[00:45] <MythbuntuGuest89> where do i modify it?
[00:46] <MythbuntuGuest89> if I goto setup--> general it is the ip address of the backend.
[00:47] <MythbuntuGuest89> Laga>is there another place?
[00:47] <laga> there are two ip addresses listed there
[00:47] <laga> what are these?
[00:49] <MythbuntuGuest89> I only see the one in general.  Hostname: 192.168.0.156
[00:50] <MythbuntuGuest89> which is the backend
[00:51] <laga> there should be another one below
[00:52] <MythbuntuGuest89> all on this page is ; ping test server port;database name; usre; password
[00:54] <MythbuntuGuest89> laga, am i in the right place?
[00:56] <laga> probably not ;) i can't look right now because i shut down my master backend
[00:57] <laga> but your problem really is a FAQ, it'd be surprised if google didn't turn up something
[00:57] <laga> "mythtv remote frontend" might be a good starting point for google
[00:58] <MythbuntuGuest89> Ill see what turns up
[00:59] <MythbuntuGuest89> is it located in the setup or in the control center?
[01:00] <laga> setup usually, but you can also set it in the control centre. the problem is that mythtv also supports auto configuration over upnp which can mess things up ;)
[01:01] <laga> it's necessary to configure your master backend correctly and to have the correct information for the mysql server on the remote frontend
[01:06] <MythbuntuGuest89> in general setup on the server the is 2 ipaddress both the same as above
[01:15] <jalex> Where may I get 8.04 instead of 8.04.1?
[01:16] <laga> um. nowhere, probably. why would you want to do that?
[01:17] <jalex> 8.04.1 install doesn't really work for me.  I tried multiple times but it has weird issues.
[01:18] <jalex> I might just put ubuntu 8.04 and then add mythbuntu on there...that should work.
[01:18] <laga> well, 8.04 shouldn't be much better - these point releases shouldn't introduce regressions
[01:18] <laga> why don't you report these issues in the bug tracker? http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[01:55] <massi> please guys i need help
[01:56] <hads> !ask
[01:56] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[01:57] <jalex> The 8.04.1 alt iso seems to have some inconsistencies with the cdrom identity and apt-get.
[01:57] <massi> I run mythtv-setup for the first time but I get error about database
[01:57] <jalex> xubuntu installed ok...I'll just add mythbuntu after the fact.
[01:58] <jalex> massi: I've only setup mythtv form the source, so far.  you are using the mythbuntu packages?
[01:58] <massi> jalex: yes
[01:59] <jalex> and you put in the mysql info ?   mysql pass is in /etc/mysql.txt or somewhere like that.
[01:59] <jalex> (in case you forgot from the install screen
[01:59] <massi> I ve found 2 passw in mysql.txt
[01:59] <massi> wich ones?
[01:59] <jalex> maybe one is the username?
[02:00] <massi> 1 pass is mythtv and tthe other one is h38jid or something
[02:00] <massi> username is mythtv as well
[02:01] <massi> so the correct one is "DBPassword" value?
[02:02] <jalex> try them in the terminal
[02:02] <jalex> mysql -u mythtv -p
[02:02] <jalex> and enter what you think the pass is
[02:02] <massi> i ve got ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[02:04] <massi> i ve tried without password and I ve got "mysql>" prompt
[02:05] <jalex> hah, that's funny.
[02:05] <jalex> don't enter a mysql pass in mythtv-setup then
[02:06] <massi> i've just tried but it does not change nothig - i ve got error "cannot find (ping) database host on the network"
[02:08] <jalex> crud, what do you know.  my hard drive is going seriously bad...well, that accounts for the install issues.
[03:11] <NTolerance_> just had a HDD die on my old Gutsy mythtv setup
[03:11] <NTolerance_> restoring went beautifully
[03:11] <NTolerance_> just copied the recording directory over and restored the mysql database
[05:55] <chronographer> My via 12000 nehemiah locks up sometimes when playing videos. It locks up so that I can't restart X (ctrl alt backspace) nor switch to v.term (ctrl alt F1) anyone know what may be happening?
[05:59] <hads> Possibly heat
[05:59] <hads> (or many other things)
[06:04] <levander> Alright, I've been trying to get off this Mythbuntu developers email list for months.  How the hell do I get off?
