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yuriyanybody have a bluetooth mouse working on Intrepid?00:17
MRcheeseis ext4 compiled into the kernel?00:55
crimsunno.00:55
MRcheesewhen will they add it00:58
crimsunno idea.  perhaps when the on-disk format has stabilised.00:59
crimsundefinitely not before then without financial motivation.00:59
G_0092.6.26-5 in stores now!00:59
jbroomei'm waiting for RAID ponies00:59
crimsunI've got your raid pony /right here/00:59
crimsunerr00:59
jbroomeactually, that'd be RAIP and that's just rude01:00
MRcheeseoh well i will continue to use JFS then01:00
MRcheesecould alpha 3 destory a partition?01:02
crimsunmost certainly.01:03
crimsun1) you tell it to delete a partition01:03
crimsun3) profit01:03
MRcheesenm that was a dumb q01:05
jbroomei have become detoyer of worlds01:06
MRcheesehaha too bad no one knows about jfs01:07
crimsuneh?01:08
crimsunlots of people do, most importantly the guys at IBM.01:08
MRcheeseuses i meant01:09
MRcheeseIts a great FS01:09
crimsunI do01:10
crimsunI used to lug around four or five usb mass storage devices.  At least a couple used JFS.01:10
MRcheeseall i got to do is resize my 20GB ext3 partition to around 10GB and make a JFS partition for intrepid testing01:12
G_009distro destoyer is back01:12
MRcheeseext3 is a HUGE PIG01:13
Sergeant_Ponyanyone know if there is a way to tame down the system tracker so it doesn't use 14 gig of hd space to index files?01:14
MRcheeseLOL ext3 uses close to 12GB on my filesystem for inodes01:14
Sergeant_Pony14 gig seems excessive to me01:15
Sergeant_Ponyespecially for a laptop01:15
G_009wow, folks still having issues with bug 20359301:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 203593 in ubuntu "sudo: unable to resolve host HOSTNAME (dup-of: 32906)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20359301:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 32906 in sudo "sudo fails if it cannot resolve the local hostname and no MTA is installed" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3290601:16
G_009even though i have not seen it really happening on 8.10 it is common occurence for many 8.04 users01:17
Sergeant_Ponyhappened here... fixed it myself01:17
crimsunI'm pretty sure that has already been addressed in -updates01:18
Sergeant_Ponyhi crimsun01:18
crimsun'lo01:18
MRcheesehow would i convince the ubuntu devs to update a package to a more up to date package?01:56
MRcheeseor where would i?01:57
coz_MRcheese,  begging might help  .......just kidding :)01:57
MRcheesehmm its a filesystem util01:57
coz_MRcheese,  well this is as good a place as any or on the mailing list   you would probably need to give valid reasons and of course they will have reasons why they cant if that is thecase01:58
PiciMRcheese: file a bug against that package, the folks in #ubuntu-motu may be able to give you some insight as to what information they'd need to see in the bug report01:59
MRcheesek got to reboot though brb01:59
tretlehow do I get rid of the display resolution applet from the panel?02:04
RAOFtretle: By waiting until the upstream bug has been fixed, I think.02:05
tretle:)02:05
RAOFYou could kill gnome-settings-daemon, I suppose.02:05
crdlbexcellent idea02:05
tretleno quick fix then?02:05
RAOFThat's likely to have unwanted side-effects, though.  Like your desktop breaking and looking like arse.02:05
RAOFtretle: No.  No quick fix.02:05
tretlecool02:06
RAOFWell, you could patch it out & rebuild.  That'd be quick :)02:06
tretleis network manager moving to 0.7 for intrepids release or will it stay at 0.602:06
tretle?02:06
RAOFDunno.  I think this depends on the state of nm 0.702:07
tretlecool02:07
tretleand is there any chance that packages like anjuta will be updated before its release, thought it was a bit odd that the old build of an ide was being used on an unstable build of ubuntu?02:08
RAOFtretle: Possibly.  Although it's possible that no-one who cares knows about it; is there an upgrade bug on launchpad?  Is there a new version in Debian?02:10
primitivejust installed intrepid and i am having some issues with my display flickering every time i launch an application02:14
