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DanaGOh hey, how can I make a persistent mount with fstab, yet ensure that if it doesn't mount, things can't write to where the mount would be?06:35
telexiconDanaG, mount a readonly tmpfs beforehand?06:38
DanaGHmm, that's an idea.06:38
telexiconoh actually06:38
telexiconyou could just set the permissions06:38
telexiconwhen the new mount goes up, it uses permissions from the new fs06:38
telexiconso set the only one like 444 or whichever06:39
telexiconer old one*06:39
DanaGoh hey, does nv driver do suspend?06:49
DanaGI'm setting up an older laptop (GeForce 420 Go) as a server, so I want it to run X to be vnc'able, but I don't need fancyness.06:50
RAOFDanaG: No.06:50
crdlbisn't there a hack involving a kernel module?06:50
RAOFDanaG: Not unless you use mjg's nv_bios module :)06:50
DanaGWhat's that?06:50
DanaGAnd does it also fix nouveau?06:51
crdlba kernel module06:51
RAOFA bios module to make nv suspend.06:51
RAOFs/bios/kernel/06:51
RAOFDanaG: It should fix nouveau*, but didn't work when I tried it.06:51
DanaGDid I show you the HP "BIOS Setup" emulator that seems to be UEFI?06:51
LSD|NinjaSpeaking of VNC, when will whatever is preventing vino from starting when you enable remote desktop be fixed?06:52
RAOFWith a very important *: it doesn't save or restore the 3d state, so if nouveau is providing any acceleration at all, it won't work on resume.06:52
RAOFDanaG: Yeah.  Interesting.06:52
DanaGGeForce 420 Go.... is not really much acceleration anyways.06:52
DanaG06:52
RAOFThere's _plenty_ of acceleration available on that.06:52
LSD|Ninjaany acceleration it does offer would be obiterated by VNC anyway since VNC is godawfully slow06:52
RAOFI'm not talking 3d; nouveau uses the 3d engine to accelerate 2d.06:53
DanaGWith 32 megs of video RAM... compiz == ouch.06:53
DanaGAnd only 256 megs of system RAM.06:53
RAOFAnd you can _really_ notice unaccelerated 2d.06:53
* crdlb begs to differ06:53
DanaGOh yeah, is there a more readable sort of CPU ID sort of thingy?06:53
DanaGlike CPU-Z?06:53
RAOFcrdlb: Ok.  _I_ can really notice unaccelerated 2d :P06:54
voidmageanyone know if there are plans to add zsnes to intrepid amd64?06:54
crdlbRAOF: I meant that in response to  < DanaG> With 32 megs of video RAM... compiz == ouch.06:54
RAOFcrdlb: Ah.  Right.06:54
RAOFvoidmage: Last time I looked, zsnes wasn't 64bit safe.  If you can fix it up so that it'll actually run on x86-64, please attach the patch to a bug ;)06:55
DanaGIf I try wobbly with it......06:55
DanaGcan you say, OOM?06:55
DanaGOut Of Memory.06:55
RAOFWobbly doesn't consume GPU memory.06:55
DanaGHmm, this is not very useful:06:55
DanaGvendor_id: GenuineIntel      cpu family: 15      model: 2    model name: Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1.60GHz    stepping: 706:55
DanaGUmm... tell me....06:56
RAOFAlthough nvidia's poor t_f_p support for that card will hinder you a bit.06:56
DanaGis that P3-celeron, or P4 celeron?06:56
LSD|Ninja1.6GHz sounds like a P406:56
RAOFOr a Core2 celeron? :)06:56
DanaGNope.06:56
DanaGWith a GeForce 420?06:56
crdlbdoes it matter? it's a celeron :>06:56
DanaG06:56
DanaGThe Athlon XP laptop with the Savage is faster... but it gets hard-lockups.06:57
* RAOF can remember when celerons were highly sought after performance parts.06:57
LSD|NinjaTualitin P3s topped out abotu about 1.4GHz iirc, Intel just couldn't push P3 higher. What's funny though is at those clockspeeds, P3 was faster than P4 which is why Intel killed tualitin :P06:57
RAOFOf course, that was when they had _no_ L2 cache at all so they could be easily and reliably overclocked.06:58
DanaGI remember seeing Slot 1 "vegetables" with a 66 MHz bus speed.06:58
LSD|NinjaCelerons were 66MHz FSB well into the S370 P3 cores06:59
DanaGActually calling it a "vegetable" is at least a bit funnier than calling it "celery".06:59
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vega--trying to go from hardy to ibex using update-manager -d but it doesn't give the option, what to do?08:38
mvovega--: what does ~/.update-manager-core/meta-release-development show?08:39
vega--mvo: there's no such file08:40
