[00:01] * Arby leaves multimedia compiling and goes to sleep [00:01] see you tomorrow folks [00:02] night apachelogger [00:02] sry shoud've been Arby instead [00:47] ...and kdewebdev-kde4 is done [00:50] Only kdesdk, kdebindings, and kdebase-workspace left to go [00:55] JontheEchidna: great! [00:55] oh, and l10n if we're doing it [00:56] oh, and multimedia and pim are in progress [00:56] so I guess it's a bit more than I though but we're still almost done. ;) [00:58] so what are the intrepid packages waiting for? [01:00] * JontheEchidna debuilds kdesdk [01:07] JontheEchidna: I think the mainlines ones are all done for intrepid, still extragear to do [01:15] Riddell: linky? :) [01:16] the batcave must be out of date then [01:19] /msg'ed [01:19] 1.666666 hour eta on kdesdk [01:20] thanks :) === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [02:48] this is interesting, in vmware workstation when i try to click on anything on the task bar the configure panel section opens up [02:49] jjesse: I was going to reply to your kubuntu-devel mail, but since you're here ... [02:49] yes ScottK [02:50] jjesse: We now have a KDE4 version of Guidance Power Manager in Intrepid. [02:50] oh yay so i should try to use intrepid instead? [02:50] So as long as the kernel supports suspend/resume for your hardware, it ought to work as well as KDE3 would have. [02:50] good [02:50] No promises. [02:50] i wouldn't hold it to you [02:51] my old hard drive was just too small to dual boot + run vms [02:51] Personally, I'm not running intrepid yet, but I'm also happy in KDE3. [02:52] i've b een running vista since hardy's release [02:52] but don't tell anyone ;) [02:57] wow that quieted the crowd :) [02:57] anyways thanks for the info scott [02:57] ScottK [02:57] off to bed before the baby wakes up [04:35] evenin' :) [04:38] yo! [04:38] yo yo [04:39] how's things? [04:40] busy as usual [04:40] finished w/ school? [04:40] went on a nice ride through Chicago last night, took a nice hot ride today, and I am working on planning out a 50+ mile ride for tomorrow [04:40] ya, I dropped out of school yet again...went back to work, and starting riding my bikes hardcore again [04:41] cool [05:01] whoot [05:02] that's enough for one night [05:04] apachelogger: you have a bunch of mail heading your way === Mez is now known as Mez|Moving [08:29] apachelogger: does the batcave have tarballs for the extragear packages somewhere? [09:22] jeez [09:24] JontheEchidna, vorian, Arby, smarter: I love you guys! [09:27] that's what we're here for :) [09:28] apachelogger: where can we get tarballs for extragear? [09:28] Arby: extragear in the batdirectory [09:29] 100% fresh :D [09:29] I see them, I didn't think that was there before :) [09:29] that is why they are 100% fresh [09:29] and not 99 or 80 [09:30] are these just backports or do they need packaging for intrepid as well? [09:30] Arby: vorian already did them [09:30] ok cool [09:30] besides, I still think we should do them post-release and focus on QA for now :P [09:31] * apachelogger still has that user in mind claiming debian has better quality control [09:32] ok so what do we need to do for testing? [09:32] I suppose I should try to whip up an intrepid vm just for fun [09:33] Arby: hardy testing is more important [09:33] for intrepid we can always say it's WIP ;-) [09:33] true true [09:34] * apachelogger wants a server for a prepreprepre-kde-release repo [09:34] have we got a list of stuff somewhere, other than the bug lists I mean [09:35] Arby: stuff? [09:35] don't stuff me! [09:35] to be tested [09:35] Arby: maybe Nightrose can come up with something [09:35] she is always complaining ;-) [09:36] haha [09:36] Arby: I suppose starting KDE 3 apps is broken for example [09:36] morning [09:36] right [09:37] also "recently opened files" in kate never worked so far in kde 4 [09:37] well [09:37] that is upstreamish [09:37] doesn't work in intrepid either [09:37] is the dolphin crash fixed? [09:37] the one when you hover over video files [09:37] apachelogger: i know [09:37] ;-) [09:38] just trying to remember what i have been complaining about [09:38] * Arby opens kate [09:38] Arby: the video hover should be fixed with a newly compiled stack actually [09:38] * apachelogger thinks that was some abi breakage or something [09:38] is klipper starting up? [09:39] and can i start it without having to type "klipper" in krunner again now? [09:39] (auto starting that is) [09:40] hmm I think those are the things that bug me most right now ;-) [09:40] in dolphin, what is supposed to happen if I hover on a video file. some sort of preview? [09:40] it should not crash if you have the info bar added ;-) [09:41] Hi all, first time here. I'm having a real hard time building Digikam SVN on Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4.1rc1 [09:41] I can install all the dependencies, [09:42] ah, I don't. I'll add it back [09:42] but Digikam itself doesn't get through cmake [09:42] This is the end of cmake: [09:42] CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND. [09:42] Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files: [09:42] QT_QTOPENGL_LIBRARY (ADVANCED) [09:42] linked by target "kipiplugin_slideshow" in directory /home/hardy/digikam-notes/graphics/kipi-plugins/slideshow [09:42] linked by target "kipiplugin_imageviewer" in directory /home/hardy/digikam-notes/graphics/kipi-plugins/imageviewer [09:42] ... [09:42] dotancohen: #kde [09:42] or #kubuntu [09:42] or #kubuntu-kde4 [09:42] I did try #kubuntu, they sent me here :) [09:42] cool [09:43] I'll try asking on #kubuntu-kde4 though I do think that the -devel channel is the right place [09:43] Nightrose: that would be a fail then [09:43] no it is not [09:43] dotancohen: who sent you hear [09:43] dolphin locks up hovering on a video file [09:43] * apachelogger needs to beat someone up :P [09:44] Arby: with a completely new stack? [09:44] no, this is 4.0.98 [09:44] well, compile a stack and try again :P [09:44] * apachelogger can upload akonadi, soprano, automoc, phonon and kdelibs [09:44] what do you mean by stack exactly, recompile kde? [09:45] Arby: aye [09:45] actually [09:45] yikes [09:45] everything we updated [09:46] which are basically the above + runtime + workspace + base [09:46] Nightrose: * Removed kubuntu_13_hide_klipper.diff: [09:46] - Don't use NoDisplay since that breaks autostart [09:46] * Fixed klipper.install not to install the desktop file [09:46] Nightrose: so, yes to the first [09:46] no to the second question [09:47] apachelogger: does neon do kde nightly builds? [09:47] just trying to think of alternatives [09:47] I don't really want to break this machine [09:47] Arby: well, that is my point :P [09:47] if it breaks your machine [09:48] we have a serious problem [09:48] * Arby spots a vm approaching [09:48] oh, runtime finished [09:48] apachelogger: cool [09:48] hoooray [09:48] which I will then be unable to report because my machine exploded :P [09:49] google says yes [09:50] Arby: you should know how to use irssi :P [09:50] hum [09:50] bye typing alt-f2 conversation :) [09:50] s/c/k/ [09:50] my mediaserver server exploded [09:52] that looks pretty awful http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot052.png :S [09:52] * Arby rummages for a hardy cd [09:52] oh [09:52] but runtime finished [09:52] hooray [10:02] Riddell: did you not add kubuntu_09_kickoff_favourites.diff to workspace's series file by intention? [10:14] hey there [10:22] hm [10:22] hoy smarter [10:22] CMake Error at /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindPhonon.cmake:49 (message): [10:22] Phonon library or includes NOT found! [10:22] * apachelogger hands vorian the FTBFS flag :P [10:30] vorian: I see that you have packaged guidance-power-manager 4.1.0, so don't forget to commit your changes to the bzr branch ;) [10:35] I think my brain