tretlewell 2.4 something is in the repos right now, the latest stable release was 2.50 and Im sure there is another stable release coming up as there seems to be one every month02:15
tretlenext release will support vala02:15
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DanaGWTF happened to my media keyboard functionality?03:12
crimsunI ate it.  mm, crunchy.03:13
Hobbseebad crimsun!03:15
crimsundon't blame me.  It didn't look like a sound bug, so I figured it was safe to eat.03:15
DanaGHow do I fix my gnome-settings-daemon?03:19
crimsunwell, first check that something didn't do a recursive reset on System> Preferences> Keyboard Shortcuts03:20
crimsunrecursive unset*03:20
DanaGI just went and rebound them, and the keycodes haven't changed.03:20
DanaGOddly enough, they're still getting through to xev.03:20
DanaG** (gnome-settings-daemon:11273): DEBUG: Unable to parse: 'XF86AudioMedia'03:24
DanaG** (gnome-settings-daemon:11273): DEBUG: Not a valid shortcut: ''03:24
DanaG** (gnome-settings-daemon:11273): DEBUG: Not a valid shortcut: 'disabled'03:24
DanaGHmm, I figured out how to disable the "screen with triangle tool" icon thingy.03:29
primitivedoes anyone have any experience with a flickering (total blackout) whenever an application or dialog is launched in intrepid?03:49
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Dediwah kdeplasma-addons needs to get packaged03:54
Dediprimitive: yes i do too03:55
primitiveany ideas on how to fix it?03:56
Dedinope :)03:56
primitivebeen playing around with xorg, but no luck so far03:56
primitivemaybe has to do with compviz?03:57
RAOFprimitive: I'm pretty sure it's doing a load-detect on your outputs; that blinks some monitors.03:58
primitiveok, can u elaborate?03:58
RAOFNot really, that's it.03:58
RAOFIt seems to be trying to work out what outputs have monitors attached, causing your blinks.  That's the limit of my guesstimation.03:59
primitivecool03:59
primitiveyou think i should file a bug report?03:59
primitiveusing this as a guideline https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration04:00
RAOFI'm pretty sure there's at least one report already; find it and subscribe to it.04:00
primitivesearched, found one, but it was revering to drop down menus and garbling of the display04:00
primitivewill search again04:00
primitivei'm updating my packages as well, to see if anything might have been fixed04:01
primitivefound one, you were correct04:03
primitivefound it in google though, not launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+bug/245383)04:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245383 in xserver-xorg-video-nv "Screen flickers when loading applications" [Undecided,New]04:03
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/18270404:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 182704 in gnome-control-center "Multimedia Keys Don't Work" [High,New]04:10
DanaGWorks only with num lock off.04:24
hiredgoonstupid shaw04:26
_Zeuz_where can I change the Ubuntu Icon from gnome panel?04:29
burner_Zeuz_: it's based upon your icon theme04:34
_Zeuz_burner, I know but from ~/.icons and the theme folder I've changed the file, still haven't seen any difference04:35
burnersure it was the right file? :)04:35
burnerload a different icon theme and then back to teh oen you were editing?04:35
_Zeuz_tried that, still the icon from the theme that I don't want remains04:36
* burner shrugs04:36
ecai accidentally killed xdm with services-admin program (thought it said kdm). upon reboot i get a blank screen. i can start it with /etc/init.d/xdm start, if i reboot in recovery mode. but when i boot in normal mode it still doesnt work. the internet is also not working. i tried apt-get remove then install to no avail aswell04:45
ecaapt-get remove/install xdm that is04:47
burnereca: can't you turn it back on with services-admin?04:51
ecait give me an error when using any program. ill get exact reason04:52
ecaafter login it says "internal error: failed to initialize (hal)" then when trying to open services-admin it says "you are not allowed to acces the system configuration"04:55
ecai also tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:57