vega--the .update-manager-core dir is there08:40
vega--does /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades have anything to do with this? ie. enforcing some strict "LTS policy" ...08:41
Flannelvega--: you need -c as well08:42
Flannel-c is needed to get "away" from LTS, -d is for non-releases08:42
vega--Flannel: nope, sudo update-manager -c -d didn't do it08:43
vega--hardy is also fully up to date08:44
mvovega--: it does (/etc/update-manager) but it unless you have put "never check" there, it should still work with updat-emanager -d08:44
vega--mvo: it's set to normal08:44
mvovega--: are you behind a proxy ?08:45
vega--yes08:45
vega--but normal upgrades to hardy work08:45
mvovega--: are you in a gnome-terminal? if not, could you please open one?08:45
vega--open already08:45
mvovega--: what does echo $http_proxy print? anything useful?08:46
vega--empty08:46
mvovega--: do you have the proxy set in gnome-network-preferences ?08:47
vega--system -> preferences -> network proxy ... hmm no it's not08:47
mvovega--: aha, but it is set in synaptic I suppose? that sounds like the error08:48
vega--not set in synaptic either08:48
vega--but in apt.conf as i usualy run from command line08:48
vega--ok wait..08:48
vega--yes, now it works after setting it in synaptic08:49
mvovega--: ok, thanks - I will fix that08:50
vega--update-manager COULD say something about not being able to check for upgrades.. instead of being silent08:50
vega--ok08:50
vega--anyway, time to test hardy -> intrepid, thanks for helping08:51
mvovega--: if you could wait ~1-2h then a new version of the upgrade wil be available08:51
vega--sorry, already started the upgrade :)08:52
mvothere is a "cancel" button in the download window ;)08:53
vega--does it restore sources.list etc.? :)08:53
mvothere might be a bug in the current version that causes a crash for some people, this is why I mentioned it08:53
mvoyes08:53
mvoit will restore the original system state08:53
vega--ok, canceled, it's a test machine anyway08:53
vega--i can wait08:54
vega--does "new version of the upgrade" mean a new update-manager package for hardy or some other component behind the scenes?08:56
vega--ie. how do i know when it's safe to start upgrading..08:57
mvovega--: some component behind the scene (a new upgrader)08:59
mvovega--: the new version got just upload to intrepid, it will take a bit until it gets published, but feedback on this one is very welcome :) the way it works is that the updat-emanager in hardy downloads the "release-upgrader" component from intrepid, so nothing new in hardy is required09:09
DanaGwhat the heck.... the keyboard on this toshiba just got screwed up.09:09
DanaGd^[[2~esg09:09
DanaGThat sure doesn't look like an 'm' to me.09:09
vega--mvo: ok i see, it's the intrepid.tar.gz that update-manager downloads?09:11
mvovega--: yes09:11
vega--i'll upgrade after lunch in a few hours.. i'll report any problems09:11
mvovega--: great, thanks!09:11
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/21750409:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 217504 in linux "acpi_fakekey stopped working for certain keycodes" [High,In progress]09:29
DanaGJust noticed that today.09:29
DanaGwow, envy suggested the wrong video driver for that GeForce 420 Go.09:36
DanaGIt suggested legacy; the regular non-legacy works fine.09:36
DanaGargh, where's cubeaddons?09:50
DanaG... and staticswitcher?09:52
sanzanricSo does anybody know if synaptic is still being actively developed?09:59
mvosanzanric: yes it is10:00
sanzanricTheir last release was in 200510:01
mvosanzanric: synaptic as in the package manager gui? the last release (0.62.1) was within the last couple of weeks :) the website may be badly out of date though10:01
sanzanricOh, ok. Yeah not a very good web site. No offense.10:02
mvonone taken, it is indeed not great, the biggest problem is that the developer(s) like to develop instead of updating the web-page that is a PR problem :/10:03
sanzanricOf course. Do you know what new feature they have been adding?10:04
mvosanzanric: the latest was fast search (search as you type) that is in intrepid now10:04
