[00:00] <XJman> How long does it typiclly take to install samba?
[00:00] <XJman> Obviously not as long as the article said
[00:22] <guido> I'm having a BadMatch Error with KWin, anyone knows how to fix this?
[00:25] <Atheossapiens> is there anybody here that can help me with the configuration of a broadcom 4310 for wpa
[00:25] <Atheossapiens> i am running kubuntu
[00:25] <Atheossapiens> 8.04
[00:26] <HighHo> !wireless
[00:27] <Atheossapiens> yep
[00:27] <Atheossapiens> the internal card works with routers that dont have encryption turned on
[00:27] <crimsun> Atheossapiens: AFAIK you'll have to use ndiswrapper.  b43 does not support it yet.
[00:28] <Atheossapiens> it works with the wl.o broadcom driver
[00:29] <Atheossapiens> does that mean that only non-secure routers will work with that driver
[00:29] <gooseiber> Apparently Netgear now do an open source router
[00:29] <crimsun> no, that is not the case, Atheossapiens.
[00:29] <gooseiber> I was looking at getting one
[00:29] <guido> I'm having a BadMatch Error with KWin, anyone knows how to fix this?
[00:30] <Atheossapiens> crimsun: the wl driver works great for non-secure routers
[00:30] <gooseiber> Some routers provide for mac code locking even without WPA
[00:30] <crimsun> Atheossapiens: what is "wl"?  ndiswrapper?  b43?  b43legacy?
[00:31] <Atheossapiens> i have a versalink 327w router/modem. wl is the broadcom driver that comes with ubuntu
[00:31] <crimsun> Atheossapiens: so...b43?
[00:31] <crimsun> Atheossapiens: (you can check via lsmod)
[00:31] <Atheossapiens> ok
[00:33] <Atheossapiens> all it says is wl
[00:33] <Atheossapiens> it is a proprietary driver
[00:43] <gooseiber_> I recently installed Kubuntu after using Gnome for a while and I am puzzled as to why the Konqueror start page link "Kubuntu Documentation" doesn't seem to work. Has anyone else experienced this? Where is the link "help:/kubuntu/" meant to point to?
[00:53] <Atheossapiens> just now i tried using wlassistant to connect and i received this error: network is unreachable, connection failed, stderr: error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A): set failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument
[00:54] <Atheossapiens> wicd gets as far as trying to get an ip address and then it fails
[00:55] <hatman> hi all !
[00:56] <g16> hi hatman
[00:56] <hatman> I'm trying to use my ATI card with dual-head (dual screen), but it only works before I login to KDE... Any Idea ? It seems KDE stop dual screen mode :-(
[00:56] <hatman> I have the proprietary driver of ATI...
[01:01] <Taladan> here's a question - how do I change my default file browser in Kubuntu in 7.10
[01:02] <inavat> hello.  I've been messing around with aticonfig and other stuff, trying to get my svideo-out to work.   I must've screwed something up, because the next time I rebooted, I just get a black screen.  When I went into recovery and had it reinitialize my xorg.conf, it worked again, but I'm not using the fglrx drivers anymore.
[01:02] <inavat> hello.  I've been messing around with aticonfig and other stuff, trying to get my svideo-out to work.   I must've screwed something up, because the next time I rebooted, I just get a black screen.  When I went into recovery and had it reinitialize my xorg.conf, it worked again, but I'm not using the fglrx drivers anymore.
[01:02] <inavat> oops
[01:02] <inavat> sorry
[01:02] <BluesKaj> Taladan: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser, then some apps like IRC clients
[01:02] <inavat> anyway, When I switched back to the copy of xorg.conf I had been using before I started messing around, I still get the black screen
[01:03] <BluesKaj> will need to reconfig
[01:03] <Agent_bob> i'm having an issue with k3b   it fails to burn anything.   is there some specital module i might need to modprobe?   ide dvd burner  ?
[01:04] <BluesKaj> inavat:  which ati card ?
[01:04] <Taladan> BluesKaj: Not the webbrowser...the file browser
[01:04] <Taladan> That's for the web-browser, ne?
[01:04] <Agent_bob> does k3b need hald to work ?
[01:05] <Agent_bob> !d3lphen
[01:05] <Agent_bob> well spelli it right and it will work
[01:06] <Agent_bob> !d3lphon
[01:06] <Agent_bob> f ?
[01:06] <BluesKaj> Taladan:  sorry , open konq /settings/configure konq/file associations/inode/directory/ choose konq , move up ..same goes for system directory
[01:07] <Agent_bob> !d3lphin
[01:07] <Agent_bob> Taladan   ^
[01:08] <Taladan> Awesome...you guys rock!
[01:08] <Taladan> Thanks to both of you
[01:08] <BluesKaj> NP Taladan
[01:08] <Taladan> Anyone else ever notice that the icons slowly 'fade' out in Dolphin as you mouse over them?
[01:09] <Agent_bob> if i could spell pea without doing it,  i might be more helpful
[01:09] <Taladan> Or is that just an oddity that I've seen?
[01:09] <Agent_bob> now why won't my k3b burn a dvd ?
[01:11] <Agent_bob> hmmm odd output    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6d496e6d
[01:12] <zabbadapp> Agent_bob: is there a file > 4Gig on the dvd? i think there was (is?) a general problem with that ... several files that together is >4Gig or an iso that is >4Gig is no problem to burn ...
[01:13] <Agent_bob> the dvd is blank
[01:13] <Taladan> Bad dvd maybe?
[01:13] <zabbadapp> i mean that you try to put on it
[01:13] <Agent_bob> Taladan second disk same error  so i doubt
[01:13] <Taladan> Hm
[01:14] <Agent_bob> zabbadapp the total size is  < 2g
[01:15] <Taladan> You burning an ISO or just creating a Data disc?
[01:15] <Agent_bob> data disk
[01:17] <guido> Hi
[01:17] <BlackDragonBE> hi
[01:17] <Agent_bob> i'm thinking that something that k3b relies on is not active.   hal  dbus   udev   something....
[01:18] <guido> Whenever I logout or restart from KDE, KDM crashes and the computer just hangs in there until I hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:18] <guido> thoughts anyone?
[01:18] <Agent_bob> guido yeah  try  ^C  to see if it's a command loop
[01:18] <Agent_bob> when it hangs
[01:19] <guido> ok, I'll give that a try now, brb
[01:20] <Agent_bob>  
[01:21] <Taladan> Agent_bob: what version of K3b do you have?
[01:23] <substrate> whenever I try to startx it tells me it doesn't have write access to ~/.ICEauthority.  This started happening after I tried to install KDE4 using "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop".  I'm wondering if a bunch of permissions got messed up because I used sudo?  Wouldn't this happen to everyone that tries to run that command (pulled from kubuntu's website)
[01:23] <guido> Agent_bob: I tried that ctrl c thing but nothing happened
[01:23] <guido> I had to ctrl-alt-del to kill kdm
[01:25] <Taladan> substrate: you can always try sudo chmod 777 ~/.ICEauthority
[01:27] <substrate> yea i was thinking of doing that last night but I haven't used linux in so long I forgot the chmod mask (or whatever you call it)
[01:27] <substrate> i'll try right now
[01:27] <inavat> hi.. I'm trying to get svideo out.  I have a mobility x1400.  I run the "ATI Catalyst Control Center", which is supposed to auto-detect the svideo out as a second display, but it doesn't
[01:27] <Taladan> And Agent_bob Looks (from googling) like this is a known bug with K3b, but I'm not finding a fix for it yet
[01:29] <substrate> lemmie restart x .. brb
[01:29] <Agent_bob> guido i hope you mean  ctrl+alt+backspace   not ctrl+alt+del    ?
[01:30] <guido> Agent_bob: nope.. had to do ctrl-alt-del, it just froze there without responding
[01:30] <guido> Agent_bob: I did the chkdisk afterwards
[01:30] <Agent_bob> Taladan don't waste your time.    it's not a bug per'se cause it works when i boot with *buntu defaults  but not in  lean/mean mode.
[01:31] <Agent_bob> guido use gdm ?
[01:31] <Agent_bob> guido more than one way to defur a feline
[01:31] <guido> Agent_bob: but wouldn't that create conflicts or whatever with my kubuntu?
[01:31] <Taladan> Agent_bob: Are you by chance trying to burn an mp3 or mpeg on there?
[01:31] <Agent_bob> nope
[01:32] <Agent_bob> to both questions   ^
[01:33] <substrate> yea i still get a bunch of other errors after kde starts about write permissions.  anyway, i installed kde4 using the command from the kubuntu website but if I just type "sudo startx" at the console it starts kde 3, not kde 4.  any ideas?
[01:33] <Taladan> hm, well, the only other suggestion that I saw that might work is set multisession mode off and set it to DAO burning.
[01:33] <Agent_bob> substrate own your home.   you probably did something with sudo that you should only do with kdesu
[01:34] <Agent_bob> Taladan i'll let you know when i find it.   and i will find it.   thanks for the effort.
[01:34]  * Taladan nods
[01:34] <Taladan> Just like to return the favour when I can
[01:35] <Slurb> hmm
[01:35] <substrate> Agent_bob:   umm,  own you home?  what?
[01:35] <Taladan> And I'm like you - I'll sit there and stew about an issue for months if I have to, but eventually work out a way to find the answer.
[01:35] <Slurb> anyone know anything about a microsoft laser mouse 6000
[01:35] <substrate> it shoots lasers
[01:36] <Slurb> yes invisible ones at that
[01:36] <substrate> and i prefer led to laser
[01:36] <Slurb> a laser is brighter
[01:36] <substrate> i find the led mice dont have as much shutter on rough surfaces.
[01:36] <Agent_bob> substrate    sudo chown $USER -R $HOME
[01:37] <Agent_bob> just like i typed it   ^
[01:37] <substrate> if i use my razer copperhead (laser) on a cloth surface it tracks worse than my razer diamondback (led)
[01:37] <Slurb> this one is pretty nice, it plays warsow well
[01:37] <substrate> Agent_bob:   ok tu i will try
[01:37] <Slurb> and its wireless
[01:37] <substrate> me no likey wireless  (laggy)
[01:38] <guido> does anyone know why could a vbox windows lose its shared clipboard ability?
[01:39] <Slurb> i can scroll across four desktops in about 10 inches of space
[01:39] <substrate> brb
[01:41] <substrate> Agent_bob:  well i did the sudo chown but it says cannot start kde something config
[01:41] <substrate> anyway
[01:41] <substrate> i just want to try to get kde4 working
[01:43] <Agent_bob> substrate what "something" ??
[01:43] <substrate> ahhh i could restart x i suppose ... i tried remembering it but im baked
[01:43] <substrate> brb
[01:43] <guido> Ok, fixed the clipboard thing.. it had been disabled by vbox
[01:44] <substrate> Agent_bob:     kstartupconfig
[01:44] <substrate> again, using "sudo startx" i get no errors
[01:45] <substrate> what is the proper command to start kde4 from console/
[01:45] <substrate> i use startx but it doesn't start kde4
[01:47] <Agent_bob> substrate sudo startx ????  why on earth would you start it as root ?
[01:47] <substrate> the reason is that i cannot start it otherwise
[01:47] <substrate> i get the kstartupconfig error
[01:48] <substrate> and the .ICEauthority error
[01:48] <substrate> this was all after trying to install kde4 as root
[01:48] <Agent_bob> yeah becaue root owns you now....
[01:48] <substrate> me thinks it overwrote a bunch of files with root permissions
[01:48] <substrate> but kubuntu's fucking website said to do it that way
[01:49] <VousDeux> !sisusb
[01:49] <Agent_bob> yes.  so kill xorg   and run   sudo chown -R $USER $HOME
[01:49] <Agent_bob> then without sudo....     startx and see if it errors
[01:49] <substrate> Agent_bob:  do you run kde3 or 4?
[01:49] <substrate> ok
[01:49] <Agent_bob> substrate not if i can help it i don't
[01:50] <substrate> console or gnome / other?
[01:50] <Agent_bob> coonsole
[01:50] <Agent_bob> console
[01:50] <substrate> yea me likes console too
[01:50]  * mlLK just installed kdebase, kdm, and xorg w/ apt-get on a heron server and the login screen displays (along w/  a functioning cursor) but doesn't respond
[01:50] <Agent_bob> i run console and typo mostly
[01:51] <mlLK> is there a way to install kdebase bypassing acpi ?
[01:51] <substrate> i just wanted to see kde4 ... that's all .... that's all ... so simple.  no ?
[01:51] <substrate> brb
[01:52]  * Agent_bob couldn't see why kdebase  would depend on acpi
[01:52] <mlLK> i've had the same issues before w/ ubuntu-desktop and i would often boot the live cd to safe-graphics mode and this fixed my problem
[01:52] <substrate> right on Agent_bob that works good
[01:52] <mlLK> cept i don't really know what to do in context of apt-get
[01:54] <Agent_bob> substrate for the record.   if you ever have to startx as root   either use   sudo -i    and then startx   or  sudo su - startx   or something that will set the full environment to root   and not just execute the command as root....   saves lots of headaches   "MINR"
[01:54] <Agent_bob> E
[01:55] <simula> does anyone have an opinion on the best video card for kubuntu (x86)?
[01:55] <simula> i'm swapping out the guts of my main box
[01:55] <substrate> after the kernerl and stuff is done loading, what file does it read from to start x and your wm and stuff?  it seems to start up x in a different way than "startx" does from the console.  fresh boot = kdm with kde4 look, but startx from console starts kde3
[01:55] <Agent_bob> substrate init  and the inittab file in /etc
[01:56] <substrate> kk tu me go look
[01:56] <Agent_bob> substrate don't ask me to explain the "upstart" aproach that *buntu now uses.  i'm a sysV init guy
[01:58] <Agent_bob> simula yeah i have one.     best is the card that will do what you want it to do at a reasonable price and is fully supported by FOSS      that last phrase would exclude ati and nvidia
[01:58] <Agent_bob> !foss
[01:58] <Agent_bob> first link   ^
[02:00] <simula> so agent_bob, what card would that be?
[02:01] <simula> i would love to grab an open spec card, but i don't know of any
[02:02] <substrate> so, let me get this straight, kdm is the kde desktop manager, and it controls which version of kde starts?  if i wanted to start kde4 instaed of kde3 i would have to modify some sort of kdm config file?
[02:03] <Agent_bob> doesn't have to be open spec,  just fully supported.     i.e.  if they will only furnish propritary driver for linux    avoid it if possable.   if it's supported natively  in linux and some are,  then see if it meets the other conditions
[02:04] <Agent_bob> substrate no.   kdm is kde's   "display" manager.   i.e. it's responsable for the graphical login process
[02:05] <substrate> ok, so for some reason i have kdm4 running (i.e. the new look with smooth black finishes on the windows) but after the login is complete kde3 starts.
[02:05] <Agent_bob> substrate and no.  no modification should be required.  there should be an option at login to "change session"  and you should see the kde4 listed
[02:06] <substrate> oh yes i remember that now.  i saw that a couple days ago.  the fonts are microscopic in kdm for some reason so i haven't bothered looking at it again
[02:06] <Agent_bob> all  *dm's try to respect the users "default session"
[02:06] <substrate> another thing screwed up =)
[02:06] <substrate> is it possible to logout of kde back to kdm without shutting down x ?
