LikeTotally
[11:13]  * Flannel waits for ensuing ridicule.
[11:15] <Gary> Flannel: cloaked, I confirmed that it was on the same connection as you, i'd rather have the bot ask normally though
[11:16] <Flannel> Gary: I'd love to have it ask you, to be honest.
[11:17] <Gary> but your bot skills suck? :p
[11:17] <Flannel> I just can't find *any* documentation on ircquote except that it exists.
[11:17] <Flannel> so, sure :)
[11:17] <Gary> hehe
[11:17] <Gary> no problem, it's done
[11:17] <Flannel> Aye.  Thanks.
[11:20] <smallfoot-> I am banned from #ubuntu, #ubuntu+1, and #ubuntu-offtopic, can someone please unban me?
[11:21] <Flannel> smallfoot-: I believe someone recommended you come back in a week or so.
[11:22] <smallfoot-> Well, they recommend me to come back every single day...
[11:22] <elkbuntu> i doubt that
[11:22] <smallfoot-> "Come back later"; "Come back tomorrow", "Come back in a few hours", "Come back next week"
[11:23] <Flannel> smallfoot-: No, I believe it was "come back in at least a week" with the assumption of that would be significant time for you to read up on Ubuntu channel guidelines, the code of conduct, and freenode policies so we wouldn't have any more trouble.
[11:23] <smallfoot-> i read those things 1000 times
[11:24] <elkbuntu> smallfoot-, you still need to wait out the week
[11:24] <Flannel> smallfoot-: When did you read them 1000 times?
[11:24] <Myrtti> "Thou shall not create channels of your own that belong to a certain project under the namespace rule"
[11:24] <smallfoot-> idk, always
[11:24] <smallfoot-> well, i just didnt think of that
[11:25] <smallfoot-> its easy to forget it
[11:25] <elkbuntu> then you havent read the rules enough
[11:25] <Flannel> smallfoot-: Its not just about "reading" its about learning and absorbing.
[11:25] <smallfoot-> yeah, thats the difficult part
[11:25] <Flannel> smallfoot-: reading the words means nothing unless you're actually paying attention to what you've read
[11:25] <Hobbsee> smallfoot-: i said a week.
[11:26] <Hobbsee> smallfoot-: not a day.
[11:26] <smallfoot-> ok
[11:26] <Hobbsee> did you fail to understand the first time?
[11:26] <smallfoot-> yes
[11:26] <Flannel> smallfoot-: I suggest you take the suggestion of taking a week off to learn the rules and guidelines that we all follow.  And then after that time, theoretically we won't have any more problems.
[11:26] <Hobbsee> then learn this time, as if you come back again, before next saturday, it'll be a two-week ban from whenever you come back.
[11:26] <smallfoot-> well, i want to get unbanned from ubuntu+1 channel now, because i have 8.10 and i wont tell them what is broken so they can nkow and fix it
[11:26] <Hobbsee> understood?
[11:27] <smallfoot-> hmm, thats no good
[11:27] <elkbuntu> demanding does not work at all.
[11:27] <smallfoot-> well, its unfair i have to wait until next saturday, because i already waited some time now
[11:27] <Hobbsee> perhaps you should have thought of that before you disobeyed the rules, then.
[11:27] <Hobbsee> smallfoot-: fyi, you're probably also looking at a permanent ban, if you don't reform.
[11:27] <elkbuntu> !forum
[11:28] <elkbuntu> if you desperately need help. i'd advise not breaking the rules there either.
[11:28] <smallfoot-> if you ban me permanently, i can never help the people in #ubuntu, and i cant report bug in #ubuntu+1, so it will be bad and not good release
[11:29] <elkbuntu> you dont report bugs in +1
[11:29] <elkbuntu> launchpad is where you report bugs
[11:29] <smallfoot-> then what ppl do in +1?
[11:29] <Hobbsee> if you can't follow the rules repeatedly, you're not welcome there, no matter what else you do.
[11:29] <elkbuntu> troubleshoot
[11:29] <Nafallo> help out with the current development release.
[11:30]  * Hobbsee leaves smallfoot- to his time wasting
[11:30]  * Hobbsee --> dinner
[11:30] <smallfoot-> Nafallo, how? by talking?
[11:31] <Nafallo> smallfoot-: ehrm. this is IRC dude... how about writing text to each other? :-)
[11:31] <smallfoot-> idk
[11:31] <smallfoot-> that helps out the develkopment release?
[11:33] <elkbuntu> smallfoot-, you are wasting time by persisting with dialog in this channel, when you have been told to go away and come back in an entire week's time.
[11:33]  * Myrtti gives Nafallo a lollipop
[11:34] <Nafallo> oooh
[11:34] <smallfoot-> one week is long time
[11:34] <smallfoot-> i get angry
[11:34] <Myrtti> oh noes
[11:34] <Myrtti> how can we live with THAT
[11:34] <smallfoot-> this is unfair, if i was the boss guy, then nobody could banned me, and i could ban them
[11:35] <Myrtti> ...
[11:35] <smallfoot-> who made the people in #ubuntu-ops become boss guy of all rooms?
[11:35] <elkbuntu> we earned our roles. you havent.
[11:35] <smallfoot-> oh
[11:35] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: this isn't supermario bros where you can win the game by beating out the boss enemy
[11:35] <smallfoot-> well, im sick of getting banned, and picked on, i want to be a boss guy too, so nobody can ban me from the rooms
[11:36] <elkbuntu> smallfoot-, /join ##smallfoot
[11:36] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: well, you're moving further and further away from that goal
[11:36] <Gary> the ops in this channel are not on a power trip, they are here to assist effective communications in the channels they operate
[11:36] <smallfoot-> elkbuntu, yeah i created my own room so i could be the boss guy, but then they stole my channel from me, and banned me
[11:36] <elkbuntu> smallfoot-, what channel did you make?
[11:36] <smallfoot-> elkbuntu, #ubuntu-social
[11:37] <elkbuntu> you stole our name for your channel? how rude!