mvosanzanric: it searches over the full description, name, summary space10:05
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sanzanricoh, but its seams to be disabled in my current intrepid.10:05
mvosanzanric: could you please try to install apt-xapian-index ? its a helper that should be pulled in automatically, looks like there is a bug somewhere if it is not10:06
sanzanricah, your right! Odd its listed under recommends, maybe that should be changed to suggested?10:07
sanzanricor depends10:08
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mvoyeah, I need to check that. out of curiosity, what features do you miss in synaptic?10:10
sanzanricHm, I probably would first say that somebody really needs to update that "Mark All Updates" Icon.10:11
mvoheh :) if you have a good icon, I'm sure it would be taken!10:11
sanzanricsadly im no artist10:12
sanzanricbut also, although this might require changes in apt, pictures in the descriptions.10:13
sanzanricI would also move the top panel, the one which provides the apply options etc., to the bottom.10:14
sanzanricBecause if someone is reading a description, they shouldn't have to move their mouse form the bottom of the screen to the top10:15
sanzanrici would also redo the interface slightly by have the version number, maintainer, and kinda unimportant information (un)collapsible under neath the package name.10:19
avisdoes intrepid have 3d support for the radeonhd driver and r520gl cards ?  how is it running these days ?11:28
vega--mvo: /win 1211:49
vega--err, did not intend to do that..11:49
vega--mvo: upgrade is running now with 5min remaining, no problems so far.. started 30min ago11:50
vega--mvo: the upgrade procedure went well, itself.. although after boot there were serious problems with graphics12:10
vega--but that's another story12:10
mvovega--: thanks, happy to hear that the upgrade went ok. the kernel in intrepid seems to have issues on some hw, I have seen similar things12:11
vega--went into low graphics mode, and after a little arguing with the display configurator i got it working12:12
vega--it didn't use my old working config from hardy..12:13
vega--also keyboard settings got reset, no more scandinavian characters12:13
mvovega--: what video card do you use? is that a nvidia? or something else?12:25
kallu my display is going off with intrepid default kernel .. whats the problem13:00
jonpackardkallu: what video card are you using?13:06
kallumine is onboard G3313:09
jonpackarddid you upgrade from hardy to intrepid?13:10
kallujonpackard, yeah13:10
jonpackardkallu: checking LP to see if it's been reported ;-)13:12
jonpackardkallu: when you say "going off". what do you mean exactly?13:15
kalluit behaves as if there is no signal .. and hard drives are working13:15
kallujonpackard, some time later x is starting but no kdm and no shell for alt+F113:16
jonpackardkallu: That is strange.. so what do you get once X starts?13:17
kallujonpackard, just a plain screen with totally brown color13:18
jonpackardkallu: and you said Ctrl-Alt-F1 does not do anything?13:18
kalluyup13:19
kalluits a strange problem .. i have seen this bug on launchpad 3 days ago .. but i was unable to find it13:19
jonpackardkallu: do you have the Alpha3 live CD by chance?13:21
kalluhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/24903713:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249037 in usplash "After upgrade, nothing shows up on screen during and after boot" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:22
jonpackardkallu: did you try removing 'splash' from your kernel line? This disables usplash (the fancy loading bar on boot)13:24
kallujonpackard, yeah.. seems usplash is the bad guy here .. i will remove it13:25
jonpackardkallu: it sure seems odd that usplash would cause such a critical problem =X13:27
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murlidhari am not able to go to my desktop. .     i put a tar.gz file in /usr/share/icons using root menu in pcmanfm . it got restarted and i am not able to boot into my desktop also sudo doesn't have any permissions in root . i.e sudo apt-get instal xxxx  doesn't install anything saying sudo has no permission14:45