eca*doesnt give me an error when opening non system configuration programs05:00
ecaand im running them with sudo05:01
ecaholy crap i fixed it by copying S99xdm from rc3.d to rc2.d because i noticed was missing in that folder05:20
* eca pats himself on the back05:21
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DanaGwtf... epiphany-webkit can't do authentication?06:17
DanaG401 Authorization Required06:17
DanaGThis server could not verify that you are authorized to access. Either you supplied the wrong credentials(e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required.06:17
DanaGIt didn't ASK me for a username or password.06:17
crdlbyes, it really can't06:17
crdlbthat hardly should be surpising given all the other things that don't work06:17
DanaGTabs... windows...06:18
LSD|NinjaIt's epiphany. The user isn't supposed to think about stuff like that. They're meant to sit down, shut up and browse.06:18
DanaGHmm...06:18
DanaGyou try browsing with it...06:18
DanaGall you can ever get is ONE window.06:18
DanaGThere's no middle-click, and no open-in-new-window or tab.06:19
crdlbit _does_ have tabs, although not middle click for a tab06:19
crdlbit's not done06:19
DanaGBut something as basic as login... surely that should be worked on?06:19
DanaGOr is it not really basic?06:19
crdlbephy-webkit will not be ready for 2.2406:20
crdlbmainly it's webkit-gtk which is missing the API needed06:20
DanaGAah.06:21
DanaGOh yeah, I recently tried Compiz-Fusion on the old GeForce 4 420 Go, which is really mostly a GeForce 2.06:21
DanaGIt actually works pretty well.06:21
LSD|NinjaIt does. Certainly better than creaky old plain X on the same set up. Only reason I put up with it, it's the lesser of two evils.06:24
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DanaGepiphany-webkit also just downloads files to the desktop... without notice, and without prompting.07:01
crdlbDanaG: http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/WebKit/TODO07:04
DanaGoh yeah, I had to make a udev rule to make my audigy2 card safely removable.07:07
DanaGWhen I get my new laptop in the Fall, I'll be done with needing that card (and will have to replace it with something else), so I can give it to whoever can make the best use of it.07:08
DanaGFor some reason, the driver does not completely clean up after itself when you remove the cardbus card.07:09
DanaGI have to actually unload the module, or else I get an oops on re-insertion.... and then a panic upon second removal.07:09
RAOFDanaG: It's cardbus?07:11
RAOFDanaG: My laptop would _love_ a soundcard that didn't noticably increase the background hum when I press a key.07:12
DanaGI want to also help fix things on it.  For example, the stereo mix capture merely gets noise.07:13
DanaGI had this horrid noise in my captured audio for some reason.....07:13
DanaGit turns out I had to mute the "PCM" capture.07:13
DanaGOh yeah, PulseAudio also insists on using the 'mic' input on the thing, and refuses to use Line.07:20
DanaGHmm, I wonder what advantages UEFI offers to the user over traditional BIOS.07:25
DanaGThat rEFIt thingy looks cool... but it's all about Apple, Apple, Apple.  I'm not going with them.07:25
DanaGApple does this.  Apple does that...... but what about other manufacturers who use EFI / UEFI?07:25
DanaG... and what does the "U" even stand for?07:26
* DanaG wishes somebody would make an ExpressCard sound card.... that's not Creative.07:28
DanaGIn my mind, Creative is scum.  I'll spare the rant itself, and just say.... look at their forums.07:29
LSD|NinjaDanaG: Unified I believe07:43
RAOFDanaG: The reason why it's all "apple, apple, apple" is that _no-one_ else uses EFI, at least on consumer stuff.07:46
LSD|NinjaIt's there, but no one is using it to the extent that Apple are. At least publically.07:47
DanaGAah.07:47
DanaGThat's the key word: consumer.07:47
DanaGHP's new Elitebook offers "UEFI Boot Mode"07:48
LSD|NinjaThe major holdup is that most versions of Windows can't boot from it natively07:48
DanaGIt's a business laptop.07:48
RAOFLSD|Ninja: Is it _actually_ all there?  There's certainly support for it in a variety of places, but who actually shipps EFI stuff.07:48
