[00:00] richard grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:00] ciao [00:00] _dennister: Its a good idea, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that with upstart in mind. You might want to try asking in #ubuntu as well, since its not a strictly KDE/kubuntu related issue. [00:00] whot are you doing? [00:00] AMDpenguin: the mobo being replaced was 7 ytears old, and the HDD is from a 14 year old PC [00:00] <_dennister> Pici: yes, that's a good idea, too...will do after i have a cig outside [00:01] Driver "kbd" [00:01] Driver "mouse" [00:01] hmm how big the harddisk? [00:01] engineer ^ [00:01] AMDpenguin: the one from the neighbours old PC is about 4gb, the opne from school is 20GB [00:01] how can i downgrade to ubuntu? [00:02] lol [00:02] the 17@ TFT was free from school because it was broken [00:03] or how can i reinstall gnome and delete kde? [00:03] !puregnome | CrAc [00:03] CrAc: If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >> [00:03] richard only those 2? [00:03] gnome treats there users as idoits [00:03] engineer: yeah [00:04] !nvidia | richard [00:04] richard: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [00:04] ty [00:04] engineer: cheers [00:05] it wont work cuz i installed kubuntu and not unbuntu with kde :D [00:05] well u understand xD [00:05] ? [00:05] why would you wanna get rid of kde [00:05] the best WM out there [00:06] This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do. Please, just tell people to use KDE. [00:06] !offtopic | AMDpenguin [00:06] AMDpenguin: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [00:06] i only wanna try my w-lan stick cuz i still get an erorr [00:07] and all tutorials for it are fo ubuntu [00:08] thats a Linus quote [00:12] Speak nothin german? [00:12] nothing [00:13] doch ich [00:13] _dennister, to change the default runlevel create /etc/inittab /usr/share/doc/upstart read the readme file its there [00:13] !de [00:13] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [00:13] Okay, I tried to add a couple new chans to xchat (I have done this before no problem) I just reinstalled ubuntu and imported my home folder so I wouldn't lose anything, but now when I close xchat none of my changes stay, my wireless only connects when I tell it to rather than on the boot. It seems like it's not saving my changes. [00:15] premission issues? [00:17] nickolaus_, ls -l ~/.xchat2/ check the premission [00:18] nuxil nickolaus@Jesus:~$ ls -l ~/.xchat2/ [00:18] ls: cannot open directory /home/nickolaus/.xchat2/: Permission denied [00:18] i'm having issues with sudo chown having no affect on an ntfs partition directory [00:18] they might be set to read and execute, but not write [00:18] haha [00:19] !w-lan [00:19] Sorry, I don't know anything about w-lan [00:19] nickolaus_, sudo chown -R nickolaus:nickolaus ~/.xchat2 [00:20] probably should do that for all of ~/ [00:20] nuxil nickolaus@Jesus:~$ ls -l ~/.xchat2/ [00:20] total 20 [00:20] drwx------ 2 nickolaus nickolaus 4096 2008-05-26 14:28 downloads [00:20] -rw------- 1 nickolaus nickolaus 3606 2008-07-29 01:26 ignore.conf [00:20] -rw------- 1 nickolaus nickolaus 0 2008-07-29 01:26 notify.conf [00:20] -rw------- 1 nickolaus nickolaus 6599 2008-07-24 16:22 servlist_.conf [00:20] -rw------- 1 nickolaus nickolaus 0 2008-07-29 01:26 sound.conf [00:20] -rw------- 1 nickolaus nickolaus 3487 2008-07-29 01:26 xchat.conf [00:20] indeed [00:20] STOP [00:20] nickolaus_, dont do that.. use pastebin.com or other paste sites === artur_ is now known as _artur_ [00:21] nuxil sorry. [00:21] nuxil how i install the binary nvidia drivers? [00:23] Anywhere i read, that my sinus 154 w-lan stick driver is included in the kernel, but it doesnt works how can i get it? [00:23] sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx [00:23] ok [00:23] hey all. [00:23] is kubuntu changing release cycles? [00:23] no [00:23] what is the default path for the kde directory? [00:23] nuxil http://pastebin.ca/1086604 [00:24] /usr/lib/kde4 [00:24] thx engineer [00:24] dynoll3, if you dl from nvidia.com sudo chmod 755 nvidia.bin . then sudo ./Nvidia.bin . sudo modprobe nvidia [00:24] sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx is ok? [00:25] try [00:25] ok [00:25] done and after? [00:25] restart X server [00:25] (its to use compizfusion) [00:25] how [00:25] (im a bit newb sorry :S) [00:25] log off [00:25] nickolaus_, restart xchat now [00:25] ctrl alt backspace [00:25] in kdm [00:26] restart session [00:26] ctrl+alt+backspace breaks apps and once caused me data loss [00:27] I think that fixed it. [00:28] good for you :) [00:28] how hot is it in norway right now [00:30] up in north its about 17 deg celsius here. [00:30] just warm then [00:31] o i though they were going to change to follow kdes release cycle [00:31] <_dennister> nuxil: hey there; i was just about to ask for assistance with this ongoing issue in the ubuntu channel [00:31] engineer, why you ask? planning on taking a trip ? [00:31] ye [00:31] never visited scandinavia [00:32] in shouht its much warmer.. 