[06:05] <hads> Look at the source of the email, it more than likely has unsubscribe instructions.
[06:05] <chronographer> I don't think its heat... but it hasn't happened for a little while... I have removed my network card, will see if that fixs it.
[06:05] <levander> I've followed those instructions about 10 times now.
[06:11] <rhpot1991> levander: the one about the team meeting?
[06:11] <levander> yeah
[06:24] <rhpot1991> levander: you should be removed
[06:24] <levander> I hope so.  They've said that the last 3 times I've come in here fussing.
[06:24] <rhpot1991> you may still get an email tomorrow, but you shouldn't get them for any new meetings
[14:19] <mAzGa> .
[16:46] <TheBlasphemer> How can I change the subtitles in mplayer, or if that's not possible, switch to VLC as the standard video player?
[16:55] <zabbadapp> TheBlasphemer: in your lircrc file, put (in a begin-end block like the other keys): config = sub_select and config = sub_select -1 for two different remote buttons, then you can switch between available subs back and forth
[16:56] <olterman> anyone here know anything about mythbuntu 8.04 and Hauppauge dvb nova t 500
[16:57] <olterman> I have installed a fresh install and can scan channels but cannot get mythtv to start up (ie show any tv )
[16:57] <zabbadapp> olterman: i use mythbuntu 8.04 (upgraded from 7.10) and a T-500
[16:57] <olterman> zabbadapp: cool
[16:57] <olterman> zabbadapp: what did you have to do to get an image etc
[16:58] <zabbadapp> do you know it works outside of myth?
[16:58] <olterman> well not really
[16:58] <olterman> new card
[16:58] <olterman> and new install
[16:58] <olterman> never had a tv card before
[16:58] <olterman> how can i test it
[16:59] <olterman> it seems to load fine in /var/log/messages
[16:59] <olterman> and I can get channel names from it that is as far as I get
[16:59] <olterman> but I dont know what to test really
[17:00] <zabbadapp> do you have the following line in /etc/modprobe.d/options: "options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1"
[17:00] <olterman> yes
[17:01] <olterman> ill dubbel check that I think I put that in another file
[17:01] <olterman> hang on
[17:01] <olterman> yes i do
[17:02] <zabbadapp> and the firmware has loaded? (dmesg | grep -i dvb)
[17:02] <olterman> yes
[17:02] <olterman> it starts cold loads firmware states that it found it warm etc
[17:04] <zabbadapp> "sudo apt-get install dvb-utils" ... stop mythbackend (or if you checked the option that myth should release the device if not in use) and then "scan scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/<country-code>-<geographic-location>"
[17:04] <zabbadapp> (oops, two scan .. only one of course)
[17:04] <zabbadapp> your closest transmitter should be in that dvb-t-directory
[17:05] <olterman> hmm ok then I need to install my modem on that machine
[17:05] <olterman> Ill try that and then come back
[17:05] <zabbadapp> no net? :-)
[17:06] <olterman> not on the mythbox
[17:06] <zabbadapp> ok .. you don't have to if you can get a channels.conf file some other way
[17:06] <olterman> isnt that what I get when I scan for channels ?
[17:07] <zabbadapp> yes, but then you can put that in ~/.mplayer/channels.conf and run "mplayer dvb://<device-unit>@<channel-name> " ... i.e. mplayer dvb://1@TV3
[17:09] <zabbadapp> you card has 0 and 1 available (but mplayer can't play video from both dvb-t devices at once .. an mplayer limit ... mythtv can of course do that) ... you maybe can get some sensible error output this way
[17:10] <olterman> what does the internals of channel.conf look like
[17:10] <zabbadapp> (btw: i never get any sound when I play tv with mplayer on the dvb-device like that,  but i get picture .. good enough)
[17:11] <zabbadapp> each line per channel looks like this: SVT2:682000000:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_2_3:FEC_1_2:QAM_64:TRANSMISSION_MODE_8K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_8:HIERARCHY_NONE:1029:1028:5020
[17:11] <olterman> you in sweden?