[02:07] <substrate> so that i can start kde4 instead of 3 ?
[02:07] <Agent_bob> substrate for magnifying  try   ctrl+alt+-    and use the mouse to mover the screen around
[02:07] <substrate> ok brb
[02:07] <Agent_bob> substrate in theory yes.   in practice   well  not exactly
[02:08] <substrate> ok
[02:08] <Agent_bob> substrate let me explain that
[02:08] <substrate> sure
[02:09] <Agent_bob> substrate when you select to "end current session"  it does kill the xserver and restart it back to the kdm login.    it's a quick blink  that most don't notice
[02:09] <substrate> oh ok i see
[02:09] <Agent_bob> but it is actually killing x there.  or "resetting" it.
[02:10] <substrate> you would have to edit the logout process
[02:10] <substrate> to not kill x then
[02:10] <substrate> if its possible
[02:10] <Agent_bob> yeah.  but there is no point in it.
[02:10] <substrate> yea most ppl wouldnt bother
[02:10] <substrate> 1 sec brb going to try kde4
[02:10] <Agent_bob> that half second saved wouldn't be worth the added "possable left running" processes
[02:12] <simula> agent_bob, do you know of any video cards that meet that criteria?
[02:12] <Agent_bob> i think i will build another initramfs image that doesn't use udev and test k3b with static device nodes.   "Agent_bob isn't a udev fan anyway"
[02:13] <Agent_bob> simula haven't kept up with the newer stuff  but intel has built several
[02:14] <simula> thanks for the intel suggestion agent_bob, i'll look into it
[02:14] <Agent_bob> s3  used to was.      i don't think they are even in business anymore
[02:14] <Agent_bob> that was an old skewl thought,  disreguard it.
[02:15] <Agent_bob> !hardware | simula
[02:15] <Agent_bob> !lag
[02:15] <Agent_bob> :)
[02:16] <simula> thanks for the hardware list agent_bob... much appreciated!
[02:16] <Agent_bob> np
[02:16] <Agent_bob> simula there are other lists on the interweb too
[02:16] <Agent_bob> maybe better suited to your search.
[02:16] <simula> cool, i'm searchin
[02:17] <simula> that page has two great links
[02:17] <Agent_bob> link is big ?
[02:17] <Agent_bob> oh great as in "you likey"   never mind.
[02:18] <Agent_bob> substrate root ?
[02:18] <substrate> yo yo
[02:18] <substrate> umm no
[02:18] <Agent_bob> k
[02:19] <substrate> just regular startx
[02:19] <substrate> but kde4 has microscopic fonts
[02:19] <substrate> lol
[02:19] <substrate> so now im back in kde3
[02:19] <Agent_bob> k just making sure you are fully aware of the implications of irc'ing as root
[02:19] <substrate> funny how kde4 is all black except for the "start menu"  (I'll call it)  and applications
[02:20] <substrate> i know i know .. someone hosed my box a long time ago when i did that
[02:20] <substrate> lol
[02:20] <Agent_bob> substrate i'm not familear with kde4  does it not have kcontrol ?    you should be able to "zoom in" use kcontrol and set all fonts to a larger size...  err at least that would work in kde3
[02:21] <substrate> i dunno.  i dont even know what kcontrol is :o/
[02:21] <substrate> you're talking to a complete linux noob here =)
[02:21]  * Agent_bob likes xorgs native ability to zoom the entire display
[02:22]  * Evil_DuDe likes to bring his head really close to a monitor
[02:22] <Agent_bob> substrate it's found in kde3 under kmenu > system settings    or you could just  alt+f2 type in kcontrol
[02:22] <substrate> yea i did ctrl-alt-+ but it just made the microscopic blurry fonts macroscopic blurry fonts   (i.e. the fonts were 3 point so that on the pixel level they were blurry.  even if blown up you can tell what the letters are, LOL)
[02:22] <Evil_DuDe> sounds kinda serious
[02:22] <substrate> is ctrl-alt-+ the same thing as kcontrol ?
[02:23] <Agent_bob> substrate did you hit it again and again till it looped all the way back to normal ?
[02:23] <Agent_bob> substrate no.  it is nothing like it.
[02:23] <substrate> na i left it on macroscopic level
[02:23] <Agent_bob> !kcontrol | substrate
[02:24] <Agent_bob> !info kcontrol | substrate
[02:24] <substrate> kcontrol = windows control panel?
[02:24] <Agent_bob> and is installed by default in kde3
[02:24] <Agent_bob> substrate more like windows  "my computer"  in some ways
[02:25] <Agent_bob> i.e. control pannel is in there too
[02:25] <substrate> oic oic
[02:25] <substrate> like system -> manage
[02:25] <substrate> sorta
[02:25] <substrate> but not really
[02:25] <substrate>  i mean right click my computer -> manage
[02:25] <Agent_bob> have a look and make up your own mind.
[02:25] <substrate> lol
[02:26] <Agent_bob> the structure is very reasonable after you stop thinking in M$ terms and think about kde in linux terms
[02:28] <Schuenemann> hey, how do I install a screensaver from kde-look.org ?
[02:28] <user1> what are the ways to install a .deb ?  i cant install it with gdebi ?
[02:29]  * Agent_bob thinks that if M$ wants to "own" software, they should pay off the national debt of their home country.
[02:29] <Agent_bob> user1 sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:29] <Agent_bob> Schuenemann the kde-look site should explain how
[02:30] <user1> Agent_bob:  ok
[02:30] <phil66> Which apps to use compiz-kde or compiz
[02:31] <Agent_bob> !compiz | phii66
[02:31] <user1> Agent_bob:  thx. it works
[02:32] <Schuenemann> Agent_bob, checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:32] <Schuenemann> this is my error when running ./configure
[02:32] <Agent_bob> !find xorg-dev
[02:32] <Agent_bob> prollly install  xorg-dev, xserver-xorg-dev
[02:33] <genii> Schuenemann: Install the -dev packages
[02:33] <Schuenemann> genii, which ones?
[02:33] <genii> (for compiling)
[02:33] <genii> Schuenemann: xorg-dev   at very least
[02:33] <Agent_bob> Schuenemann build-essential  for one
[02:34] <Agent_bob> !be | Schuenemann
[02:34] <genii> !b-e
[02:34] <Agent_bob> !b-e | Schuenemann
[02:34] <Schuenemann> I already have that one
[02:34] <genii> hehe
[02:34] <Schuenemann> installing xorg-dev (almost 13 MB)
[02:34] <Agent_bob> yep
[02:35] <genii> Schuenemann: You may want libx11-dev besides the xorg-dev
[02:35] <Schuenemann> genii, it's already in the dependencies
[02:35] <mad-maxx> Is anyone here a mentor in the mentoring program?
[02:36] <Agent_bob> genii have a coffee and take over  :)   i have life in the way of irc now.
[02:36] <genii> Agent_bob: I'll do what I can, although I AM trying to enjoy Sat night at home
[02:36] <genii> ;)
[02:37] <Agent_bob> then....
[02:37] <Agent_bob> let them eat cake  :)
[02:37]  * genii puts on another pot of coffee
[02:38] <Schuenemann> genii, can I make a .deb from that screensaver and avoid this pain for further times?
[02:39] <genii> Schuenemann: If you get it to the point where it could successfully do: sudo make install            then use checkinstall   instead to make the deb
[02:39] <Schuenemann> hmm
[02:39] <Schuenemann> well, checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[02:39] <Schuenemann> I guess I need qt-dev
[02:40] <Schuenemann> !info qt3-dev-tools
[02:40] <Schuenemann> is it this one, genii?
[02:42] <genii> Schuenemann: For kde3 it's qt3
[02:43] <leba__> hey, how do I change my nick here ?
[02:43] <Schuenemann> it's the headers package
[02:43] <Schuenemann> leba__, /nick yournick
[02:44] <genii> Schuenemann: I think the usual package is libqt3-mt-dev
[02:44] <leba> cool, thank you Schuenemann ! ;)
[02:46] <Schuenemann> checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[02:46] <Schuenemann> genii, this sucks
[02:47] <genii> Schuenemann: It's tedious yeah
[02:47] <Schuenemann> you know what is needed now?
[02:47] <guido_> I'm getting an error while doing a poweroff ia vbox windows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30730/ any thoughts?
[02:48] <genii> Schuenemann: The kdelibs-dev but forget exact version
[02:48] <Schuenemann> kdelibs4-dev is the only one I see
[02:48] <genii> Schuenemann: I think for kde3 it's kdelibs4-dev
[02:49] <Schuenemann> tons of dependencies and 12 more MB
[02:50] <Schuenemann> *yawn*
[02:50] <Schuenemann> I hope the screensaver is worth this all :-)
[02:54] <Schuenemann> genii, it passed, but sudo make does not: /bin/bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[02:55] <genii> Schuenemann: Don;t use sudo for ./configure or for make. Only for last step of (sudo) make install
[02:56] <Schuenemann> ok
[02:56] <Schuenemann> I don't have automake anyway, do I need it?
[02:56] <genii> Schuenemann: But in this case anyhow, to make a deb you need sudo checkinstall
[02:56] <genii> Schuenemann: automake is part of build-essential so you have it
[02:57] <Schuenemann> I don't...
[02:57] <Schuenemann> just checked, I have build-essential but not automake
[02:59] <genii> Schuenemann: Well, you can just apt-get install it if neccesary. I was pretty sure it came with that package for some reason, I don't recall specifically installing it seaparately
[03:00] <Schuenemann> genii, ok, look what I get anyway: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30735/
[03:00] <Schuenemann> with make
[03:00] <genii> reading
[03:01] <genii> Schuenemann: Try with -k
[03:01] <Schuenemann> genii, now this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30736/
[03:02] <genii> Schuenemann: Looks like something amiss with your ./configure options which made the Makefile
[03:03] <Schuenemann> hmmm
[03:03] <Schuenemann> any easy way to find it out?
[03:04] <genii> Schuenemann: Usually there is an INSTALL or README which documents the ./configure options. Occasionally opening the configure.in file itself sometimes they are listed in a place there as well (but not always)
[03:06] <Schuenemann> genii, yes, I always following INSTALL... nothing really helpful for me
[03:06] <nonewmsgs> how can i tell if i have a trojan?
[03:06] <genii> nonewmsgs: On your windows computer?
[03:06] <Schuenemann> there is cache, help, quiet, silent, -q, srcdir, version...
[03:06] <nonewmsgs> genii no on ubuntu
[03:07] <nonewmsgs> genii i downlaoded a linux program from a torrent and it didnt work but it seems like some of my other torrent saves are going to my desktop instead of my normal save spot.  i checked and ktorrent is set to put them in a different folder, or am i just being paranoid?
[03:08] <genii> nonewmsgs: No windows trojans can infect linux. However some macros which may come in a MS doc file that call Visual Basic might register as some trojan. But they can't really do to much
[03:08] <nonewmsgs> genii i am not talking about wine i am talking about installing a tarball
[03:09] <genii> nonewmsgs: Firefox will put downloads in one spot and your torrent programs will each put their files in their own specific locations
[03:09] <XJman> nonewmsgs: You should be fine
[03:09] <nonewmsgs> thanks guys.  i knew i should be fine but to hear it again always helps
[03:11] <Schuenemann> genii, is there anything I could do now about that screensaver?
[03:12] <genii> Schuenemann: Is te source fr it available from repositories?
[03:12] <Schuenemann> I downloaded from kde-look.org
[03:13] <Schuenemann> here: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KMatrix3d?content=52483
[03:13] <genii> Schuenemann: Gimme a while. I'll look into it
[03:14] <Schuenemann> thanks
[03:15] <genii> Schuenemann: It says the source versions are for Kubuntu Edgy (6.10)
[03:16] <genii> And also AMD64 kubuntu Which I figure likely for 6.10 version also
[03:16] <Schuenemann> where do you see that?
[03:16] <genii> Schuenemann: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=188204
[03:16] <Schuenemann> I thought source codes like... independed from a particular version
[03:17] <genii> Schuenemann: Not particularly. The stock or vanilla sources are "patched" for specific flavours like debian or so on. Because libraries and other things are different
[03:18] <genii> Schuenemann: Anyhow on that same page is an i386 deb file which *might* work
[03:18] <Schuenemann> well, how would someone not having those platforms compile it, then?
[03:18] <Schuenemann> the .deb is for edgy
[03:19] <genii> Schuenemann: You can try install and see if it groans about dependencies or such.
[03:19] <Schuenemann> let me see
[03:20] <Schuenemann> it seems to be working
[03:21] <Schuenemann> and it's beautiful :D
[03:21] <genii> Nice
[03:21] <Schuenemann> thank you
[03:21] <Schuenemann> (although I think it's pretty simple, I expected more)
[03:22] <baudthief> When I try and start Audacious, I get the following:
[03:22] <baudthief> ** (audacious:16766): WARNING **: Unable to connect to dbus: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session
[03:22] <baudthief> then it segfaults.
[03:23] <baudthief> Tried reinstalling, etc, no luck. Any ideas?
[03:24] <baudthief> ok just installed dbus-x11, no more dbus error - but it still segfaults
[03:25] <Schuenemann> genii, is it possible to remove the default screensavers? Most of them are very boring
[03:26] <guido_> I'm trying to fix KDM, whenever I try to close a session or restart the computer it hangs and I have to kill it from another terminal. Any thoughts?
[03:29] <baudthief> fixed, erased config
[03:30] <guido_> I'm trying to fix KDM, whenever I try to close a session or restart the computer it hangs and I have to kill it from another terminal. Any thoughts?
[03:31] <tomahasamoot> why does x11 need the rt kernal?
[03:32] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann:  you can use your pictures as a slide show screensaver if you wish  system settings /desktop/screensaver/banners and pictures/slideshow /setup/ your pictures folder
[03:33] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I actually want to choose a random one, but remove those boring so they won't show up
[03:33] <BluesKaj> I prefer my own pics in a random setup
[03:34] <Schuenemann> I don't want pics, I want those nice opengl ones :-)
[03:35] <BluesKaj> well , to each his own ...
[03:35] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, any way to remove some of the default ones?
[03:35] <tomahasamoot> why doesn't xorg start w/out the rt kernel?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> dunno, never used 'em , Schuenemann
[03:36] <guido_> I'm trying to fix KDM, whenever I try to close a session or restart the computer it hangs and I have to kill it from another terminal. Any thoughts?
[03:41] <dubby> hey anyone here know how to install kubuntu on a raid array that i set up through bios ?
[03:45] <alt-> hello
[03:45] <soorya> I am in India
[03:46] <alt-> hello soorya, i'm in france :s
[03:46] <soorya> What is your nAME?
[03:46] <Sevenhill> :)
[03:47] <soorya> HOW ARE YOU MY FRIENDS?
[03:47] <alt-> o_o
[03:47] <BluesKaj> dubby , just install it like any other OS , afaiak
[03:47] <Sevenhill> o_O
[03:47] <soorya> I am using Kubuntu
[03:48] <BluesKaj> congratulations soorya  :)
[03:48] <dubby> BluesKaj: on a raid array, its weird, i have /dev/mapper/jmicron that i can see but whenever i try to write to it it says that the file does not exist
[03:48] <dubby> jmicron is my bios that created the raid array
[03:49] <BluesKaj> which raid setup are you using dubby ?