murlidhargdm too doesn't start14:45
murlidharhow to recover my system using alternate cd /14:46
murlidharthere is an rescue mode , but i am not able to make it out since it seems to be installing the whole system in the drive14:47
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murlidharanyone ?14:49
murlidharanyone ?14:50
mvomurlidhar: can you still boot into the recovery mode in the grub menu ?14:52
mvohm, too impatient it seem14:52
blackpearlwhat happened to tacacs+ on ubuntu, it's not in the repository anymore15:04
wd4lkohow come i only get 2 work spaces with compiz enabled ?15:38
wd4lkoanybody get more then 2 workspaces with compiz enabled ?15:41
Hobbseeuse ccsm15:43
wd4lko ccsm, whats that ?15:46
Hobbseelooks like it's compiz-config-settings-manager, or similar15:46
wd4lkoyep, which one adds more workspaces ?15:48
jonpackardwd4lko: in compizconfig-settings-manager (aka Preferences - Advanced Desktop Effects Settings), go to general options, then desktop size16:02
wd4lkojonpackard: I dont have a "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings" in System>Preferences, how do I get it ?16:15
Piciwd4lko: Are you running Intrepid?16:18
wd4lkoPici : yes16:18
PiciI don't mean to sound rude, but you shouldnt be using the development version if you can't find these simple things by yourself.16:19
Pici!ccsm16:19
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion16:19
wd4lkoI'm using nvidia 173 and I have ccsm but when I enable desktop effects my workspaces go from 4 to 2 and workspace prefs won't change it.16:23
gnomefreakPici: that should have hardy taken out if it16:24
gnomefreaks/if/of16:24
gnomefreakwd4lko: file a bug16:24
Picignomefreak: because?16:24
gnomefreakPici: its the same in intrepid and factoids shouldnt be versioned16:25
Picignomefreak: but not the same in Hardy...16:25
Picier, Gutsy16:25
gnomefreakPici: gutsy doesnt have same packagess16:25
wd4lkomaybe it is a bug, other people on the forum seem to have same prob, Thanks anyway16:26
gnomefreakwd4lko: file a bug16:26
Piciwd4lko: You should be filing bugs if you're using intrepid.16:26
wd4lkoI have Hardy and it works fine, can get upto 16 workspaces, I do file bugs, I thought I missed something.16:28
gnomefreakwd4lko: can you give me abug number for this issue so i can look into it16:29
wd4lkoHavent filed one on this yet, thought it might have been something I over looked.16:30
gnomefreakwd4lko: ok just remember a bug maybe the differnce between bug being fixed or not being fixed so its up to you.16:31
neggeHi. I'm running Intrepid fully updated. Everytime I logout or reboot I have to re-enable desktop effects. How can I fix this? I'm using the "ati" driver16:31
gnomefreaknegge: you cant unless you know your way around and since you are asking that question you dont. file a bug or use hardy. if you havent already noticed you have to shut down 2 times in intrepid to get pc to shut down16:33
neggegnomefreak: chill out, I was just asking if there was an easy fix16:33
neggegnomefreak: how exactly do I file bugs? I've looked at Launchpad a hundred times but it makes no sense16:34
gnomefreakits possible that the shutdown/reboot is not saving settings16:34
gnomefreaknegge: tell me your kidding16:34
neggenot really16:34
gnomefreaknegge: what de?16:35
gnomefreakmake that what DE16:35
negge:D16:36
neggegnomefreak: I'm gonna file one now16:36
neggeI've always just looked at bug reports, never really gotten around to filing one myself before. And so far Intrepid has been working pretty flawlessly for me16:36
gnomefreaknegge: than you are not using anything with it16:37
neggegnomefreak: I'm using it just like I use Hardy16:38
neggetorrenting, listening to music, using pidgin and browsing the Web16:38
gnomefreaknegge: gcc was borked until late last week shutdown still is borked a major breakage with X drivers atleast nvidia but i have heard its other drivers16:39
gnomefreakgnome apps are crashing is another one16:39
aguitelhow mount usb pendrive in intrepid ?16:39
* gnomefreak can rattle them off all day16:39
gnomefreakaguitel: same way you did in hardy16:40