will explode soon [10:35] that much reviewing is just not healthy [10:36] :P === hunger_t_ is now known as hunger [10:38] vorian: fixed pimlibs === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [10:52] hello :) [10:53] apachelogger: you have akonadi ready? [10:53] apachelogger: this one might be interesting: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167524 [10:53] KDE bug 167524 in general "imap settings empty, akonadi server not recognized" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [10:54] apachelogger: in what package is /trunk/KDE/kdepim/akonadi ? [10:54] because that is what he is missing [10:55] toma: packaged 1.0.0 [10:55] toma: and I think we just didn't backport the changes I made for rc1 in intrepid [10:56] so that should hopefully be fixed with the upcoming packages :) [10:56] that is the /trunk/kdesupport/akonadi part [10:56] IIRC akonadi was not built properly at all [10:57] i still would like to know the name of the package that holdsthe stuff from /trunk/KDE/kdepim/akonadi [10:58] toma: akonadi-server, libakoandiprivate1, libakonadi-dev [10:58] though [10:58] no [10:58] * apachelogger diggs [10:58] thats all kdesupport stuff [10:59] http://packages.ubuntu.com/ would help if it was up [10:59] toma: akonadi-kde [10:59] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+package/akonadi-kde [10:59] i expect that to be kdepimlibs/akonadi [11:00] nope [11:00] built from kdepim [11:00] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepimlibs/4:4.0.98-0ubuntu1 [11:00] kdepimlibs' binaries [11:01] righty [11:01] thanks [11:01] i'll close the report [11:08] Arby: can you check if kde 3 apps start from kickoff or krunner if you have their kde 4 version installed [11:08] doesn't work since rc 1 in hardy [11:09] would be good to fix that with final [11:09] (it starts their kde 4 version instead) [11:28] Nightrose: OK, I'm just trying to get a vm set up for testing. [11:29] then I need to go out for a while, so I'll do some testing later this afternoon [11:30] Arby: great :) [11:30] thanks [11:30] Nightrose: for testing kde3 apps, do you mean on a kde [11:30] sorry [11:30] kde3 desktop or kde4, or both [11:30] kde 4 desktop [11:30] k [11:44] apachelogger: no, kubuntu_09_kickoff_favourites.diff should be added [11:45] Riddell: I'll add it to the series then [12:10] I'll take konq-plugins for hardy [12:11] damn, vorian totally ripped up extragear for intrepid [12:11] * JontheEchidna is impressed [12:44] * JontheEchidna is almost done with kdesdk [12:45] phew [12:45] workspace done [12:46] guidance-power-manager is upstream now? [12:46] we like to contribute back [12:47] That's awesome [12:47] woo! kdesdk done [12:49] apachelogger: which ftbfs flag is that? [12:49] :) [12:51] vorian: the one saying "apachelogger is cooler than I" [12:51] haha [12:51] which package, pim? [12:51] pimlibs [12:51] oh righto [12:51] I should testbuild kdepim [12:51] apachelogger: kdesdk coming your way [12:51] otherwise people will eat us again [12:51] \o/ [12:51] haaaa [12:52] oh nicy [12:52] we have a dep issue [12:52] * apachelogger looks [12:52] do you think that these packages I've built against the 4.0.98 libs are safe for consumption? [12:52] apachelogger: i think kpovmodeler needs to go multiple binaries [12:52] JontheEchidna: might as well not [12:53] eh yeah, it's just a bug fix release anyway [12:53] * JontheEchidna will be patient [12:53] I think I am going to start uploading to the build servers in ~12 hours [12:53] coolness [12:53] so we have enough time if something breaks [12:53] vorian: what makes you think that? [12:53] all the files that don't get installed :P [12:54] sounds reasonable [12:54] i threw in a kpovmodeler.install file with usr/* [12:54] but I think it can be done better [12:55] well IMO splitting only makes sense for multiple binaries which are mostly independent and for libs [12:55] vorian: do you know where I can get