| Jordan_U | I cannot modprobe ath_pci , is it removed now that there is ath5k ( which is not working for me ) | 00:47 |
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| Jordan_U | ? | 00:47 |
| RAOF | Hm. Kubuntu-Amarok FAIL. | 01:31 |
| RAOF | Wavpack is a perfectly fine codec, and apev2 is hardly an uncommon tag format. Kindly support them OOB. | 01:32 |
| DanaG | argh, hamachi doesn't work. | 02:26 |
| DanaG | What's with the useless little "monitor with triangular 'square' (drawing tool)" icon in my systray? | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | a bug | 06:28 |
| DanaG | Aah. What's the expected behavior? | 06:30 |
| Hobbsee | that it can be remoed. | 06:30 |
| DanaG | gnome-session-propertiesl | 06:31 |
| DanaG | eoh... | 06:32 |
| DanaG | part of gnome-settings-daemon now? | 06:32 |
| DanaG | Odd... now I see things like 'kicker' in the settings thingy. | 06:32 |
| RAOF | Hobbsee: Not only that it can be removed; that it defaults to off! | 06:34 |
| RAOF | I've just leant an interesting synonym for "monkey patching": "duck punching". | 06:35 |
| DanaG | huh? | 06:35 |
| DanaG | Oh, and it's not even usable with nvidia... thanks to lack of xrandr 1.2. | 06:35 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: that too | 06:36 |
| RAOF | DanaG: Correct. | 06:37 |
| RAOF | Man, it'd be awesome if nvidia's dual head implementation didn't suck so much. | 06:37 |
| DanaG | Random thing: I'm wondering how brightness sensors (like in the HP business laptops) work... are they exposed to the OS? | 06:38 |
| DanaG | It bugs me that reviews not only don't figure out those sorts of things.... but they don't even consider trying to figure it out. | 06:38 |
| DanaG | I saw a review of some laptop that said it could run HL2 at highest settings........... but didn't say at what resolution that was. =þ | 06:39 |
| DanaG | I also keep seeing mention of a kernel driver for the "MDPS" accelerometer.... but it's not in-tree, and its existence seems to be as random threads scattered about on LKML. | 06:40 |
| DanaG | god damn flash! | 06:52 |
| G_009 | fortunately thats more complicated that the confusing shutdown/logout sequence | 06:52 |
| DanaG | Excuse the swearing, but Flash is just plain a pain. | 06:52 |
| DanaG | I have to reload my browser itself after almost every single Flash video. | 06:52 |
| DanaG | Not just reload the page.... but actually restart the browser. | 06:53 |
| * DanaG wishes Flash would go DIAF (die in a fire). | 06:53 | |
| DanaG | what the heck? "This demonstration requires Flash 7 or newer". | 06:55 |
| G_009 | under system you have logout and shutdown options but if i choose shutdown a dialog asks if i want to hybernate, suspend and so on.. i select shutdown again and i only get logged out of user | 06:55 |
| DanaG | Here's a good test case for FLash: look at some of the "demo" things on here. | 06:56 |
| DanaG | http://h20181.www2.hp.com/plmcontent/NACSC/SML/ | 06:56 |
| G_009 | and running man in the corner only gives me a logout option.. make it more intuitive | 06:57 |
| DanaG | Apparently under Linux, 10 < 7. | 06:58 |
| DanaG | Hah! | 06:58 |
| DanaG | Adobe can't do math. | 06:58 |
| RAOF | G_009: That's a known bug; gnome-session's undergoing a re-write, and our custom-logout stuff is not yet updated. | 06:58 |
| G_009 | good to know.. i was getting worried.. it's being like that for a few days now | 06:59 |
| DanaG | How do I go back to an older Flash? | 07:01 |
| DanaG | Flash 9 at least only crashed after 3 pages.... not after EVERY page. | 07:01 |
| DanaG | And only on close... not RANDOMLY. | 07:01 |