[11:37] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: you aren't allowed to make a channel with #ubuntu in the name
[11:37] <gnomefreak> smallfoot-: that will be taken down most likely
[11:37] <smallfoot-> elkbuntu, no i didnt, because nobody owns ubuntu, it belongs to all, because its communism
[11:37] <Myrtti> says who
[11:37] <Myrtti> says you.
[11:37] <smallfoot-> idk
[11:37] <elkbuntu> ubuntu is a trademarked name
[11:37] <smallfoot-> well, why they steal it from africa and trademark it?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> smallfoot-: yes conaical owns it we had a meeting about it maybe a year ago
[11:38] <gnomefreak> canonical even
[11:38] <smallfoot-> think if i trademark "hi" then you can never say it?
[11:38] <elkbuntu> it's common language. ubuntu isnt even in the language it's from.
[11:39] <smallfoot-> canonical should invent an own word like bododbulu instead of stealing an african word, did they ask the africa ppl if they could take ubuntu from them?
[11:39] <Nafallo> smallfoot-: you might want to read up on what trademarks are to begin with. you're on deep water when you discuss things you don't know about as if you had authority.
[11:39] <smallfoot-> oh
[11:39] <elkbuntu> trademark law is tricky, but you have to face that canonical has trademarked ubuntu.
[11:40] <elkbuntu> plus, calling ubuntu communism is a serious faux pas.
[11:40] <smallfoot-> oh
[11:40] <smallfoot-> my friend said it was commisum, because its free and you share it
[11:40] <Myrtti> ohhohhoh.
[11:40] <elkbuntu> your friend hasnt a clue about communism
[11:40] <smallfoot-> and thats why russia and china likes it, but usa only lieks microsoft
[11:40] <elkbuntu> because communists share things, doesnt mean everyone who shares this is a communist
[11:41] <gnomefreak> russia is heading that way again but is not communist fully
[11:41] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: this is going nowhere
[11:41] <Flannel> school children are all taught to be communists then, apparently.
[11:41] <elkbuntu> this is political and so not appropriate for here
[11:41] <smallfoot-> ok
[11:41] <Myrtti> I've got a weird feeling
[11:41] <Gary> now you are just wasting time, I'd advise to read up on trademark law, ubuntu with regards to computing, software and operating systems belongs to canonical, same as apple in the same context belongs to apple inc
[11:41] <elkbuntu> Flannel, oh noetry.
[11:42] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: just out of curiosity... and don't answer if you don't feel its comfortable...
[11:42] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: how old are you?
[11:42] <smallfoot-> 12
[11:42] <gnomefreak> Gary: freenode shouldnt allow registration of #ubuntu channels for anything other than official reasons
[11:42] <Flannel> elkbuntu: Is that "oh no"-etry? or something else that is completely over my head?
[11:42] <elkbuntu> Flannel, toothpastefordinner
[11:42] <gnomefreak> non registered channel should still be shut down by hand
[11:43] <gnomefreak> the above is IMO
[11:43] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: come back in a week
[11:43] <Gary> gnomefreak: it'd be hard to stop the channels being registered, but once reported we can ensure they are passed to the proper group contact
[11:43] <smallfoot-> well, then they should have said "I am sorry to inform you sir, but you have a channel which violates the naming policy, would you like me to rename it for you?" instead of "haha, pwnt!! BANNED!! NOW ITS MY CHANNEL!"
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Gary: ah
[11:43] <smallfoot-> because they banned me, and it was men
[11:43] <smallfoot-> mean
[11:44] <Gary> smallfoot-: you cannot "rename" a channel, you can only drop it or forward it to another
[11:44] <gnomefreak> smallfoot-: you are just giving them ideas
[11:44]  * Hobbsee can't believe this is *still* going
[11:44] <Gary> Hobbsee: me too
[11:44] <Myrtti> Hobbsee: just walk away
[11:44] <smallfoot-> Gary, they should have forward it to ##ubuntu-social, instead of steal it and redirect it to their own
[11:44] <Hobbsee> Myrtti: i'm about to - i only came back for something else
[11:44] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: but we already have #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:44] <gnomefreak> now im not sure about rules on ## channels
[11:44] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, it's still rude.
[11:44] <smallfoot-> Myrtti, yeah, but i was banned from it, so i wanted my own room where i was the boss
[11:45] <elkbuntu> smallfoot-, why not ##smallfoot then?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: rude or against policy?
[11:45] <smallfoot-> elkbuntu, because i want chat about ubuntu, not about me
[11:45] <Dave2> gnomefreak, what sort of rules?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ##smallfoot-social
[11:45] <Gary> smallfoot-: that depends on what the group contact requests, since the #ubuntu* is under the control of the group contact, they can forward it to where they see fit
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Dave2: ubuntu owns ubuntu name space
[11:45] <gnomefreak> canonical owns it
[11:45] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, against our policy at least
[11:45] <Myrtti> so...
[11:46] <gnomefreak> against tradmake policy
[11:46] <Dave2> gnomefreak, ## channels are unofficial; policy states that people affiliated with the project cannot register a ## channel about it.
[11:46] <gnomefreak> whatever they put in it
[11:46] <elkbuntu> Dave2, trademark law gives the power of a cease and desist.
[11:46] <Myrtti> krhm
[11:46]  * Flannel has succesfully consumed a corndog.  You all needed to know.
[11:46] <smallfoot-> everybody is against me, they ban me from all rooms, when i create my own room so that im the boss guy, then people steal it from me and ban me, everyone is against me
[11:46] <gnomefreak> another one to learn :(
[11:46] <Dave2> I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not commenting on legal implications for this reason.
