=== elkbuntu is now known as elky [00:26] * NCommander just got the best/worst junk mail ever [00:27] I just got a letter from my own fire department asking for donations [00:29] The worst part? It's addressed to "Firefighter Michael Casadevall" [00:29] I dunno what ti make of it, but I think I'm going to stick it on the bulletin board with a note "Check your mailing list" === ember_ is now known as ember [01:33] Laney: I am really busy right now. So please go ahead and work on glom. Thanks. [01:54] Hi all... can you take a look at bug 252793 [01:54] Launchpad bug 252793 in xulrunner-1.9 "xulrunner should not be executable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/252793 [02:10] * ApOgEE- away pi opis [03:45] doko: ping [05:41] I'm working on packaging python-django. Should I submit patches to Debian first? or to Ubuntu first? [05:42] eddyMul: We already have Django in the archive... [05:42] wgrant: yes. I'm working on updating it to 1.0 alpha [05:42] eddyMul: Have you discussed this with the Debian maintainer? They're probably doing the same thing... [05:43] wgrant: discuss: they suggest that I file a bug [05:43] I don't know what the "topic"/"subject" of the bug should be [05:43] is it... "drive towards python-django-1.0"? [05:44] 'New upstream version available' is often used. [05:44] ah [05:45] so in my case, I'll submit@bugs.debian.org with "python-django: New upstream version 1.0 alpha available'? [05:45] (well, actually, it's not straight 1.0 alpha, but a continuous "tracking" of the SVN tree...) [05:45] Something like that. [05:47] wgrant: should I (install and) use reportbug? reportbug-ng? or plain old email should do? [05:48] eddyMul: A normal email client works fine. [05:48] wgrant: great. will do! [05:57] Where can i read about the policy regarding updating of new package versions for ubuntu+1. Some bug requests for new upsteam versions are asking for a dev version and not always the stable. Is this allowed / normal? What happens if a package has a 'stable' dev version that has been out for some time? [06:05] is this the channel for coders ? [06:06] foxbuntu, coders are accepted... but not everybody here is coders [06:07] foxbuntu, this is the channel for MOTU https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [06:07] ApOgEE-, tab once more ;) [06:07] usually, packager [06:08] foxbuntu, are you coders? [06:08] well I wasn't asking if everyone was a coder, just asking about contributing to open source [06:09] ApOgEE-, are you asking me or are you intending to ask foxjazz? [06:11] foxbuntu who would I ask about coding stuff for ubuntu? [06:11] sorry [06:11] sorry foxbuntu [06:12] just a quick tab [06:12] ApOgEE-, no problem [06:12] i'm tabbing so much [06:12] foxbuntu, coding what in ubuntu foxjazz ? [06:13] good question [06:13] foxjazz, are you coder? [06:13] I mostly use c# for work [06:13] use to do c++ [06:13] foxjazz, are you looking for an IDE? [06:14] well that would be a good start huh [06:14] I personally use geany [06:14] works pretty well [06:14] very good... I don't have any projects atm, but would like to get involved. [06:15] foxbuntu, i wonder which IDE was used to develop OpenOffice.org [06:16] :D [06:16] they did taht with vi [06:16] only vi? [06:17] What makes you think they used an IDE? [06:17] I have installed ubuntu in the last couple of years 4 or 5 times. [06:17] I currently use glade, but still searching for other IDE [06:17] maybe I'll try geany [06:17] well why don't we just code geany to fit our special wants [06:18] ApOgEE-, geany is quite nice [06:18] foxjazz, you could always come pickup some work on the Mythbuntu team! [06:18] foxjazz, we have tons of stuff to do [06:18] lol [06:19] is that a myth? [06:19] foxbuntu, is it able to design GUI in thet IDE? [06:19] ApOgEE-, no thats glade [06:19] hmm... that's the one that i ask [06:19] ApOgEE-, you could do it in geany but it would be much for difficult than glade [06:20] for the text editor, I currently use gedit... lol [06:20] foxbuntu, yes...its MythTV + Ubuntu [06:20] foxjazz, ^ [06:20] foxjazz, www.mythbuntu.org [06:21] ApOgEE-, for all your backend code for the GUI apps (scripts and such) geany is very nice [06:21] foxbuntu, thanks... Installing now [06:22] ApOgEE-, no problem [06:22] foxbuntu, is it possible to debug inside it? [06:23] ApOgEE-, i believe so [06:24] yea, I am going to install ubuntu on my wife's old computer [06:24] right now using vmware on 64bit vista [06:25] can anyone explain why apt-cache policy wine gives me wine1.0 while apt-cache show gives me wine 0.95? [06:25] huhuh.. i still got xp in my virtualbox but i haven't boot it for such a long time now [06:25] yea, I play wwii online on this machine, nothign beats it [06:26] itai-michaelson: wine 1.0 is in hardy-updates and you've not installed the updates yet? [06:26] foxjazz, cool [06:26] nothing like shooting down a 110 over a forward base [06:27] ok, ubuntu needs to stop doing that [06:27] why the hell does the install packager set focuse on the screen when I am typing here [06:27] it's quite annoying [06:28] * imbrandon waves to StevenK [06:28] * StevenK waves to imbrandon. Long time. [06:29] yea, had to "get away from it all" for a bit, but mod_security and eclipse seem to have brought me back [06:29] none seems to be keeping them uptodate :) [06:30] imbrandon: We were saving them for you [06:30] so instead of whinge i figured i'd update them , heh [06:30] foxbuntu !!! what is mythbuntu? [06:30] mythbuntu.org iirc [06:30] yea, looking at that already [06:31] foxjazz, a sub Distro of Ubuntu with MythTV Intergrated [06:31] foxjazz, ^ [06:31] I see [06:31] foxjazz, MythTV is PVR software, kinda like TIVO but much better [06:31] yea I use the comcast stuff atm [06:31] s/better/diffrent [06:32] How can you record stuff from cable? [06:32] imbrandon, ok...let me quantify that... [06:32] more feature rich [06:32] foxbuntu: witha tv ccard [06:33] foxjazz, ^ [06:33] foxbuntu: :) yea overkill for the job IMHO but thats just me /me prefers XBMC > * [06:33] doh wrong fox, foxjazz : with a tv card [06:34] so you use a tv card to record stuff from cable? how woud it make sense in comcast situation [06:34] foxjazz, I use cable TV [06:34] imbrandon: Yes, but you're a heathen [06:34] StevenK, +1 lol [06:34] I mean I have a digital box that has 2 receivers that handles recording in the box [06:34] foxjazz: depends on your setup, could be as easy as putting the coax on the computer vs the cable box [06:34] no, it's not it's digital [06:35] foxjazz, yes, you use the TV outputs into a TV card on the PC [06:35] so you make it change channel? [06:35] for recording? [06:35] and then hope you don't have anything programmed on the dvr? [06:35] foxjazz, yes, ir blasters or serial cable depending on your STB hardware [06:35] foxbuntu: i said "could" in your case to get the same functionality you would need 2 tv cards , an ir send/rec to relay the remote info to the comcast box and still use a non-dvr digital comcast box between the coax and the tv [06:35] that will take affect. [06:36] foxjazz, you wouldnt use the DVR from comcast anymore [06:36] foxjazz, MythTV is a replacement to that [06:37] a replacement for "part" of that, he would still need a comcast box to get the digital channels [06:37] e.g. above 70 iirc [06:37] right [06:37] I am wondering how many knives my wife would stab me with before it's over [06:37] foxjazz, Mythbuntu is a pretty good distro for it making things easy [06:38] * foxbuntu is about to insert an advertising moment [06:38] foxjazz, ...or you could get one from this great online store ready to go, when they open up soon... www.foxmediasystems.com [06:38] foxjazz: honestly you'll spend aobout $300 USD on the hardware min then about 2 days of hooking it up / learning the software and you only gain 2 advantages ( abet big ones ) #1 full OSS software #2 you can freely move your recordings to .mpeg / dvd / vcd etc etc etc [06:39] imbrandon, thats cutting things short a bit [06:39] I have the computer hardware already [06:39] automatic commercial skipping [06:39] I like the automatic commercial skipping, vs the stupid dvr box [06:39] media playback (dvd/music/video/internet radio/ect ect) [06:40] unlimited expandability [06:40] foxjazz: you have two myth compatable TV cards and the IR send/rec relay + remote ? [06:40] yes I undersand the media playback stuff. And all that. [06:41] Basically I would need the tv card... and I should be good to