[03:49] <soorya> I am not an Linux expert
[03:49] <BluesKaj> 0, 1 , 5 ?
[03:49] <dubby> i read on google and ubuntu forums from live-cd instal dmraid first and then it would work, yet i am unable to install any application while using live cd, and i am using a striped raid-0
[03:50] <soorya> Do you know anything about ISRO?
[03:50] <BluesKaj> striped raid 0 is not recommended for safe backup of files , there's no redundancy
[03:51] <alt-> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde instead of gnome ?
[03:51] <dubby> BluesKaj i did not want it for redundancy infact I wanted a jbod just to put like 3 200g hard drives together into a single 600, if they degrade then so be it, im trying to learn
[03:52] <BluesKaj> all hdds are acting as one in raid-0 ...if one fails , your setup is screwed
[03:52] <soorya> I want some hot websites
[03:52] <alt-> my inglish may be dirty..
[03:53] <BluesKaj> if you used raid5 , then you could stripe 2 and use one as the backup
[03:53] <soorya> Looks very dirty
[03:53] <alt-> sry :D
[03:53] <alt-> yours too
[03:53] <soorya> Are you male or female?
[03:53] <alt-> male..
[03:54] <BluesKaj> alt-, yes kubuntu uses kde desktop environment
[03:54] <BluesKaj> !kde
[03:54] <alt-> thanks BluesKaj
[03:54] <soorya> Where do you live?
[03:54] <alt-> france
[03:55] <soorya> I am in Tirunelveli, South India, India
[03:55] <duuby> hey again sorry
[03:55] <duuby> :-/
[03:55] <alt-> :o
[03:55] <dubby> sorry
[03:56] <alt-> stupid question: is kde better than gnome ?
[03:56] <soorya> Have you ever been to India?
[03:56] <dubby> BluesKaj: sorry yes, I know the risks of a raid-0 array and still would like to place an installation upon it
[03:56] <alt-> never :s
[03:56] <BluesKaj> alt-, it's a matter of taste and preference
[03:57] <alt-> ok
[03:57] <soorya> India is a superb country!
[03:57] <dubby> Every tech support call i ever made has gone to someone in inda
[03:57] <dubby> india *
[03:57] <alt-> lol
[03:57] <dubby> anywho
[03:58] <dubby> Yes I know the risks involved in a raid-0 array and a jbod (which i would have preferred further) , BluesKaj, do you believe if it was a raid-1 array it would be any different?
[03:58] <dubby> and then easier to install
[03:59] <BluesKaj> yes, i think so dubby
[03:59] <soorya> What's special in your country?
[03:59] <dubby> ok then that is what i shall try
[03:59] <alt-> wine !
[03:59] <dubby> thank you
[04:01] <soorya> What about your countries girls?
[04:01] <alt-> they're nice :p
[04:02] <alt-> we have a lot of tourist...
[04:02] <soorya> Saree is the sexiest dress!
[04:02] <BluesKaj> !wine
[04:02] <alt-> Oo;
[04:03] <alt-> wine is a drink :s
[04:03] <BluesKaj> not on linux
[04:03] <soorya> go to www.aol.in/bollywood to see hottest pictures
[04:03] <soorya> Are you using linux?
[04:03] <alt-> yes !
[04:03] <alt-> for the first time
[04:03] <alt-> i'm a little bit lost
[04:04] <soorya> Which Linux are you using?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> alt-, what are you trying to do
[04:04] <alt-> ubuntu
[04:05] <alt-> i love it :x
[04:05] <soorya> Kubuntu is better in Appearance than Ubuntu!
[04:06] <alt-> i think i gonna try to get kde
[04:07] <soorya> What is the speed of youe connection
[04:07] <BluesKaj> alt-, you can install kubuntu-desktop , then when you login you can choose between gnome and kde , whichever suits your fancy that session .
[04:07] <alt-> oh
[04:07] <alt-> nice
[04:07] <alt-> !kde
[04:07] <soorya> Do you have any blog account?
[04:07] <alt-> nope
[04:08] <soorya> Give me some hot websites that you know?
[04:08] <alt-> er....
[04:08] <kryp7ik> i have a problem with my internet connection being slow
[04:09] <alt-> what do you mean by "hot"
[04:09] <kryp7ik> i know in the gnome desktop enviroment in firefox you can type about:config edit options
[04:09] <kryp7ik> this doesnt work in kde konqueror
[04:10] <alt-> what fancy mean BluesKaj ? :s
[04:10] <soorya> sexy i mean
[04:10] <kryp7ik> i have dsl but connecting with dial-up speed
[04:11] <BluesKaj> alt-, well in this case fancy means , mood
[04:11] <mhz128> How do I force VLC or other mp3 players to open a file in the same window? instead of opening a new instance each time
[04:11] <kryp7ik> it was the ipv6 that i changed to true in firefox does anyone know if this works for kubuntu or how to access these options?
[04:12] <alt-> ok i understood ;)
[04:12] <alt-> -i*
[04:12] <kryp7ik> is there anyone that can help me or someone that can point me to somewhere else where someone might be able to help
[04:15] <kryp7ik> anyone?
[04:15] <alt-> not me, sorry :s
[04:15] <kryp7ik> theres like 968759907 people in here that use kubuntu someones gotta know what the hell they are doing
[04:16] <BluesKaj> kryp7ik, change it back to false then do this :open the Run Command (alt+F2) & type; kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist...then add this line : blacklist ipv6 , save the file and reboot. then open the konsole and do:' ip a | grep inet6 If there's no output, IPv6 is disabled
[04:16] <alt-> i think kde has failed to install
[04:17] <kryp7ik> thank you
[04:17] <kryp7ik> and i didnt change it to true only on another harddrive with gnome
[04:17] <kryp7ik> i was trying to access it but wasnt sure how
[04:17] <kryp7ik> thanks for the help
[04:17] <BluesKaj> ok YW
[04:18] <alt-> "not enougth space" T_T
[04:18] <kryp7ik> kdesukate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:18] <kryp7ik> is that right
[04:18] <kryp7ik> it said could not run specified command
[04:19] <BluesKaj> kryp7ik, use the run command , alt+F2
[04:19] <kryp7ik> i did
[04:19] <kryp7ik> nevermind
[04:19] <kryp7ik> i didnt use the space
[04:20] <alt-> how to check space avables on my hard-drive partition for linux ?
[04:20] <kryp7ik> between kdesu kate
[04:20] <BluesKaj> kryp7ik, let copy & paste be your friend :)
[04:20] <kryp7ik> yea yea
[04:20] <kryp7ik> i did lol
[04:20] <kryp7ik> thanks
[04:20] <kryp7ik> i just like typing :D
[04:21] <BluesKaj> I type as little as possible ..I'm so crappy at it
[04:21] <kryp7ik> lol
[04:22] <BluesKaj> sacktime for old guys ... night folks
[04:22] <kryp7ik> g'night
[04:22] <kryp7ik> thanks for the help
[04:23] <alt-> can someone help me ?
[04:23] <soorya> Sorry I went to take my breakfast. Shall we continue France Guy?
[04:25] <soorya> How old are you alt?
[04:25] <alt-> 22
[04:26] <soorya> I am only 16
[04:26] <soorya> I a Female
[04:27] <alt-> from india :o
[04:28] <soorya> guido! want to chat with me?
[04:29] <alt-> if u want
[04:29] <alt-> but last cig for me, and i go to sleep :)
[04:33] <soorya> Nice Dreams I am leaving
[04:36] <bdizzle> hello
[04:36] <alt-> hello
[04:37] <alt-> do you have unbuntu ? i need a litte help :s
[04:37] <bdizzle> I'm using Hardy 8.0.4.1 and I'm trying to get firefox to work, but it takes at least a minute to load, often freezes to a grey screen after a minute or two, and then always claims that it crashed when I try to reload it
[04:38] <bdizzle> anyone know how to fix it?
[04:38] <bdizzle> alt-, I might be able to help, though I use Kubuntu, not Ubuntu
[04:38] <soorya> Go to http://getfirefox.com/releases Bdizzle!
[04:39] <alt-> i just need to know how to list process in the terminal
[04:39] <alt-> like to kill one...
[04:39] <bdizzle> ps -A
[04:39] <alt-> thank you !
[04:39] <bdizzle> then kill (process number)
[04:39] <alt-> you have firefox 3 K?
[04:39] <bdizzle> yeah, both firefox 2 and firefox 3
[04:39] <bdizzle> neither of them worked
[04:39] <alt-> oh
[04:39] <alt-> i can't help you sorry :(
[04:40] <bdizzle> which is angering,  I had them working before I had to reformat harddrive and reload everything
[04:40] <soorya> Try asking you question in Yahoo Answers
[04:40] <soorya> Download and Install Alien Package. Then convert them to deb packages
[04:41] <bdizzle> yeah, I've got alien, but I thought that only works for .rpm files
[04:41] <bdizzle> how would I use alien for .tar.bz files?
[04:43] <bdizzle> okay, silly question. On the package manager, it says that Firefox 3.0 gnome support is installed. Shouldn't that be KDE support for Kubuntu?
[04:46] <alt-> bdizzle:  you should try to install it :s
[04:46] <bdizzle> lol
[04:47] <soorya> bdizzle are you female as I
[04:47] <bdizzle> no
[04:47] <alt-> so
[04:48] <alt-> i have to quit you
[04:48] <alt-> cya :)
[04:48] <bdizzle> why?
[04:48] <bdizzle> hold on, I'm almost done trying to re-install
[04:48] <bdizzle> though I'm not entirely sure how to use alien
[04:48] <alt-> o_o
[04:49] <alt-> i'm totally noob in linux and my english sux-a-lot
[04:49] <alt-> i realy can't help you
[04:49] <alt-> and my bed is calling for me :p
[04:49] <bdizzle> yeah, it won't let me install it
[04:49] <bdizzle> lol
[04:50] <alt-> so have fun
[04:50] <alt-> good night
[04:53] <soorya> I want any Indians Please!
[04:53] <bdizzle> huh?
[04:54] <soorya> bdizzle are you an Indian?
[04:55] <bdizzle> um, no
[04:55] <bdizzle> American
[04:55] <bdizzle> very very tired american
[04:55] <bdizzle> grr, and I still can't get firefox to work properly
[04:56] <bdizzle> this is annoying now
[04:57] <soorya> Cool!
[04:57] <bdizzle> what dependencies does firefox have?
[04:57] <bdizzle> maybe I'm missing something there
[05:00] <soorya> I don't know
[05:04] <soorya> Let's start discussing hot politics
[05:09] <soorya> Aranael! i am from India
[05:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> !ot | soorya
[05:29] <soorya> online
[05:30] <guido_> hey guys, can anyone tell me if my sources.list has anything wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/30785/
[05:53] <Nickmeister2006> greetings fellow kubuntu users
[05:59] <mister---t> !hi
[06:05] <Valros_> ok i know this is very off topic but whats the price for a few gigs of data recovery off of a 2.5 inch usually run, because im sure geek squad is overpriced as hell
[06:12] <guido_> hi
[06:13] <enterusername> hello
[06:14] <enterusername> I am having a problem withmy overclocking for CPU and usnig speed step
[06:14] <enterusername> and was wondering if anyone solved the issue. When i run with speedstep linux doesnt go pass the 2.4
[06:14] <enterusername> however ive got my system overclocked to 3.2
[06:14] <enterusername> im using cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:15] <Darkrift411> my laptop just stopped booting.. not sure whats wrong but sometimes it will load kde and the kicker, others it wont. when it does, nothing works (doesnt finish loading my auto start programs)
[06:16] <Darkrift411> sometimes i can click the kde button and a menu will come up, but it kinda locks there
[06:16] <Darkrift411> cannot boot to console
[06:16] <Darkrift411> only thing that seems to work every time is ctrl-alt-backspace, which lets me relogin and watch it fail all over again
[06:16] <Darkrift411> anyone got any ideas?
[07:07] <soorya> I am Online. Any one want to talk with sexy girl like me?
[07:08] <genii> soorya: This is not a channel for that kind of discussion. Here we discuss technical issues and problems concerning the linux distribution of Kubuntu
[07:09] <soorya> I am Sorry
[07:09] <soorya> I am just joking
[07:09] <soorya> Infact I am male
[07:10] <genii> soorya: If you do not have some technical support issue involving the use of Kubuntu linux which you require assistance with then you are in the wrong place.
[07:18] <chackal_sjc> hey guys
[07:18] <chackal_sjc> why my ~/.profile is not sourced when the system starts??
[07:19] <Jucato> chackal_sjc: http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id2559604
[07:19] <Darkrift411> i came home tonight to my kubuntu 7.10 laptop having internet problems (irc worked, that is all though). after trying to reconnect, i rebooted. since then i have not been able to boot up fully. kde will sometimes load, but nothing runs (my autoload programs dont even start). nothing works at all except ctrl-alt-bkspc which just restarts the loop. renaming .kde didnt help. im at a recovery console, is there anything i can do?
[07:20] <Me> Wow, I have never heard of anything... like that at all.
[07:20] <Me> Have you done any console or cut and paste any script you didn't fully understand?
[07:21] <genii> Darkrift411: In recovery kernel does it have internet?
[07:21] <Darkrift411> lately the only thing i did was installing java vm
[07:21] <Darkrift411> no genii
[07:21] <Darkrift411> ifup eth1 gives error
[07:21] <Darkrift411> unknown interface
[07:21] <chackal_sjc> Jucato: and here can I edit the Xsession file?
[07:22] <Me> Is KDE your only Enviro?
[07:22] <genii> Darkrift411: PErhaps try:         dpkg --configure -a
[07:22] <Darkrift411> ?
[07:22] <Darkrift411> gave no output
[07:23] <Jucato> chackal_sjc: "here"?
[07:23] <genii> Darkrift411: If you shut the machine down while it was applying updates and this is the root cause of the issue, this will compell it to finish configuring whatever it was in the middle of configuring.
[07:23] <Darkrift411> nah, that didnt happen
[07:23] <Darkrift411> i rebooted normally
[07:23] <chackal_sjc> Jucato: but do you know?
[07:23] <Darkrift411> and last updates i did myself (was some php updates but nothing else)
[07:23] <genii> Darkrift411: OK. Have you scanned the drive for errors?
[07:23] <Darkrift411> no because fsck needs it unmounted
[07:23] <Darkrift411> and its mounted
[07:23] <Darkrift411> nobody can tell me any other way :(
[07:24] <Me> What about if he did a "sudo apt-get uninstall kubuntu-desktop" and then a "sudo apt-get install Kubuntu-desktop"?
[07:24] <Darkrift411> cant, no internet
[07:24] <Me> Would that solve the problem?
[07:24] <Me> Shit...
[07:24] <Darkrift411> yeah....
[07:24] <Jucato> chackal_sjc: what do you mean? Do I know what?
[07:24] <soorya> william iam ready
[07:24] <Me> Boot up a Live CD.
[07:24] <chackal_sjc> Jucato: do you know where is located Xsession file?
[07:24] <genii> Darkrift411: If you are already in recovery kernel it's fine. Just issue:   mount -o remount ro /      then run the fsck on the / partition
[07:24] <Me> Download the package.
[07:25] <Darkrift411> i c
[07:25] <Me> Then install in recovery.
