| asac | i am in canada ;) | 02:52 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | oh ... quite late ;) | 02:52 |
| [reed] | asac: #moz08 on irc.mozilla.org | 03:09 |
| * asac joins that channel ;) | 03:19 | |
| * asac goes looking for fooood | 03:29 | |
| asac | cu tomorrow | 03:30 |
| [reed] | same! | 03:41 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| === jetsaredim1 is now known as jetsaredim | ||
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| * gnomefreak going to bed its almost 1:00am | 05:46 | |
| XioNoX | hi! | 09:33 |
| gnomefreak | bug 201655 | 11:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 201655 in mozilla-thunderbird "send email with attachement from openoffice through thunderbird fails: "unable to open the temporary file"" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201655 | 11:08 |
| gnomefreak | bug 240093 | 11:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 240093 in mozilla-thunderbird "Get Mail only retrieves one message at a time" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/240093 | 11:08 |
| XioNoX | someone know when asac will be back ? | 11:19 |
| Jazzva | XioNoX, he's in Canada atm... | 11:20 |
| gnomefreak | he should be there | 11:20 |
| Jazzva | So, at some appropriate time, but in some other timezone (most probably UTC-4) | 11:20 |
| gnomefreak | yep | 11:21 |
| gnomefreak | if toronto area | 11:21 |
| gnomefreak | who speaks german beside him? | 11:21 |
| XioNoX | Jazzva, ok thx, for the Mozilla Summit I think | 11:21 |
| gnomefreak | XioNoX: yep that would be where he is until thursday IIRC | 11:22 |
| XioNoX | ok | 11:22 |
| Jazzva | XioNoX, no problem :). | 11:22 |
| gnomefreak | what OO.o application would i find the following? OpenOffice.org 2.4 -> Extras -> Options -> Internet -> E-Mail | 11:25 |
| gnomefreak | i cant seem to get it from word nor from oo.o menu in applications > office | 11:25 |
| === jt1 is now known as jtv | ||
| asac_the_2nd | too bad | 15:36 |
| asac_the_2nd | when did my nick disappear? | 15:36 |
| XioNoX | hey | 15:36 |
| Volans | Hi asac_the_2nd how are you after meny hours of fly? | 15:36 |
| Volans | I don't know | 15:36 |
| asac_the_2nd | i slept for 12 hours now ;) | 15:36 |
| asac_the_2nd | so feeling better | 15:37 |
| asac_the_2nd | btw, its UTC-8 here or something like that | 15:39 |
| asac_the_2nd | current time is 7:39 in the morning :-D | 15:39 |
| Volans | where are you, california? | 15:39 |
| asac_the_2nd | vancouver | 15:39 |
| gnomefreak | thats the time zone hes in | 15:39 |
| asac_the_2nd | (whistler to be exact) | 15:39 |
| * gnomefreak finally a higher time zone than asac ;) | 15:40 | |
| gnomefreak | well have fun ive been here since like 4ish and im getting tired | 15:40 |
| asac_the_2nd | sure | 15:40 |
| asac_the_2nd | if anyone has a backlog and can see when my main nick went offline I would appreciate any info ;( | 15:41 |
| Volans | asac_the_2nd: maybe ubuntulog ? | 15:45 |
| asac_the_2nd | isnt that far | 15:45 |
| Volans | have tried with the last seen irc command' | 15:46 |
| Volans | ? | 15:46 |
| armin76 | asac_the_2nd: 07:48 GMT | 15:46 |
| armin76 | * asac has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | 15:46 |
| armin76 | @seen asac | 15:46 |
| armin76 | !seen asac | 15:46 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about seen asac | 15:46 |
| armin76 | lol | 15:46 |
| armin76 | asac_the_2nd: why wasn't i invited?! :( | 15:47 |
| armin76 | -NickServ- Last addr : n=asac@debian/developer/asac | 15:48 |
| armin76 | -NickServ- Last seen : Jul 28 07:48:45 2008 (6 hours, 59 minutes, 48 seconds ago) | 15:48 |
| asac_the_2nd | just amazing | 15:52 |
| asac_the_2nd | whenever i leave my system goes down :( | 15:53 |
| asac_the_2nd | i cannot even call my telephone at home anymore | 15:53 |
| Volans | Murphy's Law ;) | 15:53 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah. still a pain in the ass | 15:57 |