| DanaG | It also now spams my desktop with windows when flash crashes. | 07:01 |
| DanaG | I wish we could force Adobe's employers to use Flash as WE use it... | 07:02 |
| DanaG | then they'd perhaps FIX it. | 07:02 |
| DanaG | s/ers/ees/ | 07:02 |
| G_009 | i get a few FF crashes here and there but compared to your description mine is very stable | 07:03 |
| DanaG | http://h20181.www2.hp.com/plmcontent/NACSC/SML/results.htm?SID=3744212&MEID=A3FDA6CC-702C-46BF-8F69-A8A955FA6134 | 07:04 |
| DanaG | Try that. | 07:04 |
| G_009 | i get your error too.. but didnt crash | 07:05 |
| G_009 | other flash is functional though | 07:06 |
| DanaG | Where can I reinstall the Flash 9 package? | 07:07 |
| G_009 | am using shockwave flash 10.0.0 d525 with not much issues | 07:09 |
| DanaG | Oh heck, swfdec-mozilla crashes, too. | 07:11 |
| === david is now known as Guest1212 | ||
| DanaG | Is it just me, or does epiphany-webkit not support tabs or even multiple windows? | 07:41 |
| === Guest1212 is now known as berbsd | ||
| berbsd | is anyone having issue with sound when playing DVD? Sound works on my box, but with DVD?! | 07:42 |
| berbsd | really? no-one? | 07:45 |
| RAOF | DanaG: I'm pretty sure it supports both tabs and multiple windows. | 07:45 |
| RAOF | DanaG: It doesn't support remembering passwords, and a bunch of other features though. | 07:45 |
| DanaG | Perhaps just that Services Media Library site doesn't work with it. | 07:46 |
| DanaG | Hmm, anybody here know anything about UEFI? | 08:12 |
| Jordan_U | DanaG, A little, what's your question? | 08:12 |
| DanaG | I'm curious if it's at all useful. | 08:13 |
| DanaG | Look around in this BIOS-menu emulator for one of HP's new business laptops. | 08:13 |
| DanaG | http://h20181.www2.hp.com/plmcontent/NACSC/SML/results.htm?SID=3688868&MEID=5C316DB1-6B5B-4C11-9F68-807A3979A6CE | 08:14 |
| DanaG | One option is "UEFI Boot Mode" | 08:14 |
| Jordan_U | DanaG, EFI is awesome but I can't think of any features that would be particularly useful over BIOS for an individual machine | 08:18 |
| RAOF | Jordan_U: The ability to make sure Windows won't boot? :) | 08:19 |
| Jordan_U | RAOF, Windows actually supports EFI | 08:19 |
| RAOF | Which one? XP (not x86-64?) | 08:20 |
| RAOF | I'm moderately sure that Vista does, though. | 08:20 |
| Jordan_U | RAOF, I know 2000 server does for itanium | 08:21 |
| Jordan_U | RAOF, 64 bit Vista does as well ( 32 bit Vista did as well in the Betas IIRC ) | 08:21 |
| DanaG | In the fall, I'll likely get the high-end equivalent of that laptop; I'll mess around with it then. | 08:23 |
| DanaG | There are some pretty nifty-sounding things in there, | 08:27 |
| DanaG | The UEFI thing will be interesting to experiment with. | 08:30 |
| DanaG | I wonder if it actually has any end-user-visible benefits (I don't mean "average" end-user, of course). | 08:31 |
| RAOF | It can, I believe; it can allow better bootloaders, I think. | 08:32 |
| DanaG | It also has a "Custom Logo" option; I wonder who sets what the "Custom Logo" is. | 08:32 |
| DanaG | It'd be cool to be able to set my own. | 08:33 |
| Jordan_U | DanaG, You can get fancy boot menu's like rEFIt | 08:33 |
| Jordan_U | DanaG, With rEFIt it reads a .ico ( I think ) file on the root of the partition | 08:34 |
| DanaG | But this is a BIOS/EFI setup option. | 08:34 |
| * RAOF wonders idly how easy it'd be to use kwin with Gnome now. | 08:34 | |
| DanaG | Take a look around in that menu emulator. | 08:34 |
| DanaG | Ooh, that rEFIt looks like awesomeness. | 08:35 |
| * DanaG wonders how well ATI graphics cards will work under EFI. | 08:36 | |
| DanaG | Probably better than nvidia, actually -- now that ATI is open-sourced. | 08:37 |