go. [06:42] thanks foxbuntu ... have to split for sleep [06:42] foxjazz, the HDHomeRun is great for ATSC/QAM stuff [06:42] foxjazz, no problem [06:42] later [06:42] k later [06:44] StevenK, sorry ,took so long to answer, no i havent updated yet, so apt-cache show gives me the pre-updated version? [06:44] itai-michaelson: apt-cache show should actually show both versions. [06:45] StevenK, let me check. [06:45] you are correct, i understand [06:46] thanks [07:00] foxbuntu, I've tested geany. it's great!! [07:02] ApOgEE-, yeah..its pretty good [07:04] foxbuntu, yeah... i compile and build without makefile.... hehe [07:05] foxbuntu, do you know any good tutorial on geany? [07:06] ApOgEE-, nope, sorry [07:06] foxbuntu, nevermind... thanks anyway [07:07] i'm still figuring out on the suggestion features === RAOF is now known as ROAF [08:16] can someone from motu-sru please look at bug #241402 (and ACK it)? [08:16] Launchpad bug 241402 in mythbuntu/8.10 "Mythbuntu control center VNC setup freezes if & in password" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241402 [09:16] morning everyone [09:16] bug #245633 [09:16] Launchpad bug 245633 in bzr-gtk "Menu entry title in Olive desktop file should be "Bazaar Version Control"" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245633 === ROAF is now known as RAOF [10:13] \sh: sad to see you stepping down from motu-sru. glad to see you staying to work on the rest :) [10:16] <\sh> laga: yes...as the time allows, I'll do my normal motu work :) but SRU is too important, and having one guy with no or less time is much more bad then having a new guy with time [10:18] yeah. motu-sru seems a little slow at the moment [10:19] motu-sru seems a little absent at the moment. [10:19] oh, is there a sprint? [10:22] laga: No, there's just almost nobody left. [10:22] ah, that explains a few things. [10:24] "5 active members" - but one of them is still sh ;) [10:28] geser: I have downloaded jboss 4.2.3 source yesterday. It looks like the Debian packaging split all the source in different packages which might not be necessary. And the same seems to be reason behind circular build dependencies. I will try building 4.2.3 in next few days. Let us see what happens. [10:28] i'll probably write to the motu mailing list to get my SRU ack'ed then [10:48] what is the best/usual way to get my packages reviewed and advocated? I need a couple of reviews and 2 advocates [10:50] REVU [10:51] probably... for a start... [10:53] pmjdebruijn: it's out there already, didn't I mention getting reviews? (that's only possible when it's already reviewable in REVU) [10:55] sorry === thekorn is now known as thekorn_ [11:01] SWAT: the best way is having patience. :-) [11:03] I've uploaded a new version of my package "Webstrict" (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=webstrict) but I don't see it... could someone see what's wrong? [11:12] slytherin: I have lots of it, but I just do not want to be 'forgotton' or get bit-rot. I do not know exactly what happens with packages in REVU which have 0 comments and 0 advocates for example. What is the best course of action? [11:13] SWAT: when did you upload it? [11:14] slytherin: 5 days ago [11:15] SWAT: I think this is low traffic time currently. You may find someone to review it after 3-4 hours [11:16] slytherin: any tips on getting reviewers/advocates? Is sending an e-mail to the motu list the best thing to do? [11:17] q: when I edit the REVU packages (because of comments), do I need to increase my version number or just change the packages use the same version number as before and upload the packages to REVU again? [11:18] SWAT: No need to increase version number. Just do 'dput -f *.changes'. It will be good if you can add comments on revu telling what all has changed. [11:26] slytherin: ok thanks. The mail to the motu list is a good idea? [11:26] SWAT: not really because we will then be flodded by such mails. [11:28] so what can I do (or anyone else for that matter) to actually get reviews/advocates? Or do I need to sit in the corner for the next 2 weeks and then look if it has been approved? [11:30] SWAT: mostly that. :-) [11:31] SWAT: and keep watch on revu to see if there is any comment. [11:31] slytherin: ok, thanks. I will do that. I'll also keep it in mind for the next time. [11:31] SWAT: as most rooms have only 4 corners, and there are more than 4 people waiting for reviews/advocates... you technically won't be sitting there alone :p [11:32] * pmjdebruijn runs and hides [11:34] Does rmadison work for you for Debian packages? [11:36] Anyone running a debian system virtualized in vbox or kvm? Any issues? Does it replicate the environment correctly for most tasks? I would like to run a debian system to just test functionality / version differences between ubuntu / deb for packaging purposes... [11:37] stefanlsd: It should work fine. [11:39] stefanlsd: for most packages, a chroot will probably be sufficient, and easily be built using debootstrap [11:40] stefanlsd: why wouldn't vbox/kvm not replicated the system? it's full virtualization, good replication is the whole point [11:42] RainCT: besides that it's outdated? [11:43] geser: okay, so it's not only me :P [11:45] RainCT: have you tried asking in #debian-devel on oftc already? [11:49] 12:48:43 RainCT: < 12h normally, but it's broken at the moment [11:49] 12:49:09 RainCT: Not long usually, Ganneff is already taking a look into the issue though, it's broken since apparently friday or saturday. [11:51] broonie, pmjdebruijn - thanks. answers the question. I like the idea of vbox or so to make snapshots before i install something and mess it up. Else yeah, might go the chroot option [12:10] apachelogger: don't like our country anymore? :P [12:10] sebner: ? [12:11] apachelogger: ~chan~ [12:31] slytherin: I've looked at the libjboss-microcontroller-java <-> libjboss-aop-java build-dep cycle: does http://paste.ubuntu.com/32165/ looks sane to you to break the cycle? === ogra_ is now known as ogra [13:02] doko: ping [13:02] AnAnt: ? [13:03] doko: regarding the bug 249158 [13:03] Launchpad bug 249158 in ubuntu "Please sync swt-gtk 3.4-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249158 [13:04] doko: Martin Pitt mentioned something about eclipse, and your name was in it [13:05] [BLACKLISTED] swt-gtk_0 swt-gtk # doko, superseded by eclipse [13:05] eclipse is still at 3.2 (even on Debian), and swt-gtk is at 3.4 on Debian [13:06] I don't mind, we'll have to readjust the conflicts once a eclipse-3.4 is available as a package [13:07] doko: can you mention this in the bug report? [13:10] doko: Hello ? [13:16] AnAnt: replied [13:22] geser: Looks ok. but can you give me few days to evaluate how jboss 4.2.3 works out. I want to see if it is can be built without the source split. Frankly I don't know why they have split the source in differene packages. [13:24] slytherin: sure, but wouldn't that mean we have to maintain jboss for a long time as we can't use the Debian pacakges anymore? [13:24] geser: Of course I may be wrong and need to look in details. Will take 1-2 days [13:26] ok, will wait till monday with continueing trying to "bootstrap" all jboss packages [13:44] geser: Please go head with your fix. Looks like circular dependency is upstream problem and it will take more time to investigate. By continuing what we are doing we will be out of deadlock soon. [13:44] good [14:09] Hi. I would like to try the new empathy on AMD64 but the build log shows a failure: Could not create directory /buildd : Permission denied [14:09] Is this a common problem with builds? Something that can be fixed easily, anything I can do about it? [14:14] my guess would be a packaging error [14:23] bmm: is latest empathy not available in backports? [14:23] geser: the i386 version was packaged and correct. [14:23] Anybody knows why 'http://sf.net/salasaga/salasaga-([0-9]+\.