[00:01] PriceChild: mind pinging me in here? [00:02] Flannel: yes [00:02] bother. [00:04] PriceChild: mind doing it again? [00:05] Flannel: still yes [00:06] Alright, thanks. [01:34] * elkbuntu reads the scrollback and takes the espresso pot away from myrtti [01:41] elkbuntu, lol [01:41] shes an addict [02:02] nickrud: interesting [02:02] ok, who's the ubottu expert here [02:03] nickrud: We've had this problem in the past, it was fixed [02:03] its becaue your parenthetial included "is" [02:03] !install | cxo (not sure if pxe [02:03] cxo (not sure if pxe: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [02:03] hmmm [02:04] yeah, ok that's very lucky [02:04] Flannel figured it was the is. I thought there was a rollback command for ubottu, but not needed I guess [02:04] oops [02:04] nickrud: http://jussi01.com/web/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=added%20DESC&page=0 [02:04] there it is [02:05] definately a bug [02:05] ubottu forget install | cxo (not sure if [02:05] I know nothing about install | cxo (not sure if yet, nickrud [02:05] ok, this will be fun [02:06] !search cxo [02:06] Found: install | cxo (not sure if pxe [02:06] !-install | cxo (not sure if pxe [02:06] cxo (not sure if pxe: install aliases: nocdinstall - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 00:40:32 - last edited by nixternal on 2008-03-20 01:28:56 [02:06] its an alias? [02:07] !forget install | cxo (not sure if pxe [02:07] I'll forget that, Flannel [02:07] !search cxo [02:07] Found: install | cxo (not sure if pxe* [02:07] deleted! [02:07] !search install [02:07] Found: kdeincludes, xen, newton, proxies, firefox, font, blender, usb, installdeb, picard [02:07] hum, wonder why it liked !forget but not the ubottu forget. [02:07] but, its definately a bug with the parser (which means its a regression) [02:08] nickrud: you missed the pxe [02:08] Flannel ah, that would be it [02:09] * nalioth hands nickrud a pxe [02:10] probably wouldn't be helpful to file a bug against ubotu [02:10] nickrud: the issue is because someone commmented out line 355, with 356 in its place. [02:11] this is... the second edit like that that I've seen in my few days of looking at that plugin [02:11] I'll take your word for it [02:11] Mmm, that was nuked when they added the forwarding to here regarding factoids. [02:21] bazhang: That wasn't even french. odd. [02:21] Flannel, yeah, weird. maybe creole :) [02:21] Some regional one I guess, yeah. [02:33] !forget channels | ubuntoo, here [02:33] I'll forget that, nickrud [02:34] !forget ask | windowsuser (that [02:34] I'll forget that, nickrud [02:34] !bunnies | ? [02:34] ?: bunnies is z0mg! fluffy bunnies! Guaranteed to bring out the tweenage girl in everyone: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Widget+Background:+Fluffy+Bunny+?content=74480 [02:48] !away > gardar`afk [02:48] gardar`afk, please see my private message [03:06] I'm innocent! [03:11] o.O [03:11] mmmmmmmkay [03:12] * Flannel takes partial responsibility for that. [03:12] When you run virgin ubottu code, and someone tries to add a silly factoid and it tells them its being forwarded here, they get embarassed. [03:13] some of the factoids we see here are worth being embarassed about [03:18] in the olden days when anyone could add a factoid, some of them were k-line worthy [03:21] yep [04:55] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:55] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:55] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:55] Nice. Only one person snagged. [05:03] not sure why some peoples kids are manic like this [05:03] the guys like clockwork [05:03] or girl [05:12] so many server questions. [06:19] cre8torx [06:25] I'm always amazed. My machine always Works for Me™ [06:27] is the fglrx just bad news? [06:28] no, always works for me. What chip is he running? and has he used envy? [06:28] radeon 9600 [06:28] he used the hardware drivers he said [06:29] I'd look at his log file, but what's the issue? I've been helping a newbie in pm recently [06:30] bad_hacker blank/black screen and freezing, though would think the freezing is unrelated [07:15] jussi01, are you around? [07:27] elkbuntu: in and out, whats up? [07:33] jussi01, i'll PM [07:44] no need to run envyng on kernel updates [07:45] I read there was work on that, it was completed? [07:45] I should probably subscribe to changes. [07:46] yes; and going to be in linux-restricted-modules for ibex iirc [07:47] I spend enough time in mail, what's one more? [07:47] haha [07:49] bazhang: NVIDIA and ATI drivers have been moved out of lrm for Intrepid. [07:49] wgrant, aha thanks [07:49] turns out bsims issue was unrelated to envyng [07:51] wgrant, into linux-ewwyuck-modules? [07:51] elkbuntu: Into their own packages using DKMS. [07:52] you're using an acronym i do not recognise... [07:52] !dkms [07:52] Sorry, I don't know anything about dkms [07:52] Dynamic Kernel Module Support [07:52] Bah. [07:52] ah [07:52] linux-here-there-be-dragons-modules [07:52] I always forget what it stands for. Everybody just knows it by DKMS. [07:52] !dkms is Dynamic Kernel Module Support [07:52] I'll remember that, elkbuntu [07:53] !dkms [07:53] dkms is Dynamic Kernel Module Support [07:54] !scope [07:54] We don't need factoids for *everything* ;) [07:54] https://launchpad.net/dkms [07:55] you should add that, bazhang [07:55] or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Tech/DKMS [08:00] !no, dkms is DKMS is Dynamic Kernel Module Support. See https://edge.launchpad.net/dkms for more. [08:00] I'll remember that jussi01 [08:00] !dkms [08:00] DKMS is Dynamic Kernel Module Support. See https://edge.launchpad.net/dkms for more. [08:03] driven by The Dell Team. interesting... [08:05] s/edge.// [08:06] oh yeah [08:06] And they seem to have removed a lot of info from that page. [08:06] !dkms ~= /edge\.// [08:06] I'll remember that Flannel [08:06] !dkms [08:06] DKMS is Dynamic Kernel Module Support. See https://launchpad.net/dkms for more. [08:08] Dane. [08:08] *Danke === Mez is now known as Mez|Moving [09:21] Just noticed a potential bug of the bot [09:21] eg: mentioning Ubuntu 606 and perhaps Ubuntu 704 maybe [09:21] Ubuntu bug 606 in baz "botched invariant for import" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606 [09:21] Ubuntu bug 704 in launchpad "Default value for "Arch branch" on +sourceadmin should be "MAIN", not "main"." [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704 [09:22] eg [09:22] Yeah, thats a design decision [09:23] genii: it's like ubuntu 1 [09:24] Ubuntu 1 ? he asks [09:25] asdfsadfsadf ubuntu 1 [09:25] asdfasdfsdfasdfasdf asdfasdfasdf Ubuntu 1 [09:25] ok, fine. [09:25] haha [09:25] ubottu: hug me [09:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about hug me [09:25] Flannel: Anyhow, if by design then. Just thought some oddness about it [09:25] There must be a minimum size for the number [09:26] genii: Yeah, there's really no way to get around it, 606 and 704 (and all version numbers if concatted) are valid bug numbers [09:26] OK [09:26] Thanks for explaining [09:26] And I doubt anyone wants to code a HMM into Ubuntu to get around it [09:27] er, into ubottu [09:27] HMM ? [09:27] Hours Minutes Minutes? [09:27] Hidden Markov Model [09:27] I see [09:27] Basically diagraming the sentence based on probability [09:28] Ah [09:28] Flannel: couldnt it use basic Stetson-Harrison? [09:28] * genii considers the Elizabottu [09:28] Although even then, but "Ubuntu 606" the release and "Ubuntu 606" the bug are both nouns [09:28] Ubuntu bug 606 in baz "botched invariant for import" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606 [09:28] Tm_T: Did you know that 74% of all statistics are made up on the spot? [09:28] hehe That can certainly get annoying as you see [09:29] genii: Yeah, well, use the proper terminology, (Ubuntu 6.06) and it won't happen. [09:29] Flannel: I thought that statistic especially [09:29] Ok OK [09:29] genii: :) [09:30] * genii puts on a pot of coffee before he /parts [09:31] hey, Tm_T, I just got done reading an article I found interesting. Did you know that 58% of all statistics are made up on the spot? [09:32] Flannel: where's that spot? [09:32] Tm_T: I'm not really sure. [09:32] article didn't mention? [09:33] Unfortunately not. But apparently 17% of people know where that spot is. [09:33] I bet Mez|Moving knows, because he have many spots in his socks [09:37] * jussi01 is about to start driving home... I hate long drives... [09:37] jussi01: mmmm, have a safe trip [09:38] Tm_T: been working this