[00:00] <kitche> stormzen: install video-xorg-nv package might have got the order wrong but htat's what you need
[00:00] <winkleer> right
[00:00] <Operator> well can someone help me fix my user error of flash not working properly?
[00:00] <arthus> anyone know about configuring Squid?
[00:00] <iter> kevin_: ahh I think I found it .. reverse the numbers in minX and maxX (and / or minY maxY)
[00:00] <Drk_Guy> kitche, maybe nvidia-glx-new?
[00:00] <gary4gar> dblick: for now using ivp6 is not advisable . stick to ipv4
[00:00] <kindofabuzz> Operator: what's wrong with it?
[00:00] <dblick> crimsum, I suppose it could be a security measure to not give me an internet accessible address, i just hadn't thought of it that way.
[00:01] <Operator> kindofabuzz, it plays for 2 seconds and then turns gray, the sound carries on for a further 2 seconds then stops
[00:01] <dblick> crimsun*
[00:01] <kindofabuzz> Operator: try Flash 10 beta
[00:01] <mgrant> dblick: best bet is to tunnel out to a ipv6-ipv4 broker
[00:01] <plouffe> my audio card is not listed at alsa-project.org . What is the best way to go from here and can I use alsa at all? I know that I used alsamixer and it did affect my sound. But I keep getting sound problems. I'm confused.
[00:01] <stormzen> kitche: (yes, I know that they disappeared) -- xserver-xorg-video-nv is already the newest version.
[00:02] <gary4gar> dblick: if you still want ipv6 , read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6
[00:02] <mgrant> dblick: there are a few around (and you get bonus points for joining IRC with a v6 hostmask ;) )
[00:02] <Operator> kindofabuzz, yeah i was in here originally asking for help how to install it, but someone said it didnt exist and to stop being immature
[00:02] <Drk_Guy> winkleer, go to my pm
[00:02] <kindofabuzz> Operator: said flash 10 doesn't exist?
[00:02] <Drk_Guy> lol
[00:02] <Operator> yup, lemme find quote
[00:02] <crimsun> stormzen: I'm pretty sure you're mistaking nv for something else.  The only 'nv' I'm aware of is the X driver, not a kernel module.
[00:02] <kindofabuzz> Operator: don't worry about it, i believe you
[00:02] <Drk_Guy> !quote
[00:02] <mindframe> Do they have reserved parking for non-handicapped people at the Special Olympics?
[00:02] <GibbaTheHutt> When I erase a word with a pencil, where does it go?
[00:02] <elo_> Sorry, my mind was wandering.  One time my mind went all the way to Venus on mail order and I couldn't pay for it.
[00:02] <PriceChild> kindofabuzz: Operator: flash 10 is not finished and is currently in beta.
[00:02] <Mr_Bad_News> i just got done reinstalling and everything is incredibly sllow now
[00:02] <Mr_Bad_News> how do if ixi t?
[00:02] <dblick> mgrant, i'm not sure i understand what you mean. dhcp only gives me a subnet ipv4 address, and an ipv6 address that ifconfig reports is 'Scope:Link'
[00:02] <Mr_Bad_News> i dont think i put enough swap space
[00:03] <Operator> oh quote has gone of screen, never mind
[00:03] <kevin_> iter, the problem is i need to specify a driver in order for that to work, where it says "void" need a driver name
[00:03] <kindofabuzz> Operator: yeah it's in beta, but sooo much better than 9
[00:03] <Drk_Guy> !off-topic | mindframe
[00:03] <crimsun> plouffe: what's the issue?
[00:03] <Operator> PriceChild, still exists though doesnt it?
[00:03] <Blaqlight> frankly I think they were stressing more the latter versus the former.
[00:03] <PriceChild> Operator: flash 10 final doesn't exist.
[00:03] <plouffe> crimsun: right now no sound on any application
[00:03] <Dein> i need urgent help, i've lost my gnome-panel and cannot get it back. it just doesn't appear. i tried reseting it to default, it doesn't help
[00:03] <crimsun> plouffe: ok, I'll help in #ubuntu-audio-help
[00:03] <gary4gar> Operator: yeah, you can install the BETA version from Adobe.com
[00:03] <arthus> can I get support with setting up Squid here? where should I go?
[00:03] <Mr_Bad_News> seriously it takes up to 50 seconds to a minute when i click a tab
[00:03] <arthus> sorry, I'm new to Linux and IRC
[00:03] <Mr_Bad_News> everything is lagging
[00:03] <Operator> PriceChild, so, i was asking for help on how to install it, wether or not the final exists is irrelevant
[00:04] <Blaqlight> Dein: do you have a terminal?
[00:04] <Operator> gary4gar, yeah, i need help
[00:04] <PriceChild> Operator: flash 10 beta can be installed from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
[00:04] <gary4gar> arthus: shoot any spefic question, else read wike
[00:04] <mgrant> dblick: http://tunnelbroker.net/ or similar (but gary4gar's link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6 is better)
[00:04] <Dein> Blaqlight: i can open my yeah-console, but not the terminal. only the wallpaper, and i can run whatever i want from the yeah-console, except gnome-terminal, it doesn't appear too
[00:04] <Operator> PriceChild, i know, i need help installing it!
[00:04] <stormzen> crimsun: Ack.  Did I get that name wrong, too?
[00:04] <kindofabuzz> Operator: just download the beta, extract it, then sudo cp /whereverthefolderis/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree
[00:04] <Mr_Bad_News> can  i eddit swap space ffrom the terminal?
[00:04] <PriceChild> Operator: it comes with *very* easy instructions, and a script to automate it
[00:04] <gary4gar> !squid | arthus:
[00:04] <ghouly> arthus, maybe try        /join #squid           in irc as well
[00:05] <Operator> PriceChild, the script does not worl
[00:05] <Operator> *wotk
[00:05] <Blaqlight> Dein: type ps ax and see if its running.
[00:05] <Operator> kindofabuzz, thanks, i'll try
[00:05] <PriceChild> Operator: what doesn't work about it?
[00:05] <kindofabuzz> Operator: make sure FF is close while doing it though
[00:05] <Blaqlight> Dein: if its not type gnomepanel.
[00:05] <Blaqlight> err gnome-panel
[00:05] <crimsun> stormzen: what name did you intend?
[00:05] <arthus> would the client address of "192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0" match "192.168.1.71" ?
[00:05] <spiel_mit_feuer_> hey.. does anyone think they can help me get a 32-bit ubuntu package i can manually install?
[00:05] <Mr_Bad_News> i have a gig of ram and its lagging like im on 128
[00:05] <Mr_Bad_News> how do i fix it
[00:06] <Blaqlight> Mr_Bad_News: do you have a swap partition?
[00:06] <Dein> Blaqlight: it's on the list
[00:06] <spiel_mit_feuer_> or.. is there any way to force apt to install a 32 bit app on a 64 bit machine?
[00:06] <kindofabuzz> yeah that script asks for the location of FF, not the location of the plugin ubuntu FF looks for the plugin
[00:06] <Operator> now how do i check if its installed?
[00:06] <kindofabuzz> Operator: just download the beta, extract it, then sudo cp /whereverthefolderis/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree
[00:06] <Mr_Bad_News> yes Blaqlight but i doont think i put enough space for it
[00:06] <kindofabuzz> Operator: about:plugins
[00:06] <Blaqlight> Dein: ok its running. kill its process
[00:06] <matic> how to get 3d desktop?
[00:06] <ghouly> hi all, ever since i installed a bunch of wireless related packets, i have to do manually make a dhcp request to get an ip for my ethernet after reboot, otherwise it doesn't get an ip, can anyone point me in the right direction please ? i don't know what to search for =(
[00:06] <stormzen> crimsun: Whatever module name allows me to specify "nv" in xorg.conf.
[00:06] <Blaqlight> dein then restart it
[00:06] <crimsun> stormzen: right.  You're confusing modprobe with xorg.conf.
[00:06] <Operator> sweet it works
[00:07] <Operator> thanks kindofabuzz
[00:07] <gary4gar> ghouly: check the wifi docs?
[00:07] <crimsun> stormzen: nv is an X driver, not a kernel module.
[00:07] <Blaqlight> Dein: killall gnome-panel
[00:07] <Dein> Blaqlight: okay, i'll try now
[00:07] <Blaqlight> Dein: then type gnome-panel
[00:07] <stormzen> crimsun: Ok.
[00:07] <ghouly> gary4gar, i don't really need wifi, but installing packets for wifi broke my normal ethernet, which shouldn't happen i think
[00:08] <Dein> Blaqlight: nothing happens
[00:08] <arthus> gary4gar: would the client address of "192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0" match "192.168.1.71" ?
[00:08] <stormzen> crimsun: Thanks for the assist.
[00:09] <spiel_mit_feuer_> hmm
[00:09] <spiel_mit_feuer_> ubuntu package website is down?
[00:09] <Blaqlight> Im not sure the exact command to only show gnome-panel in ps ax.
[00:09] <gary4gar> arthus: no idea buddy, i always use Free tools for that
[00:09] <gary4gar> never did it manual
[00:09] <arthus> gar4gar: is there a way to check it?
[00:10] <gary4gar> hold on
[00:10] <Operator> hi everyone, my name is operator and i am looking for help installing Beryl, to get the awesome cube, anyone up for helping me?
[00:10] <iter> kevin_: ok try using the evtouch driver and making the changes mentioned on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/204633
[00:10] <Blaqlight> Dein: you may want to CTRL ALT F1 and then try that again.
[00:10] <YixilTesiphon> anybody able to recommend a good scanning utility?
[00:10] <Kohlrak> is there a terminal command to kill and run gnome?
[00:10] <YixilTesiphon> have an epson stylus cx7400
[00:10] <nathan__> Hi everyone.  I have two monitors, I'm trying to get vncviewer to open full screen on my secondary monitor.  So far the only luck with full screen is it is on both monitors with black bars on either side.  I'm using nvidia Twinview.  anyone have any idea how i can go about making it 'full screen' on my right monitor?
[00:10] <Dein> Blaqlight: maybe i can help by saying what i was doing last - i was switching through my themes and there was this one called qt ... i clicked it and everything disappeared, and upon logging in, i managed to switch the theme to another, so now everything works, except no panel
[00:11] <gary4gar> arthus: http://jodies.de/ipcalc
[00:11] <Blaqlight> ohhhh
[00:11] <arthus> gary4gar: thanks :)
[00:11] <KleinerHai> Do you know the name?
[00:11] <Blaqlight> Dein just CTRL ALT BKSP
[00:11] <KleinerHai> Instead?
[00:11] <gary4gar> arthus: Google FTW!
[00:11] <Dein> Blaqlight: i've tried that a couple of times
[00:11] <KleinerHai> :(
[00:12] <Dein> Blaqlight: i can again
[00:12] <Operator> hi everyone, my name is operator and i am looking for help installing Beryl, to get the awesome cube, anyone up for helping me?
[00:12] <gary4gar> bye all
[00:12] <gary4gar> see ya later
[00:12] <Viking667> really quick question... how do I stop Ubuntu booting up with that infernal splash screen from grub? I've tried adding "splash=none" which of course didn't work, neither did "splash=no"
[00:12] <kindofabuzz> Operator: it's already installed in Hardy by default, you just got to install the config thing, don't know why they didn't install that
[00:13] <Operator> ah right, and i get the awesome cube, right?
[00:13] <nectron> how do I close a port by port number in ubuntu ?
[00:13] <simsim> how do I close a port by port number in ubuntu ?
[00:13] <TiredWolf> nectron: uhm, you can use iptables, let me see if i can dig you a command line up
[00:13] <simsim> thanks a lot!!
[00:13] <kindofabuzz> Operator: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:13] <TiredWolf> simsim, is closing it for TCP enough?
[00:13] <Viking667> simsim: uhm, don't repeat too many times, by the way.
[00:14] <Operator> kindofabuzz, thanks, this wont ruin any of my curent config will it?
[00:14] <kindofabuzz> Operator: then just play with it, on your own then =)
[00:14] <simsim> I want to fully make it closed and unseen on nmap
[00:14] <Dein> Blaqlight: still nothing :(
[00:14] <Operator> kindofabuzz, will do, cheers
[00:14] <kindofabuzz> Operator: no, unless you're running fluxbox or something
[00:14] <simsim> I don't need smtp open
[00:15] <Blaqlight> Dein: hang on lemme start gnome-session
[00:15] <TiredWolf> simsim, well, i can offer you this: iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport <port-number> -j DROP
[00:15] <iter> simsim: /etc/init.d/postfix stop
[00:15] <matic> need help with establishing wireless
[00:15] <TiredWolf> simsim: try and see
[00:15] <dedinhead> i haz a lazy
[00:15] <simsim> TiredWolf: You're great, thanks..
[00:15] <simsim> let me see
[00:15] <Viking667> meh. found it, quite by accident. Removed the "splash" parameter altogether.
[00:15] <atomic> hello folks. need help getting wireless to work with 8.04. forum says to "open the restricted drivers management and enable bcm43xx". how do I do this?
[00:16] <nathan__> Hi everyone.  I have two monitors, I'm trying to get vncviewer to open full screen on my secondary monitor.  So far the only luck with full screen is it is on both monitors with black bars on either side.  I'm using nvidia Twinview.  anyone have any idea how i can go about making it 'full screen' on my right monitor?
[00:16] <TiredWolf> simsim: if you want that to be reinstated every time you boot, i guess you can put it in /etc/rc.local, or possibly use the "iptables-save" command, but i've never used that
[00:16] <maria> hi guys, i am using hardy heron, i added polish characters as a second keyboard setting, and im using right control, or right alt as a third level character key, it works fine, but however, every once in a while it just stops working, and i just have to go check and uncheck the third level character keys, anyone know if there is a reason it just stop sworking?
[00:17] <kalydess> hello
[00:17] <Operator> kindofabuzz, how do i run it now its installed, how do i start configuring??
[00:17] <iter> maria: sounds like a legit bug, I would submit it
[00:17] <Blaqlight> Dein: it worked for me,
[00:17] <miraage> hey guys. what's the ubuntu way of configuring a server as a router? do i still need to do that MASQUERADE rule in iptables or is there some nicer way?
[00:17] <Analysto> ﻿/msg ubottu etiquette
[00:17] <maria> iter,  i wouldnt even know where to start, how do i submit something
[00:17] <Blaqlight> Dein: killall gnome-panel restarts it.
[00:18] <iter> maria: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/reportproblem
[00:18] <TiredWolf> miraage: nicer way, i guess you can use firestarter
[00:18] <tobias_> how do i adjust the color balance of my monitor in ubuntu?
[00:18] <Dein> Blaqlight: i know, i did that a couple of times before when having problems, it doens't help this time
[00:18] <TiredWolf> !inetsharing | miraage
[00:18] <maria> ok thanks
[00:18] <miraage> thanks.
[00:18] <Kiyiko> i just installed restriceted drivers for my nvidia card, and and i am looking for a way to change the refresh rate to somehting other than the default options
[00:19] <Epotn> im trying to use mysql for the first time on my ubuntu server and i try: mysql -u root it prompts for new password but i get error 1045 and says that root @ localhost denied?
[00:19] <miraage> well i don't have X so firestarter isn't an option
[00:19] <Viking667> Right. Time I left. See y'all.
[00:19] <Operator> hey, how much of a head is the drummer from system of a down
[00:19] <krazy-h> Can someone tell me how to make my terminal speak any key i tape ?
[00:20] <Blaqlight> Dein: though after I did that it really started acting strange. note to self don't do that again heh
[00:20] <TiredWolf> krazy-h: uhm perhaps "yasr"
[00:20] <Kiyiko> the only selectabel refresh rate for this resolution is 55:(
[00:21] <Dein> Blaqlight: any ideas what i can try?
[00:21] <Nelani> Kiyiko: try using nvidia-settings from the repositories
[00:23] <guido> I'm having a BadMatch Error with KWin, anyone knows how to fix this?
[00:23] <Blaqlight> Dein: Im out of ideas, ever restarting won't work because your .session is corrupted it sounds like.
[00:23] <Miranda> okay it says it is out of memory
[00:23] <Blaqlight> if you desleted that out of your nome folder it might work. someone correct me if Im wrong
[00:24] <kevin_> iter, thats it man your a freakin genious
[00:24] <Blaqlight> geez my typing gets worse day by day.
[00:24] <atomic> just installed hardy.. restricted driver manager not on menu.. how do I run manually?
[00:24] <kevin_> iter, thanks for your time :)
[00:24] <Dein> Blaqlight: can i fix my session?
[00:25] <Analysto> I configured scim to use arabic input, it lets me to write in arabic but letters are mixed
[00:25] <crdlb> atomic: it's now System > Admin > Hardware Drivers
[00:26] <Blaqlight> Dein: yeah I don't remember how to though
[00:26] <Dein> Blaqlight: news - i cannot open nautilus either
[00:27] <Blaqlight> hmm ok try this
[00:27] <Blaqlight> Dein: type gnome-session into the terminal
[00:27] <Dein> Blaqlight: i managed to open the panels by sudo-ing them, but now i have root panels opened... i've tried that, it says that a session manager is already running
[00:28] <mrtin> where can i find a vista look like menu for gnome?
[00:28] <Blaqlight> Dein: thats a bad idea
[00:28] <Dein> Blaqlight: i know, i just wanted to see if i can open any panels at all, i killed them now
[00:28] <miraage> ii'm trying to use ufw for *nat stuff
[00:28] <Kiyiko> i am unable to find my nvidia settings:(
[00:28] <Blaqlight> alright then killall gnome-session
[00:29] <reya276> is there a way to copy files from my local PC to and SSH connection through terminal?
[00:29] <harpreet> yes
[00:29] <harpreet> cp . . . source .. . destination
[00:29] <whaaatever87> where do i find ubuntu repositories?
[00:29] <Dein> Blaqlight: when i do that it takes me back to login
[00:29] <miraage> do i need to do something special for ufw *nat rules to work?
[00:30] <inik2> reya276:  scp
[00:30] <inik2> ысз
[00:30] <whaaatever87> anyone?
[00:30] <harpreet> whaaatever87: software sources
[00:30] <Blaqlight> ok now login gnome-failsafe to see if its gnome itself or just your session
[00:30] <reya276> ﻿inik2: scp, what is this?
[00:30] <inspyre> can the mobile gui be used on a pc?
[00:30] <harpreet> whaaatever87: /etc/apt/sources
[00:30] <stonedchef> hai
[00:30] <Dein> Blaqlight: tried that one too, no panels
[00:30] <inik2> secure copy
[00:30] <Blaqlight> hmm
[00:31] <qwm> can i run the ubuntu netbook remix on the eee 900?
[00:31] <inik2> reya276: secure copy via ssl
[00:31] <reya276> ﻿inik2: what is the command? or can I find this on the Ubuntu Wiki?
[00:31] <Blaqlight> and the funny thing is, I had your problem before I can't remember the exact steps I took to fix it.
[00:31] <l3d> is there a way to make a kde app use the gtk theme I am using now?
[00:31] <Analysto> ﻿I configured scim to use arabic input, it lets me to write in arabic but letters are mixed
[00:32] <l3d>  with out having to install kcontrol with synaptic
[00:33] <Alex_hamburgers> ok listen here you fucks
[00:33] <Alex_hamburgers> you need to use a goddam real op system
[00:33] <Alex_hamburgers> before i fucking rip all of your dicks off
[00:33] <Alex_hamburgers> and ram them down your throughts
[00:33] <nathan__> ohh ok
[00:33] <tim_ubuntu> Hi, can someone try to help me with a problem i have with seeding torrents from what.cd? i am able to upload from other websites like isohunt.com but not from what.cd, i have my firewall disabled and i am not using a router.
[00:33] <Blaqlight> Dein: ok type gedit ~/.xsession-errors
[00:33] <sjaakz> mm how do I install my Linksys WMP54G wireless PCI card on Ubuntu 8.04?
[00:34] <Blaqlight> Dein: that should give you some clue as to why gnome-panel won't load.
[00:34] <Huufarted> tim_ubuntu, first off get a firewall and router set up and going.  Like, now.  second, sounds like an issue with what.cd, not your set.
[00:34] <Huufarted> setup*
[00:35] <Analysto> Hi, anybody can help with scim?, ﻿I configured scim to use arabic input, it lets me to write in arabic but letters are mixed
[00:35] <Blaqlight> Dein: look for anything having to do with gnome-panel.
[00:35] <harpreet> sjaakz: is it internal?
[00:35] <Dein> Blaqlight: i'ts not even mentioned
[00:35] <sjaakz> harpeet: yes
[00:36] <harpreet> sjaak u have laptop or desktop?
[00:36] <sjaakz> desktop
[00:36] <sjaakz> its a PCI card
[00:36] <harpreet> sjaakz: is the card in?
[00:36] <sjaakz> yes
[00:36] <riegersn> I want to be able to goto places>network and see my other ubuntu pcs is this possible?
[00:37] <glitsj16> l3d: have you tried gtk-qt-engine yet (or gtk-qt-engine-kde4 if you run KDE4) ?
[00:37] <tim_ubuntu> Is ufw a good enough firewall?
[00:38] <harpreet> sjaakz: do this : lspci on terminal and see what cards it lists if urs
[00:38] <glitsj16> tim_ubuntu: ufw is a frontend to the actual firewall called iptables .. i guess ufw is as good as your rules are
[00:38] <liquias> Hey guys , Happy to be here .
[00:38] <milan> hi all
[00:38] <Natit> hi
[00:38] <liquias> can N e 1 Help me a little ?
[00:39] <harpreet> sjaakz: follow this : http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/
[00:39] <sjaakz> Harpeet: it says Ralink RT2561/R61
[00:39] <wols> !rx2x00
[00:39] <harpreet> sjaakz: u have linux driver for it?
[00:39] <legend2440> tim_ubuntu: firestarter is easier to use
[00:39] <kats> if that guy comes back tell him there's no such thing as a throught
[00:39] <Blaqlight> Dein: my seggestion then is to ask glitsj16.
[00:39] <wols> harpreet: ´there is a linux driver for it
[00:40] <wols> no need for ndiswrapper
[00:40] <sjaakz> harpeet: well there is no Linux driver at the Linksys CDrom that came with the WMP54G card
[00:40] <Dein> glitsj16: hi, Blaqlight suggested that i should ask you how to get my gnome-panel back, because whatever i try fails
[00:40] <Blaqlight> Dein: Ive run out of ideas.
[00:40] <liquias> im having extreem newbe trouble ....
[00:40] <wols> sjaakz: rt61 it is
[00:40] <Dein> Blaqlight: thank you for your time, i'll try asking him
[00:41] <sjaakz> wols: yes I loaded the driver in ndiswrapper and it says rt61 / hardware availabke: yes
[00:41] <sjaakz> wols: but it doesnt seem to show up as wlam0
[00:41] <glitsj16> Dein: okay, i didn't follow your thread, will do some scrolling hang on :)
[00:41] <wols> sjaakz: I don't care about ndiswrapper. it's not needed
[00:41] <sjaakz> like: the Os doesnt seem to know theres actually a wireless device
[00:41] <sjaakz> wols: ok how else can I make it to work?
[00:41] <wols> I told you- rt61 is the driver
[00:42] <sjaakz> wols: yes but i dont know what to do with this info
[00:42] <sjaakz> wols; like see if synaptics has a rt61?
[00:42] <liquias> how come i cant seem to d/l the ubuntu installation correctly.
[00:42] <sky_> guys I need help setting 3D on my ATI card can any1 plz plz help
[00:42] <sky_> ?
[00:43] <harpreet> sjaakz u have to download rt61 then i guess
[00:43] <liquias> 4 times in a row md5 come out garbage
[00:43] <wols> !ati | sky_
[00:43] <sky_> !ati
[00:43] <liquias> what am i doing wrong ?
[00:43] <sjaakz> download "rt61" ?
[00:43] <sjaakz> like google for rt61?
[00:43] <glitsj16> Dein:read something about your sessions being corrupt .. correct ?
[00:44] <camrail> has n e 1 had the same problem of getting java to work at pogo.com?
[00:44] <Blaqlight> glitsj16: thats what it sounds like. he tried to install/use a theme.
[00:44] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: ah okay, thanks
[00:44] <wols> camrail: dpkg -l |grep java
[00:45] <liquias> guys , n e 1 ?
[00:45] <camrail> will that work? thanks
[00:45] <Dein> glitsj16: i'll gladly repeat - i was scrolling through my gnome-themes and there was this one called qt so i clicked it to check it out, (i know what qt is, so i have no idea why i did that) and after it applied everything crashed, so i've logged out-in and i had no windows open. so i changed the theme back to default through the yeah-console (can't open terminal) and now i can open anything rom the yeah-console, but i cannot open most gnome-s
[00:45] <wols> !ask | liquias
[00:45] <AdamXIII> Hi I configured scim to input in arabic, but all letters are mixed each other
[00:45] <sukuri> Ack! here we go
[00:45] <riegersn> I want to be able to goto places>network and see my other ubuntu pcs is this possible?
[00:45] <alan_m> wols, you should have a space between the pipe :)
[00:45] <alami> i have a bug on my ubuntu
[00:45] <wols> alan_m: no
[00:45] <liquias> !ask | liquias
[00:46] <sukuri> Hi, when resuming my computer from standby, it seemed to freeze. I restarted it, and grub had an error. If I recall, it was 'error 15'. How do I fix this? or, how do I reinstall grub? I've forgotten which partition it's in...
[00:46] <sky_> I got this running the second command "insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 File exists"
[00:46] <wols> liquias: "will anyone help me?" is a useless plea for help. State your actual problem instead in a way someone can help you. ask specific questions
[00:46] <zyrorl> hey guys... i'm in a bit of a pickle here... rebooted my dual boot ubuntu linux notebook and i nolonger can boot into either vista or ubuntu
[00:46] <giacomo_carissim> im having some filesystem errors and fsck doesnt seem to fix them... is there any hope of fixing them, or should i try to salvage what i can and reinstall?
[00:46] <zyrorl> can't repair it with chkdsk using vista either
[00:46] <alan_m> oh yeah wols, it works either way with or without the space between the pipe, sorry :)
[00:46] <wols> giacomo_carissim: what filesystem?
[00:46] <zyrorl> vista cd even
[00:46] <glitsj16> Dein: okay thanks for the rundown .. you might try to empty your session cache, is there something relevant still in ~/.cache/sessions you could move out of the way for now ?
[00:46] <AdamXIII> !ask
[00:46] <zyrorl> i can't boot into either vista or ubuntu
[00:47] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> Hello
[00:47] <liquias> !ask
[00:47] <giacomo_carissim> e3?
[00:47] <liquias> ?
[00:47] <wols> liquias: either ask your real question or shut up. don't abuse the bot
[00:47] <m0rbid> I am trying to install Ubuntu from the Live CD to an External USB HDD. I got the install to finally work all the way thru, even fighting with GRUB, but when we select the option from GRUB menu, it says unable to mount. Can someone explain why?? or how to fix it??
[00:47] <Dein> glitsj16: hmmm, so i just delete everything there?
[00:47] <liquias> he he , didnt mean to abuse anything . sorry about that .
[00:47] <AdamXIII> !ask ﻿I configured scim to input in arabic, but all letters are mixed each other
[00:48] <glitsj16> Dein: move them to somewhere for now might be safer
[00:48] <Dein> glitsj16: i have a couple of thunar-random numbers files there, i was trying out xfce 2 weeks ago
[00:48] <AdamXIII> ﻿I configured scim to input in arabic, but all letters are mixed each other, how could i make it to input in a correct way?
[00:48] <liquias> i am trying to d/l the installation from ubuntu and i get 4 times in a row md5 errors.
[00:48] <liquias> what am i doing wrong ?
[00:48] <alan_m> Please, can we try not abusing the bot? If your unsure of how to use it please go to #ubuntu-bots and tinker in there, or in private message. Thanks everyone.
[00:48] <inik2> !ask|pdf
[00:48] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> I have a problem with ubuntu on my laptop.  When I turn on my computer, the sound workes just fine until I stop using it for maybe 20 mins to an hour.  This means that I cant watch videos online, listen to music, watch movies or anything having to do with sound.  This dident use to happen but its really anoying now.  How do I fix this, anyone?
[00:48] <glitsj16> Dein: yes they shouldn't interfer, but if you don't use Thunbar any longer, juts remove those
[00:49] <Blaqlight> Dein: thunar is the xfce version of nautilus. ( a file manager)
[00:49] <Dein> glitsj16: well, if i fail repairing this, i'll have to resort to xfce, so if they don't interfere, i would'nt mind keeping them
[00:49] <glitsj16> Dein: okay, no problem
[00:50] <zyrorl> Is there anyway i can repair my filesystem? i have installed ubuntu into the ntfs partition, and can't boot into either. chkdsk on windows recovery disk wont fix the issue, booting into vista gives me bsod on boot now, booting into ubuntu gives me issues, i can't even boot.  when i use livecd i get  unable to mount disk unless i force it, im able to get in if i force the mount
[00:50] <sukuri> 	Hi, when resuming my computer from standby, it seemed to freeze. I restarted it, and grub had an error. If I recall, it was 'error 15'. How do I fix this? or, how do I reinstall grub? I've forgotten which partition it's in...
[00:50] <giacomo_carissim> wols, its ext3
[00:50] <Dein> glitsj16: only one of the files contains something inside, and it's just a default folder to display upon opening it
[00:50] <zyrorl> but how do i recover my ubuntu filesystem
[00:50] <wols> giacomo_carissim: boot from livecd and then fsck the filesystem
[00:50] <giacomo_carissim> jesus, im not the only one having filesystem problems
[00:50] <alan_m> !fixgrub | sukuri
[00:51] <wols> !errors | zyrorl
[00:51] <giacomo_carissim> wols, i did, and i still am on knoppix
[00:51] <glitsj16> Dein: after moving the relevant sesions out of the way, can you type "ps -eaf | grep gnome-panel" in a terminal, to see if there are any processes that draw panels are still actually running ?
[00:51] <giacomo_carissim> i just select yes for everything pretty much
[00:51] <wols> giacomo_carissim: what does fsck say then?
[00:51] <wols> giacomo_carissim: ALL output
[00:51] <AdamXIII> !fixscim
[00:51] <giacomo_carissim> there's a bunch of errors, 2s that should be 1s
[00:51] <m0rbid> How do I fix grub on an External Hard Disk?
[00:52] <wols> m0rbid: are you booting from external harddisk?
[00:52] <wols> !errors | m0rbid
[00:52] <m0rbid> wols: attempting too
[00:52] <AdamXIII> !fixscim | AdamXIII
[00:52] <m0rbid> I am trying to install Ubuntu from the Live CD to an External USB HDD. I got the install to finally work all the way thru, even fighting with GRUB, but when we select the option from GRUB menu, it says unable to mount. Can someone explain why?? or how to fix it??
[00:52] <liquias> i am trying to d/l the installation from ubuntu and i get 4 times in a row md5 errors. what am i doing wrong ?
[00:52] <m0rbid> ^^ wols
[00:52] <wols> AdamXIII: stop abusing the bot. it told you time and again !fixscim does not exist!
[00:53] <wols> mouser-: better detail on what you do and then goes wrong
[00:53] <Dein_> glitsj16: sorry, i've lost connection, did you say something?
[00:53] <AdamXIII> !﻿scim | AdamXIII
[00:53] <wols> !selftell | AdamXIII
[00:53] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> When I turn on my computer my sound work's until I stop using sound for 20 mins to an hour, anyone know how to fix it?
[00:53] <camrail> I have all the java packages and plugins installed and they work fine every place except pogo.com
[00:53] <wols> camrail: I am still waiting....
[00:53] <m0rbid> wols??
[00:53] <Blaqlight> Dein_: type /msg nickserv ghost Dein password.
[00:54] <wols> m0rbid: you heard me
[00:54] <m0rbid> I explained it all.
[00:54] <zyrorl> !pastebin
[00:54] <glitsj16> Dein: try checking if there's anything from gnome-panel still running (could be a zombie in there) .. run "ps -eaf | grep gnome-panel" to check
[00:54] <wols> m0rbid: no.
[00:54] <m0rbid> Im sorry I missed something then.
[00:54] <Blaqlight> Dein: there you go :P
[00:54] <miraage> how do i debug internet sharing?
[00:55] <m0rbid> wols: I am trying to install Ubuntu from the Live CD to an External USB HDD. I got the install to finally work all the way thru, even fighting with GRUB, but when we select the option from GRUB menu, it says unable to mount. Can someone explain why?? or how to fix it??
[00:55] <Flannel> m0rbid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing%20on%20external%20or%20RAID%20hard%20disks
[00:55] <sky_> guys btw I think I'm using the ATI driver on my card mas video playback is waaaaaay to slow can anyone help ?
[00:55] <wols> m0rbid: stop addressing me if you can't answer my question. especially with useless repeats
[00:55] <wols> sky_: what driver do you use?
[00:55] <m0rbid> perhaps I missed your question.
[00:55] <Dein> glitsj16: i've got a bunch of output, but little do i understand
[00:55] <Dein> Blaqlight: thanks :)
[00:56] <m0rbid> I am booting right now from the Live CD
[00:56] <Blaqlight> Dein: use pastebin.ubuntu.com
[00:56] <glitsj16> Dein: yes, make a paste please
[00:56] <sky_> wols: /fglrx
[00:57] <liquias> how come i cant seem to d/l the iso file that installs ubunu from any server correctly ? allways MD5 crappy
[00:57] <wols> sky_: glxinfo
[00:57] <Flannel> liquias: Try doing it through bittorrent
[00:57] <Dein> glitsj16: i cannot copy from yeah-console, and i cannot get to a normal terminal :S any way i don't know about?
[00:57] <Gaming4JC> Hmm
[00:58] <liquias> this is MORE reliable than regular d/l using flashget(on windows ?)
[00:58] <liquias> this is MORE reliable than regular d/l using flashget(on windows)?
[00:58] <wols> liquias: yes
[00:58] <sky_> wols: sry bout that OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[00:58] <liquias> got it .
[00:58] <Gaming4JC> hey all is it possible to Create a Two computer Network, with simply an Ubuntu and a WinXP box with Ethernet Cards and one Ethernet cable?
[00:58] <wols> flashget does not do any checksums
[00:58] <Prose> was wondering, is there an app thats allows underclocking so that I may be rid of the noisy fan in my server-box?
[00:58] <liquias> thanks !
[00:59] <wols> sky_: you are on autoignore. don't bother anymore
[00:59] <hhp2k> Gnea: You there?
[00:59] <glitsj16> Dein: try "ps -eaf | grep gnome-panel > output-to-paste.txt" .. and try to paste the content of that file, not familiar with yeah-console sorry
[00:59] <Gaming4JC> The network only requires to computers so I don't need a Hub?...
[00:59] <Gaming4JC> *two computers
[00:59] <Dein> glitsj16: could the error in xsession errors file "Not running the gtk-qt engine" be the cause?
[00:59] <wols> Gaming4JC: yes. you need a crossover network cable
[00:59] <nikosapi> Gaming4JC: yeah, just ensure that both PCs are on the same subnet
[00:59] <sky_> wols: just warn before
[00:59] <Blaqlight> Dein: sure can.
[01:00] <glitsj16> Dein: if that qt theme refers to the Qt engine yes it might
[01:00] <kindofabuzz> gtk-qu engine?  aren't those two seperate things/
[01:00] <kindofabuzz> qt*
[01:00] <Blaqlight> Dein: especially if the theme your using requires it.
[01:00] <Gaming4JC> nikosapi: Any tutorials that use only two computers with Ethernet cards and one Ethernet cable?
[01:00] <Gaming4JC> or do I need that crossover thing... :(
[01:00] <inavat> hello.  I've been messing around with aticonfig and other stuff, trying to get my svideo-out to work.   I must've screwed something up, because the next time I rebooted, I just get a black screen.  When I went into recovery and had it reinitialize my xorg.conf, it worked again, but I'm not using the fglrx drivers anymore.  When I switched back to the copy of xorg.conf I had been using before I started messing around, I still get the
[01:00] <inavat> black screen
[01:00] <sukuri> Hi, when resuming my computer from standby, it seemed to freeze. I restarted it, and grub had an error. If I recall, it was 'error 15'. How do I fix this? or, how do I reinstall grub? I've forgotten which partition it's in...
[01:01] <inavat> that xorg.conf definitely worked before
[01:01] <hhp2k> Hey everyone, why is it that whenever I'm trying to go to a URL on firefox, it's redirecting me to wsearch.net?? That looks like the tactics of spyware. :S
[01:01] <Blaqlight> kindofabuzz: qt-toolkit is what kde uses to render winow decorations
[01:01] <chuy_max> hhp2k, isnt it your home page?
[01:01] <kindofabuzz> Blaqlight: he said gtk-qt
[01:01] <Dein> kindofabuzz: that's what it says there :S
[01:01] <wols> hhp2k: it is. try another browser and check if it's the same. use links for example
[01:02] <chuy_max> hhp2k, that would be if you open a new window, never heard of that in linux
[01:02] <glitsj16> Dein: do you have that package installed ? gtk-qt-engine ?
[01:02] <hhp2k> chuy_max: No, my homepage is the Welcome to ubuntu thing, for now
[01:02] <Blaqlight> kindofabuzz: yes, gtk-qt is the gnome version of the same engine.
[01:02] <nikosapi> Gaming4JC: if the computers are relatively modern you should be able to do it with a regular ethernet cable (when you plug them together if the lights on the enternet cards turn on you should be good)
[01:02] <dblick> hhp2k, i imagine it could be your ISP as well
[01:02] <hhp2k> chuy_max: I type something in the google search at the top, it redirs me to wsearch.net.. I try www.google.com and it redirs me to wsearch.net
[01:02] <hhp2k> dblick: That's pretty odd.
[01:03] <PJ> Is there a way to bypass packages.ubuntu and get to a specific mirror of all packages, so I can download directly?
[01:03] <wols> hhp2k: did you do what I told you?
[01:03] <wols> PJ: yes. with apt-get
[01:03] <wols> PJ: or synaptic
[01:03] <Gaming4JC> cool thanks nikosapi. And how would I connect them on the same subnet? I'm kinda new to this type of thing... lol
[01:03] <TiredWolf> PJ, why would you download directly?
[01:03] <hhp2k> wols:  What did you tell me to do?
[01:03] <TiredWolf> PJ: APT is right there to help you
[01:03] <Dein> glitsj16: yes, already at newest version
[01:03] <wols> hhp2k: read
[01:03] <zyrorl> can someone please help me with my pastebin request : http://paste.ubuntu.com/30715/
[01:03] <PJ> I need to move the files to non network'd systems.
[01:04] <wols> !apt-zip
[01:04] <wols> PJ: use apt-zip then
[01:04] <TiredWolf> !offline | pj
[01:04] <hhp2k> wols: Ah, missed that
[01:04] <Flannel> PJ: use apt-get with -d, and then aptonCD
[01:04] <Shpook> Anyone here good with gtk-gnutella filters? Or is that out of the scope of this room?
[01:04] <nikosapi> Gaming4JC: on your ubuntu box you can then assign the card an IP using ifconfig (sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.x up) and on windows configure the network settings so that the IP starts with 192.168.0.x (x is a random number from 1-254) and the netmask should be 255.255.255.0
[01:04] <wols> !anyone | Shpook
[01:05] <PJ> These are all great options for the long term, however 1) Them being offline is temperary so a long term solution is not needed, and 2) I just need 1 package right now.
[01:05] <TiredWolf> PJ: or apt-zip, yes, which isn't very different from the Synaptic method i think. anyway, just go to packages.ubuntu.com, select any package, select any mirror, and look carefully at the address. you'll find that you can just strip the last parts of the path and go to the full directory listing.
[01:05] <TiredWolf> PJ: yet, using things like the ones suggested to you will ease the task a lot.
[01:05] <Guest3103> I've just moved a machine from a boxy "standard" monitor to the input on a LCD monitor that has native resolution of 1366x768.  However nothing shows on the screen except a blue background and "No signal".. can anyone help me fix the resolution?  fglrx is the current driver
[01:05] <PJ> TiredWolf, packages.ubuntu is not responding.
[01:05] <glitsj16> Dein: can't really tell what's going on actually .. you did activate another theme other than "qt" as your default yes ?
[01:05] <Gaming4JC> cool thanks nikosapi, I'll test it out now. :)
[01:05] <TiredWolf> PJ, then hold on a second.
[01:05] <Shpook> Not a problem, I just thought I might be off topic. :-)
[01:05] <Dein> glitsj16: yes, as soon as the problem occured
[01:05] <TiredWolf> PJ: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[01:06] <Flannel> Shpook: try #gtk-gnutella
[01:06] <TiredWolf> PJ: go into pool/, find what you need.
[01:06] <nikosapi> Gaming4JC: once you get that done you can ping the other box's IP to see if it works. Good luck ;)
[01:06] <sukuri> Hey, I found this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub to help me. However, I still have a question: At the step where it says: "setup (hd0)", however, in a previous step, I found "hd1" as the location for grub. Which should I use?
[01:06] <Guest3103> Flannel: Scunizi here under a different nic.. did you see my post above? can you help?
[01:06] <substrate> I know very little about the linux file system -- what is/are the typical location(s) for storing applications you've downloaded, like Firefox for instance?
[01:06] <Shpook> Flannel: Oh, I didn't realize they had a room. Will do, thanks. :-)
[01:06] <zeynep> selam
[01:07] <Bonster> any good place for cinelerra tutuorials?
[01:07] <Flannel> !fixres | Guest3103
[01:07] <PJ> thank you much thats what i was looking for.
[01:07] <Flannel> Guest3103: That wikipage solve it?
[01:07] <alraune> zyrorl: have an answer already ?
[01:07] <zyrorl> no
[01:07] <zyrorl> :(
[01:07] <obidiah> is that the famous PJ of Groklaw? If so, it's an honr
[01:07] <Guest3103> Flannel: I'm text based right now on TTY2 with no internet browser.. can't read it.
[01:08] <Blaqlight> does linx exist in ubuntu?
[01:08] <zyrorl> still hoping someone will help me, its pretty messed up:(, i dont want to lose all my files on the ubuntu file system, i can copy most of the ntfs by forcing to mount and then copying over smb or ftp back to my other pc
[01:08] <PJ> It is not.
[01:08] <PJ> thank you for the information.
[01:08] <wols> Blaqlight: packages.ubuntu.com will know
[01:08] <dblick> hhp2k: did you solve your problem? if no, what do you get when you do: wget -q -O - 'http://www.ubuntu.com/' | grep '<title>'
[01:08] <alraune> zyrorl: if you can force-mount via ubunru cd, you need an extra medium, e.g. usb-hd to backup your files
[01:08] <Guest3103> Flannel: I've dpkg'd the sys and tried to sudo xrandr -s 1366x768 with no results.
[01:09] <Blaqlight> wols I was asking in relation to Guest3103's text based system.
[01:09] <zyrorl> alraune - i could do that, but then how do i back up my ubuntu install...
[01:09] <Dein> glitsj16: so, i'm left with reinstalling the whoel gnome-desktop?
[01:09] <glitsj16> Dein: out of ideas on this one, i'm looking around in the forums .. keep stating the issue i'd say, someone knowledgeable with gnome will hopefully chime in
[01:09] <alraune> zyrorl: if you got a second pc, you could attach the hd from it to ypour messed machine for backup, much faster
[01:10] <jeeves__> is there a GNOME equiv of Amarok?
[01:10] <zyrorl> alraune - its a notebook.. so not easily
[01:10] <harpreet> jeeves__ xbuntu
[01:10] <swamptin> Is there a parameter I can add to the startup command that launches terminal to make it automatically maximised?
[01:10] <nikosapi> Can I include GPL v3 code in a GPL v2 (or later) project?
[01:10] <Dein> i've lost my gnome-panel after applying a faulty theme, and i cannot get it back, any ideas?
[01:10] <zeynep> hello
[01:10] <harpreet> jeeves__: edubuntu
[01:10] <jeeves__> harpreet, that's the name of the package?
[01:10] <GreenBlue> Alguien ha configurado AR5007EG para inyeccion arp????
[01:10] <chuy_max> jeeves__, rhythmbox
[01:10] <jeeves__> chuy_max, I need a media manager, etc
[01:11] <harpreet> jeeves__: its another OS that can be found in synaptic
[01:11] <wols> nikosapi: with a "or later" clause yes. the whole project is then GPL v3
[01:11] <alraune> zyrorl: I see, did you simply power off machine (cold shutdown) before problem occured ?
[01:11] <Blaqlight> jeeves__: also there is audacious
[01:11] <zyrorl> no
[01:11] <GreenBlue> Alguien ha configurado AR5007EG para inyeccion arp en 8.04 amd64??????
[01:11] <zyrorl> it was a normal reboot, clicked on power button, reboot... it rebooted and never game back
[01:11] <jeeves__> ok, a better question is if there is something that has a great media manager, and will let you search my artist, title, genere, etc
[01:11] <Guest3103> Flannel: sorry posted my question on the calif irc channel instead of here
[01:12] <nikosapi> wols: so then there's no point in using a GPL v2 (or later) license?
[01:12] <m0rbid> ok, when I went into grub, menu.lst looks correct, which its hd1,0, but when I select it to boot, it says Error 17, cannot mount selected partition.
[01:12] <harpreet> Jeeves__ yes serach in synaptic
[01:12] <jeeves__> Blaqlight, any other options?
[01:13] <Blaqlight> jeeves__: "great media manager" is subjective, check out rythembox, and audacious to start.
[01:13] <Hasone> hi, does anyone know what libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4 does? my clamAV tells me I have a bunch of broken copies of it.
[01:13] <jeeves__> Blaqlight, I've used both.  I don't like either of them.
[01:13] <chuy_max> jeeves__, noatun is versatile, has lots of plugins, give it a try
[01:13] <Dein> i've lost my gnome-panel after applying a faulty theme, and i cannot get it back, any ideas?
[01:13] <jeeves__> chuy_max, ok, thanks.  I'll have a look
[01:13] <harpreet> jeeves__: gnome-do-plugin-amarok
[01:13] <Flannel> nikosapi: that question is better off in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:13] <jeeves__> harpreet, ???
[01:14] <nikosapi> jeeves__: I'm really liking banshee 1.0 :)
[01:14] <alraune> zyrorl: just a moment, checking something..
[01:14] <nikosapi> Flannel: oh, ok sorry
[01:14] <Hasone> if no one knows what it is, does anybody know where I can find some graphics experts?
[01:14] <harpreet> jeeves__: its a plugin for gnome
[01:15] <jeeves__> nikosapi, ok, I'll give it a try.  I've takes a LOT of time to tag ALL 50Gb of my MP3s, so I'd like to be able to use everything that I've taged
[01:15] <Komplex> hi
[01:15] <Dein> i've lost my gnome-panel after applying a faulty theme, and i cannot get it back, any ideas?
[01:15] <chuy_max> Hasone, maybe #opengl
[01:15] <Hasone> chuy_max: thx
[01:16] <leal> hello all..
[01:16] <chuy_max> Hasone, oh, well, not for fglrx
[01:16] <j2> can anyone tell me what laptop i need to get to run hardy this old lattitude is about gone
[01:16] <leal> how can i know if the cxacru-fw.bin is loaded in gutsy?
[01:17] <Hasone_> chuy_max: my graphics in general are getting worse, so I'm also going to try #xorg. hopefully someone can figure this all out.
[01:17] <leal> there is no hotplug or the other binaries that did load the application before...
[01:17] <jeeves__> what does ".DCOPserver_" mean when I start armok?
[01:17] <Greyscale> is there a list of supported webcams?
[01:17] <wols> leal: dmesg
[01:17] <wols> !webcam
[01:17] <leal> wols: there is not message about load or not?
[01:17] <alraune> zyrorl: I just googeld ntfscheck, seems there is a poss. to check an ntfs system from live cd, want to giv it a try ?
[01:17] <chuy_max> j2, I run hardy on a P3 and it runs fine, I just installed extra memory for it to run ok, it has 512MB
[01:17] <leal> wols: i mean there is not.
[01:18] <Hasone_> I've got a question you might be able to answer:
[01:18] <Dein> i've lost my gnome-panel after applying a faulty theme, and i cannot get it back, any ideas?
[01:18] <chuy_max> j2, if you want gnome to run you need more than just 256MB
[01:18] <Hasone_> is there any way to determine which driver ubuntu uses by default for a specific graphics card?
[01:18] <leal> the cxacru driver is already in ubuntu, the firmware  must be in /lib/firmware/uname right?
[01:18] <chuy_max> j2, I mean, to run acceptably
[01:19] <wols> leal: uname is not a directory. uname probably was in backticks, that's important
[01:19] <chuy_max> Hasone_, that is specified in xorg.conf
[01:19] <zyrorl> i'll test that
[01:19] <wols> chuy_max: no
[01:19] <wols> Hasone_: built into X itself
[01:20] <CorbinFo1> hey all, i noticed when booting into windows today (for a stupid math class that requires windows, not even macs can use it! gasp!) that my sound is capable of going much louder in windows vs ubuntu.  any ideas on why this is and how to maybe increase my volume?
[01:21] <alraune> ﻿zyrorl : ?
[01:21] <Hasone_> chuy_max: okay.
[01:21] <Hasone_> I think something may have fiddled with my xorg.conf. is there any way to reset it to factory settings?
[01:21] <nikinzoran> Hello. I am new to Ubuntu. Everything is working well except f-spot who is not opening and not importing images at all. How can I make it work? Or how can I make Ubuntu to recognize my camera as a masssive storage device? Thank you.
[01:21] <overlordpuppy> ﻿I've got a series of PNG images. How do I make them into an mpeg video with the same quality?
[01:21] <Dein> i've lost my gnome-panel after applying a faulty theme, and i cannot get it back, any ideas?
[01:22] <wols> Dein: create a new gnome config
[01:22] <clayg> how do i see a list of programs that start when ubuntu does?
[01:22] <Dein> wols: how?
[01:22] <clayg> i went to system>admin>services but didn't see the google desktop search (which slows me computer down from starting)
[01:23] <wols> by moving or deleting the gnome dotfiles in your .
[01:23] <wols> in your ~ rather
[01:23] <Bonster> clayg: sys>pref>session
[01:23] <Dein> wols: i've moved the panel files already, didn't help
[01:23] <wols> I didn't say anything about panel files
[01:23] <wols> and uninstall the faulty theme of course
[01:24] <clayg> Bonster,  you da man now dog!
[01:24] <clayg> thanks alot
[01:25] <Slurb> anyone know how to get the side scroll to work on a microsoft wireless laser mouse 6000
[01:25] <Flannel> !mouse | Slurb
[01:25] <Slurb> i got everything working besides that
[01:25] <Slurb> doesnt work
[01:25] <Slurb> tried it
[01:26] <derekS> any one know why i get this error when untarring something on a mounted cifs drive: Cannot change ownership to uid 111409, gid 42549: Permission denied
[01:26] <Slurb> xmodmap says it has 32 buttons
[01:26] <guido> whenever I try to restart, kdm just hangs in there and I can only restart after pressing ctrl-alt-backspace... any thoughts here?
[01:26] <SergeantPony> anyone here good at figuring out sound issues? My sound is running very flaky, won't play audio cd's or dvd. Here's my info http://pastebin.ca/1083900
[01:26] <Dein> wols: so what files should i move?
[01:27] <Slurb> !mouse
[01:27] <inavat> hi.. I'm trying to get svideo out.  I have a mobility x1400.  I run the "ATI Catalyst Control Center", which is supposed to auto-detect the svideo out as a second display, but it doesn't
[01:28] <Slurb> inavat plug something into it first
[01:28] <inavat> my tv is plugged into it
[01:28] <zyrorl> alraune - i managed to mount the ubuntu image as a loopdisk so i'm going to just copy the fs over to my other pc and reformat, and a few other vista folders from the ntfs partition
[01:28] <Slurb> see if that helps
[01:28] <obidiah> inavat
[01:28] <zyrorl> guess nuking it will just be easier
[01:28] <alraune> ﻿SergeantPony: did you install neccessary codecs ?
[01:28] <inavat> yes obidiah?
[01:28] <obidiah> inavat: make sure the tv is on before you start the computer from a cold boot. the s-video is a dumb peripherial
[01:28] <alraune> zyrorl: I just googeld ntfscheck, seems there is a poss. to check an ntfs system from live cd, want to giv it a try ?
[01:29] <SergeantPony> alraune, yes I did
[01:29] <inavat> from a cold boot?  alright.. here goes.  hopefully i won't be back in five minutes :)
[01:29] <zyrorl> i'll try it but yeah
[01:29] <zyrorl> we'll see
[01:29] <alraune> ﻿SergeantPony: can you play any sound at all ?
[01:29] <SergeantPony> alraune: it worked fine before the upgrade to 8.04
[01:29] <miraage> ufw question: i just enabled NAT table rules for MASQUERADE packets for internet connection sharing, and now i get ERROR: problem running init script when I execute sudo ufw enable
[01:29] <tim_ubuntu> I have a problem, when i try to put my laptop in suspend, it locks up at a black command screen.
[01:30] <SergeantPony> alraune: it's hit or miss... most of the time no sound after I log in
[01:30] <miraage> (as per serverguide firewall)
[01:31] <mbrigdan> anyone know what could be causing the default unzip thing to be dropping the directory structure of the files I unzip? Its *really* annoying.
[01:31] <alraune> ﻿SergeantPony: what kind of machine is it ?
[01:31] <SergeantPony> alraune: Toshiba Satellite laptop
[01:31] <Dein_> glitsj16: umm, i've restarted the whole computer, not just ctrl-alt-del and it's workin now :|
[01:31] <Dein_> glitsj16: i thought that restarting was a windows method :P
[01:32] <glitsj16> Dein: lol .. glad you got that fixed nonetheless
[01:32] <crimsun> SergeantPony: mv ~/.asoundrc ~/.asoundrc.bak
[01:32] <alraune> ﻿SergeantPony: did you check the alsamixer for mute and volume ?
[01:32] <SergeantPony> alraune: no alsamixer and it won't let me reinstall it
[01:32] <tim_ubuntu> Hello, When i use ctrl alt backspace, it no longer reloads, before it loads the screen stays black and a white rectangle is in the top left screen, large. what might be going on? thanks
[01:33] <mercutio22> Hello, is there someone here who uses ImageJ?
[01:33] <guido> whenever I try to restart, kdm just hangs in there and I can only restart after pressing ctrl-alt-backspace... any thoughts here?
[01:34] <Blaqlight> Flannel: thanks for the mouse howto, I was wondering how to get this other button (back button in windows) working.
[01:34] <SergeantPony> crimsun: no /.asoundrc file
[01:34] <Flannel> Blaqlight: On your mouse?
[01:34] <crimsun> SergeantPony: ~/.asoundrc
[01:35] <jeeves__> can anyone reccomend a good MP3 normilizer?
[01:35] <Blaqlight> Flannel: yeah its got this "extra" button, supposed to work like back in browser in windows, it nevered it ubuntu.
[01:35] <linduxed> is there anyone here who's tried out the freerunner
[01:35] <linduxed> ?
[01:35] <Flannel> Blaqlight: And the ManyButtonMouse stuff doesn't work?
[01:35] <SergeantPony> crimsun: mv: cannot stat `/home/richringer/.asoundrc': No such file or directory
[01:36] <Blaqlight> Flannel: haven't tried, Im reading up on it now.
[01:36] <SergeantPony> crimsun: I did a cut and paste of your mv command
[01:36] <Flannel> Blaqlight: Its unlikely it wont solve your problem
[01:36] <inavat> well.. svideo worked when I had the cord plugged directly into the tv.  It didn't work, however, when I had it plugged into an AV hub which then has a composite outpu tto the tv
[01:36] <alraune> ﻿SergeantPony:
[01:36] <alraune> sudo apt-get install alsa-base	alsa-firmware-loaders	alsa-oss alsa-source alsa-tools	alsa-tools-gui alsa-utils alsamixergui	
[01:36] <alraune> doesn't work ?
[01:37] <crimsun> SergeantPony: can you remove the model=auto in your modprobe conffile?
[01:37] <susanna777> does any use myth tv?
[01:37] <alraune> sudo apt-get install alsa-base	alsa-firmware-loaders	alsa-oss alsa-source s	alsa-tools-gui alsa-utils alsamixergui	
[01:37] <obidiah> inavat: it is a very primitive hardware handshake, as bad as a parallel printer
[01:37] <inavat> is there some way to force the svideo signal out of the port?  I don't really get what's going on... is the svideo protocal multidirectional or something?  how's it know if something's plugged in?
[01:37] <Falc> Hello, I'
[01:37] <alraune> ﻿susanna777: did before , but prefer tvtime
[01:37] <MaR> i have the poblem with ACPI support in ubuntu, everytime i boot the system i got message: "no DMI BIOS year, acpi=force is requaired to enable ACPI", when i force to load ACPI the system not booting, i have Fujitsu-Siemens D1107 motherboard, on Windows XP, Mandriva everything works fine (suspend-to-RAM, hibernate) sorry for my english
[01:38] <obidiah> inavat: now that you've stated with the tv, try switching the wire back to the av hub and see if it works now
[01:38] <susanna777> alraune, okay does tv time or myth tv display closed captions
[01:38] <SergeantPony> crimsun: 1 sec
[01:39] <Falc> Hello, I'm trying to get my sound working correctly in Ubuntu on my EeePC. However, every now and again I cannot hear anything or set the volume. This is due to Ubuntu "switching" to snd_pcsp as opposed to snd_hda-intel. The forum search I did pointed me to blacklisting snd-pcsp. But I can
[01:39] <Falc> 't find outhow to do it.
[01:39] <SergeantPony> alraune: it updated some of the files
[01:39] <obidiah> inavat: deep in the bowels of the video driver you can force it on
[01:39] <alraune> ﻿SergeantPony: sudo apt-get update  ....
[01:39] <inavat> well I tried that.  the problem is it's two different tvs.  One, which has a screwed up image, has an svideo-in.  The other, which works fine, doesn't have svideo in, so I wanted to use the AV hub.  So I booted ubuntu with it connected to the broken PC.. then unplugged and ran to the other tv and plugged it into the AV hub
[01:39] <inavat> it didn't work
[01:40] <SergeantPony> alraune: still get the alsamixer not found error
[01:40] <obidiah> inavat: at radio shack they sell a $15 adapter that converts s-video to rca video out
[01:40] <tabber> hi, i need helo setting a cron job. I want the command to be run every 3 minutes until the end of today(saturday 26) will this setup do that? */3 * 26 8 /path/to/command
[01:40] <inavat> well I assumed that would be the exact same thing as what the dumb AV hub is doing
[01:40] <MaR> anydoby help me plz
[01:40] <tabber> hi, i need helo setting a cron job. I want the command to be run every 3 minutes until the end of today(saturday 26) will this setup do that? */3 * 26 8 6 /path/to/command
[01:40] <MaR> i have the poblem with ACPI support in ubuntu, everytime i boot the system i got message: "no DMI BIOS year, acpi=force is requaired to enable ACPI", when i force to load ACPI the system not booting, i have Fujitsu-Siemens D1107 motherboard, on Windows XP, Mandriva everything works fine (suspend-to-RAM, hibernate) sorry for my englis
[01:41] <glitsj16> Falc: any modules you want blacklisted you need to add to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist manually
[01:41] <Blaqlight> !anyone | MaR
[01:41] <alraune> ﻿SergeantPony: but can find the tab under apps>multimedia ???
[01:41] <obidiah> inavat: it's how I solved it with an old dell inspiron notebook
[01:41] <alraune> ﻿susanna777: what do you mean with captions ?
[01:41] <miraage> does ufw work for NAT ip forwarding?
[01:41] <Falc> Awesome! How do I add snd_pcsp? Just that? snd_pcsp?, glitsj16?
[01:41] <inavat> alright, maybe i'll try it.  thanks obidiah
[01:41] <Mecha25> MaR, what is your native language?
[01:41] <tabber> hi, i need helo setting a cron job. I want the command to be run every 3 minutes until the end of today(saturday 26) will this setup do that? */3 * 26 8 6 /path/to/command anyone please :(
[01:42] <MaR> polish
[01:42] <Mecha25> anybody know what the polish #ubuntu is?
[01:42] <susanna777> alraune, i'm hard of hearing and i want to watch tv on my computer with the captions
[01:42] <glitsj16> Falc: use the format "blaclist <module name>" yes
[01:42] <Mecha25> try #ubuntu-pl
[01:42] <Blaqlight> !polish
[01:42] <SergeantPony> alraune: alsamixergui don't load
[01:42] <Falc> glitsj16, thank you. :>
[01:42] <Mecha25> MaR, that help?
[01:42] <glitsj16> Falc: typo .. blacklist
[01:42] <glitsj16> np
[01:42] <Falc> :>
[01:43] <mbrigdan> anyone know what could be causing the default unzip thing to be dropping the directory structure of the files I unzip? Its *really* annoying.
[01:43] <Falc> ano
[01:43] <Flannel> tabber: yes.  and please don't repeat so often
[01:43] <alraune> ﻿susanna777:  see , undertitel, I'll check, brb
[01:43] <Blaqlight> mbrigdan: in archive manager there is a checkbox to retain directory structure, check it.
[01:43] <MaR> mecha25 i tried and i not get the answer
[01:43] <SergeantPony> alraune: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory
[01:44] <alraune> ﻿SergeantPony: so you got a problem with the driver then
[01:44] <Mecha25> MaR: I don't know about ACPI, sorry
[01:44] <guido> how can I tell if there's a br0 error?
[01:44] <crimsun> SergeantPony: did you reboot after making the modprobe conffile change?
[01:44] <Flannel> tabber: wait.  No it won't.  That'll run in August.
[01:44] <mbrigdan> Blaqlight: hmm, don't seem to see it, which menu is it under?
[01:45] <truebosko> Hi there .. I am trying to configur my monitors (dual display) and I've followed numeruos guides with no luck. I just recently updated Ubuntu after a ~5 month hiatus. Has anything changed in the dual screen front?
[01:45] <Blaqlight> it should be on the extract dialog
[01:45] <Mecha25> truebosko: depends, what graphics card do you have?
[01:45] <truebosko> an amd
[01:45] <MaR> mecha25: ok, i keep searching
[01:45] <Blaqlight> sorry mbrigdan : it should be on the extract dialog
[01:45] <tabber> Flannel: thank you. true, so it doesn't matter it the last command runs at 11.58, it doesn't need to be "complete cycle" for it to stop executing right?
[01:45] <truebosko> I've noticed more people have trouble with ATI cards
[01:46] <mbrigdan> Blaqlight: yup, recreate folders. I think... Thanks
[01:46] <truebosko> Sorry, meant to say ATI :)
[01:46] <Flannel> tabber: cron starts jobs, after that they're on their own
[01:46] <Blaqlight> mbrigdan: thats it.
[01:46] <Mecha25> truebosko: good luck.  I'm on ATI, I have dual monitors working, but it took me 3 solid weeks and quite literally breaking my xorg.conf to do it
[01:46] <truebosko> haha
[01:46] <truebosko> :/
[01:46] <Blaqlight> mbrigdan: just for reference was it checked before?
[01:46] <truebosko> ...Share your xorg? :p
[01:46] <tabber> Flannel: thanks, i hope it works. otherwise my server will go to hell :P
[01:47] <truebosko> I have two LCD's, one is bigger then the other (wide screen) .. if atleast for now I could get the resolutions correct (right now the widescreen is kind of wonky) then that'll work until I get dual working
[01:47] <abbazabba> silly question guys, i currently can't get onto ubuntu, and i'm trying to back up all my files through the live cd, however it is saying i do not have read permission, is there any way i could get it?
[01:47] <SergeantPony> crimsun: take out this? : options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[01:47] <mbrigdan> Blaqlight: Well, it was working before, then it stopped, but I didn't change it (I didn't even know the option was there) the default might have changed in an update or something
[01:48] <crimsun> SergeantPony: or comment it out, yes.
[01:48] <Blaqlight> mbrigdan: was it checked when you saw it just then? yes or no?
[01:48] <inavat> obidiah: with the radioshack converter, you still need to cold-reboot right?
[01:48] <Mecha25> truebosko: I can give you my xorg, but part of the config is in the Catalyst Control center, and you have to reset the thing every boot.  Plus, it only works with one orientation, and with 1280x800 + 1280x1024 resolutions
[01:48] <alraune> ﻿SergeantPony: rturn from :  modprobe -l | grep snd | grep pci
[01:49] <Mecha25> truebosko: to be perfectly honest, I'm STILL not sure how I got it working
[01:49] <truebosko> Mecha25, ah well then it's probably best you not share and confuse me
[01:49] <truebosko> haha
[01:49] <truebosko> So you're using which drivers?
[01:49] <alraune> sudo ﻿SergeantPony: apt-get install hwinfo, pastebin output from hwinfo
[01:49] <Mecha25> the restricted ones, the ones that do 3d well
[01:49] <AMLNXUSR> Hello, I'm trying to get mac like widgets on ubuntu 8.04 any one know how i can do this?
[01:49] <inavat> oh
[01:49] <truebosko> Cause I tried using the other ones...err can't remember name atm, but they made my card constantly run the fan even with nothing happening so that kind of sucked
[01:49] <Zikey> Hi, is there any way to list the files that will be installed through an apt-get install <package> (without installing it)
[01:49] <Mecha25> amlnxusr: you can use either gDesklets (it's in Add/Remove programs), or screenlets
[01:50] <inavat> obidiah: believe it or not, I just tried one of those converters (I searched through my electronics junk drawer) and it worked!
[01:50] <Mecha25> truebosko: envy?
[01:50] <obidiah> inavat yes
[01:50] <truebosko> Nah..started with an 'f'
[01:50] <inavat> obidiah: only thing is, the tv output has no color
[01:50] <truebosko> (that's helpful eh?)
[01:50] <abbazabba> does anyone know the code to move something through terminal?
[01:50] <alraune> ﻿susanna777:  in the prefrences of tvtime I could't find any option for that, now installing mythtv..
[01:50] <AMLNXUSR> Mecha25, which one do you suggest?
[01:50] <Blaqlight> AMLNXUSR: you can also use adesklets
[01:50] <Mecha25> truebosko: fglrx?
[01:50] <truebosko> Yup..that's it
[01:50] <MaR>  i have the poblem with ACPI support in ubuntu, everytime i boot the system i got message: "no DMI BIOS year, acpi=force is requaired to enable ACPI", when i force to load ACPI the system not booting, i have Fujitsu-Siemens D1107 motherboard, on Windows XP, Mandriva everything works fine (suspend-to-RAM, hibernate) sorry for my english
[01:50] <blue112> Hello everyone, is there a packet editor on linux (like Wpe pro on windows) ?
[01:50] <alraune> ﻿ abbazabba: yep
[01:50] <obidiah> inavat: you should only be sending 16k color
[01:50] <Mecha25> amlnxusr: personally I don't use them, I use conky
[01:51] <abbazabba> alraune: is it something like sudo mv blah blah blah to blahblah blah?
[01:51] <tim167> should i make an ext2 or ext3 partition on my harddisk  ? (gparted suggests ext2 by default )
[01:51] <AMLNXUSR> whats conky?
[01:51] <alraune> ﻿ abbazabba: yep
[01:51] <susanna777> alraune, thanks
[01:51] <glitsj16> Zikey: add the "-s" switch to your apt-get to make a dry run
[01:51] <Blaqlight> AMLNXUSR: type apt-cache show conky in a terminal.
[01:51] <obidiah> inavat: weird about the bw, I didn't get that. have you thought about running xconfig again (back up your original xorg.conf file first!)
[01:52] <Blaqlight> AMLNXUSR: it will explain it all to you.
[01:52] <Zikey> glitsj16: unfortunately it doesn't list the files of the package :(
[01:52] <AMLNXUSR> k
[01:52] <inavat> run it now that I have the tv plugged into it?  you think it might autodetect it?
[01:52] <bsmus> anyone here knowledgeable in UFW?
[01:52] <abbazabba> alraune: alright last question, if i want to move something from my desktop, to a usb, how would i go about that?
[01:52] <lampliter> looking for packages on 6.06 that contains fonts mapping to  "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*"  a
[01:52] <obidiah> inavat: yes
[01:52] <obidiah> backup your xorg.conf first!!!!
[01:52] <lampliter> any suggestions?
[01:52] <enno_> bsmus: please ask your question
[01:53] <Blaqlight> AMLNXUSR: that really goes for any package that you know the name of.
[01:53] <inavat> obidiah: well taht wipes out my fglrx install (which I installed using EnvyNG).  Maybe I should try running Envy again?   Or i guess I could do xconfig again, and then envy again
[01:53] <blue112> Is there a packet editor on linux (like Wpe pro on windows) ?
[01:53] <bsmus> i've closely followed the server howto about setting up UFW for NAT masquerading. but now when i run sudo ufw enable, i get ERROR: problem running init scripts
[01:53] <obidiah> inavat: the second thing
[01:53] <bsmus> enno_: ever seen that?
[01:54] <truebosko> What is the best way to see if I have an app installed?
[01:54] <AMLNXUSR> blaqlight, what do you mean?
[01:54] <inavat> obidiah: okay, thanks for your help.  I'll try it.  see ya
[01:54] <obidiah> inavat: gl
[01:54] <enno_> bsmus: sry no, i thought you would mean an easier question ;)
[01:54] <alraune> ﻿ abbazabba: sudo mv  /home/<user>/Desktop/<filename>    /dev/sdx/
[01:54] <glitsj16> Zikey: i believe the package "apt-file" lists the contents of a package without installing or fetching it, not sure
[01:54] <TiredWolf> yes it does
[01:54] <Blaqlight> AMLNXUSR: to get detailed information on a package type apt-cache show packagename into a terminal for a rundown.
[01:54] <nickrud> !info apt-file
[01:55] <AMLNXUSR> oh ok
[01:55] <bsmus> hrm k
[01:55] <obidiah> truebosco: System | Administration | Synaptic Package Manager
[01:55] <Blaqlight> AMLNXUSR: you might also want to apt-cache -help to get a feature list of other nice things apt-cache can do.
[01:55] <Zikey> glitsj16: trying :)
[01:55] <keri> i need some help
[01:56] <blue112> Is there a packet editor on linux (like Wpe pro on windows) ?
[01:56] <R0b0t1> Wireshark, maybe?
[01:56] <blue112> No, wireshark is read-only :)
[01:56] <blue112> I want to edit packets ^^'
[01:56] <simula> does anyone have an opinion on the best video card for ubuntu / kde4 (x86)?
[01:57] <R0b0t1> Ah
[01:57] <simula> i'm swapping out the guts of my main box
[01:57] <ahmadnfmabelle> helo
[01:57] <Blaqlight> R0b0t1: isn't wireshark a packet sniffer as opposed to an editor?
[01:57] <enno_> simula: nvidia runs nice for me
[01:57] <R0b0t1> Yeah.
[01:57] <R0b0t1> I'm having problems finding a GNOME theme to my liking, does anyone have suggestions?
[01:57] <Blaqlight> R0b0t1: checked out gnome-look.org?
[01:57] <lampliter> blue112: check out netcat
[01:57] <R0b0t1> Blaqlight: Thats where I was looking :D
[01:58] <Blaqlight> R0b0t1: freshmeat.net has tons more.
[01:58] <blue112> lampliter: Thank's, i take a look.
[01:58] <simula> thanks enno_
[01:58] <enno_> R0b0t1: http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23/
[01:58] <R0b0t1> enno_ Thanks, I personally dualboot with OSX
[01:59] <blue112> lampliter: Do you know how it works ? It's CLI I guess >_<
[01:59] <enno_> R0b0t1: that customization is quite awesome i think
[01:59] <lampliter> yup cli
[02:00] <blue112> Do you have a tutorial or somethink more clear that the man page ^^' ?
[02:00] <blue112> something*
[02:00] <cxo> How do you net-install ubuntu 8?
[02:00] <lampliter> blue112: looking
[02:00] <cxo> there used to be a netboot image, but its not longer on the disc
[02:01] <alraune> cxo: get the net install cd n bott...
[02:01] <cxo> s/not/no
[02:01] <nickrud> !minimal | cxo
[02:01] <cxo> oh that's a separate disc
[02:01] <alraune> cxo:yup
[02:01] <cxo> i need to netboot the box,
[02:01] <keri> ok i got a message on my laptop this morning and this is what it said
[02:01] <cxo> cos the cdrom doesnt work
[02:01] <keri> http://pastebin.com/m37cafb18
[02:01] <lampliter> blue112: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netcat
[02:01] <Flannel> cxo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20without%20a%20CD
[02:01] <Jorophose> is hardy conflicting with some older BIOSs a general linux problem or just for hardy?
[02:01] <cxo> does the alternate cd have a pxe image?
[02:02] <alraune> cxo: what a pc, checked the cd for defects ?
[02:02] <cxo> alraune, nah my laptop's cdrom drive is buggered
[02:02] <nickrud> !install | cxo (not sure if pxe is covered there, but most likely)
[02:02] <nickrud> what!!
[02:02] <keri> i  think  it  may hae to do with my bios  i re installed ubuntu and the message went, but  i don't want it in  the future.  so  can it be prevented?
[02:02] <enno_> cxo: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[02:03] <blue112> lampliter: Thank you for this page, but that doesn't explain me the way to use it as I want (packet editor)
[02:03] <alraune> cxo: c, could try net install, though you first need a proved burn of the - whatever - installer cd
[02:03] <instabin> Im trying to get my wifes game to work under wine... they are from yahoo.. its called sallys spaw
[02:03] <instabin> Im trying to get my wifes game to work under wine... they are from yahoo.. its called sallys spa
[02:03] <Blaqlight> uh oh.
[02:04] <lampliter> blue112: http://linuxgazette.net/issue74/zhaoway.html
[02:04] <alraune> sudo ﻿SergeantPony: fixed it ?
[02:04] <cxo> enno_, thanks, they have a link to a pxe image on that site, i'll try it out
[02:04] <Blaqlight> instabin: most games from there use java, is java installed?
[02:04] <SebNaitsabes> instabin:  try #winehq
[02:04] <nickrud> !install
[02:04] <instabin> Blaqlight its not ill try that
[02:04] <Flannel> nickrud: http://jussi01.com/web/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=added%20DESC&page=0
[02:04] <bsmus> any firewall experts? seriously screwed here
[02:05] <SebNaitsabes> bsmus: what's the issue?
[02:05] <enno_> cxo: should work for x86, don't know if its possible for amd64
[02:05] <bsmus> SebNaitsabes: ufw masquerading
[02:05] <lampliter> blue112: I'm not sure how to use it as an editor except and to read in a packet, alter it with an editor such as Emacs or a hex editor and then spit it out again
[02:05] <bsmus> SebNaitsabes: following the howto i get an ERROR when i ufw enable
[02:06] <Zikey> glitsj16: perfect apt-file is what I was looking for, thx a lot !
[02:06] <cxo> enno_, my laptop is a centrino, so it should work
[02:06] <whta> how can i remove a hard drive icon from my desktop without unmounting the drive?
[02:06] <enno_> cxo: okay ;D
[02:06] <glitsj16> Zikey: np :)
[02:06] <stodge> Wow - anyone get sound working in Firefox 3 on youtube?
[02:06] <blue112> lampliter: Hum, I'm going to search for make it work, thanks :)
[02:06] <crimsun> stodge: sure, what's the issue?  randomly inaudible?
[02:06] <enno_> stodge: you need to install libflashsupport from the repos
[02:06] <stodge> no sound at all..
[02:07] <alraune> whta: right click on desktop, configure workspace/behavoir
[02:07] <lordleemo> blue112:  netcat nemessis hping hping2 yersinia scapy and many many more dude...  google and learn
[02:07] <crimsun> stodge: are you using 32- or 64-bit ?
[02:07] <enno_> stodge: should help if you are using pulseaudio
[02:07] <stodge> 32
[02:07] <susanna777> SebNaitsabes, hi
[02:07] <bw> hello
[02:07] <crimsun> stodge: I'll walk you through the fix in #ubuntu-audio-help
[02:08] <whta> alraune: maybe i'm doing it wrong, but right clicking the desktop gives me no such option
[02:08] <stodge> ok thanks
[02:08] <jc6> how to run yahoo messenger using wine
[02:09] <enno_> cxo: btw it's also possible for amd64 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-amd64/20070308ubuntu40.4/images/netboot/
[02:09] <instabin> Blaqlight : i installed java but that didnt fix it
[02:09] <cxo> they should put the netboot folder back on the disc
[02:09] <Blaqlight> instabin: which java version did you install?
[02:10] <instabin> Blaqlight: the newest one just downloaded it
[02:11] <Harley^> Hello
[02:11] <overlordpuppy> ﻿I've got a series of PNG images. How do I make them into an mpeg video with the same quality?
[02:12] <alraun1> whta: sry, had to log off for a moment, got it
[02:12] <TiredWolf> overlordpuppy: you don't
[02:12] <TiredWolf> overlordpuppy: mpeg is a lossy format, png is not
[02:13] <Harley^> This morning, JACK Control in Ubuntu ran perfectly, I turned off my computer and now it won't start. Another user helped earlier and had me change the order of the somethingorother.ko's  can someone help please ?
[02:13] <mrpockets> Just installed Ubuntu on my laptop. How do i get dual view monitors when using the VGA out on my laptop?
[02:13] <crimsun> Harley^: what error is qjackctl giving?
[02:13] <nickrud> !dualmonitors | mrpockets (might help)
[02:13] <nickrud> !dualmonitor | mrpockets (might help)
[02:14] <Harley^> crimsun: Yes ! Its YOU !
[02:14] <TiredWolf> nickrud: dual monitor, dual factoid
[02:14] <nickrud> TiredWolf I might alias that, I think dual implies plural ;)
[02:15] <TiredWolf> nickrud: nah, or it'd be called "two monitors". but, alias away :P
[02:15] <krazy-h> Can somebody help me please
[02:16] <krazy-h> I have a problem with yasr
[02:16] <bartek> Does anyone know what repo I need to get BitchX?
[02:16] <CheeseGardener> Could someone here give me a hand choosing a power supply for my dual boot system?
[02:16] <bartek> everone says "universe" but I have a bunch of universe entries in my sources.list so that makes no sense to me
[02:16] <Flannel> bartek: BitchX is abandonware.  It isn't in a repo.
[02:16] <bartek> Ah
[02:16] <Jadewolf> Guys, would ubuntu be a good OS for using to install on a P1-233MMX laptop with 64mb ram a webcam? I'm trying to setup a commandline "security" camera with it.
[02:16] <bartek> ok..I need a good irc client then :-)
[02:17] <Flannel> bartek: Try irssi
[02:17] <RatKingX> try pidgin
[02:17] <soldats> bartek: irssi is superior to bitchx
[02:17] <soldats> its cli as well
[02:17] <bartek> ya I heard good things about irssi
[02:17] <TiredWolf> bartek, there are four main repositories: 1) hardy, the main one 2) hardy-updates, bugfixes 3) hardy-security, security fixes
[02:17] <soldats> give it a shot you may like it
[02:17] <bartek> Oh I see
[02:17] <TiredWolf> bartek: then Main, Restricted, Universe and Multiverse are *components*
[02:17] <bartek> Components meaning?
[02:17] <TiredWolf> bartek: for each component you want enabled, you should have all three repositories
[02:17] <TiredWolf> bartek: it means it's a part of a repository
[02:18] <bartek> I see
[02:18] <CheeseGardener> If anyone could, I need some help choosing a power supply for my dual boot system
[02:18] <ludwig> hey all, any body get the gtx260 nvidia card working from any stock repository
[02:18] <CheeseGardener> O dpm
[02:18] <TiredWolf> bartek: in other words, if you have Universe only enabled in the "hardy" repository, but not in the "hardy-updates" repository, then you won't get bugfixes for Universe packages
[02:18] <CheeseGardener> I don't use the GTX 200 series ludwig
[02:18] <RatKingX> CheeseGardener: what hardware do you have?
[02:18] <bazhang> #hardware CheeseGardener
[02:18] <Flannel> CheeseGardener: #ubuntu-offtopic would be the appropriate place
[02:18] <CheeseGardener> it is a waste of money
[02:18] <CheeseGardener> I use 2 ATI HD 4850s Crossfire
[02:18] <TiredWolf> bartek: so as a rule of thumb, you should have every needed component enabled in every repository, and that's why you see Universe in many places
[02:18] <miranda> okay this is another question related to the computer that I am working with...
[02:19] <enno_> CheeseGardener: http://web.aanet.com.au/SnooP/psucalc.php
[02:19] <bartek> Thanks TiredWolf , glad to know what it means now
[02:19] <CheeseGardener> Ok, off topic then?
[02:19] <miranda> it says that I have 3000MB and that I need 5000MB
[02:19] <alraun1> ﻿Jadewolf: PI ? not really, a PIII is very cheap at ebay nowadays...  | give additional 64 MB, try win 98, lol
[02:19] <ludwig> serisouly...anybody get the new nvidia 200 serious cards working with a default ubuntu package
[02:20] <bazhang> Jadewolf, that amount of ram really is too minimal unless you want a cli only system
[02:20] <ludwig> i've googled till i'm out of ideas on google bait
[02:20] <hsandhu> fuddi kidaan maaridi aa?
[02:20] <bazhang> hsandhu, english please
[02:20] <hsandhu> bazhang: sorry
[02:21] <chao1> ﻿I am trying to mount a hdd that I guess is about to fail. is there a way to mount it to view a corrupted ext2 partition. (a mess I know)
[02:21] <miranda> is there a version of ubuntu where I can install with less memory because I am deleting all of the files to make more memory
[02:21] <chao1> miranda try xubuntu
[02:21] <soldats> xubuntu
[02:21] <Ximal> xubuntu mm iranda
[02:21] <miranda> chao1: thanks
[02:22] <TiredWolf> chao1, well, i guess mount it read only, for a start... you don't really want to write on it if it's failing
[02:22] <chao1> welcome
[02:22] <bazhang> miranda, how little ram we talking
[02:22] <chao1> how do I do that?
[02:22] <miranda> IIRC 64 MB bazhang
[02:22] <TiredWolf> chao1: sudo mount /dev/whatever /mnt/whatever -o ro - i believe
[02:22] <chao1> I tried reading the man entry but those are still hard to understand
[02:22] <Blaqlight> the wine gecko installer won't install gecko, WoW keeps asking for it on load, how can I force it too finish the download?
[02:22] <bartek> woah
[02:23] <bartek> irssi is interesting :)
[02:23] <lnxmad> Hows Ubuntu coming on the ps3?
[02:23] <chao1> ok i will try now
[02:23] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ps3
[02:23] <miranda> does xubuntu work as well as ubuntu?
[02:23] <lnxmad> thanks
[02:23] <Blaqlight> bartek: its awesome once you get used to it... < former xchat user
[02:24] <bazhang> miranda, 64mb may not do it; fluxbuntu perhaps but even that is a stretch
[02:24] <Blaqlight> miranda: prolly a little faster, being as though xfce uses less rescources than gnome.
[02:24] <bartek> Blaqlight: oh I bet...I remember loading up VIM for the first time and being very confused. Now I swear by it, this seems like the same thing
[02:24] <bazhang> lots of gtk stuff in xubuntu though
[02:24] <miranda> bazhang: I am updating from windows 98
[02:24] <Blaqlight> bartek: Im still lost in vim.
[02:25] <chao1> this is what it put on screen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30726/
[02:26] <chao1> ... and its /media/whatever instead of /mnt/whatever for those taking notes (in ubuntu)
[02:26] <TiredWolf> chao1: well, actually, it's wherever there is a valid directory :) but yeah, it's supposed to be /media
[02:27] <enno_> Blaqlight: get the gecko cab file from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241&package_id=195269 and extract it using cabextract to .wine/drive_c/Program Files/
[02:27] <chao1> yeah :)
[02:27] <TiredWolf> chao1: try forcing ext2 by adding the "-t ext2" option. but if it can't understand it's an ext2 partition... tough luck i'm afraid
[02:27] <piratelordx> can anyone help me in pm im tryin to run internet explorer 7 through wine
[02:28] <TiredWolf> chao1, what you should do, really, is take an image of that drive into another drive, and then work on the image
[02:28] <swamptin> right, stoopid question, and I'm assuming you can, but... a lot of advice I've gotten has been like "<command> && <command>" in relation to installs etc. etc. Can you que up any sort/number/variation of commands in that way and let it run?
[02:28] <Blaqlight> enno_: it gets about 1/3rd of the way through and then mysteriously and without warning, dies.
[02:28] <bazhang> piratelordx, check #winehq and appdb
[02:28] <obidiah> miranda: is your problem a shortage of RAM or a shortage of hard drive space
[02:28] <bazhang> !appdb | piratelordx
[02:28] <piratelordx> kk
[02:28] <soldats> miranda: honestly as much as i hate to say it, you may need a different distro capable of handling little ram that you have. you may be able to try xubuntu with someting even smaller than fluxbox. possibly xubuntu with DWM may work. youll need some time to get DWm to work for you though
[02:28] <piratelordx> thankd
[02:28] <bazhang> np
[02:28] <enno_> Blaqlight: try the cab file, it is the same thing wine does, just manually
[02:29] <user1>  what are the ways to install a .deb ?  i cant install it with gdebi ?
[02:29] <TiredWolf> user1: yes you can, if it's an Ubuntu .deb
[02:29] <Blaqlight> miranda: 64mb ram is all you have?
[02:29] <bazhang> user1, what deb
[02:29] <miranda> so d/l xubuntu right...that handles 64MB of ram?
[02:29] <tim167> hello, i can't play a DVD movie, i installed libxine, gsreamer plugins and whatnot, but still no luck, can someone help me ? thanks
[02:29] <TiredWolf> miranda: still a bit tight i'd say
[02:29] <Blaqlight> miranda: you might just consider no gui at all. CLI only is fun.
[02:29] <soldats> there really isnt an ubuntu that handles such low ram
[02:29] <user1> TiredWolf:  bazhang is an ubuntu deb. but its it vanishes in the middle.  limewire it is.
[02:29] <bazhang> miranda, no
[02:29] <TiredWolf> !limewire | user1
[02:29] <soldats> the lowest wanted ram i think is 128
[02:30] <_Zeus_> what is ubotu?
[02:30] <_Zeus_> doesn't work here
[02:30] <bazhang> a bot
[02:30] <soldats> a bot
[02:30] <TiredWolf> !bot > _Zeus_
[02:30] <obidiah> miranda: xubuntu is your best bet for a real distribution
[02:30] <_Zeus_> oh it's ubottu not ubotu
[02:31] <_Zeus_> two t;s
[02:31] <TiredWolf> currently, yes
[02:31] <soldats> its the replacement
[02:31] <tim167> what does it take to play a DVD on ubuntu ?
[02:31] <obidiah> miranda: xfce is very similar to gnome and runs on older hardware
[02:31] <_Zeus_> libdvdcss1?
[02:31] <miranda> ok it has 64MB
[02:31] <bazhang> !dvd | tim167
[02:31] <_Zeus_> sry libdvdcss2
[02:31] <user1> TiredWolf:  sudo dpkg -i LimeWireLinux.deb works
[02:31] <bazhang> obidiah, not on 64mb
[02:31] <mouser-> tim167: Otherwise you should be able to play unprotected DVDs out of the box.
[02:31] <Blaqlight> _Zeus_: libdvdcss2
[02:32] <chao1> it told me to run e2fsck and this is what I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/30727/
[02:32] <fiXXXerMet> ﻿I just installed the flash-nonfree plugin from within firefox, but flash still isn't showing (It says "Click here to download the plugin."  ﻿But when I do so, it says that the plugin is already installed.
[02:32] <Sylphid> I have tk8.5 installed to fill the xchat dependancy for tk8.4 but it shows xchat as a broken package without tk8.4 installed ... how can I fix this without installing tk8,4 (it breaks some scripts)
[02:32] <soldats> miranda: if you have some time to kill look up some distros that handle low ram possibly arch. i dont want to push you away but ubuntu doesnt really run off 64
[02:32] <_Zeus_> did you restart firefox, fixxxermet?
[02:32] <enno_> fiXXXerMet: have you tried to restart firefox?
[02:32] <_Zeus_> ninja'd :-D
[02:33] <fiXXXerMet> haha
[02:33] <fiXXXerMet> Yeah, I did.
[02:33] <chao1> TiredWolf: what should I do?
[02:33] <fiXXXerMet> Oh, wait - I had another window open on another workspace.
[02:33] <fiXXXerMet> There we go!
[02:33] <enno_> fiXXXerMet: maybe you should try the flashplugin from the adobe homepage
[02:33] <soldats> fiXXXerMet: run firefx and int he address bar type "about:plugins" and see what it says about flash
[02:33] <miranda> I am thinking of doing xubuntu b/c it has greater support...second choice
[02:33] <TiredWolf> chao1: oh no, don't run fsck (well, too late). the more you write to the drive (and fsck could write a lot), the more you risk that it fails completely
[02:34] <chao1> :o
[02:34] <chao1> =-O
[02:34] <CShadowRun> Weirdest bug report you'll ever read people... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/252228
[02:34] <TiredWolf> chao1, i'd suggest a "dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=partitionimage-or-whatever", i think that should work to create an image - then work on that
[02:34] <TiredWolf> chao1: if you have the space, of course
[02:34] <soldats> miranda: if that doesnt work try arch, arch is a lot more complicated but runs a lot better on low memory systems
[02:34] <chao1> how would I work on that?
[02:35] <_Zeus_> i would use xubuntu
[02:35] <gradin> i'm having troubles mounting a directory
[02:35] <TiredWolf> chao1: just as if it were a real partition. almost. you can mount it with the "-o loop" option
[02:35] <tim167> how do i install  libdvdcss2 ?
[02:35] <_Zeus_> you need the medibuntu repos
[02:35] <_Zeus_> do you have them?
[02:35] <soldats> gradin: explain, maybe we can help
[02:35] <gradin> whats the easiest way to mount /home/test to /var/www/test ?
[02:35] <TiredWolf> chao1: like, "sudo mount partitionimage /media/blah -o loop", or you could just try "e2fsck -b 8193 partitionimage"
[02:35] <gradin> so that an ftp server can read it...
[02:36] <mlLK> in aptitude what does 'A' mean where it is displayed between install-status and package name?
[02:36] <enno_> gradin: have you tried to use a symlink
[02:36] <enno_> gradin: using ln -s
[02:36] <_Zeus_> tim167: type /msg ubottu medibuntu
[02:37] <Blaqlight> I need to get gnome-settings-daemon running in fluxbox. it tells me ** (gnome-settings-daemon:11093): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to session bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-zUXDjxGpmv: Connection refused
[02:37] <gradin> Server sent passive reply with unroutable address. Using server address instead.
[02:37] <_Zeus_> CShadowRun: could  you include a copy of Xorg.log?
[02:37] <CShadowRun> _Zeus_ if you tell me where i can get it, sure.
[02:38] <gradin> so using symlinks is out
[02:38] <gradin> i tried a mount --bind and that didn't work either
[02:38] <bartek> can someone say my name? sorry.. wont ask again just need to test something qucik
[02:38] <Johnny> i cant get any themes working
[02:38] <Blaqlight> does that mean that it won't run without gnome-session running or am I missing something?
[02:38] <enno_> gradin: does the ftp server has access to the directory?
[02:38] <Johnny> i installed xfce-goodies and gtk-engines*
[02:38] <alraun1> bartek:?
[02:38] <bartek> alraun1: thank you :)
[02:38] <Johnny> and nothing shows up in preferences
[02:38] <Blaqlight> bartek: hi
[02:39] <CShadowRun> _Zeus_ can you tell me where i can find it?
[02:39] <gradin> enno_: yeah
[02:39] <fde> gradin: mount -o loop /whatever /wherever
[02:39] <fde> gradin: uhh... -o bind
[02:40] <Johnny> anyone have any idea what the problem is?
[02:40] <Johnny> i only have the standard themes in system prefs
[02:40] <Johnny> and i installed alot of themes
[02:40] <_Zeus_> CShadowRun: go to System > Administration > System Log
[02:41] <RatKingX> !3+4
[02:41] <Twili> Hey what's up
[02:41] <kadu> alguem pode me ajudar com o ubuntu... sou iniciante e não conheço nada
[02:41] <gradin> fde: didnt' work either
[02:41] <fde> gradin: is there an error?
[02:41] <CShadowRun> _Zeus_ i'm on it :D
[02:41] <alraun1> ﻿CShadowRun: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:41] <miranda> What's the net benefit of having more ram with ubuntu?
[02:42] <Twili> What new features are expected for the next release of Ubuntu?
[02:42] <lucent> Skype + Bluetooth headset + Ubuntu Hardy = pulseaudio segfault
[02:42]  * lucent :(
[02:42] <snarkster> just like windows you go faster more elbow room
[02:42] <fde> miranda: same as with any os... faster access to things you've already ran via cache.
[02:42] <CShadowRun> i'll move that one and then reproduce the bug, so in theory you should get a clear log with only the error in it
[02:42] <Sylphid> I have tk8.5 installed to fill the xchat dependancy for tk8.4 but it shows xchat as a broken package without tk8.4 installed ... how can I fix this without installing tk8,4 (it breaks some scripts)
[02:42] <alraun1> miranda: quicker page setup,...
[02:42] <Twili> ﻿What new features are expected for the next release of Ubuntu?
[02:42] <miranda> awesome...thanks
[02:42] <Twili> ﻿What new features are expected for the next release of Ubuntu?
[02:42] <lucent> miranda: the downside is that hibernate takes longer
[02:42] <Twili> ﻿What new features are expected for the next release of Ubuntu?
[02:42] <gradin> ok now it works sweet
[02:42] <RatKingX> hush!
[02:42] <Twili> ﻿What new features are expected for the next release of Ubuntu?
[02:42] <Twili> ﻿What new features are expected for the next release of Ubuntu?