[17:11] <olterman> kul
[17:11] <zabbadapp> yes .. jaha
[17:12] <olterman> jag är Svensk i exil (London)
[17:13] <zabbadapp> ojoj, många freeview-kanaler där!! ("many freeview channels over there" -- for the non swedes)
[17:19] <c3rb3rus5> can anyone explain to me the differences in playback profiles?
[17:20] <zabbadapp> olterman: do you get absolutely no picture/sound at all, or do you get green-screen or black, with sound? ... some mpeg-decoding libraries won't work for me ... there are a few to select from in the myth-settings ... i've had moments with no picture because the video-acc layer seemed to be out of order .. but after i changed to libmpeg (or whatever it was) i've never had that problem
[17:24] <zabbadapp> c3rb3rus5: a good deinterlacer takes more cpu, and a hw-accelerated decoder (xvmc) takes little cpu .. good for old 'puters. If you don't have enough power to use the best deinterlacer for HD-content you can set up rules for when to use a specific profile ... never used them since I don't have HD and my machine handle the load
[17:24] <c3rb3rus5> hrm
[17:24] <c3rb3rus5> well
[17:24] <c3rb3rus5> i am using this for HD and SD
[17:25] <c3rb3rus5> and i'm using an onboard geforece 6150
[17:25] <zabbadapp> what cpu?
[17:25] <c3rb3rus5> x2 3200+, i think
[17:27] <c3rb3rus5> make that an x2 3600+
[17:27] <c3rb3rus5> in any case on the CPU+ profile, there seems to be a slight audio sync problem
[17:28] <c3rb3rus5> on high def stuff at least
[17:28] <zabbadapp> yadiff x2 and the other ??? x2 deinterlacers produce a  progressive 50/60 fps (double rate) picture from the interlaced information, looks good for sports and such .. they take quite a lot of cpu ... maybe that + decoding HD is too much for your cpu? ... is the audio ok with lesser profiles?
[17:29] <olterman_> ok intenet on the mythbuntu machine
[17:29] <olterman_> could you give me that line to do with dvb-utils again
[17:30] <olterman_> zabbadapp: ???
[17:30] <zabbadapp> scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/se-Vannas > channels.txt
[17:30] <c3rb3rus5> i had hd running correctly w/ xvmc before i updated / reinstalled in the box
[17:31] <zabbadapp> well, is the cpu+ profile using xvmc? i don't think so .. the name suggests it's a heavy profile and xvmc is easy on the cpu (but can't be deinterlaced/postprocessed)
[17:32] <zabbadapp> olterman_: apt-get install dvb-utils ?
[17:32] <olterman_> done it
[17:32] <olterman_> resource busy
[17:32] <olterman_> need to kill myth I guess
[17:32] <zabbadapp> mythbacknd is locking it
[17:32] <c3rb3rus5> really? xvmc can't be deinterlaced?  thought that they had limited options, but still some
[17:33] <zabbadapp> olterman_: (yes, and there is an option as i said to make myth release the dev when not recording anything)
[17:35] <zabbadapp> c3rb3rus5: that's what i've read, but since i can't run xvmc anyway (only xv) i haven't tested. Anyway, simply xv (and probably xvmc) suck because it doesn't support more than 8bit color for overlays ontop of the video layer .. so the OSD becomes greyscale, if i remember correctly
[17:36] <laga> 8 bit is grayscale? huh
[17:36] <c3rb3rus5> yea, i think that i had it enabled for hd and disabled for sd
[17:36] <c3rb3rus5> hmm
[17:36] <zabbadapp> no, but it is the easiest way to convert a 24-bit osd-graphics into something that looks ok-ish in 256 colors
[17:37] <zabbadapp> the myth-people never bothered to implement fancy dithering to make it look better, because 256 colors will still look bad :-)
[17:37] <laga> ah
[17:38] <laga> xvmc can be deinterlaced, AFAIK
[17:38] <c3rb3rus5> the slim profile seems to work ok...
[17:38] <c3rb3rus5> the options are bob and one field
[17:38] <olterman_> zabbadapp: ok that works perfectly
[17:38] <laga> yeah, the slim profile seems to work for most people.. it should be the default IMHO
[17:38] <olterman_> still no go in myth
[17:38] <olterman_> mplayer rocks with sound
[17:39] <c3rb3rus5> so what is the diff between xvideo and xvmc?