20-30 deg c [00:32] !iwconfig [00:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about iwconfig [00:32] -.- [00:32] !wlan [00:32] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [00:32] _dennister, shoot [00:32] ok, i'll keep that in mind [00:32] <_dennister> the only remotely-appropriate inittab to edit that i could find in my system was: /usr/lib/upstart/migrate-inittab.pl [00:33] <_dennister> is that the one? i don't need to migrate as i'm already on hardy 8.04.1 [00:35] no sound [00:35] no sound [00:38] upgrade to kde4.1 complete... time to restart X [00:40] _dennister, did you read that file in the docs ? [00:40] engineer, if you want to see the midnight sun you must take a trip up in north norway [00:40] daylight 24/7 [00:41] <_dennister> nuxil: which file? [00:41] <_dennister> i read a lot :) [00:42] /usr/share/doc/upstart the readme file in there [00:42] it tells you how to change default runlevel [00:43] its compressed though [00:44] nuxil ok thanks for the tip [00:44] <_dennister> i guess i didn't, as i'd slocated for inittab, getting only 3 results...did look at one, but the only entry that had doc in its path was for mgetty...and i haven't even tried to configure that yet [00:45] <_dennister> but i will now... [00:47] sound card doesnt work [00:47] !compiz [00:47] Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion [00:48] sound card doesnt work [00:49] !sound [00:49] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [00:49] richard sudo aptitude install compiz-kde [00:50] thankyou again engineer [00:52] <_dennister> ok, rebooting to try out my created /etc/inittab file [00:54] !xgl [00:54] Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion [00:55] is that old TNT card just too old for compiz? [01:07] hey guys, how do I enable the creation of ntfs partitions in gparted? [01:08] I know gparted is a gnome app, but I think I'm missing a library, this probabily would effect qtparted too if I had it installed. [01:15] Is there a way to use one resolution on one screen, and a different one on another, without spanning desktops [01:17] <_dennister> still no joy :( [01:20] tasty chicken [01:21] <_dennister> well, i'm so frustrated i'm gonna take a break and watch a movie...later ppls [01:23] I <3 ndiswrapper [01:25] i got no sound on newly installed /? any help [01:27] same problem here, and it worked just fine before the new install [01:28] I think 4.1 has more problems then rc1 had [01:33] no java applets work on the net for me now, wtf, how do i fix that? [01:34] Big_Buddha_Daddy: no swearin [01:34] Big_Buddha_Daddy: what would you like to accomplish [01:34] ok, i didnt know that was swearing, anyway, can anyone help? [01:35] i would like to be able to use web based java applets [01:35] Big_Buddha_Daddy: please do not act unkown (WTF) is swearing [01:35] Big_Buddha_Daddy: please refer by name [01:35] Big_Buddha_Daddy: what browser and what os [01:35] jeez dude, what power trip are you on? harpreet [01:35] what OS? [01:36] ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha [01:36] what channel am i in dude? [01:36] lmao [01:36] oops i swore again [01:36] uh oh [01:36] Big_Buddha_Daddy: is is kubuntu u running or ubuntu [01:36] ...... [01:36] can you help with java applets harpreet? [01:36] Big_Buddha_Daddy: manners [01:37] Big_Buddha_Daddy: if u tell me problem [01:57] Hi; i installed kubuntu kde4.1 desktop on ubuntu, restarted using kde4 login and desktop but i don't have suspend-hibination enabled [01:58] any ideas? [01:58] it is a laptop... things are/were working fine in ubuntu [01:59] 4.1 has LOTS of things missing [01:59] that might be one of them [01:59] What is 4.1 missing? [02:00] umm, about half of the configuration options [02:00] for starters [02:01] I've been useing the RC version