[02:43] <FloodBot1> Twili: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <fde> Twili: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid
[02:43] <lucent> miranda: you need lots of swap to cover the higher quantity of ram
[02:43] <CShadowRun> _Zeus_ it doesn't appear to add anything new to the log
[02:43] <kadu> #ubuntu-br
[02:43] <lucent> miranda: 2GiB is plenty of RAM for most desktop users
[02:43] <_Zeus_> roger CShadowRun
[02:43] <nickelodiun> I need help installing UBUNTU on my new Toshiba A305D
[02:43] <_Zeus_> they should be bold if there's anything new
[02:43] <fde> nickelodiun: What are you confused about?
[02:44] <alraun1> lucent: if its enough ram, you could also decrease swap to a min or disable it
[02:44] <CShadowRun> _Zeus_ by that i mean, i renamed Xorg.0.log to Xorg.0.log.back, then span my volume knob around for a while, it didn't create a new log
[02:44] <nickelodiun> I try to install, but it crash on the start up
[02:44] <lucent> alraun1: no, no, listen to what I'm saying here :P   Hibernate uses your swap partition to store the contents of RAM
[02:44] <_Zeus_> roger yeah that works
[02:44] <lucent> more ram = need bigger swap
[02:44] <CShadowRun> ok :)
[02:44] <fde> lucent: no
[02:44] <cars> Is there an automated way to repair an existing ubuntu installation using the hoary CD?
[02:44] <alraun1> nickelodiun: what problem you got ?
[02:44] <_Zeus_> hoary?
[02:44] <_Zeus_> that's like 2 years old!
[02:44] <Blaqlight> I think Im going to use gparted to remove windows from my system permenantly, I haven't used it in 4 months.
[02:45] <cars> er, the new one.
[02:45] <alraun1> lucent: k, for hibernation
[02:45] <_Zeus_> hardy?
[02:45] <bartek> time to try and get atleast one display working properly with the correct resolution...somehow I can see myself staying up till 4am
[02:45] <cars> Yeah.  4.08
[02:45] <Blaqlight> cars: thats hardy heron
[02:45] <fde> cars: install something newer, that is almost 4 years old
[02:45] <cars> Getting the animal names mixed up.  The newest one that I downloaded a second ago.
[02:45] <nickelodiun> this is the error http://mx.geocities.com/zednanreh69/errorubuntu.jpg
[02:46] <cxo> hey umm, i tried that netboot thing and its downloading packages from the net, can i point it to the cd i downloaded and kept on an nfs share?
[02:46] <fde> Blaqlight: no it's not... hoary was the only release that wasn't 04 or 10
[02:46] <lucent> nickelodiun: Hm, it will be important to drill this down some.   Bad CD? Not enough RAM? wrong display mode for your LCD (happens a lot on Dell or LCD displays)?
[02:46] <Blaqlight> cars 8.04 LTS?
[02:46] <nickelodiun> NOP
[02:46] <Flannel> fde: Hoary was, Dapper wasn't.
[02:46] <jeeves__> how can I find out why add/remove programs is locking up when I try to install new software?
[02:46] <fde> cars: Go grab hardy
[02:46] <CShadowRun> nickelodiun lol at the camera, heres a hint. Press the "Print screen" or "Prt Scr" button on your keyboard. It'll save a picture of whats currently on your screen to a file.
[02:46] <cars> Blaqlight, yes.  The one that was released this yer.
[02:46] <nickelodiun> I got 10 NEW CDS FROM CANONICAL, 3GB RAM
[02:47] <urbanmonkey> nickelodiun: have you tried the textbased installer?
[02:47] <Blaqlight> fde he said he just did.
[02:47] <lucent> nickelodiun: could be bad RAM, bad CD, or you just ran out of RAM because you did something else while running the GUI installer.... try installing using the alternate CD
[02:47] <chao1> TireWolf: currently running dd. had to get my external hdd. I have the bad hdd in my media tank that i got from thinkgeek.com (everyone should get one) and running it on my laptop.
[02:47] <alraun1> nickelodiun: 10 ??
[02:47] <lucent> nickelodiun: are you using a shipit CD? or have you burned your own?
[02:47] <nickelodiun> THIS IS NOT MY PICTURE, but seems like a lot of ppl are having the same problem
[02:47] <fde> Flannel: ahh... well 4.08 may have even been warty, I forget... that's very old.
[02:47] <jeeves__> Blaqlight, any ideas on this add/remove programs thing locking up?  I don't think I flushed all the LDAP stuff out
[02:47] <nickelodiun> yes, that too
[02:47] <nickelodiun> is not the cd, I checked that
[02:48] <Flannel> fde: no, 4.10 was Warty, 5.04 was Hoary (5.10 Breezy).  6.06 was Dapper.
[02:48] <cars> fde, Blaqlight, sorry for the confusion.  I'm using the latest release.
[02:48] <Blaqlight> jeeves__: sorry but no i don't
[02:48] <lucent> nickelodiun: what program do you use to write out your CD?
[02:48] <chao1> TiredWolf: /thanks
[02:48] <o0splitpaw0o> join #o0splitpaw0o's-show
[02:48] <nickelodiun> several, but is not the CD, this cd installs on other laptops
[02:48] <fde> cars: anyway... yes... I think it has a repair feature if you boot like you're going to install.
[02:49] <Johnny> can someone help me
[02:49] <Johnny> i cant get any themes to install
[02:49] <lucent> nickelodiun: I am curious though
[02:49] <LinkManDX> does Hardy come with a MIDI system preinstalled?
[02:49] <fde> Johnny: only if you ask a question.
[02:49] <qwm> Johnny: yeah, but you need to find that someone.
[02:49] <lucent> LinkManDX: ALSA has the "seq" subsystem which is for MIDI sequencing, yes
[02:49] <guido_> I'm getting an error while doing a poweroff ia vbox windows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30730/ any thoughts?
[02:49] <qwm> pray and you will find God too.
[02:49] <jeeves__> Blaqlight, when I do a "sudo apt- get install", etc, it says... "sudo: unable to resolve host Pennie2"
[02:49] <cars> fde, thanks.  I'll try that.
[02:49] <nickelodiun> nero, alcohol just to mention some
[02:49] <alraun1> nickelodiun: so does this screen apear after first boot , when install has finished ?
[02:50] <LinkManDX> lucent: I was wondering because I'm running TuxGuitar and it's throwing an error at me when I try playback
[02:50] <derekv> Is compiz known to hang a lot with the ati proprietary drivers, that anyone is aware of? (i know ubuntu can't support these drivers, i'm just wondering if this is a known buggy combination or if it is unique to me)
[02:50] <EruditeHermit> does anyone know how to specify which video port xine uses
[02:50] <nickelodiun> no, before it trys to install
[02:50] <TiredWolf> chao1: well, now keep that drive image safe, and at least you know you won't lose your data, and one way or another you can recover what's left even if the drive fails. i'm heading to bed now though
[02:50] <jeeves__> Flannel, any ideas on this questionable issue?
[02:50] <lucent> LinkManDX: synthesizing sound based on MIDI events is a different issue though
[02:50] <Adantan_Alex> hey
[02:50] <Flannel> !hostname | jeeves__
[02:50] <nickelodiun> I put the cd in, boot to the loader, select to install and I get this
[02:50] <ManualOverDozer8> when will flash plugin for mozilla ever get fixed ? or is there one that works ?
[02:50] <Blaqlight> jeeves__: perhaps your link location is bad, try another. or open firefox and try google.com to see if your internet connection is working.
[02:50] <lucent> LinkManDX: look into some software called "timidity" there are a lot of posts about it on ubuntu forums
[02:50] <fde> lucent: most use brasero or k3b ... personally, I just use 'wodim --data file1 file2 file3'
[02:51] <Flannel> jeeves__: Thats your problem (hostname issues)
[02:51] <chao1> TiredWolf: thanks
[02:51] <alraun1> nickelodiun: did you try boot options, e.g. acpi=off ?
[02:51] <jeeves__> Blaqlight, it's comming back with pam_auth error
[02:51] <chao1> I had been trying to remember how to use the dd command
[02:51] <ManualOverDozer8> if someone knows of a flash-plugin for mozzilla that works, please let me know
[02:51] <Adantan_Alex> hey guys is there a way i can download the old version of ubuntu?
[02:51]  * lucent /whois fde
[02:51] <chao1> I learned it in my linux class
[02:51] <Flannel> Adantan_Alex: which version?
[02:51] <Adantan_Alex> the one before 8.04?
[02:51] <LinkManDX> lucent: thanks, i'll check that out
[02:51] <Blaqlight> jeeves__: listen to Flannel
[02:51] <alraun1> cxo: didn't understand your question
[02:51] <Flannel> Adantan_Alex: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[02:51] <Adantan_Alex> thats it? ty
[02:52] <jeeves__> Flannel, thanks
[02:52] <nickelodiun> I was told it was that ubuntu did not recongnized my hard drive\
[02:52] <ManualOverDozer8> the previous was 7.01 i believe
[02:52] <fde> chao1: what do you want to know about it?
[02:52] <Adantan_Alex> !info
[02:52] <lucent> nickelodiun: it's possible that your computer uses a chipset not yet supported by the installer
[02:52] <fde> ManualOverDozer8: 7.04
[02:52] <ailean> guys, i want to reinstall windows so i can use my iphone.  at present i have 2 partitions, both of which are linux.  how can i tape over one while keeping my current working linux partition selectable from a menu?
[02:52] <nickelodiun> what can I do?
[02:53] <alraun1> nickelodiun: can you run ubu as live system ?
[02:53] <Blaqlight> omg this wine gecko installer may actually finish downloading the file for the first time.
[02:53] <cxo> I'm install ubuntu using a pxe image i found on this site http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install however the installer is downloading packages from the net, which is gonna take ages since my connection is slow, I already have 8.04 disc downloaded and placed on an nfs share, how do i get the installer to use it?
[02:53] <guren> ManualOverDozer8: flashplugin-nonfree works fine with me
[02:53] <Flannel> fde, ManualOverDozer8, 7.10 was directly before, 7.04 was one before that.
[02:53] <jeeves__> Flannel, all of them show up as "Pennie2"
[02:53] <urbanmonkey> ok, possibly stupid question, under 7.10 i could write to my ext3 usb drive, i've done a clean install of 8.04.1, and now i can't write to the same drive... what changed?
[02:53] <ManualOverDozer8> fde: is there an archived one that he can download 7.04 ?
[02:53] <nickelodiun> nada, i does not work
[02:53] <chao1> i have it running. TiredWolf told me what I needed. However Now I need to mount it
[02:53] <ailean> guys, i want to reinstall windows so i can use my iphone.  at present i have 2 partitions, both of which are linux.  how can i tape over one while keeping my current working linux partition selectable from a menu? if i can't do this i'll just go back to windows.
[02:53] <nickelodiun> it does not work as live cd
[02:53] <lucent> nickelodiun: if it's not supported, there's not a lot you can do except wait for it to be supported.   if instead there is some other issue happening, then you need to do some more research
[02:53] <Flannel> jeeves__: Can you open up another terminal and sudo successfully?
[02:53] <fde> ManualOverDozer8: yes... but I forget the link... why do you want an old version though?
[02:53] <Adantan_Alex> !repeat
[02:54] <jeeves__> Flannel, no.  as well, add/remove programs wizard locks up.
[02:54] <fde> Flannel: What is the link for EOL versions of Ubuntu (say for supported upgrades etc)
[02:54] <lucent> nickelodiun: I find that Ubuntu Hardy is workable on about 80% of computers I try it on
[02:54] <chao1> nickelodiun: what kind of issue are you having again
[02:54] <lucent> nickelodiun: if it's not working right away, it takes me an average of 4-5 hours to make it working
[02:54] <nickelodiun> alraun1: no I can not run live
[02:54] <ManualOverDozer8> fde: another person had asked, but, i was interested in know if there was myself.
[02:54] <guren> ailean: resize one linux partition then reformat that partition..  reinstall windows on that separate partition then run grub on a livecd
[02:55] <lucent> nickelodiun: the easiest thing is if you have access to multiple computers, skip using it on your laptop and use it on another PC
[02:55] <jeeves__> I think I'm just going to blow this install away and try it again
[02:55] <cxo> alraun1, did you get it now?
[02:55] <ManualOverDozer8> nickelodiunL i found some things dont work on LiveCD, but, when you install it, they work just fine
[02:55] <Adantan_Alex> awkward
[02:55] <chao1> ailean: try this:
[02:55] <Adantan_Alex> lol j/k um ty
[02:55] <chao1> http://howtoforge.com/installing-vmware-server-on-ubuntu-8.04
[02:56] <Blaqlight> jeeves__: thats prolly not a bad idea.
[02:56] <lucent> jeeves__: your DNS is pooched
[02:56] <lucent> jeeves__: that causes X11 apps to stop functioning
[02:56] <ailean> chaol, apparently vmware won't allow the iphone to connect
[02:56] <alraun1> cxo: yes,I'm not shure as it is possible in debian, what bandwith does the download have ?
[02:56] <jeeves__> lucent, is it an easy fix, or should I just blow it away?
[02:56] <guren> ailean: how about wine?
[02:56] <lucent> jeeves__: X11 is network based.... when DNS goes fubar, practically nothing works
[02:56] <nickelodiun> I CAN NOT INSTALL, RUN LIVE OR BOOT UBUNTU.. I have a toshiba A305D-S6831, AMD Turion 64 x2 Dual-core M 3000mb RAM
[02:56] <Johnny> does anyone know how to fix themes not being able to install
[02:56] <chao1> how do you normally connect it?
[02:56] <lucent> jeeves__: should be an easy fix *if* you can still sudo, lol
[02:57] <rockenrola> I have a EPS file that I can't open with gipm, ghostscript and inkscape. It seems to have some errors. Is it possible to correct the errors?
[02:57] <mortal1> anyone know how to auto download recommended packages via apt-get?
[02:57] <LinkManDX> nickelodiun: did you boot off the cd?
[02:57] <lucent> jeeves__: got a LiveCD handy?
[02:57] <cgreen> nickelodiun: try using the alternate install disc, i had a similiar problem
[02:57] <fde> mortal1: you can't, try aptitude
[02:57] <chao1> nickelodiun: try puppylinux to see if a different live version will work
[02:57] <alraun1> nickelodiun: try goole: ubuntu ﻿ toshiba A305D-S6831 ?
[02:57] <cxo> alraun1, not much, 512kbit/s
[02:57] <ailean> guren, does itunes work under wine?
[02:57] <alraun1> nickelodiun: try google: ubuntu ﻿ toshiba A305D-S6831 ?
[02:57] <Kohlrak> I installed ubuntu server, but it hung when installing LAMP, Mail, and a few other things. So i decided to reboot instead and install from there and even install gnome so i have the fancy things with the desktop ubuntu (without all the extra programs), but i can't seem to get ubuntu to start gnome. Any ideas?
[02:57] <fde> ailean: yes
[02:57] <guren> ailean: yes, i've tried it before
[02:57] <nickelodiun> This is my last hope, I ve try all
[02:58] <mlLK> where does aptitude and apt-get store packages?
[02:58] <cgreen> quick ?, anyone know of a free inventory management software for ubuntu, im talking product inventory not hardware/software
[02:58] <lucent> mlLK: /var/cache/apt something or other
[02:58] <fde> mlLK: /var/cache/apt/archive
[02:58] <mlLK> gracias
[02:58] <lucent> mlLK: just do apt-get clean though
[02:58] <jeeves__> lucent, not here, and I don't have the usal blank CD-RW in my drive either.
[02:58] <Blaqlight> mlLK: /var/temp
[02:58] <lucent> don't mess with /var/*
[02:58] <mlLK> lucent, why?
[02:58] <Kohlrak> cgreen, if there aren't any, there's always gcc
[02:58] <fde> Blaqlight: huh?
[02:58] <cars> fde, I'm fairly sure I remember seeing it as a menu option in a previous release, but I don't see the automated repair option in the new graphical installer.  Do you know where it is?
[02:58] <jeeves__> lucent, are you going to be on-line for a while (under an hour)?
[02:58] <mlLK> i just need to configure something
[02:58] <lucent> mlLK: trust me!  you may find it exciting if you don't agree with me
[02:59] <mlLK> lucent, yikes
 I want to install linux on this laptop, so I am stock with Windows?
[02:59] <lucent> jeeves__: sure mate, are you in the US?  (checking...)
[02:59] <cgreen> nickelodiun: if the alternate wont work try going to forum.ubuntu.com somebody had to have had a similiar problem and fixed it, if not try using fedora, puppy, or some other linux to see if it is just ubuntu
[02:59] <alraun1> cxo: I've got an up to 16 MB downstream,  but never got more then 800kbit/s in Installations, mostly around 700k/s, so that shouldn't matter
[02:59] <mortal1> why would apt-get suggest packages that you can't automatically install via some switch?
[02:59] <mlLK> lucent, i just wanna configure vbox
[02:59] <fde> cars: Maybe it's just part of the GRUB menu after install, I've never had to use it (shocking considering how much I "play" with this system  :P )
[02:59] <Blaqlight> fde: mistype. dyxlexia kicks in when I least expect it.
[02:59] <lusepuster> Ooops.... I've seemed to remove myself from the sudoers list. Any way to fix this without doing a fresh install?
[02:59] <fde> mlLK: Are you getting any errors?
[02:59] <chao1> ailean: if you create a windows vm with any flavor of vm emulator you should be able to connect the iPHONE the same way as if you installed it on a different partition
[02:59] <lucent> lusepuster: yes
[02:59] <alraun1> cox: what a pc is it ?
[02:59] <cgreen> Kohlrak: gcc???
[02:59] <mlLK> fde, haven't attempted it yet
[02:59] <cxo> alraun1, you do know,  512kbit/s is like 64kbytes/s ?
[03:00] <fde> mlLK: Try it, then ask questions  :/
[03:00] <ailean> chao1, ok, but you can't
[03:00] <Tetrohead> hey guys. i just dragged my trash bin off my desktop. tried "Keep Aligned" and using gconf-editor
[03:00] <lucent> lusepuster: reboot, get to GRUB menu (escape key before 3 second count down), choose recovery mode
[03:00] <lusepuster> lucent, you happen to know a solution? ;-)
[03:00] <cars> fde, well, there is a rescue option which drops you into a CLI root session, but not what I was thinking of.
[03:00] <lusepuster> lucent, thanks...
[03:00] <alraun1> cxo: oohmps...
[03:00] <lucent> lusepuster: and uh...  that's classic
[03:00] <lucent> thanks
[03:00] <jeeves__> lucent, naaa, I'm in Vancouver Canada.  I'm just going to head back to the house to do a fresh install.  I was going to say if you're around, I'd get your help fixing this video issue
[03:00] <lucent> it makes me giggle
[03:00] <fde> cars: What exactly is wrong?
[03:00] <Kohlrak> cgreen, it's a C compiler. A program to take inventory shouldn't be overly hard to make if you don't need something with a professional logo on it
[03:00] <chao1> :-?
[03:00] <guren> ailean: i can't wait to get my hands on an iphone 3g.. have you tried rhythmbox with it?
[03:00] <Kohlrak> many would consider such a thing to be a hello world program
[03:01] <lusepuster> lucent, I know, it's stupid... So in reocovery mode...?
[03:01] <Sindacious> What would one do to extract a .gz file?
[03:01] <ailean> guren, not yet. i just got mine today
[03:01] <lusepuster> Sindacious, by command line you mean?
[03:01] <cgreen> Kohlrak: lol im still learning how to program in javascript lol, ya know where i could get some good reading on the subject, i really wanna learn
[03:01] <jeeves__> Sindacious, if it's in the dir where you want it.  tar -xvf <file name>
[03:01] <Tetrohead> Help me haha. I dragged my trash off my desktop. Can't get it back.
[03:01] <Sindacious> lusepuster, sure
[03:01] <lucent> lusepuster: recovery mode is a text console, you can "visudo" and stuff.  It's too verbose to explain in-channel
[03:02] <guren> ailean: i see.. there are plugins though in rhythmbox that you might wanna try..
[03:02] <lucent> jeeves__: alright
[03:02] <fde> Sindacious: tar.gz ? tar xzf whatever.tar.gz
[03:02] <lusepuster> if it's not a .tar.gz but just a .gz, use gunzip filename
[03:02] <ManualOverDozer8> cgreen check your messages, maybe that will help
[03:02] <lucent> I wish I could take donations, I know solutions to maybe 40% of problems here
[03:02] <Johnny> nm-applet doesnt connect
[03:02] <mlLK> ok so aptitude runs deb as well?
[03:02]  * lucent  =o)
[03:02] <Johnny> it just keeps swirling
[03:02] <Sindacious> fde, it's a sql.gz :/
[03:02] <Sylphid> I have tk8.5 installed to fill the xchat dependancy for tk8.4 but it shows xchat as a broken package without tk8.4 installed ... how can I fix this without installing tk8,4 (it breaks some scripts)
[03:02] <fde> Sindacious: you need the z tar option for gzip files...
[03:02] <Johnny> both dots are green
[03:03] <mlLK> unless optioned
[03:03] <fde> Sindacious: eh, then gunzip
[03:03] <nickelodiun> lucent help me out
[03:03] <lusepuster> Sindacious, gunzip
[03:03] <Tetrohead> i can't get my trash bin ahh!!!
[03:03] <mlLK> where does deb store apps?
[03:03] <nickelodiun> I will paypal you
[03:03] <mlLK> as sudo
[03:03] <fde> Tetrohead: You removed it from the panel?
[03:03] <Kohlrak> cgreen, it's alot like javascript, only a little more detail is needed for the code. Google "C tutorial" and chances are one of the first links will be enough to learn C. Then it's a matter of using printf and scanf
[03:03] <Tetrohead> i dragged it off desktop somehow
[03:03] <Sindacious> lusepuster, gzip: backup_1217058161_4e4d589fcb5688d0.sql.gz: unexpected end of file
[03:03] <lucent> nickelodiun: no kidding?  hm.   I'll help you anyways
[03:03] <bartek> Ok..enabling the ati accelerated drivers was a BAD idea
[03:03] <bahaa> hi guys
[03:04] <Tetrohead> fde: tried gconf-editor. didn't work
[03:04] <bahaa> wanna to ask about installing a package
[03:04] <lusepuster> Sindacious, hmmm.... Can't give you an explanation to that, sorry...
[03:04] <fde> mlLK: /var/lib/dpkg/ is where most of its info is... I believe it puts the .debs in the same place as apt though.
[03:04] <Kohlrak> yes, bahaa?
[03:04] <Johnny> flashplugin is really slow and laggy
[03:04] <fde> Tetrohead: That's not what I asked... you removed the applet from the panel?
[03:04] <fde> Johnny: Flash is really slow and laggy  :/
[03:04] <cgreen> Kohlrak: thanks, as soon as i get a free weekend ill start learning, cya
[03:04] <mlLK> fde, k thx again
[03:05] <Kohlrak> np, cgreen
[03:05] <Tetrohead> fde: no, not the trash on my panel. trash on my desktop
[03:05] <Johnny> not usually fde
[03:05] <fde> Tetrohead: remove it and return it?
[03:05] <Johnny> i just reinstalled because everything went to shit and now its craptastic
[03:05] <Tetrohead> fde: tried
[03:05] <fde> Johnny: Yes, usually. Flash is horrible.
[03:05] <ManualOverDozer8> fde did you get flash running on hardy ?
[03:05] <fde> ManualOverDozer8: yes
[03:05] <alraun1> cxo: as far I can see you can try to install a minimal text-based system for a first boot and then gould chenge sources.list to a (local) ftp server...
[03:05] <Tetrohead> fde: also tried "Keep Aligned"
[03:05] <ManualOverDozer8> what version please ?
[03:05] <Dunas> Quick, what's the command to install the Nvidia GUI Control Panel?
[03:06] <fde> Tetrohead: "Clean up by name"?
[03:06] <ManualOverDozer8> i tried through SPM and it took forever, only to find, it doesnt work
[03:06] <Tetrohead> Dunas: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[03:07] <alraun1> Dunas: try envy
[03:07] <Tetrohead> fde: got it, thanks. can't believe i didn't try that hahaha
[03:07] <chao1> Someone needs to update the ubottu's information on how to install Limewire. Limewire has a .deb now
[03:07] <Dunas> Envy?
[03:07] <Ahadiel> chao1, Frostwire is open source.
[03:08] <alraun1> Dunas: (nick!) ...is an automatic installation tool for ATI/Nvidia chips
[03:08] <fde> chao1: try !frostwire is <what you think it should say>
[03:08] <fde> chao1: Or if it's a wiki page, just sign up and edit it.
[03:08] <Dunas> (nick!)?
[03:09] <ManualOverDozer8> fde i may have missed it, but what version flash you get working, and/or method of install ?
[03:09] <fde> ManualOverDozer8: 9.0.120-something I think is what was in hardy... I'm using intrepid atm... it has flash 10
[03:09] <qwm> i've had enough of these rascals!
[03:10] <ManualOverDozer8> fde: i have 10.x in now, and it doesnt work, i will try 9.x
[03:10] <alraun1> Dunas: (nick!) type my nick if u answer, otherwise its going under in the other replies |  apt-get install  envyng-core envyng-qt envyng-gtk
[03:11] <fde> Dunas: note you likely only want one of -qt or -gtk ... depending on the desktop you use
[03:12] <bartek> Does anyone know why the accelerated driver would cause my screens to not work? They get shut off as soon as I hit the login screen
[03:12] <Roscoe> Wipe out :(
[03:13] <indra> good morning
[03:13] <guren> hello indra
[03:13] <indra> i am putting openchrome driver
[03:13] <indra> and i can t start xserver
[03:13] <guren> indra: your nick is the european company?
[03:13] <ahorner> How can I watch dvds?
[03:13] <Blaqlight> I want to change the cursor theme in fluxbox anyone know how to do this. I asked in #fluxbox and got nothing but ask someone who knows xorg.
[03:14] <indra> i must reconfigure this
[03:14] <giacomo> how can i get a video to display on my s-video out to my tv?  everything else shows up (desktop) but videos are just black
[03:14] <alraun1> ahorner : with vlc-media player
[03:14] <Blaqlight> !dvd | ahorner
[03:14] <indra> but i don-t know how
[03:14] <indra> i must put vesa
[03:14] <giacomo> does anyone know?
[03:15] <Flannel> fde: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[03:15] <alraun1> indra : xorg.conf
[03:15] <indra> and kill openchrome
[03:15] <indra> yes
[03:15] <indra> but i booting
[03:15] <indra> and when come to xserver
[03:15] <indra> they crash
[03:15] <giacomo>  how can i get a video to display on my s-video out to my tv?  everything else shows up (desktop) but videos are just black
[03:16] <indra> he crash
[03:16] <Dunas> fde: Well, how do I know which one to use?
[03:16] <indra> i was from recovery mode
[03:16] <indra> booting him
[03:17] <sivel27> hello all
[03:17] <indra> i boot x manual
[03:17] <giacomo> nvm, vlc worked
[03:17] <alraun1> indra: hardy 8.04 ?
[03:17] <Dunas> alraun1: Which of the two do I need to use?
[03:17] <sivel27> any advice on how to check if my box has been hacked?
[03:17] <indra> in revovery mode
[03:18] <indra> i don t have xorg.conf
[03:18] <sivel27> ive got a new dir with go1.txt, priv8.txt, and 2 other text files that the person tried to perl
[03:18] <yoyoned> sivel27: why di you think it's been hacked
[03:18] <indra> dont have etc/x11/xorg.conf
[03:18] <Blaqlight> sivel27: when nothing is running yet your outgoing internet usage is high...
[03:18] <alraun1> Dunas: you got to install the packages, then find under apps>sytem the envytab, see rest..
[03:18] <sivel27> can i paste the code of the text files?
[03:19] <ejsilver26> Hello everyone. Anyone have a few min to assist me in an error I am getting compiling 2.6.26? Thanks.
[03:19] <alraun1> indra X11 not x11
[03:19] <indra> aha
[03:19] <Blaqlight> sivel27: use pastebin.ubuntu.com
[03:19] <indra> well X11
[03:19] <indra> thanx a lot
[03:19] <yoyoned> ejsilver26: post the error
[03:20] <alraun1> indra ﻿ etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:20] <ejsilver26> yoyoned: No rule to make target `arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.s', needed by `include/asm-x86/asm-offsets.h'.  Stop.
[03:20] <yoyoned> sivel27: use pastbin
[03:20] <ejsilver26> I've been trying to find a "fix" or solution online all night. Any help is appreciated.
[03:20] <Yhapster> hey guys, what's the best option for running WinXP virtualized in Hardy?
[03:20] <sivel27> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30739/
[03:20] <sivel27> thats from one of the text files priv8.txt
[03:20] <sivel27> heres another one
[03:20] <Yhapster> my gf wants to watch some show online, and it's DRM-encumber
[03:21] <alraun1> indra ﻿ first you should backup the old file, then sudo gedit ...xorg.conf
[03:21] <yoyoned> ejsilver26: did you run make config
[03:21] <ejsilver26> yoyoned: make menuconfig, yes.
[03:22] <namelestheone> hello
[03:22] <guren> hello
[03:22] <sivel27> heres go1.txt
[03:22] <sivel27> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30740/
[03:22] <namelestheone> what is this chat room for
[03:22] <lucent> Yhapster: depending on what you want?
[03:22] <Blaqlight> sivel27: just the filenames themeselves lend towards highly suspicious.
[03:23] <sivel27> yup
[03:23] <giacomo> what is the default gnome sound manager?
[03:23] <alraun1> ﻿ ! offtopic |namelestheone
[03:23] <Yhapster> lucent: she just needs to run a copy of Firefox in Windows, so the Windows Media plugin will load up and play her show.
[03:23] <alraun1> ﻿ !offtopic |namelestheone
[03:23] <sivel27> the person erased my bash history, but left the few commands where they perled all four of the files
[03:23] <namelestheone> ??
[03:23] <lucent> Yhapster: so you need sound, and native speed
[03:24] <lucent> Yhapster: WINE won't do it ?
[03:24] <giacomo> what is the default sound manager for gnome?
[03:24] <lucent> I don't know
[03:24] <sivel27> thats all chinese to me, and im wondering if its running in the background or something
[03:24] <lucent> giacomo: Pulse Audio lately
[03:24] <Yhapster> lucent: yeah, exactly. i used to use VMWare server for this, but i think it'd be overkill
[03:24] <bartek> Quick question .. in the BinaryDriverHowto located here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-02330ccb580b6a9411d32bf617cc5a82116ba6b9
[03:24] <giacomo> like, for the system tray?
[03:24] <alraun1> ubuntu support is the channels theme namelestheone
[03:24] <Yhapster> lucent: will WINE run IE 7.0 with Windows Media Player?
[03:24] <bartek> It states "Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager, then do: " ... where is this restricted-manager?
[03:24] <ejsilver26> yoyoned: I have been googling all afternoon trying to find similar issues. I came across about 10-15 entries, followed them all. I've re-downloaded and un-tar'd the thing a dozen times.
[03:25] <namelestheone> is this a help chat
[03:25] <lucent> Yhapster: oh... yeah I forgot you said WMP
[03:25] <Yhapster> lucent: at least i think it is. either that, or a silverlight-based player, one of the two. either way, it's Microsoft DRM, that I know for sure
[03:26] <alraun1> namelestheone: yup
[03:26] <namelestheone> oh ok cool
[03:26] <Yhapster> lucent: so.... what's my option for virtualization? virtualbox, qemu, kvm...? or back to vmware?
[03:26] <Blaqlight> sivel27: is this on a windows machine?
[03:27] <sivel27> nope, ubu 8.04
[03:27] <lucent> Yhapster: I've tried KVM extensively, this laptop has a core2duo with the VT extension.  I helped submit some bug reports and stuff.  Estimated time to screw around and make it work is about 7 hours ( including an install of winxpsp2 )
[03:27] <namelestheone> ok i got a question then when i went to reinstall ubuntu on my comp i got a busy boy error
[03:27] <lucent> Yhapster: sound works, but networking is a lot trickier
[03:27] <Yhapster> lucent: wow, ok, don't really wanna spend 7 hours. i think vmware was faster than that. and this laptop isn't Core2 w/ VT. Mine at home is.
[03:28]  * Joeb454 leaving - need sleep, later
[03:28] <TehRikard> Hi guys. I'm a fresh Ubuntu user. I'm working on installing some drivers. My first driver is the NVIDIA video card. I can't run the RPM from init 1 because it can't download a file it needs during hte installation, and if I kill gdm, my box locks hard.
[03:28] <alraun1> ﻿Yhapster:I'd try vmware, but as u need usb (??) for player/phone, the freee verson would't do it
[03:28] <Blaqlight> sivel27: yah those are very suspicious. I would dsudo apt0get install firestarter and start it.
[03:28] <sivel27> the 3rd file is rm.txt and this is the code.:
[03:28] <sivel27> !/usr/bin/perl
[03:28] <sivel27> exec("rm -rf *siti* && rm rm.txt");
[03:28] <TehRikard> Basically I need to kill x windows so I can install this video driver :(
[03:28] <lucent> Yhapster: if you don't have VT extensions, then it is pretty horridly slow
[03:28] <lucent> Yhapster: it's just qemu then
[03:28] <Yhapster> alraun1: why do i need USB?
[03:29] <sivel27> whats firestarter?
[03:29] <namelestheone> can any one help
[03:29] <Yhapster> lucent: qemu > virtualbox?
[03:29] <TehRikard> Anybody? How do I kill X-Windows to install these nvidia drivers that keep telling me X has to be shutdown?
[03:29] <havocstorm> hey guys
[03:29] <ejsilver26> sivel27: firestarter is a firewall.
[03:29] <Blaqlight> sivel27: it gets a file from the internet and then connects to an irc network.
[03:29] <havocstorm> anyone know how to add programs to ubuntu startup?
[03:29] <alraun1> ﻿Yhapster:didn't u say u wanted to connect a player ? or was a phone ?
[03:29] <havocstorm> sivel27: firestarter is an excellent firewall
[03:29] <cxo> TehRikard, logoff, hit ctl+alt+f1, login , install
[03:29] <lucent> Yhapster: I'm thinking more along the lines of suggesting that you get a 2nd computer just for Windows
[03:30] <TehRikard> ty cxo
[03:30] <lucent> Yhapster: an old laptop or something?
[03:30] <sap>  Hi, I just copied video from a camcorder to my computer and now it is in .avi format . The file size is ~ 12 GB and I want to burn the video to a 4.4 GB dvd . I was trying to find out an option in K3b to convert/compress to a suitable format but could not find anything.  Any recommendations ? or perhaps another program etc ? :)
[03:30] <guido_>  I'm trying to fix KDM, whenever I try to close a session or restart the computer it hangs and I have to kill it from another terminal. Any thoughts?
[03:30] <cxo> TehRikard, woops one more step, "init 3" before you install
[03:30] <TehRikard> I'm also having an issue with a lot of missing drivers.
[03:30] <Yhapster> lucent: won't go over well with the GF.
[03:30] <sivel27> what does the file do? from the irc channel? is there any way to allow local network only with this firewall?
[03:30] <Blaqlight> firestarter is a gui front-end for iptables.
[03:30] <Yhapster> alraun1: nope, just trying to watch a TV show online on CTV.ca
[03:30] <cxo> TehRikard, then "init 5" to get back
[03:30] <lucent> sap: oh, there's not an easy GUI that I can think of
[03:30] <TehRikard> tyvm cxo.
[03:30] <lucent> sap: you want to split, or just compress?
[03:31] <TehRikard> Anyway, I'm having an issue with a lot of missing mainboard drivers.
[03:31] <Yhapster> lucent: and I'm trying to get the GF to like Ubuntu
[03:31] <TehRikard> USB, that jazz.
[03:31] <sap> lucent, hmm.. compress.. because I just want to put it all on one dvd
[03:31] <TehRikard> Any suggestions on how to fix this? I don't see much on ASUS website regarding Linux drivers
[03:31] <cxo> jazz
[03:31] <alraun1> ﻿Yhapster:didn't get it right then, sry
[03:31] <guido_> sap: you should find some avi to divx converter, try googling that
[03:31] <sap> lucent, I wouldnt mind a CLI program  as long as I can run a command or two for conversion
[03:31] <lucent> sap: it's really, hairy
[03:32] <cxo> TehRikard, really? are you sure?
[03:32] <Blaqlight> sivel27: if you install firestarter it should block that file or any others from getting out to the internet without your permission
[03:32] <Blaqlight> !iptables | sivel
[03:32] <sap> guido_,  hmm.. okay but i suspect most of them would be windows based
[03:32] <TehRikard> hm, lxo, even after logging out and ctrl alt f1, init 3, it still says im running an x server
[03:32] <lucent> Yhapster: well, iPod devices work with Rhythmbox now
[03:32] <lucent> that's a start
[03:32] <lucent> and the bird is pretty
[03:32] <sivel27> excellent, im installing now
[03:32] <lucent> women love that bird artwork (can I say that?!)
[03:32] <TehRikard> When using an iPod with Rhythmbox, make SURE you eject/dismount.
[03:32]  * lucent waits for fembots to mow him down
[03:32] <TehRikard> I wiped my ipod twice not dismounting.
[03:33] <cxo> TehRikard, ctl+alt+f1 is a key combo, that will drop you into a shell, did you get it?
[03:33] <Yhapster> lol
[03:33] <lucent> TehRikard: good to know :|
[03:33] <TehRikard> Yep.
[03:33] <Blaqlight> sivel27: also you might want to make your root password alot stronger :P
[03:33] <smultron> what does a plus sign mean at the end of permissions? -rw-rw----+
[03:33] <Yhapster> most things work. just this one thing. ok thanks guys, off to do QEMU install
[03:33] <TehRikard> I logged in as root.
[03:33] <TehRikard> init 3'd
[03:33] <TehRikard> and tried to sh the .run
[03:33] <TehRikard> got into the installer
[03:33] <cxo> yeah
[03:33] <TehRikard> and it told me x was still up
[03:33] <FloodBot1> TehRikard: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:33] <cxo> wtf
[03:33] <guido_> sap: try adding linux as keyword... "avi to divx converter linux"
[03:33] <dubby> hey anyone
[03:34] <lucent> Yhapster: look into "virt-manager"
[03:34] <havocstorm> hey
[03:34] <sap> guido_, umm.. okay
[03:34] <Blaqlight> !hi | dubby
[03:34] <dubby> im trying install ubuntu
[03:34] <havocstorm> does anyone know how to add programs to ubuntu startup?
[03:34] <dubby> on a raid device
[03:34] <sivel27> heres a couple of quick qs- this box is my stroage server, and torrent box, can i set up firestarter to allow those progs?
[03:34] <lucent> Yhapster: it's a front-end gui for managing libvirtd controlled vt stuff, like qemu, kvm, xen
[03:34] <dubby> yet i cannot see my raid device anywhere
[03:34] <z4w3p> ...
[03:34] <guido_> sap: yeah, I know.. it's a long shot.. but there's bound to be one out there
[03:34] <dubby> but instead the drives that comprise it
[03:34] <TehRikard> Anyone? I can NOT figure out how to kill X to install these nvidia drivers :(
[03:34] <dubby> anyone know how to get raid devices working?
[03:34] <lucent> havocstorm: System | Preferences| Sessions
[03:35] <Bonster> havocstorm: sys>perf>session
[03:35] <cxo> TehRikard, try init 2, then
[03:35] <dubby> TehRikard : synaptic can do it for you
[03:35] <Blaqlight> sivel27: it will do whatever you tell it.
[03:35] <havocstorm> lucent, bonster, thanks
[03:35] <sap> guido_, another thing i think might be a hindrance is I probably dont want to burn it in divx format lest it refuses to play on a dvd player
[03:35] <cxo> TehRikard, and give it a sec or two, you might see some messages on the screen
[03:35] <havocstorm> lucent, bonster, hmm, what do I type in the commands?
[03:35] <obidiah> havocstorm: do you have an init script to add?
[03:35] <Blaqlight> it being a torrentbox is prolly why it got hacked in the first place to be frank with you.
[03:35] <guido_> TehRikard: the nvidia drivers from the website? try the ones from synaptic or apt-get..
[03:35] <havocstorm> lucent, bonster, hmm, just to run a program I guess
[03:35] <TehRikard> Synaptic has drivers? Mmm.
[03:35] <lucent> havocstorm: I have no idea
[03:36] <havocstorm> obidiah, just to run a program
[03:36] <lucent> havocstorm: I rarely ever turn off this computer or log out
[03:36] <dubby> anyone with raid devices ?
[03:36] <obidiah> havocstorm: /etc/rc.local
[03:36] <alraun1> ﻿TehRikard:tried envy ?
[03:36] <TehRikard> Whats envy?
[03:36] <guido_> sap: how old would the dvd player in question be? as far as I know, most can play divx
[03:36] <cxo> dubby, i have raid
[03:36] <lucent> dubby: softraid, halfraid, or hard raid?
[03:36] <havocstorm> obidiah, is that the command to run a program?
[03:36] <dubby> ? well i set it up from bios
[03:36] <obidiah> it is a text file
[03:36] <alraun1> ﻿TehRikard:automatic driver installer for ATI/Nvidia
[03:36] <lucent> dubby: probably won't work
[03:36] <lusepuster> lucent, thanks for your help before regarding the sudoers list problem. Found out wha my problem was; someone had given me wrong instructions for using usermod, so I'd removed myself from the admin group...
[03:36] <lucent> lusepuster: ouch
[03:36] <obidiah> it runs as a batch file at startup
[03:37] <sap> guido_, hmm.. actually I have no idea.. I am sending a friend's wedding video to his home country  ;D
[03:37] <dubby> lucent and why not ?
[03:37]  * lucent laughs hysterically
[03:37] <obidiah> put your command before the line with exit 0
[03:37] <TehRikard> where can i find this envy?
[03:37] <lucent> lusepuster: can't remember the last time I did that... it's been years
[03:37] <Blaqlight> guido_: lol the 8 year old dvd player in my car plays divx, it would have to be really old...
[03:37] <havocstorm> obidiah, lol, sorru I'm lost, what's the program that runs firestarter?
[03:37] <lucent> watch though my luck... I'll do it tomorrow when I'm half awake
[03:37] <lusepuster> lucent, there's a first time for everything - and last, hopefully :-)
[03:37] <Yhapster> lucent: will do thanks!
[03:38] <lucent> lusepuster: watch out if you own cats
[03:38] <havocstorm> obidiah, I found the firestarter program, but which file is the executable?
[03:38] <guido_> hey, things happen, people don't upgrade dvd players as often as they do computers Blaqlight ;)
[03:38] <alraun1> ﻿TehRikard:sudo apt-get install  envyng-core envyng-qt envyng-gtk
[03:38] <ejsilver26> Anyone seen the error "No rule to make target `arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.s', needed by `include/asm-x86/asm-offsets.h'.  Stop." and been able to solve it? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
[03:38] <lucent> cats know how to screw with me when I'm typing in sudo commands
[03:38] <abbzabb> would anyone possibly know how to move files from a hard drive to a usb external hard drive through terminal?
[03:38] <Schuenemann> hey, is it possible to uninstall specific screensavers?
[03:38] <dubby> havocstorm: if you installed firestarter through synaptic you have an icon in your applications menu
[03:38] <lucent> abbzabb: should be possible
[03:38] <lucent> abbzabb: is GUI not an option?
[03:38] <dubby> havocstorm: also the command to start the app would be "firestarter"
[03:38] <obidiah> havocstorm: what are you trying to do? modify the firewall or run a program at startup
[03:39] <guido_> I'm trying to fix KDM, whenever I try to close a session or restart the computer it hangs and I have to kill it from another terminal. Any thoughts?
[03:39] <TehRikard> tyvm
[03:39] <alraun1> ﻿TehRikard:after installing ennvy   apps>system>envy...,,,
[03:39] <lucent> Schuenemann: "uninstall"  why?
[03:39] <havocstorm> obidiah, run the program
[03:39] <TehRikard> now if only i could figure out how to get my usb wireless-n belkin card to work
[03:39] <abbzabb> lucent: i'm pretty sure it is. it's probably sudo mv hd/home/ usb/home or something.. sadly gui is not an option
[03:39] <dubby> TehRikard : madwifi
[03:39] <Schuenemann> lucent, I want a random one, but some of the default ones are ugly and boring and I don't want them showing up =;
[03:39] <Blaqlight> guido_: you might try #kubuntu
[03:39] <Schuenemann> =/*
[03:39] <TehRikard> is madwifi on apt-get?
[03:39] <havocstorm> obidiah, dubby, thanks I think I've got it
[03:39] <lucent> abbzabb: err... cp -a source dest
[03:40] <lucent> usually
[03:40] <MTeck> what am i doing wrong?    root@kabbalah:/var/chroot# ldd znc         ldd: ./znc: No such file or directory
[03:40] <guido_> Blaqlight: I'm already there.... people haven't said a word for a while
[03:40] <lucent> abbzabb: starting with Hardy, it's using gvfs for Gnome... but you're talking about Server or something?
[03:40] <alraun1> ﻿TehRikard:checked out synaptic ?
[03:40] <TehRikard> yeah im apt-getting the things you suggested atm.
[03:40] <ejsilver26> TehRikard: I used ndiswrapper (Windows Wireless drivers) to install my D-Link card.
[03:40] <Leefmc> Question: It seems i need Java, what is the main java (ie, a standard java install) package called in the apt repo?
[03:40] <abbzabb> lucent: i tried upgrading my computer, but it froze in the middle and now is stuck generating a locale, so i have to get to the hard drive take all mystuff off and put it onto a usb drive, then reformat the main drive, and bring all the files back on.
[03:41] <TehRikard> sorry if i'm asking stupid questions. i literally dropped ubuntu on my laptop and desktop an hour ago.
[03:41] <Schuenemann> lucent, is it possible?
[03:41] <Blaqlight> !java | Leefmc
[03:41] <Johnny> can someone help me with a theme problem , im trying to get xfce-dusk but after installing all the themes there is nothing in appearnce manager except the standard themes
[03:41] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: Ty
[03:41] <Schuenemann> lucent, or at least find a way to choose which should compose random
[03:41] <Johnny> is this because i set up /home on a different partition?
[03:41] <TehRikard> yeah, i alreayd extracted the inf from the driver disk, ejsilver26, but it won't recognize the hardware is there.
[03:41] <abbzabb> unless of course someone knows how to get passed generating a locale en_AU.UTF-8
[03:41] <lucent> Schuenemann: oh, there's a way to "comment out" .... or at least there was for xscreensaver
[03:42] <havocstorm> hey guys
[03:42] <Schuenemann> lucent, but xscreensaver doesn't use my system screensavers, it brings its own ones, right?
[03:42] <ejsilver26> TehRikard: Ah, I had a hard time with mine as well. madwifi might work for you. Didn't for me. But we have different hardware.
[03:42] <lucent> Schuenemann: poke around google search for gnome screensaver and the list of active screensavers, you might find a reference to it with electricsheep ( which often necessitated a config mod of gnome screensaver to get it to show up)
[03:42] <TehRikard> well
[03:43] <TehRikard> after i grab mad-wifi tools from synaptic
[03:43] <TehRikard> wheres it go? i cant seem to find it
[03:43] <Blaqlight> Schuenemann: xscreensaver has its screensavers.
[03:43] <guido_> !xgl
[03:43] <lusepuster> Schuenemann, I think installing xscreensaver would do it - it has, if I recall correctly, a few more options thyan the default one
[03:43] <lucent> Schuenemann: I haven't the time resources to check this out for you
[03:44] <Schuenemann> lusepuster, doesn't it add its own screensavers?
[03:44] <lusepuster> Shuenemann, one of which is ticking/unticking those you don't want for random screensavers
[03:44] <lucent> abbzabb: yeah, don't sweat it
[03:44] <ejsilver26> Anyone else having sound issues with 8.04? I've been trying to fix my sound for 2 weeks....
[03:44] <Schuenemann> lusepuster, but the ones shown there aren't the ones I have in my desktop
[03:44] <lucent> abbzabb: you could boot a livecd and do that pretty easily
[03:44] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26:hardware ?
[03:45] <lusepuster> Schuenemann, I didn't understand that one...?
[03:45] <michael_> hello nube here....have ubuntu and with 1 wk worth of learning ....still sorta lost but love the system w/o windows...have linux on this machine and windows on the other....with dlink inbetween...cant seem to see my other window machine >>> any suggestions??
[03:45] <lusepuster> You have where?
[03:45] <Blaqlight> ejsilver26: if it had been 7.10 Id be in the same boat as you, with 8.04 its worked flawlessly out of the box.
[03:45] <TehRikard> after i grab mad-wifi tools from synaptic, wheres it go? i cant find it
[03:45] <havocstorm> does anyone know how to start up a program in ubuntu minimised?
[03:45] <Schuenemann> lusepuster, you know, the ones that came with my system and those I installed. I lists different ones
[03:45] <lucent> michael_: filesharing?
[03:45] <ejsilver26> alraun1: SIS AC'97 (SI7012)
[03:45] <michael_> yes
[03:45] <michael_> on other machine and i think this one too
[03:45] <ejsilver26> Blaqlight: 7.10 worked perfectly for me, 8.04 killed t.
[03:45] <lucent> havocstorm: not supported by Metacity... might be supported by a compiz fusion plugin
[03:46] <lucent> havocstorm: it's a window manager thing
[03:46] <Blaqlight> crimsun is the audio expert, you might want to ask him.
[03:46] <lusepuster> Schuenemann, try installing the xscreens package, I think that'll give you the option...  Where do you say they're listed differently?aver
[03:46] <Schuenemann> lusepuster, in xscreen
[03:46] <abbzabb> lucent: heh i'm on a live cd, and it says i don't have permissions to copy it from the hard drive
[03:46] <abbzabb> haha
[03:46] <TehRikard> whoever suggested madwifi, where do you access it from after oy install it?
[03:46] <dubby> anyone is it possible to install applications from live-cd
[03:46] <crimsun> ejsilver26: what's the issue?
[03:47] <dubby> modprobe
[03:47] <dubby> lol
[03:47] <lucent> abbzabb: weird... maybe it wasn't cleanly unmounted
[03:47] <ejsilver26> crimsun: No sound. Period. Nothing is muted, been trying to fix the damned thing for 2 weeks.
[03:47] <havocstorm> lucent, k I'll look into it
[03:47] <lucent> abbzabb: are you copying from an NTFS partition or something?
[03:47] <vaylence> I'm having trouble installing, can anyone help?
[03:47] <lucent> havocstorm: apt-get install simple-ccsm to get the config interface
[03:47] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: Is a reboot required? I installed it and it still doesn't seem to be working on a site
[03:48] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: Note that i did the -version check, and made sure to apply the jre6 version
[03:48] <TehRikard> rofl :( Cmon. Theres no CLI command of "madwifi"
[03:48] <Blaqlight> it shouldn't require it.
[03:48] <TehRikard> And its not in any of the menus.
[03:48] <cris> hello
[03:48] <cris> anyone awake?
[03:48] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: try it anyway, it can't hurt.
[03:48] <crimsun> ejsilver26: run the alsa-info.sh script and tell me the url
[03:48] <vaylence> I get to the partitioner but cant get past, ubuntu isnt letting me format the whole hard drive :o(
[03:48] <TehRikard> any other suggestions on how to get my USB Belkin wireless N card to work? It's not being detected.
[03:49] <Johnny> how do i install xfce-dusk by itself?
[03:49] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: also
[03:49] <cris> i just got to know the totem p[layer, nice prog
[03:49] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: is this in firefox?
[03:49] <lucent> TehRikard: "detected"
[03:49] <lucent> ?
[03:49] <ejsilver26> crimsun: Where is that located?
[03:50] <TehRikard> Well, I'm sorry, excuse that: let me be more specific.
[03:50] <MTeck> How do I fix this? root@kabbalah:/var/chroot# ldd znc         ldd: ./znc: No such file or directory
[03:50] <TehRikard> An ifconfig yields an "wmaster0-00" interface.
[03:50] <crimsun> ejsilver26: http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh
[03:50] <TehRikard> As well as a wlan0 interface.
[03:50] <TehRikard> Which is my OTHER wireless card.
[03:50] <TehRikard> A PCI one.
[03:50] <TehRikard> That's a POS.
[03:50] <Johnny> i installed xfce4 and its still not in preferences > apperance
[03:50] <FloodBot1> TehRikard: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <abbzabb> lucent: i'm not too sure, one is linux, the other might be windows
[03:51] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: Try what? I said i already did try the version 6 jre. And yes, it is in firefox. Sorry for the late reply
[03:51] <havocstorm> hey guys
[03:51] <TehRikard> Could having a PCI wireless card installed at the same time as having a Belkin USB Wireless-N adapter plugged in be causing an issue?
[03:51] <havocstorm> Is there a command that closes the window of a program
[03:51] <havocstorm> but not the program
[03:51] <Blaqlight> Johnny: log out and log into your xfce session.
[03:51] <havocstorm> I have firestarter on startup
[03:51] <abbzabb> lucent: my the hd is linux and the usb is possibly from windows, pretty much out of the box.
[03:51] <havocstorm> but the window always pops up
[03:52] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: open firefox and type about:plugins into the addressbar
[03:52] <havocstorm> is there a command I can include in the startup that closes  the windows to the tray icon?
[03:52] <lucent> abbzabb: if NTFS is not cleanly unmounted, you will need to boot into windows, reboot, boot into windows, reboot, boot into windows, reboot
[03:52] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: is java listed there?
[03:52] <lucent> abbzabb: otherwise it won't be readable from the Live CD
[03:52] <ejsilver26> crimsun: Just a sec... running it now.
[03:53] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: There is no existance of "java " (with space, to separate it from javascript.). And im not seeing any existence of a java runtime, only javascript
[03:53] <abbzabb> lucent: trying to get files off of linux hard drive.
[03:53] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: try rebooting.
[03:53] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26:could you pastebin your /etc/modules     file ?
[03:53] <GraniteGargoyle> hello
[03:53] <omar> hi, my CDRW is not recognized anymore, I was using gnomebaker to burn something but it froze and I had to kill the app. Now when I insert the CD, I cant even erase it, nor rewrite it, do you think the CDRW is screwed?
[03:54] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: Will do. Will desktop work? (ctrl+alt+backspace), or will a full reboot be required
[03:54] <lucent> abbzabb: oh ...  I wonder, how to browse as root user with nautilus?
[03:54] <Blaqlight> not sure try both. firefox about:plugins after both.
[03:54] <glitsj16> havocstorm: you don't need to run firestarter all the time for its rules to be active (as it is only a frontend for iptables), but if you want to, there's a "--start-hidden" switch you can use
[03:54] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: I'll just full to save time hehe, brb then
[03:55] <Blaqlight> if neither work then we have to point firefox towards your binary
[03:55] <scifiguy951> how can i get onto other networks?
[03:55] <GraniteGargoyle> is Wine what I would use to get Windows games running under this?
[03:55] <havocstorm> glits16, thanks
[03:55] <ejsilver26> crimsun: Having trouble running the file.. sec....
[03:55] <abbzabb> lucent: is there a way to browse as root through nautilus (i'm on a live cd now)
[03:55] <ejsilver26> alraun1: I'll do that... 1 sec.
[03:56] <lucent> abbzabb: that's what we need to figure out, I have no idea :/
[03:56] <lusepuster> GraniteGargoyle, depends on which games. Not all run in wine
[03:56] <crimsun> ejsilver26: requires bash
[03:56] <wols_> GraniteGargoyle: yes
[03:56] <GraniteGargoyle> thank you
[03:56] <lucent> abbzabb: from a terminal you could try "sudo nautilus"
[03:56] <GraniteGargoyle> older laptop so prolly like Diablo 2 and such
[03:56] <TehRikard|ECHO> where can i configure the graphics options in ubuntu? compiz like special effects, i mean.
[03:56] <lusepuster> GraniteGargoyle, there's a database of supported games and apps on the wine web site
[03:57] <TehRikard|ECHO> nm got it.
[03:57] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: apt-get install simple-ccsm
[03:57] <GraniteGargoyle> sweet, thanks lusepuster
[03:57] <entropy51423> Most main stream games are in the DB, and a ton of games that are unknown to me
[03:57] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: there's an advanced compiz config GUI that's not in by default
[03:57] <ejsilver26> alraun1: http://pastebin.com/d20867221
[03:57] <Kohlrak> what's the terminal command for getting the size remaining on the current partition?
[03:57] <TehRikard|ECHO> getting it now
[03:57] <GraniteGargoyle> sorry for the questions but just installed this tonight
[03:57] <ejsilver26> crimsun: ok... sec.
[03:57] <TehRikard|ECHO> any recommendations on where to pick up a darker theme for gnome?
[03:57] <obidiah> kohlrak: df
[03:58] <GraniteGargoyle> like it so far
[03:58] <Kohlrak> thank you
[03:58] <TehRikard|ECHO> the only ones that come by default are hig hcontrast bull.
[03:58] <Blaqlight> lucent: its called ccsm or compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:58] <guido_> !xgl
[03:58] <entropy51423> Completely understandable GraniteGargoyle
[03:58] <crimsun> ejsilver26: I'm away for about 30 minutes, but I'll be back.  Just stick around in #ubuntu-audio-help, please.
[03:58] <lucent> Blaqlight: that's the one!
[03:58] <lusepuster> GraniteGargoyle, don't apologize! That's what community support is for. Google is your friend in many questions though. Will probably bring you to a thread on Ubuntuforums...
[03:58] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: I remember seeing some type of error during installation, so imma try a complete removal and reinstall (then reboot)
[03:58] <ejsilver26> crimsun: ok.
[03:58] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26:could you pastebin your  /etc/modules     file ?
[03:59] <TehRikard|ECHO> hm. keeps freezing on connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com when i try to use apt-get
[03:59] <GraniteGargoyle> anyone know about grafx settings under this OS? Trying to use the effects and it won't let me
[03:59] <lucent> Blaqlight: I remember that simple-ccsm drags it in as a dep
[03:59] <TehRikard|ECHO> they're servers drop out?
[03:59] <TehRikard|ECHO> their*
[03:59] <entropy51423> Google Unix commands, Linux How-Tos, and Free Online Linux Ebooks for more help Granite
[03:59] <ejsilver26> alraun1: sorry, I pastebin'd my /lib/modules... sec...
[03:59] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26:(terminal)gedit /etc/modules  > copy n paste
[03:59] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: I've seen that before, it happens sometimes... servers don't play nice
[03:59] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: usually it's a DNS issue
[03:59] <t35t0r> does anyone know how to get the audio that's being fed directly into ALSA?
[03:59] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: make note of the error.
[04:00] <GraniteGargoyle> thanks, use to googling windows problems, this is new :)
[04:00] <lucent> t35t0r: explain?
[04:00] <ejsilver26> alraun1: http://pastebin.com/d67f85086
[04:00] <lusepuster> GraniteGargoyle, under Appearance, there's a tab with desktop effects. There might be driver issues though, depends on your card.
[04:00] <entropy51423> It also helps to find a good Linux Forum
[04:00] <TehRikard|ECHO> i really need to figure out why my usb wireless card won't show up under lspci
[04:00] <TehRikard|ECHO> cause my pci one is g, and i want to connect to my n network :(
[04:00] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: sorry, this one is obvious to me, but must be difficult to you
[04:00] <entropy51423> Linux.com is a pretty good site
[04:00] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: lsusb
[04:00] <omar> !ntfs-3g
[04:00] <Johnny> firefox keeps freezing with little or no provocation
[04:00] <GraniteGargoyle> luse it's an ati mobility that is several years old, believe it's about a 7900
[04:01] <TehRikard|ECHO> ah. ok. well, there it is
[04:01] <TehRikard|ECHO> Belkin Components.
[04:01] <entropy51423> of course ubuntu.com is also good
[04:01] <t35t0r> lucent, some source -> some data (mp3, wav, whatever) -> alsa -> sound drivers -> out to speakers ..how do i grab the data ?
[04:01] <omar> !ntfs-3g
[04:01] <TehRikard|ECHO> but.. why won't it use it?
[04:01] <Blaqlight> usb is scanned from the pci bus?
[04:01] <TehRikard|ECHO> Hey, I didn't even know what lspci meant, ok? :/
[04:01] <lucent> t35t0r: you could record, and set your device's capture source to PCM
[04:01] <Ademan> is it possible to set the exact command firefox will run to handle a certain file? i can set the program that will be run, but the program (unfortunately) needs options, and therefore i need to have more control than what firefox's preferences provides
[04:01] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: Well i installed it twice with no error, all it was (i think) was that i clicked forward on an acceptance page without seeing the check box for accepting the terms. Well then i got some did not install correctly message
[04:01] <lucent> t35t0r: depends on the hardware.
[04:01] <TehRikard|ECHO> I mean, if I had considered it, I would have. But I didn't, because I'm a retarded stoner.
[04:01] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: But this is now the second time it installed correctly.. heh, so no luck yet
[04:02] <t35t0r> ok ..
[04:02] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26:(terminal) sudo gedit /etc/modules , add a line :  snd-intel8x0m
[04:02] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: perhaps aptitude purge is needed, that does better than synaptics complete removal doesn't it?
[04:03] <TehRikard|NARC> So, if it sees my Belkin device in lsusb, why isn't it showing up in ifconfig? All I have is my ethernet interfaces, wlan0, and wmaster0.
[04:03] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: this is the name of the plugin in my firefox : gcjwebplugin.so
[04:03] <TehRikard|NARC> wlan0 is my PCI wireless card.
[04:03] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: and it uses icedtea.
[04:03] <ejsilver26> alraun1: ok, done.
[04:03] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: icedtea?
[04:03] <Blaqlight> !info | Icedtea
[04:03] <bartek> Hi there...has anyone here been able to get their ATI card using a non-vesa driver? Both fglrx, ati, and radeon drivers either crash my pc to a black screen, or simply turn my monitors off
[04:04] <Blaqlight> !icedtea
[04:04] <MethodOne> bartek, which one do you have?
[04:04] <entropy51423> What Radeon do you have?
[04:04] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys!
[04:04] <bartek> ATI Radeon X850XT
[04:04] <Blaqlight> ok thats not working
[04:04] <TehRikard|NARC> So, if it sees my Belkin wireless device in lsusb, why isn't it showing up in ifconfig? All I have is my ethernet interfaces, wlan0, and wmaster0, where wlan0 is my PCI Linksys wireless card.
[04:04] <Drk_Guy> I'm having issues with the exit applet
[04:04] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: ifconfig -a
[04:05] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base
[04:05] <TehRikard|NARC> Same results.
[04:05] <Blaqlight> !hi | Drk_Guy
[04:05] <t35t0r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=692440
[04:05] <Drk_Guy> When i press it, my system freezes, my mouse works, but the system won't react
[04:05] <glitsj16> Ademan: have you tried putting the needed commands into a bash script and point firefox to that ? should do the trick if you make that script executable i believe ..
[04:05] <Drk_Guy> :(
[04:05] <entropy51423> I am not too experienced with Radeon, but am considering getting a HD 4850, but if it won't work then I shouldn't
[04:05] <bartek> entropy51423: ATI Radeon X850XT .. sorry :)
[04:05] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Ok, done.
[04:05] <Drk_Guy> entropy51423, ATi sucks with Linux, get an Nvidia if you have the chance
[04:06] <Ademan> glitsj16: yeah, that would work, that's kinda my last resort though, i feel like this should be possible (since firefox just stores a string internally anyways...)
[04:06] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: Well i havent restarted yet, but i purged, and reinstalled via apt, no luck still
[04:06] <Drk_Guy> I'm having issues with the exit applet
[04:06] <Drk_Guy> entropy51423, ATi sucks with Linux, get an Nvidia if you have the chance
[04:06] <entropy51423> I can't afford the competitor from Nvida
[04:06] <Drk_Guy> When i press it, my system freezes, my mouse works, but the system won't react
[04:06] <FloodBot1> Drk_Guy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: can u start the alsa-mixer?
[04:06] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: do you use apt-get or aptitude?
[04:06] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Yup..
[04:07] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: I used aptitude to purge and install this last time
[04:07] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: see your card in the top ?
[04:07] <ejsilver26> alraun1: nothing is muted.
[04:07] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Yup.
[04:07] <glitsj16> Ademan: well yes, you might be able to manipulate that if it's somewhere in the firefox profile
[04:07] <Drk_Guy> I'm having issues with the exit applet
[04:07] <Blaqlight> and there is no mention of it in about:plugins eh?
[04:07] <Drk_Guy> When i press it, my system freezes, my mouse works, but the system won't react
[04:07] <lucent> Ademan: it's considered normal to whip up a script to run your command, like you're describing, and save it to ~/bin/name_of_script.sh
[04:08] <lucent> Ademan: FYI... that's just the normal thing as far as I know it
[04:08] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: above the sliders, there are speaker-icons, they have to be green..
[04:08] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183825 , I'm trying that (with 6 instead of 5)
[04:08] <TehRikard|ECHO> Ok.
[04:08] <mhz128> hi all
[04:08] <TehRikard|ECHO> I've rebooted and removed the PCI wireless card.
[04:08] <TehRikard|ECHO> I have a Belkin USB Wireless-N card that refuses to show up in ifconfig
[04:09] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: Worked!
[04:09] <TehRikard|ECHO> The blue light is on, indicating it's receiving power.
[04:09] <ejsilver26> alraun1: I have no speaker icons (I'm using alsamixer in the terminal, did you want a graphic one?)
[04:09] <Ahadiel> TehRikard|ECHO, ifconfig -a?
[04:09] <Blaqlight> my internet is way to slow to check out any sites, sorry.
[04:09] <mhz128> How do I force VLC or other mp3 players to open a file in the same window? instead of opening a new instance each time
[04:09] <TehRikard|ECHO> lsusb provides a device with Belkin Components label.,
[04:09] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: really?!?
[04:09] <TehRikard|ECHO> nope
[04:09] <TehRikard|ECHO> just my two ethernet interfaces and hte loopback
[04:09] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: So sun-java6-plugin is what is required
[04:09] <cris> can u tell me the command to see what vdeo driver i got???
[04:09] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: above the sliders, there are speaker-icons, they have to be green..  (left mouseclick)|  apps>multimedia>alsamixer-gui  ,yo
[04:09] <keanu> is there any way to increase the range of my broadcom wifi card? (that I so ever hate)
[04:09] <Ahadiel> TehRikard|ECHO, How about iwconfig?
[04:10] <TehRikard|ECHO> lo, eth0, eth1
[04:10] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Ok, I started the GUI alsamixer. Yes, they are all green.
[04:10] <cris> ﻿can u tell me the command to see what video driver i got???
[04:10] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: at this point you might have to realize that your device doesn't have a native driver ;P...    and to try ndiswrapper or search for a native driver and do some research on your own :(
[04:10] <lucent> cris: AFAIK there isn't one
[04:10] <TehRikard|ECHO> how do i use ndiswrapper?
[04:10] <cris> there is one lnscp or something like thast
[04:10] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: not just volume, but also pcm slider risen ?
[04:10] <keanu> based on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/+bug/201225/comments/28 it seems that the tx power isn't set as high as with ndiswrapper
[04:10] <lucent> cris: what I suggest is searching through your /var/log/Xorg.log.0 to see what it says
[04:11] <zelrikriando> hello
[04:11] <zelrikriando> so
[04:11] <ejsilver26> alraun1: All sliders are all the way up.
[04:11] <cris> there was a command i could type in the terminal to get a list, but i dont remeber anymore. cna u help me?
[04:11] <TehRikard|ECHO> how do I use ndiswrpaper?
[04:11] <zelrikriando> Is there an simple way to acces an history of installed/uninstalled packages via synaptic or other?
[04:11] <keanu> very frustrating when there's a WinXP computer farther from the AP than me and can game using wifi (without dropping the connection) while my connection drops every five minutes
[04:11] <newbyx86> OS X IS AMAZING
[04:11] <newbyx86> that is all
[04:11] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: do you hear a sound at bootup/login time ?
[04:12] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Not a peep.
[04:12] <lucent> newbyx86: buy me a copy of it?  oh and a mac book?  and applecare?
[04:12] <newbyx86> haha
[04:12] <lucent> >:)
[04:12] <newbyx86> I got all that while I was up at uc davis
[04:12] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: shure hw is in order ? wrong jack ?
[04:12] <newbyx86> for likr $2000
[04:12] <keanu> any tips on how to increase the tx power?
[04:12] <newbyx86> lowend macbook w/ extra 2gb of rm + applecare
[04:12] <newbyx86> :D
[04:12] <cris> ﻿there was a command i could type in the terminal to get a list, but i dont remeber anymore. cna u help me?
[04:13] <imageek> cris, list of what?
[04:13] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Notebook computer. Was working fine in 7.10, nothing after the upgrade to 8.04.
[04:13] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: so your good to go?
[04:13] <ejsilver26> alraun1: No sound out of either internal speakers or headphoes.
[04:13] <TehRikard|ECHO> Ok, this is WEIRD.
[04:13] <TehRikard|ECHO> So I go to ndiswrapper, and there is already a drive rin use for my device
[04:13] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: Yup! So just fyi, seems sun-java6-plugin is basically required during a java install :)
[04:13] <TehRikard|ECHO> and yet its STILL not showing in ifconfig
[04:14] <glitsj16> zelrikriando: in synaptic you'll find that under "file > history" via the menu
[04:14] <TehRikard|ECHO> anyone have any ideas?
[04:14] <storm-zen> I have a single prompt, "GRUB " on a black screen.  Can someone point me to the right FAQ to fix it, please?  It's not so google-able...
[04:14] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: return it, get one that works with a native driver.
[04:14] <TehRikard|ECHO> ive had this card for months :(
[04:14] <zelrikriando> glitsj16, thanks, I almost posted a feature request in brainstorm :D
[04:14] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: ask someone who has it working in Ubuntu how they did it
[04:14] <keanu> no tips on how to increase tx power/range for a broadcom wifi card?
[04:14] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r),   if not done...
[04:14] <lucent> TehRikard|ECHO: otherwise, I don't think you'll find a soul who wants to deal with a proprietary mess :(
[04:14] <glitsj16> zelrikriando: :p
[04:15] <ejsilver26> alraun1: I believe I did that, but I'll do it again for S&G...
[04:15] <l3d> I would like to make the kde apps use the gtk theme can this be done with out the use of kcontrol
[04:15] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Nothing to upgrade/install/remove/modify/bend/fold/mutilate/spindle...
[04:16] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: I suspect that my java is old or no longer in use, nobody seems to know anything about it.
[04:16] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: ..and also from adept-manager, install alsa packages (i.e. alsa firmwareloaders)
[04:16] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: hehe
[04:16] <ejsilver26> alraun1: I've installed the latest/greatest.... I'll check again...
[04:16] <Blaqlight> Leefmc: which would explain also why yahoo pool doesn't work.
[04:17] <Leefmc> :o
[04:17] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Synaptic good enough?
[04:17] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: never wrong : yup
[04:17] <david123> anyone know of a window manager or theme for gnome/ubuntu thats as fast as xfce but friendly as gnome and not needing configuration like fluxbox?
[04:17] <ejsilver26> kk
[04:17] <keanu> no tips on how to increase tx power/range for a broadcom wifi card?
[04:17] <t35t0r> nope still can't record the pcm
[04:17] <MTeck> anybody know what i'm doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/d9f43634
[04:17] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Searching now...
[04:17] <MTeck> I tried to set up a jail for znc
[04:17] <Blaqlight> ive got about 4 days left on a WoW update so Im kinda outta lick for now.
[04:17] <Drk_Guy> I'm having issues with the exit applet
[04:18] <Drk_Guy> When i press it, my system freezes, my mouse works, but the system won't react
[04:18] <crashsystems> @MTeck what is znc?
[04:18] <lucent> david123: Metacity?
[04:18] <Leefmc> Blaqlight: Heh, just tryin out yahoo texttwist seems slow as hell though
[04:18] <lucent> lame
[04:18] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: have you tried just straight CTRL ALT BKSP
[04:18] <MTeck> crashsystems, irc proxy - It's set up right - but I'm not getting the jail to work
[04:19] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, That's my only way out
[04:19] <ejsilver26> alraun1: I'm adding the firmware loaders, even though they are not for my card... gimme a sec.
[04:19] <crashsystems> ﻿@MTeck I've never tried to do a jail before. Are you setting one up for security reasons?
[04:19] <ekow> can anyone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5454493#post5454493
[04:19] <keanu> any tips on how to increase tx power/range for a broadcom wifi card?
[04:19] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: and you have the latest version of gnome-panel?
[04:20] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, Backports enabled
[04:20] <omar> hi, I got a CDRW that was half written (the burner app froze), so I try to burn it but I cant, brasero doesnt recognize any CD, but if I try to mount it, it gives me an UDF partition error, any ideas how to get the CD working back?
[04:20] <MTeck> crashsystems, yup - once i figure out a jail for this - i'm doing the same for apache
[04:20] <glitsj16> MTeck: as it complains of not finding the znc config files, have you tried putting those inside the jail ?
[04:20] <GraniteGargoyle> where do you look to see a list of hardware on your system under Ubuntu?
[04:20] <crashsystems> ﻿@MTeck I cannot remember where, but I recall someone saying that it is actually not that difficult for an attacker to break out of jail, despite the name.
[04:21] <l3d> I would like to make the kde apps use the gtk theme can this be done with out the use of kcontrol
[04:21] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: in moduls it was missing, too  ;; I'm sorry for one of my boxes being down using the same chip (desktop, sound worked out the box)
[04:21] <Flannel> MTeck: chroot is not meant for security
[04:21] <MTeck> glitsj16, ya, inside of /var/chroot/home/bouncer/.znc/configs
[04:21] <MTeck> Flannel, what are they meant for?
[04:21] <Gnea> ekow: have you tried making a new panel?
[04:21] <Flannel> MTeck: http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Abusing_chroot
[04:21] <keanu> would an intel 4965agn have better range?
[04:21] <Drk_Guy>  Blaqlight ???
[04:21] <bartek> This isnt really ubuntu related but does Ubuntu use X Windows?
[04:21] <ejsilver26> alraun1: ok... Well, we'll see if we can make this work. I'd be forever in your debt... :)
[04:22] <Gnea> bartek: yes
[04:22] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: I totally missed what you said
[04:22] <ejsilver26> alraun1: I'd be able to watch YouTube again with sound (It's just not the same if it's not a talkie...)
[04:22] <bartek> ok ... I'm reading about Modeline's for xorg.conf and I guess it's applicable then, thanks Gnea
[04:22] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, Backports enabled
[04:22] <robdig> ekow: use ALT+F2 to run gconf-editor and change the value in the key /apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel_screen0/size. The default value is 24.
[04:22] <glitsj16> MTeck: not familiar with znc, but it might have a switch to point it to those, i assume it still looks for those in the default location ?
[04:22] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Ok... done.. it's installed... next? :)
[04:22] <Gnea> bartek: look in /etc/X11/ :)
[04:22] <Blaqlight> are you asking if they should be, shouldn't be, are, aren't what?
[04:23] <Flannel> MTeck: they allow you to house something is a separate/sanitary environment (32bit on 64bit, etc) for a number of purposes.
[04:23] <bartek> Gnea: oh I have..too much alreayd tonight :p
[04:23] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: did you ever tried sound with live cd (radio stream or so ?)  you could then look up /etc/modules
[04:23] <ekow> Gnea: no but i did try putting the upper task bar on the bottom instead, my panels always expand on the bottom but not the top
[04:23] <bartek> getting this monitor to work on this card is fun
[04:23] <MTeck> Flannel, so setting the thing up in there won't do much good?
[04:23] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, I mean, i have latest version on repos
[04:23] <ekow> robdig: ok i'll try thanks!
[04:23] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Havn't tried that, no...
[04:23] <Gnea> ekow: try making one on the side and sliding it to the top and see what happens
[04:24] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: do the always : apt-get udate, try a reboot
[04:24] <keanu> would an intel 4965agn have better range than the broadcom card i'm stuck using, that's disconnecting every ~5 minutes?
[04:24] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: ok, try killall gnome-panel and see if it works on reload.
[04:24] <ekow> Gnea: i've tried that too, i'm gonna try what robdig suggested, thanks
[04:24] <ejsilver26> alraun1: ok... I'll reboot now... BRB
[04:24] <Gnea> ekow: d'oh, what about the panel properties?
[04:24] <crashsystems> ﻿@MTeck I think it would provide a _little bit_ of extra security, but only in that it would make the attacker walk through one more step. If they are smart enough to get into a fully patched ubuntu box, then this will not be a problem for them.
[04:25] <Flannel> MTeck: What are you setting up? and whta is your definition of "doing good"?
[04:25] <ekow> Gnea: one sec brb
[04:25] <Gnea> ekow: try changing the orientation a couple times
[04:25] <hou5ton> you know ... no matter what wireless windows driver I download (.inf) ... System / Administration / Windows Wireless Drivers always tells me it's invalid.  ???
[04:25] <MTeck> Flannel, idk... I'll just stick with my proxy w/o extra stuff - i was just trying to follow a guide
[04:25] <Gnea> hou5ton: are you setting ndiswrapper up correctly?
[04:26] <keanu> would an intel 4965agn have better range than the broadcom card i'm stuck using, that keeps disconnecting?
[04:26] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, Nope
[04:26] <Blaqlight> !repeat | keanu
[04:26] <hou5ton> Gnea:  well ... I think so .. but I don't have much experience with it?   So .. I probably wouldn't know for sure.
[04:26] <hou5ton> Gnea:  I know I've spent a LOT of time trying to get this working ...
[04:27] <Gnea> !ndiswrapper | hou5ton
[04:27] <rafaelscj> how do I to config my wireless ip with iwconfig? I am using eth1:avahi's ip only...
[04:27] <keanu> sorry Blaqlight - it's just really frustrating - i've had to reconnect three times already because of it dropping out - that to me makes wifi near worthless
[04:27] <Gnea> hou5ton: give that a read and make sure you follow the procedure correctly - if that doesn't get the .inf to work right, let us know what went wrong
[04:27] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: thats really strange.
[04:27] <lucent> broadcom = fecal matter.  avoid whenever possible.  The Broadcom company itself is a sham, run by a drug abusing sex-fiend (see articles about the CEO's sex dungeon in his mansion), oh yeah and they're somewhat hostile towards Linux developers.
[04:28] <ludwig> anyone have luck with the latest beta nvidia driver?
[04:28] <Gnea> !broadcom
[04:28] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, Weird, in my mom's account it works fine
[04:28] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: usually its not one applet that gives problems but the whole panel or nothing,
[04:28] <lucent> I wish I were making that up.
[04:28] <Gnea> lucent: you.. worked there?
[04:28] <Flannel> lucent: That's not really appropriate, or topical.  Please refrain from it in the future
[04:28] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, Should i remove it and put it again?
[04:29] <l3d> I would like to make the kde apps use the gtk theme can this be done with out the use of kcontrol
[04:29] <keanu> lucent, i have b43 running, it's just the range is horrible
[04:29] <dunas> What's the command to install the nonfree plugins, flash, mp3, etc?
[04:29] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: anything is worth a try, but it sounds like the applet itself is bad or corrupt or sending the wrong signal
[04:29] <lucent> Gnea: the sex dungeon made the news recently, it was kind of a big deal.   That BCM has been hostile towards Linux developers is sort of an ongoing thing though.
[04:29] <Gnea> dunas: would it help you better to know the command how to FIND them?
[04:29] <alraun1> dunas:apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:30] <dunas> Gnea, Most likely.
[04:30] <Gnea> lucent: ah, ok. we should probably take it to the #ubuntu-offtopic room then
[04:30] <alraun1> Gmea: :)
[04:30] <ekow> robdig: changing that value just increased the scale, i just want to increase the length of the panel...
[04:30] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, nope
[04:30] <Gnea> dunas: apt-cache search flash
[04:30] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: anything is worth a try, but it sounds like the applet itself is bad or corrupt or sending the wrong signal
[04:31] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, :/
[04:31] <robdig> ekow: hmm
[04:31] <dunas> Gnea, thank you.
[04:31] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Well, that was exciting... same as always... :)
[04:31] <GraniteGargoyle> where can you look in Ubuntu to see your hardware...IE Grafx card
[04:32]  * ejsilver26 ponders giving up... 
[04:32] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, Not even System -> Exit works
[04:32] <dwarme> Granite, you can go to system -> Preferences -Hardware info usually
[04:32] <lucent> keanu: I've had similar experiences on 3 installs, 2 are laptops the other a desktop.   Kind of sort of works, slow to come up in nm-applet, ultimately unplesant to use
[04:32] <dwarme> if not, do a sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[04:33] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: no idea then
[04:33] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Any other ideas? :)
[04:33] <GraniteGargoyle> hmmm hardware info not in the list
[04:33] <lucent> keanu: intel wireless is working fabulously for everything except kismet ;)
[04:33] <ekow> anyone else have any ideas to fix this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5454493#post5454493
[04:33]  * ComanDos :D
[04:33] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: velly strange, as device shows up in alsa, but I'm not shure for the right driver in modules and can't look it up here> live cd
[04:33]  * ComanDos yo
[04:33] <keanu> lucent, do intel cards have better range?
[04:33] <dwarme> ok granite open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install hardinfo"
[04:33] <dwarme> without the quotes
[04:33] <hou5ton> Gnea:  when it says to "untar" it ... does that mean right click and open, or is there a specific tar command that should be used ... like tar -xvf... whatever?
[04:33] <Gnea> lucent: btw, that's last year's news
[04:33] <crashsystems> I like the idea of a chroot like mechanism for securing server programs, though chroot isn't meant for that. Does anyone know of a tool like chroot, but that is meant for security?
[04:33] <Drk_Guy> Blaqlight, -.-
[04:33]  * ComanDos me qi diqka sko jo?
[04:33] <dwarme> and when its installed a new icon will be at the bottom called System Profiler and Benchmark
[04:33] <ejsilver26> alraun1: All the places I've looked show the same drivers. I've been to the alsa site and they tell me to use the same drivers I am using now.
[04:34]  * ComanDos slaps foka...
[04:34] <GraniteGargoyle> *sounding very stupid* how do I open a terminal
[04:34] <foka> !?
[04:34] <sugi> i have p4 1.8 ghz, 1gb ddr, 9600 se.  Does anyone know if I can play Morrowind with wine?
[04:34] <lucent> GraniteGargoyle: it's never explained aloud
[04:34] <dwarme> hehe go to Applications -> Accesories -> Terminal
[04:34] <Gnea> hou5ton: you can do it whatever you way you like - me, i'll click on it and then extract from there sometimes, or i'll just cd to it and tar xzvf file.tar.gz
[04:34] <GraniteGargoyle> oh ok
[04:34] <ejsilver26> alraun1: It is very strange. By all accounts it should be working. sucks to be me, I guess... :)
[04:34] <dwarme> type that in and hit enter
[04:34]  * ComanDos foka MpuCh!
[04:34] <robdig> ekow: these three commands should re-initialize your panel...
[04:34] <dwarme> and it should ask for a y/n
[04:34] <robdig> ekow: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel
[04:34]  * lucent whispers to GraniteGargoyle "Applications | Accessories | Terminal"
[04:34] <dwarme> just hit Y and enter and it'll install the profiler.
[04:34] <foka> ComanDos, Hi, eh, what's up?
[04:35] <robdig> ekow: killall gnome-panel
[04:35] <Flannel> !english | ComanDos
[04:35] <robdig> ekow: gnome-panel &
[04:35] <GraniteGargoyle> ahhhh there it is, I learnt something :p
[04:35] <foka> Is ComanDos a bot?
[04:35] <dwarme> =)
[04:35] <ekow> robdig: ok where do i type those?
[04:35]  * ComanDos no
[04:35]  * ComanDos lol
[04:35] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: still got the Installer)live cd ?
[04:35] <dwarme> Granite let me know if that works for you.
[04:35]  * ComanDos foka are u. fine?
[04:35] <robdig> ekow: in a terminal...
[04:35] <Flannel> ComanDos: Please stay on topic.
[04:35] <crashsystems> You are my friend ubottu.
[04:35] <robdig> ekow: applications->accessories->terminal
[04:35] <ejsilver26> alraun1: I have the 7.10 one, but not one for 8.04
[04:36] <ekow> robdig: right ok, i'll give them a try thanks
[04:36] <lucent> keanu: I haven't done many tests to give you an answer based on fact?  but that said I've managed to break into most of the wifi AP's nearby and change the SSIDs to politically themed phrases
[04:36] <crimsun> ejsilver26: so...
[04:36] <lucent> keanu: so the range is at least better than the BCM crap
[04:36] <ejsilver26> crimsun: I pasted the url in the other channel for you.
[04:36] <dwarme> Granite did it install?
[04:37] <sugi> I have a p4 1.8 ghz, 1gb ddr, ati 9600 se on 8.04 Hardy.  Would I be able to play Morrowind in wine?
[04:37] <ejsilver26> crimsun: alraun1 was trying to help as well. No luck as of yet.
[04:37] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: should be the same driver, boot with that as live system, then gedit /etc/modules then find /remember /write down the correct driver
[04:37] <GraniteGargoyle> I think so
[04:37] <dwarme> Sugi, yes. quite well, too ive done it
[04:37] <Gnea> !language | lucent
[04:37] <segfault1> lucent, aircrack can be fun
[04:37] <ejsilver26> alraun1: I'll give that a shot as well.
[04:37] <crimsun> ejsilver26: the problem is that you've given me no context for that url
[04:37] <ejsilver26> alraun1: not tonight, though. :)
[04:37] <jrolson> today i went to synaptic package manager and installed kgreetingcard. I've tried to find it and can't find it in the apps at all. any help??
[04:37] <GraniteGargoyle> dwarme, it did a bunch of unpacking and such
[04:38] <sugi> dwarme: what's the specs of your machine?
[04:38] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: def tube? lol
[04:38] <ejsilver26> crimsun: You asked me to run the alsa-info.sh script and give you the url. :)  Sound issues.
[04:38] <dwarme> Granite, now go to system -> Preferences -> System Profiler
[04:38] <hou5ton> Gnea:  The docs say to go to the ndiswrapper directory ... and then the Debian directory ... and then to the Control files.   But there is NO Debian directory or Control files.
[04:38]  * lucent ignores the trolls
[04:38] <Gnea> jrolson: since it's a kde app, it's not going to show up in a gnome menu by default - you'll need to add it to the panel
[04:38] <crimsun> ejsilver26: but that's not the output I expected
[04:38] <GraniteGargoyle> yay there it is thanks
[04:38] <dwarme> Sugi I have an nvidia 7600, AMD 2.4 ghz and 1 GB ram
[04:38] <lucent> segfault1: yeah, I wish I could figure out aircrack to be honest... but that's offtopic :P
[04:38] <crimsun> ejsilver26: that's only the output from /etc/modules, which is not relevant
[04:38] <ejsilver26> alraun1: Least I won't get caught with my sound on when surfing "artistic" sites.
[04:38] <jrolson> how do i add it to the panel??
[04:39] <Flannel> jrolson: right click on it and "add to panel"
[04:39] <sp00n> Hello, I am trying to find out where the icon is for an application I installed using dpkg, so that I may use the icon when adding it to the launcer is Xfce.  Anyone know?
[04:39] <sugi> dwarme: it's a bit high for my specs.  thanks though
[04:39] <dwarme> No problem GraniteGargoyle , under Display it should give you some GFX card info,
[04:39] <ejsilver26> crimsun: Let me run it again and I'll give you a new url...
[04:39] <l3d> someone please say my nick so i know what libnotify i need to install
[04:39] <nickrud> l3d notified
[04:39] <Gnea> l3d: ok
[04:39] <l3d> ty
[04:39] <crashsystems> hello I3d!
[04:39] <dwarme> Sugi dont worry I played morrowind on a horrible laptop with an on board gfx card and 256 MB ram, youre all set
[04:39] <Blaqlight> sp00n: check /usr/share/{pixmaps,icons}
[04:39] <hou5ton> When you "tar" something, does it do something different than what would happen if you just double click on it?
[04:40] <ekow> robdig: hmm no luck...
[04:40] <Gnea> hou5ton: wait - did you download ndiswrapper from the site or did you install it with apt/synaptic?
[04:40] <jrolson> where do i find it to add it to the panel then??
[04:40]  * ComanDos lol
[04:40] <hou5ton> Gnea:  followed the docs .... downloaded it from the site
[04:40] <ejsilver26> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/1084004
[04:40] <sp00n> Blaqlight, I have searched there, but there are no files by the name of the application.  Is there a way to determine what icon an application is set to use?  When I run it the taskbar entry does have an icon.
[04:40] <jrolson> I can't find it since i was in package mgr
[04:40] <nickrud> hou5ton it unpacks it directly, when you double click you are viewing it, and may extract it. Both extractions are identical
[04:40] <crashsystems> hmm, I just stuck a blank CDR into my drive to burn an ISO, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize that there is a CD in there.
[04:40] <TehRikard|NARC> So, wireshark won't see the wireless card I'm connected on. Can anyone tell me why this might happen?
[04:40] <jrolson> i'm new to ubuntu if you can'
[04:40] <jrolson> tell
[04:40] <nickrud> jrolson   dpkg -L kgreetingcard | grep /bin
[04:40] <Blaqlight> sp00n: start with sudo updatedb then loacate appname
[04:40] <Gnea> oh boy...
[04:40] <dwarme> Ok now maybe someone can help me with my problem - I am fixing a Medion MD1768 computer for my friend and ubuntu installed smoothly. My only problem is the 3D acceleration, it says it is not enabled. It claims I have a "SGI" graphics card
[04:41] <robdig> ekow: hmm, wierd...let me look at something else
[04:41] <nickrud> jrolson that will give you the appname and path to put into the launcher you create
[04:41] <lucent> TehRikard|NARC: wireshark needs root rights?
[04:41] <crimsun> ejsilver26: your ~/.asoundrc is extraneous; erase it
[04:41] <Flannel> lucent: yes
[04:41] <Blaqlight> sp00n: obviusly spelling locate right.
[04:41] <sugi> dwarme: i am having issues with my box.  I can bearly handle zsnes.  So, yea.... I am having problems.
[04:41] <jrolson> enter that in a terminal??
[04:41] <TehRikard|NARC> Yeah. How do I launch something from the drop down menus as root?
[04:41] <nickrud> jrolson yes
[04:41] <crimsun> ejsilver26: also, is there a reason you're running -16- instead of -19- (kernel)/
[04:41] <l3d> ok say my nick for a test run
[04:41] <crashsystems> I3d
[04:41] <sp00n> Blaqlight, K.  Oh also running dpkg -S packageName did not yield any icon results
[04:41] <sugi> dwarme: were you on gnome? kde? xubuntu? or something else?
[04:41] <dwarme> I was on Ubuntu 8.04 with wine 1.0
[04:41] <Blaqlight> l3d:
[04:42] <lucent> TehRikard|NARC: don't know that you can easily,  if you bring up the run dialog or a terminal, you'd do sudo wireshark
[04:42] <l3d> ty
[04:42] <l3d>  it worked
[04:42] <TehRikard|NARC> Yeah, except when I try that: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:42] <sugi> dwarme: thanks
[04:42] <hou5ton> nickrud:  so ... is "tar" basically the same idea as unzipping a file ... and when I double click, or right-click and open, as long as I can see the individual directorires and files, I can consider it extracted??
[04:42] <dwarme> no prob sugi
[04:42] <ejsilver26> crimsun: Nope. No reason. I'll go erase that file...
[04:42] <jrolson> it says that it's not installed, but on the spm it says it is.....what to do??
[04:42] <TehRikard|NARC> This is on two machines. A t42 ibm laptop, and a homebrew desktop.
[04:42] <Flannel> TehRikard|NARC: warnings are warnings.  But you shouldn't use sudo for graphical programs, you should use gksu
[04:42] <lucent> hou5ton: tar + gzip = zip, functionally
[04:42] <Kohlrak> Are all the programs from the ubuntu-server installable from the dovecot files, or are there others as well?
[04:42] <nickrud> hou5ton not yet extracted, you'd have to click extract there
[04:42] <ekow> robdig: it has something to do with ubuntu recognizing where the top of my screen is because my panels can expand fully on the bottom, and when a panel is not on the very edge of the screen it is the same size as my top one
[04:42] <lucent> hou5ton: zip combines compression and directory structure
[04:43] <crimsun> ejsilver26: I highly recommend you upgrade to the latest kernel in the hardy repo, then (-19-)
[04:43] <Flannel> Kohlrak: What do you mean?
[04:43] <TehRikard|NARC> Yeah, it's warning me, but it's not bringing the program up.
[04:43] <TehRikard|NARC> So it's not JUST a warning :(
[04:43] <TehRikard|NARC> Even when I gksu wireshark
[04:43] <crashsystems> my cdrom drive is not spinning up! Grr...
[04:43] <dwarme> Ok now maybe someone can help me with my problem - I am fixing a Medion MD1768 computer for my friend and ubuntu installed smoothly. My only problem is the 3D acceleration, it says it is not enabled. It claims I have a "SGI" graphics card. I dont really know if this is the graphics card in it (I know it's on-board...) but I want to know if direct rendering / 3D acceleration is even possible.
[04:43] <lucent> TehRikard|NARC: my bad, gksu wireshark
[04:43] <nickrud> jrolson  dpkg -l kgreetingcard  (make sure you're using the right package name)
[04:43] <ejsilver26> crimsun: Ok, how do I do that... ? :)
[04:43] <TehRikard|NARC> Same warning, lucent.
[04:43] <wols_> dwarme: lspci |grep VGA
[04:43] <Blaqlight> sp00n: that will show everything with that string
[04:44] <sp00n> Blaqlight, locate absvolume shows no icon results
[04:44] <Kohlrak> Flannel: I'm trying to install gnome on a ubuntu-server, but realize that it's really difficult, and thought i would try to install ubuntu-desktop instead, then remove the apps that i don't need.