the extragear tarballs? [12:55] like I wouldn't have split the amarok 1.4 package into amarok and amarok-common [12:55] hmmm [12:56] It appears there can be data doc and libs binaries [12:56] yep [12:56] but they don't always make sense ;-) [12:56] haha [12:56] like for amarok it would be a much better idea to make it amarok and amarok-docs [12:57] since they are quite big and could save some space on the CD for example [12:57] nod [12:58] hm, something is defenitely wrong here http://paste.ubuntu.com/30890/ [12:58] Nightrose: either amarok is having threading problems or kde 4.1.0 does [12:58] * Nightrose looks [12:58] uh [12:59] apachelogger: how old is your build? [12:59] Nightrose: yesterdayish I think [12:59] or even todayish [13:00] ok [13:00] yesterday evening [13:00] k [13:00] apachelogger: forwarde [13:00] d [13:00] thx [13:01] * apachelogger tears vorian's kdebase-runtime apart :P [13:01] wha! [13:02] Depends: kdebase-runtime-data-common (>= ${source:Version}) | kdebase-data (<< 4:4.0.0-1) [13:02] Replaces: kdebase-data (<< 4:4.0.0-1), kdebase-bin (<= 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2), drkonqi [13:02] sometimes I am really wondering how these kde4 packages work at all :P [13:04] Conflicts: xserver [13:04] * vorian runs [13:05] I wouldn't be surprised to find that somewhere :P [13:05] haha [13:06] ah cool [13:09] * apachelogger installs example-content [13:10] apachelogger: i emailed you all those extragear packages because I'm not sure how much i'll be around monday and tuesday [13:10] I think we will get to extragear post-tuesday anyway [13:10] lots of testing to be done :( [13:11] Nightrose: video crash fixed [13:11] klipper autostart fixed [13:11] icons not appearing for the kickoff categories fixed [13:11] \o/ [13:11] excellent [13:12] Nightrose: kde3 app start fixed [13:12] wohooo [13:13] * Nightrose hands cookies to everyone who helped [13:13] ;-) [13:13] :) [13:13] oh, I get all the cookies I guess :P [13:13] :P [13:14] * apachelogger hands the packaging crew some bottles of beer and scuttles off for kdepim testbuilds [13:14] you can just leave the extras for everybody who helped backport [13:14] Do you think it might be a good idea to make a testing ppa? [13:14] We can copy the binaries over if they're good [13:14] JontheEchidna: yes in about 10 hours [13:14] though [13:14] or would people just switch to that new ppa anyway [13:15] I think soyuz should provide some kind of closed down ppa [13:15] and then complain when crap breaks [13:15] JontheEchidna: likely [13:15] ;-) [13:18] vorian: what is the status of hardy kdepim? [13:18] suck [13:18] cool [13:18] stuck* [13:18] hehe [13:18] vorian: but why? [13:18] ftbfs [13:18] fails at 14 or 15% [13:18] I tried a few tricks, and had to go to work [13:19] * apachelogger demands a paste [13:19] you'll need to wait a moment then :) [13:19] We could use ~kubuntu-members-kde4 to upload kde4.1.0 to intrepid, nobody is supposed to use that repo for intrepid anyway :P [13:20] smarter: I rather don't care whether 4.1.0 hits intrepid in time :P [13:21] * apachelogger needs to write some scripts for information gathering [13:21] we just need more debdiffs :D [13:23] har har [13:34] Arby: kdeaccessibility-kde4 (4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) hardy; urgency=low ;-) [13:35] fixed [13:35] * JontheEchidna goes to breakfast [13:46] Oo [13:46] Arby: something is defenitely wrong with kdegames - a debian directory should never be 86mib [13:50] * JontheEchidna guesses that debian dir just needs a debuild clean [13:53] righto [13:54] Arby: please clean your debian dir next time :) [13:54] 86mib is really a bit strange [13:54] * apachelogger wouldn't have looked into it for 85 ;-) [13:58] apachelogger: it was the patch in pim [13:59] god, I hate patches [14:04] vorian: kdebase-kde4 (4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) intrepid; urgency=low [14:04] I