| Jordan_U | DanaG, I think that fglrx depends on BIOS calls :( | 08:37 |
| * hyperair wonders what laptop he should get | 08:37 | |
| DanaG | Well, if you want to try that thing... that's HP's new EliteBook 6930p. | 08:39 |
| DanaG | I'm waiting for them to apply the same upgrades to the high-end business laptops. | 08:39 |
| Jordan_U | I can't get either fglrx or madwifi working ( and haven't had either ever work so far in Intrepid ) | 08:39 |
| * DanaG has Intel 3945 right now.... and notes that it sucks. | 08:40 | |
| DanaG | It has horrible throughput. | 08:41 |
| DanaG | In fact, my cardbus bcm4306 card actually works far better for things like PulseAudio streaming. | 08:41 |
| DanaG | s/bcm/BCM/ | 08:41 |
| hyperair | what's wrong with the throughput? | 08:44 |
| hyperair | what's the max speed you usually get? | 08:44 |
| DanaG | It's easier to quantify with behavior, such as when streaming PulseAudio. | 08:45 |
| DanaG | Intel: play play drop..................................... switches back to onboard. | 08:46 |
| DanaG | (s/onboard/local/) | 08:46 |
| DanaG | Broadcom: play play [skip] play play play play [skip] play play play [skip] play play | 08:46 |
| DanaG | The Intel reports connection speed of 54 megabits; the Broadcom reports something more like 16 megabits... but perhaps the Intel one is lying? | 08:47 |
| DanaG | The broadcom one does sometimes report 54, also. | 08:47 |
| DanaG | Oh, and if I leave rfkill set to "kill" for too long, the driver actually entirely disables the interrupt of the device. | 08:48 |
| DanaG | On the Intel, that is. | 08:48 |
| DanaG | Broadcom cardbus card supports an rfkill interface, but of course, has no way to trigger it. | 08:48 |
| * DanaG goes off to bed. | 08:49 | |
| DanaG | Tue Jul 29 00:49:48 PDT 2008 | 08:49 |
| Jordan_U | I can't get either fglrx or madwifi working ( and haven't had either ever work so far in Intrepid ) | 08:54 |
| stefanlsd | can anyone help me trying to make a pbuider environment for intrepid | 09:52 |
| stefanlsd | ends like this - http://pastebin.com/d3d5301e4 (essentially W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release Unable to find expected entry restriced/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) | 09:53 |
| stefanlsd | thats doing the create | 09:53 |
| mvo | stefanlsd: is that a typo in "restriced" ? | 10:11 |
| stefanlsd | mvo: damn. yeah. u got it. thanks. didnt see that | 10:18 |
| mvo | stefanlsd: the apt error message is not great, np | 10:25 |
| hachaboob | Is there something special I need to do to get guest access to samba shares working? | 11:03 |
| RAOF | Anyone know offhand how to make it appear that I'm in the US? | 11:05 |
| RAOF | Stupid geolocating IP addresses. | 11:05 |
| gnomefreak | hachaboob: not sure but you might get more help in #ubuntu | 11:26 |
| hachaboob | gnomefreak: i think i fixed it. unless i uncommented a default setting :) | 11:26 |
| gnomefreak | hachaboob: is this on Hardy? | 11:27 |
| hachaboob | gnomefreak: but something has changed from hardy to intrepid | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | hachaboob: alot has | 11:27 |
| hachaboob | gnomefreak: as much as i want to go back to hardy i like to suffer | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | hachaboob: i hope you have a separate partition with stable release or windows | 11:30 |
| hyperair | gnomefreak: why windows | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | s/i hope/you will hope | 11:30 |
| hyperair | hachaboob: you masochist you | 11:30 |