for a few weeks and I haven't had any problems. I dunno though. === donluiz is now known as donluiz_ === donluiz_ is now known as donluiz [02:05] @ Pixeltime supposdly its not missing :p [02:05] and kde 4.1 has been released :p [02:05] i have done a bit of googling.. no one has complained about it.. supposdely it is there [02:06] ciao a tutti! [02:07] when im supposed to see grub loading during boot, i just see "grub" printed on my screen and it freezes, i cant get the comp to boot unless i use a live cd-then i boot from first hd. checked uuid in fstab. what else should i try? [02:09] !grubfix | eca [02:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about grubfix [02:09] !fixgrub | eca [02:09] eca: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [02:10] My ubuntu is not saving my changes. I reboot and it doesn't save when I changed my desktop to a cube. [02:10] hi room i need help with a start up problem When i go to boot into kubuntu it tells me that my /home/labud is out of disk space. How do I correct that problem if i cannot access my disk where i have /home directory [02:10] @ labud live cd [02:11] k ty andrboot [02:11] i have a question. does kde/kubuntu have any tools to download for example *.pdf links in a webpage. i guess i could use wget, but wondering if there is a gui way of doing it? [02:11] andrboot: Well, there is no power management in Ubuntu's 4.1, but there is in OpenSuse's [02:12] flaccid: kget [02:12] @ Pixeltime shit [02:12] although there is in Ubuntu's 3xx [02:12] something i need :| [02:12] hmm [02:12] gotta be adons [02:12] ill hunt [02:12] flaccid: with kget, you can use "List all links" and check the ones you want to download [02:13] there is also no way to set up multiple screens [02:13] ty [02:13] or pretty much anything to do with a screen [02:13] thanks Jucato [02:13] * flaccid goes to give it a try === freaky[t] is now known as c1|freaky [02:15] So, I just got KDE4 up [02:16] Accedentally removed the plasma kicker widget [02:16] How do I get it back? [02:16] Pixeltime gonna install proper kde4 mod's see what breaks [02:16] KDE 4 help in #kubuntu-kde4 please [02:17] naw, I will just install Gnome, or OpenSuse (for the 3rd time this week) [02:17] then why are you here [02:17] Pixeltime still got gnome :P just avoiding OpenSuse lol [02:17] Jucato ty :) [02:17] My ubuntu is not saving my changes. I reboot and it doesn't save any changed settings. I solved the problem with xchat sudo chown -R nickolaus:nickolaus ~/.xchat2/. Anyone know what the problem is? [02:17] axiom: alt-f2 [02:18] axiom: then in the run box type kicker [02:18] I am here cause I wanted to give it a FAIR try with a wipe instal [02:18] axiom: should work in either kde3 or 4, depending on the environment you do this from [02:19] Thanks gustin, does't seem to work in KDE4. I've switched channels [02:19] nickolaus_: At some point you ran it as root and it ganked your permissions. [02:19] gustin: there is no kicker in KDE 4 [02:19] I've done that three or four times now, Takes about 15 mins to remember how to fix each time, haha. [02:20] Jucato: ah youur right, ignore me axiom [02:20] buckethead is there a way to reset all of the permissions en mass rather than one by one? [02:20] because they all seem to be off. [02:20] nickolaus_: sudo chmod youruser -R ~/ [02:21] nickolaus_: probably safe to use /home/username than ~/ in case you make a typo [02:21] nickolaus_: recursive chmod on / is bad [02:25] nickolaus_, sudo chown -R nickolaus:nickolaus ~/ that will set both owner and group to you name. [02:25] damn it [02:25] to late === root is now known as Guest6000 [02:30] hello. I just installed mysql and phpmyadmin and I'm trying to log into it but it won't let me. I've tried my username, the username root with no password and the root password of the machine with no luck. Can anybody help? === alain is now known as Guest71815 [02:31] crud, I just got it. === Guest71815 is now known as alz [02:31] thanks anyway :-) === alz is now known as alz_ [02:31] * Pixeltime looks as 'someone else' already has a 4.1 Live CD === root is now known as Guest8407 [02:50] hi [02:57] I installed kdm-kde4 but It still starts kde3 kdm. I tried dpkg-reconfigure. How can I use kde4 kdm ? [02:57] Aranel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm [02:58] then choose kdm-kde4 when you're asked [02:58] Jucato: tried both ot them. [02:58] Jucato: its kdm-kde4 but