| asac_the_2nd | even if this pain has a name | 15:57 |
| asac_the_2nd | XioNoX, so how are things going? | 15:59 |
| XioNoX | trying to make a rich list box | 16:00 |
| asac_the_2nd | but the query works now? | 16:00 |
| XioNoX | see here | 16:00 |
| XioNoX | http://xionox.info/testmoz/test4.xul | 16:00 |
| XioNoX | with templates only | 16:00 |
| XioNoX | but I'm going very slowly | 16:01 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah. templates can be painful | 16:01 |
| XioNoX | for exemple, here, if I add another triple, nothing works... | 16:01 |
| asac_the_2nd | XioNoX, i gave you the example on friday how to get plugin details | 16:02 |
| asac_the_2nd | why dong you use that as a base? | 16:02 |
| XioNoX | i've lost the file | 16:02 |
| XioNoX | :D | 16:02 |
| asac_the_2nd | thats not my problem then | 16:02 |
| asac_the_2nd | i cannot log in at home ;( | 16:03 |
| asac_the_2nd | XioNoX, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | 16:03 |
| asac_the_2nd | i think i pasted it ... so maybe you can find it there | 16:03 |
| XioNoX | nice, i didn't know this page | 16:04 |
| XioNoX | it is what i try to do, create a richlistbox and add the content of the .rdf inside | 16:05 |
| asac_the_2nd | yeah | 16:06 |
| asac_the_2nd | find that snippet | 16:06 |
| asac_the_2nd | XioNoX, http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/pfs_xionox/test3.xul | 16:07 |
| XioNoX | ok, thx, it is what i was looking for | 16:08 |
| asac_the_2nd | hmm ... my provider says that there is major bustage in my home city ... internet-wise | 16:15 |
| asac_the_2nd | lets hope my system will auto recover once that is fixed :/ | 16:15 |
| * asac_the_2nd goes out looking for breakfast | 16:15 | |
| armin76 | asac_the_2nd: why wasn't i invited? :D | 16:31 |
| XioNoX | asac_the_2nd, it was long but i finally did it : http://xionox.info/testmoz/test3.xul | 16:50 |
| XioNoX | see you tomorrow | 17:12 |
| XioNoX | bye | 17:12 |
| asac_the_2nd | armin76, i wasnt ask about whom to invite ;) ... but i am on it this time | 18:28 |
| armin76 | bad asac | 18:32 |
| armin76 | asac_the_2nd: even if i fix a lot more stuff than you! | 18:33 |
| armin76 | asac_the_2nd: i have a backtrace of sparc sigbus during runtime(which occurs on gentoo and intrepid), want to see it? | 18:35 |
| asac_the_2nd | sure why not | 18:37 |
| armin76 | asac_the_2nd: http://pastebin.osuosl.org/10911 | 18:39 |
| asac_the_2nd | oh in url classifier | 18:41 |
| asac_the_2nd | interesting | 18:41 |
| armin76 | eh, wtf | 18:41 |
| armin76 | http://rafb.net/p/DLog8Q70.html | 18:41 |
| armin76 | asac_the_2nd: could be sqlite? | 18:42 |
| armin76 | because thats the main change between 3.0 and 3.0.1 | 18:42 |
| asac_the_2nd | armin76, err, we are using system sqlite in intrepid | 18:42 |
| armin76 | you are? :) | 18:43 |
| asac_the_2nd | yey | 18:43 |
| armin76 | !info sqlite intrepid | 18:43 |
| ubottu | sqlite (source: sqlite): command line interface for SQLite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.17-4build1 (intrepid), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB | 18:43 |
| armin76 | !info sqlite3 intrepid | 18:43 |
| ubottu | sqlite3 (source: sqlite3): A command line interface for SQLite 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.9-3 (intrepid), package size 19 kB, installed size 88 kB | 18:43 |
| armin76 | same problem | 18:43 |
| armin76 | i mean its 3.5.9 what is causing problems | 18:43 |
| asac_the_2nd | so is it unaligned mem? | 18:45 |
| armin76 | no idea, just guessing | 18:46 |
| armin76 | will try building and downgrading sqlite | 18:47 |
| asac_the_2nd | armin76, so in 3.0 it didnt crash? | 18:47 |
| armin76 | correct | 18:48 |
| asac_the_2nd | armin76, but when 3.0 in intrepid doesnt crash how can it be sqlite? | 18:50 |
| armin76 | hrm... | 18:52 |