weekend?? [09:38] partly yes [09:38] have to make major housecleaning today and then work, if there's time left [09:39] hehe [09:46] Hey, anyone who has ops in -offtopic, starbyte should need it soon. [09:53] mmmm. Was that a netsplit? [09:57] * Myrtti has her first pot of espresso [09:57] good morning [10:22] Flannel, no, SendQ [10:26] elkbuntu: What causes sendQ, do you know? [10:26] not a clue [10:27] nal might know [10:27] or any of the staffers. i'd assume they'd have more irc clue than us [10:27] I know its caused by too much traffic, but what would it look like from the clientside? since I went up to 300s lag, and then my recon kicked in [10:27] http://www.irchighway.net/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=102 [10:28] Was wondering if it had to do with the person I had banned at the time, since an invite from her was the last thing I recieved [10:29] grrr [10:29] my usb sticks arent recognised anymore... [10:30] Flannel, you split off before; it's not overly uncommon for people to get SendQ exceeded after rejoining after a split. [10:31] ah, so netsplit, and then sendQ after the rejoin? [10:31] (i.e. they split off, rejoin, then try to /who everyone and end up getting a SendQ exceeded) [10:31] indeed [10:31] Alright, that makes me feel better [10:32] Ive gotten rid of /names on join for a number of reasons, butI don't doubt my queue was too big anyway [10:32] Many clients /who channels as they join them [10:34] I'm not sure if it'd actually be feasible for a third party to trigger a SendQ exceeded. [10:36] Dave2: If there was a split, then that's what caused it. It was just odd for me to have such a large lag spike [10:37] but, that was the server hiccupping [10:37] Indeed, I was just wondering if it would actually be feasible for a third party to directly trigger it. [10:39] Only thing I could think of would be spamming stuff, a mini-DOS [10:41] Even then I doubt it could trigger a SendQ exceeded, unless it had an extremely large collection of hosts, though I could be wrong. === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [11:43] tonyyarusso: -otr binaries have landed. [11:43] * Myrtti stabs her bum [11:47] * jpds hugs Myrtti [12:14] well, this is nice [12:14] Where's Sparky at? [12:15] you guys got a coffee machine in here? [12:15] AlmightyCthulhu, that is the wrong place to discuss it. [12:15] what, in the open [12:15] where people can see what you have done [12:15] you don't like that much, do you? [12:15] I've noticed this [12:16] AlmightyCthulhu: have you seen topic? [12:16] you slowly assassinated me instead of jsut killing everything off [12:16] errr [12:16] what is this about? [12:16] there'd have been some more splainin to do if every damned site around was linking to a dead end [12:16] and I had an explanation of THAT [12:17] he is banned in ot just checking about #u [12:17] I see [12:17] okies [12:17] AlmightyCthulhu, what name were you banned under? this one or baron1984 [12:17] baron1984 [12:17] my IP address never changes [12:17] and btw, every customer of my ISP is behind this proxy [12:18] @banlog baron1984 [12:18] bazhang: #ubuntu-offtopic: 2008-06-15T12:00:49 http://www.linuxinsight.com/files/images/gnome_old.png [12:18] bazhang: #ubuntu-offtopic: 2008-06-15T12:00:50 :) [12:18] bazhang: #ubuntu-offtopic: 2008-06-15T12:01:21 7 Mbps [12:18] bazhang: #ubuntu-offtopic: 2008-06-15T12:02:07 oh, nm [12:18] bazhang: #ubuntu-offtopic: 2008-06-15T12:02:16 I was looking at a clip from an x.264 rip [12:18] bazhang: -- [12:18] so you've banned over 150,000 people [12:18] potentially [12:18] AlmightyCthulhu: because of you? [12:18] AlmightyCthulhu: that's _your_ fault then, isn't it? [12:18] yeah, they have their network set up weird [12:18] @btlogin [12:18] not really [12:19] I just would like an explanation of why you banned me for something so trivial [12:19] in the first place [12:19] ot, ubuntuforums and ubuntu [12:19] on the forums [12:19] as well [12:19] no the channels [12:20] #ubuntuforums [12:21] so what have you just dumped into the room? [12:21] @banlog Baron1984 #ubuntuforums [12:21] bazhang: No matches found for Baron1984 (Baron1984!