[00:54] <szkodnik> hi is anyone here?
[00:56] <wols> no
[00:58] <szkodnik> I've got a little problem. I've just installed xubuntu, and there is very noisy system beep. I'be found this: ﻿http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=859176 but here, in this desktop (slim-desktop dhell) the beep is coming out nopt from thr pc-spealer module, but from normal, integrated speaker. How can i disactivate this beep?
[01:00] <szkodnik> sorry for the spelling, i haven't been using the desktop for few month, and have some problems with keyboard;) )
[01:01] <wols> 02:01 <dpkg> rumour has it, bell is "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console .  For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode.  "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions.  See also <shell beep>.  or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc, or in konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell
[01:02] <szkodnik> ypu know I'm  blonde..
[01:04] <szkodnik> you*
[05:35] <whileimhere> I have been playing with my panels and stuff and was wondering is there an easy way to restore the desktop to its defaults?
[05:36] <whileimhere> :-D Anyone?
[09:09] <preben_> hi! How do I turn off that f-spot is opened when I connect a camera. I got a dialog and misunderstood it so now it opens f-spot which I don't use every time I connect camera. I would like to change it to ignore
[09:09] <preben_> I have set a custom command I want to run, but f-spot gets run too
[09:10] <cwillu> preben_, (you didn't find anything under photos in nautilus, right?)
[09:21] <preben_> cwillu: yes, but didn\t work
[09:21] <preben_> another question. Is it possible to get xfce4-terminal not to run in background in a script? I want the script to wait until the xfce4-terminal is closed to continue
[09:21] <preben_> works like this with xterm
[11:04] <Nix3r>  i got struck by a virus while runing windows. and all my video / audio files were deleted. then i re partitioned all drives. any good utility to recover my data, i havnt formated them yet.i heard there are softwares that can recover from formated partitions too..?
[11:50] <D4vid> hello i have som problems with my xubuntu
[11:51] <D4vid> after i login nothing happens
[11:51] <D4vid> it shows the cursor and a blue background but nothing else
[11:51] <D4vid> someone know what might be the problem?
[11:52] <TheSheep> D4vid: there was a bug that made it lock up randomly like that sometimes
[11:53] <TheSheep> D4vid: try pressing alt+ctrl+backspace and logging in again
[11:53] <TheSheep> D4vid: it's fixed in updates
[11:53] <D4vid> ok i will try that
[11:55] <D4vid> TheSheep, hmm it doesnt seem to wotk
[11:55] <D4vid> work*
[11:55] <D4vid> it locks up every time
[11:56] <TheSheep> D4vid: you can switch to text console with alt+ctrl+f1, log in, do updates, then switch back with alt+ctrl+f7
[12:00] <D4vid> ok i will try that
[12:06] <D4vid> TheSheep, seems like i cant run apt-get update since im not connected to the internet, im connection wirelessy, is there a way to connect to a wireless network in the console?
[12:13] <TheSheep> D4vid: yes
[12:13] <TheSheep> !wifi
[12:13] <TheSheep> D4vid: there should be some howto there
[12:15] <TheSheep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo#Using%20the%20command%20Line
[12:18] <TheSheep> D4vid: you can also just do 'ps x', look for the dbus daemon and kill it with 'kill PID', where PID is the number displayed next to the process name
[12:19] <TheSheep> D4vid: it shuld unblock the graphical login
[12:25] <D4vid> TheSheep, ok i have kind of a stupid problem there
[12:25] <D4vid> how do scroll up?
[12:25] <TheSheep> D4vid: shift+page up
[12:26] <TheSheep> D4vid: or you can add '| less' at the end of your comamnd to make it open in a nicely scrollable and searchable viewer
[12:31] <D4vid> TheSheep, ok thankyou, i restarted it now and it works
[13:02] <Chaosguard> Hello - i just installed xubuntu hardy heron on my laptop and i dont get an osd volume display when i change the volume with the hotkeys of my laptops - what might cause this. I couldn't guess any useful search keywords to find support in the forums
[13:02] <TheSheep> Chaosguard: xubuntu doesn't have an osd for that
[13:02] <TheSheep> Chaosguard: you can add volume control to your panel
[13:03] <Chaosguard> hmm do i need gnome pannel addons?