[0-9]*[02468])\.tar\.bz2' doesn't work? [14:23] slytherin: not really sure, let me check.... [14:24] Iulian: do you really need that bug expression? [14:25] slytherin: Bug expression? [14:25] slytherin: not according to packages.ubuntu.com, .23 is in intrepid and .22 is in hardy, nothing in backports [14:26] slytherin: I'd like to avoid dev versions which are odd numbered [14:27] slytherin: Dev versions are 0.7.x, 0.9.x, 1.1.x and stable 0.8.x, 1.0.x, 1.2.x [14:29] Iulian: s/bug/big [14:30] bmm: then which version do you want? AFAIK, 0.23 is latest [14:30] Iluian: don't forget the alpha [14:30] slytherin: yes 0.23 is the latest and build find on i386, but the AMD64 version doesn't build and the buildlog shows a failure I mentioned earlier. [14:31] slytherin: I hope to get it working and because it does work on i386 I though it might be a common problem that maybe I could help with. [14:31] http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/empathy [14:31] bmm: any link to build log? [14:32] slytherin: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/0.23.3-1ubuntu1/+build/642825 [14:32] bmm: Any idea how to do that? [14:32] Iulian: does this work for you - http://sf.net/medit/mooedit-(.*)\.tar\.bz2 [14:32] doko: thanks [14:33] I'm not sure if calling scrollkeeper-update during build in normal/usefull, try asking that in #ubuntu-desktop [14:33] Iulian: nope, but you might use something like "no number (to stop versions) and then anything": [^0-9].+ [14:33] slytherin: If I do that, it will not avoid development versions. [14:34] geser: But then it should have failed on i386 also [14:37] but you are right, scrollkeeper update should go in post install [14:42] how can you make sure a package will work on 'fresh' machines? [14:43] kdubois: what do you mean? [14:43] as in, how can i make sure my package will work on pretty much any machine someone tries to install it on? [14:43] is there any tests i can do to that effect? [14:45] slytherin: I have no idea what I'm talking about, but matching up the logs the actual problem might be that the i386 build machine is missing some files. The i386 machine has a "Cannot stat file: ///usr/share/gnome/help/empathy/C/empathy.xml : No such file or directory" before the place where the amd64 fails [14:46] So maybe because the amd64 has those files (it doesn't have the same error) it then goes on to try to create the directory and fails while i386 build keeps going [14:46] bmm: that itself is a problem then. [14:46] bmm: I have that problem when building empathy on ibex 386 [14:46] the fix is installing scrollkeeper [14:46] which should have been replaced by something else now [14:46] btw.. I was comparing: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15662715/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.empathy_0.23.3-1ubuntu1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz and http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16372360/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.empathy_0.23.3-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [14:46] kdubois: as long as dependencies are correct, there shouldn't be any problem. [14:46] bmm: on hardy it works [14:47] thanks slytherin, i guess it was a bit of a paranoid question anyways [14:47] I suppose this is a bug with ibex's rarian-compat since that's the replace for scrollkeeper [14:49] Zdra: just to be sure we are talking about the same, I was comparing i386 ibex and amd64 ibex builds, so how can the dependency be a problem? [14:50] evening [14:51] I'm trying to fix arch-dep-package-has-big-usr-share. I have created a -common package (http://iulian.devzero.co.uk/tmp/control) but how do I move all files from /usr/share to this package? [14:52] These are the contents of my -common package: http://iulian.devzero.co.uk/tmp/contents [14:52] It should move all files from /usr/share to that package. Am I missing something? [14:54] bmm: when compiling empathy (from upstream, not packaging) on my ibex 32bits I get that error: http://pastebin.be/13077 [14:54] on hardy 64bits it works [14:54] Iulian> Are you using CDBS or just debhelper? [14:54] If I install scrollkeeper it works on ibex [14:55] LucidFox: dh [14:55] scrollkeeper get replaced by rarian => that's a bug in ibex's version of rarian [14:55] Iulian> Then you should install your files to debian/tmp and use debian/*.install files and dh_install to move the files for each package [14:56] Zdra: weird, the log for i386 shows the installation just running over that problem and continuing. Still, can't compete with a new test as the build logs are probably just old. Do you want me to file a scollkeeper to rarian bug in launchpad? [14:56] LucidFox: Ah-ha, thanks. [14:57] LucidFox: when using debian/*.install, the files should go in debian/ right? [14:58] slytherin> Yes [14:58] LucidFox: you told him to use debian/tmp [14:58] bmm: yes, there is obviously a bug to fill somewhere :) [14:59] Zdra: k, on it. Thank you for the help! [15:00] slytherin> eh [15:00] well [15:00] bmm: thank for filling bugs :D [15:00] dh_install moves files to debian/ [15:00] and it's used to move files _from_ debian/tmp [15:00] np [15:01] so if he's splitting a package into two, he should install to debian/tmp and then use install files to move the files from there for each package [15:01] http://blonde-dude.net/forum/index.php [15:02] slytherin> I don't know if my voice counts or only council voices do, but I've posted a +1 for your Ubuntu Contributing Developers application [15:03] LucidFox: Thanks. Of course sponsors voice counts. [15:09] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/libjna-java-0807301410/libjna-java-3.0.4/debian/changelog <-- A Russian girl working at Sun? o_O [15:12] LucidFox: what's so strange about that? [15:15] james_w> Nothing, except that it breaks, like, five Russian stereotypes at once :p [15:16] Just filed #253295 about the build problems with empathy mentioned earlier. Thanks for the help all. [15:23] hi. if there is a new upstream release, which is not packaged in Debian and the debian maintainers seemed to be not so active what do you think is the best way to rsolve the issue? Package it for ubuntu or rise a bug in Debian and wait for sometime until the maintainers get back to you? [15:24] or rise a bug in LP and wait [15:24] tuxmaniac: there's nothing stopping you from doing both at the same time [15:24] ? [15:24] you can package a new upstream for Ubuntu, and file a bug in Debian requesting that they update, and point to your package if the update isn't simply changing the version number [15:25] james_w: no. LAst time I got flamed for trying to package a software in debian for which I was upstream. there was some misunderstanding that I was trying to hijack the package. So didnt want to repeat something similar here. So asked for advice. [15:26] there's no harm in filing a bug in Debian [15:28] james_w: thanks [15:52] What if there is a new package in Debian and it is not present in Ubuntu until date. Is that enough if I rise a sync request? or is there some other procedure? [15:53] Debian unstable I mean [15:53] tuxmaniac: just a simple sync request [15:54] geser: thanks [15:57] LucidFox: Hmm, how do I dh_install the files? I need to install all files from /usr/share to the -common package. I have create a .install file which contains debian/tmp/usr/share/* but don't know how to use dh_install. [15:57] perhaps also add a small rationale why it should get added now if you need sponsoring [15:58] yeah I am adding that. geser is it necessary (essential) to check whether it builds under interpid pbuilder before rising such a request? [15:58] intrepid [16:00] hmm LaserJock is debian uploader for that. [16:00] tuxmaniac: sure, I only sponsor sync request that build in intrepid [16:00] Iulian> Is dh_install called in your debian/rules file already? [16:00] why should we sync something that doesn't build in intrepid? [16:01] Iulian> By the way, the install file for the common package should be named debian/[packagename]-common.install [16:02] LucidFox: I didn't call dh_install. All I have to do is call 'dh_install' ? [16:03] LucidFox: Well, I only call it when I have to install some file to a specific dir. [16:03] LucidFox: Oh and yes, I called it twice but not for the -common package. [16:04] Iulian> yes, you call dh_install without parameters [16:05] and calling dh_install with parameters isn't good, you should move such calls to your *.install files [16:06] LucidFox: Ohh, that explains it. [16:06] LucidFox: Thanks [16:08] geser: LucidFox: An update to 'electric' pending for long time. And you are the only java experts here. Can anyone of you find time today? [16:09] slytherin: thanks for that :-) [16:09] slytherin> Bug link? [16:09] tuxmaniac: I am hoping that once it is updated in Ubuntu I can make a call for adoption in D-Java list [16:10] slytherin: I am ready to take it up. though I dont know much of Java, I am very interested in that package [16:10] LucidFox: bug 242720 [16:10] Launchpad bug 