[04:44] <crimsun> ejsilver26: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:44] <jrolson> i copied what you typed
[04:44] <wols_> dwarme: SGI it is cause of MESA, software 3D
[04:44] <GraniteGargoyle> oooh dwarme me too
[04:44] <Gnea> hou5ton: ok, the docs are obviously outdated - try this instead: sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[04:44] <dwarme> wols_ I'm trying that now
[04:44] <ejsilver26> crimsun: I've run update after update and it hasn't done that.... ok.. I'll try those commands... sec..
[04:44] <robdig> ekow: what theme are you using? some of them control the panel size...
[04:44] <Blaqlight> sp00n: then it doesn't have/didn't come with one.
[04:44] <hou5ton> Gnea:  ok
[04:44] <alraun1> dwarme:terminal) sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[04:44] <nickrud> jrolson what we're looking for is  ii in the first two characters, says it's installed. anything else means it's not. like   ii    kgreetingcard
[04:44] <ekow> robdig: default human theme
[04:44] <Flannel> Kohlrak: To add ubuntu to your server, you just install ubuntu-desktop
[04:44] <jrolson> jrolson@emachine:~$ dpkg -l kgreetingcard
[04:44] <jrolson> No packages found matching kgreetingcard.
[04:44] <alraun1> dwarme:then hwinfo > card model,  maybe a simple   "lspci",  too
[04:44] <robdig> ekow: well, that one shouldn't limit you :)
[04:44] <dwarme> alraunl I'm installing that now
[04:45] <Blaqlight> sp00n: use a generic pixmap/icon from the above mentioned locations
[04:45] <hou5ton> Gnea:  already installed
[04:45] <sp00n> Blaqlight, when I run absvolume, it has a speaker icon in the taskbar.  I figure it may use an existing icon...
[04:45] <Kohlrak> Flannel, i tried a few thinsg like that, but it ended up conflicting and crashing with problems
[04:45] <TehRikard|NARC> Anyone? My wireless won't show up in Wireshark.
[04:45] <nickrud> jrolson then it didn't install.  do   sudo apt-get install  kgreetingcard
[04:45] <glitsj16> sp00n: synaptic has a tab labeled 'installed files' for each package, that should give you the location of installed icons too
[04:45] <GraniteGargoyle> dwarme if you find out that please help me out with it
[04:45] <sp00n> glitsj16, Thx
[04:45] <dwarme> Granite you got it =)
[04:45] <Gnea> hou5ton: ok, should be able to find it in the menu then
[04:45] <GraniteGargoyle> thank you, main reason I'm in here
[04:45] <ejsilver26> crimsun: 1 upgrade to be done....
[04:45] <Flannel> Kohlrak: That doesn't really make sense.  Anyway, if you use "tasksel" you can install the mail server just like the server CD does at install.
[04:45] <Gnea> hou5ton: and if not, then: sudo ndisgtk
[04:45] <MTeck> Anybody know anything about ZNC? I'm having this problem -> http://pastebin.com/d2e9e54fa
[04:45] <wols_> dwarme: what did lspci say?
[04:45] <Flannel> Kohlrak: But to answer your original question, all the stuff is in the packages.
[04:46] <dwarme> wols_ 1 second its doing a lot o_o
[04:46] <sp00n> Blaqlight, Synaptic lists no icons either.  Where does the icon used for the taskbar entry come from then?
[04:46] <wols_> dwarme: no it's not. it will just output around 10-15 lines of text
[04:46] <ekow> robdig: seems to be something with my video card or resolution or something, however i have my drivers installed and my right resolution set...
[04:46] <nickrud> jrolson is that working?
[04:46] <dwarme> wols_ I got a Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[04:46] <Kohlrak> Flannel: probably is, but for some reason the stuff doesn't want to install and/or work properly (don't know why). What about the LAMP apps, is there a single package for that too?
[04:46] <hou5ton> Gnea:  right ... I've had that all along ... but anytime I attempt to install a new driver, and I've tried several ... it always tells me it's an invalid driver.
[04:46] <Blaqlight> sp00n: its probably a generic one.
[04:46] <dwarme> thats what lspci says
[04:47] <wols_> dwarme: poor you. driver is "SIS". you'd be very lucky to get hardware 3D. forget compiz
[04:47] <l3d>  now if only i could I could get the kde apps i installed to use the theme I have  I would be happy
[04:47] <jrolson> check im nickrud
[04:47] <Flannel> Kohlrak: you can use tasksel for that (in fact, tasksel is basically what the server CD uses).
[04:47] <dwarme> I dont want compiz, but can I get SIS driver to at least run OpenGL games decently?
[04:47] <sp00n> Blaqlight, you mean the window mgr picked it or something?  There isn't something that specifies what icon is used there?
[04:47] <wols_> dwarme: no
[04:47] <nickrud> jrolson are you running ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[04:47] <Kohlrak> oooooh, i just realized what tasksel is... Thank you for your help (will remember this for the future)
[04:47] <dwarme> wols_ should I throw an old Nvidia 6700FX into it and do that then?
[04:47] <wols_> dwarme: a LOT better
[04:47] <dwarme> ok good
[04:48] <ejsilver26> crimsun: Done.. next? :)
[04:48] <dwarme> GraniteGargoyle sorry man looks like were out of luck unless we install 3rd party graphics cards
[04:48] <GraniteGargoyle> how to do that check Dwarme? please...
[04:48] <ejsilver26> crimsun: Now I have a nice, upgraded... uhm.... Gimp... :)
[04:48] <robdig> ekow: if you right click on the panel, is the expand option checked?
[04:48] <Blaqlight> sp00n: if you can't find the icon when searching yet it has one, its using a generic backup icon for continuity.
[04:48] <crimsun> ejsilver26: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic
[04:48] <dwarme> Granite type lspci and read the bottom
[04:48] <ekow> robdig: yeah ofc
[04:48] <robdig> ekow: that is in the properties menu, after right click, sorry
[04:48] <dwarme> granite type it into a terminal
[04:48] <wols_> GraniteGargoyle: lspci |grep VGA
[04:48] <TehRikard|NARC> Can anyone help me? I cannot get any interfaces to show up in wireshark.
[04:48] <dwarme> yeah that.
[04:49] <Gnea> hou5ton: url for the .inf file that you're trying to use?
[04:49] <sp00n> Blaqlight, is there a way to determine which generic backup icon it's using?  I would like to use the same one adding it to the quicklauncher to avoid confusion
[04:49] <dwarme> TehRikard in a terminal run gksu wireshark
[04:49] <l3d>  run wireshark as root
[04:49] <xtknight> if anyone is having trouble adjusting volume in ubuntu by keyboard shortcuts, or the mixer applet, or gnome-volume-control (jumpy/muting/slow/channel adjustment issues), i URGE you to take a look at this bug and please reply so it can be fixed.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/252237
[04:49] <dwarme> TehRikard then it should show up
[04:49] <TehRikard|NARC> Gtk-WARNING
[04:49] <TehRikard|NARC> cannot open display.
[04:49] <dwarme> o_o
[04:49] <GraniteGargoyle>  Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS200/RS200M AGP Bridge [IGP 340M] (rev 02)
[04:49] <wols_> TehRikard|NARC: in a X
[04:49] <GraniteGargoyle> that?
[04:49] <ejsilver26> crimsun: unable to locate
[04:49] <wols_> TehRikard|NARC: in X
[04:49] <TehRikard|NARC> I'm in a term.
[04:50] <wols_> GraniteGargoyle: ati is the driver
[04:50] <crimsun> ejsilver26: you are running hardy, yes?
[04:50] <Blaqlight> sp00n: have a look in those folders find it and you'll have you answer.
[04:50] <TehRikard|NARC> gksu wireshark   yields Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:50] <wols_> TehRikard|NARC: ´not sudo. gksudo
[04:50] <ejsilver26> crimsun: 8.04, yes.
[04:50] <GraniteGargoyle> how do I know if 3d is on and such and can I change it
[04:50] <TehRikard|NARC> Yes, gksudo.
[04:50] <wols_> TehRikard|NARC: env |grep -i DISPLAY
[04:50] <TehRikard|NARC> I'm using it.
[04:50] <crimsun> ejsilver26: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, please?
[04:50] <TehRikard|NARC> Nothing came up.
[04:50] <ruffleS> hi everybody. is there any easy way to make a .iso file with my hardy heron settings? like gnome settings, installed packages, etc
[04:50] <wols_> TehRikard|NARC: you are not in X then
[04:51] <TehRikard|NARC> How.. how am I not in X?
[04:51] <Blaqlight> sp00n: that would be /usr/share/{pixmaps,icons}
[04:51] <alraun1> wols_: couldn't the medion lap use envy then ?
[04:51] <GraniteGargoyle> lol I can do this stuff in Won but I feel stupid right about now. Like learning dos again
[04:51] <TehRikard|NARC> I have a desktop behind me
[04:51] <sp00n> Blaqlight, k. there are 90 files containing "volume" in /usr/share/icons ...guess I will get to searching.
[04:51] <TehRikard|NARC> That means I'm in x, right?
[04:51] <sp00n> Blaqlight, filenames that is
[04:51] <wols_> alraun1: we do not support envy in any way. and envy can't do 3D when there are no good drivers
[04:51] <Kohlrak> TehRikard: Yes, and gnome
[04:51] <Yach1> i was wondering if someone could help me. i'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on a PPC PowerBook, and i'm trying to use Synaptic Package Manager to find a flash plugin, but whenever i search things like "swfdec" or "gnash", i get no results. could it be my repositories?
[04:51] <nickrud> !envyng
[04:52] <TehRikard|NARC> Ok, well, gksu still gives me a GTK warning, and a middle finger.
[04:52] <ekow> robdig: i have a widescreen laptop, i think ubuntu seems to think i don't...
[04:52] <Kohlrak> what's it warning you about?
[04:52] <ejsilver26> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/1084015
[04:52] <wols_> TehRikard|NARC: export DISPLAY=localhost:0
[04:52] <TehRikard|NARC> Yields nothing.
[04:52] <wols_> TehRikard|NARC: it's not supposed to. now run wireshark again
[04:53] <glitsj16> l3d: you want kde apps to have the look of a gnome theme ?
[04:53] <hou5ton> Gnea:  http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&ProdID=35&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[04:53] <l3d> yes
[04:53] <Yach1> i was wondering if someone could help me. i'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on a PPC PowerBook, and i'm trying to use Synaptic Package Manager to find a flash plugin, but whenever i search things like "swfdec" or "gnash", i get no results. could it be my repositories?
[04:53] <TehRikard|NARC> cannot open display: localhost:0
[04:53] <TehRikard|NARC> BRB. I have an idea.
[04:53] <`brooks> ubuntu has finished updating and requires a reboot? i thought reboots were atypical of linux?
[04:53] <wols_> `brooks: kernel upgrades need a reboot
[04:53] <glitsj16> l3d: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/02/11/theme-qt3-applications-in-gnome/ .. uses qt3 in the examples, but if you need qt4, make the needed name changes and it will work the same
[04:53] <robdig> ekow: maybe. i'm sorry, but i don't know anything else to suggest
[04:54] <`brooks> oh. i see.
[04:54] <ruffleS> `brooks, kernel updates requires a boot
[04:54] <Blaqlight> `brooks: kernel updates require reboot... so you boot into the new kernel :D
[04:54] <ekow> robdig: np appreciate the help
[04:54] <lonejack> hi, does somebody know about an UBUNTU compatibility list regarding motherboard ? Thx
[04:54] <`brooks> ;]
[04:54] <wols_> ekow: what driver?
[04:54] <hou5ton> Gnea:  they also have a linux driver on that page ... but I don't know what to do with it
[04:54] <Gnea> hou5ton: did you get the XP/2000 driver?
[04:55] <l3d> thank you
[04:55] <Kohlrak> lonejack, if it uses intel or amd, you're probably fine
[04:55] <hou5ton> Gnea:  yes ... it said invalid ... so I tried the 98 one too ... same message
[04:55] <BloodFollows> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[04:55] <ekow> wols_: Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family
[04:55] <Gnea> ouch, that was fast
[04:55] <glitsj16> l3d: no problem, just did it the other day for k3b, it stuck
[04:55] <wols_> ekow: that's no driver
[04:55] <GraniteGargoyle> any way for me to check if 3d accel is enabled on my laptop?
[04:55] <Gnea> hou5ton: ok, one min
[04:56] <crimsun> ejsilver26: you're missing a line for hardy-updates ...
[04:56] <lonejack> Kohlrak: chipset compatibility no problem amd-64 or core duo... doesn't care?
[04:56] <Yach1> i was wondering if someone could help me. i'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on a PPC PowerBook, and i'm trying to use Synaptic Package Manager to find a flash plugin, but whenever i search things like "swfdec" or "gnash", i get no results. could it be my repositories? i
[04:56] <l3d>  so I would want to do it for qt4 or 3
[04:56] <ejsilver26> crimsun: ok... what should I put into the file?
[04:56] <Kohlrak> BloodFollows: What?
[04:56] <ekow> wols_: oh that's my video card chipset sorry
[04:56] <wols_> lonejack: nope it doesn't
[04:56] <alraun1> crimsun::)
[04:56] <Bad_Hacker> Hello.
[04:56] <crimsun> ejsilver26: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main universe restricted multiverse
[04:56] <wols_> !info gnash
[04:56] <alraun1> crimsun: and sec updates ond so on commented
[04:56] <wols_> Yach1: universe
[04:56] <glitsj16> l3d: that depends on the application, qt3 for older ones
[04:56] <Gnea> hou5ton: ok, if you download the linux file, you should be able to extract the contents (the directory)
[04:57] <shishio> hi guys does ubuntu has a System Restore like program?
[04:57] <Gnea> hou5ton: then read the readme file - it tells you how to install it
[04:57] <dsmith_> I have someone thats asking me for help, he is installing or trying to install ubuntu 8.04 and says he is getting this "it gets up to the part where it determines what packages to remove, and dies"
[04:57] <Kohlrak> lonejack: I'm guess it won't have a problem, i have an AMD Athlon (dual core) on my laptop here ,and my only problem is sometimes my video card and my audio card, which are seperate issues
[04:57] <hou5ton> Gnea:  It seemed pretty complex ... I'll look at it again
[04:57] <lonejack> wols_: Kohlrak: thx
[04:57] <l3d> ok as of now ktorrent and konsole
[04:57] <Gnea> shishio: not really - i usually use something like clonezilla for that
[04:57] <Yach1> wols_: i have that repository enabled
[04:57] <Gnea> hou5ton: it's much easier than it looks :)
[04:58] <os2mac> interesting... my sound only works through wine.
[04:58] <w0jrl> hello all
[04:58] <ejsilver26> crimsun: ok, I added that line...
[04:58] <shishio> @Gnea, clonezilla?
[04:58] <crimsun> ejsilver26: after you add the line, make sure you run:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:58] <Gnea> shishio: clonezilla.
[04:58] <ejsilver26> crimsun: ok... sec..
[04:58] <Blaqlight> dsmith_: if your installing, why is it removing?
[04:59] <shishio> @Gnea, do i have to install it or does ubuntu already have it
[04:59] <dsmith_> Blaqlight: thats what I asked and his response was "I said it gets to the part where it decides if it should, and dies"
[04:59] <hou5ton> Gnea:  when I tar the file, what letters should I use?
[04:59] <Yach1> wols_: i have that repository enabled, and yet i get nothing when i search swfdec
[04:59] <dsmith_> Blaqlight: I dont ever remember Ubuntu installer saying that
[05:00] <Bad_Hacker> I have am running Ubuntu on a PC Chips M810 LMR-H with about 655 of ram, and running a ati radeon 128mb 9600 card. I notice one I installed the graphic card it appears that the screen goes " blank or black" is this some sort of bug with ati radeon cards and xforce software, if so, how can i fix this issue? Please help. Thanks
[05:00] <dsmith_> for clean up yes
[05:00] <ejsilver26> crimsun: Well.. that certainly changed things a bit... 275 upgrades....
[05:00] <ejsilver26> alraun1: I hope you're taking notes... ;)  (JK)
[05:00] <Gnea> shishio: it's actually a livecd based on debian - the .iso is very small, it's very extensive, although i do not recommend it for fat32 migrations - www.clonezilla.org
[05:00] <glitsj16> l3d: i don't know exactly, i installed both sets (qt3-qtconfig and qt4-qtconfig) and experimented a bit, changes are applied immediately so should be easily figured out
[05:01] <ejsilver26> Gnea: clonezilla rocks.. used it in one our classrooms/labs...
[05:01] <Blaqlight> yeah for clean-up, perhaps he's just impatient? maybe its already done?
[05:01] <Gnea> ejsilver26: i use it every week, it's a lifesaver
[05:02] <ejsilver26> Gnea: I don't have need for it right now, but when you are re-imaging 20-30 computers at a time for each class to solve different problems or learn something new on XP/Vista... it helps a lot.
[05:02] <hou5ton> When I tar the file, what letters should I use?
[05:02] <l3d> nice ok thanks
[05:02] <ejsilver26> Gnea: Faster than Norton Ghost, that is for sure.
[05:02] <dsmith_> Blaqlight: I dont know really, this person supposedly uses gentoo
[05:02] <dsmith_> lol
[05:02] <Blaqlight> dsmith_: or maybe claiming gentoo make em look cool?
[05:02] <glitsj16> l3d: you're welcome
[05:03] <dsmith_> could be
[05:03] <Bad_Hacker> I am running Ubuntu on a PC Chips M810 LMR-H with about 655 of ram, and running a ati radeon 128mb 9600 card. I notice that once I installed the graphic card it appears that the screen goes " blank or black" is this some sort of bug with ati radeon cards and xforce software, if so, how can i fix this issue? Please help. Thanks!!!
[05:03] <LanUser> Hello - How can I get the "You have new email" notifications that I've had in previous linux distros?
[05:04] <ejsilver26> crimsun: THis is going to take a while. I'll come back tomorrow night. I'll let you know what happens... You too alraun1...
[05:04] <ejsilver26> crimsun and alraun1: Thanks for all your help... Have a great night.
[05:04] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: live-cd
[05:05] <ejsilver26> alraun1: If this doesn't work, that is what I'll probably end up doing. Thanks for the tip. :)
[05:05] <alraun1> ﻿ ejsilver26: def tube? lol  n8
[05:05] <dsmith_> Blaqlight: now he wants to know how set a root password, lol... Geez
[05:05] <crimsun> ejsilver26: ok.
[05:06] <Blaqlight> dsmith_: so then its not freezzing anymore?
[05:06] <The_Gopher> Hi, trying to boot into terminal without X (so I can install new nvidia drivers), I've found a lot of old information on how to do it but it involves editing inittab which no longer exists, can anybody help (8.0.4)
[05:06] <dsmith_> he says its working
[05:06] <dsmith_> thx for the response
[05:06] <Blaqlight> The_Gopher: CTRL ALT F1
[05:06] <harej> Is there a way to get around having to put in an install CD for when I do "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ?
[05:06] <w0jrl> how's everyone doing?
[05:06] <The_Gopher> it's that easy, gdi :(
[05:06] <The_Gopher> thanks
[05:07] <Bad_Hacker> I am running Ubuntu on a PC Chips M810 LMR-H with about 655 of ram, and running a ati radeon 128mb 9600 card. I notice that once I installed the graphic card it appears that the screen goes " blank or black" is this some sort of bug with ati radeon cards and xforce software, if so, how can i fix this issue? Please help. Thanks!!!
[05:07] <alraun1> ﻿The_Gopher: you can choose session type at login
[05:07] <aga^_^> how to remove display manager on ubuntu 7.10
[05:07] <Blaqlight> The_Gopher: yes unfortunately it is. also there is CTRL Alt 2,3,4,5,6,and 7 for desktop again.
[05:08] <aga^_^> i make ubuntu desktop 7.10 for router
[05:08] <w0jrl> i have a question about sound cards
[05:08] <LanUser> The_Gopher: you can also turn off gdm with "/etc/init.d/./gdm stop"
[05:08] <Kernel> hello all. my computer just froze up and became unresponsive and left me the only option of force rebooting it....but in my /var/log/messages i see all this right before the restart : http://pastebin.com/m482299a1 . any ideas on what might cause this?
[05:09] <aga^_^> how to remove it
[05:09] <LanUser> aga^_^: you mean the login manager?
[05:09] <aga^_^> no
[05:09] <yehudah`> e ae galera
[05:09] <aga^_^> i want to make ubuntu-desktop to
[05:09] <w0jrl> does anyone know how to get gnome-orca to use  an external sound card?
[05:09] <aga^_^> i want to change ubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-server
[05:10] <Blaqlight> w0jrl: sudo apt-get install packagename
[05:10] <harej> Is there a way to get around having to put in an install CD for when I do "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ?
[05:10] <Flannel> harej: remove your CD from your sources
[05:10] <harej> Flannel, and how may I do that?
[05:10] <alraun1> harej: internet connection and a complete source.list
[05:11] <alraun1> harej: internet connection and a complete sources.list
[05:11] <harej> ok
[05:11] <Flannel> harej: Go to your software sources, and uncheck the CD one.  Or manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out (#) the CD line (near the top)
[05:11] <w0jrl> i have orca installed but i want it to use my USB headset
[05:11] <aga^_^> i want to change ubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-server
[05:12] <aga^_^> anyone can help me
[05:12] <Bad_Hacker> I am running Ubuntu on a PC Chips M810 LMR-H with about 655 of ram, and running a ati radeon 128mb 9600 card. I notice that once I installed the graphic card it appears that the screen goes " blank or black" is this some sort of bug with ati radeon cards and xforce software, if so, how can i fix this issue? Please help. Thanks!!!
[05:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> how does one even get to 655mb ram?
[05:13] <Benito_> whats the best ftp client for ubuntu
[05:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's not even a reasonable number
[05:13] <hou5ton> Gnea:  ok ... I tried doing the REadme .... didn't turn out well ....
[05:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> !best | Benito_
[05:13] <alraun1> ﻿!envyng|Bad_Hacker
[05:14] <sugi> if i do apt-get install wine, would it install the version from the repos or does it install the latest version from the website
[05:14] <Benito_> ok well is there a included ftp/
[05:14] <w0jrl> i use nautilus for ftp
[05:14] <sugi> ??
[05:14] <harej> Daisuke_Laptop, I'd like to know myself
[05:14] <alraun1> sugi: repos
[05:15] <Bad_Hacker> typo : 630mb or ram
[05:15] <Flannel> Benito_: Places > Connect to Server, will connect you to ftp
[05:15] <will00> is there a way to automatically schedule a restart under hardy?
[05:15] <Bad_Hacker> I am running Ubuntu on a PC Chips M810 LMR-H with about 630 of ram, and running a ati radeon 128mb 9600 card. I notice that once I installed the graphic card it appears that the screen goes " blank or black" is this some sort of bug with ati radeon cards and xforce software, if so, how can i fix this issue? Please help. Thanks!!!
[05:15] <harej> ok, how do you get 630 MB of RAM?
[05:16] <alraun1> n8
[05:16] <sugi> alraun1:  repos
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> will00: details?
[05:16] <Flannel> sugi: the wine in the repos is fairly up to date
[05:17] <Bad_Hacker> 512mb + 128mb = 630
[05:17] <Flannel> Bad_Hacker: 640
[05:17] <harej> Oh!
[05:17] <harej> That makes sense
[05:17] <will00> tonyyarusso, im leaving a small server behind when i go off to college, i would like the system to automatically restart every sunday at 2am, is there a way  can set that up?
[05:17] <Bad_Hacker> did i mention i sux at math!!
[05:17] <sugi> flannel, but what about other problems?  does it install the latest version from their website or whatever version the repos are set to?
[05:17] <Bad_Hacker> lol
[05:17] <Flannel> will00: cron can do that, yeah, but why do you need it to reboot every week?
[05:17] <soul_786> How can i partition a USB drive with both a FAT32 partion and a ext2 partition easily?
[05:17] <SeyRa_9aLz> hi
[05:17] <Flannel> sugi: It installs from the repos.
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> will00: sure, although it seems unnecessary.  cron can certainly do it.
[05:18] <guren> soul_768: gparted
[05:18] <will00> ok thanks
[05:18] <Bad_Hacker> Anyhow, can my issue be fixed?
[05:18] <soul_786> guren: will gparted do both a fat32 partition and a ext2? Or just the ext2 because its linux?
[05:18] <sugi> Flannel: so the version from the repos, may not always be the latest version?
[05:18] <[3][Finity]> Hey all I'm wondering about installing ubuntu into my windows install so I can run linux apps without emulation from within windows..anybody know if I can use the GNOME WM instead of windows explorer and what not ?
[05:18] <SeyRa_9aLz> malang
[05:19] <chronographer> Hi folks, I have a new mythbuntu install and it locks up after playing a movie for a few minutes... I mean HARD lock up... need to reset it from the button on the front of the CPU locked up... Anybody want to help me find the problem?
[05:19] <chronographer> its a via nehemiah mobo
[05:19] <guren> soul_768: gparted can format a partition to vfat and ext2
[05:19] <[3][Finity]> [==] #5405 [==] 057 - I-15 - Lost In Love [Torrent-Tatty] (™ Zone 4 - Interscope) [==] 3:31 [==] 224Kbps [==]
[05:19] <glitsj16> hou5ton: not trying to interfere with Gnea's instructions, but today someone posted about a new project called 'auto-NDISwrapper' --> http://easylinuxwifi.org/ .. basically looks like a script you run and answer some questions to install windows wifi drivers, might be of use if all else fails
[05:20] <moDumass> hey all, i rebooted but now that its rebooted it says "BusyBox v1.1.3 (debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built0in commans
[05:20] <Flannel> sugi: Well, normally I'd say yes, defintaely.  But strange things have been being updated in Hardy.  Bugfixes and stuff have always been updated.  And if you're really worried about it, you can always use the winehq repos, which stay up to date
[05:20] <moDumass> commands
[05:20] <hou5ton> glitsj16:  thanks
[05:20] <Flannel> [3][Finity]: please turn that off
[05:20] <soul_786> guren: and making those partition changes on gparted will work for the usb flash drive? I've only used gparted on partitioning an HD
[05:20] <moDumass> (initramfs) _
[05:20] <moDumass> any idea why this has happened
[05:20] <moDumass> for no reason
[05:20] <sugi> Flannel: thanks you answered my question.
[05:20] <[3][Finity]> my bad
[05:20] <|gandhii|> I've finally got around to upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04..  and the install has apparently stalled while "Generating locales..."     How screwed am I?  what is my best recourse?
[05:20] <xtknight> moDumass, are you using Hardy or Intrepid
[05:21] <moDumass> xtknight hardy
[05:21] <crimsun> |gandhii|: kill it, and rerun the upgrade while in the hardy kernel.
[05:21] <xtknight> hmm
[05:21] <guren> soul_768: i haven't tried usb.. but it works for my solid state flash drive..
[05:21] <Cocoabean> hello
[05:21] <xtknight> moDumass, and what motherboard/chipset do you have ?
[05:21] <soul_786> guren: Alright I'll give it a try and finger's crossed it'll work! =) thanks
[05:21] <moDumass> xtknight its a toshiba laptop
[05:21] <moDumass> satalite pro
[05:22] <guren> soul_768: it's not a risk at all. it's simply trial and error.
[05:22] <xtknight> moDumass, have any linux distributions been run successfully on it or is this your first try.  or have others failed?
[05:22] <|gandhii|> while in the "hardy kernel"?    whats that mean?
[05:22] <vaylence> I'm struggling here folks, I cant get ubuntu installed
[05:22] <Cocoabean> So I am trying to install ubuntu desktop but I have no black cds. My computer is running ubuntu server and one HDD is the system disk while the other one has an ubuntu desktop image. is there a way i can boot the live cd image from a working linux installation
[05:22] <Cocoabean> blank* cds
[05:22] <EmmcoRe> Necesito configurar mi placa de sonido ya que he instalado recientemente Ubuntu, alguien puede ayudarme ??
[05:22] <EmmcoRe> Necesito configurar mi placa de sonido ya que he instalado recientemente Ubuntu, alguien puede ayudarme ??
[05:22] <xtknight> Cocoabean, you can burn to blank dvds if you have those as well
[05:22] <Cocoabean> my computer has no DVD drive
[05:23] <unavailable> screenlets problem -->  i have eight running, 3 of which dont want to autostart at login
[05:23] <prince_jammys> !es > EmmcoRe
[05:23] <xtknight> !install | Cocoabean various installation options are here
[05:23] <moDumass> xtknight i have been happily and sucessfully running hardy until i rebooted
[05:23] <Blaqlight> !es | EmmcoRe
[05:23] <kanak> Hi, I'm having troubles getting Ubuntu to recognize my external drive. I'm using a Vantec Nexstar 3 2.5" SATA enclosure with my Western Digital Scorpio 120 GB hard drive. I know my hard drive is working because I just checked it in my laptop, and I know the external is working because I can hear the drive spin when i connect it.  The hard drive was formatted to ext3. I can't seem to access the drive. Help please.
[05:23] <harpreet> ya
[05:23] <Cocoabean> thanks
[05:23] <[3][Finity]> Hey all I'm wondering about installing ubuntu into my windows install so I can run linux apps without emulation from within windows..anybody know if I can use the GNOME WM instead of windows explorer and what not ?
[05:23] <xtknight> moDumass, if you have other kernels listed in the boot menu can you see if these older ones work?
[05:23] <EmmcoRe> OK english
[05:23] <moDumass> okapi14, gimme a sec
[05:23] <Cocoabean> but if someone knows how to boot an image from inside a working linux install, i would like to know
[05:23] <unavailable> screenlets problem -->  i have eight running, 3 of which dont want to autostart at login, these three also do not show up in the current session when they are running
[05:23] <vaylence> I cant get passed the prepare partitions screen, I dont even want to partition
[05:24] <Flannel> [3][Finity]: No, wubi is a dualboot sort of thing.  It only frees you from having to partition
[05:24] <EmmcoRe> I need help with sound card config under ubuntu
[05:24] <unavailable> vaylence you have to set the partitions you want to use for "\" and swap
[05:24] <EmmcoRe> somebody ?
[05:24] <unavailable> screenlets problem -->  i have eight running, 3 of which dont want to autostart at login, these three also do not show up in the current session when they are running
[05:24] <ybit> how do you compile the kernel in ubuntu?
[05:24] <[3][Finity]> ty Flannel
[05:24] <os2mac> having difficulty playing music on my ubuntu box. I can hear audio through Wine and my browser but am unable to play any music file or system sound.
[05:24] <Flannel> !kernel | ybit
[05:24] <ybit> !kernel
[05:24] <Flannel> !sound | EmmcoRe
[05:24] <EmmcoRe> I havent sound after ubuntuś installation
[05:24] <unavailable> ybit why do you want to compile the kernel?
[05:24] <ybit> well, that was nice
[05:24] <hou5ton> glitsj16:  got this message:  Sorry, card not yet supported by Auto-NDISwrapper
[05:25] <EmmcoRe> Ok ubottu thanks
[05:25] <ybit> unavailable: its needed for openvas server and its plugins
[05:25] <chronographer> hi is this bad: (in dmesg) [  128.851690] Marking TSC unstable due to: cpufreq changes.
[05:25] <glitsj16> hou5ton: tough luck indeed
[05:25] <vaylence> unavailable: I had the installer once give me the option to format the hard drive, every other time it goes straight to the partitioner, but I have no options on that screen, its a dead end.
[05:25] <moDumass> xtknight nope, same error with older releases
[05:26] <Kohlrak> what's the terminal command for unmounting something?
[05:26] <chronographer> umount
[05:26] <xtknight> Kohlrak, sudo umount /mount/point
[05:26] <xtknight> or sudo umount /block/device
[05:26] <Kohlrak> i thought it was uNmount XD thanks
[05:26] <unavailable> vaylence and you picked manual?  or guided?
[05:26] <unavailable> ybit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[05:26] <xtknight> moDumass, i am not sure what to say but if you recently had disk corruption of some kind, that could be it.  it doesn't work if you goto recovery mode?  do you use any kind of RAID?
[05:26] <ybit> already there :)
[05:26] <unavailable> aah
[05:27] <unavailable> well then
[05:27] <ybit> heh
[05:27] <moDumass> xtknight, no raid, nothing special here
[05:27] <ybit> thanks though :)
[05:27] <unavailable> yep
[05:27] <vaylence> unavaliable: guided, I just wanted to wipe it clean and install ubuntu, but the comp locked, the install failed, and I've never gotten that screen back with the installer off the live cd
[05:27] <unavailable> screenlets problem -->  i have eight running, 3 of which dont want to autostart at login, these three also do not show up in the current session when they are running
[05:27] <xtknight> moDumass, i assume if you tried a livecd  right now it would boot just fine?
[05:27] <moDumass> and there really shouldnt be any disk corruption, is there a scandisk i could run from initramfs
[05:27] <moDumass> hmm, no i installed from a windows installer
[05:27] <xtknight> moDumass, hmm the program is called fsck but i am not sure that you can execute it from there
[05:28] <chronographer> If my system freezes, how can I find out what is causing it and fix it?
[05:28] <unavailable> screenlets problem -->  i have eight running, 3 of which dont want to autostart at login, these three also do not show up in the current session when they are running    >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870015
[05:28] <xtknight> chronographer, how badly is it freezing?  do your numlock keys respond during the freeze?
[05:28] <chronographer> actually i havenb't checked that
[05:28] <xtknight> chronographer, and under what circumstances does it freeze?
[05:29] <chronographer> I can't ctrl alt backspace-F1 or anything
[05:29] <chronographer> playing a movie
[05:29]  * ComanDos foka ;)
[05:29] <xtknight> moDumass, the only solution i can see is to reinstall, i am not sure what the cause is
[05:29] <hou5ton> glitsj16:   supposedly rtl8185 support is in mainline as of 2.6.25 .... is there a way to make my Hardy Heron upgrade to that kernel?
[05:29] <chronographer> really!
[05:29] <chronographer> damn
[05:29] <xtknight> chronographer, what video card do you have?
[05:29] <unavailable> screenlets problem -->  i have eight running, 3 of which dont want to autostart at login, these three also do not show up in the current session when they are running    >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870015
[05:29] <chronographer> its a via onboard
[05:29] <chronographer> 12000 nehemiah
[05:30] <xtknight> hou5ton, yes use this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158   keep in mind you might also need to enable CONFIG_SND and support for your sound card in a new kernel, i am not sure if that is mentioned
[05:30] <chronographer> is there a log somewhere that I can find out what happens in? I checkd dmesg, all seems ok (what I can understand anyhow)
[05:30] <xtknight> chronographer, there are various logs in /var/log like messages, klog, etc
[05:30] <chronographer> ok
[05:30] <unavailable> nickrud: you there man?
[05:30] <xtknight> the current dmesg would not show an error of a previous crash
[05:30] <nickrud> !training
[05:30] <xtknight> "dmesg" in /var/log might
[05:31] <vaylence> any ideas why I cant format during my install? I keep getting dead ended
[05:31] <nickrud> unavailable you rang ?
[05:31] <unavailable> nickrud: you know about screenlets?  i have a problem with mainmenu volumecontrol and trash autostarting
[05:31] <unavailable> they wont
[05:31] <guido_> hey guys, can anyone tell me if my sources.list has anything wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/30785/
[05:31] <chronographer> ok
[05:32] <nickrud> unavailable no, I don't like a lot of stuff on my desktop. I have my home, doc and projects folders there and nothing else
[05:32] <unavailable> aah
[05:32] <ankit_> guido_: looks fine
[05:32] <xtknight> guido_, i think it's fine, you can try "sudo apt-get update" and see if it updates the repositories list properly
[05:33] <unavailable> nickrud well what puzzles me is the four that autostart show up in sessions, but even when all are running, the other three wont show up at all in sessions
[05:33] <chronographer> i get lots of these: Jul 25 21:38:55 mythbox kernel: [ 1637.947157] phy0: tx overflow.
[05:33] <guido_> I ask because I get a * The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used! message
[05:33] <xtknight> chronographer, huh.  what kind of network adapter do you have?
[05:33] <xtknight> that means that a transfer buffer of a PHY(network interface) is overflowing
[05:33] <chronographer> its a pcmcia wireless, don't know exactly it worked ootb so I don't worry about it
[05:33] <nickrud> unavailable they probably run under the screenlets main process. But that's really only a guess
[05:33] <ankit_> I have a problem with Firefox on Ubuntu... certain websites (such as Facebook) are really slow to scroll and use up a lot of processing power. it's only certain sites though, most are fine.
[05:34] <RevFnord> So I am looking at these install instructions on this website and they say to deb http:// something, but terminal says unknown command deb
[05:34] <xtknight> ankit_, what video card do you have and what video driver are you using now in xorg.conf(if any)
[05:34] <chronographer> ok so maybe new wireless network drivers are in order?  thats not my lock up problem then
[05:34] <unavailable> ankit_ do these sites in question use flash ??
[05:34] <xtknight> RevFnord, you probably add it to /etc/apt/sources.list and then do sudo apt-get update in terminal
[05:34] <cxo> How do you change the boot up logo?
[05:34] <amenado> RevFnord-> thats aded to the sources.list not a command you type in
[05:34] <blUbuntu> how good is transmission is there a better torrent client?
[05:34] <chronographer> Jul 25 21:46:00 mythbox kernel: [   39.762776] via-rhine: Broken BIOS detected, avoid_D3 enabled.  <-- is this bad?
[05:34] <xtknight> chronographer, i am not sure, it could be the cause but not if videos trigger it probably.  are you runnig mythtv that uses video AND network at same time?  could that do it?
[05:34] <unavailable> ankit_ and after visiting a site like youtube, does firefox crash if you close the tab?
[05:35] <ankit_> unavailable: they have flash, but other sites with extensive flash, including youtube work fine (although they do crash very occasionally, nothing too bad), so I don't think it's a flash related problem
[05:35] <chronographer> hmm.... it happend using vlc, and also mythtv... mythtv has been playing video for 15 mins this time, no lock up
[05:35] <cxo> How do you turn off automatic updates?
[05:35] <xtknight> !usplash | cxo
[05:36] <unavailable> !screenlets > unavailable
[05:36] <guido_> what does a "The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!" message means?
[05:36] <Flannel> cxo: There are no automatic updates
[05:36] <xtknight> cxo, system->admin->software sources
[05:36] <pobbel> G'day all
[05:36] <unavailable> screenlets problem -->  i have eight running, 3 of which dont want to autostart at login, these three also do not show up in the current session when they are running    >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870015
[05:36] <ankit_> unavailable: and I'm using the "nvidia" driver with my Nvidia Go 7950 GTX
[05:37] <unavailable> ankit_ the propritary??
[05:37] <WSouBar> hi guys
[05:37] <amenado> guido_-> what are you trying to do?
[05:37] <chronographer> looks like this is the last line before freezing in messages: mythbox kernel: [  110.596964] agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode
[05:37] <xtknight> ankit_, is dragging a window on the desktop also slow and jerky?
[05:37] <ankit_> unavailable: yes, and compiz is running as well
[05:37] <blUbuntu> how good is transmission is there a better torrent client? I downloaded some audiobooks (free and legal of course) but they were quite messed up or was that just a bad hash
[05:37] <guido_> amenado: install the nvidia drivers
[05:37] <xtknight> chronographer, what do you mean by 'before freezing' what is the freezing message?
[05:37] <jeeves__> how can I change my rez on my screen?  I tried the restricted drivers only to find out that it locks up my system.  So I unselected them, and now I'm stuck in a max of 800x600
[05:37] <amenado> guido_-> do you use update-modules command? it is indeed obsolete
[05:38] <ankit_> xtknight: no, the accelerated graphics are working very well, and I'm having no problems with the graphics card
[05:38] <pobbel> Is it normal to have two kernel options at boot for Hardy i.e. 2.6.24-16 an 2.6.24-19 ?
[05:38] <unavailable> ankit_ can you post a page that is slowscrolling?
[05:38] <xtknight> pobbel, yes old one are saved
[05:38]  * ComanDos foka :K
[05:38] <ankit_> unavailable: facebook.com
[05:38] <chronographer> the machine actually freezing... there are 5 mins between that message and the first next time (ater restart
[05:38] <koyo001> i have a problem with totem
[05:38] <xtknight> ankit_, facebook can be a bit slow for me, sems to have a lot of images and media
[05:38] <pobbel> xtknight: thanks
[05:38] <RevFnord> xtknight - I am getting a NO_PUBKEY error
[05:38]  * ComanDos foka :K !
[05:38]  * ComanDos foka :K !`
[05:38]  * ComanDos foka :K !``
[05:38] <unavailable> ankit_ i dont use facebook, so i cant see if its common or not, got another??
[05:39] <koyo001> it plays everything in slow motion
[05:39] <koyo001> has anyone had this happen to them
[05:39] <xtknight> RevFnord, your repository would benefit from using a GPG key.  see if the site provides one
[05:39] <ankit_> unavailable: sorry, http://www.tuaw.com/ does too, but not as much
[05:39] <guido_> amenado: I don't.. it came up during this command "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19-generic"
[05:39] <ankit_> xtknight: slow to the point where it's unusable? and it works fine on any other OS, so I'm fairly sure something is wrong
[05:39] <RevFnord> xtknight - Thank You
[05:39] <jeeves__> Flannel, man, you must live in here.
[05:39] <unavailable> ankit_ seems to be not localized, it happens to me too
[05:39] <pobbel> has anyone had the problem that requires them to disable roaming then enable roaming before their wireless will connect?
[05:40]  * ComanDos no kick!
[05:40] <xtknight> ankit_, not unusable.  it is mildly laggy on mine because it has a lot of graphics.  not much you can do about that.  GPU can't accelerate everything
[05:40] <koyo001> Totem plroblem
[05:40] <Flannel> ComanDos: Follow the rules
[05:40]  * ComanDos lol
[05:40] <alan_m> ComanDos, err...nevermind.
[05:40]  * ComanDos :(
[05:40] <amenado> guido_-> oh, i dont know then.
[05:40] <ankit_> xtknight: hm... so I just have to live with it? no workarounds or anything?
[05:40] <xtknight> ankit_, i have heard of some 2D acceleration problems in the newer nvidi cards but i have a nvidia 7800gt and no issues.  you said your video wasnt the problem so im not sure what's going on.  try closing all firefox windows then running firefox in the terminal and see if there are any errors
[05:40]  * ComanDos the bloody alboz...
[05:40] <ankit_> xtknight: good idea, didn't think of that
[05:40] <xtknight> pobbel, ive heard of people needing to use roaming mode enabled
[05:41] <l3d> where are the themes for kde located
[05:41] <cxo> I cant seem to get my wireless working, its a ipw2200 card, is that supported?
[05:41] <xtknight> ankit_, and you're not using compiz are you?
[05:41] <xtknight> cxo, ya is it not working for you?
[05:41] <xtknight> new drivers here http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[05:41] <ankit_> xtknight: actually, I am
[05:41] <xtknight> ankit_, can you try disabling it and see if it fixes it to help debug the problem
[05:42] <ankit_> xtknight: alright
[05:42] <unavailable> xtknight its happening to me too
[05:42] <cxo> xtknight, iwconfig makes it looks like everything is working, but i get no dhcp address
[05:42] <xtknight> unavailable, but is yours extremely slow, like one update every 2 seconds, or just mildly slow?
[05:42] <ankit_> xtknight: nope, same problem with metacity
[05:42] <xtknight> ankit_, and how slow is yours?  one update every 2 secs or so?  for me it is still a couple a second just a tad slower than text sites
[05:42] <unavailable> mildly slow xtknight
[05:43] <cxo> xtknight, do i need to install the firmware separately?
[05:43] <ankit_> xtknight: yes, something around that
[05:43] <xtknight> cxo, you can install wireless and other modules firmware into /lib/firmware but i am not sure if you must.  not all drivers require firmware
[05:43] <theRealBall> hi
[05:43] <Sp0tter> I'm trying to create an auto-install ubuntu server cd using preseeeding, been going through the tutorial and on my first real test with it i get the  isolinux checksum error because i remastered the iso image.  Is there a way to disable this check? It's much easier to have the seed file on the install cd then on a seperate media
[05:43] <xtknight> ankit_, can you try installing konqueror(KDE web browser) and see if it happens here?
[05:43] <xtknight> or opera
[05:44] <Flannel> Sp0tter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[05:44] <ankit_> xtknight: I think I already have some KDE libs installed, so that shouldn't take too long... I'll try it
[05:44] <Bad_Hacker> I am running Ubuntu on a PC Chips M810 LMR-H with about 630 of ram, and running a ati radeon 128mb 9600 card. I notice that once I installed the graphic card it appears that the screen goes " blank or black" is this some sort of bug with ati radeon cards and xforce software, if so, how can i fix this issue? Please help. Thanks!!!
[05:44] <xtknight> ok
[05:44] <Bad_Hacker> *640
[05:44] <Sp0tter> Flannel, thanks.
[05:45] <unavailable> xtknight ankit_ well there are a lot of scripts on that site: http://www.tuaw.com/   but thats not the problem either
[05:45] <miranda> hi again...how do I increase memory on my hard drive for ubuntu installation
[05:46] <bazhang> miranda, not your hdd, need to add ram
[05:46] <ankit_> unavailable: yea, it's only on Ubuntu that this happens
[05:46] <sugi> how do i mount a iso from terminal??  mount /path/to/iso/ /path/to/mount/point/
[05:46] <miranda> no it says you have 3000 and you need 5000
[05:46] <Bad_Hacker> I am running Ubuntu on a PC Chips M810 LMR-H with about 640 of ram, and running a ati radeon 128mb 9600 card. I notice that once I installed the graphic card it appears that the screen goes " blank or blacks out" is this some sort of bug with ati radeon cards and xforce software, if so, how can i fix this issue? Please help. Thanks!!!
[05:46] <Flannel> !iso | sugi
[05:46] <BigUrsis> Does anyone here have any ipod and the most recent version of quod libet? (from the repos)
[05:46] <Blaqlight> !repeat | Bad_Hacker
[05:47] <bazhang> miranda, you are referring to hard drive space; though with 64mb of ram it is a moot point
[05:47] <miranda> ok
[05:47] <bazhang> Bad_Hacker, what version of ubuntu
[05:47] <miranda> I am using kubuntu though...but this isn't kubuntu help though
[05:47] <xtknight> !kubuntu | miranda
[05:47] <Bad_Hacker> ubuntu 8.04
[05:47] <Bad_Hacker> Sorry, Ubottu!!!
[05:47] <bazhang> miranda, you have kubuntu installed successfully with only 64mb of ram?
[05:48] <miranda> xtknight: thanks for the reminder :-)
[05:48] <miranda> bazhang: no I am trying to install
[05:48] <bazhang> miranda, no way kubuntu will install on that tiny amount of ram
[05:48] <unavailable> Problem with Screenlets, three of them will not autostart on login and these three also do not show up in the session manager, when the other four do.
[05:48] <miranda> bazhang: ok what do you suggest?
[05:48] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[05:49] <bazhang> Bad_Hacker, what driver are you using for that video card
[05:49] <Blaqlight> miranda: your going to need more ram to install a funtioning system.
[05:49] <Bad_Hacker> Ubuntu installed the FLGRX Driver
[05:49] <bazhang> miranda, is adding ram just not an option? you insist on running that system as is?
[05:49] <chronographer> do you get a white screen after login?
[05:49] <sugi> Flannel: thanks
[05:50] <Bonster> use acetoneiso if u need to mount
[05:50] <miranda> bazhang: yes
[05:50] <miranda> bazhang: SDRAM =  RAM right?
[05:51] <chronographer> miranda, try xubuntu for little ram
[05:51] <bazhang> miranda, yes, as is?
[05:51] <bazhang> chronographer, that is too heavy
[05:51] <unavailable> miranda as long as its not rdram    youre in the good...
[05:51] <ankit_> xtknight, unavailable: same problem in konqueror
[05:51] <Bonster> use puppy linux if u got slow pc
[05:51] <Bad_Hacker> ...
[05:51] <Yhapster> hey lucent, you still here?
[05:51] <miranda> Bonster: link?
[05:51] <bazhang> miranda, care to join #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[05:52] <Bonster> google
[05:52] <miranda> bazhang: ok
[05:52] <Blaqlight> windows 98 is built for little ram, most OS's these days require atleast 128MB of ram
[05:52] <ankit_> xtknight, unavailable: it's better on konqueror though... less noticable, but it might be because konqueror doesn't have smooth scrolling
[05:52] <unavailable> could be ankit_
[05:53] <unavailable> miranda  http://www.acetoneiso.netsons.org/
[05:53] <Blaqlight> you could probably get gentoo to run though. with a little work and all commandline.
[05:53] <xtknight> ankit_, hmmm well i'm still thinking some type of video resource allocation issue.  i dont know though.  does it get better if you close all your big windows except irc and one firefox
[05:53] <Bad_Hacker> Bazhang:???
[05:54] <pobbel> Why do I need to disable roaming in network admin and then re-enable roaming before network manager will connect my wireless?
[05:54] <xtknight> ankit_, what kind of CPU are you using as well?
[05:54] <ankit_> xtknight: that's all I have open
[05:54] <xtknight> no telling, network manager is kinda buggy
[05:54] <cow_sedih> alo
[05:54] <ankit_> xtknight: Core 2 Duo (Conroe) 2.67 GHz * 2
[05:54] <bazhang> Bad_Hacker, the hardware drivers was where you added the drivers?
[05:54] <Bad_Hacker> Yes.
[05:55] <pobbel> I have tried wicd but it will not connect and network manager will not connect either, the only way I can connect is using ntwork manager
[05:55] <xtknight> ankit_, ohh ok more than i have lol
[05:55] <pobbel> network admin I mean
[05:55] <Bad_Hacker> After the install of the driver, and with in 2-5 mins. of web surfing  the screen goes blank or blacks out.
[05:55] <fazuka_> i did a fresh install of hardy and my broadcom wireless can't connect to my wireless network after i installed the driver in hardware drivers
[05:55] <ankit_> xtknight, unavailable: actually, facebook is fine on konqueror, but tuaw.com is slow on both, so I think these are two seperate problems...
[05:55] <ankit_> tuaw.com might be slow on all systems.
[05:55] <unavailable> ok to fix my screenlets problem would i be able to make an executable sh added to startup with the required lines??
[05:56] <xtknight> ankit_, i have no idea.  no sites i visit update once every 2 secs, most are just slightly laggier
[05:56] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: then i would have to resort to a soft reboot.
[05:56] <ankit_> this is bothersome...
[05:56] <xtknight> kinda feels like running in sand but not like extremely slow
[05:56] <xtknight> hmmm
[05:56] <FlyRyan> hmm
[05:56] <ankit_> hmm
[05:57] <bazhang> Bad_Hacker, this is nvidia?
[05:57] <xtknight> ankit_, does it happen in vesa and have you ever tried the nouveau drivers?
[05:58] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: no, ATI card
[05:58] <ankit_> xtknight: not sure, but I definitely don't want to screw with my video drivers again... had to reinstall last time I tried something stupid, haha.
[05:58] <pobbel> okay then, cant I get my wireless to connect manually under network admin?
[05:58] <cxo> xtknight, hey man, figured it out
[05:58] <cxo> i used to gui to type in my ascii wep key
[05:58] <xtknight> ankit_, ah well you can always try a livecd to try the vesa/nv ones
[05:58] <cxo> and looked at the hex it produced, using iwconfig
[05:58] <cxo> and it was incorrect
[05:58] <cxo> so i used md5sum manually and did it
[05:58] <xtknight> ankit_, might give you some closure i have no idea how to fix the problem you're having though.   no messages in dmesg i assume
[05:58] <cxo> and now it works
[05:58] <xtknight> cxo, ah i see
[05:59] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: an Ati raideon 9600 card.
[05:59] <eruisto> Hey guys, I'm having a hard time setting my Xorg resolution. I'm not using a default Ubuntu/Gnome install; I have an Ubuntu-server install with fluxbox/X11 installed myself. Everything works great with the monitor attached (1280x1024-60Hz, autodetected), but I'm going to be removing the monitor and using VNC to use the GUI for the few things I need it for. The only problem is, My main PC's resolution is 1440x900, which is shorter th
[05:59] <eruisto> an the server's. I'm trying to get X11 to use a 1024x768 resolution instead of 1280x1024, but everything I'm trying is not working. My current xorg.conf is http://pastebin.com/m1ce75b96. I've tried doing the "Display" subsection with the resolution, etc, but it didn't work. Is there something I'm missing?
[05:59] <The_Gopher> Hi again, I tried doing things with the command line interfact (ctrl-alt-f1), but it doesnt kill x, when I tried killing it manually it just restarted the x interface
[05:59] <ankit_> xtknight: true, but the I think the nvidia proprietary drivers are the best of the lot. and nope, no messages in dmesg
[06:00] <The_Gopher> is there a way I can change a runlevel to start with all my processes without x?
[06:00] <ankit_> The_Gopher: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:00] <The_Gopher> is that just for the session?
[06:00] <xtknight> ya that just stops gdm
[06:00] <xtknight> for now
[06:00] <The_Gopher> right on
[06:00] <railz> ok this is driving me nuts.  i want to specify dns manually, if i change resolve.conf it changes on reboot.
[06:00] <ankit_> The_Gopher: yes, that just stops it until you reboot or restart it manually
[06:00] <xtknight> railz, you need to edit dhclient conf files
[06:01] <The_Gopher> righto, let me try that thanks
[06:01] <xtknight> railz,  i think it's /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf you need to modify
[06:01] <ankit_> wow, konqueror is weird on gnome
[06:02] <xtknight> railz that tells you how to change dns on ubuntu https://www.opendns.com/start/ubuntu.php
[06:02] <ankit_> the quest for finding a browser that works when firefox doesn't begins...
[06:03] <Blaqlight> ankit_: try opera
[06:03] <fyrestrtr> ankit_: Konqueror, Opera.
[06:03] <xtknight> opera,midori (webkit),epiphany w/ gecko, epiphany w/ webkit backend,etc
[06:04] <Blaqlight> unless you like text based ones, then its linx
[06:04] <railz> xtknight, i've done what's detailed on that site and yet it's still replacing it's own auto-detected dns
[06:04] <ankit_> well I don't like opera, konqueror is wonky on gnome, and I'm checking out midori and stuff now
[06:04] <Bad_Hacker> Bazhang: Should I uninstall the "Hardware Driver" Ubuntu set for, so I can use this method " https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI "
[06:04] <ankit_> Blaqlight: only when I get really dirty.
[06:04] <l3d> ok I did figure out why the kde apps wasnt taking the gnome theme I had well with out knowing it installed the apps for kde4 and not just kde I dont know why but it does make a difference
[06:04] <xtknight> railz, even replacing dhclient conf?
[06:05] <l3d> thank god for synaptic
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> railz: you can customize your dhcp client's configuration to ignore or pre-pend your custom DNS to the ones pushed to you by the server.
[06:05] <xtknight> railz, it could be something with network-manager but i'm not sure how to fix that
[06:05] <blogi> how can i install driver in my lan card?
[06:05] <Blaqlight> linx is really nice for all text. it does everything 1000 times faster than any other browser.
[06:05] <ankit_> links2 -g is pretty nice for graphical too
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> Blaqlight: linx can also display images.
[06:06] <railz> ok trying something. resetting my nic
[06:06] <Blaqlight> but then you get no tpretty pictures.
[06:06] <The_Gopher> ok so I tried installing my nvidia drivers (up to date, following instructions...now) but it seems by trying to install them in runlevel 1 I kinda screwed up the installation, any advice on what I should do?
[06:06] <ankit_> midori is a little unpolished, but fine for only a website or two... definitely works on certain sites where firefox fails
[06:06] <bazhang> fglrxinfo run that command in terminal Bad_Hacker and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com (NOT here)
[06:07] <blogi> how can i install my new lan car driver?
[06:07] <Blaqlight> fyrestrtr: how... when they are ASCII?
[06:08] <bazhang> blogi, which chipset
[06:08] <Bad_Hacker> oKay, once the computer is up and running, It froze again.
[06:08] <cre8torx> ? what distro's of linux are for pda's
[06:08] <The_Gopher> at least it'd be great if somebody could tell me how to reset my driver installation so I can do it again the proper way
[06:08] <Bad_Hacker> had to reboot
[06:08] <eruisto> Nobody know anything about X11?
[06:08] <railz> if i run sudo ifdown eth0 i get eht0 not configured
[06:08] <eruisto> ='[
[06:08] <ankit_> midori is a box of crash...
[06:08] <railz> but i verified it's eth0 and not eht1
[06:08] <bazhang> eruisto, what is the question
[06:08] <eruisto> I'm having a hard time setting my Xorg resolution. I'm not using a default Ubuntu/Gnome install; I have an Ubuntu-server install with fluxbox/X11 installed myself. Everything works great with the monitor attached (1280x1024-60Hz, autodetected), but I'm going to be removing the monitor and using VNC to use the GUI for the few things I need it for. The only problem is, My main PC's resolution is 1440x900, which is shorter than the ser
[06:08] <eruisto> ver's. I'm trying to get X11 to use a 1024x768 resolution instead of 1280x1024, but everything I'm trying is not working. My current xorg.conf is http://pastebin.com/m1ce75b96. I've tried doing the "Display" subsection with the resolution, etc, but it didn't work. Is there something I'm missing?
[06:08] <eruisto> ^ That >.<
[06:08] <ankit_> cre8torx: what PDA?
[06:08] <fyrestrtr> Blaqlight: it can use the framebuffer device to render images, and ASCII is not the same thing as text :)
[06:09] <Blaqlight> ankit_: lol
[06:09] <cre8torx> palm treo 650
[06:09] <Blaqlight> fyrestrtr: man much has changed since my gentoo days then.
[06:09] <ankit_> oooh, epiphany looks promising
[06:09] <xtknight> ankit_, also galeon
[06:09] <ankit_> fastest of them all so far
[06:10] <fyrestrtr> Blaqlight: ASCII is older than Gentoo or Linux
[06:10] <ankit_> xtknight: cool, I'll check it out, thanks
[06:10] <Blaqlight> and yes I knew that,
[06:10] <xtknight> ankit_, and try firefox-2 while ur at it lol
[06:10] <blogi> ﻿bazhang: 3com
[06:10] <EmmcoRe> I have soundcore compiled as a module but I dont know how to install it :|
[06:10] <ankit_> xtknight: actually, firefox-2 worked, so perhaps...
[06:10] <EmmcoRe> someboody ?
[06:10] <cre8torx> is there a distro for download that's for PDA
[06:10] <bazhang> blogi, this is usb external or pci internal
[06:11] <xtknight> !mobile
[06:11] <xtknight> ?
[06:11] <fyrestrtr> EmmcoRe: modprobe
[06:11] <blogi> pci lan card
[06:11] <cre8torx> mobilelinux
[06:11] <cre8torx> ?
[06:11] <EmmcoRe> fyrestrtr: that is the command ?
[06:11] <Blaqlight> well before I get foot in mouth disease again, Ive gotta go lol
[06:11] <bazhang> #linux cre8torx
[06:11] <GraniteGargoyle> anyone know why I can't get desktop effects going
[06:11] <blogi> what u mean bazhang?
[06:12] <cre8torx> yeah
[06:12] <ankit_> GraniteGargoyle: no? give us some more to go on.
[06:12] <bazhang> cre8torx, that is the channel to ask in
[06:12] <fyrestrtr> EmmcoRe: yes, modprobe nameofmodule
[06:12] <lebutcherpc> i tried compiz fusion
[06:12] <Blaqlight> blogi: please do not PM me abain without asking.
[06:12] <GraniteGargoyle> I try to enable them and it just says it is unable to start them
[06:12] <cxo> i love this ubuntu thing
[06:12] <blogi> sorry
[06:12] <cre8torx> i put linux on every thing except pda
[06:12] <EmmcoRe> fyrestrtr: Ok let me see
[06:12] <kuding> i love ubuntu too
[06:12] <bazhang> blogi, open a terminal and type lspci and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com (NOT here)
[06:13] <GraniteGargoyle> not sure how to see if 3d accel is on
[06:13] <lebutcherpc> you do have a graphics card right?
[06:13] <cxo> ive used redhat for over 10yrs now, and the difference is like night and day
[06:13] <Blaqlight> cre8torx: that treo 650 has nothing even halfway decent in the way of hardware.
[06:13] <blogi> ok
[06:13] <ankit_> cre8torx: oh YEA? my TOASTER runs linux... you should see the kernel panics... thats why I had to move to this house.
[06:13] <lebutcherpc> make sure drivers are properly installes
[06:13] <blogi> where do i paste it?
[06:13] <cxo> its like someone actually used the distro before they released it
[06:13] <bazhang> blogi, paste.ubuntu.com
[06:13] <Blaqlight> ankit_: lmao
[06:13] <blogi> website?
[06:13] <kuding> i never used redhat, what it do like
[06:13] <lebutcherpc> and also the latest drivers for the card
[06:13] <bazhang> yes blogi
[06:13] <cre8torx> yeah but for 30 bucks who cares
[06:13] <blogi> ok..hehehe
[06:14] <GraniteGargoyle> leb how to check that?
[06:14] <bazhang> take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:14] <blogi> bazhang...in the forum?
[06:15] <bazhang> blogi, no; open a terminal and type lspci then paste the output of that to paste.ubuntu.com
[06:15] <guido_> hey, I mistakenly installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.09-pkg1.run asked me if it should try to make a module, i said yes but now the nvidia drivers don't work and I can only use nv. help!
[06:15] <ankit_> cre8torx: s/he said that because you're trying to run linux on it... the hardware isn't really up to the challenge.
[06:15] <bazhang> blogi, dont paste it here.
[06:15] <cre8torx> blaqlight it beats' the gay palm OS  that's on it besides carring a laptop with you every where can be a little painful
[06:15] <storm-zen> I'm having difficulty with grub.  I'm getting 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure, but fsck 'ing reveals a clean partition.  Anyone have an idea what might be happening?
[06:15] <bazhang> cre8torx, this is not a chat channel.
[06:15] <kiosk> hari
[06:16] <blogi> where do i paste it in ubuntu.com, which part of the site?
[06:16] <bazhang> blogi, paste.ubuntu.com is the site.
[06:16] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/m494a9fca
[06:16] <lebutcherpc> i can't get a cube on compiz fusion
[06:16] <lebutcherpc> somebody help
[06:17] <ankit_> lebutcherpc: do you have compiz fusion running?
[06:17] <ankit_> and accelerated graphics working?
[06:17] <gescape> hi
[06:17] <cre8torx> hi
[06:17] <lebutcherpc> i installed everything but i cant see it
[06:17] <cre8torx> bad monitor
[06:17] <lebutcherpc> all i get is the beryl icon
[06:17] <bazhang> lebutcherpc, install 3d drivers, install compizconfig-settings-manager set appearances visual effects then in ccsm set virtual horizontal desktops to 4
[06:17] <gescape> is menu.lst in ubuntu relevant to grub.conf?
[06:17] <blogi> http://pastebin.com/m5702c975 ----i paste it in here
[06:18] <cre8torx> ask ubotu
[06:18] <bazhang> cre8torx, please stop
[06:18] <lebutcherpc> how do i get to ccsm
[06:18] <harpreet> !ubotu
[06:19] <cre8torx> your the one who's talking to me im just tring to help some folks out
[06:19] <legend2440> storm-zen: http://www.astahost.com/info.php/problem-grub_t8599.html
[06:19] <ankit_> cre8torx: that would be awfully nice of you if you knew what you were talking about...
[06:19] <guido_> hey, I mistakenly installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.09-pkg1.run asked me if it should try to make a module, i said yes but now the nvidia drivers don't work and I can only use nv. this is what dmesg|grep NVRM says http://paste.ubuntu.com/30798/ help!
[06:19] <jeeves__> is there a way to find out what program caused the last crash that just happened?
[06:20] <ankit_> cre8torx: unfortunately, it seems like this is not the case, and "bad monitor" is probably not why he doesn't have compiz working... so, in bazhang's words, please stop.
[06:20] <bazhang> lebutcherpc, in system prefs advanced desktop settings
[06:20] <jeeves__> ankit_, don't feel bad, I've got a display problem as well!
[06:20] <blogi> bazhang: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/30802/
[06:20] <fyrestrtr> jeeves__: there is a crash monitor in hardy that should pick it up.
[06:20] <Bad_Hacker> Bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30801/
[06:21] <jeeves__> fyrestrtr, well, this system locked up, then hard rebooted back to a cold boot
[06:21] <storm-zen> legend2440: Am I to take it, then, that what I'm doing wrong is trying to install grub to (hd2,0) instead of (hd2) ?
[06:21] <ankit_> jeeves__: oh, I don't, I was just pointing out to cre8torx that his diagnosis is probably wrong
[06:21] <ankit_> what happened to your monitor?
[06:22] <jeeves__> ankit_, ahhhh, think you can help me lick this nVidia issue?
[06:22] <bazhang> Bad_Hacker, please paste xorg.conf to paste.ubuntu.com
[06:22] <lebutcherpc> ok in ther right now
[06:22] <Bad_Hacker> alright
[06:23] <bazhang> blogi, dont see any wireless in there
[06:23] <blogi> its not wireless
[06:23] <blogi> lan card for cable
[06:23] <ankit_> jeeves__: I might be be able to, lemme see what I can do
[06:23] <storm-zen> legend2440: Installing to (hd2) didn't fix it either.
[06:24] <bazhang> blogi, open a terminal and type ifconfig; how many entries two or three
[06:24] <blogi> bzhang i just added new lan card...which is 3com
[06:24] <ankit_> I need to go off topic for just a second here to point out... FAIL IS cre8torx. yeesh.
[06:24] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here have any experience with 8.04.1 freezing when it tries to scan disks in the installer?
[06:24] <blogi> only eth0
[06:24] <ankit_> FunnyLookinHat: I had that before
[06:24] <FunnyLookinHat> ankit_: any solution?
[06:24] <bazhang> blogi, and that will not connect; is that the issue?
[06:24] <ankit_> FunnyLookinHat: I just rebooted and tried again and it worked
[06:25] <blogi> its note detected
[06:25] <blogi> its not detected
[06:25] <legend2440> storm-zen: are you dual booting windows and ubuntu?
[06:25] <jeeves__> ankit_, ok, it's the "common" nVidia issue.  artifacts, flashing screen, X freezes, grey screen, etc
[06:25] <storm-zen> legend2440: No.  There isn't a trace of Windows on the box.
[06:25] <ankit_> jeeves__: what card do you have?
[06:25] <FunnyLookinHat> ankit_: heh, I hate using the windows "fix-it-all" solution on Linux... but I'll give it a try.
[06:25] <bazhang> blogi, this is an external pci card? did you hotplug it or was it in when you started up
[06:25] <jeeves__> ankit_, it's a nVidia 7300GO in a Toshiba P100
[06:26] <ankit_> FunnyLookinHat: haha, yea, I have no idea why it does that sometimes, but it just worked eventually... it was frusterating, I had to do it twice or thrice.
[06:26] <storm-zen> legend2440: Sorry, that may have sounded a little unfriendly.  I'm just frustrated.  Been at this for hours.
[06:26] <lebutcherpc> thanks for the help
[06:26] <blogi> bazhang---yes...i restarted my pc then put my new lan card then reboot
[06:26] <legend2440> storm-zen: no problem
[06:26] <Bad_Hacker> Bazhang: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30804/
[06:26] <ankit_> jeeves__: hm, alright... are your running on the nvidia proprietary drivers?
[06:26] <storm-zen> ... last day at this office and it up and fries at 6pm on saturday.
[06:26] <kiosk> chatting
[06:27] <ankit_> marmelaati: haha, nice comic on your /quit
[06:27] <jeeves__> ankit_, if I run the restricted set, it locks up every 45 or so seconds.  So I'm using the Envyng set of drivers, and I'm getting some glitches.  I've tried running the driver from the nVidia site as well.  nothing works.  This is the ONLY thing left on the latop to get running.
[06:28] <EmmcoRe> Somebody knows the name of the module...
[06:28] <EmmcoRe> filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko
[06:28] <EmmcoRe> alias:          char-major-14-*
[06:28] <EmmcoRe> license:        GPL
[06:28] <EmmcoRe> author:         Alan Cox
[06:28] <EmmcoRe> description:    Core sound module
[06:28] <FloodBot2> EmmcoRe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:28] <EmmcoRe> srcversion:     548AA54AF08207316C104F8
[06:28] <jacobu> I have a Dell Latitude D600 with an internal resolution of 1024x768, hooked up to an external VGA monitor with a resolution of 1280x1024.  The external monitor shows the screen at 1280x1024, but the gnome toolbars and gdm login window are all only displayed in the top left corner of the screen at the 1024x768 resolution.  How can I fix this?  I only want to use the external monitor, so I tried disabling the internal screen with xrandr to no avail.  Help is m
[06:28] <Emm> ¬¬
[06:29] <jeeves__> ankit_, trust me, I've been @ this ALL day today.  I FINALLY got everything else running on the unit (sound, etc), and now it's just this video issue
[06:29] <ankit_> jeeves__: that's very weird, did you try the nvidia-new drivers in the repositories?
[06:29] <fyrestrtr> EmmcoRe: its soundcore
[06:29] <blogi> bazhang?
[06:30] <bazhang> blogi, pcmcia card?
[06:30] <jeeves__> ankit_, I've tried the nvidia-glk, nvidia-glk-new, and nvidia-glk-legacy  AND the drivers from the nvidia site, etc.
[06:30] <jeeves__> ankit_, ALL of them product the atrifacts, and system lock ups.
[06:31] <fyrestrtr> jeeves__: you need to let the hardware wizard find the drivers for you, not guess like that.
[06:31] <Bad_Hacker> blogi: patience is virtue...He's a busy person....
[06:31] <jeeves__> fyrestrtr, and how do I do that?
[06:31] <ankit_> jeeves__: yea, I agree with fyrestrtr. I think that might have caused some of the issues.
[06:31] <ankit_> jeeves__: you go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[06:31] <Bad_Hacker> He's helping alot of others as well.
[06:32] <legend2440> storm-zen: can you paste your   /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[06:32] <legend2440> !paste
[06:32] <jeeves__> ankit_, I did that when it first fired up, and the drivers it "reccomends" locks the system up and forced a hard reboot
[06:32] <bazhang> Bad_Hacker, did you use envyng-gtk? perhaps the logs will tell a tale, though at this point I'm on fumes as ATI is something I dont know a heck of a lot about; also, do you need the 3d stuff for compiz etc or just dont care
[06:33] <EmmcoRe> fyrestrtr: matias@Pnomic:~$ modprobe soundcore
[06:33] <EmmcoRe> matias@Pnomic:~$
[06:33] <EmmcoRe> nothing happend
[06:33] <ankit_> jeeves__: every time? by the way, you don't have to hard reboot, you can: 1. try to restart X (CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE)   2. emergency reboot (Alt+SysRq+ R E I S U B)
[06:33] <fyrestrtr> EmmcoRe: you need to run it as sudo, and it doesn't output anything.
[06:33] <ankit_> EmmcoRe: modprobe doesn't have an output.
[06:33] <fyrestrtr> EmmcoRe: in other words, if nothing happened, something good happened.
[06:34] <jeeves__> ankit_, you're right, a better way of saying it is it CRASHES back to a cold boot
[06:34] <EmmcoRe> ok
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> EmmcoRe: you can verify if its loaded and being used by lsmode | grep soundcode
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> err, soundcore
[06:34] <Athenon_> ok guys....ive used ubuntu before, but im having a really weird problem this time around (even used the same version before without it happening....on the same computer)....when i use synaptic to install stuff, itll only download a bit and then itll freeze and i have to either wait awhile or restart the synaptic download......how can i fix this?
[06:34] <EmmcoRe> ok
[06:34] <ankit_> jeeves__: oh, sorry, my fault
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> ankit_: wouldn't ya know...  that fixed it.   haha thanks!
[06:34] <jeeves__> ankit_, naaa, it was mine, I didn't word it right
[06:34] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: It would be nice to have compiz on, but it is a memory hog, so it does not matter. Also, I have not used " envyng-gtk " is there an install guide for it.
[06:34] <Athenon_> its on wireless, but thats the same as last time too -_-
[06:34] <ankit_> FunnyLookinHat: yea, it's weird... no problem.
[06:35] <jacobu> nm, ignore earlier query, in case anybody cared anyway
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> Athenon_: sounds like a problem with your Internet.
[06:35] <Athenon_> fyrestrtr: this computer uses the same internet without any issues....even wireless....a tad further away from the router in fact
[06:35] <ankit_> jeeves__: hm... I'm not really exceptionally good with video drivers... I've had my share of problems with them, so sorry if I'm not really helping
[06:35] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: i only have 640 mb of ram, so no, I do not need compiz?
[06:36] <fyrestrtr> Athenon_: where does it stop?
[06:36] <bazhang> Bad_Hacker, mixed opinion on envyng-gtk; it 'works for me', but others dislike it; it does allow for the 3d drivers etc though
[06:36] <Athenon_> fyrestrtr: whenever and wherever it feels like....it doesnt stop after a set time or at a set place or anything
[06:36] <ankit_> jeeves__: my solution to video driver issues is a reinstall, and letting the auto config work it's magic... but that doesn't seem to be helping you...
[06:37] <ankit_> jeeves__: did you try the "nv" driver?
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> Athenon_: I meant where in the process does it stop -- refreshing repos, downloading, installing, etc. Or is it random.
[06:37] <jeeves__> ankit_, this is a fresh install!!  as in less than 2 hours!
[06:37] <Athenon_> fyrestrtr: downloading....always downloading :P
[06:37] <Athenon_> fyrestrtr: it stops and gives me a download rate of unknown
[06:37] <bazhang> iirc the radeonhd non 3d is not bad for ati; again I have nvidia, so that is just from observing here Bad_Hacker
[06:38] <ankit_> jeeves__: did you try the "nv" or "nouveau" drivers?
[06:38] <storm-zen> legend2440: Sort of... I can type it what I'm trying to start the bootup.  In theory, I have access to the network on that box, but I would need some sort of script to get the contents to the pastebin.
[06:38] <jeeves__> ankit_, nv driver?  do you have a howto on that?
[06:38] <fyrestrtr> Athenon_: change your repos
[06:38] <bazhang> Athenon_, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com for us to see
[06:39] <ankit_> jeeves__: it's an alternative to the proprietary "nvidia" drivers
[06:39] <jeeves__> ankit_, do you have a URL for a howto
[06:39] <storm-zen> so much for the console paste idea, I don't have perl in the rescue environment.
[06:40] <ankit_> jeeves__: the thing is, do you want accelerated 3D (compiz or games or the like)?
[06:40] <ankit_> jeeves__: if you just want a working accelerated 2D solution, those drivers might be the answer.
[06:40] <jeeves__> ankit_, yea.  that's the problem.  what's annoying me is that up untill 2 major releases ago, EVERYTHING worked fine.
[06:40] <Athenon_> bazhang: i, erm...cant :S
[06:41] <bazhang> Athenon_, why not?
[06:41] <Athenon_> bazhang: i cant get a web browser to load to pastebin the thing -_-  firefox says its running even though its not....i even did a ps -gaux |grep fire
[06:41] <Binho> hi fulks
[06:41] <bazhang> Athenon_, can you install pastebinit?
[06:41] <Binho> alguém fala português?
[06:41] <ankit_> jeeves__: hm, I'm not sure if the nouveau drivers have 3D or not
[06:42] <bazhang> !pt | Binho
[06:42] <Athenon_> bazhang: let me check the next time it freezes
[06:42] <Binho> thanks!!
[06:43] <rexus> hi guys, how can i add a user into a particular group?
[06:43] <bazhang> Athenon_, if you can install pastebinit then cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit and tell us the url your terminal shows
[06:43] <ankit_> jeeves__: seems like 3D is very very shaky in the nouveau drivers right now, so looks like the nvidia drivers are your only shot at 3D.
[06:43] <jeeves__> ankit_, hummm, have 3d and crashes, or put up with 2D.  WOW, choices!
[06:43] <Athenon_> bazhang: nod, i will.  synaptic is currently installing stuff though....although if it doesnt freeze i dont have a problem anymore XD
[06:44] <bazhang> Athenon_, okay; just a fyi then :)
[06:44] <Athenon_> bazhang: hehe thanks.  it hasnt frozen in awhile....my friend suggested to change my mirror, and so far that seems to be working
[06:44] <jeeves__> ankit_, well, I guess anything is better than the freezing.  how do I install the the drivers?
[06:45] <ankit_> jeeves__: you can try uninstalling everything graphics related and then reinstalling the nvidia drivers to see if that helps... maybe some remenants from the various driver installs are causing problems?
[06:45] <Bad_Hacker> Anyone know of good open source driver for ATI Radeon 9600 Card.
[06:45] <help1234564321> hi I'm trying to play pogo games on ubuntu.... was able to install java 6.0.0.7 java applet starts but does not completely load (applet bail)
[06:46] <jeeves__> ankit_, I've tried that allready
[06:46] <ankit_> Bad_Hacker: the radeon drivers are pretty decent, arent they?
[06:46] <mlLK> anyone know how to exclude a path w/ du?
[06:47] <Maco10> Ubuntu piada
[06:47] <storm-zen> legend2440: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30812/  (thanks!)
[06:47] <help1234564321> can anyone help me?
[06:47] <bazhang> Maco10, do you have a support question?
[06:48] <student> how do I add users to groups via the command line?
[06:48] <Brome> 'gMorning all. I get the package management error "E: dpkg was interruped, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" However, when I do that I get "too man errors, stopping. dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:252:process_queue: Assertion '!queuelen' Failed. It encounters lots of kde dependancy problems (kde4 I think). Can anybody help me?
[06:48] <Bad_Hacker> ankit_: are you talking about Proprietary Drivers? If so, then no, in my case.
[06:48] <genii> student: sudo usermod -G newgroupname -a username
[06:48] <storm-zen> student: Something like usermod, I believe.
[06:48] <blogi> ﻿bazhang: blogi, pcmcia card?----whats a pcmcia?
[06:49] <ankit_> Bad_Hacker: aren't the radeon drivers the open-source ones?
[06:49] <genii> student: The -a is ultra important. If you omit it then "newgroupname" will be the ONLY group the user will belong to
[06:49] <storm-zen> genii: I've learned that one the hard way... ... repeatedly.
[06:49] <genii> storm-zen: Those are lessons you don't forget easily :)
[06:50] <bazhang> blogi, the fact that it is not detected is not an especially good sign; there is nothing in lspci that I can see about it; and as you restarted with the card in (ie not hotplugging when system is running) not sure where to take this
[06:50] <Bad_Hacker> they are, but the one's from the ATI/AMD Crew, have issues.
[06:50] <ankit_> jeeves__: to install the nv driver, I think all you need is: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv", and then change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver section for your video card to say "nv"
[06:50] <help1234564321> does anyone know why pogo and ubuntu don't work?
[06:51] <bazhang> blogi, though if you do see eth0 what does sudo dhclient eth0 return in the terminal (paste output to paste.ubuntu.com , NOT here)
[06:51] <Bad_Hacker> ATI/AM = Proprietary Drivers and then you have your Open source drivers.
[06:51] <jeeves__> ankit_, thanks man.
[06:51] <ankit_> jeeves__: haha, I didn't even fix your problem...
[06:52] <blogi> bazhang, does it need any driver to detect of something?
[06:53] <bazhang> blogi, you can see eth0 in ifconfig, correct? then try sudo dhclient eth0 and paste output to paste.ubuntu.com (make sure ethernet cable is attached of course)
[06:53] <ankit_> Bad_Hacker: I heard good things about the proprietary drivers recently, but I guess not in this instance... I had an ATi Radeon 9600XT and the open source drivers worked fairly tolerably and let me run compiz at a fairly decent FPS.
[06:53] <blogi> ok
[06:53] <m0u5e> i would like to set my hardware volume control tab to control PCM rather than volume, what is the manual way to do this (config file anywhere?)
[06:54] <Bad_Hacker> nice for you.
[06:54] <blogi> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/30814/
[06:54] <m0u5e> weird
[06:54] <m0u5e> it works now
[06:54] <m0u5e> nvm guys :D
[06:54] <m0u5e> coming to #ubuntu must automatically fix stuff lol
[06:54] <ankit_> m0u5e: System -> Preferences -> Sound, default mixer tracks
[06:55] <m0u5e> ankit_: there seems to just have been a delay, thx though, it works now :D
[06:55] <Brome> Anybody? I'm afraid my whole dpkg is fried...
[06:55] <legend2440> storm-zen: sorry i can't tell much from that. not really familiar with Centos. have you tried googling   grub error 16?
[06:55] <bazhang> blogi, there is a lease; it should be connected to the internet now
[06:55] <m0u5e> ankit_: also, do you know how to set so my volume is relative to a percentage system, rather than each step being logarithmically louder?
[06:56] <blogi> bazhang, my eth0 is fine...but my new lan card wont detect
[06:56] <legend2440> storm-zen: perhaps someone in    channel    #centos  would know
[06:56] <bazhang> blogi, new lan card? wired?
[06:56] <raghu> hiiiiiiiiiiii im unable to take snapshot by pressing print screen
[06:57] <raghu> can someone help
[06:57] <blogi> bazhang, i have two lan card eth0 and it should be eth1 (my new lan card)
[06:57] <ankit_> m0u5e: I thought it was a linear percentage increase as opposed to logarithmic, but I'm not sure. the on-screen display makes it seem like it is.
[06:57] <bazhang> blogi, why do you need two ethernet cards if the first is working
[06:57] <blogi> bazhang, yes...wired for my local connection
[06:57] <Dedoimedo> STORM-ZEN do you have any question regarding centos - i can help ... :)
[06:57] <ankit_> raghu: what happens when you press the print screen button?
[06:57] <blogi> for my local connection :)
[06:58] <bazhang> blogi, not sure what you mean; are you doing ics?
[06:58] <m0u5e> ankit_: it is for pcm, but for some reason master seems to be using a logarithmic scale
[06:58] <blogi> whats ics?
[06:58] <bazhang> !ics | blogi
[06:59] <ankit_> m0u5e: I'm not sure... you can change only PCM, if that works for you
[06:59] <blogi> ahhh....no. i have another connection for local and for internet
[06:59] <bazhang> blogi, no idea what you are trying to do.
[06:59] <blogi> its so tiresome to change between cables just to switch to local and internet..hehehe
[07:00] <m0u5e> ankit_: yeah i guess it works for now... just don't understand why it would ever be set to a log scale, not very practical for users
[07:00] <bazhang> blogi, good luck to you.
[07:00] <blogi> hehehe...it wont work that way?
[07:00] <ankit_> m0u5e: because we all love exponents!
[07:01] <m0u5e> lol
[07:01] <storm-zen> Dedoimedo: Yes.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/30812/  help greatly appreciated!!
[07:01] <rexus> hi guys, can i install firefox 2 altogether with firefox 3 in the same system?
[07:01] <student> genii, storm-zen: thanks
[07:01] <storm-zen> legend2440: Yes, tried googling error 16.  Was hoping for something common to linux.
[07:01] <ankit_> rexus: yes.
[07:01] <fairywings> i think so rexus. just make sure to create a new directory in /opt for it
[07:01] <genii> student: You're welcome. Use wisely :)
[07:01] <arooni> is there a way to make audacious gigantic?  also is there a way for it to have cool visualization effects (like winamp does .. that can full screen or big ? )?
[07:02] <rexus> so I cannot use the synaptic package manager then?
[07:02] <ankit_> rexus: sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[07:02] <havocstorm> does anyone else have the problem where their firefox crashes when trying to play falsh files?
[07:02] <ankit_> rexus: or search for firefox-2 in synaptic, if you prefer the GUI
[07:02] <bazhang> blogi, please address questions in the channel so others can help; as I said I have no idea how to help you at this point. Good Luck.
[07:03] <rexus> ankit_ I already have firefox 3 installed , currently I'm using 8.04
[07:03] <blogi> ohhh...i thought it would be a driver problem :(
[07:03] <ankit_> rexus: I'm fairly sure if you install the firefox-2 package, you can choose between firefox 2 and 3... they should have different entries in the Applications -> Internet menu
[07:04] <ankit_> rexus: I'm actually just installing firefox-2 myself
[07:05] <Raheem> !inf Opera
[07:05] <Raheem> !opera
[07:05] <cxo> Anyone running the ati driver, get a lockup when they logoff?
[07:05] <rexus> ankit_, are you using 8.04 as well?
[07:05] <ankit_> rexus: yes
[07:05] <ankit_> rexus: if you wait for a minute, I'll tell you how the install goes
[07:06] <rexus> ankit_: how do you installed the firefox 2? using the synaptic?
[07:06] <rexus> ankit_: I can wait
[07:06] <bazhang> !away > gardar`afk
[07:06] <akhil_> Is there any calculator which i can add to panel on Ubuntu 8.04? I have to  open gnome-calculator every time i want to do a calculation
[07:07] <akhil_> or probably something like Sticky notes
[07:07] <Bad_Hacker> brb
[07:07] <wbmj> akhil: you can add gnome-calculator
[07:07] <ankit_> rexus: works great, I can choose between firefox-2 and firefox-3 in the menu, firefox-3 is still the default. the settings are shared between them... even tab sessions, which is pretty cool.
[07:07] <akhil_> wbmj, Is there any option to always load it in scientific mode?
[07:07] <icesword> nickrud, hi, MR. Rudnick
[07:08] <wbmj> akhil: I believe it is in edit preferences
[07:08] <akhil_> wbmj, Thanks :)
[07:08] <wbmj> akhil:np
[07:08] <akhil_> wbmj, There is not Edit -> Preferences
[07:08] <ryan_> anyone know how to change permissions on a themes folder
[07:08] <akhil_> ** no
[07:08] <rexus> ankit_: did you install it using synaptic?
[07:09] <ryan_> no
[07:09] <ankit_> rexus: no, I used the command-line and apt-get, but it's the same thing... synaptic is just a front-end for apt-get, so you can use either.
[07:09] <osmosis> how can I install just a single packages from intrepid? (Im on hardy)
[07:09] <jacobu> Anybody know how to save the current configuration as set by xrandr?
[07:10] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that osmosis
[07:10] <amenado> rexus-> look into using  update-alternatives  for allowing you to have choices of which firefox to use
[07:10] <ryan_> i am just try to install a theme but i cannot copy or paste into the themes folder
[07:10] <wbmj> ryan_: left click on folder ;;;; go to properties
[07:10] <ryan_> ok
[07:10] <ryan_> im there
[07:10] <ankit_> amenado: that's only if he wants to change the default, otherwise just installing should be fine to use both
[07:10] <rexus> amenado: where is that update-alternatives?
[07:10] <wbmj> ryan_ most themes are drag and drop
[07:11] <ankit_> rexus: do you want firefox-2 to be your default browser?
[07:11] <Bubsy> does anyone know a good guide for setting up tv tuner cards?
[07:11] <ryan_> ok i do that and then nothing happens
[07:11] <ryan_> just to let u know im new but rlly intrested in ubuntu
[07:11] <amenado> ankit_-> using update-alternatives gives a cleaner way to choose which firefox to use does it not?
[07:11] <rexus> ankit_: no..
[07:12] <bazhang> ryan_, then it is a poorly written theme; try imetal for gnome from gnome-look.org
[07:12] <amenado> rexus-> man update-alternatives or google for how create the menu choices..i dont know the details off hand
[07:12] <ankit_> amenado: no, installing the firefox-3 and firefox-2 packages in 8.04 gives two seperate options in the menu, so you can choose between... update-alternatives doesn't even work with firefox actually
[07:13] <ankit_> rexus: then you don't need to tinker update-alternatives. just install firefox-2 and then you should be fine.
[07:13] <amenado> ankit_-> why would it not work, is the symlinks pointing to the correct firefox?
[07:13] <ryan_> ok i  will i am using Hardy-Mariux 2.0
[07:13] <rexus> ankit_: let me try your way first
[07:13] <bazhang> ryan_, what distro is that
[07:13] <ryan_> ubuntu hardy 8.04
[07:14] <wbmj> ankit : if you open Preferred Applications ... select custom and change the command to firefox-2 it will be the default
[07:14] <bazhang> oh the theme
[07:14] <ankit_> amenado: I tried a update-alternatives firefox and it said no alternatives
[07:14] <ankit_> amenado: wbmj's solution is much easier and better.
[07:14] <ankit_> wbmj: good point, thanks.
[07:15] <wbmj> ankit_;Np
[07:15] <kiosk_> M IRC
[07:15] <amenado> ankit_-> i think its because you didnt configure it right and not pointing to the correct symlink..seems all this update-alternative is managing the symlinks..
[07:15] <ua_> how to get the package lists offline
[07:16] <Brome> Hello. I get the package management error "E: dpkg was interruped, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" However, when I do that I get "too man errors, stopping. dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:252:process_queue: Assertion '!queuelen' Failed. It encounters lots of kde dependancy problems (kde4 I think). Can anybody help me?
[07:16] <cool> HI  HOW CAN  I SETUP WEB CAM????
[07:16] <rexus> this synaptic and apt things made my migration from FC6 faster :)
[07:16] <bazhang> !webcams | cool
[07:16] <ankit_> cool: by turning off caps lock, for starters
[07:16] <aaronwi> will ubuntu use all 4 cores in a quad core processor?
[07:16] <ryan_> well anyway it was an ok theme so i will just look for a better 1
[07:16] <ryan_> thanks a bunch tho
[07:16] <bazhang> np
[07:17] <Bubsy> If my tv card doesn't show up in lspci, is it broken?
[07:17] <ankit_> amenado: I installed from the packages, and the symlinks are working
[07:17] <genii> Bubsy: Not if it's for instnce USB
[07:17] <ankit_> amenado: it doesn't matter though, wbmj's way is better anyway
[07:17] <Bubsy> No, genii, it's a pci card
[07:18] <uviek_s> hallo
[07:18] <cool> I HAVE A USB WEB  CAM HOW CAN I SET IT UP???
[07:18] <uviek_s> #jakarta
[07:18] <SNuxoll> !caps | cool
[07:18] <dlozarie> hi all. how do I use the stack functionality of AWN?
[07:19] <bazhang> cool, read the link I gave you
[07:19] <genii> Bubsy: It's conceivable it has some controller which does not appear to the pci bus as a viable device. Some winmodems for instance are like this.
[07:19] <bazhang> cool, and dont use caps
[07:19] <cool> ok
[07:19] <dlozarie> Has anyone else OS X-ified their desktop with instructions from lifehacker.com?
[07:20] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> whats it like?
[07:20] <bazhang> looks like os x
[07:20] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> il check it out
[07:21] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> oh yea
[07:21] <dlozarie> I like it. One question, though: in AWN, there's this stacks thing and it does absolutely nothing. How do I use it?
[07:21] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> does anyone know why ubnutu has issues connecting to windows xop ad-hoc networks?
[07:21] <tv7497> guys during installation of vmware i got this error and the installation aborted any idea what went wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/30818/
[07:21] <dlozarie> Tsukasa, because XP sucks. :D
[07:22] <keri> how  can i make  digikam  the default  camera detection program  instead of fspot. or it is easier to just delete fspot?
[07:23] <tv7497> anyone ??? i contacted #vmware channel they said better u ask in ubuntu  channel
[07:23] <dlozarie> ﻿in AWN, there's this stacks thing and it does absolutely nothing. How do I use it?
[07:23] <Thanatos____> I have hardy with GNOME, is there a package I can install to make it so I have kubuntu? and easily switch back and forth?
[07:25] <dunnen> kubuntu-desktop
[07:25] <cxo> How do i get the Computer, Home and Trash icons on the desktop?
[07:26] <bazhang> Thanatos____, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; change in login window sessions
[07:26] <Thanatos____> cxo Open the places menu, and drag the icon onto the desktop
[07:26] <cool> no did not work  says The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required
[07:26] <icesword> ..
[07:27] <Thanatos____> bazhang, Thanks. I love this community
[07:27] <dunnen> cxo, go to applications/system tools/configuration editor
[07:27] <legend2440> cxo: in terminal    gconf-editor     browse to   /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[07:27] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> does anyone know why my ubuntu hardy cannot connect to a windows ad hoc network (created using ipw) and cannot create an adhoc network, the netowkr card is a ipw3945abg
[07:27] <bazhang> np :)
[07:27] <dunnen> damn legend beat me to it
[07:28] <rexus> guys, while booting, in fedora I can see the services being turned on, is there any way I can do the same in ubuntu?
[07:28] <bazhang> rexus, remove quiet and splash from boot parameters
[07:28] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: I uninstalled the "proprietary drivers" so its running without the 3D fx's. Now, I will check to see if the "blank" bug will happen? It's now a waiting game?
[07:28] <rexus> where can i find the boot parameters?
[07:29] <Bubsy> genii: does that mean the card won't work?
[07:29] <dlozarie> nvm, figured the stacks thing out. one more question: how come my icons are doubled in AWN? like, if i have Filezilla open it shows two filezilla icons even though only one window is really open?
[07:29] <bazhang> Bad_Hacker, good luck; will troubleshoot more if that does not do it
[07:29] <cxo> thanks
[07:29] <genii> Bubsy: I would say so, yes
[07:29] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dlozarie: do you ahve the link to that osX thing u were talkign about earlier?
[07:29] <dlozarie> Tsukasa-Ujiie, hold on a sec.
[07:29] <bazhang> rexus, in grub hit e to edit the kernel you are booting near the bottom of the list
[07:30] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dw found it
[07:30] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: sure thing, also, will be looking for some real good open source drivers not from ati/amd!!!
[07:30] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> thought it wud be in the archives but its still th hompage
[07:30] <sirjoebob> quit
[07:30] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> WOW THAT IS COOO
[07:30] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> cool
[07:30] <rexus> bazhang, it means that I have to restart my laptop?
[07:31] <dlozarie> Tsukasa-Ujiie, it is isn't it? Even the fonts were changed. This is fricking awesome.
[07:31] <bazhang> rexus, to see the setup sequence on boot? do you need to boot to see the boot sequence? is that your question?
[07:31] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dlozarie: was it hard or require many downlaods?