[11:46] <Myrtti> I believe this discussion has gone a bit far from the original point
[11:47] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: your way of putting things isn't raising empathy
[11:47] <gnomefreak> why cant people stay with the "things" that are already made
[11:47] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: word *steal* and *against* are a bit strong
[11:47] <smallfoot-> well if they werent against me, they wouldnt ban me. if they didnt steal my channel, i would still have it, but i dont
[11:47] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: the people who you alledge *stole* from you and are *against* you are present on this channel, if I'm not wrong
[11:48] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: no, you wouldn't have that channel
[11:48] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: no matter what
[11:48] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: the name of it is against the naming policy, period
[11:48] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: no buts
[11:48] <gnomefreak> smallfoot-: yuou have wrong idea. WE dont steal channels freenode drops the channel do to trademark laws
[11:49] <elkbuntu> Flannel, http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/022005/bad-poetry.gif
[11:49] <gnomefreak> WE ban you for not following the rules and guidelines in #ubuntu channels. you had broke them that is why you were banned. If you ask oftem to remove it the banner will only make it longer
[11:49] <Flannel> elkbuntu: thanks, Ive been looking.  google wasn't helping.
[11:50] <elkbuntu> Flannel, toothpastefordinner isnt very google-friendly
[11:50] <gnomefreak> yummy, toothpaste for dinner :(
[11:50] <gnomefreak> i want mouthwash for dinner
[11:50] <smallfoot-> thats like when my dad beats me, and he says if i cry, he will beat me more
[11:50] <Myrtti> oh yay
[11:50] <Myrtti> now were going into this direction
[11:51] <elkbuntu> smallfoot-, that's an issue for you and a trusted adult to deal with. completely unrelated to this.
[11:51] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: so far you've not shown any signs of understanding the rules
[11:51] <Flannel> smallfoot-: If you followed the rules to begin with, you'd never be banned in the first place.  Come back in a week.
[11:51] <smallfoot-> Myrtti, maybe im not so good at understanding things, its not my fault
[11:51] <elkbuntu> however, i suspect it's probably wise that you be accompanied by an adult at all times on the internet, so they can guide you to proper behaviour.
[11:51] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: ...
[11:52] <elkbuntu> smallfoot-, where in the world are you anyway?
[11:52] <Myrtti> Sweden
[11:52] <smallfoot-> hey, how can you know this? i have secret cloak
[11:52] <gnomefreak> im not so sure the above statment follows outside USA
[11:53] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, i didnt say it was law.
[11:53] <Nafallo> smallfoot-: how many 12 years old speaks Swedish? :-)
[11:53] <gnomefreak> smallfoot-: cloaks do not make you invisable
[11:53] <smallfoot-> i dont know
[11:53] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: neither did i
[11:53] <smallfoot-> oh
[11:53] <smallfoot-> the one harry potter have does
[11:53] <gnomefreak> statement
[11:53] <gnomefreak> they say it everywhere on tv in the US
[11:54] <smallfoot-> gnomefreak, ps. you can change number of virtual desktop if you use metacity, but not if you have compiz on
[11:54] <Myrtti> to be honest
[11:54] <gnomefreak> thought it was other way around since i couldnt find it
[11:54] <Myrtti> I find it hard to believe you are 12
[11:55] <Myrtti> ESPRESSO!!!!11
[11:55]  * gnomefreak thought a bit older like 16-18ish
[11:55] <gnomefreak> but im not good at guessing ages
[11:56] <elkbuntu> smallfoot-, you've been told to come back in a week. i'd advise you take the guidelines away and have an adult explain them to you if you're having difficulty understanding them. in a week's time you can come back and show how much you've learned.
[11:56] <smallfoot-> ok
[11:56] <smallfoot-> i dont like rules and police, i want do what i want do
[11:56] <smallfoot-> i want to be the boss of myself
[11:57] <elkbuntu> that's not how the world works
[11:57] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: too bad
[11:57] <smallfoot-> oh
[11:57] <elkbuntu> i'm nearly 27, and i still have to follow rules all the time
[11:57] <elkbuntu> if i didnt, i'd speed and kill people on the roads, etc. rules are always for a reason.
[11:57]  * Myrtti hears her age crisis choochooing it's way in again
[12:01] <Tm_T> Myrtti: just wait to reach my age...
[12:01] <elkbuntu> smallfoot-, to come back, you must first go away.
[12:01] <Myrtti> Tm_T: shuddup
[12:03] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, yeah, those granny carts are lethal
[12:04] <PFA> Myrtti: you should probably re-ban the mibbit cloak from before
[12:04] <PFA> i'm on a diff one now but whatever...
[12:04] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: very
[12:05]  * Tm_T hugs young Myrtti padawan
[12:05] <Flannel> mmm, thats greek isnt it.
[12:05] <Myrtti> PFA: you should be able to join -ot again
[12:06]  * PFA hugs Myrtti
[12:06] <PFA> thanks
[12:08] <Myrtti> smallfoot-: so, is there anything else?
[12:11] <elkbuntu> smallfoot-, this isnt a channel to idle in
[12:13] <PFA> Myrtti: thanks <3 i gotta go now... should probably reset the bans. sorry for the trouble.\
[12:13] <Myrtti> PFA: no probs
[12:13] <PFA> <3bye
[12:13] <Myrtti> ♥
[12:14] <Tm_T> he has so much to learn about life yet... :(
[12:14] <Myrtti> I don't believe he was 12
[12:14] <Myrtti> 14 or 15 perhaps
[12:15] <Myrtti> but not 12
[12:15] <Flannel> Why not 12?
[12:15] <Tm_T> I don't really care about his age, my statement still applies ;)
[12:15] <Myrtti> Tm_T: true
[12:16] <Myrtti> Flannel: for what I see at -se and how he grasped foreign concepts so fast...
[12:16] <Flannel> Myrtti: Ah.  You've got more data!  cheater :)
[12:16] <Myrtti> :-P
[12:22] <elkbuntu> yeah i'd go for 14. he hasnt yet accomplished the concept of why rules are necessary, and why breaking them is bad.
