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lucas_zoredache: when i try to drag select nothing happens00:05
LoCaLMaChIn1I would like to have anyones opinion on Xubuntu00:42
LoCaLMaChIn1can you get a modem dialer for it00:42
LoCaLMaChIn1hello00:44
Syderoyou can get anything for it00:45
Syderohi00:45
zoredacheLoCaLMaChIn1: yes it is possible to configure ppp links...  I don't know if there is gui available by default though00:45
LoCaLMaChIn1zoredache and Sydero do any of you have a modem dialer00:46
zoredacheI haven't used a dialup connection in a few years...00:46
Syderono00:46
zoredachelast time I did I simply configured everything manually00:46
LoCaLMaChIn1ok00:46
LoCaLMaChIn1what do you think about xubuntu good or bad00:47
SyderoI like it00:47
LoCaLMaChIn1what do you like about it00:47
zoredacheit is good for me...00:47
Syderobut it's slightly buggy00:47
Syderomy firefox menu fonts are too big00:47
LoCaLMaChIn1in what respect00:47
LoCaLMaChIn1ok00:47
Syderoxfce is nice because it's lightweight00:48
zoredacheI like the light-weight nature...  I am very much a cli person, so having a minimal gui is nice00:48
LoCaLMaChIn1I have a older pc 1999 compaq presario what version would work out better the 8.04 version or the 6.06 lts?00:49
zoredacheall I really use is a lots of terminals, a gui text editor, and my web browser00:49
zoredacheLoCaLMaChIn1: how much memory?00:49
LoCaLMaChIn1about 128mb00:49
LoCaLMaChIn1I plan on upgrading with another stick of 256mb00:50
zoredacheI am not sure about 6.06, but at least 192 is pretty much required lately00:50
LoCaLMaChIn1yeah I need to upgrade this dino box00:50
LoCaLMaChIn1I installed Ubuntu for the first time last year and I love it no complaints except there were times it froze on certain websites and I don't know why00:51
LoCaLMaChIn1brb00:52
zoredache95% of the lockups in the browser I have experienced where related to buggy versions of flash00:54
LoCaLMaChInEWell I plan on moving to Xubuntu once I can get the iso file since I don't have High speed01:01
SyderoHas anyone here successfully installed selinux?01:01
nbjaymehello, i desperately need  a file called ccd569.fw... anyone? thanks in advance02:06
xml333hello02:26
xml333help me please02:26
xml333hello i've installed xubuntu 8.04 hardy and i need to find the power manager. the daemon initiates when i log in but, i can't have access to it to modify the power off time of the screen and i don't know how to call it from the terminal02:26
xml333hello i've installed xubuntu 8.04 hardy and i need to find the power manager. the daemon initiates when i log in but, i can't have access to it to modify the power off time of the screen and i don't know how to call it from the terminal02:40
Storm_Cloudhi02:49
Storm_Clouduhm, could somebody help me with a small problem?02:50
Syderono!02:53
Syderonever!02:53
bassboihey... does 64 bit linux run in true 64 bit form, and not also use 32 bit code?02:54
SyderoI think so02:55
Syderocan't confirm it02:55
nbjayme anyone have ccd569.fw xsane file?03:24
Syderowhy?03:25
nbjaymethis pc has a colorpage genius 1200XE and only that file is needed to have it working.03:31
overriderhello there; i cannot get sound to work on my asus f8sv. it did work fine before, but recently i reinstalled xubuntu 8.04 from scratch, and for some reason there is no sound. sudo alsamixer wont show anything. is there anything i can do quickly to check , or load some driver or? thanks03:49
overriderit seems lsmod shows nothing related to snd , sound, alsa or similar03:51
johnHello03:59
johnHow do i get clam to update? It says i must be loged in as root.03:59
johnanyone talking in here.04:03
Syderono04:04
Syderoclam?04:04
Syderoyou're using an antivirus on linux :S04:04
Syderorun the app using sudo04:04
Syderoin terminal04:04
evilbugantivirus :):):)04:05
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thinkmassiveI'm seeing some really strange behavior with my xfdesktop...04:59
thinkmassivefirst my sound stopped working (not sure if this is related), then I restarted X and the desktop (background, icons, menu on click) were missing04:59
thinkmassivethis happened before and I simply re-enabled "Allow Xfce to manage the desktop" under Desktop Preferences04:59
thinkmassivebut now when I try that, even when I enable it, it says "To ensure that Xfce does not manage your desktop the next time you start Xfce, please be sure to save your session when logging out."05:00