[07:31] <dlozarie> anyway do you guys know exactly why AWN doubles my icons?﻿like, if i have Filezilla open it shows two filezilla icons even though only one window is really open?
[07:32] <sirjoebob> hello all. i am having some wireless problems. i can connect to almost any network just fine but i cant connect to networks with weaker signals. i could when i was running windows and i know the networks are live, just wont connect when signal is weaker. any ideas?
[07:32] <dlozarie> Tsukasa-Ujiie only four dloads, took less than 30 mins to dload all four files. It's a painless job provided you follow the instructions concisely. :D
[07:32] <Flannel> dlozarie: Do you have two ... [these are my active windows] thigns in your dock?
[07:33] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dlozarie: 30 minutes to download? what speed, im going at 7k ='(
[07:33] <abcdunnen> a
[07:33] <dlozarie> Flannel: well for example I have one filezilla window open. Two filezilla icons appear in my dock.
[07:34] <Flannel> dlozarie: Right, thats not what I asked.  In the dock (go to dock config, or whatever) check to see if you have two dock components that are displaying your active window
[07:34] <dlozarie> Tuskasa-Ujiie: just check out the tutorial page, it shouldn't take *too* long. :D
[07:34] <dlozarie> Flannel: oh, sorry. :) okay, thanks.
[07:34] <Flannel> dlozarie: If you open up another app, does it show FZ FZ [other app] [otherapp]? or FZ [otherapp] FZ [otherapp]?
[07:34] <russ> Does anybody know how to get midi files to play on ubuntu?
[07:35] <bazhang> !midi
[07:35] <m0u5e> the m1330's geforce 8400m go is slow when using compiz transformations after a while of idle time, is there a way bump up my default nvidia clock speed?
[07:35] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dlozarie: NO CHANCE IM DOWNLOADING THAT TONIGHT
[07:35] <russ> bazhang thanks I'll check it out
[07:35] <dlozarie> Tsukasa-Ujiie: some other time then. lol :)
[07:35] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dlozarie: ty for showing me, ill try later
[07:35] <dlozarie> Flannel: FZ [otherapp] FZ [otherapp], but I fixed it now. thanks dude! :)
[07:36] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> but still, any one have experience with adhoc in ubuntu?
[07:36] <dlozarie> Tsukasa-Ujiie: NP
[07:37] <Bsims> I run envyng on ubuntu and it broke following the kernel updates how do I fix it
[07:38] <dunnen> just use the old kernel
[07:38] <dunnen> that is the easiest way
[07:38] <Bsims> I suppose
[07:38] <Bsims> but my real annoyance is I shouldn't have to
[07:38] <dunnen> yea i know
[07:38] <dunnen> sorry i can't give a better answer
[07:39]  * Bsims nods thanks anyway
[07:39] <Flannel> Bsims: Envy will do that, thats just the nature of the beast
[07:39] <nickrud> Bsims you need to run envy for each upgrade iirc
[07:39] <Bsims> I ran envy again
[07:40] <Bsims> it said I already had the latest
[07:40] <cool> no  cant get cam 2 work
[07:40] <legend2440> m0u5e: check out   nvclock and   nvclock-gtk   in synaptic       Allows you to overclock your nVidia card under GNU/Linux
[07:40] <dlc> does ubuntu amd raid
[07:40] <m0u5e> legend2440: it wont let me set the speedstep clock freqs though, compiz is fast once my gpu has moved out of its idle state, but waking up is painful
[07:42] <cool> any thing like wine and free that works  better thane wine
[07:42] <nickrud> cool virtualbox or vmware, if you have xp to install in it
[07:43] <cool> no on linux
[07:44] <cool> any thing that fix borken cam   my  cam  wors on  wiin need it to work on linux
[07:45] <giacomo> where do i add simple scripts that i'd like to run from the terminal without typing the path to out?
[07:45] <Flannel> giacomo: ~/bin
[07:46] <genii> Flannel: Hehe nice answer
[07:46] <Flannel> genii: its true
[07:46] <genii> Flannel: Local bin, yup
[07:46] <kuber_> can anyone help me
[07:46] <tv7497> guys little bit help i tried to install vmware it gets aborted http://paste.ubuntu.com/30825/ :)
[07:46] <kuber_> i am a new user for ubuntu
[07:46] <Flannel> !ask | kuber_
[07:46] <bazhang> kuber_, need a question
[07:46] <R0b0t1> What is the console command to view a PDF file? (Much like type 'totem FILE' plays a file in totem)
[07:47] <kuber_> how can i install updates to ubuntu 5
[07:47] <kuber_> can anyone suggest ne
[07:47] <tv7497> bazhang: Flannel http://paste.ubuntu.com/30825/  error during installation of vmware little help sir ?
[07:47] <bazhang> kuber_, you cant
[07:47] <kuber_> how can i update ubuntu 5 to latest version
[07:48]  * Bsims smiles solved my own problem
[07:48] <bazhang> kuber_, fresh install
[07:48] <bazhang> Bsims, how
[07:48] <R0b0t1> What is the console command to view a PDF file? (Much like type 'totem FILE' plays a file in totem)
[07:48] <ankit_> kuber_: fresh install is definitely the easiest way.
[07:48] <Bsims> bazhang: I had forced the newest nvidia drives
[07:48] <arrenlex> R0b0t1: On gnome, "evince"
[07:48] <Bsims> I let it pick the older ones in envy and it worked
[07:48] <bazhang> Bsims, thanks
[07:48] <kuber_> ya i have already installed 5.... version and i need latest version to install in already installed computer
[07:48] <giacomo> i keep getting "error while loading shared libraries: libssh.so"  is it missing?  where should it be?
[07:48] <dorian> hey, does anyone in here know offhand about PAM/LDAP? specifically what happened to /etc/libnss-ldap.conf and /etc/pam_ldap.conf?
[07:49] <Flannel> tv7497: I have no idea when it comes to vmware.  You might try #vmware, they may be able to help.
[07:49] <arrenlex> Whoops, left rich formatting on, sorry everyone >_<
[07:49] <Bsims> bazhang: and to prove it 2.6.24-20-generic and nvidia version 173.14.09
[07:49] <kuber_> how to download and install latest version?
[07:49] <Flannel> kuber_: You can download 8.04 and then burn it with 5.x
[07:49] <Bsims> kuber_: the version you have is too old to upgrade
[07:49] <kuber_> now i have broadband internet connection
[07:49] <Flannel> kuber_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation follow the "standard installation" steps at the top of that page
[07:49] <k1gwb> Has anyone else had a problem in 8.04 with firefox 3.0 (but not 2.0) working fine for about 20-30 mins then having to be restarted or else it just sits there trying to load forever?
[07:50] <russ> R0b0t1 in general you can type "apropos pdf" to find things related to pdf - try ghostview
[07:50] <R0b0t1> Someone told me, but thank you.
[07:50] <R0b0t1> 'evince'
[07:50] <Bsims> russ: man -k does the same thing and is easier to type <g>
[07:50] <Flannel> Bsims: thats not true, it'd just be easier for him to reinstall than upgrade a few times.
[07:50] <kuber_> cant i download through internet and install it
[07:50] <tanju> you should
[07:50] <Flannel> kuber_: Yes, thats what that page walks you through doing.
[07:50] <Bsims> Flannel: Hrm I didnt think upgrading more than a one release was considered smart
[07:51] <Bsims> Wasn't on Debian
[07:51] <arrenlex> giacomo: I don't even have libssh.so on my system, I have libssh2.so. What software are you trying to run\how old is it?
[07:51] <russ> Bsims learn something every day ...
[07:51] <Flannel> Bsims: You can't upgrade more than one release at a time.  But you upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10, to 6.06, to 8.04 (or 5.10 to 6.06 to 8.04, if he's on 5.10 currently)
[07:51]  * Bsims nods true enough
[07:52] <phichidev> hi
[07:52] <kuber_> sir, in my computer ubuntu 5.10 mysql is also not installed
[07:52] <kuber_> how to installed it
[07:52] <kuber_> please suggest
[07:52] <Bsims> russ: Get screen if you spend a lot of time in a terminal
[07:52] <tv7497> Flannel: k sir will ask them again they said to go to ubuntu channel  last time
[07:52] <Bsims> kuber_: open synaptic
[07:52] <Flannel> kuber_: You'll be able to install it once you upgrade.
[07:52] <giacomo> arrenlex: i have libssh.so in my /usr/lib
[07:52] <simi> hi, i compiled my own kernel(build my drivers and other required module into kernel), i tried 3 difrent .configure (in some i do not disable any modules) Problem is that i do not have sound or network driver
[07:52] <giacomo> im looking into why it's giving me trouble
[07:52] <kuber_> from where to open synaptic
[07:53] <kuber_> i am a new for this opearing system
[07:53] <Bsims> add programs
[07:53] <simi> i need help to diagnostic my problem
[07:53] <Flannel> kuber_: don't worry about synaptic, worry about upgrading first.  Synaptic won't work, and it won't matter after you reinstall either.
[07:53] <arrenlex> giacomo: Do you? Where did it come from? What does "dpkg -S libssh.so" say?
[07:53] <Flannel> Bsims: Repos for EOL versions aren't around anymore.
[07:53] <arrenlex> giacomo: What does "file /usr/lib/libssh.so" say?
[07:53] <Bsims> I don't think the version you want is packaged for your release
[07:53] <Bsims> Ah
[07:53] <kuber_> oh!
[07:53] <Flannel> kuber_: Upgrade first, then worry about mysql
[07:53] <kuber_> then my first step is to update the version of ubuntu
[07:53] <kuber_> its ok
[07:53]  * Bsims nods
[07:53] <Flannel> kuber_: yep
[07:54] <kuber_> sir i didnt have the update cd
[07:54] <simi> anyone compiled  a custom kernel here?
[07:54] <Flannel> kuber_: Do you have a blank CD?
[07:54] <cordoban> #ubuntu-gr
[07:54] <arrenlex> simi: I have, what's your question?
[07:54] <kuber_> is it available in nepal
[07:54] <kuber_> ya
[07:54] <simi> hi, i compiled my own kernel(build my drivers and other required module into kernel), i tried 3 difrent .configure (in some i do not disable any modules) Problem is that i do not have sound or network driver
[07:54] <giacomo> arrenlex: it says: "broken sybolic link to 'usr/local/lib/libssh.so'
[07:54] <Flannel> kuber_: It is. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[07:54] <Bsims> Flannel: ya ever use screen?
[07:55] <Flannel> Bsims: I'm using it right now.
[07:55] <arrenlex> giacomo: So in other words, you tried to install it manually, and you didn't do it right. :)
[07:55] <Bsims> Flannel: http://home.insightbb.com/~bmsims1/Scripts/Screenrc.html
[07:55] <Bsims> Take a look at my screenrc and see if you like it
[07:55] <giacomo> arrenlex: i failed?!?!?!
[07:55] <Flannel> Bsims: (old archives are technically still around, just moved to a single server for archival purposes)
[07:55] <kuber_> which version i have to download sir?>
[07:55]  * Bsims nods noted
[07:55] <arrenlex> giacomo: Well, your symlink is broken, that doesn't sound like success to me.
[07:55] <kuber_> desktop edition or server edition?
[07:55] <Flannel> kuber_: desktop
[07:55] <Bsims> desktop will work
[07:56] <cwillu> giacomo, it looks like you tried to install it by hand (not via apt or synaptic), or build it from source
[07:56] <kuber_> ok
[07:56]  * Bsims grrs and considers filing a minor bug about nvidia-settings... should ask for sudo password 
[07:56] <cwillu> simi, did you do make oldconfig?
[07:57] <giacomo> well how might i be able to install this libssh.so without so much failure?
[07:57] <cwillu> Bsims, you can just run it with a parameter in your login script, and it'll work without modifying xorg
[07:57] <kuber_> oh its too large
[07:57] <kuber_> in size
[07:57] <arrenlex> giacomo: First of all, what software do you need it for? Secondly, what does "file /usr/local/lib/libssh.so" say/
[07:58] <cwillu> giacomo, what do you need it for?
[07:58] <simi> cwillu: yes, i do that one time, other time configured manualy the .config because the menu config  saved a file with fewer lines
[07:58] <giacomo> ahhh, it can't open it... (no such file or directory)
[07:59] <arrenlex> giacomo: What software do you need it for?
[07:59] <cwillu> simi, which kernel are you compiling?  (and as long as I'm asking, why are you compiling a kernel?)
[07:59] <kuber_> sir i think canonical provides free cd
[07:59] <simi> cwillu: can you tell me what logs should i look in , what coomands to do to find out what could be the problem
[07:59] <kuber_> can i get that latest ubunt from their?
[07:59] <Bsims> cwillu: its not even that, its editing a menu item
[07:59] <ujos> hello
[07:59] <bazhang> kuber_, yes from shipit
[07:59] <cwillu> giacomo, libssh2 is probably the package you need
[07:59] <simi> cwillu: the 2.6.24 from hard repos
[07:59] <arrenlex> !hu | ujos
[08:00] <arrenlex> !hi | ujos
[08:00] <arrenlex> lol
[08:00] <Bsims> kuber_: Yess adn they will mail it to you free of charge
[08:00] <kuber_> please provide their url
[08:00] <kuber_> so that i can order
[08:00] <giacomo> arrenlex: i was messing around with hydra,
[08:00] <Flannel> !np | kuber_
[08:00] <Ben-G-> Man Ubuntu/Linux is OWNAGE //sry for spam ^^
[08:00] <Bsims> kuber_: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[08:00] <Flannel> kuber_: You might ask the nepali Loco team, they might be able to get you one sooner.
[08:00] <cwillu> giacomo, if you're trying to compile a package that's not in the repositories, try to install all of its dependencies via synaptic as much as possible
[08:01] <cwillu> giacomo, so for instance, if it needs libssh2, then you'd search for that in synaptic, and install any -dev packages you find
[08:01] <kuber_> thanks for your help
[08:01] <cwillu> giacomo, libssh2-1-dev and libssh-2-dev, in this case
[08:01] <giacomo> cwillu: one of hydra's dependencies is libssh v0.11
[08:01] <simi> cwillu: i compile a kernel to build my driver in to increase the performance
[08:01] <giacomo> i think i have those installed already cwillu
[08:01] <cwillu> giacomo, .11 exactly, or just that or better?
[08:02] <giacomo> exactly cwillu
[08:02] <cwillu> which?
[08:02] <Bsims> giacomo: also apt-get install checkinstall
[08:02] <giacomo> v0.11
[08:02] <russ> bazhang timidity works just fine thanks
[08:02] <cwillu> simi, where did you get the idea that compiling your own kernel would increase performance?
[08:02] <Bsims> giacomo: it will make you a deb
[08:02] <cwillu> simi, i.e., are you adding any patches?
[08:02] <giacomo> bsims, i've already run make install, will it matter at this point?
[08:02] <bazhang> np
[08:02] <cwillu> Bsims, giacomo, try to stay away from checkinstall, it's deprecated as far as I know
[08:03] <Bsims> giacomo: Hrm might
[08:03] <cwillu> giacomo, do you know that it won't work with libssh2-1-dev?
[08:03] <TAT> HAY CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT
[08:03] <giacomo> i dont think so... i just need the libssh.so... i guess i could just download it and put it in the right place
[08:03] <simi> cwillu: i do not add patches just my drivers like scsi acpi  VFAT, FUSE i build them into the kernel,
[08:03] <Bsims> in fact probly giacomo
[08:03] <TAT> sorry about the caps
[08:03] <bazhang> TAT, no caps
[08:03] <Bsims> giacomo: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make
[08:03] <bazhang> TAT, need a question
[08:03] <simi> cwillu: maybe i should seitch to gentoo
[08:03] <aaa> 我靠 不会全是老外把 没人会说中文
[08:03] <cwillu> simi, there's no practical difference between the performance of using modules vs the performance of compiling them straight in,
[08:04] <bazhang> !cn | aaa
[08:04] <giacomo> cwillu: i KNOW that it needs libssh v0.11
[08:04] <Bsims> giacomo: and then run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[08:04] <cwillu> simi, except that when you compile them in, you're forced to use that memory, which may be a waste in many many cases
[08:04] <aaa> 33ks
[08:04] <bazhang> np
[08:04] <tv7497> bazhang: my server is broken :'(
[08:04] <simi> cwillu: but at boot speed? that modules are loaded at boot speed, and it must be some slight performance if i optimize the kernel for my intel pentium cpu
[08:05] <Bsims> giacomo: try make uninstall and then follow the instructions in the link I sent you
[08:05] <cwillu> simi, not really, no
[08:05] <cwillu> simi, the generic kernel already has pentium optimizations in
[08:05] <bazhang> TAT, ask questions in channel not in PM; that way others can help too
[08:05] <TAT> is there any other salutions besides vmware
[08:06] <cwillu> and at boot speed, there's at most a second or two's difference in not using an initrd (which you'll probably still be using, to support any other hardware you may add)
[08:06] <TAT> it says it wont work on my system
[08:06] <bazhang> !vm | TAT
[08:06] <Muntrue> Good morning
[08:06] <arrenlex> simi: lol, are you trying to make your system faster by recompiling your kernel? Honestly, it's the gentoo condradiction... any microscopic gains in performance will be cancelled out a hundred times by the hour you spend compiling it. The kernel is already very optimised; don't bother, it doesn't help.
[08:06] <Muntrue> Anyone know of a way to change application titles ?
[08:06] <simi> cwillu:  from the .config of the generic kernel it is not optimized for pentium
[08:06] <cwillu> simi, ubuntu's -generic kernel is, yes
[08:07] <sirex> when a game such as enemy territory crashes (or in m case, trys a res you dont have) and you kill the process, you lose control of your mouse. is there a command you can do to regain control of it ?
[08:07] <TAT> were do i go about geting kqem and the others is it on the ubuntu web site or shall i google it
[08:07] <PucKid> good morning (:
[08:07] <Bsims> sirex: ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X... thats kind of a crude way to do it though
[08:07] <arrenlex> !kqemu | TAT
[08:07] <sirex> yea, that's what im doing at the moment, but it is a bit, erm, crude.
[08:07] <cwillu> sirex, Bsims there's a command you can turn on to force ungrab (ctrl+alt+* or something)
[08:08] <cwillu> there's probably a util to do it too, although I can't recall the name right now
[08:08] <ffiarpg> I am currently trying to get my Tablet PC functions working properly in Linux to take notes in college. I use a Gateway E-295C (C-140x) Tablet PC and I am currently running Ubuntu 8.04. I have tried a few things from several tutorials on line without any luck. If anyone has any experience with this I would greatly appreciate it as it is the only reason I still require Vista.
[08:08] <Bsims> hrm dunno
[08:08]  * Bsims is off for a bit
[08:08] <TAT> is it an installer perhaps not to good with this terminal stuff atm..
[08:08] <Muntrue> Anyone know of a way to change application titles ?
[08:09] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: I run linux successfully on my tablet; I had to mess with xorg.conf a while to do it though.
[08:09] <Lvl21nerd> someone help me out with Teamspeak on ubuntu 8.04?
[08:09] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: Do you have any experience\familiarity with the xorg.conf file?
[08:09] <sirex> ok ill crash it now and stab buttons see what works
[08:10] <ffiarpg> arrenlex I have tried adding a few entries, Input Devices, and a few things to the server layout section as well
[08:10] <simi> is mysql requird in kubuntu? who uses it? can i stop it to start or remove it?
[08:10] <Kitu> normally yes simi
[08:10] <cwillu> giacomo, hydra-5.4?
[08:11] <tv7497> guys me using a lamp home server for 2 and a half month nothing went wrong in this period for past few days nothing seems to work i thought must be with DYDNS but even http://ip address is not working really need help guys plz help if it works kindly info me http://tv.kicks-ass.org/tv  or http://122.167.101.67/tv
[08:11] <anparks> how can i turn off my monitor from the terminal?
[08:11] <cwillu> anparks, man vbetool
[08:11] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: This is the xorg.conf file that works for me... I think you only care about the stuff after DRI mode 0666. Let me know if you need some more help. http://arrenlex.ls.la/xorg.conf
[08:11] <ffiarpg> arrenlex one guide suggested i add one for stylus, eraser, and one other that i forget atm, another guide says that 8.04 only requires the stylus entry, one guide says that the device is /dev/input/wacom, another says it is dev/SS04 or something, i can check bookmarks if need be.
[08:11] <cwillu> anparks, and DISPLAY=:0 xset, man xset
[08:11] <Muntrue> Anyone know of a way to change application titles ?
[08:11] <ffiarpg> arrenlex ill give that a quick look thanks for uploading it
[08:12] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: Actually that page doesn't load for me, does it load for you?
[08:12] <ffiarpg> arrenlex it doesnt :P
[08:12] <Kitu> tv7497,  only http://ip works ?
[08:12] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: http://pastebin.ca/1084126
[08:12] <ffiarpg> arrenlex what brand of tablet pc do you use? does it use a wacom Penabled pen? Did you have to install wacom-tools
[08:13] <sirex> i've tried ctrl-alt- and everykey on the keyboard. nothign got mouse back
[08:13] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: It's a toshiba r20. Yes, the pen is wacom. I had to install\upgrade wacom-tools to get pen rotation working.
[08:13] <giacomo> cwillu: c
[08:13] <Kitu> tv7497, you don't have domain name ?
[08:13] <ffiarpg> arrenlex did you have to install or update anything to get simple cursor movement working or only xorg.conf editing?
[08:13] <tv7497> Kitu: http://122.167.101.67  what i didnt get you i hand a domain name in dydns
[08:14] <Kitu> i must understand bad
[08:14] <tv7497> had*
[08:14] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: It was a while ago but I think it was only xorg.conf.
[08:14] <d343k> hey can anyone help me with grub images
[08:14] <Kitu> hum
[08:14] <Imaginal> I have VMware server on 8.04, but can't get internet on the virtual machine (host has wireless). Will someone walk me through this?
[08:14] <d343k> it wont read the file i got loaded on there
[08:14] <d343k> and it is a jpeg
[08:15] <Kitu> tv7497, you can ping this ip ?
[08:15] <d343k> [Kitu PING reply]: 1sec
[08:15] <tv7497> Kitu: karthik@karthik-desktop:~$ ping tv.kicks-ass.org
[08:15] <tv7497> PING tv.kicks-ass.org (122.167.101.67) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:15] <tv7497> 64 bytes from ABTS-KK-Dynamic-067.101.167.122.airtelbroadband.in (122.167.101.67): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.79 ms
[08:16] <coz_> d343k, there is a gui app named startup manager that can help with installing grub images
[08:16] <tv7497> sorry!!!!
[08:16] <Kitu> [09:15:59] <tv7497> PING tv.kicks-ass.org (122.167.101.67) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:16] <d343k> i got that start up manager
[08:16] <d343k> thats where i did it
[08:16] <tv7497> Kitu: does that mean it works
[08:16] <ffiarpg> arrenlex im sorry i dont remember what i did, but i was somehow able to type something in the terminal to see coordinates updated instantly of what my tablet pen was doing, it did not work when i said the pen was "/detv/ttyS0" and yet it did when i said it was "/dev/input/wacom".
[08:16] <d343k> its just not reading that type of file or somthing
[08:16] <giacomo> cwillu: am i crazy?  am i missing something?
[08:17] <ffiarpg> arrenlex do you have any idea what i am talking about from such a poor description? and if so, does that sound normal? i thought it might be useful in troubleshooting my problems
[08:17] <cwillu> giacomo, one sec
[08:17] <coz_> d343k, ah go to gnome-look.org and look under or search for grub  you will find images with the correct extrension and resolution
[08:17] <tv7497> Kitu: does it mean it works ???????
[08:17] <d343k> i looked that the prop and now its saying the type of file is .ink
[08:17] <giacomo> cwillu: oh!  figured it out
[08:17] <prencher> hi, during install ubuntu detected my monitor fine - name and all - including all resolutions.. However after installing the nv drivers that's no longer the case; I've got it booting up at the right resolution, but as soon as i log in it reverts to a lower one and the right one cant be picked in prefs, any thoughts?
[08:17] <sirex> noone knows the key input to regain mouse control on xorg ? google not being very helpful
[08:17] <Kitu> i don't know tv7497, it's probably a shit in hosts conf files ....
[08:17] <keri> hello,  i need help i have a digital camera and on ubuntu i have f-spot and digikam and when i turn camera on it goes to f-spot.  but i would like it to go to digikam   can i get some help
[08:17] <dee> hello
[08:17] <cwillu> giacomo, k :)
[08:18] <giacomo> cwillu: i downloaded libssh-0.2.tgz and it has the right libs to get hydra to work right
[08:18] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: Depends how your tablet is hooked up internally. Mine's over serial so ttyS0 is the right one for me, and that's what's in xorg.conf. I suggest trying both ways. I have never seen /dev/input/wacom before but that doesn't mean anything, there's a lot of things I haven't seen before.
[08:18] <giacomo> cwillu: thanks for the help
[08:18] <Kitu> tv7497, yes the ping works
[08:18] <Kitu> but http
[08:18] <Kitu> on 122.167.101.67
[08:18] <dee> how can i manage it in a bash-script to get "$YEAR_$MONTH" to "2008_08" where YEAR and MONTH has been set before?
[08:18] <Kitu> it doesn't work
[08:18] <Kitu> at least y can't accede it
[08:18] <cwillu> giacomo, one thing I want to point out is that downloading a binary library that a tool of such provenance is rather sketchy from a security standpoint
[08:19] <c0mp13371331337> I'm thinking about getting a low-end fingerprint scanner for my system.  I've currently got my eyes on the APC USB scanner.  Does anyone have any experience with this or fingerprint scanners in general?  Trying to get a feel for how well they're supported at this point.  Pros?  Cons?  Caveats?
[08:19] <arrenlex> dee_: Do you want to put 2008_08 into another variable? Print it on the command line? What?
[08:19] <dee> arrenlex: use it for some other file operations like sed, cp, etc.
[08:19] <giacomo> cwillu: hmmm, you mean as it's outdated and may have security holes or something?
[08:19] <sirex> c0mp13371331337, yea, overall, their rubbish.
[08:20] <cwillu> giacomo, no, more that it could include backdoors
[08:20] <Kitu> tv7497, or maybe an iptables tule on your local system, at least if http server work on 122.167.101.67
[08:20] <cwillu> if it's on the path, it might get picked up by other applications
[08:20] <c0mp13371331337> sirex: That bad, eh?
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> c0mp13371331337: the one on my laptop works great, but I haven't figured out how to store more than one fingerprint yet.
[08:20] <Kitu> rule*
[08:20] <dee> arrenlex: the problem is the underscore. It's recognied as part of YEAR.
[08:20] <tv7497> Kitu: you mean http://ip adress works ?
[08:20] <arrenlex> dee: This worked for me: MY="${MONTH}_${YEAR}"
[08:20] <giacomo> cwillu: i see
[08:20] <Kitu> yes tv7497
[08:20] <dee> ah, some brackets... I will test it, thanks.
[08:20] <c0mp13371331337> fyrestrtr: So basically only one user can ever be authenticated by fingerprint on the system?
[08:20] <giacomo> cwillu: would it be better not to mess with it?
[08:20] <Kitu> it's the reale ip 122.167.101.67 ?
[08:21] <ffiarpg> arrenlex: what do the lines "Section "DRI"         Mode    0666 EndSection" do?
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> c0mp13371331337: no, you can have multiple users, but only one digit per user afaik
[08:21] <dee> arrenlex: work's fine. Thanks! :)
[08:21] <cwillu> giacomo, there are other tools available, but I'd definately try to stick to trustable sources, or else keep that binary contained on a seperate machine
[08:21] <tv7497> Kitu: thank god i need to screw those dydns guys
[08:21] <cwillu> (vm, or whatever)
[08:22] <Scorp_> I need help regarding CGI Scripts on Ubuntu. My router uses .cgi files which dont run on Firefox and Opera both. What should i do ??
[08:22] <sirex> arg.... gimmi my mouse back xorg, or i'll slay you with the backspace !
[08:22] <cwillu> sirex, eh?
[08:23] <c0mp13371331337> fyrestrtr: I see, gotcha.  How well does it integrate into the system?  For example, is it just GDM and perhaps some gnome-keyring type things?  Or can it also cover sudo commands, firefox master password (or individual sites...) and the like?
[08:23] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: I don't know, actually. DRI is the direct rendering infrastructure, i.e. it's the magical layer that lets graphics be accelerated by the graphics card and not drawn in slow software. Mode 666 looks like a permissions mask but I don't know what one would be doing here... as a permissions it means read\write but no execute to everyone.
[08:23] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: Google I guess.
[08:23] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: In any case, it's definitely not tablet related, it's 3d accel related.
[08:23] <narothepharoh> #pokerth
[08:23] <cwillu> arrenlex, ffiarpg, dri creates a device accessible in /dev.  Those are the permissions set on that device
[08:23] <Kitu> tv7497, it's not dyNdns ?
[08:23] <cwillu> aka, who can mess with dri
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> c0mp13371331337: it covers sudo and login, but not the screensaver.
[08:24] <cwillu> (regardless of access to the server, iirc)
[08:24] <arrenlex> cwillu: Thanks, that's useful to know... so I was close to right :D
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> c0mp13371331337: your prompt changes to 'Password or swipe finger:'
[08:24] <sirex> be back, gonna kill xorg. ;-(
[08:24] <ffiarpg> arrenlex: alright thanks, ill go ahead and leave that out then as my dedicated ati graphics are working perfectly, thanks again for uploading your xorg.conf file
[08:24] <giacomo> oh hey, while im here, i've got some questions about port forwarding...
[08:24] <cwillu> sirex, man xorg, search for allowclosedowngrabs (/ to search)
[08:25] <Scorp_> I need help regarding CGI Scripts on Ubuntu. My router uses .cgi files which dont run on Firefox and Opera both. What should i do ??
[08:25] <Kitu> tv7497, in fact i understand your problem now
[08:25] <cwillu> Scorp_, cgi where?
[08:25] <c0mp13371331337> fyrestrtr: X-) Ouch, screensaver + locked screen is my main security protocol.  I suppose I'll hold off, let the support ripen a bit.  Many thanks!
[08:25] <tv7497> Kitu: eh???
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> Scorp_: this is not a problem that Ubuntu can fix.
[08:25] <cwillu> Scorp_, cgi's are run on the server, firefox/opera only ever see the output of that (which is just like any other webpage)
[08:25] <Kitu> tv7497,  you must install dns server to connect you on http://ip from internet
[08:25] <OldSage> Hey I have a question...
[08:25] <Kitu> only from internet tv7497
[08:26] <Kitu> in LAN it work on ip
[08:26] <cwillu> Scorp_, if your router (dlink, linksys, whatever?) doesn't work under firefox/opera, then it's broken
[08:26] <Scorp_> cwillu: The linksys router uses setup.cgi files which dont work on both firefox and opera. They run normally even on a PDA and other windows laptops
[08:26] <OldSage> Is there any advantage to using the 64bit version over the 32 version of Ubuntu?
[08:26] <giacomo> i use portforwarding for bittorrent, but whenever i use bittorrent, it kills all http traffic on my network... i can still use some internet things such as pidgin, but i can't browse websites and neither can anyone on my network
[08:26] <giacomo> am i doing it wrong?
[08:26] <cwillu> Scorp_, in some cases, you can tell firefox/opera to pretend to be internet explorer, which solves some of those problems (broken websites)
[08:26] <keri> hello i would like some help,   i have digital camera and i have f-spot and digikam on here and f-spot is where my pictures goes to and i would like them to go to digikam how can i do this?
[08:26] <Scorp_> cwillu: how do i do that ???
[08:27] <cwillu> Scorp_, otherwise, it's possible to install internetexplorer via wine, although that's not really supported.  But seriously, your router's design is broken, and it'd be best to not give the manufacturer any more money in the future
[08:27] <arrenlex> OldSage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit#Pros_and_cons
[08:27] <cwillu> there's no reason in this day and age to make a consumer router that doesn't work with firefox
[08:27] <OldSage> thanks
[08:27] <c0mp13371331337> OldSage: 64 will run much better on a 64bit processor, but 64bit application support is a bit lacking (but getting there....)  You'll need 64 if you want to run any more than 4GB (3.2GB, actually) of RAM.
[08:27] <cwillu> Scorp_, having said all that, what brand and model of router?
[08:27] <Scorp_> cwillu: Linksys is supposed to be the biggest designer of router world over. Its design wont possibly be broken.
[08:28] <arrenlex> OldSage: The short answer is, "not enough that the compatibility problems won't be much worse than the tiny performance gains"
[08:28] <tv7497> Kitu: i asked them how but they said opt for any DNS service provider
[08:28] <cwillu> Scorp_, is it a linksys?
[08:28] <Scorp_> cwillu: Yea... Linksys WAG200G
[08:28] <arrenlex> c0mp13371331337: Why would 64-bit run much better than 32-bit on a 64-bit processor?
[08:28] <Amun> hrmm
[08:28] <cwillu> Scorp_, and if it works in ie, and doesn't in ff, it's broken
[08:28] <Amun> recompiling the kernel sucks. too many options.
[08:28] <arrenlex> c0mp13371331337: Additionally, the -server kernel supports 4GB of ram, in 32-bit mode.
[08:28] <Scorp_> cwillu: it works well with firefox on windows OS..
[08:28] <Scorp_> :(
[08:28] <cwillu> one sec
[08:29] <Kitu> tv7497, i don't know
[08:29] <cwillu> linksys is usually pretty good about this stuff (the wrt54g actually ran linux for a long time, and you can still buy models that support it)
[08:30] <cwillu> Scorp_, what error do you see?
[08:30] <Kitu> tv7497, in reading RFC DNS maybe
[08:30] <Scorp_> cwillu: wrt54g is the base model of this one...
[08:30] <keri> hello i would like some help,   i have digital camera and i have f-spot and digikam on here and f-spot is where my pictures goes to and i would like them to go to digikam how can i do this
[08:30] <Scorp_> cwillu: there's no error... when i enter the username and password, the page shows its loading, but doesnt. It actually should forward to another page, which doesnt happen..
[08:30] <cwillu> Scorp_, wag200g is the adsl model one, right?
[08:30] <tv7497> kiokie thanx for your time sir :)
[08:30] <Scorp_> cwillu: yeah...
[08:30] <c0mp13371331337> arrenlex: The 64bit version is made to take advantage of a 64bit processor, so it would stand to reason that it would run better than the 32bit version on the same processor.
[08:31] <cwillu> okay, it's not really related to the wrt54g
[08:31] <Kitu> tv7497, sorry i'm a stupid french beginner who believe know all
[08:31] <Kitu> :)
[08:31] <OldSage> So basically, unless I have a pressing need to go to 64Bit... its not worth the trouble eh?
[08:31] <cwillu> Scorp_, it prompts for a password, right?
[08:31] <Scorp_> cwillu: i had the wrt54g earlier, but just to remove the dsl modem i bought this one..
[08:31] <Scorp_> cwillu: yes, it prompts for that
[08:32] <Scorp_> but after that it doesnt load the next page... which is setup.htm, after setup.cgi..
[08:32] <arrenlex> c0mp13371331337: 64-bit isn't like another core, it doesn't offer direct performance advantages. Some programs can benefit from being able to do math in 64 bit of precision, but these are specially designed high performance apps that have to be tuned for it. Other than that, all you'll notice is crushing incompaibilities with 32-bit only software, and bigger binaries due to swollen pointers.
[08:32] <Scorp_> cwillu: the setup.cgi script is to load setup.htm page with the required inputs i guess... that doesnt happen..
[08:33] <cwillu> Scorp_, setup.cgi is what you get redirected to when you go directly to http://192.168.1.1/?
[08:33] <cwillu> (or whichever the ip is)
[08:33] <Scorp_> cwillu: yeah...
[08:33] <cwillu> odd that it redirects you immediately
[08:34] <OldSage> Well I guess that answers that
[08:34] <OldSage> Thanks for the help
[08:35] <vipaca> Im so tired of the default terminals in gnome does anyone have a suggestion?
[08:35] <Muntrue> Hello, i downloaded firefox-3.0 from the backports. its working great so-far but im wondering how i can enable the firefox-mplayer plugin for firefox-3.0. Anyone knows ?
[08:35] <cwillu> Scorp_, what happens if you just go to http://192.168.1.1/setup.htm directly?
[08:36] <Scorp_> that page opens, but it doesnt have the right field values cuz those arent supplied by the CGI page..
[08:36] <Scorp_> cwillu: that page opens, but it doesnt have the right field values cuz those arent supplied by the CGI page.. So the fields are there but blank.
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> Scorp_: this is not a problem that you can solve from Ubuntu. Its a problem with your router.
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> vipaca: rxvt
[08:39] <keri> hello    i would like to know how to make digikam my default where my pciture goes from my camera.  they go to f-spot no
[08:39] <lari> I need help
[08:40] <lari> When i start the a song says me :  failed to connect stream : invalid argument
[08:40] <cwillu> Scorp_, http://www.linksysinfo.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55250
[08:41] <lari> What i have to do?
[08:41] <keri> can i get a little help please
[08:42] <cwillu> fyrestrtr, if Scorp_ comes back (and you notice him), can you tell him to access the router via https, and it should start working?
[08:42] <jdbart> is there a way to make my laptop moniter not come on when it's closed and i push the multimedia buttons on the front?
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> cwillu: ok
[08:43] <cwillu> keri, System | Preferences | Removable Drives and Media
[08:46] <g00se> Is there a floppy disc installer like for Debian?
[08:46] <keri> import and only says f-spot and when i hit browse it dont show digikam
[08:47] <Sam__> g00se: no, but you can try the netinstall usb image
[08:47] <cwillu> keri, just type digikam
[08:47] <cwillu> I believe
[08:47] <cwillu> keri, give me one sec, might have a better answer though
[08:48] <keri> ok ty
[08:48] <cwillu> keri, go to places | home, and then go to Edit | Preferences | Media (tab), and tell me, do you see anything under Photos?
[08:48] <cwillu> keri, if it's not greyed out, then select something there, and then disable the import on the other thing
[08:48] <dlozarie> hi, it's me again. I'm trying to add a launcher for firefox in AWN, and it's asking for a command for firefox. I type in 'firefox' right? :)
[08:49] <muntrue_> Hi, i have installed firefox-3.0 from the backports. Now im wondering how to enable the mplayer plugin for it. Anyone that can help ?
[08:49] <g00se> Sam__: Pity. Thanks
[08:49] <cwillu> muntrue_, probably need to see if the backports have a backported version of it
[08:49] <cwillu> muntrue_, which version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:49] <muntrue_> cwillu, 7.10 I checked the backports for mplayer plugin for 3.0 but no luck
[08:50] <g00se> Sam__: Is there no USB installer per se - i.e. one that can be used outside netboot?
[08:50] <keri> cwillu: it says open f=spot manger
[08:50] <unop> !info mozilla-mplayer | Muntrue
[08:50] <cwillu> g00se, you can covert a livecd to a liveusb
[08:50] <cwillu> keri, well, that was useless :p
[08:50] <cwillu> one more sec :p
[08:50] <g00se> cwillu: is it small enough?
[08:51] <keri> cwillu: ok
[08:51] <cwillu> g00se, how small of a usb drive do you have?
[08:51] <g00se> cwillu: 1GB
[08:51] <cwillu> don't think you can even buy them smaller than 1gig anymore
[08:51] <cwillu> g00se, well, a cd is 650-700mb, so there's the answer :p
[08:51] <cwillu> there's a guide on ubuntu's wiki, don't have the link right now
[08:51] <g00se> cwillu: Doh ;-)
[08:52] <cwillu> g00se, I think it's under the eeepc install guide though (it uses a usb keydrive to install because it doesn't have a cd drive)
[08:52] <dlozarie> ﻿hi, it's me again. I'm trying to add a launcher for firefox in AWN, and it's asking for a command for firefox. I type in 'firefox' right? :)
[08:52] <hajiki> hey guys how come ubuntuforums.org looks so ugly in firefox?? how can i fix it??
[08:52] <g00se> cwillu: Makes sense
[08:52] <cwillu> g00se, ...which will work fine, as there's nothing eeepc specific until ubuntu is actually installed
[08:52] <unop> dlozarie, yes
[08:52] <hajiki> here have a look: http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=45090_lol_123_337lo.jpg
[08:52] <arrenlex> g00se: There's a windows-based installer, does that help at all?
[08:52] <cwillu> keri, just working on figuring out how it knows that fspot is a photo app
[08:53] <dlozarie> unop, thanks.
[08:53] <cwillu> I didn't even have fspot installed anymore, so this is taking a few moments :p
[08:53] <arrenlex> Hajiki: I don't think ubuntuforums.org supports firefox, I think it's an ie only site.
[08:53] <g00se> arrenlex: No, thanks. I've got Etch on one disk right now. Just about to install 2nd HD. No CD
[08:53] <arrenlex> Hajiki: ( = p )
[08:53] <keri> cwillu: when i turned my camera on it went to digikam just nothing happen
[08:53] <cwillu> hajiki, can you post a screenshot to photobucket or something?
[08:54] <arrenlex> g00se: Mmm... you could netboot.
[08:54] <arrenlex> cwillu: He did: http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=45090_lol_123_337lo.jpg
[08:54] <hajiki> http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=45090_lol_123_337lo.jpg
[08:54] <arvind_khadri> arrenlex, sites arent browser specific
[08:54] <g00se> arrenlex: Messy
[08:54] <hajiki> arrenlex: that was a bad joke
[08:54] <cwillu> missed it :p
[08:54] <arrenlex> arvind_khadri: what do you mean, sites aren't browser specific?
[08:55] <muntrue_> cwillu, Fixed, i had to make a link between firefox 2 plugins and firefox 3 plugins
[08:55] <cwillu> hajiki, do you have user-agent-switcher installed? or some equivalent plugin?
[08:56] <arvind_khadri> arrenlex, you said ubuntuforums arent supported by FF ... i use to see them of FF
[08:56] <hajiki> mmm let me check
[08:56] <g00se> I've got an Etch floppy installer - wonder if i can hack it?
[08:56] <cwillu> arvind_khadri, he was joking
[08:57] <hajiki> cwillu: nope, i dont have user-agent-switcher
[08:57] <cwillu> hajiki, for what it's worth, it shows up fine on my machine
[08:57] <genii> g00se: Just use it then go to debbootstrap way onto hd specifying ubuntu and not debian etch
[08:57] <arrenlex> Hajiki: What does the last field on this page say? http://www.thismachine.info/
[08:57] <arvind_khadri> cwillu, oh ok ... i just entered and saw that...
[08:57] <cwillu> hajiki, can you try opening up firefox in safe-mode, and see if it's still messed up?
[08:57]  * arvind_khadri is sorry
[08:57]  * cwillu pokes arvind_khadri with a stick
[08:58] <hajiki> arrenlex: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008071719 Firefox/2.0.0.1 MEGAUPLOAD 1.0
[08:58]  * arvind_khadri grins :D
[08:58] <dlozarie> how come the firefox launcher I added in AWN manager doesn't show up in the dock?
[08:58] <genii> g00se: Or better since you have a running linux box do it from the Etch you have already there
[08:58] <g00se> genii: Thanks - i'll look into that
[08:59] <cwillu> keri, hold on, I'm making progress :p
[08:59] <preben_> hi! How do I turn off that f-spot is opened when I connect a camera in XFCE. I got a dialog and misunderstood it so now it opens f-spot which I don't use every time I connect camera. I would like to change it to ignore
[08:59] <arrenlex> Hajiki: That megaupload doesn't sit well with me; is this an extension you chose to install? Anyway, whoever said to try in safemode has good advice... does it look okay if you launch it as firefox -safe-mode ?
[08:59] <g00se> The idea would be to get Ubuntu onto my 2nd HD and then dual-boot Etch and U
[09:00] <cwillu> preben_, system | preferences | removable..., and then in places | <anything> | Edit | Preferences | Media
[09:00] <keri> cwillu: i think u really fixed it and we did not know i am checking now
[09:00] <cwillu> preben_, (there's two places)
[09:00] <Fartini> http://obamainfrance.ytmnd.com/
[09:00] <preben_> cwillu: in removable I can only turn on and off the command I want to run
[09:01] <cwillu> preben_, so turn it off
[09:01] <preben_> cwillu: I use another program but still f-spot get opened two
[09:01] <cwillu> preben_, so turn it off, and then look at the other spot I mentioned
[09:01] <HorizonXP> hey guys, any idea why programs seem to shutdown on me automatically, after being left on for a few hours? like Transmission?
[09:01] <preben_> cwillu: but i want my command to run, not f-spot
[09:02] <cwillu> preben_, so. check. the. other. spot. I. mentioned.
[09:02] <hajiki> cwillu: i ran firefox in safe mode and it looks the same
[09:02] <preben_> cwillu: ok
[09:02] <cwillu> lol
[09:02] <arrenlex> Hajiki: Can you give the exact url that you're seeing this on?
[09:02] <keri> cwillu: i guess when u had me go to system,  pref and then to removable and change to digikam  it worked,  i turned on my camera and digikam came on and then i downloaded and they are there
[09:03] <cwillu> oh, okay then
[09:03] <keri> cwillu: thank you
[09:03] <cwillu> np
[09:03] <hajiki> arrenlex: ubuntuforums.org?
[09:03] <cwillu> anything for a fellow Carey, even if you spell it wrong :p
[09:03] <keri> nite
[09:04] <preben_> cwillu: and then in places | <anything> | Edit | Preferences | Media
[09:04] <preben_> cwillu: don't find this
[09:05] <preben_> cwillu: you mean from thunar, then I get same menu
[09:05] <hajiki> arrenlex: what do you mean? http://ubuntuforums.org/
[09:05] <cwillu> oh, not nautilus :/
[09:05] <arrenlex> Hajiki: http://68.148.168.246/screenshots/27980.png Looks okay to me in 3.0.1... sorry, I don't know what's going on with you.
[09:05] <cwillu> good to know if you're not running straight ubuntu :p
[09:05] <preben_> cwillu: I said xfce
[09:05] <cwillu> sorry, missed that
[09:06] <cwillu> preben_, you might want to check out #xubuntu, they'll probably be a bit more familiar with where autolaunching things are set
[09:06] <preben_> cwillu: if I turn off the importing my command doesn't get run but f-spot opens anyway
[09:06] <hajiki> arrenlex: thanks anyway...
[09:06]  * genii hires a crew fom Bangalore to live his life for him
[09:06] <preben_> cwillu: so I guess it is gnome thing
[09:06] <genii> oops wrong channel
[09:06] <cwillu> preben_, you aren't running nautilus for a desktop are you?
[09:06] <cwillu> preben_, try running nautilus from a terminal, and then check the Edit | Preferences | Media thing
[09:07] <FibonacciGold> From which package do I get zlib ?
[09:07] <preben_> cwillu: i instaleld ubuntu and xubuntu packages and kubuntu packages
[09:07] <cwillu> preben_, (ctrl+c in the terminal, possibly followed by a killall nautilus will kill it off if it starts misbehaving)
[09:07] <preben_> some people use xfce some kde etc...
[09:07] <preben_> I opened nautilus now
[09:07] <preben_> found the menu
[09:08] <cwillu> FibonacciGold, probably libzlib or something like that, just do a search for zlib in synaptic
[09:08] <FibonacciGold> cwillu: Did that, couldn't find it.
[09:08] <preben_> I'll try xubuntu
[09:08] <cwillu> FibonacciGold, there's a zlib1g
[09:09] <cwillu> FibonacciGold, if you're compiling something, you'll need zlib1g-dev
[09:09] <cwillu> preben_, nothing there?
[09:09] <cwillu> under images?
[09:09] <FibonacciGold> cwillu: Yes, ofcourse, my bad. Cheers...
[09:10] <Fartini> http://obamainfrance.ytmnd.com/
[09:10] <eko1> i'm trying to do a certain sudo command <sudo patch -p1 < 2.6.24.patch> in terminal but it's giving me the message "permission denied" anyone know how to fix this
[09:10] <preben_> cwillu: found it in gconf-editor some gnome autorun command and I turned it off and now my script runs only
[09:11] <Travisss> Hi, I setup a PPTP vpn server and have it working to access my network, but I would like to also be able to access my internet over the vpn...how do I set this up?
[09:11] <arrenlex> eko1: sudo -s ; patch -p1 < 2.6.24.patch ; exit
[09:11] <darren_> anyone offer advice on outlook 2007?
[09:11] <unop> eko1, sudo bash -c "patch -p1 < 2.6.24.patch"
[09:11] <cwillu> Travisss, you mean access the internet via the work vpn?
[09:12] <arrenlex> eko1: unop_ suggests a better way.
[09:12] <eko1> ok thanks both of you
[09:12] <Travisss> cwillu yes, I am running the VPS, I want to go down the street to the cafe and access the internet over my VPN
[09:12] <unop> arrenlex, I doubt your way works - considering that is a valid compound command :)
[09:12] <cwillu> Travisss, sorry, still confused
[09:12] <Travisss> cwillu I can only access network resources right now, not the actual internet
[09:12] <Miksag1> hey.. um, is it possible to turn of the automatic ligtures in Ubuntu?
[09:13] <cwillu> Travisss, we're not talking about any remote desktop, right?
[09:13] <darren_>  anyone offer advice on outlook 2007? -or point me in a direction that can?
[09:13] <cwillu> Travisss, because accessing the internet from your work machine via the vpn is a definite no-no
[09:13] <Travisss> cwillu no, I have an ubuntu computer with a vpn server running (pptp)
[09:13] <arrenlex> unop: Quite right, it's total crap. My bad.
[09:13] <arvind_khadri> darren_, ask #windows
[09:13] <Travisss> cwillu why is that?
[09:14] <darren_> many thanks, arvind...
[09:15] <cwillu> allowing a work computer to access the internet directly implies circumventing the corporate firewall, which is the sort of thing that would cause me (as an administrator) to talk to your boss about your activities
[09:15] <cwillu> however, that's not what we're talking about  if I understand you
[09:15] <cwillu> Travisss, ^^^^.  So, you'd need to configure your ubuntu server to provide a default gateway, and to actually route the traffic as necessary
[09:16] <Travisss> ok
[09:16] <cwillu> Travisss, The server's gateway may also need to know to contact the server for those internal addresses, depending on how you have the subnets set up
[09:16] <cwillu> All stuff handled by the documentation, although it is a little bit complicated.
[09:16] <Travisss> cwillu well my problem is I don't have an easy way to test this
[09:16] <cwillu> Very important to have a good understanding of the material if you're running a vpn though
[09:17] <cwillu> Travisss, set up a couple vm's
[09:17] <hajiki> i purged my firefox installation and it looks fine now
[09:17] <Travisss> cause when I connect in my network it works, but I have no idea how it will act when I connect from an external connection
[09:17] <cwillu> btw, if you have the option, I've always found openvpn far easier to configure and administer than cisco vpns
[09:18] <cwillu> not compatible with pptp obviously, but overall it's a far better architecture
[09:18] <cwillu> hajiki, weird.  Sounds like you ran safe-mode, but didn't actually tell it to disable the plugins (my bad)
[09:18] <DeadKennedy2880> !printer
[09:18] <cwillu> Travisss, hajiki, anyone else I was helping out:  I gotta run now, good luck!
[09:19] <Travisss> thanks
[09:19] <hajiki> later mate
[09:19] <arrenlex> cwillu, Hajiki: safe mode disables plugins, that's what it's for. I'm confused.
[09:20] <cwillu> arrenlex, there's a list of things you can disable when you launch it
[09:20] <cwillu> plugins vs extensions vs about:config entries vs ...
[09:20] <arrenlex> cwillu: No, there's a list of things to PERMANENTLY disable when you launch it.
[09:20] <cwillu> ah, k then
[09:20] <cwillu> must have been an about:config entry or something messed up then
[09:20] <hajiki> yeah safe mode disabled my plugins
[09:21] <Bend0r> hey all! little question..ifound out that i am missing 'exec'-flag in /etc/fstab. what does that mean?
[09:21] <arrenlex> cwillu: It was probably firefox.dontRenderPagesCorrectly = true
[09:21] <hajiki> but that wasnt the problem
[09:21] <cwillu> arrenlex, :p
[09:21] <cwillu> aka quirksmode?
[09:21]  * cwillu is seriously walking out the door now though, poking arrenlex with a stick as he leaves
[09:21] <arrenlex> crap, my funny joke is something browsers have been forced to really do for years. :(
[09:22] <hajiki> lol
[09:22] <unop> Bend0r, nothing? if the line has 'defaults'  exec is included automatically
[09:24] <Bend0r> unop.. thing about it is that my max payne isnt working because im missing 'exec'-flag in /etc/fstab they say. but i dont know what that means actually..
[09:24] <snarkster> has anyone ever tried to make a persistant usb key full install?
[09:24] <unop> Bend0r, from the mount manpage.    exec   Permit execution of binaries.
[09:25] <snarkster> man mount
[09:25] <unop> Bend0r, without it, you cannot launch programs, etc that reside on the partition - even if they are set to execute
[09:26] <pratik> hello
[09:27] <Bend0r> unop and how do i fix it? sorry im new to ubuntu..
[09:27] <snarkster> hmmm
[09:27] <snarkster> hello pratik
[09:27] <unop> Bend0r,  i would just add defaults to the list of options
[09:28] <snarkster> i don thtink ive seen this room this slow in a long time
[09:28] <pratik> where can i get kernel smp for ubuntu? or is it already compiled in original one?
[09:28] <Bend0r> unop, sorry?
[09:28] <unop> Bend0r,  e.g.  /dev/blah      /media/somewhere     ext3  defaults        0       2
[09:29] <snarkster> pratik it should already be there
[09:29] <snarkster> according to what i have read they arent making seperate smp kernels anymore as you wont really notice a difference
[09:30] <pratik> im using a Pentium D proccessor and when i disable single proccesor mode, any of linux distros dont work
[09:30] <Flannel> pratik: The -generic kernel does both UP and SMP
[09:30] <Jangari> how can i test whether my machine can boot from a usb device?
[09:30] <Flannel> pratik: if its giving you errors with that, you should file a bug.
[09:30] <snarkster> isnt that what i said?
[09:31] <matic> is there any option to switch desktops in cube like windoows with alt+tab?
[09:31] <pratik> it hangs on GUI after login..
[09:31] <snarkster> yes ctrl+f1 should change to 1st desktop
[09:31] <snarkster> maybe not
[09:31] <genii> matic: I usually also use ctrl arrow-left or arrow-right
[09:31] <Jangari> ctrl+alt, i think
[09:31] <pratik> totally hangs, cant use keyboard too, but its fine in runlevel 3
[09:31] <Kiyiko> looking for a way to password protect storage harddrive?
[09:32] <snarkster> hmm i just read about cryptofs i think its called.
[09:32] <snarkster> encrypted filesystem
[09:33] <Baby_Shambl3s> snarkster: control+alt+right or left arrows keys to change desktops
[09:33] <snarkster> ah thank you..
[09:33] <snarkster> i usually mouse it tho
[09:33] <eth01> what's the best way to install (boot) ubuntuy from usb?
[09:34] <snarkster> hmm grab a copy of hacking ubuntu and make a usb key. LOL Im doing that as we speak
[09:34] <Flannel> eth01: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20without%20a%20CD
[09:38] <LOWER_CASE> I've got a webcam: Swann HS with USB.  How can I see if it works, please?
[09:39] <genii> !hcl | LOWER_CASE it may be listed here under webcam section
[09:40] <nando> hello?
[09:40] <LOWER_CASE> genii, ubottu: will check out, thanks.
[09:40] <Kagee> LOWER_CASE: Install Cheese, plug it in and see
[09:40] <antonio__> hola
[09:40] <LOWER_CASE> Kagee, also thanks.
[09:40] <nando> anyone know how to install the atlantis or any other compiz plugin?
[09:42] <Jangari> how can i test whether my system supports booting from usb device?
[09:42] <nando> anyone know how to install the atlantis or any other compiz plugin?
[09:43] <hajiki> nando: go to #compiz-fusion
[09:43] <hajiki> maybe you'll find help there
[09:43] <unop> Jangari, you have to consult your motherboard/BIOS's manual
[09:44] <unop> Jangari, or have a look in the BIOS utility
[09:44] <nando> join #compiz-fusion
[09:44] <Flannel> nando: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:44] <starbyte> hey
[09:44] <starbyte> im looking for nerds
[09:44] <starbyte> any of you nerds?
[09:44] <Flannel> !offtopic | starbyte
[09:45] <starbyte> excuse me, you flatulent fuck?
[09:45] <Jangari> mm, alright,
[09:45] <starbyte> don't tell me i'm offtopic.
[09:45] <kenkku> starbyte: read the message and try to understand it
[09:45] <darren_> i have an email problem.  can anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:46] <sjovan> darren_: maby you should try to describe the problem?
[09:47] <darren_> smtp with evolution is fine but will not connect with outlook2007
[09:47] <Jangari> 'connect with'?
[09:47] <Jangari> can you define that?
[09:47] <Jangari> what has evolution got to do with outlook2007?
[09:47] <darren_> quoting outlook 'outlook cannot connect to your outgoing (smtp) server...'
[09:48] <Jangari> ah, okay
[09:48] <darren_> what it has to do is that one program works fine and the other doesn't and i don't know why
[09:48] <sjovan> darren_: why do you want to use outlook?
[09:48] <Jangari> stupid question, but you have made sure that your smtp server is entered correctly with outlook?
[09:49] <Jangari> use thunderbird instead, is my first suggestion
[09:49] <inik1> darren_: send error here
[09:49] <darren_> because it's the laptop supplied by my workplace and although i hate it i have no choice
[09:49] <sjovan> darren_: so this isn't a ubuntu problem at all?
[09:50] <unop> darren_, you should be asking this in a channel that supports outlook
[09:50] <Jangari> darren_: is the one supplied by your workplace connected to the same net connection as the one on which you run evolution?
[09:50] <darren_> no it isn't but i'm new to irc and i don't know who to ask
[09:50] <inik1> darren_: it's about smtp & pop connection seettings
[09:50] <Jangari> hold on a sec everyone, this may be an easy one'
[09:50] <darren_> yes, it is currently connected wirelessly to the same router as this desktop machine
[09:50] <unop> darren_, the guys in ##windows might know
[09:50] <unop> Jangari, it's offtopic
[09:51] <inik1> inik1: i can help
[09:51] <darren_> tried ##windows but was ignored for 15 minutes
[09:51] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[09:51] <Jangari> woo hoo, netsplit!
[09:51] <Jangari> yee haw
[09:51] <inik1> darren_: i know enogh about mail clients. ?
[09:52] <Oli``> Is there a tool I can use to monitor total monthly bandwidth?
[09:52] <mkquist> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH... netsplit... lol
[09:52] <hateball> Oli``:  You can use iftop I guess
[09:52] <darren_> guys, i don't want to upset ontopic/offtopic protocol.  just point me in a direction and i'll be out of your hair
[09:53] <marin> FloodBot, wtf?!?! Anyway why is my flashplayer integrated in mozilla firefox slow(it suddenly speedup, and then slowdown), I installed ATI drivers!?!?'
[09:53] <hateball> Oli``: or vnStat
[09:53] <Jangari> it sounds like it's an outlook issue, darren_, i would suggest you tempt fate and install thunderbird instead, knowing that your workplace may never know
[09:54] <Oli``> vnStat looks more like it hateball - cheers!
[09:54] <tony_> i have a question
[09:54] <hateball> Oli``: Happy to help :)
[09:54] <sjovan> darren_: "10:47:55 <darren_> quoting outlook 'outlook cannot connect to your outgoing (smtp) server...'" sounds like it has something to do with the smtp setup :P
[09:55] <sjovan> darren_: go for Jangari solution
[09:55] <inik1> darren_: you can use telnet <pop server > 110 to check if it's available
[09:55] <matic> can someone help me with establishing wireless connection
[09:55] <sjovan> 's *
[09:55] <Jangari> yeah, first of all, double check and triple check the smtp,
[09:55] <Tony5> hmm
[09:55] <Tony5> lol
[09:55] <darren_> agreed about smtp settings - but same as evolution and evo works fine.  fair point about thunderbird though...
[09:55] <inik1> darren_: and telnet <smtp server > 25
[09:55] <artagnon> I'm attempting to cross over my OS from ubuntu to debian. I changed the repos and debootstrapped on /. It boots with the ubuntu kernel but not with the debian one
[09:55] <Tony5> whenever an person who knows ubuntu that can help me with a situation
[09:55] <sjovan> matic: maby you should tell us what the problem is...
[09:55] <artagnon> what am I missing?
[09:55] <Tony5> please whisper me
[09:55] <Jangari> it's less of a problem than having your workplace move everyone from a unix mail system to microsoft exchange, against everyone's wishes
[09:56] <hateball> !ask | Tony5
[09:56] <matic> sjovan: how can i check if my wifi card is properly installed
[09:56] <Baby_Shambl3s> !ask | Tony5
[09:56] <darren_> tried port numbers ad infinitum but no success.  evolution worked without even asking for one!
[09:56] <Tony5> well when i installed ubuntu
[09:56] <Baby_Shambl3s> hmmm where is the bot?
[09:56] <Tony5> i only had 1 hard drive in it
[09:56] <Tony5> i turned it off
[09:56] <Tony5> added my second one
[09:56] <Jangari> Baby_Shambl3s: hateball already did it
[09:56] <Tony5> then booted it back up
[09:56] <darren_> tried telnet 25 - not connecting
[09:57] <Baby_Shambl3s> Tony5: in one line
[09:57] <sjovan> matic: lspci | grep Wireless ---> www.pastebin.com the result
[09:57] <sjovan> matic: it's inportant with the big "W"
[09:57] <hateball> !enter | Tony5
[09:57] <Tony5> im missing a file that is on that second hard drive and i dont know where it is can you tell me if ubuntu might have tried to formatt that drive?
[09:57] <Baby_Shambl3s> Jangari: oh yeah didnt notice
[09:57] <mkquist> Tony5: please dont ask to ask to ask a quest...   what the hell was I doing...  oh yeah...  dont ask to ask...  sorry, it just seems funny. gnite all have fun.
[09:58] <matic> sjovan: http://pastebin.com/d1fa65f5
[09:58] <pogay> does somebody test hd installation by *qemu* ? doesn't find the "root".
[09:58] <ynotest> hey, does anyone have experience with dual booting vista and ubuntu? i have already tried easybcd but it doesnt work
[09:58] <pogay> qemu -kernel vmlinuz -initrd initrd.img -append root=/dev/hda1/ -snapshot -hda /dev/sdb3
[09:58] <mkquist> ynotest: it works w/o that i remember
[09:58] <sjovan> matic: looks like it's working yep :)
[09:59] <ynotest> yeah grub didnt load
[09:59] <Baby_Shambl3s> Tony5,  ok trying to understand; you have 1 hd which you replaced with your second hd which has ubuntu right and in that hd your missing a file?
[09:59] <Jangari> darren_: even if you're restricted to using outlook, install and try thunderbird to see if it connects alright, so as to at least diagnose that the problem isn't your entire machine but something restricted to outlook
[09:59] <pogay> i tryed /  /dev/sdb3 ...
[09:59] <mkquist> i think u can still use grub, but you need another piece of software
[09:59] <matic> sjovan: if i unplug the cable net doesent work
[09:59] <remoteCTRL> hi all!
[09:59] <hateball> hello ;d
[09:59] <darren_> yes, good idea.  i'll try that now...
[09:59] <ynotest> after i install ubuntu, it just boots into vista if i dont do anything
[09:59] <remoteCTRL> anyone got an idea how i can import more themes into gnome-artng?
[09:59] <mkquist> ynotest: grub just points to the vista loader
[10:00] <sjovan> matic: prob. because you have to set up the wireless first. are under a cryptated network or something?
[10:00] <mkquist> yno
[10:00] <mkquist> ynotest: oops, give me a mo, ill give you a link
[10:00] <Baby_Shambl3s> out of curiosity if 1 hd has windows and the other has ubuntu can you just replace them around? will the MBR even allow that?
[10:00] <Jangari> ynotest: apparently it isn't so good. Vista never really shuts down, they tell me, so you have difficulty mounting shared partitions; 'already in use', etc.
[10:00] <hateball> ynotest: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and set whichever you want to be booting as default. Might want to remove the savedefault for vista perhaps.
[10:00] <matic> sjovan: i have wireless router, with wpa key yes.. if i run ifconfig only lo and eth0 shown
[10:00] <Tony5> well i have it where there are 2 drives on it. i had a big file on that second one that had my backup files from my previous operating system. when i tried to look in the second drive it shown only 1 file was in there plus a recycle file  and some system restore file. this file i am missing is almost like a gigabit big.
[10:00] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: edit your /boot/grub/menu.list, there is a variable to set what os to boot per default
[10:01] <ynotest> it is not the default problem i am having.. i used easybcd to add entry for ubuntu grub but it just goes partition not found or something when i try to boot into it
[10:01] <Matze__> huhu
[10:01] <ichweissnicht> hi!
[10:02] <Matze__> was geht
[10:02] <Jangari> ah, error 17, ynotest?
[10:02] <ichweissnicht> ich bin noch Windows user
[10:02] <ynotest> yeah thats the one
[10:02] <ichweissnicht> würd aber gern wechseln
[10:02] <Jangari> !de | Matze__
[10:02] <Matze__> ich net mehr
[10:02] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: i dont know easybdc so i can not help you with that but i know that supergrub cd boots all that can be booted
[10:02] <Baby_Shambl3s> Tony5: ahhhh youre main hd (1st hd has ubuntu) and your second hd (is for backup) but on that hd you cnat find the file you need which is 1GB, what is the second hd formated to and are you accessing it from windows or ubuntu?
[10:02] <Jangari> okay, you need "super grub disk"
[10:02] <Jangari> ynotest:
[10:02] <ichweissnicht> I'd like to change from Windows to a free OS
[10:02] <Matze__> ich glaub der chat is gar nich ma so gut
[10:02] <sjovan> matic: what does iwconfig say?
[10:02] <sjovan> pastebin
[10:02] <Jangari> I think that's what you need anyway
[10:02] <remoteCTRL> !de ichweissnicht
[10:03] <sjovan> ichweissnicht: then go for ubuntu :)
[10:03] <remoteCTRL> ﻿!de | ichweissnicht
[10:03] <ichweissnicht> But I read that even Ubunto contains non-free parts like firmware, etc
[10:03] <marin> How to change refresh rate, I can't change it from sys->pref->screen resolution
[10:03] <ichweissnicht> so would you rather advice me to grab Gobuntu or gnewsense?
[10:03] <mkquist> ynotest: i installed vista and just used grub... was quiet easy... don't know about easybcd.  imo third party boot loaders don't help
[10:03] <matic> sojvan: http://pastebin.com/d2c3fcf43
[10:03] <matic> sjovan: http://pastebin.com/d2c3fcf43
[10:04] <pogay> ichweissnicht: ich finde ubuntu recht nett für normale Benutzer, und arbeite auch damit
[10:04] <unop> !de
[10:04] <sjovan> ichweissnicht: no-free parts? are you thinking about like 3 party drivers and stuff or?
[10:04] <remoteCTRL> ichweissnicht: firmware, that is meant when a driver releaser does not publish under glp to avoid mixed versions that cause problems that is perfectly ok
[10:04] <sjovan> matic: okay... the something is wrong :)
[10:04] <popey> ichweissnicht: ubuntu now has a "free software only" option during install which replaces gobuntu
[10:04] <Tony5> this whole system has ubuntu linux on it.when i had the windows operating system up the file was fine but once i tried once i removed the second drive and formatted the main one and put ubuntu on their installed and done the updates it wanted. then turned the pc off and put the second drive in and turned it back on that file was gone.
[10:04] <fouad> hi any one knows a good open source/free tools to visually design databases on linux ?
[10:04] <matic> sjovan: what do u suggest to do
[10:04] <pogay> ichweissnicht:  there is also a ubuntu with only free parts
[10:05] <pogay> there are different ubuntus
[10:05] <Jangari> ynotest: i think the problem is that your menu.lst has lost the path to the right kernal, windows has the tendency to block other OSs from being installed easily
[10:05] <unop> pogay, he already knows about gobuntu/gnewsense
[10:05] <remoteCTRL> ichweissnicht: non free drivers does not mean you have to pay for it it only means you must not alter them
[10:05] <Jangari> there are people around here normally who helped me with precisely that problem when it happened to me
[10:05] <popey> unop: ok
[10:05] <ynotest> ah i c, i will try playing around with auto super grub
[10:05] <sjovan> matic: dam, haven't been on my box for a month now. thinking :)
[10:05] <ichweissnicht> popey: Thanks for the hint. Then I don't need gobunu anymore?? What'S then the difference between gobuntu and ubuntu with free-sw only install?
[10:06] <remoteCTRL> ichweissnicht: i would not suggest to use ubuntu without restricted drivers as you will not have nvidia or ati drivers then
[10:06] <marin> How to change refresh rate, I can't change it from sys->pref->screen resolution
[10:06] <marin> How to change refresh rate, I can't change it from sys->pref->screen resolution
[10:06] <remoteCTRL> marin: got an nvidia card?
[10:06] <Jangari> it'll be restricted by your monitor, marin
[10:07] <marin> I have ATI
[10:07] <marin> How restricted by monitor, I am on 60 Hz now
[10:07] <Baby_Shambl3s> Tony5: if you didn't format/deleted the file on the second hd it should be there, if it is a system file it could be hidden; ctrl+h to unhide, if the file is a Gig than you cna compare all the files you got on that drive to the amount of space left that should tell you if it is there or not otherwise its gone
[10:07] <ichweissnicht> I'm not concerned about paying, but about all source code bein open. Though I can't read it, it gives me a better feeling in terms of security. That's why I'm mopving away from Windose
[10:07] <marin> I could go higher than 60hz on Winblows
[10:07] <artagnon> which package is init part of?
[10:07] <Baby_Shambl3s> remoteCTRL: are there any drivers for sis?
[10:08] <gaelfx> ichweissnicht: well, you don't HAVE to use any non-free things with Ubuntu
[10:08] <IndoRama> is it possible to make Ubuntu autologin (and not wait at the login screen) when the machine is booted ?
[10:08] <remoteCTRL> Baby_Shambl3s: not that i knew of, should wor out of the box with xorg drivers
[10:08] <Tony5> ok i am going to try and reboot again to see if maybe it just have bugged itself making it where i cant see it i will be right back
[10:08] <Jangari> it's in users and groups, IndoRama
[10:08] <marin> Catalyst control center is telling me same, why It can't go higher than 60Hz?!?!?!
[10:08] <gaelfx> ichweissnicht: everything that comes with Ubuntu by default is free, you would have to forcibly install anything non-free
[10:08] <hateball> IndoRama: /usr/sbin/gdmsetup
[10:08] <Baby_Shambl3s> ichweissnicht: use linux in general whichever OS you choose youll like it, just recently got my toshiba satellite working with puppy linux and dsl (50-100mb)
[10:09] <ichweissnicht> gaelfx: but if I don't use non-free parts then I can't watch vidos??
[10:09] <Baby_Shambl3s> remoteCTRL: yeah but i havent got much 3d support :/
[10:09] <IndoRama> Thanks, Janagri, Hateball
[10:09] <gaelfx> marin: why do you want it to go higher than 60hz?
[10:09] <unop> marin, what modes are supported with your current setup?  use xrandr at a terminal to find out?
[10:09] <InfecteX> Hello! I have a problem! I try to connect my palm m130 to PC but it doesen't work! What i must do?
[10:09] <Oli``> How can I make ASLA remember my volume so next time I boot it's where it is now?
[10:09] <pox> anyone having problems with acpi_fakekey?
[10:09] <pox> doesn't seem to be doing anything
[10:09] <artagnon> how do I find out which package a certain file is part of?
[10:09] <gaelfx> ichweissnicht: you can watch videos, only videos that are made with free codecs though
[10:09] <remoteCTRL> marin: Baby_Shambl3s sry but thats the way it is with onboard devices..
[10:09] <artagnon> I want to like grep the output of dpkg -L (all) for a certain file
[10:10] <jeeves__> does anyone know if there is a channel for the eagle package?
[10:10] <InfecteX> Hello! I have a problem! I try to connect my palm m130 to PC but it doesen't work! What i must do?
[10:10] <artagnon> but that ^^ isn't a good way
[10:10] <gaelfx> ichweissnicht: there is no way to watch those other videos or listen to mp3s with only foss code
[10:10] <remoteCTRL> marin:  if you do lspci is your card listed there correctly?
[10:10] <ichweissnicht> Baby_Shamble3s: but almost all contain non-free drivers and firmware. On the other hand I'm worried about not being able to watch movies then... :-(
[10:10] <Jangari> or, IndoRama: system > admin > login window > Security > enable automatic login
[10:10] <Baby_Shambl3s> remoteCTRL: yeha true i should stop being stingy and pay for a dam card "but we both know that wont happen any time soon"
[10:10] <ichweissnicht> I'm not a computer expert... :-(
[10:10] <InfecteX> Hello! I have a problem! I try to connect my palm m130 to PC but it doesen't work! What i must do?
[10:10] <pox> InfecteX, asking just once might help
[10:10] <remoteCTRL> Baby_Shambl3s: well i dint know undtil just now:D
[10:11] <InfecteX> opc: Asking one, no response
[10:11] <InfecteX> pox
[10:11] <IndoRama> Thanks Jangari, I got it
[10:11] <Oli``> gaelfx> ichweissnicht: there is no way to watch those other videos or listen to mp3s with only foss code << not true. the code is FOSS but it could be deemed as patent infringing in the few parts of the world that have software patents
[10:11] <Baby_Shambl3s> ichweissnicht: youll watch your movies believe me you will and remoteCTRL true true you didnt
[10:11] <hateball> artagnon: dunno if you can search packages.ubuntu.com, but it seems down atm
[10:11] <Baby_Shambl3s> InfecteX: whats your quetsion if i cna help i will
[10:11] <Baby_Shambl3s> InfecteX: nvm
[10:11] <remoteCTRL> Baby_Shambl3s: exept for bluerays...
[10:12] <ichweissnicht> humm, ok
[10:12] <Baby_Shambl3s> remoteCTRL: wont be buying nay soon not until films become fully distributed on it and on HD tvs
[10:12] <ichweissnicht> if I install ubuntu with free-sw only and I find out I need those non-free drivers urgently, I can also install them easily afterwards, can't I?
[10:13] <JohnFlux2> hey all
[10:13] <remoteCTRL> Baby_Shambl3s: too expensive anyways...
[10:13] <JohnFlux2> how do I get my wireless atheros pci card working please?
[10:13] <JohnFlux2> lspci shows that card, but no driver appears to have been loaded for it
[10:13] <hateball> ichweissnicht: Yes, if you try playing a restricted file it will even ask you if you want the codecs etc downloaded
[10:13] <remoteCTRL> !wifi | JohnFlux2
[10:13] <Baby_Shambl3s> remoteCTRL: true forgot to add that
[10:13] <JohnFlux2> at least ifconfig -a  and iwconfig  doesn't see it
[10:14] <eth01> txqueuelen:1000
[10:14] <eth01> what does that mean btw ^?
[10:14] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: you need to install drivers and maybe firmware, and consider that atheros is not eth but athX
[10:14] <Baby_Shambl3s> ichweissnicht: aint you making a fuss over nothing you have an option to use free or restricted its up to you whats best
[10:14] <ichweissnicht> And what's then the difference between gnewsense (based on ubuntu but only free) and ubuntu in only free install and gobuntu?
[10:14] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: yeah,  I have no ath*
[10:15] <ichweissnicht> I trhink basically it's a matter of principles
[10:15] <ichweissnicht> thanks, hateball for the advice
[10:15] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: then youre almost certain missing drivers, what does dmesg|grep atheros return?
[10:16] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: nothing (even trying grep -i)
[10:16] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: closest hit is ath_hal being loaded
[10:16] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: what does lspci return for your wireless card?
[10:17] <JohnFlux2> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
[10:17] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: take the chipnumber out of lscpi and dmesg| grep the number
[10:17] <gaelfx> does anyone know if ndiswrapper can install ethernet drivers?
[10:17] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: in that case dmesg | grep ﻿AR2413
[10:17] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: yeah - nothing at all
[10:18] <remoteCTRL> ??
[10:18] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: no matches for  even  dmesg | grep -i AR2
[10:18] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: your ubuntu correctla recognizes the card bt it makes no attempt to initialize it
[10:18] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: hmm
[10:18] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: how rude :-)
[10:19] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: but you got the led shining for the wifi, meaning it is turned on?
[10:19] <remoteCTRL> :D
[10:19] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: the pci card's led isn't shinning
[10:20] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: switch it on already! :D
[10:20] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: it's a pci card.. how on earth do I turn it on? :)
[10:21] <eth01> nobody knew :)
[10:21] <gaelfx> does anyone know if ndiswrapper can install ethernet drivers?
[10:22] <Baby_Shambl3s> gaelfx: i thought ndiswrapper was for graphics card, am i mistaken?
[10:22] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: you mean like in a computer not in a laptop?
[10:22] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: right
[10:22] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: It's a PC
[10:22] <gaelfx> Baby_Shambl3s: it's actually for wireless mainly
[10:22] <Baby_Shambl3s> gaelfx: yeah just checked online on their homesite
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: that is weird->ubuntu recons it but does nothing to start it
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> *think*
[10:23] <gaelfx> Baby_Shambl3s: me too
[10:23] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: is it worth me trying the madwifi stuff?
[10:23] <gaelfx> Baby_Shambl3s: but I need to figure out if it will work for my card
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: gimme a sec
[10:24] <Baby_Shambl3s> you should do a google search on it with you card model which you havent stated
[10:24] <gordonjcp> hrmm
[10:24] <sugi> ﻿I am installing morrowind right now.  I am on the wiki morrowind page and it's pretty straight forward.  Do I have to install anything on a fresh installation of ubuntu?
[10:24] <gordonjcp> when I reboot, I find that the permissions of some devices have changed
[10:25] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: lshw -C network    shows it btw.  it starts with  *-network:0  UNCLAIMED     though, whatever that means
[10:25] <gordonjcp> how can I make permissions in /dev/ stick across reboots?
[10:25] <InfecteX> Hello! I have a problem! I try to connect my palm m130 to PC but it doesen't work! What i must do?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: you should not be assigning or modifying permissions on devices.
[10:25] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: oh?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work | InfecteX
[10:25] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: so how do you suggest I create new devices?
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: instead, add your user to the group that has rights to the device. Fiddling with /dev permissions is a short way down the path of "help I can't boot because my disk disappeared"
[10:26] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: ok i got it:
[10:26] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: that works if the device is owned by anything other than root
[10:26] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: I don't plan on adding every single user into root's group
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: you don't add them to the root group. What device are you trying to access?
[10:27] <Baby_Shambl3s> fyrestrtr, gordonjcp: yeah done that many times not pretty when you cant edit stuff through cli and x doesnt start up afterwards :/ learnt my lesson passing experience on
[10:27] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: a USB serial device, for which I've written a driver
[10:27] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2:sudo apt-get install madwifi-source madwifi-tools madwifi-doc module-assistant build && m-a prepare && m-a a-i madwifi
[10:27] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: when I load the kernel module it all works, but Ubuntu likes to tamper with the permissions
[10:28] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: without the build in the line
[10:28] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: m-a might require you to install build-essential
[10:28] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL:  no such package madwifi-source
[10:28] <JohnFlux2> i guess i need a repos for that?
[10:29] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: sec
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: what permissions do you want on it?
[10:30] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: ok spare it out and just install the madwifi and the tools
[10:30] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: okay done
[10:30] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: mode 0660, with an appropriate group and user set
[10:30] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: ok what does iwconfig return now?
[10:30] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: the annoying thing is that it clobbers any added character nodes in /dev on reboot anyway
[10:30] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: no difference
[10:31] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: there's still no ath* or similiar
[10:31] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: dmesg | grep AR2413 ?
[10:31] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: done the ma prepare and m-a a-i madwifi yet?
[10:32] <remoteCTRL> m-a prepare
[10:32] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: m-a a-i madwifi    seems to want to package and install  madwifi-source
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: have you adjusted the udev rules for your device?
[10:32] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: no, good point, I should read up on udev
[10:32] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: does it do it?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: that's what is doing the 'clobbering' on boot.
[10:33] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: is there any way to remove udev and just use oldskool /dev ?
[10:33] <InfecteX> I have a problem! My Palm M130 doesen't connect with my PC with gnome-pillot, eighter with jpilot. HELP!
[10:33] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: no, it can't find it.   i could check out the madwifi source manually
[10:33] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: do so ill check package.ubuntu meanwhile
[10:33] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: thanks man
[10:34] <genii> InfecteX: Were you using it primarily with a Mac computer previously?
[10:34] <codered> Hello , i was upgrading to hardy but suddenly upgrading process has freezed here :"Generating locales ... en_AU.UTF-8..." please advice !
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: I am not aware; but if there was, it would require a kernel recompile.
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> codered: that process does take a while.
[10:35] <gaelfx> does anyone know if ndiswrapper can install an NVidia MCP51 ethernet controller driver?
[10:35] <codered> fyrestrtr: i did wait it the whole night :-( ,
[10:35] <remoteCTRL> what the heck is wrong with packages.ubuntu.com? i cant load the site
[10:35] <spiel_mit_feuer> does anyone here use a 64-bit computer?
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> spiel_mit_feuer: yes.
[10:36] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: yes
[10:36] <spiel_mit_feuer> what do you use for flash websites like youtube?
[10:36] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: standard flash player
[10:36] <teimu> im trying to configure my kernel. are there any tools for this (something like "menuconfig"? (yes, i know, if i have to ask, i probably shouldnt be messing with it, but im following a vague guide)
[10:36] <maria> hi children
[10:36] <spiel_mit_feuer> are you running a 32-bit browser?
[10:37] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: nope? you can also try out swfplayer
[10:37] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: sudo apt-get install libflash-swfplayer
[10:37] <spiel_mit_feuer> i found something better than swf
[10:38] <marco> hi. how to install compiz fusion?
[10:38] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down:/
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> spiel_mit_feuer: yes?
[10:38] <spiel_mit_feuer> i tried the swfdec plugin.. but i found one that works more like the native flash client used on 32 bit browsers
[10:38] <spiel_mit_feuer> i found it in synaptic
[10:38] <remoteCTRL> marco: i should be installed per default, go to /system/preferences/appearance
[10:39] <remoteCTRL> marco: and enable the advanced desktop effects on the visual effects tab
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> it was called "flashplugin-nonfree" This package will download the Flash Player from Adobe.  It is a
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> Netscape/Mozilla type plugin.  Any browser based on Netscape or Mozilla can
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> use the Flash plugin.  This package currently supports the following browsers:
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> Mozilla, Mozilla-Firefox, Firefox, Iceweasel, and Iceape.  Also Galeon and
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> Epiphany can use the Flash plugin.  Konqueror can also use the Flash plugin if
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> konqueror-nsplugins is installed.
[10:39] <FloodBot3> spiel_mit_feuer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: yes? so?
[10:40] <spiel_mit_feuer> should have come out as one large message
[10:40] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: okay i've made install'ed  madwifi
[10:40] <remoteCTRL> deos anyone know how to import more themes into gnome-artng?
[10:41] <marco> remoteCTRL, tnks. but i know there was a compiz fusion with lot more options. fire, etc. where do i get it ?
[10:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> it says its the actual flash client.. maybe a 64-bit testing version?
[10:41] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: nice! now you ought to be able to config it the usual way in system/admin/network
[10:41] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: modprobe ath_pci  gives symbol errors
[10:42] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: basically... adobe does not support 64 bit versions at all.. thanks adobe...
[10:42] <spiel_mit_feuer> so is this an unsupported 64-bit version made by adobe?
[10:43] <remoteCTRL> marco: open gome-control-center and click on advanced desktop settings
[10:43] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: i guess so
[10:43] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: restart your computer :D
[10:43] <spiel_mit_feuer> anyway... i tried it.. it works, so whether they support it fully, or its just a testing version, it works.... and is there for us to use on ubuntu.. all i had to do was check it in synaptic and it automatically installed itself as a browser plugin
[10:44] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: alway have a loog on that dmesg messages that should give iinfo why it isnt working
[10:44] <marco> remoteCTRL, sorry bothering you but where is gnome-control-center?
[10:44] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: basically your firefox should suggest to install that  as soon as you open a site that contains flash content?
[10:45] <remoteCTRL> marco: enter it as a command into a terminal
[10:45] <ynotest> i can't boot into ubuntu >.< i have just installed ubuntu after vista... but i didnt even get a grub menu or anything... tried easybcd and auto super grub disk... didnt work :S
[10:45] <spiel_mit_feuer> yeah, it really should remote.. if not firefox, then ubuntu should have it as a major package, or even installed automatically
[10:45] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: you got several menus in super grub disk do you see the partition and its contents there at all?
[10:46] <spiel_mit_feuer> if i was designing a distro for 64-bit, id use it
[10:46] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: i meant my firefox on ubuntu does that;)
[10:46] <ynotest> hmm i used auto super grub disk.. so i dunno.. it stopped at running "embed.... something"
[10:47] <spiel_mit_feuer> remote.. do you use java sites ever? such as for games?
[10:47] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: use the normal super grub disk you got alot of possibilities there, IF that thing is bootable at all super grub disk can do it for you, also change the master boot record and the partition table
[10:47] <ynotest> o k
[10:47] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: not for games, but you can hardly aoid java sites, why?
[10:47] <ynotest> need to find a blank cd then..
[10:48] <spiel_mit_feuer> what do you use for a java plugin?
[10:48] <spiel_mit_feuer> i tried a couple.. and one of them screwed up my browser
[10:48] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: the one that firefox asks me to install as soon as you hit a site?
[10:48] <needshelpandfast> hello can anyone help me with mounting ext3 in xubuntu?
[10:49] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: ah! sudo apt-get purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:49] <sjaakz> Hi all -- I bought a WIFI/PCI card for my Ubuntu 8.04 machine: a Linksys WMP54g (basically: (RT61:RT2561))
[10:49] <remoteCTRL> needshelpandfast: man mount
[10:49] <maria> helloooooooooooooo
[10:49] <sjaakz> I tried ndiswrapper - didnt work
[10:49] <sjaakz> now im trying to use the native rt61 drive r(no ndiswraper_ but doesnt work either. its all messed up now
[10:50] <sjaakz> all the tutorials dont work either
[10:50] <sjaakz> pcilist shows teh card is installed
[10:50] <sjaakz> but thats it
[10:50] <sjaakz> I cant get the wlan0 interface up (or is it ra0??)
[10:50] <spiel_mit_feuer> everytime firefox asks me to install something, it does nothing.. asks me to do a manual install
[10:50] <marco> remoteCTRL, gnome-control-center is open but I cant find advanced desktop settings.
[10:51] <maria> hello
[10:52] <remoteCTRL> marco: try compizconfig-settings-manager if not there sudo apt-get install it
[10:53] <sjaakz> "iwlist wlan0 scan" no results...
[10:53] <InfecteX> I have a problem! My Palm M130 doesen't connect with my PC with gnome-pillot, eighter with jpilot. HELP!
[10:53] <Angel-SL> Where did the dev-essentials package go?
[10:53] <Angel-SL> I need it
[10:53] <sjaakz> while this laptop is next to the Ubutu machine and sees 8 networks
[10:53] <gordonjcp> !repeat | InfecteX
[10:53] <remoteCTRL> !ask > maria
[10:53] <InfecteX> gordonjcp please tell me where i repeted my question!
[10:53] <naftilos76> hi every body, i've got a problem with a pci rt2500 card. I've got ubuntu UE (same as ubuntu 8.04) and although the wireless card is connected with the router having 47% signal, maximum download speed from a disk attached to the router is 20kbytes/s. It should normally be around 1MMbyte/s. At least that applied with other distros such as a previous fedora 8 installed...Anybody having anything to advise?
[10:54] <maria> i read ubottu
[10:55] <Angel-SL> !build-essentials
[10:55] <gordonjcp> InfecteX: at 10:09, at 10:10 twice, at 10:25, at 10:33 and at 10:53
[10:55] <InfecteX> RIght
[10:55] <gordonjcp> InfecteX: you've pasted the same non-question over and over and over
[10:55] <remoteCTRL> maria: so? whats your question?
[10:55] <Nix3r>  i got struck by a virus while runing windows. and all my video / audio files were deleted. then i re partitioned all drives. any good utility to recover my data?
[10:55] <InfecteX> From 10.33 to 10.53 is a diference of 20 minutes
[10:55] <gordonjcp> Nix3r: not if you've repartitioned the drives, not really
[10:56] <gordonjcp> InfecteX: that's as may be, but sitting going "my Palm doesn't work!" doesn't really give anyone much to go on
[10:56] <Nix3r> gordonjcp i havnt formated them yet
[10:56] <Jurgen_> Nix3r, the repartitioning was too much... maybe (don't know for sure) Spinrite can help you... but not sure
[10:56] <Angel-SL> Erm, does anyone know what package was it to get gcc, automake and that stuff?
[10:57] <InfecteX> I changed my description so now shut up and relax...you are starting to pissing me off!
[10:57] <remoteCTRL> Nix3r: if you partitioned the disk you wrote a filesystem on it so no?
[10:57] <maria> remoteCTRL  shut up
[10:57] <Angel-SL> ........
[10:57] <Angel-SL> maria, they are trying to help
[10:57] <naftilos76> hi every body, i've got a problem with a pci rt2500 card. I've got ubuntu UE (same as ubuntu 8.04) and although the wireless card is connected with the router having 47% signal, maximum download speed from a disk attached to the router is 20kbytes/s. It should normally be around 1MMbyte/s. At least that applied with other distros such as a previous fedora 8 installed...To connect to the router, i'm using network manager. Anybody having
[10:57] <naftilos76> anything to advise?
[10:57] <jorge_> hi who i can install from cd
[10:57] <remoteCTRL> maria: ??? behave or leave
[10:58] <Angel-SL> If you don't want their help, fine with us
[10:58] <maria> Angel-SL  you are sillik girl
[10:58] <Angel-SL> ..
[10:58] <genii> I'm tempted to say that ted and ed are characters on the cd
[10:58] <Angel-SL> Does she think all of us here are children?
[10:58] <remoteCTRL> obviously...
[10:58] <maria> Angel-SL  i am 33 years old ok?
[10:59] <marco> remoteCTRL, tnks. just one more question. where do I get window decorations. beryl used to have a lot of them
[10:59] <kenkku> to quote austin powers: "oh behave!"
[10:59] <Angel-SL> maria: So?
[10:59] <Angel-SL> maria: Plus, I'm MALE, *****
[10:59] <maria> so i read this channel
[10:59] <naftilos76> Hello there! Can i interupt for a sec?????
[10:59] <Myrtti> eh.
[10:59] <naftilos76> hi every body, i've got a problem with a pci rt2500 card. I've got ubuntu UE (same as ubuntu 8.04) and although the wireless card is connected with the router having 47% signal, maximum download speed from a disk attached to the router is 20kbytes/s. It should normally be around 1MMbyte/s. At least that applied with other distros such as a previous fedora 8 installed...Anybody having anything to advise?
[10:59] <maria> i havent got a question
[10:59] <maria> ok?
[10:59] <bazhang> naftilos76, is that ubuntu ultimate?
[10:59] <naftilos76> yes colrrect!
[10:59] <boris92> could you go to PM?
[10:59] <remoteCTRL> marco you can download gnome-artng from: http://prdownload.berlios.de/gnomeartng/gnomeartng-0.6.0-all.deb or on http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=120x121&PHPSESSID=6c80619c6c652f3b4085ff17acd0e1a8
[11:00] <bazhang> not supported here naftilos76
[11:00] <Myrtti> maria: if you do not have Ubuntu support questions, this channel isn't for you. This isn't a chatting channel
[11:00] <naftilos76> ok thanks...
[11:00] <remoteCTRL> !patience | naftilos76
[11:00] <bazhang> naftilos76, go to www.ubuntu.com and get the real deal :)
[11:00] <Mikeh> i really need some help
[11:01] <Angel-SL> don't ask to ask
[11:01] <Angel-SL> just ask your question
[11:01] <remoteCTRL> !ask | Mikeh
[11:01] <marco> my graphics card is a nvidia geforce 7050. is it ok? how many memory does it have?
[11:01] <remoteCTRL> marco: never heard of that model...
[11:02] <Mikeh> I installed ubuntu, and I thought it would be best to install on my D drive because that way windows would be completely seperate from Ubuntu, not realising Ubuntu would control my D drive. So all my computer backups are located (or WERE) on my D drive, but I cannot access them. I fear Ubuntu wiped my D drive a long with all my web development projects and backups. Anyway I can uninstall ubuntu and retrieve my D drive files?
[11:03] <Nix3r>  i got struck by a virus while runing windows. and all my video / audio files were deleted. then i re partitioned all drives. any good utility to recover my data, i havnt formated them yet.i heard there are softwares that can recover from formated partitions too..?
[11:03] <kenkku> Mikeh: if your formatted the D drive, no. how did you install ubuntu? did you do it by booting from the cd or did you install within windows ( wubi)?
[11:04] <remoteCTRL> Mikeh: im afraid not, sorry...
[11:04] <Mikeh> i booted from the CD, within the demo of Ubuntu, and installed to the D drive. So windows loads fine, and is usable, except it cannot access the D drive
[11:04] <bazhang> Mikeh, was it wubi
[11:04] <kenkku> Mikeh: in that case, the files are gone, the partition has been overwritten by ubuntu, sorry
[11:05] <Mikeh> completely?
[11:05] <Mikeh> argh
[11:05] <kenkku> most probably
[11:05] <kenkku> we can make sure, just a moment
[11:05] <theclaw> My fonts in ubuntu 8.04 are too much "blurry", I made a screenshot here: http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8955/20080727115925614x111scvt9.png . Hinting already is set to "strong"
[11:05] <kenkku> do you have one hard driver or several?
[11:05] <theclaw> What to do about it?