gnomefreakaguitel: hint. insert it16:40
gnomefreakaguitel: it gives you warnings/error but wait long enough16:40
aguitelgnomefreak, is not mounted16:40
gnomefreakaguitel: mine mounts after errors16:40
gnomefreakaguitel: if it doesnt mount file a bug16:41
dfgas8.10 is that broken?16:41
aguitelthe error is:DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found16:41
gnomefreakok really look people this is not the time to be using intrepid if you cant do simple things like file a bug answer what DE your using ect... if you want system that runs and has little bugs use hardy for another month or 216:42
dfgask16:42
gnomefreakdfgas: read topic16:42
gnomefreakaguitel: oh and dbus is borked that is why i get the errors/warning and that goes for yours as well16:42
aguitelgnomefreak, how force mount with console16:43
gnomefreakthanks for remindnig me16:43
gnomefreakaguitel: file a bug, btw force mounting isnt gonna help you16:43
neggegnomefreak: I tried compiling the newest deluge from svn and it seemed to work (didn't manage to get the program running though)... the shutdown bug doesn't bother me that much, sudo reboot reboots instantly and that's what I mostly do (I don't shutdown). The ATI proprietary drivers don't work but the "ati" driver works better than in Hardy for me right now16:43
gnomefreakit seemed to work?16:44
gnomefreakhow did it work if you couldnt get it running?16:44
gnomefreaknegge: and yes i know how to use cli to shutdown but its still a bug and people that cant read bugs or file them need not run alpha software16:45
gnomefreaki suggest everyone read the topic and point out wher eit says this is a support channel for intrepid16:46
gnomefreakwhere it16:46
gnomefreakits too early to support anything with it16:46
neggegnomefreak: atleast it compiled, I don't know if I was missing some dependency or something.16:47
neggegnomefreak: anyway I'm filing a bug about the desktop effects issue now...16:47
wd4lkognomefreak: simple-ccsm did the trick, added desktop colums for choices, Thanks for the help.16:48
gnomefreaknegge: can make any app build/compile depending on what you are doing ut it needs to run16:48
neggeyeah whatever16:48
neggeI didn't bother investigating it16:48
DanielRMWhy did I just join this channel?17:00
DanielRMI may use Intrepid but meh.17:01
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/21750417:31
DanaGargh.17:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 217504 in linux "acpi_fakekey stopped working for certain keycodes" [High,In progress]17:31
bobbyhi, did someone test the usb2.0 issue with the new ibex?17:34
gnomefreakbobby: dbus issue?17:36
gnomefreakgives you dbus errors?17:36
bobbyno, the usb2.0 bug sec seachring bug id17:36
gnomefreakother than that you would have to be alot less general17:36
bobbygnomefreak, well,https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/195762 , that and a bunch of similar problems17:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 195762 in linux "USB Mass Storage Devices not mounting, device not accepting address, error -32" [Undecided,Fix released]17:39
gnomefreakbobby: and ?17:39
bobbywell, i wanted to now if some one tried to use a usb 2.0 device17:40
bobbywithout, that that usb2.0 device gets unmounted17:40
gnomefreakbobby: does it fix it for you?17:41
bobbyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/8874617:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 88746 in linux "ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices" [High,Confirmed]17:41
gnomefreakif not than you either have a different issue or it wasnt fixed for everyone17:41
bobbygnomefreak, i dont know, thats why im asking17:41
gnomefreakbobby: try asking in #ubuntu-bugs17:41
DanaGHere's a USB issue I have: if I try to use bluetooth audio with a bluetooth adapter plugged into a USB 2.0 port.... I get a panic!17:42
gnomefreakbobby: there are more people there17:42
DanaGIf I use a USB 1.1 port............... it doesn't panic, but it still doesn't work.17:42
* gnomefreak goes for smoke hoping someone might think of dbus and than look into it17:43