[07:25] <Jucato> chackal_sjc: just edit (or create) your ~/.xsession file and make it source your ~/.profile file
[07:25] <Darkrift411> gave error about scanning mounted filesystems
[07:25] <Darkrift411> just continue?
[07:25] <Me> Would that work? or can you save in a live?
[07:25] <Me> Never tried.
[07:25] <genii> Me: First to discover if hardware or software is at fault then to proceed forward once this is known.
[07:26] <genii> Darkrift411: Yes, continue
[07:26] <Darkrift411> . /dev/sda1: recovering journal
[07:26] <Me> I'm kinda  a newbie, I may not have the best advice.
[07:26] <genii> Darkrift411: Good.
[07:27] <Darkrift411> . /dev /sda1: clean, 560353/9535488 files, blah blocks, (check after next mount)
[07:27] <chackal_sjc> Jucato: okay, thanks.. and do you know about the Xstartup??
[07:27] <Jucato> chackal_sjc: no
[07:27] <genii> Darkrift411: OK, so software is the issue. You've already eliminated settings in .kde folder. So then most likely suspect is some modification to the xorg.conf file
[07:27] <chackal_sjc> Jucato: okay, thanks anyway
[07:28] <Darkrift411> i dont see how/why
[07:28] <Jucato> chackal_sjc: also see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html
[07:28] <Darkrift411> kde LOADS, just nothing will run
[07:28] <Darkrift411> it loads, i get kicker and i get tooltips if i hover over icons on my desktop
[07:28] <Darkrift411> but clicking on anything basically locks me up
[07:28] <genii> Darkrift411: Hmm. OK.
[07:28] <Darkrift411> kde button opens menu, but then locks it up
[07:28] <genii> Darkrift411: What is the name of your user which logs in there?
[07:28] <Darkrift411> darkrift
[07:29] <Darkrift411> i created a new user, but when trying to login to that user it gave error
[07:29] <chackal_sjc> Jucato: ok, is .xsession a bash script?
[07:29] <genii> Darkrift411: It seems then to be a permissions issue
[07:30] <genii> Darkrift411: Did you try to change permissions of the users home folder or similar lately?
[07:30] <Darkrift411> nope
[07:30] <Jucato> chackal_sjc: probably, or a shell script (not necessarily bash), that's sourced by X
[07:30] <Me> Would it load up with permission from "xinit"?
[07:30] <Darkrift411> ok, last things i did was install java vm (used isntructions on ubuntu forum)
[07:30] <Me> Or are you in an environment?
[07:30] <Me> YOu said it won't load right?
[07:30] <Darkrift411> told me to create /usr/java, download the .bin and run it. which i did
[07:31] <Darkrift411> i then installed a java web stats program
[07:31] <Darkrift411> what wont load?
[07:31] <Me> KDE..
[07:31] <Darkrift411> it loads
[07:31] <chackal_sjc> Jucato: okay.. one stuff.. I need to start a program as root.. so the autoload will not handle it, right?
[07:31] <Darkrift411> but after it loads, nothing works
[07:32] <genii> Darkrift411: Does: ls -la /home/darkrift       show all the things there as owned by user darkrift and group darkrift ?
[07:32] <Darkrift411> yes
[07:32] <Me> xinit, you would load as root.
[07:32] <Jucato> chackal_sjc: if you put it in /usr/share/env/, it might. if it doesn't, not sure how
[07:32] <Darkrift411> well, one thing is owned by root and in group darkrift, but thats my .lightscribe folder
[07:33] <Darkrift411> and that works fine
[07:33] <Darkrift411> well, has worked fine
[07:33] <genii> OK
[07:33] <Darkrift411> .nano_history is root root
[07:33] <simi> hi, i compiled my own kernel(build my drivers and other required module into kernel), i tried 3 difrent .configure (in some i do not disable any modules) Problem is that i do not have sound or network driver
[07:33] <genii> Darkrift411: Did part of the instructions involve adding the user to a new group?
[07:33] <simi> any ideea ?
[07:33] <Darkrift411> no
[07:34] <Darkrift411> i did hav eto do apt-get someting alternatives-java
[07:34] <Darkrift411> and change someting in there
[07:34] <Darkrift411> which didnt work, so i used a different method
[07:34] <genii> Hmm
[07:35] <genii> Wait. Is this kde3 or kde4 ?
[07:35] <Darkrift411> 3
[07:35] <genii> OK. So /kde would have been correct and not .kde4
[07:35] <genii> bah typos
[07:35] <chackal_sjc> Jucato: okay, I iwll try it
[07:35] <genii> The / -> .
[07:36] <carib909> Running  kubuntu 8.04 and kde4 trying to set up samba but error in terminal after "sudo etc/samba/smb.conf" 'cannot connect to xserver'
[07:37] <Darkrift411> is there a log somewhere i can read?
[07:37] <chackal_sjc> Jucato: there is no /usr/share/env
[07:37] <Darkrift411> when kde is trying to load?
[07:37] <carib909> Any ideas why, how to fix?
[07:37] <genii> Darkrift411: They would be mostly in /var/log
[07:37] <genii> Darkrift411: The xorg.0.log  mostly be of interest I imagine
[07:38] <Jucato> chackal_sjc: you'll have to create it I think
[07:38] <Darkrift411> doesnt exist
[07:38] <Darkrift411> and nothing with *kde*
[07:38] <genii> Darkrift411: Xorg.0.log    I forgot uppercase X in this instance
[07:39] <Darkrift411> ahh
[07:39] <genii> Darkrift411: kde does not keep it's logs there
[07:40] <genii> Darkrift411: The logs of individual kde apps are in like /home/username/.kde/share/apps/             then appname directory. Then in there is a specific log to that specific kde app
[07:40] <Darkrift411> dont see anything that loooks like an error near the end of the Xorg log
[07:41] <carib909> Anyone well versed with samba?
[07:43] <genii> Darkrift411: There are other logs in the main /var/log  which can also be useful for study. mostly:    messages   dmesg user.log syslog faillog and daemon.log
[07:43] <Darkrift411> dmesg looks normal
[07:44] <carib909> genii good morning
[07:44] <genii> dmesg is mainly for hardware issues
[07:44] <genii> carib909: Hello. Although 2:44AM in my case could sort of still be evening :)
[07:45] <carib909> Only 12:44 here in Cali.
[07:45] <carib909> any idea why my editor cannot connect to Xserver?
[07:46] <genii> What is the editor named?
[07:47] <carib909> genii I was using kate
[07:47] <genii> carib909: Did you by accident use   sudo        to run it sometime previous?
[07:47] <carib909> genii sudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:47] <genii> Instead of for instance in this case proper kdesu
[07:48] <carib909> I sure have. Is that a bad thing?
[07:48] <genii> Yes, a bad thing but not irrepairable
[07:48] <carib909> genii please advise why and what to do next time...
[07:49] <carib909> oic
[07:49] <Darkrift411> i created a new user using useradd, how do i make it so that user can be loaded with kde?
[07:49] <Darkrift411> right now i get "could not start kstartupconfig. check your installatoin"
[07:49] <genii> carib909: Always run KDE graphical apps with kdesu when you wish to use them in admin mode. For gnome apps always use gksu
[07:49] <carib909> aight...thanks
[07:50] <carib909> genii so now I broke something... how do I fix it?
[07:50] <genii> carib909: What is the username you login as? Things in their home directory need to be changed all back to their permissions regarding kate
[07:51] <carib909> ok, so if I used "carib", how do I reset permissions?
[07:52] <genii> carib909: Then like:   sudo  chown -R carib:carib /home/carib/.kde
[07:52] <carib909> genii sudo and not kdesudo?
[07:52] <Darkrift411> kde has no reinstall or restore?
[07:53] <genii> carib909: sudo is for command line commands. kdesu if for running graphical apps as temporary elevated privelege
[07:53] <carib909> genii ok, let me try it..
[07:53] <genii> Darkrift411: Unfortunately not really. You might want to last ditch try  something like sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[07:54] <Darkrift411> will that require internet?
[07:54] <genii> Emphasis on "last ditch" part
[07:54] <Darkrift411> well at this point, im there
[07:54] <genii> Darkrift411: Not usually
[07:54] <Darkrift411> im in 3 linux/kde related channels and nobody has any other ideas
[07:54] <genii> Darkrift411: You might want to make cdrom the only repository
[07:55] <carib909> genii error says "chown: invalid option -- r"
[07:56] <genii> carib909: upper case Rwith a - directly before it
[07:56] <genii> eg:   -R
[07:56] <Darkrift411> fsck forced a check on my drive... letting that finish
[07:57] <carib909> genii it accepted that command
[07:57] <carib909> now kdesudo kate?
[07:57] <Darkrift411> if i boot to a kde live cd, is there a way to restore or anything?
[07:57] <Darkrift411> i cant believe there is nothing i can do here
[07:57] <genii> carib909: Good. alt-f2    then kdesu kate /file/place/name.here
[07:57] <Darkrift411> this isnt windows..... it shouldnt just die on me
[07:57] <Darkrift411> and yes..... drive errors it seems
[07:57] <genii> carib909: kdesu is generally better at this time to use than kdesudo
[07:58] <Darkrift411> exception Emask and buffer io errors on sda1
[07:58] <genii> Darkrift411: Hmm. Maybe on partition if separate than / whic could be /home or so
[07:59] <carib909> genii type exactly that? or do I need to change to specific file names?
[07:59] <Darkrift411> automatic fsck failed. manual must be peformed then system restarted, root fs mounted in r/o mode.
[07:59] <genii> carib909: Well, put for instance /etc/fstab   if you want to edit /etc/fstab    or so on. Use common sense
[07:59] <genii> Darkrift411: Weird, we already did this
[08:00] <Darkrift411> yeah
[08:00] <Darkrift411> last check took less then a second
[08:00] <Darkrift411> this one took a few minutes
[08:00] <Darkrift411> and the manual one im doing now is taking longer
[08:01] <carib909> genii my sense is not as common as yours. I don't know what file I need to edit to fix the problem; I am guessing /etc/samba//smb.conf?
[08:01] <Darkrift411> well, the good news is I have a dead laptop (faulty power jack) that i can take the 120g drive from and use
[08:01] <genii> Maybe some errors developed in the meantime
[08:01] <Darkrift411> problem is i have my install perfect :(
[08:02] <Darkrift411> how do i make fsck fix problems if fs is in read only mode?
[08:02] <Darkrift411> live cd?
[08:02] <simi> anyone compiled a custom kernel here?
[08:02] <genii> carib909: If you are trying to configure samba then likely /etc/samba/smb.conf      yes. However edit with caution. In command line after saving changes run: testparm       to see that the file is corrctly formed before restarting the samba process
[08:03] <genii> Darkrift411: No, the fsck is run as root and so doesn't care about ro mounts. It is examining the /dev/name  usually
[08:03] <Darkrift411> i c
[08:03] <Darkrift411> so it CAN fix errors?
[08:04] <genii> Darkrift411: The readonly on mounted partition is so that things are not dynamically changing on the partition being scanned WHILE in process of scanning
[08:04] <Darkrift411> i c
[08:04] <genii> This leads to circular errors, etc
[08:08] <simi> is mysql requird in kubuntu? who uses it? can i stop it to start or remove it?
[08:11] <genii> simi: 1) no    2) many people use it    3) you can stop or start it by it's startup script in /etc/init.d like: sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld stop        4) You can remove it through the package manager
[08:12] <simi> genii: thx, i will stop it starting automaticaly, maybe i will need it sometime
[08:13] <simi> genii: i belived that is posible that some kde apps store data in mysql tables
[08:13] <genii> simi: Yes, there are many applications which can do this
[08:14] <simi> genii:  but not the core application no?
[08:14] <genii> simi: You mean KDE itself?
[08:14] <simi> genii: i seen you here almost all the time, are you working for kubuntu ?
[08:15] <simi> genii: yes i meant kde iteself
[08:16] <genii> simi: No, I am not even a member yet although likely I could be accepted for that if I made an application. I just use ubuntu a lot and so like to assist and socialise a bit while at my regular work, or sometimes from home as now.
[08:16] <simi> genii: what i like in kde are the apps :kate, amarok, adept , , nice application,
[08:16] <genii> simi: As for kde itself using mysql , i have not an idea.
[08:17] <simi> genii: then i will try to see what happens, o you compiled ever a kernel?
[08:18] <genii> simi: When i used other unix-like operating systems I compiled many kernels. But I do not bother much in ubuntu since this makes all the packages unavailable
[08:18] <leba> hi !
[08:18] <genii> !hi | leba
[08:19] <leba> If I want to copy the entirely contents from a windows partition from a free one using linux which command I should be using please ?
[08:19] <simi> genii: when you compiled the kernel did you tried to optimize it and build your drivers into the kernel to not be loaded as modules
[08:20] <genii> simi: Yes, i did those things.
[08:20] <genii> leba: You want to copy your windows files to an empty partition someplace?
[08:20] <jdbart> is there a way to make my laptop moniter not come on when it's closed and i push the multimedia buttons on the front?
[08:20] <leba> genii, yep.
[08:21] <simi> genii: and did your kernel boot faster? i made the same thing but i have problems with the sound card and network and maye other
[08:21] <Darkrift411> so those errors in fsck mean hd failure and not just bad files?
[08:21] <leba> genii, in reality I want to move everything from d: to c: for example.
[08:21] <Darkrift411> meaning unfixable?
[08:22] <genii> leba: There are 2 possible answers depending on what you intend. The C: and D: ideas/metaphors do not exist as such in linux
[08:22] <simi> genii: i do not know what steps, data to collect to find out where is the problem
[08:22] <genii> Darkrift411: My guess is yes impending HD booboo soon
[08:22] <genii> !compile | simi
[08:23] <ubuntu_> .
[08:23] <leba> genii, yeah I know. I want to copy/move *everything* which is in sdb to sdb for example.
[08:23] <genii> leba: In linux you splice devices to a directory name then they are available when you list the contents of that directory. This is called mounting
[08:24] <leba> genii, how do you call a hdd partition on Linux ?
[08:24] <genii> leba: If the destination is same size/larger you could use dd. Other option is to mount both partitions (source and destination) then to do an archival type cp command from one to the other
[08:25] <genii> leba: hdd in linux normally would be 4th IDE device
[08:25] <genii> eg: slave on second IDE cable
[08:26] <ubuntu_> I wanna mount an encrypted filesystem, but after giving the password the system says: IOCTL: LOOP_SET_DEVICE Unknown Argument
[08:26] <genii> leba: dd usage is simplest method, does a bit by bit copy including master boot record and so on.
[08:26] <leba> genii, if I choose to use cp command it would transfer *everything* from one partition to another ?
[08:27] <simi> genii: i will restart now , i will try to extract more info about the problem
[08:27] <ubuntu_> anyone an idea?
[08:27] <genii> leba: Some Windows names are not compatible and also there is a recursing depth of directories so perhaps not all things would get copied
[08:28] <leba> genii, so there is no way to copy the full contents from one windows partition to another using linux ?
[08:28] <elo_> u'll get errors on certain files
[08:28] <elo_> i always do
[08:29] <leba> and how about a *blind* copy...
