[00:01]  * Arby leaves multimedia compiling and goes to sleep
[00:01] <Arby> see you tomorrow folks
[00:02] <a|wen> night apachelogger
[00:02] <a|wen> sry shoud've been Arby instead
[00:47] <JontheEchidna> ...and kdewebdev-kde4 is done
[00:50] <JontheEchidna> Only kdesdk, kdebindings, and kdebase-workspace left to go
[00:55] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: great!
[00:55] <JontheEchidna> oh, and l10n if we're doing it
[00:56] <JontheEchidna> oh, and multimedia and pim are in progress
[00:56] <JontheEchidna> so I guess it's a bit more than I though but we're still almost done. ;)
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> so what are the intrepid packages waiting for?
[01:00]  * JontheEchidna debuilds kdesdk
[01:07] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: I think the mainlines ones are all done for intrepid, still extragear to do
[01:15] <vorian> Riddell: linky?  :)
[01:16] <JontheEchidna> the batcave must be out of date then
[01:19] <Riddell>  /msg'ed
[01:19] <JontheEchidna> 1.666666 hour eta on kdesdk
[01:20] <vorian> thanks :)
[02:48] <jjesse> this is interesting, in vmware workstation when i try to click on anything on the task bar the configure panel section opens up
[02:49] <ScottK> jjesse: I was going to reply to your kubuntu-devel mail, but since you're here ...
[02:49] <jjesse> yes ScottK
[02:50] <ScottK> jjesse: We now have a KDE4 version of Guidance Power Manager in Intrepid.
[02:50] <jjesse> oh yay so i should try to use intrepid instead?
[02:50] <ScottK> So as long as the kernel supports suspend/resume for your hardware, it ought to work as well as KDE3 would have.
[02:50] <jjesse> good
[02:50] <ScottK> No promises.
[02:50] <jjesse> i wouldn't hold it to you
[02:51] <jjesse> my old hard drive was just too small to dual boot + run vms
[02:51] <ScottK> Personally, I'm not running intrepid yet, but I'm also happy in KDE3.
[02:52] <jjesse> i've b een running vista since hardy's release
[02:52] <jjesse> but don't tell anyone ;)
[02:57] <jjesse> wow that quieted the crowd :)
[02:57] <jjesse> anyways thanks for the info scott
[02:57] <jjesse> ScottK
[02:57] <jjesse> off to bed before the baby wakes up
[04:35] <nixternal> evenin' :)
[04:38] <vorian> yo!
[04:38] <nixternal> yo yo
[04:39] <vorian> how's things?
[04:40] <nixternal> busy as usual
[04:40] <crimsun> finished w/ school?
[04:40] <nixternal> went on a nice ride through Chicago last night, took a nice hot ride today, and I am working on planning out a 50+ mile ride for tomorrow
[04:40] <nixternal> ya, I dropped out of school yet again...went back to work, and starting riding my bikes hardcore again
[04:41] <crimsun> cool
[05:01] <vorian> whoot
[05:02] <vorian> that's enough for one night
[05:04] <vorian> apachelogger: you have a bunch of mail heading your way
[08:29] <Arby> apachelogger: does the batcave have tarballs for the extragear packages somewhere?
[09:22] <apachelogger> jeez
[09:24] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna, vorian, Arby, smarter: I love you guys!
[09:27] <Arby>  that's what we're here for :)
[09:28] <Arby> apachelogger: where can we get tarballs for extragear?
[09:28] <apachelogger> Arby: extragear in the batdirectory
[09:29] <apachelogger> 100% fresh :D
[09:29] <Arby> I see them, I didn't think that was there before :)
[09:29] <apachelogger> that is why they are 100% fresh
[09:29] <apachelogger> and not 99 or 80
[09:30] <Arby> are these just backports or do they need packaging for intrepid as well?
[09:30] <apachelogger> Arby: vorian already did them
[09:30] <Arby> ok cool
[09:30] <apachelogger> besides, I still think we should do them post-release and focus on QA for now :P
[09:31]  * apachelogger still has that user in mind claiming debian has better quality control 
[09:32] <Arby> ok so what do we need to do for testing?
[09:32] <Arby> I suppose I should try to whip up an intrepid vm just for fun
[09:33] <apachelogger> Arby: hardy testing is more important
[09:33] <apachelogger> for intrepid we can always say it's WIP ;-)
[09:33] <Arby> true true
[09:34]  * apachelogger wants a server for a prepreprepre-kde-release repo
[09:34] <Arby> have we got a list of stuff somewhere, other than the bug lists I mean
[09:35] <apachelogger> Arby: stuff?
[09:35] <Tm_T> don't stuff me!
[09:35] <Arby> to be tested
[09:35] <apachelogger> Arby: maybe Nightrose can come up with something
[09:35] <apachelogger> she is always complaining ;-)
[09:36] <Nightrose> haha
[09:36] <apachelogger> Arby: I suppose starting KDE 3 apps is broken for example
[09:36] <Nightrose> morning
[09:36] <Nightrose> right
[09:37] <Nightrose> also "recently opened files" in kate never worked so far in kde 4
[09:37] <apachelogger> well
[09:37] <apachelogger> that is upstreamish
[09:37] <apachelogger> doesn't work in intrepid either
[09:37] <Nightrose> is the dolphin crash fixed?
[09:37] <Nightrose> the one when you hover over video files
[09:37] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i know
[09:37] <Nightrose> ;-)
[09:38] <Nightrose> just trying to remember what i have been complaining about
[09:38]  * Arby opens kate
[09:38] <apachelogger> Arby: the video hover should be fixed with a newly compiled stack actually
[09:38]  * apachelogger thinks that was some abi breakage or something
[09:38] <Nightrose> is klipper starting up?
[09:39] <Nightrose> and can i start it without having to type "klipper" in krunner again now?
[09:39] <Nightrose> (auto starting that is)
[09:40] <Nightrose> hmm I think those are the things that bug me most right now ;-)
[09:40] <Arby> in dolphin, what is supposed to  happen if I hover on a video file. some sort of preview?
[09:40] <Nightrose> it should not crash if you have the info bar added ;-)
[09:41] <dotancohen> Hi all, first time here. I'm having a real hard time building Digikam SVN on Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4.1rc1
[09:41] <dotancohen> I can install all the dependencies,
[09:42] <Arby> ah, I don't. I'll add it back
[09:42] <dotancohen> but Digikam itself doesn't get through cmake
[09:42] <dotancohen> This is the end of cmake:
[09:42] <dotancohen> CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND.
[09:42] <dotancohen> Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files:
[09:42] <dotancohen> QT_QTOPENGL_LIBRARY (ADVANCED)
[09:42] <dotancohen>     linked by target "kipiplugin_slideshow" in directory /home/hardy/digikam-notes/graphics/kipi-plugins/slideshow
[09:42] <dotancohen>     linked by target "kipiplugin_imageviewer" in directory /home/hardy/digikam-notes/graphics/kipi-plugins/imageviewer
[09:42] <dotancohen> ...
[09:42] <apachelogger> dotancohen: #kde
[09:42] <apachelogger> or #kubuntu
[09:42] <apachelogger> or #kubuntu-kde4
[09:42] <dotancohen> I did try #kubuntu, they sent me here :)
[09:42] <apachelogger> cool
[09:43] <dotancohen> I'll try asking on #kubuntu-kde4 though I do think that the -devel channel is the right place
[09:43] <Arby> Nightrose: that would be a fail then
[09:43] <apachelogger> no it is not
[09:43] <apachelogger> dotancohen: who sent you hear
[09:43] <Arby> dolphin locks up hovering on a video file
[09:43]  * apachelogger needs to beat someone up :P
[09:44] <apachelogger> Arby: with a completely new stack?