| armin76 | asac_the_2nd: why are you so sure it didn't crash? | 18:52 |
| armin76 | we're talking about sparc, btw | 18:52 |
| asac_the_2nd | i nkow | 18:52 |
| asac_the_2nd | armin76, if you disable safebrowsing, does it work like a charm? or do you run in other sigbus'es | 18:53 |
| armin76 | disable safebrowsing in building or in the prefs? | 18:54 |
| asac_the_2nd | in prefs | 18:55 |
| armin76 | let me check | 18:55 |
| asac_the_bumber | i'm asac the bumber! | 18:59 |
| asac_the_bumber | bumb | 19:00 |
| asac_the_bumber | bumb | 19:00 |
| asac_the_bumber | bah | 19:00 |
| asac_the_bumber | hello | 19:00 |
| asac_the_bumber | hrm | 19:00 |
| Volans | hi :) | 19:01 |
| asac_the_bumber | double bumb! | 19:01 |
| asac_the_bumber | this translation thing doesn't seem to work fine | 19:01 |
| asac_the_bumber | asac_the_2nd: doesn't seem to crash with it disabled | 19:01 |
| asac_the_bumber | and it crashed before i disabled it | 19:01 |
| asac_the_bumber | $ firefox /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 12810 Bus error "$prog" ${1+"$@"} | 19:01 |
| asac_the_bumber | hola | 19:02 |
| asac_the_bumber | Hello | 19:02 |
| asac_the_bumber | bumb | 19:02 |
| asac_the_2nd | asac_the_bumber, hehe | 19:03 |
| asac_the_2nd | ok | 19:03 |
| asac_the_bumber | asac_the_2nd: let me try with intrepid | 19:03 |
| asac_the_2nd | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=319854 | 19:04 |
| asac_the_2nd | i doubt that thats it. it was before 3.0 | 19:04 |
| armin76 | asac_the_2nd: http://rafb.net/p/dK5VeJ48.html <- the diff between 3.0 and 3.0.1, except CVS and sqlite stuff | 19:06 |
| armin76 | asac_the_2nd: meet rbu , gentoo's nm maintainer | 19:06 |
| armin76 | rbu: meet asac_the_2nd, ubuntu's nm maintainer | 19:07 |
| armin76 | i think :P | 19:07 |
| rbu | hey all | 19:07 |
| === mib_7llpqx is now known as asac_the_intrepi | ||
| asac_the_intrepi | asac_the_2nd: slacker, looks like on intrepid it doesn't sigbus as well | 19:11 |
| asac_the_2nd | rbu, hi | 19:12 |
| asac_the_2nd | nice to meet you ;) | 19:13 |
| === asac_the_2nd is now known as asac | ||
| rbu | asac: oh my, how many of you are there? | 19:14 |
| rbu | asac: so, what's up? | 19:14 |
| armin76 | haha | 19:15 |
| asac | rbu, just wanted to know about your plans for NM 0.7 | 19:15 |
| armin76 | rbu: the others are me :P | 19:15 |
| rbu | asac: well, if you ask me to speak freely, i'm quite disappointed by NM's release policy | 19:16 |
| rbu | asac: i have no time to follow SVN status, and see which revision would qualify for what. and there's the KNM issue, it's still quite broken | 19:17 |
| asac | rbu, we have knetworkmanager in our ~network-manager PPA ... which appear to work well | 19:17 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive | 19:17 |
| rbu | asac: so for me this means that i'll only consider including NM 0.7 when (1) it has a proper release with a proper version number and (2) KNM can use it | 19:17 |
| rbu | PPA ? | 19:18 |
| rbu | oh, ok | 19:18 |
| asac | PPA == personal package archive | 19:19 |
| rbu | well, last time i compiled it (like 2 months ago?) it was broken. since then i have not seen any updates on the KNM mailing list, so i assumed it wa still broken :-) | 19:19 |
| rbu | asac: how is your experience with the 0.7 branch? and what are your intents? | 19:20 |
| rbu | am i the only one who thinks some people updating 0.7 SRPMS and not doing any releases is broken by design? | 19:21 |
| asac | rbu, thats true | 19:23 |
| asac | rbu, point is that upstream has really low resources (basically just 1 man show) | 19:23 |
| asac | rbu, i will upload NM 0.7 to intrepid any day soon as we need 3g support | 19:24 |
| asac | rbu, you could use our snapshots as i try to QA them and fix eventual issues before uploading them | 19:24 |
| armin76 | asac: so is the safebrowsing thing related someway to sqlite? | 19:26 |