[12:22] <elkbuntu> but his language skills are exceeding that of a pre-teen
[12:23] <Nafallo> I'd not agree with the language skills, coming from Sweden and all ;-)
[12:24] <Nafallo> he've had three years of English in school and mass exposure to it in regular life.
[12:24] <Myrtti> language skills I've don't agree with
[12:24] <Myrtti> but foreign concepts
[12:24] <Myrtti> like "naming policy"
[12:25] <Nafallo> can we be sure he understood though?
[12:25] <Myrtti> true
[12:25] <Myrtti> maybe it is 12 then
[12:25] <Nafallo> he seems to be the kind that says they've understood when they inface haven't.
[12:25] <Nafallo> s/ace/act/
[12:27] <elkbuntu> Nafallo, we can be sure he didnt.
[12:28] <elkbuntu> we can be sure he's a compulsive liar, who'll try anything to get his own way
[12:28] <Myrtti> "Miia, it's a bad idea to consider making a third pot of espresso no matter how good it tastes"
[12:28] <elkbuntu> haha
[12:28] <Nafallo> elkbuntu: that's not my impression though.
[12:28] <Tm_T> Myrtti: no, if you make it for me ;)
[12:28] <Nafallo> Myrtti: no, it isn't :-)
[12:29] <Myrtti> I ran out of milk though...
[12:29] <Nafallo> Myrtti: ...but I should have let you taste some of my regular energydrinks ;-)
[12:29] <elkbuntu> Nafallo, this will be 18 'cups' at the end of the third pot
[12:29] <Myrtti> BUT I do have cream
[12:29] <Myrtti> yeah, it's 6 espresso cups per pot
[12:29] <Nafallo> Myrtti: ooh. cloudberry spirit? ;-)
[12:29] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2702779009/
[12:29] <elkbuntu> eww, cream
[12:30] <Nafallo> Myrtti: I need to hold off that one until I feel less icky though :-/
[12:44] <gnomefreak> in irssi is there a way to set a backup nick?
[12:45] <Dave2> /set alternate_nick
[12:45] <Myrtti> ♥
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Dave2: that only sets it for this session?
[12:47] <jpds> gnomefreak: /save
[12:47] <Dave2> /save?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> so /set.... <enter> than /save<enter>?
[12:49] <jpds> Yes.
[12:49] <gnomefreak> thanks
[12:49] <gnomefreak> i couldnt find it in docs anywhere for irssi
[12:52] <jpds> curl http://irssi.org/documentation/startup | grep --colour=always nick
[12:53] <Myrtti> hiya unca ompaul
[12:55] <ompaul> harrow boat club
[12:55]  * ompaul blinks
[12:55] <ompaul> morning
[12:55] <ompaul> again
[12:55] <ompaul> actually afternoon
[13:29] <thunderstruck> yay it works ;)
[13:31]  * jpds strikes Donner.
[13:40] <elkbuntu> hmm, dmseg is active in defocus, he'll probably show up here sometime
[13:40] <elkbuntu> he's being honest there though, calling himself a noob that doesnt know stuff, as opposed to the god of all creation he tries to proclaim himself here
[13:45] <ikonia> he's logged off
[13:46] <gnomefreak> whats up with bot?
[13:46] <elkbuntu> he's always on and off
[13:46] <ikonia> in what way
[13:46] <gnomefreak> ubottu: test
[13:46] <Myrtti> !ping
[13:46] <elkbuntu> laggy
[13:47] <Myrtti> I suspect someone is fooling around with it
[13:47] <ikonia> Hm, that is a tad slow
[13:47] <ikonia> probably the connection its on
[13:47] <elkbuntu> you should be able to set it to report anything said in PM to a terminal or something
[13:50] <PriceChild> it appears in the terminal it is running in afaik
[13:50] <jpds> I find it logs it all.
[13:50] <jpds> think*
[14:00] <elkbuntu> then someone should be able to check
[14:02] <ompaul> !ping
[14:18] <Tm_T> hi ompaul son
[14:19] <ompaul> Tm_T, I saw your photo
[14:20] <ompaul> Tm_T, I calls your blog^wbluff :)
[14:20] <ompaul> help wanted I am about to ask a question in -offtopic
[14:20] <Tm_T> you did? how long it took you to survive from the shock?
[14:22] <ompaul> I am still alive
[14:24] <Tm_T> ompaul: btw what photo exactly? this one? http://koti.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temps-01.jpg
[14:25] <ompaul> Tm_T, one random one that a person had
[14:25] <ompaul> last weekend :)
[14:25] <Tm_T> if it was from Myrtti, it wasn't random, I guess ;(
[14:25]  * Myrtti hides
[14:25] <Myrtti> twasn't me
[14:25] <Myrtti> :-P
[14:25] <Tm_T> <3
[14:26] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I hope you did warn them beforehand
[14:30] <Myrtti> I did
[14:31] <Tm_T> good ];=
[14:33] <Tm_T> ompaul: the nightmares will eventually stop, I hope
[14:33] <ompaul> haha
[14:33] <ompaul> Tm_T, search flikr for ompaul
[14:33] <Tm_T> ompaul: oh, I know, you handsome son
[14:33] <ompaul> haha
[14:34] <Myrtti> he is
[14:34] <ompaul>  /cs lart Tm_T
[14:34] <ompaul> heheh
[14:34] <ompaul> that btw is the big one
[14:34] <jpds> thunderstruck: Having trouble?
[14:35] <Myrtti> yeah, LRL was success. Lots of cute Linux geeks to drool over
[14:35] <Mez> including me :)
[14:36] <Myrtti> you said it, not me ;-)
[14:36] <Mez> :O :(
[14:36] <Myrtti> yes, including you
[14:36] <Mez> >_< :)
[14:37] <Myrtti> ompaul has that grayish charm
[14:37]  * Mez just remembers you coming out of the novotel "YAY I HUGGED JONO!"
[14:38]  * Myrtti blushes
[14:38] <Myrtti> well he is cute
[14:39] <Myrtti> and GNOMEish.