[09:44] <Arby> no, this is 4.0.98
[09:44] <apachelogger> well, compile a stack and try again :P
[09:44]  * apachelogger can upload akonadi, soprano, automoc, phonon and kdelibs
[09:44] <Arby> what do you mean by stack exactly, recompile kde?
[09:45] <apachelogger> Arby: aye
[09:45] <apachelogger> actually
[09:45] <Arby> yikes
[09:45] <apachelogger> everything we updated
[09:46] <apachelogger> which are basically the above + runtime + workspace + base
[09:46] <apachelogger> Nightrose:   * Removed kubuntu_13_hide_klipper.diff:
[09:46] <apachelogger>     - Don't use NoDisplay since that breaks autostart
[09:46] <apachelogger>   * Fixed klipper.install not to install the desktop file
[09:46] <apachelogger> Nightrose: so, yes to the first
[09:46] <apachelogger> no to the second question
[09:47] <Arby> apachelogger: does neon do kde nightly builds?
[09:47] <Arby> just trying to think of alternatives
[09:47] <Arby> I don't really want to break this machine
[09:47] <apachelogger> Arby: well, that is my point :P
[09:47] <apachelogger> if it breaks your machine
[09:48] <apachelogger> we have a serious problem
[09:48]  * Arby spots a vm approaching
[09:48] <apachelogger> oh, runtime finished
[09:48] <Nightrose> apachelogger: cool
[09:48] <apachelogger> hoooray
[09:48] <Arby> which I will then be unable to report because my machine exploded :P
[09:49] <Arby> google says yes
[09:50] <apachelogger> Arby: you should know how to use irssi :P
[09:50] <apachelogger> hum
[09:50] <Arby> bye typing alt-f2 conversation :)
[09:50] <Arby> s/c/k/
[09:50] <apachelogger> my mediaserver server exploded
[09:52] <apachelogger> that looks pretty awful http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot052.png :S
[09:52]  * Arby rummages for a hardy cd
[09:52] <apachelogger> oh
[09:52] <apachelogger> but runtime finished
[09:52] <apachelogger> hooray
[10:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: did you not add kubuntu_09_kickoff_favourites.diff to workspace's series file by intention?
[10:14] <smarter> hey there
[10:22] <apachelogger> hm
[10:22] <apachelogger> hoy smarter
[10:22] <apachelogger> CMake Error at /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindPhonon.cmake:49 (message):
[10:22] <apachelogger>   Phonon library or includes NOT found!
[10:22]  * apachelogger hands vorian the FTBFS flag :P
[10:30] <smarter> vorian: I see that you have packaged guidance-power-manager 4.1.0, so don't forget to commit your changes to the bzr branch ;)
[10:35] <apachelogger> I think my brain will explode soon
[10:35] <apachelogger> that much reviewing is just not healthy
[10:36] <smarter> :P
[10:38] <apachelogger> vorian: fixed pimlibs
[10:52] <Wubbbi> hello :)
[10:53] <toma> apachelogger: you have akonadi ready?
[10:53] <toma> apachelogger: this one might be interesting: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167524
[10:54] <toma> apachelogger: in what package is /trunk/KDE/kdepim/akonadi ?
[10:54] <toma> because that is what he is missing
[10:55] <apachelogger> toma: packaged 1.0.0
[10:55] <apachelogger> toma: and I think we just didn't backport the changes I made for rc1 in intrepid
[10:56] <apachelogger> so that should hopefully be fixed with the upcoming packages :)
[10:56] <toma> that is the /trunk/kdesupport/akonadi part
[10:56] <apachelogger> IIRC akonadi was not built properly at all
[10:57] <toma> i still would like to know the name of the package that holdsthe stuff from /trunk/KDE/kdepim/akonadi
[10:58] <apachelogger> toma: akonadi-server, libakoandiprivate1, libakonadi-dev
[10:58] <apachelogger> though
[10:58] <apachelogger> no
[10:58]  * apachelogger diggs
[10:58] <toma> thats all kdesupport stuff
[10:59] <toma> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ would help if it was up
[10:59] <apachelogger> toma: akonadi-kde
[10:59] <apachelogger> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+package/akonadi-kde
[10:59] <toma> i expect that to be kdepimlibs/akonadi
[11:00] <apachelogger> nope
[11:00] <apachelogger> built from kdepim
[11:00] <apachelogger> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepimlibs/4:4.0.98-0ubuntu1
[11:00] <apachelogger> kdepimlibs' binaries
[11:01] <toma> righty
[11:01] <toma> thanks
[11:01] <toma> i'll close the report
[11:08] <Nightrose> Arby: can you check if kde 3 apps start from kickoff or krunner if you have their kde 4 version installed
[11:08] <Nightrose> doesn't work since rc 1 in hardy
[11:09] <Nightrose> would be good to fix that with final
[11:09] <Nightrose> (it starts their kde 4 version instead)
[11:28] <Arby> Nightrose: OK, I'm just trying to get a vm set up for testing.
[11:29] <Arby> then I need to go out for a while, so I'll do some testing later this afternoon
[11:30] <Nightrose> Arby: great :)
[11:30] <Nightrose> thanks
[11:30] <Arby> Nightrose: for testing kde3 apps, do you mean on a kde
[11:30] <Arby> sorry
[11:30] <Arby> kde3 desktop or kde4, or both
[11:30] <Nightrose> kde 4 desktop
[11:30] <Arby> k
[11:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: no, kubuntu_09_kickoff_favourites.diff should be added
[11:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: I'll add it to the series then
[12:10] <JontheEchidna> I'll take konq-plugins for hardy
[12:11] <JontheEchidna> damn, vorian totally ripped up extragear for intrepid
[12:11]  * JontheEchidna is impressed
[12:44]  * JontheEchidna is almost done with kdesdk
[12:45] <apachelogger> phew
[12:45] <apachelogger> workspace done
[12:46] <JontheEchidna> guidance-power-manager is upstream now?
[12:46] <Riddell> we like to contribute back
[12:47] <JontheEchidna> That's awesome
[12:47] <JontheEchidna> woo! kdesdk done
[12:49] <vorian> apachelogger: which ftbfs flag is that?
[12:49] <vorian> :)
[12:51] <apachelogger> vorian: the one saying "apachelogger is cooler than I"
[12:51] <vorian> haha
[12:51] <vorian> which package, pim?
[12:51] <apachelogger> pimlibs
[12:51] <apachelogger> oh righto
[12:51] <apachelogger> I should testbuild kdepim
[12:51] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: kdesdk coming your way
[12:51] <apachelogger> otherwise people will eat us again
[12:51] <JontheEchidna> \o/
[12:51] <vorian> haaaa
[12:52] <apachelogger> oh nicy
[12:52] <apachelogger> we have a dep issue
[12:52]  * apachelogger looks
[12:52] <JontheEchidna> do you think that these packages I've built against the 4.0.98 libs are safe for consumption?
[12:52] <vorian> apachelogger: i think kpovmodeler needs to go multiple binaries
[12:52] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: might as well not
[12:53] <JontheEchidna> eh yeah, it's just a bug fix release anyway
[12:53]  * JontheEchidna will be patient
[12:53] <apachelogger> I think I am going to start uploading to the build servers in ~12 hours
[12:53] <JontheEchidna> coolness
[12:53] <apachelogger> so we have enough time if something breaks
[12:53] <apachelogger> vorian: what makes you think that?
[12:53] <vorian> all the files that don't get installed :P
[12:54] <apachelogger> sounds reasonable
[12:54] <vorian> i threw in a kpovmodeler.install file with usr/*
[12:54] <vorian> but I think it can be done better
[12:55] <apachelogger> well IMO splitting only makes sense for multiple binaries which are mostly independent and for libs
[12:55] <JontheEchidna> vorian: do you know where I can get the extragear tarballs?