| rbu | asac: well, low resources really is not an excuse. it's not hard to make a tarball, and put a name onto it. and the guys are maintaining the thing in | 19:27 |
| rbu | their distributions anyway, so they know which bugs are fixed and which combinations of source and patches work ok | 19:28 |
| asac | rbu, right. did you install fedora recently? | 19:28 |
| rbu | asac: nope. why are you asking? | 19:28 |
| rbu | i really only install either gentoo or debian these days | 19:28 |
| asac | i tested it and NM really sucks. so they are not really having better snapshots then we | 19:29 |
| asac | do | 19:29 |
| armin76 | lol | 19:29 |
| asac | armin76, did you try to downgrade to 3.0 in intrepid? | 19:29 |
| rbu | asac: how does the whole internationalization aspect look for 0.7? i know that you guys give a lot of emphasis to that | 19:29 |
| asac | rbu, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/network-manager/main.eni | 19:30 |
| rbu | asac: last time i checked fedora 9 did not even contain the KNM either.. were you able to test it on there? | 19:30 |
| asac | thats the branch i use to base our packages on. i regularly sync it with upstream, then stabilize things a bit | 19:30 |
| asac | i never push there until i release to PPA | 19:30 |
| asac | rbu, no ... didnt test knetworkmanger on fedora. i just saw it working on ubuntu from the PPA | 19:30 |
| asac | rbu, we dont look at internationalization right now. once nm 0.7 enters the archive our translators will start to fill the missing translations in | 19:31 |
| rbu | asac: ah, i see. | 19:31 |
| rbu | asac: so basically you would like to use that ~asac/network-manager/main.eni as a stable branch? | 19:32 |
| asac | however, the applet wil get a major rework. there will be a 3g wizard landing soon | 19:32 |
| asac | rbu, stabilized ... not really stable | 19:32 |
| rbu | asac: speaking of the applet. i was a little sad to see none of the ubuntu work you guys did merged back into the trunk | 19:33 |
| rbu | i saw that 0.6 applet once and it's so cool | 19:33 |
| asac | rbu, which parts are you referring to? | 19:33 |
| rbu | the manual network configuration | 19:33 |
| asac | rbu, oh. thats not network-manager | 19:33 |
| asac | thats gnome | 19:33 |
| asac | gnome network-admin | 19:33 |
| asac | we will drop it once 0.7 goes online | 19:34 |
| asac | its a real pain to maintain | 19:34 |
| rbu | asac: but that was somehow integrated into the nm-applet, no? | 19:34 |
| armin76 | asac: uh...wait a sec | 19:34 |
| asac | yes. its just a single menu entry | 19:34 |
| asac | but since its not really existing everywhere you couldnt really put it into main svn | 19:34 |
| asac | we also have major user confusion due to that feature | 19:34 |
| asac | once you confiugre your wireless there it will be blacklisted from NM ... which makes users wonder whats going on | 19:35 |
| armin76 | asac: user_pref("browser.safebrowsing.malware.enabled", false) <- i've removed this pref i added with safebrowsing.enabled, and now it sigbused | 19:35 |
| asac | armin76, ok. so it was always broken :/ | 19:35 |
| rbu | asac: so what are your plans with that bzr archive? you are quite close to trunk right now, and you want to stabilize it for the 8.10 release? | 19:36 |
| rbu | and after that, it would only get bugfixes? | 19:36 |
| asac | rbu, we will track upstream as long as possible during 8.10 development cycle | 19:37 |
| rbu | asac: but after that freeze | 19:37 |
| rbu | will you create a new branch and do the same for 9.04 again? | 19:37 |
| asac | when it becomes obvious that upstream wont make a final or beta 0.7 in time we will start to freeze | 19:37 |
| asac | rbu, most likely that branch will continue to be synched | 19:37 |
| armin76 | asac: how do i downgrade to 3.0 on intrepid? :P | 19:38 |
| asac | i will branch a stable branch for 8.10 when we freeze | 19:38 |
| rbu | ahh, ok | 19:38 |