[17:39] <zabbadapp> c3rb3rus5: bob and one-field are not really deinterlacers .. bob is ok if you have a CRT-tv, because it is exactly how the picture is displayed (alternating fields) ... one-field is just skipping odd fields and gives you half the resolution of the lines.
[17:40] <c3rb3rus5> i see
[17:41] <olterman_> zabbadapp: got any advice now ta
[17:41] <zabbadapp> c3rb3rus5: xvmc has Motion Compensation ... a process implemented in hardware in the graphics card to extrapolate the motion vectors of the mpeg-stream ...
[17:41] <olterman_> zabbadapp: that I know the card works
[17:42] <zabbadapp> olterman_: great ... hmm, what happens when you start live-tv?
[17:42] <olterman_> I get blacksvcreen and then back to menu
[17:43] <zabbadapp> if you start a recording? are you tail -f :ing the mythbackend-log?
[17:44] <olterman_> I vcant start a recording I
[17:44] <zabbadapp> do you have correct permissions so myth can store the stream to disk?
[17:44] <olterman_> zabbadapp: hmm
[17:44] <olterman_> my directoruy is in my home catalogue
[17:44] <olterman_> that is
[17:44] <olterman_> my user has permissions ... does myth run as me otr mythtv
[17:45] <zabbadapp> as user mythtv
[17:45] <olterman_> hmm
[17:45] <olterman_> ok
[17:46] <olterman_> ill try that then
[17:50] <olterman_> ok it works now but how do I
[17:50] <olterman_> change channels
[17:51] <zabbadapp> arrow up/down
[17:52] <zabbadapp> you should probably change a setting so that browsing channels doesn't change them until you hit enter (i don't remember if that is the default) ... channelchange is a bit on the slow side .. but with a good epg-source you can browse the channels and see what is on (whil still watching whats currently on) .. and the hit enter to finally actually change .. works great
[17:53] <olterman_> I can only ewatch `
[17:53] <olterman_> I cant change at all
[17:54] <olterman_> I get teh view of all the channels and the shows
[17:54] <olterman_> I can miove up and down
[17:54] <olterman_> but when I hit enter I get a menu of do not record etc
[17:55] <olterman_> any suggestions _
[17:57] <zabbadapp> then you're in the epg? or?... i meant that arrorw down will show in the osd what the next channel is currently showing .. and if that is what you want, enter changes to the next channel
[17:59] <zabbadapp> there is a key that changes to the channel the cursor is on, in the epg too .. but i don't remember ... (i have all keys a use mapped on the remote .. and that's not one of them)
[18:21] <c3rb3rus5> do the myth-reboot and myth-halt scripts work?
[18:27] <c3rb3rus5> nm... works when there is no ssh session connected
[19:26] <miv2> Hi. Anybody ever experienced that using a remote control (in my case the one coming with a Hauppauge PVR-350) is kind of slow in Mythbuntu 8.04.1? Slow meaning I'm having quite a long delay after pressing the button until something happens. In TV mode, screen freezes for a second or so. When I use the PS/2 keyboard, everything is just fine ...
[19:32] <superm1> just the guide miv2 ?
[19:32] <superm1> or general usage in menus etc too?
[19:32] <miv2> General use
[19:33] <superm1> well so as to rule out mythtv bugs, i'd say go and give irw a shot
[19:33] <miv2> in the menus it's not a big issue, but it is a bit of annoying if changing the volume freezes the movie
[19:33] <superm1> and see if its reading delayed on those too
[19:33] <miv2> irw workes in "realtime"
[19:33] <miv2> as does MPlayer
[19:33] <darthanubis> I'd like to know how to get mythzmserver to run upon boot like it used to before .21?
[19:34] <superm1> miv2, then in your ~/.mythtv/lircrc, do you have repeat/delay in use at all?
[19:34] <superm1> darthanubis, does it need user information?
[19:34] <superm1> or is it just a daemon app
[19:35] <miv2> superm1: Most buttons don't have repeat or delay, some do. I copied the configuration from my old debian mythtv box, but I also tested the supplied lircrc from mythbuntu, there is not difference in behaviour
[19:35] <darthanubis> superm1, just a daemon app
[19:35] <darthanubis> no user info
[19:36] <miv2> the funny thing is also, that the CPU is not used while the system freezes ...