DanaGhttp://h20181.www2.hp.com/plmcontent/NACSC/SML/results.htm?SID=3688868&MEID=5C316DB1-6B5B-4C11-9F68-807A3979A6CE07:48
DanaGAnother nifty feature: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01471860&lc=en&cc=sg&lang=en&product=3641274&dlc=en07:51
LSD|NinjaHmm... I was under the impression Lenovo were already shipping machines with EFI but I can't seem to find to back that up...07:58
catweazle!keys08:14
ubottuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts08:14
DanaGMmm, boot from SD card.08:18
RAOFEh; USB's fine.08:19
DanaGWell, you don't see SD-card boot very often.  It's interesting that they bothered with it.08:20
DanaGI wonder why.08:20
RAOFBinary search FTW!08:23
DanaGInteresting feature: keep hard drive spun down while lid is closed.08:23
LSD|NinjaDoes it support USB boot? My guess would be that it's probably not too much of a stretch to include SD boot if they're already including USB boot08:23
RAOFLSD|Ninja: Probably not.  I don't know if mine includes SD boot; i've never even put an sd card into the reader.08:24
DanaGInteresting: "An extra layer of security, power-on authentication requires users to identify themselves with passwords, Smart Cards or TPM before the operating system will even start."08:28
DanaGI just wish the kernel driver for their accelerometer would get somewhere in development.08:28
DanaGIt's currently floating around as miscellaneous threads on LKML.08:28
DanaGHeh, webcam as business card reader.08:32
RAOFWho feels like reading 30Gb worth of debug trace?08:38
RAOFHobbsee: Network probems? :)08:43
HobbseeRAOF: no - i wanted clarke, not kubrick, so i manually specified.08:47
RAOFWhat's wrong with poor kubirck? :)08:48
HobbseeRAOF: seeing as my server is in fremont, it makes sense for me to connect to the irc server in fremont, not the one in LA :P08:48
RAOFHah!  Success!  Hurray for log_2 search.08:48
RAOFAnd that log is a mere 5.2x10^6 lines.08:49
s0ullightwhat alpha version is intrepid ibex at the moment?09:07
TheInfinityalpha309:07
RAOFWell, not really, but that's a useful lie.09:07
s0ullightwhats the situation with wireless networking09:08
s0ullightand X09:08
RAOFThat's really for you to tell us :)09:09
RAOFNeither wireless nor X has broken for me during the Intrepid cycle (yet).09:09
RAOFThey have broken for any number of other people, though.09:10
s0ullightim in turkey atm. hollidays. so im not using linux now09:10
TheInfinityRAOF: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/ <-- and what alpha is else the current one?09:10
TheInfinityRAOF: the non existing alpha4? :p09:10
s0ullightare the nvidia drivers fixed?09:10
G_009same here.. except i have only tried wifi on 64bit version09:10
RAOFTheInfinity: Neither alpha3 nor alpha4; both numbers are wrong :)09:11
TheInfinityRAOF: and what is this at this link? :p09:11
s0ullightlets just use alpha 309:11
RAOFI've got a fully up-to-date Intrepid system; it's not what you'd get by installing from the alpha 3 cd.09:12
RAOFBut this is really semantics.09:12
RAOFBut semantics that are regularly reinforced by people misunderstanding the rather arbitrary existance of "alpha _x_" :)09:13
s0ullightis the touchpad issue fixed in this ubuntu or do i still need 2 bootparameters?09:13
RAOFAgain, I've never had a touchpad issue.09:14
G_009i care about the meaning of "up-to-date09:14
RAOFThese questions are more likely to be usefully asked of the search functionality of Launchpad.09:14
TheInfinityRAOF: oh wow what a difference :p09:15
s0ullightwhen using syntapic kind of touchpads scroll and holding mousebutton sometimes fail09:15
s0ullightbug in ubuntu kernel09:15
s0ullighti had it in hardy09:15
RAOFs0ullight: Well, I've been using a synaptics touchpad and haven't noticed anything of the kind.  Unless it's reported in Launchpad, though, it's only been fixed by mistake.09:16
s0ullight:D09:16
RAOFNote that I didn't notice anything of the kind in Hardy, either, so it's entireyl possible that your bug hasn't been fixed.09:17
s0ullightwell im not the only one with that bug09:18
RAOFBut is it on launchpad?09:18
RAOFIf it is, that's where information about it will be stored.09:18