[08:29] <genii> leba: The dd command then. Syntax is like:  sudo dd if=/dev/inputplace of=/dev/outputplace
[08:29] <leba> something like copy everything
[08:30] <genii> leba: There is nothing like a "blind copy". The closest thing is like cp -dpR source destination
[08:30] <leba> genii, but the dev units have to have the same size or doesn't matter ?
[08:31] <genii> leba: But cp chokes on directory dpths Windows allows as well as non standard characters in filenames and directories like !@#$%^&*   and so on
[08:31] <leba> genii, dd will solve my problem, do you think ?
[08:32] <genii> leba: So log as destination device is larger than source device dd makes an exact copy of original. If the destination is larger, the extra space becomes unpartitioned hd area
[08:32] <genii> leba: You can use dd to copy a HD to a file as well, not just another partition
[08:32] <genii> leba: Then you can loopmount the file as if it was a HD
[08:33] <leba> genii, both source and destination devices have free amouth of space.
[08:33] <genii> leba: With dd it doesnt know about "free space" on source. If sda1 has 100Gb free it doesn't care it copies those 100Gb as well to the destination
[08:34] <genii> It's an *exact* copy
[08:34] <genii> leba: So if source partition is say 50Gb but 40 is unused  you still need 50Gb or larger partition to copy it to, not 10Gb
[08:36] <genii> leba: To use dd to copy to a filename, use like:   sudo dd if=dev/sda1 of=/somedirectory/filename.img      where in this case sda1 gets archived to a file called filename.img   which could be mounted like a hard dive
[08:36] <genii> * hard drive
[08:38] <leba> genii, sorry but I don't think I follow your idea. Why create a .img file ?
[08:38] <leba> genii, what I intent to do is copy windows from one disk partition to another.
[08:38] <genii> leba: Because you don't for instance need to have a partition set aside to devote to the copy of your files
[08:39] <genii> leba: You can restore a file image of a hard drive back to a partition for instance as well
[08:40] <genii> with:   sudo dd if=/home/me/myoldwindrive.img /dev/sda1            for instance
[08:40] <leba> genii, I could use xcopy from windows or robocoy from vista, but I was thinking in to use a neutral system to do that...
[08:40] <genii> leba: I've already shown you the most powerful archiving tool there is
[08:43]  * genii puts on another pot of coffee for everyone
[08:44] <dotancohen> Thanks for the coffee...
[08:44] <genii> dotancohen: Anytime
[08:44] <dotancohen> I'm having a hard time configuring Digikam
[08:44] <dotancohen> From SVN
[08:44] <dotancohen> I get this at the end of cmake:
[08:44] <dotancohen> CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND.
[08:44] <dotancohen> Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files:
[08:44] <dotancohen> QT_QTOPENGL_LIBRARY (ADVANCED)
[08:44] <dotancohen>     linked by target "kipiplugin_slideshow" in directory /home/hardy/digikam-notes/graphics/kipi-plugins/slideshow
[08:44] <dotancohen>     linked by target "kipiplugin_imageviewer" in directory /home/hardy/digikam-notes/graphics/kipi-plugins/imageviewer
[08:44] <dotancohen> -- Configuring done
[08:45] <dotancohen> hardy@hardy-laptop:~/digikam-notes
[08:45] <genii> dotancohen: There is some feature of it the premade package does not supply which is required?
[08:45] <dotancohen> Seems that way
[08:45] <leba> genii, if I intend to download a ubuntu live cd version can I use the desktop one or alternate would be better or none of those ?
[08:45] <dotancohen> I had to compile lots of other stuff too
[08:45] <dotancohen> Like exiv2 libgphoto and others
[08:46] <dotancohen> I did compile kipiplugins, but I cannot get around this error
[08:46] <dotancohen> Any ideas?
[08:46] <dotancohen> Leba, the alternative CD does not have a LiveCD option
[08:46] <dotancohen> So use the Desktop CD
[08:46] <genii> leba: The desktop one boots up into a version of ubuntu which runs from the cdrom and allows a nice graphical way to install. This is good for most uses. If problems are experienced then the tactic is to go then to the alternate which offers drivers for more equipment and can work in most scenarios
[08:47] <carib909>  every time I try to browse smba shares using Dolphin, dolphin opens and then goes away. Cannot browse or see windows shares... Any help for tis?
[08:48] <jdbart> is there a way to make my laptop moniter not come on when it's closed and i push the multimedia buttons on the front?
[08:48] <genii> dotancohen: I would have recommended instead of svn to only add the deb-src repository of Intrepid Ibex into your sources and then download the alredy patched-for-ubuntu source code and try that under Hardy
[08:48] <dotancohen> genii: I am triaging bugs for digikam, so SVN it must be!
[08:49] <genii> jdbart: You want it to display only through the external port when you use the multimedia keys or some such thing?
[08:49] <leba> dotancohen, ok, thank you.
[08:50] <leba> genii, thank you for your support ! ;)
[08:50] <jdbart> genii, no i listen to music on it and i don't want the monitor to cause it to overheat when it's closed and it comes on
[08:50] <Darkrift411> tried to switch my drive out, but this damned laptop has a proprietary hd connector ive never seen
[08:50] <genii> carib909: I hope you are not again using   sudo    to run this program previously
[08:50] <dotancohen> darkrift: What laptop? Are you sure it's not SATA / IDE?
[08:51] <dotancohen> I doubt that you have a proprietary hard drive!
[08:51] <genii> Darkrift411: At heart they are all either SATA or mini IDE laptop kind. But there are 3 main different kinds of connectors they generally put onto the standard drive for their specific laptop internal plugs
[08:52] <genii> Their converters can usually be detached with a small Philips scredriver and re-used on a standard drive
[08:53] <genii> leba: You're welcome, hope to see you soon here assisting ;)
[08:54] <genii> dotancohen: You may get more help in either #kubuntu-devel   or possibly #ubuntu-motu (they generally assist there more with packing however)
[08:54] <genii> *packaging
[09:00] <birnisson> hi, I don't seem to be able to start akregator in kde4... anybody else with this issue?
[09:02] <jdbart> well I'm off, thanks to anyone trying to help me
[09:02] <genii> birnisson: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[09:12] <dotancohen> Thanks, genii, I will try there
[09:13] <Darkrift411> genii im familliar with most laptop drives and the pin converter
[09:13] <Darkrift411> but this one has 3 card edge connections under the adapter
[09:13] <Darkrift411> might be sata
[09:13] <Darkrift411> never seen a laptop sata drive before
[09:13] <genii> Interesting
[09:20] <chackal_sjc> does anyone here compiled qt4.4 ????
[09:23] <genii> chackal_sjc: PErhaps ask in #kubuntu-kde4 or so, qt4 is about kde4 and not kde3 which is here
[09:24] <chackal_sjc> genii: no.. qt4.4 is independent about kde4....
[09:32] <soorya> Come on Let's Chat?
[09:33] <genii> soorya: this is not the channel for idle chat
[09:33] <genii> soorya: Thats what offtopic channels are for
[09:34] <genii> !offtopic
[09:34] <soorya> What you are saying
[09:34] <soorya> Is you real name genii?
[09:35] <genii> No
[09:35] <Tm_T> she is Iineg
[09:36] <soorya> What is your real name?
[09:37] <soorya> Are you Male or Female?
[09:37] <genii> I am gender neutral
[09:37] <Tm_T> soorya: that means, both if you like that way
[09:38] <soorya> Are you nine?
[09:38] <Tm_T> I'm 113 years old
[09:39] <soorya> I am 16 years old hot and sexy girl.
[09:39] <soorya> Do you want me?
[09:40] <genii> Do I have to feed you?
[09:42] <soorya> Yes feed me "Milk" if you are female
[09:42] <genii> hehe
[09:42] <Tm_T> :(
[09:43] <genii> Does anyone actually have any support issues which are not currently being worked on?
[09:43] <soorya> how is that genii
[09:44] <soorya> Do you have breast!!!!!
[09:45]  * genii sips coffee and thinks about approriate responses in such a family oriented channel
[09:46] <soorya> Tell me whether you are a mail or female
[09:46] <genii> soorya: If you persist in sex talk in this channel, an operator will be forced to kick you from here
[09:46] <Schorfi> mail
[09:46] <soorya> Schorfi Shall we Chat
[09:46] <Schorfi> we could email
[09:47] <soorya> What is your mail ID
[09:48] <Tm_T> soorya: behave, this is only for Kubuntu support
[09:49] <soorya> Then where I can go for Sex Talks!!!
[09:49] <Tm_T> soorya: somewhere else
[09:49] <soorya> Aroo want to chat with me
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[09:51]  * genii waits for the next tech support question
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[09:56] <mkquist> HI!
[09:56] <k0opa> hi
[09:57]  * genii hands out coffees
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Does anyone have a link to a list of grub parameters at hand? My google foo is really bad this sunday morning...
[09:58] <mkquist> MilhousePunkRock: what the hell is going on?
[09:58] <genii> MilhousePunkRock: You mean kernel options you could put there or the grub file itself?
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> genii: Like acpi=force and all these... I am trying to make hibernate and/or suspend work on my desktop machine, seems I need to play around with those parameters...
[10:01] <genii> MilhousePunkRock: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> genii: Exactly those  kernel options i was looking for, thanks a lot
[10:02] <genii> MilhousePunkRock: You're welcome. There is also a very good generalised Grub page which i want to add here for completeness in irclog searches http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#How_to_add_Grub_to_your_USB_thumb_drive
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> genii: Now there is a lot of trial and horror ahead of me... Unfortunately I did not find anything on my mainboard and those power savings are always a pain in the behind, I spent weeks messing with it on my laptop...
[10:05] <genii> MilhousePunkRock: Yeah I've had systems like that
[10:06] <leba> genii, hey, do you know a linux command to compair two different partition contents ?
[10:08] <Seven_Away> leba you mean 2 diffrent disk ?
[10:09] <genii> diff unfortunately would likely chew up your swap space til it dies
[10:09] <JohnFlux2> Hey all :)
[10:10] <romunov> i can't write to my disk after a reboot
[10:10] <JohnFlux2> How do I get my Atheros wireless pci card working?
[10:10] <JohnFlux2> i can see the device in lspci, but ifconfig and iwconfig can't see it
[10:10] <JohnFlux2> so I guess the appropritate hasn't been loaded ?
[10:10] <JohnFlux2> it's a AR2413
[10:14] <romunov> oh cmon, this is rediculous
[10:15] <romunov> i can't even open files without them being read only
[10:15] <leba> Seven_Away, no, two different disk partitions, same disk.
[10:15] <romunov> how the hell can developers allow this? i don't have time to tinker with my computer all day :/
[10:15] <leba> genii, so the is no way ?
[10:15] <genii> romunov: Does:   mount    command show / mounted as ro  instead of rw  or so?  Possibly /home as ro ?
[10:17] <genii> leba: I'm searching for one but no immediate way comes to mind. Normally to compare files the app diff  is used. But it was designed in a way that it wats to load all into memory then compare. So if your swap is smaller than the two things to compare it will always fail horribly.
[10:18] <romunov> this is my fstab file partaining the drive i'm trying write to: /dev/sda1 /data vfat auto,fmask=111,umask=000 0 0
[10:18] <leba> genii, yeah, ok. I understand. I will be checking for it as well .
[10:18] <bibstha> questions for kde4 goes here?
[10:19] <romunov> here is the mount output: /dev/sdb1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[10:19] <romunov> /dev/sda1 on /data type vfat (rw,fmask=111,umask=000)
[10:19] <genii> romunov: Remove the part "auto" since it conflicts with the next 2 options given
[10:19] <romunov> these are my two harddrives
[10:20] <romunov> ok
[10:20] <genii> romunov: Also filemask of 111 gives files 666 attributes
[10:21] <romunov> is that good or bad or what? :)
[10:22] <genii> romunov: Should be fine for files which just need read/write and you do not want to be executable
[10:22] <romunov> ok
[10:22] <genii> romunov: May want to add option of uid=1000     if you are first default name created
[10:23] <romunov> so i save the fstab and try to remount?
[10:23] <genii> romunov: Just sudo mount -a    should do
[10:23] <genii> romunov: (after saving fstab)
[10:23] <genii> bibstha: No, #kubuntu-kde4
[10:24] <romunov> ok, this is my new fstab line: /dev/sda1 /data vfat fmask=111,umask=000 0 0,uid=1000
[10:24] <romunov> does order of commands matter?
[10:24] <genii> romunov: No, the two separate 0 must be last things
[10:24] <romunov> ok
[10:24] <genii> Yes it matters
[10:24] <genii> One sec
[10:25] <romunov> /dev/sda1 /data vfat fmask=111,uid=1000,umask=000 0 0
[10:25] <romunov> this is the last version
[10:25] <genii> romunov: This should be better:     /dev/sda1 /data vfat users,fmask=111,umask=000,uid=1000 0 0
[10:25] <romunov> ok
[10:25] <genii> romunov: But yes, you get the idea now. I added users so that regular users could mount it
[10:27] <romunov> romunov@lycanidae:~$ sudo mount -a
[10:27] <romunov> mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[10:28] <romunov> can't umount the drive i'm trying to write on
[10:30] <genii> romunov: Try:  sudo mount -o remount -a      instead
[10:31] <romunov> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:31] <genii> romunov: If you have something using files or such on the affected mount open right now , close it first since that means system will see it as in use and refuse to un-mount it
[10:32] <romunov> i closed all the applications that i think were using the data on the mounted drive
[10:32] <genii> romunov: "specify filesystem type" indicates wrong type of directive like vfat   or else missing one. Please pastebin  the fstab for scrutiny
[10:32] <genii> !pastebin
[10:33] <romunov> http://pastebin.com/d6ee1571a
[10:34] <genii> reading
[10:35] <genii> Hmm. All looks good there, oddly
[10:36] <romunov> lemme try to open the location as root and writing on it
[10:36] <genii> romunov: Root will always be able to
[10:37] <romunov> can't write as root either
[10:37] <genii> Hmm.
[10:38] <genii> romunov: Is one of these drives a usb or otherwise removeable?
[10:38] <romunov> yes, i'm trying to copy from a stick
[10:38] <romunov> genii: but i get blocked if i try to make a directory on the HD
[10:39] <romunov> so i doubt this is causing the problem
[10:39] <romunov> but the two drives that you mention are both (s)ata drives
[10:40] <romunov> maybe the drive's full
[10:40] <genii> I doubt drive is full
[10:40] <romunov> that would be emberrasing
[10:41] <romunov> great, now i cna't delete the fless as well
[10:41] <romunov> files*
[10:41] <genii> romunov: Try prhaps like /dev/sda1	/data	vfat	iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000  0    0
[10:41] <genii> bah
[10:42] <genii> 1 sec
[10:42] <genii> romunov: /dev/sda1   /data   vfat   iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000   0   0
[10:42] <genii> rather. The <tab> key doesn't translate well here
[10:43] <a1202> hello
[10:43] <genii> !hi
[10:44] <romunov> genii: any ideas how can i remount the hd?
[10:45] <genii> romunov: Try:   sudo mount -o remount,rw /data
[10:46]  * genii hands Jucato a coffee
[10:47] <Jucato> genii: does coffee mix well with coke?
[10:47] <romunov> genii: great, it's working
[10:47] <romunov> i just don't know if it's the fstab changes or the mount command :)
[10:48] <genii> romunov: Good
[10:48]  * Agent_bob passes genii coffee
[10:48] <genii> Agent_bob: Yay!