[13:03] <Chaosguard> yeah i have that ofc
[13:03] <Chaosguard> there is a bug whilst adding it manually
[13:03] <Chaosguard> but drag and drop with tha panel works fine
[13:03] <Chaosguard> the...
[13:04] <TheSheep> yes, I remember there were some problems with it
[13:04] <Chaosguard> the bug is known as far as i could read
[13:04] <TheSheep> I suppose you could use the gnome's volume control
[13:04] <TheSheep> although I'm not sure which part of it is responsible for the osd
[13:04] <Chaosguard> i saw it on a xubuntu install at a college
[13:05] <Chaosguard> but as of the philosophy of xfce it sounds logical that there is no such feature ;)
[13:05] <Chaosguard> hmm ok TheSheep thanks for your help - i will ask him on monday how he got this workin
[13:06] <TheSheep> not necessarily, it doesn't have to be expensive, you know
[13:06] <TheSheep> it just so happened that nobody implemented it :)
[13:06] <Chaosguard> thats another possible reason ;D
[13:23] <PsynoKhi0> Hey, is there a list over the packages that ship with xubuntu's ISO, like the one for ubuntu (categorized packages and whatnot)?
[13:26] <PsynoKhi0> I've done dpkg -l however that gives me an alphabetical list, I'd prefer to know what belongs where
[13:27] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: you would have to look for all dependencies of the xubuntu-desktop package, I think
[13:29] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: I'm primarily interested in the sound subsystem
[13:30] <PsynoKhi0> especially in what changed in it since Guts
[13:30] <PsynoKhi0> Gutsy* heh
[13:30]  * TheSheep has no idea
[13:31] <PsynoKhi0> are you running Hardy yourself?
[13:31] <TheSheep> yes
[13:32] <PsynoKhi0> have you installed PulseAudio?
[13:32] <TheSheep> no
[13:32] <TheSheep> I have bad experiences with pa
[13:33] <TheSheep> especially when I use MPD which works from another user
[13:33] <TheSheep> I use dmix instead
[13:33] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[13:47] <PsynoKhi0> crash testing the puter, brb
[14:21] <PsynoKhi0> hi again... so trying to remove esound-common would pretty take away everything that plays sound in a way or another (why the heck doesn't ALSA suffice anyway?), and pulseaudio gets mixed reviews... what other alternatives do I have?
[14:34] <PsynoKhi0> any gutsy user here? if so could you please put the content of your /etc/podprobe.d/alsa-base file in the pastebin? thanks
[14:35] <PsynoKhi0> oy... modprobe.d*
[14:41] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: esound-common is for providign support for esd in your app
[14:42] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: so any app that *can* work with esd needs it
[14:44] <PsynoKhi0> Obviously... though I still find it ridiculous that something that CAN use it CANNOT just say "oh what the hell I'll just do without"... guess I'll still have to deal with that fact heh
[15:32] <PsynoKhi0> k crash test again, anyone wanna place bets on, how fast it'll lock up?
[16:08] <wols_> !dmix
[16:12] <whileimhere> I have been playing with the MENU EDITOR on XFCE and I cannot seem to find out what adds a menu and what doesnt. For example how on earth would I know to put an include with the word system on it. Is there a page out ther with the commands it uses?
[16:17] <bassboi> !Players
[16:18] <bassboi> i like banshee
[16:19] <Aliksy> hello everybody.  Having an issue that's probably painfully easy on xubuntu.  My dad is trying to listen to some internet radio thing. When he clicks 'play' in firefox, it says it downloads a play.pls file.. I imagine if I opened that in vlc it would connect to the radio? but I can't find the file 'cause it doesn't appear to be on the desktop.  And doing "open containing folder" asks me to choose an application.  And, being a newb and all, I don't know h
[16:22] <Aliksy> ... bueller?
[16:26] <TheSheep> Aliksy: you could right-click on the link and select 'save as'
[16:26] <TheSheep> Aliksy: a .pls file is normal text file containing the real address of the radio
[16:26] <Aliksy> If I could find the file I could open it in mousepad, right?