[14:39] <Dave2> o_O
[14:39] <Myrtti> I forgive his KDEism as folly of youth
[14:39] <Mez> hey, he started in KDE...
[14:39]  * ompaul runs away
[14:40]  * Dave2 imagines a jono garden gnome...
[14:40] <Mez> fine, yes, I know - I'm not good enough...
[14:40] <Mez> damn that KDE
[14:40] <ompaul> Dave2, that is so easy
[14:40] <ompaul> Dave2, with you as the troll under the bridge
[14:40] <ompaul> :)
[14:40]  * ompaul runs
[14:40] <ompaul> back in a bit
[14:41]  * Dave2 heads off to shops
[14:41]  * Mez is obviously procrastinating and cant be bothered to pack :(
[14:41] <Myrtti> I should head off to buy hay
[14:42] <Myrtti> shops are almost closing
[14:42] <Myrtti> well, in > hour
[14:42]  * Dave2 will miss his fan when outside. Tooooo hot.
[14:42] <Myrtti> hey, I can't be fan for all of you
[14:42] <Myrtti> :-P
[14:42] <Myrtti> s/for/of/
[14:43] <Dave2> :(
[14:43] <Myrtti> I guess I'll have to pick the kyuuutest
[14:43] <Mez> fuck
[14:43] <Mez> I just sent myself 3 weeks of backlog
[14:43] <Myrtti> GJ!
[14:45]  * Myrtti heads off to shop
[14:45] <Tm_T> KDE <3
[14:46] <Mez> eeeeeeeeppppp
[14:47] <nalioth> don't spend too much money, Myrtti
[15:08]  * Tm_T dances with Grateful Dead - Turn On Your Love Light <3<3
[15:18] <bazhang> Taylor_Roncancio, CALEB_COOLDUDE, R_I_C_K_I, BraWearerTaylor spamming on join #ubuntu; complaints by several users
[15:18] <jpds> Already acted upon.
[15:18] <jpds> bazhang: I just /cycle'd and got nothing.
[15:18] <bazhang> ah thanks; same here jpds
[15:19] <Myrtti> nalioth: never do
[15:19] <Myrtti> nalioth: didn't even in LRL
[15:20] <Myrtti> nalioth: just needed to resupply in milk and hay
[15:23] <jpds> bazhang: No PMs here... I feel unloved.
[15:23] <bazhang> jpds, hehe seems endemic though
[15:29] <jpds> What's with all the spambot talk in #ubuntu and #freenode?
[15:29] <bazhang> not sure; seems rather severe though
[15:33] <Myrtti>  it's always Nanook@ip98-169-172-120.dc.dc.cox.net with several
[15:33] <Myrtti>                   nicknames. being long discussed in #freenode
[15:33] <nalioth> hay?
[15:33] <Myrtti> ooooh, guineapigs going bonkers
[15:33] <Myrtti> nalioth: hay
[15:33] <Myrtti> nalioth: guinea pigs' diet includes dry hay
[15:34] <Myrtti> [smellynoser] AllMenWearBras just spammed me
[15:34] <jpds> nalioth: Test nick did it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30571/
[15:34] <nalioth> Myrtti: i was not aware of that.
[15:35] <nalioth> filthy spammers
[15:37] <jpds> Hopefully that's that done.
[15:37] <Mez> who's is floodbot1 ?
[15:38] <nalioth> Mez: it's currently on LJL's box
[15:38] <Mez> :(
[15:38] <Mez> Its lagging out
[15:38] <nalioth> that is why we have 3
[15:38] <jpds> I have a box should a host be needed.
[15:39] <Mez> It's not that, they're in emergency for no reason
[15:42] <nalioth> this is how they're programmed, Mez
[15:43] <nalioth> how do you know the bot isn't on an irc server that is lagging out?
 WARNING: ChanServ is not replying, removing limit
[15:43] <PriceChild> isn't that the reason?
[15:43] <Mez> nalioth, Please, don't tell me how they're programmed. I know what's going on. I wrote part of the code, and I also re-wrote it into an OO manner.
[15:43] <Myrtti> but it does reply...
[15:44] <PriceChild> Myrtti: sure, but at that point, floodbot1 decided it wasn't.
[15:44] <Mez> Myrtti, Floodbot1 WAS laggging out, I did a ping test, it isnt any longer, but it mistakenly called the chanserv call.
[15:44] <Myrtti> PriceChild: then why aren't they recovering to normal status?
[15:44] <Mez> I forced it back so as not to have to wait X minutes
[15:44] <Myrtti> yup
[15:44] <Mez> they are normal status
[15:44] <PriceChild> Myrtti: just takes a few minutes
[15:45] <Myrtti> Mez: ok, past tense, why weren't they...
[15:45] <Myrtti> meh
[15:45] <PriceChild> because it takes a few minutes until they are sure
[15:45] <Mez> PriceChild, which is why I tested and forced back.
[15:45]  * Myrtti goes to make third pot of espresso
[15:45] <PriceChild> Mez: yes...?
[15:46] <Mez> PriceChild, I forced it back to save us those few minutes (up to 6 IIRC)
[15:46] <PriceChild> Mez: *I know*
[15:47]  * Myrtti offers chocolate cookies to everyone
[15:47] <PriceChild> I haven't questioned that, was just trying to explain to Myrtti.
[15:47]  * Myrtti hides
[15:47] <Mez> PriceChild, I was just clarifying for other people so they don't bitch at me for messing with things I don't know about.
[15:47] <Myrtti> :-<
[15:47] <Myrtti> pweeep
[15:47] <PriceChild> and earlier, point out that there was a reason for them setting themselves as emergency mode, despite that reason nolonger existing
[15:47] <Mez> (as has happened plenty of times before)
[15:47] <PriceChild> Mez: Nobody is bitching at you.
[15:48] <Mez> PriceChild, never mind - I'll explain in /query
[15:48] <PriceChild> Unless they are bitching at you in PM right now?