[10:48] <genii> Jucato: Probably not!
[10:48] <Jucato> too bad. :(
[10:49] <genii> romunov: Try then:   sudo mount -o remount,ro /data     to make readonly force. Then just:   sudo mount -o remount /data      without the rw specified and try then
[10:49]  * genii grabs Jucato's coffee and starts drinking coffee with both mugs now
[10:49]  * Jucato continues chugging his coke
[10:50] <Agent_bob> coke ?    oh  coca cola  ?
[10:51] <Jucato> yesh
[10:51] <Agent_bob> origenally a cocain drink,  later reduced to cafine
[10:51] <Agent_bob> or was that  *upgraded to* ?
[10:52] <genii> I'm definitely addicted to caffeine. Although not in the fizzy carbonated pop way. But I'm sure they snag a lot that way
[10:53] <Agent_bob> "yesh"  is that a unix shell ?  :)
[10:53] <Agent_bob> if not it should be
[10:53] <squid0> hi. I'm trying to connect to a wifi network in ubuntu. I can connect fine in windows xp, but no joy in ubuntu:( I have logs and output from iwconfig and ifconfig. should I paste them somewhere?
[10:53] <Agent_bob> yesh == ye shell
[10:54] <Agent_bob> !wifi | squid0 have you been here
[10:55] <squid0> Agent_bob: thanks, I'll have a look. I've used wifi in linux perfectly fine on other networks before... can't understand why it's problematic here. I'll give it a look
[10:55] <Nix3r>  i got struck by a virus while runing windows. and all my video / audio files were deleted. then i re partitioned all drives. any good utility to recover my data?
[10:55] <Agent_bob> !wpa | maybe
[10:55] <genii> Gotta love the !factoid | someone Add a specific comment here before the factoid appears                           thing
[10:56] <Agent_bob> genii ?
[10:56] <Jucato> !helpersnack | genii, because you are ever so helpful
[10:56] <Jucato> bah
[10:56]  * genii munches and sips !coffee
[10:57] <Agent_bob> !opsnack
[10:57] <genii> Agent_bob ?
[10:57] <genii> ooooo nice
[10:57] <genii> Nix3r: After a repartition it's pretty hopeless
[10:58]  * Agent_bob wonders if it was a virus or "drm" that deleted the media files
[10:59] <genii> Same result
[10:59] <Agent_bob> yesh
[11:00] <Agent_bob> Nix3r if you weren't using any disk/fs encription it's probably possable.  assuming you only rebuilt the partition table.   if you reinstalled OS's then not likely
[11:01] <Nix3r> i heard there are softwares that can recover from formated partitions too..
[11:01] <Nix3r> i just del the partition table
[11:01] <genii> Nix3r: Did you just repartition or also format them afterwards as well?
[11:02] <Nix3r> just made one partition and installed linux on it. other is not made available yet........
[11:02] <Nix3r> Agent_bob genii ^
[11:02] <Agent_bob> Nix3r not sure it won't restore the virus (if it was one) but testdisk can restore the partitions.
[11:02] <Nix3r> Agent_bob i need a data recovery utitily
[11:03] <Agent_bob> Nix3r /me points @ google -->
[11:03] <genii> Can also just use fdisk    to change type to 6 for ntfs or so then write. Then it would be accessible again for ntfs-3g or so
[11:03] <Agent_bob> i don't know any off hand.
[11:03] <Nix3r> ok
[11:04] <genii> !info autopsy
[11:04] <genii> !info sleuthkit
[11:04] <Agent_bob> ext3grep for ext3   *it's new and beta*
[11:04] <genii> hehe
[11:05] <Agent_bob> but it does show promice.  i hope that someone develops it into a full robust data recovery tool for ext# fs's
[11:07]  * genii waits for "xfsgrep"
[11:07] <Agent_bob> one thing that it despretly needs is a switch to read an alternate superblock.  it uses the main superblock and if the fs is corrupt that is generally not the one you want.
[11:08] <Nix3r> ok
[11:08] <genii> Agent_bob: Program it in :)
[11:08] <Nix3r> the partitions were fat32 btw
[11:08] <Agent_bob> genii i do not C++
[11:09] <Jucato> C?
[11:09] <Agent_bob> Nix3r heh.  restore the partitions and use dos's undelete
[11:09] <Agent_bob> Jucato yeah it's writen in C
[11:09] <Agent_bob> or C++
[11:10] <Agent_bob> or what ever   i really didn't pay much attention  cause i don't  C
[11:10]  * Agent_bob is blind and doesn't V
[11:10] <Agent_bob> C
[11:10] <Jucato> :P
[11:10] <Nix3r> k
[11:10] <Agent_bob> but he does typo
[11:10] <Nix3r> Agent_bob thats a windows app?
[11:10] <Agent_bob> Nix3r it's a ms dos app
[11:11] <genii> If fat32 and not ntfs then partition type of b and not 6 would be in order
[11:11] <Nix3r> k
[11:11] <Nix3r> i hope its free
[11:11] <Agent_bob> Nix3r used to be provided with all dos installations   back in the day
[11:12] <Nix3r> i just need a powerful tool. let me try
[11:12] <shreyas> whois
[11:12] <shreyas> hello anybody there ?
[11:12] <Agent_bob> up to and including 7  iirc      which win9x ran on.
[11:12] <shreyas> hello
[11:12] <Agent_bob> shreyas
[11:13] <shreyas> hello agent bob
[11:13] <shreyas> yup
[11:13] <shreyas> hello agent bob
[11:13] <shreyas> u there ?
[11:13] <Agent_bob> Nix3r also  you might ask in ##windows  someone in there may know a good tool
[11:13] <shreyas> hello anybody there please reply
[11:13] <genii> shreyas: We all see you fine. Is there some question regarding kubuntu you wanted to ask?
[11:13] <Agent_bob> "no, i'm not there."
[11:14] <shreyas> thanks for replying
[11:14] <shreyas> well
[11:14] <shreyas> wat i wanted to ask about kubuntu ut
[11:14] <shreyas> is
[11:14] <genii> !enter
[11:14] <shreyas> in kubuntu there is no firewall
[11:14]  * Agent_bob nudges ubotu in that dirrection too late
[11:14] <shreyas> how can we install firewall in kubuntu or enable it
[11:14] <shreyas> ?
[11:15] <Agent_bob> !guarddog
[11:15] <shreyas> ok thank u
[11:15] <shreyas> and one more thing
[11:15] <Nix3r> Agent_bob i have test disk. can you guide a bit how to use it
[11:15] <Agent_bob> and six more lines
[11:16] <Agent_bob> Nix3r ummm   man testdisk   ?
[11:16] <shreyas> is there a tool for converting media formats in kubuntu coz all players dont support mp3 n avi
[11:16] <Nix3r> Agent_bob iam just using testdisk. i dont see the other name
[11:16] <genii> ffmpeg and mencoder mostly. But try to install the codecs for those other formats from medibuntu
[11:17] <genii> !codecs | shreyas
[11:17] <Agent_bob> lol  i just noticed that the testdisk programmer wrote it for M$  the switches are  /blah
[11:17] <shreyas> medibuntu u mean from where adobe reader comes from right ?
[11:17] <Agent_bob> Nix3r you know about man pages ?
[11:17] <genii> shreyas: Sort of
[11:17] <shreyas> ok
[11:17] <shreyas> got it
[11:18] <Nix3r> Agent_bob ya..
[11:18] <shreyas> and one more thing abou kubuntu
[11:18] <shreyas> when my system boots up
[11:18] <shreyas> d compiz effects crash of slows down the gui
[11:18] <Agent_bob> Nix3r   man testdisk     and while you run it, be sure to read all it's saying to you.
[11:19] <shreyas> when i kill the process it works fine i mean all windows move without drag
[11:19] <Nix3r> ok
[11:19] <shreyas> why is it so? do i need to install new patches r remove effects ?
[11:19] <Nix3r> Agent_bob thanks!
[11:19] <Agent_bob> Nix3r welcome.
[11:19] <genii> I'm thinkin !enter ain't gettin through
[11:20] <shreyas> genii : pardon ? shud i repeat ?
[11:20] <genii> !compiz | shreyas
[11:20] <Agent_bob> genii i'm agreeing with you.       some things don't soke in very fast...
[11:20] <shreyas> shud i remove compiz and install compiz fusion?
[11:20] <genii> shreyas: Please don't make one statement over many lines.
[11:21] <shreyas> ok sorry for inconvenience
[11:21] <genii> shreyas: We do not support Compiz in this channel but the informatin above can diect you to the channel which has assistance for that
[11:22] <shreyas> @ genii : ok thanks a lot for all those rest of the solutions
[11:22] <Agent_bob> Nix3r one thing i found about testdisk that i liked was that it does seem to follow the "safty first" approach,  it won't change anything without asking you first.
[11:22] <shreyas> hope to see ya soon
[11:22] <genii> shreyas: You're welcome and best luck with Compiz issues
[11:22] <shreyas> @genii : bye thanks again :-)
[11:23] <shreyas> ya will find out somehow .... :-)
[11:23] <Nix3r> Agent_bob k
[11:24]  * Agent_bob admits that testdisk is totally useless on his "partitionless" system though...   ;/
[11:25] <genii> hence the fdisk solution I proposed earlier to restore partition type
[11:27] <corpsicle> so um
[11:28] <corpsicle> amarok gives me errors when i try and start it
[11:28] <Agent_bob> genii not his  mine.
[11:28] <Agent_bob> genii testdisk is more likely to work for him than fdisk   but neither would help me.
[11:29] <genii> generalised errors or something a bit more specific?
[11:29] <genii> corpsicle:  generalised errors or something a bit more specific?
[11:29] <enaut> corpsicle: you may start it in console and copy its output to a pasteservice
[11:30] <corpsicle> yea
[11:30] <corpsicle> ok
[11:30] <corpsicle> i got something about sockets when kubuntu booted
[11:30] <Agent_bob> Jucato do you happen to know what part of "kde" k3b uses?
[11:30] <corpsicle> and there are leftover amarok processes
[11:30] <corpsicle> and <defunkt> ruby processes
[11:30] <corpsicle> which i think have to do with amarok
[11:30] <corpsicle> and when i try to start it from commandline now it just doesnt do anything =P
[11:31] <genii> corpsicle: Use   kdesu amarok
[11:33] <corpsicle> is that some sudo thing ?
[11:33] <corpsicle> because it started just fine now, but without my collection
[11:33] <enaut> yes it is some sudo... now we know that you canfigs are broken
[11:34] <enaut> *configs
[11:34] <corpsicle> actually no, it works fine now =)
[11:34] <corpsicle> starting amarok normally and then quitting it seems to have removed all the little shitty processes
[11:34] <enaut> ah ok
[11:34] <enaut> even better
[11:35] <engineer> nice
[11:35] <squid0> hey, I'm having trouble connecting to a wifi network, which I can connect to fine under windows xp. Here are some logs: http://paste.linuxassist.net/35 I would appreciate it if someone could shed some light on this for me!
[11:37] <Agent_bob> anyone know any way to keep udev from mounting a tmpfs on /dev   ?
[11:39] <aljun> hi
[11:40] <floown> hello
[11:41] <floown> how to decompress some tar.gz in a directory? find *.tar.gz -name -exec tar -xzvf {} \; doesn't go
[11:42] <floown> find /. -name *.tar.gz
[11:43] <Agent_bob> -iname
[11:44] <Agent_bob> why will my k3b not work outside of kde ?
[11:44] <Agent_bob> it runs but doesn't burn anything
[11:51] <Nix3r> Agent_bob testdisk didnt recovered
[11:52] <Nix3r> Agent_bob iam going for windows apps. i think linux dont have so many for that purpose
[11:53] <Agent_bob> Nix3r i think you are probably right.   data recovery of free software is not nearly as important as data recovery of over priced software.
[11:53] <Nix3r> hm
[11:53] <Nix3r> you use windows. and app you like?
[11:53] <Agent_bob> i don't do windows  no.
[11:56] <Nix3r> ok
[11:56] <Nix3r> thx
[12:00] <engineer> i couldn't disagree more
[12:02] <Werzi2001> hi@ll
[12:03] <Werzi2001> i have a usb mouse but the middle button doesnt work... any ideas why?
[12:03] <engineer> ye
[12:04] <engineer> emulate 3 buttons might be on
[12:07] <Werzi2001> where can i find this?
[12:09] <engineer> grep emulate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:10] <Werzi2001> nothing :(
[12:10] <engineer> sorry
[12:11] <engineer> grep Emulate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:11] <Werzi2001> nothing too :(
[12:11] <Werzi2001> i am sorry but i have to go... thanks for the try
[12:11] <Werzi2001> bye
[12:11] <engineer> marine@bodyguard:~$ grep Emulate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:11] <engineer> Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
[12:11] <Werzi2001> k ill try to insert that
[12:12] <benecrom> hi
[12:12] <engineer> hi benecrom what's up
[12:12] <engineer> Werzi2001 inside the mouse section
[12:12] <Werzi2001> k :)
[12:12] <Werzi2001> ill give it a try
[12:12] <Werzi2001> thanks :)
[12:23] <Agent_bob> well i did a work around and got things cooking again for now...
[12:24] <engineer> for now..
[12:24] <engineer> it will come back to get you
[12:28] <Agent_bob> engineer heh  that's the software game isn't it.
[12:29] <nonewmsgs> agent_bob aren't you that _2 guy
[12:30] <Agent_bob> yeah
[12:30] <Agent_bob> base 2    :)
[12:31] <chackal_sjc> man
[12:31] <chackal_sjc> how to install svn???
[12:31] <Agent_bob> man man
[12:31] <Agent_bob> !svn
[12:32] <chackal_sjc> come on
[12:32] <chackal_sjc> no package??
[12:32] <Agent_bob> !find svn
[12:32] <Agent_bob> !find ^svn
[12:33]  * Agent_bob wonders what the other was
[12:33] <chackal_sjc> okay
[12:33] <chackal_sjc> wich one i pick??
[12:33] <lil-romeo> hey ya all
[12:34] <Agent_bob> chackal_sjc you could search your repos      apt-cache search ^svn
[12:34] <lil-romeo> hey how to make a shortcut from a game in a menu i have to open it with admin so otherwise it cant write :D
[12:34] <lil-romeo> normaly i open it in console but i want shortcut:D
[12:34] <Agent_bob> lil-romeo not the right way to do that.    give the game permission in the aproprate dir    don't run it as root
[12:35] <engineer> lil-romeo sudo command
[12:35] <snirp> Hi there: installing kubuntu-restricted-packages failed on sun-java6-bin and now i cannot use adept anymore :-(
[12:35] <Agent_bob> running games as root is about as dumb as irc'ing as root
[12:35] <lil-romeo> what
[12:35] <chackal_sjc> Agent_bob: Subversion
[12:35] <lil-romeo> i give examle
[12:35] <chackal_sjc> the package
[12:35] <engineer> sudo doom3 to run as root
[12:36] <lil-romeo> ok
[12:36] <lil-romeo> hmm i try
[12:36] <lil-romeo> thanks friends
[12:36] <snirp> it says: another process is using the packaging system
[12:36] <snirp> but i do not see any instance of adept running!