[12:55] <apachelogger> like I wouldn't have split the amarok 1.4 package into amarok and amarok-common
[12:55] <vorian> hmmm
[12:56] <vorian> It appears there can be data doc and libs binaries
[12:56] <apachelogger> yep
[12:56] <apachelogger> but they don't always make sense ;-)
[12:56] <vorian> haha
[12:56] <apachelogger> like for amarok it would be a much better idea to make it amarok and amarok-docs
[12:57] <apachelogger> since they are quite big and could save some space on the CD for example
[12:57] <vorian> nod
[12:58] <apachelogger> hm, something is defenitely wrong here http://paste.ubuntu.com/30890/
[12:58] <apachelogger> Nightrose: either amarok is having threading problems or kde 4.1.0 does
[12:58]  * Nightrose looks
[12:58] <vorian> uh
[12:59] <Nightrose> apachelogger: how old is your build?
[12:59] <apachelogger> Nightrose: yesterdayish I think
[12:59] <apachelogger> or even todayish
[13:00] <Nightrose> ok
[13:00] <apachelogger> yesterday evening
[13:00] <Nightrose> k
[13:00] <Nightrose> apachelogger: forwarde
[13:00] <Nightrose> d
[13:00] <apachelogger> thx
[13:01]  * apachelogger tears vorian's kdebase-runtime apart :P
[13:01] <vorian> wha!
[13:02] <apachelogger> Depends: kdebase-runtime-data-common (>= ${source:Version}) | kdebase-data (<< 4:4.0.0-1)
[13:02] <apachelogger> Replaces: kdebase-data (<< 4:4.0.0-1), kdebase-bin (<= 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2), drkonqi
[13:02] <apachelogger> sometimes I am really wondering how these kde4 packages work at all :P
[13:04] <vorian> Conflicts: xserver
[13:04]  * vorian runs
[13:05] <apachelogger> I wouldn't be surprised to find that somewhere :P
[13:05] <vorian> haha
[13:06] <vorian> ah cool
[13:09]  * apachelogger installs example-content
[13:10] <vorian> apachelogger: i emailed you all those extragear packages because I'm not sure how much i'll be around monday and tuesday
[13:10] <apachelogger> I think we will get to extragear post-tuesday anyway
[13:10] <apachelogger> lots of testing to be done :(
[13:11] <apachelogger> Nightrose: video crash fixed
[13:11] <apachelogger> klipper autostart fixed
[13:11] <apachelogger> icons not appearing for the kickoff categories fixed
[13:11] <Nightrose> \o/
[13:11] <Nightrose> excellent
[13:12] <apachelogger> Nightrose: kde3 app start fixed
[13:12] <Nightrose> wohooo
[13:13]  * Nightrose hands cookies to everyone who helped
[13:13] <Nightrose> ;-)
[13:13] <JontheEchidna> :)
[13:13] <apachelogger> oh, I get all the cookies I guess :P
[13:13] <Nightrose> :P
[13:14]  * apachelogger hands the packaging crew some bottles of beer and scuttles off for kdepim testbuilds
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> you can just leave the extras for everybody who helped backport
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> Do you think it might be a good idea to make a testing ppa?
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> We can copy the binaries over if they're good
[13:14] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: yes in about 10 hours
[13:14] <apachelogger> though
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> or would people just switch to that new ppa anyway
[13:15] <apachelogger> I think soyuz should provide some kind of closed down ppa
[13:15] <JontheEchidna> and then complain when crap breaks
[13:15] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: likely
[13:15] <Nightrose> ;-)
[13:18] <apachelogger> vorian: what is the status of hardy kdepim?
[13:18] <vorian> suck
[13:18] <apachelogger> cool
[13:18] <vorian> stuck*
[13:18] <vorian> hehe
[13:18] <apachelogger> vorian: but why?
[13:18] <vorian> ftbfs
[13:18] <vorian> fails at 14 or 15%
[13:18] <vorian> I tried a few tricks, and had to go to work
[13:19]  * apachelogger demands a paste
[13:19] <vorian> you'll need to wait a moment then :)
[13:19] <smarter> We could use ~kubuntu-members-kde4 to upload kde4.1.0 to intrepid, nobody is supposed to use that repo for intrepid anyway :P
[13:20] <apachelogger> smarter: I rather don't care whether 4.1.0 hits intrepid in time :P
[13:21]  * apachelogger needs to write some scripts for information gathering
[13:21] <apachelogger> we just need more debdiffs :D
[13:23] <vorian> har har
[13:34] <apachelogger> Arby: kdeaccessibility-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) hardy; urgency=low ;-)
[13:35] <apachelogger> fixed
[13:35]  * JontheEchidna goes to breakfast
[13:46] <apachelogger> Oo
[13:46] <apachelogger> Arby: something is defenitely wrong with kdegames - a debian directory should never be 86mib
[13:50]  * JontheEchidna guesses that debian dir just needs a debuild clean
[13:53] <apachelogger> righto
[13:54] <apachelogger> Arby: please clean your debian dir next time :)
[13:54] <apachelogger> 86mib is really a bit strange
[13:54]  * apachelogger wouldn't have looked into it for 85 ;-)
[13:58] <vorian> apachelogger: it was the patch in pim
[13:59] <apachelogger> god, I hate patches
[14:04] <apachelogger> vorian: kdebase-kde4 (4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) intrepid; urgency=low
[14:04] <apachelogger> I think we need a script for the changelog maniuplation :)
[14:04] <vorian> pfft
[14:04] <vorian> beast2
[14:04] <vorian> that's me!
[14:05]  * apachelogger restarts pbuilder
[14:06] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: you don't have one?
[14:06] <apachelogger> not yet
[14:06] <vorian> kubuntu-backport-tools
[14:09] <apachelogger> including a tarball renamer
[14:09]  * apachelogger always forgets to suffix the tarballs
[14:11] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: libphonon-dev (>= 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ... usually you would just go with 4:4.2.0
[14:11]  * JontheEchidna just edited what was there
[14:12] <JontheEchidna> namely the 4.x.x stuff
[14:12] <smarter> vorian: you saw my highlight about guidance?
[14:12] <vorian> smarter: yeah :)
[14:12] <vorian> I'll push the change
[14:12] <smarter> ok, thanks ;)
[14:12] <vorian> I think all I did was add a manpage
[14:12] <devfil> Riddell: please take a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/245682 so kdelibs can finally be fixed
[14:13] <smarter> vorian: don't forget to do "bzr add *" so that it add the new file then
[14:13] <vorian> roger
[14:13] <vorian> ah, no
[14:13] <vorian> patch had to be dropped
[14:14] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: that ~hardy1~ppa1 was probably not there :P
[14:14] <smarter> vorian: which patch?
[14:16] <vorian> klocalize-crash
[14:16] <smarter> why?
[14:17] <vorian> it would not apply
[14:17] <apachelogger> vorian: then you should update it rather than removing :P
[14:17] <smarter> yep
[14:18]  * apachelogger can't read anymore
[14:18] <apachelogger> all packages got the 10% backport review
[14:18] <apachelogger> and even that was too much
[14:18] <smarter> vorian: need help? (:
[14:19] <vorian> smarter: you can do all of it, i don't mind
[14:20] <smarter> ok, send me your diff.gz :)
[14:21] <vorian> smarter: check your inbox :)
[14:21] <smarter> thanks
[14:24] <smarter> vorian: I don't see any manpage?