[16:27] <Aliksy> the link to download the playlist appears to be some sort of javascript thinger
[16:27] <TheSheep> yes, but vlc or mplayer wil lalso open them, read the ddress from them and use that
[16:27] <TheSheep> Aliksy: you can also set /usr/bin/thunar as the default application for opening directories in firefox
[16:27] <TheSheep> Aliksy: I wonder why it's not configured by default
[16:30] <Aliksy> Aha.  They all went into \tmp\
[16:33] <Aliksy> What the.. /now/ when I hit 'open' from the downloads menu it opens it in vlc.  It wasn't doing that before.
[16:35] <Aliksy> Well, I guess that's a problem solved.  Thanks
[16:36] <Aliksy> Is there a way to remove an application from the "Choose an application to open this file.." window?
[16:38] <TheSheep> Aliksy: yes, they are saved in .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications
[16:40] <Aliksy> Ok.  Now that the internet-radio is working, my dad's gone back to using the computer, so I'll mess with that later.
[16:40] <Aliksy> He thinks I'm so smart, figuring things out.  "I went on irc and asked someone.." apparently makes me look smarter to him.
[16:41] <TheSheep> it is :)
[17:05] <Sydero> Does anyone know how to improve the fonts in xfce?
[17:05] <Sydero> it looks kind of ugly compared to kde :(
[17:05] <Sydero> font wise
[17:05] <TheSheep> Sydero: sure, there is a font editor called fontforge, the guys from dejavu project accept all improvements
[17:06] <Sydero> well the fonts don't look right at all :/
[17:06] <Sydero> and I'm using tahoma as my system font
[17:06] <TheSheep> Sydero: that's why
[17:07] <Sydero> What should I do?
[17:07] <Sydero> I'd like the fonts to more emulate windows
[17:08] <TheSheep> Sydero: Tahoma is MIcrosoft's font, and they use various technologies in it that they patented, so they cannot be used outside of Windows.
[17:08] <Sydero> What system font would you recommend?
[17:08] <TheSheep> DejaVu Sans is nice, I like the condensed version as the system font best
[17:09] <TheSheep> Terminus is nice for terminal
[17:11] <Sydero> hmmm
[17:11] <Sydero> I wonder if running at 96 dpi is also contributing to the problem
[17:12] <TheSheep> make sure to enable hinting
[17:12] <Sydero> yeah I have full on
[17:12] <TheSheep> ad use the proper subpixel hinting for your monitor
[17:13] <TheSheep> dpi can break hinting, but 96 is Windows' default, so it should work fine with Tahoma I guess
[17:17] <Sydero> Do any of you guys run snort on a home computer?
[17:18] <Sydero> if you're not even using it as a server on the net
[17:21] <Sydero> hmmmm verdana doesn't look too bad
[19:00] <lc2> has anyone had sound stop working on them since one of the recent updates? :\
[19:00]  * lc2 has no sound, is panicking.
[19:04] <bassboi> i've been seeing a lot of people with sound issues
[19:04] <bassboi> :|
[19:04] <bassboi> i get wonky video trying to use 8.04 on my other PC
[19:04] <lc2> :\
[19:04] <bassboi> i use 7.10 mythbuntu, it works
[19:05] <lc2> it was working fine until i did an update today (which i had been putting off for too long, but whatever)
[19:05] <lc2> post-reboot, sound stopped working, in all programs
[19:05] <bassboi> check your sound card settings
[19:05] <bassboi> make sure digital out is off
[19:05] <bassboi> i had that issue with my audigy
[19:06] <bassboi> if you're not using digital that is
[19:06]  * lc2 doesn't have a digital out setting.
[19:06] <bassboi> hm odd
[19:06] <bassboi> i have sound, but no mixer controls.. so i can't help much
[19:07] <bassboi> odd, yes
[19:07] <lc2> oh this is more interesting
[19:07] <lc2> i wonder if it's detected my onboard soundcard rather than my other one, for some reason
[19:08] <lc2> *plugs it into the onboard one*
[19:08] <bassboi> lol that happened to me too, believe it or not
[19:08] <bassboi> i rebooted, one quit working and the other started
[19:09] <lc2> i just checked, it wasn't that
[19:09] <lc2> the odd thing, is that after the update, my mixer looked totally different, like there were controls there that didn't exist before, etc :\
[19:09] <lc2> and some which had disappeared altogether
[19:11] <bassboi> odd
[19:11] <bassboi> most of the time i play with settings, and usually it works most of the time
[19:11] <bassboi> mute and unmute devices, move sliders
[19:12] <lc2> hmm
[19:17] <lc2> okayyy
[19:17] <lc2> so it turned out i had a whole load of non-existent devices listed in audacious' preference
[19:18] <lc2> +s
[19:20]  * lc2 has sound again!