still starts kde3 [02:58] I've got a tar.bz2 file here. Whats the command line to untar it? I've tried tar -xj (name) but its not working. The man is kinda confusing :/ [02:59] rikard__: tar xjvf file.tar.bz2 [02:59] Aranel: ah... actually it doesn't matter whether you use kdm or kdm-kde4... to start a KDE 4 session you have to choose "KDE 4" from the session menu in the login screen [02:59] Thanks Pici. I'll look up the tags to learn :) [02:59] Jucato: I know but KDM4 is newer/better/good looking than kdm3 :) [03:00] thanks. I get it now :) [03:00] Aranel: so use kdm-kde4. but you still need to choose KDE 4 from the session menu [03:00] rikard__: x = extract, j = bzip (z is for gzip), v = verbose, f = "a file name needs to be given" :) [03:00] Jucato: I'm trying to use it :) But It starts KDM3. [03:00] Jucato: And I cant change it :/ [03:00] Aranel: I'm confused, you said Jucato: its kdm-kde4 but still starts kde3 [03:01] "kdm" is different from "kde" [03:01] Jucato: sorry my fault :) I switched to kdm-kde4 but It still starts kdm-kde3 . [03:02] Aranel: hm. ok.. you might want to ask in #kubuntu-kde4 [03:02] Jucato: ok :) [03:02] Aranel: I'm presuming you restarted X when you reconfigured to use kdm-kde4 [03:03] Jucato: sure. [03:04] Jucato: here's my /etc/X11/default-display-manager: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kdm === c1|freaky is now known as fReAkY[t] [03:08] can any of u guys help me here [03:08] got a problem [03:09] !anyone | ninja_ [03:09] ninja_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [03:09] niha say ur problem [03:09] ninja_: say ur problem [03:09] i cannot surf the web [03:09] y [03:09] as u can see i am in irc so my net works [03:09] but when i go to google or any other website [03:09] harpreet: can you please type in "real" words? [03:09] says cannot load [03:10] Jucato: i respect that [03:10] An error occurred while loading http://google.com: [03:10] Could not connect to host http://google.com/. [03:10] ninja_: check your firewall and proxy settings [03:10] dont know how to :( [03:10] ninja_: what brower you using? [03:11] browser* [03:11] konqueror [03:11] ninja to check you firewall rules sudo iptables -L -n v and paste the ouput on pastebin,com [03:11] -L -n -v [03:13] ninja_, ping google.com -c 10 and tell us if you get all 100% packet loss [03:15] google.com is having issues here. [03:15] not me [03:15] Not sure whats going on.. been having issues all day with it - or so the wife says [03:15] 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss [03:16] workes here for a few min.. then not for a few min. [03:16] Dr_willis, wifi has some packet losess usaly.. is your not 2 feet away from the router [03:16] *if . [03:18] wired [03:18] and its affecting all 3 machines [03:18] oh. that dosent sound norml [03:18] Dr_willis, other sites aswell? [03:18] weirder... firefox --> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at google.com [03:19] but it can ping google. and yes other web sites work [03:19] DNS server curruption perhaps? [03:19] dns problems [03:19] youtube has issues also [03:19] try with ip [03:19] 64.233.187.99 [03:20] that workd [03:21] :) then it is dns problems [03:21] Dr_willis, have you tryied to ass opendns instead of your dns you get from your isp ? [03:22] *ass --> add [03:22] 'sorry about that [03:22] It seems to be working right now.. [03:31] okay, I don't mind having system sounds, but when a sound plays for every window or program that I open, it gets really annoying [03:32] which sound is it that plays when a window or program opens so I can turn it off? [03:32] system settings/notifications/turn off all sounds [03:34] hate those silly sounds [03:35] ah, thank you [03:35] I don't mind it when something critical happens, but then, usually I can tell if my system decided to barf at me [03:36] but just for opening a program got a bit dumb [03:36] bdizzle: you can choose from the list which to disable [03:36] yeah, I saw [03:36] sounds off worked well too =P [03:37] bdizzle: don't be too quick to dismiss it. it's useful when a window (such as a dialog box) gets opened on another desktop or behind other windows so that you don't visually notice that a new window appeared [03:37] yeah bdizzle , turning off all sounds is just my choice [03:37] eh, I usually don't use the multiple desktops [03:37] its a nice feature to mess around with, but never got into working it right [03:38] oh, speaking of [03:38] how do I set up the cube, that did get me working to multiple desktops before I had to reformat [03:38] I was wondering what the default SMTP username/password is for ubuntu server edition? I'm needing to plug these details in my website. [03:39] i know this isn't the right channel, but no one else seems to know. [03:39] >:| [03:40] hmm, I need to check to see if I have compiz-fusion on here, its strange [03:40] default username and password for an OS is the same as the login , is it not ? === bayone is now known as Gemini === Gemini is now known as ^Gemini^ [03:43] nodding off a bit early tonight, but when you're outta gas, that's it ...night all [03:43] <^Gemini^> oi [03:45] has anyone checked out KDE 4.1 yet? [03:45] bdizzle: #kubuntu-kde4 people definitely have [03:46] lol [03:47] did not know such channel existed [03:50] Howdy, folks! [03:50] Out of curiosity, does the "kde4 remix" hardy livecd include the released kde 4.1, or an older version? [03:50] hello all === bayone is now known as Maaarcio [03:51] oi [03:51] I've got a question about firefor spefic to kubuntu [03:51] never mind, I think I have my answer... that was certainly wishful thinking on my part ;) [03:51] forfox* [03:51] lol [03:51] I can't type [03:51] haha [03:51] *state your question* [03:52] anyway I have an install of kubuntu 8.04 which I upgraded firefox to version 3 [03:53] my problem is that firefox doesn't seem to have proper permissions in it's installed location somehow [03:53] how do you mean? [03:53] if I run firefox as a normal user [03:53] yeah? [03:53] no bookmarks are retained [03:53] if I go to a new page I can't go back [03:53] it doesn't remember where I've been [03:54] so I'm guessing some setting file isn't getting the permissions it needs [03:54] Well, if you ran it as root once using sudo, it may be that the permissions are all wonky inside ~/.mozilla [03:54] if I run firefox as root everything works fine [03:54] Yeah, don't do that ;) [03:54] * Hola Ola [03:54] isn't that dangerous touhg [03:54] so, open up a terminal, and do the following [03:54] bpcomp: yeah, it's dangerous to run firefox as root. [03:55] or any browser [03:55] :-) [03:55] bpcomp: but do the following: "sudo chown -R : ~/.mozilla" [03:55] where is your username [03:55] kk [03:55] (and, probably your default group) [03:56] (hence the two instances of 'me') [03:56] make sure firefox isn't running while you're doing this. If it was, quit it and do it again ;) [03:56] lol [03:56] ok now to test [03:57] yay [03:57] that worked [03:57] awesome ^_^ [03:57] so I understand what you did to fix it [03:57] but not why it broke in the first place [03:57] oh well [03:57] So, .... did you ever run firefox as root? [03:57] even once? [03:57] it sounds like you did [03:57] probably [03:58] when I couldn't get it to work on the user account [03:58] well, it's something you'd have to do explicitly.... I mean, did the problem exist before you ran it as root for the first time? [03:58] yes [03:58] as soon as it was installed it never ran properly [03:58] very odd. I mean [03:59] yep [03:59] and not being a guru it threw me for a llop [03:59] loop* [03:59] I can go the cop-out way and say that using the same profile directory for two different major versions of firefox has had a history of resulting in bizarre behavior [03:59] thank you very much for the help [03:59] and if I'm making that upgrade and problems occur, I often create a new 'preofile' for use with the new version, and copy my bookmarks over [03:59] but that's not a real answer [03:59] no prob [04:00] well the default install had ff2 and I upgraded to 3 [04:00] yep [04:00] *shrugs* [04:01] Hmm. How did you do the upgrade? [04:01] adept manager [04:01] heh, let it go, pipegeek, let it go [04:01] yeah, that doesn't make sense [04:01] * pipegeek shrugs [04:01] I'm just lucky that way sometimes [04:01] haha [04:01] today I had to trace down a bad port on a symantec gateway [04:02] just lucky [04:13] sounds like fun [04:14] Hi anyone here using kubuntu 4.1? [04:14] I can't connect to any account with kopete, nor browse with konqueror [04:14] konqueror says: Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'. [04:15] and kopete dosn't thow any error but it can't connect either to jabber (gtalk) nor msn [04:16] anyone has a clue what's going on? [04:16] is it possible to get widgets / plasmoids in KDE 3.5? [04:16]