[14:24] <vorian> 13:13:36 < vorian> ah, no
[14:24] <vorian> 13:13:43 < vorian> patch had to be dropped
[14:25] <vorian> i was wrong, as always it seems
[14:25] <smarter> ah, only patch, okay then :)
[14:40] <smarter> apachelogger: guidance-power-manager update debian/ available on lp:~kubuntu-members/guidance/powermanager-ubuntu
[14:53]  * Arby reads the highlights
[14:54] <Arby> apachelogger: I thought something was up with games.
[14:54] <Arby> I'm never quite sure what is safe to remov thought
[14:54] <apachelogger> Arby: debuild clean
[14:54] <apachelogger> or debuild -S -sa
[14:54] <apachelogger> the latter invokes the former
[14:54] <Arby> I thought I did that
[14:54] <Arby> oh well
[14:55] <Arby> do you need me to re-send or did you fix it
[14:56] <apachelogger> fixed it
[14:56]  * apachelogger needs to run debuild -S -sa anyway :)
[14:56] <Arby> thanks
[14:59] <Arby> apachelogger: are the kde4 ppa and neon repository compatible or are they intended to be mutually exclusive?
[14:59] <Arby> i.e. can I use both without exploding the world
[14:59] <apachelogger> you should ;-)
[15:00] <Arby> ok. I will :)
[15:02] <Nightrose> Arby: i use both
[15:02] <Nightrose> no problems so far
[15:03] <Arby> excellent
[15:03] <txwikinger> eploding the world... interesting concept
[15:03] <txwikinger> +x
[15:04] <apachelogger> neon is way cooler than kde4 ppa anyway :P
[15:04] <Arby> for a certain value of world :)
[15:04] <apachelogger> libplasma-dev (>= 4:4.2.0)
[15:04] <apachelogger> interesting dep
[15:05] <txwikinger> well... back from the future?
[15:05] <apachelogger> back to the future(tm)
[15:06] <apachelogger> Nightrose: how did I explain that in promo language?
[15:07] <apachelogger> ...it's not actually wrong, just future-proof ...
[15:07] <apachelogger> something similar at least
[15:07] <Nightrose> :P
[15:08] <txwikinger> what do you mean, it is not wrong?
[15:08] <txwikinger> It will fail if you don't have anything 4.2.0 or higher
[15:08] <txwikinger> Do we already have 4.2.0?
[15:10] <apachelogger> that is the wrong attittude
[15:10] <apachelogger> txwikinger: tell me again in december :P
[15:10] <txwikinger> Well.. I will.. with a different accent though
[15:11] <apachelogger> oioi
[15:21] <txwikinger> Ah.. another amarok bug :D
[16:40] <apachelogger> who was working on the kdebindings backport?
[16:41] <vorian> apachelogger: you?
[16:41] <apachelogger> not on the backport
[16:41] <apachelogger> someone started work but apparently gave up
[16:41] <vorian> hmmm
[16:41] <Arby> me
[16:41] <apachelogger> Arby: what is the problem?
[16:41] <Arby> something to do with smoke and phonon
[16:42] <vorian> apachelogger: here is the pim failure http://paste.ubuntu.com/30945/
[16:42] <Arby> hang on let's see if I can find the error
[16:42] <apachelogger> MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive
[16:42] <apachelogger> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[16:42] <apachelogger> god
[16:42] <apachelogger> sometimes
[16:42] <vorian> Arby: i would advise against smoking phonon
[16:42] <apachelogger> I hate soyuz
[16:42] <vorian> it'll give you cancer
[16:42] <Arby> :P
[16:42] <apachelogger> vorian: it will????
[16:42] <apachelogger> how can you give phonon cancer?
[16:43] <apachelogger> plasma seems reasonable, but phonon?
[16:43] <vorian> no, If you smoke phonon, *you* get cancer
[16:43] <Arby> apachelogger: the error was http://paste.ubuntu.com/30661/
[16:43] <vorian> but, if you smoke plasma, phonon turns to platinum?
[16:43] <apachelogger> vorian: dpkg -S kcfg2dbus.xsl
[16:44] <vorian> kdepimlibs-data: /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/akonadi-kde/kcfg2dbus.xsl
[16:44] <apachelogger> vorian: did you upgrade kdepimlibs yet?
[16:44] <vorian> yes
[16:44] <vorian> ah, but i didn't install it
[16:44] <apachelogger> Arby: either a build-dep is missing or the source tree isn't clean
[16:44] <apachelogger> vorian: ;-)
[16:45] <vorian> silly hardy
[16:45]  * apachelogger has 3gib of packages in his repo due to autopublishing upon successful build :P
[16:45] <jtechidna> \o/
[16:46] <jtechidna> I thought you could only have 1 GiB?
[16:46] <vorian> sudo dpkg -i *.deb ftw
[16:46] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: not in the ppa
[16:46] <apachelogger> my my repo
[16:49] <JontheEchidna> what the heck? Where'd CSS go for launchpad?
[16:49] <Arby> apachelogger: the debian/control is http://paste.ubuntu.com/30652/
[16:49] <Arby> do you see anything obviously missing?
[16:50] <apachelogger> libsoprano-dev missing
[16:50] <Arby> k
[16:51] <apachelogger> looks good otherwise
[16:51] <apachelogger> Arby: maybe you should get yourself a stack ;-)
[16:51] <Arby> a stack?
[16:52] <apachelogger> a 4.1.0 package stack that is
[16:53] <Arby> and I would do that how?
[16:53] <Arby> apart from the ones I've done locally
[16:54] <apachelogger> asking me to upload
[16:54] <apachelogger> but
[16:54] <apachelogger> considering my connection suxx0rs
[16:54] <apachelogger> I think I'll better do the backport myself ;-)
[16:54] <Arby> ok
[16:55] <apachelogger> Arby: I hope you don't mind
[16:55] <apachelogger> otherwise I can of course start uploading right away
[16:55] <vorian> grrr
[16:55] <Arby> hang on you've lost me
[16:55] <Arby> backports of what are we on now
[16:56] <apachelogger> Arby: bindings
[16:56] <Arby> I've started bindings building again
[16:56] <Arby> oh ok
[16:56] <apachelogger> Arby: well maybe it builds
[16:56]  * apachelogger meanwhile prepares to jump in, in case it doesn't
[16:56] <Arby> stranger things have happened :)
[16:56] <Arby> although not recently
[16:57] <apachelogger> vorian: apparently we do backports
[16:57] <apachelogger> so go ahead and modify the l10n script if you want
[16:58] <apachelogger> I guess you just need to get it to use hardy as distro and suffix the version number
[16:58] <vorian> apachelogger: hmm?
[16:58] <JontheEchidna> btw, @KDE 4.1 packaging team:
[16:58] <JontheEchidna> http://tinyurl.com/57acua
[16:58] <apachelogger> vorian: l10n backports
[16:58] <apachelogger> of course you could also backport them manually ;-)
[16:59]  * JontheEchidna hears the screams of 1,000 dead packagers^
[16:59] <apachelogger> hm
[16:59] <vorian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30950/
[16:59] <vorian> Same flippin problem
[16:59] <vorian> pim can die
[17:00] <vorian> :P
[17:01] <apachelogger> vorian: you borked it
[17:01] <apachelogger> I knew it
[17:01] <apachelogger> omg
[17:01] <apachelogger> vorian: send over the debian
[17:01] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: now I am confused
[17:02] <Arby> apachelogger: bindings failed again, feel free to take over
[17:02] <Arby> too hard for me :(
[17:02]  * apachelogger burns bindings
[17:02] <Arby> good plan
[17:02] <apachelogger> oh
[17:02] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: why?
[17:02] <apachelogger> star wars in the amarok
[17:02]  * Arby passes the petrol
[17:03]  * JontheEchidna passes the 9-volt battery and steel wool
[17:03]  * toma grabs the marshmellows
[17:03] <toma> however that is spelled correctly
[17:03] <Arby> marshmallows
[17:04] <Arby> or something like thta
[17:04] <smarter> hey guys
[17:04] <smarter> still messing with backports? (:
[17:07] <smarter> what/where is "PPA aplg"?