[15:55] <Myrtti> meh, I need more coffee I think
[15:55] <Myrtti> and a backrub
[15:57]  * Mez gives Myrtti a back rub
[15:57] <PriceChild> Myrtti: and Mez, sitting in a tree
[15:57] <Mez> PriceChild, just returning the favour from LRL
[15:58] <Mez> PriceChild, R U B B I N G?
[15:58]  * Mez chuckles
[15:59]  * Myrtti signs in for piriformis muscle replacement
[15:59]  * Mez realises hor wrong that sounds
[15:59] <Myrtti> hm, it's almost to day year ago when my back broke
[16:00] <Myrtti> or had acute phase
[16:00] <Myrtti> atleast I can walk normally now and it doesn't show up any other times than when I have to tie my shoelaces
[16:00] <Mez> Myrtti, 20 years ago .... tomorrow when I was diagnosed with MED.
[16:01] <Mez> (or, when I was diagnosed with what they now know is MED)
[16:02] <Myrtti> :-/
[16:03]  * Myrtti shows her tongue to PriceChild
[16:03] <Myrtti> bleh.
[16:04] <Mez> !repos
[16:06] <jussi01> hrm, I just spent 700¤ on credit...
[16:06] <Mez> typed an extra 0 by accident ?
[16:06] <Myrtti> jussi01: tut tut
[16:07] <Myrtti> jussi01: flights to OZ?
[16:07] <jussi01> Myrtti: nope
[16:07] <Myrtti> hmph
[16:07] <jussi01> new couch
[16:07] <jussi01> :D
[16:07] <PriceChild> Myrtti: what'd i do? :O
[16:07] <Mez> oh, "on credit"
[16:07] <Myrtti> was going to suggest you'd buy me plane tickets too but nevermind then
[16:07] <Mez> PriceChild, I think it was a response to
 Myrtti: and Mez, sitting in a tree
[16:07] <jussi01> rofl
[16:09] <Nafallo> I had £1124 debit on my creditcard and about £130 on my debit...
[16:10] <Nafallo> :-/
[16:10] <Myrtti> I think I got away with LRL quite cheap, 330ish for flights and 140ish for the hotel
[16:10] <Myrtti> in euros
[16:10] <jussi01> nice
[16:11] <Nafallo> Myrtti: train?
[16:11] <Myrtti> £6ish
[16:11] <Nafallo> hmm. nice train :-P
[16:11] <Myrtti> oh, and the bus in Finland of course, but those I paid with cash
[16:11] <Nafallo> £41 on train ;-)
[16:11] <Myrtti> Nafallo: I flew to Birmingham
[16:11] <Nafallo> ya. a bit closer :-)
[16:11] <Mez> Myrtti, and I paid for the train ticket there... :P
[16:12] <Mez> Nafallo, my train ticket was £2.80 there and £2.20 back
[16:12] <Myrtti> yeah, only because you managed to pay it before I realized it myself
[16:12] <jussi01> Myrtti: page 3, top middle, 699¤ http://www.koti-idea.fi/kuvasto
[16:12] <Mez> Myrtti, I didnt want to miss the train - it was a lot easier for me just to press the right buttons, as it's trained in my muscle memory
[16:13] <Myrtti> jussi01: if only that would work with swfdec
[16:13] <jussi01> Myrtti: :/
[16:14] <Myrtti> but hey, atleast my X doesn't crash anymore!
[16:14] <Nafallo> Myrtti: WIN
[16:14]  * Mez slaps Nafallo for his LRL fail
[16:14] <Nafallo> Mez: no you dont.
[16:15] <Nafallo> Mez: you haven't got allowance for random slaps.
[16:15] <Mez> Nafallo, ?
[16:15] <Myrtti> LRL fail?
[16:15] <Myrtti> where was I?
[16:15] <jussi01> someone go calm them down in -ot please...
[16:15] <Myrtti> is it on video?
[16:15] <Mez> he signed up for the keysigning and didnt turn up
[16:16] <Mez> Myrtti, actually, that was a fair comment by NeT_DeMoN
[16:16] <Nafallo> sure sure. this is starting to get long run... please find something new to do in your spare time
 or I'll crap up my whip
[16:17]  * Myrtti checks her backlog
[16:18] <Mez> jussi01, can you disable @lart in -ot ?
[16:20] <Myrtti> ^ +1
[16:21] <jussi01> sure
[16:22] <bazhang> lart always did me wrong
[16:22] <Mez> !Coc | keith-
[16:22] <Mez> !Coc > keith-
[16:23] <Myrtti> http://youtube.com/watch?v=RfkucaGv0oA AHAHAHAHHAHHAHA
[16:28]  * Mez is dealing with keith -  temporary mute in -offtopic
[16:29] <jussi01> [18:28:48] <jussi01> @unload Lart
[16:29] <jussi01> [18:28:49] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[16:29] <jussi01> :)
[16:29] <Mez> ty
[16:29] <Myrtti> ♥
[16:29] <Myrtti> jussi01: I don't understand why you loaded it in the first place
[16:29] <Myrtti> :-/
[16:30] <jussi01> Myrtti: nm...
[16:31] <Mez> hmm - I'm procrastinating by doing op stuff... :(
[16:31] <jussi01> lol
[16:37] <jussi01> right...
[16:37] <Myrtti> right.
[16:37]  * Mez headdesks
[16:37] <jussi01> I think the discussion has gone far enough badmouthing sev dont you think?
[16:37] <Myrtti> yup
[16:38] <Mez> whats the irc council email addy?
[16:42] <Mez> apparently, talks about sexuality is family friendly, and appropriate for minors
[16:42] <jussi01> Mez: I dont think so
[16:42] <jussi01> lol
[16:42] <jussi01> Mez: was that keith?
[16:43] <Mez> yup
[16:44] <jussi01> heh
[16:56] <Mez> o_O
[16:56] <Mez> what happened there?