DanaGworst laptop keyboard evar: http://cgi.ebay.com/keyboard-for-Toshiba-satellite-laptop-2430/2435-M35-M45_W0QQitemZ200234011515QQcmdZViewItem?IMSfp=TL0806241399r6298#ebayphotohosting17:45
DanaGDon't you just love Toshiba?17:46
zbrahead91I get a regular error, btw17:54
zbrahead91Its quite odd17:54
zbrahead91fetching now...17:54
zbrahead91http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/194717:56
gnomefreakzbrahead91: most of time an error without how you get the error is kind of not helpful17:58
zbrahead91It just happens17:58
gnomefreakzbrahead91: during?17:59
gnomefreakzbrahead91: what do you see when it happens?17:59
gnomefreakzbrahead91: anything broken?17:59
BUGabundo_workhi18:00
gnomefreakerror can be harmless as in it doesnt affect anything but for devs it mean something is failing18:00
zbrahead91Nothing breaks18:00
BUGabundo_workdid todays updates mess GDM to anyone else?18:00
zbrahead91It happens during normal usage18:00
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: no gdm updates today18:00
zbrahead91Nope: BUGabundo_work18:00
zbrahead91There was18:00
gnomefreakthat was yesterday18:00
zbrahead91Oh18:00
zbrahead91:P18:00
BUGabundo_workI'm back on a shell as root, and it says "cannot execute /bin/bash: permition denied"18:01
zbrahead91btw18:01
zbrahead91I have about 2 megs of this error in a log file -.-18:01
gnomefreakonly had 2 updates today not counting the one that wants to remove scrollkeeper18:01
BUGabundo_workI haven't got that one yet gnomefreak18:02
BUGabundo_workbut I can't start GDM with my "regular" user18:02
gnomefreakzbrahead91: you can try filing a bug since that error is more for devs than users18:02
BUGabundo_workstartx as root works fine18:02
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: what errors are you getting?18:02
zbrahead91I think it is just my hardware, tbh.18:03
zbrahead91But I dont know what it means :s18:03
BUGabundo_workwell, from grub, without splash, it just gets stuck.... after showing "reading files necessary to boot"18:03
BUGabundo_workif I go to recovery and get to a shell18:03
BUGabundo_worksu bugabundo18:03
BUGabundo_workwill fail with that error message I posted18:04
BUGabundo_workso I can't start X18:04
BUGabundo_workhumm since I got a new kernel18:04
BUGabundo_workmaybe it mess with X or nvidia18:04
BUGabundo_worklet me try a dpkg.-rec Xserver18:04
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: more than likely18:06
BUGabundo_workdid it18:06
BUGabundo_workdidn't fix this18:06
BUGabundo_workit seems that some how18:06
BUGabundo_workmy user can't use bash/dash18:06
BUGabundo_workrebooting18:07
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: thats not gdm18:08
gnomefreakgdm doesnt decide what shell a user uses18:08
BUGabundo_workI know18:08
gnomefreakk18:08
BUGabundo_workbut I first detected that GDM would not start18:09
BUGabundo_worknow I see a all new problem18:09
BUGabundo_workand I'm trying to get to the bottom of it18:09
BUGabundo_workthat's why I'm here18:09
BUGabundo_workif it is a bug, I'll report it18:09
BUGabundo_workif it is some problem of my side, I expect to have support from you guys to help me out18:10
BUGabundo_workthe line: io scheduler cfq registered (default) gets stuck for a while!18:11
BUGabundo_workits been there for more than 30 sec18:11
BUGabundo_workhey there it goes18:11
BUGabundo_work"mkdir: cannot create dir '/lib/modules/--generic/volatile/' readonly file system!!!!18:12
BUGabundo_workbut / is rw18:13
BUGabundo_workany idea gnomefreak zbrahead9118:15
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: you use nvidia drivers?18:16
BUGabundo_workyep18:16
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: upgraded from hardy?18:16
BUGabundo_workfrom alberto18:16
BUGabundo_work1.7318:17
BUGabundo_workI did upgrade, yes18:17
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: but did you install drivers clean?18:17
gnomefreakor did upgrade do that18:17
gnomefreakmakes me think you used envy in hardy and never removed the modules envy built for you18:17
gnomefreakwhen upgrading18:18
BUGabundo_workI did a dist-upgrade before alpha1 come out18:18