[19:21] <lc2> and two soundcards listed in the alsa plugin's settings that don't exist
[19:23] <lc2> sound in everything else isn't working
[19:24] <lc2> but that's okay
[19:29] <spasticteapot> Hello!
[19:29] <spasticteapot> I have a bit of a problem.
[19:29] <spasticteapot> My laptop takes forever to get a network address from an ethernet connection, and when it does, it still won';t let me connect to the internet.
[19:29] <spasticteapot> (I'm connecting a thinkpad X61 to a cable modem.)
[19:30] <Sydero> disable iptables?
[19:31] <Sydero> Have you actually configured it
[19:31] <Sydero> during setup
[19:31] <spasticteapot> iptables?
[19:31] <spasticteapot> sydero: I set it to both "roaming mode" and DHCP - neither worked.
[19:32] <Sydero> what does it say in ifconfig?
[19:33] <spasticteapot> ...I should've checked.
[19:33] <spasticteapot> I have a bit of a problem: To pick up a wifi signal (and use Xchat) I need to exit the house.
[19:34] <spasticteapot> The modem in question is INSIDE the house.
[19:34] <Sydero> :D
[19:34] <spasticteapot> What should it say?
[19:34] <Sydero> maybe you need to set priority or something
[19:34] <Sydero> not sure
[19:35] <Sydero> like use eth0 now instead of eth1
[19:35] <Sydero> hmmm
[19:35] <spasticteapot> Priority?
[19:36] <Sydero> nvm
[19:36] <Sydero> do you have nm-applet open?
[19:37] <bassboi> crack kills
[19:38] <Sydero> good to know
[19:38] <spasticteapot> ???
[19:38] <spasticteapot> Am I still connected?
[19:38] <Sydero> Do you have nm-applet open?
[19:38] <Sydero> meh
[19:41] <Sydero> OMG xubuntu is SO much better with hinting disabled :D
[19:41] <Sydero> kind of ironic in a way
[19:45] <Sydero> Is bytecode interpreter enabled by default?
[19:58] <TheSheep> Sydero: bytecode interpreter of what?
[20:00] <Sydero> TheSheep: for fonts
[20:00] <Sydero> I think it's an alternative form of hinting
[20:00] <Sydero> that works better with ms fonts
[20:02] <TheSheep> Sydero: ms has his font hinting and kernng technologies patented, you won't see them anywhere outside windows
[20:03] <Sydero> I know
[20:03] <Sydero> but apparently bytecode interpreter does a better job than the default
[20:14] <bassboi> what if i have turretts ?
[20:16] <akaaka> hello.. what would be the system - preferences - sessions.. for xubuntu?
[20:16] <ere4si> xfce akaaka
[20:16] <akaaka> yeah
[20:16] <akaaka> xfce not gnome
[20:16] <akaaka> but i was use to gnome
[20:16] <Sydero> sessions?
[20:16] <akaaka> yeah
[20:17] <akaaka> i need to go to startup programs
[20:17] <Sydero> autostart
[20:17] <Sydero> autostarted apps
[20:18] <akaaka> where is that
[20:21] <bassboi> settings manager, top left
[20:24] <akaaka> wowl
[20:24] <akaaka> compared to ubuntu there very lil startup programs
[20:25] <akaaka> i just had to take out the printer one
[20:25] <akaaka> but there are not useless startups as evolution alarm notifer or cheeck for new hardware drivers
[20:25] <akaaka> or the bluetooth one
[20:26] <akaaka> xfce rules
[20:31] <x14q0246z5> hi all ... random question.  i have xubuntu installed on a laptop, i had a few ssh sessions open with another local box & forgot about them when i suspended my laptop.  to my surprise the sessions were resumed with no problem (same session, could resume background procs).  my question is - how is that done :-)
[20:33] <Myrtti> hmm, about the same way as in Windows ;-)
[20:35] <Sydero> magic x14q0246z5
[20:35] <Sydero> magic
[20:35] <x14q0246z5> that's why i ask... in windows i lose my sessions ;-)  currently using putty there... haven;t really tried other ssh clients - which one you using ?