thinkmassiveand the desktop still doesn't return05:01
thinkmassiveI tried re-installing xfdesktop and xfce4-session, but that hasn't helped05:01
gaurdrohave you reinstalled xubuntu-desktop?  it'll pull in all the dependencys05:17
gaurdroand a second too late :/05:17
thinkmassiveweird, my desktop issue was fixed by a reboot05:22
thinkmassiveI looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/gdm/:0.log but saw nothing that looked promising05:25
thinkmassiveany suggestions where else to look?05:25
ffoegboyI have just bought a HP 2133 mini notebook and wish to install xubuntu. What version should I use?05:54
thinkmassiveffoegboy, hardy (8.04.1)05:58
ffoegboythinkmassive, Thanks but what processor version should I use?05:58
ffoegboythinkmassive, Should it be i386?05:58
thinkmassiveI believe so, looks like you have a Via cpu06:00
thinkmassiveit runs vista so that should be fine06:00
thinkmassivethat looks like a cool notebook06:01
ffoegboythinkmassive, Yep thats correct, yuo can get it loaded with suse but I though a lightweight linux version might be better06:01
thinkmassiveyeah, I like xubuntu on my thinkpad x61, which isn't too underpowered06:03
thinkmassiveit's small but still has a full-size keyboard, and 4:3 display... that's pretty rare now heh06:04
thinkmassivebut I definitely prefer xfce over gnome or kde06:04
ffoegboythinkmassive, I think that's a bit faster than the HP... LOL06:04
thinkmassiveoh yeah, a bit hehe06:05
thinkmassivewhat speed did you get?06:05
thinkmassiveand how much ram?06:06
ffoegboythinkmassive, 1.6, 2meg ram 160 gB hard drive06:06
thinkmassivewhoa, nice06:06
thinkmassivemine is 1.6 too haha06:06
ffoegboythinkmassive, I hope so, I get it tomorrow :-)06:07
thinkmassivecore 2 duo, but still06:07
thinkmassiveawesome!06:08
thinkmassivewhere are you in the world?06:08
ffoegboythinkmassive, Gota go, thanks for the chat06:08
thinkmassiveme too, 'night06:08
soulroothello all, heron user here. every time i open amarok my system crashes to login screen, can anyone help?06:17
soulrootxubuntu-heron06:18
soulroothas anyone had this problem maybe? is it something that can't be fixed?06:22
aa2277dddd06:30
aa2277Oh, sorry. Anyone here?06:30
gaurdroi am06:36
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Raz0Rhow do i see what programs run at startup?07:50
Raz0Ris there any reason why firefox would be starting at startup. its not in my autostarted apps list?07:53
nubuntuanybody have any experiecne using xara xtreme for linux on xub?07:56
nazwhats the default font to use? i'm using Sans at the moment and it looks kind of ugly and the letters are too broad for dense info presentation... the default sans font used in Firefox looks nice... but i dont know what it is07:59
TheSheepnaz: I like DejaVu Sans Condensed08:25
nazTheSheep i dont have that... how do you add a font to ubuntu08:34
naz?08:34
ere4si!font08:36
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer08:36
TheSheepnaz: dejavu should be installed by default08:41
naznot condensed08:41
TheSheepnaz: it's a variant, like bold or italic08:41
nazoh08:41
nazsec...08:42
nazcool08:42
nazgot it08:42
nubuntuanybody have any experiecne using xara xtreme for linux on xub?09:04
TheSheepnubuntu: yes, but I like Inkscape more09:04
nubuntuis inkscape as capable and versatile as xara?09:06
TheSheepnubuntu: no idea, but it's pretty scalable and versatile. just a memory hog.09:07
nubuntuanyways, my question is more leading to: HOW do i install xara on xub or ub?  i believe inkscape is referenced in the documentation, but i can't find anything for installing xara...09:07
TheSheepnubuntu: sudo apt-get install xaralx xaralx-svg09:08
TheSheepand xaralx-examples if you like09:09
nubuntuoh, thankx, sheep, i go try now09:10
nubuntuso after first part i do sudo apt-get install xaralx-examples  ?09:11
nubuntucool, everything seemed to go fine, lem e go check it out ... thanks again! :)09:14
MrNaz`once started, how do you turn compiz off ?10:56
wols_kill its process12:01
cody-somerville\o/ Heya Everyone! :)12:01
cody-somervilleReminder that a Xubuntu Meeting is taking place today @ 1800 UTC :)12:02
HouliCan anybody tell me how to remove the About Ubuntu program in Xubuntu it is under Accesories12:05
TheSheepHouli: what does it point to?12:06
* TheSheep doesn't have it12:06