*@*) in #ubuntuforums [12:21] yeah, Kwinz and p_quarles seem to be constipated or something [12:21] I could bake them some chocolate cookies if you like? [12:22] AlmightyCthulhu, you should read the following documents: [12:22] !coc | AlmightyCthulhu [12:22] AlmightyCthulhu: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [12:22] !guidelines | AlmightyCthulhu [12:22] AlmightyCthulhu: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [12:22] ask your moderators to read the first freaking sentence of that [12:22] at their leisure [12:23] AlmightyCthulhu, you are not helping your case here. [12:23] what? I'm telling the truth [12:23] they see this as some kind of popularity contect [12:23] *contest [12:23] and so they fished for a reason to get rid of me [12:24] AlmightyCthulhu, the fact that such a wide cross-section of people find your behaviour objectionable points not to them as being the problem here. [12:24] * Myrtti doesn't get it [12:24] what have I done? name something [12:24] you still haven't [12:25] AlmightyCthulhu, there are tons of logs. [12:25] that speak quite eloquently for themselves. [12:27] ok, what exactly have I done lately? [12:27] besides letting you leech off a bunch of free attention? [12:27] by the way, you're welcome [12:27] I just love the snarly way of conversating [12:27] makes me not to want to participate more and more [12:28] * Myrtti goes to dress up [12:28] AlmightyCthulhu, at this point in time, you should read those documents and then come back at some later date as you seem ill-disposed to discuss this in a dispassionate manner [12:28] well, when you are condescending, it gives me gas [12:29] AlmightyCthulhu, best is to part now and come back at some later date when you are ready to discuss in a rational manner. [12:29] I'll probably think this is stupid and petty, about as much as I do now [12:29] regardless how long I stew on it [12:29] AlmightyCthulhu, then it will be not resolved; that is up to you entirely. [12:29] I'll ask again [12:29] What have I done wrong? [12:30] besides not having a sunny disposition [12:30] AlmightyCthulhu, and discussing it in the other channels will almost certainly lead to a ban there as well. [12:30] why not, it's obvious how hostile you people are towards me [12:31] why not go for broke? [12:31] am I wrong? [12:31] AlmightyCthulhu, again; that is your choice-->if you want to resolve this then your current path will not do it. [12:32] I even tried to find out why your forum moderators were attacking me [12:32] and calm the situation down [12:33] AlmightyCthulhu, you have so many comments in the other direction one could compile a *best of* Baron1984 and still have loads more. [12:34] you're funny [12:34] I like you [12:34] this can be resolved amicably; however you have to allow for some give on your end. [12:34] and currently you do not seem willing to do so. [12:35] What _has The Almighty Cthulhu_ *done*? [12:35] AlmightyCthulhu, which is why I suggest reading the docs and then coming back when you are ready. [12:35] 350+ Thank Yous [12:35] over one post [12:35] and I'm Satan [12:35] right? [12:35] sure [12:36] AlmightyCthulhu, I have said what I have to say; this seems not be even close to resolution as you are not willing to admit any wrongdoing on your part. [12:36] what? I admitted creating a new account [12:36] because you torpedoed my last one over something silly [12:37] AlmightyCthulhu, if there is nothing else you wish to add please read the /topic and act accordingly. [12:37] I don't understand, you keep saying "I" am the problem [12:40] Well, my blog is getting hits from people asking me why this happened [12:40] and I've told them [12:42] url, please? [12:42] in pm, preferably [12:44] http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2008/07/27/banned-from-ubuntu-forums-for-bogus-reason/ [12:44] crap [12:44] found it, nvm [12:44] most of them already had my email anyway and were asking what the hell happened [12:44] * PriceChild looks in [12:44] I've been helping people with BIOS issues anyway [12:45] ugh [12:45] wonderful behaviour [12:45] * Myrtti washes her hands [12:45] so killing me is just going to make this look worse [12:45] AlmightyCthulhu: are you the author of the foxconn bios thread thing? [12:45] but, things have a tendency to go around [12:45] *foxconn*COUGH [12:45] * Myrtti is disgusted [12:46] so I guess this stays