s0ullightfound the solution in the ubuntu forums lemme check09:18
RAOFif it isn't, no one's working on fixing it.09:18
s0ullighthttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=844968 this is what worked for me09:20
RAOFBut is it reported in launchpad?09:21
s0ullighti dont know09:22
RAOFThat's where you should be going to work out if it's fixed or not.  (And if it's not reported yet, it should be).09:22
s0ullightthere are reports about non detected touchpads but didnt see this09:22
s0ullightRAOF: i have to register and so on09:26
DanaGOne of my touchpad buttons is sometimes unreliable.....09:28
DanaGbut it's most likely a hardware issue.09:29
s0ullightDanaG: you can never be sure09:29
DanaGIt sometimes does it in Windows, too.09:29
s0ullighttry the link to see if that brings a solution09:29
DanaGAnd in OS X (yay, hackintosh).09:29
* DanaG greatly prefers Ubuntu over Apple's thing -- Apple makes stuff overly simplistic sometimes.09:30
s0ullighttrue09:30
DanaGI ran into such an issue today.... but I don't remember what it was.09:30
DanaGOh yeah, it was Finder -- there's no "default view mode" option!09:31
* DanaG hugs Nautilus.... especially the new version.09:31
s0ullightapple has great products with great specifications but they mostly forget the most common things09:31
DanaG<insert "only one button?" rant here>09:32
* G_009 is going to try s0ullight 's pointed out workaround. touchpad doesnt scroll 09:35
s0ullightG_009: let me know if it works09:36
G_009sounds pretty straight forward~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~09:36
G_009blame that09:37
G_009on the09:37
G_009cat09:37
DanaGmeow09:38
stefanlsdCan apt show a changelog for a package?09:43
G_009 no results.09:52
s0ullightalso tryed the link in the link?09:52
G_009first tried adding it directly via editing grub on bootup .. second try was editing menu.lst itself. nada09:53
G_009didnt see that one .. reading ...09:54
s0ullight:D09:54
RAOFstefanlsd: Yes.  Well, with aptitude (aptitude changelog package)10:02
stefanlsdRAOF: thanks. works10:03
G_009removing psmouse module works for me.. good going.. all i have left is to modify modprobe10:05
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G_009let me rephrase removing psmouse module and modifying modprobe with psmouse rate=50 proto=imps10:07
s0ullight:D10:07
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G_009i had stopped looking for a workaround for a while .. so cheers to you s0ullight10:08
G_009i might use a hight rate value though10:09
G_009s/hight/higher10:09
s0ullightG_009: can you look it up in launchpad and add them if they are not listed?10:09
G_009i could10:09
* G_009 eats tuna_sammich10:10
s0ullightcuz i have to leave the place soon and im in hollidays so10:10
G_009i'll look into it10:10
s0ullightG_009: hope you ll help others btw damn this weird keyboard10:19
G_009system>shutdown still only logs off user10:59
G_009err10:59
G_009system>shutdown then choosing restart only logs out user11:00
LSD|Ninjayeah, annoying that11:03
BUGabundois fuse.gvfs mount in / or in /home?11:23
BUGabundoplease see http://fileland.bugabundo.net/temp/Screenshot-SystemMonitor.png11:27
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aguiteli am using intrepid 64 bits in amd 64 and every time when it boot heard noise in my hard disk ( only 15 seconds) anyone know about this ?13:29
catweazleaguitel: could it be the pc-speaker? there is a known bug13:36
aguitelcatweazle, anyway to desable pc -speaker ?13:36
aguitelcatweazle, disable i say13:37
catweazlehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/24296613:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 242966 in pulseaudio "snd_pcsp can take precedence of soundcards" [High,Triaged]13:37
aguitelcatweazle, the noise is inside the pc and some times ocurrs when firefox is running (some sites) and when i sut down firefox it stops (the noise)13:40
HewIs there a screenshot of what Kubuntu Intrepid looks like anywhere? I've tried searching the net but amazingly without a satisfactory result. I'd like to compare what it's meant to look like with what it actually looks like for me.14:39
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constrictorHew are you unhappy with what yours looks like?14:55