[11:05] <Mikeh> i have two
[11:05] <remoteCTRL> Mikeh: bakcup for important data is crucial (just for the future), strongly urge you to do that
[11:05] <Mikeh> C and D
[11:05] <bazhang> theclaw, looks fine here
[11:06] <Mikeh> i always back up weekly on my D drive
[11:06] <Angel-SL> theclaw: Yup. Looks fine here too.
[11:06] <Mikeh> not realising Ubuntu would spaz and wipe the entire thing
[11:06] <theclaw> bazhang, Angel-SL: i want it more "sharpened", as far as I can remember it was a lot sharper as I used debian
[11:06] <remoteCTRL> Mikeh: in that case youre save:)
[11:06] <bazhang> Mikeh, formatting for any system would wipe it; nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:07] <Mikeh> but
[11:07] <remoteCTRL> theclaw: maybe try a different font?
[11:07] <kenkku> Mikeh: and windows was on another, data on another? you installed ubuntu on the second HDD by selecting the "Guided - use entire disk*"?
[11:07] <adityag> ﻿ i want to write a program to draw a circle, i have the code for windows, how do i make it compatible with linux ?
[11:07] <Mikeh> i did =[
[11:07] <theclaw> remoteCTRL: any idea which I could try?
[11:07] <bazhang> adityag, what language
[11:07] <Mikeh> thinking it meant it just allowed it as much space as it needed
[11:07] <adityag> sorry C
[11:07] <remoteCTRL> adityag: what programming language?
[11:07] <kenkku> Mikeh: then everything is gone. I doubt that any recovery tool would find anything, since ubuntu has overwritten several gigabytes
[11:07] <Abed> i want to update the aMSN but i am a linux newbie and don't know how to do that i have this file amsn-0.97.1-1tcl85.x86.package
[11:08] <bazhang> build-essential adityag
[11:08] <inik2> adityag: algorithm stay same but sintax differs
[11:08] <Mikeh> so can I uninstall ubuntu and get my D drive back?
[11:08] <theclaw> remoteCTRL: I tried server, it looks blurry everywhere I think
[11:08] <remoteCTRL> adityag: basically if you use the windows libraries from ms not compatibel...
[11:08] <kenkku> Mikeh: the data will not be recoverable
[11:08] <bazhang> Mikeh, no system format (of any os) will allow that
[11:08] <remoteCTRL> theclaw: dunno, arial, courier, etc...?
[11:08] <adityag> how do i know about linux;s library ?
[11:09] <bazhang> adityag, you learn :)
[11:09] <Mikeh> well i still want my D drive back so that I can re-download all my projects from my servers through FTP
[11:09] <remoteCTRL> :D
[11:09] <bazhang> !fonts | theclaw
[11:09] <Angel-SL> Mikeh: Boot up to windows, and format D:\ to NTFS
[11:09] <Mikeh> If i reinstall Ubuntu partitioning inline with Windows, will it leave my D drive alone, and still dual boot windows?
[11:09] <kenkku> Mikeh: if you want to remove ubuntu, just delete all the partitions it created
[11:10] <remoteCTRL> Mikeh: if you installed ubuntu with lvm you can shrink the partition, have a look into gparted
[11:10] <kenkku> Mikeh: you can alter the size of the ubuntu partition and use the remaining space to create a partition for windows to use
[11:10] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: and then use super grub disk to fix your mbr
[11:10] <adityag> bazhang: any references on the web pls?
[11:10] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: oh yeah, that too. or vista tools
[11:10] <bazhang> !compile
[11:10] <bazhang> hmm not that one
[11:10] <theclaw> remoteCTRL: it's the same everywhere
[11:11] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: alter IF you got lvm installed...
[11:11] <Mikeh> i know you can resize the partition when installing on the same drive as windows.. which will keep windows right?
[11:11] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: or if you boot into the livecd
[11:11] <remoteCTRL> theclaw: sorry mate but i cant recognize the cause for that, cos if it worked with debian it cannot be the monitors fault and ubuntu fonts usually dont ship blurry...
[11:12] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: you still need lvm then
[11:12] <Mikeh> so i need to restart, format my drive to NTFS?
[11:12] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: what? are you saying that partitions can't be resized without lvm..? :P
[11:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> i think i found the plugin i needed. but im going to test it out
[11:13] <theclaw> remoteCTRL: thanks though
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> Mikeh: take it easy there, or youll make matters worse! you can reinstall ubuntu when launching windows by using wubi, but you cannot install it parallely into one partition (wubi makes like a virtual pc)
[11:13] <blogi> Unable to start the network configuration tool.
[11:13] <blogi> Please setup sudo first! ----how can i fix  this?
[11:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> uh oh
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> theclaw: np
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: yes?
[11:14] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: euh, what exactly IS lvm and is it installed by default?
[11:14] <bazhang> blogi, what is the issue
[11:14] <blogi> my other network card wont work
[11:14] <blogi> my eth1
[11:14] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: lvm is logical volume manager and you need to specify that on installation and that is only possible with the alternate cd
[11:14] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: but why would one be unable to resize a partition without it?
[11:15] <Mikeh> I was just wondering if i followed the normal procedure, and installing Ubuntu along side Windows, making the ubuntu partition smaller than windows, would I be able to uninstall it later?
[11:15] <bazhang> blogi, still this? what exactly are you trying to do; you have never clarified that.
[11:15] <remoteCTRL> blogi try entereing sudo network-manager into a terminal
[11:15] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: I think there's some misunderstanding here
[11:15] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: afaik you can only resize a partition if you use lvm
[11:15] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, he's not sure what he wants to do. just a heads-up
[11:15] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: at least without loosing data?
[11:16] <blogi> i have two lan card...last time i ask for help its about the new lan card cant be detected but now i change the other lan card which can be detected now
[11:16] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: that sounds rediculous, I've resized loads of ext3 partitions with gparted from the livecd
[11:16] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: heh
[11:16] <Mikeh> you can resize the partition with the liveCD
[11:16] <blogi> but the problem now is that it cant connect to local even if i disable the eth0
[11:16] <bazhang> blogi, you have never clarified what you wish to do; please stop repeating the same without clarifying
[11:17] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: isn't lvm's idea that one can resize thevolumes while they are ONLINE?
[11:17] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: that is so if you resize a non root partition
[11:17] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: yeah, but you can resize anything if it's not mounted
[11:17] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: if you wanna resize the system partition you need to do it from a live cd
[11:17] <Dedoimedo> hi all, here to help, anyone needs help ...?
[11:17] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: unmounted only
[11:18] <blogi> ok.heres what im trying to do....i have 2 lan cards, 1 for the net(eth0) and the other one for local network (eth1
[11:18] <Mikeh> right im gonna restore my D drive and remove Ubuntu
[11:18] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: nope? not without lvm?
[11:18] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: why not?
[11:18] <Mikeh> thanks for the help guys =] I may be back for some more advice BEFORE installing
[11:18] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: cos you cant
[11:18] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: I had lvm on fedora once, I decided I hated it, haven't used it after that
[11:18] <bazhang> blogi, internet connection sharing, file sharing, crossover cables to do so or what
[11:18] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: seriously, whycould you not resize a partition if it's not in use?
[11:19] <remoteCTRL> blogi: have a look at the application called firestarter
[11:19] <remoteCTRL> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[11:19] <remoteCTRL> blogi:  you find that under system/administration then
[11:19] <blogi> if i want to go to internet, ill just disable it and enable local...just like windows
[11:19] <krazy-h_> I want that my terminal speech all the word i type in
[11:19] <bazhang> blogi, you are not answering my questions.
[11:20] <rinaldi_> Hi, I've been away so haven't booted up recently. There were over 100 updates so I clicked install but some gave 404's such as wine (from the winehq repos) and things like firefox and php5. Any ideas what's going wrong? There are about 25 files giving the 404's.
[11:20] <blogi> errr...my eth0 for internet (just for internet purpose) and my eth1 for local network (ofis related work)
[11:20] <krazy-h_> Can somebody help me ?
[11:20] <remoteCTRL> krazy-h_: try orca reader
[11:20] <bazhang> blogi, you are just repeating without new info
[11:21] <blogi> hehehe...im confused
[11:21] <Dedoimedo> krazy-h what do you need?
[11:21] <remoteCTRL> blogi: we can see that:D
[11:21] <bazhang> blogi, clearly; this is for file sharing or other
[11:21] <blogi> i just need my eth1 to be connected localy
[11:21] <simeon> Hey can anyone help me with one issue?
[11:21] <remoteCTRL> blogi: or internet connection sharing or what?
[11:22] <blogi> i inputed the right static ips
[11:22] <remoteCTRL> !ask | simeon
[11:22] <bazhang> blogi, answer our questions.
[11:22] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: could you tell me why gparted supports resizing for example ext3, even though it does NOT support LVM?
[11:22] <simeon> It's about making an external HDD to mount a partition on a defined mount point
[11:22] <rinaldi_> nevermind, I tried the main server and it's fine, looks like there's a problem with the gb server.
[11:22] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: nope that is news to me
[11:22] <blogi> my local connection (eth1) is for filesharing and accessing the network
[11:23] <bazhang> blogi, choose one: a)file-sharing b)internet connection sharing c)other (explain)
[11:23] <Dedoimedo> simeon u want to mount an external hdd ????
[11:23] <blogi> file sharing
[11:23] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: well, that is the deal :) you're probably confused because lvm allows you to resize while the partition is online
[11:23] <Dedoimedo> karazy-h what did u want?
[11:23] <bazhang> blogi, use samba
[11:23] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: which is naturally not possible with ordinary partitioning tools
[11:23] <blogi> where can i get samba?
[11:24] <bazhang> !samba | blogi
[11:24] <Dedoimedo> blogi sudo apt-get install samba
[11:24] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: is that true what kenkku says?
[11:24] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, about lvm?
[11:24] <bazhang> !lvm
[11:24] <Dragonator> Hello, I have a M3N78-EH motherboard and I found out that it is not fully supported in Ubuntu. More precisely, the SATA drives and the Network addapter are not detected and not functional. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/231159
[11:24] <Dragonator> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/231162
[11:24] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: about gparted being able to resize non lvm voumes?
[11:24] <spiel_mit_feuer> k
[11:24] <ynotest> how do i turn stop twinview from spanning across both screens >.< i used nvidia-settings to set it up
[11:24] <blogi> ok
[11:24] <spiel_mit_feuer> seems the icedtea java plugin works best for now
[11:25] <q_a_z_steve> so I'm not sure where the issue lies, but my qemu sessions (installed through synaptic) have serious trouble starting, I have to attempt like 5-10 times running my shell script before it will show the boot screen for OLPC ,img
[11:25] <Baby_Shambl3s> SNuxoll, the Nokia n-series have S60 3rd edition software am i right?
[11:25] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: also with nvidia-settings
[11:25] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: any experience there?
[11:25] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, possible but risky
[11:25] <ynotest> where about is the option?
[11:25] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: tanks
[11:25] <blogi> my eth1 will function now with samba installed?
[11:25] <Baby_Shambl3s> damn wrong place
[11:25] <kenkku> bazhang: risky? seriously, resizing partitions with a tool like that is risky? why doesn't it tell that :o
[11:25] <kenkku> or maybe it does, haven't used it in a while
[11:26] <drtorres> Any help to configure WiFi for Acer 2920z laptop
[11:26] <arvind_khadri> !wifi | drtorres
[11:26] <bazhang> kenkku, via gparted livecd you mean?
[11:26] <spiel_mit_feuer> hey.. if someone was willing to take donations towards a commercial advertisement fund to push linux as a major desktop operating system.. would anyone go for it?
[11:26] <kenkku> bazhang: yes
[11:26] <arvind_khadri> spiel_mit_feuer,  #ubuntu-ot
[11:26] <Dragonator> I started the liveCD with the parameter all_generic_ide and it sees the SATA drive but I can't get my network to work. can someone please help?
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: cant tell without seeing it i only got one monitor but it is pretty selfexplanatory actually...
[11:27] <julieet> ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i need staff local global and services admin for my server pLz come to our world register your favourtie chans tHkX
[11:27] <julieet> ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i need staff local global and services admin for my server pLz come to our world register your favourtie chans tHkX
[11:27] <bazhang> kenkku, if you know what you are doing it is fine; always a risk when resizing though and Mik-eh did not seem very well informed to recommend that
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> !wifi | drtorres
[11:27] <arvind_khadri> !repeat | julieet
[11:27] <julieet> ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i need staff local global and services admin for my server pLz come to our world register your favourtie chans tHkX
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> oops
[11:27] <bazhang> julieet, stop
[11:27] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: ﻿Please, can anyone help me with setting up qemu to share network between two sessions of olpc? Both have the same IP currently...
[11:27] <julieet> ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i need staff local global and services admin for my server pLz come to our world register your favourtie chans tHkX
[11:27] <julieet> ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i need staff local global and services admin for my server pLz come to our world register your favourtie chans tHkX
[11:27] <ynotest> remoteCTRL: o btw nvidia-settings give me this error :( -> Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[11:27] <kenkku> bazhang: I mean the *tools* aren't unsafe, right? just the user?
[11:28] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, too fast :)
[11:28] <bazhang> kenkku, exactly
[11:28] <blogi> bazhang: just finished installing the samba...whats next?
[11:28] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: you need to run it with sudo
[11:28] <kenkku> bazhang: that's what I was kind of pursuing. it's safe to do it when the filesystem is closed properly, not mounted and so on?
[11:28] <ubuntu_> ubuntu-de
[11:28] <bazhang> blogi, have you even read any documents, or do you need a live tutorial here
[11:28] <blogi> ohh...hehehe...sorry
[11:28] <ynotest> ah thanks
[11:29] <bazhang> kenkku, absolutely safe if you know what you are doing; though many users dont :)
[11:29] <bazhang> kenkku, especially the very newer users
[11:29] <Dragonator> Hello, I have a M3N78-EH motherboard and I found out that it is not fully supported in Ubuntu. More precisely, the SATA drives and the Network addapter are not detected and not functional. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/231159 I started the liveCD with the parameter all_generic_ide and it sees the SATA drive but I can't get my network to work. can someone please help?
[11:29] <remoteCTRL> blogi: you have a system/administration/shared folders, coonfigure that
[11:29] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: np
[11:29] <spiel_mit_feuer> dont use the regular gcj java plugin.. itll make your browser crash everytime you run into a site with java
[11:30] <blogi> ok...
[11:30] <Fritten> What network adapter is that?
[11:30] <gaelfx> has anyone tried using NDISWrapper to install ethernet drivers in AMD64?
[11:30] <Dragonator> the onboard
[11:30] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: sorry, but can you help me with qemu?
[11:30] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve, dont know much about it, but willing to learn
[11:30] <Fritten> Yes, but what manufacturer?
[11:31] <blogi> no shared folders under administration :(
[11:31] <remoteCTRL> Dragonator: difficult if not supported out of the box..
[11:31] <remoteCTRL> blogi: umm was it preferences?
[11:31] <bazhang> blogi, need to enable on the windows side; is that done?
[11:31] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, there is a tutorial for that... AFAIR
[11:31] <ynotest> woohoo i got it working
[11:31] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: hehe
[11:31] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: for ETHERNET drivers/
[11:32] <Dragonator> http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=2102&l1=3&l2=149&l3=650&l4=0
[11:32] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, which card??
[11:32] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: works as soon as you do it right eh? :D
[11:32] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: nVidia MCP51
[11:32] <Dragonator> it says Phy Gigabit LAN, probably from Nvidia
[11:32] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: need help with setting up qemu to share network between two sessions of olpc? Both have the same IP currently... Never can tell whether I should "bridge" or "NAT" and how to do that in qemu script... I'm pretty well lost. Look into it if you get a chance, I thought I'd try before going to sleep. Night.
[11:32] <blogi> i have a nose bleed here :)
[11:32] <jorge_> how i can fix the post-installation scrip
[11:33] <ynotest> remoteCTRL:  haha yep...
[11:33] <genii> jorge_: Edit it
[11:33] <jorge_> how??
[11:33] <blogi> remote: i have an option when i right click bout folder sharing
[11:33] <bazhang> Dragonator, how did you determine it is not supported in Linux? because it says vista/xp only?
[11:33] <remoteCTRL> blogi: in that case use that one!:)
[11:34] <Dragonator> no, i found a bug report here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/231162 and herehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/231159
[11:34] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, hang on
[11:35] <Dragonator> plus when i try to configure my pppoe connection it doesn't find anything
[11:35] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: k, thanks
[11:35] <genii> jorge_: locate the one you want first. Should be in some directory like: /var/lib/dpkg/info    then name of app here you want to edit script of       then .postinst       like xulrunner.postinst for instance
[11:35] <remoteCTRL> does anyone have an idea how to add more themes to gnome-artsng? speaking in terms of teaching it other sources?
[11:35] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: by the by, running AMD64 version
[11:35] <znh> Hello people. When I boot up my laptop is shows the progress bar as if it's shutting down (reversly scrolling).. how can I login to my ubuntu?
[11:35] <bazhang> Dragonator, you bought this already? and are using a router to connect to dsl modem or directly to dsl modem
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, :) yup i saw that... have you got the drivers with you ??
[11:36] <genii> jorge_: Once located open it with something like  alt-f2 gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner.postinst            and change it
[11:36] <tv7497> bazhang:  i screwed my comp now i am running from live cd :'(
[11:36] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: well, I have the drivers for 32-bit XP, but will those work?
[11:36] <jorge_> thank you
[11:36] <bazhang> tv7497, what happened
[11:36] <remoteCTRL> znh: press the "e" key when prompted the boot menu and remove the quiet switch from the boot command to see what exactly it does
[11:36] <Dragonator> I already bought this, i know i'm an idiot for not checking before i bought it. And my cable provider is also an ISP provider and uses PPPOE to connnect. But I only have a normal network cable in my home.
[11:36] <genii> jorge_: You're welcome
[11:37] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, i think they would... in the meantime search for the 64 bit ones
[11:37] <znh> remoteCTRL: i'll do that
[11:37] <tv7497> bazhang: i was editing some of the files to set up vlan as directed by some tutorial now my basic networking is not starting up
[11:37] <genii> jorge_: If you mess it up badly just remove and reinstall the package it belongs to again
[11:37] <Dragonator> when i run sudo pppoeconf it finds two addapters: eth0 and another eth0:a... something
[11:37] <bazhang> tv7497, does the computer not start at all? or crashes or what
[11:37] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: I found some here: http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/1-vt70968.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
[11:37]  * arvind_khadri looks
[11:38] <bazhang> Dragonator, avahi?
[11:38] <jorge_> ok
[11:38] <tv7497> bazhang: every thing related to networks fail starting from basic network to BIND
[11:38] <bazhang> tv7497, you had backups of everything?
[11:39] <tv7497> bazhang: no :'( thats the reason
[11:39] <blogi> bazhang: when i interchange my cable from eth0 - eth1 and configure them respectively my local network work perfectly in eth0
[11:39]  * tv7497 why do i tinker too much 
[11:39] <znh> remoteCTRL: after loading hardware drivers... it shows 'Terminating all processes'
[11:39] <Dragonator> but mine is 8 series
[11:40] <remoteCTRL> znh: tryed running in recovery mode?
[11:40] <znh> remoteCTRL: neg
[11:40] <bazhang> blogi, well you can do it that way, or do some reading and learn the new way; up to you.
[11:40] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: ok, well, right now I'm still downloading those drivers I sent a link to, and I'm in windows because my connection is crap in Ubuntu, so give me a few minutes
[11:40] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, take your time...but i cant promise you much of help
[11:40] <blogi> hehehe..i want to learn :)
[11:40] <tv7497> bazhang: any way i can fix this
[11:41] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: well, that's ok, I think most people here are probably ore experienced with NDISWrapper than I am
[11:41] <znh> remoteCTRL: ACPI: Critical... something
[11:41] <bazhang> blogi, that involves reading and asking informed questions based on that reading then.
[11:41] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: so anything you do would be considered help
[11:41] <Dedoimedo> tv74, mind repeating what ur problem is all about....???
[11:41] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, :) thanks...
[11:41] <Dragonator> so should i download those drivers and try again?
[11:41] <remoteCTRL> znh:  not good... try setting the switch acpi=off
[11:41] <bazhang> tv7497, it wont boot at all, or just networking fails
[11:42] <tv7497> bazhang: network fail i get fail everywhere coz i boot in text mode
[11:42] <Dragonator> NVIDIA nForce Drivers
[11:42] <Dragonator> Open source drivers for NVIDIA nForce hardware are included in the standard Linux kernel and leading Linux distributions. This page includes information on open source drivers, and driver disks for older Linux distributions including 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Linux.
[11:43] <bazhang> tv7497, not sure I understand; only network fails , or cannot get into desktop at all
[11:43] <znh> remoteCTRL: boots out of the box without acpi
[11:43] <bazhang> tv7497, what were you editing
[11:43] <tv7497> bazhang: i can get into desktop do all normal stuff cant acess anything releated to networks dont remember some files in etxc
[11:44] <tv7497> etc
[11:44] <blogi> # The specific set of interfaces / networks to bind to
[11:44] <remoteCTRL> znh: fine! then try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade maybe it downloads something to fix it
[11:44] <blogi> # This can be either the interface name or an IP address/netmask;
[11:44] <blogi> # interface names are normally preferred
[11:44] <blogi> ;   interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth0
[11:44] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=783452 follow this ...
[11:44] <blogi> how can i configure that?
[11:44] <bazhang> tv7497, no idea then? just randomly overwriting things?
[11:44] <znh> remoteCTRL: I nearly thought I broke my hardwarez
[11:44] <remoteCTRL> blogi: the ; infront of that imakes it a comment, remove that then it takes effect
[11:45] <znh> For everyone, 'Screen Resolution' shows up to 800x600 while 1024x786 should be possible. Is it possible to put it higher?
[11:45] <blogi> ahhh
[11:45] <remoteCTRL> znh: that is still an option i am afraid, changed something in bios?
[11:45] <tv7497> bazhang: i was editing it from a tutorial does i saved it as a book mark can i access it even if internet is not working in ubuntu
[11:45] <tv7497> /does/that
[11:45] <remoteCTRL> znh: sure, what card?
[11:45] <Dedoimedo> znh: yes it might be possible, what distro u r running?
[11:45] <arvind_khadri> !u | Dedoimedo
[11:45] <znh> remoteCTRL: nope, the last thing I did was give the laptop a hard shutdown while booting.. showed up with hibernating and flashed away
[11:46] <znh> Dedoimedo: Ubuntu 8.04
[11:46] <tv7497> bazhang: i can i think will be back sir
[11:46] <remoteCTRL> znh: what card have you got?
[11:46] <blogi> ﻿interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth0 ---can i change this to my own ip (172.16.80.74/eth1)
[11:46] <znh> remoteCTRL: trident
[11:46] <Dedoimedo> znh: have you installed any graphic drivers - or tried to?
[11:46] <znh> Dedoimedo: nah it came out of the box like thiz :D
[11:47] <remoteCTRL> blogi: well that would be precisely the purpose of it
[11:47] <bazhang> blogi, you did some reading? what are you trying to do?
[11:47] <Dedoimedo> znh: do you want to try to install drivers?
[11:47] <blogi> i'm not really know much of the programing side :)
[11:47] <remoteCTRL> znh: in that case just use the system/preferences/screen resolution menu?
[11:47] <znh> Dedoimedo: well, is it worth it :')?
[11:47] <blogi> i'm just a noob :)
[11:47] <znh> remoteCTRL: I did, showed up to 800x600 instead of 1024x786
[11:48] <Dedoimedo> znh: why not, if everything works out, you'll have 3d support ...
[11:48] <znh> Dedoimedo: it's an old card :)
[11:48] <remoteCTRL> blogi: as bazhang said already several times: you need to do the reading noone can do that for you
[11:48] <Dedoimedo> znh: how old?
[11:48] <bazhang> blogi, if you have no clear idea of what you want to do then you wont get much help; failing to read documents provided to you will only compound that and being new is no excuse for not reading and trying to learn
[11:48] <remoteCTRL> znh: you mean you set 1024*768 and it didnt change?
[11:49] <znh> Dedoimedo: unsure but it doesn't do 3D stuff
[11:49] <znh> remoteCTRL: nope, it isn't listed
[11:49] <remoteCTRL> znh: in that case youmight want to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add it manually
[11:49] <Dedoimedo> znh: option one is that you try to install drivers (via restricted drivers ... in the system menu) - this is the simplest option; option 2 is to manually reconfigure xorg, so if you want, try installing the restricted drivers first...
[11:50] <znh> remoteCTRL: meh I wanted to get used to the GUI
[11:50] <remoteCTRL> znh: do as domeido sais
[11:51] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: thanks for taking the words out of my mouth, hes a hard learner:D
[11:51] <znh> Dedoimedo: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[11:51] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, :)
[11:51] <Dedoimedo> znh: do you have anything listed? any driver, with the checkbox empty? do you have the ability to enable?
[11:52] <znh> Dedoimedo: doesn't list any
[11:53] <Dedoimedo> znh: then you might wanna try to manually edit xorg.conf  - first back up the existing configuration file sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup
[11:54] <remoteCTRL> znh: you will need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf with sudo
[11:54] <plague> Hi All - does anyone know how I can look at whats in a .mof file using Ubuntu 8.10?
[11:55] <remoteCTRL> znh: you have a section "Screen" in there
[11:55] <znh> remoteCTRL: it doesn't show any rows with 'Modes' or something like that
[11:55] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that plague
[11:55] <plague> ah - cheers
[11:55] <znh> remoteCTRL: yes, I do
[11:55] <Dedoimedo> plague: can you give a hint what this file is - or what it's used for??
[11:55] <remoteCTRL> znh: ok i will paste you something, just gimme a sec
[11:56] <plague> dedoimedo : I have no idea what the file is or what its used for, thats why I want to open it and see.
[11:56] <bazhang> plague, ibex talk in the other channel
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> znh: add this to your Sceen section(sry for flood):
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> 	SubSection "Display"
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> 		Depth		24
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> 		Modes		"1280x1024"
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> 	EndSubSection
[11:56] <Dedoimedo> znh: do you want to manually reconfigure xorg.conf? if so, first back it up as I've written above, second run from terminal windows sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it's a text wizard, please ask if you have any questions especially when you get to the monitor and resolution section
[11:56] <FloodBot3> remoteCTRL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> znh: oops replace 1280x1024 with 1024x768
[11:57] <hung> hello
[11:57] <znh> remoteCTRL: what was that keystroke to restart X?
[11:57] <Dedoimedo> plague: google says its a msinfo file, try a text editor??
[11:58] <remoteCTRL> znh: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:58] <Dedoimedo> znh: back your existing configuration file before any change!!!!
[11:58] <znh> Dedoimedo: relax, it's sunday for godsake
[11:58] <Dedoimedo> znh: your computer, your rules ... enjoy ...
[11:58] <remoteCTRL> Dedoimedo: he can erase those four lines without backup i believe:)
[11:59] <Dedoimedo> znh: just a rule when working on any conf file, especially in *nix, backup first, tweak later ... that's a healthy rule to follow, one, four or 2500 lines....
[11:59] <znh> remoteCTRL: hmm.. shows stripes instead of the usual nice screen
[12:00] <Dedoimedo> plague: did it work out with a text editor??
[12:00] <remoteCTRL> znh: now you know why its not listed: obviously not supported by the card
[12:00] <znh> remoteCTRL: it is. I used to have that mode in *nix
[12:00] <remoteCTRL> znh: how old is that thing?
[12:00] <znh> remoteCTRL: unsure - but it has ran Ubuntu and others just fine
[12:00] <remoteCTRL> znh: did you copy/paste what i pasted above or did you replace the values as i said?
[12:01] <znh> remoteCTRL: i replaced the values, it does show 1024x786 now
[12:01] <remoteCTRL> znh:  try setting the depth to 16
[12:01] <znh> remoteCTRL: changed the depth, wonder what it doe snow
[12:01] <blogi> # This can be either the interface name or an IP address/netmask;
[12:01] <blogi> # interface names are normally preferred
[12:01] <blogi> ;   interfaces = 172.16.80.74/8 eth1
[12:01] <znh> remoteCTRL: hehe
[12:01] <blogi> whats /8 eth0 stands for?
[12:02] <blogi> ﻿whats /8 eth1 stands for?
[12:02] <znh> remoteCTRL: same thing
[12:02] <remoteCTRL> blogi: that is called subnetting and determines how many of the 256 ips in that subnet are to be used
[12:02] <Dedoimedo> blogi: that's a cidr class, meaning only the first 8 bits of the 32-bit ip address space remains unchanged
[12:02] <blogi> my ip should be inputted there?
[12:03] <Dedoimedo> blogi: that means that you have 2^24 ips available for that particular subnet
[12:03] <bazhang> blogi, you are still trying that old way? better to read up on samba
[12:03] <blogi> ahhh...\
[12:03] <pobbel> Hello all
[12:03] <anubis5555> hi
[12:03] <remoteCTRL> znh: in that case try what the other guy suggested above: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:03] <blogi> still cant understand some of it :(
[12:03] <Dedoimedo> blogi: what are you trying to accomplish??
[12:03] <remoteCTRL> gaaawd
[12:04] <bazhang> Dedoimedo, file sharing
[12:04] <gfather> guys whats the best translater i can use?
[12:04] <blogi> trying to get my eth1 functioning
[12:04] <gfather> i want arabic to english
[12:04] <remoteCTRL> gfather: depends on what language to what other
[12:04] <bazhang> babelfish gfather
[12:04] <Dedoimedo> blogi: ok, when you type ifconfig -a, what does it say for eth1 , is it up, does it have ip??
 english to arabic
[12:05] <blogi> there are 3 of them
[12:05] <tingle> how can i change my username?
[12:05] <tingle> in ubuntu i mean
 babelfish is very good ?
[12:05] <Dedoimedo> blogi: u pmed so u wanna continue in pm or here???
[12:05] <bazhang> gfather, not related to ubuntu; you can try it and see
[12:05] <blogi> eth0 (internet) eth1 (local) lo (i dont know)
[12:06] <pobbel> I have discovered that I need to enter "iwconfig wlan0 essid any" before Network Manager will connect.  How do I automate this and will it work before I login?
[12:06] <znh> remoteCTRL: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg asks nothing about video settings, as I used to have in debian like distro's
[12:06] <Dedoimedo> for anyone who has pmed me, if u get your problem solved, please wirte down a short summary of how it went, so that others can benefit from the answer too
 oks
[12:06] <tingle> how can i remove gmd i would like to startx when im ready for it ;x
[12:07] <remoteCTRL> znh: uhh...*thinks*
[12:07] <Dedoimedo> znh: no video options in xorg configurations??
[12:09] <znh> Dedoimedo: indeed
[12:09] <znh> I forgot to mention but there is a checkbox with 'Clone screens' checked all the time - even when I manualy uncheck it and check if it's checked again
[12:10] <Dedoimedo> znh: strange, ill check 8.04 when i get home, at work right now - dont have access to ubuntu
[12:11] <znh> Dedoimedo: ok
[12:11] <remoteCTRL> znh: in that case you oughta have an according setting in the xorg.conf and also two screen sections?
[12:11] <gfather> any translater software ?
[12:13] <znh> remoteCTRL: nope, serverlayout doesn't access two either
[12:13] <remoteCTRL> gfather:  do sudo apt-cache search dict-freedict
[12:13] <tv7497> bazhang: ﻿bazhang: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/server.html#6  configuring vlan interfaces this is what i did
[12:13] <anduril-aka-IM-h> Hi folks,  i want to hereby call your attention to the upcoming international day against surveillance and data retention. The actions are planed to take place October the 11'th  . The official action site is http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Freedom_Not_Fear_2008 there you can find futher information about the actions planed; the supporting capitals and the official "call for participation".
[12:14] <tv7497> bazhang: can you do anything sir ?
 im new to ubuntu , whats that ?
[12:15] <remoteCTRL> gfather: what is what?
 brb
[12:16] <napsy_> Hello. Is it possible that I install ubuntu on my usb removable drive and then boot from it?
[12:17] <znh> remoteCTRL: is there a startup switch to disable gdm/X ?
[12:17] <jester_> napsy_: depends on your bios.  If your bios supports boot from USB, then there's some docs on that.  google "howto boot usb linux" is probably a good start.
[12:17] <napsy_> ok tnx
[12:18] <J3ff> anyone knows a cgiirc or a pjirc client that connects here?
[12:18] <jester_> napsy: oh yeah, add "ubuntu" to that search, and you'll get ubuntu specific guides, which will be much more on target for what you need
[12:18] <napsy_> excellent :)
[12:18] <znh> J3ff: http://irc.burngreave.net/
[12:19] <remoteCTRL> znh: none that i knew of right now, but you can of course look for startx and/or gdm in the /etc/rc#.d directories
[12:21] <remoteCTRL> *silence* am i offline or what?:D
[12:21] <unop> startx is not an init script
[12:22] <remoteCTRL> unop: dunno what the explicit script name for it is but i would surely find it if i looked hard enuff:P
[12:23] <unop> znh, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm stop 20 2 3 4 5 .  # this stops gdm from starting up
[12:23] <unop> znh, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove # somewhat the same
[12:23] <remoteCTRL> nice!
[12:23] <tre_27> remoteCTRL: startx is for manually starting X. if X is started by init scripts, a display manager like gdm, kdm, xdm, ... is used
[12:23] <remoteCTRL> tre_27: thanx for the info
[12:25] <Schoentje> i have an problem on installing ubuntu 8.04 on a computer from 1999 can someone help me plz?
[12:25] <Dedoimedo> schoentje: what kind of problem?
[12:25] <tre_27> Schoentje: how much ram does the machine have?
[12:25] <remoteCTRL> Schoentje: depends on what the problem is
[12:25] <tingle> how can i remove gmd i would like to startx when im ready for it ;x
[12:26] <Schoentje> i get an error that says themes sounds or backgrounds may not work correctly
[12:26] <tingle> how can i remove gdm i would like to startx when im ready for it ;x
[12:26] <Schoentje> 128mb ram
[12:26] <remoteCTRL> rofl
[12:26] <pobbel> ﻿I have discovered that I need to enter "iwconfig wlan0 essid any" before Network Manager will connect.  How do I automate this and will it work before I login?
[12:26] <Dedoimedo> schoentje: try installing xubuntu
[12:26] <tre_27> Schoentje: are you running the live cd or the alternate cd?
[12:26] <remoteCTRL> ﻿tingle:(01:23:30 PM) unop: znh, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[12:26] <Schoentje> live cd i quess
[12:26] <tre_27> Schoentje: the live cd will not work correctly with only 128mb ram
[12:26] <tester> hi there, my usual log in is nerfed, i can't start any applications in it :(
[12:27] <tre_27> Schoentje: minimum ram for live cd is 384mb
[12:27] <niklas> I want to start using iSCSI as protocol to store my files on a server in my network. I need help understanding what kind of hardware I need. I believe iSCSI only works for scsi and sas disks and not for SATA. Is this correct? Or is iSCSI not related to what disk I have?
[12:27] <jester_> yeah, don't run gnome.  128mb will be brutal torture on that
[12:27] <tester> i've created a new login, and that seems to work fine, anyone know how i can fix my normal login?
[12:27] <tre_27> Schoentje: you have to use the alternate cd (textmode installer) on that machine
[12:27] <remoteCTRL> niklas: you can use rsync instead
[12:27] <Schoentje> oh my dad has another 128mb ram
[12:28] <tingle> remoteCTRL: ty
[12:28] <honkyD> hello I have just installed ubuntu and am getting grub error 2 when I try to boot, how to fix?
[12:28] <remoteCTRL> tingle: np:)
[12:28] <mloskot> Folks, is there a problem with accessing packages.ubuntu.com ?
[12:28] <tingle> remoteCTRL: should i set /usr/bin/gnome-session in .Xinitrc? for startx?
[12:28] <mloskot> It doesn't load for me since 2 days
[12:28] <see-g> pobbel: it's probably a dirty workaround to a more elegant solution but you could try adding this to your /etc/rc.local
[12:29] <niklas> Also, I want a solution where I get more than 1 gbit/sec
[12:29] <tester> would really appreciate some help with why i can't start applications on my other user, feeling a bit desperate :(
[12:29] <MuLLeR[DQ]> hi .. is there a way to fix xen3.2 networking in hardy?
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> tester: what application and what is the error
[12:29] <laughtear> need help...
[12:30] <remoteCTRL> niklas: in that case you will need ultra fast harddisks...
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> !help | laughtear
[12:30] <tester> fyrestrtr, any application and there's no error, they just don't start
[12:30] <laughtear> !help
[12:30] <Baby_Shambl3s> !ask | laughtear
[12:30] <Dedoimedo> honkyD: is your nix installed on the same drive as the grub?
[12:30] <unop> tingle,  exec gnome-session   in ~/.xinitrc  not ~/.Xinitrc
[12:30] <niklas> remoteCTRL, that said, scsi or sas disks?
[12:30] <tingle> unop: ty
[12:30] <fyrestrtr> tester: give me an example. Open a terminal and type 'gedit' and hit enter, what happens?
[12:30] <tester> fyrestrtr, not terminal, not firefox, not sessions, i can launch synaptic for some reason, and applications that auto-started are fine so long as i don't shut them down
[12:30] <pobbel> see-g: Will this run before I login? and this will not work if I insert the card after booting will it?
[12:31] <tester> fyrestrtr, i'm on a different user login now and this one is fine - on my other login, i can't even open a terminal
[12:31] <honkyD> Dedoimedo, I have windows xp on a 20gig drive, then a 160 gb drive partitioned into 2 - ntfs, ext3 and swap. not sure where grub would have installed too??
[12:31] <remoteCTRL> niklas: you get an average of 65mb/sec with a sata disk so 1gigabit per second is per se not really posslible
[12:31] <tester> fyrestrtr, however, i have an embedded terminal screenlet that auto-starts, so i can tell you that if i type gedit into that, nothing happens, it just hangs
[12:31] <Baby_Shambl3s> tester: what permission ahs that user exactly and how did you create it
[12:31] <fyrestrtr> tester: this happened after you did something or just you were working and it stopped?
[12:31] <laughtear> one of my ubuntu has crashed on the other partition, and i can mount that drive onto this desktop. but i can't see my files in home directory to copy here and format that partition. what will i do to see my files and rescue them?
[12:31] <remoteCTRL> niklas: ans scsi is no difference from sas exept sas is hotpluggable
[12:32] <niklas> remoteCTRL, ok
[12:32] <Dedoimedo> honky, you need to tell me ... you installed it ... but it looks like it's on the second drive, while you installed grub to the mbr of the first...
[12:32] <tester> fyrestrtr, i had just configured it to perfection, was happy with it, and decided to install cedega
[12:32] <unop> laughtear, are you mounting the right partition?
[12:32] <tester> fyrestrtr, cedega for some reason also opened fine, i've tried uninstalling it now and that didn't make a difference
[12:32] <see-g> pobbel: /etc/rc.local is executed at the end of entering a runlevel, so it will run before you log in but it won't work if you insert the card after your system has booted up
[12:32] <fyrestrtr> tester: are you on your other account right now?
[12:32] <tester> Baby_Shambl3s, the broken user was created when i installed and had full admin status
[12:32] <tester> fyrestrtr, yes
[12:32] <remoteCTRL> grub error 2 : Bad file or directory type
[12:32] <remoteCTRL>       This error is returned if a file requested is not a regular file,
[12:32] <remoteCTRL>       but something like a symbolic link, directory, or FIFO.
[12:32] <honkyD> Dedoimedo, ook... sorry I am noob at this, but what do u suggest i do to fix it
[12:32] <laughtear> unop, hi... yes, i'm sure about it.
[12:33] <tester> fyrestrtr, the broken account has xchat on auto-start, so i can come back on that account and still talk if you want to do tests
[12:33] <unop> laughtear, did you setup that install with a seperate /home partition?
[12:33] <fyrestrtr> tester: sudo rm /home/yourbrokenaccount/.Xauthority
[12:33] <pobbel> see-g: Thanks for your help
[12:33] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: any hd that you want to access will never show in home, if it isnt in fstab it wont be mounted automatically menaing you need to mount it to /media
[12:33] <unop> see-g, it's possible that /etc/rc.local is run after you logon -- since gdm starts up much earlier
[12:34] <Dedoimedo> honky, you can fix it by using a very handy tool called super grub disk http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ boot the iso, boot from CD and fix the installations ...
[12:34] <laughtear> yes, i did so, but i used different user name and password (but they're also my own, if asked i could answer both)
[12:34] <niklas> remoteCTRL, 65mb/sec you say. I have sata disks at the moment ant gigabit interface. Transferring 800 mbit/sec with nfs between two servers. That must be more than 65mb/sec?
[12:34] <unop> laughtear, are you running an ubuntu session now?
[12:34] <remoteCTRL> niklas:  that would be 100mb and cole to a miracle:)
[12:34] <remoteCTRL> close
[12:34] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: i can mount it, and it's now mounted on my desktop, i can see the home folder in it, but i can see no files inside it
[12:34] <tester> fyrestrtr, there is no file .Xauthority
[12:34] <tester> fyrestrtr, or anything similar to that
[12:34] <remoteCTRL> niklas:  is it a raid?
[12:34] <fyrestrtr> tester: ah yes ... now that I think about it.
[12:34] <laughtear> unop: yes, this is also an ubuntu session
[12:35] <niklas> remoteCTRL, only software mirror raid
[12:35] <fyrestrtr> fyrestrtr: ls -l /home/thebrokenaccount and pastebin the result.
[12:35] <unop> laughtear, run this command and give us this url it returns.    which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  { mount; sudo fdisk -l; } | pastebinit
[12:35] <remoteCTRL> niklas: what sort of raid?
[12:35] <remoteCTRL> niklas:  ah raid 0?
[12:35] <unop> laughtear, if you setup a seperate /home partition - you need to mount that partition instead
[12:35] <honkyD> oook thanks Dedoimedo i will try that
[12:36] <niklas> remoteCTRL, No, mirroring. Raid 1
[12:36] <cwillu> remoteCTRL, (that would be raid 1)
[12:36] <remoteCTRL> niklas: yeah if the receiving side is a raid that is possible and i'd say just fine, wont get more out of that...
[12:36] <tester> fyrestrtr, http://pastebin.com/d5aacbf80
[12:36] <Dedoimedo> honky: excellent, report back if you succeed, write down the solutions so everyone can learn ... and if it doesnt work you can send me an email (my webiste is www.dedoimedo.com) or send me a pm at ubuntu forums, I'm a member there under same name...
[12:36] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: oh it is mounted weird someone earlier had the same problem like unop suggested are you sure it's the correct one especially if you have different partitions, also if you go other files in there or havent you could check how much disk space is being taken i.e. if the hd is 3GB and it shows that only 2GB are free than you know files are there which is a problem cause you cnat access them
[12:37] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: stupid idea have you tried ctrl+h
[12:37] <laughtear> unop: that partition is mounted now on my desktop. listen; i installed one partition ubuntu studio, and (just for trying) i installed another ubuntu onto the other partition (intrepid ibex which i'm now using to contact you).
[12:37] <niklas> remoteCTRL, Its not striped raid. When I send in 800 mbit/sec, the data has to be stored identical on two disks. No speed up here.
[12:37] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: i tried that (show hidden files)
[12:37] <cwillu> laughtear, what's the problem?
[12:37] <unop> laughtear, when you setup the previous ubuntu.   did or did you not setup a seperate partition for your /home directory?
[12:37] <niklas> remoteCTRL, With CIFS (smb) I get 240 mbit/sec.
[12:38] <fyrestrtr> tester: the same, but with -la
[12:38] <remoteCTRL> niklas:  not on a mirror, that is true and i guess its some 10000 or 15000 rpm scsi disks or what?
[12:38] <niklas> remoteCTRL, No, Seagate barracudda es.2 disks spinning at 7200 rpm
[12:38] <Baby_Shambl3s> unop, laughtear: didnt think of that but unop might be right if you accidently used the same home everythign got formated
[12:38] <see-g> unop: I assumed that it's ok to go for a coffee or so while the computer starts up, therefore rc.local would have been run by the time you come back ;)
[12:38] <niklas> remoteCTRL, Normal sata disks
[12:38] <remoteCTRL> niklas: wow i want those too!
[12:38] <tester> fyrestrtr, http://pastebin.com/d48cca08a
[12:39] <remoteCTRL> niklas: as said try rsync that doesnt need a server running and its small, effective, fast
[12:39] <niklas> remoteCTRL, I don't think its any special with the disks.
[12:39] <unop> see-g, there is no guarantee of that tho :) someother init script might have failed to return and rc.local might never get the chance to run :)
[12:39] <remoteCTRL> niklas: 100mb/sec is extraordinarily fast
[12:39] <laughtear> unop: oh my god...:S please listen carefully...:) i have 2 drives, and 2 ubuntus on each drive. one of them is working (this one) and other one is crushed (the other one). i need to get my files from the crushed one which is now mounted by me on this desktop, but can't see the contents of the home folder of that crushed partitions
[12:39] <niklas> remoteCTRL, You did not read my preferring. I said I wanted to use iSCSI.
[12:40] <cuak> is anybody can help me?
[12:40] <gfather> guys i installed ubuntu through wubi , i want to uninstall , and reinstall , but the uninstaller is not working
[12:40] <unop> laughtear, answer my question - it's not overly complex
[12:40] <gfather> what should i do
[12:40] <ottoshmidt> hi all, do you know any software to split video files (MPEG)?
[12:40] <Dedoimedo> otto try virtualdub
[12:40] <ottoshmidt> Dedoimedo, ok
[12:40] <laughtear> unop, sure thing, forgive me if i'll misunderstood because of my english (not my main language)
[12:41] <Dedoimedo> http://www.virtualdub.org/
[12:41] <remoteCTRL> niklas: wont work with sata
[12:41] <unop> laughtear, did you partition your disk when you installed the last ubuntu?  if so, did you create one just for /home?
[12:41] <see-g> unop: well ... there's always the possibility that the heavens fall down ;)
[12:41] <rockyrock> hi guys, I have no inetrnet connection at all in my Desktop PC "I'm using a laptop now", and I have Ubuntu 8.04 on my Desktop so how can i make update for the system!!! I can only use my laptop in the internet cafe.
[12:41] <niklas> remoteCTRL, I had ~120 mbit/sec when I was using default realtek 1 gbit network card in my server. I switched to a intel gigabit desktop card and it jumped up to 800 mbit/sec.
[12:41] <rockyrock> Do u have any solution for my prob?
[12:42] <unop> see-g, that possibility is quite low as compared to scripts failing :)
[12:42] <cwillu> rockyrock, you have two machines, and you only have access to one of them right now?
[12:42] <rockyrock> cwillu, yes
[12:42] <remoteCTRL> niklas: i seriously doubt that but if you say so...
[12:42] <cwillu> rockyrock, have you previously installed anything on the other machine (openssh-server, etc)?
[12:42] <unop> laughtear, run this command (copy and paste it in your terminal) , and give us the url it returns.     which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  { mount; sudo fdisk -l; } | pastebinit
[12:42] <Baby_Shambl3s> !internet | rockyrock
[12:42] <Baby_Shambl3s> !net
[12:42] <rockyrock> cwillu, now
[12:42] <Baby_Shambl3s> stupid bot
[12:43] <Baby_Shambl3s> :/
[12:43] <cwillu> rockyrock, if you haven't already installed openssh-server on the remote machine, you're out of luck
[12:43] <laughtear> unop: well, i probably partitioned my hdd as installing first or second one. but if you're askin' this: i have partition 1, and partition 2. i have and ubuntu and it's home folder on partition 1. and i have another ubuntu and also it's own home folder on partition 2 too
[12:43] <Baby_Shambl3s> cwillu: why hasnt he got internet on the other machine?
[12:43] <unop> laughtear, then you probably need to mount the second partition on the first disk. i.e. the home folder
[12:43] <rockyrock> cwillu,  what is openssh-server?
[12:43] <niklas> remoteCTRL, To get this even more complicated, I have all hard drives on the server encrypted with AES 256 bit. Still I get 800 mbit/sec. Kinda neat :)
[12:43] <cwillu> !info openssh-server
[12:43] <cwillu> lets you log in remotely
[12:43] <laughtear> unop: it's mounted, hello, do you hear meee???...:(
[12:44] <unop> laughtear, mounting the main partition does not mount the second. which is why /home will appear empty to you
[12:44] <cwillu> laughtear, check your pms
[12:44] <unop> laughtear, run this command (copy and paste it in your terminal) , and give us the url it returns.     which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  { mount; sudo fdisk -l; } | pastebinit  # i won't ask again
[12:44] <see-g> unop: then ... there's always the chance that a bag of rice tips over in China?
[12:44] <cwillu> (pm
[12:44] <laughtear> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30883/
[12:44] <rockyrock> cwillu, no I have no i don't want to access the other machine!
[12:45] <remoteCTRL> niklas: impressing
[12:45] <niklas> remoteCTRL, Oh, gonna take my last post in consideration. I don't remember if my speed test was with our without encrypted turned on. Well, I guess I need to do a new speed test. w8
[12:45] <laughtear> cwillu: i don't know how to check my pms in this xchat program (really)
[12:45] <cwillu> rockyrock, what is it you need to do?
[12:45] <rockyrock> cwillu, I want to make update to the other machine cuz i have can't reach the internet in my house
[12:45] <cwillu> oh, you want to download the updates, so that you can update at your house?
[12:45] <rockyrock> cwillu, i can reach it only in the internet cafe
[12:46] <unop> laughtear, what was that?
[12:46] <unop> laughtear, it's not what i asked for.
[12:46] <laughtear> alrite, you're having fun with me...
[12:46] <rockyrock> cwillu, yes i want to download the updates using my laptop in the internet cafe then install them on my Deskop PC
[12:46] <laughtear> unop: than what was it...:(
[12:46] <unop> laughtear,   which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  { mount; sudo fdisk -l; } | pastebinit
[12:46] <unop> laughtear, that there is all one command
[12:46] <cwillu> rockyrock, if you have the same packages installed on the laptop, then update the laptop at the coffeeshop, and then sync the contents of /var/cache/apt/archive/
[12:47] <laughtear> unop: ok, doing that
[12:47] <rockyrock> cwillu, i have xubuntu cuz my laptop is weak
[12:47] <nuvan> i've got an SSH server running on my ubuntu install.  i'm trying to use key based auth to simplify connection, but it's always rejected, saying "bad service request ssh-connection"
[12:47] <laughtear> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30884/
[12:48] <tingle> is there a way to easy set my laptop fans a bit higher?
[12:48] <ottoshmidt> Dedoimedo, there is no native version for Mac OS X or Linux of virtualdub :(
[12:48] <cwillu> laughtear, just run the { mount; sudo fdisk -l; } | pastebinit section of it
[12:48] <andersfeder> i'm experiencing lots of trouble with Firebox under Ubuntu recently .. the browser window hangs (and turns grey) sometimes for seconds, sometimes minutes, sometimes indefinitely ... what can be the cause?
[12:48] <see-g> rockyrock: hang on a moment, I know that it works, I just have to look up how
[12:48] <eth01> how do you check the temps within ubuntu btw?
[12:48] <eth01> (without checking bios, ssh for e.g.)
[12:48] <rockyrock> see-g, oky
[12:48] <niklas> I would like to see what network speed my network card is set at. How can I do this?
[12:49] <eth01> i'd love to know :p
[12:49] <cwillu> niklas, miitool I believe
[12:49] <cwillu> mii-diag, rather
[12:49] <chiyuchao> 居然没有人用中文
[12:49] <tester> fyrestrtr, you there still?
[12:49] <unop> laughtear, you are looking for the files in /media/kukurik ?
[12:49] <niklas> cwillu, mii-diag. Thanks
[12:50] <laughtear> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30885/
[12:50] <tre_27> eth01: is acpi on your machine supports it, you can do: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/temperature
[12:50] <laughtear> unop: yes i do
[12:50] <ottoshmidt> any other video splitting soft?
[12:50] <Dedoimedo> otto: virtualdub didnt work for you?
[12:51] <ottoshmidt> Dedoimedo, it's not for linux
[12:51] <Dedoimedo> otto: u sure??
[12:51] <jazzkutya> you can try with tine
[12:51] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: that command he gave you he wanted you to post the link that terminal gave you i tried it myself never knew you could do that
[12:51] <ottoshmidt> Dedoimedo, actually i'm downloading it yet
[12:52] <jazzkutya> but afaik virtualdub is mostly for avi files
[12:52] <ottoshmidt> but on web it was written so
[12:52] <jazzkutya> wine
[12:52] <ottoshmidt> ok ill try wine
[12:52] <unop> laughtear, are you sure you haven't got /dev/sda2 mixed up with /dev/sdb2 ..  ?
[12:52] <Dedoimedo> u can use wine indeed
[12:52] <see-g> rockyrock: would this one help you? http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/11/03/simple-way-to-update-ubuntu-edgy-with-slowno-internet-connection/
[12:52] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: sorry i could not understand what you just said.
[12:53] <unop> laughtear, sudo mkdir -p /media/sdb2; sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/sdb2; nautilus /media/sdb2
[12:53] <niklas> With mii-diag I can see that my computer is using 100 mbit instead of 1000 mbit as network speed. I have a 1000 mbit network card. How can I force it to use this speed? The network cable is cat6 and is connected to a gigabit switch
[12:53] <laughtear> unop: if i could be so sure about things i'm telling here, i would not crush my other ubuntu buddy. mean, i'm not sure.
[12:53] <inspyre> what about avidemux
[12:53] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: np
[12:53] <rockyrock> see-g, i'm reading it
[12:54] <zerogate> i want to see the immediate changes of a logfile (live). there is a way to do this, isn't there?
[12:54] <jazzkutya> zerogate: tail -f logfile
[12:54] <hateball> zerogate: tail -f
[12:54] <laughtear> unop: this is the other hdd (not partition) which windows installed. it's not about my problem.
[12:54] <zerogate> jazzkutya, hateball - ah, thanks :D
[12:55] <tester> if anyone can help, i'm still having trouble opening applications on my other user :(  fyrestrtr was helping me but he seems to have had a call from reality :(
[12:55] <unop> laughtear, on which partition was the previous ubuntu installed?   this one is running on /dev/sda1
[12:55] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: im confused you said 2 hds with ubuntu now youre saying one has windows and its not partitioned?
[12:55] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: could anybody give me an example for opening a folder as a root user, i think that could work, let me see the contents
[12:55] <cwillu> tester, is the other user still logged in?
[12:55] <Schoentje> can someone give me the link to the xubuntu install cd?
[12:56] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: nope no one would tell you how to do that
[12:56] <tester> cwillu, not at the moment
[12:56] <Dedoimedo> http://www.xubuntu.org/
[12:56] <see-g> rockyrock: that leaves us with one problem, though: how to get the updated packages lists from the internet to your desktop pc
[12:56] <tester> cwillu, i made this one to see if the problem was with the user or the system, this one can open applications fine
[12:56] <rockyrock> see-g, i haven't completed the reading, plz wait :)
[12:57] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: tell me something looking at this link http://pastebin.com/f332166e9 which hd is messed up sda1/sda2?
[12:57] <laughtear> unop, Baby_Shambl3s: okay, listen once and for last again please, here is total explanations of my hdd's...: there is 2 hard disk drives on this desktop computer. one of them is used by windows, so this is not our subject.
[12:58] <cwillu> tester, do you have a second machine you can log into irc with, or are you familiar with irrsi?
[12:58] <laughtear> unop, Baby_Shambl3s:... and there is another hdd (320 gb) and this is the hdd which has 3 partitions: one of them is for ubuntu studio, another is for ubuntu intrepid ibex, and the last one is for swap.
[12:59] <tester> cwillu, a) i don't, b) i'm not, but c) my other account can log into IRC because xchat is on auto-start.  Programs that auto-start are fine so long as i don't close them
[12:59] <laughtear> unop, Baby_Shambl3s: i have no problem with intrepid ibex, now using it to contact you. but the ubuntu studio partition has problem, can't boot (grup is out of order) etc.. etc...
[12:59] <tester> cwillu, do you want me to log into that account?
[12:59] <andersfeder> ﻿hello .. i'm experiencing lots of trouble with Firebox under Ubuntu recently .. the browser window hangs (and turns grey) sometimes for seconds, sometimes minutes, sometimes indefinitely ... what can be the cause?
[13:00] <cwillu> tester, first, hit ctrl+alt+f1, and then ctrl+alt+f7, tell me if you see a terminal screen, and then your test user session?
[13:00] <cwillu> (wait a few seconds between c+a+f1 and c+a+f7)
[13:00] <tester> cwillu, i do
[13:00] <cwillu> okay, then yes, go ahead
[13:00] <dns53> andersfeder try dissabling some of the forgery protection
[13:00] <tester> cwillu, brb as Lusule
[13:00] <cwillu> tester, just ping me
[13:00] <yago> hi all, does anyone has problems with KHUND?
[13:01] <laughtear> unop, Baby_Shambl3s: i need to reinstall ubuntu, so want to back my files up from ubuntu studio's home folder, but i can't reach them from here (other partition-not hdd) to get them back. because i can mount the partition but i can't see the contents of the home folder... that's the all situation i have buddies, please, this can not be that hard to understand and solve
[13:01] <cwillu> laughtear, sudo chown -R <username> /media/<wherever-you-mounted-it>/home/<username>
[13:01] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear: thats funny cause that link doesn't show a windows partition and if youre saying it is used by window that is wrong and explains why it is messed. /sdb is used by windows and why you cnat see your home might be because you have the wrong drive mounted, by what im seeing you have 3 drives and the third is partitioned /dev/sdb
[13:02] <dns53> andersfeder  under security disable tell me about visiting an attack site or forgery,  though it is not ideal to dissable this extra security
[13:02] <Dark_angel> :P
[13:02] <laughtear> cwillu: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GOD'S SAKE (or what you believe in most)
[13:02] <Dark_angel> proplem to linnux:S
[13:02] <jazzkutya> Baby_Shambl3s: there are windows partitions on /dev/sdb in his pastebin stuff
[13:02] <PsyChoSiS_> hey any1 know of a Mp3 ripper for ubuntu ?
[13:02] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear, i currently have all my three drives mounted and never had this problem
[13:02] <Baby_Shambl3s> jazzkutya: i mentioned that read my post again
[13:03] <jazzkutya> sorry started typing too early :)
[13:03] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: good for you buddy, however i can NOT
[13:03] <Baby_Shambl3s> laughtear, thats why im here thinking what could stop you from looking at your home in a different drive
[13:03] <cwillu> Baby_Shambl3s, his problem is that the uid on studio wasn't matching the uid of the same name on intrepid
[13:04] <unop> laughtear,  what does this give you?   pastebinit < /media/kukurik/etc/fstab
[13:04] <rockyrock> see-g, yes this is the only problem! How can we get the updated packages lists from the internet to my Desktop pc?
[13:04] <andersfeder> dns53: ok, will try .. thanks .. you owe me beer if i get phished
[13:04] <Baby_Shambl3s> cwillu: since i never had this problem how can it be solved
[13:04] <laughtear> unop: it gives me a quite simple "permission denied"
[13:04] <yahya__> hi, how do iset which driver to use fort my gfx card? I want to use unichrome drivers
[13:05] <newbe1> I want to check disk space  I installed ubuntu in a 30 gig partition   thanks
[13:05] <cwillu> Baby_Shambl3s, it's not a problem it's the fact that two computers don't necessarily have names that mean the same thing
[13:05] <rockyrock> see-g, do u have a solution?
[13:05] <PsyChoSiS_> Pls can sometell me how i can rip a cd to Mp3 format using ubuntu ?? or cant u do that with this OS...?
[13:05] <laughtear> Baby_Shambl3s: i know buddy, but i really got tired, i even think to wipe and go buy a silly game op sys..
[13:05] <unop> laughtear,  this maybe?     sudo cat /media/kukurik/etc/fstab  | pastebini
[13:05] <unop> cwillu, his problem is that that directory is empty - totally void of anything
[13:05] <cwillu> Baby_Shambl3s, sudo chown'ing the home directory to the uid used by intrepid fixes it
[13:05] <yahya__> hi, how do iset which driver to use fort my gfx card? I want to use unichrome drivers
[13:06] <laughtear> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30893/
[13:06] <Baby_Shambl3s> cwillu: see if i only know how to chown that way to ubuntish for me
[13:06] <newbe1> I want to check disk space  I installed ubuntu in a 30 gig partition   thanks
[13:06] <cwillu> Baby_Shambl3s, ?
[13:06] <Baby_Shambl3s> cwillu: nvm silly joke
[13:07] <unop> laughtear, hmm.   sudo find /media/kukurik/home/
[13:07] <PsyChoSiS_> So u telling me Ubuntu cant even rip a cd ?
[13:07] <newbe1> I want to check disk space  I installed ubuntu in a 30 gig partition   private message me thanks
[13:07] <yahya__> hi, how do iset which driver to use fort my gfx card? I want to use unichrome drivers
[13:08] <unop> newbe1, use the gnome-system-monitor
[13:08] <remoteCTRL> newbe1: df
[13:08] <tre_27> !patience | PsyChoSiS_
[13:08] <Baby_Shambl3s> PsyChoSiS_: yes it cna look at your menu under sound & videos
[13:08] <tre_27> PsyChoSiS_: install cdparanoia, lame and grip
[13:08] <Baby_Shambl3s> tre_27: he doesnt need to it comes with the system Brasero
[13:08] <newbe1> unop  thanks
[13:08] <maria> shut uppppppppppp
[13:09] <remoteCTRL> PsyChoSiS_: sure, sound-juicer can
[13:09] <newbe1> remote  thanks
[13:09] <Baby_Shambl3s> !language | maria
[13:09] <maria> zirt
[13:09] <maria> erenkoy
[13:09] <Baby_Shambl3s> bored
[13:09] <tre_27> Baby_Shambl3s: alright. i don't the ubuntu default install.
[13:09] <laughtear> unop: the last command you told, listed me the all files inside that drive
[13:09] <maria> Baby_Shambl3s  kill you
[13:09] <maria> :)
[13:10] <unop> laughtear, errm no. it should have only listed files in the home directory - unless you changed the command around.
[13:10] <unop> laughtear,   paste a bit of what you see there.
[13:10] <Baby_Shambl3s> tre_27: thats why you probably went pro and isnatll through shell under minimum install too pro :)
[13:10] <Baby_Shambl3s> maria: ha find me first
[13:11] <tre_27> Baby_Shambl3s: not just shell system here :) xubuntu 7.04 with fluxbox running instead of xfce4
[13:11] <yahya__> hi, how do iset which driver to use fort my gfx card? I want to use unichrome drivers ANYONE PLEASE?! it is urgent :S
[13:11] <idham> I've done updating hardy 64 bit on a MacBook Pro 4.1 and now my touchpad isn't working anymore, anyone can help ?
[13:12] <Baby_Shambl3s> tre_27: nice i wonder how many actually take out JWM from xubuntu i think its awful in it and not fast at all compared to puppy
[13:12] <chrisyagami> hola O_O'?
[13:12] <DINO_MC_47> ы
[13:12] <unop> laughtear, you still there?
[13:13] <tre_27> Baby_Shambl3s: JWM?
[13:13] <Baby_Shambl3s> unop: im sure he said something on the lines of clean install and going out if im not mistaken or read it well
[13:13] <tre_27> Baby_Shambl3s: the xfce window manager is called xfwm4
[13:14] <unop> Baby_Shambl3s, thats what i understand too and he's attempting to recover his personal files from the older install
[13:14] <chrisyagami> alguien que me pueda ayudar :S
[13:14] <unop> !es
[13:14] <newbe1> just looked at system monitor   what is Xorg    thanks
[13:14] <Baby_Shambl3s> tre_27: oh no wonder it was resource hog lol i just stick with JWM or flux
[13:15] <nich^> Hi!, is there a way to make the borders on gnome-terminal thicker? I always struggle to get the mouse pointer on the border to resize it :)
[13:16] <chrisyagami> hello, some people that help me T_T
[13:16] <jazzkutya> nich^: tip: hold alt and drag any part of the window
[13:16] <jazzkutya> nich^: with the middle button!
[13:16] <nich^> jazzkutya: awesome!! :)
[13:16] <Achoth> Hello. How do I use .run files (it's graphic drivers)?
[13:17] <jazzkutya> but agree visually it's a bit frustrating, the borderless terminal :)
[13:17] <TiredWolf> Achoth, i really recommend using the Ubuntu-provided graphics drivers instead.
[13:17] <unop> Achoth, chmod +x file.run; ./file.run
[13:17] <nich^> haha :)
[13:17] <unop> Achoth, you might need to use sudo as appropriate
[13:17] <Achoth> TiredWolf: Why is that?
[13:17] <Achoth> unop: Thanks
[13:18] <yahya__> hi, how do iset which driver to use fort my gfx card? I want to use unichrome drivers ANYONE PLEASE?! it is urgent :S
[13:18] <TiredWolf> Achoth: because 1) they were tested for Ubuntu 2) they're made to install files in the right places for Ubuntu 3) when you get upgrades (kernel upgrades for instance), the drivers will be updated too, instead of letting you with a blank screen
[13:18] <TiredWolf> Achoth: see also /msg ubottu latest
[13:19] <chrisyagami> em, i have problem with compiz fusion :S, see the screen blank :S when actived the effects
[13:19] <Achoth> TiredWolf: Alright :)
[13:19] <Achoth> TiredWolf: I've got ATi, so the latest drivers are tested on Ubuntu :)
[13:20] <TiredWolf> Achoth: also, if you didn't know how to run the .run file, then you'll almost certainly be in trouble at the next important upgrade. (which doesn't mean that someone who does know how to run a .run file ought to install the drivers like that, i don't)
[13:20] <Adondai> anybody aware of a RSS reader which syncs with Newsgator Online?
[13:20] <IndyGunFreak> !rss
[13:20] <tre_27> yahya__: which driver are you using now?
[13:20] <r0bertchik> Can anyone tell me what the difference is between "Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-virtual" and "Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic" (ie. the last word is "virtual" as opposed to "generic")
[13:21] <IndyGunFreak> r0bertchik: probably nothing to get your panties in a wad over.
[13:21] <yahya__> tre_27, VESA, it was elected by default :S
[13:21] <TiredWolf> Achoth, well is there any compelling reason why you should use the drivers from upstream rather than the Ubuntu package? if not, then why would you. if yes, well there's always exceptions
[13:21] <coagen> installing drivers with a .run file is usually a bitch because you have to do it manually each new release :|
[13:21] <r0bertchik> they aren't in a wad - just wanted to to understand the difference between the two
[13:21] <Achoth> TiredWolf: Now I know how to do it, so the next upgrade I'll be ready!
[13:21] <tre_27> yahya__: last time i checked the unichrome driver was not included in ubuntu due to stability reasons. thanks to VIA's insane information policy...
[13:22] <IndyGunFreak> r0bertchik: probably nothing that some extreme techie wouldn't understand.. i admit, i don't know.
[13:22] <coagen> r0bertchik: generic is for general computers, and virtual is for virtual machines
[13:22] <IndyGunFreak> well duh.
[13:22] <TiredWolf> Achoth: except next upgrade you'll be left with a blank screen, so unless you know how to redownload the driver using a text-mode-only interface from the web, tough luck
[13:22] <IndyGunFreak> i think he knew that much
[13:22] <r0bertchik> coagen - can you explain?
[13:23] <tre_27> !info xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[13:23] <Achoth> TiredWolf: That I know how to do, lynx :) otherwise I can boot into another OS and download it
[13:23] <coagen> r0bertchik: what part was not understood? generic has optimizations for generic computers, virtual has optimizations for virtual machines... i do not know what the specifics are
[13:23] <TiredWolf> Achoth: fine then
[13:24] <yahya__> tre_27, when i started the laptop is first notified me that it is using VESA and it asked me to choose manually, but i prssd cancel by mistak and now i cant find that thing again to set it to unichrome :(
[13:24] <coagen> Achoth: are you comfortable with the terminal? TiredWolf is right.. you need to be sure you can do an install with out X windows
[13:25] <tre_27> yahya__: back up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:25] <r0bertchik> Ok then - where does the Virtual boot menu item come from - since when you install by default it isn't there. Also - why would virtual machines be reading the local system's disk - wouldn't they be getting all their configuration information from the virtual hard disk?
[13:25] <Achoth> coagen: I'm trying to learn how do use it, so yes
[13:25] <Achoth> coagen: In the worst case I'll just write "irssi" and ask here
[13:26] <coagen> Achoth: then please ask specific questions as you questions so far are quite generic
[13:26] <TiredWolf> coagen, i don't really know either, but i may suggest looking at "cat /boot/config-2.6.24-19-generic" (or whatever is relevant to your kernel) to see the options it has been configured with. if you install both the generic and the virtual, then do "diff /boot/...generic /boot/...virtual" to see what's actually different
[13:27] <Achoth> coagen: I've just asked one question actually, about how to use .run files. The reason I cannot be more specific is because I am in fact a noob
[13:27] <Abed> i would to install a file it is a *.package but i am a linux newbie
[13:27] <coagen> r0bertchik: viritual boot menu item? you mean like the kernel selection? i dont know why its not there... i would assume it should be... the virtual kernel afaik was created for use in virtual machines with the jeos "just enough operating system" distribution of ubuntu designed specifically for virtual machines
[13:28] <coagen> TiredWolf: thanks, thats right thats exactly where to find it :)
[13:29] <coagen> Achoth: ok how to use them? you mean how to execute them? you can do chmod +x filename and then ./filename or just sh filename
[13:29] <unop> coagen, not all scripts will run under sh
[13:30] <Abed> ﻿i would to install a file it is a *.package but i am a linux newbie
[13:30] <coagen> unop: correct... so if that doesnt work then he must chmod!
[13:31] <unop> coagen, he must - he doesn't have to - he just needs to run it under the appropriate interpreter
[13:31] <Abed> ﻿i would to install a file it is a *.package but i am a linux newbie
[13:31] <ompaul> !repos | Abed
[13:31] <unop> Abed, consult the documentation that came with this file
[13:31] <coagen> unop: of course
[13:32] <unop> Abed, if you downloaded it from somewhere, check if the site/source has any documentation
[13:32] <n0gear> how do i get rainlendar to run at startup?
[13:32] <ompaul> Abed, I strongly suggest you follow the links ubottu gave as they will enlighten you a lot
[13:32] <des_> hi guys
[13:32] <Abed> unop ok
[13:32] <TiredWolf> Abed, which program is that by the way?
[13:32] <des_> is it possbile to connect ubuntu to an xbox 360?
[13:32] <supravat> hello
[13:33] <des_> apparently ushare can do it, but i cant install it
[13:33] <TiredWolf> des_: connect as in serve a media server to it?
[13:33] <des_> yes
[13:33] <wols_> des_: why not?
[13:33] <yoyoned> n0gear: at the start of what?
[13:34] <TiredWolf> des_: try seeing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media
[13:34] <des_> cheers
[13:34] <_606_> Hotite sosat'
[13:34] <TiredWolf> !english | _606_
[13:34] <n0gear> yoyo so it would start automatically when i bootup
[13:35] <_606_> Da
[13:35] <coagen> russki ludi izdes
[13:35] <TiredWolf> !ru
[13:35] <yoyoned> n0gear: are you using gnome
[13:35] <coagen> thx
[13:35] <milan_> exit
[13:35] <n0gear> i think so yes
[13:35] <coagen> haha
[13:35] <milan_> ex-caht
[13:36] <milan_> ex-chat
[13:36] <_606_> Chto hosh sosat'
[13:37] <yoyoned> from menu: System>Preferences>Session  under the startup tab, there is a place to add applications
[13:37] <n0gear> ok i'll try that...thanks a lot yoyo
[13:37] <_606_> Ili uge sosish
[13:38] <TiredWolf> _606_, #ubuntu-ru for russian, here for english
[13:38] <_606_> Y y
[13:38] <yoyoned> n0gear: ask again if you can't get it working
[13:38] <_606_> Hosh sosat'
[13:38] <TiredWolf> !ops | _606_
[13:39] <jpds> !en | _606_
[13:39] <TiredWolf> been there done that ;)
[13:39] <yoyoned> !ru
[13:39] <_606_> Sosite
[13:41] <laughtear> thanks everyone who helped, or at least tried...:)
[13:41] <bmg>  
[13:41] <laughtear> problem is solved
[13:42] <rizingdamp> Just out of curiosity I have seen Chanserv giving operator status to a user then removing it.......as in what just happened to ompaul.  Whats happening at that point?
[13:42] <jpds> rizingdamp: He asked ChanServ to remove his powers as they are no longer needed.
[13:43] <rizingdamp> ok ty jpds
[13:43] <jpds> rizingdamp: As per the op guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[13:43] <jpds> rizingdamp: That, or ChanServ doesn't like him.
[13:43] <rockyrock> guy plz give me a direct link to download wine for my Ubuntu 8.04
[13:44] <magentar> wine.budgetdedicated.com
[13:44] <ompaul> rockyrock, if you have a net connection sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install wine
[13:44] <rizingdamp> I have not so long ago made the switch from windows to ubuntu.  Although I am struggling with it....I like to just sit in here and gleen what I can from other persons questions.
[13:44] <Sorcererbob> rockyrock: apt://wine :)
[13:44] <rockyrock> I have no internet connection
[13:44] <Sorcererbob> ah, that makes it harder
[13:45] <Sorcererbob> apparently they don't host the current one on winehq
[13:45] <rockyrock> magentar, thnx
[13:45] <magentar> wine.budgetdedicated.com, rockyrock, but these are none official packages of the newest version
[13:45] <Sorcererbob> the newest one I see is http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/hardy/wine_1.1.2~winehq0~ubuntu~8.04-2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[13:45] <magentar> otherwise packages.ubuntu.com
[13:45] <rockyrock> magentar, do they have bugs?
[13:46] <magentar> hopefully less than the ones from the repository ;)
[13:46] <Sorcererbob> rockyrock, of course. Even the newest WINE does
[13:46] <Johnny> i installed xfce and its not in my gdm?
[13:46] <zvacet> rockyrock :http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[13:46] <n0gear> yoyo it worked...thanks a lot again
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> rockyrock: there's one thing you can always count on w/ wine, and thats bugs
[13:46] <rockyrock> Sorcererbob, so guys what do u suggest?
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> rockyrock: what do you want to use wine for?
[13:46] <magentar> it doesnt hurt to get the unofficial ones, and they work better for most applications
[13:46] <rockyrock> It's only 7MB!
[13:47] <rockyrock> IndyGunFreak, for Photoshop
[13:47] <pogay> Is there a "user-fstab"? The Idee is that every user may have differnt wishes to mount, or avoid automatical mount.
[13:48] <IndyGunFreak> rockyrock: thats just the wine package, hopefully you have the dependencies installed for wine, or you're gonna get stuck in dependency hell, w/o an internet connection(fun)
[13:48] <pogay> may be i't possible to include in fstab  a $user-fstab
[13:48] <yoyoned> n0gear: np
[13:48] <TiredWolf> pogay: you shouldn't stab users. but anyway, mounts are something system wide, unless you use FUSE which allows something akin to mounts without root permissions
[13:48] <Johnny> does setting up /home in a different partition cause things to mess up
[13:48] <jtravnick> rockyrock, why not just use gimp?
[13:48] <ompaul> rockyrock, move computer with no access to a place where it has access to get your wine set up
[13:48] <rockyrock> IndyGunFreak, are u sure that i will face depedencies?
[13:48] <Johnny> i installed xfce and its not in my log in
[13:48] <IndyGunFreak> rockyrock: i didn't say i was sure, but i'd bet its likely
[13:49] <ompaul> rockyrock, you are making your life very hard the way you are doing it
[13:49] <rockyrock> ompaul, it's a desktop man!
[13:49] <yoyoned> Johnny how did you install xfce
[13:49] <ompaul> rockyrock, and there are no heros when it comes to installing software - as for its a desktop I got 70 of them to manage :)
[13:49] <Johnny> apt-get yoyoned
[13:50] <TiredWolf> rockyrock: i'm a desklamp man
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> xfce wasn't in your session list Johnny
[13:50] <rockyrock> ompaul, but i don't have internet!!!!!!
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[13:50] <Johnny> nope IndyGunFreak
[13:50] <pogay> TiredWolf:  yes exactly- I' don't like the fuse drive in the fstab either
[13:50] <ompaul> rockyrock, funny that, I could have sworn you are connected now
[13:50] <rockyrock> ompaul, i'm talking from the cafe
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> weird.
[13:50] <Sidd> I am planning on trying out KDE4 in Hardy, would the crowd here suggest installing it using Aptitude in Ubuntu Hardy or using Kubuntu?
[13:51] <Johnny> kde sucks
[13:51] <IndyGunFreak> Sidd: i would suggest just not using it..lol, but to me, its either or, use aptitude, remove it when it clogs your PC, or use a live CD.
[13:51] <Sidd> Johnny: Why?
[13:51] <znh> Sidd: kubuntu-desktop as package delivers the same as Kubuntu's CD/DVD
[13:51] <yoyoned> Johnny a seperate /home partition souldn't affect it.  Have you tried loggong out and restarting gdm by pressing ctrl-alt-backpsace
[13:51] <Johnny> its intrinsic to its nature i guess Sidd
[13:51] <Sidd> znh: I'm planning on getting KDE-4
[13:51] <Johnny> yes yoyoned
[13:51] <Sidd> znh: Oops, I meant kde-core package
[13:52] <rockyrock> magentar,  guys can u know if i will face depedencies problem with the package that i already downloaded?
[13:52] <ompaul> rockyrock, talk nice to staff and get yourself sorted in five minutes rather than back and forth and back and forth, have a look at http://pool.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[13:52] <LordMetroid> How do I prevent the need to login everytime the computer goes idle?
[13:52] <znh> Sidd: perhaps on a clean Ubuntu Hardy (server installation) that might work out.. I would not suggest it on Ubuntu's default desktop installation
[13:52] <Sidd> Johnny: What do you mean? Is it slow or something?
[13:52] <IndyGunFreak> LordMetroid: system/pref/screensaver.. uncheck lock screen
[13:52] <Johnny> no its just a shit desktop enviroment
[13:52] <yoyoned> Johnny look in /usr/share/xsessions/ and see if there is an entry for xfce
[13:52] <magentar> rockyrock, i think you will do... you can look them up at packages.ubuntu.com
[13:52] <LordMetroid> IndyGunFreak, It is unchecked
[13:53] <Johnny> it looks like a cartoonist nightmare
[13:53] <Sidd> Oh
[13:53] <IndyGunFreak> LordMetroid: ?.. are you sure?..
[13:53] <rockyrock> ompaul, execuse me guys but i have a very very bad internet it always disconnects
[13:53] <magentar> rockyrock, it does not say there if the packages are installed or not...
[13:53] <LordMetroid> IndyGunFreak, Yepp
[13:53] <IndyGunFreak> Johnny: i totally agree w/ that... looks like something my 5yr old nephew thought up
[13:53] <Johnny> yea yoyoned there is
[13:53] <znh> rockyrock: you can avoid that with a so called IRC bouncer
[13:53] <Johnny> yes IndyGunFreak
[13:53] <Johnny> have you tried out awesome?
[13:53] <yoyoned> Johnny also try installing xubuntu-desktop
[13:54] <znh> rockyrock: pm me for more information as #ubuntu is offtopic for such talk
[13:54] <Sidd> XFCE looks like Windows 95
[13:54] <Johnny> http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[13:54] <Johnny> unless you configure it right Sidd
[13:54] <IndyGunFreak> Sidd: except it doesn't lock up, isnt' slow, and you won't get molested by viruses/malware
[13:55] <alex-weej> Sidd: and XFCE has a compositor... and looks way nicer... and you can move the panels... no I don't think it looks like Windows 95 at all.
[13:55] <Sidd> IndyGunFreak: Rofl, Windows 95 never failed on me, especially when it was on
[13:55] <IndyGunFreak> Sidd: lucky you.
[13:55] <alex-weej> Sidd: what do you want from us here?
[13:55] <Sidd> when it was off*
[13:55] <pogay> has anybody tried enlightenment. Is it easy to install an additonal Dsiktop manager (where one can choose from by login).
[13:55] <Johnny> in menu.lst what do i put vga= ?
[13:55] <Johnny> just leave it blank?
[13:55] <znh> pogay: yes. also E17
[13:55]  * Cinderella linux QQ ?linux PP? Xchat 
[13:56] <alex-weej> johnny: nothing. why do you need VGA options in grub?
[13:56] <TiredWolf> Johnny: what do you want to do?
[13:56] <LordMetroid> I have heard three explotions the last couple of weeks from my computer and today I noticed three capacitors that has blown open on the motherboard... Maybe related tohttp://www.areta.org/~lordmetroid/shot.png :( What ya think?
[13:56] <alex-weej> usplash should kick in straight away anyway
[13:56] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: well, one might still want to use the console sometimes
[13:56] <Johnny> because the terminal font is so big i cant see
[13:56] <Sidd> LordMetroid: Do oyu have an nvidia card?
[13:56] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: we have terminal emulators for that.
[13:56] <LordMetroid> Yes
[13:56] <pogay> znh: o.k. I will try it!
[13:56] <Johnny> i want to be able to see the command line TiredWolf
[13:56] <LordMetroid> Not overclocked though
[13:56] <alex-weej> johnny: gnome-terminal
[13:56] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: sure, and X never fails.
[13:56] <Sidd> LordMetroid: I used to have an nvidia card, and after I came back from vacation, it used to be normal for a while and then that used to happen, exactly like in that screenshot
[13:56] <TiredWolf> Johnny: what command line?
[13:57] <alex-weej> it doesn't... we have bulletproof x now :)
[13:57] <Vegombrei> hey guys is there a software for family tree etc ??
[13:57] <yoyoned> Johnny anwhere on the line that begins with kernel
[13:57] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: i'm laughing
[13:57] <Johnny> my boot
[13:57] <Sidd> LordMetroid: Does that happen at startup or after a few minutes?
[13:57] <th0r> Johnny what is the resolution of your monitor?
[13:57] <Johnny> tty1-6
[13:57] <LordMetroid> Sidd, Just one day when I turned the computer on, it all looked like this
[13:57] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: when does X ever fail? if it fails it falls back to a VESA mode
[13:57] <Johnny> not sure th0r
[13:57] <LordMetroid> From the beginning
[13:57] <TiredWolf> Johnny: then just hit ctrl+alt+fN
[13:57] <Johnny> how do i check quick
[13:57] <pdonor> Üdv mindenki!
[13:57] <th0r> Johnny well, can't tell you what to set vga= unless you can tell me the monitor resolution
[13:58] <Johnny> how do i find out th0r
[13:58] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: or it crashes the machine, or it keeps trying to load in a loop, or it loads with an awfully scrambled screen.
[13:58] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: so exceptional circumstances then
[13:58] <Johnny>   "1440x900"
[13:58] <TiredWolf> th0r: could always tell him to do "vga=ask", yet i'm not so entirely sure he needs any vga option
[13:58] <yoyoned> Johnny I use vga=773 for 1024x768
[13:58] <pdonor> MAGYAR?
[13:58] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: well, if X failing were a daily occurrence, i guess i would be on another OS already
[13:58] <alex-weej> GWOBDOR
[13:59] <Sidd> LordMetroid: Meh, I think it has something to do with the Nvidia card
[13:59] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: exactly. :P
[13:59] <yoyoned> grup vga codes http://www.mepis.org/node/2992
[13:59] <Sidd> LordMetroid: Oh wait
[13:59] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: that doesn't mean the command line isn't useful. ever done ctrl+alt+f1, login, password, sudo halt, password to shut down, rather than wait ages for X to shut down, uhm, "properly"?
[13:59] <EarthLion> hey, I just updated my nameserver /etc/resolv.conf  how do i restart the network card without rebooting?
[13:59] <Sidd> Lordmetroid: I remember a computer technician taking a look at it and there was a problem with the motherboard, apparently something had spoilt because it was too humid
[14:00] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: no. PLEASE file bug reports for that kind of problem.
[14:00] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: occasionally I ssh to my desktop to shut it down when I can't be arsed to go to it and hit the power button, though.
[14:00] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: what kind of problem? X takes its time to shutdown because it has to nicely ask all programs to stop. then if there's something unsaved, it has to ask you. it's doing its job.
[14:01] <TiredWolf> alex-weej: but *i* sometimes am just in a rush and need the computer powered off quickly.
[14:02] <gfather> guys how can i install ubuntu alone , not on windows , shouls i boot and install from cd?
[14:02] <hadeshorn> hey, my ath0 on my laptop has stopped being listed.. it can find lo and eth0 but ath0 has disappeared.. i cant ifup and ifdown it or anything
[14:02] <hadeshorn> any ideas?
[14:02] <bttb> Hi all
[14:02] <alex-weej> TiredWolf: switching VT and LOGGING IN and then issuing sudo shutdown -h now and then TYPING YOUR PASSWORD *AGAIN* is not quicker than System->Shutdown->Power Off
[14:02] <gfather> the thing im wondiring about , is that how can i boot between windows and ubuntu
[14:03] <fyrestrtr> gfather: by restarting your machine.
 i know that
[14:04] <jazzkutya> gfather: want to install windows after ubuntu? I advise you to get the alternate cd then in time :)
[14:04] <gfather> but does ubuntu installs a boot maneger , to chosoe between ubuntu and windows
[14:04] <znh> gfather: yes, it actually does :)
[14:04] <fyrestrtr> gfather: yes.
[14:05] <gfather> :)
[14:05] <fyrestrtr> gfather: as do most other linux distributions.
[14:05] <gfather> coolz :)
[14:05] <gfather> and if i formated windows after the installation that wouldent be a problem right
[14:05] <znh> gfather: at the end of the installation process it lists the installed operating systems. verify if your installation is listed before installing the bootloader though ;-)
[14:05] <cypherdelic> I got a mem-leak. Auto-hide of gnome panel causes the process to grow about 5mb when popup and again about 5mb when it auto-hide. On going, process never shrinks. Ubuntu Hardy 64bit, all updates. Compiz-off.
[14:05] <hadeshorn> wireless networking stopped working.. anyone ideas?
 i see
[14:05] <cypherdelic> Any ideas?
[14:06] <znh> hadeshorn: did any updates lately?
[14:06] <des_> TiredWolf: thanks for your help, works a treat!
[14:06] <hadeshorn> znh yep.. latest updates over eth0..
[14:06] <hadeshorn> znh, it just cant find ath0 now
[14:07] <znh> hadeshorn: try running an older version of your kernel. seems the update messed up the module for your wireless chipset
[14:07] <hadeshorn> znh good idea.. let me give that a try
 im trying to remove ubuntu from the add/remove program , but its not working ?
[14:08] <yoyoned> gfather: do you see ubuntu listed there
 yes
[14:09] <hadeshorn> znh! god call
[14:09] <hadeshorn> good call
[14:09] <gfather> i installed through wubi
[14:10] <hadeshorn> i went to an earlier kernel and wifi is back
[14:12] <cypherdelic> Is anyone familiar with gnome-panel major memory leak? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/229976
[14:13] <yoyoned> hadeshorn: I'm glad ypu got it working,  you should file a bug
[14:13] <znh> hadeshorn: np :)
[14:14] <remoteCTRL> gosh! my desktop is gone, how can i restore that?
[14:14] <remoteCTRL> also after restart
[14:16] <jtravnick> is there a way to get rhythmbox to play more random than it does out of the box?
[14:17] <TiredWolf> ... more random?
[14:18] <jtravnick> yea i have it on shuffle but yet there are some songs it hasnt ever played and some that it will play almost every time i start it
[14:18] <LordMetro> I hate being dissed
[14:18] <gfather> :S  , guys it wont get uninstalled
[14:18] <LordMetro> nothing is working beyond fobar
[14:18] <Kaja> That's the whole point in dissing - i guess.
[14:18] <enzotib> jtravnick: these are the pros and cons of statistics
[14:19] <shashi> I am facing a problem with DNS in Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If use any 32-bit browsers (flock,netscape,etc...) on a 64-bit Ubuntu platform, from the browser if i type any URL, then the DNS name resolution is not happening. But for 64-bit browsers this problem is not there. I think some library is missing in Ubuntu 64-bit. Anyone tell me what package do i need to install to overcome this problem ?
[14:19] <TiredWolf> jtravnick: well, randomness can very well result in that, you know, or it wouldn't be randomness if it played every track every time. however, it's possible that there is an actual problem in the shuffler, see bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bug/6297 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/138629
[14:20] <SidStudios> Does anyone here have a perspective of how FreeBSD compares to Ubuntu?
[14:20] <TiredWolf> !offtopic | SidStudios
[14:20] <SidStudios> TiredWolf: I'm on FreeBSD, and I want to try out Ubuntu
[14:20] <chi_> SidStudios:  ubuntu is desktop freebsd is server ... in a nutshell ;D
[14:21] <TiredWolf> SidStudios: ok, but it's not an ubuntu support question, and it's the sort of thing that often results in flamewars. given this channel has very many people, such discussions are better held in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:21] <bastid_raZor> SidStudios; grab a liveCD and try it that way.
[14:21] <yoyoned> SidStudios: det a live cd,  you'll not have any trouble
[14:21] <SidStudios> TiredWolf: Ok, thanks for the advice
[14:21] <znh> chi_: FreeBSD can be a nice desktop
[14:22] <shashi_> I am facing a problem with DNS in Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If use any 32-bit browsers (flock,netscape,etc...) on a 64-bit Ubuntu platform, from the browser if i type any URL, then the DNS name resolution is not happening. But for 64-bit browsers this problem is not there. I think some library is missing in Ubuntu 64-bit. Anyone tell me what package do i need to install to overcome this problem ?
[14:22] <chi_> znh:  and ubuntu a nice server? at least software is configuable in both  systems ...
[14:23] <znh> chi_: yep
[14:24] <A[D]minS> i want to list files which older than 3 days ?  -> find /home/hazem/* -mtime -3
[14:24] <A[D]minS> i want to list files which older than 3 days   -> find /home/hazem/* -mtime -3  " this command right" ?
[14:29] <FibonacciGold> Hi, can anyone point me in the direction of how I can monitor systems over the network. Say I want 1 computer to monitor 3 others (core temp etc), cheers!
[14:29] <TiredWolf> A[D]minS: not sure, the manpage is a bit ambiguous... i guess test it on a directory and compare with "ls -l"
[14:29] <jpds> !info nagios > FibonacciGold
[14:29] <Gillpy> FibonacciGold: nagios, MRTP
[14:29] <jpds> !info munin | FibonacciGold
[14:29] <FibonacciGold> jpds: Gillpy: Thanks, I'll check them all out !
[14:30] <Gillpy> FibonacciGold: *MRTG  , sorry
[14:31] <deanm> lo can someone direct me to a repository that has cmake? for hardy
[14:32] <TiredWolf> deanm: actually, it's right there in the main repository.
[14:32] <jpds> !info cmake > deanm
[14:33] <deanm> thanks I'll check again
[14:34] <woland> ubuntu-it
[14:38] <XiXaQ> There is a free software for windows that is used to make a cdrom from an iso file. Does anyone remember what it's called?
[14:39] <jazzkutya> http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[14:40] <XiXaQ> thanks jazzkutya :)
[14:40] <jazzkutya> i used this myself to burn the alternate cd to get back to my linux :)
[14:41] <luke_> hi there, what is the configuration application for kde4
[14:41] <XiXaQ> I bought myself a new laptop and it came with Windows Vista. I thought I'd at least try it out thoroughly before I discarded it. I have, and now I'm getting ridd of it. I'd prefer breezy. :)
[14:41] <luke_> i tried control center but it seems its gnome not for kde4
[14:41] <Kunalagon> hello, can somebody tell me what should I install to get alsaconf ?? I installed many alsa thinkgs, but there is no alsaconf
[14:42] <chi_> kcontrol @ luke_
[14:42] <jazzkutya> Kunalagon: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search contents of packages
[14:43] <luke_> cheers trying to install it now
[14:43] <chi_> ?
[14:43] <luke_> i need to tweak it to make it run a bit faster
[14:43] <chi_> luke_:  if you have kde installed you just need to type kcontrol in a console
[14:43] <jazzkutya> it seems ubuntu does not have it
[14:43] <luke_> chi_:  i tired but it doesnt work it wasnt installed for some odd reason
[14:44] <chi_> :D
[14:44] <antonsky> hey
[14:44] <antonsky> firefox doesnt work because i updated it
[14:45] <antonsky> shit
[14:47] <jazzkutya> antonsky: start it from a terminal and paste the results at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:48] <Kunalagon> there is no alsaconf in latest ubuntu version?
[14:48] <Kunalagon> And does someby know how to configure sound card?
[14:49] <jazzkutya> Ubuntu removed it stating that it is not necessary.
[14:49] <jazzkutya> according to a forum
[14:49] <ompaul> !sound
[14:49] <jazzkutya> Kunalagon: what do you want to configure?
[14:51] <rockenrola> hi, I have an eps file that seems to have some errors. I can't open with gimp, ghostscript or inkscape. Is there a way to correct these errors?
[14:51] <jimqode> rockenrola, eps files are text files. you could try to fix it by hand
[14:52] <rockenrola> jimqode: I have tried that. no success
[14:52] <Kunalagon> jazzkutya, I want to do seomthig like alsaconf, a can here sound but I cannot use mixer anyhow, sound level, mic level etc.
[14:52] <methodmarvel> I'm running windows inside virtual box inside ubuntu - do I need virus software on the virtual machine?
[14:53] <Kunalagon> methodmarvel, I think you need
[14:53] <jazzkutya> Kunalagon: i guess you should follow what ubottu sait about setting the mixer device in the mixer
[14:53] <remoteCTRL> damned this freakin gnome panel is comletely bogus!!!
[14:53] <methodmarvel> thanks kuna - I wish I didn't though :(
[14:55] <Sp0t> Hello all
[14:55] <simard> how do I setup ubuntu to boot into command line instead of graphical mode ?