gnomefreak173 is looking in one place and you still have modules in another place18:18
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: thats not it than18:18
BUGabundo_workbut my system was fine for the last two weeks18:18
BUGabundo_workwith the new schema drivers18:18
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: anything else you care to tell me?18:18
BUGabundo_workabout ?18:19
BUGabundo_workfeel free to ask18:19
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: boot old kernel see if it works18:19
BUGabundo_workall awnser the best I can18:19
BUGabundo_workno older kernel18:19
BUGabundo_workjust18:19
BUGabundo_work2.6.26-5-gen18:19
gnomefreakif you got it before alpha one you should have 3 r so kernels18:19
DanaGheh, b43 doesn't seem to like Hibernate.18:19
BUGabundo_workand the new option for safe boot18:19
BUGabundo_workthat (dev name here) add18:19
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: if you removed the older kernels that was your first mistake18:20
BUGabundo_workI had 2.6.24.1818:20
BUGabundo_worklet me try the new option18:20
gnomefreakand?18:20
gnomefreakno not yet18:20
gnomefreaksafemode we will use to fix the issue18:20
BUGabundo_workwas it seb ?!18:20
BUGabundo_workcan't remember its name18:20
gnomefreakseb128?18:20
BUGabundo_workahhh I see I still have 2.6.26-418:21
BUGabundo_workI can try that18:21
BUGabundo_workare we going to have another Gutsy melt down and lose TTYs ?18:21
gnomefreakhold on18:21
BUGabundo_workI can't change to tty with vga=77318:21
BUGabundo_workI see a lot of FAIL while booting18:22
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: this is what your grub file should look like if you upgraded before a1 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/50421818:22
BUGabundo_workincluding GDM18:22
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: i suggest with that many issues you reinstall18:22
gnomefreakor go to hardy for a while longer18:22
BUGabundo_worknope18:22
BUGabundo_worknot that grub18:23
BUGabundo_work2.6.26.5 and .418:23
BUGabundo_workand "last succefull boot"18:23
gnomefreaki upgraded less than 3 days after intrepid repos opened18:23
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: thats normal18:23
gnomefreakeveryone has that18:23
gnomefreakit doesnt affect anything that you would see18:23
BUGabundo_workand a coule more for recovery and INETBOOT18:23
BUGabundo_work2.6.26-4 failed to boot18:24
BUGabundo_workwhere should I remove old nvidia modules?18:24
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: the envy script didnt allow that but its fairly late now since it built another set of them not real sure if envy overwrites the old modules18:25
gnomefreakif you havent already noticed the new nvidia drivers use envy to get set up18:26
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: but its looking like alot more than just driver issues18:26
BUGabundo_workI guess gnomefreak18:26
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: you need to find out what is wrong with one thing at a time. this is where you would file a bug and continue to work on it if you like18:27
BUGabundo_workdrivers shouldn't make me unable to login to a shell18:27
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: gdm kernel ect...18:27
BUGabundo_workI did install x-lite3 today18:27
gnomefreakmany differnet issues18:27
BUGabundo_workhumm could that have messed my system?18:27
gnomefreakwell start with that?18:27
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: hmmmm yes18:27
gnomefreakif X means xserver18:27
gnomefreakim assuming it does18:27
BUGabundo_workthere aren't all that many issues18:27
BUGabundo_workI just have ONE18:28
BUGabundo_workcan't login....18:28
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: i have seen more than 318:28
gnomefreakthats alot of issues18:28
BUGabundo_workno.. x-lite is a VoIP propietary software18:28
gnomefreakthey may all be related to one issue but no way to know without dealing with one at a time18:28
BUGabundo_workwe are having VoIP probs here, and I instaled it to test the network18:28
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: try removing it and rebooting18:28