Hewconstrictor: Yes, but I think that's because it's broken and theme-less14:56
constrictorah14:56
constrictori can't seem to find any either14:56
HewI installed kubuntu-desktop on a gnome-ubuntu system; there are problems in both environments14:57
constrictorwell my new human just looks like a generic gnome theme14:57
Hewconstrictor: this is on gnome or kde ubuntu?14:57
constrictorbut having said that i'm still in the upgrade process so i'm assuming after a reboot it should look like it's supposed to14:58
constrictorgnome14:58
HewI got the NewHuman dark theme fine on gnome. Looks impressive :-)14:58
Hewah ok14:58
constrictormight need to rebot my lappie then14:58
HewI would think it applies immediately, but maybe you need to restart X14:58
constrictormy thoughts too14:58
constrictori'll wait for it to finish14:59
constrictoractually it's replacing metacity as well14:59
JontheEchidnaAs of now kubuntu Intrepid looks exactly like the KDE 4.1 defautl desktop14:59
constrictorthat might be why14:59
HewJontheEchidna: If I run firefox / synaptic / gnome apps, the toolbars look like there is no theme applied15:01
HewIs this normal / known?15:01
JontheEchidnainstall gtk-qt--engine-kde415:02
HewI can imagine there are problems running gnome-specific apps on KDE, but I would have thought firefox and synaptic were interchangeable15:02
Hewok15:02
JontheEchidnaand configure it in systemsettings15:02
JontheEchidnain the appearance section15:02
Hewgtk-qt-engine-kde4/intrepid uptodate 1.1-0ubuntu115:04
Hewalready installed15:04
JontheEchidnaoh yeah, forgot it doesn't work in intrepid15:04
JontheEchidnaneeds to be repackaged15:04
Hewyea found the appearance section again (I'm slow, new to KDE :P); I've been here before but doesn't seem to change anything15:06
HewJontheEchidna: So is this a known issue? I'm active on launchpad and would like to follow this up15:06
JontheEchidnayeah, lemme see if I can't find the bug15:07
JontheEchidnabug 25066215:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250662 in gtk-qt-engine-kde4 "[intrepid KDE4] gtk-qt-engine put files in wrong place" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25066215:07
HewI just haven't had experience with the gnome/kde interaction before so was unsure if this was a problem or not15:07
Hewthanks15:07
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G_009updates time!15:41
G_009yay.. one for dbus15:42
LocutusOfBorgcan I ask for a bug???16:05
LocutusOfBorgI run under ubuntu intrepid ibex, but I cannot usa tty1 to 616:09
LocutusOfBorgno problem with graphics16:09
LocutusOfBorgany idea?16:10
LocutusOfBorghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/25366116:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 253661 in ubuntu "tty 1-6 does not work with a Ati Radeon 9600 pro" [Undecided,Incomplete]16:10
ikoniaLocutusOfBorg: if you boot into a text mode, can you use them ?16:13
LocutusOfBorgno16:13
LocutusOfBorgonly graphical way16:13
LocutusOfBorgi should wait16:14
Hobbseeyou should run hardy, as you clearly don't know what you're doing.16:14
LocutusOfBorgnow I'm under hardy16:16
LocutusOfBorgbut I use ibex without problem16:16
LocutusOfBorgonly tty are not working16:16
LocutusOfBorgno problem under "graphical bash"16:17
Hobbseebash is not graphical.16:17
ikoniaLocutusOfBorg: what are you talking about your not using it without a problem as your in here logging bugs and don't know what to do16:19
LocutusOfBorgHobbsee, I mean I start bash under tty716:20
LocutusOfBorgikonia, I've submitted this report for this reason16:20
mvoLocutusOfBorg: when the grub screen comes up, try editing the grub line (right at bootup) and remove the "splash" there. that will give you a boot without the splash screen and that may fix the problem16:21
DanaGOh yeah, if G_009 comes back, tell him/her that the 'rate' protocol is an optional thing on psmouse -- if you don't use it, it's better because it uses events instead of polling.16:21
LocutusOfBorgok mvo16:22
mvoLocutusOfBorg: if that fixes the issues, please make sure to put that information into the bugreport so that this information is recorded :)16:26