[14:56] <jimqode> simard, remove the gdm symlink from  /etc/init.d/rc5.d
[14:56] <fyrestrtr> simard: install bum and then remove gdm from the startup scripts
[14:56] <fyrestrtr> simard: bum = bootup manager
[14:57] <rascal999> i'm trying to install linux but i don't have floppy, cd drive or usb stick, how can I do it?
[14:57] <jazzkutya> hmm... btw what happened to /etc/inittab in ubuntu?
[14:57] <simard> jimqode, fyrestrtr, thank you
[14:57] <jimqode> rascal999, you can install by network booting if you have a spare computer with linux on it.
[14:58] <jimqode> rascal999, is it a laptop?
[14:58] <jimqode> simard, no prob! have fun!
[14:58] <deanm> rascal999: install over network
[14:58] <Sylphid> I have tk8.5 installed to fill the xchat dependancy for tk8.4 but it shows xchat as a broken package without tk8.4 installed ... how can I fix this without installing tk8,4 (it breaks some scripts)
[14:58] <rascal999> its a computer
[14:58] <jazzkutya> or from hard drive... my favourite :)
[14:58] <rascal999> deanm: no other computers
[14:58] <Guest3821> anybody here?
[14:59] <remoteCTRL> can anyone tell me how i can move the items in the gnome panel please?
[14:59] <mahidhar_> what shuld i install to play video cd
[14:59] <jimqode> rascal999, if it's a desktop your easiest option is to get a cdrom from a friend
[14:59] <fredthemonkey1> hello. i am trying to run a program but it says:  error while loading shared libraries: libclanApp-0.8.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory . I know that this file is in /usr/local/lib (whereis says that). how can i make the program find it?
[14:59] <jazzkutya> remoteCTRL: right click on the item, "move"
[14:59] <rascal999> jimqode: i have ubuntu install cd in drive, but windows doesn't pick it up
[15:00] <jazzkutya> rascal999: you have to set the bios to boot from the cdrom
[15:00] <jimqode> rascal999, you should boot from the cd. set your bios to boot from cd-rom drive first
[15:00] <remoteCTRL> jazzkutya: oh my gaaawd i thank you so much :D
[15:01] <rascal999> jazzkutya: I have
[15:01] <mahidhar> how 2 play .exe viedo files ....... i m not getting it
[15:01] <jazzkutya> how old is your computer?
[15:01] <rascal999> 400
[15:01] <rascal999> 5-8
[15:01] <TiredWolf> mahidhar: ...?!
[15:01] <SP0t> anybody who owns a HP DV9000 laptop and got the cam to work?
[15:02] <mahidhar> TiredWolf, i m not able 2 play a movie cd
[15:02] <jimqode> SP0t, could you do a lspci and pastebin it?
[15:02] <TiredWolf> carrot is what happen when you let your car under the moisture without using it for too long
[15:02] <jimqode> !pastebin SP0t
[15:02] <TiredWolf> whops, that was for -ot
[15:02] <jazzkutya> rascal999: ahh it's hard to remember those times... it is possible that back then they were problems with booting from cdrom
[15:02] <jimqode> !paste SP0t
[15:02] <jazzkutya> there
[15:02] <jimqode> !paste >SP0t
[15:02] <TiredWolf> mahidhar: a .exe is normally a Windows program, and also, i've never seen a video in an .exe before
[15:02] <rascal999> jimqode: ok, thanks anyway
[15:03] <fredthemonkey1> tiredwolf: try wine?
[15:03] <mahidhar> TiredWolf,  its a video cd .exe plays withroxio in xp
[15:03] <bopferman> I am trying to install Intrepid Alpha 3 in a VM and it keeps failing.  Has anyone had success with that yet?
[15:03] <TiredWolf> fredthemonkey1: perhaps, yet somehow i woulnd't trust a "movie" in an .exe, even in wine... those if it's a CD, i guess...
[15:03] <luke_> i wonder wha tis wrong with kde settings the icons look massive and crazy
[15:04] <TiredWolf> !intrepid | bopferman
[15:04] <fredthemonkey1> TiredWolf: well theres not much that can happen under wine :D
[15:04] <TiredWolf> fredthemonkey1: it can if you drive
[15:04] <fredthemonkey1> lol
[15:05] <remoteCTRL> jazzkutya: the only thing that i still cant seem to move are separators
[15:06] <selocol> how do i copy and paste without a middle click mouse?
[15:06] <TiredWolf> selocol: most programs allow ctrl+c and ctrl+v
[15:07] <selocol> hello, im using irssi in urxvt in fluxbox. how do i copy and paste? tiredwolf
[15:07] <jazzkutya> remoteCTRL: you have to turn off "lock to panel" before and turn back on afterwards
[15:07] <InsomniaCity`> Hi! I've brought up an alias to eth0 with a different IP/mask etc, but is there any way I can automaically write that to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:07] <erUSUL> selocol: press right and left button at once
[15:07] <TiredWolf> selocol: or you can also set up X to use a both-buttons press to emulate middle
[15:07] <hugleo> Hello
[15:07] <Abed> can we help u hugleo
[15:07] <jimqode> selocol, select what you want to copy by dragging mouse. then click middle button to paste
[15:08] <jimqode> selocol, if you don't have a middle button you can click with both buttons simultanously
[15:08] <jazzkutya> selocol: pressing the 2 buttons at the same time should do a paste, but maybe it has to be set up in xorg.conf
[15:08] <TiredWolf> selocol: you can set up middle button emulation using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, although your terminal probably allows other shortcuts as well, but i don't use it
[15:08] <jazzkutya> :)
[15:08] <remoteCTRL> jazzkutya: i did and for all components, yt still i cant move that
[15:09] <selocol> jimqode, jazzkutya: i selected the text but pressing both buttons (left and right button on laptop) doesn't paste it
[15:09] <hugleo> When I press Alt + Ctrl + Fx to in a virtual terminal if I hearing a sound in x mode I stop hearing
[15:11] <fredthemonkey1> i am trying to run a program but it says:  error while loading shared libraries: libclanApp-0.8.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory . I know that this file is in /usr/local/lib (whereis says that). how can i make the program find it? <---- may any1 help me with that?
[15:11] <ph8> hi all, when i load file.php into gedit it doesn't recognise it as PHP; I have to turn the syntax highlighting on manually - does anyone know how to fix this?
[15:11] <needhelpwithmusi> hi
[15:11] <needhelpwithmusi> need help
[15:11] <needhelpwithmusi> with my sound
[15:11] <selocol> !ask | needhelpwithmusi
[15:11] <ph8> fredthemonkey1:  It's probably lookin gin /usr/lib - you should ask yourself how it got into /usr/local/lib in the first place
[15:11] <w8tah> ive got a small python script -- for conky -- pymetar -- not sure how to make it work
[15:11] <ph8> fredthemonkey1:  Creating a symlink between /usr/lib/libclanApp-0.8.so.1 and local/lib might fix it
[15:11] <hugleo> fredthemonkey1, locate program_name
[15:11] <fredthemonkey1> i compiled it myself
[15:12] <fredthemonkey1> thats why it is in usr/local/lib
[15:12] <ph8> to be consistent it's best to use at least --prefix=/usr and usually --sysconfdir=/etc i think
[15:12] <remoteCTRL> what software do i need i order to use screenlets?
[15:12] <HarpyFiend> i'm being attacked by raptors!!!
[15:12] <HarpyFiend> please help me
[15:12] <needhelpwithmusi> my sound is not working on my ubuntu, i have tried many different fixes, including installing pulseaudio
[15:12] <jimqode> !offtopic | HarpyFiend
[15:13] <HarpyFiend> jimqode im serious. i have no other resource
[15:13] <HarpyFiend> what should i do?
[15:13] <fredthemonkey1> ph8: you mean when i compile libclan?
[15:13] <HarpyFiend> please help me
[15:13] <HarpyFiend> it's serious
[15:13] <needhelpwithmusi> can someone help
[15:13] <HarpyFiend> i'm gonna die
[15:13] <Abed> yeah HarpyFiend
[15:13] <remoteCTRL> funny guy *rolleyes*
[15:13] <jimqode> HarpyFiend, please don't flood the channel with offtopic conversation
[15:13] <hugleo> remoteCTRL, screenlets, :)
[15:14] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: what soundcard do you have?
[15:14] <bazhang> HarpyFiend, not here
[15:14] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz, how can i check
[15:14] <remoteCTRL> hugleo: uh, thanx:D
[15:14] <needhelpwithmusi> it is built into my motherload
[15:14] <HarpyFiend> oh DAMN
[15:15] <HarpyFiend> they're on the last door
[15:15] <hugleo> HarpyFiend, stop
[15:15] <m0u5e> is there an ubuntu equivalent of windows' sfc /scannow?
[15:15] <coz_> anyone here real familiar with working with pastebinit?
[15:15] <jimqode> m0u5e, what does it do?
[15:15] <m0u5e> or, like an internal package integrity check function?
[15:15] <m0u5e> not fsck
[15:15] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz, anythiung?
[15:16] <m0u5e> anyone know?
[15:16] <XiXaQ> I downloaded and installed that software that the jazz****-person referred to, and now my vista system almost doesn't work at all. :(
[15:16] <m0u5e> XiXaQ: what did he ask you to install?
[15:16] <Abed> m0u5e scan now?
[15:16] <bazhang> !equivalents | m0u5e
[15:16] <rexus> hi guys, why in ubuntu 8.04.1, in /etc/hosts file, I have 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 ?
[15:17] <XiXaQ> jazzkutya, there you are. :)
[15:17] <rexus> !hosts
[15:17] <XiXaQ> m0u5e, ISO Recorder.
[15:17] <rexus> !/etc/hosts
[15:17] <keios> Need some help installing IBM Websphere on Hardy - anyone?
[15:18] <jazzkutya> XiXaQ: it workd for me on xp and there is something on the site about windows versions
[15:18] <m0u5e> XiXaQ: what wer eyou planning on doing? burning an ubuntu image?
[15:18] <m0u5e> XiXaQ: if that was your plan, i recommend imgBurn, much less painless, straightforward, and easy to use
[15:18] <XiXaQ> m0u5e, yes. I'm trying to get ridd og vista.
[15:18] <m0u5e> Abed: its a windows system file integrity check
[15:18] <XiXaQ> m0u5e, do you have a url for it?
[15:19] <guoyang> ubottu: very useful
[15:19] <m0u5e> XiXaQ: http://www.imgburn.com/ (google is your friend)
[15:19] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: could you paste the output of lspci on http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[15:20] <m0u5e> well, im not sure what happened (where in the logs would i find reveleant information) but my entire gutsy just turned black, and wouldn't restart X
[15:20] <m0u5e> err not gutsy, hardy sorry
[15:20] <needhelpwithmusi> 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[15:20] <needhelpwithmusi>  that is my sound card
[15:20] <rexus> hi guys, why in ubuntu 8.04.1, in /etc/hosts file, I have 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 ?
[15:20] <m0u5e> i could still access ctrl+f1, and the system was responsive, but everything just died or something
[15:20] <Stavroulis> hallo pals. i'd like to know if DELL INSPIRON 1525 notebook (windows vista version) is ubuntu-compatible. HARDWARE = CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 2.0GHz,2MB L2 cache,667MHz FSB - Monitor: 15.4'' WXGA TrueLife - RAM:  2048MB DDRII - HDD: 250GB - GPU: SHARED 128MB (i think so)
[15:20] <hugleo> rexus, aapche
[15:20] <erik_> Stavroulis, yes
[15:20] <bazhang> Stavroulis, what wireless chipset
[15:21] <m0u5e> Stravroulis: try a live cd :)
[15:21] <kristian1> Hi there, what ports should be open in Shorewall, when using postfix?
[15:21] <rexus> hugleo? is that because of Apache?
[15:21] <Stavroulis> m0u5e: I haven't bought it yet
[15:22] <m0u5e> Stavroulis: call and ask dell? they probably know better
[15:22] <needhelpwithmusi> jazzkutya, i found out my sound card
[15:22] <m0u5e> Stavroulis: or check their webpage to see if its "ubuntu certified / compatible", and check if other users have positive experiences with the model
[15:22] <hugleo> rexus, Here apache build 127.0.1.1
[15:22] <hugleo> rexus, stop apache and look if it's work
[15:23] <hugleo> *aapche server
[15:23] <m0u5e> Stavroulis: as a general rule, the only compatibility issues you'll probably run into are your ethernet/wireless, gpu, and extraneous miscellaneous stuff
[15:23] <rexus> ow.. then if my network IP is 192.168.2.5 , and some one from the same network want to access my computer how can I refer them to 127.0.1.1 ?
[15:24] <XiXaQ> rexus, ips starting with 127 are local to the computer. It means "this computer".
[15:24] <Stavroulis> m0u5e, okay pal ;)
[15:24] <m0u5e> Stavroulis: have fun :)
[15:24] <amenado> rexus-> 127.0.0.1 is localhost only..on each machine
[15:24] <XiXaQ> rexus, that is, if you ask someone else to connect to your 127.0.0.1, then you're really asking them to connect to their own computer.
[15:24] <m0u5e> rexus: are they trying to ssh in? or access shares?
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> hello everyone, i have no sound on my box. however, on my vista booted side, sound is working fine
[15:25] <rexus> no no XiXaQ, not like that...
[15:25] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: ls -l /proc/asound
[15:25] <amenado> rexus-> the 127.0.1.1 is a new fangled thing that ubuntud did, and not reachable from another host
[15:25] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: use paste.ubuntu.com please
[15:25] <hugleo> rexus, It's like 127.0.1.1
[15:25] <rexus> I configured virtual hosts
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> total 0
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> dr-xr-xr-x 6 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 card0
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 card1
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 cards
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 devices
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 hwdep
[15:25] <m0u5e> needhelpwithmusi: have you checked your pcm levels? anything muted, etc?
[15:25] <FloodBot3> needhelpwithmusi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:25] <needhelpwithmusi> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-27 10:25 modules
[15:25] <rexus> in the other computer, I set their /etc/hosts so when they type www.testproject.wii , they will see my page
[15:25] <bazhang> needhelpwithmusi, paste.ubuntu.com not here
[15:25] <m0u5e> __6;
[15:26] <m0u5e> its too late, he got banned lol
[15:26] <rexus> the same page as the local one...
[15:27] <m0u5e> does dell have an "official" irc channel?
[15:27] <XiXaQ> rexus, http://127.0.0.1 <-- All users that opens that url will be pointed to their own computer.
[15:27] <m0u5e> or an ubuntu "dell" channel?
[15:27] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz, i posted
[15:27] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: after posting you should have got a link, copy that here
[15:28] <hugleo> rexus, I you want other machine access you must use lan address
[15:28] <hugleo> rexus, 192.168.x.x
[15:28] <raziel_> hello everyone
[15:28] <m0u5e> so does anyone know if there is a way to check package integrity?
[15:28] <rexus> ok ok hugleo, wait wait
[15:28] <rexus> let me explain
[15:28] <rexus> I know exactly what you mean...
[15:29] <rexus> I have 2 computers, compu A and compu B
[15:29] <dfgas> any idea why my printers don't show up under samba?
[15:29] <needhelpwithmusi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/30924/
[15:29] <rexus> compu A IP is 192.168.2.5
[15:29] <rexus> compu B IP is 192.168.2.5
[15:29] <rexus> in compu A I installed Apache
[15:29] <needhelpwithmusi> mouse, i don't anything muted
[15:29] <rexus> with virtual host named with www.testproject.wii
[15:29] <m0u5e> like.. hashes generated for executable binary blobs and libraries based on ubuntu's repos, that can be used for repairing corrupted installs?
[15:30] <amenado> rexus-> are you trying to create a cluster?
[15:30] <Typhon> How can I disable some of the Window shortcuts? I am using blender and I cant use some of the features.
[15:30] <rexus> in compu B I setup the /etc/hosts  like 192.168.2.5   www.testproject.wii
[15:30] <m0u5e> Typhon :(, i wish i knew the answer to that
[15:30] <amenado> rexus it is not a wise idea to have two devices in same network to have same addresses
[15:30] <rexus> no amenado, I'm not creating a cluster
[15:30] <m0u5e> Typon: i wish applications just overrode global settings when focused
[15:30] <unavailable> still having a problem with three of my screenlets not autostarting at login
[15:31] <m0u5e> Typhon: *
[15:31] <rexus> amenado, I don't use same address in the same network
[15:31] <rexus> that is my etc/hosts file
[15:31] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: ok, now again with paste.ubuntu.com: sudo lsmod|fgrep snd_
[15:32] <m0u5e> unavailable: did you set them to "autostart at bootup" ?
[15:32] <unavailable> yep
[15:32] <unavailable> sure did, but they dont
[15:32] <hugleo> rexus, What are you do?
[15:32] <m0u5e> unavailabe: i assume your on hardy?
[15:32] <needhelpwithmusi> jazzkutya: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30926/
[15:32] <rexus> hugleo, did you get what I mean?
[15:33] <unavailable> m0u5e:  also i have eight total running right now, but only four show up in sessions
[15:33] <Typhon> m0u5e: I think I found a solution: open terminal and type "gconf-editor", enter apps/metacity/general and modify "mouse_button_modifier" prop
[15:33] <m0u5e> unavailabe: in my experience, sometimes screenlets breaks, just re-activate the screenlet to fix the problem
[15:33] <unavailable> m0u5e:  tried many times
[15:33] <m0u5e> Typhon: thats kinda a lengthy solution though? :X
[15:33] <unavailable> m0u5e:  didnt work
[15:33] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: do you have a speaker connected to your pc with an usb cable?
[15:33] <m0u5e> unavailabe: try reinstalling screenlets? sudo apt-get --purge remove screenlets
[15:34] <m0u5e> Typhon: you would have to change it back after your done using the program though right?
[15:34] <needhelpwithmusi> i used to have headphones that were usb
[15:34] <jazzkutya> it seems it is still plugged in
[15:34] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: however, now i am using normal headphones
[15:34] <unavailable> m0u5e:   also, these show up in sessions :   digiclock, myip, ringsensors, and windowslist         these dont but are running     mainmenu, volumecontrol, trash
[15:34] <m0u5e> Typhon: i think a smarter way would just for applications to override global shortcut settings by default, while in the application
[15:34] <bazhang> m0u5e, typhon quit
[15:35] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: so how can we unplug it?
[15:35] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: just pull the plug :)
[15:35] <hugleo> rexus, yes:  www.testproject.wii, redirect to machine 192.168.2.5
[15:35] <m0u5e> unavailabe: make sure you've configured the screenlets correctly, are they stickied, widgets, etc... if you're using compiz, try pressing f9 to see if they show up
[15:35] <m0u5e> bazhang: -___-;
[15:35] <jazzkutya> but maybe it is enough to set up sounds in system/preferences/sound
[15:35] <jflower> hello, any chance someone can help me with desktop effects on a GeForce FX 5500?
[15:35] <m0u5e> unavailable: they'll disappear until you press f9 if your compiz widget layer plugin is enabled
[15:36] <rexus> hugleo, correct
[15:36] <unavailable> m0u5e:  i have none of them set as widgit
[15:36] <icewaterman> hi, any idea how i can debug suspend-to-disk not working (suspend-to-ram works just fine)
[15:36] <rexus> hugleo and it is happening in Compu B
[15:36] <unavailable> m0u5e:   none at all, even the ones that do autostart
[15:36] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: i have all features to pulseaudio sound server
[15:36] <icewaterman> or it is more like resume does crash the box, but it starts resuming (just is unsuccessful)
[15:36] <m0u5e> jflower: just go ahead and ask, if no one knows here, try compiz-fusion (if its compiz effects your asking about) :)
[15:37] <m0u5e> unavailabe: have you tried reinstalling?
[15:37] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: i'd better use plain alsa insted, i don't know pulseaudio buy maybe someone else can help you
[15:37] <m0u5e> unavailable: try reinstalling, and deleting wherever the screenlet config files are stored, that way you have a clean install and no old config files
[15:37] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: but if the headphones are still plugged in you should check if it has any sound
[15:37] <needhelpwithmusi> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application.
[15:37] <unavailable> m0u5e:  and widgit layer is not running     and yes i have reinstalled many times as well
[15:37] <rexus> hugleo, read this http://paste.ubuntu.com/30928/
[15:37] <m0u5e> jazzkutya: pulse was supposed to be a fix for our audio problems... i dont think it did much :/
[15:38] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: my headphones work when i log in to Vista
[15:38] <unavailable> m0u5e:  i even purged twice
[15:38] <jazzkutya> m0u5e: i stick to alsa dmix (when not using sblive with hardware mixing), my new machine is strong enough for this
[15:38] <jflower> I'm after nVIDIA drivers that'll allow me to enable "Desktop Effects" under System -> Appearance. I've tried the ones which Ubuntu and EnvyNG download for me, but they don't seem to function correctly since they cause the desktop colours to be wrong, and result in screen resolutions which I can't change.
[15:39] <chi_> hi hu jo, HEADSET in WINE ??????? possible task?
[15:39] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: i see pulseaudio keeps it used. change back to pulseaudio, and ask another question about configuring pulseuadio to use the correct card
[15:39] <kthyonmachine> hola
[15:39] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30929/
[15:39] <m0u5e> unavailable: check ~/.screenlets
[15:40] <jazzkutya> needhelpwithmusi: you will have to log out and log back in or maybe full restart
[15:40] <kthyonmachine> nesesito saber como instalo c++ en mi ubuntu
[15:40] <m0u5e> unavailabe: or wherever the config files are... they may be interfering with your new install
[15:40] <unavailable> m0u5e:   for??
[15:40] <m0u5e> unavilabe: also sudo apt-get clean, so that you purge your old downloaded deb packages
[15:40] <kthyonmachine> i dont speack in english
[15:40] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: will do now
[15:40] <needhelpwithmusi> be right back
[15:40] <m0u5e> unavailable: you could be installing a corrupt package multiple times
[15:40] <kthyonmachine> only speack spanish
[15:40] <bazhang> kthyonmachine, what language is your native language
[15:40] <bazhang> !es | kthyonmachine
[15:41] <kthyonmachine> i speack in english
[15:41] <m0u5e> unavailable: sorry thats all I know :(, keep asking around, hopefully someone who knows more about screenlets can help you if that doesn'tw ork
[15:41] <unavailable> m0u5e:  im installing 0.1.2-1 hardy1
[15:41] <kthyonmachine> help me  install to c++ in ubuntu 8.04
[15:42] <kthyonmachine> i program in c++
[15:42] <kthyonmachine> please
[15:42] <Gillpy> kthyonmachine: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:42] <jazzkutya> kthakore: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/programming/C/build-essential.html
[15:42] <elexodus> HELP! Root protection is locking me out of my largest drive partician!
[15:42] <kthyonmachine> ya lo hice
[15:42] <unavailable> !enter | kthyonmachine
[15:42] <chi_> g++ is not installed ?
[15:42] <chi_> install build-essentials then ?
[15:43] <m0u5e> unavailable: is that a hardy-proposed package?
[15:43] <kthyonmachine> i install
[15:43] <Jaymac> kthyonmachine: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:43] <davidschles> I have a question about ubuntu partitioning if someone can help?
[15:43] <elexodus> Root protection is locking me out of my largest drive partician! All my movies and pr0n are being locked up!
[15:43] <elexodus> please help!
[15:43] <unavailable> m0u5e:  backport but thats an update because the others do the same
[15:44] <Gillpy> !repeat > elexodus
[15:44] <unavailable> m0u5e:  then i clean installed
[15:44] <kthyonmachine> Already I did it
[15:44] <kthyonmachine> i dont install
[15:44] <Gillpy> kthyonmachine: what is your problem ?
[15:44] <kthyonmachine> no istall the pagkage
[15:45] <m0u5e> unavailable: huh -_-;
[15:45] <Jaymac> kthyonmachine: you are not making much sense, perhaps it would be better to ask the question in #ubuntu-es in Spanish?
[15:45] <unavailable> m0u5e:  ok
[15:45] <salil> Hello , when i typed in the terminal : sudo apt-get install build-essential , the ubuntu ask for the installation cd , does it possible to install this package without the cd ?
[15:45] <unavailable> m0u5e:  i installed the one in the repos, it didnt work right, so i updated to the backport
[15:46] <bazhang> salil, remove cd from repo list
[15:46] <unavailable> m0u5e:  when that didnt work right either, i purged then reinstalled from the backport
[15:46] <darkcrab> ive installed ubuntu hardy several times on my laptop off and on with the same disk, and recently when installing this time it didnt give me an option to resize the windows partition even though their was one. Any reason for this?
[15:46] <Jaymac> salil System > Administration > Software Sources and uncheck the CD box
[15:46] <darkcrab> there was only two options: use entire disk space or use largest space
[15:46] <needhelpwithmusi> i am back
[15:46] <m0u5e> unavailable: thats weird... sorry, i'm not sure what could be wrong :(, maybe check under sessions and see if the widgets that are supposed to be autostarting are enabled?
[15:46] <unavailable> darkcrab there was no manual??
[15:46] <elexodus> I need help taking Root ownership off of a drive partician to be used as an FTP. Anybody?
[15:46] <Dmole> anyone ever made ubuntu act like a WAP?
[15:47] <unavailable> m0u5e:  thats the thing, they show up in startup, but when running they dont show up in the current session
[15:47] <darkcrab> there was manual, but normally there was an option to resize windows but that was missing.
[15:47] <lesshaste> if I click on the link at http://www.toppy.org.uk/downloads/windows.php which says "Setup program for Topfield PC Utilities, including file transfer and software update tools, for Windows XP and Vista 32bit (More info)" it seems to hang firefox
[15:47] <lesshaste> this is firefox 3 for heron
[15:47] <Gillpy> elexodus: use chown() to change ownership
[15:47] <lesshaste> does anyone else see this?
[15:48] <Dmole> Chillspot like
[15:48] <jazzkutya> m0u5e: btw where is this pulseaudio thing supposed to be configured?
[15:48] <simard> I am running ubuntu 8.04, I am trying to identify which /etc/rc2.d/ link is responsible for startx, any hint ?
[15:48] <kthyonmachine> donde ayuda en español
[15:48] <bazhang> kthyonmachine, /join #ubuntu-es
[15:49] <Gillpy> simard: gdm, kdm ,xdm
[15:49] <needhelpwithmusi> i need help to configure my sound card to pulseaudio
[15:49] <jazzkutya> simard: it's S30gdm
[15:49] <needhelpwithmusi> jazz: thanks for your help
[15:49] <m0u5e> jazzkutya: not sure... maybe check this article? :)
[15:49] <m0u5e> jazzkutya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[15:49] <simard> jazzkutya, Gillpy ok just found that S30gdm thing
[15:50] <elexodus> Gillpy: I was trying to change ownership using chmod...
[15:50] <z0man> GA
[15:50] <z0man> My mouse is going crazy, I swear it's one of my compiz settings :/  Just don't know which lol
[15:50] <z0man> Every once in a while it randomly moves and clicks on things.
[15:50] <z0man> And the Y stops working
[15:50] <z0man> I go to some 3D mode in compiz to help stop the random mouse movement once in a while.
[15:50] <jazzkutya> z0man: very cheap optical mouses produce glitches like this even on windows
[15:51] <jazzkutya> z0man: oh and if it's a wireless one check the battery
[15:51] <z0man> Thankfully its not wireless.
[15:51] <z0man> My family all has the same mouse, and I am the only with the glitch
[15:51] <z0man> My dad uses vista and doesn't bother him on that :/
[15:52] <z0man> How can I reset compiz configs?
[15:52] <Gillpy> !enter > z0man
[15:52] <jazzkutya> well then sorry i don't know
[15:52] <flawer> hi. my whole ubuntu system is inside a file root.disk on a NTFS disk. Is that a bad thing? =)
[15:52] <jazzkutya> z0man: you can set effects to none and see if it helps, it also resets many settings (i mean after switching back) but not all
[15:52] <z0man> Thx for trying jazzkutya
[15:53] <z0man> I'm going to try and reset by delete the "." hidden folders touch wood that should be fine.
[15:53] <lini1> hello. has anybody runs kvm and usb?
[15:54] <m0u5e> whenever i maximize youtube videos, they are transparent... its not related to my opacity settings, because it still does it when i turn those off... anyone know why?
[15:55] <mahidhar> i m not able 2 watch movies in my sys its is not supporting ".exe"....... what shld i do now
[15:55] <Gillpy> Does anyone know of geolocation software for ubuntu ?
[15:56] <bazhang> mahidhar, exe is not a movie format
[15:56] <amenado> what does a geolocation software do?
[15:56] <elexodus> Ok, so I did this in terminal: "chown -R elexodus /media/sda4" and I still get this: http://i33.tinypic.com/3486haw.png What am I doing wrong?
[15:57] <Gillpy> amenado: it locates ip addresses geographically
[15:57] <ujos> Hello
[15:57] <mahidhar> bazhang,  ya but the player which supports was .exe
[15:57] <m0u5e> nvm fixed it :)
[15:57] <bazhang> mahidhar, install vlc
[15:57] <ujos> Looks like LInux incorectly schedules thread
[15:57] <mahidhar> bazhang, i had vlc but it was not respondind
[15:57] <petersaints> currently what's the best music player for GNOME? Banshee or Exaile?
[15:58] <amenado> Gillpy-> not all have converted to ipv6 yet, so ipv4 (not all) can not accurately be attributed to particular country as far as i know..
[15:58] <HymnToLife> Gillpy: geoip (if country localization is good enough for you)
[15:58] <bazhang> mahidhar, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:58] <mahidhar> bazhang, how 2 install it
[15:58] <chi_> nextone
[15:59] <bazhang> mahidhar, sudo apt-get install packagename
[15:59] <Solaris444> hey guys
[15:59] <flawer> how do I change the storingcapacity for ubuntu if it's installed located in a disk file?
[15:59] <Solaris444> anyone have experience getting mobile devices to sync to their linux desktop?
[15:59] <mahidhar> bazhang, k f9 i ll try now
[15:59] <amenado> flawer-> add more hard disk?
[15:59] <bazhang> flawer, this is wubi?
[15:59] <zvacet> mahidhar : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:59] <chi_> Solaris444:  I HATE SONY for THISone
[16:00] <mahidhar> zvacet, k i ll try
[16:00] <Gillpy> elexodus: Are you sure the partition is mounted with rw permissions ?
[16:00] <z0man|brb> I renamed "/home/user/.config/compiz to compiz-old and thankfully regenerated the basics again :)  If the glitches still appear then I believe you right I have to buy a new mouse.
[16:00] <zvacet> mahidhar : O.K.
[16:00] <bazhang> chi_, do you have a support question? this is a support channel; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:00] <z0man|brb> oh and no, my parents don't have the same mouse... I ashumed :/
[16:00] <Solaris444> ok, i'm just trying to work out how to use opensync
[16:00] <Solaris444> i can't make heads nor tails of it
[16:01] <refriedbeans> hey guys, for some reason, every time i want to play a .MP4 video file, Ubuntu either freezes or logs me off
[16:01] <jazzkutya> z0man: it would be enought to set visual effects to none
[16:01] <chi_> bazhang:  just had a question times ago, just helped 2 ppl meanwhile
[16:01] <flawer> I installed ubuntu from windows
[16:01] <refriedbeans> i'm not sure why .MP4's have an affect on Ubuntu
[16:01] <elexodus> Gillpy: yes, I can read from it, just not write to it without doing "sudo nautilus" in terminal. Here's what the terminal is spitting out: http://i34.tinypic.com/2pzdxzk.png
[16:02] <bazhang> flawer, have you read the wubi faq on how to do that?
[16:02] <Awsoonn> when a file in directory X is  updated, I want to run scrit foo; Is there a simple way to do this?
[16:02] <mahidhar> zvacet, i m download it ....... now i have 2 install it again
[16:02] <z0man|brb> Think I'm knowing it is reset totally, which it has.  Having a new batch of healthy settings anyway :)  I've toyed with Compiz-settings soo much :P
[16:03] <rossell> ola
[16:03] <mahidhar> bazhang, after the installing what shld i do
[16:03] <unop> elexodus, what does this output?   mount | grep -i sda4
[16:03] <whileimhere> Any suggestions on a compression program that allows for all formats and really does a great job?
[16:03] <AzizLight|away> hi everybody
[16:03] <zvacet> mahidhar : it suposed to be downloaded and installed without your intervention
[16:03] <jazzkutya> z0man|brb: me too, my windows can stick in a state shivering forever :)
[16:04] <Gillpy> HymnToLife: thanks,
[16:04] <z0man|brb> I still love compiz ^^
[16:04] <mahidhar> zvacet, kk
[16:04] <refriedbeans> hey guys, for some reason, every time i want to play a .MP4 video file, Ubuntu either freezes or logs me off
[16:04] <AzizLight|away> I just installed cplay and everytime I try to play a file I get the message "Player Not Found!", how can I make it work please?
[16:04] <mahidhar> zvacet, tnks
[16:04] <elexodus> Gillpy:
[16:04] <elexodus> /dev/sda4 on /media/HappyTrees type vfat (rw)
[16:04] <elexodus> /dev/sda4 on /media/sda4 type vfat (rw)
[16:04] <zvacet> mahidhar :  :)
[16:05] <lucky711x> Im trying to remove comments out of some source code using sed and its only comments that are # or ## and only one line a piece...i cant figure this out some one please help
[16:05] <jazzkutya> elexodus: you should mount it with -o uid=1000 but i don't know hot to do it with ubuntu's automounting stuff
[16:05] <Aaron_Mason> hey all, trying to get audacity working, it has been installed and I can import an audio file, but when i hit play, I can't hear any sound
[16:05] <z0man|brb> Thanks for bring up the idea about cheap Opt -mouses.... Despite resetting my compiz settings it still happened again, so I'll check another OS before buying a new one lol
[16:06] <bazhang> Aaron_Mason, audacity the editor or audacious the player
[16:06] <unop> elexodus, you cannot change permissions and ownership of files on a FAT partition :)
[16:06] <Aaron_Mason> editor
[16:06] <amenado> lucky711x-> try   s/#*//g
[16:06] <zvacet> lucky711x : system>admin>software repositories>check source
[16:06] <z0man|brb> thx <jazzkutya>  : I'm gona do my final test and then blog my findings :P
[16:06] <unop> elexodus, if you find you cannot write to files on this partition - see the mount manpage
[16:06] <elexodus> jazzkytya: What would be the command in terminal? "sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/sda4 /media/HappyTrees"?
[16:07] <ttye0> Is there any reason why after a kernel upgrade all of my snd_* modules don't exist? I'm used to building a kernel from scratch, but I'd like to get my sound back the Ubuntu-way ;)
[16:07] <jazzkutya> elexodus: first you have to unmount it: umount /dev/sda4
[16:07] <elexodus> unop: that would explain a lot.
[16:07] <m0u5e> why oh why is youtube considered a (type=DropdownMenu)
[16:07] <m0u5e> is there a way to specify a % opacity with (type=DropdownMenu) while !youtube
[16:07] <jazzkutya> elexodus: then mount /dev/sda4 /media/sda4 -t vfat -o uid=1000
[16:07] <unop> amenado, lucky711x - s/^[[:space:]]*#+//g  # so as not to remove stuff that would occur somewhere except at the begining of a line
[16:07] <jazzkutya> but i don't know of ubuntu will allow this
[16:08] <lucky711x> amenado, that just removed #'s not the comments that followed
[16:08] <unop> lucky711x - s/^[[:space:]]*#+.*//g
[16:08] <Aaron_Mason> s/#.*//g
[16:08] <elexodus> jazzkytya: hold up, just a second
[16:09] <jazzkutya> elexodus: and using sudo, of course
[16:09] <amenado> lucky711x-> then Aaron_Mason solution is much better, i misunderstood you
[16:09] <amenado> or unop too
[16:09] <n-iCe> which one is mi microphone http://www.torroella.pastebin.com/m763ccf15
[16:09] <n-iCe> O.o
[16:09] <elexodus> jazzkytya: nope, same permissions, and same error
[16:10] <ttye0> For some reason my sound modules weren't built. I'm using the 2.6.24-19-generic kernel. How can I get my sound modules back without a manual recompiling of the kernel?
[16:10] <jazzkutya> elexodus: the command id tells you your uid. what is it?
[16:10] <unop> elexodus, have you been listening to me? you cannot do what you want to do with a FAT filesystem
[16:10] <lucky711x> Aaron_Mason, unop amenado same results nothing changed
[16:11] <unop> lucky711x, sed does not change the original files unless you use -i to it  or redirect the output to a new file
[16:11] <lucky711x> this is what im using sed 's/#.*//g' <file>
[16:11] <unop> lucky711x, sed -i 's/^#.*//g' <file>
[16:11] <amenado> lucky711x-> add -n  to not print as default
[16:11] <elexodus> unop: I heard, I'm just trying anyway.
[16:11] <unop> elexodus, that's silly
[16:11] <lucky711x> wow i feel dumb
[16:12] <unop> lucky711x, don't forget the ^ otherwise it will remove everything after a # on any line
[16:12] <n-iCe> which one is mi microphone http://www.torroella.pastebin.com/m763ccf15
[16:12] <jazzkutya> unop: why is it not possible?
[16:12] <lucky711x> i used sed 's/#.*//g' <file> > <newfile> and it worked like a charm
[16:12] <unop> jazzkutya, FAT does not support these operations
[16:12] <elexodus> jazzkytya: right now I am "uid=0(root)"
[16:12] <unop> lucky711x,  errm no
[16:13] <lucky711x> unop, thats what i was needing
[16:13] <jazzkutya> unop: yes but you can mount it in a way that everything is owned by the user
[16:13] <unop> lucky711x,  that might have taken off more than you wanted
[16:13] <jazzkutya> unop: get out of sudo and then id again
[16:13] <unop> lucky711x, consider this.  echo -e "foo\nbar#moo\n#foo" | sed 's/#.*//'
[16:13] <jazzkutya> unop: sorry :)
[16:13] <apo> Hi, anybody got experience with pam_mount? Seems like cron segfaults on jobs for the users that have pam_mount enabled...
[16:13] <jazzkutya> elexodus: get out of sudo and id again
[16:14] <elexodus> jazzkytya: uid=0(root)
[16:14] <elexodus> jazzkytya: oops, I mean uid=1000(elexodus)
[16:14] <jazzkutya> elexodus: outside sudo??? open a new terminal and id there
[16:14] <jazzkutya> oic
[16:15] <elexodus> jazzkytya: yes, uid=1000(elexodus)
[16:15] <jazzkutya> elexodus: unmount the volume by rightclicking on it
[16:15] <Aaron_Mason> unop, that seemed to work fine as well
[16:15] <elexodus> jazzkytya: not an option
[16:15] <jazzkutya> and then try sudo mkdir /mnt/sda4;sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/sda4 -t vfat -o rw,uid=1000
[16:16] <mnereson> Hello. I have a daily cron job that is shutting down my box, not sure which job. Can I put a statement in the crons to output something to the syslog? what do I use to ouput to syslog?
[16:16] <unop> Aaron_Mason, if you use s/#.*//  as opposed to s/^#.*//  - everything after # on ever line no matter where # is is removed .. not just comments
[16:16] <jazzkutya> elexodus: is /dev/sda4 in you /etc/fstab?
[16:16] <goldengold> Hai...
[16:17] <goldengold> Can anyone reccommend a free good e-book on configuring and starting Ubuntu?
[16:17] <Aaron_Mason> unop, you're thinking /#.*/d
[16:17] <Aaron_Mason> oh
[16:17] <amenado> mnereson-> sudo  crontab -l  to list entries
[16:17] <unop> Aaron_Mason, again, you're note considering #s somewhere down the line
[16:17] <Aaron_Mason> thats usually where comments start
[16:17] <Aaron_Mason> a
[16:17] <Aaron_Mason> i see
[16:18] <Aaron_Mason> like printf('blah blah #bob');
[16:18] <unop> right exactly
 Can anyone reccommend a free good e-book on configuring and starting Ubuntu?
[16:18] <elexodus> jazzkytya:
[16:18] <elexodus> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[16:18] <elexodus> #
[16:19] <elexodus> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[16:19] <jazzkutya> sorry :)
[16:19] <elexodus> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[16:19] <FloodBot3> elexodus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:19] <unop> Aaron_Mason, i suggested this so it takes into consideration spaces at the beginning of a line too.   s/^[[:space:]]*#+.*//g
[16:19] <elexodus> # /dev/sda3
[16:19] <elexodus> UUID=befebd75-3b4d-479d-ba95-a77ffd7e2913 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:19] <elexodus> # /dev/sda1
[16:19] <elexodus> UUID=07D8-0110  /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[16:19] <elexodus> # /dev/sda2
[16:19] <elexodus> UUID=07D8-0110  /media/sda2     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[16:19] <FloodBot3> elexodus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:19] <elexodus> # /dev/sda4
[16:19] <Aaron_Mason> ah i see
[16:19] <elexodus> UUID=486E-733B  /media/sda4     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[16:19] <elexodus> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[16:19] <elexodus> oops... sorry
[16:19] <elexodus> jazzkytya: http://pastebin.ca/1084343
[16:19] <elexodus> jazzkytya: http://pastebin.ca/1084343
[16:19] <elexodus> sorry everyone
[16:21] <schroedinbug> anyone ever see grub report the wrong partition with 'grub> find /boot/grub/stage1' ?
[16:21] <zvacet> goldengold :http://eu.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470082933.html
[16:21] <schroedinbug> like it should report (hd0,4), but reports (hd0,5)?
[16:22] <apo> Never mind, found it... it was indeed pam_mount
[16:22] <zvacet> goldengold :http://search.oreilly.com/?q=ubuntu&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
[16:23] <amenado> schroedinbug-> all the time or one time?
[16:23] <flawer> I installed ubuntu from windows. How do I get rid of it? The uninstall program doesnt work
[16:23] <bazhang> flawer, you tried add/remove?
[16:23] <flawer> yes
[16:23] <flawer> and the uninstall program
[16:24] <flawer> nothing happends
[16:24] <flawer> triend in admin mode
[16:24] <bazhang> flawer, you can still boot into ubuntu or not
[16:24] <Led-Zeppelin> o
[16:24] <flawer> I think I can.. I havent met any uninstallation
[16:24] <mnereson> ﻿amenado: thanks. no jobs are listed. I am looking at /etc/cron.daily$ syslog indicates that its one of the 8 jobs in here that are causing the shutdown, but I dunno which one
[16:24] <bazhang> flawer, try and do so
[16:24] <flawer> k
[16:25] <amenado> mnereson-> can you paste some of the lines from your syslog?
[16:25] <schroedinbug> amenado, all the time.
[16:26] <jflower> Hi, I'm after nVIDIA drivers that'll allow me to enable "Desktop Effects" under System -> Appearance. I've tried the ones which Ubuntu and EnvyNG download for me, but they don't seem to function correctly since they cause the desktop colours to be wrong, and result in screen resolutions which I can't change.
[16:26] <amenado> schroedinbug-> are you sure you did not mis-count? can you paste the results of your fdisk -l;  and mount  ?
[16:28] <schroedinbug> amenado, fdisk -l output http://rafb.net/p/wi5iAO50.html
[16:30] <lopin> Hello!  I appear to be having a slight problem resizing a Vista Partition.  It would appear that about midway through rearranging my data, the kernel could no longer read my disk.  I'm in linux now, and the drive appears to be readable, however, the computer refuses to start vista for anything.  I've already run ntfsresize -fi , chkdsk, and bootrec /fixmbr, all with no help.  Can anyone help me out here?
[16:30] <Sp0tter> Are there any pre-made completly auto install Ubuntu Server cd's made?  I've been trying tom ake my own, but ubuntu wont let me create a key over terminal.. so I went to the consoel and it worked but then i got a 'tail error in debian paackager' when i tried to repackage the keyring
[16:30] <Sp0tter> would love it if there was one premade, just need basic auto server install
[16:30] <ManualOverDozer8> lopin how big is the partition that you were making ?
[16:30] <lopin> 80 GB.
[16:31] <amenado> schroedinbug-> yeah, you are right..however, its odd that another flag is enabled to tell the bootloader your /dev/sda5 is bootable?
[16:31] <ManualOverDozer8> lopin: by chance, is that SATA ?
[16:31] <heavensrevenge> hello
[16:31] <lopin> Indeed.
[16:31] <heavensrevenge> i believe i hid my firefox bookmark menu
[16:31] <heavensrevenge> is there an option to "unhide" the firefox bookmark menu??
[16:31] <lopin> Right click on the address bar, and select the bookmark menu.
[16:31] <ManualOverDozer8> lopin: i had same exact issue with XP machine on 500gb HDD, havent yet to find a solution
[16:32] <lopin> Damn...
[16:32] <ManualOverDozer8> i know
[16:32] <heavensrevenge> the menu, not the toolbar
[16:32] <heavensrevenge> the MENU, like the dropdown menu
[16:32] <ManualOverDozer8> lopin: as a test i made a 2gb partition, and it worked just find, somewhere over 20gb it fails badly
[16:32] <hkais> hello, how can I display my keystorkes under linux?
[16:32] <lopin> Okay...  Guess I'm going to have to copy everything to another computer with FTP while I can read the drive, and reinstall everything...  This kinda sucks...
[16:32] <heavensrevenge> the toolbar ok, done and done, but the menu
[16:33] <h00k> lopin, have you tried booting from the Vista DVD and clicking "Startup repair" or something similar?
[16:33] <mnereson> ﻿amenado: did you receive my syslog lines? any ideas?
[16:33] <amenado> heavensrevenge-> its probably somewhere in about:config  i've seen it in a tip and tricks of firefox, but offcourse i cant remember which
[16:33] <lopin> Well, I removed the ubuntu drive fine, and have been playing with this partition for a while.  Move data from one into the larger one, then absorb the smaller one.
[16:33] <amenado> mnereson-> nope, use the pastebin please
[16:33] <jazzkutya> hkais: you can use xev if this is what you want
[16:33] <ManualOverDozer8> lopinL i tried multiple partition managers and they all did the same, so, i would assume its and OS issue. if this info helps any
[16:33] <heavensrevenge> ah, thank you,m ill dig around about:config
[16:33] <lopin> h00k, Yes, it said it repaired it, but I still have a lovely blinking cursor on reboot...
[16:34] <lopin> heavensrevenge, Did you hide it with the Del.icio.us add-on?
[16:34] <jazzkutya> heavensrevenge: right click and customize?
[16:34] <chi_> lopin: did you install something on the very first partition after the windows install was made?
[16:34] <jazzkutya> heavensrevenge: with this you can drag the bookmark menu back
[16:34] <heavensrevenge> i might have, it was quick and i barely even saw the word "hide"
[16:34] <ManualOverDozer8> lopin: i even tried a proggy called Spinrite to check the dirve, and the drive shows good
[16:35] <lopin> I'm reading the drive right now.  I'm in an Ubuntu live disk, and all my data is there...
[16:35] <juanma> holas a todos
[16:35] <lopin> It just refuses to boot.
[16:35] <Gnea> lopin: did you backup your data from vista before attempting the resize?
[16:35] <schroedinbug> amenado, would that make a difference though? I agree that it's odd...
[16:36] <schroedinbug> I always seem to run into strange things when helping others with Linux...
[16:36] <lopin> heavensrevenge, There should be a menu option to get it back in the add-on options...  I'm not sure exactly where it is, but it should be in a menu marked for integration or similar...
[16:36] <Petengy> hi to all
[16:36] <mnereson> ﻿amenado: http://pastebin.ca/1084351
[16:36] <heavensrevenge> hmm
[16:36] <heavensrevenge> i added a bookmark icon
[16:36] <heavensrevenge> and have a bookmark sidebar
[16:36] <lopin> Gnea...  No, I was a bad little techie...  I've still got most of it on other drives, and I can definitely read the disk right now, so I'll be copying the rest to another computer
[16:36] <heavensrevenge> which shows the menu entry, but it actually isnt added to the top menu
[16:37] <amenado> schroedinbug-> i dont know, but you are coming across it, also perhaps check your  /boot/grub/device.map  to see what the entry is
[16:37] <masteredu> !german
[16:37] <Gnea> lopin: for future reference, you may wish to consider a neat debian-based program/livecd called clonezilla (clonezilla.org)
[16:38] <Gnea> lopin: it works great with ntfs partitions
[16:38] <lopin> Gnea, thanks for the info!  Noted.  ^.^
[16:38] <heavensrevenge> WOHO
[16:38] <heavensrevenge> got it
[16:38] <heavensrevenge> thanks people
[16:38] <elexodus> hey unop...
[16:38] <unop> hey
[16:39] <kane77> what is a good backup program for ubuntu? (I mostly need to back up source files so it would be cool if the program could show me diff between versions)
[16:39] <unop> kane77, svn
[16:39] <amenado> mnereson-> i dont see from your log which one shuts your system down...not from what you pasted so far
[16:40] <kane77> unop, yeah, but the files are already a versioned by svn.. I need something to back up my files between commits
[16:40] <elexodus> unop: you owe jazzkutya an apology.
[16:40] <Petengy> after the last automatic ubuntu system upgrading the wireless connection stops to work properly , somenone have some ideas ?
[16:40] <lopin> Well, thanks for the help guys.  I really appreciate it.
[16:40] <h00k_> lopin, good luck
[16:40] <kane77> unop, plus back up other files as well (system settings etc.)..
[16:40] <mnereson> amenado: thats what I am trying to find out, which job is causing the shutdown. the question was, can I put a statement in each cron job that outputs the name of that job to the syslog? so the next time it shutsdown, i can see the last job that was executed.
[16:40] <amenado> Petengy-> its been reported by many, same experience you just had
[16:41] <unop> elexodus, i do?
[16:41] <elexodus> yup.
[16:41] <lopin> h00k_, Thanks.
[16:41] <amenado> mnereson-> yes, on the script that is run by cron, you can insert  a syslog command
[16:41] <elexodus> unop: he got the permissaions and ownership fixed on the fat32 partician.
[16:41] <Petengy> amenado->  so what I have to do ??
[16:41] <jazzkutya> unop: we've edited fstab to have uid=1000
[16:41] <lopin> Worst comes to worst, I can still read the drive fine on Linux.  So, I'll just copy the data over if it still won't boot...
[16:42] <unop> kane77, i'm not sure why you would want something like that as svn stores the differences/deltas between versions so it is always possible to recreate/revert to a particular version
[16:42] <amenado> Petengy-> which wifi chip do you have?  sudo lshw -C network
[16:42] <masteredu> can some one help me , i have inputed today my old screen , becouse i will use 2 screens , but ubuntu only detect one
[16:42] <unop> elexodus, if i may say so - you've just worked around the issue not really fixed it :)
[16:43] <unop> jazzkutya, cool. it's what is needed
[16:43] <elexodus> unop: I don't care... It works.
[16:43] <Sp0tter> I get this error when repackaging the debian key ring for an auto installer:  tail: cannot open `debian/changelog' for reading: No such file or directory .  How do i fix it?
[16:43] <Petengy> amenado-> 1 minute :)
[16:43] <sivel27> hello all
[16:43] <GraniteGargoyle> anyone know how to get 3d acceleration on an older radeon mobility?
[16:43] <Sp0tter> hello sivel27
[16:44] <kane77> unop, the thing is I dont want to commit state that does not function and lately I have been working on one thing and I accidentally deleted whole working copy with changes I made that were not yet commited.. so I want something to back me up between commits...
[16:44] <schroedinbug> amenado, don't have access to the machine now, but this is what happens with grub:  http://rafb.net/p/KLV6Xo58.html
[16:44] <Petengy> amenado-> Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[16:44] <sivel27> is there any way possible to recover logs that someone rm -rf 'd?
[16:44] <schroedinbug> amenado, seen that error?
[16:44] <ndo> hey, guys, whats deffauld debian etch 4.r4 filesystem?
[16:44] <amenado> schroedinbug-> i would not change it yet, i'd check the entry on /boot/grub/device.map  first thing
[16:45] <ndo> deffaut*
[16:45] <roch09> hi all :)
[16:45] <unop> elexodus, i don't see why you insist i apologise - i stand by what i say and didn't contest to him saying you could change mount point options
[16:46] <amenado> Petengy-> see if you have the driver for it  at  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[16:46] <elexodus> unop: Just gloating. Have a great day!
[16:46] <Petengy> amenado-> ok
[16:46] <bazhang> elexodus, not here.
[16:47] <GraniteGargoyle> anyone know how to enable 3d accel. on an older radeon mobility grafx
[16:48] <schroedinbug> amenado, hmm... I'll look at that when I can get to the machine later.  Thanks.
[16:48] <qid> In the System > Administration > Network dialog, I've configured my laptop's wireless to connect to my access point, but it ignores the settings and connects to a different one.  Is there a hidden "apply" button I'm not seeing or something?
[16:49] <roch09> new to linux, trying to dual boot ubuntu with vista installed first. vista is using wingrub bootloder, if i install ubuntu in seperate partition with dedicated grub bootloder for that partition, will it affect the wingrub? i dont want any changes made to vista bootloder (wingrub). whats the best way to do the dual boot
[16:49] <nasop> where do I put this 192.168.0.160:/shares/internal/dddd on /media/nfs-dddd type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.0.169) if i want it auto mounted on reboot?
[16:49] <amenado> nasop-> on /etc/fstab
[16:49] <Sylphid> is intel turbo memory utilized in ubuntu yet?
[16:49] <nasop> amenado: the whole path+
[16:49] <nasop> amenado: the whole path?
[16:50] <jazzkutya> nasop: the whole line
[16:50] <nasop> thanks amenado jazzkutya
[16:50] <Petengy> amenado-> no drivers ... that's strange because wireless worked before .....
[16:50] <amenado> mnereson-> man logger   to show the options for initiating a syslog from script
[16:51] <amenado> Petengy-> okay, look for it in the old kernel path   /lib/modules/'old kernelpath here'/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[16:52] <Petengy> amenado-> ok (TnX for helping:) )
[16:52] <shashi> In Ubuntu, what is the command to disable a service at boot time ?
[16:52] <amenado> Petengy-> you are welcome
[16:53] <qid> shashi: I think there's a configuration dialog for that, actually, I'll see if I can find it
[16:53] <amenado> Sylphid-> what is turbo memory?
[16:53] <ManualOverDozer8> shashi: have you looked at System/Administration/Services ?
[16:54] <Sylphid> amenado, Intel Turbo Memory (codenamed Robson,[1] also known as a Robson cache) is a technology introduced by semi-conductor company Intel to utilize NAND flash memory modules, reducing the time it takes for a computer to power up, access programs, and write data to the hard drive.
[16:55] <rtz3724> Sylphid: AFAIK there is no support for Intel Turbo Memory in linux yet
[16:55] <GraniteGargoyle> where do I enable 3d acceleration? it recognizes my grafx but I don't think 3d is enabled
[16:55] <amenado> Sylphid-> i would think that requires a kernel module compile, am sure those are used in embedded systems,  look in your /boot/config*  to see if that module is compiled in
[16:55] <paranoid_> hi all, I'm having a problem with ndiswrapper - I've followed all the instructions, and everything from the ndiswrapper side of things seems to work - but when I modprobe it, no other network cards show up in iwconfig or ifconfig - anyone got any suggestions?
[16:55] <Sylphid> thanks rtz3724
[16:56] <shengfanly> d
[16:56] <rtz3724> amenado: no, Turbo Memory is not the same as flash storage
[16:57] <amenado> rtz3724-> oh okay, the way he worded seems it was..
[16:57] <jazzkutya> amenado: it's the way flash memory used to accelerate booting
[16:57] <amenado> rtz3724-> just curious though, what do you meant by flash?
[16:58] <rtz3724> amenado: flash memory in compact flash or solid state disks
[16:58] <amenado> jazzkutya-> yes, and used in embedded systems as they dont have hd usually
[16:59] <jazzkutya> amenado: yup, they are fast by default :)
[16:59] <amenado> rtz3724-> oh okay, i still dont know what he meant by that turbo memory then
[16:59] <rtz3724> amenado: but this intel turbo memory thing is using nand flash as a cache for reading/writing hard disk
[16:59] <jazzkutya> amenado: things needed while booting are loaded from a pendrive instead of hard disk, avoiding seek times
[16:59] <ndo> noone knows what is Debians default filesystem?
[17:00] <ndo> :D
[17:00] <bazhang> ndo, ask in #debian
[17:00] <ndo> ohh, wow, okey, ty:) hf
[17:00] <nand> yeah, nand memory rocks!
[17:01] <roch09> need help with vista dual boot? please.
[17:01] <amenado> rtz3724-> ah okay, it is i thought it was.. i think i have seen it in the uclinux development kit mentioned.
[17:01] <bazhang> roch09, via wubi or alongside
[17:01] <roch09> alongside
[17:01] <bazhang> roch09, what issues are you having
[17:01] <jazzkutya> what is wubi?
[17:02] <bazhang> !wubi
[17:02] <roch09> i did my research but got some issues to clarify\
[17:02] <bazhang> roch09, go ahead
[17:02] <roch09> my vista bootloder is wingrub, because i did not buy it
[17:03] <bazhang> roch09, ubuntu installed yet?
[17:03] <roch09> no
[17:03] <roch09> if i instal ubuntu, will it replace wingrub
[17:03] <gctpoy> hi everybody
[17:04] <fyrestrtr> roch09: yes
[17:04] <gctpoy> anyone to chat with me
[17:04] <bazhang> roch09, it will add vista to ubuntu grub
[17:04] <roch09> then will vista still work
[17:04] <bazhang> gctpoy, this is not a chat channel
[17:04] <bazhang> roch09, define 'work'
[17:04] <roch09> because its a cracked copy - vista
[17:04] <brenoplucena> sup
[17:05] <bazhang> roch09, vista will still 'work'
[17:05] <roch09> means will it ask me for activation
[17:05] <roch09> because the cracked versions come with wingrub
[17:05] <bazhang> roch09, no idea about that ; ask in ##windows for vista questions
[17:06] <bazhang> !piracy > roch09
[17:06] <roch09> k, one morre
[17:06] <jevangelo> hey, what programs can decode dvd's in order to burn them back to dvd to make copies
[17:06] <pixlated> I setup remote desktop in Hardy, i can see it listening on 5900, however it's not letting me connect (telnet tested)
[17:06] <bazhang> k9copy is one jevangelo
[17:06] <pixlated> what else do i have to do?
[17:07] <roch09> no, i want dedicated grub bootloader for the seperate partition i created for ubuntu, i dont want it to over write the wingrub
[17:08] <bazhang> roch09, you are talking about a pirated version of windows, both of which are offtopic here.
[17:09] <lux0815> hi, how i can compile a kernel module for a specific version eg 2.6.20.1?
[17:09] <Dmole> do I need FreeRadious to use CoovaChilli?
[17:09] <jevangelo> thanks, looks like what i will go with
[17:09] <pixlated> i even disabled the firewall with "ufw disable"
[17:09] <pixlated> still not working
[17:10] <roch09> I want a seperate grub because i want to instal different versions of linux in the separate partition
[17:12] <unop> roch09, you can only have one active bootloader at any one time -- and grub is capable of dealing with multiple operating systems
[17:12] <bazhang> unop, he is dealing with a pirated version of windows
[17:13] <unop> bazhang, oh. hmm. still
[17:13] <roch09> thanks for the help :)
[17:13] <barra_> good day
[17:14] <barra_> anyone around with 32bit ubuntu and an ATI graphics card who wouldn't mind helping an open source project?
[17:14] <bazhang> barra_, the system is not working or you are soliciting
[17:14] <barra_> we would need a volunteered for testing something as it seems that our engine doesn't work with ATI cards :-/
[17:14] <barra_> * volunteer
[17:15] <bazhang> barra_, best to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:15] <barra_> oki bazhang, thanks for the pointer
[17:15] <unop> roch09, you can set ubuntu to not overwrite the mbr when installing -- and then you can configure your other boorloader (wingrub??) to boot ubuntu later
[17:16] <roch09> thanks unop
[17:16] <lgc> Hi: What do people here think about this: http://www.howarddarkes.com/photos/linuxposter.jpg?
[17:17] <unop> lgc, offtopic
[17:17] <jpds> lgc: #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is a support channel.
[17:17] <bazhang> lgc funny but offtopic; please paste to #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[17:17] <os2mac> not to mention your trolling.
[17:17] <kkrusty> I've installed gutsy but I want it to be converted to another system (without a display). Wired networking works but I want to have wireless working. Any ideas?
[17:18] <lgc> Three almost-instant replies to tell me this is off-topic! Jeez!
[17:18] <Gnea> lgc: go get a real education.
[17:18] <lgc> Gnea: what do you mean by that?
[17:19] <unop> Gnea, don't prompt him.
[17:19] <roch09> Unop shall i create a dedicated grub partition
[17:19] <bazhang> lgc we were polite. please stop.
[17:19] <Gnea> !troll | lgc
[17:19] <Gnea> huh
[17:19] <ompaul> lgc, let me prove it is offtopic, (Q) was your post ubuntu support related (A) no, therefore offtopic
[17:19] <kkrusty> let me rephrase. I installed linux on system A. Now I want that installation to work on system B without a display. It works except not the wireless.
[17:19] <kkrusty> linux = gutsy
[17:19] <ompaul> lgc, I'll de codify that for you, drop it fully
[17:19] <pixlated> I can putty in but I can't vnc in to my new ubuntu desktop
[17:19] <lgc> Gnea: why do 'newcomers' like you have to make #ubuntu such an unfriendly place?
[17:20] <pixlated> how do i fix that? I don't want to tunnel vnc thru ssh, please help
[17:20] <unop> roch09, not if you want to continue using wingrub
[17:20] <pixlated> iptables --list shows no rules at all, ufw is disabled. i have no clue, wtf
[17:20] <Swish> I'd like to know if ufw is reasonably good vs. shorewall firewall
[17:21] <unop> roch09, if you decide to set the ubuntu installer from overwriting the mbr with grub - you'll need to configure wingrub to boot ubuntu after the install.
[17:21] <Sydero> Do any of you guys run snort on your home computers?
[17:21] <Swish> so if it is, I can not install shorewall on 8.04 :)
[17:21] <Petengy> amenado-> tnx for your suggestions... I found the solution to my wireless failure
[17:21] <Petengy> :)
[17:21] <Dmole> pixlated: try nxserver
[17:21] <CatEater> there's a page on the wiki that's called HowToConfigureUbuntuForMicrosoftVirtualPC2004, but it looks like someone did a search and replace to change all the names to 2007
[17:21] <pixlated> ok, ty Dmole
[17:22] <jazzkutya> pixlated: netstat -tnl|fgrep 5900 ?
[17:22] <CatEater> is the info on that page for 2004 or 2007?
[17:22] <os2mac> lgc: interesting that your only other chat room is ##windows starts to sound like a troll to me... and pretty quickly heading toward the ignore function.
[17:22] <kkrusty> is gutsy old?
[17:22] <Gnea> os2mac: calm down, he was expunged
[17:22] <pixlated> jazzykutya: tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:5900          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[17:22] <pixlated> it's listening...
[17:22] <Pete40> anyone else having troubles connecting to the Undernet servers? I keep getting disconnected with the message that my PC is infected (like thats' gonna happen on Linux :) )
[17:22] <mrtin> how do i play a sound from the terminal?
[17:22] <os2mac> os2mac ~ Teh Troll Killa.....
[17:22] <jazzkutya> pixlated: i see... where did you telnet to it from? linux or windows?
[17:23] <pixlated> windows
[17:23] <pixlated> from windows
[17:23] <Deep6> can anyone point me to a link for enabling 5.1 sound in Banshee?
[17:23] <jazzkutya> try linux instead
[17:23] <jazzkutya> like telnet localhost 5900
[17:23] <Sydero> Are there any gui programs that can remove daemon services easily?
[17:23] <pixlated> yes, i see the RFB header
[17:23] <Amun> I'm using the nvidia-glx-new drivers for my nvidia fx 5950 ultra. however, when i watch a full screen video, the video seems to be choppy/shakey. its hard to explain... is there a fix for this?
[17:23] <CatEater> how do i get old versions of pages on the ubuntu wiki?
[17:24] <roch09> K, got you chief, but before i install, i am stuck at step 4 - disk partition. I have a empty 40 gb partition with NTFS, I guess I need to reformat it with EXT3 in step 4. I am a bit confused as to what I should do here, what does mount mean
[17:24] <pixlated> jazzkutya: i see the RFB header when i do it from the same machine
[17:24] <Pete40> Amun: you could download the drivers straight from nvidia
[17:24] <CatEater> what does "recovery mode" do in the grub menu?
[17:24] <jazzkutya> pixlated: did the windows telnet explicitly said connection refused?
[17:25] <roch09> unop - i am using desktop live cd
[17:25] <CatEater> it apparently doesn't boot to a text console
[17:25] <Amun> Pete40, thats a 'for sure' problem with the ones that come with ubuntu?
[17:25] <pixlated> jazzkutya: no, but it does fail immediately with "Connecting To devm43k99...Could not open connection to the host, on port 5900: Connect failed"
[17:26] <Skenvoy> Does anyone know how I can "upgrade" an existing hardy install's boot drive to raid-1?
[17:26] <Pete40> Amun: doubt it, but I'm rather stuck getting connected
[17:26] <pixlated> jazzkutya: also, my only network card in Ubuntu is my wireless card if that matters.
[17:26] <Pete40> Amun: oh wait, you were talking about your drivers, sorry :)
[17:27] <pixlated> jazzkutya: how can i start some other simple server (like an echo server) on ubuntu?
[17:27] <pixlated> jazzkutya: so i can test another port
[17:27] <Amun> Pete40, what did you think i was talking about?
[17:27] <mrtin> how do i play an mp3 from terminal??
[17:27] <Pete40> Amun: I'm not sure but I believe the nvidia-glx-new driver is a version of the driver you can find on the nvidia site.
[17:27] <Xteven> hi, is anyone using fuppes ?
[17:27] <Gnea> mrtin: sudo apt-get install mpg321
[17:28] <Pete40> but nvidia updates their drivers more frequently as ubuntu does their repositories
[17:28] <jazzkutya> pixlated: ehm.. that would be an easy question for me if using slackware, but... :)
[17:28] <Pete40> Amun: thought you responded to my question about getting disconnect on Undernet
[17:28] <mrtin> Gnea, and what would the command be for playin the sound?
[17:28] <puwei> help,my ubuntu can't visit " https " website
[17:28] <pixlated> jazzkutya: okay, np. thx for your help. i have to go out and do chores with the wife now
[17:28] <pixlated> ttyl all
[17:28] <Gnea> mrtin: the name of the package you're installing
[17:29] <mrtin> Gnea, thanks man
[17:29] <roch09> Unop - I am in prepare partitions, edit partition
[17:29] <puwei> i have try firefox swiftfox opera  and  none  work
[17:29] <puwei> help,my ubuntu can't visit " https " website
[17:29] <pixel_dust> how do I get azureus working? it keeps saying that I have a firewall but I disable
[17:29] <pixel_dust> it
[17:29] <joomla_abuser> port dorwardinf
[17:29] <Skenvoy> Does anyone know how I can "upgrade" an existing hardy install's boot drive to raid-1?
[17:29] <joomla_abuser> dyslectic
[17:29] <puwei> !help
[17:29] <puwei> !https
[17:30] <pixel_dust> !ufs
[17:30] <pixel_dust> !ufw
[17:30] <Skenvoy> !raid1
[17:30] <Skenvoy> !raid 1
[17:30] <puwei> my ubuntu can't visit " https " website
[17:30] <russ> mrtin you could try "apropos mp3", there is probably something already installed that will play it
[17:30] <joomla_abuser> !ssl
[17:31] <Gnea> Skenvoy: please /msg ubottu
[17:31] <roch09> Unop - I am using 40gb size in the first box, in the second EXT3, check the format option, what should i select for mount point?
[17:31] <joomla_abuser> puwei, must be some ssl setting in FF
[17:31] <Gnea> joomla_abuser: /msg ubottu
[17:31] <joomla_abuser> i wont
[17:31] <n0gear> !poo
[17:31] <ikonia> n0gear: please don't be silly with the bot
[17:31] <puwei> joomla_abuser i am new in ubuntu  , the FF mean?
[17:32] <ikonia> puwei: Fire Fox
[17:32] <joomla_abuser> puwei, Firefox
[17:32] <Skenvoy> well it claims to know nothing about raid1
[17:32] <ikonia> Skenvoy: it doesn't. What is your question ?
[17:32] <Skenvoy> how can I "upgrade" an existing hardy install's boot drive to raid-1?
[17:32] <pixel_dust> Roch09: mount point should be an empty directory that you create for mounting in
[17:32] <ikonia> Skenvoy: well, thats quite a complex procedure, one moment I wrote a forum post to explain this
[17:34] <britsun> What what be a good version control system for individual use?
[17:34] <pixel_dust> ie, mount /deb/sd?? /home/your_user/your_mntDIR where sd?? is the drive and your_mntDIR is what ever empty folder you made with mkdir
[17:34] <roch09> Pixel dust - which option shall i use - /, /boot, /home, or /usr. and what should i do if i want seperate home sub partition
[17:34] <Sylphid> britsun, I would recommend  RCS or SVN
[17:35] <pixel_dust> try this mkdir ~/test from the terminal
[17:35] <ikonia> Skenvoy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=695671
[17:35] <roch09> I did not use mkdir,
[17:35] <Sylphid> britsun, RCS is prolly easier to set up but SVN  is more common and easier to use via GUI
[17:35] <joomla_abuser> puwei, can you check with outher browsers
[17:35] <ikonia> Skenvoy: someone asked that question and I provided a detailed guide.
[17:35] <Skenvoy> iknoia: ty
[17:35] <esteth> How do I monitor a /dev/input/eventX device?
[17:35] <CatEater> what does "recovery mode" in the grub menu do? it apparently doesn't boot to a text console
[17:36] <pixel_dust> then you can mount that partition you are trying to mount in that directory
[17:36] <ikonia> Skenvoy: and it links to this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=695671
[17:36] <araen> hello everybody
[17:36] <puwei> ye opera and swiftfox  they bothe don't work
[17:37] <puwei> ye opera and swiftfox  they both don't work
[17:37] <pixel_dust> with 'mount /dev/sda1 (or what everdrive) ~/test
[17:37] <inik2> CatEater: it's  simiar to init 1 or  oot single
[17:37] <britsun> Sylphid: ok, ty. I also heard of DARCS , do you know of it?
[17:37] <araen> i've some problems with my documents' partition
[17:37] <araen> i've put this in my fstab :
[17:37] <Skenvoy> ikonia - heh i see what you mean by complicated - no raid superblock exists on the original drive :S
[17:37] <Skenvoy> fun will ensue
[17:37] <araen>  /dev/sda2       /home/araen/Mes_documents     fat32         defaults     0        0
[17:37] <Sylphid> britsun, I cant say im familiar with that one
[17:37] <pixel_dust> mkdir creates a directory or folder
[17:37] <ikonia> Skenvoy: it's not hard as long as you move slow - and map out your disks before doing anything
[17:37] <araen> but it doesn't work
[17:37] <CatEater> i don't know what init 1 or  oot single mean
[17:37] <AngryElf> when I go to my mythweb in firefox It's prompting a file download saying I tried to download application/x-httpd-php -- what does that mean?
[17:37] <wols_> araen: fat32 does not exist as a type
[17:37] <ikonia> Skenvoy: pay attention to the text I've put in the thread, not just the commands and you'll be fine
[17:38] <jazzkutya> araen: change fat32 to vfat and defaults to uid=1000
[17:38] <wols_> AngryElf: apache2 misconfigured. is php5 mod for apache loaded?
[17:38] <araen> ok
[17:38] <Sylphid> britsun, this may help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_revision_control_software
[17:38] <araen> i try
[17:38] <araen> thank you jazzkutya
[17:38] <joomla_abuser> puwei, ok can you test this : open terminal
[17:38] <AngryElf> wols_: I have no idea how do i figure that out?
[17:38] <jazzkutya> araen: wait
[17:38] <roch09> Pixel - k, getting a hang of it, i Am using /dev/sda3
[17:38] <wols_> !lamp | AngryElf
[17:39] <pixel_dust> does anyone know how I can get azureus working if it says that I have a firewall that is blocking traffic? if already entered ufw disable
[17:39] <jazzkutya> araen: defaults,utf8,umask=007,uid=1000 this is more official afaik instead of just uid=1000
[17:39] <wols_> pixel_dust: do you have a router?
[17:39] <araen> ok ^^
[17:39] <puwei> joomla_abuser  ye i have open a new one
[17:39] <joomla_abuser> puwei, type: sudo -s
[17:39] <Skenvoy> ikonia: thanks i'll try it but will image my os drive first i think
[17:39] <CatEater> what is "recovery mode" in the grub menu useful for?
[17:39] <ikonia> Skenvoy: a wise move. Well done
[17:39] <roch09> pixel, how can i create a seperate home subpartition in that sda3 partition
[17:40] <CatEater> how do i get old versions of pages on the ubuntu wiki?
[17:40] <Skenvoy> CatEater: a minimal command prompt for system troubleshooting
[17:40] <pixel_dust> !ufw | pixel_dust
[17:40] <puwei> joomla_abuser  i have in ther root
[17:40] <jittopjose> is there any way to edit main menu of lxde in ubuntu?
[17:40] <joomla_abuser> puwei, copypaste to  terminal or type: echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling
[17:40] <Stormx2> pixel_dust, have you forwarded ports?
[17:40] <CatEater> why don't i get a prompt then? i get the same video garbage and then solid black that i do with a normal boot
[17:40] <russ> pixel_dust it should work even with a firewall for downloading stuff but will be slower. You might have a personal firewall software package like Firestarter that you need to turn off, and if you have a home router you need to look at the documentation for that to allow the azureus traffic
[17:41] <pixel_dust> hmmm, is that home partition for a new user
[17:41] <jittopjose> anybody have experience in LXDE ubuntu?
[17:41] <roch09> no
[17:41] <CatEater> seems to me like text mode should have been figured out by now, since it's existed for >25 years
[17:41] <pixel_dust> no i have not forwarded ports
[17:42] <remoteCTRL> i downloaded an iconset but it is not being recognized as such, where can i change the icons for fex. folders?
[17:42] <roch09> pixel dust - there are going to be 3 users going to use the comp
[17:42] <AngryElf> wols_: okay, so php isn't installed correctly -- any way I can make apt-get conpletely reconfigure apache/php/myth from the ground up?
[17:42] <pixel_dust> whats the command to see if I have firestarter. that sounds familiar
[17:42] <joomla_abuser> !themes > remoteCTRL
[17:42] <CatEater> how do i get old versions of pages on the ubuntu wiki?
[17:42] <wols_> AngryElf: man dpkg-reconfigure
[17:42] <remoteCTRL> thanx joomla_abuser
[17:42] <puwei> joomla_abuser  i have type the command  but nothing hapen , just a  new black line
[17:42] <joomla_abuser> puwei, did you press enter
[17:43] <pixel_dust> roch09: do you have these users already setup? and if so do you have gnome? (default ubuntu interface)
[17:43] <puwei> echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling
[17:43] <CatEater> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToConfigureUbuntuForMicrosoftVirtualPC2004 contains false info, is there a way to get old versions of the page that might have correct instructions?
[17:43] <joomla_abuser> puwei, you get puwei@ubuntu or something right ?
[17:43] <joomla_abuser> not a blank line
[17:43] <roch09> pixel - no, first time installing linux. what will happen if i say/dev/sda3/home
[17:44] <jazzkutya> what happened to smbmount while i was not looking? changed syntax?
[17:44] <puwei> joomla_abuser  ye  root@puwei
[17:44] <joomla_abuser> puwei, reboot system
[17:44] <Gnea> CatEater: what part of it is false?
[17:44] <jazzkutya> i'm trying smbmount //atomvillanas/rut atomvillanas
[17:44] <puwei> ok  see you letter  thank you
[17:44] <pixel_dust> well if you type ls /dev/sda3/home it would list whats in that directory
[17:44] <CatEater> the part where it says you can boot with the recovery mode option and it would actually do something once it's booted
[17:44] <pixel_dust> that will tell you what user home directories you have
[17:44] <pixel_dust> brb
[17:45] <remoteCTRL> ok letme put the message more specific: what do i have to do to change the folder icon systemwide, meaning also in nautilus?
[17:45] <esac> id like to have truecrypt unmount my partition after i have gone idle for 15 minutes, or when i lock or suspend the computer. since truecrypt doesnt seem to support this, any idea how i can do this from within linux?
[17:45] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, which theme? got a link?
[17:45] <Gnea> CatEater: huh... are you sure the grub line itself is formed correctly?
[17:45] <joomla_abuser> remoteCTRL, install in /usr/share/themes , copy the extracted folder there
[17:45] <roch09> pixel - I mean when i specify /dev/sda3/home for Mountpoint. take your time
[17:45] <CatEater> it's the line that it was installed with
[17:46] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Dark+Shine+Icons+for+GNU%2BLinux?content=84463 that one is only a tar.gz with icons in it but nothing that changes a theme
[17:46] <Gnea> CatEater: one moment.
[17:46] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, you put them in which folder?
[17:46] <wols_> roch09: /dev/sda3 can't be a mountpoint. and /dev/sda3/home is utterly wrong
[17:46] <CatEater> i can run the install and most of the boot process but it always ends up with video garbage and then blank, regardless of which boot option
[17:47] <CatEater> i have never been asked to log in
[17:47] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: ~./icons
[17:47] <wols_> CatEater: what is your kernel line for the recovery boot option?
[17:47] <roch09> k wols - what should i specify for mountpoint in edit partition
[17:47] <joomla_abuser> remoteCTRL, icons go to /usr/share/icons
[17:47] <rossybell> hello all
[17:47] <CatEater> how do i find that out?
[17:47] <wols_> roch09: if you want a home partition: /home
[17:47] <arvind_khadri> !hi | rossybell
[17:47] <wols_> CatEater: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:47] <roch09> wols whats a mountpoint
[17:47] <rossybell> hi
[17:47] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: the point is that is exclusively icons, no description file in it or twhatever makes ubuntu recognize that its an iconset
[17:47] <CatEater> how do i run that command?
[17:47] <wols_> !cli | roch09
[17:48] <CatEater> i can't get a prompt
[17:48] <rossybell> this room is for which age group/
[17:48] <CatEater> as i said before,
[17:48] <rossybell> ?
[17:48] <CatEater> i have never been asked to log in
[17:48] <wols_> roch09: also man mount or a basic introductory book about unix
[17:48] <arvind_khadri> rossybell, this a support channel not a chat room
[17:48] <liviu> hy Guys!
[17:48] <wols_> CatEater: you have a live cd
[17:48] <arvind_khadri> !hi | liviu
[17:48] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, some of them do not work so well; joomla_abuser is right about where to put them though-->I use imetal for gnome and takes care of the whole shebang
[17:49] <pixel_dust> roch09: a mount point is like a drive
[17:49] <esac> is there a way to perform a custom action when the user has been idle for x number of minutes ??
[17:49] <wols_> remoteCTRL: having something you wannt to use system wide in ~ is a bad thing
[17:49] <bobbo1> ciao
[17:49] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: imetal? interesting i'll look into that, thanx so far!
[17:49] <CatEater> i have the xubuntu alternate cd
[17:49] <liviu> try the screensaver esac!
[17:49] <pixel_dust> for example when you connect a usb hdd or jump drive and it loads up that is a mount point
[17:49] <esac> liviu: it would be easy for a user to disable screensaver
[17:50] <wols_> CatEater: you have a cd you can boot from and which can mount your installation partition. that's all that's needed
[17:50] <CatEater> oh right
[17:50] <liviu> esac???
[17:50] <liviu> Dont' get it
[17:50] <pixel_dust> !esac | liviu
[17:51] <roch09> wols where do u suggest i start to become familiar with the basics of linux
[17:51] <wols_> roch09: with a good book
[17:51] <liviu> :) It's important that uses Linux!
[17:51] <roch09> thanks for the help pixel
[17:51] <cached> I'd like to switch from kubuntu to ubuntu. What's the easiest way?
[17:51] <esac> LOL
[17:51] <pixel_dust> roch09 click the blue question mark in ubuntu
[17:51] <esac> pixel_dust: nice :)
[17:51] <wols_> cached: install ubuntu-desktop
[17:51] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: problem is also those icons are not named like open.folder.png but just icon1.ico icon2.ico, asfaso
[17:51] <bazhang> ubuntu-desktop cached
[17:51] <roch09> your too wols, thanks
[17:51] <pixel_dust> or click system > help and support
[17:52] <arvind_khadri> cached, they are the same with different desktop enviorments
[17:52] <cached> wols_: bazhang: and after i do that, how do i make it run gnome instead of kde by default?
[17:52] <cached> arvind_khadri: I know that :)
[17:52] <wols_> cached:  it will do that on its own
[17:52] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, iirc you need to decompress the archive and then drop gtk folder in themes
[17:52] <arvind_khadri> cached, the login screen has option for you to login to KDE or GNOME
[17:52] <cached> wols_: can i save space by removing kubuntu-desktop?
[17:52] <bazhang> cached, select in login window under session
[17:52] <liviu> does anyone have problems with pidgin?
[17:52] <wols_> cached: yes
[17:53] <bazhang> !puregnome | cached
[17:53] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: come again?
[17:53] <liviu> i cannot connect to yahoo mess
[17:53] <wols_> !anyone | liviu
[17:53] <CatEater> okay, now how do i get a console? i'm at the xubuntu alternate install cd splash screen
[17:53] <wols_> CatEater: ctrl+alt+f2
[17:53] <onthefence928> is it possible copy my linux OS drive to another partition with out losing everything and reinstalling
[17:53] <pixel_dust> liviu: the only problem i have is the font selection
[17:53] <wols_> onthefence928: yes
[17:53] <jazzkutya> onthefence928: linux is famous for this
[17:53] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, there is a tar.gz file right? right click extract here on desktop (or wherever) then drag folder named gtk to themes window
[17:54] <liviu> OK! I have problems with the pidgin yahoo mess side
[17:54] <CatEater> if that doesn't work, is my keyboard screwy?
[17:54] <cached> Awesome :)
[17:54] <liviu> pixel_dust
[17:54] <pixel_dust> what is it not doing
[17:54] <onthefence928> wols_, jazzkutya, what do i do then?
[17:54] <cached> Thanks :)
[17:54] <CatEater> do i need the ctrl always before the alt or something
[17:54] <bazhang> np
[17:54] <arvind_khadri> liviu, ask #pidgin
[17:54] <jazzkutya> onthefence928: but you have to understand linux well :)
[17:54] <rw> hey guys, I have a CLI question. How would I lower or raise the volume (using alsa) in the terminal?
[17:54] <wols_> rw: alsamixer
[17:54] <arvind_khadri> rw, alsamixer
[17:54] <onthefence928> jazzkutya: no way to just get instructions or a how-to?
[17:54] <rw> no, I need a command
[17:54] <wols_> rw: that is a command
[17:54] <pixel_dust> rw: alsa mixer
[17:55] <jazzkutya> onthefence928: i'm sure there is a howto for this, google it
[17:55] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: umm... as said there is only *.icos in there no such folder like gtk in the archive...
[17:55] <albech> can anyone give me a link to news related to the next (alpha/beta) version of ubuntu and some release information?
[17:55] <CatEater> okay, so that doesn't work. any OTHER ways of getting a console?
[17:55] <rw> I'm need to bind "volume up" to a key and idem for "volume down"
[17:55] <cpk1> !intrepid
[17:55] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, oh, thought you meant imetal :)
[17:55] <pixel_dust> liviu: when you try to connect what is it doing/not doing
[17:55] <jazzkutya> onthefence928: sorry i can't help because I am used to different linuxes than ubuntu
[17:55] <jason0_> I just installed the rt2860 wireless driver and it seems to work when I setup a wireless network manually but I don't get the scanning, network strength, etc. Any ideas?
[17:55] <Gnea> CatEater: add init=/bin/sh to the end of a regular boot line
[17:56] <liviu> It remains on login
[17:56] <CatEater> i can't run any priograms!
[17:56] <CatEater> i cna't get a prompt
[17:56] <pixel_dust> ??
[17:56] <liviu> finaly i get an error message
[17:56] <CatEater> iio can't log in
[17:56] <wols_> CatEater: boot normally
[17:56] <liviu> that it can't connects
[17:56] <CatEater> if i do that...
[17:56] <CatEater> i can run the install and most of the boot process but it always ends up with video garbage and then blank, regardless of which boot option
[17:56] <wols_> CatEater: in grub press "e" and you can edit the boot settings
[17:56] <liviu> but the icq module it's functioning
[17:56] <britsun> rw: I think amixer but I haven't used it. read teh man page
[17:56] <Gnea> CatEater: does it still give you the option of pressing ESC during the bootup sequence for a few seconds?
[17:57] <wols_> the line starting with "kernel" is the one you need to edit
[17:57] <liviu> i think it may be a problem with the server settings on the yahoo module
[17:57] <wols_> keep root= as it is and remove the rest and add what Gnea said
[17:57] <liviu> What does it mean ask Pidgin?
[17:57] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: what exactly is imetal? no such thing in the repos?
[17:57] <pixel_dust> try clicking accounts > modify then highlight the account. let me know when you are there
[17:57] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, let me get you a link
[17:57] <arvind_khadri> liviu, go to that room a
[17:58]  * CatEater adds "init=/bin/sh" after something ending in "ro quiet splash"
[17:58] <pixel_dust> liviu: ^
[17:58] <cached> Restarting X. hope this works :)
[17:58] <Gnea> CatEater: okay
[17:58] <bazhang> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/imetal?content=63734 remoteCTRL
[17:58] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: ah its a theme, got it
[17:58] <liviu> OK! I'm still learning how this support is functioning
[17:58] <darkz0r> heya.. i have a problem with ubuntu.. i wrote the iso on a cd, and tested it in windows and it worked fine.. then i try to install ubuntu to my machine, and it gets stuck at 14% at loading kernel or what it is.. anyone got a sulution for this?
[17:58] <remoteCTRL> yeah thanx:)
[17:58] <wols_> CatEater: no ro, no quiet no splash. ONLY init=....
[17:58] <CatEater> oh interesting
[17:58] <CatEater> resetting
[17:58] <Gnea> CatEater: backspace the "ro quiet splash"
[17:59] <wols_> CatEater: splash is graphics mode. which is fscked up as you said
[17:59] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: kind of looks like mac os
[17:59] <CatEater> oh, very interesting
[17:59] <pixel_dust> liviu: i am sending you a message
[17:59] <cpk1> CatEater: have you tried using vga only?
[17:59] <tbooher> I just intalled my new hard drives and my computer doesn't boot to gui -- i login and type startx and get IO error 104 -- any options?
[17:59] <arvind_khadri> wols_, my system boots up slow and splash dies and the fsck is showed ...how do i make it boot faster?
[18:00] <CatEater> i don't know where i would select "vga only" other than on ms windows
[18:00] <rw> I'm editing my keys (fluxbox user) and I need the command to lower the system volume (not alsamixer) and the command to turn it up.
[18:00] <remoteCTRL> ah its a pity, that iconset looks really nice but i am afraid i cant use it like this:/
[18:00] <wols_> arvind_khadri: not enough data
[18:00] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, at any rate, not all iconsets or themes are well done; I had to go through half a dozen before I found one that worked at all
[18:00] <arvind_khadri> wols_, what else do you need??
[18:00] <wols_> arvind_khadri: a decent problem description
[18:00] <cached> arvind_khadri: is fsck failing?
[18:00] <CatEater> cpk1, where were you thinking of setting that?
[18:01] <tbooher> i just installed two new hard-drives and my computer boots to non-gui
[18:01] <tbooher> with ubuntu -- how do i force the computer to boot from the windows hd -- no grub installed
[18:01] <arvind_khadri> cached, no it doesnt fail... splash screen remains till some percentage and then suddenly the fsck screen shows up...
[18:01] <cpk1> CatEater: I think there is a grub option, but cant remember it.  The way I would do it is boot using the livecd and the mount my / partition and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell it to use only vga instead of whatever video driver it is using
[18:01] <cached> oh
[18:02] <CatEater> right, almost there
[18:02] <cpk1> tbooher: if windows is on its own hard drive go into the bios and change the boot order so it boots from that drive first
[18:02] <tbooher> do i need to look at my jumper settings?
[18:02] <CatEater> long pause
[18:02] <masteredu> !german
[18:02] <tbooher> cpk1: o.k. so this is a bios issue more than how my hd jumper settings are established
[18:02] <zOap> what is the name of the gnome task switcher?
[18:02] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: well its really a shame cos i have hardly seen an iconset that was so well done as that one, with love to the detail and really neat graphics:/
[18:02] <cached> masteredu: ?
[18:02] <AngryElf> okay, so php wasn't working, but now I got phpinfo working both in my apache root as well as my mythweb/ directory -- however mythweb still won't load up, i'm getting the application/x-httpd-php file download again, i'm also using the default myth.conf file that was in the mythweb directory, what gives? :(
[18:03] <darkz0r> heya.. i have a problem with ubuntu.. i wrote the iso on a cd, and tested it in windows and it worked fine.. then i try to install ubuntu to my machine, and it gets stuck at 14% at loading kernel or what it is.. anyone got a sulution for this? pretty please? :/
[18:03] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, leave on comment on the page detailing the trouble you had
[18:03] <cpk1> tbooher: well, if you have sata you don't even have any jumpers
[18:03] <dunnen> does anyone know an easy program to develop plugins for?
[18:03] <CatEater> what's the guid that was on that boot line?
[18:03] <tbooher> cpk1: ide
[18:03] <zOap> the alt+tab I´d add
[18:03] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: i just saw that there are already like 10 comments about that but no answer to them
[18:03] <CatEater> should i have deleted that too?
[18:03] <cpk1> tbooher: and if it isnt sata and set to slave, I cant remember if slaves can boot or not
[18:03] <tbooher> ide jumpers never really seemed to make a a difference . . .
[18:04] <tbooher> i think everything is set to cable select
[18:04] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, well I really want red icons to work but no dice; perhaps he/she will comment soon-ish :)
[18:04] <CatEater> should init=/bin/sh be the whole line? what's the long string of hex for?
[18:04] <tbooher> i don't know how to get into my bios -- i think it is an msi mobo . . . no internet to get to it -- anyone know
[18:04] <CatEater> how long should it pause before i should reset and try something else?
[18:05] <tombin> anyone have intermitent issues with rt73 chipset based cards?
[18:05] <jazzkutya> tbooher: try del and f2 while it does the post
[18:05] <cpk1> tbooher: most likely esc, del or one of the fkeys
[18:05] <tbooher> thanks
[18:05] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: yeah those are nice too! but yet still theres gotta be some way to insert tha somewhere manually...?
[18:05] <dunnen> does anyone know an easy program to develop plugins for?
[18:05] <tbooher> cpk1: do you know how i can see which hard-drives are detected within ubuntu?
[18:06] <LunarOrca> where ubuntu russia?
[18:06] <jpds> !ru > LunarOrca
[18:06] <cpk1> tbooher: sudo fdisk -l
[18:06] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I've recently tossed 8.04.1 on my sister's notebook, and it requires that I use Places>Windows-Drive to mount it each boot. Is there a way to have it automagicly mount when I start up? (Maybe in fstab or udev?)
[18:06] <Gnea> CatEater: the long string is the UUID of the device, which makes it easier for portability reasons (if you wanted to put the drive in as a slave instead of a master, or on a different channel, ubuntu wouldn't become confused about what device it needs to load and therefore completely lockup - the UUID prevents that)
[18:06] <tbooher> du just shows me my usage -- /etc/fstab doesn't show . . . o.k
[18:06] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, /usr/share/icons seems to be it
[18:07] <rw> Nobody knows how to turn down the system volume using the command line?
[18:07] <Gnea> rw: i usually use alsamixer
[18:07] <rw> I can't use alsamixer
[18:07] <NineTeen67Comet> rw: I did with alsamixer but for pulse? I dunno ..
[18:07] <tbooher> got it
[18:07] <fyrestrtr> tbooher: drives that are detected or drives that are mounted?
[18:07] <Gnea> why not?
[18:07] <CatEater> it said "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ...\nDone." like five minutes ago, the only thing it's said since then is something about unstable clocksource
[18:07] <CatEater> how long should it pause before i should reset and try something else?
[18:07] <rw> it's for alsa, but I need a command that would do not, not just alsamixer
[18:07] <rw> do it*
[18:08] <Gnea> CatEater: there isn't anything with a # on it? what happens if you press enter?
[18:08] <tbooher> detected
[18:08] <CatEater> pressing enter adds a blank line at the end
[18:08] <wbmj> bazhang : if you create a .icons folder in your home directory and then extract whatever icon set you want to use there, it is used over the defaults
[18:08] <Gnea> rw: but alsa controls the audio device in ubuntu
[18:08] <tbooher> let me reboot and see if i can get to bios
[18:08] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: what i mean is, you can rigtclick an icon on your desktop go to preferences and then choose a different icon for that, so i wondered if somwhere in the whole gtk settings there exists a way to do that systemwide, as it for ex also works with avant icons, just changed the one from terminal and its persistent for more spawned children and also if i clos and reopen
[18:08] <CatEater> ls produces a listing!
[18:08] <Gnea> CatEater: and if you type ls and press enter?
[18:08] <NineTeen67Comet> When I fire up my sis' notebook, it doesn't automaticly "mount" the windows c drive, but I can get it when I use Places>windows drive .. can I make it do this each time the computer is fired up?
[18:08] <tbooher> i take it there is no way to find my mobo from bash?
[18:08] <fyrestrtr> CatEater: what happens when you hit ctrl+alt+f2
[18:08] <CatEater> no # though, weird
[18:08] <Gnea> CatEater: and so, your problem is?
[18:09] <rw> gnea: I know. I'm trying to bind one of my keys to turn down the volume and one to turn it up. So alsamixer isn't usefull.