242720 in electric "[New Upstream Release] Electric has released 8.06" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/242720 [16:10] slytherin: don't exaggerate :) I'm not a java expert [16:11] geser: Well, the problem is that I am not a MOTU yet. :-P [16:11] doko> So I guess openjdk is now preferred to gcj for building packages? [16:12] slytherin: btw, did you succeed in making it build under gcj? [16:12] tuxmaniac: nope [16:13] tuxmaniac: looks like gcj problem. [16:13] geser: FYI ... lucene2 still fails to build with GCJ. The unit test failure is same. Do you think we should report bug in GCJ? I heard OOo 3 is going to make use of GCJ. [16:14] LucidFox: Why not try building with GCJ? [16:15] I mean GCJ, openjdk, Sun jdk should be sequence [16:16] slytherin> doko posted on ubuntu-devel-announce that it's now preferable to depend on default-jdk [16:17] LucidFox: yes that I know. default-jdk in turn depends on GCJ for most arch. [16:17] Does it? [16:17] "Recently Openjdk6 was promoted to main; with today's upload of java-common, OpenJDK6 is the default java runtime / development kit in main, on all architectures." [16:22] LucidFox: Oh, I didn't read that. [16:23] geser: pakcage builds under intrepid pbuilder. Rising the request now [16:25] if someone has time please sponsor package for bug 253324. thanks in advance [16:25] Launchpad bug 253324 in ubuntu "[sync request] Avagadro Sync from debian unstable 0.8.1-4 version." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253324 [16:34] anyone from ubuntu motu-sru here? [16:35] http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-mentors@lists.debian.org/msg57295.html tells me to not ship BitstreamVera but depend on it. I added ttf-bitstream-vera to Depends and created a patch which removes the fonts/ directory. Isn't it the right way for doing this? [16:35] * Iulian feels confused [16:35] ivoks: motu-sru seems to be awol [16:36] :) ok [16:38] Iulian: can you do it this way if possible. The package must be including fonts directory form somewhere like in debian/*install. So simply remove it. [16:38] tuxmaniac: what is avagadro about? [16:40] slytherin: straight from the name. Molecules, atoms etc. [16:40] :-) [16:40] slytherin: Vincent told to not ship BitstreamVera, that confuses me. [16:40] Iulian: which package is it? [16:40] I thought adding ttf-bitstream-vera to depends will fix it. [16:41] slytherin: salasaga [16:41] Iulian: I mean the fonts from source will go in the package only if you specify somewhere to include it. So instead of writing a patch to delete directory, do not include the fonts [16:42] slytherin: Oh, will think after supper how to do that. [16:42] tuxmaniac: right, avagadro sounded familiar but was not able to remember the context. [16:42] damn, I loved chemistry. [16:43] slytherin: how can you forget the great Avogadro number. [16:43] Iulian: you could also patch the Makefile to not install them or rm them after make install again from debian/tmp/... [16:44] tuxmaniac: I forgot many things form school. I was expert in maths and chemistry and now I don't remember half the things. [16:44] Iulian: which way you choose it's up to you as long as the fonts don't get included in the binary deb [16:44] slytherin: why does our gnusim8085 still having local changes on Ubuntu? I think it can be directly merged from Debian. Do you know any reasons? === RoAk is now known as RoAkSoAx [17:01] tuxmaniac: sorry, I was away. See if all the patches in Ubuntu have been merged in Debian. If yes then sync otherwise merge [17:14] Heya gang [17:17] geser: Will try to patch the Makefile [17:17] Hi bddebian. [17:17] Hello Iulian [17:17] hellooo [17:31] Hi bddebian [17:32] Heya geser [17:32] hi Barry [17:36] Heya LaserJock, how have you been? [17:36] sorry gotta run [17:36] bddebian: bug good [17:48] bddebian: heya [17:49] Hi tuxmaniac [17:53] how come ubuntu runs sooo slow on vmware [17:56] foxjazz, use jesus os [17:56] err jeos [17:56] poningru: lol [17:56] ;) [17:56] poningru: I thought that was called Ubuntu CE ;-) [17:57] naah its obviously the MID edition [17:57] or whatever the mobile edition is called [17:57] you know compete with the jesus phone [17:57] you gotta have the jesus os [17:57] heh [17:58]