[17:07] <Wubbbi> Hello to everyone :D
[17:07]  * apachelogger kicks smarter in the balls
[17:07] <apachelogger> tp secret
[17:07] <Wubbbi> *autsch* xD
[17:07] <apachelogger> tach Wubbbi
[17:08] <smarter> apachelogger: it's so secret it does not even exist :P
[17:08] <Wubbbi> hi ... sagmal weißt du ob es möglich ist unter mandriva, debian pakete zu bauen? :/
[17:09] <Wubbbi> Ich hab ... *schluck* gewechselt  ^^
[17:10] <smarter> apachelogger: maybe we should setup a secret irc channel for this kind of stuff? ;-)
[17:11]  * apachelogger thinks of a secret name
[17:11] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: sollte in nem chroot möglich sein
[17:11] <smarter> #kubuntu.packaging-ninjas :p
[17:11] <apachelogger> nah
[17:11] <vorian> apachelogger: you've got mail etc...
[17:11] <Wubbbi> ok danke :)
[17:34] <Arby> hmm, how do I start krunner manually if it dies
[17:35] <JontheEchidna> krunner
[17:35] <Arby> alt-f2 no longer does anything. bit wierd
[17:35] <JontheEchidna> run krunner from konsole
[17:36] <JontheEchidna> that should start it back up
[17:36] <Arby> uh uh
[17:37] <Arby> brb
[18:10] <jussi01> Oh lovely, qt looks horrible :/
[18:10] <jussi01> http://imagebin.ca/view/8EvyxNN1.html
[18:12] <Jucato> what happened? O.o
[18:13] <jussi01> Jucato: no idea, I should check what im looged into I suppose... (have neon and members repo)
[18:13] <Jucato> heh :)
[18:14] <jussi01> is there a way to do that from inside the session?
[18:16] <apachelogger> jussi01: kde4-config --localprefix
[18:16] <apachelogger> if it is .kde4 its the members if it is .kde-neon it is neon
[18:17] <jussi01> apachelogger: Its neon
[18:19]  * jussi01 ggoes to check if its the same in members
[18:20] <jussi01> hehe, neon doesnt log out right now...
[18:48] <devfil> Riddell: there?
[18:51] <Riddell> hi devfil
[18:51] <devfil> Riddell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/245682
[18:53] <devfil> Riddell: with this and the rebuild of kdelibs the bug of libavahi-qt3 instead of libavahi-qt3-1 is fixex
[18:53] <devfil> fixed
[18:54] <Riddell> devfil: uploading avahi
[18:55] <devfil> Riddell: for kdelibs do you need a debdiff with the rebuild (when avahi has builded) or you can do the giveback?
[18:56] <Riddell> devfil: a debdiff means you get the karma :)
[18:56] <devfil> Riddell: ?
[18:57] <devfil> I'm not understanding
[19:00] <Riddell> devfil: if you give me a debdiff you get the launchpad karma
[19:02] <devfil> Riddell: ? if I remember right the karma depends on reply at bugs, translation etc... no other
[19:04] <jpds> devfil: You create a bug on it.
[19:05] <Riddell> uploads too I think
[19:05] <devfil> pffff I don't want to create bugs
[19:07] <devfil> Riddell: I don't think
[19:08] <jpds> devfil: So therefore you aren't?!
[19:08] <devfil> Riddell: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/0.6.23-2ubuntu1 the missing dep is in intrepid
[19:09] <devfil> universe
[19:13] <Riddell> grrr
[19:13] <Riddell> devfil: fancy writing the main inclusion report?
[19:14] <devfil> naaaa
[19:14] <devfil> if possible drop the dependency
[19:18] <devfil> Riddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464712
[19:19] <Riddell> ah, libcap1 is already in main, that means no main inclusion report needed
[19:19] <devfil> good
[19:27]  * Riddell uploads it to build with libcap1
[19:45] <Nightrose> apachelogger: looks like eean gives a **** about neon not building...
[19:46] <Nightrose> he wants you to fix it
[19:55] <Wubbbi> hi :) I'm Back :D
[20:04] <devfil> Riddell: remember to rebuild kdelibs please
[20:04] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: sooo ich hab jetzt meine debian paketbau umgebung soweit eingerichted. Kann ich eigentlich auch pakete für z.B. Intrepid bauen ( Bugfixes und so ein zeug ) und die dann Uploaden lassen? Also ein paketbuilder sozusagen
[20:04] <Wubbbi> sorry for my german in here but this was an important question ^^
[20:08] <JontheEchidna> German people like (K)Ubuntu a lot, it seems. ;P
[20:08] <Wubbbi> ^^
[20:08] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: you are from?
[20:08] <JontheEchidna> USA
[20:13] <Wubbbi> UHHH :D I Like the USA :D
[20:14] <Wubbbi> apachelogger seems to be away :(
[20:16] <devfil> Riddell: in kdelibs should be libavahi-*-dev (>= 0.6.23-2ubuntu2)
[20:16] <devfil> in buld-dep
[20:19] <Wubbbi> Well I have learned so much about "How to make a .deb package" and I wanted to ask, if it was possible, that I build some .deb packages for (K)Ubuntu intrepid. Is that ok? So I need to be in a team. Or is this not possible? :(
[20:20] <JontheEchidna> yeah, that's ok. You don't need to be in a team or anything
[20:21] <Wubbbi> and how to do that? So wheren can I show that packages need to be build?
[20:21] <Wubbbi> show = see ( english is a bit diffrent than german ^^ )
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> find something that needs packaging and package it ;)
[20:22] <Wubbbi> ohhh that easy? ok ^^
[20:23] <JontheEchidna> plasmoids are usually easy: http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=70
[20:23] <JontheEchidna> (just make sure they haven't been packaged first)
[20:24] <Wubbbi> and after I have build a .deb? what I have to do then?
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> once you've packaged it you'll need to upload the source package to revu so an MOTU can review it
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> I'll get a link in a second
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU?highlight=%28Revu%29
[20:26] <Wubbbi> so let me build the plasmamoid "Tea Cooker" ^^
[20:26] <JontheEchidna> ok, that one hasn't been done yet
[20:27] <Wubbbi> ok
[20:27] <Wubbbi> D
[20:27] <Wubbbi> :D
[20:27] <JontheEchidna> btw, we've been naming plasmoids plasmoid-whatever
[20:27] <JontheEchidna> plasmoid-teacooker
[20:28] <Wubbbi> ok ... thats :D
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> You can "apt-get source plasmoid-weather" to see a plasmoid I packaged
[20:30] <Wubbbi> ok
[20:42] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: how to get the e-mail adress of the creater? On kde-look i cant find :/
[20:42] <JontheEchidna> usually it's in the source code
[20:42] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: ^
[20:43] <Wubbbi> cant find :/
[20:43] <Wubbbi> what I have to do now?
[20:43]  * JontheEchidna takes a look at the source code
[20:44] <Wubbbi> ^^
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: It's in plasma-teacooker.cpp
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> Copyright (C) 2008 by Swizec <swizec@swizec.com>
[20:46] <Wubbbi> can I use the same "dh_sameversiondeps" and "kde.mk" that you have?
[20:47] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: ahhh thank you :D
[20:47] <JontheEchidna> yeah, just copy the rules file and the cdbs directory over from what I have
[20:47] <Wubbbi> ok
[20:48] <Wubbbi> ok I'm finished now ... lets build :D
[20:50] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: do I need a bug report? oO
[20:50] <JontheEchidna> it would be preferred
[20:50] <JontheEchidna> (yes :P)
[20:52] <Wubbbi> and how should it call?