| asac | s/most likely// | 19:38 |
| asac | armin76, let me see | 19:38 |
| asac | armin76, apt-get install firefox=3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 firefox-gnome-support=3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 firefox-3.0=3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 firefox-3.0-gnome-support=3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 xulrunner-1.9=1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support=1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 xulrunner-1.9-dev=1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 | 19:40 |
| asac | remove gnome-support bits if you dont have that | 19:40 |
| armin76 | yuck | 19:41 |
| rbu | asac: ok, here's the deal: i would like to see a working NM in gentoo testing rather sooner than later, but only if it does not contain huge feature regressions | 19:41 |
| rbu | asac: i'd be happy if we could join forces as far as stabling / testing on a branch go | 19:42 |
| rbu | there's only one problem: i don't have bzr installed :-P | 19:42 |
| asac | rbu, gentoo has bzr? | 19:43 |
| asac | or not at all? | 19:43 |
| rbu | asac: yeah, we have that thing | 19:43 |
| asac | would it a problem to emerge that? | 19:43 |
| asac | the command lines are really straight forward, so nothing really to learn for users that have used svn or cvs | 19:44 |
| rbu | no, it wouldn't. that statement was more like: "ubuntu are the only people using that thing.. so we can't cooperate" | 19:44 |
| asac | rbu, its now a main thing for savannah | 19:45 |
| rbu | asac: i think our infra team is more on the git side... but i guess it doesn't matter in the end | 19:45 |
| armin76 | E: Version '3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu2' for 'firefox-3.0' was not found | 19:45 |
| armin76 | same for firefox | 19:45 |
| asac | rbu, do you need auto synchs? | 19:45 |
| asac | sorry for my ignorance how gentoo maintains their packages | 19:46 |
| asac | armin76, too bad. you can grab the debs from launchpad directly | 19:46 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu2/+build/633450 | 19:46 |
| rbu | asac: not a problem.. i don't know details of your stuff either :-) | 19:46 |
| asac | or amd: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu2/+build/633448 | 19:47 |
| asac | rbu, if you just need tarballs exported i dont see that its a big problem | 19:47 |
| rbu | asac: i don't have a clear idea of what auto-sync would be... can you give me some more detail? | 19:47 |
| asac | auto-sync means that the sources you provide to users are automatically updated from upstream | 19:47 |
| asac | i doubt that you do that | 19:47 |
| asac | how do you release things? | 19:48 |
| asac | tarball? | 19:48 |
| asac | and packaging data in CVS? | 19:48 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu2/+build/633410 | 19:49 |
| asac | stupid me- | 19:49 |
| asac | you want sparc ;) | 19:49 |
| asac | my brains memory is really volatile | 19:49 |
| asac | ok sparc firefox: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu2/+build/633414 | 19:49 |
| asac | and xul: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu2/+build/633454 | 19:50 |
| asac | armin76, ^^ | 19:50 |
| asac | rbu, are you german? | 19:50 |
| armin76 | yup | 19:51 |
| armin76 | asac: yes, we can provide users the files directly from upstream if those are repos | 19:53 |
| armin76 | svn, cvs, git, i think bzr as well | 19:53 |
| asac | armin76, ugh. so you say: emerge NM0.7 and you would get the bzr branch we have + the packaging? | 19:53 |
| asac | or do you checkout by tag? | 19:53 |
| armin76 | you can checkout by tag, yes | 19:54 |
| asac | armin76, not bad. and the packaging? | 19:54 |
| rbu | sorry, i was in another shell for a moment | 19:54 |
| armin76 | or you could do an snapshot, obviously | 19:54 |
| asac | no prob | 19:54 |