[20:35] <Sydero> well it would have to reinitiate them
[20:36] <Sydero> or it doesn't send a termination signal
[20:36] <TheSheep> x14q0246z5: it all depends on how long it was suspended and whether anything was sent during that time
[20:37] <TheSheep> x14q0246z5: this trick only works for short time spans
[20:38] <x14q0246z5> to be honest... I had assumed it wasn't an option to keep them with the network connection being dropped.  so could very possibly have config options i haven;t been looking into.  and yes... this was a quick suspend/resume. (and sorry about the user name... been a while since i've been on irc & my first couple trys were allready taken ;-) )
[20:41] <x14q0246z5> thanks for the info all... i'll see if I have similar luck in windows.  not required behaviour... but certainly nice to have.
[20:51] <akaaka_>  hello can someone help me, i need to check what level number its my vm.swappiness what command do i need to type
[21:10] <zOap> hi I´m using compiz as my window manager in xubuntu 8.04. but it doesnt load before after xfcewm is loaded. which makes all windows make weird before it goes normal. is there any way to load compiz from login? as the defualt wm for xfce?
[21:13] <akaaka_> hello... if i have a solid state drive and 512 of ram.. which swappiness level you recommend?
[21:13] <akaaka_> more swap or less
[21:14] <Sydero> more than 512
[21:14] <Sydero> well
[21:14] <Sydero> depends
[21:14] <Sydero> on what you run
[21:15] <akaaka_> just basic applications
[21:16] <akaaka_> and i dont have a swap partition
[22:25] <Jorophose> Is xubuntu getting more and more bloated, or is it just Xfce gaining this weight? From what I hear requirements have ballooned from ~128MB of RAM ideal to 256MB+... Currently I've got a celeron 500MHz with 192MB of RAM and from what I understand hardy will run much slower than dapper did. Anyone feel like commenting on that? =/
[22:30] <nikolam> hi i have interesting problem
[22:31] <nikolam> My monitor on my desktop machine just died dhis evening
[22:31] <nikolam> I am writing this from asus eee connected to home machine with dead monicor, that is conected to internet
[22:32] <D4vid> do you think its xubuntu related?
[22:32] <nikolam> I have xubuntu on desktop :*)
[22:32] <D4vid> it sounds like something hardwarerelated
[22:32] <nikolam> so How do i regain control on desktop xubuntu
[22:32] <nikolam> with no monitor attached?
[22:33] <D4vid> that might be hard
[22:33] <D4vid> do you have any warranty left?
[22:33] <nikolam> Machine is working, with no monitor, firestarter firewall is active and I am on local network of it
[22:33] <nikolam> I am not thinking about monitor right now
[22:34] <nikolam> I am thinkimghow do I regain control over desktop machine running Xubuntu
[22:34] <nikolam> So that I can copy some files from it fortommorow`s work
[22:35] <nikolam> No samba, nfs is started but never used etc
[22:35] <nikolam> So what shoud I do wihout obviously replacing monitor
[22:35] <D4vid> enter the text console on it and then copy files to an external drive maybe?
[22:36] <nikolam> text console is on the monitor. Monitor is dead
[22:36] <D4vid> yeah but you can still write stuff right
[22:36] <nikolam> I have working network connection to it
[22:36] <D4vid> i dont know what else you can do without a monitor
[22:37] <nikolam> hmm.. yes, BUT i don`t think that ctrl
[22:37] <nikolam> ctrl+alt+f1 works on xubuntu
[22:37] <D4vid> yeah
[22:37] <nikolam> If I just started sshd ...
[22:38] <nikolam> Is there any way to boot from alternate cd .. does alternate cd enables serial console connection on boot?
[22:39] <nikolam> .. or something
[23:55] <bassboi> hey how i take a screen shot
[23:55] <bassboi> prt scr dont work
[23:57] <D4vid> you can add a screenshot utility to your toolbar