[18:09] <CatEater> ok where was i at now that i have a prompt
[18:09] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs > NineTeen67Comet
[18:09] <darkz0r> i should install fc, its able to install atleast heh
[18:09] <CatEater> something about a xorg.conf, right
[18:09] <fyrestrtr> CatEater: probably where you were before you found the prompt :)
[18:09] <rw> The man page for alsamixer has nothing like that in it
[18:09] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, not that I know of, but sounds like a worthy !brainstorm project :)
[18:10] <Gnea> rw: oh, you hadn't mentioned that earlier.
[18:10] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: whatever !brainsorm is, hehe
[18:10] <cached> Err... what was the link again detailing how to remove KDE?
[18:10] <remoteCTRL> !brainstorm
[18:10] <NineTeen67Comet> fyrestrtr: No, that's not the issue .. I know about ntfs-3g and all that .. I can get the drive no problem .. the issue is it does not automatically mount that drive when I boot her computer .. No problem for me, but she's new ..
[18:10] <Gnea> rw: are you trying to map regular keys to do it or special keys?
[18:10] <remoteCTRL> kk i see
[18:10] <bazhang> :)
[18:11] <rw> gnea: I'm planning to bind it to F1 and F2
[18:11] <Gnea> remoteCTRL: sweet :D
[18:11] <arvind_khadri> !puregnome | cached
[18:11] <cached> arvind_khadri: thanks. that's the one :)
[18:11] <fyrestrtr> NineTeen67Comet: did you read the factoid from the bot?
[18:11] <arvind_khadri> cached, welcome :)
[18:12] <NineTeen67Comet> fyrestrtr: I'll read more .. but yes .. I am familiar with fuse and ntfs-3g ..
[18:12] <Gnea> rw: now, do you want the keys bound only in console, or with the gui?
[18:12] <fyrestrtr> NineTeen67Comet: read the first line :)
[18:13] <rw> gnea: I'm using fluxbox, the way to bind keys is 'shortcut keys :Exec "insert command here"'
[18:13] <NineTeen67Comet> !ntfs > NineTeen67Comet
[18:13] <rw> So I need that command
[18:13] <rw> my google skills are failing me
[18:13] <Gnea> rw: what about searching for: fluxbox keybind
[18:14] <rw> gnea: I'll search some more. Should I find the solution, I'll post it
[18:14] <smellynoser> Hey - I just logged into one of my servers and even though I have a limited account, it's showing: "[ashley@www ~] #" rather than "[ashley@www
[18:14] <Gnea> rw: actually, i just did, the first link tells you how to do it right off the bat
[18:15] <smellynoser> # rather than $ anyway
[18:15] <smellynoser> What's up with it?
[18:15] <remoteCTRL> Gnea: what precisely?
[18:15] <Gnea> remoteCTRL: oh, well i already told him/her how to search for it. it's right there, can't miss it.
[18:16] <rw> gnea: I alsa found it. Was using the wrong terms (my english is limited)
[18:16] <Gnea> but http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/newdoc.keybindings.php has the solution
[18:16] <Gnea> rw: good luck :)
[18:16] <rw> Thanks
[18:16] <rw> :p
[18:16] <CatEater> why was i supposed to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[18:16] <NineTeen67Comet> fyrestrtr: doesn't look like that link works for this situation .. I ran diskmounter (sudo sh ./diskmounter .. and it said /dev/sda1 (my windows partition) was already in my fstab .. It isn't but I'm not super familiar with how udev handles drives and such on boot.
[18:16] <Gnea> CatEater: who told you to edit that?
[18:17] <fyrestrtr> NineTeen67Comet: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[18:17] <CatEater> okay, nobody said edit
[18:17] <remoteCTRL> Gnea: i meant you wrote "sweet" further up, meaning?
[18:17] <NineTeen67Comet> fyrestrtr: K ..
[18:17] <CatEater> you said it might be wrong and wols_ said to cat it
[18:17] <Gnea> remoteCTRL: oh! the brainstorming thing, didn't know about that
[18:18] <Gnea> CatEater: so you assumed that it should be editted?
[18:18] <CatEater> well i can always change it back if it doesn't work
[18:18] <remoteCTRL> Gnea: oh, ok me neither, bazhang is the brainiac in here:)
[18:18] <opthans> fstab wont save my mount after reboot why?
[18:19] <NineTeen67Comet> fyrestrtr: http://pastebin.com/de061fbd .. I'm going to add .. /dev/sda1       /media/WinBlows_Drive   ntfs    defaults        0       0
[18:19] <Gnea> CatEater: so what's the problem?
[18:19] <opthans> I added this line to /etc/fstab 192.168.0.169:/shares/internal/PUBLIC on /media/nfs-mybook type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.0.169) <----- but after a reboot its not there anymore and my unit isnt mounted WHY?
[18:19] <CatEater> i can run the install and most of the boot process but it always ends up with video garbage and then blank, regardless of which boot option
[18:20] <nova> hello
[18:21] <LSD|Ninja> o/
[18:21] <RoboJoint> i've upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and now my external drives do not automount on start. I understand the the fstab thing, but is there something that changed or maybe I missed that prevents them from mounting? any help is appreciated!
[18:21] <arvind_khadri> !hi | nova
[18:21] <nova> hey
[18:21] <hulk08> whats up fellas
[18:21] <Gnea> CatEater: what video card do you use?
[18:21] <LSD|Ninja> RoboJoint: it's not recommended to upgrade to 8.10 yet and also, #ubuntu+1 is the channel for Intrepid issues
[18:21] <CatEater> i think it's an S3 Trio64, not sure
[18:22] <RoboJoint> ah
[18:22] <RoboJoint> sorry about that
[18:22] <RoboJoint> thank you
[18:22] <Otacon22> how can i use a cluster except for compiling, rendering and cracking?
[18:22] <Gnea> CatEater: lspci | grep VGA  <-- that will tell you what it is
[18:22] <fyrestrtr> Otacon22: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:23] <RoboJoint> LSD|Ninja, is there a way to downgrade back to hardy?
[18:23] <CatEater> 00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+]
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> RoboJoint, fresh install
[18:23] <RoboJoint> thats what i was afraid of
[18:23] <Gnea> bbiaf, weather is getting nasty
[18:23] <LSD|Ninja> RoboJoint: you *might* be able to revert your sources.list but that may makes things worse. Better just to reinstall and keep the Intrepid experiemtns for a seperate machine
[18:24] <opthans> I added this line to /etc/fstab 192.168.0.169:/shares/internal/PUBLIC on /media/nfs-mybook type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.0.169) <----- but after a reboot its not there anymore and my unit isnt mounted WHY?
[18:24] <Sp0tter> Why do you have to recompile the keyring to make an auto install cd.  There should  be an easier way.
[18:25] <RoboJoint> LSD|Ninja: if i did the fresh install, wowuld my home folder still work?
[18:25] <tritium> RoboJoint: is it separate partition?
[18:26] <RoboJoint> no
[18:26] <arvind_khadri> RoboJoint, make a tarball of your home folder  and after re-install untar it
[18:26] <tritium> RoboJoint: then, no
[18:26] <LSD|Ninja> tritium: can you elect not to reformat certain partitions in the insaller? I don't remember
[18:26] <tritium> LSD|Ninja: yes
[18:26] <RoboJoint> got it, thanks for the help everyone
[18:29] <elexodus> Hey all.
[18:29] <elexodus> I need a little FTP help
[18:30] <vtisza> Hi!
[18:30] <vtisza> Can someone help me? I just installed ubuntu and I cant hear any sound
[18:31] <elexodus> vtisza: goto #alsa
[18:31] <bazhang> vtisza, open a terminal and type alsamixer and make sure nothing is muted
[18:31] <jazzkutya> vtisza: did you try settings in system/preferences/sound?
[18:32] <bazhang> vtisza, also check sound prefernces and set to alsa over autodetect
[18:32] <elexodus> am I banned or something?
[18:32] <elexodus> Can anyone see this?
[18:32] <Gillpy> elexodus: you haven't asked a question
[18:32] <vtisza> yes
[18:32] <vtisza> but nothing is muted
[18:32] <elexodus> Gillpy: I need a little FTP help
[18:32] <elexodus> got a moment?
[18:33] <kenkku> elexodus: what kind of help? please just ask
[18:33] <elexodus> I need help identifying my FTP server, and directing it to the correct partician.
[18:34]  * fyrestrtr read that as I need help identifying my FTP served and directing it to the correct politician.
[18:34] <puwei> hi all, my firefox  can't visit secure web site, i even try the google ,and so many people get the same problem, but no one give the solution.
[18:34] <newuser_> need some help!, I have been experiencing some problems while palying videos. Since I upgraded to 8.04, sometimes when I play a video, the screen goes black, and I have to shutdown my laptop. Anyone has any experience dealing with this issue?
[18:34] <bazhang> newuser_, turn off compiz
[18:35] <newuser_> bazhang, how can I do that?
[18:35] <xttocs> Hey guys.  I've put irssi in it's own launcher that uses the command 'gnome-terminal -x irssi'.  How can I have the launcher set the title of the terminal as well?
[18:35] <bazhang> newuser_, alt f2 metacity --replace
[18:35] <CatEater> do i want the xorg.conf in /etc/X11 or a different one?
[18:35] <fyrestrtr> newuser_: System > Preferences > Appearance
[18:36] <Myrtti> xttocs: I always refer to man gnome-terminal myself
[18:36] <fyrestrtr> CatEater: in /etc/X11
[18:36] <Gnea> CatEater: that's the only xorg.conf that counts
[18:36] <puwei> hi all, my firefox  can't visit secure web site(https:// live gmail), i even try the google ,and so many people get the same problem, but no one give the solution.
[18:36] <fyrestrtr> puwei: what is the error you get?
[18:36] <CatEater> great, these instructions must be for ubuntu 5.something then
[18:36] <fyrestrtr> CatEater: what are you trying to do?
[18:36] <xttocs> I've tried the --title param but it doesn't seem to work, Myrtti
[18:36] <elexodus> Anybody have experience with ProFTP?
[18:37] <Myrtti> xttocs: hm.
[18:37] <CatEater> i'm trying to get it to boot, at all
[18:37] <CatEater> i can run the install and most of the boot process but it always ends up with video garbage and then blank, regardless of which boot option
[18:37] <puwei> fyrestrtr  nothing hapen ,  just waiting for the web, but years ago nothing happen
[18:37] <fyrestrtr> CatEater: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[18:37] <xttocs> Myrtti: --title=TEST or --title="TEST"
[18:37] <kenkku> elexodus: so what you need is help setting up the ftp server?
[18:37] <Gnea> CatEater: some instructions are, but some port over, while others don't. you should make a list of which ones aren't and post them to the brainstorm page.
[18:37] <newuser_> bazhang, fyrestrtr, Thank you
[18:37] <bazhang> np
[18:37] <Gnea> CatEater: developers will actually *read* them and do something about it
[18:38] <fyrestrtr> puwei: do you have the same problem with Opera or any other browser?
[18:38] <elexodus> kenkku: I thought I had it setup, but now I'm getting " Fatal: error processing configuration file" when I try to restart the FTP server.
[18:38] <Myrtti> xttocs: check how your default terminal handles titles, if it is forcing it not to use the title or something - or better yet, do a new profile
[18:38] <xttocs> Myrtti: Is there a bash startup script that might be resetting the name?
[18:38] <fyrestrtr> elexodus: sounds like you have a syntax error.
[18:38] <puwei> fyrestrtr  yes , i tryed opera and swiftfox
[18:38] <Myrtti> xttocs: you can tweak all the setting by doing a new terminal which you can pick to use with a command line parameter
[18:38] <fyrestrtr> puwei: and you are unable to browse https on all of them?
[18:38] <Myrtti> xttocs: s/a new terminal/a new terminal profile/
[18:38] <xttocs> Myrtti: What do you mean?
[18:39] <Myrtti> xttocs: edit - profiles ...
[18:39] <puwei> fyrestrtr  let,me try,
[18:39] <CatEater> not ready for the desktop
[18:39] <newuser_> bazhang, I do not know if you could help me with this. When I plug in my external hdd, it gets mounted into a new folder, but such folder gets duplicated everytime I plug the hdd. The folder name changes from Hdd_ to Hdd__, Hdd___, and so... Any suggestion on how to fix this?
[18:39] <elexodus> kenkku: /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[18:40] <elexodus> kenkku: http://pastebin.ca/1084436
[18:40] <xttocs> Myrtti: I'll give it a shot, thanks
[18:40] <bazhang> newuser_, how are you removing the hdd
[18:40] <yoyoned> newuser_: are you unmounting the drive before you remove it?
[18:41] <amikrop> Can't I group my contects in Skype?
[18:41] <newuser_> nope, sometimes when I try, it does not allow me to unmount, and I just unplug it
[18:41] <Anacleto> hola
[18:41] <newuser_> hola
[18:41] <yoyoned> newuser_: it gives it a new folder when it's not unmounted
[18:41] <Anacleto> friki
[18:41] <newuser_> yoyoned, all right, I see
[18:41] <puwei> fyrestrtr   loks like  just  gmai ,and google.com , but noproblem with google.cn
[18:41] <newuser_> any suggestion on how to delete old folders?
[18:41] <puwei> fyrestrtr   loks like  just  gmail ,and google.com , but noproblem with google.cn
[18:42] <fyrestrtr> puwei: maybe its your proxy
[18:42] <Anacleto> sabeis k an pillado a pikachu con metalgreymon prokreando??
[18:42] <yoyoned> Anacleto: !es
[18:42] <Ahadiel> !es
[18:42] <fyrestrtr> newuser_: well, first you'd want to find old folders :)
[18:42] <Anacleto> seguramente saldra un pikamon
[18:42] <esac> when i login, the background goes brown for a few moments .. i have my desktop background set to black. is there anyway to override the brown. i am trying to go from a black&white gdm to a black&white theme cleanly
[18:42] <Anacleto> fuck
[18:42] <fyrestrtr> newuser_: and to do that, you need to define what is "old"
[18:42] <Anacleto> fuck your mother
[18:42] <bazhang> Anacleto, not here
[18:43] <newuser_> fyrestrtr, I got them
[18:43] <gordonjcp> !es | Anacleto
[18:43] <ubuntu__> guys, is there some 32 and 64 bit grub versions, or is it 16bit, or how is it with grub? anyone?
[18:43] <arvind_khadri> !language | Anacleto
[18:43] <nickrud> Anacleto profanity gets you a ban quickly, fair warning
[18:43] <Anacleto> ubottu vete a tomar por
[18:43] <fyrestrtr> newuser_: rm is the command to remove files (and folders) from the Terminal
[18:43] <Anacleto> el recto
[18:43] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu__: grub doesn't care about 64 or 32
[18:43] <puwei> fyrestrtr  i haven't set my proxy
[18:43] <rEdwoRm> ga
[18:44] <fyrestrtr> puwei: your provider might have a proxy.
[18:44] <newuser_> fyrestrtr, "rm: cannot remove `HP317EXT': Is a directory"
[18:44] <fyrestrtr> puwei: the bottom line is, it is not a problem with firefox.
[18:44] <fyrestrtr> newuser_: you can only remove directories that are empty
[18:44] <ubuntu__> fyrestrtr; as i was thinking, but how mutch bit is grub then? 16 or?
[18:44] <newuser_> fyrestrtr, is there any commando to delete the folder and all of its content?
[18:44] <Bonster> rm -rf
[18:44] <arvind_khadri> ubuntu,__ AFAIK there is nothing as such with grub
[18:45] <nickrud> newuser_ rm -rf /path/to/folder, never run just rm -f
[18:45] <|Kamen|> I am having trouble with a usb drive. when I start the machine with the drive inserted, everything is great. when I insert the drive while the system is already running, I get nothing but the distant sound of gremlins laughing
[18:45] <puwei> fyrestrtr ok thanks , but i use windows don't have the problem
[18:45] <ubuntu__> i think its logical, but i wonder how mutch bit it is?
[18:45] <newuser_> fyrestrtr, the strangest thing is that I went into that folder, and I did a "ls", but nothing showed up
[18:45] <CatEater> how do i switch from windows to linux
[18:46] <ubuntu__> like bios or something,,,
[18:46] <fyrestrtr> newuser_: there might be hidden files, try ls -a
[18:46] <Gillpy> gremlins?
[18:46] <Bonster> to remove empty folder u need to use rm -rf
[18:46] <bazhang> CatEater, get the livecd and install
[18:46] <newuser_> fyrestrtr,  got . and ..
[18:46] <CatEater> i can't even ask the right questions if i start with what i think is the first one
[18:47] <xttocs> Is there any command line screen -r "BLAH" that will automatically create session "BLAH" if it doesn't exist?
[18:47] <cypha> i have a windows and ubuntu dual boot, how can i format the partition my ubuntu is on?
[18:47] <fyrestrtr> newuser_: if you have dir1/dir2/dir3, and you try to delete dir1, while dir3 is empty, but dir2 has a file, it will not work.
[18:47] <xttocs> command like screen -r***
[18:47] <fyrestrtr> xttocs: screen -ar
[18:47] <|Kamen|> Gillpy: the gremlins were a joke. still stumped by the usb stuff though
[18:48] <fyrestrtr> |Kamen|: what release?
[18:48] <newuser_> fyrestrtr, I understand. The thing is that I am trying to delete dir3 directly
[18:48] <fyrestrtr> newuser_: rm dir3
[18:48] <xttocs> fyrestrtr: that didn't work
[18:48] <russK> anyone know will vmware server 1.0.6 run a windows vista guest OS?
[18:48] <cypha> can i format my ubuntu partition from windows?
[18:48] <xttocs> fyrestrtr: didn't create a new session
[18:49] <|Kamen|> fyrestrtr: hardy, all updates applied
[18:49] <Gillpy> cypha: #windows
[18:49] <newuser_> fyrestrtr, sorry to bother you again, but I got the same error message that it is a folder. And such folder has only . and .. ( I suppose those are filesystem files)
[18:49] <xttocs> fyrestrtr: screen -dR did the trick though
[18:50] <xttocs> fyrestrtr: thanks
[18:50] <linduxed> is anyone aware of the problem that all of a sudden only one or no applications can have sound...generally in these cases amarok say that the device is busy
[18:50] <nickrud> russK yes, but vista home/basic aren't licensed for it (last I looked)
[18:51] <newuser_> fyrestrtr, I got it, using Bonster suggestion to use rm -rf :)
[18:51] <nickrud> linduxed yes, some apps don't play nice with other sound users.
[18:51] <newuser_> Bonster, fyrestrtr: Thanks guys
[18:52] <AngryElf> how can I force apt-get to completely reinstall apache, blowing up any configs and starting from scratch? -- i've tried removing it and reinstalling it, but it leaves configs lying around, and doesn't install it correctly
[18:52] <russK> nickrud:  you mean msoft license says you can't run vista under vmware/virtual box?
[18:53] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: don't get too angry :) sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename && sudo apt-get install packagename
[18:53] <Kagee> AngryElf: apt-get purge apache2 probably
[18:53] <nickrud> AngryElf you need to remove  --purge    dpkg -l *apache* | grep ^ii , that list of packages
[18:53] <AngryElf> ty
[18:53] <theclaw> is the bytecode interpreted in freetype on ubuntu hardy enabled?
[18:53] <linduxed> nickrud: any remedy for this issue? because right now i think ive lost all sound because of this (well except in pidgin)
[18:54] <nickrud> linduxed there is, but I'm sound config challenged. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578&page=25 is recommended by experts
[18:55] <fyrestrtr> theclaw: no.
[18:55] <markturnip> Hey, I have a Mac formatted external drive which won't mount in Leopard. DiskWarrior suggests it's a hardware failure. However Ubuntu will mount it fine, I just don't have permissions to access some folders.
[18:55] <nickrud> linduxed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 sorry, I had a page in the middle bookmarked
[18:55] <fyrestrtr> markturnip: mount it with a liberal umask
[18:55] <theclaw> fyrestrtr: since when is it disabled? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275421 says it is
[18:56] <markturnip> I wonder if anyone know if I can fix the drive to work on my Mac, or otherwise authenticate it to let me copy the files off....
[18:56] <theclaw> fyrestrtr: ..says it is enabled
[18:56] <newuser_> I got this new error: there is a shortcut under places that has no description, only the folder icon. When I click it, I got this error:Could not open location 'file:///home/user/r%B3%ECN,%A6p%05%D9%C4%1E%E6%F3y%D7%15%9F%7Cr%C3%1A8%12%91%C1%09%8Fq%101%97%CB%9D%3Bw%3E%F3%AE%AF. Any suggestion on how to delete this?
[18:56] <fyrestrtr> theclaw: font-config
[18:57] <theclaw> fyrestrtr: "font-config"
[18:57] <theclaw> ?
[18:57] <fyrestrtr> yes.
[18:57] <theclaw> fyrestrtr: what do you mean with "font-config"?
[18:57] <linduxed> nickrud: thx for the ling
[18:57] <nickrud> newuser_ open the file manger, use bookmarks->edit
[18:57] <linduxed> *link
[18:57] <fyrestrtr> configure it with fontconfig-config
[18:58] <fyrestrtr> it will also tell you the current setting.
[18:58] <nickrud> linduxed you got the revised link?
[18:58] <markturnip> fyrestrtr: liberal umask, any links for help?
[18:58] <theclaw> fyrestrtr: sorry, my question wasn't very concise I see. I mean is the byte code interpreted feature *compiled in* into freetype on ubuntu hardy?
[18:58] <theclaw> fyrestrtr: there are version of freetype which lack support for the bci, because of patent issues
[18:58] <fyrestrtr> theclaw: ah, I believe its compiled in, but disabled.
[18:59] <NETWizz> Hi
[18:59] <fyrestrtr> theclaw: fontconfig-config will tell you :)
[18:59] <NETWizz> I had an upgrade to Hardy fail.  H Ow do I restart the upgrade?
[18:59] <newuser_> nickrud, got it, thanks :)
[18:59] <fyrestrtr> NETWizz: sudo dpkg-configure -a
[19:00] <linduxed> nickrud: i gotta say i didnt even bother to check the first one you sent
[19:00] <theclaw> fyrestrtr: I set fontconfig-config to "native".. but AFAIR, I didn't recognize any difference
[19:00] <theclaw> but I'll try again, this time with screenshots
[19:00] <nickrud> linduxed heh. All good then
[19:00] <NETWizz> thank you
[19:02] <newuser_> bazhang, remember I asked you about the black screen and you suggest to turn off compiz? Well, now the videos are played very slow, and there is no audio at all. Any suggestion about this problem/
[19:03] <bazhang> newuser_, which app? tried vlc?
[19:03] <newuser_> bazhang, tried mplayer and totem
[19:04] <newuser_> bazhang, vlc plays it ok, but still no audio
[19:04] <bazhang> newuser_, not sure about those; vlc 'works for me'
[19:04] <nitai> i change my mouse "theme" in xubuntu and it doest change when over desktop , only some apps any one know why ?
[19:04] <theclaw> fyrestrtr: thanks a lot. Seems that I simply forgot to restart firefox
[19:05] <itrebal> is it possible to prevent X from loading entirely on a live-cd?
[19:05] <Stargazer> I want to add a right-click option in Konqueror so that i can "Extract here" from an archive. any ideas ?
[19:05] <NETWizz> does sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a run in a command window
[19:05] <NETWizz> It does not look like the real installer
[19:05] <nickrud> itrebal not really.
[19:05] <itrebal> what about an interactive boot to stop it from loading?
[19:05] <newuser_> bazhang, I think I am having problems with alsa, is there any command I can use to restart it, or do a manual check?
[19:05] <fyrestrtr> theclaw: that's what I was going to suggest next (restart the app) :) Glad you got it going.
[19:05] <rw> Does anyone here use sonata? I have an issue with the command "sonata prev" or "sonata stop". It takes around 4 second before the commands comes trough. While using it's gui, it's immediately.
[19:05] <itrebal> the computer I'm trying to use it on locks entirely when X tries to start
[19:05] <nickrud> NETWizz yes, it runs in a terminal, completes the install of whatever got half done. Then run sudo apt-get -f install to fix mre
[19:05] <fyrestrtr> itrebal: on the livecd? No.
[19:06] <klstein> Where can I download the Broadcom 4328 drivers?
[19:06] <bazhang> newuser_, check sound prefs and set all to alsa instead of autodetect
[19:06] <klstein> bcmwl5.inf, etc.
[19:06] <klstein> I forgot.
[19:06] <CatEater> how do i access previous versions of pages on the wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToConfigureUbuntuForMicrosoftVirtualPC2004 is false and i'm looking for a past version that might be useful
[19:07] <elmajestro> hello
[19:07] <ryan_> hello, does anyone know how to change file permissions on "file system"
[19:07] <Onyx> Alrighty, then... picture this if you will.  10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes, in my 'need to know' pose, just outside of Area 51, contemplating the whole 'chosen people' thingy, when a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this.  Cutting right angle donuts on a dime, and stopping right at my Birkenstocks, and me yelping...  Holy fucking shit!
[19:07] <elmajestro> hello can I help me
[19:07] <nitai> klstein if youre on gutsy or hardy just use System>Hardware Drivers they get downloaded from there
[19:07] <elmajestro> I have a problme
[19:07] <NETWizz> Fusion and Avant Window Navigator won't run
[19:07] <bazhang> CatEater, any particular reason you need vpc 2004? vbox vmware and others are much more modern and robust vms
[19:07] <NETWizz> I think the Nvidia driver is broken
[19:07] <Kagee> ryan_: why would you want to do that?
[19:08] <NETWizz> When I am all done fixing, I should just install it
[19:08] <CatEater> can't use vmware, won't let me create a vm
[19:08] <CatEater> says so on the page at least
[19:08] <klstein> nitai: I don't have internet access on that computer right now.
[19:08] <nickrud> Onyx that's better for #ubuntu-offtopic, minus the profanity
[19:08]  * CatEater looks up vbox
[19:08] <klstein> nitai: I need to download onto my flash drive and then put it onto my Ubuntu.
[19:08] <elmajestro> my mouse doesn't work
[19:08] <fyrestrtr> CatEater: virtualbox
[19:08] <ryan_> i would like to change it because for some reason i cannot write or copy anything into it
[19:08] <Onyx> w0rd nickrud.
[19:08] <klstein> nitai: So I need a website.
[19:08] <elmajestro> help me please
[19:08] <nitai> i have a deb package
[19:08] <ryan_> im new so
[19:09] <Kagee> ryan_: why would you want to copy / move anything to "file system" ( slash -> / )
[19:09] <elmajestro> ryan help me
[19:09] <elmajestro> please
[19:09] <Kagee> ryan_: You keep your files at /home/yourusername
[19:09] <CatEater> yay i have something new to try
[19:09] <Flannel> ryan_: You don't need/want to change those permissions, there are other ways you go about doing that when you need to.
[19:10] <Kagee> ryan_: But you probably dont want to start savinf files at /. You could create /extra and put files there, if you dont want to have them under /home/username
[19:10] <ryan_> ok well im trying to digg into apacha, just trying to learn somenew things, i followed the link http://www.anujpathania.blogspot.com/2008/06/installing-apache-web-server-on-ubuntu.html
[19:11] <Flannel> ryan_: Try this instead: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[19:11] <Kagee> ryan_: And the problem is? Your'e not allowed to put files in /var/www ?
[19:11] <Kagee> Flannel: The guide looks OK
[19:12] <ryan_> ok ya i figured that but wasnt sure
[19:12] <Flannel> Kagee: Mmm, now that it loads, yeah.
[19:12] <Flannel> ryan_: actually, that guide is fine.  The problem you're running into is putting stuff into /var/www, because its owned by root.
[19:12] <Flannel> Oh, Kagee's two steps ahead of me.
[19:13] <Kagee> ryan_: Well, you can change the permission on /var/www so you can put files there, put it's common to have webpages in /home/username/public_html
[19:13] <mhz128> hello world
[19:13] <Kagee> well, hello mhz128
[19:13] <mhz128> How do I change application file associations? ie. mp3 players
[19:14] <BBin> Any way to make gnome desktop launchers behave like KDE ones?
[19:14] <Kagee> BBin: In what way?
[19:14] <araen> hello
[19:14] <ryan_> ok
[19:14] <th0r> mhz128, try right clicking on the file in the filemanager and choose 'Properties'. Not sure about gnome, but that works in xfce
[19:14] <BBin> The react on the first click I belive, anyway thatä's what i want
[19:14] <BBin> @kagee
[19:14] <Kagee> ryan_: What do you prefer?
[19:15] <ryan_> i guess the public
[19:15] <ryan_> i installed apache
[19:15] <mhz128> th0r: neat, does that change the association for all files of one type? or just that particular file
[19:15] <araen> i've just installed php/mysql/apache/etc... but i've a problem
[19:15] <th0r> mhz128, for all of that extension. Again, not sure about gnome...let me know
[19:15] <Kagee> mhz128: All files
[19:16] <Kagee> i checked
[19:16] <Bllz> i can't select "important security updates" in software sources.... what gives?
[19:16] <araen> i've created a link /var/www/ to /home/araen/site/
[19:16] <araen>  /var/www/site/
[19:16] <Casey> Hey guys
[19:16] <Kagee> ryan_: Someone how's using apache have to tell you what to activte, i'm using lighttp
[19:16] <araen> but when i'm going http://localhost/site
[19:16] <araen> i've an 403 error
[19:16] <Josh2> when i install the nvidia drivers (form their website) onto my ubuntu machine, everything is great, until i reboot, then it's like the drivers cant be found. xorg boots in low res and i have to reinstall the driver and reboot X. - does anyone know what might be done to stop that problem ?
[19:16] <mhz128> is Nautilus the equivalent file manager?
[19:16] <araen> forbidden
[19:16] <mhz128> for gnome
[19:16] <araen> can you help me ?
[19:16] <ryan_> ok
[19:17] <sciz> oh herro
[19:17] <th0r> mhz128, yes, for gnome
[19:17] <ryan_> but is apache like an ftp or something
[19:17] <Flannel> ryan_: Its an http server
[19:17] <ryan_> ok
[19:17] <Kagee> ryan_: apache is a webserver. You can view pages from the server in your webbrowser
[19:17] <nickrud> araen a simple thing to do is:   sudo a2enmod userdir && sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 force-reload, and move the stuff from ~/site to ~/public_html. It's accessible at localhost/~<username>
[19:18] <Kagee> ryan_: you need another program to upload files using ftp
[19:18] <mhz128> awesome! thank you
[19:18] <Kagee> ryan: sudo a2enmod userdir && sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 force-reload
[19:18] <Bllz> why am i unable to check the "important security updates" box under software sources?
[19:18] <sciz> is there a channel for C++ help on this server?
[19:18] <Flannel> sciz: ##C++
[19:18] <fyrestrtr> try #c++
[19:19] <ryan_> ya i was just wonder since apache installed then y would the files be put in a locked folder
[19:19] <sciz> thanks :) i tried that, told me it didn't exist
[19:19] <Kagee> ryan_: sudo a2enmod userdir && sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 force-reload
[19:19] <allquixotic> sciz: hmm, try ##c, but very gently, lots of anti-C++ people there ;)
[19:19] <nickrud> Bllz put a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list  on paste.ubuntu.com. I'd guess there's a problem with the software sources app having trouble parsing that file
[19:19] <Flannel> sciz: ##C++ exists
[19:19] <Kagee> ryan_: the create public_html in your home folder and place som files there
[19:19] <ryan_> wut will that do
[19:19] <Bllz> nickrud:  okay. give me a sec
[19:19] <ryan_> ok
[19:20] <allquixotic> ##c++ worked for me, with a lowercase c
[19:20] <Kagee> ryan_: those files should be avalible on http://localhost/~tourusername
[19:20] <ryan_> just paste that into the terminal
[19:20] <ryan_> ok
[19:21] <Kagee> ryan_: first the whole sudo-line, then create the folder (public_html) and some files, then test it
[19:21] <elexodus> Anybody have experience with ProFTP?
[19:21] <Bllz> nickrud:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/30991/
[19:22] <fyrestrtr> ryan_: are you just trying to share files between two computers? If so, you don't need Apache
[19:22] <ryan_> ya kinda its not something i have to do like like an learning experience
[19:22] <ryan_> but yes
[19:22] <nickrud> Bllz you have security listed more than once, try commenting out (putting a # at the beginning of the line) lines 56 and 57
[19:23] <Bllz> nickrud. okay one sec
[19:23] <Kagee> BBin: Nautilus -> Prefrences -> Behaviour
[19:23] <sorin-mihai> hi. i'm trying to replace the swap partition with a swap file. anyone did this till now? anyone know a _good_ tutorial for this?
[19:23] <Flannel> !swap | sorin-mihai
[19:23] <nickrud> Bllz actually you only need line 57 sorry
[19:24] <BBin> Kagee: That applies to all of nautilus, i want only the desktop icons
[19:24] <Kagee> fyrestrtr: you explain the «moving files without apache»-part :)
[19:24] <Bllz> okay
[19:24] <Kagee> BBin; I see. give me a moment
[19:24] <fyrestrtr> Kagee: scp, ftp, nfs, NTFS, fuse
[19:24] <klstein> Can anyone help me find the bcm4328 file with bcmwl5.inf driver and rest of the stuff you need for ndiswrapper?
[19:24] <Kagee> fyrestrtr: not to me :-)
[19:24] <trigpin> i need help using ssh to connect from a ubuntu to a debian machine. i keep gettin this error  Name or service not known even know it ight address
[19:25] <fyrestrtr> trigpin: check your DNS
[19:25] <wx9j_> looking for tutorial on using gpg for protecting files on the drive.
[19:25] <Bllz> nickrud:  save and then sudo apt-get update?
[19:25] <snikker> how can i copy a real file instead of his simlink?
[19:25] <nickrud> Bllz yep
[19:25] <sugi> what's the command line for checking my 3D support?  it's like "gxlf"?
[19:26] <Bllz> nickrud:  still wont work
[19:26] <allquixotic> sugi: glxinfo | grep direct
[19:26] <sugi> allquixotic: thanks
[19:26] <Bllz> is there a way i can try to select those updates via command line?  maybe i'll get a more verbose error message
[19:26] <spasticteapot> Hmm.
[19:26] <trigpin> fyrestrtr:what am i looking
[19:26] <Flannel> Bllz: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:27] <fyrestrtr> trigpin: what do you want to do? transfer files between two computers? Or share files from one computer to many computers
[19:27] <klstein> Can anyone help me find the bcm4328 file with bcmwl5.inf driver and rest of the stuff you need for ndiswrapper?
[19:27] <Bllz> Flannel:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[19:27] <fyrestrtr> !bcm
[19:27] <nickrud> Bllz hm. save that copy, and try using the ones at aphroneo.net , they are a pretty much default setup. You can add back proposed and medibuntu if it works
[19:27] <Kagee> BBin: I'm sorry, i couldn't find anything
[19:27] <klstein> Okay, I found it. ^^;
[19:28] <ryan_> which would be the easiest
[19:28] <Bllz> nickrud:  okay.  i'll do that later on, thanks for the help!
[19:28] <Bllz> Flannel:  thanks for the help!
[19:28] <sorin-mihai> Flannel, thanks.
[19:28] <montpelie> HI THERE, I've got a Gateway Tablet PC with Gutsy on it but I'm having problems getting the built.in microphone to work, any suggestions?
[19:28] <BBin> Kagee: Thanks anyway :)
[19:28] <trigpin> fyrestrtr: i was hoping to dowload files between computers
[19:30] <fyrestrtr> use ftp
[19:30] <fyrestrtr> not apache
[19:30] <Flannel> use sftp, its a lot easier to set up than ftp (install openssh-server... done!)
[19:30]  * fyrestrtr is having dinner
[19:30] <Bubalooshi> How can I get PearPC working on Ubuntu Hardy?
[19:30] <montpelie> HI THERE, I've got a Gateway Tablet PC with Gutsy on it but I'm having problems getting the built.in microphone to work, any suggestions?
[19:32] <eie> !seen iei
[19:32] <Bubalooshi> What is the repository for installing PearPC on Ubuntu 8.04/Hardy?
[19:32] <ryan_> well maybe this is for another time thanks a bunch tho <Kagee> and <fyrestrtr>
[19:33] <Kagee> BBin ?
[19:33] <BBin> Kagee: Yes
[19:33] <markturnip> Hey, I have a Mac formatted external drive which won't mount in Leopard. DiskWarrior suggests it's a hardware failure. However Ubuntu will mount it fine, I just don't have permissions to access some folders.
[19:33] <BBin> still here
[19:33] <markturnip> I wonder if anyone know if I can fix the drive to work on my Mac, or otherwise authenticate it to let me copy the files off....
[19:33] <AMorozov> Hi! Does anybody know how to remove binding of the 'Meta' modifier (Mod4 if I remember correctly) from the corresponding Alt key ?I have set upOption          "XkbOptions"    "grp:lctrl_lshift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,altwin:meta_win"in the appropriate section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf but Emacs still think that M- is on Alt key (which is [traditionally] uncomfortable for me)
[19:33] <markturnip> I've downloaded testdisk, but I feel sure it's crashing, either that or it's really slow!
[19:33] <Kagee> BBin: You CAN say that Nautilus shoudn't draw the desktop, and have another program do that
[19:34] <BBin> Kagee: How is that on the CPU?
[19:34] <Kagee> probably not mutch
[19:34] <BBin> I've got loads of spare memory but the cpu is kind of loaded
[19:34] <Bubalooshi> How can I install PearPC on Ubuntu Hardy?
[19:34] <klstein> Is anyone else getting "404 not found" when trying to install packages?
[19:35] <klstein> Like a 404 error? It can't fetch the packages?
[19:35] <AMorozov> I know that some other distros put an xinit script that does such a modification via xmodmap (once upon a time RedHat guys decided that would be fine to bind Meta to Alt for Emacsers) but I can't find anything like that script in Ubuntu
[19:35] <BBin> Kagee: so what program should I use? Kde's desktop drawer?
[19:35] <tonohono> How might I go about forcing a downgrade from python2.5 2.5.2-2ubuntu5 to python2.5 2.5.2-2ubuntu4? Attempts to force the version in Synpatic have been unsuccessful.
[19:35] <Kagee> BBin: You probably dont want to mix kde programs into that mix yet
[19:37] <Zopiac> what programs in Sessions manager are necessary to have ubuntu running? (not, say, the gnome-bars, but to actually log in, etc)
[19:38] <alex-weej> Zopiac: are you trying to be clever and trim down?
[19:38] <Josh2> anyone ? - when i boot my machine, the nvidia drivers are being forgotten, and i have reinstall them for x to work correctly
[19:38] <Zopiac> @alex...sure?
[19:38] <Kagee> BBin: I know it's possible, but i cant find a replacement program
[19:38] <alex-weej> Zopiac: they're all necessary for some functionality to work
[19:39] <fyrestrtr> Zopiac: none
[19:39] <Zopiac> well, i mean, i want to have pidgin, compiz, and gnome-do open at startup, thats it (i believe). can i take off EVERYTHING else, or does something(s) have to stay
[19:40] <BBin> Kagee: I'm googling too
[19:40] <fyrestrtr> Zopiac: the login is taken care of by the gdm, so beyond that -- what you do is upto you.
[19:40] <Zopiac> because i left my computer with only those programs on the startup list, but something bugged and i had to reset my account prefs to have that account open ANYTHING at login
[19:40] <fyrestrtr> tonohono: you can fiddle with the policy file for it, and force a version
[19:42] <Abed> i would like to install bluesnarfer but i get this
[19:42] <trigpin> fyrestrtr : manged to connect used ip instead of host name , i use ssh because its more sercure than ftp
[19:42] <Abed> !pastebin | Abed
[19:43] <tonohono> fyrestrtr, thanks for the info, though a split second before ye responded I managed to install the ubuntu4 package by manually downloading the .deb and kindly performing dpkg -i --force-version down
[19:43] <masteredu> Ubuntu rules :P
[19:43] <tonohono> er, --force-downgrade
[19:43] <Abed> i am trying to "sudo make" but i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/30998/
[19:44] <kenkku> Abed: first of all, make does not require sudo, since it only compiles
[19:44] <kenkku> Abed: second, did you run ./configure?
[19:45] <Abed> kenkku there is no ./configure
[19:45] <kenkku> Abed: oh, really? weird
[19:45] <Abed> yeah
[19:45] <kenkku> Abed: did you read the install file?
[19:45] <Sydero> Is bytecode interpreter enabled by default?
[19:45] <ajhtiredwolf> Hey, im having a problem in ubuntu possibly with the graphics driver, when starting up instead of showing the splash screen it will show white lines where the taskbars should be. and when doing an animation in avant all the icons get similar white blocks over them till the animation is done
[19:45] <HymnToLife> kenkku: how is that weird? lots of programs don't need a configure scripts
[19:46] <Abed> kenkku the read me sucks but i will find another one and back to u
[19:46] <kenkku> HymnToLife: I haveb't encountered one yet. but yeah, well, maybe it's just so simple it doesn't need one
[19:46] <kenkku> Abed: you probably need some -dev library there
[19:47] <Sydero> IS THE BYTECODE INTERPRETER ENABLED BY DEFAULT?
[19:47] <kenkku> !patience | Sydero
[19:48] <clayg> anyone get gmailfs to work?
[19:48] <Sydero> no but then again I've never run it
[19:48] <kenkku> Abed: most probably libbluetooth2-dev or libbluetooth-dev
[19:48] <Abed> kenkku i will try libbluetooth2-dev
[19:48] <Abed> thnx
[19:49] <Josh2> anyone ? - when i boot my machine, the nvidia drivers are being forgotten, and i have reinstall them for x to work correctly <-- ok, got this licked. you have to add nvidia to /etc/modules (for next time someone is stuck on this problem)
[19:49] <mike44685> http://www.mein-privatvideo.net/?id=1755
[19:49] <XKpe> hi
[19:49] <ForsakenSoul> hey guys how do I play a 3gp video with sound ?
[19:50] <ForsakenSoul> the movie plays but there is no  sound
[19:50] <trigpin> ok , im running ubuntu hardy and i recently updated kernel though update manger and my wifi no longer works and i have to boot into and older kernel version.
[19:50] <trigpin> WHAT SHOULD I DO TO FIX IT ?
[19:50] <XKpe> i've installed the nvidia driver, downloaded from the website, and run it, and everything works good, but when i restart it goes back to the old driver
[19:50] <mgolisch> ForsakenSoul: it works here with a self compiled mplayer version
[19:50] <BBin> ForsakenSoul: Tried VLC? I've never had a problem playing any video in vlc
[19:50] <kenkku> trigpin: kernel vrom hardy-proposed?
[19:50] <Abed> kenkku i tried now make and it worked
[19:50] <Abed> thnx
[19:50] <mgolisch> but i had to install two libraries for the 3gp sound to work
[19:51] <Abed> but kenkku i have no idea wut to do next lol
[19:51] <Sydero> trigpin, when you updated the kernel did you configure it?
[19:51] <kenkku> Abed: most probably sudo make install
[19:51] <ForsakenSoul> BBin: yeah .. doesn't work
[19:51] <Sydero> which kernel version are you using trigpin?
[19:51] <trigpin> yes kernel from update manger , and i did not touch the kernel
[19:51] <kenkku> trigpin: is it kernel 2.6.24-20? and do you have a broadcom chipset?
[19:51] <ForsakenSoul> by default the audio track is disabled and the other audio track i japanese where there is no sound disregarding that we're talking in bulgarian there :D
[19:51] <kenkku> trigpin: did you use ndiswrapper before?
[19:51] <Abed> kenkku it didn't work no problema i will figure it out
[19:52] <Sydero> trigpin: What was your wireless network card?
[19:52] <ForsakenSoul> mgolisch: which libraries ?
[19:52] <Abed> kenkku there is a new file called bluesnarfer thnx bro everythin is cool now
[19:52] <franco> irc.whiffle.org/PARADISO
[19:53] <tophat> is there a such thing as a reliable web browser for the ubuntu platform?  im tierd of firefox crashing all time.
[19:54] <Sydero> Which version of firefox?
[19:54] <Sydero> sounds like your plugins/addons are at fault
[19:54] <tophat> 3.0.1 with all avaliable updates
[19:54] <ForsakenSoul> mgolisch: which libraries did you have to install to have sound for 3gp ?
[19:54] <sugi> So, for example, sudo mkdir /media/exampledir/ and then in the same terminal window wine /path/to/wine/game/ Does that mean I just messed up my wine directory?
[19:54] <NETWizz> do I enable subpixel rendering?
[19:54] <thomas__> Is there any "easier" ways for fan control? Than lm-sensors?
[19:55] <mgolisch> ForsakenSoul: http://www.penguin.cz/~utx/amr
[19:55] <ForsakenSoul> !3gp
[19:56] <arrrghhh> hey are there settings for display timeouts for the gdm login screen?  i have multiple users and the computer spends most of its time on that screen and i'd like to suspend the monitor quicker than when logged in...
[19:58] <Bill_Walton> I've got a schtupit=newbie question
[19:58] <medf-kg> ïðèâåò óðîæû
[19:58] <Bill_Walton> i'm new to ubuntu
[19:58] <H__> !question
[19:58] <Bsims> I am running the latest vlc on Ubuntu Heron, I am unable to go full screen, I am running a nvidia card. All I get is the screen dimming
[19:59] <Bill_Walton> just installing the sun jdk and have got the license agreement.  don't know how to accept it.  it's in the terminal.  displayin <Ok>.  what's the keystroke?
[19:59] <sugi> ﻿I am having issues with Morrowind on Wine 1.0.  http://pastebin.com/m5fe4156f
[20:00] <arrrghhh> Bsims, have you tried double clicking anywhere on the video?
[20:00] <arrrghhh> Bill_Walton, space
[20:00] <arrrghhh> if it's not enter
[20:00] <Bsims> arrrghhh: yeah, the entire screen goes dark, and gets darker and stays that way even after I close the video
[20:00] <arrrghhh> Bill_Walton, thinking about it you might have to tab to the ok.  sorry for the multiple lines
[20:01] <arrrghhh> Bsims, that sounds strange... this only occurs with vlc?
[20:01] <Bill_Walton> tab to Ok was it.  thanks!
[20:01] <Bsims> arrrghhh: correct
[20:01] <arrrghhh> Bsims, you're running the most current repo version?
[20:01] <arrrghhh> from apt
[20:02] <arrrghhh> 0.8.6e
[20:02] <Bsims> arrrghhh: Yup
[20:02] <jansen> hi.. how do i access /program 1/ in console?
[20:02] <arrrghhh> Bsims, have you tried mplayer?
[20:02] <jansen> i have a folder with space, how do i  access it??
[20:03] <arrrghhh> i love vlc, i use it all the time... never had that issue with it.
[20:03] <jansen> like: /folder 1/
[20:03] <Bsims> arrrghhh: even switched from the default to skins2 for interface
[20:03] <Bsims> I like mplayer but it doesn't read dvdmenus arrrghhh
[20:03] <arrrghhh> jansen, you need to read bash basics.  google it.
[20:03] <jansen> arrrghhh, whats the command??
[20:03] <arrrghhh> Bsims, ah.
[20:03] <jansen> like cd /files/1/ does not work
[20:03] <Bsims> jansen: cd "folder 1"
[20:03] <ere4si> jansen: put it in quotes - /"program 1"/
[20:03] <arrrghhh> jansen, cd is change directory, but you really need to read bash basics...
[20:03] <anupam> hi.. i am trying to echo enabled: 1 to /proc/acpi/acer/wireless but it fails me with write error: invalid argument. .. i cant manually writo to it either as vsync fails.. how do i get this done?
[20:03] <jansen> ok
[20:04] <Bsims> arrrghhh: I use vlc mostly for dvd-ISOs
[20:04] <Bsims> so I reallly really want to be able to go fullscreen
[20:04] <extra> hi
[20:04] <arrrghhh> Bsims, it has played everything i've thrown at it, with weird bugs but never anything like that
[20:05] <extra> quit
[20:05] <arrrghhh> Bsims, can you right click on the black and get a menu?
[20:05]  * Bsims laughs done it to me from the first time I tried it
[20:05] <Abed> i am using bluesnarfer security test on my cellphone but i received an error so any one btw the error is  open /dev/bluetooth/rfcomm/0, No such file or directory
[20:05] <Bsims> nope arrrghhh
[20:05] <Muntrue> Hola! Anyone know how i can change the font color of the bottom panel (in specific the application list)
[20:05] <arrrghhh> Bsims, well you can try uninstalling it and going to the vlc website (videolan.org) and trying a newer version...
[20:05] <Bsims> arrrghhh: I even filed a bug report against it
[20:05] <Bsims> and others have said the same thing
[20:05] <JustPie> Hey everyone
[20:06] <arrrghhh> Bsims, what video card?
[20:06] <Bsims> Ah let me check
[20:06] <Abed> JustPie can we help u?
[20:06] <Bsims> GeForce 6600 GT
[20:06] <obidiah> Bsims: have you tried disabling compiz?
[20:06] <Abed> ﻿ i am using bluesnarfer security test on my cellphone but i received an error so any one btw the error is  open /dev/bluetooth/rfcomm/0, No such file or directory
[20:06] <Bsims> obidiah: I am kde so its not running as far as I know
[20:07] <Muntrue> Hola! Anyone know how i can change the font color of the bottom panel (in specific the application list)
[20:07] <Bsims> obidiah: Nope compiz is not running
[20:07] <obidiah> bsims: is your nvidia card correctly configured in xorg.conf?
[20:08] <arrrghhh> Bsims, have you tried Kaffeine?
[20:08] <anupam> hi.. i am trying to echo enabled: 1 to /proc/acpi/acer/wireless but it fails me with write error: invalid argument. .. i cant manually writo to it either as vsync fails.. how do i get this done?
[20:08] <Bsims> obidiah: correctly configured however I beleve it doesn't set the screens physical size, and xorg doesn't automaticaly set that u[
[20:08] <arrrghhh> i mean i have used a 7600gt, 8600gt, 6800go all on kubuntu with multiple monitors & vlc...
[20:08] <Bsims> er up
[20:08] <Bill_Walton> Am I going to have problems with Netbeans if I don't have the Firefox Java-plugin?  I'm getting a "no installation candidate' for it when I do apt-get install.
[20:08] <Abed> ﻿ i am using bluesnarfer security test on my cellphone but i received an error so any one btw the error is  open /dev/bluetooth/rfcomm/0, No such file or directory
[20:08] <tophat> whats the directory that firefox installs to?
[20:09] <WindowSmasher> Afternoon all!
[20:09] <Abed> tophat depends on ur optiona
[20:09] <Abed> options*
[20:09] <arrrghhh> tophat, usually /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.1/ if you have the newest.  /usr/lib/ifrefox for ff2
[20:09] <WindowSmasher> I'm looking for assistance with my intel 3945 wireless light not working.
[20:09] <sugi> ﻿I am having issues with Morrowind on Wine 1.0.  http://pastebin.com/m5fe4156f
[20:09] <tophat> thanks arrrghhh
[20:09] <Sydero> just the light....
[20:09] <arrrghhh> er /usr/lib/firefox
[20:09] <thomas__> I fallowed a "fan control" guide, but ended up with "There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed" After running "pwmconfig". What can I do?
[20:09] <Bsims> arrrghhh: nope not tried it but I will
[20:10] <Abed> ﻿ i am using bluesnarfer security test on my cellphone but i received an error so any one btw the error is  open /dev/bluetooth/rfcomm/0, No such file or directory
[20:10] <arrrghhh> Bsims, do you have nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig installed?
[20:10] <Sydero> and?
[20:10] <Bsims> arrrghhh: Yes and both are working beautifly
[20:10] <WindowSmasher> I'm looking for assistance with my intel 3945 wireless light not working.
[20:10] <Sydero> so the directory doesn't exist abed
[20:11] <arrrghhh> Bsims, hrm... i would assume it's video card setup related, but i don't know.  i've never had that issue with vlc!
[20:11] <Sydero> What do you mean your light WindowSmasher
[20:11] <Sydero> on your laptop?
[20:11] <thomas__> If anybody here is experienced with fan controlling or similar, please msg me........ -----------
[20:11] <arrrghhh> Bsims, are you using kde3.5 or 4.1?
[20:11] <Abed> Sydero ﻿ and how can i get the directory?
[20:11] <WindowSmasher> Sydero: My wifi LED does not function
[20:12] <Sydero> hmmmm neither does mine WindowSmasher  :/
[20:12] <WindowSmasher> Sydero: I googled and found that installing unsupported drivers were supposed to solve the issue, but did not
[20:12] <obidiah> neither does mine
[20:12] <obidiah> nor does the little switch for airplane mode work
[20:12] <WindowSmasher> There are fixes. They work for some people
[20:12] <Bsims> arrrghhh: 3.5
[20:12] <Bsims> Eh thanks anyway arrrghhh
[20:13] <Sydero> ew 3.5
[20:13] <Sydero> get 4.1 :P
[20:13] <arrrghhh> Bsims, well i'd try a reinstall, maybe a newer version.
[20:13]  * Bsims nods
[20:13] <Bsims> arrrghhh: already tried and I nuked the .file for vlc
[20:14] <arrrghhh> hrm... have you noticed any similarities in hardware or anything with the others experiencing the bug?
[20:14] <ForsakenSoul> ok guys still can't get the 3gp to have sound installed the two libraries you gave me
[20:14] <Guest83262> hi
[20:14] <Sydero> What bug?
[20:14] <Bsims> Not that I can think of
[20:14] <ForsakenSoul> so how can I convert them to avi ?
[20:14] <genewitch> how do i kill X so i can install the NVIDIA binary?
[20:14] <Sydero> 3gp is a mac format
[20:14] <Bsims> Sydero: I can't get full screen to work on vlc when playing anyform of media
[20:14] <Sydero> vlc should be able to play 3gp natively
[20:14] <arrrghhh> genewitch, ctrl-alt-f1, then kill gdm.
[20:15] <genewitch> arrrghhh: isn't there a way to do it from within gnome?
[20:15] <ForsakenSoul> Sydero: I can't play it with vlc... it plays but with no sound
[20:15] <arrrghhh> genewitch, uhhh if you kill X... no graphical interface...
[20:15] <clayg> would i be crazy to run the reg ubuntu 32bit on a intel core 2 duo? lappy?
[20:15] <arrrghhh> lol
[20:15] <Sydero> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178455
[20:15] <Inventor66> Hi folks, I'm new here and I've brought my friend Blair.
[20:15] <Sydero> HOW TO: play 3gp movies with sound on ubuntu ...
[20:16] <blair> hello
[20:16] <randorfer> clayg, nope -- only if you had more than 4gb of ram, there are not that many good reasons to move to 64 bit yet as most programs are designed to run on 32bit
[20:16] <Inventor66> we had a few really beginner's questions about ubuntu
[20:17] <clayg> randorfer,  thanks
[20:17] <trigpin> need help updated kernel from 2.6.24-18-generic to next one up , wifi died , here is my driver info http://paste.ubuntu.com/31003/ , ubuntu hardy
[20:17] <ForsakenSoul> Sydero: I'm getting cvs [checkout aborted]: connect to mplayerhq.hu(213.144.138.186):2401 failed: Connection refused
[20:17] <blair> I have installed ubuntu on my system but it doesnt seem to see the sound card
[20:18] <mrtin> trigpin, i had the same problem, went back to 2.6.24-19
[20:18] <genewitch> arrrghhh: it was terminal sudo killall gdm
[20:18] <genewitch> :-)
[20:19] <arrrghhh> genewitch, yes and?
[20:19] <Inventor66> can anyone answer the question?
[20:19] <Drk_Guy> genewitch, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop/start/restart works better
[20:19] <kenkku> mrtin: did you have the problem with -20 or -19?
[20:19] <cbesco82> i need help
[20:19] <crimsun> trigpin: I don't even see a wifi interface there in that output.
[20:19] <cbesco82> can anyone tell me how to do that cube affect
[20:19] <randorfer> Inventor66 what was the question?
[20:19] <genewitch> Drk_Guy: i needed to kill gnome so i could install nvidia drivers
[20:19] <Drk_Guy> !ask | Inventor66
[20:19] <crimsun> mrtin: you pinged earlier?
[20:19] <mrtin> kenkku, 20, i dont know why
[20:20] <arrrghhh> genewitch, yes but the way he suggested is preferred.
[20:20] <Drk_Guy> genewitch, you can kill it that way, it's safer
[20:20] <kenkku> mrtin: did you use ndiswrapper before?
[20:20] <w00LiPoP> Hi! When I tried to change the standard terminal icon to a icon I've downloaded on gnomelook.org, but when I go in to that thingy where u change the icon, and press browse, it does'nt show the icon I've downloaded. What do I have to do to make the shit work?
[20:20] <genewitch> Oh i see.
[20:20] <Inventor66> randorfer, thanks in advance.  ubuntu loads on blair's notebook, but it does not have any sound
[20:20] <mrtin> crimsun, yes i did was goin to ask u something about playin sounds from terminal, but i did it hehe thanks
[20:20] <Sydero> ForsakenSoul: add deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main to your repositories list
[20:20] <Sydero> then download ffmpeg
[20:20] <Sydero> install*
[20:20] <Inventor66> sorry, it's not a notebook
[20:20] <Inventor66> it's a desktop
[20:20] <cbesco82> can someone help me???
[20:21] <mrtin> kenkku, nope never had to....... i have an hp pavilion and with all kernels before -20 wifi worked out perfect
[20:21] <borutj007> sam zdaj kateri server
[20:21] <ForsakenSoul> Sydero: ok I got it just want to try something before that
[20:21] <Drk_Guy> Sydero, That's for debian, chances are that it can break ubuntu, and besides, ffmpeg is in ubuntu's repos
[20:21] <randorfer> Inventor66 what is his sound card -- paste bin the result of $ lspci -tv
[20:21] <Drk_Guy> !ask | cbesco82
[20:21] <Sydero> :(
[20:21] <arrrghhh> cbesco82, compiz.  that's how.
[20:21] <Sydero> fine
[20:21] <kenkku> mrtin: I have a pavilion too. do you use the restricted driver (wl)?
[20:21] <arrrghhh> !compiz | cbesco82
[20:21] <cbesco82> i got that installed
[20:21] <cbesco82> do i have to download something else?
[20:21] <arrrghhh> cbesco82, well if you read up on that, it will tell you how to do it.
[20:21] <cbesco82> or hit a special button?
[20:21] <Sydero> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491885
[20:21] <Inventor66> will tell him, thanks randorfer.
[20:22] <Inventor66> we will get that information for you randorfer, bbl
[20:22] <mrtin> kenkku, yes i did i mean the card worked perfect, but the light of wifi was red... not blue like connected as ussualy, and i notice it was a litle bit slower, so i went back to -19
[20:22] <cbesco82> well thanks...
[20:22] <cbesco82> i guess...
[20:22] <arrrghhh> cbesco82, that is a very popular and easily found subject if you search...
[20:23] <kenkku> mrtin: I believe the red light means wifi is completely off
[20:23] <troythetechguy> I created an image of my Ubuntu install, and then resized the partition sizes.  Can I use the image to re-install ubuntu, or do I have to do a fresh install because the partition sizes changed>
[20:23] <Sydero> http://devpinoy.org/blogs/garri/archive/2007/12/28/backup-enable-mp3-and-amr-support-in-ffmpeg-ubuntu-edgy-eft.aspx
[20:23] <trigpin> ok crism : try again http://paste.ubuntu.com/31005/
[20:23] <kenkku> mrtin: I have a similar problem, although it has more to do with my chipset not being supported by wl, I think
[20:23] <IndyGunFreak> ForsakenSoul: are you trying to make videos for your ipod?
[20:23] <arrrghhh> troythetechguy, so long as it fits, shouldn't matter.
[20:23] <mrtin> kenkku, it worked but the light was enoyin hehe
[20:23] <ForsakenSoul> IndyGunFreak: no I'm trying to play videos from my telephone
[20:24] <crimsun> trigpin: please preface w/ my full nick, else I'm likely to miss it
[20:24] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok,.
[20:24] <webbyhelp> is there a way from the webserver install cd to install gnome from F6 (boot with other options)?
[20:24] <troythetechguy> arrrghhh: Thanks.  I'll give it a shot.
[20:24] <elexodus> Anybody wanna betatest my FTP server?
[20:24] <mrtin> kenkku, it can be... but the big question is why it works perfect with -19 and not -20
[20:24] <arrrghhh> webbyhelp, just apt-get ubuntu-desktop.
[20:24] <trigpin> crimsun : ok
[20:25] <ForsakenSoul> btw Sydero I'm doing exactly what you pointed out with the second forum post
[20:25] <crimsun> trigpin: dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii
[20:25] <IndyGunFreak> ForsakenSoul: what video format do those videos need tob e in?
[20:25] <Sydero> Does anyone run tiger?
[20:26] <ForsakenSoul> hmm well it would be good if I knew how to make it avi
[20:26] <tomasko> i had kubuntu installed and then i installed ubuntu-desktop. now i want to get rid of ubuntu-desktop and all that it installed. what's the way to do that? apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop just removes ~50 kB
[20:26] <Sydero> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[20:26] <Flannel> !purekde | tomasko
[20:26] <Sydero> then sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:26] <tomasko> ok
[20:27] <Sydero> autoremove should kill the rest
[20:27] <mrtin> what can i use to make videos out of my own videos like pasting lots of videos ive recorded into one so i can burn it into a dvd?
[20:27] <arrrghhh> aptitude would've done it for you.  but you would've had to also install w/aptitude
[20:27] <obidiah> mrtin: DeVeDe
[20:27] <Flannel> mrtin: Check out kino and/or cinelerra
[20:28] <blair> how do I open a console window in ubuntu?
[20:28] <Sydero> it should be in accessories
[20:28] <Flannel> blair: programs > accessories > terminal, or if you just need to run a command, alt-f2 is a run dialog
[20:28] <trigpin> crimsun : No packages found matching linux-restricted-modules-2.6.25-2-686.
[20:28] <trigpin> No packages found matching linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.25-2-686.
[20:28] <IndyGunFreak> blair: /app./accessories/
[20:28] <Sydero> sudo apt-get remove gnome
[20:28] <mrtin> ok obidiah Flannel thanks
[20:28] <blair> thank you
[20:29] <MyName_> Hi
[20:29] <ForsakenSoul> IndyGunFreak:  do you know how I could convert from 3gp to avi ?
[20:29] <MyName_> is Ubuntu a superior OS to windows XP ?
[20:29] <Sydero> depends on what you want
[20:29] <IndyGunFreak> ForsakenSoul: sorry, i don't.... i don't mess w/ video much.
[20:29] <arrrghhh> MyName_, that's a big can of worms
[20:29] <Sydero> Most of what makes an OS is the apps that are available
[20:29] <MyName_> Sydero, from a purely comptuer science point of view.
[20:29] <MyName_> like which has better code
[20:29] <MyName_> better structure
[20:29] <webbyhelp> i'm seeing I should just install gnome core, any idears on how to do that?
[20:29] <MyName_> better safety
[20:29] <MyName_> better stabilit
[20:29] <ForsakenSoul> MyName_:  it certainly catches less viruses :D
[20:29] <FloodBot3> MyName_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <Sydero> there are many ways things are better
[20:29] <MyName_> better efficiency
[20:29] <arrrghhh> MyName_, well ubuntu cuz we can see the code
[20:30] <Sydero> first off
[20:30] <trigpin> crimsum : im not running in the kernel with the problem im running the one under it
[20:30] <Sydero> the windows desktop environment is not the same as the kernel
[20:30] <MyName_> ok
[20:30] <arrrghhh> we have no idea what apple's or m$'s code looks like
[20:30] <MyName_> but what abotu the windows kernel
[20:30] <Flannel> webbyhelp: What are you looking to do?
[20:30] <Sydero> and most of the problems stem from the desktop environment
[20:30] <arrrghhh> well we have an idea on what apple bases their code on lol
[20:30] <Sydero> the windows kernel is awesome
[20:30] <MyName_> is the windows kernel written by the same group of people who wrote the ubuntu kernel ?
[20:30] <Flannel> !offtopic
[20:30] <ForsakenSoul> MyName_: definitely not
[20:30] <arrrghhh> MyName_, most definitely not
[20:30] <MyName_> ForsakenSoul, who wrote the windows kernel ?
[20:30] <Flannel> MyName_: That'd be a lovely discussion to have in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:30] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[20:30] <trigpin> crimsum : shall i run that code in the broken kernel ?
[20:31] <arrrghhh> MyName_, microsoft whoelse
[20:31] <ForsakenSoul> MyName_: Microsoft
[20:31] <MyName_> i nkow, but who]
[20:31] <Sydero> the windows kernel is not broken and is awesome
[20:31] <MyName_> which programmer
[20:31] <Flannel> MyName_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:31] <ForsakenSoul> the linux kernel is written by people all over the world
[20:31] <arrrghhh> MyName_, hundreds
[20:31] <ForsakenSoul> but a selected few look after the code
[20:31] <arrrghhh> MyName_, over many years
[20:31] <Inventor66> OK, folks, you were very helpful, thanks.  We will be back with more questions later.
[20:31] <MyName_> ic
[20:31] <MyName_> are they talented and smart programmers?
[20:31] <fouad> MyName_, John Do
[20:31] <nagyv> hello! could someone recommend me a bandwidth meter tool for gnome? I would like to know the incoming+outgoing traffic over a given device (ppp-0)
[20:31] <Sydero> the windows kernel programmers are smarter
[20:31] <ForsakenSoul> wow they are one of the best hackers in the world
[20:31] <kenkku> MyName_: most of them are, most probably
[20:31] <arrrghhh> MyName_, you really are in the wrong place.
[20:31] <Sydero> and because it's a team and not all over the world
[20:31] <Sydero> it's faster to release
[20:31] <Flannel> Sydero, ForsakenSoul, arrrghhh, MyName_, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:31] <MyName_> kenkku, smarter than the ubuntu kernel authors ?
[20:31] <Sydero> yes
[20:31] <nickrud> MyName_ this a help channel, not a general discussion channel. You should take this convo to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:31] <arrrghhh> Flannel, sorry...
[20:32] <MyName_> ok
[20:32] <lucazade> nagyv: try conky
[20:32] <ForsakenSoul> ops sorry
[20:32] <kenkku> MyName_: both people have smart developers. it's impossible to say who's the best :P
[20:32] <ForsakenSoul> got carried away
[20:32] <obidiah> I smell a troll
[20:32] <Kelvin_0> How can I limit outbond connections to one per port?
[20:32] <arrrghhh> i said he was opening a can of worms
[20:32] <fouad> I smell a ban
[20:32] <kenkku> Sydero: how do you know the windows kernel is better? you know, it might be a big pile of rubbish barely staying together, we don't know, it's closed
[20:32] <Flannel> Guys, if you want to continue discussing it, take it to -offtopic, he's there now and talking.
[20:33] <rconan> hey guys. I'm having some trouble with synergy. When I run synergys -f I get the following error: http://rafb.net/p/7oiEtQ29.html
[20:33] <Sydero> I do know
[20:33] <rconan> "conan-desktop" is my hostname
[20:33] <Sydero> not all of it is closed, and the developers are quite innovative
[20:33] <arrrghhh> does anyone know how to edit the settings for the gdm login screen?  like how long the monitor sits before it shuts off?
[20:33] <Sydero> it should be in the control panel
[20:33] <Sydero> system settings
[20:34] <Flannel> arrrghhh: login screen setup, but not sure if the shutoff time will be in there.
[20:34] <ManualOverDozer8> arrrrrg: do you mean the screensaver ?
[20:34] <kane77> does anyone use the simple backup for backup? I have a feeling the purging of old backups does not work..
[20:34] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, ok i run kde.  but use gdm (it works better...) and other users use gnome
[20:34] <IndyGunFreak> Flannel: for some reason, login screen setup has stopped working for me, do you knwo the terminal command to open it, so i can see if i'm getting errors?.. it opens for like 2sec, then closes w/o any noticeable errors.
[20:35] <Flannel> webbyhelp: The server CD doesn't contain packages for a GUI, no.  You'll need to install it afterwards.
[20:35] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, now kde, the monitor doesn't go black, it just turns off.  in gdm login screen, it goes black and then turns off after 30 mins or so
[20:35] <rconan> oh... i'm being silly
[20:35] <Charles> Hi, I have a quick question... something I just can't figure out
[20:35] <ManualOverDozer8> rrrrg: you can configure the screensaver from System/Preferences/ScreenSaver
[20:35] <Flannel> IndyGunFreak: I don't.  try "login" and tab, or take a look at the menu entry
[20:36] <arrrghhh> !question | Charles
[20:36] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, well i've tried loggin in (a
[20:36] <tomasko> oh also... is konqueror not compiled with hal?
[20:36] <IndyGunFreak> Flannel: yeah, the menu entry, for some reason, has just been shutting down as soon as it opens the last few days...
[20:36] <tomasko> btw, the purekde thing worked wonderfully
[20:36] <arrrghhh> under gnome and doing that, i'm the only admin...
[20:37] <Charles> I have a broadcom wireless driver, and when I install ubuntu under wubi, i am unable to connect, and I can't install ndiswrapper either
[20:37] <ManualOverDozer8> arrrrg: can i say ? not sure what you are asking. please be more specific. the screensaver options are easy to find
[20:37] <Entropy51423> Does anyone know what all can be determined by Wireshark
[20:37] <tomasko> i dunno how this happens, but sometimes in gnome when i play urbanterror, the game windows and keeps control of my mouse and sorta my keyboard. that's why i wanted to get off it because it doesn't do that in kde
[20:37] <elexodus> Anybody wanna betatest my FTP server?
[20:37] <bunz> what's on it :P
[20:37] <Sydero> no :P
[20:37] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, but those don't effect gdm, the login.  before anyone logs in.  i want that screen to sit for 10 mins top, then turn off the monitor.
[20:37] <Gillpy> elexodus: how you mean ?
[20:37] <Sydero> yeah
[20:37] <Sydero> depends what's on it
[20:38] <hou5ton> anyone know how to get 8.10 to see usb mass storage?
[20:38] <Sydero> It should already recognize it
[20:38] <Entropy51423> tomasko: Change visual effects to none under System Preferences Appearance
[20:38] <elexodus> gillpy: I just set it up, want to make sure it works properly. I have a little bit of media on there right now.
[20:38] <ManualOverDozer8> arrrrrg: oh yes, i see now, the main login. yes there is an option to change it, but as for knowing it offhand, i forget
[20:38] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, and i'm the only acct that's allowed to "administer the machine" and my kde screen settings behave differently than the gdm login screen.
[20:38] <Gillpy> so where is it ?
i believe wireshark is for packet anyalizing
[20:38] <elexodus> Bunz, a little bit of media.
[20:38] <kane77> hou5ton, 8.10? thats only alpha now.. you should be running something more stable..
[20:38] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, yea.. i've been searchin for it.  i can't find it.
[20:38] <elexodus> hold on
[20:39] <Entropy51423> I know that, but what can be determined from its output?
[20:39] <ManualOverDozer8> Entropy: wireshark abilities are somewhat dependent on your hardware
[20:39] <hou5ton> kane77:  needed a later kernel
[20:39] <hou5ton> kane77:  checking it out
[20:39] <Sydero> elexodus,  I'll test :P
[20:39] <kane77> hou5ton, and things concerning intrepid should be discussed in #ubuntu+1
[20:39] <badfood> Hi everyone, does anyone have difficulties capturing the window border with "gnome-screenshot --window --include-border" when Compiz is running? No matter what I do, if I have "Visual Effects" set to anything but "None", it won't capture the window border
[20:39] <ManualOverDozer8> arrrrg: i will do quick search as i do know of what you mean now. give me a few mins please
[20:39] <ryan_> um well if ur connected to a network you can see most aim messages
[20:39] <Entropy51423> Okay, I have a wireless router in my room but the actual tower is in the office
[20:40] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, not a problem!  thanks.
[20:40] <hvgotcodes> if i have a ttf how do i install it?
[20:40] <thomas__> I need help with fan controlling on my HP laptopn, I would really appreciate some help. Please msg me ------
[20:40] <ryan_> with other programs you can get email passwords too
[20:40] <Blaqlight> arrrghhh: I feel your pain.
[20:40] <IndyGunFreak> Entropy51423: so what is the problem?... you can't get on the router w/ your laptop?
[20:40] <crimsun> trigpin: err...why are you running that kernel?
[20:40] <Gigs> I have a quad core Intel CPU... Since upgrading to Hardy, simply moving my mouse in circles on my desktop causes 1 core to sustain about 30% usage.  If the mouse is still, all cores hover around 10% or less.  Why does Hardy need 20% of a CPU just to move the mouse?
[20:41] <Entropy51423> No, I was trying to decide between Wireshark and Kismet
[20:41] <crimsun> trigpin: because 2.6.25 is most definitely not supported for hardy (or any other Ubuntu release for that matter)
[20:41] <kane77> ryan_, that really depends.. ssl should keep you safe
[20:41] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[20:41] <Entropy51423> I know a little more about Kismets ability than Wiresharks
[20:42] <ryan_> o yes srry but if u use a email client which doesnt have that, which is uncommon i use gmail
[20:42] <hvgotcodes> noone can tell me how to install a ttf font?
[20:42] <badfood> So, no one else is having problems capturing the window border with "Visual Effects" set to anything but "None"?
[20:42] <IndyGunFreak> !fonts | hvgotcodes
[20:42] <ManualOverDozer8> arrrrrg: System/Administration/Login Window    maybe that will help, these is a tabs you can adjust how the main login works
[20:42] <kane77> ryan_, yes.. I use gmail too..
[20:42] <thomas__> I need help with fan controlling on my HP laptopn, I would really appreciate some help. Please msg me ------
[20:43] <hvgotcodes> IndyGunFreak: thanx
[20:43] <IndyGunFreak> msg ubottu private
[20:43] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, yea i've logged into gnome and looked at those...
[20:43] <IndyGunFreak> hvgotcodes: np..
[20:43] <arrrghhh> i'll try it again.
[20:43] <kenkku> !patience | thomas__
[20:43] <randorfer> Entropy wireshark is a gui on top of tcpdump (basically)
[20:43] <kane77> ryan_, and now they even made everything use ssl, not only login
[20:43] <Entropy51423> So kind of like Synaptic is to apt
[20:43] <thomas__> Sorry..
[20:43] <ryan_> o rlly
[20:43] <ManualOverDozer8> arrrrg: ok, there is another way in the main scripts running at boot, but then, i dont even mess witht hem at all
[20:43] <ere4si> thomas__: you need the right h/ware to do that
[20:44] <ryan_> well im sure in the future someone will get past that
[20:44] <wally34> looking for Andrew H are you here?
[20:44] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, yea i was thinkin it was in gconf files but i couldn't find it...
[20:44] <hou5ton> crimsun:  ya ... but anything less that 2.6.25 won't work wireless on some laptops
[20:44] <trigpin> crimsum: i don't understand how i suddenly got a different kernel i just used update manger :p
[20:44] <snarkste1> i have this video card, which driver should i install? 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[20:44] <ManualOverDozer8> arrrrgg: exactly what i was speaking of, not my territorty to suggest options there
[20:45] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, that's cool
[20:45] <trigpin> crimsum: is it safe to remove unwanted kernel from synaptic and will boot menue be updated ?
[20:45] <badfood> Hi everyone, does anyone have difficulties capturing the window border with "gnome-screenshot --window --include-border" with visual effects? No matter what I do, if I have "Visual Effects" set to anything but "None", it won't capture the window's border.
[20:45] <ManualOverDozer8> arrrrg: ask every now and, then (just dont flood same question) and i am sure someone can help you
[20:46] <wally34> can anyone here help a complete newbi?
[20:46] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, oh i won't flood with questions... i know irc ediquette :P
[20:46] <rw> wally34: yes
[20:46] <ManualOverDozer8> wally: what seems to be the issue? state your question.
[20:46] <kane77> wally34, not unless you ask a question.. we are not telepathic..
[20:47] <arrrghhh> trigpin, i don't know if removing the the kernel will update the menu.lst, but there's gui interfaces for editing that if you don't want to manually edit it.
[20:47] <elexodus_> gillpy, sydero, any luck?
[20:47] <Entropy51423> So Wireshark is to tcpdump as Synaptic Package Manager is to apt
[20:47] <wally34> just burned first disk 64 bit on quad core pc ... trying to boot from cd and only get a prompt initramfs.
[20:47] <trigpin> arrrghhh: ok thanxs , whats the gui called ?
[20:47] <randorfer> ryan_ I highly doubt that someone will 'get past' ssl in the near future.  SSL is just a framework that uses different encryption algorithms in order to securly transmit messages over the internet.  Ie as people develop attacks against an encryption algorithm (ie DES) it can be swapped out for something more secure (tripple des) -- read up on it a bit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Sockets_Layer
[20:48] <drugo> hello
[20:48] <amenado> wally34-> try the alternatecd
[20:48] <ManualOverDozer8> WireShark is a nice proggy, yet, i believe tcpdump works with more hardware
[20:48] <wally34> what is that?\
[20:48] <crimsun> hou5ton: that's why there's linux-backports-modules-2.6.24-20-generic in hardy-proposed
[20:48] <badfood> useless
[20:48] <akaaka_> hello can someone help me, i need to check what level number its my vm.swappiness
[20:48] <akaaka_> what command do i need to type
[20:48] <akaaka_> to check this
[20:48] <dogfacehat> how do I use gnome core?
[20:48] <randorfer> ManualOverDozer8 I am pretty sure wireshark works with the same libs as tcpdump
[20:48] <drugo> do you know how to compile and install the latest version of gnome (2.23.5) on ubuntu 8.04?)
[20:48] <hou5ton> crimsun:  that's still not 2.6.25+
[20:49] <drugo> is there any package ready for installation?
[20:49] <wally34> amenado what is the alternate cd
[20:49] <ryan_> o very cool well that is good to know
[20:49] <genewitch> is there software that supports VSTi on ubuntu?
[20:49] <Entropy51423> Another question is that I have heard Nvidia works better than Radeon
[20:49] <xiantia_> yes wareshark and tcpdum use pcap lib
[20:49] <akaaka_>  hello can someone help me, i need to check what level number its my vm.swappiness
[20:49] <akaaka_>  what command do i need to type
[20:49] <arrrghhh> trigpin, the package is called qgrubeditor
[20:49] <drugo> do you know how to compile and install the latest version of gnome (2.23.5) on ubuntu 8.04?)
[20:49] <amenado> wally34-> as opposed to the liveCd...look around where you downloaded your iso from
[20:50] <akaaka_>  hello can someone help me, i need to check what level number its my vm.swappiness what command do i need to type
[20:50] <ManualOverDozer8> randorfer: unfortunate, but WireShark doesnt work on this card, whereas is did with 7.x , just havent got to removing/reinstalling it, as i dont use it much
[20:50] <arrrghhh> Entropy51423, generally yes.  since they're now owned by amd that might change...
[20:50] <wally34> ok will do ....thanks
[20:51] <ManualOverDozer8> arrrrg: thanks, i will take a look at that> qgrubeditor
[20:51] <Entropy51423> Darn, I will only have enough for the Radeon 4850 any time soon, not the competing Nvidia
[20:51] <crimsun> hou5ton: why does that matter?  we're speaking of wireless-testing.git, snapshots of which are merged into that package.
[20:51] <akaaka_>  hello can someone help me, i need to check what level number its my vm.swappiness what command do i need to type
[20:51] <TiredWolf> akaaka_: cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[20:51] <TiredWolf> !repeat | akaaka_
[20:51] <trigpin> arrrghhh: does it also remove the kernel ? or i neeed to do that via terminal
[20:51] <dodexx> hey habe mir ubuntu neu installiert kann mir jemnad mal erklärenwie ich hier was installiert bekomme??
[20:51] <drugo> do you know how to compile and install the latest version of gnome (2.23.5) on ubuntu 8.04?)
[20:51] <TiredWolf> !de | dodexx
[20:52] <arrrghhh> trigpin, all that grubeditor does is just that - edit's the menu.lst you see on grub.
[20:52] <hou5ton> crimsun:  I'm not sure ... all I know is that I was told that the wireless card on this laptop ... RTL 8185 or something like that, is supported with the 2.6.25 and later
[20:52] <arrrghhh> akaaka_, sysctl vm.swappiness i believe.  google is your friend tho
[20:53] <Entropy51423> So do some actual volunteer to be on from a certain time to another certain time on this IRC?
[20:53] <hou5ton> crimsun:  we have been over it a zillion times in Hardy, and it won't work at all ...ever
[20:53] <dodexx> hey kann mir jemand helfen mit installationen über ubuntu?
[20:53] <arrrghhh> Entropy51423, we're all here whenever we want to be.
[20:53] <denverRay> Hello...does anyone know of a Linux application that can be used in place of Adobe Flash?
[20:53] <dodexx> hey
[20:53] <crimsun> hou5ton: the only reason it's supported in that kernel version is because it has a newer wireless-testing.git snapshot.
[20:53] <TiredWolf> dodexx, /join #ubuntu-de um deutsch zu sprechen
[20:53] <kenkku> !de > dodexx
[20:53] <trigpin> arrrrghhh: ok using it now just what i needed nice and simple =)
[20:53] <arrrghhh> denverRay, there's gnash, but it's not very good.
[20:53] <crimsun> denverRay: swfdec
[20:53] <arrrghhh> trigpin, yep.  very simple
[20:53] <randorfer> denverRay, you can use flash player on linux
[20:53] <denverRay> thanks arrrghhh
[20:54] <Entropy51423> Okay, because Obottu(spelling?) keeps talking about being volunteers
[20:54] <hou5ton> crimsun:  so ... that's what I need.
[20:54] <Entropy51423> I think he is a bot, no?
[20:54] <denverRay> randorfer: i'm actually looking to dreate animations
[20:54] <Starnestommy> Entropy51423: ubottu is a bot
[20:54] <crimsun> hou5ton: I wouldn't have suggested it otherwise.
[20:54] <arrrghhh> Entropy51423, well people that are helping here are volunteers.  no one is paid here to help people.
[20:54] <ManualOverDozer8> Information Bot !ubuntu
[20:55] <Entropy51423> I got to go
[20:55] <kenkku> !ubottu
[20:55] <Entropy51423> Thanks for the help
[20:56] <randorfer> denverRay some versions of flash work rather well on wine (flash 8 that I know of, possible flash cs2 -- google did a summer of code on cs2 running on wine)
[20:56] <jdbart> can someone help me make multimedia buttons on my laptop not turn on the monitor
[20:56] <ManualOverDozer8> can Ubottu be used outside of #ubuntu ?
[20:57] <arrrghhh> ManualOverDozer8, bots can be used in any irc channel you want them to be in.
[20:57] <TiredWolf> !msgthebot | ManualOverDozer8, yes
[20:57] <arrrghhh> azureus even has a plugin that'll create an irc bot
[20:57] <Flannel> ManualOverDozer8: yeah, send him a query
[20:57] <randorfer> denverRay there used to be a project called f4l (flash 4 linux) but I think adobe killed it, if you are going for hard core animation though there is always blender
[20:57] <denverRay> randorfer: thanks, i'll give wine a try
[20:57] <denverRay> blender?
[20:57] <arrrghhh> dennda, there's always virtualbox if your hardware is up to it
[20:57] <arrrghhh> dennda, sorry
[20:57] <linch7> Q: does someone know what to do with a somename.py file?
[20:58] <arrrghhh> denverRay, there's always virtualbox if your hardware is up for it
[20:58] <kenkku> linch7: python somename.py
[20:58] <dennda> arrrghhh: no worries
[20:58] <randorfer> linch7 .py files are python files.  If you are ever wondering what to do with a file try running the command :  $ file somename.py
[20:58] <linch7> kenkku, how to I start it?
[20:58] <arrrghhh> autocomplete works so well in the shell, i know what it's going to complete lol
[20:58] <kenkku> !python
[20:58] <TiredWolf> oject?
[20:58] <kenkku> okay, that was hardly helpful
[20:59] <kenkku> and even contains a typo :P someone fix that?
[20:59] <denverRay> arrrghhh: thanks, i'll look into that as well
[20:59] <arrrghhh> denverRay, do you live in denver?
[20:59] <ManualOverDozer8> kenkku: Ubottu has typo error  > Oject
[20:59] <denverRay> north of denver
[20:59] <arrrghhh> cool i work in a computer shop downtown
[21:00] <denverRay> awesome
[21:00] <Reformer81> Does the Ubuntu 8.04 disc come with any virus scanners for Windows?  Or can I install one from the LiveCD?  My neighbor has a  nasty virus (I think),  but I can't use windows to scan for viruses or spyware because initiating a scan causes a reboot.
[21:00] <arrrghhh> actually had a guy bring a ubuntu laptop in and no one knew what to do with it lol
[21:00] <denverRay> lol
[21:00] <arrrghhh> Reformer81, there's a ton of livecds that are geared towards that
[21:00] <mrtin> how long does it take to devede to do a complete dvd from videos?
[21:00] <arrrghhh> Reformer81, 1 sec
[21:00] <Sydero> Reformer81: there are other live cds for that
[21:01] <ere4si> !virus
[21:01] <akaaka_> one question.. is true that with the new kernel.. swaping partitoin is not necessary? i mean that a swap file is as fast as a swap partition?
[21:01] <akaaka_> what should i do
[21:01] <denverRay> i had some old hardware that was aving a hard time with windows, so here i am...lol
[21:01] <TiredWolf> akaaka_: it should be pretty fast
[21:01] <akaaka_> cause im using 4gb of hd for swam
[21:01] <Reformer81> arrrghhh, Sydero: Any suggestions?
[21:01] <akaaka_> swap
[21:01] <akaaka_> and if i can save does 4gb that would be great
[21:01] <arrrghhh> Reformer81, http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page and hiren's boot cd (technically warez)
[21:01] <sander___> what is the version of glib in the ubuntu 8.04 LTS????
[21:02] <mrtin> k
[21:02] <TiredWolf> akaaka_: do you have 4gb of RAM?
[21:02] <alan_m> !warez
[21:02] <akaaka_> i have 4gb of ram.. thats why i select a swap partition of 4gb.. but seems there's no difference
[21:02] <akaaka_> yeah
[21:02] <akaaka_> i have
[21:02] <sander___> what is the version of glib in the ubuntu 8.04 LTS????
[21:02] <crdlb> !info libglib2.0-0 | sander___
[21:02] <crdlb> sander___: no need to repeat yourself
[21:02] <TiredWolf> akaaka_: a swap file that dynamically resize could become a problem when your hard drive is very fragmented, but hopefully that shouldn't happen
[21:02] <Reformer81> arrrghhh: Thank you.,
[21:03] <sander___> ubottu: thank you
[21:03] <denverRay> everyone: thanks for your suggestions...gotta run
[21:03] <Scunizi> Reformer81: you might be able to load and run an antivirus scanner from within the live cd environment.  To run it on the windows drive you'd have to mount the drive so the scanner would have access to it. Never done it myself but have thought about it.
[21:03] <Kucuk> Where can I download the unzip utility for linux, I can't find it via Google. Any good keywords?
[21:03] <rohan> hi this is rohan new user
[21:03] <akaaka_> yeah but i mean... cause i have enough ram maybe swapping to a partition or a file won't change anything.
[21:04] <Reformer81> Scunizi: But there are scanners for Linux that will find Windows viruses?
[21:04] <Scunizi> Kucuk: you should be able to right mouse click the file and "extract"
[21:04] <arrrghhh> Kucuk, it's builtinn...
[21:04] <TiredWolf> akaaka_: it most likely won't. go ahead.
[21:04] <Sydero> you can use a windows live cd
[21:04] <Kucuk> Scunizi: I have shell access only
[21:04] <arrrghhh> Reformer81, yea.  there's several.
[21:04] <arrrghhh> Reformer81, clamav, avast and avg i think both have linux clients.
[21:04] <Scunizi> Reformer81: signatures are signatures.. most are geared toward windows virus's..
[21:04] <rohan> hi if anyone can - which package shud i use to install a tv on ubuntu 8.04
[21:04] <arrrghhh> Reformer81, mcafee i think has one too
[21:05] <TiredWolf> !tv > rohan
[21:05] <Reformer81> Alrighty... thanks.
[21:05] <Scunizi> Reformer81: I think that avast on linux will run via terminal.
[21:05] <Reformer81> Hmm... I see a KDE frontend for clamav, but not a GTK one.
[21:06] <arrrghhh> Reformer81, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Live_Distros and look at rescue & repair
[21:06] <linxeh> Reformer81: try clamtk
[21:06] <mrtin> does ubuntu support fingerprint readers?
[21:06] <arrrghhh> hiren's is actually really good... but it definitely includes warez.
[21:06] <linxeh> mrtin: you think those things actually work ? :o
[21:07] <Chiarina> ciao
[21:07] <mrtin> linxeh, they do pretty well acctually
[21:07] <Chiarina> !list
[21:07] <cxo> What's chkconfig on ubuntu?
[21:07] <myubu> Hello, Im installing ubuntu, and I only have 640 MB of ram, what would be a good amount of swap for this, so i can gain performance?
[21:07] <cxo> 640mb of ram is plenty
[21:07] <Flannel> myubu: 2x or 1.5x
[21:08] <cxo> my machine has been up for 34 days, and i'm only using 10mb of swap
[21:08] <mrtin> myubu, 510 mb maybe
[21:08] <cxo> and i'm running 2 virtual machines
[21:08] <cxo> you wouldnt need more than 100mb
[21:08] <ManualOverDozer8> myubu: i have 512 of RAM and it seems to run fine, although more should be better
[21:09] <rohan> i have 1 gb ram and swap is 2 gb
[21:09] <rohan> ubuntu runs like a charm
[21:09] <ryan_> i have 2gb ram 2.3gb swap
[21:09] <ManualOverDozer8> i forget where to adjust the swaps, info please
[21:09] <Flannel> myubu: Either 960 (1.5xRAM) or 1280 (2xRAM) is standard
[21:09] <arrrghhh> !swap
[21:09] <linxeh> mrtin: no they dont, most can be fooled
[21:10] <ryan_> runs great but also running off portable hard drive
[21:10] <cxo> This is not windows people
[21:10] <arrrghhh> go there :P
[21:10] <arrrghhh> you don't need that much swap
[21:10] <arrrghhh> unless you have little ram
[21:10] <bunz> 2xram is for old days
[21:10] <cxo> linux will never ever use the swap unless it really has too
[21:10] <bunz> i got 4gb i use virtual no swap
[21:10] <linxeh> arrrghhh: how do you know? I've got 128GB swap on a box at work
[21:10] <rohan> thast what the ubuntu page mentions in idela scenario
[21:10] <bunz> would be stupid to make 8gb swap partition
[21:10] <mrtin> linxeh, i have one, it works ok
[21:10] <arrrghhh> linxeh, well you have to monitor your swap usage....
[21:10] <TiredWolf> mrtin, i suspect not out of the box. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/T4220 says "Fingerprint reader (supported by aes2501-wy and libfprint)" among "What does not work out-of-the-box and is solved"
[21:10] <joel__> HOW CAN I UNRAR WITH LINUX ?
[21:10] <alan_m> bunz, agreed..ubuntu generally makes the right choice for you so you dont have to tweak your swap later ;)
[21:10] <alan_m> !caps | joe_
[21:11] <TiredWolf> !rar > joel__
[21:11] <cxo> you dont need more than 100mb for a general purpose workstation
[21:11] <Sydero> I can't even find my swap partition :S
[21:11] <rohan> instal the package unrar
[21:11] <rohan> from synaptic
[21:11] <linxeh> arrrghhh: indeed, we have 128GB of ram on that box and often more than 100GB in a single process (with multiple processes up to that size around)
[21:11] <mrtin> TiredWolf, thanks man ill ckeck that out
[21:11] <cxo> How do you turn on/ off services at boot up with 8.04 ?
[21:11] <arrrghhh> linxeh, i don't think my swap was ever touched even on 1gb of ram
[21:11] <TiredWolf> cxo, Linux will use swap quite often even when it technically really doesn't have to, spare us the misconceptions, and #ubuntu-offtopic if it's not support
[21:11] <linxeh> arrrghhh: :-)
[21:11] <myubu> wow, thanks for the replies, everyone, well since this machine is ancient old, I'm running pc chips Amptron m810lmr and Duron 800 with pc 100 - 133 memory.
[21:11] <Sydero> well there's the /etc/rcx.d directories
[21:11] <rohan> go to system-services
[21:11] <Sydero> and /etc/init.d directories
[21:12] <cxo> TiredWolf, i beg to differ, that information is incorrect
[21:12] <Flannel> !bum | cxo
[21:12] <ryan_> same ive never seen my swap touched
[21:12] <arrrghhh> i've heard half your memory if you have 1gb_
[21:12] <arrrghhh> +
[21:12] <TiredWolf> cxo: then join #ubuntu-offtopic and we can discuss it
[21:12] <cxo> isnt that linux related?
[21:12] <TiredWolf> cxo: this is a SUPPORT channel, it's not an "anything linux related" channel
[21:13] <cxo> ok
[21:13] <rohan> please refer --- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq --- section -- How much swap do I need?
[21:13] <cxo> Nevertheless i'm not going to debate something I know for a fact is incorrect
[21:13] <myubu> will i have a performance issue with these specs?
[21:13] <arrrghhh> i still want to know how to change the monitor timeout settings for gdm login screen!
[21:13] <TiredWolf> rohan: as much as you have RAM. unless you have a tiny amount of RAM (for nowadays standards), i doubt you'd need more.
[21:13] <Flannel> myubu: No
[21:13] <bunz> myubu: it all depends on what you will be doing on it. for web browsing and lurking in irc probably not :P
[21:14] <rohan> hmm ok
[21:14] <rohan> i will try that next time with my installation :)
[21:14] <ManualOverDozer8> gpart used to make/enable swaps
[21:14] <ManualOverDozer8> ?
[21:14] <rohan> Triedwolf -- so ideally what do think if i allot nothing to swap?
[21:15] <TiredWolf> rohan: i think that is very bad.
[21:15] <myubu> and is it best to use the onboard graphics sis 630 graphics or the pci  agp 9600 ati 128mb card?