[12:36] <Agent_bob> lil-romeo find where it's having issues "writing"  and  chmod that dir  or shown it
[12:37] <snirp> any way to resolve this, please
[12:37] <lil-romeo> well cant write hunkusage
[12:37] <lil-romeo> or smtng
[12:37] <lil-romeo> in command i point it to et
[12:37] <snirp> ?
[12:37] <lil-romeo> the game but.... it launches but cant connect server
[12:37] <lil-romeo> i need to run it in admin so i dont know run in terminal is a box to
[12:38] <engineer> edit the item
[12:38] <engineer> behind the command
[12:38] <engineer> write sudo
[12:38] <lil-romeo> example '/usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et' sudo
[12:38] <lil-romeo> ?
[12:39] <engineer> no
[12:39] <engineer> sudo /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et
[12:40] <bAgent_bo> engineer   do you really think that helping him run a game as root that is probably connecting to a remove server is a good idea ?     i breaks all kinds of security wisdoms ...
[12:40] <engineer> i don't think anything
[12:40] <engineer> that's what he wanted
[12:40] <engineer> he probably should move the game into his home dir
[12:42] <lil-romeo> hmm
[12:42] <lil-romeo> hmm 1 try
[12:42] <lil-romeo> than i place it in my home
[12:43] <lil-romeo> sudo /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et not works boys
[12:44] <skip> I've got a question about KXDocker if anyone feels eligable to field this one
[12:46] <lil-romeo> how to login as admin?
[12:46] <lil-romeo> in file systm with dolphin manager
[12:46] <skip> right click actions on mine
[12:47] <lil-romeo> nice
[12:47] <skip> I killed a program with ctrl-alt-esc (on the system tray icon) Its no longer loading into systray when i load the program, i cant for the life of me find it
[12:50] <nonewmsgs> skip have you tried starting it with konsole
[12:52] <skip> yes
[12:53] <lil-romeo> well forget making a shortcut then not works for me :P
[12:53] <lil-romeo> im such a noob
[12:54] <skip> drag your icon somewhere romeo
[12:54] <skip> when you release it it will ask you if you want to link it (shortcut)
[12:54] <lil-romeo> skip, listen normal wise i have to do cd/location
[12:54] <lil-romeo> then sudo sh et
[12:54] <lil-romeo> how i make that in a shortcut
[13:16] <frybye> hi - what to do when an appl. looses its icon and just shows a "?-" icon .. how to restore the correct icon...
[13:16] <frybye> it has happend to this appl = Konversation - irc client... - using kde4.1
[13:51] <safouane> hello
[14:07] <pushax> Anyone know of a program to copy websites and their deeper links?
[14:08] <GreySim> pushax: I think the Scrapbook extension for Firefox will do it, if you use that. I know there are definitely commandline tools too, but I haven't used any in forever.
[14:08] <pushax> GreySim: ok will lok.  thanks
[14:15] <pushax> GreySim: works.  thanks again
[14:17] <serzholino> pushax: wget can do this from command line
[14:17] <pushax> serzholino: ok.  I do prefer gfx interface
[14:19] <pushax> serzholino: theres a cli program called harvestman that's a spider/crawler too
[14:20] <serzholino> ok
[14:20] <serzholino> will know
[14:24] <hatman_> Hi all !
[14:24] <hatman_> someone know where kcontrol fetch its monitor & display resolution ? It seems it is distrib specific and not directly coming from xorg.conf (I got this info from #kde) ?
[14:29] <simi> hi , a GUI tool for repartitioning the harddrive? i want to add an other linux partition
[14:29] <chi_> sudo aptitude search gparted
[14:29] <chi_> gparted is a gui for resizing and create partitions on ur harddrives
[14:30] <chi_> instead of adding new partitions, u may also add just new kernels...
[14:30] <simi> do you know how many partition can you have on a hdd?
[14:30] <chi_> of casue
[14:30] <simi> i am reading but i am not understend
[14:30] <chi_> its 4  primary
[14:31] <chi_> and primary are the ones you can boot from
[14:31] <chi_> normally, you should think about partitions before settingh up the system
[14:31] <simi> i have 4 partitions but i want to try othed distro, and i want to keep kubuntu
[14:32] <tibbar> how do I know what os im running
[14:32] <chi_> be careful with deleting the content of the very first partition if you are running NTloader
[14:32] <tibbar> can I type a command in konsole?
[14:32] <chi_> tibbar :) well you are in a remote connection?
[14:32] <tibbar> because I installed both x86 and amd64, don't know which one im in
[14:33] <chi_> unmae
[14:33] <chi_> uname -a
[14:33] <tibbar> x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:33] <tibbar> does this mean I have 64
[14:33] <tibbar> or 85
[14:34] <tibbar> or x86
[14:34] <hatman_> Any idea about where Kcontrol -> "Monitor & display" fetch its resolution ?? xorg, xml file, etc. ?
[14:36] <pag> tibbar, that's 64 bit system, if that's what you're asking
[14:36] <simi> hatman_: tell me  when you find out,
[14:37] <hatman_> simi: ? what do you mean ?
[14:38] <tibbar> thanks pag :O
[14:39] <simi> hatman_:  i searched that answer here too and i do not find out the answer, google too
[14:40] <hatman_> simi: are you having trouble with dual monitor too ?
[14:40] <chi_> simi, you can extend a bootloader to a partition, and then you can load up to 64 different OSes ... but if you even dont know how many partitions are bootable, this might be very hard to do ...
[14:41] <simi> hatman_: no i wanted to modify something to the video driver
[14:41] <hatman_> simi: you could directly edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that purpose...
[14:41] <simi> hatman_:  i seen today tthis https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DisplayConfigGTK maybe is releated with your problems and you will find tmore info
[14:44] <simi> chi_:   i have an ideea , to resize the partition with windows(give space from the  partition for data) and the data partition to format it as ext3, but i must see if ths can be done, if are one near other
[14:45] <TimS> Could someone help me with forwarding my xbox 360 to the internet via my linux px
[14:45] <TimS> I have internet coming through wlan0 and thats configured through KNetworkManager, and my 360 is plugged in via ethernet to eth0
[14:46] <TimS> I would be very happy if there was a gui way, but I could do the CLI if thats the only possible way
[14:49] <fredthemonkey1> hello. i am trying to run a program but it says:  error while loading shared libraries: libclanApp-0.8.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory . I know that this file is in /usr/local/lib (whereis says that). how can i make the program find it?
[14:51] <simi> it seams o can edit the partitions with gparted, them appear do be locked
[14:58] <chi_> simi:  are you raunning gparted as root?
[15:00] <gmorphis> new to linux here (well fairly new). I upgraded to 8.04 and getting a DCOP error when I run dcopserver.. google searched and havent found much help
[15:01] <vidar> I've installed tor and privoxy and started tor by running /etc/init.d/tor start - shouldn't Tork then be able to contact Tor on my machine?
[15:01] <simi> chi_: yes with sudo
[15:01] <gmorphis> menu items fail to work, click on Konsole on desktop and I get "KLauncher could not be reached via DCOP
[15:04] <simi> chi_:  i have an extended partition with my bigest partition and the linux one, so i can add one more in this extended partition no?
[15:06] <gmorphis> ran kdeinit, dcopserver is running
[15:08] <gmorphis> kcontrol loads, just can't launch menu items or desktop items.. wtf?
[15:09] <chi_> and you restarted allready?
[15:12] <gmorphis> yeah, after the update this morning it restarted fine (I initially saw the error when I clicked on FireFox) but it worked initially just gave some DCOP error but FirFox loaded
[15:13] <gmorphis> I didnt think anything of it until I went to open eclipse and found that no menu items worked
[15:14] <gmorphis> then I clicked on the Konsole desktop item and got the KLaucher error..
[15:14] <gmorphis> I've ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, everything looks god
[15:15] <gmorphis> I get a dcop error when I run dcopserver, something about .ICEauthority, I rm'd that file, still get error
[15:15] <TimS> !info airsnort
[15:16] <gmorphis> I'm going to reboot again.. <crosses finger> hopefully it'll go away
[15:25] <gmorphis> looks like rebooting has solved the issue or at least helped
[15:26] <viniciuspt_> Expensive friends, I have a problem in inicialization of the  Compiz fusion. I have kubuntu version 8.06
[15:26] <viniciuspt_> The icons of the systray they are in taskbar
[15:26] <viniciuspt_> he problem is that if the Compiz is initiated before the icons, them is in taskbar
[15:28] <viniciuspt_> the problem
[15:28] <viniciuspt_> Somebody assist could me
[15:32] <reese> hi! I have internet gprs connection on a cell phone, through a vodafone access point. I was wondering: how could I use this internet connection on a computer?
[15:39] <zibi> hello
[15:39] <zibi> i have a question
[15:39] <chi_> state em all ;D
[15:39] <zibi> how can I install kde 4.1 rc 1 on kuuntu 8.04
[15:40] <zibi> ?
[15:40] <chi_> i am not sure what rc1  means
[15:40] <zibi> realese candition
[15:41] <d_o_r_i_a_n> hi
[15:41] <leba> I tryed to set a disk label in one of my disk partition using linux and it removed all partitions from my hdd. But from windows xp I still can see the partitions and files, I wonder how to fix this ?
[15:41] <chi_> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ==> that is not rc1?
[15:41] <d_o_r_i_a_n> i have a movie dvd on my hdd and i want it to be an .iso image; with which software can i accomplish that ?
[15:42] <d_o_r_i_a_n> the files are like VTS_VOB..
[15:43] <minsu0806> #korea
[15:44] <Lynoure> Is there any software for measuring one's normal typing speed? E.g. software that would either count all keyboard presses or hook to OO.o, or an editor?
[15:46] <ubunturos> Lynoure: there's one called Ktouch, which could be helpful for one to determine his/her typing speed
[15:47] <Lynoure> KTouch only measures your speed at typing the scrolling text it gives. Not normal typing situation.
[15:47] <Lynoure> So not what I'm looking for, though it's handy for learning to touchtype :)
[16:36] <aurios> hi
[16:36] <aurios> Please i need help i'm noob
[16:36] <enaut> hi
[16:37] <aurios> How to read a video file CPS with Kubuntu ?? It can make video file and can't read them ? lol
[16:38] <aurios> CPS files seems to be PostScript files
[16:38] <scripted> hi.. can someone tell me what i have to restart ufw on every startup?
[16:41] <SSJ_GZ> aurios: http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2008/07/kwin-desktop-recorder-cps-usable-format.html
[16:43] <aurios> SSJ_GZ: unknown host :/
[16:44] <SSJ_GZ> aurios: Works fine here.
[16:44] <aurios> 404 error :/
[16:44] <aurios> SSJ_GZ: 404 error plz check again :/
[16:45] <simi> chi_: hi
[16:45] <SSJ_GZ> aurios: Are you clicking on the URL or typing it in manually?
[16:46] <simi> chi_:  i restarted, the names of the partitions had changed and i must edit my fstab, i am ucky  because my system boot up normaly, my data partition is not availeble
[16:46] <aurios> SSJ_GZ: i'm clicking, and after you said me it works fine, i have copy/pasted the full URL to Firefox
[16:46] <aurios> and i got error 404
[16:47] <simi> how can i list detais abot my sda partitions so i can identify them to edit fstab
[16:47] <simi> ?
[16:47] <enaut> aurios: works fine for me too
[16:47] <SSJ_GZ> aurios: I have no idea what's going wrong, then :)
[16:48] <simi> sudo fdisk  -l
[16:48] <aurios> SSJ_GZ:  i've got troubles to access Gmail.com i have 404 error too, i think its routing from FR to US... :-(
[16:48] <chi_> ah
[16:48] <chi_> ls -l ... mom
[16:48] <aurios> SSJ_GZ: do you have another mirror ?
[16:49] <chi_> $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-
[16:49] <chi_> by-id/   by-path/ by-uuid/
[16:49] <SSJ_GZ> aurios: Oh dear :/ No, sorry.
[16:50] <TimS> SSJ_GZ: Does KDE4 log? Every time I try to load a KDE4 session, it gets just past the splash screen, then the session crashes.
[16:52] <SSJ_GZ> TimS: Some information can be found in ~/.xsession-errors
[16:53] <TimS> SSJ_GZ: That dir does not exist
[16:53] <SSJ_GZ> TimS: It's a file, not a dir :)
[16:53] <TimS> Oh!
[16:53] <john_> howdy all
[16:56] <TimS> SSJ_GZ: I don't understand most of this, but these look like the explanation:
[16:56] <TimS> XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":1.0"      after 4630 requests (4625 known processed) with 293 events remaining.
[16:56] <TimS> kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed
[16:57] <SSJ_GZ> TimS: Yep, looks like.
[16:57] <TimS> Any ideas as to what they mean?
[16:58] <SSJ_GZ> TimS: No idea, I'm afraid :/ Probably best to file a bug report, with the full log, and see what the devs make of it.
[16:58] <TimS> Okay.
[16:58] <TimS> Thanks for your help :D
[16:59] <SSJ_GZ> TimS: np - sorry I couldn't have been of more use.
[17:00] <TimS> haha, no need to apologise :p
[17:18] <Tarski2> hi, my /var/lib/apt/extended_states and /var/lib/dpkg/avilable are mashed. ls -l prints out question marks in every column and when i try to rm or touch them i get "cannot access available: Input/output error"
[17:22] <TimS> In konqueror, is there any way to show the size of a folder in the size collumn?
[17:23] <Jucato> TimS: you mean the size of the contents of the folder right? afaik, nope
[17:23] <TimS> Yeah :(
[17:23] <TimS> That is annoying
[17:23] <TimS> Is it possible on the command line?
[17:24] <Jucato> TimS: righ-click the folder -> Properties
[17:24] <Jucato> oh CLI.. hm... with ls? not sure
[17:24] <TimS> Yeah, but I want to compare the sizes of folders easily, ah never mind, Ill experiment with ls
[17:24] <White_Pelican> is there any way to play colecovision rom files in kubuntu?
[17:41] <White_Pelican> is anyone going to answer my question?
[17:41] <Jucato> White_Pelican: if someone knew and saw your question earlier, they will
[17:42] <White_Pelican> is there any way to play colecovision rom files in kubuntu?
[17:42] <Tarski2> try posting on the forums
[17:44] <Jucato> White_Pelican: "colecovision emulator linux" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569630
[17:46] <White_Pelican> ty Jucato
[17:46] <White_Pelican> guess there's some building in my future :)
[17:54] <scripted> hey guys does anyone know why i would have to reenable ufw on startup?
[18:02] <GS3User> hi, i have a question
[18:03] <GS3User> whenever i put my mouse over an application in the taskbar, a get a tooltip with its name and the desktop that it's on, how do i shut that off?
[18:05] <minsu0806> #korea
[18:06] <Jucato> GS3User: KDE 3? right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> I forgot which page, but there's an option called "Enable mouseover effects".
[18:07] <GS3User> jucato: i'm on kde 4 unfortunately
[18:07]  * Jucato wonders why he doesn't have that...
[18:08] <minsu0806> when boot from Linux , Internet OK., but booting from Window xp service pack2 cause Internet False
[18:08] <Jucato> GS3User: you might want to ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[18:08] <GS3User> Jucato: will do
[18:08] <Jucato> minsu0806: ask in ##windows maybe
[18:08] <minsu0806> oh ~thanks u^^
[18:10] <matisse> hi
[18:12] <mgdm> Riddell: ping
[18:12] <matisse> has anyone an idea why k3b is running, but no window is showing up ? (k3b is really running, no error in bash)
[18:16] <corpsicle> uh, how do i move widgets in the bar at the bottom ?