think we need a script for the changelog maniuplation :) [14:04] pfft [14:04] beast2 [14:04] that's me! [14:05] * apachelogger restarts pbuilder [14:06] apachelogger: you don't have one? [14:06] not yet [14:06] kubuntu-backport-tools [14:09] including a tarball renamer [14:09] * apachelogger always forgets to suffix the tarballs [14:11] JontheEchidna: libphonon-dev (>= 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) ... usually you would just go with 4:4.2.0 [14:11] * JontheEchidna just edited what was there [14:12] namely the 4.x.x stuff [14:12] vorian: you saw my highlight about guidance? [14:12] smarter: yeah :) [14:12] I'll push the change [14:12] ok, thanks ;) [14:12] I think all I did was add a manpage [14:12] Riddell: please take a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/245682 so kdelibs can finally be fixed [14:12] Launchpad bug 245682 in avahi "Please merge avahi 0.6.23-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] [14:13] vorian: don't forget to do "bzr add *" so that it add the new file then [14:13] roger [14:13] ah, no [14:13] patch had to be dropped [14:14] JontheEchidna: that ~hardy1~ppa1 was probably not there :P [14:14] vorian: which patch? [14:16] klocalize-crash [14:16] why? [14:17] it would not apply [14:17] vorian: then you should update it rather than removing :P [14:17] yep [14:18] * apachelogger can't read anymore [14:18] all packages got the 10% backport review [14:18] and even that was too much [14:18] vorian: need help? (: [14:19] smarter: you can do all of it, i don't mind [14:20] ok, send me your diff.gz :) [14:21] smarter: check your inbox :) [14:21] thanks [14:24] vorian: I don't see any manpage? [14:24] 13:13:36 < vorian> ah, no [14:24] 13:13:43 < vorian> patch had to be dropped [14:25] i was wrong, as always it seems [14:25] ah, only patch, okay then :) [14:40] apachelogger: guidance-power-manager update debian/ available on lp:~kubuntu-members/guidance/powermanager-ubuntu [14:53] * Arby reads the highlights [14:54] apachelogger: I thought something was up with games. [14:54] I'm never quite sure what is safe to remov thought [14:54] Arby: debuild clean [14:54] or debuild -S -sa [14:54] the latter invokes the former [14:54] I thought I did that [14:54] oh well [14:55] do you need me to re-send or did you fix it [14:56] fixed it [14:56] * apachelogger needs to run debuild -S -sa anyway :) [14:56] thanks [14:59] apachelogger: are the kde4 ppa and neon repository compatible or are they intended to be mutually exclusive? [14:59] i.e. can I use both without exploding the world [14:59] you should ;-) [15:00] ok. I will :) [15:02] Arby: i use both [15:02] no problems so far [15:03] excellent [15:03] eploding the world... interesting concept [15:03] +x [15:04] neon is way cooler than kde4 ppa anyway :P [15:04] for a certain value of world :) [15:04] libplasma-dev (>= 4:4.2.0) [15:04] interesting dep [15:05] well... back from the future? [15:05] back to the future(tm) [15:06] Nightrose: how did I explain that in promo language? [15:07] ...it's not actually wrong, just future-proof ... [15:07] something similar at least [15:07] :P [15:08] what do you mean, it is not wrong? [15:08] It will fail if you don't have anything 4.2.0 or higher [15:08] Do we already have 4.2.0? [15:10] that is the wrong attittude [15:10] txwikinger: tell me again in december :P [15:10] Well.. I will.. with a different accent though [15:11] oioi [15:21] Ah.. another amarok bug :D [16:40] who was working on the kdebindings backport? [16:41] apachelogger: you? [16:41] not on the backport [16:41] someone started work but apparently gave up [16:41] hmmm [16:41] me [16:41] Arby: what is the problem? [16:41] something to do with smoke and phonon [16:42] apachelogger: here is the pim failure http://paste.ubuntu.com/30945/ [16:42] hang on let's see if I can find the error [16:42] MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive [16:42]