Houlihold on12:06
Houlighelp:about-ubuntu12:07
Houliavant window navigator installedink it i th12:07
Houliit says it can't find above help12:07
cody-somervilleHouli, You can edit /usr/share/application/ubuntu-about.desktop to show only in gnome12:07
Houliwell it opens a yelp process12:07
TheSheepcan you open a terminal and type "grep 'About Ubuntu' /usr/share/applications/*.desktop" and tell me the line it returns?12:08
TheSheepHouli: nevermind, cody already gave the file name12:08
TheSheepHouli: dpkg -S /usr/share/application/ubuntu-about.desktop  will tell you in which package that file is12:08
Houliok hold on12:09
Houlinot found?12:09
Houliusr/share/applications12:10
Houliwith s12:10
Houliyou said application12:10
Houlihold on12:10
Houlignome-panel-data12:11
Houliok12:11
Houlii'll remove that12:11
Houlithx12:11
cody-somervilleHouli, are you running Intrepid? :)12:12
Houlino12:13
HouliHardy12:13
cody-somervilleOkay12:13
Houliwhy?12:13
cody-somervilleJust wondering12:13
Houlii wouldn't  touch an alpha after what happened with Hardy alpha12:13
cody-somervilleWhat happened with the Hardy Alpha?12:14
Houliit generally just didn't work with my hardware12:15
Houlihardy full release did :)12:15
cody-somervilleOkay.12:15
cody-somervilleWell, if you do manage to have a spare computer to try Intrepid Alphas out on, please feel free to help us :)12:15
Houlii will put intrepid alpha on this machine when i get my mac mini and put hardy on that12:17
Houlii will always try to help the develpers12:17
TheSheepHouli: removing gnome-panel-data will remove important part of your ubuntu installation12:18
Houliwoops12:18
Houlialready did it12:18
cody-somervillejust reinstall it :)12:18
Houliwhat is it for12:18
cody-somervillegnome12:18
TheSheepHouli: better to do what cody-somerville advised then :)12:18
Houlii use xfce4-panel12:18
TheSheepHouli: then why did you have a gnome panel package?12:19
Houliavant installed gnome-panel12:19
cody-somervilleAh12:19
cody-somervilleThat explains it.12:19
RyanVanDiemenHi guys, I`m trouble running 32-bit xubuntu (live CD won`t load, unable to access the hdd) on 64-bit AMD x2, is this normal or problem is somewhere else and not the processor...12:19
Houlii removed it afterwards12:19
cody-somervilleHouli, okay, you're safe then12:19
Houliye12:19
Houlii thought so12:19
cody-somervilleRyanVanDiemen, what is the exact error message :(12:20
Houlianyone know a good screen capturing tool that supports audio from my mic and doesn't skip when moving windows like xvidcap12:20
RyanVanDiemenwell at first it won`t load right at the beginning saying something about ACIP, and advise me to load it with noacpi option, it didn`t help, so I just disable ACIP in BIOS and then it stops booting at later stage with something like not able to access root area (or s.t. like that) and it advises me to choose one of the partitions below and it shows only RAM parts...12:21
RyanVanDiemenI had troubles with my on-board graphics (it showed some lines on screen that shouldn`t be there) so I bought new graphic card and now it won`t boot at all, so this might be another problem...12:22
Houliodd12:22
Houliwhat are your specs?12:23
Houlicheck the ubuntu hardware compatibility list12:23
RyanVanDiemenAthlon X2 DualCore, 1GB memory, Asus MB, 300 W, couple of HDDs12:23
Houlitry going for the 64 bit version and tell us what happens12:24
RyanVanDiemenyeah I will today when I`m back from work :) will update tomorrow12:25
RyanVanDiementhis goes for a few days now, my computer didn`t work at all, so I checked the insides and found out that there`s something burnt on board, so I bought new board (built-in graphics) with processor and RAM but it showed those weird lines on screen (the same with different monitor), now when I bought new graphic card, this problem...so i`ll go with 64-bit version and hopefully will solve it (doesn`t matter to me which graphic card will work,12:26
Houlisounds like you've got quite a few problems12:27
RyanVanDiemenI`m bit afraid that the problem might as well be only 300 W of my case...12:27
RyanVanDiemenwell, yeah12:28
RyanVanDiemenI guess those 300 w might be the problem with the second card, so maybe the in-built card will work correctly if I install 64-bit version...hopefully12:28
RyanVanDiemenit is in ubuntu hw compatibility list as OK12:28
Houliit is taking so long to join #xubuntu-devel12:28