[20:52] <JontheEchidna> ?
[20:52] <JontheEchidna> [needs-packaging] plasmoid-teacooker
[20:53] <JontheEchidna> then just give a link to the kde-look page and give a small description
[20:53] <JontheEchidna> you can look at my bug report
[20:54] <Wubbbi> ok
[20:57] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: is that ok? bug 252388
[20:57] <JontheEchidna> ya, that's good
[20:59] <Wubbbi> :)
[21:01] <Wubbbi> thats easyer than I thought ^^
[21:02] <JontheEchidna> filing the bug report?
[21:03] <Wubbbi> wait. I need the libplasma-dev package. Im here on gnome. So that can take a while ^^
[21:04] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: nooo ... build a fresh package :)
[21:04] <JontheEchidna> oh
[21:04] <Wubbbi> befor I have just builded done packages ... that was brong ^^
[21:04] <Wubbbi> boring
[21:04] <JontheEchidna> well now you have to upload it to revu and have it revu'd
[21:05] <Wubbbi> ok :D
[21:05] <JontheEchidna> It's not over yet!
[21:05]  * JontheEchidna laughs maniacally
[21:05] <Wubbbi> lol xD
[21:09] <Wubbbi> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:35 (MESSAGE):
[21:09] <Wubbbi>   ERROR: Could not find KDE4 kde4-config
[21:09] <Wubbbi> emmm ... what dows this mean?
[21:09] <Wubbbi> does
[21:10] <JontheEchidna> got the -dev packages for kde?
[21:11] <Wubbbi> ohhh ... forgott ^^ sorry
[21:11] <Wubbbi> xD
[21:13] <JontheEchidna> installing libplasma-dev should fix it
[21:13] <Wubbbi> apt is working :)
[21:16] <devfil> Riddell: there?
[21:20] <Wubbbi> "ERROR: Could not find KDE4 kde4-config" there is no kde4-config package :/
[21:21] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: what happens if you try to debuild plasmoid-weather?
[21:22] <Wubbbi> nothing
[21:22] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: is that intrepid?
[21:22] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: no ... hardy but with kde 4.1 paa "quellen" xD
[21:22] <JontheEchidna> that's the problem
[21:22] <Wubbbi> -_-
[21:22] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: you need to add /usr/lib/kde4/bin to your $PATH
[21:22] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: why did you switch to mandriva anyway?
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: He's using intrepid cdbs, which is the problem
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> I thought he was in Intrepid
[21:23] <apachelogger> well
[21:23] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: I have switched back ;)
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> so I told him to apt-get source plasmoid-weather and copy cdbs and rules from it
[21:23] <apachelogger> I told you in the hardy cycle we should add the stuff to cdbs or create cdbs-kde4
[21:23] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: what to do now? Instell intrepid or a workaround
[21:23] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: sounds reasonable ;-)
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: I thought you were using Intrepid
[21:24] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: Is that a big problem?
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> sorta
[21:24] <Wubbbi> I mean I can install it. If you want. But a workaround would be better ;)
[21:24] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: ;)
[21:24] <apachelogger> I hate workarounds!
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> you could build it with pbuilder
[21:25] <apachelogger> getmywine.com
[21:25] <JontheEchidna> which would be preferred
[21:25] <apachelogger> hm
[21:25] <apachelogger> I really should stop listening to web radios advertising wine :S
[21:26]  * apachelogger thinks about opening up a bottle 
[21:26] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#head-2979f8a826fc15379a92139c25bb513633d2023c
[21:26] <JontheEchidna> ^That way you can testbuild stuff without installing Intrepid
[21:26] <smarter> Riddell: do you know why cdbs 0.4.52ubuntu2 FTBFS'd?
[21:27] <apachelogger> smarter: what is the error?
[21:28] <smarter> apachelogger: something with a dep
[21:28] <apachelogger> the best error description ever ;-)
[21:29] <devfil> dblatex: Depends: texlive-xetex (>= 2007) but it is not going to be installed
[21:29] <smarter> has this been fixed?
[21:30] <devfil> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/texlive-xetex
[21:30] <devfil> the package exists and is in main
[21:30] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: ok I have done it. Now I need to creat a .dsc? how to do that? I forgoot xD
[21:30] <devfil> so where is the problem?
[21:30] <apachelogger> devfil: maybe it was not at build time
[21:30]  * smarter tries to pbuild it
[21:31] <devfil> apachelogger: then who can should do the giveback
[21:31] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: ok found xD
[21:31] <apachelogger> devfil: a core dev I guess
[21:32] <crimsun> s/core dev/archive admin/
[21:32] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: good ;)
[21:33] <apachelogger> devfil: an archive admin I guess
[21:33] <apachelogger> :P
[21:36] <smarter> Dear strigidaemon, please stop using 100% of two cores, dear Xorg, please stop using 500 MB of RAM, kthxbye
[21:39] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna:  it works :)
[21:40] <smarter> New error with cdbs: texlive-xetex: Depends: dvipdfmx which is a virtual package.
[21:41] <apachelogger> so I was right when I said that everything breakable is already broken so we can stop updating packages all day long ;-)
[21:42] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: cool, now upload to revu and poke somebody
[21:42]  * smarter don't really understand why cdbs needs latex stuff
[21:42] <apachelogger> smarter: doesn't look very virtual for me
[21:43] <JontheEchidna> smarter: dear strigidaemon, please stop using 10 Gb hdd space
[21:43] <JontheEchidna> kthx
[21:43] <apachelogger> ohhhhhhh
[21:43] <apachelogger> hum
[21:43] <apachelogger> smarter: I think it happens because that package is actually in universe
[21:44] <smarter> it was demoted?
[21:44] <apachelogger> bug 248605
[21:44] <apachelogger> needs to be promoted
[21:45] <smarter> grmbl
[21:45] <apachelogger> +1
[21:46] <smarter> that main/universe distraction is really annoying
[21:46] <smarter> *distinction
[21:46] <apachelogger> +1
[21:46] <apachelogger> -1
[21:47]  * smarter should not type at 11PM :p
[21:47]  * apachelogger should not be up
[21:47] <apachelogger> bindings is at 33%
[21:47]  * JontheEchidna should be up at 5 PM
[21:48] <apachelogger> if I am lucky it's only gonna take 45mins more
[21:54] <Wubbbi> test
[21:56] <yuriy> how am I supposed to call KIconLoader::global() in python?
[21:57] <JontheEchidna> take enough drugs so that the riverbankcomputing docs make sense
[21:57] <JontheEchidna> ...in regards to python
[21:57] <smarter> :P
[21:59] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: I have some problems. How to make a .deb now? I have the .dsc, source.build, source.changes and tar.gz
[22:02] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: hello?
[22:03] <JontheEchidna> hi
[22:03] <JontheEchidna> you'll need intrepid for that, I think
[22:03] <JontheEchidna> since you're making an Intrepid package
[22:04] <Wubbbi> -_- ... ok I will Install Intrepid Tomorow ;) Let me go the bed now. Its 23:03 o'clock. k?
[22:04] <JontheEchidna> lol, you can go to bed whenever you want
[22:04] <Wubbbi> my energy is low xD
[22:04] <Wubbbi> ^^
[22:04] <yuriy> you can make intrepid packages in pbuilder
[22:04] <yuriy> make an intrepid pbuilder on hardy
[22:04] <apachelogger> hum
[22:04] <Wubbbi> yuriy: done ... but how to make a .deb now?