| hachaboob | gnomefreak: no. i have my data on a separate partition and reinstall doesnt take too long so... | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | hyperair: i asked for either. you can get help from a windows pc for Ubuntu | 11:30 |
| hyperair | that's what the livecd is for | 11:31 |
| hyperair | either way windows isn't exactly the most stable thing in the world. if i wanted to torture myself with windows, i'd use intrepid | 11:37 |
| gnomefreak | hyperair: it makes his PC usable if intrepid breaks really bad | 11:43 |
| * gnomefreak doesnt care what other OS he uses but intrepid should not be only OS he has | 11:43 | |
| hyperair | lol alright | 11:43 |
| untermensch | when does 8.10 go into beta? | 16:06 |
| geser | !schedule | 16:13 |
| ubottu | A schedule of Intrepid Ibex (8.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule | 16:13 |
| geser | untermensch: see the schedule ^^ | 16:14 |
| untermensch | lol ty | 16:14 |
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| teoti | Hello all. | 16:59 |
| teoti | Anyone here have any luck with dual monitors yet? | 17:00 |
| cypherdelic | Gr33t5! | 17:47 |
| stmartin | I press Alt+Shift and my LED of Scroll Lock lights up. I tried in System --> Preferences --> Keyboard ---> Layout ---> Layout Options, I decheck ScrollLock LED shows alternative layout. Also I decheck Alt+Shift change layout, and when I click Close, the options are the same as before. | 18:23 |
| stmartin | any help, please? | 18:24 |
| Pici | stmartin: Is this in Intrepid? | 18:26 |
| stmartin | yes :) | 18:28 |
| stmartin | Pici: can u pls reproduce the prob. ? | 18:29 |
| Pici | stmartin: Actually, I only have ssh access here, sorry. | 18:29 |
| stmartin | what is ssh access? | 18:30 |
| Pici | !ssh | 18:31 |
| ubottu | SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ | 18:31 |
| stmartin | kk, thanks anyway | 18:33 |
| teoti | Anyone here have any luck with dual monitors yet? | 18:37 |
| === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle | ||
| gnumm | will kubuntu 8.10 have kde4.1.2? | 19:26 |
| wastrel | a stitch in time saves 9 | 19:32 |
| Dedi | ah now the most files are in the intrepid repos | 19:35 |
| Dedi | kde4.1 | 19:35 |
| _21h_ | hi. i'm want to test new alpha. upgrade from 8.04 may cause some problems? | 19:56 |
| aguitel | _21h_, burn your pc (only) | 19:58 |
| _21h_ | thanks, but i dont have gasoline (: | 19:58 |
| aguitel | _21h_, tell to saudi arab people | 19:59 |
| _21h_ | )))) | 19:59 |
| _21h_ | если бы ты говорил на русском, ты бы понял, что я тебя послал нахуй :) | 20:00 |
| aguitel | _21h_, i make clean install with alpha 3 and works fine | 20:00 |
| _21h_ | clean install is not linux way ) | 20:00 |
| Dedi | _21h_: boot from a live cd, make with partimage a backup of the whole partition, and then upgrade your current install | 20:01 |
| _21h_ | mmm.... | 20:01 |
| _21h_ | cp to backup server | 20:01 |
| _21h_ | and upgrade | 20:01 |
| _21h_ | its faster | 20:02 |
| askand | Anyone knows the reason settings and administration menu has switched places? | 20:18 |
| DanaG | askand: alacarte can fix it. | 20:46 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, faubackup is one thing you can use to back stuff up; just remember to use --one-filesystem | 20:47 |
| askand | DanaG: yea I know that :) was just curious what the reason was..doesnt seem to follow the "if its not broken, dont fix it" philosophy | 20:49 |
| phaverkamp | Anyone found a fix for getting Alpha 3 working in a Virtualbox VM? | 21:02 |
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| aguitel | anyone know why aptitude is not installed in alpha3 ? | 21:15 |
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