LocutusOfBorgthis will be the first thing... :)16:27
ikoniamvo_: what suggested to you that the boot splash would effect the ability to swap terminals from within an X environment ?16:33
mvo_ikonia: I thought I did read in the bugreport that the ttys are garbaled when switched to them did I misread that?16:37
LSD|NinjaThere are all kinds of weird splash bugs in Intrepid at the moment. Ther've been a few updates to usplash though so they do seem to be working on it16:48
LocutusOfBorgthat's right... :D16:48
ikoniaLSD|Ninja: but how does that match anything thats said above ?16:48
LocutusOfBorgi didn't upgrade my ibex for 4 days and today I got 107 MB of updates... :)16:49
LocutusOfBorgmvo_, I'll try to reboot16:54
LocutusOfBorgthanks to everyone16:54
mvo_good luck16:54
LocutusOfBorg10q16:55
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LocutusOfBorgit seems to be working17:02
LocutusOfBorgwithout splash flag17:03
penguin42is the Ibex alpha reasonably stable, i.e. on the current version does it mostly work or is there anything major particularly broken?17:43
LocutusOfBorgpenguin42, I'm running under ibex alpha 317:45
LocutusOfBorgonly a little bug on  text mode (slved just now)17:45
LocutusOfBorgbut I've read something about bug... :/17:45
LSD|Ninjapenguin42: lots of things are broken, it depends on what you use17:45
penguin42now there are two opposing views :-)17:46
LocutusOfBorgpenguin42, I don't think is stable17:46
LocutusOfBorgI agree with LSD|Ninja17:46
LocutusOfBorgI say only that I've no problem17:47
LocutusOfBorgNow i'll reboot... to see if the ati drivers works.. .:)17:47
LSD|NinjaIt's mostly just little things at the moment, at least for me. It's impossible to say that it's anywhere near production quality though17:47
penguin42LSD|Ninja: Like?17:48
* penguin42 would like to see whether some of the things that annoy him in Hardy are fixed17:49
LSD|Ninjapenguin42: Like? :P17:49
penguin42oh nspluginwrapper is particularly touchy (a known fixed is in the upstream release)17:49
LocutusOfBorgstill no problem... :)17:52
penguin42right, I'll come back in a couple of weeks17:55
LocutusOfBorgstill no problem...17:55
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kalluanyone having issues with plasmoids in kde 4.119:24
kallumine some plasmoids are n't starting properly .. instead a black dot is appearing19:25
JontheEchidnakallu: which plasmoids?19:28
kalluJontheEchidna, every thing except few like clock, trash ... folderview etc are not working19:29
JontheEchidnaapt-cache policy kdeplasma-addons , please19:30
kallukdeplasma-addons:19:30
kallu  Installed: 4:4.1.0-0ubuntu119:30
kallu  Candidate: 4:4.1.0-0ubuntu119:30
kallu  Version table:19:30
kallu *** 4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1 019:30
kallu        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages19:30
kallu        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status19:31
kallu     4:4.0.98-0ubuntu1 019:31
kallu        500 ftp://ftp.iitb.ac.in intrepid/main Packages19:31
JontheEchidnahmm19:34
JontheEchidnathose might need a rebuild19:34
JontheEchidna(kdebase-plasma and kdeplasma-addons)19:34
negge* Updated the gtkrc and metacity configs a bit to fix a few known problems (off-white backgrounds for text editor and other apps) <-- why did they make the theme so goddamn ugly?19:59
neggeI'm talking about the human-theme package?19:59
negge-?19:59
lymecaHi, I've got the latest 2.6.26 kernel in Intrepid, but it won't boot.20:28
lymecaIt keeps saying right after being selecting in GRUB20:28
lymeca"PCI: Not using MMconfig"20:28
lymecaand it just sits there and won't boot.20:28
lymecaI've tried this with every 2.6.26 kernel in INtrepid and none of them have worked, up to the latest.20:28
siouxhttp://towers.corinthia.cz/hotel/en/  nice hotels... who payed the bill?20:36
sioux:-)20:37
borschtyi'm trying to find out if /dev/.static/dev is mounted ro only on my machines or if it is a general problem in intrepid, could somebody please tell me the output of "cat /proc/mounts | grep .static"20:54
siouxa intrepid low deley kernel will be available?20:58
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