[22:04] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: how comes you can go to bed and I can't :P
[22:05] <yuriy> Wubbbi: sudo pbuilder build nameoffile.dsc
[22:05] <yuriy> and the .debs will be in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/
[22:05] <Wubbbi> yuriy: I have done this but no .deb file :/
[22:05] <Wubbbi> ahhhh
[22:05] <Wubbbi> xD
[22:05] <Wubbbi> yuriy: why dont you told me earlyer ^^
[22:06] <JontheEchidna> damn, I have a lot of debs in there...
[22:06]  * apachelogger doesn't :P
[22:06]  * JontheEchidna didn't know about that
[22:06]  * apachelogger stores results in ./build/ relative to the dsc :P
[22:06] <JontheEchidna> Wubbbi: your deb won't be hardy compatible though
[22:06] <apachelogger> who needs hardy anyway?
[22:07]  * JontheEchidna really needs to find time to upgrade
[22:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: one is supposed to do this right after the new series is open for development
[22:07] <apachelogger> no problems at upgrade then ;-)
[22:08] <JontheEchidna> heh
[22:09] <a|wen> Riddell: the meeting on wednesday is scheduled to be the same time as a platform team meeting ... and the kubuntu meeting is not listed on the fridge; so we are probably the ones going to move either place or time
[22:11] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna: the .deb file is created ... YEAH. And it seems to work. How to upload it now?
[22:11] <JontheEchidna> you don't upload the .debs to revu ;P
[22:12] <Wubbbi> -_- ... what to I upload?
[22:12] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU?highlight=%28Revu%29
[22:13] <apachelogger> a|wen, Riddell: I think we could do it as well in here
[22:16] <a|wen> apachelogger: yeah, moving the place is often the best (to not disturb peoples schedules) ... if Riddell agrees I suppose he'll add that to the fridge then :)
[22:17] <apachelogger> nixternal would have to do that
[22:17] <apachelogger> but nixternal is all busy with is new favorite operating system :P
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> visternal has been strangely absent lately...
[22:18] <a|wen> uhh, that sounds frightening
[22:19] <Wubbbi> Warning: The execution of '/usr/bin/scp' as
[22:19] <Wubbbi>   'scp -p /home/egon/Desktop/plasmoid-teacooker_0.2.0-0ubuntu1.dsc /home/egon/Desktop/plasmoid-teacooker_0.2.0-0ubuntu1.tar.gz /home/egon/Desktop/plasmoid-teacooker_0.2.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes anonymous@revu.ubuntuwire.com:/incoming'
[22:19] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: work
[22:19] <Wubbbi> what dows this mean?
[22:19] <Wubbbi> Uploading to revu (via scp to revu.ubuntuwire.com):
[22:19] <Wubbbi> Permission denied (publickey).
[22:19] <Wubbbi> lost connection
[22:19] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: read the wiki page :P
[22:19] <apachelogger> you have to join revu-uploaders and wait for your key to be synced in
[22:20] <apachelogger> or poke a revu admin to kick off the syncing
[22:20] <JontheEchidna> ^That's what I did
[22:20] <JontheEchidna> once it's up there poke me for a revu
[22:21] <JontheEchidna> though my revus don't really "count" for advocacy and such
[22:21]  * apachelogger is wondering whether his do
[22:21] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: so what I got to do now?
[22:23] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: read the
[22:23] <apachelogger> Register as a REVU uploader
[22:23] <apachelogger> section on the wiki page
[22:25] <Wubbbi> I have done everything on there
[22:25] <yuriy> hmm according to the docs I should be able to do KIconLoader.global() but it says syntax error
[22:25] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: *switchlanguage* kannst du mir das man auf deutsch erklären? also ich hab alle punkte die da stehen gemacht
[22:25] <Wubbbi> upppppppps
[22:26] <Wubbbi> key not added ^^
[22:27] <Wubbbi> ok done
[22:27] <Wubbbi> but still wont work
[22:27] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: du musst warten bis der in den schlüsselbund von revu übernommen wurde
[22:27] <Wubbbi> das dauert wie lange?
[22:27] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: oder du findest nen revu admin der gerade online ist und bittest ihn ganz lieb den key zu syncen
[22:28] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: maximal 24h
[22:28] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: steht auch irgendwo auf der wiki page ;-)
[22:28] <Wubbbi> JontheEchidna:  are you a revu admin?
[22:28] <apachelogger> jpds is
[22:28] <apachelogger> dunno if he is awake though
[22:28]  * jpds arises.
[22:28] <Riddell> a|wen: mm, fooey, poke nixternal
[22:28] <Wubbbi> jpds: can you syncen my key?
[22:28] <Wubbbi> please
[22:29] <jpds> Wubbbi: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/ - log in with LP id.
[22:29] <Wubbbi> jpds: done
[22:29] <jpds> Wubbbi: Now upload.
[22:29] <apachelogger> omg
[22:29] <apachelogger> new revu
[22:29] <apachelogger> jeez
[22:29] <JontheEchidna> new revu?????
[22:29] <jpds> They put me outta my job :( The whole thing is automatic now..
[22:29]  * JontheEchidna clicks
[22:29] <smarter> jpds: :P
[22:29] <apachelogger> jpds: you could get them to use oxygen icons :)
[22:29] <Wubbbi> apachelogger: how to upload?
[22:30] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: wiki :P
[22:30] <Wubbbi> jpds: i think its done
[22:30] <jpds> Wubbbi: dput revu *_source.changes
[22:30] <Wubbbi> hmm still get the error
[22:30] <jpds> smarter: I feel unloved.
[22:30] <jpds> apachelogger: Poke NCommander in -motu.
[22:30]  * smarter hugs jpds :P
[22:30] <apachelogger> jpds: we still love you :)
[22:30] <Wubbbi> Uploading to revu (via scp to revu.ubuntuwire.com):
[22:30] <Wubbbi> Permission denied (publickey).
[22:30] <Wubbbi> lost connection
[22:30] <Wubbbi> not goood
[22:30] <smarter> you just need to remind everyone to click on "Merge REVU accounts" :p
[22:30]  * jpds performs sudo killall quasselcore on smarter's shell.
[22:31]  * jpds hugs apachelogger 
[22:31] <smarter> noooo
[22:31] <a|wen> nixternal: can you add our meeting on wednesday to the fridge? ... and we've ended up in the same time as a platform meeting, so it'll be held in #kubuntu-devel instead
[22:31] <apachelogger> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/stats.py
[22:31] <apachelogger> I am #4
[22:31] <apachelogger> how cool is that
[22:31]  * apachelogger rehugs jpds
[22:31]  * JontheEchidna is #98
[22:31] <apachelogger> hm 2 comments an I am #2 :D
[22:31] <JontheEchidna> oh, we're looking at different lists
[22:31] <apachelogger> who wants a free revu?
[22:32] <JontheEchidna> lol
[22:32] <apachelogger> ah
[22:32] <Wubbbi> I have loged in in REVU. I have send my key via "gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 8067091B" but why I cant upload? -.-
[22:32] <apachelogger> xand3r wants
[22:33] <apachelogger> Wubbbi: you have to configure your key in launchpad
[22:33] <Wubbbi> how
[22:33] <jpds> Wubbbi: Have you registered it on LP?
[22:33] <smarter> anyway, good night everybody
[22:33] <Wubbbi> jpds: yes and I'm loged in in REVU
[22:33] <JontheEchidna> g'night
[22:33] <Wubbbi> ohhh
[22:34] <Wubbbi> how to regist on launchpad?
[22:34] <jpds> night smarter
[22:34] <Wubbbi> oO
[22:35] <jpds> Why does LP have to change everytime I visit it?
[22:35] <Wubbbi> How to register my Key on Launchpad?
[22:35] <a|wen> jpds: you might consider visiting it more often ;)
[22:35] <smarter> Launchpad is polymorphic.
[22:36] <JontheEchidna> by the way, the utnubu team no longer exists
[22:37] <apachelogger> did they run out of work?