[18:16] <corpsicle> when i add something it ends up on the far right
[18:17] <corpsicle> and i cant move it
[18:17] <GS3User> kde4?
[18:18] <GS3User> you might try #kubuntu-kde4
[18:19] <corpsicle> oh
[18:24] <Riddell> mgdm: hi
[18:24] <mgdm> Riddell: Hi, it's OK, I had a daft question so I bothered seaLne instead :)
[18:25] <vtisza> hi
[18:26] <vtisza> can someone help me? I just installed ubuntu and I hear no sounds
[18:28] <scripted> hey guys does anyone know why i would have to reenable ufw on startup?
[18:29] <Taggnostr> !skype
[18:49] <White_Pelican> is there a way to change the start (K) button in kubuntu?
[18:50] <bazhang> White_Pelican, sure; get themes
[18:50] <bazhang> !themes
[18:50] <White_Pelican> ok I will look into it
[18:50] <White_Pelican> thanks
[19:00] <minsu0806> #korea
[19:00] <enaut> minsu0806: stopp spaming!
[19:03] <Nyad> hi, I'm trying to compile qemu and I need gcc 3.x but I have gcc 4.  how do I get gcc 3  -dev
[19:05] <enaut> it is in the repos i think
[19:05] <Nyad> is it possible for me to have gcc4 and 3 installed
[19:06] <francesco> !it
[19:06] <enaut> guess so because there are no antidependencies
[19:06] <enaut> but I never used it
[19:07] <Nyad> ok, thanks
[19:07] <Nyad> I'm gonna test it
[19:08] <Nyad> will ubuntu work on a pentium 2?
[19:09] <enaut> depends on what you define as work :)
[19:09] <enaut> but forget about kde4
[19:10] <Nyad> as long as it will boot
[19:10] <AMDpenguin> is kubuntu going to theme kde 4.1?
[19:10] <enaut> Nyad: terminal should be no proplem and some graphical ui shoul work to but rather not the complex ones
[19:11] <Nyad> enaut, perfect. thanks
[19:17] <Nyad> if I press control+z while some program is doing something, I think it sends it to the background, but it says stopped in the window. is it really stopping?
[19:26] <Filip> Nyad: yes, it's suspended. Type fg to bting it back
[19:27] <enaut> Nyad: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/misc/27281-how-detach-running-process.html
[19:28] <Nyad> thanks
[19:37] <carib909> Adept manager says some other application is using the packaging system database (nothing running) and attempts to fix it returns this. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30996/  Can anyone help?
[19:38] <Taggnostr> the bot should have a fix but I don't know the command
[19:38] <Taggnostr> !adept
[19:38] <Taggnostr> !adept fix
[19:38] <Taggnostr> maybe this one
[19:41] <carib909> The solution the bot gave returns an error "unknown option -vki"
[19:41] <kossing> how to install my cam on kubuntu;;;
[19:42] <carib909> Also dpkg: status database area is locked by another process. How can I fix this?
[19:43] <enaut> close the process
[19:43] <carib909> no process running
[19:43] <bmk789> is there a way i can set a directory for konqueror to not load any previews for files?
[19:43] <PhilRod> carib909: the bot's solution is two commands - the first (presumably) is to find out what processes are using the package list, and the second relies on that having happened successfully
[19:44] <PhilRod> carib909: so the first command is failing (with "unknown option"), which means the second doesn't work
[19:44] <Zopiac> how do i get Compiz Fusion working?
[19:44] <PhilRod> so, the upshot is, we should go look at "man fuser" to see if we can work out what the correct command is
[19:45] <enaut> carib909: simple thing could be restarting... if possible
[19:46] <carib909> Thanks guys. The first command worked
[19:46] <PhilRod> carib909: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[19:46] <carib909> Thanks guys. The first command worked
[19:46] <PhilRod> oh, ok
[19:46] <carib909> PhilRod 8.04
[19:47] <carib909> I am having the worst time with Samba and firefox. Cannot install addons to Firefox and Samba shares just don't work?????
[19:48] <Zopiac> samba doesnt work for me either
[19:59] <carib909> When starting Firefox3 I get an Assertion error. Anyone know what's causing this? How to fix? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30999/
[20:02] <PhilRod> so, knetworkmanager correctly configures my wireless network when it starts. But, I save and restore my kde session by default. This means that my apps get started before knetworkmanager has set up the network
[20:03] <PhilRod> can I get NetworkManager to connect to the network at system startup time instead?
[20:07] <Darkrift411> anyone here familliar with laptop drives?
[20:08] <ubunturos> !ask | Darkrift411
[20:09] <Darkrift411> http://www.getpartsonline.com/120gbhd-pav-dv6000-sata.html <--- on this page it shows a drive enclosure and an adapter. the adapter looks like the one i need, just wondering if that looks like it fits a standard sata laptop drive
[20:09] <genii> Darkrift411: Still trying to find out what those strange 3 edge connectors are for?
[20:09] <Darkrift411> my hd died last night and i need to get a new one and get the hell off of windows before it go nuts again
[20:09] <Darkrift411> yes genii
[20:09] <Darkrift411> i found a pic of the adapter in teh link above
[20:09] <genii> looking
[20:10] <Darkrift411> i need to find a pic of a standard sata, but they keep showing me general laptop drive pics and not of the connections
[20:12] <genii> Darkrift411: Yeah it would be good if they showed the reverse side of that connector there
[20:12] <Darkrift411> found it :) http://techreport.com/articles.x/9378
[20:12] <Darkrift411> first time ive had a sata drive in a laptop
[20:12] <michael__> jpñas
[20:13] <Darkrift411> good news is they are fairly cheap
[20:13] <Darkrift411> $50 and up
[20:13] <genii> Yup
[20:13] <Darkrift411> bad news is that would still hurt the wallet for a couple more weeks
[20:13] <genii> Darkrift411: I just got a regular 3.5" one yesterday of 1Tb for $170
[20:13] <Darkrift411> what sucks is my dead laptop has a brand new 100g pata drive in it
[20:14] <Darkrift411> my OTHER dead laptop lol
[20:14] <genii> Darkrift411: Too bad when you use those sata to pata converters they don't fit in the laptop bays :/
[20:14] <Darkrift411> and the problem begins at HOW THE HELL do i get the info off the drive to my new one
[20:14] <Darkrift411> i guess i could boot into recovery mode and mount my external drive
[20:15] <Darkrift411> copy everything over and then back again later
[20:16] <jussi01> Darkrift411: that should work
[20:17] <Darkrift411> now.. once i install kubuntu back on the new drive, is there a way to import all my old settings etc?
[20:17] <Darkrift411> i dont even remember all the stuff i had installed
[20:17] <genii> !clone
[20:17] <Darkrift411> nice
[20:18] <genii> The clone thing will replicate your packages. If you copy /home into same username on new box all else should stay same as well
[20:18] <Darkrift411> except that part of my home folder is corrupted :(
[20:18] <Darkrift411> something kde related anyways
[20:19] <genii> Well at least the previous packages will get reinstalled. Wallpaper and other preferences aren't horrible to customise again one time
[20:20] <Ashex> Does anyone else have issues using sftp (fish://) in konquerer?
[20:21] <Ashex> I'm using key authentication with a passphrase, and it refuses to accept the passphrase
[20:21] <Darkrift411> true
[20:34] <tomasko> hi
[20:34] <tomasko> is konqueror not compiled with hal support?
[20:49] <jdbart> is there a way to make my front multimedia buttons not turn on my monitor on my laptop when it's closed
[21:15] <sourcemaker> are ther usenets for linux?
[21:18] <PhilTrunk> sourcemaker: yes
[21:19] <sourcemaker> PhilTrunk: there is a nice feature in kontact for usenet.... but I haven't been used usenet... :-)
[21:19] <PhilTrunk> it's pretty much moribund now, although I quite like reading mailing lists via gmane
[21:40] <icelab> hi everybody
[21:41] <icelab> i can't see you tube on konqueror, what i have to do?
[21:42] <icelab> instead whit firefox i able to see
[21:46] <sourcemaker> !miro
[21:47] <sourcemaker> !help
[21:47] <icelab> ubottu how are you?
[21:48] <sourcemaker> !search miro
[21:48] <icelab> flash plug in
[21:48] <sourcemaker> !info search miro
[21:48] <sourcemaker> !info miro
[21:49] <sourcemaker> cool... is there a alternative application for miro in kde???
[21:49] <icelab> ubottu you know anything abaut konqueror plugin?
[21:49] <sourcemaker> join kde
[21:50] <icelab> :-))))
[21:50] <sourcemaker> !flash |icelab
[21:50] <sourcemaker> !gnash |icelab
[21:50] <icelab> ok
[21:51] <icelab> but i have installed restricte extras and flash plugin that work on moziila
[21:51] <icelab> they don't work on konqueror?
[21:51] <icelab> it is possible?
[21:52] <sourcemaker> icelab: yes
[21:52] <icelab> ok therefore whot i have to do?
[21:55] <sourcemaker> icelab: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and restart firefox
[21:57] <icelab> sorry but i wanna see it on konqueror
[21:58] <sourcemaker> icelab: restart konqueror
[21:58] <sourcemaker> icelab: or scan for plugins in preferences
[22:00] <icelab> ok
[22:03] <icelab> no good news
[22:04] <icelab> howewer thanks a lot sourcemaker
[22:04] <sourcemaker> icelab: it's working fine for me
[22:04] <sourcemaker> :-)
[22:05] <icelab> now i'm am tired i'll try tomorrow
[22:11] <lamer> Guten abend
[22:13] <l3x> it is scary quiet here :)
[22:17] <l3x> is anyone alive???
[22:18] <mefisto__> I'm alive
[22:18] <GS3User> yes
[22:18] <l3x> why is it so quiet here?
[22:18] <apachelogger> l3x: everyone partying I guess ;-)
[22:18] <l3x> wow
[22:19] <l3x> i am lonely and bored, so i said to myself, hey, u have konversation
[22:20] <NotWired> i'm using kubuntu gutsy... is there an easy way to upgrade to firefox 3.0? the only version i see in the repos is a development version
[22:21] <jaakkome> Is there an easyish way to mount a remote samba connection as a directory?
[22:22] <jaakkome> Like I can connect to smb://foo on dolphin, but I'd like to mount it to /media/samba-foo or something
[22:22] <Valros> hey
[22:22] <Valros> what are the differences between installing kubuntu or installing ubuntu then kde 4
[22:24] <naman> 8-)
[22:25] <l3x> Valros: there is no difference
[22:25] <l3x> Valros: but why?
[22:25] <apachelogger> NotWired: I don't think so
[22:25] <naman> someone speak in spanish?
[22:25] <l3x> they use the same repos, the only difference is the desktop environment and programs...
[22:25] <NotWired> i was afraid of that apachelogger
[22:25] <apachelogger> NotWired: I would suggest to upgrade, but maybe you can find some unoffcial repsitory with 3.0
[22:25] <apachelogger> I doubt that though
[22:26] <apachelogger> jaakkome: you can use the disk management tool in systemsettings
[22:26] <NotWired> i'm afraid i don't have enough free disk space to upgrade
[22:26] <Valros> just wondering
[22:26] <Valros> putting it on a laptop
[22:26] <NotWired> i've got 2.6GB free
[22:27] <apachelogger> depending on how much software you got installed, this might be just enough ;-)
[22:27] <NotWired> apachelogger: i'm not sure i can risk it :) i guess i'll just use the mozilla files directly
[22:27] <NotWired> cheers mate
[22:43] <Moonstorm> !dvd
[23:05] <l3x> is compiz improved in hardy??? or is it still just "working" like in earlier releases???
[23:05] <l3x> it was never stable, always buggy...
[23:09] <besitzer> salutare all
[23:09] <besitzer> ma ajuta si pe mine cineva
[23:09] <besitzer> va rog
[23:10] <besitzer> lumeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[23:11] <besitzer> aloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[23:11] <besitzer> lumeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[23:11] <besitzer> ma juta si pe mine cineva
[23:11] <besitzer> va rog
[23:15] <juantuahk> hello
[23:15] <besitzer> al
[23:15] <l3x> besitzer:  speak english
[23:15] <besitzer> mah esti roman
[23:16] <juantuahk> what is this?
[23:16] <besitzer> rumenis
[23:16] <l3x> italisn, spanish??
[23:20] <besitzer> lummeeeeeeeeeeee ce mai romani
[23:20] <besitzer> nu vb
[23:23] <besitzer> ce beleA
[23:35] <steven> Hello all. I have the stable release of Kubuntu with KDE 3.5. What do I need to install to upgrade to 4.0? I don't want to overwrite 3.5, but I just want to have 4.0 as an option.
[23:38] <bascule> !kde4
[23:38] <bascule> kubuntu-kde4 will have more info for you
[23:46] <cyberponix> has anyone elses thumbdrives and or dvd roms stopped working out of the blue?
[23:47] <steven> bascule, thank you.
[23:47] <bascule> np
[23:48] <GS3User> question: kubuntu 8.04, kde3, no compiz fusion... my screen resolution resets itself to 800x600 after every reboot (as opposed to the 1280x1024 that i set it to using nvidia-settings)
[23:48] <GS3User> actually, this might 640x480, i'm not really sure
[23:50] <cyberponix> has anyone elses thumbdrives and or dvd roms stopped working out of the blue?
[23:51] <cadoo> GS3User: are you hitting Save to X Configuration File after changing setting?
[23:51] <GS3User> cyberponix: just plugged mine in, it still works
[23:51] <GS3User> cadoo: yes, and i'm running it using sudo as well
[23:52] <not-alone> POSIX Message Queues (POSIX_MQUEUE) is this option need for the desktop system?
[23:52] <mefisto__> GS3User: could you pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[23:53] <zabbadapp> GS3User: can you change res in system settings -> monitor & display ?
[23:53] <GS3User> zabbadapp: no, i have to use nvidia-settings
[23:54] <GS3User> mefisto: my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m5af70e25
[23:55] <zabbadapp> try to workaround the problem by using "nvidia-settings -l" to load your config on start up
[23:55] <GS3User> how do i do that?
[23:56] <memo_> please watch my emo: http://emogochi.eu/index.php?page=show&id=11347&lang=en thx:D
[23:56] <zabbadapp> actually, i don't know the proper place to put shellscripts to autostart in kubuntu ...
[23:57] <hellhound> i just installed kde4.1 and i accidentally removed my bottom panel.  i tried adding a new panel but it always appears on the top of the desktop.  how can i move this to the bottom?
[23:58] <GS3User> hellhound: i think if you right click on it and choose configure (or something like that), you can choose its location
[23:58] <hellhound> zabbadapp: if i understand you correctly you can place scripts in the <home>/.kde/Autostart folder
[23:58] <zabbadapp> hey, now i remember it when you mention it! :-)
[23:59] <hellhound> GS3User: ahhh thank you... it was right click and go to Panel settings than hold-click and drag ont he panelsettings bar.... thank you
[23:59] <GS3User> so now i do what?
[23:59] <GS3User> hellhound: np