[16:56] <Myrtti> nothing much
[16:56] <Myrtti> just triggerhappy trigger usage
[16:58] <bazhang> me suspects stmartin is steff1 from earlier
[16:59] <Myrtti> might be
[17:00] <bazhang> same exact problem and attitude
[17:00] <Mez> PriceChild, pingh
[17:00] <Mez> grr
[17:01] <Mez> PriceChild / nalioth / elkbuntu  ... ping
[17:02] <Mez> http://rafb.net/p/8TRkne71.html
[17:04] <nalioth> noted, Mez
[17:05] <Mez> nalioth, cool, just so you know what to expect ;)
[17:06] <bazhang> stmartin
[17:06] <bazhang> cursing in russian
[17:07] <Mez> was gonna kf him to -bots :P
[17:07] <bazhang> haha
[17:11] <bazhang> would hate to be an operator in -ru
[17:11] <Mez> I think I was at one point
[17:11] <bazhang> wow
[17:11] <Myrtti> I'm not commenting that in any way
[17:11] <bazhang> incredible number of ru speakers spamming today
[17:12] <Mez> bazhang, just the same one over and over again
[17:12] <bazhang> Mez, same guy? no wonder
[17:18] <bazhang> he has twins then
[17:19] <nickrud> might be ukranian
[17:19] <bazhang> seems to be russian
[17:20] <nickrud> heh. Odds are good, but since I don't read cyrillic
[17:20]  * bazhang does
[17:21] <nickrud> I looked up one, numbskull ;)
[17:23] <Mez> nickrud, !attitude
[17:23] <nickrud> Mez silly you, that was a translation.
[17:23] <Mez> :P
[17:24] <Mez> then it should have been : not ,  :P
[17:24] <bazhang> I wish I did not in this case however.
[18:48] <fyrestrtr> yes?
[18:48] <fyrestrtr> is this like the principle's office :/
[18:48] <Myrtti> yes
[18:48] <fyrestrtr> okay okay -- so I slipped :)
[18:48] <Myrtti> WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING?!
[18:49] <Myrtti> never - ever EVER say that in #ubuntu
[18:49] <fyrestrtr> yes yes I got it.
[18:49] <fyrestrtr> It was a slip.
[18:50] <Myrtti> make sure I don't see you doing that slip again
[18:50] <Myrtti> I iz not going to be happy then
[18:50] <fyrestrtr> yes sir
[18:50] <Myrtti> ma'am
[18:50] <Myrtti> akshully
[18:50]  * fyrestrtr walks away with head hanging in shame
[18:50] <fyrestrtr> ma'am
[18:51] <Myrtti> had I been fast enough, you'd be banned now
[18:51] <Myrtti> you realize that?
[18:51] <fyrestrtr> meh :/ its a bit of a stretch to ban.
[18:51] <Myrtti> no, not really
[18:51] <Myrtti> you know there are newbs in there
[18:51] <Myrtti> who do what ever you tell them to do
[18:52] <fyrestrtr> but anyway -- I got it now, all these years I've been helping and the first time I got kicked.
[18:52] <Myrtti> that command is *not* to be said by ANYONE
[18:52] <fyrestrtr> first time I slipped tbh :(
[18:52] <Myrtti> so, you know where you are now
[18:53] <Myrtti> no silly things like that again
[18:53] <Myrtti> no recursive removal magic
[18:54] <fyrestrtr> okay :)
[18:54]  * Myrtti larts fyrestrtr on the tush with a metal ruler
[18:54] <Nafallo> ouch
[18:54] <Myrtti> now go, before I change my mind
[18:54] <fyrestrtr> yeaouh
[18:54] <fyrestrtr> wait ..
[18:54] <fyrestrtr> do that again
[18:54] <Nafallo> lol
[18:54] <fyrestrtr> :P
[18:55] <Myrtti> mrtimdog: how may we help you tonight?
[18:55] <fyrestrtr> do that again :P
[18:55] <Myrtti> fyrestrtr: just go
[18:55] <fyrestrtr> okay okay I keed I keed
[18:55] <Myrtti> one... two... two and a half
[18:56] <mrtimdog> Myrtti: Hi, not after anything, just watching the goings on.
[18:56] <Myrtti> mrtimdog: see /topic
[18:56] <mrtimdog> np :)
[18:56]  * jpds wonders if there's a way to highlight rm -$$r$1*^f /
[18:57] <Myrtti> sure there is
[18:57] <PriceChild> There are lots of ways to say "sudo rm -rf /"
[18:57] <fyrestrtr> uh, I got banned :(
[18:57] <fyrestrtr> yes I already got spanked.
[18:57] <fyrestrtr> please unban me.
[18:57] <fyrestrtr> as I'd like to think I help more than I hurt.
[18:57]  * Myrtti hands the metal ruler to PriceChild 
[18:58] <PriceChild> fyrestrtr: We don't like malicious people in #ubuntu.
[18:58] <fyrestrtr> it was a silly slip.
[18:58] <fyrestrtr> check the logs if you have them from years ago.
[18:58] <fyrestrtr> and you'll see I've never been kicked or banned.
[18:58] <PriceChild> Myrtti: see http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=326
[18:59] <fyrestrtr> but if its policy to ban for a set period, then fine, I accept that.
[18:59] <Myrtti> PriceChild: I don't read forums, so *shrug*
[18:59] <PriceChild> fyrestrtr: people can format their partitions when installing another os on top. There is no need for that command.
[19:00] <PriceChild> fyrestrtr: if somebody is worrying about their tracks that they leave, then they should use more than rm
[19:00] <fyrestrtr> Look.
[19:00] <fyrestrtr> I understand that I made a mistake.
[19:00] <fyrestrtr> and that what I said may have led to mayhem.
[19:01] <fyrestrtr> But seriously, it was just a slip.
[19:01] <fyrestrtr> if you chose to ban me permanently, then fine.
[19:01] <fyrestrtr> I respect your policy, but I did not have any malicious intent.
[19:01] <fyrestrtr> I will just contribute in other ways.