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> no
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> it just sorta died I guess
[22:37] <jpds> JontheEchidna: They're ubuntu-dct now - or something
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> oh
[22:37] <apachelogger> what does dct stand for?
[22:38] <jpds> Debian Collorbration Team
[22:38] <smarter> Debian is Cool Too :P
[22:38] <JontheEchidna> it would have been nice for the person who said it was on the utnubu mailing list to tell me that
[22:38] <a|wen> Wubbbi: login to LP, go to your profile page, click change details in upper right corner, choose SSH Keys
[22:38] <jpds> Wubbbi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~jpds/+editpgpkeys
[22:38] <apachelogger> well, he should change the nick ;-)
[22:38] <jpds> Err, s/jpds/wubbi/
[22:38] <apachelogger> jpds: ncommander is not aroundish
[22:39]  * apachelogger starts crying
[22:39] <jpds> apachelogger: Strange, he's in East US.
[22:42] <JontheEchidna> lawl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5470051#post5470051
[22:44] <Wubbbi> jpds: ok is done :D
[22:44] <jpds> Wubbbi: Not SSH, GnuPG key.
[22:44] <Wubbbi> done
[22:44] <Wubbbi> but i still get the error :/
[22:45] <jpds> Now login to revu again
[22:45] <Wubbbi> done
[22:45] <Wubbbi> and now?
[22:45] <jpds> Wubbbi: https://edge.launchpad.net/~wubbbi/+editpgpkeys
[22:46] <Wubbbi> ADC05343F823000F964D7C17DC0DBE2F8067091B
[22:46] <a|wen> jpds: lol
[22:46] <Wubbbi> thats the key
[22:46] <Wubbbi> I have done
[22:46] <Wubbbi> and now?
[22:46] <jpds> Check your inbox for a confirm email.
[22:46] <jpds> a|wen: ?
[22:47] <a|wen> JontheEchidna: lol
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> found it on digg
[22:47] <a|wen> jpds: ^^ ... can't hit the right keys atm :P
[22:47] <jpds> a|wen: Ah yes, the dreaded tab.
[22:48] <Wubbbi> jpds: ok done
[22:48] <Wubbbi> but still the same error
[22:48] <jpds> Wubbbi: Now login to REVU
[22:48] <a|wen> jpds: yeah ... after beeing afk for 3 weeks and you just need to get back into the game :)
[22:48] <Wubbbi> jpds: done
[22:49] <Wubbbi> still the error
[22:49] <jpds> Wubbbi: And "dput revu" the *.changes package you have.
[22:49] <jpds> a|wen: Nice holiday?
[22:49] <Wubbbi> still error
[22:49] <jpds> Wubbbi: Was machst du?
[22:50] <Wubbbi> wie was mach ich?
[22:50] <jpds> pastebin the error at paste.ubuntu.com
[22:50] <a|wen> jpds: yeah ... and leaving for another week tomorrow; so expect me to be back to highlight you in error again then :P
[22:51] <Wubbbi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/31037/
[22:52] <jpds> Wubbbi: Please pastebin /etc/dput.cf
[22:52] <jpds> a|wen: Have a nice trip!
[22:52] <Wubbbi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/31039/
[22:53] <a|wen> jpds: thanks
[22:54] <Wubbbi> jpds: find the mistake?
[22:54] <jpds> Wubbbi: Versuche mit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/31040/
[22:54] <Wubbbi> still error
[22:55] <jpds> Hmm.
[22:55] <jpds> Same one?
[22:55] <Wubbbi> yes
[22:56] <jpds> It shouldn't be using scp, but *shudder* FTP.
[22:56] <Wubbbi> Active keys
[22:56] <Wubbbi> 1024D/8067091B
[22:56] <Wubbbi> the key is activ
[22:56] <Wubbbi> jpds: how to change that?
[22:57] <a|wen> Wubbbi: did you get someone to sync revu after you added your gpg key?
[22:57] <jpds> Wubbbi: Did you sign the package with that key?
[22:57] <Wubbbi> jpds: yes
[22:57] <jpds> a|wen: The process is automatic now, and is done by simply logging into REVU.
[22:57] <Wubbbi> a|wen: I dont understand ... I got a e-mail and i have activated it
[22:57] <jpds> Wubbbi: Do: dput revu plasmoid-teacooker_0.2.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[22:58] <a|wen> jpds: ahh, cool :) ... Wubbbi: never mind then
[22:58] <Wubbbi> jpds: still the error
[22:58] <Wubbbi> -.-
[22:59] <jpds> Wubbbi: Poke RainCT in #ubuntu-motu, ich muss jetzt gehen zu schlafen.
[22:59] <jpds> G'night.
[22:59] <Wubbbi> nice google translater ^^
[22:59] <Wubbbi> good night ;)
[22:59] <jpds> Wubbbi: (I spent last summer learning German),
[23:00] <Wubbbi> jpds:  xD
[23:00] <Wubbbi> the words are right but the grammar is still english ;)
[23:00] <a|wen> gutenacht jpds
[23:03] <a|wen> ich soll auch jetzt schlafen gehen :P ... goodnight
[23:05] <Wubbbi> gn
[23:11] <apachelogger> yay
[23:11] <apachelogger> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/stats.py
[23:11]  * apachelogger starts dancing
[23:19] <devfil> Riddell: there?
[23:20] <Riddell> hi devfil
[23:20] <devfil> Riddell: please consider to upload http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/31046/
[23:27] <Riddell> ok
[23:36] <Riddell> thanks devfil
[23:36]  * Riddell snoozes
[23:37] <devfil> Riddell: thanks at you
[23:37] <apachelogger> SolarWar: btw, I usually don't notice queries ;-)
[23:37] <SolarWar> apachelogger, no problem didn't want to flood the channel :)
[23:37] <apachelogger> SolarWar: that was perfect topic
[23:38] <apachelogger> otherwise there is always -motu :)
[23:38] <SolarWar> okie, from now i'll just bother you here then haha
[23:38] <SolarWar> so if you get a chance, could you check out the revu package?
[23:39] <apachelogger> doing right now
[23:39] <apachelogger> SolarWar: if you write review requests public change is that someone else also starts to review
[23:39] <SolarWar> i'm considering putting a watch file in as well, but i need to read up on uscan
[23:41] <SolarWar> oh okay, i was going to request public reviews once you had had a chance to look it over, but i can ask publically as well
[23:42] <apachelogger> that is one minimal debian/rules file :D
[23:43] <SolarWar> seemed to do the job, i used another package as an example (gnomad2)
[23:44] <apachelogger> SolarWar: just weird, usually people add too much stuff in your case I have to check whether something is missing ;-)
[23:48] <SolarWar> ahh, I didn't know which helper scripts to call :) i think the call to dh_installexamples is largely useless as i have no examples
[23:49] <SolarWar> and i'm not sure about dh_gencontrol either
[23:51] <apachelogger> SolarWar: every debhelper script has a manpage
[23:52] <apachelogger> dh_gencontrol - generate and install control file
[23:52] <apachelogger> quite important ;-)
[23:52] <apachelogger> theoretically everything under dh_installman shouldn't be removed
[23:53] <SolarWar> i read the manpage for dh_gencontrol and it says that it will create a control file, but I already have a control file
[23:53] <apachelogger> SolarWar: dh_gencontrol is basically a wrapper for dpkg-gencontrol
[23:53] <apachelogger> I think it mentions that in the manpage
[23:54] <apachelogger> or I rather hope it does ;-)
[23:54] <apachelogger> SolarWar: so take a look at the dpkg-gencontrol manpage, that should lighten things up :)
[23:55] <SolarWar> okie doke
[23:55] <apachelogger> raphink: why is it that revu-report can't store it's stuff in a subdirectory :S