Houlii r annoyed12:29
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Raz0Ris there any reason why firefox would be starting at startup. its not in my autostarted apps list?15:38
MenschenFleischif you had it running when you shutdown it'll restart, along with all the other programs you have running.15:39
TheSheepMenschenFleisch: only if you have 'save session' checked15:50
MenschenFleischI assumed that's on by default?  it's always done that for me with no modification15:51
chewitdoes anyone have a link to the release notes or changelog for xfce 4.617:43
cody-somerville4.6 isn't released17:44
chewityeh, but the beta is out17:44
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bassboii guess everyone's xubuntu is running as planned eh20:11
Guest25662Dose any1 know much about bios updates?20:18
MenschenFleischdon't do them, unless there's something wrong with the current bios that can't be worked around.20:19
Guest25662I have a fujitsu siemens lifebook B-2131 with NO CD-rom drive and it dosent boot from USB?20:26
MenschenFleischperhaps net boot it?  bios flash normally require a specific working operating system.20:39
Guest25662I am running xubuntu on it at the mo but with only 128meg of ram and a 400mhz procesor its still a bit slow.20:48
zoredacheif you where expecting it to be fast then you may need to adjust your expectations20:51
Guest25662I was thinking of running nubuntu but cant find a site where I can net boot it? any suggesgions?20:53
zoredacheI don't believe nubuntu is an official project.  I suspect you would need to ask in the #nubuntu channel...20:56
Guest25662Thanks20:56
zoredachenubuntu doesn't really look like it is meant to be a desktop enviroment... it seems to be focused on being a security penetration testers box20:58
zoredache!lowmem | Guest2566220:58
ubottuGuest25662: For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.20:58
zoredachehave you checked out those pages?20:58
AaaaaarrgghhHi, I need help. This is a new install. I set a root password, and took admin rights away from the main account, and not it won't let me change anything as admin outside the terminal21:12
AaaaaarrgghhIs there anyway to enable login root access from the terminal21:13
Aaaaaarrgghhor login as root from somewhere else?21:13
zoredacheAaaaaarrgghh: press 'ctrl-alt-f1'21:13
zoredacheonce you get there login as root and do an 'adduser yourusername admin' and add your primary user to the admin group again21:14
zoredacheyou also may be able to do an 'su -' from a terminal21:14
Aaaaaarrggh1Did Ctrl Alt F1... loged in as root21:18
Aaaaaarrggh1...and couldn't startX21:18
Aaaaaarrggh1Is it a different commant on Xubuntu?21:19
zoredacheit sounds like x is already started... why would you be trying to start it again?21:19
Aaaaaarrggh1Because I can't login as root from the regular screen and I NEED to right now21:20
zoredachewhy do you need too?21:20
zoredachedid you see my above message about using adduser to make yourself and admin again?21:20
Aaaaaarrggh1Because I took admin rights away from the other account on this computer (thinking it would be better if only root was admin) and now it won't let me change anything21:21
Aaaaaarrggh1other than from terminal21:21
zoredacheonce you get there login as root and do an 'adduser yourusername admin' and add your primary user to the admin group again21:21
Aaaaaarrggh1what, after doing ctrl alt F1?21:22
zoredacheyes...  ctrl-alt-f1, login as root then use adduser to make yourself an admin21:22
Aaaaaarrggh1Okay. How do I get back to the graphical interface from there?21:22
zoredachethe 'alt-f7' hotkey from the console should get you back to your gui session21:23
Aaaaaarrggh1Thanks21:23
Houlihey guys22:31
Houlihow do you zoom with gtk-recordmydesktop?22:31
Houliit is really annoying i've seen others do it22:31
Houliso much for help22:32
Houlinobody even talks22:32
Houliplease help me out22:35
zoredacheI have no idea what that is....22:36
zoredachewhy not try and find a group or list specifically devoted to that application22:37
Houlithe website doesn't mention the shortcut22:38
Houlibut i've seen people do it22:38
th0rHouli, that is a gnome toolbar gimmick, you might try asking in #ubuntu22:39
rockyrockhi guys, plz read my post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87415923:24

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