[19:36] <darthanubis> I have to manually run mythzmserver from CLI
[19:36] <superm1> darthanubis, then maybe just /etc/rc.local
[19:36] <superm1> miv2, well that's crazyness then :)
[19:36] <darthanubis> I thought of that
[19:36] <darthanubis> but it really is not a script?
[19:37] <darthanubis> its a binary
[19:37] <darthanubis> the web says to have zoneminder start it from zm.conf. But I have yet to figure that one out?
[19:38] <darthanubis> I just am wondering why do I have to do this now, when before just installing mythzmserver just ran
[19:38] <darthanubis> zoneminder is set up and working
[19:38] <darthanubis> there is a bug report about it
[19:39] <darthanubis> does not look like it will ever get resolved though?
[19:39] <superm1> well we are very far behind on bugs yes, but hopefully someday resolved :)
[19:39] <superm1> you can launch binaries from /etc/rc.local though
[19:39] <superm1> so that would work
[19:42] <darthanubis> thx
[19:42] <darthanubis> I have to copy or symlink the bin to the script dir, then run update.rc or something?
[19:43] <darthanubis> I don't manually play with scripts at all
[19:47] <superm1> no just edit /etc/rc.local
[19:48] <darthanubis> wow
[19:48] <darthanubis> never knew this was here
[19:54] <superm1> :)
[20:01] <olterman_> zabbadapp: hwhat steps tdo I need to take to get the remote working ?
[20:14] <darthanubis> remember when mythtv-setup would stop the backend when it was started, and not just warn that the backend was still running?
[20:15] <darthanubis> What happened to that functionality?
[20:15] <darthanubis> Seems like some auto-functionailty I'm missing
[20:15] <darthanubis> Liek when viewing a recording, then exiting, it used to ask me whether or not I wanted to bookmark/delete/or just leave?
[20:16] <darthanubis> What happened to that?
[20:16] <rhpot1991_laptop> I believe thats an option within mythtv itself
[20:16] <rhpot1991_laptop> crawl the setup menu and see if you can find it
[20:16] <darthanubis> I keep looking
[20:17] <darthanubis> I'm pretty sure I have overlooked it
[20:17] <darthanubis> but I must be going blind?
[20:17] <darthanubis> setup>tv sttings.playback?
[20:17] <darthanubis> excuse my wireless KB
[20:30] <olterman_> anyone know how to get the remote to work on hauppauge nova t 500
[20:53] <olterman> need help with hauppauge 500 nova t getting the roemote to work
[20:56] <olterman>  Starting remote control daemon(s) : LIRC                              [fail]
[20:56] <olterman>  have followed every howto there is
[20:57] <olterman> dont know where to get better feedback to troubleshoot
[21:01] <olterman> any help with a tremote _ ?
[21:01] <olterman> zabbadapp: e du daer ?
[21:27] <olterman> anyone here ?
[22:44] <MythbuntuGuest73> Hi there! Would anybody give me a hand trying to get a front-end running? I've got a realiable backend running
[22:46] <MythbuntuGuest73> I followed the instructions of mythbuntu's page turn ubuntu into mythbuntu, when I type in the terminal mythfrontend I get no application opened.
[22:58] <TheBlasphemer> I'm wondering if there is any way to easily watch videos from an external HDD from the MythFrontend UI...
[23:08] <MythbuntuGuest73> .
[23:11] <biohazard> ok, I messed up the database on my Mythbuntu 8.40 box
[23:11] <biohazard> I have  a backend/fronend box, and a box currenly running the live CD
[23:11] <biohazard> I could not get it to connect
[23:12] <biohazard> the live cd to the backend server
[23:12] <biohazard> I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database, as recomended, and afterwords, neither is able to access the database
[23:17] <MythbuntuGuest73> .
[23:34] <MythbuntuGuest73> Hi there! Would anybody give me a hand trying to get a front-end running? I've got a realiable backend running
[23:54] <MythbuntuGuest73> .
[23:59] <bmathis> whatcha need help with?
[23:59] <bmathis> its better to just ask your question then askin if anyones here to give you help