[19:01] <fyrestrtr> regards,
[19:01] <PriceChild> I shouldn't have banned, was a mistake sorry.
[19:02] <fyrestrtr> Burhan Khalid <-- this is my real name.
[19:02] <fyrestrtr> you can look it up in launchpad / wiki
[19:07]  * Myrtti yawns
[19:07] <Myrtti> drinking fourth pot of espresso isn't a good idea this late
[19:07] <Pici> O.O
[19:10] <Pici> mtaylor: How can we help you today?
[19:10] <mtaylor> I was wondering if I could have an ubottu
[19:11] <mtaylor> or... if there's a place to grab him to run my own
[19:11] <mtaylor> in #drizzle
[19:11] <Pici> mtaylor: The latest revision of the ubottu code is https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak <- there, its just a few plugins for supybot.
[19:12] <mtaylor> ah...
[19:13] <mtaylor> ok. I grabbed tweak, but that was just plugins... nothing mentioned supybot...
[19:13] <mtaylor> I'll just do that
[19:13] <mtaylor> thanks
[19:13] <nalioth> what's a #drizzle?
[19:14] <Pici> A light rain?
[19:14] <mtaylor> :)
[19:14] <mtaylor> it's a fork/derivative of mysql
[19:15] <Myrtti> intresting... hm.
[19:15] <Myrtti> I didn't know their licence allowed that, but I guess I'm wrong
[19:15] <mtaylor> gpl
[19:16] <Myrtti> depends on viewpoint
[19:16] <Myrtti> anyway
[19:17] <mtaylor> cool... well thanks guys
[19:18] <Myrtti> of course that hostname would explain thing or two
[19:21] <Myrtti> hello Twilight_Wolf
[19:21] <Twilight_Wolf> Hey
[19:21] <Twilight_Wolf> Can you help me with an IRC server on Ubuntu?
[19:21] <Myrtti> how may we help you tonight?
[19:21] <Twilight_Wolf> I need help setting one up.
[19:21] <jpds> Twilight_Wolf: -> #ubuntu-server
[19:22] <Twilight_Wolf> ok
[19:22] <Twilight_Wolf> I see the URL now
[19:27] <Myrtti> Twilight_Wolf: is there anything else?
[19:28] <Twilight_Wolf> ummm
[19:28] <Twilight_Wolf> nope
[19:28] <Twilight_Wolf> nothing atm
[19:28] <Twilight_Wolf> !voice
[19:28] <Twilight_Wolf> !irc
[19:28] <Twilight_Wolf> !irchelp
[19:28] <Twilight_Wolf> !ircstats'
[19:28] <Twilight_Wolf> !ircstats
[19:28] <Myrtti> !idle
[19:28] <Pici> !topic
[19:29] <Twilight_Wolf> !idle
[19:30] <Myrtti> !idle > Twilight_Wolf
[19:30]  * Twilight_Wolf is away: Eating lunch at McDonalds
[19:30] <Pici> ...
[19:30] <Myrtti> oookkkkeeeyyy
[19:30]  * Myrtti hides
[19:30] <Pici> fcol
[19:30] <TW|AWAY> !idle > Myrtti
[19:31] <nalioth> sorry, Myrtti
[19:31] <Pici> cheater
[19:31] <Myrtti> that just set my teeth on edge
[19:31] <nalioth> TW|AWAY: can we help you?
[19:31] <TW|AWAY> im eating
[19:31] <TW|AWAY> let me stay here
[19:31] <nalioth> yes, and being rude
[19:31] <Pici> Why?
[19:31] <jpds> !away | TW|AWAY
[19:31] <TW|AWAY> I want to
[19:31] <Pici> TW|AWAY: Do you understand what this channel is for?
[19:31] <Myrtti> what part of "this channel has no idling policy" did you not understand?
[19:32] <TW|AWAY> sorry
[19:32] <nalioth> TW|AWAY: do you understand the /topic here?
[19:32] <TW|AWAY> lemme eat!
[19:32] <TW|AWAY> bai
[19:32] <nalioth> you can come back when you're done
[19:32] <TW|AWAY> WAIT
[19:32] <TW|AWAY> there are tons of idlers here
[19:32] <Myrtti> nope, not really
[19:32] <TW|AWAY> take Gary as an example
[19:32]  * Myrtti doesn't see any
[19:33] <nalioth> take TW|AWAY for example
[19:33] <TW|AWAY> ...
[19:33] <jpds> TW|AWAY: G.ary is a member of staff.
[19:33] <TW|AWAY> why are there extra voices here that are idle?
[19:33] <nalioth> it's always best to mind ones own business
[19:33]  * jpds wishes he would turn off the away message thing for once.
[19:34] <Seeker`> howdy
[19:34] <jpds> 'lo Seeker`
[20:46] <Myrtti> lol
[20:47] <Myrtti> http://myrtti.jaiku.com/presence/40935900
[22:04] <PriceChild> !no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:04] <PriceChild> gah
[22:06] <Seeker`> PriceChild: o/
[22:06] <PriceChild> Allo Seeker`
[22:07] <Seeker`> PriceChild: how be?
[22:08] <PriceChild> good, enjoying the weekend
[22:09] <Seeker`> weekend is good :)
[22:09] <Dave2> weekdays have air conditioned office :(
[22:10] <Seeker`> not for me they dont
[22:10] <Seeker`> hopefully soon
[23:00]  * ompaul goes away
[23:07] <Flannel> can anyone handle that?
[23:07] <Mez> hes gone
[23:09] <Mez> @login
[23:09] <Mez> @btlogin
[23:29] <PriceChild> eyes on operator
[23:30] <Flannel> PriceChild: What?
[23:30] <Flannel> Oh, I'm on it.  Already kicked him once
[23:30] <PriceChild> in #ubuntu
[23:58] <Flannel> oh bother.  Where's my audible ping.
[23:59]  * PriceChild notices his distraction has worn off.