up then? [12:46] you can be as disgusted as you like [12:46] welcome to my world [12:47] hey, you can be as petty as you want [12:47] I could say a thing or two about what you've done wrong - and what the other people have done wrong... [12:47] you can censor things [12:47] but not on my blog [12:47] but I see you're not intrested so why bother [12:47] * Myrtti goes to mind her own business. [12:47] if they want to be belligerent, I'm not going to stop them [12:48] so there is nothing wrong with what you've done? [12:48] nothing what so ever? [12:49] Myrtti: I'm giving my point of view [12:49] they fired first [12:49] nothing? [12:49] nothing wrong? [12:49] they're just being meanies? [12:49] essentially, yes [12:49] thats a funny word [12:49] ok, so there you go [12:49] have fun [12:49] "meanies" [12:50] AlmightyCthulhu: hello there, could we slow the pace down a bit? [12:50] and how would we "resolve" this? [12:50] AlmightyCthulhu: Could I first hear what you want resolved? [12:51] this stupid, childish crap [12:51] frankly [12:51] AlmightyCthulhu: could we be more specific? [12:51] well, I would like my account back [12:51] what account? [12:51] unless I have been so grossly heinous [12:51] as to be permabanned [12:52] AlmightyCthulhu: what account? [12:52] I assume he's talking about ubuntu forums [12:52] TheAlmightyCthulhu [12:52] bingo [12:52] assumptions is all we can work with [12:53] AlmightyCthulhu: you never told that in clear plain text [12:53] AlmightyCthulhu: you want us to unban you on ubuntuforums.org? [12:53] it would go a very long way to establishing a dialog [12:53] he's got bans in #ubuntuforums and #ubuntu-offtopic too [12:53] cause right now, my blog is getting a little bit of traffic [12:53] but anyway [12:53] just throwing that out there [12:53] AlmightyCthulhu: I am afraid that those who run ubuntu's irc presence do NOT run ubuntuforums.org [12:54] AlmightyCthulhu: We cannot unban you on ubuntuforums.org [12:54] AlmightyCthulhu: and it feels so fuzzy and warm to see you bashing admins [12:54] and if this is all just a horrible "misunderstanding" [12:54] see, this is how people are going to take that [12:55] "He did that for all of us, and you BANNED him?" [12:55] AlmightyCthulhu, so you dont care about being unbanned as Baron1984 in the irc channels? thought that was what you sought here [12:55] well, that would be great too [12:55] I've got no idea what he's after [12:55] but hell, I don't know [12:55] AlmightyCthulhu: we do not run ubuntuforums.org [12:55] ubuntuforums.org the web presence has no relation to irc AlmightyCthulhu [12:56] uhhhm, most of you are moderators on the forum too [12:56] unless I am too far off [12:56] not official relation [12:56] AlmightyCthulhu, although going off on irc about that will have adverse effects here [12:56] if there are moderators of forums here, that is coincidental [12:56] I couldn't name even one moderator of the forums on irc [12:56] or perhaps one, but that's it [12:57] so could you go "coincidentally" look at this? [12:57] AlmightyCthulhu: you seem to have gone through the forums resolution centre, if you want to continue your complaint, email forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com [12:57] I don't even remember if I've got account on forums [12:57] AlmightyCthulhu, no reason to, they are a separate entity with whom which you will have to resolve this. [12:57] AlmightyCthulhu: there is nothing else we can do to help you. [12:57] well, that is a shame [12:58] unless you want to discuss your IRC bans [12:58] * bazhang thinks there was one too many whoms or whiches in there [12:58] AlmightyCthulhu: forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com again, that's the way forward. [12:58] well, they'll listen to me when hell freezes over [12:58] I'd totally be wasting my breath [12:58] AlmightyCthulhu, word to the wise: dont go off in channels here about that. [12:58] AlmightyCthulhu: That is the process. Please go through that, then message me on irc if it isn't resolved. [13:03] sent [13:04] if they blow me off, I'll put the email address on my blog [13:04] and let THEIR box fill up B-) [13:04] AlmightyCthulhu: that email address is already public. [13:04] AlmightyCthulhu: threats are also not nice :) [13:04]