| rbu | armin76: we CAN provide svn directly, but i would opt not to | 19:54 |
| armin76 | bumb! | 19:54 |
| asac | armin76, but for the "stable" rolling head you always use tarballs? | 19:54 |
| rbu | asac: so the way it would work is i make a tarball, and push that to users with a cvs commit to our tree | 19:55 |
| asac | rbu, right. thats simple | 19:55 |
| rbu | asac: live sources should always be "disabled" by default | 19:55 |
| * armin76 nods | 19:55 | |
| rbu | asac: yeah, i'm in berlin | 19:55 |
| asac | ok. so you provide a tarball and in addition provide arbitrary VCS references so users can use "live-sources" | 19:56 |
| asac | rbu, does the version need to be encoded in the tarball? | 19:56 |
| rbu | asac: it should be, yes | 19:56 |
| asac | how would a snapshot tarball be encoded, like: network-manager-0.7+svn7777.tar.gz? | 19:57 |
| armin76 | asac: and he's german | 19:57 |
| asac | rbu, it should or it has to be | 19:57 |
| asac | rbu, wilkommen ;) ... berliner ... ick bin ein hamburger ;) | 19:57 |
| rbu | asac: users installing their own current checkout of the snapshot is not something i support (as in: put energy into) | 19:57 |
| rbu | asac: should=QA says it must, but some people commit otherwise in disregard of policy. there's no technical means to enforce it | 19:58 |
| asac | rbu, ok. so its not a technical requirement to match the version (as we have in ubuntu=) | 19:58 |
| rbu | asac: nope. as for version names, it's rather a matter of taste, but networkmanager-0.7_p20080728.tar.gz is what i would like best :-P | 19:59 |
| armin76 | is 0.7 released? | 20:00 |
| rbu | _pre | 20:00 |
| rbu | instead of _p | 20:00 |
| armin76 | ah :) | 20:00 |
| armin76 | fail | 20:00 |
| rbu | armin76: nitpick | 20:00 |
| armin76 | :D | 20:00 |
| rbu | asac: juten tach na' hamburch! | 20:00 |
| armin76 | asac: 3.0 doesn't seem to sigbus with malware or safeb enabled | 20:00 |
| asac | rbu, hehe | 20:01 |
| asac | like we would talk that way there ;) | 20:01 |
| asac | bzr export --format=tgz --root=network-manager/ /tmp/network-manager-0.7-bzrshot.tar.gz https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/network-manager/main.eni/ | 20:01 |
| asac | if you want to export | 20:01 |
| asac | armin76, thats strange strange | 20:02 |
| asac | armin76, so does libxul.so link against system sqlite? can you check with ldd? | 20:02 |
| rbu | asac: i guess i'll just have a look at how bzr works, and how the code you have there looks.. and then i'll come back with comments and maybe additional wishes | 20:03 |
| armin76 | asac: oops, it sigbused | 20:03 |
| asac | rbu, right. let me know | 20:03 |
| rbu | asac: one thing though... what about the vpn plugins? | 20:03 |
| asac | rbu, i am this week in canada on mozilla summit. so sorry if not responsive from time to time | 20:03 |
| rbu | they are all in the bzr, do you package them? | 20:03 |
| asac | rbu, upstream fixed pptp and vpnc should work now | 20:03 |
| asac | we didnt do any packages, but thats the next i am doing | 20:03 |
| rbu | ok, cool | 20:04 |
| asac | i think i have to bump the bzr tree one more time | 20:04 |
| asac | to get all the latest pptp fixes | 20:04 |
| fta | Segmentation fault | 20:04 |
| asac | Sigbus | 20:04 |
| asac | fta, what segfaults for you now? you probably are not on sparc ;) | 20:05 |
| fta | the crash /w flash are back :( | 20:05 |
| fta | es | 20:05 |
| asac | fta, right. i have the fix in my ppa ;) | 20:05 |
| asac | we use nspluginwrapper everywere now | 20:05 |
| asac | so just install nspluginwrapper from my ppa and then --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree | 20:06 |
| asac | that should do the trick | 20:06 |
| fta | nspluginwrapper is sucking my cpu on my laptop/amd64 | 20:07 |
| asac | fta, that just means that flash is sucking it | 20:07 |
| asac | its just that npviewer is the process where flash goes mad | 20:07 |