BUGabundo_workalready did it18:29
gnomefreakyou can always install it again18:29
BUGabundo_workit was a binary18:29
BUGabundo_workI removed it from /var/opt18:29
BUGabundo_workif that dumb thing messes my system I'll never use iot again18:29
BUGabundo_worklol18:29
BUGabundo_workproprietary sucks18:29
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Kahuna0789Hi everyone. Is anyone else having trouble with the 8.04 ISO? Iv tried to install the server and home editions and both off them display an error something like "bad checksum for device 1 (0x89)"... any ideas?18:33
BUGabundo_workhumm bad burner, Kahuna0789 ?18:34
BUGabundo_workdid md5 of the dowloaded iso check out?18:34
Kahuna0789iv tried 3 burned coppies and also tried installing it directly from the iso to a virtual environment18:35
BUGabundo_workdid md5 of the dowloaded iso check out?18:35
Kahuna0789from 3 seperate downloads18:35
BUGabundo_workagain18:35
BUGabundo_workdid md5 of the dowloaded iso check out?18:35
BUGabundo_workfrom what mirror did you downloaded?18:35
Kahuna0789MIT Georgia... and i forgot the last one18:36
BUGabundo_workgnomefreak: starting X as root I get to gnome, but when I try to get to User and Groups I get a nerror18:36
BUGabundo_workso that may be what caused my system to lock me out18:36
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: thats not noramlly a good idea18:36
Kahuna0789is there a sum for all of the files in the iso or do you have to check each file?18:37
gnomefreaki still think ther eis a hidden issue18:37
BUGabundo_workKahuna0789: humm what download manager did you use?18:37
BUGabundo_workKahuna0789: there is one inside the ISO18:37
Kahuna0789i just downloaded it with firefox18:37
BUGabundo_workjust mount it  and do md5sum -c md5.........18:37
Kahuna0789il try that18:38
Kahuna0789thanks18:38
BUGabundo_workKahuna0789: mount -o loop /ubuntu.iso /mnt/iso18:38
BUGabundo_workor something like that18:38
BUGabundo_workdon't forget sudo lol18:38
Kahuna0789im running it from windows lol but i get the point18:39
BUGabundo_workgnomefreak: what's not a good idea?18:39
BUGabundo_workstartx as root?18:39
BUGabundo_workhumm18:39
BUGabundo_workfrom windows, just us imgburn18:39
BUGabundo_workit will do it for you18:39
DanaGMy next laptop will have Intel AMT; I'll be able to boot from an ISO over the network.18:39
BUGabundo_workDanaG: I do that with inetboot18:40
BUGabundo_workI test ibex dailies or fedora just like that18:40
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: i cant right now im dealing with something18:40
BUGabundo_workdanag http://openlab.jp/oscircular/inetboot/18:40
BUGabundo_workgnomefreak: humm let me guess PAM update... it seems a nice culprid18:42
BUGabundo_workis steve langasek here?!!?18:43
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: that is very likely18:43
BUGabundo_workhe is the mantainer of PAM18:43
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: not in here18:43
BUGabundo_workI'll just open a bug18:44
BUGabundo_worklet see if he comments in it18:44
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: developers dont nomrally hang out in here some do but most dont you will find him in #ubuntu-motu18:44
gnomefreakbut he may be working on it if it is pam18:44
gnomefreakBUGabundo_work: just a quick word you might want to look into it more sice you are only one seeing it18:48
askandIs it tru that openjdk wil be default in intrepid?19:39
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jpds /1720:45
SSDis ext4 in intrepid?20:50
SSDis ext4 in interpid?20:51
dooleyWhen I am using the old 2.6.24 kernel I experience no problems. However, when I use the new 2.6.26 kernel in 8.10a3, my SATA disks makes strange scary noises20:55
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Volkodavis there barry for 64 bit ?23:22
aguitelbarry?23:22
Volkodavyeah23:23
aguitelwhat is this23:23
Volkodavsync tool for Blackberry23:24
aguitelhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66178523:24
aguitelVolkodav, see link23:25
Volkodavthanks23:25

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