[21:15] <rohan> hmmm ubuntu deosn't allot anything by default as far as i know am i correct
[21:15] <bunz> as long as that card is supported the ati is your best shot
[21:15] <TiredWolf> rohan: Linux favors swapping out applications to allow for more filecaching space, and it does that for pretty sound reasons, and that's independent of how much RAM you have. also, you need at least as much swap as you have RAM if you want to use hibernation.
[21:16] <rohan> aha thats a valid point
[21:16] <Muntrue> Guys, i want to experiment with Python programming. So i snuffed out the following 2 apps Python-glade2 and Python-gtk2. They are both installed but i cant run them. Whats up ?
[21:16] <Sydero> how do I determine the size of swap?
[21:16] <TiredWolf> what's with swap today?
[21:16] <unop> Sydero, swapon -s
[21:16] <ere4si> arrrghhh: from here - http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/alt.os.linux.suse/2006-07/msg00138.html - turning off xgl will let the login screen blank
[21:16] <sabaoer> Hello.. I wonder what kind of /etc interface there are in Ubuntu for keeping track on whether there are an running internet connection
[21:16] <sabaoer> sorry for my broken english ;-)
[21:17] <unop> Sydero, or cat /proc/swaps
[21:17] <rohan> just a general discussion regarding swap - we can change the topic as well :)
[21:17] <soloturn> hi
[21:17] <sabaoer> the thing is that I use Firefox (3.0, some beta version) and an alternative connection app
[21:17] <obake-san> hey, i just updated my kernel in hardy, and the grub failed to load so i had to point out where to load ubuntu in the grub editor, and now my graphics card is suddenly not working. nvidia no longer shows up in the hardware drivers, and i have no idea how to set it up. any help would be appreciated
[21:17] <Sydero> hmmm my swap is 2000 MB :/
[21:17] <arrrghhh> ere4si, well the monitor turns off eventually.  it goes black and then turns off after 40 mins or so.
[21:17] <myubu> okay, so  640mb of ram i have, what should my swap be?
[21:18] <unop> sabaoer, what kind of information are you after?
[21:18] <Muntrue> Guys, i want to experiment with Python programming. So i snuffed out the following 2 apps Python-glade2 and Python-gtk2. They are both installed but i cant run them. Whats up ?
[21:18] <jester_> Muntrue:  probably a better question for the python channels, but i'll give a quick point in the direction.  The python-gtk2 (and i'd guess glade2) are just packages that let you import the functionality of GTK2 and glade (which are actually rather separate window environments i think) so there's really nothing to "run".  rather you import stuff, and use it appropriately
[21:18] <myubu> about 100mb
[21:18] <rohan> uninstall everything called nvidia and then there is something called envy use that it will auto detect the card
[21:18] <arrrghhh> ere4si, but kde it turns the monitor off right away, after 20 mins or whatever i have it set to.  i'd like gdm login screen to turn the monitor off after 5 mins or so.
[21:18] <rohan> and install the driver
[21:18] <unop> Muntrue, those are python libraries to be used in your python scripts
[21:18] <fen> Muntrue:purge them and then reinstall
[21:18] <unop> fen, err no
[21:19] <sabaoer> unop, the thing is that Firefox works in offline mode even if the connection is online
[21:19] <arrrghhh> myubu, i'd say 512-1024mb depending on your space constraints.
[21:19] <jester_> Muntrue:  Sorry for the very vague question, but my actual experience with that is about nilch, i just have a notion of what you need
[21:19] <ManualOverDozer8> my swapfile 643mb (via guided install, whole drive ubuntu)
[21:19] <jester_> vague answer, im an idiot :)
[21:19] <sabaoer> unop, so I wonder how Firefox determines that in ubuntu :-)
[21:19] <SubZeRo666[NL]> Hi Guys, i have a very strange problem. When i install ubuntu on HD, after reboot i get a complete system hang after POST screen. Complete black screen, no harddisk activity. It is also not possible to select to boot from CD-ROM. When i connect same harddisk via usb, zero the disk and put it back, than i can boot again from the cd. It seems that BIOS hangs on reading the MBR of the disk or something. How can i make grub as verbose as p
[21:19] <myubu> my space is 80gb and my ram is only 640mb
[21:19] <unop> sabaoer, yea, you'll either have to set network manager to use the other connection as the default - how that is done i do not know as i don't use gnome
[21:20] <ere4si> arrrghhh: I found little else about that with google - is it your setup perhaps?
[21:20] <Muntrue> unop, jester_ Makes sense, but i got this webpage im looking at and they run the app GLADE. Maybe i got it completely wrong (no idea whatsoever about python) take a look if you will and tell me im crazy :) http://www.learningpython.com/2006/05/07/creating-a-gui-using-pygtk-and-glade/
[21:20] <arrrghhh> myubu, i'd say make it 1gb swap then.
[21:20] <Flannel> myubu: Go ahead and double up your RAM then.  1280MB swap
[21:20] <fen> unop: sorry ge said he snuffed them
[21:20] <Sydero> Create a swap of 10x your ram ;)
[21:20] <arrrghhh> ere4si, i guess.  i use kde, but other users use gnome.  and gdm works better as a login manager!
[21:20] <Flannel> Sydero: That'll do absolutely no good
[21:20] <unop> Muntrue, you want the glade and glade-gnome packages for the actual glade gui
[21:20] <Sydero> it could be ;)
[21:21] <rohan> what is the best way of learnig the networkin stuff - i mean any manuals guides ?
[21:21] <unop> !info glade
[21:21] <Muntrue> unop, Ill check that out! thanks !
[21:21] <unafilliated> !info zimbra
[21:21] <FAJALOU1> hi my computer just froze up and i had to re boot,,, i am running 2 ndiswrapper drivers, nvidia gpu, and a 1 ghz mobo,  is there any way why i can check  it did this?
[21:21] <myubu> okay, thanks, Flannel,arrrghhh, and everyone else i forgot to mention!!
[21:21] <arrrghhh> rohan, howstuffworks is a great place to start
[21:21] <jester_> Muntrue:  Warned you I was an idiot :)  ok, have you run "glade-2" from the terminal.  I spaced that glade was the dev environment
[21:21] <fen> Question: how to I export a CUPS printer to another Ubunto box on the same subnet
[21:22] <Muntrue> jester_, I think i have to install the glade package for the actual program. Gonna check the python channel to see if i need 1 ,2 or 3 lol
[21:22] <rohan> ok thanks a lot
[21:22] <fen> It is a Canon Printer, to I only want the Canon drivers on the Server, not the client
[21:22] <jester_> Muntrue:  sounds like the right move.  I just pulled an "apt-get install glade" and it pulled 2 down and it runs like a charm, just did it to verify
[21:23] <fen> join #gentoo
[21:23] <Muntrue> jester_, I cant enter the python channel lol, thats stupid
[21:23] <obake-san> hey, i just updated my kernel in hardy, and the grub failed to load so i had to point out where to load ubuntu in the grub editor, and now my graphics card is suddenly not working. nvidia no longer shows up in the hardware drivers, and i have no idea how to set it up. any help would be appreciated
[21:23] <TiredWolf> Muntrue: you sure can enter, just register to freenode
[21:23] <Flannel> obake-san: Load an old kernel
[21:23] <Sydero> obake-san: are you sure you pointed to the correct kernel?
[21:24] <TiredWolf> !register > Muntrue
[21:24] <SubZeRo666[NL]> Hi Guys, i have a very strange problem. When i install ubuntu on HD, after reboot i get a complete system hang after POST screen. Complete black screen, no harddisk activity. It is also not possible to select to boot from CD-ROM. When i connect same harddisk via usb, zero the disk and put it back, than i can boot again from the cd. It seems that BIOS hangs on reading the MBR of the disk or something. How can i make grub as verbose as p
[21:24] <natalisushka> Hello guys, I am having a strange error message whenever I try to go sudo : sudo: unable to resolve host natalisushka-laptop  .. This doesn't prevent me from using root however! What does this mean? What can I do to solve it?
[21:24] <Muntrue> TiredWolf, Gotcha
[21:24] <Flannel> !hostname | natalisushka
[21:24] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: have you checked System/Administration/Hardware ?
[21:24] <Flannel> natalisushka: Also, you shouldn't be using the root account.
[21:24] <obake-san> yes, no restricted drivers show up, despite having nvidia-glx-new installed
[21:25] <natalisushka> Flannel, Why not?
[21:25] <ere4si> I set up one dapper box and used dd to set up 2 others - I've now upgraded one box to hardy and want to use its' /var/cache/apt/archives to upgrade the other two boxes - is this possible?
[21:25] <Flannel> natalisushka: Because sudo does everything you'd ever need to do, and disabling the root account is more secure.
[21:25] <Flannel> !sudo | natalisushka
[21:25] <Faust-C> what do youi guys use to burn movies ?
[21:25] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: how about looking in Synaptic Package Manager to see you have all the files required ?
[21:25] <Flannel> ere4si: Yes, although in the future you might want to look into apt-proxy
[21:26] <rohan> gnomebaker - nero
[21:26] <Gillpy> Faust-C: cdrecord
[21:26] <Flannel> ere4si: Either do it manually, or take the easy route, and use AptOnCD
[21:26] <jbroome> !clone > ere4si
[21:26] <obake-san> i have everything required
[21:26] <Faust-C> rohan, gnomebaker? i looked at it and all it had was audio, and data
[21:26] <natalisushka> Flannel, So you mean I must use sudo without su ?
[21:26] <rohan> data will work
[21:26] <obake-san> it worked just fine before i updated the kernel
[21:26] <ere4si> Flannel: thnx - is it a matter of copying the folder to the other boxes and sudo update & upgrade?
[21:26] <Faust-C> oic
[21:26] <Faust-C> rohan, ty
[21:27] <Flannel> natalisushka: That's the smart way, yeah.  You'll obviously want to fix sudo first (check out your hostnames)
[21:27] <rohan> its a problem only when u wanna watch it on dvd player not the PC
[21:27] <natalisushka> Flannel, Ok, in /etc/hostname I see only natalisushka-laptop
[21:27] <ere4si> jbroome: thnx :)
[21:27] <fen> Q How to I setup a CUPS printer on Ubuntu?
[21:27] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: have you typed lsmod   in terminal to see that is shows up there ?
[21:27] <jisatsu> why does ubuntu sort hangul/hiragana/katakana before roman text?
[21:27] <natalisushka> Flannel, isn't that what it's supposed to display? What does it mean "unable to resolve host" anyway?
[21:28] <Flannel> natalisushka: You need to make sure the two match.
[21:28] <PEPE___> jisatsu: maybe ur asian
[21:28] <obake-san> what am i looking for there?
[21:28] <jisatsu> PEPE___: it doesn't follow unicode sorting rules
[21:28] <obake-san> i dont see anything that mentions nvidia
[21:28] <PEPE___> yeah i got it
[21:29] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: mine using lsmod in terminal > i2c_core               24832  2 nvidia,i2c_sis96x
[21:29] <natalisushka> Flannel, what two? I can see in the hostnames file natalisushka-laptop and it's the same as root@natalisushka-laptop that I get with sudo su
[21:29] <Flannel> !hostname | natalisushka
[21:29] <Flannel> natalisushka: /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts, like the factoid says
[21:30] <ManualOverDozer8> !nvidia | obake-san
[21:30] <natalisushka> Flannel, Oh! Sorry! I'll check that
[21:30] <obake-san> i2c_core does not have nvidia anywhere after it
[21:30] <SubZeRo666[NL]> Hi Guys, i have a very strange problem. When i install ubuntu on HD, after reboot i get a complete system hang after POST screen. Complete black screen, no harddisk activity. It is also not possible to select to boot from CD-ROM. When i connect same harddisk via usb, zero the disk and put it back, than i can boot again from the cd. It seems that BIOS hangs on reading the MBR of the disk or something. How can i make grub as verbose as p
[21:31] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: ubuntu cannot effect you bios
[21:31] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: does your video seem to be working good ?
[21:31] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: something else is wrong - if you can't select boot from cdrom, something else is wrong that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:31] <Flannel> !repeat | SubZeRo666[NL]
[21:31] <natalisushka> Flannel .. Ok, here in /etc/hosts I see 127.0.0.1 localhost .. second line: 127.0.1.1 natalisushka-laptop.193.201.216.10 ... I think this IP is the ISP network UP or something .. should it be here?
[21:31] <ikonia> natalisushka: dhcp is most probably adding that
[21:31] <SubZeRo666[NL]> @ikonia: i know, but bios is up to date. BIOS seems to hang on reading device when i install ubuntu on it, when i clear harddisk or put other os on it it works fine
[21:32] <obake-san> well, im stuck in 640x480, but it is working i guess, just no nvidia stuff like i had before the kernel update
[21:32] <Flannel> natalisushka: On your second line you should also see 'natalisushka-laptop' on its own, do you?
[21:32] <rohan> u might have to add the resolution manually
[21:32] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: it's most likley set to boot from the wrong default device so taking a while to walk through your disks and time out on each
[21:32] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: how many disks do you have in the system ?
[21:32] <ManualOverDozer8> SubZero: maybe you are looking for the boot menu options. a function key pressed during grub will allow you to see the options. cant tell you which key, but that may be what you are looking for
[21:32] <rohan> to the xorg.conf file -- display - subsection
[21:32] <natalisushka> I see on the second line what I posted. 127.0.1.1 natalisushka-laptop.193.201.216.10
[21:32] <SubZeRo666[NL]> 1, it's laptop
[21:32] <natalisushka> Flannel, 127.0.1.1 natalisushka-laptop.193.201.216.10
[21:32] <Flannel> natalisushka: After that, add a space, and then natalisushka-laptop
[21:33] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: if you put a cdrom in, and attempt to boot from it, what happens
[21:33] <natalisushka> Flannel, Aha
[21:33] <SubZeRo666[NL]> ok, but i don't see any text at all, also not the "grub loading..." or whatever
[21:33] <natalisushka> OK one moment
[21:33] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when POST screen disappears it hangs
[21:33] <Flannel> natalisushka: then you should be able to sudo properly.  In the future, just use the GUI tool, it'll make sure everything stays coherent
[21:33] <obake-san> well there should be restricted drivers for nvidia
[21:33] <rohan> there
[21:33] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: what happens if you put a cdrom in, and tell the bios that the default boot device is the cdrom
[21:33] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when i disconnect harddisk from sata and connect it to usb i can see boot menu
[21:33] <obake-san> but they just arent available for some reason
[21:33] <natalisushka> Flannel, Thanks dude! it works like a charm :)
[21:33] <ManualOverDozer8> obakeL i found something wierd before i changed to the nvidia-restricted. i changed refresh rate to 56hz, then changed deskspace to 800X600, and all the other monitor refresh rates appeared
[21:33] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: so this is an external disk
[21:33] <rohan> is -- ok how are you installing it
[21:33] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: this is not an internal disk
[21:33] <eth01> if your POST is hanging consider clearing CMOS
[21:34] <eth01> the *
[21:34] <obake-san> i tried all 3 versions of it in synaptic too
[21:34] <Flannel> natalisushka: When you want to lock your root account, "sudo passwd -l root"
[21:34] <SubZeRo666[NL]> no, it is an internal disk
[21:34] <rohan> which card do u have?
[21:34] <eth01> so wheres the bios held?
[21:34] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: so your physically taking the disk out of your laptop and connecting it via usb ?
[21:34] <ManualOverDozer8> obake so now i run at 85hz 800x600 and all the refresh rates and screen resolutions are there now
[21:34] <eth01> i.e. the flash chip
[21:34] <SubZeRo666[NL]> but because my system became unusable, i bought a external usb casing
[21:34] <obake-san> nope, wont let me change the refresh rate
[21:34] <SubZeRo666[NL]> so i could clear disk on other machine
[21:34] <Flannel> eth01: in a chip on the mobo
[21:34] <SubZeRo666[NL]> so i can boot from cd again
[21:35] <SubZeRo666[NL]> @ikonia, correct
[21:35] <arrrghhh> ere4si, does gdm login screen take on the same screen settings as a particular user?  i'm the only one that's allowed to "administer the system" which i assume means i belong to sudoers.  i logged in with gnome and set my screen settings accordingly, and the login screen still seemed to have its own set of settings... so to speak.
[21:35] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: so if you set the cdrom to be the default boot device, and attempt to boot from cdrom - what happens ?
[21:35] <rohan> is it 8.04 ubuntu?
[21:35] <ManualOverDozer8> obakeL ok, then that may be out of my league on assisting you. someone else can help you, i am sure of it
[21:35] <SubZeRo666[NL]> same problem
[21:35] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: it would appear to have some sort of hardware issue with your bios then, as ubuntu does not touch the bios
[21:35] <rohan> if yes do this uninstall nvidia package from synaptic
[21:36] <SubZeRo666[NL]> correct, but bios checks devices to detect which are bootable
[21:36] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when it reads hd it crashes
[21:36] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], have you tried a different hdd?
[21:36] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: but if it can't read them, then the bios is having an issue
[21:36] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when i clear harddisk it doesn't crash
[21:36] <rohan> and then reboot - install ddriver thru restricted driver
[21:36] <ManualOverDozer8> SubZero: set your CMOS to detect the drives auto. if they cant be detected auto, then you may have jumpers set improperly
[21:36] <SubZeRo666[NL]> correct, bios does have an issue, but i would like to know a work around for it
[21:36] <rohan> if you still don't get the right resolution do this.
[21:36] <rohan> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:36] <sCOTTo> :)
[21:37] <sCOTTo> 1305 user :)
[21:37] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: well, you've confirmed grub is installed correctly but using it on a USB device - so the problem must be with your bios
[21:37] <jester_> jester
[21:37] <obake-san> it wont let me enable the restricted driver
[21:37] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], there might not be a workaround.... you might need to fix/replace the bios.
[21:37] <obake-san> its not listed
[21:37] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: the only think I can think of is that your device.map in /boot/grub is set to point to your cdrom
[21:37] <obake-san> no matter what i do, its just not there
[21:37] <rohan> search for the section "Screen"
[21:37] <SubZeRo666[NL]> correct. bios crashes on hd, so why can't i fix it? if it can boot windows, it should boot linux too right?
[21:37] <rohan> Add these line in the end (afer depth)
[21:37] <rohan> SubSection "Display"
[21:37] <SubZeRo666[NL]> maybe install lilo or other bootmanager on it?
[21:38] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: did you try to boot from the disk when you had it on usb
[21:38] <obake-san> hold on a second, im loading up an older kernel to see if its fucked there too
[21:38] <ikonia> obake-san: watch your language please.
[21:38] <rohan> Depth     24                Modes    "1280x1024" "1024x768"(add resolution u want)        EndSubSection
[21:38] <Guest87410> anyone know how to change the sound out of firefox/flash to go to a different output (usb sound card instead of internal audio), sound sources set in preferences and test ok, just seems to be flash/firefox I cant get through there
[21:38] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], i thought you said it crashed when it got to the hdd... so you loaded windows on it and windows booted?
[21:38] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: rohan on right path, as i do recognize it. on Ubuntu 7.x i had same problem
[21:38] <SubZeRo666[NL]> i had windows vista on machine
[21:38] <sCOTTo> yuk
[21:39] <TiredWolf> is there any ARM disassembler in the repositories? i guess not, but then i might have missed the less-than-obvious
[21:39] <rohan> yeah i had this issue -- the steps i tried and suggested fixed the issue -- i hope it helps people here too
[21:39] <SubZeRo666[NL]> wanted to install ubuntu, so i said in install "use full disk" after reboot, black screen after post
[21:39]  * sCOTTo divorced windows vista for Ubuntu Linux...
[21:39] <obake-san> yea, when i load .17 it lets me enable the nvidia driver
[21:39] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], have you always used the same cd?
[21:39] <ManualOverDozer8> rohan: well, it worked for me on 7.x, i cant say it will on 8.x now, as i dont even have an issue. finally a flawless install of Ubuntu :)
[21:39] <rohan> after logout - dun forget to do this -- at the login screen press - CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[21:39] <obake-san> lemme try .18
[21:39] <SubZeRo666[NL]> yeah, even verified it, tried 64 bit and 32 bit versions
[21:40] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: your bios does not appear to want to read the grub boot sector
[21:40] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], and the livecd boots alright?
[21:40] <SubZeRo666[NL]> correct
[21:40] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: did you boot it from usb when you have it on as an external USB
[21:40] <rohan> haha i got the issue with 8.x unlucky but luckily these steps fixed it (not to mention i was using a beta version :))
[21:40] <SubZeRo666[NL]> but windows is able to boot
[21:40] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: did you boot it from usb when you have it on as an external USB
[21:40] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], you can choose windows from grub and boot it?  i thought it froze before you made it anywhere near grub.
[21:41] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when windows was installed. so i want to know if i can install grub on /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda (install grub in partition instead of MBR?)
[21:41] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: you don't install grub on a partition
[21:41] <SubZeRo666[NL]> no, windows is completely from the disk
[21:41] <SubZeRo666[NL]> ok
[21:41] <FAJALOU1> hi my computer just froze up and i had to re boot,,, i am running 2 ndiswrapper drivers, nvidia gpu, and a 1 ghz mobo.  At the time i had one IRC open with pidgin, and Firefox with three tabs.  My system monitor showed evertything normal... is there any way why i can check  it did this?
[21:41] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: when you had it as an external disk on USB - did you attempt to boot on it
[21:41] <SubZeRo666[NL]> well, i'm now running live, with the disk mounted
[21:42] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: I really need you to answer my question
[21:42] <SubZeRo666[NL]> @ikonia: it doesn't show up in bootable devices
[21:42] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when using F11
[21:42] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: so how did you "see the grub" menu ?
[21:42] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: you said earlier when you took it out and tried it on another machine you saw the grub menu
[21:43] <SubZeRo666[NL]> i never saw grub menu
[21:43] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: then what where you talking about when you said you did
[21:43] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: it sounds to me like your installing grub to the partition instead of the mbr
[21:43] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: have you tried installing grub to the mbr rather than the partition
[21:44] <rohan> so nvidia driver friend is the issue fixed or we are still stuck with the same situation?
[21:44] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when i installed it, i kept it default, tried (hd0)
[21:44] <SubZeRo666[NL]> and /dev/sda
[21:44] <SubZeRo666[NL]> both didn't work
[21:44] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: so it looks like your bios has a bug in it then
[21:44] <obake-san> .18 i can enable the nvidia driver, but when i load up .19 there is nothing in the hardware drivers section
[21:45] <rohan> system - administration - hardware drivers
[21:45] <obake-san> theres nothing there
[21:45] <rohan> Obake-san --  what comes up whenu navigate like i mentioned above?
[21:45] <rohan> oops
[21:45] <SubZeRo666[NL]> correct. but when i clear disk, put in windows disk, install it, it works. So bios doesn't have a problem booting windows when i install it. so bios must be very bad, but i would like to know what i can change in the boot sector so it doesn't crash on it.
[21:45] <obake-san> all the previous versions of the kernel nvidia is there, just the newest one there is nothing listed in the window
[21:46] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: the bios does have a problem
[21:46] <ere4si> arrrghhh: sorry I was afk - I don't use a login manager so I couldn't say - sorry
[21:46] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: can you right click on deskspace/Background and choose to enable visual effects ?
[21:46] <obake-san> well, i assume .19 is the newest one
[21:46] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: if your bios is unable to read the grub boot sector - or pass beyond it to error to the screen, your bios is having an issue
[21:46] <SubZeRo666[NL]> ok, i think a different boot loader could fix it
[21:46] <rohan> yeah pls try the above suggestion and see where are we landing
[21:46] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: have you tried leaving it to time out for say 25 minutes
[21:47] <SubZeRo666[NL]> no, haven't tried that
[21:47] <gfather> hello guys
[21:47] <SubZeRo666[NL]> will try that now
[21:47] <obake-san> no, it said could not be enabled when i tried selecting normal visual effects
[21:47] <SubZeRo666[NL]> @ikonia, thanks for support
[21:47] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: if it times out you may get a more useful error message
[21:47] <SubZeRo666[NL]> btw, can i put an other boot loader on it?
[21:47] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: get a time out first
[21:47] <gfather> i installed the jdk , but netbeans cannot detect that
[21:47] <SubZeRo666[NL]> @ikonia, ok, thanx
[21:48] <rohan> by the way -- i guess this should work - for manual stuff ---
[21:48] <rohan> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  -- anyone here can verify it pls
[21:48] <gfather> i tried to remove it and install it again several times , but not working
[21:48] <ikonia> rohan: thats now not as verbose in 8.04
[21:48] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: if you cant choose anthing but no effects, then, i would assume you arent running the accelerated driver (resticted), but, if all works fine, then i wouldnt worry. i am currently ready to dump the driver as it bogs down every now and then
[21:48] <ikonia> rohan: due to xorg being more dynamic
[21:49] <rohan> ok nvidia site also has the drivers latest verison and as i know -- u dun need to install aal available verison of nvidia drivers from synaptic
[21:49] <Benitosimies> Is there a way to reset the /etc/network/interfaces file back to how it was when Ubuntu was first installed? I think I was dumb and broke it after the last kernel update.
[21:49] <rohan> if its a new card glx-new will work
[21:49] <obake-san> nothing works
[21:49] <ManualOverDozer8> rohan: this old series 4 chipset lol
[21:49] <obake-san> i tried glx, glxlegacy, and glx-new
[21:49] <chippy> hello
[21:49] <arrrghhh> Benitosimies, if you comment it all out, the network manager takes over
[21:49] <obake-san> glx-new works in every previous version of the kernel
[21:50] <chippy> on terminal, I'm using gnome-open to open files, but what's another command for me to use ?
[21:50] <ManualOverDozer8> rohan: i will check nvidia site now that you say it, eventhough the glx-new works, i dont like the occassional stutter
[21:50] <Benitosimies> haha Thanks arrrghhh, I'll try that.
[21:50] <tyrone> how can i tell what version of libgpod i have install
[21:50] <rohan> i know sorry was not able to get your work done
[21:51] <dotumaringka> libgpod --version maybe?
[21:51] <cypherdelic> Choppy Video Playback with VLC 0.8.6e playing X264 files on Ubuntu Hardy 64bit. Toten works great. Any suggestions?
[21:51] <rohan> is  youtube sound is working fine?
[21:52] <Benitosimies> Been getting a lot of grief from my Broadcom NIC.
[21:52] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, you can up the priority of vlc. or try 0.9.
[21:52] <rohan> i got to know thavideo is choppy sometime cos of flash too
[21:52] <ManualOverDozer8> cypherdelic: i ran into same issue installing mplayer-mozzila-plugin. it worked fine up until the point i installed the mplayer plugin, in which i will remove
[21:52] <tombar> anyone knows any eee channel i can ask for support?
[21:52] <tombar> !eee
[21:52] <dotumaringka> tyrone : try libgpod --version
[21:52] <FurryNemesis> !eeeubuntu
[21:52] <rohan> sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[21:52] <Flannel> tombar: #eeepc
[21:53] <tombar> thanks FurryNemesis and Flannel
[21:53] <Sydero> !eeep
[21:53] <chippy> would it be bad to alias "o" for "gnome-open" ?
[21:53] <Sydero> !eeepc
[21:53] <FurryNemesis> gah
[21:53] <cypherdelic> ManualOverDozer8: I dont understand what you've said
[21:54] <RxDx> was the problem that reduces the hd life-time fixed?
[21:54] <rohan> cypher - choppy video - did that work
[21:54] <ManualOverDozer8> cyperdelic: let me do something to be sure, i need to remove the nvidia resticted to see if the videos on youtube are choppy
[21:54] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, did you try changing the priority or a newer version?
[21:54] <ManualOverDozer8> brb
[21:54] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: hold on i will try that, i can i apply higher priority permanently?
[21:55] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, yes
[21:55] <arrrghhh> you might have to enable the "advanced options" tho
[21:56] <Flannel> RxDx: You can read all about it here: (and its linked pages): http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/laptop-hardrive-killer-bug/
[21:56] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: -15 didn't help. do you know about vlc 0.9 repo for hardy 64bit? compile?
[21:56] <RxDx> Flannel, thanks
[21:57] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, i don't think there's a repo for it... visit videolan.org.  they have compiled binaries for a shitton of oses
[21:57] <Flannel> RxDx: most notably (after you've read the text): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 that link, which then links here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement
[21:57] <Flannel> !language | arrrghhh
[21:58] <Rudy> I want download mkisofs
[21:58] <rohan> there are issue with vlc for 64 bit
[21:58] <RxDx> Flannel, just a thing... where can i see if laptop mode is enable or not?
[21:58] <Nixnoob> hello
[21:58] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: ok, i will first uninstall all vlc stuff and then install a binary or if it wont work then ill compile it. thanks for now.
[21:58] <Guest71851> who have some page web for download mkisofs
[21:59] <arrrghhh> np
[21:59] <Slacke1> uh...hello, first time using irc
[21:59] <Flannel> RxDx: I'm not sure.  I don't have a laptop
[21:59] <nickrud> !info mkisofs | Guest71851
[21:59] <rohan> same here Slackel
[21:59] <nickrud> hm,
[21:59] <RxDx> Flannel, thanks
[21:59] <linch7> Q: does someone know how to find out the *port* name for a bluetooth device?
[22:00] <Mr_Bad_News> is there a way to get buttons to show pictures if you set firefox to have a black background
[22:00] <Slacke1> cool, i have my screenname as slacker though, not sure y its seen as slackel?
[22:00] <rohan> hmm its ok
[22:00] <tritium> RxDx: /etc/default/acpi-support
[22:00] <Guest71851> I try install the burn comman, but I can't because I need install cdrecord and mkisofs
[22:00] <Slacke1> cool
[22:00] <ManualOverDozer8> yes youtube still choppy , it had to be an add-on to Firefox that did it, as it didnt do it before
[22:00] <rohan> so i am also as of now talking to random people some helping me , me trying to hellp other
[22:00] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: i cannot find 0.9
[22:01] <furseiseki> anyone run nicotine on ubuntu?
[22:01] <russ> Does anybody have an explanation for why gtkpod keeps setting my podcasts to the "not yet listened to" state?
[22:01] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, i think it's still in nightlies
[22:01] <Mr_Bad_News> does anyone know how to get awesome-3 working
[22:01] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: nightlies?
[22:01] <moreau> does anyone havethe linux drivers for an intel 945 express v-card?? the download page on the intel site doesnt have a download link
[22:02] <russ> rohan there's usually a few smart people though
[22:02] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, http://nightlies.videolan.org/
[22:02] <ryan_> has anyone worked or set up a ssh proxy tunnel before
[22:02] <fyrestrtr> russ: perhaps it thinks you haven't given them enough attention.
[22:02] <rohan> i can say - there are people with more knowledge than me and i am ready to learn from them and help others :)
[22:02] <ManualOverDozer8> russ: combined knowledge as a team, lots can be done
[22:02] <Nixnoob> ryan yes I have
[22:02] <InsomniaCity`> ryan_: its easy... take a look at ssh -L
[22:03] <Slacke1> wow, so many conversations at once. Its like being in a crowded room listening to everyone, rather fast-paced
[22:03] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, there is a repo there listed as well
[22:03] <jacob_linux> wheres a channel for the john application?
[22:03] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: cool thats it: deb http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/sid-amd64/arch ./
[22:03] <ikonia> jacob_linux: not here
[22:03] <russ> I agree, still haven't found anybody with a theory about my gtkpod problem yet though
[22:03] <ikonia> cypherdelic: thats not ubuntu based
[22:03] <jacob_linux> ikonia, do you have any idea where?
[22:03] <ikonia> jacob_linux: no here,
[22:03] <ikonia> not
[22:04] <Nixnoob> :)
[22:04] <rohan> its there
[22:04] <furseiseki> does anyone know how to block someone?
[22:04] <ikonia> furseiseki: in what respect ?
[22:04] <ryan_> ok well the thing is i beleive you need two pc so i was thinking of setting it up on my laptop at my house and then if im at a cafe i can run firefox of a usb
[22:04] <rolle> am i in the right channel?
[22:04] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, i don't see a 64-bit ubuntu repo
[22:04] <furseiseki> this guy ChanServ keeps trolling me
[22:04] <rolle> =)
[22:04] <Slacke1> right click and choose ignore
[22:04] <cypherdelic> ikonia: but ubuntu isnt available at 64bit
[22:04] <furseiseki> he follows me to every channel
[22:04] <ikonia> furseiseki: chanserv
[22:04] <mlLK> is there a common path for importing svns?
[22:04] <mlLK> /usr/src?
[22:04] <ikonia> cypherdelic: chanserv is a service, not a guy
[22:04] <rolle> wow, this place is hopping
[22:05] <rohan> so how to do you add a contact in IRC
[22:05] <furseiseki> oh
[22:05] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: right maybe sid will work
[22:05] <Flannel> mlLK: it'd be somewhere in your homedir
[22:05] <stmartin> can somebody please explain this text? I can' t understand it. http://pastebin.ca/1084583
[22:05] <rohan> is there an options ?
[22:05] <ryan_> im using ssh tunel manger
[22:05] <ManualOverDozer8> furs: that is normal, there is noone following you around the irc
[22:05] <ikonia> cypherdelic: sorry - ubuntu is available 64bit
[22:05] <arrrghhh> furseiseki, in irc, /ignore <user>
[22:05] <furseiseki> kewl
[22:05] <furseiseki> thanks
[22:05] <ikonia> furseiseki: chanserv is a service not a guy
[22:05] <moreau> 0/10
[22:05] <mlLK> Flannel, k
[22:05] <Slacke1> how do you get the person name to whom your responding to, to appear? or do u type it?
[22:05] <cypherdelic> ikonia: where, please?
[22:05] <ikonia> Slacke1: just type his name
[22:05] <Flannel> Slacke1: Type the first few letters, and hit tab
[22:05] <ikonia> cypherdelic: http://www.ubuntu.com
[22:05] <rohan> copy - paste :)
[22:05] <arrrghhh> Slacke1, autocomplete with tab.  just like in the shell.
[22:06] <Mr_Bad_News> TRICKERY!!!
[22:06] <ManualOverDozer8> furs: its a channel service, i use Pidgin i see it every time. you can juts close it, if need be
[22:06] <russ> arrrghhh, learn something new every day ...
[22:06] <cypherdelic> ikonia: what do you talking about? im searching for a hardy64 bitbinarie of VLC 0.9, i never talked to chanserv
[22:06] <ikonia> cypherdelic: that wasn't meant for you
[22:06] <Slacke1> thanks
[22:06] <arrrghhh> russ, i use it in the terminal almost feverishly
[22:06] <rohan> http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/sid-amd64/arch/vlc_0.9.0-git20080727-2_amd64.deb ???
[22:06] <cypherdelic> ikonia: oh im sorry then, please watch your highlight
[22:07] <ryan_22> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave <-- Has anyone solved this issue yet?
[22:07] <ManualOverDozer8> i use VLC on windows/linux, they both work better than the preinstalled ones that come with the OS's
[22:07] <nonewmsgs> sometimes in movieplayer when i am watching a dvd and i switch audio tracks it gets pissy and i lose all sound even it turn it back to the original track
[22:08] <rolle> anyone know of any known issues with Rhythmbox 0.11.5  and playback of CDs?
[22:08] <Slacke1> Q: what happens when all 1297 persons in the room send a message almost instantly?
[22:08] <Flannel> Slacke1: We all get to read lots
[22:09] <Slacke1> Flannel: lol
[22:09] <rolle> chanserv dies?
[22:09] <will00> is there a program that would organize a bunch of mp3s into a set file system whenever new files would appear in a set folder?
[22:09] <Slacke1> yay! just used tab.
[22:09] <ManualOverDozer8> Slacke1: i would assume there is a buffer for just that thing
[22:09] <mlLK> omfg vbox is owasome
[22:09] <rolle> So no guesses?
[22:10] <nonewmsgs> what is vbox?
[22:10] <nonewmsgs> oh nm
[22:10] <ikonia> m1k3: please watch out for phrases like omfg and wtf - we know what they mean and don't need to see it
[22:10] <arrrghhh> nonewmsgs, i assume virtualbox
[22:10] <nonewmsgs> i had a blonde moment
[22:10] <rolle> my CD's won't play.. but it readsthem.. can tell you all the tracks and shat
[22:10] <InsomniaCity`> ryan_: ooh, thanks, I've been looking for something like tunnel manager :)
[22:10] <mlLK> nonewmsgs, vbox is awsome
[22:10] <alan_m> nonewmsgs, thats ok :D
[22:10] <rolle> could be a driver issue?
[22:10] <mlLK> !virtualbox
[22:10] <ryan_> y but idk if it works
[22:10] <furseiseki> rawr
[22:10] <rohan> https://launchpad.net/~mapopa/+archive/+build/662758 -- FYI
[22:10] <rohan> help :- http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/03/new-face-to-vlc-media-player-090git.html
[22:11] <mlLK> it's clean as can be, very easy to use
[22:11] <rohan> help2 - http://jimicompot.blogspot.com/2008/04/vlc-nighlty-amd64-build-for-hardy.html
[22:11] <ryan_> i set it up but i get a message "Tunnel 'SSH Tunnel' stopped.
[22:11] <ryan_> ssh: connect to host 69.xx.xx.xx port 22: Connection refused
[22:11] <furseiseki> anyone run ubuntu studio?
[22:11] <InsomniaCity`> ryan_: ok - so first off, try it on the command line
[22:11] <InsomniaCity`> ssh 69..blah
[22:12] <arrrghhh> ryan_, is the port on firewall AND router open?
[22:12] <ryan_> ya thats wut im thinkin
[22:12] <ryan_> cuz it was refused so fast
[22:12] <ryan_> so wut port forward it on my wireless router
[22:12] <rohan> vlc 0.9 it will work
[22:13] <rohan> give the links a try
[22:13] <rolle> my turn, help me now =p
[22:13] <arrrghhh> ryan_, i recommend going to portforward.com.  very good site.
[22:13] <rohan> rolle: go ahead
[22:13] <ryan_> ya ive used it b4
[22:13] <mlLK> might someone recommend a good css + html manager for developing sites?
[22:13] <rolle> anyone know of any known issues with Rhythmbox 0.11.5  and playback of CDs?
[22:14] <rolle> my CD's won't play.. but it readsthem.. can tell you all the tracks and shat
[22:14] <rolle> could be a driver issue?
[22:14] <arrrghhh> m1k3, kompozer
[22:14] <mlLK> rolle, you install all the codecs? which distro?
[22:14] <tkach> My folder on my windows computer is shared on my network, but I can't seem to access it. I used to be able just click Places-->Network-->Windows Network and I could see everything. Now I can't see any of the shared folders. Is there something I could be missing?
[22:14] <rolle> hardy
[22:14] <ManualOverDozer8> rolle: just a shot in the dark> do you have the audio cable hooked up from the CDROM to the soundcard ?
[22:14] <JarG0n> hello.  Is there a solution for the upgrade localedef error (Gutsy to Hardy)
[22:15] <ryan_> so if i set that up then what would i use to open the connection from like a cafe
[22:15] <rolle> Not sure if i d/l any codecs
[22:15] <l3x> why is ubuntu 8.04 so slower than 7.10? i installed on the same machine, no tweaks... laptop intel pentium M 1.6ghz 1gb ram
[22:15] <ManualOverDozer8> rolle: also, maybe you can check your volume settings
[22:15] <rolle> i'm new to lynics
[22:15] <rolle> Its not even pretending to play
[22:15] <rohan> install all codecs in one shot
[22:15] <arrrghhh> rolle, it's linux.
[22:15] <russ> rolle can you play cd's with any other application?
[22:15] <mlLK> rolle, its k; http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy
[22:16] <arrrghhh> and yea have you tried to play the cd with vlc?
[22:16] <rolle> i only see this one player
[22:16] <rolle> perhaps i'll d/l another one
[22:16] <rolle> sudo apt-get vlc ?
[22:16] <mlLK> rolle, its k; http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gusty then
[22:16] <rohan> paste this command  ---  sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 w32codecs
[22:16] <l3x> rolle: use synaptic to install apps
[22:16] <Slacke1> Hmmm....just had an interesting idea. What if all the people in the room constantly sends messages and overflows the buffer?
[22:16] <joel__> df
[22:16] <Flannel> JarG0n: its a known problem: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/249340
[22:16] <rohan> after you do this you needs are done -- u can isntall vlc as you typed above
[22:16] <joel__> name kikau
[22:16] <joel__> nickname kikau
[22:16] <l3x> Slacke1: why do that?
[22:17] <Flannel> JarG0n: there appears to be a workaround there
[22:17] <rolle> okay I'll do that now
[22:17] <kikau> hey people
[22:17] <rolle> :)
[22:17] <varitech> hello
[22:17] <rohan> rolle: ok i am waiting
[22:17] <Slacke1> rollle: try gnome-volume-control and under switches tab uncheck digital out. I think thats what your lookin for
[22:17] <arrrghhh> Slacke1, what if everyone pulled all their money out of all banks all at once?  what do you think would happen?
[22:17] <rohan> yeah thats also a possibility
[22:17] <l3x> why is ubuntu 8.04 so slower than 7.10? i installed on the same machine, no tweaks... laptop intel pentium M 1.6ghz 1gb ram
[22:18] <rohan> Crashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh + nobody will understand whats going on
[22:18] <l3x> arrrghhh: that would be great!!!!
[22:18] <Slacke1> dns attack style. lol
[22:18] <russ> Slacke1, or what if everybody flushed the toilet at once? end of civilization as we know it.
[22:18] <JarG0n> !localedef
[22:18] <Flannel> Slacke1, arrrghhh, That's not really a topic for this channel, you mind taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[22:18] <Slacke1> sorry if i seem ......malicious
[22:18] <l3x> ddos
[22:18] <arrrghhh> Flannel, sorry
[22:18] <l3x> but bank style!
[22:18] <rohan> rolle: hmm wassup
[22:18] <rolle> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[22:18] <rolle>   medibuntu-keyring
[22:19] <rolle> y anyways?
[22:19] <ManualOverDozer8> l3x: on my old box, 8.x dont seem any faster, nor slower, yet smoother
[22:19] <arrrghhh> i was just trying to prove a point about what-ifs
[22:19] <kikau> hey viri_tt
[22:19] <Slacke1> Flannel: sorry, forgot this was dedicated help
[22:19] <Flannel> arrrghhh: no worries.
[22:19] <l3x> ManualOverDozer8: lucky you...
[22:20] <rohan> ???
[22:20] <ManualOverDozer8> l3x: i am very happy with 8.x as i dont need to do the boot mod of irqpoll so my machine dont lock up every ten minutes like 7.x did
[22:20] <l3x> can we do dos attacks with no computers?
[22:20] <ikonia> l3x: no - this is offtopic
[22:20] <mlLK> rolle, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Installing_Codecs doesn't do it?
[22:20] <ikonia> l3x: you know this - you've been in here long enough - stop now please.
[22:20] <l3x> i was just kidding:)
[22:20] <rolle> rohan: computer workign its magic now
[22:20] <ikonia> l3x: don't
[22:20] <rolle> mlLK: i'll check it out
[22:20] <l3x> ikonia: ok, sorry
[22:20] <b0ef> ehlo
[22:20] <b0ef> helping a friend out, I installed ubuntu on a acer inspire one using the usb flash chip, but it only setup a terminal environment. Any apt-get to install the rest?, like gnome and all?;)
[22:21] <Flannel> b0ef: ubuntu-desktop
[22:21] <rohan> rolle: hehe well then its your credit enjoy blast some music
[22:21] <b0ef> Flannel: thanks;)
[22:21] <russ> is it possible to install ubuntu on a flash drive and then run my windows laptop from it?
[22:21] <rolle> rohan: well its getting all that crap==slow wifi =p
[22:22] <Flannel> russ: Yes, you'd just boot to the USB like booting to a CD
[22:22] <alan_m> !usb | russ
[22:22] <rohan> rolle: please explain
[22:22] <alan_m> Russ: hope that helps :)
[22:23] <russ> alan_m, thanks I'll check it out
[22:23] <rolle> rohan: nate@desktop:~$ sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 w32codecs
[22:23] <elexodus__>  anybody know how to package their own live CD?
[22:23] <rolle> that
[22:23] <l3x> did anyone experienced 8.04 running slower than 7.10, or is it just me??? i did no tweaks at all... same ubuntu and kubuntu...
[22:23] <Flannel> elexodus__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[22:23] <ikonia> l3x: it should run the same - what video card do you have ?
[22:24] <l3x> ikonia: intel i915 integrated gpu
[22:24] <rolle> expodweeb: the website told me pretty easily how ot ake the cd
[22:24] <rolle> took about 3 minutes
[22:24] <ikonia> l3x: do you have hardware acceleration working on that card ?
[22:24] <l3x> ikonia: on my laptop (which is muy only comp)
[22:24] <anakron_> Hi
[22:24] <moreau> could someone give me a hand with installing xf86-video-intel?  i used the command "git-clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel " to get it, but now I dont know what to do with these files
[22:24] <l3x> ikonia: dunno. how do i check it?
[22:25] <rohan> so is the volume not there or its choppy or something?
[22:25] <anakron_> i got an 768 error when i trying to update 5-a-day, how i can do it?
[22:25] <ikonia> l3x: does glxinfo show it as enabled
[22:26] <ikonia> l3x: or does glxgears run "smooth"
[22:26] <elexodus__> Flannel: looks good. I am trying to package my tweeked version of Ubuntu complete with drivers, modified kernel, and custom appearance onto a cd before I have to ship my comp for RMA (must revert beck to vista)
[22:26] <rolle> rohan: it would have to play in order to find out if there is volume
[22:26] <l3x> ikonia: wait, I will check...
[22:26] <rolle> it will just say:  0:3:32
[22:26] <rolle> or something of that sort
[22:26] <rohan> hmm what are u trying to play?
[22:26] <rolle> coldplay
[22:26] <tkach> I'm having trouble viewing shared folders on my windows machine. It used to be really ease, but since I switched routers I can't see the shared folders anymore. (It sees the network, just not the folders) What could I be missing?
[22:27] <l3x> ikonia: what is glxinfo?? sorry for a dumb question :)
[22:27] <ikonia> l3x: a command
[22:27] <l3x> ikonia: i do not have it. do i have to install it from a repo?
[22:27] <rohan> any error messages?
[22:28] <ikonia> l3x: just try "glxgears -info"
[22:28] <rohan> did u check the volume control
[22:28] <snarkster> is it possible to do a full install on a 8gb usb stick and use it on multiple computers?
[22:28] <rohan> if not double click pls
[22:28] <l3x> ikonia: no gl* commands in my konsole
[22:28] <rohan> check Master volume
[22:28] <Flannel> snarkster: Yes
[22:28] <Gillpy> elexodus__: how did your ftp server come along?
[22:28] <FuneralDancer> hello all
[22:28] <ikonia> l3x: please show me the output of "echo $PATH£
[22:28] <ikonia> l3x: please show me the output of "echo $PATH"
[22:29] <snarkster> flannel that is not useing a live cd image right, but a complete install?
[22:29] <Flannel> snarkster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing%20on%20external%20or%20RAID%20hard%20disks
[22:29] <rolle> master volume is full.. and sounds on IRC work
[22:29] <snarkster> thank you
[22:29] <l3x> ikonia: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[22:30] <rolle> Sorry for asking dumb question--still just getting used to this this :)
[22:30] <rohan> hmm mp3 or wma or ogg
[22:30] <ikonia> l3x: thats odd you should have glxgears as part of the default install
[22:30] <FurryNemesis> ogg!
[22:30] <filthpig> hm.. Does anybody know when or if compiz will be a real alternative as default WM for people wanting to play games and do some 3D work?
[22:30] <armr> where can I find a list of supported hard ware for ubuntu?
[22:30] <rohan> i am also not a geek rolle just trying to help
[22:30] <ikonia> !hcl | armr
[22:30] <rolle> it plays wav file i  know for sure
[22:30] <l3x> ikonia: it appears that i do not. i installed it.
[22:30] <FurryNemesis> filthpig, right now
[22:31] <snarkster> flannel is that pendrive link the one that uses the livecd image?
[22:31] <arrrghhh> rolle, have you tried alsamixer?
[22:31] <filthpig> FurryNemesis, so you're telling me Compiz does not affect 3D performance?
[22:31] <l3x> ikonia: glxinfo direct rendering: yes. is that it?
[22:31] <filthpig> bah
[22:31] <ikonia> l3x: yes, sounds good
[22:31] <rohan> do u have vlc installed
[22:32] <rohan> try on that
[22:32] <isleshocky77> I have this done on one of my ubuntu machines, and now I can't remember how i did it. How do I have my computer check the local bind server for dns first before going out to the internet?
[22:32] <isleshocky77> oh resolve.conf
[22:32] <isleshocky77> but I believe there is a way to have the networkmanager insert the dns in there automatically.
[22:32] <l3x> ikonia: glxgears run "smooth" 651 fps :) do you know what seems to be a problem?
[22:33] <skarface> isleshocky77: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient/dhclient.conf
[22:33] <rolle> i don't.. i'm in synaptic package manager right now
[22:33] <ryan_> ok i have now port forwarded ssh tunnel manager but now i get "Tunnel 'SSH Tunnel' stopped.
[22:33] <ryan_> ssh: connect to host 69.xx.xx.xx port 22: Connection timed out" any suggestions?
[22:33] <skarface> isleshocky77: er /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf I guess
[22:33] <ikonia> l3x: well your running ok, one thing to try is put the line Driver "intel" in your xorg.conf file in the video device section to force xorg to use the more advanced "intel" driver, incase it's falling back to the i810 driver
[22:33] <moreau> ﻿could someone give me a hand with installing xf86-video-intel?  i used the command "git-clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel " to get it, but now I dont know what to do with autogen.sh, configure.ac and Makefile
[22:33] <rohan> hmm ok cool
[22:33] <cypha> anyone familiar with broadcom 43xx?
[22:33] <rohan> sudo apt-get install vlc
[22:33] <rohan> is it working?
[22:34] <l3x> ikonia: thank you very much
[22:34] <skarface> isleshocky77: it's the commented out "prepend domain-name-servers ..." line
[22:34] <glitsj16> hi all
[22:34] <cypha> where's that guy Broadcom that used to hang around here?
[22:34] <rolle> its d/l
[22:34] <rohan> awesome
[22:35] <rohan> lets hope for the best brb after a short break :)
[22:35] <isleshocky77> skarface: In which file?
[22:35] <skarface> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[22:35] <tj1515> i get crappy fullscreen flash video i've tried disabling compiz but it didn't help is anyone else having this problem
[22:35] <isleshocky77> skarface: Thanks.
[22:35] <gordonjcp> tj1515: full screen flash *is* crappy ;-)
[22:36] <tkach> I have an external hard drive that is shared on another windows machine. I used to be able to access it under "Network" in Ubuntu, now I can't. Any ideas as to what I may be missing.
[22:36] <rohan> tj1515: sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[22:36] <sami> Is there any free repository so that I can use RapidSVN?
[22:37] <tj1515> gordonjcp: but in windows it loks much better
[22:37] <rolle> Need to get 12.2MB of archives.
[22:37] <rolle> After this operation, 32.3MB of additional disk space will be used.
[22:37] <rolle> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[22:37] <rolle> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe libwxbase2.6-0 2.6.3.2.2-2ubuntu4 [556kB]
[22:37] <rolle> 3% [1 libwxbase2.6-0 441953/556kB 79%]                                           21.6kB/s 9min5s
[22:37] <FloodBot3> rolle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <gordonjcp> tj1515: that's because Adobe don't care about you
[22:37] <rolle> got it
[22:37] <rohan> go ahead say yes
[22:37] <`brooks> is there no such thing as manual installation in ubuntu?  everything is handled through package-handlers?
[22:37] <tj1515> i figured it may be something like that
[22:38] <rohan> try tj1515 i think it will fix it
[22:38] <glitsj16> tj1515: running flash 9 ? if so, fullscreen support is somewhat improved in the flash player 10 beta 2, you could try installing that to see if it improves any
[22:39] <l3x> ikonia: sorry for being boring, but: path is /etc/x11/xorg.conf... right? and i cannot find the line "driver" for graphic card...
[22:39] <rolle> says it will take abobut an hour to DL =p   Think I might go grab a coffee and read up on ubuntu hehe
[22:39] <ryan_> what does it mean when  "Connection timed out"
[22:40] <glitsj16> `brooks: it's still a fully able linux, compiling your own stuff is still possible if you want to go that route
[22:40] <ikonia> l3x: thats why I said "add the line"
[22:40] <rohan> sure take your time
[22:40] <`brooks> k, ty glits
[22:41] <Chobo-Mog> Does anyone know if its possible to restart the sound server when one application (Rhythmbox, VLC, Totem etc) locks it up, preventing other applications from playing sound, or stopping all sound at all
[22:41] <rohan> is there aguide for xchat-gnome
[22:41] <esac> how can i make the text on the gnome panel white, for example where it has "Applications  Places  System"
[22:41] <l3x> ikonia: so, i suppose to add "Driver" intel anywhere in the file? at the beggining, or at the end, or... sorry, i never edited configuration files, i do not want to screw up :)
[22:41] <tkach> OK, now I'm trying to use a printer. I go to printer config, and select windows printer via samba. The SMB browser sees the windows network and it sees "Compaq" (the other computer) but when I click "compaq" to view available printers, the printer config freezes.
[22:41] <rolle> rohan: what you need with it?
[22:41] <ikonia> l3x: no - please pay attention
[22:41] <rohan> rolle: didn't get you
[22:42] <RxDx> was the problem that reduces the hd life-time fixed?
[22:42] <Chobo-Mog> Restarting X or the computer itself does this, but loses all the running applications
[22:42] <ikonia> l3x: in the Device section for the video device - add the line Driver "intel"
[22:42] <Squee__> Does anyone know a good expresscard atheros 80211n card that works in linux?
[22:42] <rolle> rohan: You asked about xchat?
[22:42] <tj1515> rohan: thanks but it didn't fix it
[22:42] <l3x> ikonia: ok. sorry:)
[22:42] <nikolam> Hi. Monitor on my desktop machine died this evening. How do I connect to it from my other machine on local network to get some files I am working on? (or to put it this way: How do i start sshd and enable sshd port on firewall, on machine i don1t have monitor on it?
[22:42] <rohan> yeah a guide kind of a thing u know -- i am new to irc
[22:43] <rohan> hmmm uninstall flash and reinstall :) last suggestion
[22:43] <rolle> rohan: if you use /set it will show all your options
[22:43] <rolle> rohan: this might help as well http://t0x.in/xchatsetvars.html
[22:43] <rohan> rolle: awesome dude thanks
[22:44] <rolle> rohan: no problem--i'm new to all of this stuff.  I'm so used to my mIRC =p
[22:44] <eie> hi
[22:44] <eie> how can I disable motherboard beebs?
[22:44] <rohan> i will try that too - can i add u ?
[22:44] <moreau> is xserver-xorg-video-intel a crappy driver?  there seems be Intel-made linux drivers for my 945g express, but I cant find them
[22:45] <HymnToLife> eie: unplug the speaker
[22:45] <ikonia> eie: unplug the speaker, ubuntu doesn't control your bios
[22:45] <rolle> rohan: also, xchat has a channel on here as well.. should be /j #xchat
[22:45] <zack1403> has anyone had good results trying to run WOW on hardy haron?
[22:45] <ikonia> zack1403: tons of people
[22:45] <zack1403> nice
[22:45] <HymnToLife> moreau: o, it is a very good one
[22:45] <zack1403> its installing now but just wanted to check
[22:45] <rohan> rolle: is there a option to add someone so that whenever that person is available i can discuss
[22:45] <l3x> ikonia: i suppose to reboot now to take effect, right?
[22:45] <ikonia> l3x: or restart the x server
[22:46] <netcrash> good evening , any one know alternatives to nautilus ?
[22:46] <HymnToLife> konquerir
[22:46] <eie> ikonia, hmm weird.. windows tweak had something to disable those beeps
[22:46] <rolle> rohan: i think that's called notice or soemthign of the sort.  I'm on here and on icq pretty much 24/7
[22:46] <HymnToLife> s/i/o/
[22:46] <l3x> ikonia: in a few minutes. just to finish my download. thank you very much ikonia
[22:46] <ikonia> eie: ubuntu doesn't control or interact with your bios
[22:46] <rohan> ohhi just figured one ting private chat is also an option :)
[22:47] <Sylphid> im looking for a replacement mini-pci wireless card can anyone recommend a card that gets good range (as that is the issue with my current card) and preferably works out of the box  (intel 2200 is what im currently looking at)
[22:47] <demian> uh... great update people... firefox doesn't work anymore
[22:47] <russ> netcrash, also Dolphin
[22:47] <rolle> eie: you refering to the pc speakers?  Go into volume and disable system pc speakers
[22:47] <demian> anyone know how I can reverse the update?
[22:47] <moreau> HymnToLife: I seem to have problems with FPS in games and I was told to use a non-proprietery driver---is that one considered proprietary? cuz it was automatically istalled when I first installed ubuntu
[22:48] <cypha> someone with a broadcom wireless connection PLEASE HELP
[22:48] <HymnToLife> moreau: it's the one I'm using on my Eee, and it seems to be the best one available, at least it enables direct rendering
[22:48] <dolphin_noel> i'm sorry the question if i just simple change the ... /etc/passwd to root /bin/false after that ... if i make one ... rescue ... the root it still works?! to i can change the ... place ?! ou i need to use it some live cd and mount the system?!
[22:48] <cypha> ubuntu doesn't realize that i have wireless capabilities
[22:48] <eie> rolle, lol thanks Sound - system beeps disabled
[22:48] <dolphin_noel> to change the root file options ...
[22:49] <dolphin_noel> :X
[22:49] <rolle> eie: no problem.. that was the first thing i found out that i wanted to get rid of =p
[22:49] <ryan_> does anyone know off good ssh proxy tutorials or managers?
[22:49] <tkach> I can't access the other computers on the network. I know they are shared, but clicking "Windows Network" just takes a long time and then shows an empty folder. any ideas as to what I may be missing?
[22:49] <eie> rolle, heh same here using wubi for the second time
[22:50] <l3x> tkach: check ip addresses
[22:50] <rolle> eie: what is wubi?  i'm a true noob
[22:50] <eie> !wubi
[22:50] <HymnToLife> rolle: some tool to install Ubuntu from inside Windows
[22:51] <moreau> ok then lets say its a good enough driver to not give me crappy framerates--whatis Mesa3d?  I was told to isntall that as well....but it says its for openGL, and xserer-xorg-video-intel already gives openGL support
[22:51] <Volkodav> what's the alpha 10.4 channel?
[22:51] <HymnToLife> moreau: do    glxinfo | grep -i direct
[22:51] <tkach> l3x if one computers ip ends in 1.2 and the other in 1.3 would that cause a problem
[22:51] <HymnToLife> do you have DR enabled or not ?
[22:51] <unop> demian,  sudo aptitude install firefox=version_you_want
[22:51] <l3x> tkach: i had that problem when my roommate (running windows) rebooted, the switch changed his IP and had the same ip as me on mepis :)
[22:52] <moreau> yea it does have direct rendering
[22:52] <l3x> tkach: is your ip different that the other ones on that network?
[22:52] <eie> guys my pc monitor supports 60Hz and here in ubuntu is set to 50Hz as maximum in System - Screen resolution.. is there a different way to adjust it
[22:52] <demian> unop, thnx I'm installing version 2 via synaptic, weird though
[22:53] <tkach> l3x, my Ubuntu computers network reads 192.168.1.2 and the computer I'm trying to connect to reads 192.168.1.3
[22:53] <moreau> but are you sure that the xserver video intel driver isnt just some POS that gives minimal support, just enough to get basic graphics working?
[22:53] <l3x> tkach: if it is a small network, they should be like 192.168.1.*
[22:53] <esac> how can i make the text on the gnome panel white, for example where it has "Applications  Places  System"
[22:54] <l3x> tkach: try the address in file browser smb:/192.168.1.3
[22:55] <l3x> tkach: if that fails, check firewall settings, and check is samba properly installed on you ubuntu
[22:57] <tkach> l3x, I'm sorry I'm very new to Ubuntu, I just installed it so I could give new life to a struggling machine. where is the file browser? also my windows firewall is turned off
[22:57] <Sylphid> im looking for a replacement mini-pci wireless card can anyone recommend a card that gets good range (as that is the issue with my current card) and preferably works out of the box  (intel 2200 is what im currently looking at)
[22:57] <moreau> tkach click 'places' on the top menu bar
[22:57] <demian> tkach, the filebrowser is top left, Places. You have some pre-defined maps
[22:57] <demian> hehehe
[22:58] <moreau> and theres is no windows firewall in ubuntu
[22:58] <demian> en there is no windows firewall... cause terhe
[22:58] <l3x> hihi
[22:58] <demian> never mind
[22:58] <demian> :)
[22:58] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: I can recommend IPW2200
[22:58] <l3x> demian: there is no windows, right...???
[22:58] <l3x> :)
[22:58] <demian> hehehe
[22:58] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: that's what's in my Thinkpad R50e
[22:58] <demian> damn skippy l3x
[22:58] <l3x> mhm
[22:59] <robini> Hi, i would like to have spell check i my locale lang, in firefox, pidgin and so on... it it aspell i have to install?
[22:59] <moreau> anyone know how to get a USB floppy drive to show up?
[22:59] <Sylphid> gordonjcp, thank you ... out of curiosity what kind of range do you get with it?
[22:59] <gordonjcp> robini: no, you add it as a firefox addon
[22:59] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: don't know, never tried
[22:59] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: "quite a lot"
[22:59] <robini> Ok, then what about pidgin?
[22:59] <moreau> pidgin already has a very annoying spell checker
[22:59] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: far end of a smallish suburban garden, with a crappy router at the wrong side of the house
[23:00] <demian> tkach, if you want a firewall you can install one if you want to. Go to aplications -> Add/Remove select all available aplications and search for firewall
[23:00] <Sylphid> gordonjcp, fair enough ... i lose mine at ~40ft with my current one
[23:00] <Sylphid> gordonjcp, thats exactly what im looking for, thank you much
[23:00] <tkach> smb:/192.168.1.3 turned up nothing, l3x
[23:00] <robini> Ok, i thought there was some kind of system-wide spell checker
[23:00] <demian> robini, you can look it up in synaptic, I think it's myspell
[23:00] <koshari> tkach >places, nautilus is the name of the default file browser
[23:00] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: even better, it works well with BackTrack
[23:00] <remsoft> demian: i want a firewall to
[23:01] <l3x> tkach: hmmm... dunno
[23:01] <robini> Like if i use x-chat it also uses some kind of spellchecker
[23:01] <tkach> demian, oh I'm just trying to connect to a shared folder
[23:01] <l3x> tkach: what ubuntu version are you using?
[23:01] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: if you find yourself needing to recover lost WEP or WPA-PSK keys, it's the weapon of choice
[23:01] <demian> if you want a firewall you can install one if you want to. Go to aplications -> Add/Remove select all available aplications and search for firewall
[23:01] <robini> Ok, ill try myspell
[23:01] <cypha> can i use the vista driver with ndiswrapper?
[23:01] <tkach> l3x hardy
[23:01] <zelrikriando> Is there a way to avoid ubuntu messing up with my screen luminosity?
[23:01] <koshari> demian linux comes with iptables by DEFAULT
[23:02] <l3x> tkach: in places there should be connect to remote server or something like that
[23:02] <demian> I know.. it's kind of useless... but if he wants one
[23:02] <l3x> tkach: try from there
[23:02] <moreau> anyoneknow why my usb flopy drive isnt showing u
[23:02] <slacking> dmesg
[23:02] <rolle> moreau: is it plugged in?
[23:02] <koshari> demian what do you mean its useless? if you want a fancy gui you can use firestarter to administer iptables
[23:03] <moreau> wtf man
[23:03] <clayg> If I wanted to reinstall ubuntu, would it be fine to just install a new install, then after moving all "my stuff" to the new one, knock out the old partition?
[23:03] <moreau> dont ask me that
[23:03] <clayg> or should I just copy everything in my home dirfectory to a large usb drive and copy it over after installing?
[23:03] <zerogate> how can i move programs from one virtual desktop to another?
[23:03] <clayg> i don't want to leave anything behind
[23:03] <inspyre> whats the channel for the next release?
[23:03] <l3x> mostly, linux users believe that they do not need firewall, because linux is protected as it is... :)))
[23:03] <debian_akroyd> hello all
[23:03] <glitsj16> inspyre: #ubuntu+1
[23:04] <inspyre> ghostbusters akroyd?
[23:04] <Sylphid> gordonjcp, thank you, just the review i needed
[23:04] <demian> koshari, you're right. But you can only get it to work if you're sort of familiar with gnu/linux. He just said he was'nt so then it's kind of useless right?
[23:04] <koshari> clayg first make a aptondvd or personal repo to back up all your updated debs, then copy your home dir, and after install copy things back as required.
[23:04] <inspyre> glitsj16: thanks
[23:05] <koshari> demian true sorta, iptables works out of the box and doesnt need any tweaking unless you want ot.
[23:05] <clayg> koshari, is that as easy as grabbing aptondvd ? or are there other things involved?
[23:05] <zelrikriando> How do I avoid ubuntu to mess around with my screen luminosity?
[23:06] <robini> myspell did the trick, thanks!
[23:06] <koshari> clayg yes it is, however personally i uses dpkg scanpackages to keep a current repo on my ipod as i maintain about 4 machines that dont have broadband access.
[23:06] <linch7> Q: does someone know how search through old shell commands?
[23:06] <cypha> Should i use the Vista driver or the XP driver with NDISWRAPPER for my broadcom wireless?
[23:06] <ubuntu__> hi
[23:07] <clayg> koshari, so it will  just be references to the programs i have installed not the actual program right
[23:07] <remsoft> the XP driver works you can use it
[23:07] <debian_akroyd> ubuntu__, hello
[23:07] <clayg> koshari, tried "dpkg scanpackage" didn't work , what am i doing wrong?
[23:07] <ubuntu__> where i can see what controller sata my computer is usung
[23:07] <l3x> is lenny out??
[23:07] <Chainfire> Hi all. I'm running Ubuntu Server 8 (*nix-semi-nub, set it up yesterday). I'm trying to get internet sharing to work. However, I'm having some trouble with dhcp3-server. It insists on giving my Vista (ugh) laptop two gateways, 0.0.0.0 (?) and 192.168.1.1 (correct). If I manually add a route to 192.168.1.1 routing works, it's just that 0.0.0.0 that I can't get rid off and mucks it all up. Found more people on the net with this problem, but no so
[23:08] <koshari> clayg your home dir will keep all the user config files (as well as your personal data) for all the installed apps.
[23:08] <victor__> Hi, I have a problem with MythTV: I can scan digital channels with my Kworld ATSC 120 TV Tuner, but Myth TV can't play them; there's a black screen when I watch TV
[23:08] <ikonia> Chainfire: it doesnt give 0.0.0.0 as a gateway
[23:08] <debian_akroyd> l3x, i dont think so. i think there still in beta..check their website to be sure
[23:08] <inspyre> ubuntu__: lspci -v?
[23:08] <ikonia> Chainfire: thats a destination (default)
[23:08] <koshari> clayg there usually hidden directorys ie, .nautilus, .gedit ect
[23:08] <l3x> M'kay debian_akroyd, thanks
[23:08] <Chainfire> ikonia> it shows up as default gateway under "ipconfig /all" in Vista...
[23:09] <l3x> +
[23:09] <Chainfire> how do I get rid of it?
[23:09] <koshari> victor__ google garry parker mythtv it has a very good guide
[23:09] <ikonia> Chainfire: pastebin ipconfig /all in vista into a pastebin please.
[23:09] <zerogate> how can i move programs from one virtual desktop to another?
[23:09] <clayg> koshari, thanks, last question. Would you insall another install in a new partition, move then delete the old parition? or just copy the home dir then tear the whole thing down and install?
[23:09] <l3x> sorry, i kicked my keyboard :)
[23:09] <Chainfire> yessir *runs to other computer*
[23:09] <Soopa> hi all
[23:09] <debian_akroyd> lol l3x
[23:10] <Soopa> i'm looking for torrents of gtk and emerald themes
[23:10] <l3x> they released 4.0r4 :)
[23:10] <Soopa> any idea if there are any?
[23:10] <ikonia> Soopa: visit gnome-look.org and download direct, they are not big
[23:10] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd hasnt used debian in a while..stuck on ubuntu
[23:11] <Soopa> ikonia: well, I'd like to download a whole bunch at a time
[23:11] <l3x> the future ubuntu will have kde as default??? what about that??? did you read that?
[23:11] <l3x> ubuntu is future of linux
[23:11] <debian_akroyd> kde??
[23:11] <debian_akroyd> that sucks
[23:11] <ikonia> Soopa: they are only a few K - its the same ammount of clicks as clicking "download"
[23:11] <koshari> clayg personally i would use a new install as the last resort, what i do is install ubuntu, with a decent sized second parttiion available. i then use partimage to make a snapshot of the system and save it on hte second partition after running update util. that way i have a methood of recovery back to current state which takes about 14 minutes.
[23:11] <l3x> if any distro does big bada boom, it would be ubuntu!
[23:11] <Soopa> ikonia: I suppose you're right :)  I'm just lazy :)
[23:11] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd hates kde
[23:11] <l3x> KDE rules!
[23:11] <debian_akroyd> im a gnome fan
[23:11] <koshari> clayg whats your actual problem?
[23:12] <zelrikriando> How do I 'lock' my screen luminosity on ubuntu?
[23:12] <ikonia> Soopa: it's less lazy than downloading and setting up torrents
[23:12] <debian_akroyd> << has been using gnome since ubuntu 5.04
[23:12] <l3x> debian_akroyd: why is debian_akroyd talking from third person??? :) that is funny
[23:12] <debian_akroyd> ll
[23:12] <debian_akroyd> lol**
[23:13] <l3x> i read that new versions of ubuntu will have kde as default desktop
[23:13] <clayg> koshari, I want to install but still have the old programs , email settings and other things stay the same
[23:13] <l3x> which is great! because of better programs for kde:)))))
[23:13] <ikonia> l3x: you read wrong, and this is off topic for a support channel, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter
[23:13] <debian_akroyd> l3x, 8.10 will have kde as default? well...ok
[23:13] <debian_akroyd> :*(
[23:13] <inspyre> they may as well call it gayde
[23:13] <elexodus> Anyone know where to get help for proftp on irc?
[23:13] <arthur> i have a questin pretaining to operamini and how or if you can get flash to work on a smartphone?
[23:13] <l3x> not 8.10, next one i think
[23:13] <clayg> koshari,  but if all is stored in the home directory then i can just copy that over.  The last question was personal preference and from what you saw it makes no difference which order I do them in or in which way
[23:13] <ikonia> debian_akroyd: they are 2 different versions, kubuntu has kde as default, ubuntu has gnome
[23:14] <debian_akroyd> 8.10 is the next one lex
[23:14] <`brooks> poll: best development interface for java, c++ ?
[23:14] <l3x> sorry for offtopic... i just wanted to see if that is true or not...
[23:14] <ikonia> l3x: please stop talking nonsense, ubuntu and kubuntu are two seperate products
[23:14] <debian_akroyd> l3x, they have a version of ubuntu titled kubuntu which has kde installed as default
[23:14] <dustrial> `brooks:  try netbeans?
[23:14] <debian_akroyd> regular ubuntu itself has gnome
[23:14] <koshari> clayg you are aware you can roll back things you installed in synaptic my checking the history file, and you can use remove completely and reinstall to replace apps that may be problemsome?
[23:14] <`brooks> will do, dustrial. ty.
[23:14] <Flapperbol> I tried to install something, and now ubuntu locked a folder of mine. does anyone know how to unlock it?
[23:15] <Flapperbol> It just says I don't have permission to open the folder
[23:15] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd, is afk
[23:15] <clayg> koshari, wasn't aware of it but it seems like every 6 months or so , so much crap has been changed that i begin having problems.  I have a google earth install that crashes xserver, I don't know how to remove it ,it wasn't installed via synaptic or apt, the computer hangs when starting alot of window-esk problems that I think would be less effort just reinstalling than trying to figure out each and everyone
[23:15] <dustrial> what does ls -l say? Flapperbol?
[23:16] <koshari> clayg your email settings will be derived fron settings contained in your home /.evolution or whatever email proggie your using
[23:16] <clayg> koshari,  then there are the many programs i tried but never use and don't know whihc ones they are since i dont' use them
[23:16] <clayg> koshari,  awesome man, thanks
[23:16] <Flapperbol> dustrial: drwxrwx---  31 root       games       4096 2008-07-27 23:56 Downloads
[23:16] <clayg> koshari, sounds like the home copy is the best method
[23:17] <clayg> koshari, i think i'll install an another parition, then copy over and destroy the old parition then resize the new
[23:17] <dustrial> Flapperbol: and root cant use it?
[23:17] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd, is back
[23:18] <koshari> clayg then look into creating a partimage  backup when all is well, then you will just need to roll back the old partition, run update with your saved debs and your back in town
[23:18] <Chainfire> ikonia> http://pastebin.com/m48f19638
[23:18] <Flapperbol> dustrial: srry, a bit new to ubuntu. how do i login as root?
[23:18] <Pici> !root | Flapperbol
[23:18] <ikonia> Chainfire: I'd say thats a bug with windows to be hones,t you can't have 2 default gateways
[23:18] <root_> list
[23:19] <Chair> I'm interested in learning ubuntu.  I heard I can install it on my computer while I already have windows.. would I have to make a partition for it?  I've got two partitions now, one with xp and some free space, and the other with programs and free space.  Would I be able to install it on my program filled partition with no problems?
[23:19] <jrolson> nickrud you here?
[23:19] <dustrial> '$ sudo -s'   or '$ sudo su ' that is you type : sudo su --- the $ indecates that you are just a normal user
[23:19] <koshari> Chair hoe big is your free space
[23:19] <debian_akroyd> Chair, theres a little program on the ubuntu cd which will install ubuntu on your computer w/o repartitioning
[23:19] <dustrial> Flapperbol: read man pages to chown to unlock the folder
[23:20] <clayg> koshari, you da man now dog! thanks alot man, it'll be nice sliding into a new install.  Whenever my bro comesover he updates everyting and I get a crap load of kernels in my grub list, of coarse the newest version also seems to usually suck
[23:20] <Chainfire> ikonia> im not the only person having this prob with dhcp3-server ... lemme hook up some other comps... btw it worked fine with our other routers...
[23:20] <koshari> debian_akroyd i wouldnt use wubi
[23:20] <Chair> 25gb on my windows partition, 125gb on my programs partion
[23:20] <xelurg> Chair, if you want even less hassle - use VMWare and install it as a virtual machine.
[23:20] <ikonia> Chainfire: routers ?
[23:20] <ikonia> Chainfire: why are you using dhcp with routers
[23:20] <Flapperbol> dustrial: okay, as root i can enter it
[23:20] <Chainfire> uhm... well routers ;) "adsl-routers" and such
[23:20] <Flapperbol> i think something went wrong when I was installing
[23:20] <Chainfire> i'm replacing one of them with this box
[23:21] <debian_akroyd> Chair, well you could just split your programs partition so that ubuntu has 10 to 20 gig of free space
[23:21] <dustrial> Flapperbol:   yeah you should read about  permissions and changing permissions ... otherwise ubuntu is hard to use from console (terminal or commandline )
[23:21] <jrolson> I have 2 questions today. I got an email today that has a link for a video to watch on a website. When I go to the website it says that I need to update my flash player. Are there other flash players available besides adobe? I'm new to ubuntu so bear with me.
[23:21] <koshari> clayg you can easily remove the older kernel entries in grub by commenting them out in the menu.1st file
[23:21] <debian_akroyd> Chair, that is if you want 20 gig for ubuntu
[23:21] <omar> hi, does anyone know if I can shrink an NTFS partition with gparted, and is it safe to do it without loss of data?
[23:21] <ikonia> Chainfire: ok - so I don't see how thats relevant, a client should allow 2 default gateways on one card, so no matter if dhcp-server has a problem or not, I suspect there is a bug with the windows dhcp client
[23:22] <mad> is there a way to have apt-get check dependinces and remove packages that are no longer needed but got pulled in by another package? ( note if apt-get is debian, sorry and ill hop over there)
[23:22] <omar> actually, I want to resize my partitions, I want to shrink NTFS, and increase ext3 partition
[23:22] <ikonia> mad: autoremove is the option I think
[23:22] <debian_akroyd> omar, what ever you do, you still risk loosing data
[23:23] <mavsman4457> Hi I just downloaded kvpnc but I don't really know how to use it, are there any public PPTP servers that I can use?
[23:23] <mad> ikonia: autoremove is not anoption with apt-get there is autoclean but it just remove distfiles and not the installed packages i believe
[23:24] <Chainfire> ikonia ok... ill reset the ip stack on vista and see what happens... *crosses fingers* don't know why i didnt try that before though, hmm
[23:24] <dustrial> Flapperbol:  http://www.google.de/search?q=linux+permissions&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a     some pages to understand the output of $ls -l  and how to change it
[23:24] <ikonia> mad: autoremove should get rid of obsoulte package
[23:24] <dustrial> btw how do i use the bot?
[23:24] <omar> debian_akroyd, ok, I just found about ntfsresize to shrink my partition "without data loss", if I shrink it, is gparted suitable to increase my ext3 partition?, or should I use another app?
[23:24] <koshari> omar it should work, however ALWAYS backup data before atempting these sort of tasks, actually you should have a backup plan in place already if the drive was to dies immediately
[23:25] <debian_akroyd> omar, gparted can shrink partitions as well as expand them
[23:25] <TheBlasphemer> How can I set up my MythBuntu box to automatically mount USB external drives once I plug them in ?
[23:25] <omar> koshari, I just backed up the important data
[23:25] <koshari> omar gparted would call ntfsresize during its routine, gparted is bacsicly a framework which uses all the disk utikls
[23:25] <l3x> I'll be back
[23:25] <Flapperbol> thanks dustrial
[23:25] <zerogate> omar, you just have to make sure you do it from the live cd, you cannot change paritions where your current running os is placed on
[23:25] <omar> koshari, thats nice :D, didnt know about that, just installed ntfsprogs
[23:26] <omar> zerogate, mmmm, ok, downloading gparted live cd
[23:26] <derrich> I need to install ffmpeg with liba52 enabled - how can I do this through aptitude?
[23:26] <zerogate> omar, you can use the ubuntu live cd
[23:26] <derrich> liba52 support enabled, I mean
[23:26] <debian_akroyd> i believe ffmpeg comes installed by default on ubuntu
[23:26] <zerogate> how can i move programs from one virtual desktop to another?
[23:27] <omar> zerogate, roger, I have to burn it anyways :D, got the alternate CD
[23:27] <dustrial> zerogate:  you mean virtual machine?
[23:27] <rolle> success :)  system, preference, sounds,  changed from autodetect to another option =)
[23:27] <sugi> ﻿I just installed Morrowind on p4 1.8 GHz, Gb PC 3200, ATI 9600 SE Directed Rendering Enabled.  The game won't start up.  The Launcher works but no game.  http://pastebin.com/m5fe4156f
[23:27] <orbital_fox> there you are
[23:27] <derrich> debian_akroyd: ffmpeg wasn't installed by default, so i installed it manually. but to do what i'm trying to do, i need ffmpeg to have liba52 support, which isn't the 'default' option within aptitude
[23:27] <zerogate> dustrial, no i mean "workspace".
[23:28] <derrich> I'm new to Ubuntu, so I don't know how to specify extra functionality for programs within aptitude
[23:28] <Chainfire> ikonia> myeah fixed it with ip/stack reset... @$#@# vista! thx anyways.
[23:28] <dustrial> zerogate:  from one users desktop to a nother users desktop ?
[23:28] <zerogate> dustrial, the things you can switch by pressing ctrl+alt+right
[23:28] <debian_akroyd> derrich, i would use synaptic to look for liba52
[23:28] <xiantia_> bye all
[23:29] <debian_akroyd> dustrial, that will install it and enable it
[23:29] <mavsman4457> What program can I use in ubuntu that is similar to time machine on mac?
[23:29] <derrich> debian_akroyd: that package is already installed
[23:29] <debian_akroyd> hmm
[23:29] <debian_akroyd> ok
[23:29] <derrich> liba52 was installed prior to ffmpeg
[23:29] <koshari> derrich the standard ffmpg in the repos is hamstrung to comply with some countrys laws. there is a version in medibuntu thats a bit more thourough
[23:29] <dustrial> debian_akroyd: ?
[23:29] <zerogate> dustrial, don'T know what it'S called in english. there are symbols for them in the lower right corner (at least in gnome)
[23:29] <Fiona> anyone know how i get ubuntu?
[23:29] <debian_akroyd> dustrial, what is it you are trying to do with ffmpeg?
[23:29] <dustrial> zerogate:  i guess that is some compiz thing or something, i dont know?
[23:29] <derrich> koshari: i'm pretty new to ubuntu - are you saying that i need to enable some other software repository to install a non-crippled version of it?
[23:30] <cypherdelic> What about adding 16:10 aspect ratio mode to Totem??
[23:30] <johncoltrane> how are you guys doing? Does anyone know what my problem might be if every time I boot into ubuntu it freezes after a few seconds?
[23:30] <johncoltrane> no mouse response or anything
[23:30] <dustrial> zerogate:  ah now i see ... okay  .. well they are soupposed to be the same ... file structure ...  so just save it in the correct directory
[23:30] <mavsman4457> Whats the best backup solution for ubuntu?
[23:31] <koshari> derrich yes
[23:31] <koshari> !medibuntu
[23:31] <dustrial> debian_akroyd:  was not me =)
[23:31] <zerogate> dustrial, i mean when i'Ve launched a program while viewing virtual dekstop 1 - and i want to drag this launched program to virtual desktop 2
[23:31] <derrich> ok, thanks - i'll start reading now
[23:31] <dustrial> zerogate:  gnome or kde?
[23:31] <derrich> generally speaking, is it 'safe' to add 3rd-party software repos like that?
[23:31] <zerogate> dustrial, gnome
[23:32] <mavsman4457> How do I back up my system?
[23:32] <Gillpy> ee
[23:32] <zerogate> dustrial, just found out that i can rightclick the window decoration and move it - you know of any other way`?
[23:32] <dustrial> zerogate:  i didn't use gnome for a long periode ... but maybe you can right click the program in the "taskbar" and say move to desktop number 2 .... or you
[23:33] <dustrial> zerogate:  drag n drop it into the minimap
[23:34] <debian_akroyd> mavsman4457, search the repository for backup software
[23:34] <debian_akroyd> mavsman4457, they have tons of programs that will do just that
[23:34] <Mr_Bad_News> how the f do you install luadoc?
[23:34] <zerogate> dustrial, drag and drop doesnt work but the right click thing works. ive also just found out about this.thx
[23:34] <legend2440> !backup | mavsman4457
[23:34] <mavsman4457> debian_akroyd: I did that but I was wondering if there was a preferred one among the community
[23:35] <debian_akroyd> mavsman4457, you could use tar to do that
[23:35] <glitsj16> mavsman4457: FlyBack tries to emulate timemachine on ubuntu --> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/05/introducing-flyback-apples-time-machine.html
[23:35] <debian_akroyd> but i havent used tar for backing up for a long time so i cant provide much help there mavsman4457
[23:35] <debian_akroyd> !tar
[23:36] <debian_akroyd> hmm
[23:36] <debian_akroyd> ubottu didnt provide what i was looking for....
[23:36] <koshari> derrich i use that repo and havnt had any drama,
[23:36] <mavsman4457> Alright I'm sorry if I asked this question way too many times but my internet connection is messed up so I might be on delay, thanks for the answers
[23:36] <derrich> koshari: ok, cool. thanks.
[23:37] <koshari>  derrich however your point is valad, it not good practice to go adding repositorys all and sundry
[23:37] <debian_akroyd> mavsman4457, no problem
[23:37] <johncoltrane> my ubuntu just freezes a few seconds after I boot, can anyone help??
[23:38] <riegersn> how can i allow all my computers on my home network 192.168.1.* in firestarter?
[23:40] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd, is afk
[23:40] <riegersn> how can i allow all my computers on my home network 192.168.1.* in firestarter?
[23:41] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:41] <Sylphid> i have xchat installed which requires tk8.4 as a dependency however i need tk8.5 for homegrown scripts. how can I get xchat to not report as broken with tk8.5 installed instead of tk8.4?
[23:41] <pgreptom> Hi.  I just cold booted, and for some reason X was messedu p, was only displaying 640x480.  I re-configured x, and now am fully back online.  however, my widescreen monitor no longer takes a 1440x900 resolution, and I don't know why.  I try to change it with nvidia settings program, but it does not work.  any idea?
[23:42] <th0r> Sylphid, you could always compile from source
[23:42] <glitsj16> johncoltrane: anything in your logs to start looking for what might be causing that ?
[23:43] <whta> any way to make volume in flash apps not so soft? I have sound in them, but they're much softer than everything else
[23:44] <td123> whta: maybe turn the other apps down a little
[23:44] <riegersn> how can i allow all my computers on my home network 192.168.1.* in firestarter?
[23:45] <elexodus_> Anyone know where to get help for proftp on irc?
[23:45] <elexodus_> Anyone know where to get help for proftp at all?
[23:45] <ikonia> elexodus_: what sort of help
[23:45] <null> riegnersn: to allow all local network on a 192.168.1.* range you need to add a new rule that looks something like this 192.168.1.0/24 allowing all inbound connections
[23:45] <mlLK> !virtualbox
[23:45] <td123> riegersn: if no one answers you, you could try http://www.fs-security.com/
[23:45] <elexodus_> ikonia: having problems with my proftpd.conf file
[23:46] <ikonia> elexodus_: what sort of problems
[23:46] <td123> riegersn: start with the documentation
[23:46] <riegersn> td123, have
[23:46] <elexodus_> ikonia: " Fatal: error processing configuration file '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf'"
[23:46] <ikonia> elexodus_: ok - what does the log file say
[23:46] <koshari> riegersn man iptables
[23:46] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd, is back
[23:47] <ikonia> elexodus_: whats in the /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf file
[23:48] <koshari> riegersn specificly -s, --source
[23:48] <Bert_2> hi, how do I change the UUID of a partition ?
[23:48] <ikonia> Bert_2: you don't
[23:48] <ikonia> Bert_2: it changes when you change something physical about the partition
[23:49] <Bert_2> ikonia: what do you do then when you copy a partition ?
[23:49] <elexodus_> ikonia: nothing in the logs, here's the proftpd.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1084665
[23:49] <Mr_Bad_News> http://pastebin.com/m7b11f649
[23:49] <ikonia> Bert_2: what do you mean ?
[23:49] <Mr_Bad_News> anyone?
[23:49] <mlLK> when running a virtual machine are the guest's drivers irrelevant?
[23:50] <koshari> mlLK no they are needed to use things like dynamic display size and pulse-audio interaction work properly
[23:50] <Blaqlight> question : how do I render a space in a filename for a directory containing a space in it.
[23:50] <Bert_2> ikonia: when I backup a partition (I copy it to another disc) it keeps the same UUID, so mount is all fucked up and confused afterwards and some guys told me "just change the UUID of the copy), but I can't find how
[23:50] <ikonia> Bert_2: that language is uncalled for
[23:50] <mlLK> koshari, so the host takes care of everything?
[23:51] <mlLK> koshari, as far as hardware
[23:51] <Bert_2> ikonia: huh ?
[23:51] <ikonia> elexodus_: try commenting out options
[23:51] <debian_akroyd> omfg rofl
[23:51] <ixj> if i upgrade to 8.04 (lts) will i be able to upgrade to 8.10 later? or will i be stuck in only being able to easily upgrade to a new lts version?
[23:51] <koshari> mlLK in most VM software you set up the host, install the guest then in the guest environment setup the drivers
[23:51] <Blaqlight> im trying to call a directory that has a space in it, how do I do this without changing the directory name.
[23:51] <ikonia> Bert_2: bad language is not welcome in this channel, if you can't explain a problem without using it - don't speak
[23:51] <eie> what is the best player to install for firefox in ubuntu Adobe Flash Player, Swfdec player for adobe/macromedia or Gnash SWF PLayer?
[23:52] <linch7> Q: does someone know how to change to vi-mode in bash?
[23:52] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: quoting the dir name doesn't cut it ?
[23:52] <smokewon> Hey there, ive got composite rendering enabled in my xorg.conf, and it works well with compiz fusion, but java applets flicker in firefox when i have the composite option enabled, is there some way to fix this?
[23:52] <Scunizi> eie: I use the adobe one and works fine.
[23:52] <Bert_2> ikonia: ow sorry, did that excidentialy, excuse me
[23:52] <ikonia> elexodus_: I can't see anything obvious wong with that file
[23:52] <ikonia> Bert_2: sure, no problem
[23:52] <ikonia> Bert_2: how are you backing up the partition ?
[23:52] <koshari> Bert_2 are you copying it back to the exext location?
[23:52] <debian_akroyd> eie, definately not swfdec..i would choose gnash
[23:53] <Bert_2> ikonia koshari: I use gparted, to just copy the partition from one disc to another
[23:53] <mlLK> koshari, what about laptops
[23:53] <ikonia> Bert_2: how do you copy the partition
[23:53] <Blaqlight> this program is looking for a background in a folder named "widescreen pics" it can't find it because of the space.
[23:53] <dustrial> mlLK:  the guests driver should be compatible with the hardware the virtual machine program " provides"
[23:53] <ikonia> Bert_2: if your making a partition with gparted it shouldn't have the same uuid
[23:53] <mlLK> koshari, windows is running naked w/o its hp drivers
[23:53] <koshari> Bert_2 you will prolly fint the uuid issue has more to do with the grub/fstab entry
[23:53] <eie> thanks
[23:53] <ugly_one> I have very strange problem: in random period of time (from 5 to 20 seconds) system totally freezes. When I move my mouse or typa something on keyboard everything start to working till the next freez. Any solution?
[23:54] <Bert_2> ikonia koshari: if you copy a partition with gparted it leaves the UUID intact for as far as I know
[23:54] <Mr_Bad_News> make: *** [.build-boxnet-i486-linux-gnu-4.1.3/CMakeCache.txt] Error 255
[23:54] <Greyscale> !webcams
[23:54] <ikonia> Bert_2: how are you copying a partition with gpared ?
[23:54] <ikonia> gparted ?
[23:54] <rolle> I have closed my FF3, yet this is still showing up when trying to open FF3 Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[23:54] <koshari> mlLK you dont need to worry about the HP drivers, you need to install the host drivers, remeber the guest OS boesnt know what hardware its running in, it only sees the host environment and therefore things the host (or virtual machine) is real hardware and therefore needs the host drivers
[23:55] <Bert_2> ikonia: just click on the partition, RM -> copy and then paste onto free space on another disc
[23:55] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: tried "\" before the space yet ?
[23:55] <elexodus__> ikonia: HEre's the backup of the original proftpd.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1084674
[23:55] <elexodus__> ikonia, sorry, my router just needed to be reset real quick.
[23:55] <elexodus__> ikonia, did you get the pastebin?
[23:55] <zerogate> i am trying to build something which needs "gio-2.0" - do you know what i have to install to get this pkg?
[23:56] <koshari> Bert_2 you should use partimage to copy a partition,
[23:56] <ZStar> How do I connect my computer to the wireless router?  I just formatted and installed ubuntu
[23:56] <ikonia> Bert_2: thats an interesting approach
[23:56] <ikonia> elexodus__: I got the paste - I couldn't see anything wrong with it
[23:56] <debian_akroyd> well i gtg, cya all later
[23:56] <ikonia> elexodus__: try making one change at a time from the default
[23:56] <Bert_2> ikonia: it's the easiest approach
[23:56] <mlLK> koshari, i see; it's like a bloated app
[23:56] <elexodus__> ikonia, did it. also mixed the 2 together. nothing
[23:57] <koshari>  mlLK more like an application layer
[23:57] <ikonia> Bert_2: yes, I can see thats quite straight forward, I don't see how the uuid can be the same though, I'd need to do more research, I've never done that approach
[23:57] <Blaqlight> glitsj16: no is that how you call a space in a directory? I mean I can put _ in the directory if I have to but Id rather not.
[23:57] <rolle> ZStar: right click on the network connection.  Make sure it says connect to wireless.  Or you can get wifi-radar--that prog works well for me
[23:57] <ikonia> elexodus__: have you started it with the default file ?
[23:57] <koshari>  mlLK parts of the layer will only be using resources wen called
[23:57] <elexodus__> ikonia, I have the port forwarded, the static IP... I just don't know. Let me try that.\
[23:57] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: yes, widescreen\ pics should work
[23:57] <mlLK> koshari, what as far as my memory?
[23:57] <ikonia> elexodus__: portforwarding and static IP's is nothing to do with a config file not being correct, they are all done outside of proftpd
[23:57] <Mr_Bad_News> what do i do if i upgrade linux generic 2.14.2 whatever to 15 and it doesnt boot?
[23:57] <Bert_2> ikonia: well, it has been some time since I experienced it, so I'm going to check it myself too, I hope it has been fixed, but it was a real issue in the dapper times and some guy claimed it was still an issue
[23:57] <Mr_Bad_News> that happend to me twice now
[23:58] <koshari> mlLK the VM will reserve a portion of memory determined by you for the VM client to use
[23:58] <Bert_2> ikonia: I'm now copying a FAT32 filesystem and it keeps the UUID in place
[23:58] <ikonia> Bert_2: I find that most odd
[23:59] <ZStar> it would be a hassle to connect the computer to the router through a cable
[23:59] <koshari> Bert_2 the uuid is a virtual disc serial number nothing more
[23:59] <Blaqlight> glitsj16: yeah that worked thanks. Ive never had to do that before.. strange eh?
[23:59] <clayg> if i want to copy my home directory to my ipod, can i just drag the folder over to it or do i need to issue some special command to  make sure no hiddens are left behind?