| asac | fta, I'd suggest flashblock extensions | 20:08 |
| fta | no, open fresh ff (no session), visit a page with flash, close the tab, nspluginwrapper remains forever at ~50% cpu | 20:11 |
| armin76 | asac: 3.0 doesn't sigbus with safebrowsing.malware disabled | 20:22 |
| asac | fta, ok. thats the issue that causes crashes in non-nspluginwarpper case most likely | 20:23 |
| asac | libflashsupport deadlocks so the flash doesnt shut down | 20:24 |
| asac | even though the window was destructed | 20:24 |
| asac | ok ... i am going down to smoke a cigarette. bbiw | 20:25 |
| armin76 | asac: hrm...meh, not sure why it sigbuses...fyi disabling malware stuff is a workaround, but now i compiled 3.0 using system sqlite-3.5.6 and sigbused as well... | 20:35 |
| armin76 | i'm trying with included sqlite, we'll see | 20:35 |
| asac | armin76, i think its not sqlite, but the classifier code itself | 21:27 |
| asac | armin76, didnt we have sigbusses in reinterpret casts on sparc at some point? | 21:38 |
| asac | or was it compiler warning/errors? | 21:38 |
| * asac signing: "when will my system come back up again ... oh when, oh when, oh when" :( | 21:40 | |
| asac | s/signing/singing/ | 21:41 |
| asac | @time Berlin | 21:47 |
| ubottu | asac: Current time in Europe/Berlin: July 28 2008, 22:47:29 - Next meeting: Mentoring Reception in 2 days | 21:47 |
| armin76 | asac: the latter | 21:53 |
| armin76 | thats interesting.. | 21:54 |
| armin76 | 3.0 sigbuses as well no matter what i do | 21:55 |
| armin76 | well, it doesn't if i disable the safebrowsing stuff | 21:55 |
| asac | yeah. the code is just broken | 21:56 |
| armin76 | why? :) | 21:56 |
| asac | armin76, what address does str.BeginReading() point to? | 21:57 |
| armin76 | uh, and how should i know that? : | 21:57 |
| asac | armin76, go for debugger | 21:57 |
| asac | with -O0 -g | 21:57 |
| asac | ? | 21:57 |
| armin76 | okay, rebuilding | 21:58 |
| asac | armin76, damn i hate xchat ... just wiped this channels backlog :( | 21:59 |
| asac | anyway. start=9 | 21:59 |
| asac | that lookd unaligned | 21:59 |
| asac | so str.BeginReading() probably points to unaligned thing | 21:59 |
| asac | maybe you need to manually assemble the 32bit int there? | 22:00 |
| fta | fta@ix:~ $ firefox | 22:01 |
| fta | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave | 22:01 |
| fta | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave | 22:01 |
| fta | damn | 22:01 |
| asac | at least it uses alsa now | 22:01 |
| fta | but my whole system is supposed to use p-a | 22:01 |
| fta | so no sound in ff3 :( | 22:01 |
| asac | fta, flash is supposed to use alsa with pulse plugin | 22:01 |
| asac | most likely your alsa doest have pulse plugin properly setup | 22:02 |
| asac | flash 10 can do that now. so it should work :/ | 22:02 |
| fta | it used to work.. something changed in the last 3-4 weeks | 22:02 |
| asac | kernel? | 22:02 |
| asac | my sound is completely broken in 2.6.26 | 22:02 |
| asac | i only have sound when booting into 2.6.24 | 22:03 |
| crimsun | bug report? | 22:03 |
| fta | i just had to blacklist snd_pcsp | 22:03 |
| crimsun | luke is working on a pulseaudio patch for the snd-pcsp issue | 22:03 |
| asac | crimsun, if its not known ill file one once getting back home | 22:03 |
| asac | crimsun, that sounds like it | 22:04 |
| asac | sound works somewhat when directly going through alsa | 22:04 |
| asac | but not through pulse (only the beeper makes some noise) | 22:04 |
| crimsun | it's pretty trivial; just ignore the pc speaker as a sink/source when parsing hal info | 22:04 |
| asac | crimsun, would that make the behaviour like above (e.g. only beeps, but no speakers)? | 22:05 |
| crimsun | correct. | 22:05 |
| asac | good. then my issue is covered | 22:05 |
| asac | crimsun, do you know if we properly setup the pulse plugin for alsa now by default? | 22:05 |
| asac | (for flash 10) | 22:05 |
| fta | ff3 is fighting with mplayer for the sound :( | 22:05 |
| fta | bad | 22:05 |
| crimsun | asac: if luke or another core-dev hasn't merged my alsa-lib branch, then, no... | 22:07 |
| crimsun | meaning "no, I don't know, but if my branch hasn't been merged, then it is not properly configured" | 22:07 |
| asac | crimsun, where is that branch? | 22:07 |
| asac | i think that luke doesnt even know that there is an issue | 22:08 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~crimsun/alsa-lib/ubuntu.new ? | 22:08 |
| asac | crimsun, i assume that the ~ubuntu-core-dev branch is what is currently released, right? | 22:09 |
| asac | so its basically just pushing your branch to -core-dev and uploading? | 22:09 |
| asac | if thats the case ill take care for that | 22:10 |
| asac | btw, why is it called "ubuntu.new"? | 22:10 |
| crimsun | asac: that's my branch; I haven't inspected ~ubuntu-core-dev lately to check for additional necessary merges | 22:10 |
| asac | fta, can you try crimsun's alsa-lib branch? | 22:10 |
| asac | crimsun, i think rev 8 matches (at least from the commit log) | 22:11 |
| asac | so its just your revision 9 | 22:11 |
| crimsun | asac: it's called that due to /ubuntu being a "misbranch" | 22:11 |
| asac | he? | 22:11 |
| asac | fta, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~crimsun/alsa-lib/ubuntu.new | 22:11 |
| crimsun | I believe back when I created /ubuntu, I attempted to dump the entire source tree + /debian into it | 22:11 |
| asac | fta, i think that should fix it for you | 22:12 |
| crimsun | I'm not entirely clear if, during that branch creation, my connection died, and as a result, the branch was messed up | 22:12 |
| asac | crimsun, ok | 22:12 |
| asac | crimsun, you could do bzr push --overwrite | 22:13 |
| asac | anyway not really important ;) | 22:13 |
| crimsun | last I tried that, it failed horribly | 22:13 |
| asac | crimsun, ok. lets keep it that way then ;) | 22:14 |
| asac | crimsun, weren't you core-dev once? | 22:15 |
| crimsun | yes, I stepped down. | 22:15 |
| asac | ok | 22:16 |
| asac | "expired" according to +members | 22:16 |
| asac | @time sydney | 22:17 |
| ubottu | asac: Current time in Australia/Sydney: July 29 2008, 07:17:38 - Next meeting: Mentoring Reception in 2 days | 22:17 |
| asac | ok i ll talk to luke in an hour or so | 22:17 |
| fta | grr, why do i have to install libc6-dev-amd64 in order to build alsa-lib on i386 | 22:18 |
| crimsun | because it's multilib. | 22:18 |
| crimsun | think 32-bit | 22:18 |
| fta | yeah, i can see that | 22:18 |
| fta | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libc6-dev-amd64 gcc-multilib | 22:18 |
| asac | @time vancouver | 22:19 |
| ubottu | asac: Current time in America/Vancouver: July 28 2008, 14:19:14 - Next meeting: Mentoring Reception in 2 days | 22:19 |
| asac | armin76, so try to push the value to aligned mem before casting to int32? | 22:33 |
| * asac feels unknowning | 22:33 | |
| asac | armin76, you think you can do that? | 22:35 |
| asac | armin76, try http://paste.ubuntu.com/31475/ | 22:48 |
| asac | or fix eventual compiler issues | 22:48 |
| asac | fta, did the branch help? | 22:49 |
| asac | @time berlin | 22:49 |
| ubottu | asac: Current time in Europe/Berlin: July 28 2008, 23:49:36 - Next meeting: Mentoring Reception in 2 days | 22:49 |
| asac | armin76, if it works, let me know so we can include and upstream it. | 22:50 |
| * asac goes down to smoke more | 22:54 | |
| fta | asac, yep, better. | 22:59 |
| asac | fta, good crack ;) | 22:59 |
| asac | ill push that after checking back with themuso | 23:00 |
| armin76 | asac: k, ill try tomorrow, bed now | 23:22 |
| asac | armin76, bah, sleep is for the weak ;) | 23:23 |
| asac | sleep well | 23:23 |
| asac | armin76, maybe start the build now ;) | 23:23 |
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